“I’ve been working on this since December 15”
“They had demands I could not meet”
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
just came on the Katu stream
re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth
“I’ve been working on this since December 15”
“They had demands I could not meet”
I thought he said November 5th.
“some of these people have been in town stirring issues”
re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth
“I’ve been working on this since December 15”
“They had demands I could not meet”
I thought he said November 5th. ???
“it’s time for everyone in this illegal occupation to move on.”
re: #7 Dr. Matt
I thought he said November 5th. ???
I could have misheard, but pretty sure he said December 15
“this can’t happen in Harney County”
much applause.
Breathtaking bullshit==>
@viciousbabushka @ausador @R_of_R @goddamnedfrank @jjmacnab from someone who was https://t.co/ksvhzzAtpp
— ink_betty (@shary_monroe) January 27, 2016
re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth
I could have misheard, but pretty sure he said December 15
I just rolled back the PVR and he did say Nov 5th.
“You weren’t live-streaming that were you?” BAHAHAHAHA #ActualQuotesFromBundyMilitiaLiveStream
— Zeddonymous (@ZeddRebel) January 27, 2016
what is now an absolute side note - the citizens/common law grand jury is NOT proceeding - key member left refuge after Bundy arrest.
— John Sepulvado (@JohnLGC) January 27, 2016
re: #5 WhatEVs
The Sheriff was SO nervous he could have said November.
re: #20 nkdee
The Sheriff was SO nervous he could have said November.
He appeared extremely distressed.
re: #20 nkdee
The Sheriff was SO nervous he could have said November.
Sheriff Ward: I’ve been working on a peaceful resolution since Nov. 5. These men entered my office with ultimatums I couldn’t meet.
— Harney Cty. Sheriff (@HarneyCoSheriff) January 27, 2016
re: #11 The Vicious Babushka
So all the others were arrested but Victoria was let go?
I don’t know about you guys. But if I ever had legal issues with someone, even the federal government, I’d obtain a lawyer instead of staging an armed insurrection.
re: #23 nkdee
So all the others were arrested but Victoria was let go?
Rawstory mentions an “unidentified 18-year-old woman” but does not say what happened to her.
re: #22 FormerDirtDart
Fine…I said he could have said it….so he DID say it. Do you think he was “working on it” before it happened?
re: #24 GlutenFreeJesus
I don’t know about you guys. But if I ever had legal issues with someone, even the federal government, I’d obtain a lawyer instead of staging an armed insurrection.
Lawyers are part of the conspiracy!
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re: #25 The Vicious Babushka
Rawstory mentions an “unidentified 18-year-old woman” but does not say what happened to her.
Ted Nugent’s girlfriend?
I’m really hoping that there is good video of the arrests last night (and whatever is going to happen at the refuge). Yeah, there will be a few dead-enders who refuse to believe anything contrary to what they want to believe, but most people can be convinced by clear video evidence.
As careful and restrained as LE has been so far, I am betting they are carefully documenting everything. Hope I am right.
re: #24 GlutenFreeJesus
I don’t know about you guys. But if I ever had legal issues with someone, even the federal government, I’d obtain a lawyer instead of staging an armed insurrection.
SMITH & WESSON ARE MY LAWYERS!!
what is now an absolute side note - the citizens/common law grand jury is NOT proceeding - key member left refuge after Bundy arrest.
— John Sepulvado (@JohnLGC) January 27, 2016
re: #26 nkdee
Fine…I said he could have said it….so he DID say it. Do you think he was “working on it” before it happened?
He might have been ‘working on’ aspects that dealt with the Hammonds - the forgotten subjects in this sordid episode..
re: #24 GlutenFreeJesus
I don’t know about you guys. But if I ever had legal issues with someone, even the federal government, I’d obtain a lawyer instead of staging an armed insurrection.
Quitter!
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re: #20 nkdee
I think some of the militia people were in town weeks prior to the takeover. I have heard stuff to that effect where they had been harassing federal and local/state employees over the Hammond issue.
re: #26 nkdee
Fine…I said he could have said it….so he DID say it. Do you think he was “working on it” before it happened?
I believe he was referring to the Bundy’s original demand back in Nov. that the Hammond’s not having to return to jail, not the refuge occupation
After this is over, the authorities should make sure that, aside from prisons sentences, the gang is also financially ruined.
The story that he was shot with his hands up is spreading like wildfire throughout the right wing wing media and blogs, of course.
re: #35 makeitstop
He might have been ‘working on’ aspects that dealt with the Hammonds - the forgotten subjects in this sordid episode..
Actually, Ammon Bundy and others were in Harney County weeks before the occupation.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
The story that he was shot with his hands up is spreading like wildfire throughout the right wing wing media and blogs, of course.
And they are also calling it a “routine traffic stop” instead of the felony stop that it actually was.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
I’m shocked… SHOCKED, I SAY!
Not a word about this on the Breitbart “News” front page.
Oregonlive has Victoria Sharp (the previously unidentified 18-year-old) account.
The teenager had traveled to the refuge last week with her mother and six of her siblings to sing religious and patriotic songs. Sharp said she was in the other car — separate from McConnell — because she planned to sing at the community meeting in John Day late Tuesday afternoon.
Sharp said that Finicum was driving to the meeting and that Ryan Payne was in the passenger seat. She said she was sitting in the back seat between Ryan Bundy and Shawna Cox.
Sharp didn’t immediately return a Facebook message seeking comment.
In a 12-minute audio-only video on YouTube, Sharp said that after they were stopped by police, Payne was trying to get her and Cox safely out of the car when police took their first shot.
“He put his hands out the window, he was trying to talk with them,” said Sharp, who was raised in Kansas but lists on her Facebook page that she is currently living in Montana.
“Ryan (Payne) said, ‘We have women in the car, let the women out,” she said, “He stuck his head out and they shot at him… but they missed him.”
Sharp said that they began to realize that the police “meant business” and that Finicum, who was driving, yelled that he was going to continue driving so that he could “talk to the sheriff.”
“He drove and we all got down on the floorboards and they just started firing at us, shooting at us a bunch of times,” she said, adding that Finicum reached the roadblock and his truck rammed into a snowbank.
With the car running, she said, Finicum “got out of the car and he had his hands in the air and he was like, ‘Just shoot me then, just shoot me.’”
If she was “down on the floorboards” dodging bullets then how could she see Finicum’s position?
Just saying her story is not consistent.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
The story that he was shot with his hands up is spreading like wildfire throughout the right wing wing media and blogs, of course.
Smart people learn from the others’ mistakes… These are not smart people.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
The story that he was shot with his hands up is spreading like wildfire throughout the right wing wing media and blogs, of course.
Fiore should be arrested. If this isn’t “fire in a crowded theater,” nothing is.
re: #44 Charles Johnson
Not a word about this on the Breitbart “News” front page.
Give’em a minute. They’re trying to figure out how Obama was responsible for all of this.
re: #24 GlutenFreeJesus
I don’t know about you guys. But if I ever had legal issues with someone, even the federal government, I’d obtain a lawyer instead of staging an armed insurrection.
Any rational person would.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
The story that he was shot with his hands up is spreading like wildfire throughout the right wing wing media and blogs, of course.
Of course. They hate actual information, but love to parrot whatever a right-wing dumbass feeds them. Conservatives are literally a cult at this point.
re: #25 The Vicious Babushka
Rawstory mentions an “unidentified 18-year-old woman” but does not say what happened to her.
If that was the woman shown in the mugshot picture, those were the hardest 18 years ever. That woman looked to be 45 at least.
re: #24 GlutenFreeJesus
I don’t know about you guys. But if I ever had legal issues with someone, even the federal government, I’d obtain a lawyer instead of staging an armed insurrection.
Morals aside, there is a practical aspect: Waging war is one of the few things that actually cost more than competent legal advice.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
The story that he was shot with his hands up is spreading like wildfire throughout the right wing wing media and blogs, of course.
And their only source seems to be their best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend who heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who heard what happened.
re: #45 The Vicious Babushka
OK Oregonlive has Victoria Sharp (the previously unidentified 18-year-old) account.
If she was “down on the floorboards” dodging bullets then how could she see Finicum’s position?
Just saying her story is not consistent.
And her mom and siblings were already at the meeting in John Day, why wasn’t she with them?
re: #24 GlutenFreeJesus
I don’t know about you guys. But if I ever had legal issues with someone, even the federal government, I’d obtain a lawyer instead of staging an armed insurrection.
BETA MALE!11!
re: #48 DarknSilentNight
Give’em a minute. They’re trying to figure out how Obama was responsible for all of this.
Prediction: They’ll say that the whole thing was staged to happen the day before the GOP debate so as to draw attention from it…or something.
re: #45 The Vicious Babushka
This will now be gospel. And a new religion is born…
The footage will come out eventually, since there’s no way this won’t generate lawsuits.
re: #53 Kragar
And their only source seems to be their best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend who heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who heard what happened.
And Morgan Fairchild…Yeeeaaaaahhhhh! That’s the ticket.
re: #45 The Vicious Babushka
As soon as he tried to ram the Feds, it became a deadly force scenario. They had no idea what he might try next. If he did anything other than get down on the ground, he got what was coming to him.
Even though I beat him in the first six debates, especially the last one, Ted Cruz wants to debate me again. Can we do it in Canada?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 27, 2016
re: #59 Kragar
As soon as he tried to ram the Feds, it became a deadly force scenario. They had no idea what he might try next. If he did anything other than get down on the ground, he got what was coming to him.
I have watched enough “live chase” scenes on NBCLA to know that the cops expect nothing less than the perp flat on the ground face down spread eagle.
@jjmacnab @msbellows Considerable push back from militants who wanted a violent response to yesterday’s arrests pic.twitter.com/9qzVOEfiHa
— Gargoyle (@Patztense) January 27, 2016
The ranting commandos are now questioning if they have equipment to “take down” what they have decided is an plane circling above them
re: #62 WhatEVs
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big words from some goober posting from the safety of his own home somewhere far away.
re: #48 DarknSilentNight
Give’em a minute. They’re trying to figure out how Obama was responsible for all of this.
I’m sure that minute has already passed: somewhere out on the “Net, I’m positive someone has tweeted/posted some breathless bullshit along the lines of “Obama’s FBI murders peaceful protester” or whatever.
re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth
big words from some goober posting from the safety of his own home somewhere far away.
No True Patriots (tm).
re: #40 Charles Johnson
The story that he was shot with his hands up is spreading like wildfire throughout the right wing wing media and blogs, of course.
I told my spouse we were watching the growth of a right wing propaganda myth in real time, and that as an academic matter it was fascinating.
What is terrifying is that unstable people with guns believe it and will always believe it no matter what evidence is produced to the contrary.
re: #61 The Vicious Babushka
I have watched enough “live chase” scenes on NBCLA to know that the cops expect nothing less than the perp flat on the ground face down spread eagle.
devil’s advocate: He may have wanted to get past the snow bank first.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
The story that he was shot with his hands up is spreading like wildfire throughout the right wing wing media and blogs, of course.
And once video is released to debunk their claims, they are going to claim the video was edited, chemtrails, and NWO.
re: #68 unproven innocence
devil’s advocate: He may have wanted to get past the snow bank first.
Could have just stayed in the car. That seems like a safe alternative.
re: #69 Dr. Matt
And once video is released to debunk their claims, they are going to claim the video was edited, chemtrails, and NWO.
Exactly! It is impossible to prove anything to people who refuse to be convinced.
re: #68 unproven innocence
devil’s advocate: He may have wanted to get past the snow bank first.
The problem with all of that is that this is a heavily armed crew. If he got behind a snowbank, that could be cover to shooting LEO. It’s not like he’s some unarmed kid walking down the street. They’ve repeatedlarmy indicated that they are heavily armed and, Finicum specifically, stated he would rather die than be taken into custody.
That all makes him a very dangerous person.
re: #72 WhatEVs
Agreed, dangerous indeed.
re: #45 The Vicious Babushka
Sounds like a typical eyewitness report. Lots of supposition, bad memory, inconstant claims.
I’m remembering the book Killer by ‘Joey’. ‘Joey’ was a mob hitter.
He related one of his hits. He walked into a busy restaurant during lunch, plugged his target and walked out again.
‘Joey’ got to see the report on his hit later. Thirty people saw him. Not a single description matched him.
Eyewitnesses are not very observant for the most part.
re: #62 WhatEVs
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Yeah, expect the dumbasses to start snarling & biting at each other now. They have their little fantasy worlds, and when things don’t turn out like they do in Red Dawn or Commando, they won’t abandon their conviction that they are the star of the movie. They’ll just start blaming everyone else.
Ladies and gentlemen. The party of personal responsibility and rugged individualism. Whining and running their mouths.
Anyone who’s spent time around dimwitted drama queen white trash will recognize this behavior immediately.