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At the Official Barack Obama Blog Site: The Revolutionary Communist Party

Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:16:55 am PDT

I think we have the jawdropper of the day, as the official web site of a candidate for president of the United States contains a blog posted by a follower of World Can’t Wait, linking to an article by the chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

And we know that Obama campaign administrators are monitoring the site. Notice that it’s been posted since May 26th.

Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Miss Bunny’s Blog: Why Jeremiah Wright wasn’t talking about ‘The Past’.

Why Jeremiah Wright wasn’t talking about ‘The Past’
By Miss Bunny “Hussein” - May 26th, 2008 at 4:05 am EDT

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Tags: Jeremiah Wright

The Sean Bell Murder and the Re-Klanification of America
by Malcolm Shore

This article originally appeared on the website of The World Can’t Wait—Drive Out the Bush Regime (worldcantwait.org) and is reprinted here with permission.

In opening his 2003 speech Revolution: Why It’s Necessary, Why It’s Possible, What It’s All About, Bob Avakian—the Chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP)—traced the rivers of Black blood that feed the ocean of American history. After angrily recounting some of the most horrific instances of lynching that occurred on U.S. soil, Avakian quoted an author who had written a book about the subject as saying: “It is doubtful that any Black male growing up in the rural South, in the period from 1900-1940, was not traumatized by a fear of being lynched.”

A few minutes later in this talk, Avakian updated the author’s observation to reflect modern U.S. society. “Today it is mostly the police—who openly, as the police—carry out brutality and terror against Black youth and Black people in general,” Avakian said. “Applying that author’s statement on lynching to the present, we could put it this way: ‘It is doubtful that there is a young Black male growing up in the US today—in the south or the north—who does not have a very real fear of being brutalized or even murdered by the police.’”

If you want to read the rest of this hard core Stalinist propaganda, here it is. Keep a barf bag handy.

Miss Bunny “Hussein” has a blog that’s been active for more than a month.

Here she “fights the smears” by calling Christians the “greediest wolves on the planet:” Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Miss Bunny’s Blog: Obama Fight the Smears Campaign.

I take issue with him being a christian, because christianity breeds hatred and racism and all other manner of ill-will toward other human beings, but I’m not gonna fault him for it. As far as belief goes, we can all do better than christianity. I believe in God, I just don’t have any trust or faith in anyone who calls themselves a christian-they are some of the most hateful and vicious, cruel and spiteful ravenous greediest wolves on the planet, and with rare exception. Had it not been for “christians,” there would have been no slavery in America and none of this kind of racism for any of us to deal with in the first place.

Here she attacks John McCain’s service record with a series of outright libels: Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Miss Bunny’s Blog: McCain’s War Hero Record.

But the real kicker: she knows the moderators have received complaints about her—yet she’s still there, posting Communist propaganda: Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Miss Bunny’s Blog: By the way-some Obama Hater is in here...

By the way-some Obama Hater is in here...
By Miss Bunny “Hussein” - Jun 11th, 2008 at 5:54 pm EDT

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...marking all of my blogs as “objectionable content,” so don’t be surprised if you see their hatred of Obama and jealousy smears make my blog go “bye bye.”

They are being divisive and reporting me as being divisive when all I do is what blogs are made for, bring items up for discussion.

But I guess it depends on who’s being divisive whose blog gets rolled and whose doesn’t...that’s all I can say.

Now, I know how Jeremiah Wright musta felt.

(Hat tip: Adam.)

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1 pat  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:17:30am

Fellow Travelers

2 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:17:36am

Fellow travelers.

3 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:18:17am

This is not the Karl Marx I knew.

4 FrogMarch  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:18:38am

Democrats always offer the promise of confiscatory taxation. Which in turn makes communists swoon.

5 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:18:54am

And the hits, they just keep onnnnnnnn comin'.

6 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:19:20am

re: #1 pat

GET OUT OF MY MIND!

;-)

7 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:19:28am

A tree is known by its fruit.

8 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:19:31am
9 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:19:45am

Slip hell, the mask is TOTALLY GONE!

10 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:20:04am

Interesting. I thought it was Black youth who were carrying out a program of terror against Black youth. They are, after all, half of the perpertrators, and half of the victims of Homicide in America.

But that, of course, doesn't fit the narrative.

11 pat  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:20:07am

I think that Obama has known these followers well and welcomes them to his campaign. There are way too many for this to be a coincidence or happenstance. I wonder if the MSM is catching on?

12 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:20:12am

Communism, it is back. Ever since the internet gave us free music downloads, the rest was inevitable.

13 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:20:17am

Marx will never frogive you.

14 Sizzlack  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:20:23am

Aha. So the commies are trying to get in bed with Obama. And he doesn't seem to care. Where is the siren and red flashing light? Zombie McCarthy is rolling in his tomb.

15 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:20:29am

re: #3 Occasional Reader

This is not the Karl Marx I knew.

Marx goes under the bus, but Trotsky will get the axe.

16 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:20:31am

How long till this is flushed down the memory hole?

17 maddogg  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:20:48am

Not too comfy with my visions of the future here folks.....

18 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:21:11am

re: #10 Iron Fist

Interesting. I thought it was Black youth who were carrying out a program of terror against Black youth. They are, after all, half of the perpertrators, and half of the victims of Homicide in America.

But that, of course, doesn't fit the narrative.

They've made up their minds - don't confuse them with the facts!

19 Sizzlack  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:21:14am

re: #16 Honorary Yooper

How long till this is flushed down the memory hole?

Now that Charles has brought it to light...I give it 3 hours.

20 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:21:15am

The American Communist Party endorsed AlGore in 2000. Nothing new here.

21 FrogMarch  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:21:16am

All the Christians I know are very generous and giving. Unlike the liberals I know --who are self-centered stingy tight-wads.

22 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:21:19am

BEHEAD THOSE WHO ARE TOO THICK TO UNDERSTAND COINCIDENCES

23 Purple Fury  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:22:26am
They are being divisive and reporting me as being divisive when all I do is what blogs are made for, bring items up for discussion.

Hey! I'm just asking questions!

24 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:22:40am

I just don't understand how the "moderators" at his site figure out what to allow and what to delete. Is it that they only delete the really nasty shit people post when it's pointed out to them, or do they have ANY political savy (not to mention decency) at all?
I ask this seriously, because until Charles came along and exposed all the truly vile stuff on his website, was any of it ever removed?

25 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:22:46am

Actually Obama's web site and blog are just the gift that keeps on giving. Not sure they could have planned a more damaging web presence.

26 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:22:51am

I've heard of a dumb-bunny but, Miss Bunny sets a new standard.

27 Charles  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:22:55am

There's so much of this kind of stuff at that web site. There's absolutely no way they'll ever clean it up. It's completely out of control.

28 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:23:16am

re: #15 jcm

Marx goes under the bus, but Trotsky will get the axe.

Wasn't it an icepick? Could be wrong, I'm not up on my Communist Evil Bastard methods of being murdered.

29 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:23:22am

re: #21 FrogMarch

All the Christians I know are very generous and giving. Unlike the liberals I know --who are self-centered stingy tight-wads.

I dated a girl that had a tightwad.....Oh wait!

30 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:23:37am

From the blog:

"I take issue with him being a christian, because christianity breeds hatred and racism and all other manner of ill-will toward other human beings, but I’m not gonna fault him for it."

No you stupid [explicative deleted], you are going to call him a Hater and Racist, just not fault him for it.

Sounds vaguely like GoV for some reason.

31 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:24:07am

re: #12 rawmuse

Communism, it is back. Ever since the internet gave us free music downloads, the rest was inevitable.

I posted this on the weekend. The earth huggers celebrate at Stonehenge. Look at the ground in pics 1, 2, and 8.

32 mbruce  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:24:08am

Hmm,I don't seem to remember the that is was the Christian's rounding up the slaves and sending them to the new world. For that matter, I don't seem to find where Christians are still keeping slaves.
There is some group that I seem to remember being involved with all of that for,oh, a really long time.....who were they again?......

33 addison  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:24:10am

It is a truly historically-illiterate fool who writes that the reason for slavery was Christianity when slavery preceded Christianity by millennia.

And Christianity does not support racism nor did racism begin with Christianity. It was Christians (and Jews) who set out to stop racism, not prolong it.

Anyway, talking sense to a Marxist...might as well cut off my thumb with a dull spoon for all the good it would do.

34 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:24:18am

re: #6 jcm

GET OUT OF MY MIND!

;-)

Your punctuation was better.

35 Sizzlack  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:24:25am

re: #27 Charles

There's so much of this kind of stuff at that web site. There's absolutely no way they'll ever clean it up. It's completely out of control.

They seem to only clean up what you choose to highlight. Kind of fits with Obama's plan to fight terrorism. Using law enforcement, he'll clean up after an attack but do nothing to prevent it. Yea...matches up with his site's philosophy rather well.

36 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:24:33am

At this point I regard the Democratic Party as the AIDS virus of politics.

37 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:25:02am

re: #28 CIA Reject

Wasn't it an icepick? Could be wrong, I'm not up on my Communist Evil Bastard methods of being murdered.

Technically it was an ice axe.

38 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:25:08am

re: #25 WriterMom,

Oh, they could have planned worse. But the beauty of this is that we are seeing BHO's supporters exposed from the heart. No shilling or hiding, just pure hate-America pro-Communism for all the world to see.

It is a work of art.

39 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:25:20am

Just voices from the fringe.
It's not like the typical Obama voter wants to nationalize industry, tax wealth,and ban all new power generation.

40 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:25:22am

re: #15 jcm

Marx goes under the bus, but Trotsky will get the axe.

Hey, you're just ice-picking Trostky comments. I mean, cherry-picking.

41 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:25:32am

re: #10 Iron Fist
Huh, I thought it was more than half in both instances.
Black on Black crime is something that has been noticed and commented on MANY times and, not uncommonly Blacks themselves.

42 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:25:36am

Does Angela Davis support him? Would Gus Hall if he were still alive?

43 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:25:47am

Come on, is this really so different from the rest of the Dhimmicrap party?

Seriously, even the Boston Globe had an article on Bob Avakian that, while being nice to him in a way, indicated that he is probably getting money from China and other communist countries. Even other leftists didn't like him or his group.

I wonder if he's laundering Chinese money to give to the Obama campaign?

44 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:25:52am

re: #34 CyanSnowHawk

Your punctuation was better.

LOL, that's how he beat my by 6 sec.

45 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:26:44am

re: #27 Charles

There's so much of this kind of stuff at that web site. There's absolutely no way they'll ever clean it up. It's completely out of control.

Well, we will know Obama by those who support him. And we can see at MyBarackObama who supports Obama.

But, should we expect less, considering that many of the same who post at MyBarackObama are from the Daily Kos, where Markos "Screw Them" Moulitsas lets this stuff run rampent?

46 Spiny Norman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:26:48am

re: #15 jcm re:

#3 Occasional Reader
This is not the Karl Marx I knew.

Marx goes under the bus, but Trotsky will get the axe.

I thought it was an ice pick to the skull.

d8^0~

47 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:26:49am

I played a jazz gig last night, there were some commies on the gig. They live in Berkeley. They talked about how nice Berkeley was before Rent Control screwed everything up. No kidding.

48 BGOH  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:26:59am

It is sad that this isn't shocking. This is what the Democrat party has bred for years, and now they are reaping what they have sown.

If the American people don't see through this in this election cycle, it is only going to get worse. How bad does McCain look now?

49 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:27:09am

re: #39 Peacekeeper

Just voices from the fringe.
It's not like the typical Obama voter wants to nationalize industry, tax wealth,and ban all new power generation.

/
use mine.

50 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:27:38am

re: #32 mbruce

Some Christians were. Then they repented and
wrote hymns like this.

51 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:27:57am

Does Obama REALLY have a copy of the "Little Red Book" on his desk, it would look so good in the oval office on his desk. *SPIT*!

52 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:27:59am

OK OK OK OK OK OK OK PEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPUUUUUULLLLL! Let's have a little CONTEXT here shall we! Let's put this all in PERSPECTIVE!

How is ANY of this helping Michelle's Children?

/Public Service Mode off....

53 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:28:09am

re: #46 Spiny Norman

re:

I thought it was an ice pick to the skull.

d8^0~

On August 20, 1940, Trotsky was successfully attacked in his home by a NKVD agent, Ramón Mercader, who smashed the pick of an ice axe into Trotsky's skull.

There's some room for poetic license!
;-)

54 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:28:16am

I take issue with him being a christian, because christianity breeds hatred and racism and all other manner of ill-will toward other human beings, but I’m not gonna fault him for it.

I think I'm going to vote my fears.

55 bosforus  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:28:28am

The World Can't Wait. 'Nuff said.

56 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:28:32am

re: #38 Iron Fist

There have been many studies of how America's enemies have, in the past, been empowered by internal fifth column political activities-particularly the "anti-war" activity in the Vietnam era. The internet has created an even more effective way to thread these people together and give them unprescedented platforms. There can be no doubt that their goal is to undermine-and possibly destroy completely-the Western, liberal democratic way of life.

57 Lawrence Schmerel  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:28:41am

Thank you for exposing these kooks, Charles. Well done on your part.

58 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:29:22am

re: #32 mbruce

Hmm,I don't seem to remember the that is was the Christian's rounding up the slaves and sending them to the new world.

Huh? Yeah, that did happen.

Of course, then Judeo-Christian civilization went on to come up with the historically unique idea of abolishing slavery.

59 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:29:22am

Did you really think that the Communists and WCW people would vote for anyone other than Obama? He's the kind of change they hope he can bring.

60 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:29:45am

Love to see the furor if a major news outlet exposed this website the way you've done, Charles.

61 CIA Reject  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:29:53am

re: #32 mbruce

Hmm,I don't seem to remember the that is was the Christian's rounding up the slaves and sending them to the new world. For that matter, I don't seem to find where Christians are still keeping slaves.
There is some group that I seem to remember being involved with all of that for,oh, a really long time.....who were they again?......

The Daughters of the American Revolution?

62 razorbacker  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:05am

re: #42 MandyManners

Does Angela Davis support him? Would Gus Hall if he were still alive?

Of course they would not. Professional jealousy would rear it's ugly head. If you've worked all you life in vain and some wet-behind-the-ears Chicago ward-heeler waltzes up and does it better than you ever dreamed, you're not going to be a fan.

63 zombie  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:07am

Ah, woke up to a good morning in zombie land. Got links from Instapundit, Michelle Malkin, Jawa Report, LGF, Pajamas Media, and a whole slew of others. Now I won't feel guilty when I have to spend all day on non-zombie stuff. I've already done my blogging for the day!

64 calvin coolidge  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:10am

Communism. Isn't that the concept that EVERYONE is a slave except for the party elite?

65 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:14am

Watched "Enemy at the Gates" last night. I can easily picture the average Obamanite working as a Commisar.

66 Sizzlack  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:15am

re: #56 WriterMom

So the anti-war crowd is kind of like the after birth of democracy.

67 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:20am

re: #13 Peacekeeper

Frogive?

68 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:25am

re: #33 addison

It is a truly historically-illiterate fool who writes that the reason for slavery was Christianity when slavery preceded Christianity by millennia.

And Christianity does not support racism nor did racism begin with Christianity. It was Christians (and Jews) who set out to stop racism, not prolong it.

Anyway, talking sense to a Marxist...might as well cut off my thumb with a dull spoon for all the good it would do.

Slavery is a "normal" state for human culture. The anti-slavery movement is historically recent, western and predominately Christian.

As to talking to a Marxist, when all is for that state, and all comes from the state, that is slavery.

69 FrogMarch  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:38am

Leftists refuse to understand a very basic historical fact:
Slavery didn't begin and end in America.

America is getting better not worse.
/but wait - must go back in time to make a point...neo-Stalinists must mine for victims

70 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:39am

Between attacks onChristianity and Judaism, we see that the Left has determined who is going to put against the wall when their revolution comes.

71 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:52am

re: #50 Ojoe

Some Christians were. Then they repented and
wrote hymns like this.

That is beautiful! Thank you for posting it.

72 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:30:53am

re: #60 irongrampa

Love to see the furor if a major news outlet exposed this website the way you've done, Charles.

They're too busy getting tingly in the legs to report on it.

73 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:31:13am

re: #63 zombie

a good morning in zombie land

What a great place to be!

74 pat  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:31:17am

Wonder when the Ts with Che on the front and Obama on the back will come out?

75 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:31:20am

re: #63 zombie

Ah, woke up to a good morning in zombie land. Got links from Instapundit, Michelle Malkin, Jawa Report, LGF, Pajamas Media, and a whole slew of others. Now I won't feel guilty when I have to spend all day on non-zombie stuff. I've already done my blogging for the day!

zombie, you da ma..... zombie!

76 zombie  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:31:34am

Plus, I accidentally helped to draw attention to these World Can't Wait diaries at Obamablog -- an achievement by proxy. Any day I can unconvince one Obama voter is a good day.

77 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:02am

Look, let's not bother the guy with these sorts of pesky associations, okay? Just let him eat his waffle.

78 kansas  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:18am

Obama on the High Cost of Gas and Criticizing McCain for Advocating
Exploration in our own country.

"The question is whether we are going to offer the American people real answers and genuine relief or the same, tired Washington gimmicks and special interest favors that have failed our families and country for too long," the Obama memo states.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm on board with that. Really clears it up for me. Change I can believe in.

Just kidding. Actually, WTF does that mean?

79 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:21am

Sadly too, none of this will matter to 99% of the voting public. They wont know, or care that the major party candidate has an active following of communists and anti-American leftists as one of its core constituencies.

The media has been sleeping through this, despite the serious issues presented by Obama's ongoing pandering to these groups, the money raised therefrom, and to whom he owes his success.

80 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:33am

re: #41 realwest,

It depends on the year you are citing, I think. The roughly half statistic will hold up no matter which year you pick for at least the last 20 years.

A few Black leaders will acknowledge this (i.e. Bill Cosby), but too many are still pandering to the Idea that somehow it is the Man keeping the Blacks down. The pattern of homicide is completely ignored, even though it is truly at epidemic proportions. Black youth are a minority of a minority, yet they are the raw majority of homicides. It didn't used to be that way.

81 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:51am

re: #62 razorbacker

Of course they would not. Professional jealousy would rear it's ugly head. If you've worked all you life in vain and some wet-behind-the-ears Chicago ward-heeler waltzes up and does it better than you ever dreamed, you're not going to be a fan.

They'd support anyone who's out to kill America.

82 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:52am

re: #71 VegasRick

Who can improve on that song?

It will be sung forever that good people exist


Was blind

But now I see

83 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:56am

re: #74 pat

Wonder when the Ts with Che on the front and Obama on the back will come out?

You sure they'll make them in that direction, and not Obama on the front, Che on the back? Remember, we're talking about the Obamesiah here!

84 redheadredstate  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:57am

I've said it before I'll say it again. How in the hell can anyone vote for this idiot and still call themselves sane? They aren't even bothering to hide their alliances anymore. The MSM is in the tank for Barry and so are 95% of the blacks in this country. It is blind allegiance without thought for morals or country. And now according to the latest polls BHO is ahead of McCain in the polls. When did down become up and the world tilt on its axis?

85 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:32:59am
86 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:33:05am

re: #60 irongrampa
Never, ever gonna happen. Never.
Charles has intellectual honesty and a sense of morality and that's why he exposes these........people.
The MSM do not have intellectual honesty and their level of morality is about level to cow-piss on a flat rock.
And that goes for Fox too. Recently, maybe especially for Fox.

87 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:33:32am

re: #50 Ojoe

Some Christians were. Then they repented and
wrote hymns like this.

I knew an Asian-Latina girl named Grace who looked pretty amazing in a bikini. (Not that I think the hymn is necessarily about her. But it could be.)

88 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:33:34am

re: #27 Charles

There's so much of this kind of stuff at that web site. There's absolutely no way they'll ever clean it up. It's completely out of control.

Hercules just diverted a river to run down the middle of the stables. The only answer to problems that have gotten too big to clean retail, is to clean them wholesale. The site will be taken down, and reconstituted without its mass of offending and inoffensive posts. New posts will come under more careful scrutiny, or will come only from trusted sources.

It will be explained that the site was a primary election blog, and now that the convention is over and we're into the general election, it's time to MoveOn.

89 Charles  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:33:40am

re: #45 Honorary Yooper

Well, we will know Obama by those who support him. And we can see at MyBarackObama who supports Obama.

But, should we expect less, considering that many of the same who post at MyBarackObama are from the Daily Kos, where Markos "Screw Them" Moulitsas lets this stuff run rampent?

It's worse than Daily Kos.

90 Sizzlack  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:34:06am

re: #79 lawhawk

Sadly too, none of this will matter to 99% of the voting public. They wont know, or care that the major party candidate has an active following of communists and anti-American leftists as one of its core constituencies.

The media has been sleeping through this, despite the serious issues presented by Obama's ongoing pandering to these groups, the money raised therefrom, and to whom he owes his success.

The guy who wrote that anti-Kerry book in 2004 is coming out with an expose on Obama later this summer. Lets hope it achieves the same success the anti-Kerry book did....#1 on the NYT Best Sellers List.

91 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:34:32am

re: #87 Occasional Reader

God has made much beauty

92 pat  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:34:42am

re: #80 Iron Fist

51% of all homicides in America are by blacks.

93 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:34:49am

re: #79 lawhawk

Yes-I think the series by Stanley Kurtz on NRO really drove that point home. He owes his entire political career to the extreme left, and paybacks are the order of the day. Mind you-there is a lot of big 'democrat' money flowing his way. I think that liberal Jewish philanthropist woman from LA was the classic example-she was "shocked" and horrified by Wright and what those thugs really think of JOOOOOOS-yet opened up her chequebook a few days later. Reality just hasn't mugged these idiots. And it won't ever.

94 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:34:55am

re: #82 Ojoe

Who can improve on that song?

It will be sung forever that good people exist


Was blind

But now I see

Inspiring, really.

95 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:35:09am
96 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:35:22am

re: #78 kansas

Obama on the High Cost of Gas and Criticizing McCain for Advocating
Exploration in our own country.

"The question is whether we are going to offer the American people real answers and genuine relief or the same, tired Washington gimmicks and special interest favors that have failed our families and country for too long," the Obama memo states.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm on board with that. Really clears it up for me. Change I can believe in.

Just kidding. Actually, WTF does that mean?

It means he is going to spend billions looking for new ways to piss away our money rather than drill and set up new refineries

97 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:35:39am

re: #85 buzzsawmonkey

Liberal Jews! Wake Up And Smell (Read?) The Torah!

98 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:36:30am

re: #89 Charles

It's worse than Daily Kos.

And from a potential (God, no) POTUS. Disgusting.

99 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:36:31am

re: #92 pat

Prosperity comes from good behavior

Good behavior does not come from prosperity

100 Sizzlack  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:36:35am

re: #97 WriterMom

Liberal Jews! Wake Up And Smell (Read?) The Torah!

Kind of smells like mothballs. At least my temple's torahs always did.

101 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:37:20am
102 bulwrk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:38:01am

Combat pilot McCain III lost his fourth on July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk combat pilot. While waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.


Trying to lay the blame on him for the loss of a plane and the death of 134 sailors in an incident in which he had no control is disgusting.

103 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:38:14am

"This is not the WWII-hero-that-liberated-Auschwitz Uncle Joe Stalin I knew."

- bho

104 Spiny Norman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:38:34am

re: #59 lawhawk

Did you really think that the Communists and WCW people would vote for anyone other than Obama? He's the kind of change they hope he can bring.

Or the kind of change they hope they can exploit.

Viva la Révolucion!

105 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:38:35am

re: #22 WriterMom

BEHEAD THOSE WHO ARE TOO THICK TO UNDERSTAND COINCIDENCES

WM, please accept my apology for my post in the protest thread.
I did not mean the remark that offended you to be funny. As I was not clear on that, and the other two posts were meant to be funny, I can understand why you felt the way you did.

I have never made fun of such a thing and never will.

106 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:38:43am

Why are Jewish folks supporting Obama?, even 1, don't they they realize he is out to destroy them?, or are they all just stupid?

107 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:38:44am

re: #101 WriterMom

OT: "God" Busted For Selling Drugs Outside Church

Authorities began investigating God Lucky Howard in April, and he was arrested on Saturday. Police said he sold the cocaine to undercover detectives in his neighborhood

The fifth stooge.

108 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:39:14am

re: #101 WriterMom

Heh.

109 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:39:23am

re: #93 WriterMom

Yes-I think the series by Stanley Kurtz on NRO really drove that point home. He owes his entire political career to the extreme left, and paybacks are the order of the day. Mind you-there is a lot of big 'democrat' money flowing his way. I think that liberal Jewish philanthropist woman from LA was the classic example-she was "shocked" and horrified by Wright and what those thugs really think of JOOOOOOS-yet opened up her chequebook a few days later. Reality just hasn't mugged these idiots. And it won't ever.

They'll be mugged after the election. And then they'll write m ore checks hoping to purchase his benevolence. The fact that it never works will not dissuade them. Lib friends of mine admit to this brilliant strategey

110 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:39:29am

re: #60 irongrampa

Love to see the furor if a major news outlet exposed this website the way you've done, Charles.

And lose all of Soros' companies as advertisers?

111 Daisy  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:39:33am

"Had it not been Because of the abolition movement started by “christians,” Christians there would have been no slavery was abolished in America" Corrected by Daisy for Bunny Hussein

Wow. That's one sick bunny. She displays 100 % pure, unadulterated ignorance. Glad for the chance to correct her false statement.

112 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:39:38am
113 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:39:44am

re: #101 WriterMom

OT: "God" Busted For Selling Drugs Outside Church

Somewhere, George Carlin is laughing.

114 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:39:48am
115 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:39:59am

re: #89 Charles

It's worse than Daily Kos.

True, Markos does at least delete diaries that go too far, or are Troofer diaries. There seem to be no such controls or moderation at MyBarackObama.

WTF were they thinking, having a practically unmoderated site (well, there is moderation, but the inmates have taken over the asylum) for a presumtive presidential candidate? It's beyond insane.

116 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:40:25am

re: #101 WriterMom
See, that's what I meant in my #86; that bullshit will make Fox News.
But Obama's website and the vile disgusting blogs which it supports will go unnoticed.

117 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:40:45am

IF Obamam loses there will be some pretty anguished little lefties running around.

118 JSK1121  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:41:00am

It's funny how MUSLIMS started the slave trade, not Christians.

Islamic Fundamentalists and Looney Leftists; A Match Made in Hell

119 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:41:02am

OT

Oh [deleted] [deleted]. From Rush...

James Hansen: Prosecute oil companies, top scientist says

Dr Hansen, who is head of Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, will accuse the heads of companies such as oil giant ExxonMobil and coal producer Peabody Energy of actively spreading disinformation about climate change.

His allegations against the fossil fuel giants are similar to those made against tobacco companies which denied the links between smoking and lung canc

[snip]

"When you are in that kind of position, as the CEO of one the primary players who have been putting out misinformation even via organisations that affect what gets into school textbooks, then I think that's a crime," he said in an interview with the Guardian.
120 mikalm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:41:08am

re: #70 Peacekeeper

"First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people." Just like their pals the Islamists....

121 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:41:24am

re: #117 Peacekeeper

IF Obamam loses there will be some pretty anguished little lefties running around.

Anguish is their normal state. Nothing will be different.

122 Sizzlack  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:41:32am

re: #106 'Nam Grunt

Why are Jewish folks supporting Obama?, even 1, don't they they realize he is out to destroy them?, or are they all just stupid?

Well, my grandma is a good example. Austrian Jew, 85 years old, lifelong Democrat. She doesn't care what bad stuff you bring up about Obama, she will vote for whoever has the (D) in front of their name come November, regardless of what is exposed about them. And no she is not senile. Though when I talk politics with her I sometimes think otherwise.

123 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:41:35am

re: #86 realwest

Yeah, Realwest-noticed that too, heck of a disappointent there. Originally, Fox was the one outlet I relied on for a balanced look at the news.
At this rate, the Internet is gonna wind up as the prime source of unbiased news for me.

124 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:42:38am

re: #115 Honorary Yooper


WTF were they thinking, having a practically unmoderated site (well, there is moderation, but the inmates have taken over the asylum) for a presumtive presidential candidate? It's beyond insane.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. There site is proof of that. They thought a completely open forum would bring out the best for Barry. Idiots.

125 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:42:39am

re: #105 Hard Right

Hard Right-you really don't need to apologize to me-it's not my blog...I think we've all had posts that we wish had a retreive button...it's a very tender subject and I certainly accept that you didn't mean any offence. Let's move on-there are so many other topics that require our attention.

:)

126 shropshire_slasher  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:42:44am

This guy Obama is an open book, a useful idiot. I wonder who his puppet master is? I predict Obama winning though. Imagine the rapture in the media the first hundred days, ugh, I'm gonna lose my lunch/technicolor yawn/BUICK, etc.

127 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:42:46am

re: #119 jcm

Did not Dr. Hansen play around with the data to make it look like global warming was occurring?

128 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:42:55am

re: #119 jcm

then I think that's a crime," he said in an interview with the Guardian.

Oh, well, if you think it's a crime, Doc, I guess we should go ahead and prosecute.

jcm: Didn't want to continue this on the Carlin RIP thread, but: Explain why you think the M&P Compact .40 is better than, say, a Glock 23. Just curious.

129 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:00am

re: #117 Peacekeeper

IF Obamam loses there will be some pretty anguished little lefties running around.

I pray that is all they do.

130 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:01am
131 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:05am

re: #123 irongrampa

Yeah, Realwest-noticed that too, heck of a disappointent there. Originally, Fox was the one outlet I relied on for a balanced look at the news.
At this rate, the Internet is gonna wind up as the prime source of unbiased news for me.

Already is, LFG and the spinoffs is a good start.

132 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:05am

"...Christianity breeds hatred and racism and all other manner of ill-will toward other human beings,..."

I'd like to see what the kids who receive Christmas gift shoeboxes from Samaritan's Purse would say to that.

133 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:08am

re: #106 'Nam Grunt

Why are Jewish folks supporting Obama?, even 1, don't they they realize he is out to destroy them?, or are they all just stupid?

I think "just stupid" sums it up quite nicely. The theory is that if you support Barack he will suddenly love the jews who supported him and maybe even Israel. If not stupid, then just appallingly naive

134 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:17am

re: #125 WriterMom

Hard Right-you really don't need to apologize to me-it's not my blog...I think we've all had posts that we wish had a retreive button...it's a very tender subject and I certainly accept that you didn't mean any offence. Let's move on-there are so many other topics that require our attention.

:)

Thank you.

135 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:25am
136 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:30am

re: #124 Kragar (proud to be kafir),

It did bring out the best of Barry's Idiots :-)

137 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:43:37am

re: #123 irongrampa

Everyone should email FOX and tell them to get their s**t together or their ratings are going to fall, I do every chance I get!

138 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:44:29am

re: #78 kansas

Obama on the High Cost of Gas and Criticizing McCain for Advocating
Exploration in our own country.

"The question is whether we are going to offer the American people real answers and genuine relief or the same, tired Washington gimmicks and special interest favors that have failed our families and country for too long," the Obama memo states.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm on board with that. Really clears it up for me. Change I can believe in.

Just kidding. Actually, WTF does that mean?

Could he possibly be referring to the "same, tired Washington gimmicks and special interest favors"* perpetrated by the Democrats that have turned this energy problem into a major crisis?

*Failure to exploit our own resources, preventing the building of any refineries for the last 32 years with onerous regulation, and caving in to the enviro-lobby at every turn no matter the validity of their claims (Hey Greenpeace, you cry 'Wolf' one more time, I am going to develop a coal burning SUV).

139 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:44:52am

re: #106 'Nam Grunt

Why are Jewish folks supporting Obama?, even 1, don't they they realize he is out to destroy them?, or are they all just stupid?

Many are reflexive in voting for the guy with the (D) after their name. Doesn't matter who it is. And it will not matter that the guy panders to the hard left, would sell Israel out in a heartbeat, or whose flimsy grasp of US foreign policy can be summed up as a big fat zero unless he's got a prepared speech in front of him (and even then, it's still a zero).

140 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:45:02am

re: #137 'Nam Grunt

Everyone should email FOX and tell them to get their s**t together or their ratings are going to fall, I do every chance I get!

I wish we could get them to stop puting Puke-Cannon and Sharpton on all the time.

141 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:45:03am

re: #129 VegasRick

I pray that is all they do.

I still hope people do not vote for the 0 to prevent violence from his supporters. Let them show their colors

142 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:45:08am

re: #119 jcm

OT

Oh [deleted] [deleted]. From Rush...

James Hansen: Prosecute oil companies, top scientist says

Oh, the James "I get all my money from George Soros" Hansen?

143 dolfan  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:45:15am

re: #78 kansas

Washington gimmicks and special interest favors that have failed our families and country for too long

I just want to go on the record and say that the United States of American has NEVER let me nor my family down. Anyone else agree or am I alone on this?

144 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:45:22am

If Obama blew up a balloon his head would deflate. POS!

145 WriterMom  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:45:30am

re: #117 Peacekeeper

Please just make sure they DON'T come to Canada, as previously threatened...

146 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:46:05am

re: #123 irongrampa
"At this rate, the Internet is gonna wind up as the sole prime source of unbiased news for me.
There, fixed that for you (although I also recognize that the internet is not without it's own biases but at least you can read both sides of a story on the internet; no chance of seeing both sides in the MSM).

147 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:46:22am

re: #142 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Oh, the James "I get all my money from George Soros" Hansen?

I bought him! I own him! He's mine!
Soros off/

148 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:46:26am

re: #138 CyanSnowHawk

The same tired gimmicks? Like promoting ethanol? Yeah, that's real original.

Well, actually, what's original is that it's now seen as a significant reason behind the increased cost for corn products worldwide, and ethanol leads to worse mpg in vehicles.

149 elevenbravo1969  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:46:34am

re: #43 Kosh's Shadow

"I wonder if he's laundering Chinese money to give to the Obama campaign?"

I have wondered myself if there wasn't a lot of money from China, Iran, et.al. making its roundabout way into Obama's coffers...I believe the Clintons were pretty good at this.

150 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:46:50am

re: #142 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

No, the same James Hansen who rigged the numbers to say what he wanted them to say.

151 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:47:09am

re: #140 Hard Right

And that fat faced Beckel, Lord I would like to deflate him!

152 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:47:18am

re: #126 shropshire_slasher

This guy Obama is an open book, a useful idiot. I wonder who his puppet master is? I predict Obama winning though. Imagine the rapture in the media the first hundred days, ugh, I'm gonna lose my lunch/technicolor yawn/BUICK, etc.

George Soros.

He's the one in the blue shirt, sitting.

153 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:47:29am

re: #148 lawhawk

The same tired gimmicks? Like promoting ethanol? Yeah, that's real original.

Well, actually, what's original is that it's now seen as a significant reason behind the increased cost for corn products worldwide, and ethanol leads to worse mpg in vehicles.

Plus didnt a study show the exhaust emissions for Ethanol were worse for the enviroment?

154 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:47:32am

re: #119 jcm

OT

Oh [deleted] [deleted]. From Rush...

James Hansen: Prosecute oil companies, top scientist says

Off to the re-education camps with them!

155 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:47:48am

re: #141 SpartanWoman

I still hope people do not vote for the 0 to prevent violence from his supporters. Let them show their colors

I agree, if it is going to happen let it happen now. I would rather fight the fight than have my children fight it.

156 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:47:53am

re: #78 kansas

Obama on the High Cost of Gas and Criticizing McCain for Advocating
Exploration in our own country.

"The question is whether we are going to offer the American people real answers and genuine relief or the same, tired Washington gimmicks and special interest favors that have failed our families and country for too long," the Obama memo states.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm on board with that. Really clears it up for me. Change I can believe in.

Just kidding. Actually, WTF does that mean?

It was produced by the Obama Random Quote Generator: It's not supposed to "mean" anything.

157 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:48:19am

re: #119 jcm

OT

Oh [deleted] [deleted]. From Rush...

James Hansen: Prosecute oil companies, top scientist says

Soros' man.

158 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:48:27am

re: #150 lawhawk

No, the same James Hansen who rigged the numbers to say what he wanted them to say.

Actually, its the same guy. He rigged the numbers because of the money he got from Soros.

159 Shropshire_Slasher  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:48:28am

#148
I HATE ETHANOL!
Makes my Husqvarna chainsaw run like crap, takes me an extra minute to harvest my firewood.

160 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:48:38am

re: #128 Occasional Reader

Oh, well, if you think it's a crime, Doc, I guess we should go ahead and prosecute.

jcm: Didn't want to continue this on the Carlin RIP thread, but: Explain why you think the M&P Compact .40 is better than, say, a Glock 23. Just curious.

Glock doesn't fit my hand, purely personal preference. I have small hands, and to me Glocks have a "fat" grip. I took rented a Glock 27, MP Compact .40 and H&K 2000SP. The Glock I was all over the place, the MP first three rounds in a 1" group that was 2" low and left. The H&k was a little looser. I could learn to handle the Glock accurately, I've done it with others, but as a primary carry weapon I want something that's automatically comfortable. The H&K was $300 more than the MP.

161 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:48:46am

re: #151 'Nam Grunt

And that fat faced Beckel, Lord I would like to deflate him!

But then where would you put all the bovine waste?

162 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:48:52am

re: #145 WriterMom

Please just make sure they DON'T come to Canada, as previously threatened...

True, I favor sending them all one-way tickets to Iran.

163 ointmentfly  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:48:55am

Oh, isn't that precious... the democrats are being so inclusive. Even straight up communists are envited on the Obama train.....

164 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:49:28am
165 maddogg  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:49:45am

re: #117 Peacekeeper

IF Obamam loses there will be some pretty anguished little lefties running around.

And if he wins, we all lose.

166 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:50:37am

re: #117 Peacekeeper

IF Obamam loses there will be some pretty anguished little lefties running around.

Maybe we should air drop them into Cuba. They'll love the free healthcare.
/

167 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:50:44am

re: #160 jcm

I use a Ruger P944. A bit heavy, but comfortable.

168 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:50:50am

re: #164 rawmuse

9 were killed in the Bay Area this weekend.

They should not, however, be deprived of their votes for the 0

169 dolfan  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:50:52am

re: #117 Peacekeeper


They can join the folks down here who had to organize group therapy sessions when John Kerry lost in 2004.

170 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:50:54am
171 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:51:20am

re: #164 rawmuse

9 were killed in the Bay Area this weekend.

Pull the troops out NOW! Oh, wait....San Fran? But I thought....

172 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:51:22am

re: #106 'Nam Grunt

Why are Jewish folks supporting Obama?, even 1, don't they they realize he is out to destroy them?, or are they all just stupid?

Liberal Jews worship liberalism instead of G-d. They kept the part about making the world better, but forgot Who they were repairing the world for.

Thus, socialism and communism, which claim to be repairing the injustices of the world, are attractive to them.
However, those ideologies also reject G-d, and that is a large part of their downfall. Only He really knows what justice is; relying on humans to determine what is just and good ends up with those people declaring that it is good when they have everything, and the rest of the people are equal with nothing.

173 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:51:23am

re: #168 SpartanWoman

They should not, however, be deprived of their votes for the 0

Don't worry. They won't be.

174 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:52:11am
175 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:52:12am

re: #161 Hard Right

Deisel fuel!

176 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:52:31am

re: #168 SpartanWoman

They should not, however, be deprived of their votes for the 0

If they were in Chicago, that'd give them the right to vote Democrat, twice.

177 redheadredstate  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:52:33am

re: #172 Kosh's Shadow

Liberal Jews worship liberalism instead of G-d. They kept the part about making the world better, but forgot Who they were repairing the world for.

Thus, socialism and communism, which claim to be repairing the injustices of the world, are attractive to them.
However, those ideologies also reject G-d, and that is a large part of their downfall. Only He really knows what justice is; relying on humans to determine what is just and good ends up with those people declaring that it is good when they have everything, and the rest of the people are equal with nothing.

Don't think it is just Jews who do this. I know plenty of Catholics who have the same attitude.

/spit

178 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:52:38am

re: #168 SpartanWoman
I'm sure that the Obama machine will ensure that they get their votes counted.

179 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:52:46am

re: #160 jcm

Hm. I like Glocks, but I'll have to try the M&P if I get a chance.

180 VegasRick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:53:26am

bbl

181 ointmentfly  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:53:56am

re: #174 jcm

Something's up....
Seattle: Five dead in separate weekend shootings


Yeah, guns are running around killing peeps....

182 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:54:06am

re: #175 'Nam Grunt

Deisel fuel!

Excellent idea. He'd actually be useful for once in his life.

183 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:54:18am

Later Lizards. Celebrating my B-Day (44) today by staying home from work and cruisin around with my 7yo Son to pick up some games for the Nintendo DS the Wife got me. Head-2-head Mario Kart racing is on the schedule later. (He's gonna kick my *ss.)

Have a good one, I may drop by again this evening.

184 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:54:20am

re: #174 jcm

Something's up....
Seattle: Five dead in separate weekend shootings

And in restless Chicago as well:
6 killed in city, 3 in suburbs in weekend violence

185 pegcity  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:54:54am

re: #181 ointmentfly

Yeah, guns are running around killing peeps....

hey look at all those rockets in Israel randomly killing people, rockets and guns sure do love to kill.

186 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:54:56am

Part of me is afraid of exposing too much before the Dems lose the option of going back to Hillary. And part of me wonders if we are only scratching the surface.

187 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:54:59am

re: #183 CyanSnowHawk Hey, Happy Birthday to you! Hope you have a GREAT day with your son!

188 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:55:11am

re: #138 CyanSnowHawk

Could he possibly be referring to the "same, tired Washington gimmicks and special interest favors"* perpetrated by the Democrats that have turned this energy problem into a major crisis?

*Failure to exploit our own resources, preventing the building of any refineries for the last 32 years with onerous regulation, and caving in to the enviro-lobby at every turn no matter the validity of their claims (Hey Greenpeace, you cry 'Wolf' one more time, I am going to develop a coal burning SUV).

I want a nuclear powered SUV. I wouldn't worry about an accident, no one will come near it. And it will have plenty of power to lug around all the shielding it needs. I'll just have to avoid old bridges.

189 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:55:15am

re: #181 ointmentfly

Yeah, guns are running around killing peeps....

Must be some of those "smart guns" I've heard about. Damn you technology...DAMMMN YOUUUUUUU!

190 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:55:21am

re: #167 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I use a Ruger P944. A bit heavy, but comfortable.

Personally I advocate, comfort and shoot ability for a primary weapon. Its one thing to "work" at shooting on the range. You don't have the mental resource to make all the adjustments to weapon with a uncomfortable fit in a defensive situation.

191 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:56:21am

re: #186 RememberSekhmet? Although I NEVER thought I'd say this, I'd prefer Hillary to Obama as POTUS.
Course, I prefer McCain to either Hillary or Obama.

192 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:56:58am

re: #179 Occasional Reader

Hm. I like Glocks, but I'll have to try the M&P if I get a chance.

Purely personal preference. My favorites are H&K, they fit me like a dream, but ohhhh the price.

See my re: #190 jcm

193 realwest  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:58:08am

Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta go do some chores now.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

194 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:58:19am

re: #184 Honorary Yooper

And in restless Chicago as well:
6 killed in city, 3 in suburbs in weekend violence

Full moon was last Wednesday... couldn't be that.
/

195 pat  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:58:27am

Has it ever been confirmed that Obama had a (great) Uncle near Buchenwald?

196 ointmentfly  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:58:46am

re: #185 pegcity

Easy now....

Papers in the US running stories combining all the gun violence stories in an election year is meant to do one thing....

You will probably find that when the temps rise, so does gun violence, yet the papers will run these stories as if there is a new trend.

Far cry from rockets fired from Gaza.

197 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:59:24am
198 The Shadow Do  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:59:51am

re: #106 'Nam Grunt

Why are Jewish folks supporting Obama?, even 1, don't they they realize he is out to destroy them?, or are they all just stupid?

Short story, my MIL, 76 years old and Jewish, confessed a couple of years ago that she had voted R in the last election - the first time in her life. This weekend she and I were on the phone and were talking about some recent weather extremes and she said, I quote "I blame George Bush."

LOL! There is hope for change after all!

199 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 9:59:52am

I never thought I would ever say this but the IDF is acting like moonbats, instead of putting their Country 1st like the good old days, with the exception of the Mossad and SF's and IAF! Truly sad, I always used them for a bench mark of what an Army should be, like ours!

200 Boston Patriot  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:00:03am

And this is surprising...why? The left are socialists. Period. Unfortunately, we don't yet have a viable, secular, free-market capitalist candidate on the right. It will happen, though. Just give it time.

201 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:01:15am

re: #117 Peacekeeper

IF Obamam loses there will be some pretty anguished little lefties running around.

I sincerely and fervently hope so!
Couldn't happen to nicer people.

I'm seething because of the smears on John McCain - too numerous to detail, and of a stupidity wich is beyond belief - but as we all know, sling enough mud, and some will stick

202 vapig  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:02:10am

re: #31 jcm

I posted this on the weekend. The earth huggers celebrate at Stonehenge. Look at the ground in pics 1, 2, and 8.

Holy cow! What a bunch of pigs!

203 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:02:57am

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Holy shitsplats.

204 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:03:05am

Hey PK love to your family Bud! ;-)

205 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:03:51am

re: #153 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Plus didnt a study show the exhaust emissions for Ethanol were worse for the enviroment?

And now lefties like Paul Krugman are turning against ethanol. I just got my August issue of Car and Driver magazine on Saturday, and there are two excellent columns, by Csaba Csere and Pat Bedard, about gas prices, and ethanol. Unfortunately, they're not on the Web site yet.

206 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:03:56am

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Ball Girl Makes Incredible Catch
Impressive.

She's at Tacoma, the Mariners farm club.
Move her up the Mariners need HELP!

207 joncelli  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:04:02am

Okay Lizards, off for a week's vacation in the southwest (Vegas, Grand Canyon, Sedona, Phoenix). I'll probably be offline all week so goodbye and be nice to each other until next Monday.

208 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:04:37am

re: #202 vapig

Holy cow! What a bunch of pigs!

The irony is soooo delicious!

209 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:05:02am

re: #207 joncelli

Okay Lizards, off for a week's vacation in the southwest (Vegas, Grand Canyon, Sedona, Phoenix). I'll probably be offline all week so goodbye and be nice to each other until next Monday.

Bring me back a T-shirt!

210 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:06:00am

re: #206 jcm

If I'd been the outfielder, it'd have been the locker room after that humiliation.

211 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:06:04am

re: #208 jcm,

Was that Stonehinge, or a landfill? But they are Green, so it doesn't matter. Kinda like Al Gore and his power consumption at his house.

212 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:06:12am

re: #202 vapig

Holy cow! What a bunch of pigs!

Once the RoP assumes control of England, Stonehenge will go the way of the Buddhas at Bamiyan.

213 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:06:33am

re: #207 joncelli

Okay Lizards, off for a week's vacation in the southwest (Vegas, Grand Canyon, Sedona, Phoenix). I'll probably be offline all week so goodbye and be nice to each other until next Monday.

Sedona? You lucky dog! Have fun and be safe.

214 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:07:05am

re: #211 Iron Fist

,

Was that Stonehinge, or a landfill? But they are Green, so it doesn't matter. Kinda like Al Gore and his power consumption at his house.

Green? Are they green because they don't bathe?

215 Alouette  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:07:49am

re: #214 Ward Cleaver

Green? Are they green because they don't bathe?

Green is the color of their teeth.

216 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:08:11am

re: #215 Alouette

Green is the color of their teeth.

That too.

217 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:08:17am

Good news!
It looks like Olmerde will be out:
Labor Decides To Put an End to Olmert Government

(IsraelNN.com) The Labor party caucus decided a short time ago to back party chairman Ehud Barak and vote against the government Wednesday on a bill to dissolve the government. The decision effectively is the last nail in the coffin for the government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

I just hope Olmerde doesn't give away everything before he's gone.

218 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:08:28am

re: #215 Alouette

Green is the color of their teeth.

And formerly white underwear...for those that wear any.

219 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:09:27am

re: #217 Kosh's Shadow

Good news!
It looks like Olmerde will be out:
Labor Decides To Put an End to Olmert Government


I just hope Olmerde doesn't give away everything before he's gone.

YAYYYYYYYYYY!
I second that Kosh.

220 stevieray  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:09:39am

re: #164 rawmuse

re: #174 jcm

re: #184 Honorary Yooper

This may be a bit over-the-top, but I'm starting to think we are in the early stages of a black vs. latino race war. According to this op-ed from an L.A. sheriff, people are being killed not for wearing the wrong color, but for being the wrong color in the wrong neighborhood... but the government and media are in denial about it.

I really hope I'm wrong about this...

221 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:10:28am

re: #217 Kosh's Shadow

Good news!
It looks like Olmerde will be out:
Labor Decides To Put an End to Olmert Government

I just hope Olmerde doesn't give away everything before he's gone.


'Bout time! Who will take his place? Big Ben (Bibi), or someone else?

222 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:11:17am

re: #220 stevieray

re: #174 jcm

re: #184 Honorary Yooper

This may be a bit over-the-top, but I'm starting to think we are in the early stages of a black vs. latino race war. According to this op-ed from an L.A. sheriff, people are being killed not for wearing the wrong color, but for being the wrong color in the wrong neighborhood... but the government and media are in denial about it.

I really hope I'm wrong about this...

I hope you are, too.

223 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:11:41am

re: #220 stevieray

re: #174 jcm

re: #184 Honorary Yooper

This may be a bit over-the-top, but I'm starting to think we are in the early stages of a black vs. latino race war. According to this op-ed from an L.A. sheriff, people are being killed not for wearing the wrong color, but for being the wrong color in the wrong neighborhood... but the government and media are in denial about it.

I really hope I'm wrong about this...

That is nothing new. I've been chased out a neighborhood for being the wrong color. BTW, gang members dropped the colors thing years ago. They finally came to realize it was like wearing a bullseye.

224 dolfan  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:12:17am

re: #220 stevieray

I hope you're wrong, too.

225 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:14:32am
226 Dave the.....  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:14:42am

Here's a somewhat related topic.....was listening to left wing radio Saturday morning (good music programming). Lady hosting the show does a good job, but between a couple of tunes, she decided to go on a rant against President Bush.

".....and just this week he said that 'the war in Iraq was fun'. Well, I don't think....."

I thought that was an odd quote and really doubted it. Later that day, walked by a newspaper machine with the Onion in it. Headline said "Bush still thinks war in Iraq was 'fun'".

So that is what we are up against folks. Lefties who think the Onion is real and use that to attack Republicans.

227 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:15:31am

re: #220 stevieray

Well, we've had gangs and gang wars in Chicago for quite some time. When they had the projects, they'd claim buildings within entire complexes (Cabrini-Green is a prime example). Now, as an unintended consequence of tearing down the projects, the gangs splintered and invaded other neighborhoods. That may be what's behind the recent rise in crime statistics.

Although, I still want to know why there was a shootout on the Dan Ryan Expy last week.

228 jcm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:16:56am

re: #220 stevieray

re: #174 jcm

re: #184 Honorary Yooper

This may be a bit over-the-top, but I'm starting to think we are in the early stages of a black vs. latino race war. According to this op-ed from an L.A. sheriff, people are being killed not for wearing the wrong color, but for being the wrong color in the wrong neighborhood... but the government and media are in denial about it.

I really hope I'm wrong about this...

I think the issues is one of enforcement. LA has had a PC problem for awhile. Jack Dunphy at NRO is an LA cop, and well worth the read.

We have the beginnings of the same problem in Seattle. The political hierarchy is afraid of appearing in any way of racial bias in law enforcement. Instead of enforcing law, and going after CRIME the worry about the appearance of profiling. This filters down to cops at street level, instead of stopping and shaking down suspicion persons they worry about the potential of appearance of racial profiling.

229 Hard Right  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:17:08am

re: #227 Honorary Yooper

Well, we've had gangs and gang wars in Chicago for quite some time. When they had the projects, they'd claim buildings within entire complexes (Cabrini-Green is a prime example). Now, as an unintended consequence of tearing down the projects, the gangs splintered and invaded other neighborhoods. That may be what's behind the recent rise in crime statistics.

Although, I still want to know why there was a shootout on the Dan Ryan Expy last week.

The community center was already taken?
(sorry)

230 Roentgen  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:18:14am

re: #31 jcm

I posted this on the weekend. The earth huggers celebrate at Stonehenge. Look at the ground in pics 1, 2, and 8.

Ha-ha. Good one.
I visited Stonehenge back in the 70's, when it was completely open and not at all crowded. I'm sure any KozKids listening-in are jealous, but at that time we weren't holding hands and looking goofy.

231 bill-tb  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:18:16am

Comrade Obama's new church is Environmental Marxism.

232 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:18:31am

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

For a moment there, I thought you were referring to this.

233 Iron Fist  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:24:30am

re: #220 stevieray,

Color me unimpressed. This stood out:


But over a period of weeks, the participants overcame barriers by being exposed to those they were supposed to hate. They began to form friendships -- friendships that, in some cases, have lasted outside the jail walls.

Social networking for gangbangers? Jails tend to facilitate this to a degree, but this is something more deliberate. I'm not sure it is such a good Idea. Especially when coupled with this:

It's about more than just identifying problem areas and moving more police there. In fact, it is not a suppression model at all, but an intervention and prevention model aimed at ensuring that those who need social services get them.


Lemme guess. This sherrif is a Democrat. We're having a race war: send in the welfare! And then, it's not about gangs, but:


The unification of information, dispassionately collected and analyzed, will lead us toward a disarming of the gang culture. And through disarmament, we will make the streets safer.


It's the gang culture! And guns. Disarmament is better than locking up the thugs who are using the guns.

Yep. He's a Democrat.

234 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:25:00am
235 vapig  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:25:04am

re: #212 Ward Cleaver

Once the RoP assumes control of England, Stonehenge will go the way of the Buddhas at Bamiyan.

Yes - all things of Western history and civilization will be destroyed. They've already defaced much of the UK and the rest of Europe. I know there are no longer any gargoyles on the lamp posts in parts of London.

236 yma o hyd  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:26:22am

re: #217 Kosh's Shadow

Good news indeed - and about time, too!

237 Quilly Mammoth  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:28:29am

What's astounding, particularly in light of the February flap over a Che' flag, is the number of pro-Che' Guevara mentions _still_ on the website. Take this "community member" profile. Much love for Che' on her page!

"a deep-seated love and concern for a return to "being our brother's keeper", that I have not felt in American politics since the days of MLK, Jr., JFK, Bobby Kennedy, Che Guevara, and Cesar Chavez--incidentally, save for the latter, all of whom took a bullet for their visionary beliefs."

She finishes with this quote:


"...We must then begin to erase our old concepts and begin to draw closer and closer to the people and be increasingly aware. We must approach them not as before. We should not go to the people and say, 'Here we are. We come to give you the charity of our presence, to teach you our science, to show you your errors, your lack of culture, your ignorance of elementary things.' We should go instead with an inquiring mind and humble spirit to learn at the great source of wisdom that is the people." ---Che Guevara, On Revolutionary Medicine

Then there's this one, this one, this one, and on and on. Google "Guevara site:my.barackobama.com" and be amazed.

238 wannabuyaduck  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:31:08am

re: #227 Honorary Yooper

Well, we've had gangs and gang wars in Chicago for quite some time. When they had the projects, they'd claim buildings within entire complexes (Cabrini-Green is a prime example). Now, as an unintended consequence of tearing down the projects, the gangs splintered and invaded other neighborhoods. That may be what's behind the recent rise in crime statistics.


The current Atlantic has an article on this subject, focused on Memphis -- "American Murder Mystery," [Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

239 winston06  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:32:42am

i am fed up with these morons at Hussein's website... tsk tsk tsk

240 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:36:59am

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Ball Girl Makes Incredible Catch
Impressive.

Wasn't she bitten by a radioactive spider last week?
Wow.

241 opnion  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:38:40am

re: #151 'Nam Grunt

And that fat faced Beckel, Lord I would like to deflate him!

Beckel, is just too annoying. When the Reverend Wright thing broke, he came on with a panel & blubbering about how angry he was that this was the topic.
I love it when he finishes a segment & flashes his edgey peace sign.
He just looks like an old fool. Wait he is

242 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:39:14am

re: #215 Alouette

Green is the color of their teeth.

And the stuff under their toenails. (Ewwwwwwww!)

243 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:40:46am

re: #213 Hard Right

Sedona? You lucky dog! Have fun and be safe.


Man.. I love Sedona.. You have got to play golf there.. and there are neat little art shops to check out..
Have a wonderful time!

244 ladycatnip  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:41:52am

#226 Dave the...

So that is what we are up against folks. Lefties who think the Onion is real and use that to attack Republicans.

There is a distinct inability on the left to understand or "get" satire. It's also noteworthy when the left says hateful, and horrific things, like Alec Baldwin wanting to take the Henry Hyde family out and shoot them, they were "just kidding".

People full of hate are incapable of having a sense of humor.

245 Cygnus  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:43:40am

re: #226 Dave the.....

Here's a somewhat related topic.....was listening to left wing radio Saturday morning (good music programming). Lady hosting the show does a good job, but between a couple of tunes, she decided to go on a rant against President Bush.

".....and just this week he said that 'the war in Iraq was fun'. Well, I don't think....."

I thought that was an odd quote and really doubted it. Later that day, walked by a newspaper machine with the Onion in it. Headline said "Bush still thinks war in Iraq was 'fun'".

So that is what we are up against folks. Lefties who think the Onion is real and use that to attack Republicans.

Years ago there was a fundie group which quoted the Onion saying that Rowling wrote Harry Potter to recruit kids into Satanism and she was a Satanist herself. Crazy what some people will take seriously.

246 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:47:01am

re: #47 rawmuse

I played a jazz gig last night, there were some commies on the gig. They live in Berkeley. They talked about how nice Berkeley was before Rent Control screwed everything up. No kidding.

What a riot! They must be property owners!

247 jebster  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:51:11am

This falls into the category of "you are what you eat..."

248 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:52:46am

re: #78 kansas

Obama on the High Cost of Gas and Criticizing McCain for Advocating
Exploration in our own country.

"The question is whether we are going to offer the American people real answers and genuine relief or the same, tired Washington gimmicks and special interest favors that have failed our families and country for too long," the Obama memo states.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm on board with that. Really clears it up for me. Change I can believe in.

Just kidding. Actually, WTF does that mean?

The extra gibberish is gonna be expensive.

249 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 10:59:22am

re: #115 Honorary Yooper

True, Markos does at least delete diaries that go too far, or are Troofer diaries. There seem to be no such controls or moderation at MyBarackObama.

WTF were they thinking, having a practically unmoderated site (well, there is moderation, but the inmates have taken over the asylum) for a presumptive presidential candidate? It's beyond insane.

How do ya like all the diversity?

250 Edouard  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:03:25am

The best way to expose this epidemic of hate-America scumbaggery is exactly what LGF is doing. One here, one there, a few at a time on an ongoing basis.

An unceasing tide of aggressively anti-American shrieks and moans by these Obamaniac orcs can thus be demonstrated on Obama's official site all the way to November -- or until the so-called "site administrators" decide that it might just be in their best interests to shut down the community blog component of the site entirely.

251 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:07:04am

it is amazing how b.o. and his handlers don't think the anti-american bilge on his web site will matter to people.
great.
the arrogant, foolish soros' will keep the hateful dangerous rhetoric coming because he has no idea how most americans feel abt. their country.

252 rcris5  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:10:33am

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For a great bargain, try the Steyr M9/40. Nice fit, great shooter, I like the trigger. Triangle sight is unique and works great for natural line-up. CDNN Sports is practically giving them away.

253 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:10:57am

Sanitizing in progress ...

They just deleted her John McCain smear.

But the google cache lives.

254 Dotcoman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:15:08am

re: #64 calvin coolidge

Communism. Isn't that the concept that EVERYONE is a slave except for the party elite?


Yep, that's the one. Everyone's property of the State.

255 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:15:39am

re: #253 karmic_inquisitor

Sanitizing in progress ...

They just deleted her John McCain smear.

But the google cache lives.

For posterity ...

FACT SHEET: Military record of John Sidney McCain III
Both McCain III’s father and grandfather were Admirals in the United States Navy. His father Admiral John S. ”Junior” McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe - later commander of American forces in Vietnam while McCain III was being held prisoner of war.

His grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945. McCain III, like his father and grandfather, also attended the United States Naval Academy. McCain III finished near the bottom of his graduating class in 1958.

McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft

1 - Student pilot McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings.

2 - Pilot McCain III lost another plane two years later while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. ”Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral.

3 - Pilot McCain III lost number three in 1965 when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. McCain III radioed, ”I’ve got a flameout” and ejected at one thousand feet. The plane crashed to the ground and
McCain III floated to a deserted beach.

4 - Combat pilot McCain III lost his fourth on July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk combat pilot. While waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

5 - Combat pilot McCain III lost a fifth plane three months later (Oct. 26, 1967) during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam when he failed to avoid a surface-to-air missile. McCain III ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi. After being pulled from the lake by the North Vietnamese, McCain III was bayoneted in his left foot and shoulder and struck by a rifle butt. He was then transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

1973 New York Daily News labeled POW McCain III a “PW Songbird”
On McCain III’s fourth day of being denied medical treatment, slapped, and threatened with death by the communist (they were demanding military information in exchange for medical treatment), McCain III broke and told his interrogator, ”O.K., I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.” U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain.It was then that the communist learned that McCain III’s father was Admiral John S. McCain, the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific. The Vietnamese rushed McCain III to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents), a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs.

By Nov. 9, 1967 (U.S. government documents) Hanoi press was quoting McCain III describing his mission including the number of aircraft in his flight, information about rescue ships, and the order of which U.S. attacks would take place.

While in still in North Vietnam’s military hospital, McCain III gave an interview to prominent French television reporter Francois Chalais for a series titled Life in Hanoi. Chalais’ interview with McCain III was aired in Europe.

256 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:19:40am

re: #255 karmic_inquisitor

Continued ...

Vietnamese doctors operated on McCain’s Leg in early December, 1967.
Six weeks after he was shot down, McCain was taken from the hospital and delivered to a U.S. POW camp,

In May of 1968, McCain III allowed himself to be interviewed by two North Vietnamese generals at separate times.” May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain In August 1968, other POWs learned for the first time that John McCain III had been taken prisoner.

On June 5, 1969, the New York Daily News reported in a article headlined Reds Say PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral, “ . . . Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of United States Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner . . .” The Washington Post explained McCain III’s broadcast: “The English-Language broadcast beamed at South Vietnam was one of a series using American prisoners. It was in response to a plea by Defense Secretary Melvin S. Laird, May 19, that North Vietnam treat prisoners according to the humanitarian standards set forth by the Geneva Convention.”

In 1970, McCain III agreed to an interview with Dr. Fernando Barral, a Spanish psychiatrist who was living in Cuba at the time.

The meeting between Barral and McCain III (which was photographed by the Vietnamese) took place away from the prison at the office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations in Hanoi (declassified government document). During the meeting, POW McCain sipped coffee and ate oranges and cakes with the Cuban.

While talking with Barral, McCain III further seriously violated the military Code of Conduct by failing to evade answering questions ”to the utmost of his ability” when he, according government documents, helped Barral by answering questions in Spanish, a language McCain had learned in school. The interview was published in the in January 1970.

McCain III was released from North Vietnam March 15, 1973
In 1993, during one of his many trips back to Hanoi, McCain asked the Vietnamese not to make public any records they hold pertaining to returned U.S. POWs.

McCain III claims, that while a POW, he tried to kill himself.

McCain III was awarded “medals for valor” equal to nearly a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain III, the son of famous admirals, a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

“McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat,” explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon.
“Since McCain got 28 medals,” Bell continued, “that equals to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.”

For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and his collaborations with the enemy to become America’s POW-hero presidential candidate.

Uh huh. Thought so.

257 Dotcoman  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 11:26:13am

re: #253 karmic_inquisitor

Sanitizing in progress ...

They just deleted her John McCain smear.

But the google cache lives.

Wow! Why'd they ever delete that?

Aside from the fact that it got all Liberal'd up, and punctuated with buzzwords that clearly show the bias and lack of any sort of understanding of the military, the dangerous nature of naval aviation, not to mention; how the real world works.

258 kevinmumaw  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:26:53pm

Communists love Obama.

259 kevinmumaw  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:30:17pm

re: #28 CIA Reject

I visited the house where Trotsky was murdered in Mexico City. I believe it was an ice-pick to the noggin, but there was a hail of gunfire as well. I remember the bullet holes still in the walls. Of course the urban intelligentsia have turned it into a shrine of sorts.

260 eaglewingz08  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:38:08pm

With the soon to be departed, thank God, Olmerde, we have a preview of the probable Obamanation Administration's foreign policy. Selling the country's security out for empty promises in order to win applause from the world community that would just as soon see the extermination of the State of Israel. Thank Heavens that Labor and Shas have decided to euthanize this government before it could complete its deadly and dispicable plans.

As for Spartan, who 'wants a nuclear powered SUV. I wouldn't worry about an accident, no one will come near it. And it will have plenty of power to lug around all the shielding it needs. I'll just have to avoid old bridges,' some major Japanese Company (I believe its either Toshiba or Mitsubishi) has developed a radically new nuclear power plant that is so small it could power buildings or blocks, without the usual nuke wastes.

261 billhedrick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:38:10pm

all but the last one has been deleted as of now.

262 mattm  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:38:59pm

I suspect that this is still up their because of one of the following reasons:

a) Obama agrees with and supports these ideas
b) Obama may not agree wit it all but doesn't want to anger any potential voters

Either way, if he wins we are screwed. I suspect "a" more than "b"

263 billhedrick  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:44:02pm

I think it's
c) his webmasters have no idea what's going on until somebody points it out to them.

264 kevinmumaw  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 2:44:24pm

This is typical...the Bob Avakian Toolkit...it's a flyer you can print out (yay!) that advertises all his crap he is selling.

Complete with such illustrious titles as :

The Coming Civil War and Repolarization for Revolution in the Present Era - (Real page turner)

Phony Communism Is Dead...Long Live Real Communism!

and of course, that commie classic...

Democracy: Can’t We Do Better Than That?
- I think we have a new Obama campaign slogan.

With commies (all 11 of them) armed with tools like these, I think we need not worry about Comrade Bunny. They are quite unarmed.

265 corncat  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:15:47pm

An onion by any other name....

266 Paul  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:18:31pm

I encountered Bob Avakian in the late 70s when he was conducting a rally in Washington Square Park in NYC. Present were eight or nine Avakianites and some curious onlookers who came and went. Even the handful of cops nearby looked bored by it all. He did put up a lot of posters around the Greenwich Village; my favorite was his poster inviting the public to a "Smash the Seventies" 1980 new year's eve party....I didn't go.

Thirty years later and Avakian still runs his Jim Jones style zombie cult.

267 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 3:31:32pm

The Rev Comm post has been sanitized from the site.

268 avspatti  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 4:11:29pm

re: #78 kansas

Obama on the High Cost of Gas and Criticizing McCain for Advocating
Exploration in our own country.

"The question is whether we are going to offer the American people real answers and genuine relief or the same, tired Washington gimmicks and special interest favors that have failed our families and country for too long," the Obama memo states.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm on board with that. Really clears it up for me. Change I can believe in.

Just kidding. Actually, WTF does that mean?

Where DO they learn to use so many words signifying nothing?

269 avspatti  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 4:39:27pm

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Ball Girl Makes Incredible Catch
Impressive.

Rats! I always wanted to be a ballgirl. :)

270 We need G.C. Scott  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:14:58pm

"I just don't have any trust or faith in anyone who calls themselves a christian-they are some of the most hateful and vicious,cruel and spiteful ravenous greediest wolves on the planet,and with rare exception."

That occurred to me too recently at a church school fair when one of the cooks decreed a rationing of spaghetti sauce. Seriously, doesn't this remind one of the back benches of the mob circa the reign of Augustus,Caligula,Claudius,Nero?


"Had it not been for christians,there would have been no slavery in America and none of this kind of racism for us to deal with in the first place"


Slavery in the form of conquered tribes existed in both North America and Africa independent of any contact with certain(not all) "Christians who,as Christ prophesied,utilized his name and message as a vehicle toward personal gain.

Matthew 7:22-23

271 c&msdad  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 5:50:45pm

As I am a 42 year old Catholic I feel so guilty for something that I didn't do 400 years ago that to reclaim my soul I guess I have to vote for an empty suit who has no experience but is willing to change for the sake of change. And what could be more important than voting for someone who has no plan but still is willing to change.......wait as minute I still have a brain!

272 abba tov  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:34:30pm

only mccain can defeat osama & obama

273 pegcity  Mon, Jun 23, 2008 6:50:12pm

re: #255 karmic_inquisitor

fact sheet eh, i call bullshit


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