2 | What, me worry? Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:08:15pm |
Ya think they're crazy suffragettes? I always think of Mary Poppins when I think of suffragettes.
3 | Fenris Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:08:47pm |
Le Voyage dans la lune was right, and this is photographic evidence! Take that, science!
6 | prairiefire Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:09:36pm |
They are sweet. That moon would be worth a fortune if it were still around.
7 | Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:10:06pm |
Looks like a Daguerreotype photo. Way early chemistry.
9 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:11:19pm |
10 | Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:12:33pm |
Charles where did you get this old photograph? Looks to be 1860 or so.
12 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:13:39pm |
I'll keep wishing...
13 | What, me worry? Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:13:48pm |
14 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:14:07pm |
My mom has a picture of my grandmother when she was around 20 years old. She was a real hottie. These girls don't even come close.
15 | FreedomMoon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:16:16pm |
When I click to "embiggen" the photo actually shrinks.
16 | Charles Johnson Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:16:59pm |
re: #10 Rightwingconspirator
Charles where did you get this old photograph? Looks to be 1860 or so.
This was in a batch of old family photos. Apparently, I'm related to one of the women in the image somehow.
17 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:17:03pm |
19 | Fozzie Bear Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:17:47pm |
When I saw this page's title, I was hoping for something else...
20 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:17:57pm |
re: #15 tacuba14
When I click to "embiggen" the photo actually shrinks.
They have pills for that now.
21 | What, me worry? Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:17:59pm |
re: #2 marjoriemoon
Ya think they're crazy suffragettes? I always think of Mary Poppins when I think of suffragettes.
This here :)
"Though we adore men individually, we agree that as a group, they're rather stupid."
Oh you go girl LOL
22 | researchok Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:18:10pm |
re: #16 Charles
This was in a batch of old family photos. Apparently, I'm related to one of the women in the image somehow.
Probably the one in the center.
23 | What, me worry? Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:18:17pm |
re: #16 Charles
This was in a batch of old family photos. Apparently, I'm related to one of the women in the image somehow.
How cool is that!
24 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:18:24pm |
25 | jaunte Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:18:48pm |
re: #19 Fozzie Bear
When I saw this page's title, I was hoping for something else...
Oh, well here then:
26 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:19:16pm |
re: #19 Fozzie Bear
When I saw this page's title, I was hoping for something else...
I was expecting something SI-FI myself.
27 | engineer cat Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:19:22pm |
since when did rodney dangerfield become the man in the moon?
28 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:20:32pm |
29 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:20:36pm |
re: #27 engineer dog
since when did rodney dangerfield become the man in the moon?
When Jackie Gleason died :(
31 | Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:22:03pm |
re: #16 Charles
Photos that old are treasures. Irreplaceable. And they have a certain power to this day. Surely you have seen the 9/11 Daguerreotype?
32 | Aceofwhat? Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:22:10pm |
alrighty. going to bed. have a good week, all.
33 | FreedomMoon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:22:36pm |
I find nothing nostalgic about looking at pictures of relatives from the olden days. Quite frankly I find it extremely depressing. The real question, did the smile not exist before 1910, or was everyone just patently unhappy with life?
35 | SpaceJesus Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:23:27pm |
maybe youre the heir to the miller high life fortune too
36 | jaunte Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:25:46pm |
re: #33 tacuba14
There's an interesting piece about that here:
WHEN did a smile become the proper face to present to a camera?
............Certainly after around 1920 the adoption of a widening smile became the proper response across middle-class US and Europe when cheap roll-film cameras came into use in ordinary families. Trumble writes that movies and Box Brownies brought "about a fundamental change in the way people saw the human face, and how they expected it to look back at them". There was a demand that people put their faces "in play", as Paul Ekman, the scientist who devised the facial action coding system (3) describes it; to be exaggeratedly present for the lens. There began to be a social requirement to simulate the approved expression: the words we are told to mime to suggest a smile to the lens - cheese, le petit oiseau va sortir - date from the early 1920s.
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]
37 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:25:55pm |
re: #33 tacuba14
I find nothing nostalgic about looking at pictures of relatives from the olden days. Quite frankly I find it extremely depressing. The real question, did the smile not exist before 1910, or was everyone just patently unhappy with life?
you know I wonder about that... I think people were just uneasy about having some newfangled thing pointed at them.
/now in a hundred years when our TSA scans are antiques do you think we will see many smiles?
38 | Digital Display Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:26:13pm |
There is a sweetness in this photo.. A looking forward with innocent eyes into the future and in the present...
A hundred years from now...What will people look back on?
A 20 GB picture with no soul?
39 | FreedomMoon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:30:26pm |
re: #36 jaunte
Well I just pulled the 1910 figure outta my ass, wasn't too far off. Interesting your post nonetheless.
40 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:30:39pm |
re: #10 Rightwingconspirator
Charles where did you get this old photograph? Looks to be 1860 or so.
Except for the 937 clues that suggest it's from the 1910s.
41 | palomino Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:31:45pm |
They look like suffragettes. Which isn't a bad thing--it took guts for those women to tell their husbands and fathers and brothers and strangers that they deserved equal treatment with men.
What does that David Bowie song "Suffragette City" have to do with women getting the vote?
42 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:31:46pm |
They are forward facing women.
It's a good background to have, Charles.
We have boxes & boxes of daguerrotypes of presumed relatives, with no information on them. Haven't yet decided what to do with them.
43 | engineer cat Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:32:26pm |
44 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:32:56pm |
45 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:33:10pm |
re: #38 HoosierHoops
There is a sweetness in this photo.. A looking forward with innocent eyes into the future and in the present...
A hundred years from now...What will people look back on?
A 20 GB picture with no soul?
/a hundred years from now we will still be looking for who killed Kennedy, Obamas birth certificate, and Col. Sanders original recipe...
46 | FreedomMoon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:33:14pm |
re: #40 negativ
Woah, easy... Most people can't identify 937 things from the 1910's. To be honest I probably come up with on thing exclusive or new to the 1910's.
47 | FreedomMoon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:34:19pm |
re: #46 tacuba14
Woah, easy... Most people can't identify 937 things from the 1910's. To be honest I probably COULDN'T come up with on thing exclusive or new to the 1910's.
48 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:34:54pm |
re: #46 tacuba14
Woah, easy... Most people can't identify 937 things from the 1910's. To be honest I probably come up with on thing exclusive or new to the 1910's.
well there were button hooks...
49 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:35:11pm |
re: #38 HoosierHoops
Are you still keeping the prayer list updated?
50 | brookly red Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:35:34pm |
51 | palomino Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:36:58pm |
re: #46 tacuba14
Woah, easy... Most people can't identify 937 things from the 1910's. To be honest I probably come up with on thing exclusive or new to the 1910's.
On first glance, only the clothing and quality of the photo seem like giveaways to the 1910's, which I assumed since they remind me of suffragettes.
What am I missing?
52 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:37:15pm |
THe 1910's. My grandmother would have been 98 on Saturday I believe. Remember seeing this one photo of her and her older sister taken I guess in the late 20's or early 30's and they look like flappers practically. It was funny because I always knew my grandmother as my sweet old nana who babysat me as a little boy. I've been watching that new show on HBO, Boardwalk Empire lately and it's so hard not to think about my dad's folks who were little kids in the early 20's and their parents.
53 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:37:17pm |
re: #10 Rightwingconspirator
Charles where did you get this old photograph? Looks to be 1860 or so.
Eh? Those hats are 1890 - 1900 range and the art style on the "moon" fits with that. 90% probably a contact print, possibly whole plate sized glass plate neg, possibly Kodak 122. Depends on how much he cropped the scan.
Charles, what are the dimensions of the print?
54 | Digital Display Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:37:26pm |
re: #49 NJDhockeyfan
Are you still keeping the prayer list updated?
It needs pruning and updates....I spent 6 weeks without a day off...So I have work to do this weekend
55 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:38:06pm |
re: #54 HoosierHoops
It needs pruning and updates...I spent 6 weeks without a day off...So I have work to do this weekend
I got one for ya if you don't mind.
56 | Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:39:42pm |
re: #40 negativ
Except for the 937 clues that suggest it's from the 1910s.
Okay do tell. Fashion expert?
57 | Digital Display Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:39:57pm |
re: #55 NJDhockeyfan
I got one for ya if you don't mind.
After almost 2 years doing the prayer list..It would be my pleasure
58 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:41:46pm |
re: #54 HoosierHoops
It needs pruning and updates...I spent 6 weeks without a day off...So I have work to do this weekend
Ouch, that's rough.
59 | Jadespring Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:41:53pm |
Earlier today I was talking about finding out a whole bunch of info about my Dad's American ancestors. Well he forgot that two of his great uncles up here were actually kinda of historical. One was an influential MP and political guy that worked closely and advised 3 or 4 PMs from MacKenzie King up until Jean Cretien.
[Link: www.encyclopediecanadienne.ca...]
The other, Frank Pickersgill was a spy in the WWII who was captured by the Germans and executed at Buchenwald. He's now considered a war hero. There's a couple of books about him that I'm going to hunt down. One of them just came out with all sort of info that has recently been unclassified. I found a fascinating article about some of what happened to him. [Link: findarticles.com...]
How my Dad happened to 'forget' this I'll never know. :)
60 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:42:16pm |
re: #54 HoosierHoops
It needs pruning and updates...I spent 6 weeks without a day off...So I have work to do this weekend
No, you have 6 weeks of relaxing to catch up on.
I forsee a day in the "man cave" for you.
61 | wee fury Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:42:27pm |
Wonderful photo. Many times a photographers mark on the photo can reveal interesting information.
62 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:42:48pm |
Ah, damnit... Kid shot himself when police barged in during the Marionette situation. Condition unknown at this time.
Wisconsin Gunman Shoots Himself After Standoff
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
63 | Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:42:53pm |
re: #53 wlewisiii
Okay I was going by the look of the print. Not the clothes.
I wuz wrong. Lol. Just guessing.
64 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:43:22pm |
re: #57 HoosierHoops
After almost 2 years doing the prayer list..It would be my pleasure
No, you are OUR pleasure.
And we are grateful.
65 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:43:45pm |
re: #57 HoosierHoops
After almost 2 years doing the prayer list..It would be my pleasure
My friend's son who just joined the IDF and has been training just found out what he will be doing. He just got sent to tank training. How cool is that? Prayers for his safety is much appreciated.
66 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:44:03pm |
re: #51 palomino
On first glance, only the clothing and quality of the photo seem like giveaways to the 1910's, which I assumed since they remind me of suffragettes.
What am I missing?
What you're missing is ALMOST EVERYTHING.
Before we get into how people posed for photos and/or what clothing they wore and why, I insist that you use the Googles and find out about the chemistry of photography in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
67 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:44:38pm |
re: #63 Rightwingconspirator
Okay I was going by the look of the print. Not the clothes.
I wuz wrong. Lol. Just guessing.
'S'ok. I shoot 4x5 LF with a preference for old glass. I like pics like that one a whole lot
69 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:47:05pm |
re: #65 NJDhockeyfan
My friend's son who just joined the IDF and has been training just found out what he will be doing. He just got sent to tank training. How cool is that? Prayers for his safety is much appreciated.
Those prayers will be sent, though he'll be quite safe in a Merkava.
70 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:47:15pm |
re: #68 negativ
Was that really necessary?
71 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:47:16pm |
One of my favorite photos in my family's history is one of my great great grandfather's blacksmith shop in Pittsburgh. He was a German immigrant and Civil War veteran. The Pittsburgh Post Gazette a few years back ran a story on my dad's cousin and some people re-enacting the famous photo. Learned that my great great grandfather was murdered and his body found in the Allegheny River and that the murder remains unsolved. It's pretty interesting since when my grandfather was close to retirement both him and my grandmother began to raise horses. My older cousins and myself had quite a few birthday parties where we and our friends got to ride the horses.
72 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:48:29pm |
re: #65 NJDhockeyfan
Very cool. He will learn a lot, and be among good fellows.
Share our blessings on him.
75 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:51:56pm |
re: #69 Dark_Falcon
Those prayers will be sent, though he'll be quite safe in a Merkava.
That's what his mom said. He's probably in the safest place right now.
Check this out, he's discovered he and his tank commander are related...they are cousins. He is getting treated like family now.
76 | Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:52:20pm |
re: #66 negativ
What you're missing is ALMOST EVERYTHING.
Before we get into how people posed for photos and/or what clothing they wore and why, I insist that you use the Googles and find out about the chemistry of photography in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Like my link? That chemistry goes back to 1850. Unless that is a later process than I thought. Looked like early stuff to me.
78 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:54:06pm |
80 | Digital Display Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:54:46pm |
I have never said this before..
all the time I have posted the prayer list Charles has never objected to it in the least...
Thanks Charles..You are a good man for allowing it on this blog
82 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:54:49pm |
re: #75 NJDhockeyfan
That's what his mom said. He's probably in the safest place right now.
Check this out, he's discovered he and his tank commander are related...they are cousins. He is getting treated like family now.
LOL!
Everyone on this earth is a cousin, if you look hard enough.
Still, great for him to have family around.
83 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:55:08pm |
85 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:57:04pm |
re: #78 negativ
Define "necessary".
Are you just trolling for reactions, or do you honestly believe what you are posting. "Necessary" is to my mind, clarifiation of something stated.
What did you mean?
86 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 8:59:35pm |
re: #78 negativ
Define "necessary".
"Needed, required to make the point" From where I sit, that post was just a cheap shot. It was also making light of a very serious situation. That makes it downding worthy in my eyes.
88 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:01:00pm |
re: #82 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
Everyone on this earth is a cousin, if you look hard enough.
Still, great for him to have family around.
No, really...they are cousins, 6th removed. (did I say that right?) His last name is the same as his commander's mom's maiden name is. They did some research and bingo, cousins!
89 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:03:37pm |
re: #87 negativ
So you're a Big Fan of someone whose sense of pride and hope lied in doing everything she possibly could to make sure her son turned out as fucked-up as possible, bragging in detail about it publicly, and then soliciting Internet Hugs when she had doubts about her behavior. Nifty!
This has nothing to do with being a "fan" of anyone or anything. It has to do with YOU... I'll repeat... YOU, taking a cheap shot at someone who has already been banned from this blog, and YOU, adding to that cheap shot by taking a further cheaper shot by referencing that "fucked-up as possible" boy.
That's FUCKED UP AS POSSIBLE. Grow up.
90 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:06:09pm |
re: #87 negativ
So you're a Big Fan of someone whose sense of pride and hope lied in doing everything she possibly could to make sure her son turned out as fucked-up as possible, bragging in detail about it publicly, and then soliciting Internet Hugs when she had doubts about her behavior. Nifty!
Sometimes it takes a while to see a troll.
I wondered earlier today.
Thank you for being assholish enough to confirm your rude, crude & troll status fro me.
GAZE.
91 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:07:03pm |
re: #87 negativ
So you're a Big Fan of someone whose sense of pride and hope lied in doing everything she possibly could to make sure her son turned out as fucked-up as possible, bragging in detail about it publicly, and then soliciting Internet Hugs when she had doubts about her behavior. Nifty!
Making nasty comments about someone's child is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.
92 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:07:36pm |
re: #87 negativ
Horseshit. Mandy was sometimes out of line and she hostile at times, but I never, ever got the impression that she was doing wrong in raising her son. Complain about things she said that merited her being banned if you want, feel free to slam her for using the word "prog", but do not ever imply she is a bad mother. Because I have never once seen anything to indicate that.
(Note: I'm not questioning the ban in any way, but I won't let someone be slandered as a bad parent when everything I know tells me the allegation is false.)
93 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:09:00pm |
TSA hate spiraling out of control at the Fever Swamp.
The subject is a YouTube video allegedly showing a young mother being harassed and humiliated because she does not want the container of mother's milk she is carrying for her baby to pass through the X-ray machine. The problem is that we only have the poster's word for what is going on, what the circumstances are, or (most importantly) what is actually being said.
95 | engineer cat Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:10:54pm |
TSA hate
at this rate santa claus is gonna come in for teh wingnut hate sooner or later
96 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:11:00pm |
re: #93 Shiplord Kirel
TSA hate spiraling out of control at the Fever Swamp.
The subject is a YouTube video allegedly showing a young mother being harassed and humiliated because she does not want the container of mother's milk she is carrying for her baby to pass through the X-ray machine. The problem is that we only have the poster's word for what is going on, what the circumstances are, or (most importantly) what is actually being said.[Video]
To say nothing of the fact that minor irradiation of milk is quite harmless. This is an "Outrageous Outrage!!1 " 'story'.
97 | blueraven Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:11:52pm |
98 | Daniel Ballard Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:12:23pm |
re: #87 negativ
As if recognizing your rude comment as such makes DF a "fan". As if we want to hear your opinion of her parenting at this time..
Or ever. Not Really.
99 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:13:25pm |
re: #94 negativ
Sorry to say, there aren't any doctors who can help you.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Your mental heath professionals, just got removed.
100 | Digital Display Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:13:43pm |
102 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:15:36pm |
re: #97 blueraven
What the hell is wrong with you? Did your mama not hug you enough?
I think his mama did the right thing, he just doesn't think it was enough.
WAH ! WAH! WAH!
103 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:17:35pm |
104 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:18:17pm |
105 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:18:50pm |
I posted this old bad joke to the end of the last thread. I am reposting it so that more people may suffer:
A man goes to Israel on vacation, and decides to 'go native' by renting a camel and riding it through the streets of Tel Aviv. Growing thirsty, he stops and goes into a store to buy a soda, without tying up the camel. When he comes out, the camel is gone.
He goes to the police station and tries to file a missing camel report. "What color is the camel?" the policeman asks. "I don't remember."
"Well, one hump or two?"
"I don't remember."
"Was it wearing a saddle? Were there decorations on it?"
"No idea."
"OK, do you know anything about this animal?"
"It was a male! I know that!"
"Sir, you can't remember the color of the camel, or if it was wearing a saddle, but you know it was a male? How?"
"Well, when I was riding it down Dizengoff Street, people kept pointing, and saying, "Look at the schmuck on that camel!"
106 | reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:19:21pm |
107 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:19:31pm |
108 | jaunte Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:20:39pm |
re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist
Camel, that's nothing, look at the schmuck on this thread!
110 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:21:36pm |
111 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:21:53pm |
re: #65 NJDhockeyfan
My friend's son who just joined the IDF and has been training just found out what he will be doing. He just got sent to tank training. How cool is that? Prayers for his safety is much appreciated.
Absolutely. Can you give us his name, English or Hebrew?
112 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:22:19pm |
re: #92 Dark_Falcon
Horseshit. Mandy was sometimes out of line and she hostile at times, but I never, ever got the impression that she was doing wrong in raising her son.
I guess you missed out on the time she proudly demanded that her kid (who, according to her, was a straight-A student) be held back a grade NOT for academic reasons, and not for social reasons, but as A MEANS OF PUNISHMENT for "infractions" she admitted she couldn't even identify. She was unambiguously mentally ill, and her son suffered for it.
114 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:22:40pm |
re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist
Absolutely. Can you give us his name, English or Hebrew?
And ask if we can ...borrow... the tank for a bit.
;)
115 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:22:54pm |
116 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:23:37pm |
117 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:23:41pm |
re: #112 negativ
I frankly don't care.
It's none of my business.
You seem obsessed.
118 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:24:33pm |
re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, I'm missing something.
I think I am just as glad.
I know exactly what he's referring to. It's none of his/her business.
119 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:25:05pm |
re: #112 negativ
You are just a rude troll.
How much longer are you going to post?
Mandy is not mentally ill.
You are.
And you seem to like abuse.
Do you prefer leather or latex?
120 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:25:24pm |
re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist
Absolutely. Can you give us his name, English or Hebrew?
His name is Gordon. He's a really great kid. I've known him since he was just a little tyke. It's a great thing he's doing.
121 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:26:29pm |
re: #120 NJDhockeyfan
His name is Gordon. He's a really great kid. I've known him since he was just a little tyke. It's a great thing he's doing.
Tell him he has internet fans!
*waving*
122 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:26:52pm |
re: #114 Varek Raith
And ask if we can ...borrow... the tank for a bit.
;)
I wouldn't mind having a Merkava. When you have a Merkava, you never need to LOOK for parking. Parking just happens.
123 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:27:03pm |
re: #114 Varek Raith
And ask if we can ...borrow... the tank for a bit.
;)
I gave him a jar of hot sauce when here was here in August. He just asked for more so he's got 2 jars on the way. I told his mom I want a picture of a jar of my hot sauce on a tank. I will post it if he does that.
124 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:27:16pm |
re: #120 NJDhockeyfan
His name is Gordon. He's a really great kid. I've known him since he was just a little tyke. It's a great thing he's doing.
It is. Thanks.
125 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:28:40pm |
re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist
I wouldn't mind having a Merkava. When you have a Merkava, you never need to LOOK for parking. Parking just happens.
I'd use mine for the Neighborhood Watch.
"TURN DOWN THAT FREAKING MUSIC!!!"
*BOOOM!*
126 | reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:30:45pm |
127 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:31:17pm |
re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist
It is. Thanks.
His mom told me his roommate is in special forces. I think she said he was in the Sayeret. I'll verify tomorrow. I'm going over to their house in the morning.
128 | reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:32:10pm |
re: #112 negativ
That was absolutely the right thing to do in that particular situation. He needed the maturity the extra year would give him. Talk to any teacher - I believe MANY hold-backs are for reasons of maturity rather than intellect. It makes a difference.
129 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:33:19pm |
re: #112 negativ
Why don't you get lost, at least until you learn to stop spewing troll bile all over the thread.
130 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:33:23pm |
re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist
I wouldn't mind having a Merkava. When you have a Merkava, you never need to LOOK for parking. Parking just happens.
131 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:35:11pm |
re: #112 negativ
The only mentally ill person I've seen on here is you.
132 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:37:07pm |
133 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:37:17pm |
134 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:38:34pm |
re: #133 negativ
Well, that's certainly an argument I hadn't considered.
Hey, if the shoe fits, wear it shithead.
135 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:38:53pm |
2nd Star of David 'uncovered' in Tehran
Iranian authorities once again 'hit' by past friendly relations with Israel : Images published Saturday by Iranian media outlets show a Star of David on the roof of the main national airline's building at the Tehran airport.
The satellite image was taken from the Google Earth service. According to the Iranian report, the Iran Air building was "built by Israeli engineers," who operated in the countries before the 1979 Islamic Revolution during the days of Shaa Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.
"It's interesting that even 32 years after the victory of the revolution, this Zionist star symbol has yet to be removed from this building," a local news website wrote.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
136 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:39:53pm |
My security guard friend reports that the level of hatred and provocation directed at him at the Big Box store has actually gotten worse in recent weeks. It was already beyond belief, with Texas Tech students as the worst offenders but by no means the only ones. The reason, believe it or not, apparently has to do with some connection the haters between him and the TSA. He works for a private company and has no connection to the feds or TSA at all, other than having to put with them if he flies somewhere. Middle-age white people and the usual college barbarians are the culprits here.
Btw, his company has dropped a contract with an off-campus apartment complex because of serious assaults (3 in two weeks) on the guards who work there. These were committed by the very residents the guards are hired to protect. The complex cannot get security now at all, all 7 companies in this area have refused their business. Five people were arrested in connection with the assaults. One suspect's father, a businessman from a Dallas suburb, was reportedly astounded to find that his litter was facing ten years in prison. He didn't know, as apparently most Texas idiots don't, that private security officers in Texas are licensed, trained, and supervised by the state police. They have the same legal protection as police officers. Attack one of them in Texas, you are in for a world of hurt.
In the meantime, the same company works in another complex with a different demographic, 96% non-white with a high percentage of section 8 recipients. No officer has been assaulted there in the year and a half they have had the contract.
137 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:40:10pm |
re: #133 negativ
Look, when you criticized her before, your posts got deleted.
Remember?
139 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:40:53pm |
re: #136 Shiplord Kirel
My security guard friend reports that the level of hatred and provocation directed at him at the Big Box store has actually gotten worse in recent weeks. It was already beyond belief, with Texas Tech students as the worst offenders but by no means the only ones. The reason, believe it or not, apparently has to do with some connection the haters between him and the TSA. He works for a private company and has no connection to the feds or TSA at all, other than having to put with them if he flies somewhere. Middle-age white people and the usual college barbarians are the culprits here.
Btw, his company has dropped a contract with an off-campus apartment complex because of serious assaults (3 in two weeks) on the guards who work there. These were committed by the very residents the guards are hired to protect. The complex cannot get security now at all, all 7 companies in this area have refused their business. Five people were arrested in connection with the assaults. One suspect's father, a businessman from a Dallas suburb, was reportedly astounded to find that his litter was facing ten years in prison. He didn't know, as apparently most Texas idiots don't, that private security officers in Texas are licensed, trained, and supervised by the state police. They have the same legal protection as police officers. Attack one of them in Texas, you are in for a world of hurt.
In the meantime, the same company works in another complex with a different demographic, 96% non-white with a high percentage of section 8 recipients. No officer has been assaulted there in the year and a half they have had the contract.
That's incredibly weird. I am so sorry. What a bunch of nutjobs.
140 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:41:41pm |
re: #134 Dark_Falcon
I assume you heard about this?
Irvin Kershner, filmmaker of 'Empire Strikes Back,' dead at 87
141 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:42:47pm |
re: #140 Varek Raith
I assume you heard about this?
Irvin Kershner, filmmaker of 'Empire Strikes Back,' dead at 87
My husband is sad. :(
143 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:44:31pm |
re: #136 Shiplord Kirel
My security guard friend reports that the level of hatred and provocation directed at him at the Big Box store has actually gotten worse in recent weeks. It was already beyond belief, with Texas Tech students as the worst offenders but by no means the only ones. The reason, believe it or not, apparently has to do with some connection the haters between him and the TSA. He works for a private company and has no connection to the feds or TSA at all, other than having to put with them if he flies somewhere. Middle-age white people and the usual college barbarians are the culprits here.
Btw, his company has dropped a contract with an off-campus apartment complex because of serious assaults (3 in two weeks) on the guards who work there. These were committed by the very residents the guards are hired to protect. The complex cannot get security now at all, all 7 companies in this area have refused their business. Five people were arrested in connection with the assaults. One suspect's father, a businessman from a Dallas suburb, was reportedly astounded to find that his litter was facing ten years in prison. He didn't know, as apparently most Texas idiots don't, that private security officers in Texas are licensed, trained, and supervised by the state police. They have the same legal protection as police officers. Attack one of them in Texas, you are in for a world of hurt.
In the meantime, the same company works in another complex with a different demographic, 96% non-white with a high percentage of section 8 recipients. No officer has been assaulted there in the year and a half they have had the contract.
Why is this happening? It seems to make no sense.
144 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:45:06pm |
re: #142 negativ
I disagreed with her on just about everything.
The way she raises her kid?
None of my freaking business.
Just drop your obsession with her and move on.
BTW, we're out of martyr cookies.
145 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:45:08pm |
re: #140 Varek Raith
I assume you heard about this?
Irvin Kershner, filmmaker of 'Empire Strikes Back,' dead at 87
That's sad. RIP
146 | wee fury Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:46:03pm |
re: #142 negativ
Your typing seems to be growing more senseless as the evening wears on.
147 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:46:20pm |
re: #142 negativ
aaand one of us got banned, while the other one didn't.
(incoming ban in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...)
So, waiting to boast to your other stalker friends?
What are you gonna boast about?
And why?
Curiosity killed the cat, but we're still playing, here...
148 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:46:48pm |
re: #144 Varek Raith
I disagreed with her on just about everything.
The way she raises her kid?
None of my freaking business.
Just drop your obsession with her and move on.BTW, we're out of martyr cookies.
No, I was able to bake 2 of them last night. They're peanut butter, too.
[shoves a martyr cookie down negativ's throat]
149 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:47:18pm |
re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist
That's incredibly weird. I am so sorry. What a bunch of nutjobs.
I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't spent an evening with him at his job a couple of months ago. I did ask some of the haters what their problem was. It is usually some asinine projection about what the guard thinks and what he intends to do. In truth, he has nothing at all to do with, say, shoplifting, but the idea that he is about to accuse them seems uppermost in the minds of many shoppers. Some of it is related to perceptions about social status and the generally negative portrayal of security guards in media. One puke sneered about "minimum wage security guards" which is off the mark by about half.
150 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:47:28pm |
re: #148 Dark_Falcon
Damn.
I like peanut butter cookies.
:)
151 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:50:16pm |
Space Shuttle Discovery's Final Launch Delayed Until At Least December 17
NASA has further delayed space shuttle Discovery's final launch on mission STS-133 until no earlier than December 17, 2010. Teams need more time to conduct further tests, collect more data, and better analyze the information to better understand why two of Discovery's external fuel tank's 21' vertical stringers cracked November 5th during offloading of cryogenic liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.
I know some in Congress want to extend the shuttle's life, but damn, she's literally falling apart.
152 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:50:30pm |
The First Photograph of a Human
Robert Krulwich, an NPR correspondent who maintains his own "sciencey" blog on the organization's website, may have helped to bring attention to the first photograph of a human being ever taken thanks to his interaction with readers.
In September, Krulwich posted a set of daguerreotypes taken by Charles Fontayne and William Porter in Cincinnati 162 years ago, on September 24, 1848. Krulwich was celebrating the work of the George Eastman House in association with the Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County. Using visible-light microscopy, the George Eastman House scanned several plates depicting the Cincinnati Waterfront so that scholars could zoom in and study the never-before-seen details.
In one photograph (shown above), scholars were able to zoom in so far that two human figures became visible. One short, the other tall, they look like they're standing on a wooden platform at the river's edge. One of Krulwich's readers -- he goes by Hokumburg -- wrote in to further discuss the two figures:
I have lightened it up a bit and messed with the contrast a little, and I think the man on the left is standing behind the wooden beam wall (wharf? dock?) with his left leg up on the wall and his left hand resting on his knee, while the man on the right is standing on top of that wall. What do you think?
Impressed by his observations, Krulwich visited Hokumburg's own blog, the Hokumburg Goombah, where he came across a photograph taken almost a decade earlier. The photo, shown below, was taken by the inventor of the Daguerreotype himself, Louis Daguerre, on the streets of Paris in 1838. Hokumburg claims, in his post, that this is the first photograph of a human being.
154 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:51:19pm |
re: #143 Dark_Falcon
Why is this happening? It seems to make no sense.
See #149. I also think there is some specific grievance at Texas Tech that fuels this, a false story that is part of the folklore or something like that. I don't have any idea what it really is, but that is one impression I have. I do know that college students in nearby Canyon and in Denton near Dallas are nothing like as hostile. (I've been researching this subject for a magazine article, though I'm not sure who would publish it.)
155 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:51:28pm |
re: #142 negativ
Were you born an asshole?
Or did you work at it your whole life?
Either way it worked out fine
'cause you're an asshole tonight.
Yes you're an A S S H O L E...
And don't you try to blame it on me.You deserve all the credit.
You're an asshole tonight.
You were an asshole yesterday.
You're an asshole tonight.
And I've got a feelin'
you'll be an asshole the rest of your life.
156 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:52:08pm |
re: #153 negativ
Your posts are mentally abusing us.
158 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:54:32pm |
re: #154 Shiplord Kirel
See #149. I also think there is some specific grievance at Texas Tech that fuels this, a false story that is part of the folklore or something like that. I don't have any idea what it really is, but that is one impression I have. I do know that college students in nearby Canyon and in Denton near Dallas are nothing like as hostile. (I've been researching this subject for a magazine article, though I'm not sure who would publish it.)
Thanks. You should try to publicize the issue. Texas Tech needs to get its students into line. If not, then places should stop serving said students till the abuse stops. Those punks need to learn not to be abusive.
159 | reine.de.tout Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:55:00pm |
re: #153 negativ
And there we have it. Child abuse and peant butter cookies.
I don't know what your problem is, but you are saying nasty shit about the son of someone who has been banned and who is no longer here.
That's what the stalkers do at their blog. And personally, I think their behavior sucks, and that they need to move on and be happy with where they are instead of focusing on making stuff up about whoever is here.
And you're acting just like they do. I'm thinking a lot of us here don't much like it.
160 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:56:17pm |
re: #159 reine.de.tout
I don't know what your problem is, but you are saying nasty shit about the son of someone who has been banned and who is no longer here.
That's what the stalkers do at their blog. And personally, I think their behavior sucks, and that they need to move on and be happy with where they are instead of focusing on making stuff up about whoever is here.
And you're acting just like they do. I'm thinking a lot of us here don't much like it.
I don't even know where the hell it CAME from. WTF.
161 | laZardo Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:57:18pm |
re: #135 NJDhockeyfan
2nd Star of David 'uncovered' in Tehran
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
First thing I thought of was its evil twin in Naval Amphibious Base Coronado. I'm sorry.
More on its history...
163 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 9:58:55pm |
re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't even know where the hell it CAME from. WTF.
Nor I. It's like negativ has been possessed by Rodan or something.
164 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:02:54pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
Nor I. It's like negativ has been possessed by Rodan or something.
Well, if I can guess at this, Rodan = Twagie = Negativ.
They're all sock puppets talking to themselves.
Hmm, how do adults put the smack down on sock puppets?
Besides recognizing them & refusing to respond...
165 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:03:19pm |
Well folks, time to toddle off to bed. Have a nice night, read my silly page and I'll read you all in the morning.
166 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:03:57pm |
re: #159 reine.de.tout
I don't know what your problem is, but you are saying nasty shit about the son of someone who has been banned and who is no longer here.
That's what the stalkers do at their blog. And personally, I think their behavior sucks, and that they need to move on and be happy with where they are instead of focusing on making stuff up about whoever is here.
And you're acting just like they do. I'm thinking a lot of us here don't much like it.
Quoted, because I can!
167 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:04:59pm |
re: #164 Floral Giraffe
Well, if I can guess at this, Rodan = Twagie = Negativ.
They're all sock puppets talking to themselves.
Hmm, how do adults put the smack down on sock puppets?
Besides recognizing them & refusing to respond...
You run the sock through the wash with extra detergent. Cheer and Tide are good at getting out dried troll bile. :D
169 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:11:25pm |
171 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:12:06pm |
re: #168 Adolf_Hitlers_Head
That nic is not cool. Please get rid of it.
173 | Varek Raith Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:13:25pm |
175 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:13:47pm |
re: #168 Adolf_Hitlers_Head
I can be any body.
What's on your mind?
176 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:13:56pm |
177 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:14:43pm |
re: #175 Floral Giraffe
I can be any body.
What's on your mind?
Too late. Charles ban-hammered that one.
179 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:16:11pm |
re: #172 Charles
Reported the messes.
A couple downstairs too.
Sorry, but we did kinda play with the Troll.
181 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:20:20pm |
Well I'm getting sleepy. Have a great evening and keep the trolls at bay.
184 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:24:35pm |
Trips off into the evening, whistling.
Later, Taters.
Mental note to ask RP for quicker, more effective Troll Hammer.
Sleep tight, all!
186 | Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:31:23pm |
re: #153 negativ
And there we have it. Child abuse and peant butter cookies.
Sigh...
Really, child abuse is not a topic to joke about, I could give you some links if I wanted to get a felony charge...
I find them, I report them, it's actually sickening what is available, there is too much of it and it is getting more brutal and explicit by the day. One link leads to another to another to another...248 I.P.s within the U.S. reported so far...my modest contribution to decency.
Anyway...I think you might want to find something else to use as a joke, I don't really think anyone finds it all that funny.
187 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Nov 29, 2010 10:33:07pm |
re: #152 NJDhockeyfan
The First Photograph of a Human
Impressed by his observations, Krulwich visited Hokumburg's own blog, the Hokumburg Goombah, where he came across a photograph taken almost a decade earlier. The photo, shown below, was taken by the inventor of the Daguerreotype himself, Louis Daguerre, on the streets of Paris in 1838. Hokumburg claims, in his post, that this is the first photograph of a human being.
Very cool. Thanks for posting this. I am very interested in old photographs for historical context. I posted some pages on early color photos a while back. Contrary to popular belief, color photography did exist in the World War 1 era but it was quite rare. Some of these are quite haunting:
Britain around 1920
Russia in color, 100 years ago.
188 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Nov 29, 2010 11:04:16pm |
189 | Super-ego Mon, Nov 29, 2010 11:16:20pm |
re: #188 Shiplord Kirel
I like this a lot better than the original:
"Close Encounters of the Redneck Kind."
[Video]
I just watched the Close Encounters original a few weeks ago, again. I loved it then, and again.
This Redneck version is awesome though!! Thanks, SK! I needed a good laugh. I will be sharing this.
190 | engineer cat Mon, Nov 29, 2010 11:23:23pm |
“There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning.”
191 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Nov 29, 2010 11:40:53pm |
this is the best LGF post ever
192 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Nov 29, 2010 11:42:36pm |
re: #186 ausador
Respectfully disagreeing, the radio satirist Phil Hendrie has a former (time served) child molestor character that he uses as a vehicle to exploit the sorts of fears that irrational people have about child abductions, it absolutely is worth satirizing
193 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 30, 2010 12:40:03am |
More fantastic old photographs:
World War One in Color
These were made by the Autochrome process, invented by the Lumiere brothers in 1907.
My favorite: Astounding Autochrome image of Nieuport 17 fighter, taken in 1917 when this 110hp biplane was state of the art.
194 | Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:17:50am |
re: #10 Rightwingconspirator
Charles where did you get this old photograph? Looks to be 1860 or so.
No, it looks early 1900's. Those styles are definitely not 1860's.
I love their shoes.
195 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:35:51am |
re: #194 Alouette
I have some great pictures of my grandmother and great-uncle when they were kids, in the 1920s, and great-uncle Gus was wearing a dress, because small boys wore dresses up until they were about five or so.
Ah, fashion.
How was work?
196 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:36:32am |
re: #195 Obdicut
I have some great pictures of my grandmother and great-uncle when they were kids, in the 1920s, and great-uncle Gus was wearing a dress, because small boys wore dresses up until they were about five or so.
Ah, fashion.
How was work?
I did not know that...
Interesting.
198 | Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:39:07am |
re: #195 Obdicut
I have some great pictures of my grandmother and great-uncle when they were kids, in the 1920s, and great-uncle Gus was wearing a dress, because small boys wore dresses up until they were about five or so.
Ah, fashion.
How was work?
Oh hectic. I'm able to access LGF from work, but no time to read it, let alone post, because I'm, uh, working.
199 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:41:25am |
re: #198 Alouette
Sent you a mail at viscous babuska.
200 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:42:20am |
re: #197 researchok
re: #196 Varek Raith
re: #196 Varek Raith
New science and economics post worth looking at:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
On November 29, 2010, Steven Chu, a Nobel Laureate in Physics, and US Secretary of Energy, spoke to the National Press Club in Washington DC,on America's declining competive edge in critical new technologies, including those that will power the industrial revolution of the new century, - Energy efficiency, and Renewable, low carbon energy production.
201 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:42:59am |
re: #195 Obdicut
And meant to click you to for the article buddy.
202 | researchok Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:43:52am |
re: #200 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #196 Varek Raith
re: #196 Varek Raith
New science and economics post worth looking at:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
On my way
203 | Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:44:02am |
204 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:45:54am |
re: #198 Alouette
Oh hectic. I'm able to access LGF from work, but no time to read it, let alone post, because I'm, uh, working.
Working is great!
:)
205 | Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:46:21am |
207 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 3:54:37am |
re: #203 Alouette
replied.
208 | researchok Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:02:22am |
re: #202 researchok
Good stuff. I did leave questions/comment
209 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:12:47am |
re: #196 Varek Raith
I did not know that...
Interesting.
[Link: histclo.com...]
I have a photo of my father in such garb when he was about 3-4 years old (that would be 1924 ish)
210 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:20:21am |
212 | wheat-dogg Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:24:05am |
We also have a huge pile of old photos of family members, or maybe just friends -- who can say? -- dating from before 1900. Some my grandpa bothered to identify, like a photo of his mother taken in 1856. Another one of a baby girl in a carriage taken in Montreal around 1890 was unmarked. Then, when I was checking Chicago census records for 1900 I discovered grandpa and his first wife were living with a son I knew about and a 5-year-old Canadian-born girl I didn't know about. I guessed the baby in the picture was her.
I put all this online at my genealogy.com page. A few weeks later, I heard from this girl's granddaughter, who had the exact same Montreal photo as I did. Turns out Gladys (the girl) was adopted by my grandpa and his first wife, perhaps because she was a friend's baby born out of wedlock. Grandpa apparently doted on her like crazy. Gladys grew up, married, had three kids, and sadly, died before she was 40.
I found some photos of her when she was a teen, too. She was a real cutie.
213 | researchok Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:26:07am |
214 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:39:29am |
re: #213 researchok
Why on earth then, is Julian Assange in the headlines??
//
Yeah seriously.
Because my Erdos number is 3, my Portman number is six!
215 | Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:40:23am |
re: #214 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah seriously.
Because my Erdos number is 3, my Portman number is six!
Natalie Portman?
216 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:41:25am |
re: #214 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah seriously.
Because my Erdos number is 3, my Portman number is six!
217 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:44:50am |
re: #214 LudwigVanQuixote
I called Jeffrey Archer an idiot on live radio once.
218 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:44:56am |
re: #214 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah seriously.
Because my Erdos number is 3, my Portman number is six!
I wonder what Kevin Bacons number is?
219 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:47:21am |
re: #215 Alouette
Natalie Portman?
Yes. She wrote a paper while at Harvard that gave her an Erdos number of three. The way the number works is that you collaborated with someone who collaborated with .... Erdos, the mathematician.
Since I don't know the full chain of her three steps to Erdos, but I do know mine, I might have a Portman number as low as 5.
The Erdos number is basically six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
[Link: www.oakland.edu...]
220 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:48:39am |
222 | researchok Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:50:13am |
223 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:51:15am |
re: #217 Obdicut
I called Jeffrey Archer an idiot on live radio once.
I called Michael Dukakis an idiot in person once
(meeting of small businessmen with him in Boston in the late 80's)
224 | researchok Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:53:02am |
re: #217 Obdicut
I called Jeffrey Archer an idiot on live radio once.
So what?
I've been called an idiot hundreds of times!
//
225 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:53:50am |
re: #218 sattv4u2
I wonder what Kevin Bacons number is?
Portman actually is one of the few with a known Erdos-Bacon number. I am not joking.
That one is tough, because you have to be peer reviewed published and in Hollywood films.
Unless you use the Feynman number.
Mine is two. Feynman's Bacon number was three, a documentary about him (Feynman) was directed by someone who was two steps to Kevin Bacon.
That makes my Bacon number 5, unless physics Dept films don't count as movies. Then my Bacon number is still undefined.
226 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:55:17am |
re: #222 researchok
If that's the case, LVQ is behind me.
I would rather be behind Natalie!
And OK, what is your Erdos number? Is yours actually lower than mine? Or are you using some psychologist number?
227 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:55:18am |
229 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:56:59am |
re: #193 Shiplord Kirel
My favorite: Astounding Autochrome image of Nieuport 17 fighter, taken in 1917 when this 110hp biplane was state of the art.
Looks like a toy.
/d'awwww~
230 | researchok Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:57:23am |
re: #225 LudwigVanQuixote
Portman actually is one of the few with a known Erdos-Bacon number. I am not joking.
That one is tough, because you have to be peer reviewed published and in Hollywood films.
Unless you use the Feynman number.
Mine is two. Feynman's Bacon number was three, a documentary about him (Feynman) was directed by someone who was two steps to Kevin Bacon.
That makes my Bacon number 5, unless physics Dept films don't count as movies. Then my Bacon number is still undefined.
Holy crap, LVQ.
More to you than meets the petri dish. Or slide. Or telescope. Or Hadron Collider. Or particle accelerator. Or toaster....
231 | researchok Tue, Nov 30, 2010 4:58:16am |
re: #226 LudwigVanQuixote
I would rather be behind Natalie!
And OK, what is your Erdos number? Is yours actually lower than mine? Or are you using some psychologist number?
Yes.
NUMBER ONE.
/
232 | Sionainn Tue, Nov 30, 2010 5:09:36am |
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
[Video]
That took me back a few years...my friends in a band used to sing this occasionally. Great times. :-)
234 | garhighway Tue, Nov 30, 2010 5:35:31am |
OT: A little blurb about TARP. The tab's down to $25B. Not a bad price for saving us from complete economic meltdown.
TARP to Cost Government $25B
By Deependra Jha
SNL Financial
November 29, 2010
The U.S. Treasury Department's TARP transactions will cost the federal government $25 billion, according to a Nov. 29 Congressional Budget Office report that estimates the bailout transactions as of Nov. 18. The estimated cost has been attributed largely to the aid given to American International Group Inc. and to the automotive industry, as well as grant programs designed to avoid foreclosures. The CBO's revised costs include grants that have not been made yet for mortgage programs. The report said it was not clear initially that the cost would be this low. It noted that the current estimate is "substantially less" than the $66 billion estimate incorporated in the agency's previous baseline budget projection in August and the $109 billion figure in the agency's March report on TARP. "Because the financial system stabilized and then improved, the amount of funds used by the TARP was well below the $700 billion initially authorized, and the outcomes of most transactions made through the TARP were favorable for the federal government," the report said…
235 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 5:57:30am |
re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote
Sent you a mail at viscous babuska.
Do you do deal with liquid physics as part of your job by any chance? ;-))
236 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 5:57:53am |
re: #235 Sergey Romanov
Do you do deal with liquid physics as part of your job by any chance? ;-))
...EWWW.
/ :B
237 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 5:59:21am |
238 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:01:03am |
Mylene Farmer is unlistenable with exception of a pair of great songs. Here's one of them:
239 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:08:21am |
240 | Sheila Broflovski Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:14:32am |
re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote
Sent you a mail at viscous babuska.
The Babushka is vicious, not thick and slimy!
241 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:16:04am |
242 | darthstar Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:29:42am |
Uber Liberal Pundit Richard Cohen praises Bush's book "Decision Points"
Reading Bush's book, seeing him in his various TV appearances, I keep thinking of Menachem Begin, the late Israeli prime minister. In 1982, Begin took Israel to war in Lebanon. It cost Israel as many as 675 dead, 4,000 wounded and its image as invincible on the battlefield. Begin took responsibility. He resigned and became a recluse, a depressed and beaten man.
I suggest no such course for Bush - only that he read the WikiLeaks documents and, for the sake of history and the instruction it offers, reassess his vaunted decisions. His jejune approach to decision-making - know yourself but not necessarily the facts - is downright repellent. On the book's dust jacket, Bush is shown in a ranching outfit. A Peter Pan outfit would have been more fitting. Like him, Bush has never grown up.
243 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:31:40am |
re: #235 Sergey Romanov
Do you do deal with liquid physics as part of your job by any chance? ;-))
As a matter of fact yes. Chaos and non-linear dynamics as it relates to turbulence is my current area of interest. It was an up and up Freudian slip.
re: #240 Alouette
The Babushka is vicious, not thick and slimy!
Actually viscosity does not equal thickness or slimness per se, but rather the tendency to dissipate motion through conversion of kinetic energy to heat (through friction of fluid elements).
244 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:31:41am |
I don't know what the fuck this is.
someone explain O:
245 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:32:53am |
re: #244 laZardo
I don't know what the fuck this is.
someone explain O:
Evil bastards playing shitty music to celebrate genocide.
246 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:34:05am |
re: #242 darthstar
Cohen ueber-Liberal? C'mon. Center-left at best.
247 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:34:19am |
re: #245 LudwigVanQuixote
And remixed into deliberately shitty house music to mock them for it.
248 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:34:25am |
re: #235 Sergey Romanov
And speaking of which, I have three new science posts.
249 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:37:17am |
250 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:39:38am |
re: #249 Sergey Romanov
I love one of the YT comments: "That old man is fucking thirsty."
251 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:39:52am |
re: #234 garhighway
OT: A little blurb about TARP. The tab's down to $25B. Not a bad price for saving us from complete economic meltdown.
TARP to Cost Government $25B
By Deependra Jha
SNL Financial
November 29, 2010
The U.S. Treasury Department's TARP transactions will cost the federal government $25 billion, according to a Nov. 29 Congressional Budget Office report that estimates the bailout transactions as of Nov. 18. The estimated cost has been attributed largely to the aid given to American International Group Inc. and to the automotive industry, as well as grant programs designed to avoid foreclosures. The CBO's revised costs include grants that have not been made yet for mortgage programs. The report said it was not clear initially that the cost would be this low. It noted that the current estimate is "substantially less" than the $66 billion estimate incorporated in the agency's previous baseline budget projection in August and the $109 billion figure in the agency's March report on TARP. "Because the financial system stabilized and then improved, the amount of funds used by the TARP was well below the $700 billion initially authorized, and the outcomes of most transactions made through the TARP were favorable for the federal government," the report said…
Despite being in the UK i have a couple of US banking contacts - and they are bleating like heck about the interest on the repayments they had to make and how unfair it was that even the banks that didn't need to take TARP and who didn't use a penny still had to pay ineterest.
The programme did good.
252 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:41:21am |
re: #251 wozzablog
Despite being in the UK i have a couple of US banking contacts - and they are bleating like heck about the interest on the repayments they had to make and how unfair it was that even the banks that didn't need to take TARP and who didn't use a penny still had to pay ineterest.
The programme did good.
Heh, remind them that the banks got us into this mess.
Only fair they fix what they frakked up.
:)
253 | darthstar Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:41:23am |
re: #246 Sergey Romanov
Cohen ueber-Liberal? C'mon. Center-left at best.
I was being ironic. Cohen is about as liberal as John McCain.
254 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:43:14am |
re: #249 Sergey Romanov
Accordion guy's face. I know people do really fucked-up shit in war, but it's like that guy's face was either sculpted or hardened into that position at birth.
255 | Wozza Matter? Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:43:15am |
re: #252 Varek Raith
Heh, remind them that the banks got us into this mess.
Only fair they fix what they frakked up.
:)
There were a few good apples - and to be fair they accepted they had to take the money so as confidence did not drop across the entire sectorin the few banks that *needed* the money, the interest payments still rock sox though.
256 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:46:07am |
re: #253 darthstar
OK, should've read the quote ;-)
257 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:46:53am |
re: #255 wozzablog
There were a few good apples - and to be fair they accepted they had to take the money so as confidence did not drop across the entire sectorin the few banks that *needed* the money, the interest payments still rock sox though.
Doesn't unspoil the bunch. Hell, I should be lucky my WaMu savings transferred over to Chase without a hitch.
258 | DaddyG Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:49:03am |
re: #242 darthstar Critics are people who emerge from the woods after a battle to shoot the wounded.
259 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:49:25am |
Good Morning, (at least in my time zone)
I guess I walked away just in time last night. First a regular poster in an awful mood and then The Nets Most Obsessed Troll. Long time since I saw that many deletions in a short time. No more wild guesses at photo dates for me...
LVQ- Four degrees is pretty scary. And it still looks like gathering the will to change is harder than the changes themselves.
260 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:51:27am |
re: #259 Rightwingconspirator
Good Morning, (at least in my time zone)
I guess I walked away just in time last night. First a regular poster in an awful mood and then The Nets Most Obsessed Troll. Long time since I saw that many deletions in a short time. No more wild guesses at photo dates for me...LVQ- Four degrees is pretty scary. And it still looks like gathering the will to change is harder than the changes themselves.
4 degrees is pushing nightmare. That is the midrange projection for 2070. Six degrees is quite realistic for 2100.
261 | Mocking Jay Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:53:05am |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
4 degrees is pushing nightmare. That is the midrange projection for 2070. Six degrees is quite realistic for 2100.
I think the only rational solution to this problem is to cut taxes for all Americans.
262 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:53:40am |
re: #261 JasonA
I think the only rational solution to this problem is to cut taxes for all Americans.
And give everyone tanks.
Or some thing.
263 | DaddyG Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:54:18am |
re: #261 JasonA
I think the only rational solution to this problem is to cut taxes for all Americans.
No. no. no. Return to the time honored tradition of throwing virgins into volcanos.
264 | Mocking Jay Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:54:54am |
re: #263 DaddyG
No. no. no. Return to the time honored tradition of throwing virgins into volcanos.
Then cut taxes?
265 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:55:23am |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
My 'thesis' for my industrial design course is a rapid-deployment flood debris cleanup boat. Not quite sure about the exact mechanics, but it is based around the well-founded premise that the world isn't going to do shit, and it'll be doing most of the labor cleaning it up after it hits the fan.
266 | DaddyG Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:55:28am |
268 | Mocking Jay Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:59:38am |
Sooner or later, those who helped make climate change worse will find a way to profit off of making things better, and then all will be right with the world...
269 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:00:40am |
Beautiful, terrible morality tale here:
[Link: www.kongregate.com...]
270 | hellointernet Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:00:52am |
Crescent moon? Clearly these women are covert mooslim turrorists.
271 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:00:56am |
re: #268 JasonA
Sooner or later, those who helped make climate change worse will find a way to profit off of making things better, and then all will be right with the world...
Probably.
Can I at least kick them in the shin?
272 | Mocking Jay Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:02:44am |
273 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:03:28am |
re: #270 hellointernet
LOL. Seriously, though, looks like a very old Procter&Gamble logo.
274 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:03:49am |
re: #265 laZardo
My 'thesis' for my industrial design course is a rapid-deployment flood debris cleanup boat. Not quite sure about the exact mechanics, but it is based around the well-founded premise that the world isn't going to do shit, and it'll be doing most of the labor cleaning it up after it hits the fan.
If we don't decide to fix things until 2050 because then it is so intolerable that it is obvious even to the chuckle heads, it will be much too late. By then under business as usual, we will have committed to a six degree increase world by 2100. Understand clearly, that is the end of civilization as we know it. Starvation, thirst and seeking shelter - coupled with fighting to get food water and shelter will be the daily norm against a backdrop of massive contagion and the slow death of the oceans.
If we cross certain oceanic tipping points it means the ultimate extinction of all vertebrates on the planet. That includes us.
275 | reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:05:26am |
hehehe.
Tweet from David Frum:
Good line for Romney in campaign against Palin: "brain power v star power" [Link: bit.ly...]
276 | Mocking Jay Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:09:52am |
re: #275 reine.de.tout
hehehe.
Tweet from David Frum:
Romney's chances look much better in the general election than in the primary to me.
277 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:12:26am |
re: #274 LudwigVanQuixote
And I do not earnestly believe that humanity will really make an effort to stop themselves from making that happen. Indeed, perhaps someone in my intended post-graduation profession should already be devising solutions for the post-six-degree world.
278 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:18:19am |
One more reason why Assange is not really the issue here:
[Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]
REYKJAVIK: A former WikiLeaks associate said on Tuesday he and a number of other ex-members are preparing to launch an alternative to the whistle-blower website, just days after its latest document dump rocked the world.
279 | reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:18:46am |
re: #276 JasonA
Romney's chances look much better in the general election than in the primary to me.
I have no clue, yet, I'm no good at reading things this far ahead of time.
But I honestly can't imagine Palin going anywhere. Locally, I don't hear people talking about her, at all. I have to believe that there are a LOT of folks who, like me, are very disappointed in what she's turned out to be.
280 | laZardo Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:21:08am |
re: #278 Sergey Romanov
The difference, according to Snorrason, was that while WikiLeaks gathers leaked documents and dumps them on its site, the new project - he would not provide a name - will be "a safe haven where people can share information anonymously."
I thought they already had 4chan for that.
/
281 | DaddyG Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:22:41am |
re: #276 JasonA
Romney's chances look much better in the general election than in the primary to me.
Shhhh... as of now we Mormons are placing missionaries in each state in order to influence voters to worship Mitt. Its part of our plot to take over the world. //
282 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:23:46am |
re: #280 laZardo
As well as Freenet, I2P, Tor...
283 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:24:26am |
re: #269 Obdicut
Beautiful, terrible morality tale here:
[Link: www.kongregate.com...]
Wow. So right and so appropriate.
284 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:25:41am |
re: #283 LudwigVanQuixote
It's kind of a Bulgakovian twist on Sodom.
285 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:27:33am |
re: #284 Obdicut
It's kind of a Bulgakovian twist on Sodom.
Indeed. It isn't even that much of a twist.
287 | Aye Pod Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:35:21am |
For UK viewers - Hitchens interviewed by Jeremy Paxman:
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
I'll post a youtube of this if it appears.
(off to watch this now)
288 | Steve Dutch Tue, Nov 30, 2010 7:41:24am |
re: #281 DaddyG
I, an non-Mormon, would infinitely rather have had Romney than McCain. I really wanted to see a debate between Huckabee and Romney. I think it would be a hoot seeing Huck try to explain why the Mormons are a "cult" and the Baptists aren't.
Of course, the Religious Right wouldn't hear of a Mormon candidate and the rest you know.
289 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:07:52am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. New York continues to be disgraced by its legislators, who once again kicked the issue of massive deficits into the future when it refused to deal with the latest deficit situation. New estimates figure that the deficit has grown by another $315 million, which is on top of the $9 billion deficit that incoming Governor Andrew Cuomo will have to deal with in short order.
The legislature claims that they didn't have sufficient time to study the issue, even though they were four months late in passing this mess of a budget and it was out of whack from the moment it was passed.
Mind you that the state passed a bloated budget four months late that was billions more than the previous budget, which itself was a vastly bloated disaster requiring tax hikes that didn't result in additional revenues as anticipated.
290 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:16:16am |
Wikileaks is down again, possibly by a DDOS attack, but much more likely is that the site is simply overwhelmed by people curious about what else is in the document dump.
291 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:22:19am |
re: #290 lawhawk
Wikileaks is down again, possibly by a DDOS attack, but much more likely is that the site is simply overwhelmed by people curious about what else is in the document dump.
From CNN
On Sunday, a computer hacker who calls himself "The Jester" claimed responsibility for the cyber attack that affected WikiLeaks.
The Jester, who describes himself as a "hacktivist for good," said he took the controversial site down "for attempting to endanger the lives of our troops, 'other assets' & foreign relations."
292 | researchok Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:24:52am |
Iran 'behind scientist killings': analysts
A BOMBING attack on two Iranian nuclear experts, killing one, may have been a government hit designed to prevent the release of secrets, analysts claim.
As Iran openly blamed Israel and the US for the attack on Monday night (AEDT) on Majid Shahriari and Fereydoon Abbasi, the connection between the victims has raised fears that a hit squad is targeting Iranian nuclear experts.
294 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:33:45am |
re: #291 Rightwingconspirator
From CNN
On Sunday, a computer hacker who calls himself "The Jester" claimed responsibility for the cyber attack that affected WikiLeaks.The Jester, who describes himself as a "hacktivist for good," said he took the controversial site down "for attempting to endanger the lives of our troops, 'other assets' & foreign relations."
Their is a good chance that the Jester is an Oathkeeper.
295 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:39:09am |
re: #281 DaddyG
Shhh... as of now we Mormons are placing missionaries in each state in order to influence voters to worship Mitt. Its part of our plot to take over the world. //
He started by posting a picture of himself doing dishes on Thanksgiving.
That's a large part of the female vote right there.
296 | Gus Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:39:10am |
re: #294 Walter L. Newton
Their is a good chance that the Jester is an Oathkeeper.
And a Republican AGW denier. From the south.
//
297 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:39:18am |
I hate that term Oathkeeper. You're not an oathkeeper when you pick and choose.
298 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 30, 2010 8:40:04am |
Major overhaul of food safety about to be enacted into law. The Senate has passed a major overhaul of food safety, and the House has signed off on the Senate version, and it will need only the President's signature for it to take effect.
The biggest U.S. food-safety overhaul in more than 70 years won Senate passage as lawmakers sought to curb food-borne illnesses that cost the nation an estimated $152 billion a year.The U.S. Food and Drug Administration would gain more power to police food companies under the bill that passed today in a 73-25 vote. The measure, backed by the food industry, public- health groups and consumer advocates, adds inspections and lets the FDA force recalls, rather than relying on companies to voluntarily remove contaminated foods from store shelves.
The bill had awaited a vote by the full Senate since winning unanimous approval a year ago by the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. It was prompted partly by recalls of cookie dough, spinach, jalapenos and salmonella-tainted peanuts that killed at least nine people and sickened more than 700 in 2008 and 2009.
“It’s shocking to think that the last comprehensive overhaul of the food-safety system was in 1938,” Senator Tom Harkin, an Iowa Democrat who heads the health committee, said in debating the legislation this month. “Food safety has too often become a hit-or-miss gamble. That is frightening, and it’s unacceptable.”
The House, which passed a food-safety bill last year, has agreed to adopt the Senate version, bypassing the need for a conference to integrate the two bills, Harkin said Nov. 18. Once both chambers have approved the measure, lawmakers will send it to President Barack Obama for his signature. The White House supports the legislation, according to a statement issued Nov. 16 by the Office of Management and Budget.
Inspection Focus
The Senate bill calls for the FDA to inspect at least 600 foreign food facilities within a year of enactment, and double its number of foreign inspections in each subsequent year for five years. The measure would require inspections every three years for U.S. manufacturing and processing plants the FDA deems to be at a high risk for contamination, and every five years for all other domestic facilities.
Reduce the amount of food-illnesses, and you reduce the costs for health care and lost wages/time/productivity.
The problem is that with food coming into the US from so many sources, trying to stop contaminated food at the source is an ever more difficult problem.