re: #563 Obdicut

No. They bear a heavy weight of responsibility even if no actual political violence follows. The rhetoric is wildly irresponsible even if no one actually follows through.

Kind of the other end of the pipe.

Yes, they also bear responsibility for creating this climate of hatred and extremism among their followers even if no murders ensue. And when murders do ensue as they have done here, they absolutely do bear responsibility for them.

As Curious Lurker pointed out the other day, no-one would think for a moment of trying to excuse jihadist rhetoric by questioning the sanity of those who follow through on it.