Sources for Pim Fortuyn ‘Fascist’ Quote

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Mon Nov 5, 2007 at 8:44 am PST • Views: 742

If you’ve been following the misleading claims put out by Vlaams Belang supporters such as Brussels Journal, you probably noticed that they’re now saying that assassinated Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was a supporter of Vlaams Belang, and never called Filip DeWinter a ‘fascist,’ as cited by Wikipedia.

Two European readers have now emailed links to sources for this quote. The first is Blokwatch: Nationale webstek over het Vlaams Belang - De extreem-rechtse internationale. It’s in Dutch, of course, but the pertinent section is readable anyway, and is credited to the Belgian newspaper De Morgen:

De liefde lijkt echter van maar één kant te komen. ‘Ik heb het Vlaams Belang niet nodig’, riposteerde Wilders (De Morgen, 29.1.2005). Daarmee ontspint zich dezelfde situatie als met wijlen Pim Fortuyn het geval was. Dewinter en tutti quanti – nochtans tegenstanders van het homohuwelijk – maakten Fortuyn constant het hof, terwijl Fortuyn er alles aan deed om niét met het Blok geassocieerd te worden. Hij ergerde er zich aan vergeleken te worden met heren van het slag Le Pen of Dewinter: ‘Die mannen zeggen dingen die je niet kunt maken. Dewinter is een fascist. Ik ben een beschaafde man. U zult mij niet horen zeggen: ‘Eigen volk eerst’ (De Morgen, 4.5.2005).

The second source is LVB.net—whose owner, Luc Van Braekel, is the webmaster of Brussels Journal: Fortuyn over België en Dewinter.

[Bij het afscheid blijkt hoe geobsedeerd Fortuyn is door de veelgemaakte vergelijking met Le Pen en Dewinter.] Die mannen zeggen dingen die je niet kunt maken. Dewinter is een fascist. Ik ben een beschaafde man. U zult mij niet horen zeggen: ‘Eigen volk eerst’. En ben ik niet veel sympathieker dan Dewinter?

A Babelfish translation: Fortuyn concerning Belgian Dewinter.

[ At the farewell proves to be how obsessed Fortuyn are by much-made comparison with Le pen and Dewinter. ] Those men say things whom you cannot make. Dewinter is a fascist. I am a civilised man. You will not hear me say: ‘ own people firstly ‘. And I not are much more sympathetic than Dewinter?

UPDATE at 11/5/07 9:26:03 am:

Michael Van Der Galiën (for whom you should vote in the Weblog Awards) emailed a better translation of Fortuyn’s statement:

“Those men say unacceptable things. DeWinter is a fascist. I’m a civilized man. You won’t hear me say: ‘own people first.’ And am I not much more sympathetic than DeWinter?”

Also, Pim Fortuyn’s brother was interviewed about the decision of Dutch politician Nawijn and DeWinter to start a think tank in Fortuyn’s home: “People have to realize that Philip DeWinter still flirts with the extreme right.”

Marten Fortuyn was upset about the association because he knew what his brother thought of DeWinter.

Here’s the link in Dutch.

Michael Van Der Galiën also has some words of his own on this matter:

For what it’s worth: every Dutchman knows that you’re right. Fortuyn only defended DeWinter when the latter was attacked by people, etc. His message was: they’re fascists, but fascists have a right to speak out as well.

When will Paul Belien retract his misleading post?

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