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1 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:07:39pm

Open thread? That means I should already be asleep. Night all.

2 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:33:36pm

Goodnight, all.

4 tnguitarist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:45:51pm

Hello..........Good night.

5 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:48:00pm
6 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:59:15pm
7 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:59:40pm
8 Kragar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 11:22:27pm

Been a while, but I got my first paid painting gig in a long time tonight. Guy at the store I play at liked my armies, tracked me down and made me an offer to paint his World Eaters for him.

9 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 11:44:47pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

KRAG EAT WORLD!!!

10 Kragar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 11:55:53pm

re: #9 ralphieboy

KRAG EAT WORLD!!!

World Eaters

Even before their fall to Chaos the World Eaters were known as a bloodthirsty Legion, and becoming the chosen Legion of Khorne did little to change this. In battle they disregard mortal peril to sate their bloodlust in close combat, often displaying a berserker rage that makes them invulnerable to wounds that would kill even a Space Marine.

The preferred method of assault for the World Eaters is a Drop Pod assault, followed by a charge into enemy lines. They have also been known to drop right into enemy formations. Unlike other Space Marines who use tactical attacks with squads, the World Eaters tend to throw themselves as a whole force in the middle of battle.

11 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 11:57:28pm

Laughing my head off here. The stalkers are so stupid it's almost fun to play with their tiny little brains.

12 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:04:08am
13 freetoken  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:37:17am
14 freetoken  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:39:49am
15 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:25:25am

It's a Habitat day, and we're wrapping up our second house of the year. So, hail and farewell for a few hours.

16 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:28:56am

Playing for Change--Redemption Song

17 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:58:51am

Morning, all

18 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:03:41am

re: #16 Decatur Deb

Playing for Change--Redemption Song

[Video]

Terrific

19 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:10:01am

GOOD EVENING COMRADES

TOMORROW IS GLORIOUS DAY OF LABOR IN MY COUNTRY WHERE WE TALK IN ALL CAPS SLOGANS AND MARCH IN STREETS FOR PROLETARIAT.

HOW ARE THINGS IN BOURGEOIS LAND

/i'm pro-union and all but the local Marxists are more populist than anything.

20 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:16:18am

re: #14 freetoken

[Video]

Listened to that twice.

Who is it? Which album?

The buildup to the orchestral sound is just sublime.

21 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:18:06am

re: #19 laZardo

GOOD EVENING COMRADES

TOMORROW IS GLORIOUS DAY OF LABOR IN MY COUNTRY WHERE WE TALK IN ALL CAPS SLOGANS AND MARCH IN STREETS FOR PROLETARIAT.

HOW ARE THINGS IN BOURGEOIS LAND

/i'm pro-union and all but the local Marxists are more populist than anything.

I'm a happy member of the bourgeois class.

I can have hamburgers and pizza whenever I want to.

22 theye1  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:25:56am

I feel that people are a little unfair to Al Jazeera Arabic, when covering America and Israel, they often get both sides of the issue. It's just that groups like MEMRI often don't feel the need to translate the opposition, giving the impression that the Arab Media is far more extreme then it is.

You want to learn what the Arab Media is like? Learn Arabic, and watch the shows yourselves.

23 freetoken  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:27:29am

re: #20 researchok

Joan Baez.

24 freetoken  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:29:20am

re: #19 laZardo

This one's for you:

25 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:34:01am

re: #22 theye1

MEMRI! lol MEMRI is about as trustworthy as Newsbusters

26 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:34:35am

re: #19 laZardo

pro union but self-employed, I'm don't really count ^_^

27 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:35:35am

re: #25 WindUpBird

MEMRI! lol MEMRI is about as trustworthy as Newsbusters

Why is MEMRI untrustworthy?

28 theye1  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:36:12am

re: #25 WindUpBird

That is my point, the people who do translate the Arab Media, often have an agenda.

Imagine if the rest of the world only got Glen Beck as their only example of the American Media?

29 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:37:31am

re: #22 theye1

I feel that people are a little unfair to Al Jazeera Arabic, when covering America and Israel, they often get both sides of the issue. It's just that groups like MEMRI often don't feel the need to translate the opposition, giving the impression that the Arab Media is far more extreme then it is.

You want to learn what the Arab Media is like? Learn Arabic, and watch the shows yourselves.

Yes, celebrating Samor Kuntar's birthday really highlights Al Jazeera's credibility.

30 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:37:32am

re: #19 laZardo

GOOD EVENING COMRADES

TOMORROW IS GLORIOUS DAY OF LABOR IN MY COUNTRY WHERE WE TALK IN ALL CAPS SLOGANS AND MARCH IN STREETS FOR PROLETARIAT.

HOW ARE THINGS IN BOURGEOIS LAND

/i'm pro-union and all but the local Marxists are more populist than anything.

In my country, streets march on you!!!

31 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:39:46am

re: #28 theye1

That is my point, the people who do translate the Arab Media, often have an agenda.

Imagine if the rest of the world only got Glen Beck as their only example of the American Media?

MEMRI translates thousands upon thousands of videos, audio and printed materials.

While it is inevitable mistakes will occur, the vast majority of their work is highly accurate.

32 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:43:46am

re: #28 theye1

Imagine if the rest of the world only got Glen Beck as their only example of the American Media?

There are enough Americans already for whom that is the case...

33 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:45:23am

re: #24 freetoken

Because socialism involves reciprocity...

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:54:35am

Capitalism is also about recciprocity

35 theye1  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:03:33am

re: #29 researchok

The head of Lebanese News Bureau was punished for it, and Al Jazeera director offered an apology. The whole thing related more to the Regional politics of Lebanon, then an actual policy for Al Jazeera.

re: #31 researchok

MEMRI translates thousands upon thousands of videos, audio and printed materials.

While it is inevitable mistakes will occur, the vast majority of their work is highly accurate.

I've seen translations by MEMRI of news programs where extremist rhetoric was presented, but the criticism of the rhetoric by other people was not presented at all.

I also disagree with the statement about the accuracy, they tend translate to make people more extremist then they are.

re: #32 ralphieboy

I wouldn't know, I am not American. But America also has the NYT and CNN, good examples of journalism, and people know that.

I'm just asking for the same deal with the Arab Media, instead of trolling for the most extreme things you can find. How about you portray the Arab Media accurately and in context?

36 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:08:18am

re: #32 ralphieboy

I wouldn't know, I am not American. But America also has the NYT and CNN, good examples of journalism, and people know that.

I'm just asking for the same deal with the Arab Media, instead of trolling for the most extreme things you can find. How about you portray the Arab Media accurately and in context?

Because Good Americans (TM) know that therea re no moderate Muslims.

/

37 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:10:02am

re: #35 theye1

The head of Lebanese News Bureau was punished for it, and Al Jazeera director offered an apology. The whole thing related more to the Regional politics of Lebanon, then an actual policy for Al Jazeera.

re: #31 researchok

I've seen translations by MEMRI of news programs where extremist rhetoric was presented, but the criticism of the rhetoric by other people was not presented at all.

I also disagree with the statement about the accuracy, they tend translate to make people more extremist then they are.

re: #32 ralphieboy

I wouldn't know, I am not American. But America also has the NYT and CNN, good examples of journalism, and people know that.

I'm just asking for the same deal with the Arab Media, instead of trolling for the most extreme things you can find. How about you portray the Arab Media accurately and in context?

What you have seen is irrelevant.

Can you show me a documented pattern of substantive deliberate mistranslation by a credible source?

Arab media has a long and documented history of racism, bigotry and hate, documented by many sources other than MEMRI.

Unlike media in free western socities, the vast majority of major media in the region is state controlled and sponsored.

The sane is true of educational curriculum and sadly, much religious instruction.

Arab media and so on are ion no way equivalent to western media.

Of course if you want to believe what state sponsored Libyan, Yemeni and Syrian media among others are saying, that is your business of course.

38 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:15:06am

re: #37 researchok

Unlike media in free western socities, the vast majority of major media in the region is state controlled and sponsored.


Arab media and so on are ion no way equivalent to western media.

.

This was part of the controversy beehind the Danish Muhammad caricatures. It was assumed by much of the Arab world that the government had to approve and sanction such a thing in order for it to appear in a newspaper.

39 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:18:53am

I'm not normally one to bring things down but about the page quote...


If only that were true all of the time....

But it isn't...

Sometimes writers loose the thing that is most important to them also....

(I'd like everyone to join me in metaphorically lighting a candle or doing whatever else feels right out of respect for Terry Pratchett, one of the most Prolifiic and most skilled writers out there, and sufferer of early onset Alzheimer's... (who also for the moment despite grappling with the disease still manages to have three books on the way.)

40 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:20:26am

I know lots of whiters who have managed to lose all sense of shame, propriety and proportion...

41 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:24:48am

re: #37 researchok

What you have seen is irrelevant.

Can you show me a documented pattern of substantive deliberate mistranslation by a credible source?

Arab media has a long and documented history of racism, bigotry and hate, documented by many sources other than MEMRI.

Unlike media in free western socities, the vast majority of major media in the region is state controlled and sponsored.

The sane is true of educational curriculum and sadly, much religious instruction.

Arab media and so on are ion no way equivalent to western media.

Of course if you want to believe what state sponsored Libyan, Yemeni and Syrian media among others are saying, that is your business of course.

Very true and it's worse than that. The state controls all media. Back in the old days when people read magazines (the 90's/) my sister would get her monthly subscriptions and the state would go through the magazines cutting out articles and pictures they deemed offensive before they would be delivered.

42 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:36:26am

re: #41 RogueOne

Very true and it's worse than that. The state controls all media. Back in the old days when people read magazines (the 90's/) my sister would get her monthly subscriptions and the state would go through the magazines cutting out articles and pictures they deemed offensive before they would be delivered.

Where was she living?

43 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:43:05am

Man, I finally got around to reading The Smartest Guys in the Room.

So bizarre that people still think that corporations can be trusted to behave at all responsibly with anything connected to the public interest.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Deregulation of energy. What a craptastic idea.

44 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:44:44am

re: #43 Obdicut

I saw the documentary. Blew me away.

45 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:45:33am

re: #42 iceweasel

Where was she living?

Jeddah. She married a saud while she was in college 25 years ago. She moved back to Cincy full-time to finish her masters in 2009. You didn't know my Brot-in-law was a saudi pilot? The original deal was they would live in Jeddah/Riyad for 10 years and come back to the states but the move back date was pushed back 15 years. On the plus side, free flights!

46 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:46:24am

re: #45 RogueOne

Jeddah. She married a saud while she was in college 25 years ago. She moved back to Cincy full-time to finish her masters in 2009. You didn't know my Brot-in-law was a saudi pilot? The original deal was they would live in Jeddah/Riyad for 10 years and come back to the states but the move back date was pushed back 15 years. On the plus side, free flights!

I had no idea about any of this. Once again, you have the best stories. :)

47 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:46:38am

BIAB

48 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:47:21am

re: #44 iceweasel

The things said by the traders are just insane. How on earth do you get a corporate culture where the response to wildfires destroying property and killing people is "Burn, baby, burn!" and laughter?

Pathological.

49 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:48:49am

re: #46 iceweasel

Her story is a rough one. One of the original deals was that he would have only one wife too, that one she's still pretty pissed over. That's the reason I was curious about the presidents father and his immigration paperwork the other day.

50 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:50:05am

re: #48 Obdicut

The things said by the traders are just insane. How on earth do you get a corporate culture where the response to wildfires destroying property and killing people is "Burn, baby, burn!" and laughter?

Pathological.

The Corporation.

The documentary shows the development of the contemporary business corporation, from a legal entity that originated as a government-chartered institution meant to effect specific public functions, to the rise of the modern commercial institution entitled to most of the legal rights of a person. One theme is its assessment as a "personality", as a result of an 1886 case in the United States Supreme Court in which a statement by Chief Justice Morrison R. Waite[nb 1] led to corporations as "persons" having the same rights as human beings, based on the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The film's assessment is effected via the diagnostic criteria in the DSM-IV; Robert Hare, a University of British Columbia psychology professor and a consultant to the FBI, compares the profile of the contemporary profitable business corporation to that of a clinically-diagnosed psychopath. The documentary concentrates mostly upon North American corporations, especially those of the United States.

The film is in vignettes examining and criticizing corporate business practices. It establishes parallels between the way corporations are systematically compelled to behave and the DSM-IV's symptoms of psychopathy, i.e. callous disregard for the feelings of other people, the incapacity to maintain human relationships, reckless disregard for the safety of others, deceitfulness (continual lying to deceive for profit), the incapacity to experience guilt, and the failure to conform to social norms and respect for the law.

51 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:51:20am

re: #49 RogueOne

Her story is a rough one. One of the original deals was that he would have only one wife too, that one she's still pretty pissed over.

I'd be pretty pissed over that too.

Ok, need coffee. Back soon.

52 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:54:21am

re: #50 iceweasel

One of the stupidest and baffling decisions of all time. Corporations are so obviously different from individuals in so many ways, that basing the rights of them on the rights of individuals is almost capriciously idiotic. Corporations can be immortal, or they can 'die' to their own benefit. Corporations can 'live' somewhere they don't actually have to spend any time. There's any number of ways corporations are different from individuals; there are almost no ways they are similar.

Basing their rights on those of the individual is the largest slap in the face to individual rights that I can think of. And yet so many glibertarians find nothing wrong with it, see nothing wrong with these groups having power and rights and privileges that exceed those of the individual.

I blame Rand, but not nearly as much as I blame fuckers like Ryan who actually think she made sense.

53 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:02:28am

re: #52 Obdicut

One of the stupidest and baffling decisions of all time. Corporations are so obviously different from individuals in so many ways, that basing the rights of them on the rights of individuals is almost capriciously idiotic. Corporations can be immortal, or they can 'die' to their own benefit. Corporations can 'live' somewhere they don't actually have to spend any time. There's any number of ways corporations are different from individuals; there are almost no ways they are similar.

Basing their rights on those of the individual is the largest slap in the face to individual rights that I can think of. And yet so many glibertarians find nothing wrong with it, see nothing wrong with these groups having power and rights and privileges that exceed those of the individual.

I blame Rand, but not nearly as much as I blame fuckers like Ryan who actually think she made sense.

I didn't realize the USSC was "glibterian". I know you don't like them having 1st amendment rights (we've had that argument) but are there other constitutional protections you don't believe they are qualified to hold?

54 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:04:20am

re: #53 RogueOne

I didn't realize the USSC was "glibterian". I know you don't like them having 1st amendment rights (we've had that argument) but are there other constitutional protections you don't believe they are qualified to hold?

Could you at least try to engage with what I said in my post, please?

Can you explain why it makes any sense to base the rights of corporations, which bear no resemblance to individuals, on the rights of individuals? Why does that make sense in the least?

55 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:04:42am

re: #52 Obdicut

..and to refresh my memory, I believe you hold the same view on corporate speech rights as you do with Unions. Is that right?

56 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:05:30am

re: #54 Obdicut

Could you at least try to engage with what I said in my post, please?

Can you explain why it makes any sense to base the rights of corporations, which bear no resemblance to individuals, on the rights of individuals? Why does that make sense in the least?

A corporation is a collection of individuals, like a union, they don't lose their rights just because they belong to an organization.

57 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:07:11am

re: #56 RogueOne

A corporation is a collection of individuals, like a union, they don't lose their rights just because they belong to an organization.

That is not an answer.

The individuals in a corporation don't lose any rights if you curtail the rights of the corporation. The individuals still retain all the rights they have, in every way. I'm an individual. I own a corporation. If you restrict the rights of that corporation, I, the individual, do not lose a single one of my rights.

Please try to actually answer the question:

Can you explain why it makes any sense to base the rights of corporations, which bear no resemblance to individuals, on the rights of individuals? Why does that make sense in the least?

58 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:10:45am

re: #43 Obdicut

Man, I finally got around to reading The Smartest Guys in the Room.

So bizarre that people still think that corporations can be trusted to behave at all responsibly with anything connected to the public interest.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Deregulation of energy. What a craptastic idea.

oh my god yes

59 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:11:52am

re: #56 RogueOne

A corporation is a collection of individuals, like a union, they don't lose their rights just because they belong to an organization.

we wouldn't need unions if corporations weren't evil


a collection of individuals in power, in a corporation, with no morals? is one of the most dangerous things besides, oh, I don't know, a tornado

60 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:12:02am

re: #55 RogueOne

..and to refresh my memory, I believe you hold the same view on corporate speech rights as you do with Unions. Is that right?

I think of all organizations in the same way. There is no reason to treat any group entity as though it were an individual. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be strong rights for those groups; it means that basing them off of the individual is fucking stupid.

61 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:12:46am

re: #60 Obdicut

I think of all organizations in the same way. There is no reason to treat any group entity as though it were an individual. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be strong rights for those groups; it means that basing them off of the individual is fucking stupid.

this

corporate speech having the power of the individual is honestly psycho to me

Standard oil is not a guy, it can't father a baby

62 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:13:33am

re: #57 Obdicut

That is not an answer.

The individuals in a corporation don't lose any rights if you curtail the rights of the corporation. The individuals still retain all the rights they have, in every way. I'm an individual. I own a corporation. If you restrict the rights of that corporation, I, the individual, do not lose a single one of my rights.

Please try to actually answer the question:

We've had this argument more than once, we're not going to change each others minds. I don't find the argument that individuals aren't entitled to collective rights compelling. I only jumped in because I found your blaming of Rand and "glibterians" way off base, there has never been a libertarian on the bench and no justice that I can think of has ever quoted Rand as a factor in their decision making. Corporations/unions/collectivists had speech rights long before Rand was publishing books.

63 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:13:47am

re: #58 WindUpBird

oh my god yes

Any "industry" dealing in a basic human right should be left to the state.

64 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:13:58am

Find me the guy named Mister Apple Computer, and I'd like to know his sperm count, and also when his first kiss was


(speaking of evil corporations, haha talk to an iphone dev in the bay if you want to hear an earful about Apple, WOW the things I hear)

65 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:14:06am

re: #59 WindUpBird

Unrelated: I totally saw a juggalo in Manhattan. Live as life, face-paint and all, and being a complete asshole, screaming about clown life on the street.

66 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:14:27am

re: #63 laZardo

Any "industry" dealing in a basic human right should be left to the state.

I agree

but that ain't America

America will collapse before that changes


(psst: maybe it'll collapse BECAUSe it won't change)

67 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:16:39am

re: #63 laZardo

Any "industry" dealing in a basic human right should be left to the state.

Who gets to determine what constitutes a "basic human right"?

68 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:16:45am

re: #65 Obdicut

Unrelated: I totally saw a juggalo in Manhattan. Live as life, face-paint and all, and being a complete asshole, screaming about clown life on the street.

I have seen many many Juggalos in Portland, in SE, standing outside venues for Mushroomhead (a band I quite like sometimes) they're not unusual here, they're actually quite well behaved from what i've seen, they're like goths, but more nerdy and younger. they hang out at the mall, they wear the ICP merch, they have face paint (usually not full facepaint, usually just enough to mark them as a juggalo) I usually see them in the game store or the food court

manhattan though!

I dunno, I bet portland jaggalos and manhattan juggalos ar eprobably going to be very different just because of location

69 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:16:55am

re: #67 RogueOne

Who gets to determine what constitutes a "basic human right"?

I do :)

70 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:17:02am

re: #62 RogueOne

We've had this argument more than once, we're not going to change each others minds

No, we've never actually had this argument, since you either don't understand what I'm saying or ignore it.

. I don't find the argument that individuals aren't entitled to collective rights compelling.

I have never made the argument that individuals aren't entitled to collective rights. I've asked, and you have never, ever answered, why the rights of a group, which bears no resemblance to an individual, should be based on the rights of the individuals.

I think groups should have rights, and strong ones. I am saying it is moronic to base them off of the individual.

Corporations/unions/collectivists had speech rights long before Rand was publishing books.

Oh, you misunderstand me. I'm not blaming the Supreme Court decision on Rand. I'm blaming the devotion of glibertarians to granting the rights of an individual to groups-- which is basically the exact opposite of libertarianism-- on Rand, and her devotees like jackass Ryan.

71 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:17:57am

re: #67 RogueOne

Helath care IMHo is a basic human right

but we'll never agree


I changed adult diapers for nearly 15 years, advocated for the disabled, and got almost ten people fired from my job for abuse, a couple were investigated by the county.

so i think I have a bit of authority to speak on kindness in health care and its role in society as a basic human rights

72 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:18:33am

tired and on benadryl, so I'm waiting to get sleepy, forgive me if the typos come fast n furious

73 Flounder  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:18:56am

re: #65 Obdicut
Oops,my bad I thought you misspelled gigolo, now I have some research to do...

74 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:18:57am

re: #67 RogueOne

Who gets to determine what constitutes a "basic human right"?

We do. Or rather, we did.

75 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:20:28am

basically, i've seen what happen in America BECAUSE we don't fund health care, because our country is disgusting, because our country loves death and war and fetishizes guns and the military, and devalues life and quality of life

inhuman shit happens in what passes for health care in this coutry because of what we are as Americans, and that's about all I'll say without bringing the room down

76 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:20:48am

saying it again

My country disgusts me

It has pretty much since I began in health care

77 Flounder  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:21:05am

Oh ICP
YEAH YOU KNOW ME!

78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:21:38am

re: #77 Shropshire_Slasher

hahaha come on, you gotta know some actual ICP :D

79 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:22:07am

re: #70 Obdicut

We've had this argument multiple times in relation to the Citizens United ruling. Your short-term memory is worse than mine./


I have never made the argument that individuals aren't entitled to collective rights. I've asked, and you have never, ever answered, why the rights of a group, which bears no resemblance to an individual, should be based on the rights of the individuals.

When individuals group together to form a corporation that doesn't exclude their business practices from being regulated. If I'm missing something what individual right, other than free speech, are you talking about?

80 Flounder  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:22:54am

re: #78 WindUpBird

Ive been unsuccessfully coping with the natural beauty in infidelity for a long time.

81 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:24:59am

There was once a web page that said all that needed to be said about the Juggalo culture.

Unfortunately, ED shut down. >:C

82 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:25:06am

re: #72 WindUpBird

tired and on benadryl, so I'm waiting to get sleepy, forgive me if the typos come fast n furious

wut tipoes?

83 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:25:22am

re: #81 laZardo

There was once a web page that said all that needed to be said about the Juggalo culture.

Unfortunately, ED shut down. >:C

ED shut down?

84 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:25:46am

re: #82 sattv4u2

wut tipoes?

can i has chezekake?

i kan!

85 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:25:57am

re: #79 RogueOne

We've had this argument multiple times in relation to the Citizens United ruling. Your short-term memory is worse than mine./

No. We've never actually had an argument about it, because you just ignore what I'm saying, or you don't understand it.

Like right now.

When individuals group together to form a corporation that doesn't exclude their business practices from being regulated. If I'm missing something what individual right, other than free speech, are you talking about?

Seriously? The ruling that the 14th amendment applied to corporate 'people' grants every right that can be possibly construed as applying to a corporation. So, in other words, all of the rights in the bill of rights.

Do you actually not know that?

86 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:26:03am

I literally have cheesecake, it's nice *_*

87 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:27:22am

re: #85 Obdicut

We're getting our Gibson-esque dark future

pretty soon America will be a memory, hail weyland-yutani


maybe we'll have a couple bejeweled A.I.s for our troubles

88 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:27:40am

re: #86 WindUpBird

Stupid man world.

89 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:29:17am

re: #87 WindUpBird

AI could be a solution; a lot of the problems inherent in human decision-making-- like personal interest-- could be solved with trusted AI.

We are so goddamn far from AI, though. We don't even have an agreed-upon theoretical path. It's all still phenomenology.

90 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:29:18am

re: #83 WindUpBird

ED shut down?

A couple weeks ago, to be precise.

91 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:31:44am

re: #83 WindUpBird

ED shut down?

Getting kinda personal, no?
What do you care if I have erectile dysfunction!?!?

92 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:31:59am

re: #90 laZardo

huH!

too expensive to keep running?

93 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:32:10am

re: #91 sattv4u2

Getting kinda personal, no?
What do you care if I have erectile dysfunction!?!?

hahahahahahaha

94 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:32:27am

re: #85 Obdicut

No. We've never actually had an argument about it, because you just ignore what I'm saying, or you don't understand it.

Like right now.

Seriously? The ruling that the 14th amendment applied to corporate 'people' grants every right that can be possibly construed as applying to a corporation. So, in other words, all of the rights in the bill of rights.

Do you actually not know that?

So you don't think corporations have a right to speech or to protect themselves criminally? Do you also believe corporations should have to house soldiers, keep guns off their properties, or the government should be allowed to search & seize at will? I keep asking you for a specific problem you have and the only answer I've ever received is speech rights. Corporations have always had these rights, this is nothing new.

95 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:32:46am

re: #91 sattv4u2

Ted Stryker: No one has to know about your problem! No one has to know you're impotent!

Sonny Bono: DON'T SAY THAT WORD!!!!

96 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:33:26am

re: #94 RogueOne

corporations have ad budgets, that's different from corporate personhood

speech is here


personhood is here, they're very different

97 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:33:30am

Kids are waking up, we stayed up till 3 playing a Mortal Kombat marathon. Time to run and get donuts but I'll BBL.

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:34:02am

re: #97 RogueOne

hahaha we were just playing that


god damn the lava fatalities, MESSED UP

99 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:34:18am

re: #96 WindUpBird

corporations have ad budgets, that's different from corporate personhood

speech is here

personhood is here, they're very different

product ads are regulated, political speech rights are universal.

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:34:26am

re: #97 RogueOne

also lol johnny cage trophy fatality

101 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:34:28am

re: #92 WindUpBird

Too much Anon.

102 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:35:03am

re: #99 RogueOne

product ads are regulated, political speech rights are universal.

corpo personhood has a billion arguments against it, I'm too tired to repeat em

103 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:35:25am

re: #101 laZardo

yeah well

they eat their own :P

104 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:37:01am

re: #103 WindUpBird

yeah well

they eat their own :P

More like a few take being Anon too seriously. q; Even "oldfags" would probably know that Anonymous isn't some (serious) GRAND INTERNET ARMAY.

Though the Habbo raids were funny as fuck though.

105 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:38:34am

re: #94 RogueOne

So you don't think corporations have a right to speech or to protect themselves criminally? D.

This is exactly what I mean. You're just ignoring what I write. Why?

To remind you:

I think groups should have rights, and strong ones. I am saying it is moronic to base them off of the individual.

Now can you please actually address what I'm saying and not your fatuous strawmen? Is it really that hard for you?

Again, here is the question:

Can you explain why it makes any sense to base the rights of corporations, which bear no resemblance to individuals, on the rights of individuals? Why does that make sense in the least?

If you can answer that, then we could actually have a discussion about what rights corporations and other groups actually should have. But I don't think you are ever going to produce even a semblance of a reasonable answer to that question.

106 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:38:48am

re: #104 laZardo

yeah Anon is sorta heady with their press, ah well

107 darthstar  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:48:22am

re: #106 WindUpBird

yeah Anon is sorta heady with their press, ah well

There's a diary on dKos right now about Anon going after the Chamber of Commerce...the password to their document dump is "Barrett Brown"...That guy gets around, doesn't he?

108 darthstar  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:51:42am

Heh...Jerome Corsi's 2009 WND post about what a long-form birth certificate is supposed to look like is coming back to bite him and his birther gang on the ass...it looks just like the long form one Obama released.

109 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:52:43am

re: #106 WindUpBird

Yo. I just sanitized my Tweets from last night. No more mention of the morons. Was just having a little fun there. They're actually polluting Twitter with their brain juice as we type.

110 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:57:56am

Mitt Romney thinks we're in peacetime!

Barack Obama is facing a financial emergency on a grander scale. Yet his approach has been to engage in one of the biggest peacetime spending binges in American history. With its failed stimulus package, its grandiose new social programs, its fervor for more taxes and government regulations, and its hostility toward business, the administration has made the debt problem worse, hindered economic recovery and needlessly cost American workers countless jobs.

that is some great Romney right there

111 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:59:01am

re: #109 Gus 802

Yo. I just sanitized my Tweets from last night. No more mention of the morons. Was just having a little fun there. They're actually polluting Twitter with their brain juice as we type.

I enjoy it, but then again, i already have a bit of a public profile because of my work

112 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:59:04am

If a corporation is wholly owned by a group of individuals and those individuals unanimously agree to vote as a block, then the corporation is synonymous with the individuals' rights.

If the agreement is not unanimous then the corporation is no longer acting for all individuals and some individuals may claim that their individual rights are violated.

They may lose that claim based on the principles of majority rule, but the reverse is not true. Namely, a "corporation" cannot claim that its rights have been violated by a majority vote of its members.

Therefore, a corporation's rights are not synonymous with individual rights.

Needless to say, most corporate decisions regarding political activity are not taken as a result of voting.

113 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:59:07am

re: #100 WindUpBird

also lol johnny cage trophy fatality

I hate Johnny Cage.
Ever since the very first MK.
Lol.

114 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:59:43am

re: #107 darthstar

There's a diary on dKos right now about Anon going after the Chamber of Commerce...the password to their document dump is "Barrett Brown"...That guy gets around, doesn't he?

he's very anon! he's probably their most public supporter

115 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:01:13am

re: #113 Varek Raith

I hate Johnny Cage.
Ever since the very first MK.
Lol.

He's SO FUNNY in the new one

I like Sheeva. For arms, horns, a mohawk, great fatalities, and she became QUEEN OF AUSTRALIA int he story mode to rib the aussies, they banned the game, and possession carries the sort of fine that narcotics possession does


can't gbuy pres slike that!

116 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:01:58am

BP is a corporation.
A corporation now has rights based on an individual.
BP should therefore be charged with 11 counts of murder because of their negligence in the Gulf.
Two edged sword and all that.

117 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:02:18am

re: #115 WindUpBird

He's SO FUNNY in the new one

I like Sheeva. For arms, horns, a mohawk, great fatalities, and she became QUEEN OF AUSTRALIA int he story mode to rib the aussies, they banned the game, and possession carries the sort of fine that narcotics possession does

can't gbuy pres slike that!

Lol.

118 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:12:25am

Mmmm. 45 more minutes and I can get a fresh pack of cigs. Must. Wait.

119 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:17:32am

re: #118 Gus 802

I feel for you, man. I'm so glad that I quit just for not having that sinking feeling of 'Crap, am I out? Is the store closed? Crap crap crap!'.

That's a sucky monkey.

120 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:18:57am

The only way to stop is cold turkey.

121 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:20:38am

re: #16 Decatur Deb

Playing for Change--Redemption Song

[Video]

I may be an agnostic, but music comes from God.

122 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:21:03am

re: #120 Walter L. Newton

The only way to stop is cold turkey.

What about roast beef or salami?

/

123 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:21:20am

re: #122 Gus 802

What about roast beef or salami?

/

That's bologna.

/

124 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:28:07am

re: #120 Walter L. Newton

The only way to stop is cold turkey.

Nope. I actually stopped first with a slight draw down, just so that it wasn't quite as frenzied a withdrawal. Then I used Welbutrin to cap off the cravings. Obviously relying on a social support network helps a lot, too.

125 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:29:33am

re: #124 Obdicut

Nope. I actually stopped first with a slight draw down, just so that it wasn't quite as frenzied a withdrawal. Then I used Welbutrin to cap off the cravings. Obviously relying on a social support network helps a lot, too.

Commie.
/

126 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:30:25am

re: #124 Obdicut

Nope. I actually stopped first with a slight draw down, just so that it wasn't quite as frenzied a withdrawal. Then I used Welbutrin to cap off the cravings. Obviously relying on a social support network helps a lot, too.

I should have been more specific... the only way for me to stop any compulsive and addictive habit like smoking is to stop cold turkey.

127 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:31:07am

re: #89 Obdicut

AI could be a solution; a lot of the problems inherent in human decision-making-- like personal interest-- could be solved with trusted AI.

We are so goddamn far from AI, though. We don't even have an agreed-upon theoretical path. It's all still phenomenology.

When I was a programmer I used to piss off the AI freaks among my colleagues because I'd say, "How can we fake something when we don't know what it is?" *grin*

128 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:32:18am

re: #126 Walter L. Newton

I should have been more specific... the only way for me to stop any compulsive and addictive habit like smoking is to stop cold turkey.

Yes. You should have said something correct, instead of something false.

129 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:32:43am

re: #127 Romantic Heretic

When I was a programmer I used to piss off the AI freaks among my colleagues because I'd say, "How can we fake something when we don't know what it is?" *grin*

Heh. In The Diamond Age, the society refers to it as "PI", "Pseudointelligence", because "AI" was 'too cheeky'.

130 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:35:31am

re: #105 Obdicut

This is exactly what I mean. You're just ignoring what I write. Why?

To remind you:

I think groups should have rights, and strong ones. I am saying it is moronic to base them off of the individual.

Now can you please actually address what I'm saying and not your fatuous strawmen? Is it really that hard for you?

Again, here is the question:

If you can answer that, then we could actually have a discussion about what rights corporations and other groups actually should have. But I don't think you are ever going to produce even a semblance of a reasonable answer to that question.

I've no quarrel with corporations having rights. I just wish the concept of responsibility to nation, society and the world was included.

But it's not. And corporations and the individuals in them have trouble with the idea of responsibility is foreign and often anathema to them.

131 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:36:02am

re: #129 Obdicut

Heh. In The Diamond Age, the society refers to it as "PI", "Pseudointelligence", because "AI" was 'too cheeky'.

I remember that. Wonderful book.

132 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:37:09am

BIAB

133 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:38:00am

re: #110 WindUpBird

Mitt Romney thinks we're in peacetime!

that is some great Romney right there

War is Peace. /

134 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:38:50am

re: #133 Romantic Heretic

His excuse was stupid as shit, too.

135 laZardo  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:39:17am

Headan to bed. Nighty.

136 justaminute  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:40:47am

I was just reading at various sites. People are buzzing at several sites about a big download by "Anonymous ." I guess they hit the Chamber of Commerce. This was evidently in the past couple of hours and the files are encrypted.

The password to unlock the files is "Barrett Brown". When I am busy at work I sometimes don't read our posts here thoroughly. I thought I read that name here. Am I wrong? Who is he?

137 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:46:08am

re: #136 justaminute

I was just reading at various sites. People are buzzing at several sites about a big download by "Anonymous ." I guess they hit the Chamber of Commerce. This was evidently in the past couple of hours and the files are encrypted.

The password to unlock the files is "Barrett Brown". When I am busy at work I sometimes don't read our posts here thoroughly. I thought I read that name here. Am I wrong? Who is he?

He's the official spokesman for Anon. He posted here for a while but he clashed with some of us over issues like Bradley Manning, Assange, Israel, etc. He also had some general issues with honesty so he didn't fit in very well. He posts on the LGF stalker blogs now.

138 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:46:33am

re: #136 justaminute

I was just reading at various sites. People are buzzing at several sites about a big download by "Anonymous ." I guess they hit the Chamber of Commerce. This was evidently in the past couple of hours and the files are encrypted.

The password to unlock the files is "Barrett Brown". When I am busy at work I sometimes don't read our posts here thoroughly. I thought I read that name here. Am I wrong? Who is he?

139 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:48:00am

Ode to the Brain

140 justaminute  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:49:01am

Thanks. Just curious.

141 Lidane  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:50:52am

*sigh*

Sometimes I wonder what the hell people are thinking:

Ron Paul: More Progressive Than Obama?

Really? LOL forever.

142 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:56:17am

re: #140 justaminute

Thanks. Just curious.

Here's Barrett's opinion on how HE and the Anon group break laws:

“When we break laws, we do it in the service of civil disobedience. We do so ethically. We do it against targets that have asked for it.”

They do it ethically, you see, against targets that have asked for it. As he and Anon define it all of it. A law unto themselves, they seem to be.

143 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:56:33am

re: #65 Obdicut

Unrelated: I totally saw a juggalo in Manhattan. Live as life, face-paint and all, and being a complete asshole, screaming about clown life on the street.

Ah new york. How I miss it. (and also, not)

144 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 7:59:08am

re: #143 iceweasel
Hi there Ice. How did the cinnamon buns turn out?

145 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:02:00am

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Here's Barrett's opinion on how HE and the Anon group break laws:

They do it ethically, you see, against targets that have asked for it. As he and Anon define it all of it. A law unto themselves, they seem to be.

I'm off to rob a BoA bank.
They deserve it.
///

146 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:02:37am

re: #144 PhillyPretzel

Hi there Ice. How did the cinnamon buns turn out?

Hey Philly! Saved your recipe but haven't made them yet. I locked myself out of the house for a couple of hours today and had to wait for a locksmith to let me back in. That was fun./ Jimmah's at work. Best I can do is make him some brownies later.

147 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:04:26am

re: #142 reine.de.tout

The Koskidz are really excited about the stolen Chamber of Commerce documents this morning. I seriously doubt they'll find anything interesting.

148 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:04:43am

re: #146 iceweasel
Okay. I too am apprehensive about trying new recipes.

149 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:06:47am

re: #148 PhillyPretzel

Okay. I too am apprehensive about trying new recipes.

While I waited a couple of friendly men offered to bust in my door for me if I desired. They were carrying a lot of beer and could probably do it with a headbutt. Culture shock continues.

150 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:08:06am

re: #146 iceweasel

Hey Philly! Saved your recipe but haven't made them yet. I locked myself out of the house for a couple of hours today and had to wait for a locksmith to let me back in. That was fun./ Jimmah's at work. Best I can do is make him some brownies later.

C4 + Door = Open.

151 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:11:14am
152 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:13:10am

re: #151 Varek Raith

When push comes to shove, Daniels sides with the culture war.
Chickenshit.

Per this article... it had bipartisan support...

The principle involved commands the support of an overwhelming majority of Hoosiers, as reflected in greater than 2:1 bipartisan votes in both legislative chambers.

Hmmmm...

153 justaminute  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:14:56am

re: #147 Killgore Trout

The Koskidz are really excited about the stolen Chamber of Commerce documents this morning. I seriously doubt they'll find anything interesting.

They really hate the Chamber. We are a local member of our cities Chamber. They don't really do anything but collect funds. A friend of my husbands is a home builder and he sponsors one of their meeting rooms. It just gets his name out there.

154 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:19:15am

re: #152 Walter L. Newton

Per this article... it had bipartisan support...

Hmmm...

Well, I hope they're prepared to lose Federal Medicare funds, because this law is in violation of the rule governing the distribution of funds.

155 kirkspencer  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:19:26am

re: #153 justaminute

They really hate the Chamber. We are a local member of our cities Chamber. They don't really do anything but collect funds. A friend of my husbands is a home builder and he sponsors one of their meeting rooms. It just gets his name out there.

I will point out that the US Chamber of Commerce is not connected to any local chambers of commerce.

156 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:21:25am

re: #152 Walter L. Newton

Yep. There's quite a few anti-abortion Democrats, as well. That's a large component of the Blue Dogs.

Still, even some of the Democrats supporting the bill attempted to moderate it, but their amendments were voted down.

[Link: www.indystar.com...]

In the end, two Democratic Senators wound up supporting it. Just two.

Obviously, though, we ought to focus on the 'bipartisan' nature of it.

157 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:22:05am

Alas. A cigarette! Hmmm. Tastes like poop. //

158 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:22:45am

re: #157 Gus 802

Alas. A cigarette! Hmmm. Tastes like poop. //

that is poop...
/

159 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:23:22am

re: #151 Varek Raith

When push comes to shove, Daniels sides with the culture war.
Chickenshit.

What's a douche. Might as well cross out his name.

There's a serious lack of diversity within the Republican pa...

Urm, nevermind.

160 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:24:35am

re: #159 Gus 802

What's a douche. Might as well cross out his name.

There's a serious lack of diversity within the Republican pa...

Urm, nevermind.

Here, have an awesome hat.
Image: beatrice-and-eugine.jpg

161 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:25:28am

re: #149 iceweasel

While I waited a couple of friendly men offered to bust in my door for me if I desired. They were carrying a lot of beer and could probably do it with a headbutt. Culture shock continues.

Headbutt lock smiths.

If it's not Scottish. It's cyrrrrrap.

162 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:26:23am

re: #160 Varek Raith

Here, have an awesome hat.
Image: beatrice-and-eugine.jpg

What are they? Sister? Friends? Cousins? Mother-sister and her daughter?

//

163 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:28:12am
164 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:28:25am

re: #162 Gus 802

What are they? Sister? Friends? Cousins? Mother-sister and her daughter?

//

Cousins of William & Harry - they are sisters, Andrew and Fergie's daughters.

That blue dress is one of the most awful things I've ever seen in my life.

It doesn't fit her properly. The seams on that thing are puckered and uneven.
It's a mess of a dress. I can't believe she couldn't find something in better taste to wear.

165 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:29:55am

re: #164 reine.de.tout

Cousins of William & Harry - they are sisters, Andrew and Fergie's daughters.

That blue dress is one of the most awful things I've ever seen in my life.

It doesn't fit her properly. The seams on that thing are puckered and uneven.
It's a mess of a dress. I can't believe she couldn't find something in better taste to wear.

Looks like upholstery fabric.

166 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:30:19am

Or a curtain.

167 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:30:33am

My mom did not like the Queen wearing yellow.
Had to call me just to say that.
Lol.

168 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:31:00am

re: #166 Gus 802

Or a curtain.

And a very badly made curtain, at that.

169 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:31:27am

re: #161 Gus 802

Headbutt lock smiths.

If it's not Scottish. It's cyrrrap.

Hey Gus! How goes it?

170 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:31:47am

re: #167 Varek Raith

My mom did not like the Queen wearing yellow.
Had to call me just to say that.
Lol.

I thought she looked fine. I thought she looked like she didn't feel to well.

171 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:32:55am

re: #164 reine.de.tout

Is the hem supposed to look that awful?

172 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:33:28am

re: #169 iceweasel

Hey Gus! How goes it?

Meh. It's going. Almost went back to sleep before but I decided to get up and do some chit. Walked to the store(s) and got a cup of coffee and a pack of cigs. Cold and windy out. The wind makes it cold of course. Sunny though but that's not a big deal to me -- it's usually sunny. What's up on your end?

173 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:34:01am

re: #170 prairiefire

I thought she looked fine. I thought she looked like she didn't feel to well.

Hungover was my first thought.

174 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:35:09am

Where's the toad farmer KT?

Frog lovers worldwide unite for 'Save the Frogs' day

Or is that rancher. And can you herd toads?

175 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:35:18am

re: #172 Gus 802

Meh. It's going. Almost went back to sleep before but I decided to get up and do some chit. Walked to the store(s) and got a cup of coffee and a pack of cigs. Cold and windy out. The wind makes it cold of course. Sunny though but that's not a big deal to me -- it's usually sunny. What's up on your end?

The same-- what I said above and in email. Windy as hell here, also sunny. This is 'summer', they tell me.

176 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:35:49am

re: #171 prairiefire

Is the hem supposed to look that awful?

I would think NOT. Look at it. There's a partial seam showing at one section of the hem. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And the fabric looks pulled, like whoever constructed the thing either cut it wrong, or pulled and tugged at it while they were sewing. Gah. I used to sew quite a bit - and there is NOTHING about that dress that would pass muster.

177 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:36:13am

Later gators.
Time for yard work.
:)
/I'm just going to throw stuff until those broken branches come down.

178 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:36:57am

re: #175 iceweasel

The same-- what I said above and in email. Windy as hell here, also sunny. This is 'summer', they tell me.

I need a vacation. Somewhere tropical and away from noise, news... To be able to sleep for hours on end and have a quiet relaxing time without worrying about surviving.

179 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:37:50am

re: #174 Gus 802

I herd some last night, out back.

180 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:38:24am

re: #179 jaunte

I herd some last night, out back.

Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit...

181 Winny Spencer  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:41:34am

re: #176 reine.de.tout

I would think NOT. Look at it. There's a partial seam showing at one section of the hem. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And the fabric looks pulled, like whoever constructed the thing either cut it wrong, or pulled and tugged at it while they were sewing. Gah. I used to sew quite a bit - and there is NOTHING about that dress that would pass muster.

I think it looks fine? Mind you, all things related to fashion are utterly incomprehensible to me.

182 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:41:44am

Another day of Obama derangement. Was looking at Drudge. I hardly go there anymore. Time to movie on.

183 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:43:07am

re: #182 Gus 802

Another day of Obama derangement. Was looking at Drudge. I hardly go there anymore. Time to movie on.

You'd think with the $ he has he'd have redone that site at some point. It hurts just to look at it. Like Pammy's but worse.

184 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:43:12am

Roger Ebert tweets:
about a cross-carrying hermit with severe revenge fantasies:

In 2008, he spoke to the Watauga Democrat, complaining that nobody in Boone, N.C., would speak to him during a three-day visit. He called the city “the most unholy” he’d ever been through, Las Vegas included.

“I would say that God will probably put a tornado through this town,” he was quoted about Boone. “It’s going to perish, trust me.”
[Link: www.gainesvilleregister.com...]

185 justaminute  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:43:17am

re: #176 reine.de.tout

I would think NOT. Look at it. There's a partial seam showing at one section of the hem. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And the fabric looks pulled, like whoever constructed the thing either cut it wrong, or pulled and tugged at it while they were sewing. Gah. I used to sew quite a bit - and there is NOTHING about that dress that would pass muster.

Reine, I am afraid that's the style now. I've been out shopping for clothes lately and it's getting started here. Not a fan.

186 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:43:23am

Gadzooks.

This looks like "cheap" fun.

[Link: dailydeals.latimes.com...]

17 bucks for 2 1/2 hour whale watching tour.

187 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:45:22am

re: #186 Gus 802

"Complimentary “whale check” if you don’t see a whale and/or dolphin"

188 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:45:39am

BRB Gotta clear my cache and junk. Maybe reboot.

189 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:45:46am

re: #186 Gus 802

Gadzooks.

This looks like "cheap" fun.

[Link: dailydeals.latimes.com...]

17 bucks for 2 1/2 hour whale watching tour.

I did one of those once in Nantucket. It was fun.

190 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:45:56am

re: #185 justaminute

Reine, I am afraid that's the style now. I've been out shopping for clothes lately and it's getting started here. Not a fan.

That's like my mother in law talking about the messy style of hair on starlets, etc. "I just want to take a comb to her head!"

191 Stanghazi  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:48:57am

Good morning! Yay, we're talking fashion!

192 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:49:23am

re: #174 Gus 802

Where's the toad farmer KT?

Frog lovers worldwide unite for 'Save the Frogs' day

Or is that rancher. And can you herd toads?

Frogs!

193 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:50:45am

Beautiful wooden house/five linked cottages in the mountains outside of Tokyo:InBetween House

194 justaminute  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:52:32am

re: #190 prairiefire

That's like my mother in law talking about the messy style of hair on starlets, etc. "I just want to take a comb to her head!"

I got a summer light sweater and on one side it looks like it was knit too tight and my daughter said to try it on. It was cute on but butt ugly hanging up. I bought it.

195 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:52:41am

re: #191 Stanley Sea

Tim Gunn's (love him) Hits and Misses:[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

196 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:55:04am

re: #189 iceweasel

I did one of those once in Nantucket. It was fun.

17 bucks seems cheap for this day and age.

Did a short sail trip from SF Marina to Angel Island once. Got rather wet.

197 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:57:59am

re: #195 prairiefire

Tim Gunn's (love him) Hits and Misses:[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

: ( Not enough dresses!!

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:58:24am

re: #49 RogueOne

Her story is a rough one. One of the original deals was that he would have only one wife too, that one she's still pretty pissed over. That's the reason I was curious about the presidents father and his immigration paperwork the other day.

Does that mean she's pissed because he went ahead and took another wife anyway?

199 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:00:55am

Armando Iannucci tweets:
My God, what IS she wearing? Oh, hang on, I'm watching Wife Swap USA.

200 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:03:48am

re: #68 WindUpBird

I have seen many many Juggalos in Portland, in SE, standing outside venues for Mushroomhead (a band I quite like sometimes) they're not unusual here, they're actually quite well behaved from what i've seen, they're like goths, but more nerdy and younger. they hang out at the mall, they wear the ICP merch, they have face paint (usually not full facepaint, usually just enough to mark them as a juggalo) I usually see them in the game store or the food court

manhattan though!

I dunno, I bet portland jaggalos and manhattan juggalos ar eprobably going to be very different just because of location

I'm not sure if I have never seen these people, or if I just didn't identify them as a separate subspecies.

201 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:17:15am
202 Lidane  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:26:46am

re: #191 Stanley Sea

Good morning! Yay, we're talking fashion!

Her Majesty sez:

Image: lolhats.jpg

;)

203 justaminute  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:43:37am

My son is graduating from flight school in the Navy next month and getting his wings. This weekend he had to do a cross country to finish his training. They flew from Corpus Christie, TX to Minneapolis, MN. I guess CO's take advantage of a student's requirements. They had 3 CO's they had to drop off in various cities and pick up going back. My son just called and said, Mom, it was so exciting "My wings got severely iced up and in one city I was landing in we had severe wind shear." These next 8 years are going to be really exciting if I live through it. :(

204 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:48:49am

re: #202 Lidane

Some of those hats look okay.

205 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:49:53am

By the Way, NATO told Qaddafi to go blow himself.

4:19pm
NATO has also rejected Gaddafi's latest ceasefire offer, with one NATO official telling the AFP news agency that the alliance wants to see "not words, but actions".

206 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:53:47am

I killed the thread. NOOOO!

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:54:57am

re: #206 ProLifeLiberal

I killed the thread. NOOO!

People are still in bed. Hang in there.

208 Ericus58  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:01:57am

Egypt's Muslim Brothers plan big political role
[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]

"The once outlawed Muslim Brotherhood says it will contest half of the seats in Egypt's parliamentary elections in September, revealing plans to become a major force in the country's post-revolution politics.
.....................
At a news conference Saturday, the Brotherhood named the leaders of its new Freedom and Justice party.

The party will test to what extent the Brotherhood is willing to moderate its rigid religious discourse to try to win broader political support."

Well, that kinda throws a monkey wrench in the works....
Mubarak had to go, no doubt. But the future Egypt is looking a bit dark...

209 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:10:14am

re: #203 justaminute

My son is graduating from flight school in the Navy next month and getting his wings. This weekend he had to do a cross country to finish his training. They flew from Corpus Christie, TX to Minneapolis, MN. I guess CO's take advantage of a student's requirements. They had 3 CO's they had to drop off in various cities and pick up going back. My son just called and said, Mom, it was so exciting "My wings got severely iced up and in one city I was landing in we had severe wind shear." These next 8 years are going to be really exciting if I live through it. :(

Congratulations!

210 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:12:34am

Qaddafi's forces did another incursion into Tunisia.

5:18am
Government troops outran a rebel outpost on the Tunisian border, with fighting spilling onto Tunisian territory.

211 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:17:50am

Syrian baathists resign over assad's crackdown ...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

If the bad guys in Syria and Iran keep power, it will be a disaster. We ( the good guys) need a "win" somewhere ...

212 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:20:53am

re: #211 _RememberTonyC

India is making sweeping anti-corruption reforms. That's a win for the good guys.

213 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:22:55am

re: #212 Obdicut

India is making sweeping anti-corruption reforms. That's a win for the good guys.

Good news for sure ... But India was already what I would describe as a "good guy.". We need some of the really bad actors to flip.

214 Lidane  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:25:42am

Oops:

Romney Stumbles Over 'Hang Him' Gaffe Aimed At Obama

In New Hampshire Friday, Mitt Romney stumbled over a line about pinning the nation's melancholy on President Obama that found him scrambling to back away from a quote suggesting Republicans are going to "hang" Obama with America's problems in 2012.

"Uh, so to speak -- metaphorically," Romney quickly corrected, before adding, "you have to be careful these days, I've learned that."

215 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:30:35am

Oh boy:

According to Reuters, a Reuters cameraman who crossed into Libya from Dehiba saw the bodies of three Khadafy soldiers on the road. Also, Tunisia is shutting down at least one border crossing with Libya, and installing barbed wire defenses against further incursions, while beefing up its border guard presence along the Libyan border.

216 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:35:11am

re: #203 justaminute

Congratulations!

217 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:35:17am

Rather chilly late April day here.

218 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:36:12am

re: #203 justaminute

My son is graduating from flight school in the Navy next month and getting his wings. This weekend he had to do a cross country to finish his training. They flew from Corpus Christie, TX to Minneapolis, MN. I guess CO's take advantage of a student's requirements. They had 3 CO's they had to drop off in various cities and pick up going back. My son just called and said, Mom, it was so exciting "My wings got severely iced up and in one city I was landing in we had severe wind shear." These next 8 years are going to be really exciting if I live through it. :(

Oh, oh, oh, oh. That was my dream.

219 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:38:58am

Remember King & Spalding, the law firm that took and then dropped the DOMA defense case on behalf of the House GOP? Well, they're in Virginian news, as our AG just terminated his office's working relationship with them. The reason?

Accusing them of cowardice for dropping the DOMA case.

Virginia AG cancels King & Spalding work for state after "obsequious act of weakness" in DOMA case

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has terminated his office's relationship with King & Spalding, the Atlanta law firm that abrubtly dropped the U.S. House of Representatives as a client for purposes of defending the Defense of Marriage Act.

"King & Spalding's willingness to drop a client, the U.S. House of Representatives, in connection with the lawsuit challenging the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was such an obsequious act of weakness that I feel compelled to end your legal association with Virginia so that there is no chance that one of my legal clients will be put in the embarrassing and difficult situation like the client you walked away from, the House of Representatives," Cuccinelli said in a letter to Joseph Lynch in the firm's Washington, D.C. office.

A copy of the letter was made available to The Washington Examiner. A request from the newspaper for a response has been emailed to Lynch.

220 justaminute  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:43:24am

re: #218 Gus 802

Oh, oh, oh, oh. That was my dream.

It was my son's since he was 8. I just don't know what he is going to do when the 8 years are up. Airline pilots are such under paid jobs now. He requested the P3 slot because transition is easier than jets. He wants to fly for FedEx when he gets out.

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:48:51am

About to meet my Dad's GIRLFRIEND for the first time. I'm kinda nervous.

222 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:50:59am

re: #217 Gus 802

Rather chilly late April day here.

We're a little cool here too. We've been 10-15 degrees below average for months. They claim it's going to be 70 tomorrow but I'll believe it when I see it.

223 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:51:41am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

We're a little cool here too. We've been 10-15 degrees below average for months. They claim it's going to be 70 tomorrow but I'll believe it when I see it.

They said 70 for Monday here. Kind of windy too but that's died down.

224 justaminute  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:53:14am

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

About to meet my Dad's GIRLFRIEND for the first time. I'm kinda nervous.

My dad has a new girlfriend and he's 84. Their both in the same assisted living. I guess you never get too old.

225 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:53:28am

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

About to meet my Dad's GIRLFRIEND for the first time. I'm kinda nervous.

Don't hit on her :)

226 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:54:43am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

Today in Houston it's 86F, 60% humidity. Just the day to work outside!
Average April temps here normally range 69F-79F.

227 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:56:42am

re: #220 justaminute

It was my son's since he was 8. I just don't know what he is going to do when the 8 years are up. Airline pilots are such under paid jobs now. He requested the P3 slot because transition is easier than jets. He wants to fly for FedEx when he gets out.

That got me wondering about getting a multi-engine rating if you're a fighter pilot. I imagine it would be easy enough to get.

228 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 10:57:19am

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

About to meet my Dad's GIRLFRIEND for the first time. I'm kinda nervous.

check yer fly bro

229 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:07:47am

re: #226 jaunte

Today in Houston it's 86F, 60% humidity. Just the day to work outside!
Average April temps here normally range 69F-79F.

That's pretty warm.

230 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:08:06am

Must. Get. Used. To. Humidity. Again.

231 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:08:57am

re: #230 Gus 802

Water goes in, water comes out; I can't explain it.

232 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:09:17am

re: #231 jaunte

Water goes in, water comes out; I can't explain it.

Remove the water...

233 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:09:24am

Carry the water...

234 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:09:47am

Humidity. How did it get there?

235 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:10:15am
236 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:11:07am
237 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:12:48am

Back to the steam and mulch...

239 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:13:32am

Go RISD! I almost applied to RISD. Even got some glowing recommendation from a RISD grad instructor. What's wrong with me? I even applied to Cornell. I could have graduated years ago and had a degree from a primo university.

240 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:15:24am

re: #237 jaunte

Back to the steam and mulch...

It's good for the skin.

//

241 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:17:49am

re: #238 Varek Raith

Image: YouCantExplainThat_1297499456532.jpg

Airplanes don't flap their wings. How do they fly?

242 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:20:24am

re: #241 Gus 802

Airplanes don't flap their wings. How do they fly?

Very well.

243 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:20:55am

whoa...
Widespread Panic headlines the Taos Solar Music Festival this year, headed by the incomparable Jimmy Herring playing guitar...met him one time back in DC, very nice guy and hugely respected
here's his take on Little Wing...

244 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:20:58am
245 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:21:37am

re: #203 justaminute

My son is graduating from flight school in the Navy next month and getting his wings. This weekend he had to do a cross country to finish his training. They flew from Corpus Christie, TX to Minneapolis, MN. I guess CO's take advantage of a student's requirements. They had 3 CO's they had to drop off in various cities and pick up going back. My son just called and said, Mom, it was so exciting "My wings got severely iced up and in one city I was landing in we had severe wind shear." These next 8 years are going to be really exciting if I live through it. :(

Kudos and congrats!

246 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:22:41am

re: #241 Gus 802

Airplanes don't flap their wings. How do they fly?

Image: Test.jpg

247 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:23:10am

re: #246 Varek Raith

Image: Test.jpg

lol Did you just make that?

248 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:23:58am

re: #247 Gus 802

lol Did you just make that?

Yes.
A neat little toy.

249 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:28:50am

re: #248 Varek Raith

Yes.
A neat little toy.

Weird. That's giving me a Java script error.

250 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:29:27am

re: #249 Gus 802

Weird. That's giving me a Java script error.

Yeah, same here.
If you just hit Ok... a lot, it'll still work.

251 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:29:48am

re: #250 Varek Raith

Yeah, same here.
If you just hit Ok... a lot, it'll still work.

Tanks.

252 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:32:50am

BEHOLD!
Image: 1.jpg

253 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:34:39am

re: #252 Varek Raith

BEHOLD!
Image: 1.jpg

Layers!!11ty

Some day 100 years from now, people will look back at this time...

254 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:37:31am

re: #253 Gus 802

Layers!!11ty

Some day 100 years from now, people will look back at this time...

..and they 'll ask: Why didn't Gus talk abiut the wedding?

255 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:37:37am

re: #243 albusteve

whoa...
Widespread Panic headlines the Taos Solar Music Festival this year, headed by the incomparable Jimmy Herring playing guitar...met him one time back in DC, very nice guy and hugely respected
here's his take on Little Wing...

[Video]

Amazing version of Little Wing! thanks for that..I'm not half the guitarist as him.. But since we all are critics..
I don't like the way he slides the B7th to A7th.. I'm old school with that..And I don't like how he incorporates the Em Vamp lead into a rock song.. It's got too much fusion in it.. It's a rock song damn it! Stick with the way Jimmi played it.. None of that 1-2-4 shit on the high E and B strings...
/Man am I in trouble now.. But that style doesn't sound right to me.. I think i can play the lead better with more emotion...

256 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:39:15am

re: #253 Gus 802

Layers!!11ty

Some day 100 years from now, people will look back at this time...

How's your day going?

257 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:39:27am

Psycho Tweet.

Here's his account.

258 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:40:18am

re: #256 researchok

How's your day going?

Meh. Up and down. I really need more coffee. Just had one cup from the local coffee shop. Getting some car insurance quotes. Yourself?

259 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:40:40am

re: #252 Varek Raith

BEHOLD!
Image: 1.jpg

Final version
Image: 2.jpg

260 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:40:50am

re: #257 Gus 802

Psycho Tweet.

Here's his account.

Where do you find these nut jobs?

261 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:41:02am

re: #260 researchok

Where do you find these nut jobs?

[Link: viletweets.com...]

262 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:41:25am

re: #260 researchok

Where do you find these nut jobs?

At the nut shop!

/

263 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:42:39am

re: #255 HoosierHoops

Amazing version of Little Wing! thanks for that..I'm not half the guitarist as him.. But since we all are critics..
I don't like the way he slides the B7th to A7th.. I'm old school with that..And I don't like how he incorporates the Em Vamp lead into a rock song.. It's got too much fusion in it.. It's a rock song damn it! Stick with the way Jimmi played it.. None of that 1-2-4 shit on the high E and B strings...
/Man am I in trouble now.. But that style doesn't sound right to me.. I think i can play the lead better with more emotion...

Herring plays everything, he gets off some great fusion/jazz riffs...I met him at the Lisner in DC during the huge benefit where they re-did Waiting For Columbus in 02....there were 24 guest musicians and I hung out at the sound check and backstage during the show....Herring was treated like musical royalty

264 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:42:53am

re: #261 Gus 802

[Link: viletweets.com...]

A nut job registry.

Unbelievable.

265 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:43:48am

re: #261 Gus 802

[Link: viletweets.com...]

Wowzers.
Image: prezobummer3.png

266 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:44:54am

re: #265 Varek Raith

Wowzers.
Image: prezobummer3.png

Freak city

267 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:45:54am

re: #266 researchok

Freak city

I wonder how one lives with that kind of hatred?

268 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:46:49am

re: #266 researchok

re: #267 Varek Raith

[Link: twitter.com...]

269 allegro  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:47:08am

re: #267 Varek Raith

I wonder how one lives with that kind of hatred?

Alone. (preferably... far far away...)

270 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:48:29am

re: #263 albusteve

Herring plays everything, he gets off some great fusion/jazz riffs...I met him at the Lisner in DC during the huge benefit where they re-did Waiting For Columbus in 02...there were 24 guest musicians and I hung out at the sound check and backstage during the show...Herring was treated like musical royalty

He is an amazing guitarist...I guess I didn't like the fusion version of the main lead...
My only claim to fame was hanging out one time with Roger Buffalo on the Dead board in Santa Cruz..
/ I told a Dead joke here once a couple of years ago and got some serious down dings.. some people have no sense of humor about bands..LOL

271 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:48:45am

re: #268 Gus 802

re: #267 Varek Raith

[Link: twitter.com...]

Yikes. Here's what he needs to do...
Image: funny-pictures-knoks-dem-rite-owt.jpg

272 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:50:00am

re: #270 HoosierHoops

He is an amazing guitarist...I guess I didn't like the fusion version of the main lead...
My only claim to fame was hanging out one time with Roger Buffalo on the Dead board in Santa Cruz..
/ I told a Dead joke here once a couple of years ago and got some serious down dings.. some people have no sense of humor about bands..LOL

Howdy Hoops. ;)

273 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:50:32am

re: #267 Varek Raith

I wonder how one lives with that kind of hatred?

They don't (unless yjey live an an Idaho compoung

Otherwise, compartmentalization

274 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:52:20am

I really need to work on my non existent typing skills

275 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:52:28am

re: #272 Gus 802

Howdy Hoops. ;)

Who are you? I walked Winston now he is sleeping on my lap...Lazy dog

276 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:53:21am

re: #275 HoosierHoops

Who How are you? I walked Winston now he is sleeping on my lap...Lazy dog

277 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:53:59am

re: #275 HoosierHoops

Who are you? I walked Winston now he is sleeping on my lap...Lazy dog

I know you meant "how" :) Procrastinating. But things are going OK. Glad you didn't get blown away by the wind.

278 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:54:43am

re: #274 researchok

I really need to work on my non existent typing skills

Do what most everyone else does on the internet. Type anything.

279 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:55:20am

I did that

See my 273
//

280 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:56:07am

re: #279 researchok

I did that

See my 273
//

Woops! Qwert yuiop!

281 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:57:02am

Alright, book time

282 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:57:25am

See you all later.

283 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:57:48am

Miss me yet?

284 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:58:01am

Later!

285 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:58:02am

re: #283 researchok

Miss me yet?

Get out!

//

286 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:58:54am

1 PM MDT. Charles must be in his secret laboratory.

287 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:59:20am

re: #283 researchok

Miss me yet?

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...cause I don't want ass-prints on my new door!

//

288 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:59:51am

re: #270 HoosierHoops

He is an amazing guitarist...I guess I didn't like the fusion version of the main lead...
My only claim to fame was hanging out one time with Roger Buffalo on the Dead board in Santa Cruz..
/ I told a Dead joke here once a couple of years ago and got some serious down dings.. some people have no sense of humor about bands..LOL

me neither, but it was brief...
I don't claim any fame, but I traveled alot and paid big bucks to get myself on the inside of the Little Feat big dog fans, then I was one myself!

it was at the Lisner where I met Levon Helm and almost pee'd myself....he walked right up to me standing there and introduced himself!...shit happens....once I figured out how to work it, via tour managers etc, I was in....when you explain you've come 1000 miles for two shows, more often than not they toss me a VIP Backstage pass and presto, the rest was hidtory...I sat for a half hour drinking beer with John Hiatt in Ann Arbor, just him and me while his crew broke down his stuff....man, I had loved that guy for decades....I digress

289 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:00:49pm

This looks useful...

Image: hellokittyfuckyou.jpg

:)

290 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:01:27pm

re: #286 Gus 802

He said he'd be taking it easier on Sundays. I approve.

291 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:02:28pm

re: #290 Obdicut

He said he'd be taking it easier on Sundays. I approve.

Ah. OK. I missed that. It's Saturday though. :) Sure did post a lot yesterday.

292 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:02:37pm

re: #290 Obdicut

He said he'd be taking it easier on Sundays. I approve.

But...it's Saturday. I'm getting bored! Who does he think he, the guy who runs this place?!

///

293 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:03:01pm

re: #292 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

But...it's Saturday. I'm getting bored! Who does he think he, the guy who runs this place?!

///

I demand a refund!

//

294 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:03:26pm
295 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:03:34pm

re: #291 Gus 802

Ah. OK. I missed that. It's Saturday though. :) Sure did post a lot yesterday.

It is? Awesome. I have an extra day.

Nifty.

296 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:03:38pm

re: #293 Gus 802

I demand a refund!

//

I demand a recount!

/Gore

297 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:04:36pm

re: #295 Obdicut

It is? Awesome. I have an extra day.

Nifty.

Skipped a day? I haven't done that in a while.

298 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:05:48pm

re: #297 Gus 802

I don't have any actual deadlines due until next week, and my wife's on vacation. I should have known, though, since my friend's party I'm going to tonight hasn't happened yet.

Chronology will not be my strong suit.

299 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:07:08pm
300 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:09:10pm

re: #299 Gus 802

From Three Construction Kittens

Image: 4660586911_334d2c5996_z.jpg

Poor dear. I'll get a shoe box...

//

301 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:10:18pm

re: #297 Gus 802

Skipped a day? I haven't done that in a while.

Heh, that's not as bad as both my folks. They were an entire week behind, absolutely convinced that my birthday was next week.

302 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:10:55pm

I'll call this iCat.

303 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:11:17pm

re: #301 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Heh, that's not as bad as both my folks. They were an entire week behind, absolutely convinced that my birthday was next week.

Did they insist your were wrong?

304 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:11:51pm

re: #303 Gus 802

Oops. Speaking of typing. Your = you.

305 Winny Spencer  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:13:09pm

Cats are awesome.

306 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:13:21pm

Hey Ice! You there?

307 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:13:53pm

re: #303 Gus 802

Did they insist your were wrong?

No, they both got smacked dead between the eyes with the realization yesterday. Which is hilarious, because all week, I've been talking about what we'd be doing this weekend to celebrate.

Enough to make a guy feel unloved.../

308 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:14:02pm

re: #305 Winny Spencer

Cats are awesome.

Image: 5596987009_4fab923c79_z1.jpg

309 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:15:04pm

re: #305 Winny Spencer

Cats are awesome.

maybe, but you can over do it

310 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:16:27pm
311 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:18:52pm

re: #306 Gus 802

Hey Ice! You there?

I'm here!
Glasgow Celebrates Royal Wedding; ''National Shame'' Ensues

Heh.

312 Winny Spencer  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:19:06pm

re: #310 Gus 802

Dogs too.

Incidentally, who needs people anyway. I prefer cats and dogs.

313 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:20:15pm

re: #302 Gus 802

I'll call this iCat.

[Video]

Any clue what app that is? Because I've got an iPad and three cats who'd get a kick out of that.

314 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:20:35pm

re: #311 iceweasel

I'm here!
Glasgow Celebrates Royal Wedding; ''National Shame'' Ensues

Heh.

Hey. Yeah, saw that. Too much booze.

Saw this earlier though about the UK...

@andersoncooper Anderson Cooper

I love London, but Brits drink 2 much. In 20 min I just saw 25 drunks, 3 vomiters, 5 public pee-ers, and 4 passed out people. Yuck

He was there for the wedding.

315 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:20:53pm

re: #313 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Any clue what app that is? Because I've got an iPad and three cats who'd get a kick out of that.

I have no idea.

316 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:22:01pm

re: #314 Gus 802

Hey. Yeah, saw that. Too much booze.

Saw this earlier though about the UK...

@andersoncooper Anderson Cooper

He was there for the wedding.

Sounds about right./

317 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:23:13pm

I believe Friday nights in London are traditionally celebrated by drinking, smashing shop windows and throwing up a curry. /

Where's wozzablog, he'll back me up!

318 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:29:07pm

re: #314 Gus 802

Hey. Yeah, saw that. Too much booze.

Saw this earlier though about the UK...

@andersoncooper Anderson Cooper

He was there for the wedding.

I've heard that people in Amsterdam are shocked by the amount of weed the Brits smoke too - they think we're crazy.

319 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:30:04pm

re: #318 Jimmah

I've heard that people in Amsterdam are shocked by the amount of weed the Brits smoke too - they think we're crazy.

From Amsterdam? That must be a lot of weed.

320 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:32:57pm

re: #319 Gus 802

From Amsterdam? That must be a lot of weed.

Brits on holiday are terrifying.

321 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:34:36pm

re: #319 Gus 802

From Amsterdam? That must be a lot of weed.

I think the local Dutch people are more easy going about the whole business because they know that getting it is totally unproblematic for them. I think people are more likely to abuse the stuff when supply is intermittent and quality is hit and miss.

322 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:35:03pm

re: #320 iceweasel

Brits on holiday are terrifying.

When we went to Quebec on weekend in the 70s we were kind of taken aback. It was this massive campground. Forget about sleeping and the place reeked of something that we thought might have been cheese fondue mixed in the RV septic tanks. Don't remember if they went nuts but they were all babbling most of the night.

323 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:36:15pm

re: #321 Jimmah

I think the local Dutch people are more easy going about the whole business because they know that getting it is totally unproblematic for them. I think people are more likely to abuse the stuff when supply is intermittent and quality is hit and miss.

It's also just true that Brits on holiday are terrifying. My theory is that you're all so unused to sunshine that it fries your brains. :)

324 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:36:23pm

re: #321 Jimmah

I think the local Dutch people are more easy going about the whole business because they know that getting it is totally unproblematic for them. I think people are more likely to abuse the stuff when supply is intermittent and quality is hit and miss.

Here come the Brits on "shore leave" again!

325 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:36:24pm

re: #321 Jimmah

But then again, we also abuse alcohol and there's no supply problem there...

326 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:37:06pm

re: #325 Jimmah

But then again, we also abuse alcohol and there's no supply problem there...

What's the legal status of pot in the UK?

327 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:37:46pm

re: #325 Jimmah

But then again, we also abuse alcohol and there's no supply problem there...

But there used to be-- pub's early closing times. I think a lot of people developed this culture where you drink like the place is about to shut, ordering two at a time.

328 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:39:43pm

re: #323 iceweasel

It's also just true that Brits on holiday are terrifying. My theory is that you're all so unused to sunshine that it fries your brains. :)

Oh yeah - I'd advise anyone thinking of a European trip to stick to the cultural spots and avoid the popular Brit destinations like Lanzarote, Ibiza, Tenerife, Costa Del Sol etc. Nightmare.

329 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:40:43pm

re: #326 Gus 802

What's the legal status of pot in the UK?

Illegal, but you are unlikely to get busted unless you walk right up to a bobby and offer him a toke.

330 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:43:41pm

re: #329 Jimmah

Illegal, but you are unlikely to get busted unless you walk right up to a bobby and offer him a toke.

Especially if you blow him a "shotgun".

//

331 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:50:20pm

re: #330 Gus 802

Especially if you blow him a "shotgun".

//

I think the bobbies at 3:40 onwards in this video already had a few :)

332 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:53:59pm

re: #331 Jimmah

I think the bobbies at 3:40 onwards in this video already had a few :)

[Video]

Blocked in the USA.

333 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:55:26pm

re: #332 Gus 802

Blocked in the USA.

try this one :

334 MellyMel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:55:30pm

re: #302 Gus 802

It's cute, but by virtue of the price tag of an iPad, my cats would automatically ignore it. Now, a cardboard box? Good times!

335 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:56:02pm

re: #333 Jimmah

try this one :

[Video]

Same thing. :)

336 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:00:02pm

re: #335 Gus 802

Same thing. :)

Damn. This is what I use when I'm trying to watch stuff that's not meant for UK eyes - like Colbert, John Stewart etc. Might work for you:

(does place an ad banner at the top of your page while you are logged into it though)

[Link: hotspotshield.com...]

337 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:00:11pm

re: #305 Winny Spencer

Cats are awesome.

Yep.

And here's a question: Do big cats like catnip like small cats do?

Here's the answer:

338 Winny Spencer  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:10:40pm

Growing up, my whole family except for me was allergic to both cats and dogs.

Luckily, my aunt had cats, and new kittens every summer. Sweet memories.

339 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:17:04pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

BP is a corporation.
A corporation now has rights based on an individual.
BP should therefore be charged with 11 counts of murder because of their negligence in the Gulf.
Two edged sword and all that.

hahaha well done

I'd like to see BP put away in supermax! Maybe in solitary. Same with a lot of Wall Street. Ruining the world. Old boy networks.

Corporate personhood = American serfdom

It's comin' guys :)


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