Make the Metal Sing: Polybius

Hard drives as rhythm instruments
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We are submerged in a dry swimming pool. A SEGA Mega Drive, Commodore 64, floppy disk drives and hard drives sing in unison. The unusual ensemble (controlled live via MIDI) are given a last curtain call in a nostalgic farewell to forgotten friends.

Video by James Houston
“I asked Julian Corrie to compose and perform a piece of bespoke music for antiquated hardware that I had turned into instruments then rigged together via MIDI.”

See also Big Ideas (don’t get any) http://1030.co.uk/work/big-ideas-dont-get-any/

Polybius production photos:
http://1030.co.uk/work/polybius/

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430 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 5:59:40pm

Very intense episode of Breaking Bad last night.

Spoiler

Jesse figured out Walt’s ricin trick.

2 JustMark  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:02:48pm

Cool

3 Kragar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:06:12pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Very intense episode of Breaking Bad last night.

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As opposed to the boring episode where nothing happens? I missed that one.
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4 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:08:09pm

That looks like Godin being used as a controller.

I have a GR-33 but I have never even thought of connecting weird MIDI shit like this stuff.

5 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:14:06pm

What a flash back to the 80’s. It almost made me get my hair feathered and buy a boom box.
Oh..Noes..I’ve been blinded by science..

6 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:15:42pm

re: #5 A Man for all Seasons

What a flash back to the 80’s. It almost made me get my hair feathered and buy a boom box.
Oh..Noes..I’ve been blinded by science..

No.

7 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:16:59pm

re: #4 b_sharp

That looks like Godin being used as a controller.

I have a GR-33 but I have never even thought of connecting weird MIDI shit like this stuff.

I had a GR-1. Used to play a mean sax and trumpet. :D

8 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:17:02pm

Later, lizards.

9 Stanley Sea  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:18:46pm

re: #3 Kragar

As opposed to the boring episode where nothing happens? I missed that one.
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I’m watching it now.

10 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:19:51pm

re: #7 Gus

I had a GR-1. Used to play a mean sax and trumpet. :D

I prefer the strings and piano.

IOW I was crap with the brass/wood winds.

11 Carlos Danger  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:20:04pm

re: #5 A Man for all Seasons

What a flash back to the 80’s. It almost made me get my hair feathered and buy a boom box.
Oh..Noes..I’ve been blinded by science..

Image: young-einstein-original.jpg

12 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:21:57pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

Later, lizards.

Trickster! I was expecting a LOL Cat! //

13 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:22:38pm

re: #12 Gus

Trickster! I was expecting a LOL Cat! //

So was I. We’ve been ripped off.

14 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:23:16pm

Notice that one of the HDs is melting down near the middle of the video. It gave its life to make this music happen.

15 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:24:21pm
16 b_sharp  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:26:26pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Notice that one of the HDs is melting down near the middle of the video. It gave its life to make this music happen.

They let the magic smoke out.

17 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:31:00pm

re: #15 Gus

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Tell Amnesty intervention would be easier if we were intercepting Syrian email… They’ll understand.

18 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:32:47pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Tell Amnesty intervention would be easier if we were intercepting Syrian email… They’ll understand.

Amnesty International generally takes no position on the use of armed force or on military interventions in armed conflict, other than to demand that all parties must respect international human rights and humanitarian law. Our primary concern in situations of armed conflicts is to ensure the protection of civilians and other non-combatants.

Neutral.

19 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:35:19pm

re: #18 Gus

Amnesty International generally takes no position on the use of armed force or on military interventions in armed conflict, other than to demand that all parties must respect international human rights and humanitarian law. Our primary concern in situations of armed conflicts is to ensure the protection of civilians and other non-combatants.

Neutral.

How shall we hold the violators accountable? Send in Sheriff Joe? They can’t have it both ways.

20 andres  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:44:07pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

How shall we hold the violators accountable? Send in Sheriff Joe? They can’t have it both ways.

Necessary evil: if they want to have access and provide help to said civilians from both sides, they need to be neutral on the conflict. Taking a side means that the other side won’t let them near the civilians for fear.

21 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:49:35pm

re: #20 andres

Necessary evil: if they want to have access and provide help to said civilians from both sides, they need to be neutral on the conflict. Taking a side means that the other side won’t let them near the civilians for fear.

Then it sounds like they want a sternly-worded letter. I dropped out of Amnesty when I got tired of writing letters about people I’d never heard of, addressed to people who would never read them.

22 thedopefishlives  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:52:40pm

Evening Lizardim from the blazing hot wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

23 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:53:52pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Then it sounds like they want a sternly-worded letter. I dropped out of Amnesty when I got tired of writing letters about people I’d never heard of, addressed to people who would never read them.

Hey, Decatur! It looks like we will be marching for voting rights all over again. The right does not realize yet what a can of whup ass they opened.
Motivated African American women voters, saving the union, yet again!

24 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:55:05pm

re: #23 prairiefire

Hey, Decatur! It looks like we will be marching for voting rights all over again. The right does not realize yet what a can of whup ass they opened.
Motivated African American women voters, saving the union, yet again!

We Shall Overtweet.

25 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:59:43pm

re: #23 prairiefire

Hey, Decatur! It looks like we will be marching for voting rights all over again. The right does not realize yet what a can of whup ass they opened.
Motivated African American women voters, saving the union, yet again!

Number 1 priority—voting rights
Number 2—saving public education
Number 3—taking the Supreme Court

26 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:10:00pm

re: #15 Gus
Should Obama send them a strongly worded letter?

27 thedopefishlives  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:11:49pm

re: #26 Vicious Babushka

Should Obama send them a strongly worded letter?

Sure, why not. I think Sharpie on the front of a Tomahawk counts as “strongly worded”, am I right?

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28 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:15:34pm

OFFS
What country would that be? Don’t be coy, Justa.

29 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:17:13pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

Number 1 priority—voting rights
Number 2—saving public education
Number 3—taking the Supreme Court

Yes! #3 will also continue to protect reproductive rights, which I put at #2.

30 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:19:01pm

re: #29 prairiefire

Yes! #3 will also continue to protect reproductive rights, which I put at #2.

That’s only a difference in listing priorities for the short or long term.

31 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:19:34pm

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

OFFS
What country would that be? Don’t be coy, Justa.

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How the hell is that “religious greed”? How about “right to survive as a sovereign nation.”

Hey spellcheck is more betterz!

32 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:20:25pm

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

Man, I wish people would just have the balls to call out Andorra by name.

33 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:22:16pm

re: #32 Internet Tough Guy

Man, I wish people would just have the balls to call out Andorra by name.

I thought they were talking about Liechtenstein.

34 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:24:47pm

OFFS
ThinkProg, why go into a whole Deep Thinking exercise? It was just a lame, cheap grab of attention and 15 minutes of Internet chatter.
Miley did nothing to deserve this TL;DR over-analysis of her cunning stunt.

35 thedopefishlives  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:26:34pm

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

OFFS
ThinkProg, why go into a whole Deep Thinking exercise? It was just a lame, cheap grab of attention and 15 minutes of Internet chatter.
Miley did nothing to deserve this TL;DR over-analysis of her cunning stunt.

One thing I’ve learned about the vast unhinged: They associate a deeper meaning to EVERYTHING. I’m surprised we don’t see posts about them examining their bowel movements and what it means for their long-term temperament.

36 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:30:41pm

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

OFFS
ThinkProg, why go into a whole Deep Thinking exercise? It was just a lame, cheap grab of attention and 15 minutes of Internet chatter.
Miley did nothing to deserve this TL;DR over-analysis of her cunning stunt.

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This was kinda funny. Hank Hill

37 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:36:03pm

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

OFFS
ThinkProg, why go into a whole Deep Thinking exercise? It was just a lame, cheap grab of attention and 15 minutes of Internet chatter.
Miley did nothing to deserve this TL;DR over-analysis of her cunning stunt.

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Cultural policing. If cultural appropriating is a bad thing then all of white rock and rollers are bad bad people.

“Janice Joplin, a good singer. But is she appropriating?”

38 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:36:08pm

re: #36 Eventual Carrion

39 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:37:39pm

re: #37 Gus

Cultural policing. If cultural appropriating is a bad thing then all of white rock and rollers are bad bad people.

“Janice Joplin, a good singer. But is she appropriating?”

Miley’s performance was in poor taste, awkward and gave everyone who watched it a near-fatal dose of second hand embarrassment.

The reaction to it has been amazing to watch.

40 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:39:10pm

re: #37 Gus

Cultural policing. If cultural appropriating is a bad thing then all of white rock and rollers are bad bad people.

“Janice Joplin, a good singer. But is she appropriating?”

They do it to!1!!! Wynton Marsalis appropriated Bach, and don’t get me started on Yo-Yo Ma!!!

41 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:39:42pm

re: #39 Lidane

Miley’s performance was in poor taste, awkward and gave everyone who watched it a near-fatal dose of second hand embarrassment.

The reaction to it has been amazing to watch.

I didn’t even know until this morning. Then I saw that pic with the giant finger and though, “gross.” Later found about the twerking. I think the bigger debate is the demise of MTV. Or as I called it, “MTV killed the video star.”

42 thedopefishlives  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:41:42pm

re: #41 Gus

I didn’t even know until this morning. Then I saw that pic with the giant finger and though, “gross.” Later found about the twerking. I think the bigger debate is the demise of MTV. Or as I called it, “MTV killed the video star.”

I found out from the local morning show I listen to on my way into work. Dave Ryan tore her a new one, and he definitely called it what it was - completely and utterly embarrassing. She was trying to out-Gaga Gaga, and failed in the most epic fashion.

43 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:42:03pm

re: #41 Gus

Learned a new word today: “twerking”. Such a good word should apply in some way to emoprog journalists.

44 thedopefishlives  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:42:31pm

re: #43 Decatur Deb

Learned a new word today: “twerking”. Such a good word should apply in some way to emoprog journalists.

I find myself frequently relying on the power of Urban Dictionary.

I feel old.

45 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:50:52pm
46 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:53:05pm

re: #35 thedopefishlives

We’re only asking questions!! Obviously America is concerned for her health and welfare!!

/

47 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:53:52pm

Twerking sounds like something a workaholic would engage in.

48 thedopefishlives  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:54:23pm

re: #46 Amory Blaine

We’re only asking questions!! Obviously America is concerned for her health and welfare!!

/

Dammit, I gotta up the voltage on the bullshit detector relays, that’s the third one this week.

49 jaunte  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:55:05pm

re: #47 Amory Blaine

I’m a workaholic, and I have to admit I’ve been a twerk too much this summer.

50 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:57:30pm

re: #47 Amory Blaine

Twerking sounds like something a workaholic would engage in.

Twerking sounds like tweeting from work.

51 thedopefishlives  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:58:02pm

re: #49 jaunte

I’m a workaholic, and I have to admit I’ve been a twerk too much this summer.

STOP REDEFINING WORDS! IT MAKES BABY JESUS CRY!

52 jaunte  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:58:47pm
53 blueraven  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 7:59:19pm

One hit wonder Dad, Billy Ray Cyrus, uses daughter to try to reinvigorate a non existent career. Loses control. Results seen last night on MTV awards show.

Just sad what some people will do to their kids.

54 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:02:06pm

re: #49 jaunte

I’m a workaholic, and I have to admit I’ve been a twerk too much this summer.

I’ve seen it done by Brazilian style dancer back in the 90s. Saw it in some dance clubs. Probably tried it myself and hurt my lower back.

55 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:03:46pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Then it sounds like they want a sternly-worded letter. I dropped out of Amnesty when I got tired of writing letters about people I’d never heard of, addressed to people who would never read them.

Exactly. At this point force is all Basheer Assad understands. My own proposal, should it prove practical, is thus to use airstrikes to kill him.

56 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:04:26pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. At this point force is all Basheer Assad understands. My own proposal, should it prove practical, is thus to use airstrikes to kill him.

And replace him with what?

57 thedopefishlives  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:04:52pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. At this point force is all Basheer Assad understands. My own proposal, should it prove practical, is thus to use airstrikes to kill him.

I have a hard time condoning either the Bill Clinton or the George W. Bush solutions to the Assad problem. I must be getting old; I used to be such a hawk.

58 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:06:54pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. At this point force is all Basheer Assad understands. My own proposal, should it prove practical, is thus to use airstrikes to kill him.

While he’s a Baathist SOB, I’m not sure he’s the worst SOB in the mix. If the ultimate goal of Western policy was to have secular strongmen in the region, rather than religious nutjob strongmen, we have been going backwards for 60 years.

59 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:12:20pm

‘Nite, all.

60 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:12:46pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

And replace him with what?

We shouldn’t get involved with with that. The object is simply to kill him as an object lesson: “Using WMDs will get you killed.” Getting involved in the aftermath in Syria isn’t worth doing, other than perhaps to bankroll the least-worst faction that has a chance to win.

61 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:15:36pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

We shouldn’t get involved with with that. The object is simply to kill him as an object lesson: “Using WMDs will get you killed.” Getting involved in the aftermath in Syria isn’t worth doing, other than perhaps to bankroll the least-worst faction that has a chance to win.

So we decapitate the government, and then hope that things work out and the “least-worst” faction wins the day rather than gets slaughtered by the others?

62 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:15:47pm

Read:

peacefare.net
peacefare.net

63 gwangung  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:19:51pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

We shouldn’t get involved with with that. The object is simply to kill him as an object lesson: “Using WMDs will get you killed.” Getting involved in the aftermath in Syria isn’t worth doing, other than perhaps to bankroll the least-worst faction that has a chance to win.

I’m pretty sure that not gaming it it out like this will lead to a MUCH worse situation about 96 percent of the time….

64 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:20:49pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

That is a recipe for disaster.

The focus, if we are going to do this, is to break the ability of Assad to use chemical weapons, and aircraft for that matter, as well as wrecking what remains of their air defense system.

However, if we want a chance of Syria being able to pull out the other side, we also need to hit at the radicals as well.

Attack both of them. It maybe tricky to separate out good rebels from the bad, but it could reap benefits.

65 dog philosopher  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:24:38pm

krazee ranting wingnuts are against intervention in syria for krazee ranting wingnut reasons:

“Barack Insane Obama is about to launch a full scale bombing campaign
against the Syrian government, which will most certainly result in the
Jihadist massacre of Syria’s entire Christian population. This will be
significantly worse than what is happening in Egypt right now. We may
not be able to stop him from doing this, but we can at least get the
truth out, and we can at least let the world know that we are opposed to
this, and that Barack Insane Obama is acting on his own here, against
the will of the American people”

four legs good, two legs bad

66 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:27:40pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

So we decapitate the government, and then hope that things work out and the “least-worst” faction wins the day rather than gets slaughtered by the others?

Yep.

67 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:29:12pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Yep.

Is this like going into Iraq and expecting the people to greet us with roses? In and out in six months, less than a billion in expenses that would be paid for with oil revenues?

68 dog philosopher  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:32:11pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Yep.

i tend to think that you would have to remove quite a number of powerful people in syria before you cut off the head of this particular snake

if you only get rid of assad, i am sure there would be any number of other figureheads, and the next one would be ushered in with a bodyguard of rapturous prose about how he or she, surely, would put an end to all bad things

but nothing would really change

69 bratwurst  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:32:17pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Is this like going into Iraq and expecting the people to greet us with roses? In and out in six months, less than a billion in expenses that would be paid for with oil revenues?

QFT.

“Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it”

- George Santayana

70 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:32:22pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Is this like going into Iraq and expecting the people to greet us with roses? In and out in six months, less than a billion in expenses that would be paid for with oil revenues?

No, because we’re not “going in”. I’m calling for the use airpower to cripple Assad’s government and if possible kill him. No boots on the ground.

71 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:37:14pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

No, because we’re not “going in”. I’m calling for the use airpower to cripple Assad’s government and if possible kill him. No boots on the ground.

No, we’re just turning Assad into a martyr while also steeling the resolve of his loyalists. An “example”? You want an example, catch his ass and put him on trial.

72 ThomasLite  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:38:56pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

So we decapitate the government, and then hope that things work out and the “least-worst” faction wins the day rather than gets slaughtered by the others?

I agree completely DF’s suggestion, however tempting, would lead to an even worse situation. However, hitting Assad where it hurts, showing this shit doesn’t fly, that there are consequences to this really is important.
How many palaces and other assorted private luxuries of his are still out there? Let’s reduce that to exactly zero. let him know the next time he does anything like this, it *will* be his ass on the grill, personally.
I’m guessing that’s within reach of US military power (and equally within reach of a sensible budget), right?
Sure, taking the SOB down outright would lead to (further) anarchy - but surely we can bring the pain in a way that would incur less adverse consequences?

…okay, perhaps Targetpractice has a point as well. Still, dictators tend to either believe capture happens only to ‘others’ or just lead as much of a life as they possibly can before they inevitably go down. Showing future potentially like-minded idiots that there’s not only consequences, but real personal, nasty and inconvenient ones, would IMO still be a decent idea.

73 dog philosopher  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:40:17pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

No, because we’re not “going in”. I’m calling for the use airpower to cripple Assad’s government and if possible kill him. No boots on the ground.

my uneducated and super wild-ass guess estimate is that the amount of bombing & etc it would take to actually “cripple” assad’s government would be more than we are likely to carry out

i don’t recall any instances where we were able to bomb the administration of a country the size of syria out of office

74 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:42:09pm

re: #73 dog philosopher

my uneducated and super wild-ass guess estimate is that the amount of bombing & etc it would take to actually “cripple” assad’s government would be more than we are likely to carry out

i don’t recall any instances where we were able to bomb the administration of a country the size of syria out of office

I quite clearly recall the prediction in the first hours of the Second Gulf War that we’d successfully killed Saddam with an smart bomb strike, only to find out days later that he wasn’t in the fucking building. And let’s not even count how many times Col. Mo was one step ahead of the bombers.

75 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:42:59pm

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

OFFS
ThinkProg, why go into a whole Deep Thinking exercise? It was just a lame, cheap grab of attention and 15 minutes of Internet chatter.
Miley did nothing to deserve this TL;DR over-analysis of her cunning stunt.

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Twerking was started by strippers.
If she wants it, she can have it.

76 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:44:47pm

You think al-Qaeda will say, “wow, dude, you know what? The USA’s kind of actually helping us. Way.”

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77 dog philosopher  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:45:12pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

catch his ass and put him on trial.

well this is certainly the morally unimpeachable solution that everybody could agree on

78 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:53:38pm

re: #73 dog philosopher

my uneducated and super wild-ass guess estimate is that the amount of bombing & etc it would take to actually “cripple” assad’s government would be more than we are likely to carry out

i don’t recall any instances where we were able to bomb the administration of a country the size of syria out of office

If we aren’t willing to make an effort to really hurt Assad then we should do nothing. What I don’t favor is “symbolic” use of force; Either drop the hammer or don’t bother with force at all.

79 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:00:46pm

100,000 overall dead. Civil war started in March 2011. Gotta kill more people to stop people from killing more people. Meanwhile, people are still dying. 2.5 years from now it will be 200,000 dead. People will continue dying regardless.

80 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:01:13pm

I noticed that a lot of atheists I follow talk about the bible and prayer a lot.

81 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:06:53pm

re: #80 Gus

I noticed that a lot of atheists I follow talk about the bible and prayer a lot.

It’s like Battlestar Galactica to us.

82 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:08:15pm

re: #81 darthstar

It’s like Battlestar Galactica to us.

What? A great story with a crappy ending?
Heehee.

83 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:08:54pm

re: #82 OhNoZombies!

What? A great story with a crappy ending?
Heehee.

It’s only a crappy ending if you read Revelations last.

84 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:09:04pm

re: #81 darthstar

It’s like Battlestar Galactica to us.

I usually don’t add to the convo. What am I going to say? Keep complaining about prayer every day and it will go away? Why that’s almost just like prayer. So, I watch.

85 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:09:29pm

Oh, man, Mom Anon, Nerium’s everywhere here in KC!topwrinklecream.org

Be careful with the Oleander, folks!

86 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:10:20pm

re: #84 Gus

I usually don’t add to the convo. What am I going to say? Keep complaining about prayer every day and it will go away? Why that’s almost just like prayer. So, I watch.

I don’t complain about prayer. I think it’s equally as effective as holistic medicine.

87 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:12:17pm

re: #81 darthstar

It’s like Battlestar Galactica to us.

An ancient tale that survives totally on nostalgia?

88 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:13:09pm

re: #86 darthstar

I don’t complain about prayer. I think it’s equally as effective as holistic medicine.

Homeopathy. Touch healing. The Zodiac. Kabbalah. Spiritual Rocks. Succulent Medicinal Recipes. Garlic.

89 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:15:55pm

re: #88 Gus

Homeopathy. Touch healing. The Zodiac. Kabbalah. Spiritual Rocks. Succulent Medicinal Recipes. Garlic.

Image: 20070713190324!Head_On_commercial.jpg

90 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:16:55pm

re: #88 Gus

Homeopathy. Touch healing. The Zodiac. Kabbalah. Spiritual Rocks. Succulent Medicinal Recipes. Garlic.

No. no, no, garlic does not have anything to do with touch healing! That’s for sauce.
Where do Atheists start? At the idea of faith healing, or after the fact when someone says they are healed?

91 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:17:19pm

re: #52 jaunte

I laughed so hard.

I feel old because I had somehow managed to avoid seeing twerking before that.

92 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:17:43pm

Also, whoever posted the cookie game has cost me 3 hours so far…

93 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:18:26pm

re: #92 klys

Also, whoever posted the cookie game has cost me 3 hours so far…

Burned about that much playing Tropico 4 earlier.

94 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:19:24pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

Burned about that much playing Tropico 4 earlier.

Tropico 4 at least has more of a point.

…Granted, trying to push my cookies per second higher is my current intellectual level. Two more days of an 8am wakeup.

95 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:21:17pm

re: #92 klys

Also, whoever posted the cookie game has cost me 3 hours so far…

That was me…

96 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:21:48pm

re: #92 klys

Also, whoever posted the cookie game has cost me 3 hours so far…

I don’t think I understand the cookie game. What happens after you earn the renown of the town?

97 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:24:00pm

re: #52 jaunte

Those gals spend a lot of time on line!

98 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:25:40pm

re: #96 prairiefire

I don’t think I understand the cookie game. What happens after you earn the renown of the town?

No idea.

But I am at 337k cookies per second and rising.

99 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:25:52pm

re: #96 prairiefire

I don’t think I understand the cookie game. What happens after you earn the renown of the town?

You eventually turn the universe in to cookie dough.
Really.

100 dog philosopher  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:26:05pm

re: #82 OhNoZombies!

What? A great story with a crappy ending?
Heehee.

no, it’s unfinished - like game of thrones!!!

we’re all waiting to see if the messiah comes back / the khaleesi returns to westeros with her dragons

i get them all mixed up

101 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:26:22pm

Watching Saint Row IV being played on a stream…and all I can say is this is what happens when game developers ask themselves “How far can we push a game on pure geek appeal?”

102 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:26:53pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

Watching Saint Row IV being played on a stream…and all I can say is this is what happens when game developers ask themselves “How far can we push a game on pure geek appeal?”

That bad, eh?

It’s ok, because my video game queue is too long already.

103 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:27:53pm

deepsilver.com
Waiting for this.

104 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:28:11pm

re: #102 klys

That bad, eh?

It’s ok, because my video game queue is too long already.

Nah, it’s pretty good. But like a few of those who’ve played it have remarked, it would have worked better as a DLC for SR3, like it was intended, than a full game.

105 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:28:18pm

re: #98 klys

No idea.

But I am at 337k cookies per second and rising.

Guilty of playing this since mentioned as well…

:(

A neat time-waster.

106 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:29:21pm

re: #52 jaunte

[Embedded content]

What was dancing when you where young? “It was Ahhhthur Murraay” “These girls are giving it away!” “We’ve got a lot of spoilage going around here!”

107 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:30:57pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

Nah, it’s pretty good. But like a few of those who’ve played it have remarked, it would have worked better as a DLC for SR3, like it was intended, than a full game.

I am currently counting down to the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 rerelease on PS3 so I can play it without trying to find a replacement controller for the PS2. Not to mention that they are also rereleasing FFX-2 (with X) in HD in December. DRESS-SPHERES!

108 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:31:19pm

re: #100 dog philosopher

no, it’s unfinished - like game of thrones!!!

we’re all waiting to see if the messiah comes back / the khaleesi returns to westeros with her dragons

i get them all mixed up

Both stories need more dragons.

109 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:31:26pm

re: #107 klys

I am currently counting down to the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 rerelease on PS3 so I can play it without trying to find a replacement controller for the PS2. Not to mention that they are also rereleasing FFX-2 (with X) in HD in December. DRESS-SPHERES!

Duck soup!

110 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:33:39pm

Where is this cookie game of which you speak?

111 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:33:48pm

Oh NOES!

News: Cookies linked to global warning!

112 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:34:02pm

re: #110 darthstar

Where is this cookie game of which you speak?

orteil.dashnet.org

113 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:35:26pm

re: #107 klys

I am currently counting down to the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 rerelease on PS3 so I can play it without trying to find a replacement controller for the PS2. Not to mention that they are also rereleasing FFX-2 (with X) in HD in December. DRESS-SPHERES!

Only things I’m counting down to now is GTA5 and most definitely XCOM: Enemy Within in November.

114 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:37:42pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

Only things I’m counting down to now is GTA5 and most definitely XCOM: Enemy Within in November.

I am catching up on 14 years of Japanese RPGs. And Western RPGs. And whatever else I can get my hands on.

It’s a binge.

115 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:38:16pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

We shouldn’t get involved with with that. The object is simply to kill him as an object lesson: “Using WMDs will get you killed.” Getting involved in the aftermath in Syria isn’t worth doing, other than perhaps to bankroll the least-worst faction that has a chance to win.

What bullshit. We can’t just kill a head of state and not get involved with the aftermath.

Is this some sort of mutated offspring of the shitty logic that got us eyeball deep in Iraq for the last decade?

116 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:43:56pm

re: #112 Pavlovian Hive Mind

orteil.dashnet.org

Well, that was easy to script…still running. Will throw it into a while loop tomorrow but was able to generate 500+ cookies in less than thirty seconds.

117 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:44:47pm

re: #114 klys

I am catching up on 14 years of Japanese RPGs. And Western RPGs. And whatever else I can get my hands on.

It’s a binge.

I’m with Yahtzee when it comes to JRPGs, they’re more about the spectacle and the angst since the introduction of 3D.

118 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:45:08pm

They all basically just died.

Image: 6778326482_664e9a8f4d_z.jpg

119 BongCrodny  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:45:39pm

re: #82 OhNoZombies!

What? A great story with a crappy ending?
Heehee.

I wouldn’t call the Bible a great story.

Too much deux ex machina.

120 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:47:01pm

This just kicks ass. Image: XB-47large.jpg

121 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:47:23pm

re: #116 darthstar

Well, that was easy to script…still running. Will throw it into a while loop tomorrow but was able to generate 500+ cookies in less than thirty seconds.

Wait until you get a couple of time machines going. ;)

122 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:48:04pm

re: #117 Targetpractice

I’m with Yahtzee when it comes to JRPGs, they’re more about the spectacle and the angst since the introduction of 3D.

They are more about telling a story and less about freedom of choice. But there are times I don’t mind that.

Of course, my other new addiction is a cross between Pokemon and Bejeweled, so… highbrow my tastes may not be.

123 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:50:03pm

re: #121 Feline Fearless Leader

Wait until you get a couple of time machines going. ;)

Yeah, but what’s the point…just keep clicking the cookie? It makes as much sense as Halo or Doom or Mario Brothers (those games are all equal, right?)

124 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:50:11pm

re: #120 Gus

This just kicks ass. Image: XB-47large.jpg

TURN DOWN THAT MUSIC!!!

125 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:50:16pm

re: #119 BongCrodny

I wouldn’t call the Bible a great story.

Too much deux ex machina.

So you didn’t care for ‘Lost’?
:-)

126 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:50:45pm

re: #122 klys

They are more about telling a story and less about freedom of choice. But there are times I don’t mind that.

Of course, my other new addiction is a cross between Pokemon and Bejeweled, so… highbrow my tastes may not be.

Freedom of choice is what I’m all about. Between an open sandbox and being lead down a linear corridor for 20+ hours before the game “gets good” (I’m lookin’ at you, FFXIII), I’ll stick to the sandbox. I’d rather stumble across the story bit by bit than have it dumped in my lap like a copy of War and Peace.

127 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:51:00pm

re: #123 darthstar

Yeah, but what’s the point…just keep clicking the cookie? It makes as much sense as Halo or Doom or Mario Brothers (those games are all equal, right?)

My current goal is to find all the upgrades.

128 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:51:22pm

re: #125 OhNoZombies!

So you didn’t care for ‘Lost’?
:-)

Watched the pilot when it first aired.
My reaction? “Watch them all be dead already”.
My family said this is different.
It wasn’t.
I WIN!

129 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:52:06pm

re: #120 Gus

Cheech and Chong go to Vancouver.

130 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:52:35pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

Freedom of choice is what I’m all about. Between an open sandbox and being lead down a linear corridor for 20+ hours before the game “gets good” (I’m lookin’ at you, FFXIII), I’ll stick to the sandbox. I’d rather stumble across the story bit by bit than have it dumped in my lap like a copy of War and Peace.

Which is totally fair. There are days I like that too.

I am mostly luxuriating in having the free time to play things right now.

131 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:53:34pm

re: #123 darthstar

Yeah, but what’s the point…just keep clicking the cookie? It makes as much sense as Halo or Doom or Mario Brothers (those games are all equal, right?)

Well, you can just click the cookie. Or use cookies from your bank to buy stuff that clicks for you, or makes cookies for you via other means. And, of course, it escalates from there.

I think I temporarily topped out at 16.4 Mcps. But that’s after building stuff up for a while. (And the only real decision making is deciding when/if to build, upgrade, or save cookies up to buy into a better production method. You can also just let it run on the side to accumulate cookies and come back later.

132 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:53:35pm

I bet half the viewers thought the same.
XD

133 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:54:21pm

re: #127 klys

My current goal is to find all the upgrades.

Pretty much what I am doing. Have found all but two and I suspect I know what I have to do to release those.

134 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:54:51pm

re: #127 klys

My current goal is to find all the upgrades.

Man, cursors get expensive.

135 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:54:56pm

That game was made by an orthopedic surgeon. A pox on thee!!!

136 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:54:59pm

re: #128 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Watched the pilot when it first aired.
My reaction? “Watch them all be dead already”.
My family said this is different.
It wasn’t.
I WIN!

Guessed that within a week of the pilot airing. And then spent years listening to people say “No, JJ wouldn’t do that, he’s got this big reveal at the end that will blow everybody’s minds!” Only to find out that, like Moore with BSG, they were playing it by ear all the way to the end.

137 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:55:31pm

re: #132 Pavlovian Hive Mind

I bet half the viewers thought the same.
XD

I did.
Then I just stopped caring.

138 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:56:14pm

re: #130 klys

Which is totally fair. There are days I like that too.

I am mostly luxuriating in having the free time to play things right now.

No prob with that. I’ve been on a bit of a strategy game bent on late, bouncing between Tropico and Civ 5 for the last couple weeks.

139 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:56:38pm

re: #137 OhNoZombies!

I did.
Then I just stopped caring.

Yep, never watched an episode other than the first.
Thought it was boring.

140 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:56:49pm

On an unrelated bitching note, unidentified medical issues that you can’t seem to get the doctors to actually care about and troubleshoot suck ass.

141 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:57:28pm

re: #134 klys

Man, cursors get expensive.

More expensive than shipments for me right now.

And the cat is watching the cookie waterfall and pawing at it now and then.
:)

142 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:57:30pm

I waste copious amounts of time in BF3 at the Metro. Total chaos.

143 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:58:05pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

No prob with that. I’ve been on a bit of a strategy game bent on late, bouncing between Tropico and Civ 5 for the last couple weeks.

I snuck in a little bit of playtime on the new Civ 5 expansion before the road trip (when I was frantically prepping) and have really enjoyed the new cultural mechanics.

144 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:58:28pm

re: #139 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Yep, never watched an episode other than the first.
Thought it was boring.

You can only do the “slow burn” BS for so long before you tune out. I think I got three episodes in and then just gave up. My mother made it through the first season and that was it.

145 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:58:37pm

re: #115 Lidane

What bullshit. We can’t just kill a head of state and not get involved with the aftermath.

Is this some sort of mutated offspring of the shitty logic that got us eyeball deep in Iraq for the last decade?

Not to mention the longstanding executive order banning political assassinations. Then there’s the cost, in dollars, lives and international goodwill. The world is just waiting for the US to pass on playing world cop and the money we’d spend on ordnance, planes, ships, fuel, etc would be much better spent here at home. At only 9% support it’s looking like the American people are well past weary of this shit.

If we really want to make the world a better place we’ll take the money we would have spent demolishing Assad’s Syria and use it on solar and wind energy infrastructure. Much of the world sucks. It’s either always going to suck or it’s going to figure shit out on it’s own. We aren’t going to deliver any solution via airstrike.

146 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:58:42pm

re: #141 Feline Fearless Leader

More expensive than shipments for me right now.

And the cat is watching the cookie waterfall and pawing at it now and then.
:)

I …passed shipments a while ago.

The cookie waterfall is turned off so that my computer doesn’t freak out as much.

147 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:59:52pm

re: #143 klys

I snuck in a little bit of playtime on the new Civ 5 expansion before the road trip (when I was frantically prepping) and have really enjoyed the new cultural mechanics.

It’s caused me nothing but headaches. It’s neat to see the great works and such, but it totally turned the old cultural victory strategy on its ear.

148 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 9:59:58pm

re: #139 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Yep, never watched an episode other than the first.
Thought it was boring.

I think I stopped after the third season.
I was also told my conclusion was wrong, so I tried to see it through.
But yeah, it was boring.

149 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:00:15pm

re: #132 Pavlovian Hive Mind

I bet half the viewers thought the same.
XD

What was even worse was the writers denied it too, then 6 years later it’s Purgatory.

150 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:00:56pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

It’s caused me nothing but headaches. It’s neat to see the great works and such, but it totally turned the old cultural victory strategy on its ear.

Cultural victories tended to be my default victories (in my strange playstyle) so having something that let me change it up really caught my attention.

I can see where it would disrupt strategies though.

151 BongCrodny  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:01:00pm

Well, I don’t know about you guys, but I’m producing 782,064.2 cookies per second.

Take that, you ^@!!?0�*)(!!)%) Keebler elves.

152 freetoken  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:01:24pm

Human Events luvs them some Cruz:

GOP WANTS A 2016 CANDIDATE WHO’S FEARLESS; THAT’S WHAT TED CRUZ IS SELLING

Written by one of the most pretentious of the atavists, Byron York:

“I’m sick of Republicans letting Obama walk all over them,” says Denise Roberts, a Dublin, N.H., Republican who has come to a grand old home in the shadow of Mount Monadnock to get a first-hand look at Sen. Ted Cruz, perhaps the hottest might-be-candidate in the GOP 2016 presidential field.

Cruz, says Roberts, isn’t afraid to stand up to Obama, or anyone else. “I would vote for him for president from here until 2016,” she declares. “I agree with him, big time.”

Roberts isn’t alone among Republicans these days, certainly not in New Hampshire. “I’m so tired of the old school, like McCain and Graham, I’m tired of those guys,” says Jonathan Brooks, from Merrimack. “I’m excited about Cruz. I’m interested in his brand of politics.”

“Cruz isn’t going to do that back-and-forth, one minute he’s saying he’s a conservative and the next minute he’s selling us out completely,” adds Marilyn Huston, of Keene.


[…]

The “base” seem to want blood (preferably Obama’s) and aren’t interested in governing. York summarizes:

But the larger point of Cruz’s presentation is not really Obamacare, or guns, or drones. It’s standing up to Obama. Does everyone in the audience believe that Republicans, with a minority in the Senate and a Democrat in the White House, can succeed in defunding Obamacare? Not at all. But they’re almost indescribably eager for a Republican to take a stand, and that’s what Ted Cruz is doing.

Lusting for an Alpha Male who’ll get their testosterone flowing.

153 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:02:33pm

A local news station runs a 10-minute segment about your cookies. Success!
(you win a cookie)

154 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:02:59pm

re: #152 freetoken

Human Events luvs them some Cruz:

GOP WANTS A 2016 CANDIDATE WHO’S FEARLESS; THAT’S WHAT TED CRUZ IS SELLING

Written by one of the most pretentious of the atavists, Byron York:

The “base” seem to want blood (preferably Obama’s) and aren’t interested in governing. York summarizes:

Lusting for an Alpha Male who’ll get their testosterone flowing.

Youtube Video

155 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:04:00pm

re: #150 klys

Cultural victories tended to be my default victories (in my strange playstyle) so having something that let me change it up really caught my attention.

I can see where it would disrupt strategies though.

My cultural strategy is one I picked up, namely to focus on a small empire that pumps out culture, as each new city increases the cost of the next policy. Of course, now that’s actually the worst strategy, as having more cities jumps you up the tech ladder faster and thus gets you cultural buildings faster.

Found that out the hard way when I was playing catch-up with Alexander all the way into the Modern Age.

156 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:04:05pm

re: #151 BongCrodny

Well, I don’t know about you guys, but I’m producing 782,064.2 cookies per second.

Take that, you ^@!!?0’*)(!!)%) Keebler elves.

Oooo… Frenzy. Just hit 17 Mcps. :)

157 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:04:53pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

My cultural strategy is one I picked up, namely to focus on a small empire that pumps out culture, as each new city increases the cost of the next policy. Of course, now that’s actually the worst strategy, as having more cities jumps you up the tech ladder faster and thus gets you cultural buildings faster.

Found that out the hard way when I was playing catch-up with Alexander all the way into the Modern Age.

Yeah, that bit me in the ass.
I hate creating large empires.

158 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:05:38pm

re: #152 freetoken

Roberts isn’t alone among Republicans these days, certainly not in New Hampshire. “I’m so tired of the old school, like McCain and Graham, I’m tired of those guys,” says Jonathan Brooks, from Merrimack. “I’m excited about Cruz. I’m interested in his brand of politics.”

Political parties are like blue jeans or sports cars. A brand.
/eyeroll

159 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:06:22pm

re: #157 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Yeah, that bit me in the ass.
I hate creating large empires.

I play Civ in a totally non-standard way that involves eliminating all but one opponent …on the game set-up screen.

And then happily creating a large empire that spans the continent and generally winning by either science or culture. Despite the large empire.

Getting the military victory for the achievement was an utter bitch for me.

160 freetoken  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:06:51pm

More of this lust for an ultimate he-man to lead us, is found in the latest comment to Time magazine’s article The Escalating GOP Call to Impeach Obama :

continentalpass 23 minutes ago

nice try.


The time magazine attempt at “let;s minimize and de-legitimize any discussion of impeaching barack hussein obama” is exactly what is expected from a piece of garbage like this rogers character and the piece of garbage time magazine.


This guy obama is an absolute disaster as President. Completely out of his league. The whole world - the world leaders of importance, like Putin, Xi Jinping (the Chinese President for all the libs who don’t know), Angela Merkel, etc. - all know that brack hussein obama is an incompetent wimp.

Putin punks him out, insults him for the whole world to see. And there’s nothing barack hussein obama can do about it, because he is a wimp. The disgusting, disgraceful, despicable left-wing media CAN NOT protect barack hussein obama on the global stage because they are POWERLESS globally. The leaders - or the people - of Russia, China, Germany, Japan, Great Britain, and even Egypt, Libya and the rest of the have-nots in the muslim world don’t CARE about the left-wing, gay-loving, gay-marriage, politically correct, income-redistribution, barack-hussein-obama loving left-wing media. In fact, the rest of the world - at least those who matter - mock the left-wing American media.

[…]

The hate-right is full of those fearful of their emasculation, or something.

161 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:08:01pm

re: #128 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Watched the pilot when it first aired.
My reaction? “Watch them all be dead already”.
My family said this is different.
It wasn’t.
I WIN!

Yes, but we had to wait all those years to be vindicated.

162 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:08:16pm

re: #159 klys

I play Civ in a totally non-standard way that involves eliminating all but one opponent …on the game set-up screen.

And then happily creating a large empire that spans the continent and generally winning by either science or culture. Despite the large empire.

Getting the military victory for the achievement was an utter bitch for me.

What difficulty do you play?

163 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:08:35pm

re: #160 freetoken

More of this lust for an ultimate he-man to lead us, is found in the latest comment to Time magazine’s article The Escalating GOP Call to Impeach Obama :

The hate-right is full of those fearful of their emasculation, or something.

Driving through Arizona we encountered a van covered with somewhat …disturbing caricatures of Obama and typical right-wing screeds. Also at least one billboard stating that Obama loves the Muslim Brotherhood.

164 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:09:12pm

re: #162 Pavlovian Hive Mind

What difficulty do you play?

I have probably made my way up to Standard. Generally not any higher than that.

I tend to be happy in my little cocoon of non-standard playing.

165 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:09:14pm

re: #159 klys

I play Civ in a totally non-standard way that involves eliminating all but one opponent …on the game set-up screen.

And then happily creating a large empire that spans the continent and generally winning by either science or culture. Despite the large empire.

Getting the military victory for the achievement was an utter bitch for me.

Military victory for me was pretty easy. Built up my tech base and kept a moderate standing army while half the world fought with the other half. So that, by the time I decide to start conquering everything I see, I’m sitting at the quiv of late-20th century tech while they’re still in the Napoleonic era. Something darkly satisfying about blowing up black powder cannons with a mobile rocket launcher.

166 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:09:55pm

re: #163 klys

Driving through Arizona we encountered a van covered with somewhat …disturbing caricatures of Obama and typical right-wing screeds. Also at least one billboard stating that Obama loves the Muslim Brotherhood.

Gosh, come to southern Missouri if you want an experience. We also have tornados!

167 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:13:10pm

re: #166 prairiefire

Gosh, come to southern Missouri if you want an experience. We also have tornados!

I do like tornadoes. And thunderstorms.

But I am declaring myself done with travel …after the highland games this weekend. And the renfaire sometime in the next month.

168 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:13:23pm

My current game sucks.
No horses.
No iron.

169 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:14:47pm

re: #168 Pavlovian Hive Mind

My current game sucks.
No horses.
No iron.

Yeah, that’s another thing it seems that Firaxis did to promote larger empires, spreading resources out even farther.

170 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:17:23pm

And Gandhi’s a freaking warmonger…
;)

171 BongCrodny  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:18:27pm

I like the guy who made the analysis (long since forgotten) that Lost was structured like a video game: at the end of each season, the “boss object” was blown up.

In the first season, it was the hatch.
In the second season, it was the clock.
In the third season, it was the Looking Glass station.
In the fourth season, it was the Kahana (ship).
In the fifth season, it was the nuclear bomb.
In the sixth season, it was Flocke.

So, yeah. Video game.

172 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:18:35pm

re: #170 Pavlovian Hive Mind

And Gandhi’s a freaking warmonger…
;)

Apparently that’s a long-running series gag. Had to do with a glitch in how the first game’s code handled aggressiveness.

173 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:19:55pm

re: #160 freetoken

More of this lust for an ultimate he-man to lead us, is found in the latest comment to Time magazine’s article The Escalating GOP Call to Impeach Obama :

The hate-right is full of those fearful of their emasculation, or something.

Yeah.
The particular demographic that the GOP is catering to, needs to protect the traditional power structure…
Heh.

174 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:20:32pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

Apparently that’s a long-running series gag. Had to do with a glitch in how the first game’s code handled aggressiveness.

The only thing keeping him from beating me is my capital sits a top a hill.
Heh…soon as he gets siege weapons…I’m gone.

175 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:20:52pm

My 2 cents regarding Syria. As bad as Assad is, those who would take control in a vacuum would be far worse. We haven’t learned our lesson.

176 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:22:30pm

re: #174 Pavlovian Hive Mind

The only thing keeping him from beating me is my capital sits a top a hill.
Heh…soon as he gets siege weapons…I’m gone.

I’ve been considering a session playing at Genghis, as he gets a pretty powerful siege unit early on, as it doesn’t require any set-up before usage.

177 Kragar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:25:05pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

I’ve been considering a session playing at Genghis, as he gets a pretty powerful siege unit early on, as it doesn’t require any set-up before usage.

I’ve been running as Morocco a lot since BNW came out.

178 freetoken  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:25:31pm

Mullah Mohler, who heads the educational institution training those to be religious leaders for American’s largest Protestant denomination (SBC), and who cleansed his school years ago of all non-fundamentalists, laments his victimhood:

“It is the Price of Citizenship”?—An Elegy for Religious Liberty in America

Anyone who still doubts that the normalization of homosexuality and the legalization of same-sex marriage will represent a seismic shift in the culture at large needs only to look to New Mexico to see that nothing less than religious liberty is now under threat—and in a big way.

[…]

Justice Bosson asserts that “there is a price, one that we all have to pay somewhere in our civic life.” The New Mexico Supreme Court has now made clear that the price to be paid by many is the forfeiture of their religious liberty.

As is the usual case, Mohler thinks he’s being victimized because this (the NM photographer law case) has to do with his particular religion.

Mohler fails to mention - because it would lay bare the special pleading nature of his article - that religious practices have previously been curtailed or modified by civil law. Polygamists are not allowed to be such (legally) by the State. Indigenous religions wanting to use mind altering substances are disallowed or regulated. In the extreme case, if someone wanted to allow human sacrifice that is obviously murder. And so on.

But Mohler only judges the world by his own beliefs, which of course he claims comes directly from God.

179 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:25:56pm

re: #170 Pavlovian Hive Mind

And Gandhi’s a freaking warmonger…
;)

Actually…

Youtube Video

180 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:26:29pm

re: #175 GlutenFreeJesus

My 2 cents regarding Syria. As bad as Assad is, those who would take control in a vacuum would be far worse. We haven’t learned our lesson.

I think that is what Assad is betting on.

181 Kragar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:28:54pm

re: #175 GlutenFreeJesus

My 2 cents regarding Syria. As bad as Assad is, those who would take control in a vacuum would be far worse. We haven’t learned our lesson.

Assad is running a “poisoned well” strategy. If he goes down, he’ll make sure the whole thing goes with him.

182 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:28:56pm

re: #177 Kragar

I’ve been running as Morocco a lot since BNW came out.

Played as the Shoshone for my last game and did pretty well due to the expanded borders for every new city. Just stopped my expansion way too early.

183 Kragar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:30:33pm

re: #182 Targetpractice

Played as the Shoshone for my last game and did pretty well due to the expanded borders for every new city. Just stopped my expansion way too early.

The pathfinder ability is nice too.

184 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:31:07pm

re: #183 Kragar

The pathfinder ability is nice too.

Most definitely. Scouts that can stand their ground against early-game Barbarians and beat Archers easily? Yes please!

185 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:32:45pm

re: #182 Targetpractice

Played as the Shoshone for my last game and did pretty well due to the expanded borders for every new city. Just stopped my expansion way too early.

My last game with the Shoshone ended when I was trying to figure out what the fridge wasn’t running and instead discovered that that particular circuit breaker went to the office instead.

Oops.

186 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:33:26pm

Raging Barbarians FTW!

187 Kragar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:34:37pm

re: #186 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Raging Barbarians FTW!

Montezuma w/honor and piety versus raging barbarians

188 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:34:41pm

re: #186 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Raging Barbarians FTW!

Not when you’re trying to establish a trade network.

“Your caravan has been plundered.”
“FRAK!”

189 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:35:40pm

My major gripe is the wonders.
Too many.
Way too many.

190 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:36:08pm

re: #189 Pavlovian Hive Mind

My major gripe is the wonders.
Too many.
Way too many.

It makes scheduling in building city improvements more fun. :)

191 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:38:08pm

re: #190 klys

It makes scheduling in building city improvements more fun. :)

The only one I tend to build now are the Pyramids.
Because WORK FASTER DAMMIT!

192 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:39:37pm

re: #191 Pavlovian Hive Mind

The only one I tend to build now are the Pyramids.
Because WORK FASTER DAMMIT!

Same here. The free workers are also a definite must.

193 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:40:03pm

Syria…
I just don’t know what, if anything, we should do.
Not enough clear info. And then there’s Russia.
I do know that there ain’t enough money in the world for me to entertain the thought of being the President.

194 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:40:08pm

I think I will let my cookies run themselves up overnight so that I can buy all the things in the morning and try to figure out what the last two upgrades are.

And in the meantime I will go play more Puzzle and Dragons and try to remember that the alarm will go off again at 7:45am.

195 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:40:10pm

Tough Guy Pulls Gun on Elementary School Students After They Make Fun of His Confederate Flag

Police in Virginia Beach arrested an 18-year-old man yesterday and charged him with two misdemeanor counts of brandishing a firearm after he allegedly pointed his gun at elementary school students.

Joshua P. Dalton was in a blue pickup truck at the time of the incident, and was reportedly stopped behind a Pembroke Elementary school bus that was unloading children. Two students returned to the bus and informed the driver that Dalton had pulled a gun out and was aiming it at the bus.

The bus driver brought the children back to the school and alerted the authorities.

According to police, Dalton was upset about disparaging remarks the students made concerning a Confederate flag on his truck.

He was booked into jail and later released on bond. A female passenger in Dalton’s truck was not arrested.

196 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:40:40pm

I also always found the difficulty curves funny.
King? I crush the AI.
Emperor? LOL I’m screwed.

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:41:15pm

re: #194 klys

I think I will let my cookies run themselves up overnight so that I can buy all the things in the morning and try to figure out what the last two upgrades are.

And in the meantime I will go play more Puzzle and Dragons and try to remember that the alarm will go off again at 7:45am.

I think the last few upgrades require you to have (or buy) a 99.9 billion cost object. Now worth staying up to find out at this point.

198 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:41:31pm

If I miss anything in the transition from Civ IV to Civ V, it’s the little animated videos for each of the wonders. It was worth it to build the wonders just to see the little video of them being “constructed.”

199 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:45:04pm

I dislike the espionage system.
Too easy.

200 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:47:12pm

re: #199 Pavlovian Hive Mind

I dislike the espionage system.
Too easy.

I’ve actually found it rather difficult. Do I use the spy to steal tech, protect what I have, rig an election in a nation-state, or (post-BNW) work as a diplomat to sway votes in the World Congress?

201 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:48:04pm

And The Lord said, “Whoops !”

Nighty night.

202 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:54:21pm

re: #173 OhNoZombies!

Yeah.
The particular demographic that the GOP is catering to, needs to protect the traditional power structure…
Heh.

Interestingly, Bobby Jindal is giving some pushback against this idea:

Republican lawmakers who suggest there are grounds to impeach President Barack Obama are focusing their energy in the wrong direction, Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana said on Sunday.

Jindal, a Republican, said GOP lawmakers should focus instead on getting rid of Obama’s signature health care law and promoting greater school choice for parents.

“Look, I reject that kind of talk,” Jindal said of impeachment chatter, speaking on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“The reality is I didn’t like it when the left spent eight years trying to delegitimize President Bush, calling to question his election. I don’t think we should be doing that to President Obama,” continued Jindal, the chairman of the Republican Governors Association.

Of course, this talk may be for show (in which case he’ll likely walk it back) or he may seriously want the BS to stop. I leave to the group to decide which it is. As for me, I have to get to bed.

Good Night, All.

203 freetoken  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:25:48pm

One of my favorites:

MP3 Audio

204 subterraneanhomesickalien  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:43:58pm
Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress.

I got this message after clicking on the Wonkette link in my bookmarks.

What the fuck does sit mean, and how do I fix it?

205 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:55:32am

re: #204 subterraneanhomesickalien

It doesn’t sound like it has anything to do with you, but their PHP server.

206 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:59:36am

MP3 Audio

207 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:11:14am

Don’t know how many of you caught the SyFy pilot for “Rewind”, but it reminded me strongly of

Spoiler

Time Tunnel!!!!

That’s all.

Oh, except for this:

Spoiler

It was somewhat amateurish, with wooden acting by many of the characters.

208 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:15:47am

MP3 Audio

209 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:33:53am

How SyFy has fallen.

210 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:05:03am

I wonder who green-lit that pilot. What a waste of money. I wonder if they spent all the money on the period props?

211 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:30:16am

This is fucking outrageous. Zimmerman is getting off scot-free in more ways than one.

O’Mara: George Zimmerman will ask state to cover $200K-$300K of his legal bills
Because he was acquitted, state law allows him to recoup thousands.

“That would be on top of the estimated $902,000 that public agencies already have spent on Zimmerman’s five-week second-degree murder trial that ended July 13.”

Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of dollars people sent to that murderer that he lived on for over a year, diverting money from his “legal fund” to pay off bills and enjoy his infamy.

O’Mara can eat his $400/hr as far as I care because he got at least what he claims is “owed” in publicity. Or let his client work it off.

orlandosentinel.com

212 EdDantes  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:32:47am

The “music” was horrendous on that video but it was nice to see some old technology friends from the 80’s. My first computer was an Atari.

213 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:44:35am

It appears that Rewind was not picked up as a series, so SyFy just showed the pilot to fill some time (and perhaps they were contractually obligated to show it at least once.)

214 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:48:13am

But wait… also in the news this week:

‘12 Monkeys’ Adaptation Gets Pilot Order at Syfy

A month after Syfy put an adaptation of 12 Monkeys into development, the network is moving forward with its small-screen take.

The NBCUniversal-owned cable network announced Monday that it has ordered the project to pilot after initially considering a straight-to-series pickup for the drama.

Based on Universal Pictures’ feature of the same name from Terry Gilliam, which starred Bruce Willis as James Cole, a convicted criminal in a post-apocalyptic future where the Earth’s population is forced to live underground after a deadly virus. In a bid to earn a pardon, Cole uses the imperfect science of time travel to help collect information on the virus released by the Army of the Twelve Monkeys.

[…]

SyFy must be really wanting a time-travel themed show. Rewind wasn’t it. Could “12 Monkeys” make it as a small screen series?

215 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:58:49am

re: #212 EdDantes

The “music” was horrendous on that video but it was nice to see some old technology friends from the 80’s. My first computer was an Atari.

My first home computer was a Mac Quadra linked with an external modem, total cost about $2K. That was about 1992. Up to then, I had only used computers at work and didn’t see much use for one at home, although I thought I could get more use out of the Mac if I decided to start my own business.

The first night I was connected to the WWW%20(as it was called then), I was on that thing for 8 hrs, having to go to work after getting only a couple hours of sleep. It didn’t take long to use up those “free” hours AOL provided and get into real money.

216 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:19:58am

Always pay attention to The Onion, people.

Youtube Video

“…dessicated husk…”

217 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:16:30am

The Muslim Brotherhood is boycotting this election, and it sounds as though they’re hoping for trouble.

Polls open in Jordan municipal election

france24.com

I’m as sick of the MB as I am of the RWNJs in this country. They play on the same field.

218 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:23:44am

For chrissakes, vaccinate your kids.

21 Measles Cases Linked to Megachurch in Texas

abcnews.go.com

219 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:35:34am

re: #207 freetoken

Don’t know how many of you caught the SyFy pilot for “Rewind”, but it reminded me strongly of

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The Time Tunnel was one of the only TV series that ever scared the hell out of me.

Robert Duvall (!) was the guest star, and in the episode The Time Tunnel ran out of power.

Duvall’s character — a villain — ultimately wound up stuck in some future beehive or something, waiting for giant mutant bees to return.

It being the 60’s, there was no blood and guts — but for about the next two weeks, every time I saw a bee I ran like hell.

220 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:41:45am
221 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:43:58am
222 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:49:09am

If we define “Sodomy” according to the original Scriptural interpretation, in which the people of Sodom were judged for their cruelty to the poor and homeless, Rand Paul is a classic Sodomite. I would even say that Bryan Fischer is also a Sodomite.

223 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:49:32am

re: #221 Vicious Babushka

Rand Paul can be really daft at times. However, the article writer (linked in the tweet) I find to be a bit dishonest, too, as there is a bit of slight of hand going on in defining “rights”.

224 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:52:33am

re: #223 freetoken

Rand Paul can be really daft at times. However, the article writer (linked in the tweet) I find to be a bit dishonest, too, as there is a bit of slight of hand going on in defining “rights”.

I believe the CEO of Nestle walked back his claim that “all water should be privatized” and apologized for sounding like a heartless prick.

225 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:56:20am

Al Arabiya EnglishVerified account ‏@AlArabiya_Eng

#BreakingNews : #Salafist group behind killing of #Tunisia politicians: PM

Salafists are ultra-conservative, if you didn’t know; and Ansar al-Sharia has been declared a terrorist group by Tunisia.

226 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:57:56am

re: #223 freetoken

Rand Paul can be really daft at times. However, the article writer (linked in the tweet) I find to be a bit dishonest, too, as there is a bit of slight of hand going on in defining “rights”.

The slight of hand is on Rand’s part, though, so it’s perfectly fair to lambaste him for it.

Where are you seeing a slight-of-hand from the writer?

227 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:00:38am

This was the most snotty, condescending article I have read about Miley’s WTF lame performance.

228 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:10:02am

re: #227 Vicious Babushka

This was the most snotty, condescending article I have read about Miley’s WTF lame performance.

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Please spare us any further mention of MC on this site…I have fled here to escape it…

229 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:12:30am

re: #228 Sol Berdinowitz

Please spare us any further mention of MC on this site…I have fled here to escape it…

You’re always complaining about something, you crabby old man.

230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:16:26am

re: #228 Sol Berdinowitz

Please spare us any further mention of MC on this site…I have fled here to escape it…

See, I don’t give a shit about Miley Cyrus, but I don’t insist other people shut up about it. You’re not going to escape it on this site, and I don’t know why you think you would.

You often seem to have a weird view of this site, and think that it has rules or customs other than what it has. It’s a pretty loose place, people can, and do, talk about whatever.

231 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:20:35am

I like pie.

232 Stoatly  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:29:19am

re: #228 Sol Berdinowitz

Damn Cyrus, get off my lawn!

233 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:30:17am

Interesting news from the DC universe. While lots of people are upset about casting Ben Affleck as Batman, there are rumors that Lex Luthor will be played by: Miley Cyrus! Just kidding, its rumored that Bryan Cranston will be signed to a multi-movie deal. Cranston has the potential to create a character as memorable as Ledger’s Joker. However, Cranston’s character won’t by the DC Luthor; he’ll be playing Walter White to most of us, which I love, but I wonder if the fanboys will be upset. Of course this might just be a fantasy; I remember a rumor got started that Ian McKellen would replace Richard Harris as Dumbledore, when it was pretty obvious you couldn’t have Gandalf playing Dumbledore.

234 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:30:57am

Syriasly, people.

235 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:31:21am

Oh, and good morning.

236 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:34:45am

re: #231 Amory Blaine

I like pie.

You can always talk about pie!

Blueberry pie!

237 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:35:19am

re: #233 aagcobb

Life…is…just…a…fantasy.

Youtube Video

238 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:35:56am

Anybody who thinks that Israel or AIPAC is manipulating the US to attack Syria is wrong.

239 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:38:38am

re: #236 Vicious Babushka

OMG you have no idea what I’d do to get my hands on that right now.

240 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:44:57am

The weasel that gives weasels a bad name is weaseling out.

Walker backs off campaign jobs pledge at Merrill stop

Governor Walker promised Wisconsin 250,000 new jobs again and again while campaigning in 2010.

He said he’d accomplish that in his first term as governor.

But the latest Milwaukee Journal Sentinel report puts Walker less than a third of the way there.

He has less than a year and a half to create nearly 170,000 jobs to keep that pledge.

On Monday in Merrill, he carefully backed away from the specific number.

“My goal wasn’t so much to hit a magic number as much as it was, in the four years before I took office, when I was campaigning, I saw that we lost over 133,000 jobs in the state. I said, ‘it’s really not about jobs, it’s about real people, real jobs like those here, and more importantly, affecting real families all across the state,’” Walker said.

Here’s douchebag talking out of his ass about how fucking awesome he is.

Youtube Video

241 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:46:24am

I would have gone to Trump University but the Jenny Craig Culinary Academy has a nicer campus.

242 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:48:47am
When I grow up, I’m going to Bovine University. Ralph Wiggum
243 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:48:54am

re: #239 Amory Blaine

OMG you have no idea what I’d do to get my hands on that right now.

All eated up!

244 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:51:00am

re: #226 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Where are you seeing a slight-of-hand from the writer?

Two ways:

First, that writer is trying for a religious righteousness (the liberal “Jesus”) while lambasting Paul for his own view of “rights”, which are also religious in nature.

In a material universe the religious idea of “rights” doesn’t work, whether they be fundamentalist or “liberal”.

“Rights” are a human creation, a part of culture. They are pretty much whatever we want them to be. Thus to speak of “rights” in absolute terms doesn’t mean anything if there are no absolute right and wrongs.

Different societies come up with different models of “rights”. Some may work better than others, if we evaluate them on some defined set of criteria. Yet in no sense are they absolute, as self-existing things in the universe. What we have are agreements among ourselves on how we want our society to be.

There is a fast and loose play on the word “right” used in so many of these diatribes.

Also:

I don’t believe I have a “right” to water because, in practice, I don’t know what that means. Certainly it does NOT mean I can just go down to San Diego river and start taking water. I also can’t drill a well any place I so desire in San Diego county. I am also not allowed to go to the Colorado river and take some water for myself. None of the water companies (districts) will give me water, though they will sell it to me, just like Crystal Geyser (though a lot cheaper.) So, in what sense do I have a “right” to water?

245 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:51:30am

Is GG upset that MC is getting more attention?

246 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:52:49am

Many self-congratulations…

eff.org

247 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:53:34am
248 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:54:29am

re: #245 Justanotherhuman

Is GG upset that MC is getting more attention?

Get ready for the video release of Glenn Greenwald twerking.

It is a combo response to MC and yesterday’s release of the Assange 80s music video.

249 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:54:36am

re: #245 Justanotherhuman

Is GG upset that MC is getting more attention?

Expect another bombshell story by tomorrow.

250 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:56:06am

re: #214 freetoken

And Doctor Who can’t be licensed, why?

Oh right, SyFy is something akin to the Dudebro Channel.

251 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:00:49am

Holy crap…yesterday was Conservative Blackout Day…and I missed it.

Image: 1234009_10151882557366081_1468703359_n.jpg

252 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:01:06am

re: #245 Justanotherhuman

Is GG upset that MC is getting more attention?

GG is thinking “Now why didn’t I put on a PedoBear unitard and twerk in Robin Thicke’s face while shouting NSA! NSA! NSA!”

253 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:02:41am

How about Miley comes and twerks for you Bryan?
(I don’t think that would work, Bryan would probably prefer Glenn’s twerking)

254 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:11:06am

re: #230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It’s a pretty loose place, people can, and do, talk about whatever.

exactly, and I can complain about stuff, too…

255 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:14:01am

Raking it in on fear.

Oil jumps to above $108 a barrel on Syrian crisis

hosted.ap.org

256 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:15:33am

re: #255 Justanotherhuman

Nevermind that Syria doesn’t have oil in significant amounts, or that it doesn’t hold any chokepoints for transit of oil (Hi Suez Canel!).

They will use panicky hysteria to make money.

257 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:16:55am

re: #244 freetoken

First, that writer is trying for a religious righteousness (the liberal “Jesus”) while lambasting Paul for his own view of “rights”, which are also religious in nature.

Jesus doesn’t come up in the article. Not sure what you’re talking about there, can you explain?

In a material universe the religious idea of “rights” doesn’t work, whether they be fundamentalist or “liberal”.

The writer is not using a religious idea of rights.

“Rights” are a human creation, a part of culture. They are pretty much whatever we want them to be. Thus to speak of “rights” in absolute terms doesn’t mean anything if there are no absolute right and wrongs.

Rights aren’t being spoken of in absolute terms. Of course rights are a human creation. That doesn’t mean they’re ‘whatever we want them to be’. The philosophy of human rights isn’t just ‘make up whatever rights we want’.

Different societies come up with different models of “rights”. Some may work better than others, if we evaluate them on some defined set of criteria. Yet in no sense are they absolute, as self-existing things in the universe. What we have are agreements among ourselves on how we want our society to be.

Again, the author didn’t claim absolute rights, so I’m not sure why you’re tilting at that strawmill.

I don’t believe I have a “right” to water because, in practice, I don’t know what that means. Certainly it does NOT mean I can just go down to San Diego river and start taking water. I also can’t drill a well any place I so desire in San Diego county. I am also not allowed to go to the Colorado river and take some water for myself. None of the water companies (districts) will give me water, though they will sell it to me, just like Crystal Geyser (though a lot cheaper.) So, in what sense do I have a “right” to water?

You just described how you have a right to water. Water exists as a collective resource, as a distributed right, and so gets regulated.


So, my problems with your argument are:

1. You incorrectly claim the writer is making a religious claim about rights

2. You incorrectly claim the writer is talking about absolute rights, not those that are decided on by society. The author is making an argument for what rights should be, not appealing to ‘revealed truth’ in the way a religious argument does.

3. Your final objection to how the fact you can’t just take water means you don’t have a right to water makes as little sense as saying that just because I can’t schedule a trial for whenever means I don’t have the right to a speedy trial.


Water is a communal resource. This means that all of us have the right to water. It is not complicated.

258 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:17:48am

re: #254 Sol Berdinowitz

exactly, and I can complain about stuff, too…

Sure. Complain away, but why say you come here to escape that stuff? People here talk about pop culture all the time.

259 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:18:16am

re: #256 ProTARDISLiberal

Nevermind that Syria doesn’t have oil in significant amounts, or that it doesn’t hold any chokepoints for transit of oil (Hi Suez Canel!).

They will use panicky hysteria to make money.

Fear of Doctor causes jump in purchase of disintegrators by Daleks. Davros declares worries unwarranted in public statement.
/

260 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:18:18am

re: #255 Justanotherhuman

Thing is that Syria by itself has little impact on global oil prices. They can’t shut down the Suez Canal. They can’t go after the Persian Gulf oil fields.

What they can do is attack Israel, which would be a deathknell for the regime. They could attack Iraq, but that would open a Pandora’s Box - between Kurds and Iraqis who wouldn’t take that sitting down.

Iran is the wildcard when it comes to oil prices, and they’ve been pretty quiet of late.

Frankly, the fighting in Syria and the ongoing mess in Egypt are already built in to the oil prices - especially when Egypt does have control over the Suez canal and has been trying to keep Sinai stable despite the violent outbreaks and threats from the MB. But even the MB has to realize that shutting down the Suez would be a huge hit to the economy and further alienate the group from most Egyptians who want to see them permanently gone.

261 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:19:19am

re: #256 ProTARDISLiberal

Nevermind that Syria doesn’t have oil in significant amounts, or that it doesn’t hold any chokepoints for transit of oil (Hi Suez Canel!).

They will use panicky hysteria to make money.

bloomberg.com

262 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:21:57am

re: #260 lawhawk

Thing is that Syria by itself has little impact on global oil prices. They can’t shut down the Suez Canal. They can’t go after the Persian Gulf oil fields.

What they can do is attack Israel, which would be a deathknell for the regime. They could attack Iraq, but that would open a Pandora’s Box - between Kurds and Iraqis who wouldn’t take that sitting down.

Iran is the wildcard when it comes to oil prices, and they’ve been pretty quiet of late.

Frankly, the fighting in Syria and the ongoing mess in Egypt are already built in to the oil prices - especially when Egypt does have control over the Suez canal and has been trying to keep Sinai stable despite the violent outbreaks and threats from the MB. But even the MB has to realize that shutting down the Suez would be a huge hit to the economy and further alienate the group from most Egyptians who want to see them permanently gone.

Quite. But the oil giants will take advantage of the fear.

263 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:22:31am

re: #256 ProTARDISLiberal

It isn’t the quest for stability, but predictability of events. Markets don’t care who’s in charge, only that they can predict what will happen tomorrow, 3 and 6 months from now, and a year from now. Stability helps with predictability, but stability is something that isn’t inherent to the Middle East, where instability is the dominant theme. There’s always a war, internal conflict, civil war, or threats of hostility. The Cold War tamped down some aspects of that, but played up others. The end of the Cold War more than 20 years ago opened up the floodgates on old grudges and hostilities, plus a few new ones.

264 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:26:01am

re: #258 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Sure. Complain away, but why say you come here to escape that stuff? People here talk about pop culture all the time.

because some pop culture has redeeming features and other pop culture just sucks big goat dicks

265 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:31:00am

re: #264 Sol Berdinowitz

because some pop culture has redeeming features and other pop culture just sucks big goat dicks

“New York, London, Paris, Munich Everybody talk about pop musik”
:)

266 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:34:20am

re: #264 Sol Berdinowitz

because some pop culture has redeeming features and other pop culture just sucks big goat dicks

That’s not a coherent answer to the question.

People sometimes talk about things that bore or don’t interest me. Unless you think the conversation is in some way unethical or harmful, there’s really not any point in trying to shut it down.

267 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:34:30am

re: #258 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Exactly!

How often do I hijack a thread and take it to Whovian land? I think you would agree it is pretty often.

268 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:35:19am
269 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:35:20am

re: #267 ProTARDISLiberal

Exactly!

How often do I hijack a thread and take it to Whovian land? I think you would agree it is pretty often.

Some might think too often. But there are worse things to fixate on.

270 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:35:31am

re: #266 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

That’s not a coherent answer to the question.

People sometimes talk about things that bore or don’t interest me. Unless you think the conversation is in some way unethical or harmful, there’s really not any point in trying to shut it down.

I am not trying to shut anything down… butif my whining is more annoying than MC, then I find it just deserts.

/

271 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:36:09am

re: #267 ProTARDISLiberal

Exactly!

How often do I hijack a thread and take it to Whovian land? I think you would agree it is pretty often.

Dr Who has redeeming features…I do not comment but do not object, either.

272 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:38:16am

Yosemite fire from 28,000’@JimCantore @APilotsEye pic.twitter.com/OdLlWVAOTp

Awful and sad. Image: BSpWo92CIAAau-G.jpg

273 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:38:36am

re: #267 ProTARDISLiberal

Exactly!

How often do I hijack a thread and take it to Whovian land? I think you would agree it is pretty often.

And people who are uninterested just ignore it. I mean, you might consider posting random personal shit less often because it is kind of jarring to other people when you suddenly drop an angst-bomb on the thread, but I don’t think scolding you about it is going to get anywhere. When you advocate the mass killing of civilians in one of your tantrums, that’s a different matter.

274 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:39:01am

re: #270 Sol Berdinowitz

I am not trying to shut anything down… butif my whining is more annoying than MC, then I find it just deserts.

/

You’re determined not to understand, so never mind.

275 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:39:43am

I like pizza.

Spoiler

with pineapple :p

276 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:40:58am

re: #275 Amory Blaine

Heathen!!!! Blasphemer!!!! ///

Oh, and for the record deep dish isn’t pizza. It’s a savory tort.

277 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:41:57am

re: #276 lawhawk

Heathen!!!! Blasphemer!!!! ///

Oh, and for the record deep dish isn’t pizza. It’s a savory tort.

Only a lawyer would call it that.
;P

278 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:45:13am

Wingnuts respond to Miley’s performance:
A mother vows to ABUSE her daughter in order to prevent her from acting like Miley
(Apparently she thinks Miley wasn’t beaten often enough)

279 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:45:50am

Well. Even the sanest place on the internet has it’s cast of characters. Good Morning all. Glad to wake up and hear hostilities have not broken out with Syria. Might just be a matter of time, but I’ll take it. I get this awful feeling hearing this or that pronouncement about our forces in the news. I’m just war weary, and I have a lot less at stake than all those military families.

280 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:47:48am

re: #276 lawhawk

Heathen!!!! Blasphemer!!!! ///

Oh, and for the record deep dish isn’t pizza. It’s a savory tort.

Hand-tossed, thin crust pizza for the win! And a bit more sauce & cheese. Even though I’m restricted to one small slice, I just hate that thick, doughy mess they try to pass off as pizza.

Image: l.jpg

281 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:48:07am

re: #278 Vicious Babushka

I do not want my daughter to be held up as a blank canvas for middle America to project its image of what an ideal teenager should be and then cause massive national disppointment and shock when she turns out to be an individual with her own tastes and ideas, and I am prepared to beat her to do so.

right.

282 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:49:42am

re: #276 lawhawk

Oh, and for the record deep dish isn’t pizza. It’s a savory tort.

Also, pan pizzas and thick crust pizza are a waste. Just eat a loaf of bread already. :p

There are a ton of pizza places around here that mimic New York style pizza — large slices of thin crust goodness loaded down with toppings that you can fold in half. Those are my favorites.

283 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:51:05am

Sweet jeebus. These photos put all the rest of those about the Rim Fire to shame.

There’s a furious beauty in the fires roaring through the tinder-dry forests in and around Yosemite. They just can’t end soon enough…

284 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:52:52am

yup

285 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:55:12am

re: #282 Lidane

Speaking of “New York style” pizza, there was a list going around showing top pizza towns nationally, and NYC didn’t win that - even though all those above it were trying to do NYC style pizza. When you’re trying to mimic NYC pizza, that should tell you right there who’s got the pizza worth imitating.

That doesn’t mean you can’t get a bad slice in NYC. You most certainly can. But the best slices can be had here too - and I’d say that extends into Northern NJ and CT as well - all purveyors of thin slice with the tangy tomato sauce and liberal application of cheese, whether it’s straight mozzarella, or a blend of cheese.

286 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:57:07am

Morning cuteness.

287 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:05:13am

Now this is just right.

288 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:08:12am

re: #285 lawhawk

Speaking of “New York style” pizza, there was a list going around showing top pizza towns nationally, and NYC didn’t win that - even though all those above it were trying to do NYC style pizza. When you’re trying to mimic NYC pizza, that should tell you right there who’s got the pizza worth imitating.

I saw that list. I was amused to find Austin in the top 10. We’ve got some good pizza places around here, but really? It was a surprise.

289 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:11:05am

re: #278 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts respond to Miley’s performance:
A mother vows to ABUSE her daughter in order to prevent her from acting like Miley
(Apparently she thinks Miley wasn’t beaten often enough)

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Good lord.

Someone on another board pointed that Ms. Cyrus’ performance reminded him very much of Lords of Acid in their heyday, and by and large, I think he’s not entirely far off - though LOA had far less tongue action going on then Miley did.

Lords of Acids was renowned for their live act, which resembled nothing so much as a hypersexual burlesque show. All set to pulsing electronic music with hypersexualized lyrics for the most part.

290 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:14:06am

re: #289 Dr Lizardo

There is WAY TOO MUCH over analyzing and deep artistic criticism of Miley’s attention grab.

It was lame and it sucked.

It was worse than Madonna’s and Beyonce’s Super Bowl halftime performances, but maybe it was on the same level as Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction.

291 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:15:43am

re: #290 Vicious Babushka

There is WAY TOO MUCH over analyzing and deep artistic criticism of Miley’s attention grab.

It was lame and it sucked.

Truth

292 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:16:49am

re: #289 Dr Lizardo

Shit, just get GWAR and their giant flapping latex cocks spewing gelatin to put on an appearance.

Youtube Video

293 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:16:53am

re: #278 Vicious Babushka

What’s telling in all this hoo-hah over Miley’s awkward, cringe inducing performance is that everyone is focusing on her and on how horrible of a person she is, and how she’s the devil incarnate leading young girls to the slaughter, but very little is being said about Robin Thicke when he was right there.

I thought the whole performance was awkward, embarrassing, terribly produced and whoever decided it was a good idea should be fired. But that’s from an artistic POV, not a moralistic one. The way people are slut shaming her for everything while ignoring Robin Thicke and leaving him above criticism is disturbing.

294 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:18:01am

re: #293 Lidane

What’s telling in all this hoo-hah over Miley’s awkward, cringe inducing performance is that everyone is focusing on her and on how horrible of a person she is, and how she’s the devil incarnate leading young girls to the slaughter, but very little is being said about Robin Thicke when he was right there.

I thought the whole performance was awkward, embarrassing, terribly produced and whoever decided it was a good idea should be fired. But that’s from an artistic POV, not a moralistic one. The way people are slut shaming her for everything while ignoring Robin Thicke and leaving him above criticism is disturbing.

Miley obviously tempted him into coming on stage in that suit…
/// :p

295 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:19:32am

bbl

296 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:19:37am

Just in case you didn’t think you had enough reasons to hate Julian Assange:

297 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:23:40am

re: #292 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Shit, just get GWAR and their giant flapping latex cocks spewing gelatin to put on an appearance.

[Embedded content]

LOL

GWAR is awesome live; I saw them in Berlin a couple of years ago. Great show.

298 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:24:44am

re: #293 Lidane

What’s telling in all this hoo-hah over Miley’s awkward, cringe inducing performance is that everyone is focusing on her and on how horrible of a person she is, and how she’s the devil incarnate leading young girls to the slaughter, but very little is being said about Robin Thicke when he was right there.

I thought the whole performance was awkward, embarrassing, terribly produced and whoever decided it was a good idea should be fired. But that’s from an artistic POV, not a moralistic one. The way people are slut shaming her for everything while ignoring Robin Thicke and leaving him above criticism is disturbing.

I have not, on principle, viewed Robin Thicke’s music video, which I have heard features him and other fully clothed men surrounded by women who are naked except for a G-string.

I did watch a “genders flipped” version of the video that was featured at Jezebel, which featured fully clothed women surrounded by G-string-clad men, except that was just as bad because the men were prancing around in high heels and lipstick which would make them gay objects.

I don’t think Miley is a slut because she put on a slutshow, but her performance was all kinds of awful.

299 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:25:51am

re: #293 Lidane

What’s telling in all this hoo-hah over Miley’s awkward, cringe inducing performance is that everyone is focusing on her and on how horrible of a person she is, and how she’s the devil incarnate leading young girls to the slaughter, but very little is being said about Robin Thicke when he was right there.

I thought the whole performance was awkward, embarrassing, terribly produced and whoever decided it was a good idea should be fired. But that’s from an artistic POV, not a moralistic one. The way people are slut shaming her for everything while ignoring Robin Thicke and leaving him above criticism is disturbing.

Oh, and the running around slapping women of color, WTF was up with THAT?

300 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:29:11am

The Miley Cyrus/Robin Thicke performance was awful in every way except one - we’re still talking about it, and their names are still circulating as a result of the performance.

For them and their handlers, the performance did exactly what they wanted it to - get name exposure and create buzz (good/bad/awful, it doesn’t matter, since it’s all about keeping short attention span people focused for more than a millisecond).

It was a bad performance. It was tone deaf, and once again seems to indicate that female child performers think that coming of age means having to strip down to show that they’re an adult now. More than that, they’ve got to top those who have come before and attempted similar tactics (Britney, Christina, etc.). She felt that she had to strip down and titillate a much older and fully clothed man in BeetleJuice, BeetleJuice, BeetleJuice attire no less).

Thicke isn’t blameless here. He went along with the visuals and all the rest.

The same standards don’t exactly apply to boys - we don’t see them stripping down. Rather, they’re the ones surrounding themselves with scantily clad women.

I’ve seen further rants on how Miley’s act was racist, or at least tone deaf to the racist overtones (some of this is related to twerking, which isn’t much different than what strippers have been doing for decades?, but some of it also in surrounding herself with African American performers and slapping them, etc.) That latter beef does have some merit, but performers have been expropriating black culture for decades - whether it was Elvis or other early rock and rollers, or those getting into hip hop, which is what Miley now appears to be inclined to do.

301 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:31:22am

re: #291 FemNaziBitch

Truth

Thoth!

Image: thoth5sm.jpg

302 erik_t  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:31:37am

The words ‘miley’ and ‘cyrus’ appear more times in this comment section than the word ‘syria’. And this is the good corner of the internet.

Sigh.

303 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:32:38am

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304 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:34:57am

re: #302 erik_t

The words ‘miley’ and ‘cyrus’ appear more times in this comment section than the word ‘syria’. And this is the good corner of the internet.

Sigh.

Maybe Syria needs another Cyrus to come in and set things straight for them.
/

en.wikipedia.org

305 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:36:27am

Morning Lizards.

Just hanging loose and waiting for the rest of the State to go up in flames.

Western Idaho named highest fire start probability in the U.S.

BOISE — National fire managers are taking notice of Western Idaho’s seven day forecast that could include storms and lightning. They are predicting the area to have the highest fire probability in the nation over the next seven days, according to Boise National Forest spokesman David Olson.

306 andres  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:38:35am

On my terminal, I have an automatic fortune “quote of the moment”. This was today’s:

No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother.
— Margaret H. Sanger

307 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:39:01am

Last time I watched MTV, Bonnie Tyler had a hit video.

308 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:42:52am

re: #307 Decatur Deb

You should watch Death Valley.

Awesome series, cancelled, of course, after one season.

309 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:42:58am
310 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:43:59am

re: #296 Vicious Babushka

Obviously, this means that Ms. Rankin is a puppet of the NSA.

/Assangophile

311 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:45:18am

re: #308 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

You should watch Death Valley.

Awesome series, cancelled, of course, after one season.

Thought you were talking about Death Valley Days, a series we did watch.

en.wikipedia.org

312 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:52:18am

One of the STUPIDEST wingnut memes EVER, no wonder Prudence loves it.

313 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:56:04am

GG now following the wingnut tradition of “Let’s compare the 2006 Obama to the 2013 Obama!” because people should never change their minds about anything ever, ever.

314 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:57:57am

re: #285 lawhawk

God, I miss real pizza.

315 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:00:21am

re: #313 Vicious Babushka

I guess we should ignore comparing GG from 2005 to now as well.

316 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:01:35am

re: #315 lawhawk

I guess we should ignore comparing GG from 2005 to now as well.

I said some pretty lame stuff 10 years ago.

317 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:02:09am

re: #313 Vicious Babushka

I think it’s perfectly fair to hold Obama to that past statement. He said that unless it’s self-defense, the US president acting without congressional approval in military strikes is wrong. I happen to agree with that.

I think it’s also perfectly fair to hold Greenwald to past statements, and there’s a lot more hypocrisy there than with Obama.

318 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:03:22am

re: #283 lawhawk

Sweet jeebus. These photos put all the rest of those about the Rim Fire to shame.

There’s a furious beauty in the fires roaring through the tinder-dry forests in and around Yosemite. They just can’t end soon enough…

I’ve been to a lot of these places, including Hetch Hetchy.

Part of the problem is we’ve had no rain this year to speak of. Our rainy season in CA is supposed to be October to March …but it effectively ended in December this past year. The snowpack in the Sierras was pitiful.

319 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:04:54am

Derp.

320 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:04:59am

re: #317 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I think it’s perfectly fair to hold Obama to that past statement. He said that unless it’s self-defense, the US president acting without congressional approval in military strikes is wrong. I happen to agree with that.

I think it’s also perfectly fair to hold Greenwald to past statements, and there’s a lot more hypocrisy there than with Obama.

BRYAN HAS A BROKEN CLOCK MOMENT!

321 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:07:13am

re: #314 klys

God, I miss real pizza.

Found the “missing” cookie clicker upgrades. Requires even more cursors.
:p

322 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:09:21am

Anyone wanna help and take some of these cookies off my hands?

323 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:10:32am

re: #318 klys

Yup. I was in Yosemite in April and made a point to visit Hetch Hetchy since we couldn’t get up to Glacier Point and Tioga since those were still closed (they opened about a week after we were there). Hetch is off the beaten path for many, but I could see why conservationists wanted to prevent building the dam there - it really is a clone of the Yosemite valley in many respects. It still has a beauty of its own.

The drought conditions are still awful through most of the Western US, and the aquifers are being depleted faster than they can get replenished. The whole region needs a couple of years of above normal snowpack to begin to approach normal conditions, but I don’t see that happening.

The biggest consequence of that is the assumptions underlying the Colorado River Compact have to be rethought - and redistributing the water is no easy task. There isn’t enough to go around, and cities that sprang up in the desert may have to reconsider their expansion/growth/sprawl, and how to deal with water issues before all else.

324 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:11:10am

lol, Glenn’s getting slow; I thought he would be much quicker to join this little brigade.

325 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:11:12am

Derp derp.

326 Mattand  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:11:39am

re: #296 Vicious Babushka

Just in case you didn’t think you had enough reasons to hate Julian Assange:

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Christ, with people like the Pauls and Assange, I’m failing to see how the “libertarians” are any different from your run-of-the-mill mouthbreathing conservative.

You take away the anti-war and pro-pot stances, and you’re left with your garden-variety Fox News viewer.

327 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:12:07am

+1

328 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:13:17am

re: #319 Gus

Man, John’s going to be real embarrassed when it turns out that Snowden, GG, et al turn out to be a Russian operation. /

329 Dr. Matt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:13:28am

re: #320 Vicious Babushka

Constitutionally, Obama cannot initiate military action against Syria w/o authorization from Congress. Impeachable offense.

— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) August 27, 2013

According to the teatards everything is an “impeachable offense” when there is Democratic President. Someone needs to notify the RWNJs about the War Powers Resolution (i.e., “War Powers Act”). If they want to legally challenge that, please proceed, nut jobs.

330 erik_t  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:13:36am

re: #327 Gus

+1

It’s too bad; as recently as a month ago, I woul frequent Balloon Juice and find useful insight.

331 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:15:00am

Yes that would totally explain why Christians in the South NEVER participated in slavery or the slave trade and never justified it with Scripture.
Oh wait.

332 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:15:28am

re: #323 lawhawk

The biggest consequence of that is the assumptions underlying the Colorado River Compact have to be rethought - and redistributing the water is no easy task. There isn’t enough to go around, and cities that sprang up in the desert may have to reconsider their expansion/growth/sprawl, and how to deal with water issues before all else.

See LA and Owens Valley.

Of course, I am also one of those people who thinks that building on barrier islands is an idiotic idea and should not be subsidized by the government in the form of flood insurance. That opinion is very unpopular at home, especially post-Sandy.

333 andres  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:16:57am

re: #307 Decatur Deb

Last time I watched MTV, Bonnie Tyler had a hit video.

Heck, last time I watch MTV, at least 12 hours were dedicated to music videos.

334 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:19:05am

History break. On this day in 1883, the volcano known as Krakatoa erupted with an estimated force of 200MT. At least 36,417 deaths are attributed to both the eruption and the tsunamises it created.

335 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:21:01am

Another one.

336 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:21:10am

re: #332 klys

See LA and Owens Valley.

Of course, I am also one of those people who thinks that building on barrier islands is an idiotic idea and should not be subsidized by the government in the form of flood insurance. That opinion is very unpopular at home, especially post-Sandy.

This current drought is going to put some pressure as well on the agreement by LA to not draw as much water from the tributaries to Mono Lake. And I saw an article today on studies saying that the Ogahalla Aquifer is being seriously depleted, will be generating further local groundwater shortages soon, and might need more than a century of reduced use to even start recovering.*

*- And it was also pointed out that reduced or more efficient farm usage might be an issue in any case since draws in certain areas have higher brine content and can lead to salt buildup in the soil and accompanying reduced fertility.

337 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:21:20am

“The gang of idiots over at Little Green Footballs dog whistle the hell out of the gay angle.”

338 erik_t  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:22:06am

re: #337 Gus

“The gang of idiots over at Little Green Footballs dog whistle the hell out of the gay angle.”

That word. You keep using it. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

339 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:22:17am

re: #317 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I think it’s perfectly fair to hold Obama to that past statement. He said that unless it’s self-defense, the US president acting without congressional approval in military strikes is wrong. I happen to agree with that.

I think it’s also perfectly fair to hold Greenwald to past statements, and there’s a lot more hypocrisy there than with Obama.

Per a read this morning, he is already ‘consulting’ with congressional leaders, and it’s still early in the game.

340 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:22:42am

re: #335 Gus

Another one.

Stalkers, or butthurt moonbats from pre ‘08?

341 erik_t  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:23:12am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

If there’s anything that can get bipartisan agreement in this country, it’s blowing up a bunch of nefarious middle eastern people.

342 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:23:56am

re: #340 Vicious Babushka

Stalkers, or butthurt moonbats from pre ‘08?

Don’t know this person. He chimes in again:

There’s a little claque of morons (Charles Johnson, Bob Cesca, Soonergrunt, a tremendous idiot who calls himself “Jefferson Obama”) who obsessively attack Greenwald and who basically do “spin” for the national security state. They’re pathetic and nasty. They frequently call Greenwald a Nazi. It’s hard to take these clowns seriously.

Someone needs to show me this.

343 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:24:25am

re: #303 Vicious Babushka

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344 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:25:06am

re: #335 Gus

Another one.

While you’re researching Teh Derp, is MJay Derping about TEH EBIL APIAC urging POTUS to bomb Syria FOR ZIONISM!

345 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:27:08am

re: #337 Gus

“The gang of idiots over at Little Green Footballs dog whistle the hell out of the gay angle.”

That’s funny. The last thing I care about is the fact that Greenwald is gay.

The fact that he’s a lying, self-serving douchebag who is just as willing to sell out Snowden as Assange was Manning is more telling of his character. Oh, and the fact that Greenwald and the rest of the dudebros consider women expendable as long as their white privilege isn’t affected bugs the hell out of me too.

346 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:28:32am

re: #343 Sol Berdinowitz

But the Cyrus Virus makes you repeatedly say “Malkovich Malkovich”.

:p

347 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:29:06am

re: #345 Lidane

I haven’t seen any dogwhistles here about Greenwald being gay.

348 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:29:37am
349 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:29:43am

This morning features cutting the registers to accommodate the larger new-style registers. Which is why there is a saw going in my kitchen right now.

Hopefully it stays there for another 15 minutes or so so my husband can get a little more sleep before the doctor’s visit this morning.

350 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:30:00am
351 erik_t  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:31:04am

re: #347 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I haven’t seen any dogwhistles here about Greenwald being gay.

I haven’t seen any dogwhistles anywhere about Greenwald being gay.

It’s actually pretty awesome.

352 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:31:53am

re: #347 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I haven’t seen any dogwhistles here about Greenwald being gay.

Nor the Nazi reference. WTF that’s about I have no idea.

353 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:32:08am

I guess gambling alone is not enough to keep Trump’s casino in Atlantic City afloat.

nbcnews.com

354 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:32:37am

re: #320 Vicious Babushka

BRYAN HAS A BROKEN CLOCK MOMENT!

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Don’t think so. The War Powers Act and similar constraints have a lot of wiggle room for quick action, however you define that. For the most part, the CiC can hit first and ask permission later. The National Command Authority can start WWIII ‘on warning’, though that has not been policy.

355 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:33:05am

re: #353 Feline Fearless Leader

I guess gambling alone is not enough to keep Trump’s casino in Atlantic City afloat.

nbcnews.com

(I’m sure that the scammy “Trump University” was perfectly OK with Bryan)

356 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:33:16am
357 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:33:25am

re: #341 erik_t

If there’s anything that can get bipartisan agreement in this country, it’s blowing up a bunch of nefarious middle eastern people.

Not unless it includes de-funding Obamacare.

358 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:34:47am

re: #352 Gus

Nor the Nazi reference. WTF that’s about I have no idea.

Reading the discussion over there makes me even more grateful for the discussion here, where I am safely away from dudebros and libertarians.

359 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:35:07am
360 Wile E. Wonka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:38:32am

re: #347 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I haven’t seen any dogwhistles here about Greenwald being gay.

Heh. First of all, those dog-whistles tend to be more of a homophobe thing, don’t they? I mean, like insinuating that a random world leader is a “wimp” who isn’t “manly” enough to give The Enemy the “spanking” it deserves but “bends over backwards” for them instead?

Unless it’s the other kind of dog-whistle, like some of the more liberal dudebros who go all innuendo with how anyone who doesn’t like Greenwald is just homophobic, or anyone who doesn’t like Manning is transphobic. Moonbat version of the whole RWNJ “Oh, you think Herman Cain is kind of dumb? You must be a RAICST!” meme.

361 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:38:47am

re: #359 Vicious Babushka

Because Black Democrats are fine for house work, but not for doing heavy lifting.

There really aren’t enough words for something like this.

362 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:42:23am

re: #359 Vicious Babushka

Because if anyone knows which civil rights leaders that minority groups should pay attention to, it’s “America’s white leadership”.

This reminds me so much of the Chinese government insisting they should be the ones to choose the next Dalai Lama. WTF.

363 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:42:49am

re: #359 Vicious Babushka

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By that same writer:

Curry previously published an opinion piece for Guns and Gear that theorized the Obama administration was purchasing large amounts of ammunition to prepare for the mass killing of United States citizens.

364 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:44:17am

re: #352 Gus

Nor the Nazi reference. WTF that’s about I have no idea.

Probably because someone (Charles?) brought up the fact that Greenwald defended a White Supremacist for soliciting murder.

365 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:44:26am

re: #363 BongCrodny

By that same writer:

It would just be easier if all the crazies assembled at the far end of the playground, by the swingset.

366 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:47:21am

re: #364 Bubblehead II

Probably because someone (Charles?) brought up the fact that Greenwald defended a White Supremacist for soliciting murder.

Maybe so. I don’t think anyone ever made that connection. Because the fact that Greenwald defended a neo-Nazi is not an implication that he is one. But, people.

367 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:47:26am

re: #364 Bubblehead II

Probably because someone (Charles?) brought up the fact that Greenwald defended a White Supremacist for soliciting murder.

That and the YAF lovefests. If someone wants to Godwin his history, I’m not about to quibble.

368 Wile E. Wonka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:48:12am

re: #331 Vicious Babushka

I know it’s obvious that anything Fischer says is bound to be a fart, but I’m amused when he actually misquotes Scripture so ironically to do it.

…

Exodus 21 starts out with the law that Jews shall not take other Jews as slaves, but at most into 7 years of indenture. Then it goes on to penalties for violent crimes, some more intended for slave traders than others:

21:16 (NIV): “Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession.”

Interestingly, 21:20-21 might be one for Fischer to bone up on. “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.”

And then there’s verse 22, the ol’ “Abortion Is a Civil Tort Offense” rule.

369 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:49:51am

re: #364 Bubblehead II

He represented Matthew Hale. But representing him doesn’t mean he supports the position. He was giving Hale his due legal representation. Even scumbags deserve legal representation.

370 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:50:28am
371 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:51:02am

re: #369 lawhawk

He represented Matthew Hale.

In a Samuel Adams sort of way or a Klan lawyer sort of way? Makes a difference.

372 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:52:18am

re: #368 Wile E. Wonka

I know it’s obvious that anything Fischer says is bound to be a fart, but I’m amused when he actually misquotes Scripture so ironically to do it.

…

Exodus 21 starts out with the law that Jews shall not take other Jews as slaves, but at most into 7 years of indenture. Then it goes on to penalties for violent crimes, some more intended for slave traders than others:

21:16 (NIV): “Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession.”

Interestingly, 21:20-21 might be one for Fischer to bone up on. “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.”

And then there’s verse 22, the ol’ “Abortion Is a Civil Tort Offense” rule.

Slavery was also a punishment for theft, since Scripture does not provide for prisons.

Also, permanent slavery as a condition for not being murdered, for conquered nations.

There is a great deal in scripture that has had to be mitigated by subsequent interpretations.

373 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:52:55am

re: #370 Gus

Didn’t the last poll show 9%? What’s the diff? The chemical attacks?

374 Dr. Matt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:52:56am

re: #335 Gus

Another one.

I never knew GG was gay until very recently and I hated him loooooong before that revelation.

375 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:53:40am

re: #312 Vicious Babushka

One of the STUPIDEST wingnut memes EVER, no wonder Prudence loves it.

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See, to conservajerks, it’s all about being “hawt”, all about appearance, never mind whether you have a brain or not.

376 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:54:27am

re: #373 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Didn’t the last poll show 9%? What’s the diff? The chemical attacks?

I think so.

377 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:54:28am

re: #375 Justanotherhuman

See, to conservajerks, it’s all about being “hawt”, all about appearance, never mind whether you have a brain or not.

See: Palin, Sarah.

378 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:55:41am

re: #373 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Didn’t the last poll show 9%? What’s the diff? The chemical attacks?

As it’s described, this poll seems to emphasize ‘no US loss of life”. That would have a push effect.

379 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:56:25am

re: #378 Decatur Deb

As it’s described, this poll seems to emphasize ‘no US loss of life”. That would have a push effect.

That’s kind of fucked up, for reals.

380 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:57:48am

re: #379 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

That’s kind of fucked up, for reals.

Note the dates of polling—28 Jun to 8 Jul.

381 erik_t  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:58:46am

re: #378 Decatur Deb

As it’s described, this poll seems to emphasize ‘no US loss of life”. That would have a push effect.

That’s a pretty reasonable explanation of TLAM strikes for the common man.

382 Wile E. Wonka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:59:53am

re: #372 Vicious Babushka

Slavery was also a punishment for theft, since Scripture does not provide for prisons.

Also, permanent slavery as a condition for not being murdered, for conquered nations.

There is a great deal in scripture that has had to be mitigated by subsequent interpretations.

Oh, of course. Not to come off glib, but for the faithful I suspect Torah is probably the very definition of a “living document”.

It’s fundie-loons like Fischer who try to pretend that their interpretation of scripture is pure and immutable. And who twist themselves into knots of historical revisionism to compensate.

383 Dr. Matt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:00:09am

re: #370 Gus

New Poll Shows More Americans Support Syrian Air Strikes Than Oppose t.co via @TIMEPolitics

— Kate Wykoff (@Kitwyk) August 27, 2013

“New”? The poll was published on July 11th based on data collected between June 28 & July 8. Epic fail, Time.

384 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:00:38am

re: #380 Decatur Deb

Note the dates of polling—28 Jun to 8 Jul.

That doesn’t make sense. Looking and they point to that poll which says “stay out of Syria.”

385 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:02:53am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

In a Samuel Adams sort of way or a Klan lawyer sort of way? Makes a difference.

It’s my understanding and what I’ve read about Greenwald that he’s all about promoting the Greenwald brand. It was a high profile case, and it brought attention to his work. It had nothing to do with supporting or sympathizing with the client’s positions.

386 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:03:12am

re: #384 Gus

That doesn’t make sense. Looking and they point to that poll which says “stay out of Syria.”

Quinnipiac. Maybe it’s unskewed.

387 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:03:38am

re: #386 Decatur Deb

Quinnipiac. Maybe it’s unskewed.

I give up. //

388 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:06:58am

Netanyahu told Assad ‘Don’t fuck with Israel.’


…”We are prepared for any scenario,” Netanyahu said in the statement. “We are not part of the civil war in Syria, but if we identify any attempt to harm us we will respond, and respond forcefully.”
389 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:07:31am

re: #385 lawhawk

It’s my understanding and what I’ve read about Greenwald that he’s all about promoting the Greenwald brand. It was a high profile case, and it brought attention to his work. It had nothing to do with supporting or sympathizing with the client’s positions.

Then his reliance on the subtlety of his audience is as precious as his later advocacy.

390 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:13:49am
391 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:20:04am

Pretty sure everybody’s seen this by now:

Let Me Explain Why Miley Cyrus’ VMA Performance Was Our Top Story This Morning

392 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:24:48am
393 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:25:05am
394 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:25:31am

Greenwald once used “drama queen.” Call the Twitter police!

//

395 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:32:21am

The GOHMERT! effect:

‘He’s a member of Congress…. There must be something to it’

About a year ago, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was wrapping up an important diplomatic mission in Cairo when her motorcade was confronted with angry protesters, many of whom threw shoes and tomatoes, while using Monica Lewinsky taunts. And why were these Egyptians so upset? Because they’d heard from right-wing extremists in the U.S. that the Obama administration “harbors a secret, pro-Islamist agenda” and backs the Muslim Brotherhood.

None of the claims were true, but there was a problem — the protesters in the streets of Cairo were relying on comments made by U.S. clowns like Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.). You know she’s ridiculous and not to be taken seriously, and I know she’s ridiculous and not to be taken seriously, but all Egyptians heard was that an elected member of Congress’ majority party had made provocative claims about U.S. policy in Egypt that many found credible.

A year later, as Sahil Kapur reports this morning, the problem persists as Rep. Louie Gohmert’s (R-Texas) nonsense about the White House and the Muslim Brotherhood, which Americans know to ignore, is “complicating U.S. foreign policy in the region.”

396 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:33:02am

re: #392 NJDhockeyfan

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It’s beginning to sound lilke Somalia.

2M Syrian refugees: data.unhcr.org

397 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:35:57am

re: #396 Justanotherhuman

It’s beginning to sound lilke Somalia.

2M Syrian refugees: data.unhcr.org

WOW…almost 2 million refugees.

398 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:37:24am
399 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:38:48am

re: #396 Justanotherhuman

It’s beginning to sound lilke Somalia.

2M Syrian refugees: data.unhcr.org

Mondoweiss blames Israel.

400 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:39:30am

Speaking of GOHMERT! —

401 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:41:04am

Windows 8.1 leaks on the web ahead of its October release

theverge.com

402 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:42:38am

re: #401 Justanotherhuman

Windows 8.1 leaks on the web ahead of its October release

theverge.com

Most passive aggressive start button ever

403 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:44:30am

re: #399 Vicious Babushka

Mondoweiss blames Israel.

I don’t see any refugees in Saudi Arabia.

404 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:46:06am

re: #403 Gus

I don’t see any refugees in Saudi Arabia.

The Emirates don’t want them.

405 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:46:10am

re: #403 Gus

I don’t see any refugees in Saudi Arabia.

Most refugees in Jordan & Turkey. Lebanon can’t handle a huge influx of refugees.

406 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:47:12am

re: #401 Justanotherhuman

Windows 8.1 leaks on the web ahead of its October release

theverge.com

Oh, good. More Microsoft crap to ignore.

407 erik_t  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:47:26am

If you’d asked me, between Balloon Juice and ThinkProgress, which one would have gone completely off the fucking rails in support for Teh GG, I would have made the choice without a second thought.

Of course, I would have said TP.

408 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:48:38am
409 GlutenFreeJesus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:56:39am

re: #331 Vicious Babushka

Yes that would totally explain why Christians in the South NEVER participated in slavery or the slave trade and never justified it with Scripture.
Oh wait.

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Slaves were animals/cattle back then, ya know…

410 allegro  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:58:16am

re: #408 Vicious Babushka

I had to look up the word “twerking” yesterday. I slept much better last night having this essential piece of knowledge. I don’t know how I’ve survived so long without it.

411 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:00:16am

re: #395 Lidane

The GOHMERT! effect:

‘He’s a member of Congress…. There must be something to it’

Yea, but Obama massively complicated US foreign policy by stealing two elections!

412 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:00:52am

re: #410 allegro

I had to look up the word “twerking” yesterday. I slept much better last night having this essential piece of knowledge. I don’t know how I’ve survived so long without it.

413 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:01:22am
414 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:03:56am

re: #413 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

But. But.

415 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:05:50am
416 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:10:15am
417 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:15:06am
418 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:18:42am
419 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:20:38am

re: #418 Gus

The photo they are using for that article is not a real phone. It looks like some kind of artwork.

420 Mattand  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:22:28am

re: #397 NJDhockeyfan

WOW…almost 2 million refugees.

That’s half a million more than the population of Philadelphia, for comparison.

421 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:23:27am

re: #420 Mattand

That’s half a million more than the population of Philadelphia, for comparison.

More than twice the population of Detroit.
Wait…
Hey they could move a whole bunch of these refugees to Detroit!

422 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:24:01am

re: #418 Gus

So say the WaPo, which has how many bugs on its pages??

423 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:29:24am

re: #422 lawhawk

So say the WaPo, which has how many bugs on its pages??

16

424 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:30:01am

I see we got some spill-over from John Cole’s blog last night in the Greenwald-related posts. Dead thread heroes on a last chance power drive.

425 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:36:07am

re: #424 Charles Johnson

`Cause tramps like them, baby they were born to derp.

Heh.

426 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:36:18am

re: #424 Charles Johnson

I see we got some spill-over from John Cole’s blog last night in the Greenwald-related posts. Dead thread heroes on a last chance power drive.

Are they trying to get into New Jersey, or out?

427 brennant  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:36:26am

WND blaming the administration for the chemical weapon attacks in Syria. I am not even going to post a link. Why did I look in the first place?

428 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:36:37am

re: #424 Charles Johnson

I see we got some spill-over from John Cole’s blog last night in the Greenwald-related posts. Dead thread heroes on a last chance power drive.

Hey, do you know how to remotely wipe an iPhone?

429 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:40:58am

re: #426 Feline Fearless Leader

They’re born to derp…. so they go where the derping is good. Next stop is the Badlands….

430 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 11:09:46am

re: #428 Gus

Hey, do you know how to remotely wipe an iPhone?

iCloud: Erase Your Device Remotely


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