re: #747 formercorpsman

Yes, another thing very much at the center of it.

Something such as boot camp exploits this scenario totally. It is the closest form of cohabitation anyone can imagine.

Now I would expect it to be only natural for a gay man showering together with a group of naked men, not to be at the very least mindful of his surroundings. If someone wants to tell me that there is no way this would not be on the minds of all parties because of some sort of perceived professionalism over and above human nature is fooling themselves.

Seriously, that would be similar to me making the comparison that I could shower with a bunch of naked females, and I could overlook the fact that I was in a shower with a bunch of naked females.

It is not as clear cut a situation as some people want to believe.

My common situation was the gay guy that wanted to know me, took the opportunity of taking a shower and then walking into the common area where I was watching TV. the towel accidentally fell off. And then came a few suggestive words. Innocent enough but enough to let me know what he wanted. I politely excused myself and that was the end of it.

My time in the military was rife with the word “fag” etc. conversation was so littered with gay profanity one would think everyone in the military was gay. I started to think every cigar smoking profanity laced sgt. was just trying to substitute for his inner desires. to this day I still think anyone smoking a cigar is just substituting for what they really want to do.