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Video: Sarah Palin on Social Issues

Politics | Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:23:47 pm PDT

Just as I’ve been writing for more than a month, she supports the teaching of evolution as “an accepted principle.”

Quote: “Science should be taught in science class.” (And that does not include “intelligent design.”)

UPDATE at 9/30/08 6:41:31 pm:

The video is way out of sync with the audio. Good work, CBS.

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1 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:24:24pm

Well there you go.

2 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:25:04pm

Science should be taught in science class.

and evolution taught in Church evolution class

3 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:25:40pm

Is there a..um..video?

4 LoFlyer  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:26:13pm

Arrr, this quote will get the deep six fast!

5 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:26:29pm

But Caribou Sarah wears weird lipstick!

/

6 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:26:52pm

MSM with fingers in ears "lalalalalalala...can't hear you...lalalalalalala"

7 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:27:09pm

Poll at PBS: Is Palin qualified to be VP? Here

Poll is even. I just voted.

8 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:27:14pm

re: #3 kevinmumaw

Is there a..um..video?

With firearms and wimins in Bikinis?

9 LoFlyer  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:27:20pm

re: #5 Truck Monkey

But Caribou Sarah wears weird lipstick!

/

And killed a moose! Yaar! Run for 'ye lives!

10 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:28:03pm

re: #9 LoFlyer

And killed a moose! Yaar! Run for 'ye lives!

Makes you wonder what she would do to blacks and jews doesn't it......

11 yesandno  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:28:31pm

And on the other hand:

A noted psychiatrist was a guest at a party and his host, Barak, naturally broached the subject in which the doctor was most at ease.

"Would you mind telling me, Doctor," Barak asked "how you detect a mental deficiency in somebody who appears completely normal?"

"Nothing is easier," he replied. "You ask him a simple question which everyone should answer with no trouble. If he hesitates, that puts you on the track."

"What sort of question?"

"Well, you might ask him, 'Captain Cook made three trips around the world and died during one of them. Which one?'

Barak thought for a moment, and then said with a nervous laugh, "You wouldn't happen to have another example would you? I must confess I don't know much about history."

12 coquimbojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:28:45pm

Science in science class....hmmm next thing you know she'll be demanding math in math class. I always knew she was weirod.

13 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:28:57pm

I heard she shoots Jews in ANWR from airplanes.

14 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:29:06pm

Thank you, Sarah. Indeed- we should have started drilling ten years ago. Thanks for nothing, democrats!

15 USCMSNE  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:29:11pm

re: #10 Truck Monkey

Makes you wonder what she would do to blacks and jews doesn't it......

Anathema is kind of vague? You'd think Congressman Hastings could at least slander with specifics.

16 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:29:40pm

Not Katie Couric!

17 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:30:02pm

re: #14 Sharmuta

Thank you, Sarah. Indeed- we should have started drilling ten years ago. Thanks for nothing, democrats!

I wouldn't have minded drilli........ er, never mind.

18 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:30:47pm

Video?

19 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:31:42pm

re: #8 Truck Monkey

Hell yeah!

20 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:32:06pm

re: #18 galloping granny

Hello granny,nice to see you.

21 Charles  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:32:10pm

Reload if you're not seeing the video.

22 n in wi  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:32:49pm

re: #17 Truck Monkey

POW/MILF 08

23 blangwort  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:33:44pm

Gee. She thinks science should be taught in science class. Next thing you know, she'll want math taught in math class, English taught in English class, History taught in History class, and God forbid she might ask for Geography.

The education bureaucrats will be beside themselves. They'll be out of a job. Who else is going to concoct all the silly excuses we have for education in this country?

I think she just lost the NEA vote. Not that I care...

24 coquimbojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:34:28pm

re: #22 n in wi

POW/MILF 08

I want that sticker!

25 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:34:57pm
Just as I’ve been writing for more than a month, she supports the teaching of evolution as “an accepted principle.”

PROOF THAT SHE IS A HARLOT OF BABYLON!


/

26 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:35:26pm

Is she on every night with Katie Couric?

27 mitthrawnurdo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:35:30pm

MAAATTTTT DAMON! still isn't convinced.

/just another Hollywood airhead.

28 LoFlyer  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:35:40pm

re: #7 USA

Poll at PBS: Is Palin qualified to be VP? Here

Poll is even. I just voted.

Haaar, she's a lot more qualified than Obama, much less Biden. Interesting that Biden is more qualified than Obama, hence the allegations that Obama is not qualified and using this election to get his "name in the cards" with no realistic expectation of nomination. In essence the MSM supported all news on Obama whilst suppressing positive news of Clinton resulting in Obama's flawed nomination. This is an extremely weak Democrat "ticket". MSM refuses to investigate serious issues with Obama while "pit-bulling" Palin.
/What? me worry? No sign of bias here.....

29 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:35:44pm

I loved her answer to Ms. Perky's question about newspapers. Just because it's Alaska doesn't mean they're not able to get the same sources the rest of the country gets.

30 Whiterasta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:37:29pm

re: #23 blangwort

History is SEXIST! Why is it not called HERSTORY?

I sh*t you not, my friends. I have heard the above line of BS spouted in our higher learning intstitues.

31 Charles  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:37:44pm

The video's way out of sync with the audio. Good work, CBS.

32 godfrey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:38:09pm

re: #25 Occasional Reader

Maybe a Marmot of Babylon. She's from Alaska.

33 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:39:18pm

re: #20 Oldasdirt

Hello granny,nice to see you.

Hey dirt! How're you tonight?

34 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:39:40pm

"I see the hand of God in this beautiful creation that is earth."

Nice!

35 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:40:05pm

re: #30 Whiterasta

History is SEXIST! Why is it not called HERSTORY?

I sh*t you not, my friends. I have heard the above line of BS spouted in our higher learning intstitues.

Of course. This line was invented in our institutions of higher learning.

36 gop_patriot  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:40:33pm

re: #31 Charles

The video's way out of sync with the audio. Good work, CBS.

Ha, I was just about to comment on that.

37 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:41:08pm

Sarah's pretty damn smart. Bring Willow along to keep Couric in check. Katie's a mom, there are certain things she won't ask a candidate in front of her own child.

38 shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:41:16pm
Gov Palin, what newspapers and magazines do you read?

I am soooo Sick of the gotcha questions.

What you will never hear Perky Couric ask :

Senator Obama, what books do you read?

Rules for radicals?

39 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:41:33pm

re: #32 godfrey

Maybe a Marmot of Babylon. She's from Alaska.

Marmot's very good, but I like Arcteryx better.

40 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:41:47pm

re: #33 galloping granny
Im real good tonight,,my aim was straight,and had many kills in our little online game.It's wonderfull to be a winner,if even in a game.

41 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:41:59pm
On Thursday night, she'll be live and unedited. This will be a change.

Certainly for CBS News, which has used the Edit button to chop out her intelligent responses to their inane questions even more often than they've used it to delete the One's "uh"s.

cheers

eon

42 n in wi  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:42:43pm

which movie will gross more;
Bill Mahar's "Religous"or "American Carol"

43 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:43:15pm

re: #30 Whiterasta

History is SEXIST! Why is it not called HERSTORY?

I sh*t you not, my friends. I have heard the above line of BS spouted in our higher learning intstitues.

I spouted in a history term paper. The professor kindly smacked me down.

44 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:43:44pm

re: #38 shug

Presidential Politics for Dummies.

Volume I -- The Amazing Properties of Bullshit

45 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:44:01pm

Is Katie Couric a shrew or what?

/dear God, please help John McCain and Sarah Palin turn the latest poll trends around so that they may save us from that which is looking like Obama by five

46 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:44:22pm

No matter.
It looks like the electorate is going to hand the 08 election over the corrupt democrats.

[Link: vodkapundit.com...]

47 joncelli  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:44:25pm

Keep science where it belongs and religion where it belongs: Good for her. Now I just hope she tells her handlers to take a 90-minute coffee break so she can debate her way. She's overcoached, and it shows.

48 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:44:50pm

re: #31 Charles

BTW, every time I post or refresh comments, the video stops and I have to start from the beginning. And frankly, I don't care enough about Katie's dumb questions to watch ten whole minutes without refreshing comments.

49 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:44:57pm

re: #41 eon

Certainly for CBS News, which has used the Edit button to chop out her intelligent responses to their inane questions even more often than they've used it to delete the One's "uh"s.

cheers

eon


They have to take out all the one's uh's and ah's and so.to get a 20 sec sound bite from a 20 min. speach.

50 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:45:00pm

re: #47 joncelli

Keep science where it belongs and religion where it belongs: Good for her. Now I just hope she tells her handlers to take a 90-minute coffee break so she can debate her way. She's overcoached, and it shows.

I agree. Overcoached.

Let her go and watch her shine!

51 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:45:26pm

re: #31 Charles

The video's way out of sync with the audio. Good work, CBS.

CBS was trying to invoke the image of Godzilla.

52 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:45:32pm

re: #30 Whiterasta

History is SEXIST! Why is it not called HERSTORY?

And why is it LITERATURE and not CLITERATURE?

/sorry

53 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:45:46pm

re: #40 Oldasdirt

Im real good tonight,,my aim was straight,and had many kills in our little online game.It's wonderfull to be a winner,if even in a game.

ROFL! That it is.

54 LEGION  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:45:51pm

re: #42 n in wi

Well my ticket money is going to American Carol- it's a pre election vote.

55 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:46:07pm

Hystery not History

56 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:46:10pm

No wonder Couric's ratings are low - she's a pathetic journalist. Her "gotchas" aren't even clever, she just dumps the Party Line right into the middle of a conversation. "Do you eat babies, yes or no?"

It's a wonder that Palin can remain gracious and straightforward in the face of such blatant hackery.

57 Whiterasta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:46:14pm

re: #31 Charles

The dinosaur media is out of sync with the rest of the world.....

58 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:46:18pm

re: #45 Killian Bundy

Is Katie Couric a shrew or what?

/dear God, please help John McCain and Sarah Palin turn the latest poll trends around so that they may save us from that which is looking like Obama by five

Amen.


Hard to do when the entire media machine is in the tank with Obama and the corrupt democrats.
[Link: vodkapundit.com...]

59 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:46:26pm

re: #37 doppelganglander

Sarah's pretty damn smart. Bring Willow along to keep Couric in check. Katie's a mom, there are certain things she won't ask a candidate in front of her own child.

Wanna bet?

/ends justify the means

60 n in wi  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:46:27pm

re: #54 LEGION

Well my ticket money is going to American Carol- it's a pre election vote.

Ditto

61 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:46:41pm

re: #21 Charles

Reload if you're not seeing the video.

Just finished it, she was very good.

62 right_in_canada  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:47:06pm

re: #16 MandyManners

Not Katie Couric!

Ya ! Heehee look a' me (bounce, bounce) Lil' Miss "Perky" Couric.

/wants to barf now,

63 Outrider  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:47:09pm

re: #42 n in wi

which movie will gross more;
Bill Mahar's "Religous"or "American Carol"

Looking forward to American Carol release on DVD! (don't do theaters)

64 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:47:23pm

I also really appreciated what Governor Palin said about homosexuals and not being one to judge them. I'm sure that has moonbats scratching their heads as it defies everything they think about the right.

65 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:47:53pm

re: #47 joncelli

She's overcoached,

Agreed. That is the precise word I used today to describe how she seemed in the first interview with Couric. She got this far without all the professional coaching. I say she is way more likable and convincing when she is simply herself.

66 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:48:22pm

re: #42 n in wi

which movie will gross more;
Bill Mahar's "Religous"or "American Carol"

Do they both open at the same time?

67 n in wi  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:49:17pm

re: #63 Outrider You save yourself about $8 and don't have to look for parking. Not to mention the luxery of the pause button to relive one's self.

68 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:50:09pm

re: #64 Sharmuta

I also really appreciated what Governor Palin said about homosexuals and not being one to judge them. I'm sure that has moonbats scratching their heads as it defies everything they think about the right.


I liked her reply too. totally genuine and I think this sums up the way most conservatives feel about the issue ( at least that's how I feel about it )

tangent

I am waiting for the day of the discovery of the "gay gene" or some such marker that can be obtained on routine prenatal genetic studies.

Can you imagine the conflict on the left the first day that a couple electively aborts a fetus because it's going to be gay.

69 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:50:54pm

re: #45 Killian Bundy

Is Katie Couric a shrew or what?

/dear God, please help John McCain and Sarah Palin turn the latest poll trends around so that they may save us from that which is looking like Obama by five

A month before the '04 election, they were crowing it would be Kerry by 6.

The day after, they were parachuting lawyers into Ohio to try to sue everyone who didn't vote the right way.

Thanks to the wisdom of our Founding Fathers in giving us the secret ballot, they had to settle for whining and calling us stupid.

I've got a feeling that this time around, if they lose, it'll be a much more dangerous form of tantrum.

As it stands, I'd say that the Obamatrons are panicking already- hence their legal thug squads' jackboot tactics, as with the NRA ads.

/if they were as sure as they claim to be in public, they'd be saving their yen to play stormtrooper until after they had the reins of power firmly in their grubby little protuberances.

cheers

eon

70 SCDave  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:51:15pm

re: #26 JammieWearingFool

Is she on every night with Katie Couric?

Would boost Katie's ratings

71 LEGION  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:51:24pm

re: #66 kevinmumaw

Religous- Oct. 2
American Carole- Oct. 3

72 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:51:51pm

re: #68 Shug

Can you imagine the conflict on the left the first day that a couple electively aborts a fetus because it's going to be gay.

Jonah Goldberg wrote about that possibility a couple of years ago.

73 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:52:43pm

Yahoo News is pimping the new W BDS movie.
Controversial trailer my ass. It's an excuse to pimp the biases of Yahoo news.

74 mitthrawnurdo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:53:01pm

re: #65 mich-again

She's being "over-coached" IMHO because the media's so in the tank for the "O", but I agree with both of you that she has to be herself to shine in the debate against Biden.

75 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:53:24pm

Is it just me or is Katie less perky and more smarmy?

76 Outrider  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:53:35pm

re: #67 n in wi

You save yourself about $8 and don't have to look for parking. Not to mention the luxery of the pause button to relive one's self.

And I don't have a bunch of idiots *talking on cell phones *talking with each other *reciting lines or giving spoilers *manchilds throwing popcorn *rolling cans down the aisle *babies crying (can't get a sitter?) *being puked on (yes that happened at a movie years back-Apocalypse Now if I recall, all over my back...and I'm the one that got tossed from the theater)

;-)>

77 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:53:44pm

re: #71 LEGION

Religous- Oct. 2
American Carole- Oct. 3

I will bet you 1 billion dollars American carol wins opening weekend.

78 sandspur  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:54:20pm

I can hardly wait to see Gwen Ifill's treatment of Sarah Palin in the upcoming debate.
/

79 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:54:25pm

re: #75 USA

Is it just me or is Katie less perky and more smarmy?

Haven't you heard, she is a serious journalist.

80 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:54:26pm

re: #75 USA

Is it just me or is Katie less perky and more smarmy?

No, not just you. The aging cheerleader shit was getting old so she opted for smarmy cum snooty

81 right_in_canada  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:54:37pm

re: #49 Oldasdirt

They have to take out all the one's uh's and ah's and so.to get a 20 sec sound bite from a 20 min. speach.


Would you even that much ? Hmmm....

82 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:55:08pm

re: #59 Truck Monkey

Wanna bet?

/ends justify the means

I haven't watched the whole thing, but I do think that might have been Sarah's thoughts in bringing Willow along.

83 joncelli  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:55:20pm

re: #75 USA

She's not doing the morning show anymore, and somewhere along the line she got the impression that morning = perky and evening = smarmy. But then nobody ever accused her of overthinking things.

84 LEGION  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:55:29pm

re: #77 kevinmumaw

I will bet you 1 billion dollars American carol wins opening weekend.

I agree with you and raise you 47thousand quatloos!

85 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:56:20pm

re: #69 eon

As it stands, I'd say that the Obamatrons are panicking already- hence their legal thug squads' jackboot tactics, as with the NRA ads.

Let 'em go ahead and play Thug with the NRA crowd. See what happens.

/we're prepared for this sort of thing. VERY prepared.

86 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:56:22pm

re: #69 eon

I agree completely.
with the kids' videos and the media how it is, it's like watching the creation of Mussolini or Adolph all over again, both of whom in the beginning were idolized by the media and hollyweird.
History repeats itself and moonbats are looking for their godman to worship.

In the movie "300"....doesn't Xerxes kinda remind you of Obama?
the man who would be god.

87 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:56:29pm

re: #37 doppelganglander

Sarah's pretty damn smart. Bring Willow along to keep Couric in check. Katie's a mom, there are certain things she won't ask a candidate in front of her own child.

To Katie, that is not a child. It's just an unaborted-fetus.

88 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:56:38pm

re: #56 Pawn of the Oppressor

No wonder Couric's ratings are low - she's a pathetic journalist. Her "gotchas" aren't even clever, she just dumps the Party Line right into the middle of a conversation. "Do you eat babies, yes or no?"

It's a wonder that Palin can remain gracious and straightforward in the face of such blatant hackery.

Actually, it's "Have you stopped eating babies?"

"Gotcha" questions are always phrased so that no matter what your answer is, you look like Evil Incarnate or The Biggest Moron on Earth.

As Heinlein said, the appropriate answer to such a question is really nothing more complicated than a punch in the snoot.

/which is why journalists love lawyers so much- or at least the ones who work for the journalists' employers

cheers

eon

89 right_in_canada  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:56:55pm

re: #68 Shug

I liked her reply too. totally genuine and I think this sums up the way most conservatives feel about the issue ( at least that's how I feel about it )

tangent

I am waiting for the day of the discovery of the "gay gene" or some such marker that can be obtained on routine prenatal genetic studies.

Can you imagine the conflict on the left the first day that a couple electively aborts a fetus because it's going to be gay.


Cover your ears!

The sound barrier is about to break due to the speed of libs going from "pro-choice" to pro-life now.

90 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:57:05pm

Don't know how the aging sorority girl from UVa get to pretend to be so brilliant, do you?

91 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:57:35pm

re: #76 Outrider

And I don't have a bunch of idiots *talking on cell phones *talking with each other *reciting lines or giving spoilers *manchilds throwing popcorn *rolling cans down the aisle *babies crying (can't get a sitter?) *being puked on (yes that happened at a movie years back-Apocalypse Now if I recall, all over my back...and I'm the one that got tossed from the theater)

;-)>

Jeez, you go to a really lousy theater. I'll admit, there are certain theaters around here I will not go to, especially the 10 o'clock shows on Friday or Saturday, because of the clientele.

92 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:58:06pm

re: #89 right_in_canada

Cover your ears!

The sound barrier is about to break due to the speed of libs going from "pro-choice" to pro-life now.

They will demand the Mother be charged with a hate crime

93 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:58:10pm

re: #73 FrogMarch

Yahoo News is pimping the new W BDS movie.
Controversial trailer my ass. It's an excuse to pimp the biases of Yahoo news.

So, any bets on just how badly this one will tank? :D :D :D

94 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:58:16pm

re: #87 USA

To Katie, that is not a child. It's just an unaborted-fetus.

I've got to say, that was really uncalled for.

95 LEGION  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:58:36pm

Heh, just saw An American Carol commercial on the end of H&C. New clip- funny.

96 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:58:37pm

re: #68 Shug

Can you imagine the conflict on the left the first day that a couple electively aborts a fetus because it's going to be gay.

Yikes. What a terrible thought. But closer to current reality, in the UN, they support abortion rights in general, but at the same time vehemently oppose the use of abortion for the practice of sex selection, which apparently happens on a grand scale in China. I don't really get that logic. If abortion is a truly a personal decision, then why should anyone question why that decision was made.

97 n in wi  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:58:57pm

Well, no Brewers/Twins World series.
Maybe Cubs/White Sox?

98 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:59:04pm

re: #89 right_in_canada

Cover your ears!

The sound barrier is about to break due to the speed of libs going from "pro-choice" to pro-life now.

Fetuses may not be aborted by race, creed or sexual preference. Woman must demonstrate "inconvenience"

99 Outrider  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:59:04pm

re: #69 eon

Thanks to the wisdom of our Founding Fathers in giving us the secret ballot, they had to settle for whining and calling us stupid.

Not so much anymore in certain states, the ones with the Touchscreen Computers. In every case I've seen or discussed with other people around the nation that use them, the rooms are always set up with the screens facing towards the lines of people waiting to vote. No privacy partitions or screens at all.

100 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:59:21pm

re: #69 eon

The day after, they were parachuting lawyers into Ohio to try to sue everyone who didn't vote the right way.

/Jungle Work

101 alien_mind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:59:25pm

wow! was she good or what? much more confident and relaxed than the other Couric interview. good sharp solid answers.

hope she brings that same game to the bout on thursday with the great plagiarizer.

102 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:59:49pm

I thought Ms Perky slipped at the end- she complained about how the McCain team is not allowing Sarah to be edited by the msm.

Uh, Your Perkiness? You just openly whined about not getting to manipulate your video. Don't think I was the only one who noticed.

103 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 6:59:54pm

re: #94 doppelganglander

I've got to say, that was really uncalled for.

Did you watch the video? Katie asks questions about 15 year olds aborting daddy's baby....

104 n in wi  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:00:38pm

re: #98 SpartanWoman

Fetuses may not be aborted by race, creed or sexual preference. Woman must demonstrate "inconvenience"

Could a conservative abort a fetus if it carried the "liberal" gene?

105 Outrider  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:01:54pm

re: #91 doppelganglander

Jeez, you go to a really lousy theater. I'll admit, there are certain theaters around here I will not go to, especially the 10 o'clock shows on Friday or Saturday, because of the clientele.

To be frank, I haven't been to a theater around here. Haven't been to any theater since the movie Apocalypse Now was showing. Daughter and neighbors are always complaining about the cell phones though.

106 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:02:08pm

After that first bit in the studio, I thought Couric was reporting from Tokyo about the rampaging giant lizard...

107 Scion9  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:02:20pm

re: #23 blangwort

History taught in History class

Dude, we don't even have a history class. It's "Social Studies" now. It has little to nothing to do with history.

108 jcm  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:02:31pm

I love the way she refuses to take the question on Couric's terms. She just won't bite.

109 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:02:35pm

re: #103 USA

Did you watch the video? Katie asks questions about 15 year olds aborting daddy's baby....

Exactly...what they don't do is give the statistics of oh, I don't know...the one time that happened.

Let's base everything on absurd hypotheticals shall we?

110 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:02:46pm

re: #89 right_in_canada
When I went back to college, I had to take a sex and gender class. Taught by a lesbian and when I posed that question to her you could see the wheels spinning. Gay/Lesbian groups say it is not a choice but that they are born gay/lesbian. So if they are 'born' there is a 'gay gene'.
One of my good friends, who is a lesbian, is very much pro-life. She and her partner were able to adopt 2 children that might have been aborted.

111 alien_mind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:02:56pm

re: #71 LEGION

Religous- Oct. 2
American Carole- Oct. 3

everyone go see American Carol. it will be like early balloting.
i hope this movie slams those other two.

112 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:03:26pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Actually, if you read Limbaugh's first book, he noted this.

113 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:03:29pm

re: #99 Outrider

Not so much anymore in certain states, the ones with the Touchscreen Computers. In every case I've seen or discussed with other people around the nation that use them, the rooms are always set up with the screens facing towards the lines of people waiting to vote. No privacy partitions or screens at all.

I've used a touchscreen voting machine here in DC, and it was situated to give the voter privacy. Anyone witnessing otherwise should contact the FEC.

114 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:04:00pm

re: #84 LEGION

I agree with you and raise you 47thousand quatloos!

I see your 47,000 quatloos and raise you 15 parsecs worth of Elbonian Ore.

115 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:04:37pm

re: #70 SCDave

Would boost Katie's ratings

Looks like Katie is trying to boost something else with that top she is wearing.

116 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:04:54pm

re: #104 n in wi

Could a conservative abort a fetus if it carried the "liberal" gene?

They all do.

(Think about it.)

117 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:05:32pm

OT

Senate to vote on rescue plan Wednesday

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

118 alien_mind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:05:42pm

re: #108 jcm

I love the way she refuses to take the question on Couric's terms. She just won't bite.

i love that too. she does not take the bait. i like her attitude.

119 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:06:15pm

re: #109 nightintheruts

Let's base everything on absurd hypotheticals shall we?

Yes yes. And don't forget that a handful of "Christians" who bomb abortion clinics are quite enough to make their entire Religion morally equivalent to Islam.

120 Outrider  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:06:24pm

re: #113 Occasional Reader

I've used a touchscreen voting machine here in DC, and it was situated to give the voter privacy. Anyone witnessing otherwise should contact the FEC.

Excellent! On the last four elections, I have raised (written) hell all the way from the local judge up to the FEC. Has had no impact on the last three elections setups. This time I've started raising cane before the election in order to give them plenty of time to get something going. And this is a Republican county mostly. I can't imagine trying to fight this issue in a Democrat county.

121 kaziggy2  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:06:46pm

I think she did great with Katie and I can only PRAY (opps am I allowed to say that?) that she does that well or even better on Thursday with the Gaffemola!

122 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:07:24pm

re: #98 SpartanWoman

Yeah, we laugh at something like that.

I would not put it past congress for one minute, not to fund some commission to look at it though.

123 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:07:49pm

re: #114 kevinmumaw

Just how do you obtain some of this Elbonian Ore? Evaporation?

124 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:07:59pm

Conservatism is socially acquired.

125 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:08:20pm
126 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:08:27pm

re: #55 Shug

Hystery not History

Look, the underlying idea to "herstory" is that women have been largely omitted from the history textbooks. And there is a huge amount of truth there. Let me give you just one example -

I recently got a book for the kiddo about Great Scientists. Published by DK. It contains biographies of 30 of the most important names in science, going all the way back to Archimedes. Two of them are women - Marie Curie and Dorothy Hodgkin. Lost in the clutter of the pages, relegated to a postage stamp size picture and a one sentence fine print description are -

Lise Meissner, discovered nuclear fission
Rosalind Franklin, did the x-ray crystallography which determined the structure of DNA (many scientists believe that she should have shared in the Cricks-Watson Nobel)
Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, USN - did the pioneering work in computer programming

All of these women's contributions were the equal of those of the men who "own" the pages they appear on.

127 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:08:58pm

re: #114 kevinmumaw

I see your 47,000 quatloos and raise you 15 parsecs worth of Elbonian Ore.

/call and raise one tribble

128 Idle Drifter  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:09:13pm

A little OT, but I just home from work with a message on my machine that has me concerned. Michelle Obama's prerecorded was telling me all about the importance of voting and how I could it from the comfort of my own home. It said they would send me a mail-in ballot. I'm kicking myself as I didn't finish the message because I became disgusted at the gesture since I prefer to vote in a booth and I don't like pressure messages that sound a little fishy. My question is this: Can anyone send me a mail in ballot without my requesting one?

129 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:09:20pm

re: #86 nightintheruts

I agree completely.
with the kids' videos and the media how it is, it's like watching the creation of Mussolini or Adolph all over again, both of whom in the beginning were idolized by the media and hollyweird.
History repeats itself and moonbats are looking for their godman to worship.

In the movie "300"....doesn't Xerxes kinda remind you of Obama?
the man who would be god.

One of my favorite scenes from 300 is when the Persian ambassador comes to Sparta demanding soil and water as the Spartans' acknowledgement of Xerxes' rule.

My first thought was, "Oh, so that's where the Gaia cultists I have to put up with today got the whole 'worshiping dirt' thing."

The comparison of Obama to Xerxes is a good point. Both were men of little actual accomplishment (Xerxes inherited his throne and empire from Darius I, Obama got it by playing the game by the Big Boys' rules), who were raised in hothouse political cultures (the Persian court and Cook County), who considered themselves to be divine, and who demanded and got worship from their subjects, who regarded them as demigods.

And I suspect that in the end, Obama will find himself with a deeper understanding of how Xerxes felt after Plataea in 479 BC.

cheers

eon

130 jorline  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:09:57pm

re: #110 newsjunkie_ky

When I went back to college, I had to take a sex and gender class. Taught by a lesbian and when I posed that question to her you could see the wheels spinning. Gay/Lesbian groups say it is not a choice but that they are born gay/lesbian. So if they are 'born' there is a 'gay gene'.
One of my good friends, who is a lesbian, is very much pro-life. She and her partner were able to adopt 2 children that might have been aborted.

nj...great looking Pek. Looks just like a Pekingese we had in our family for 16 years.

131 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:10:34pm

re: #128 Idle Drifter

How about some acorn's instead?

132 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:10:39pm

re: #119 mich-again

Yes yes. And don't forget that a handful of "Christians" who bomb abortion clinics are quite enough to make their entire Religion morally equivalent to Islam.


I know, right? It's frustrating because they attempt mass mind control with crap like that.

I'll never forget though...the 9/11 concert thing. Richard Gere came out in front of New York and stated we shouldn't hate them but show them love and try to understand them better.
Bodyguards had to escort him off the stage. Priceless.

133 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:11:01pm

If you don't acquire conservatism through socialization, you end up parading with giant papier mache puppets and demanding someone else take care of you.

134 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:11:04pm

re: #126 galloping grannyFrom the movie"Braveheart"
History was written by men who have hanged hero's.

135 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:11:24pm

re: #104 n in wi

Could a conservative abort a fetus if it carried the "liberal" gene?

Lib is nurture not nature.

136 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:11:25pm

Good evening.

The Chicago White Sox are in the playoffs, by the skin of their teeth, and th market today went up 5%. A good day all around.

Overseas the Nikkei exchange is up about 1%. Looks like the FDIC insurance cap will get raise, and Cos with the SEC is finally looking aw waiving the mark to market requirement.

Look for the Senate to pass a bill on the market situation sometime tomorrow night

137 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:11:55pm

re: #126 galloping granny

Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, USN Fascinating. Inspired me to learn COBOL, albeit 4 years after hearing her speak while I was still in the Navy.

138 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:12:35pm

Here is the latest email spam McCain hit piece, probably sent to me by mistake.

MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN

by Mary-Kay Gamel

It was just before John McCain's last run at the presidential
nomination in 2000 that my husband and I vacationed in Turtle Island
in Fiji with John McCain, Cindy, and their children, including Bridget
(their adopted Bangladeshi child).
It was not our intention, but it was our misfortune to be in close
quarters with John McCain for almost a week, since Turtle Island has a
small number of bungalows and their focus on communal meals force all
vacationers who are there at the same time to get to know each other
intimately.
He arrived at our first group meal and started reading quotes from a
pile of William Faulkner books with a forest of Post-Its sticking out
of them. As an English Literature major myself, my first thought was
"if he likes this so much, why hasn't he memorized any of it yet?" I
soon realized that McCain actually thought we had come on vacation to
be a volunteer audience for his "readings" which then became a regular
part of each meal. Out of politeness, none of the vacationers
initially protested at this intrusion into their blissful holiday, but
people's buttons definitely got pushed as the readings continued day
after day.
Unfortunately this was not his only contribution to our mealtime
entertainment. He waxed on during one meal about how Indo-Chine women
had the best figures and that our American corn-fed women just
couldn't meet up to this standard. He also made it a point that all of
us should stop Cindy from having dessert as her weight was too high
and made a few comments to Amy, the 25 year old wife of the
honeymooning couple from Nebraska, that she should eat less as she
needed to lose weight.
McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that
David, the American economist, had to move his Thai wife to the other
side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting
with and touching her.
Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his rude behavior
towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some
redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from
Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was
shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea - I didn't have anything to do
with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me.
You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing
around in a shopping cart in Arizona . No, it wasn't my idea at all.
I actively avoided McCain after that, but unfortunately one day he
engaged me in a political discussion which soon got us on the topic of
the active US bombing of Iraq at that time [i.e., Clinton era policing
of no-fly zone]. I was shocked when he said, "If I was in charge, I
would nuke Iraq to teach them a lesson". Given McCain's personal
experience with the horrors of war, I had expected a more balanced
point of view. I commented on the tragic consequences of the nuclear
attacks on Ja pan during WWII
-- but no, he was not to be dissuaded. He went on to say that, if it
were up to him, he would have dropped many more nuclear bombs on
Japan. I rapidly extricated myself from this conversation as I could
tell that his experience being tortured as a POW didn't seem to have
mellowed out his perspective, but rather had made him more aggressive
and vengeful towards the world.
(continued)

139 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:12:52pm

re: #128 Idle Drifter

Can anyone send me a mail in ballot without my requesting one?

In a word, no. You the voter have to request the absentee ballot.

The crooked Township clerk in my locale got busted for mass-mailing out absentee ballots during a nasty recall campaign a few years back. Low and behold, she supported the recall of her political enemies who were being targeted.

Of course she claimed it was an honest mistake and nothing ever came of her malfeasance. Did I mention she is a dyed in the wool Demonrat?

140 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:12:55pm

re: #123 Cap'n DOC

Just how do you obtain some of this Elbonian Ore? Evaporation?

It's under the mud.

Then again, so is everything else in Elbonia.

141 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:13:01pm

re: #130 jorline
My Little Meggie passed away yesterday. I'm still in the grieving process.
Listening to Rush from today's show and reading LGF is sure helping this evening.
Meg is a pek-a-poo but does look more like the Pekingese than the poodle. I swear I can't see any poodle in her.

142 Maui Girl  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:13:04pm

re: #23 blangwort

The problem is, there are so many liberal wingnut teachers in the system now that they have a tendency to teach their views in whatever class they are in, whether it's math or music or social studies. Her statement is perfectly fine. Hmmmph!

143 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:13:30pm

Part II
My final encounter with McCain was on the morning that he was leaving
Turtle Island. Amy and I were happily eating pancakes when McCain
arrived and told Amy that she shouldn't be having pancakes because she
needed to lose weight. Amy burst into tears at this abusive comment. I
felt fiercely protective of Amy and immediately turned to McCain and
told him to leave her alone. He became very angry and abusive towards
me, and said, "Don't you know who I am." I looked him in the face and
said, "Yes, you are the biggest asshole I have ever met" and headed
back to my cabin. I am happy to say that later that day - when I
arrived at lunch - I was given a standing ovation by all the guests
for having stood up to McCain's bullying.
Although I have shared my McCain story informally with friends, this
is the first time I am making it public. I almost did so in 2000, when
McCain first announced his bid for the Republican nomination, but it
soon became apparent that George Bush was the shoo-in candidate and so
I did not act then. However, now that there is a very real possibility
that McCain could be elected as our next president, I feel it is my
duty as an American citizen to share this story. I can't imagine a
more scary outcome for America than that this abusive, aggressive man
should lead our nation. I have observed him in intimate surroundings
as he really is, not how the media portrays him to be. If his
attitudes toward women and his treatment of his own family are even a
small indicator of his real personality, then I shudder to think what
will happen to America were he to be elected as our President.
--
Mary-Kay Gamel
Professor of Classics, Comparative Literature, and Theater Arts Cowell
College University of California, Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California

144 WhiteRasta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:13:38pm

re: #126 galloping granny

I agree 100% with you. At least you are presenting a rational arguement, backed up with facts and truth.

I resent the shrill left's screeching man-hatred and general bat-shattery.

145 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:13:44pm

re: #109 nightintheruts

Exactly...what they don't do is give the statistics of oh, I don't know...the one time that happened.

Let's base everything on absurd hypotheticals shall we?

I wouldn't say once, but this is very very rare.

146 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:14:19pm

re: #135 SpartanWoman

Lib is nurture not nature.

I was just arguing the opposite, actually.

We're all born liberals, but some of us grew up.

147 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:14:22pm

re: #99 Outrider

Not so much anymore in certain states, the ones with the Touchscreen Computers. In every case I've seen or discussed with other people around the nation that use them, the rooms are always set up with the screens facing towards the lines of people waiting to vote. No privacy partitions or screens at all.

We have them in Ohio. They are set up exactly the way our old punch-card system booths were. And they are set up so that no one at the desk, or even the next booth, can see what you're doing.

I could write-in Mickey Mouse for County Auditor, and The Seven Dwarves for County Commissioners, and no one would know I was the one who did it.

/And considering what prize A-holes our auditor and commissioners are, it's very tempting

cheers

eon

148 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:14:23pm

Desperation is setting in on the BHO camp.

149 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:14:24pm

re: #128 Idle Drifter

A little OT, but I just home from work with a message on my machine that has me concerned. Michelle Obama's prerecorded was telling me all about the importance of voting and how I could it from the comfort of my own home. It said they would send me a mail-in ballot. I'm kicking myself as I didn't finish the message because I became disgusted at the gesture since I prefer to vote in a booth and I don't like pressure messages that sound a little fishy. My question is this: Can anyone send me a mail in ballot without my requesting one?

I would do my dangest to record that message and then I would file a complaint with the FCC, the FEC and your state Attorney General.

150 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:14:46pm

re: #126 galloping granny

Hystery referring to the Uterus.... I think that's a cooler way of saying Herstery and since I just invented it, I like it even more

151 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:14:46pm

Interesting poll at Greta Sustern's site

Do you think the media has already made up its mind on whether Gov. Palin will win or lose the debate?

Greta's Poll

152 Maui Girl  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:15:40pm

re: #45 Killian Bundy

I noticed a change in Couric's demeanor the minute she started asking the abortion issue questions. She really starting getting ugly in the face when Sarah wouldn't give her a straight answer regarding the Morning After pill. Old Katie probably used them more than once in her lifetime.

153 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:15:41pm

re: #135 SpartanWoman

Lib is nurture not nature.

Amen!
I'm gonna make sure my 3 month old granddaughter becomes a conservative. Her mom (my daughter who was indoctrinated in college) is nearly a moonbat.

154 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:16:10pm

re: #137 Cap'n DOC

Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, USN Fascinating. Inspired me to learn COBOL, albeit 4 years after hearing her speak while I was still in the Navy.

She has inspired more than a few. One thing I did not notice about that book until I was just posting that bit - there is not a single male illustrated as a postage stamp on someone else's page.

155 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:16:54pm

re: #117 Walter L. Newton

There are going to be a lot of pissed off taxpayers in a bit. Because of the bs that Pelosi pulled, they didn't get a chance to move the AMT amounts, etc. If you do your taxes with one of the programs around, it will usually do it for you and have your taxes right based on your inputs. But if you do it by hand and are not used to the AMT, you may well get some greetings from Uncle in a year or two saying that you owe them more money with interest.

156 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:17:01pm

re: #148 rawmuse

Desperation is setting in on the BHO camp.

They think Biden's going to do that badly, huh?

157 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:17:22pm

Internet polls are useless, but one that asks who won a debate are particularly stupid.

158 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:17:28pm

re: #153 newsjunkie_ky

Amen!
I'm gonna make sure my 3 month old granddaughter becomes a conservative. Her mom (my daughter who was indoctrinated in college) is nearly a moonbat.

It is an indoctrination process. I resisted this in college, but will admit to lefting up my papers for good grades

159 joecitizen  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:17:48pm

re: #52 Occasional Reader

And why is it LITERATURE and not CLITERATURE?

/sorry

I majored in Cliterature..it has served me well///

160 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:18:08pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

I swear I can't see any poodle in her.

I see the poodle, it's the eyes.

/I know those eyes, I was bitten by them as a child many times, poodles are easy to aggravate

161 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:18:36pm

re: #138 rawmuse

That is complete BS. I would go after the person that emailed that filth to you.

162 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:18:42pm

re: #93 NomadOfNorad

So, any bets on just how badly this one will tank? :D :D :D


Except for ivory tower bubble dwelling elitist hollywood a-holes, Even the BDS sufferers are sick of their own sickness.

163 Gorgon Zola  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:18:45pm

couric is a hungry maggot sniffing about for a bit of decayed meat,,

164 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:18:50pm

re: #151 CynicalConservative

Interesting poll at Greta Sustern's site

Do you think the media has already made up its mind on whether Gov. Palin will win or lose the debate?

Greta's Poll

WOWeeeee! 98% to 2%.

Guess everyone thinks the media is turbo-objective

165 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:19:09pm

re: #143 rawmuse
I think she may be an Obama supporter.

166 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:19:16pm

re: #161 newsjunkie_ky

That is complete BS. I would go after the person that emailed that filth to you.

I work for him sometimes. Yes.

167 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:19:45pm

re: #157 mich-again

Internet polls are useless, but one that asks who won a debate are particularly stupid.

I agree completely. The one I posted was fun for me in that it plays into the O' media bias we see every day.

168 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:20:00pm

re: #159 joecitizen

Aw... The Huwomanities. Would that be a Major or Minor?

169 WindHorse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:20:16pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

Newsjunkie.... my heart goes out to you. Your good friend is now running through fields full of flowers, and the sun is shining.... and she is happy.

Hang in there.

170 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:20:18pm

re: #96 mich-again

Yikes. What a terrible thought. But closer to current reality, in the UN, they support abortion rights in general, but at the same time vehemently oppose the use of abortion for the practice of sex selection, which apparently happens on a grand scale in China. I don't really get that logic. If abortion is a truly a personal decision, then why should anyone question why that decision was made.

Because, beyond their usual skills at foresight, they actually understand what happens when there is a significant imbalance in the M/F birth ratio on the M side.

171 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:20:27pm

re: #129 eon


quite right.

We've already seen 0bama's wicker shield/presidential shield.

And Xerxes was so puffed up with himself in the last naval battle he believed he could win even with the weather against him. (Of course his advisors were whispering in his ear...)
But...0bama can calm the seas, so he is greater yes?

172 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:20:44pm

re: #164 SpartanWoman

WOWeeeee! 98% to 2%.

Guess everyone thinks the media is turbo-objective

Wonder what results you'd get a CNN (blech) or PMSNBC (double blech)...

173 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:20:47pm

Didn't get a chance to read through the "October Surprise" thread. What was the final read on that? I wouldn't put anything past the Dems at this point.

174 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:21:29pm

re: #163 Gorgon Zola

couric is a hungry maggot sniffing about for a bit of decayed meat,,

Oh, ick. Well, accurate. But, ick.

175 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:21:39pm

re: #157 mich-again

Internet polls are useless, but one that asks who won a debate are particularly stupid.

No they are NOT useless

-- Ron Paul

176 jorline  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:21:41pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

My Little Meggie passed away yesterday. I'm still in the grieving process.
Listening to Rush from today's show and reading LGF is sure helping this evening.
Meg is a pek-a-poo but does look more like the Pekingese than the poodle. I swear I can't see any poodle in her.

I'm sorry to hear about your loss...it is like losing a family member. We got our Pek when my sister was six...died when she was 22 and broke my sisters heart, she did everything with that dog.

Best advice I can give...get another one as soon as possible...cuts the pain and you'll smother it with love.

177 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:21:48pm

re: #172 CynicalConservative

Wonder what results you'd get a CNN (blech) or PMSNBC (double blech)...

Same ratio, reversed.
What surprises me is the ratio of conservatives that watch Greta.

178 jaunte  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:21:57pm

re: #166 rawmuse

That b.s. Turtle Island report is getting a lot of circulation. Here it is again:
[Link: www.ireport.com...]

179 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:22:01pm

Great news on the nature/nurture thing: My kid just sent me a link from Rush Limbaugh (patting myself on the back)!

180 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:22:30pm

re: #175 Shug

No they are NOT useless

-- Ron Paul

Normally I'd say 2 points, alas I have but one ding to give...

181 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:22:59pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

So sorry to hear about the loss of your beloved dog. {newsjunkie_ky}

182 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:23:04pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

terribly sorry to hear that.

183 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:23:04pm

re: #143 rawmuse
google her name and title and you will see her email address.

184 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:23:05pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.

When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge.
There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together.
There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by.
The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.

They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....

Anon.

185 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:23:33pm

re: #164 SpartanWoman

WOWeeeee! 98% to 2%.

Guess everyone thinks the media is turbo-objective

OMG. I know it's Fox, but there are over 14k votes on that poll. You don't suppose that someone figured out how to game it, do you? Or maybe the Paulbots got bored?

186 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:24:22pm

Finally, after weeks of a bunch of us pounding on this issue in every outlet possible, Cox at the SEC woke up:

SEC gives banks more leeway on mark-to-market

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. securities regulators on Tuesday gave the financial industry a reprieve from marking hard-to-value assets down to fire sale prices, throwing a lifeline to an industry beset by strained credit markets and the latest round of bank failures.

The U.S. stock market added to gains on the news, in hopes that regulators' new interpretation of fair value, or mark-to-market, accounting rules, will slow or reverse the heavy flow of mortgage-related losses on banks' balance sheets.

In the new guidance, first reported by Reuters, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission reminded financial services firms that they don't need to use fire sale prices when evaluating their hard to price assets.

"This is a significant first step and adds stability, confidence, and liquidity within the capital markets," said Steve Bartlett, president and chief executive of The Financial Services Roundtable. "By clarifying how to treat assets in an uncertain market, the SEC is continuing to provide transparency to investors and helping institutions to provide credit in periods of market stress."

U.S. accounting rule maker, the Financial Accounting Standards Board said on its Web site on Tuesday that it would change the agenda for its Wednesday meeting to focus on fair value accounting. The board is contemplating issuing additional guidance through a FASB staff position as soon as Wednesday, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Thankfully this is finally happening. This frees up hundreds of billions of encumbered capital on the banks books and should (along with the FDIC coverage increase) go a long way toward easing the credit situation. All FASB has to do is shift to net present value. This is not that hard.

187 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:24:27pm

re: #139 mich-again

In a word, no. You the voter have to request the absentee ballot.

The crooked Township clerk in my locale got busted for mass-mailing out absentee ballots during a nasty recall campaign a few years back. Low and behold, she supported the recall of her political enemies who were being targeted.

Of course she claimed it was an honest mistake and nothing ever came of her malfeasance. Did I mention she is a dyed in the wool Demonrat?

Our Secretary of State , Miss Brunner (intentional Jerry Cornelius ref), has been bombing everyone's mailboxes with absentee ballot applications for the last month. She claims that everyone should vote absentee in every election, and we should abolish polling places altogether.

I suspect so that she is spared the embarassment of people showing up at the polls on Election day only to be told, "Sorry, you'll have to fill out a provisional ballot because our records show you've already voted absentee."

/for a straight Democratic ticket, of course

I'm looking for dirty tricks on Chicago levels in this state on Election Day, especially in Hamilton Co. (Cincinnati area), which the Dems believe have enough votes to let them blow off the other 87 counties and still win Ohio's 23 Electoral College votes.

cheers

eon

188 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:24:34pm

re: #173 Noam Sayin'

Didn't get a chance to read through the "October Surprise" thread. What was the final read on that? I wouldn't put anything past the Dems at this point.

I didn't either but that's an avalanche of lawsuits waiting to happen. If he actually dies that's one thing, bait and switch chicanery at this point is quite another.

/absentee voting has already started

189 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:24:38pm

re: #151 CynicalConservative

Interesting poll at Greta Sustern's site

Do you think the media has already made up its mind on whether Gov. Palin will win or lose the debate?

Greta's Poll


98% YES.

190 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:24:43pm

re: #183 newsjunkie_ky

google her name and title and you will see her email address.

I have it already. I did not publish it because I have a thread of common courtesy, and it may be a violation of the Lizard code. I do not know if she is even a real person. UC Santa Cruz = moonbat rich territory.

191 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:24:53pm

re: #143 rawmuse

Now Ms. Gamel (snicker -- it means -- yes -- camel in Arabic) wouldn't be lying would she? She wouldn't be one of those win at any cost Obamatrons would she? I mean this is just her altruistic way of stopping McCain right?

But if she was really serious she would call the MSM! Get he own interview with Katie! Cry her eyes friggin' out that WE CAN NOT ELECT SUCH A HORRIBLE PIG TO BE PRESIDENT! She would get some of that G. Soros money and post B-Grade actor depictions on Youtube and file signed affidavits in state court asserting that, yes all of this by God is true.

...

It's camel spit. Enough said.

192 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:25:20pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

My Little Meggie passed away yesterday. I'm still in the grieving process.
Listening to Rush from today's show and reading LGF is sure helping this evening.
Meg is a pek-a-poo but does look more like the Pekingese than the poodle. I swear I can't see any poodle in her.

I'm so sorry for you. We lost our little Lily last fall and we still miss her. Not too long before she passed, she brought home a gangly, awkward half grown male with a wounded paw. We took care of his paw and Lily taught him manners - how to sit on the fence and wait nicely for chicken on BBQ night, how to get in the door, not to pee in the house. Mr. Boots has never quite moved in, but he eats here twice a day and is finally starting to sleep in the house instead of under it. Two days ago he got hit by a car - and my poor daughter (Lily's personal servant) was devastated. Luckily, the lady behind the guy who hit Boots loaded him into her car and ran him back up the road to the Vet. Boots will be coming home tomorrow.

193 gop_patriot  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:25:27pm

re: #138 rawmuse

but decided he must have some
redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from
Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was
shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea - I didn't have anything to do
with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me.
You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing
around in a shopping cart in Arizona
. No, it wasn't my idea at all.

Wow. That whole letter is bad, but the bolded sentence above is the biggest pile of horsesh*t I've read lately from any leftist loser, and that's saying something.

Holy cow. Really, there is no way, even if McCain felt that way, that he would ever be so stupid as to say it out loud or in public. Gah.

194 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:25:53pm

re: #176 jorline

I'm sorry to hear about your loss...it is like losing a family member. We got our Pek when my sister was six...died when she was 22 and broke my sisters heart, she did everything with that dog.

Best advice I can give...get another one as soon as possible...cuts the pain and you'll smother it with love.


Yup. Been there, done that. Four times.
Second thing I'd do is get something you don't expect to "live up to" or "be like" the original.
Always a big disappointment if you do that. Dogs are different just like humans and cats.

195 Griffon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:26:25pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

My Little Meggie passed away yesterday. I'm still in the grieving process.
Listening to Rush from today's show and reading LGF is sure helping this evening.
Meg is a pek-a-poo but does look more like the Pekingese than the poodle. I swear I can't see any poodle in her.

I'm so sorry for your loss of Meggie. It is so hard to part with their earthly presence in our lives, but their memories live on in our hearts. May you find some peace and healing to ease the pain.

196 RiteWingFascist  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:26:28pm
The video is way out of sync with the audio. Good work, CBS.


Actually, if you go full screen with it, it syncs up. Which indicates it has something to do with the whatever method Flash is using to encode the video on the fly while saving FPS....but you new that, you techie you..

197 jaunte  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:26:47pm

re: #193 gop_patriot

I can't believe that Snopes is still 'undetermined' on that letter's status.

198 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:27:07pm

re: #138 rawmuse

Here is the latest email spam McCain hit piece, probably sent to me by mistake.

That sounds so over-the-top that it's either absolutely true, or complete horseshit made up by a Kos poster on their break at Starbucks.

199 Bobibutu  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:27:11pm

re: #7 USA

Poll at PBS: Is Palin qualified to be VP? Here

Poll is even. I just voted.

Still neck and neck.

200 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:27:12pm

My main problem with the "Morning after Pill" RU-486 is that it has brought on complications that have killed a number of women who took it as an after-the-fact contraception. I wonder if RU-486 was an acne treatment or a blood thinning agent, if the same number of deaths would have rendered it illegal for sale due to adverse health risks.

I think that politics overrule health concerns when it comes to that particular drug, and I find the hypocrisy in its continued availability alarming.

201 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:27:29pm

re: #186 3 wood

Thankfully this is finally happening. This frees up hundreds of billions of encumbered capital on the banks books and should (along with the FDIC coverage increase) go a long way toward easing the credit situation. All FASB has to do is shift to net present value. This is not that hard.

/almost eliminates the need for legislation

202 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:27:41pm

Why I adore Fred Thompson:

"Governor Palin’s every comment was scrutinized by the media and judged against what Jefferson or Lincoln might have said. Never mind that her counterpart, the 30-year-Washington-veteran Joe Biden, apparently is unaware that America relies upon coal for a lot of its electricity or that he recently referred to a top level U.S. official’s visit to Iran that never happened. That’s just Joe being Joe – protected by the sheer number of his gaffes and the fact that he is Barack Obama’s running mate."

(insta.P)

203 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:27:58pm

re: #158 SpartanWoman

It is an indoctrination process. I resisted this in college, but will admit to lefting up my papers for good grades

I was lucky enough to go back to college when I was 48. I dared them to give me a bad grade. I spoke out in class and called them on every frickin' lefty-loony opinion/not fact thing they said. I had a really fun time. This was prior to finding LGF. Wow I would have loved to have access to the Lizard brains then.

204 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:28:28pm

re: #104 n in wi

Could a conservative abort a fetus if it carried the "liberal" gene?

I should think they have a moral duty to do so!

205 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:28:34pm

re: #185 CyanSnowHawk

OMG. I know it's Fox, but there are over 14k votes on that poll. You don't suppose that someone figured out how to game it, do you? Or maybe the Paulbots got bored?

No. I think that Greta supports Sarah Palin (her hubby was a big Hillary supporter who is now campaigning for John McCain) as are many of her audience.

206 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:29:02pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

My Little Meggie passed away yesterday. I'm still in the grieving process.
Listening to Rush from today's show and reading LGF is sure helping this evening.
Meg is a pek-a-poo but does look more like the Pekingese than the poodle. I swear I can't see any poodle in her.

My heartfelt condolences for your loss.

I think there is a special place in heaven for our pets.

207 gop_patriot  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:29:26pm

re: #197 jaunte

I can't believe that Snopes is still 'undetermined' on that letter's status.

You're kidding me. Sheesh.

208 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:29:43pm

re: #203 newsjunkie_ky

Good for you.

209 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:30:13pm

re: #145 SpartanWoman

I wouldn't say once, but this is very very rare.

right. I didn't mean to imply it had happened only once; I'm sure there have been more instances unfortunately.
But they try to twist everything around to base thought upon the exception rather than the rule.
kinda like....

Gazillions of years ago, Reelfoot Lake was created in Tn due to a massive earthquake. (the mississippi ran backwards)
Based upon that, shouldn't we ensure that FEMA give all Tennesseans earthquake protection at the cost of billions of dollars just in case it happens again in the next gazillion years?
(and yes, "gazillion" is a real estimate according to my 7 year old)

210 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:30:40pm

For those not monitoring downthread, Eide's crying about being picked on now (starting at 423).

(We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...)

211 joecitizen  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:30:47pm

re: #168 Cap'n DOC

Aw... The Huwomanities. Would that be a Major or Minor?

only janecitizen knows the truth...

212 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:30:49pm

re: #160 Killian Bundy

I see the poodle, it's the eyes.

/I know those eyes, I was bitten by them as a child many times, poodles are easy to aggravate

Then Meg had no poodle in her. She is the sweetest fur baby around. EVERYONE loved her because she is so sweet. There will never been another one like her. I really miss her so much.
Luckily my granddaughter (3 months) babysat me tonight. She sure helped Grammy get through this evening.
KB, again thanks.

213 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:30:59pm

more from Fred on Palin:

When John McCain selected Governor Sarah Palin, as his running mate, the Democrats and their far-left constituency let out a primal scream that could be heard from sea to shining sea. How dare he choose someone that they and their pals in the media had not had a chance to vet (i.e. libel, slander, and otherwise and otherwise eviscerate). Ah, but it was not too late. These seekers of “a new kind of politics” poured torrents of malicious abuse upon her and her family.

Plane loads of scandal mongers, lawyers and other truth seekers became more numerous in Alaska than the polar bear, as they rallied local Democrats and disgruntled Republicans to their cause.

Here was a woman who chose to have children and a career. Aging Washington socialites weighed in with newly discovered sensitivity for mothers with careers outside the home. Here was a woman who became upset because her ex-brother-in-law had tasered her nephew and threatened her father. The Democrats and their friends had to save the country from a woman like this.

214 jaunte  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:31:04pm

re: #207 gop_patriot

Some things, like the happy news from my Nigerian banker friends, should be immediately obvious to Snopes by now.

215 Idle Drifter  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:31:21pm

re: #149 galloping granny

I would do my dangest to record that message and then I would file a complaint with the FCC, the FEC and your state Attorney General.

re: #139 mich-again

In a word, no. You the voter have to request the absentee ballot.

The crooked Township clerk in my locale got busted for mass-mailing out absentee ballots during a nasty recall campaign a few years back. Low and behold, she supported the recall of her political enemies who were being targeted.

Of course she claimed it was an honest mistake and nothing ever came of her malfeasance. Did I mention she is a dyed in the wool Democrat?

Galloping Granny, I already deleted the message but if I do receive an absentee ballot I'm keeping it and reporting to the FCC, FEC, and the Colorado State AG.

mich-again, thanks for confirming my concerns that it should be me requesting for an absentee ballot.

The strange thing is a couple weeks before I had received a phone call for an obscure University (again kicking myself for not recording the name) ask polling questions. It's probably nothing and my imagination running away with my reason. But if this keeps happening I'm going to start recording everything.

216 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:31:27pm

re: #200 mich-again

My main problem with the "Morning after Pill" RU-486 is that it has brought on complications that have killed a number of women who took it as an after-the-fact contraception. I wonder if RU-486 was an acne treatment or a blood thinning agent, if the same number of deaths would have rendered it illegal for sale due to adverse health risks.

I think that politics overrule health concerns when it comes to that particular drug, and I find the hypocrisy in its continued availability alarming.

Have you got numbers or links to trustworthy sources to back up that allegation, or is it as reliable as the Taser==Death allegations of the LLL?

217 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:31:38pm

re: #138 rawmuse

Here is the latest email spam McCain hit piece, probably sent to me by mistake.

I would forward that entire piece to the McCain campaign. Make sure you include the full header. For that matter, you can examine that yourself.

You might also consider filing a complaint with the State of California. It is illegal in most states to use your state paid title/position when you are advocating a political candidate.

218 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:31:56pm

So she's been permanently sealed into that red suit?

219 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:32:04pm

As for Mary-Kay I saw this on a site called "Reject McCain". She is an OBOT to her marrow

220 sojerofgod  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:32:07pm

I've been duking it with the libs at Jonathan Martin's blog on Politico.com the last day or so. Subject being Sarah Palin, of course the crazies have been out blah blah-ing about how she flubbed the supreme court decision question with Couric. Here is one of my favority responses, reposte here:
Kendra: I know Palin flubbed the supreme court decisions question. My response to that is, so what? A similar question would have been, "What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?" Irrelevant, and a "gotcha" question from the start. If you were in her position, with the high stakes she faces and knowing the abject hatred and distain of the questioner, you would probably have done no better. Neither would I. The point is that these questions do not show us a damn thing about what is really important, which is what are the values they subscribe to, and what is the judgement they will use to make decisions? You realize that with modern medicine the odds are that if elected Palin will spend the next four years presiding over state funerals and hosting dinners for visiting poobahs. How many supreme court decisions will she need to do that?

221 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:32:10pm

re: #209 nightintheruts

I wonder how Katie would have responded if Sarah advocated the death penalty for fathers who are guilty of that heinous crime. Now that would twist a lefties brain into a pretzel.

222 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:32:18pm

re: #210 CynicalConservative

Sorry, forgot the OT prefix... mercy please.... ;-)

223 LGoPs  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:32:18pm

re: #128 Idle Drifter

A little OT, but I just home from work with a message on my machine that has me concerned. Michelle Obama's prerecorded was telling me all about the importance of voting and how I could it from the comfort of my own home. It said they would send me a mail-in ballot. I'm kicking myself as I didn't finish the message because I became disgusted at the gesture since I prefer to vote in a booth and I don't like pressure messages that sound a little fishy. My question is this: Can anyone send me a mail in ballot without my requesting one?

Only if you're a democrat. It's in the Constitution dinchano?

224 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:32:21pm

re: #138 rawmuse

He arrived at our first group meal and started reading quotes from a pile of William Faulkner books with a forest of Post-Its sticking out
of them.

/McCain knows how to use Post-It notes?

225 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:32:47pm

re: #169 WindHorse

Newsjunkie.... my heart goes out to you. Your good friend is now running through fields full of flowers, and the sun is shining.... and she is happy.

Hang in there.

Thanks. Once she comes home in her little urn I will feel better. I get up from the computer and catch myself before I call her name to see if she wants to go 'walky'.

226 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:33:22pm

re: #201 Killian Bundy

/almost eliminates the need for legislation

I they would reinstate the uptick rule, banish the mark to market rule forever, and create an exchange market for the mortgage backed securities, I could go with the insurance option that the House Republicans were pushing. You would not get a single Democrat vote so it would not pass, but I could see it.

I look for a little more jump out of the market tomorrow if the Senate does not mess around.

Look for Pelosi to start running her yap cause I think she wants to tank the economy to get Obama elected.

227 jaunte  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:33:23pm

Didn't Joe Biden invent Post-It notes?

228 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:33:52pm

re: #186 3 wood

Finally, after weeks of a bunch of us pounding on this issue in every outlet possible, Cox at the SEC woke up:

SEC gives banks more leeway on mark-to-market

Thankfully this is finally happening. This frees up hundreds of billions of encumbered capital on the banks books and should (along with the FDIC coverage increase) go a long way toward easing the credit situation. All FASB has to do is shift to net present value. This is not that hard.

Reversing MtoM is the only

bailout

that is needed. Congress should now focus on reforms to stop these idiotic loans to unqualified borrowers guaranteed by taxpayers (FannieMae and FreddieMac). I say let the market take care of the rest.

229 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:33:58pm

re: #209 nightintheruts

right. I didn't mean to imply it had happened only once; I'm sure there have been more instances unfortunately.
But they try to twist everything around to base thought upon the exception rather than the rule.
kinda like....

Gazillions of years ago, Reelfoot Lake was created in Tn due to a massive earthquake. (the mississippi ran backwards)
Based upon that, shouldn't we ensure that FEMA give all Tennesseans earthquake protection at the cost of billions of dollars just in case it happens again in the next gazillion years?
(and yes, "gazillion" is a real estimate according to my 7 year old)

Reelfoot Lake was created by the New Madrid quakes in 1811/1812.

230 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:34:02pm

Is Couric kidding with those glasses?

231 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:34:21pm

re: #216 CyanSnowHawk

Here's the first one I came across. link. Perhaps that number is no big deal in the grand scheme.

232 Knitwit  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:34:28pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky
I'm so sorry for the loss of your dog.

233 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:34:29pm

re: #218 itellu3times

So she's been permanently sealed into that red suit?

/if it's good enough for Sarah, it's good enough for me

234 Intrepid  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:34:38pm

After reading about half of the last thread, I'm thoroughly convinced that the Obamabots are executing a concerted moby strategy of going onto conservative sites and attempting to foment discontent with the McCain/Palin camp, spread panic over the rise in Obama's poll numbers, and generally distracting conservatives from fully supporting McCain/Palin and the Republican party.

I've seen it blatantly at Hot Air, a bit at Michelle Malkin and quite a lot at open comment sites. And all of us here have noticed the antics of EIDE_Interface these last few weeks since it joined here. A plant?

Good thread at HC Forum - "Attention Eeyores"

235 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:34:45pm

re: #198 Pawn of the Oppressor

That sounds so over-the-top that it's either absolutely true, or complete horseshit made up by a Kos poster on their break at Starbucks.

If you've seen John McCain speak about his daughter, you know that nothing could be further from the truth than what is said in that letter. This is the same strategy as was done over Sarah Palin's daughter - and probably by the same people.

236 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:34:48pm

re: #176 jorline

I'm sorry to hear about your loss...it is like losing a family member. We got our Pek when my sister was six...died when she was 22 and broke my sisters heart, she did everything with that dog.

Best advice I can give...get another one as soon as possible...cuts the pain and you'll smother it with love.

Soon, but not now. Still grieving and having crying jags and anxiety attacks.

237 avspatti  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:35:05pm

re: #69 eon

Can somebody explain why people in Ohio can vote TODAY? This is unfair as the campaign still has over a month to go, and anything could happen. Not to mention the little question of exactly WHO is voting there, if you get my drift. Do we have poll watchers yet?

238 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:35:12pm

re: #227 jaunte

Didn't Joe Biden invent Post-It notes?

I think that was one of the moms from the Monkeys

no seriously.

or was that liquid paper?

239 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:35:24pm

I have a question for any folks who are knowledgeable about the stock market.

I can't imagine 3 wood is on right, but it actually goes to some concerns in his previous posts relating to this market situation.

He referred to short selling, and wanting to have the government step in, and curb it as a way of stabilizing the fluctuations.

Has the short selling really been a problem over the last week or so?

240 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:35:24pm

re: #201 Killian Bundy

Did you see LIBOR was up to 6.85% today?

That is going to be a big problem. If people think the US has a market problem, you won't believe the problems Europe has and they do not have as many monetary policy tools as we have in the US to deal with it.

241 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:35:38pm
242 alien_mind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:35:49pm

why am i not surprised, the moderator of Thursdays debate is Gwen Ifill of PBS. apparently she has a book coming out on Jan 20th,
“Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.”

more at Malkin

243 LGoPs  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:36:03pm

re: #225 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks. Once she comes home in her little urn I will feel better. I get up from the computer and catch myself before I call her name to see if she wants to go 'walky'.


She's happy and I like to think that she'll be waiting for you.......just like mine will be waiting for me.

Sorry for your loss.......

244 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:36:04pm

re: #181 Pvt Bin Jammin

So sorry to hear about the loss of your beloved dog. {newsjunkie_ky}

Thank you Pvt Bin Jammin. I appreciate your kind words and the hug.

245 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:36:17pm

re: #227 jaunte

Joe Biden couldn't find his ass without one.

246 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:36:21pm

I read that Obama supports increasing the FDIC limit to $250,000. That doesn't sound very progressive does it? How many of the downtrodden masses have bank accounts in that ballpark?

247 Archimedes  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:36:39pm

re: #31 Charles

The video's way out of sync with the audio. Good work, CBS.

It felt like I was watching a Chinese marshal arts movie.

248 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:36:45pm

re: #215 Idle Drifter

Galloping Granny, I already deleted the message but if I do receive an absentee ballot I'm keeping it and reporting to the FCC, FEC, and the Colorado State AG.

mich-again, thanks for confirming my concerns that it should be me requesting for an absentee ballot.

The strange thing is a couple weeks before I had received a phone call for an obscure University (again kicking myself for not recording the name) ask polling questions. It's probably nothing and my imagination running away with my reason. But if this keeps happening I'm going to start recording everything.

You might consider filing a complaint anyway. I certainly would. It is easy enough to for them to get your phone records if need be.

249 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:36:53pm

re: #184 MandyManners

wow...almost got misty-eyed on that one, Mandy!

I had a border collie when I was 8. She died just before I left for college. I had lost my best friend.

We will see our loved ones in heaven, it is said. I believe there will be many four-footed loved ones there as well.

250 Archimedes  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:37:20pm

re: #245 unclassifiable

Joe Biden couldn't find his ass without one.

And that's saying something considering he is an ass.

251 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:37:22pm

re: #226 3 wood

You are here.

252 jcm  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:37:28pm

re: #193 gop_patriot

Wow. That whole letter is bad, but the bolded sentence above is the biggest pile of horsesh*t I've read lately from any leftist loser, and that's saying something.

Holy cow. Really, there is no way, even if McCain felt that way, that he would ever be so stupid as to say it out loud or in public. Gah.

It can't be factually true, being an adoptive parent BOTH OF US signed the papers. While its true Cindy brought home the baby unannounced, from what I've read at the airport McCain ask, "where is she going" referring to the baby, Cindy said "home with us". And McCain's response was "I thought so."

253 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:37:38pm

re: #188 Killian Bundy

Thanks.

254 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:37:38pm

re: #239 formercorpsman

I have a question for any folks who are knowledgeable about the stock market.

I can't imagine 3 wood is on right, but it actually goes to some concerns in his previous posts relating to this market situation.

He referred to short selling, and wanting to have the government step in, and curb it as a way of stabilizing the fluctuations.

Has the short selling really been a problem over the last week or so?

It certainly was - had been for a long time. My understanding though is that Bush stopped it by executive order last week sometime.

255 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:37:43pm

re: #184 MandyManners

Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.

When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge.
There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together.
There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by.
The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.

They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....

Anon.

This helped me a lot last night.
Thank you.

256 WhiteRasta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:37:45pm

re: #205 galloping granny

re: #238 Shug

I think it was white-out......Yes, it was the mom of one of the Monkees....

257 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:37:47pm

re: #239 formercorpsman

"on right now"

258 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:38:02pm

re: #143 rawmuse

Part II
My final encounter with McCain was on the morning that he was leaving
Turtle Island.

Our educational institutions unfortunately do not in general prepare students to possess the critical thinking skills to be able to sort truth from lies these days. I bet the sender asked that it be forwarded to five best friends, too. This is classic slander of a public figure. Vacation in an exotic location, wife and hubby and a bunch of strangers that could not be located to verify the story, lots and lots of very specific slams at McCain that really shout out a red flag that this is pure myth.

I seriously doubt that if this person was to specify a date when this vacation occurred, that any corroboration could be made that McCain was in the same place at the same time.

These are classic tactics of the left. If you believe you can get away with a big lie, go for it. And if it's just a bunch of small lies, don't even worry about it. No one will check the truth anyway.

People I personally know would buy something like this hook, line and sinker. It's pathetic but true.

I wondered about the "College University of California, Santa Cruz" bit. I am well aware of UCSC, but this one had me puzzled.

There is no such university. It's a fake title.

259 alien_mind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:38:07pm

re: #201 Killian Bundy

/eliminates the need for legislation

fixed that for you

260 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:38:37pm

re: #228 USA

The Community Reinvestment Act needs to be repealed.

261 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:38:51pm

re: #197 jaunte

I can't believe that Snopes is still 'undetermined' on that letter's status.

Especially since someone on the message board says that they've seen OTHER versions that include:

"Mary-Kay is a real person and she acknowledges forwarding the story attributed to Ana Dubey
(Note from Kate: This shocking account was written by Ana Dubey, a friend of my cousin and her husband, who have known Ana for many years. Ana has a PhD in psychology and has a private practice in San Francisco . My cousin’s husband went to business school with Ana’s husband, who has since started and sold a number of successful companies. Ana’s husband is currently a Managing Director of a private equity firm in the Bay Area. Ana and her husband are not political activists and don’t have any personal ax to grind. In fact, in writing this account of her experience with John McCain, Ana is acting outside of her own economic self-interest as she and her husband are among the top 3-5% of our population who would benefit from the McCain tax/economic policies. Please pass this on to anyone you know who might vote for John McCain. Also please post it on blogs and send it to newspapers and radio stations.) "

262 WhiteRasta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:38:55pm

re: #249 nightintheruts

I had a border collie for 17 years. He was the best dog.

263 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:39:47pm

re: #254 galloping granny

Yes, it looks like the SEC did this on 09/18/2008.

264 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:40:00pm

re: #260 3 wood

The Community Reinvestment Act needs to be repealed.

Agreed. But I don't hear anyone in Congress talking about fixing the problem.

265 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:40:08pm

re: #231 mich-again

Here's the first one I came across. link. Perhaps that number is no big deal in the grand scheme.

That site is hardly unbiased on this issue, but thanks for the response. I will be leaving this topic alone now.

266 avspatti  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:40:15pm

re: #96 mich-again

Yikes. What a terrible thought. But closer to current reality, in the UN, they support abortion rights in general, but at the same time vehemently oppose the use of abortion for the practice of sex selection, which apparently happens on a grand scale in China. I don't really get that logic. If abortion is a truly a personal decision, then why should anyone question why that decision was made.

Logic? Isn't that a huge jump? LOL

267 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:40:21pm

OT

Jeff Zucker is president and CEO of NBC.
Jeff Zucker helped make that viral creepy Obamajugend video.
NBC footage is now used in an actual Obama campaign ad.
This Obama ad has been on youtube for three days.
NBC has sent a cease and desist letter to Obama campaign.
Nothing happens - video still up.

Can we say NBC is now officially part of the Obma campaign, doing astroturfing on the side and providing assistance and video clips for official Obama videos, then covering their ass by sending a letter by slow mule train? I say "YES we can."

268 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:40:23pm

re: #239 formercorpsman

I have a question for any folks who are knowledgeable about the stock market.

I can't imagine 3 wood is on right, but it actually goes to some concerns in his previous posts relating to this market situation.

He referred to short selling, and wanting to have the government step in, and curb it as a way of stabilizing the fluctuations.

Has the short selling really been a problem over the last week or so?

Not in the last week, since it was just banned, at least for the major financial stocks.

Rumor has it that illegal and uncontrolled "naked" short selling was used to attack financial stocks on and off during the last six months.

The truth of these rumors is not known to me. It would take a lot of capital and a lot of nerve, to make such attacks, is all I can say.

269 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:40:36pm

re: #246 mich-again

I read that Obama supports increasing the FDIC limit to $250,000. That doesn't sound very progressive does it? How many of the downtrodden masses have bank accounts in that ballpark?

Much like Jesse Jackson. Obama is good at spotting a parade and then running to get in front of it.

270 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:41:04pm

re: #209 nightintheruts

right. I didn't mean to imply it had happened only once; I'm sure there have been more instances unfortunately.
But they try to twist everything around to base thought upon the exception rather than the rule.
kinda like....

Gazillions of years ago, Reelfoot Lake was created in Tn due to a massive earthquake. (the mississippi ran backwards)
Based upon that, shouldn't we ensure that FEMA give all Tennesseans earthquake protection at the cost of billions of dollars just in case it happens again in the next gazillion years?
(and yes, "gazillion" is a real estimate according to my 7 year old)

Actually, Reelfoot Lake was created in 1821 by the second series of New Madrid Fault earthquakes (1820-24), the first series having taken place in 1813-15.

The fault zone, which actually extends well up into Western Pennsylvania, has been overdue for a major shake almost as long as the much more (in)famous San Andreas Fault in California.

And the Big Muddy did run south to north, flooding several hundred square miles of cropland and changing its course radically over a period of 11 years, to a degree that is usually only seen over millenia. The fault zone is named after a town in Missouri which no longer exists; its former site is now about dead-center of the dredged channel of Ol' Miss below St. Louis.

/took a college course in geology and vulcanology a long time ago, just for yuks

cheers

eon

271 sojerofgod  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:41:20pm

re: #206 3 wood

I hope so. We just lost Suzie last week. She was 19 years old and had belonged to my wife's grandmother, who had raised my wife after her parents got divorced. We got her when Grandmother died in 1995.
Suzie was a Puperanian. That is a pomeranian/pup-dog cross. My father in law used to call her "legs" cause she was not big but she looked like she had long legs. She was black, with long hair on her head like a pom, but it thinned out on her body and was never that puffball pom type. faithful friend for so many years. These last few months, she went blind, and so arthritic. I called her many things: snoozie, Zuni, Rita Breckenridge, Mrs. Pentafore, Pup-head. I buried her out back in a good, deep hole, I put her dog bed in first so she would have something lay on, and wrapped her up tight in her beach towel we used for a blanket for her. I hope I see her again some day.

272 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:41:22pm

re: #251 formercorpsman

You are here.

Yes I am, Sir.

273 jcm  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:41:25pm

re: #260 3 wood

The Community Reinvestment Act needs to be repealed.

Along with Barney Frank et. al.

274 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:41:41pm

re: #268 itellu3times

Define "naked" for me?

My knowledge is in broken bones, and knee replacements.

275 solomonpanting  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:41:48pm

re: #246 mich-again

I read that Obama supports increasing the FDIC limit to $250,000. That doesn't sound very progressive does it? How many of the downtrodden masses have bank accounts in that ballpark?

They don't. But with this increase of the limit, the Dems will concoct a new tax on "excess savings".

276 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:41:51pm

re: #192 galloping granny

I'm so sorry for you. We lost our little Lily last fall and we still miss her. Not too long before she passed, she brought home a gangly, awkward half grown male with a wounded paw. We took care of his paw and Lily taught him manners - how to sit on the fence and wait nicely for chicken on BBQ night, how to get in the door, not to pee in the house. Mr. Boots has never quite moved in, but he eats here twice a day and is finally starting to sleep in the house instead of under it. Two days ago he got hit by a car - and my poor daughter (Lily's personal servant) was devastated. Luckily, the lady behind the guy who hit Boots loaded him into her car and ran him back up the road to the Vet. Boots will be coming home tomorrow.


My heart skipped while reading about Boots. So happy he is coming home. I have one of those little cats that adopted Meggie a couple of years ago. She would take walks with us and would walk as if attached to Meg. The neighbors loved it. I have some pix on my cellphone. One day, I'll figure out how to load them on the computer.
I'm so happy Mr. Boots is alright.

277 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:41:54pm

re: #221 mich-again

I wonder how Katie would have responded if Sarah advocated the death penalty for fathers who are guilty of that heinous crime. Now that would twist a lefties brain into a pretzel.


HA! yeah...I got a mental picture of the robot on Lost In Space swinging his arms around going, "That does not compute! That does not compute!"

278 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:43:00pm

re: #267 Catttt

This should be reported to the FCC & FEC.

279 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:43:11pm

re: #235 galloping granny

If you've seen John McCain speak about his daughter, you know that nothing could be further from the truth than what is said in that letter. This is the same strategy as was done over Sarah Palin's daughter - and probably by the same people.

Gotta love the left - when you can't think of anything else, just make shit up! It works!

Hey, I heard Obama went on the Hajj with Osama's brother, and that he's secretly gay. Pass it on!

280 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:43:11pm

re: #195 Griffon

I'm so sorry for your loss of Meggie. It is so hard to part with their earthly presence in our lives, but their memories live on in our hearts. May you find some peace and healing to ease the pain.

Thank you. Your little furbaby is so adorable.

281 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:43:15pm

re: #260 3 wood

The Community Reinvestment Act needs to be repealed.

Yesterday or sooner.

282 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:43:59pm

re: #272 3 wood

I am trying to gage opinion about the short selling.

I recall your posts from over this past week, with a strong opinion on curbing the practice.

Trying to arrive at a point in my own mind.

283 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:44:18pm
284 ackomanyuki  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:44:18pm

re: #143 rawmuse

I have never posted a smiley at a blog in my five years of blog participation, but if they were enabled here I would be entering the one that raises the little B.S. flag on that slanderous screed.

If Prof. Shitbird of Daddy's Money Surf Bum and Deadlocked Patchouli Rank Armpit U exists, they should be getting a call from the the Treasury Department's best to cease and desist in the harassment of a presidential nominee.

No way Jose did that shit come from the mouth of John McCain. They wish, but no way. Were are the witnesses?

Liable plain and simple.

/ Where are the Purity of Spirit and Sanctity of Process New World Truth Brigaders when you need them?

285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:44:19pm

I sure hope no one is fighting. I'm in a really good mood.

286 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:44:28pm

re: #281 unclassifiable

Yesterday or sooner.

Agreed. Who in Congress is supporting its repeal?

287 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:44:30pm

re: #206 3 wood

My heartfelt condolences for your loss.

I think there is a special place in heaven for our pets.

Thank you there is.

288 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:45:16pm

re: #143 rawmuse

Mary-Kay Gamel
Professor of Classics, Comparative Literature, and Theater Arts Cowell
College University of California, Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, Calif

Who teaches:

Performance studies, ancient Mediterranean performance, Greek and Latin literatures, myth, reception of Greek and Roman texts and artifacts, film, feminist approaches to literature and performance.


Greek and Roman texts and artificats! I like her! The problem is she only knows the half of it.

We can save her, man!

289 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:45:27pm

re: #237 avspatti

Can somebody explain why people in Ohio can vote TODAY? This is unfair as the campaign still has over a month to go, and anything could happen. Not to mention the little question of exactly WHO is voting there, if you get my drift. Do we have poll watchers yet?

Poll watchers are being signed up now. Of course, they won't have anything to do until Nov. 3.

/which means that the Absentee ballots probably figure prominently in the Democratic state regime's government's plans to hand Ohio to Obama on a silver platter.

cheers

eon

290 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:45:41pm

re: #261 merrytexas

Especially since someone on the message board says that they've seen OTHER versions that include:

"Mary-Kay is a real person and she acknowledges forwarding the story attributed to Ana Dubey
(Note from Kate: This shocking account was written by Ana Dubey, a friend of my cousin and her husband, who have known Ana for many years. Ana has a PhD in psychology and has a private practice in San Francisco . My cousin’s husband went to business school with Ana’s husband, who has since started and sold a number of successful companies. Ana’s husband is currently a Managing Director of a private equity firm in the Bay Area. Ana and her husband are not political activists and don’t have any personal ax to grind. In fact, in writing this account of her experience with John McCain, Ana is acting outside of her own economic self-interest as she and her husband are among the top 3-5% of our population who would benefit from the McCain tax/economic policies. Please pass this on to anyone you know who might vote for John McCain. Also please post it on blogs and send it to newspapers and radio stations.) "

What trash.

"This is a fifth-hand story that can't be verified. Please post it everywhere K THX BAI"

cough*ASTROTURF*coughcough

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:45:54pm

Any White Sox fans here?

Any Twins Fans?

In that case...

Congrats

and

Wait til next year!

292 womball  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:45:57pm

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

Obama may be quite evil. Long article but it ties everything up nicely.

293 Idle Drifter  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:46:05pm

re: #248 galloping granny

You might consider filing a complaint anyway. I certainly would. It is easy enough to for them to get your phone records if need be.

True, they claim it was a random number generator again more than possible but it's very likely they kept the number I did answer all the questions favoring Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin. Though I did throw 'em for a loop when they asked me of racial background and I answered Heinz 57.

294 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:46:26pm

re: #232 Knitwit

I'm so sorry for the loss of your dog.


Thank you so much.

295 Ron Shaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:46:29pm

re: #143 rawmuse
Wow, they're busy, busy little bees over at the dems' hive! That's one heck of a darned yarn...from a supposed Professor of Classics, Comparative Literature, and Theater Arts Cowell College University of California, Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California!

I think the Professor forgot that her writing assignment called for a short non-fiction piece rather than a totally fabricated hatchet job...'too many supposed facts to be believable...nice touches with the book readings and instances where plenty of witnesses are interjected...and that part about Cindy McCain being overweight or heavy was a riot and a classic mistake as well as a real-deal breaker...methinks the writer protests too much...final grade on paper, 'F'.

296 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:46:37pm

re: #262 WhiteRasta

I had a border collie for 17 years. He was the best dog.


Mine was only 10. got some kind of diabetes type thing.
She was awesome.
I've had dogs come and go since then, but she was the special one when I was a kid growing up. Went with me everywhere - even killed a water moccasin that was coming toward me in a creek once.
Dog's are man's best friend.
Cats are ok - they've learned to tolerate us = )

297 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:46:46pm

re: #279 Pawn of the Oppressor

Vats of political kool-aid are provided free on every street corner at this season. What flavor would you like?

Hey! People are swimming in that vat over there!


... and so forth.

298 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:47:33pm

re: #254 galloping granny

It certainly was - had been for a long time. My understanding though is that Bush stopped it by executive order last week sometime.

Here's an example of how damaging it was. Short sellers knew that mutual funds were getting a lot of redemption requests. So they would look up the holdings of say ACME fund for instance, and see that ACME held a lot of Stock "A". So then they would quick run and short sell "A" to start driving the price down artificially. So then the ACME fund would have to sell significantly more shares of "A" than they should have had to to meet their redemption requests.

The short sellers would clean up, and share holders in Janus (and Apple) got clipped. They were doing "naked short sells" too and the SEC was doing nothing about it.

Problem is, the ban exempted specialists and options traders, so they can still short sell.

299 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:47:48pm

re: #243 LGoPs

She's happy and I like to think that she'll be waiting for you.......just like mine will be waiting for me.

Sorry for your loss.......

Our furbabies will be waiting on us for sure. Thank you.

300 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:48:05pm

re: #274 formercorpsman

Define "naked" for me?

In regular short-selling, you borrow shares from your neighbor, sell them to a stranger, and at some future time, you buy shares on the market, hopefully at a lower price, and return them to your neighbor. Since there is a finite number of shares existing, and even fewer that are available for borrowing, this puts a limit on short selling.

In naked short selling, which I believe is not legal, you make up shares out of thin air and sell them to a stranger. At some time in the future, I guess you are supposed to buy some real shares to close the deal. This works, I guess, as long as the stranger doesn't actually demand registered certificates, just a book entry someplace.

What I've heard is that there is insufficient supervision to see what is going on with this, so the whole mechanism needs to be turned off. But if it's all that fradulent, I don't really see what effect the regulation is going to have.

301 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:48:41pm

re: #298 3 wood

Were people short selling the Airlines just prior to 911?

302 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:48:50pm
"Youths"

are at it again. Irish lads, perhaps?

303 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:49:11pm

re: #270 eon


well darn...you just blew my note all to hell!

I stand corrected - and thank you for the knowledge.

Although...to my 7 year old the 1800's would still be gazillions of years ago.

304 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:49:14pm

re: #264 USA

Agreed. But I don't hear anyone in Congress talking about fixing the problem.

Because it would impact minorities a lot, so it's a non-starter for now.

305 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:49:40pm

If you bought a book with your money, and maybe some tools, this financial brou-ha-ha would not have much effect upon you.

306 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:50:00pm

re: #269 3 wood

Much like Jesse Jackson. Obama is good at spotting a parade and then running to get in front of it.

He didn't happen to go and buy 10,000 marbles first, did he?

307 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:50:02pm

re: #241 SpartanWoman

More on the dinner with McCain fiction!

And that brings us to this person, a "Democracy activist" who has written this on HuffPo:
"Over the last six decades, whether rich or poor, everyone has done better with Democrats in the White House.

And that is just the non-divisive, universal note that Barack Obama needs to hit and keep hitting, in response to the RNC, and in debates and in the press. So let's tell our McCain-leaning friends and family about this -- and also encourage the Obama campaign to make sure this message gets heard."--Frances Moore Lappe (another person involved in the email scam being perpetrated)

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

308 LGoPs  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:50:15pm

Got a new puppy and now he's sick - gotta run to the night vet......

309 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:50:39pm

re: #306 mich-again

He didn't happen to go and buy 10,000 marbles first, did he?

Animal House reference = Drink?

310 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:50:49pm

My mistake on a previous reply. A Mary-Kay Gamel is on the faculty Cowel College at UCSC.

That doesn't mean that the story isn't a bunch of hooey, which I'm dead solid certain it is.

Somebody has probably already e-mailed her about this. Her e-mail address is easily found on the internet.

311 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:50:49pm

re: #301 formercorpsman

Were people short selling the Airlines just prior to 911?

Oh probably. There's always somebody short selling something. That in and of itself does not indicate advance knowledge. I've heard it theorized that bin Ladin places some short sells through his family, but I've never heard one way or the other for sure

312 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:50:58pm

Youths are at it again. Irish lads, perhaps?

313 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:51:00pm

re: #286 USA

The political reality is that D's control both Houses and I do not think a turnaround will be possible this election cycle -- but I am doing my part this year by turning our congressional district back to the R column.

Wanna know the crappy thing? The D for our district voted "No" on the bailout and would otherwise probably be totally indistinguishable from John McCain on most issues. It's just that he has really crappy "friends" who will pull his chain on every friggin' cockamamie liberal scheme if Obama gets elected. I'm doing a small part to short circuit that.

314 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:51:05pm

re: #298 3 wood

Here's an example of how damaging it was. Short sellers knew that mutual funds were getting a lot of redemption requests. So they would look up the holdings of say ACME fund for instance, and see that ACME held a lot of Stock "A". So then they would quick run and short sell "A" to start driving the price down artificially. So then the ACME fund would have to sell significantly more shares of "A" than they should have had to to meet their redemption requests.

The short sellers would clean up, and share holders in Janus (and Apple) got clipped. They were doing "naked short sells" too and the SEC was doing nothing about it.

Problem is, the ban exempted specialists and options traders, so they can still short sell.

Sometimes I miss the days when our money was based on real live gold that was stored in a vault at Fort Knox. This smoke and mirrors shell game can be such baloney.

315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:51:08pm

re: #287 newsjunkie_ky

I am so sad for you. Have a dog. Rocky (actually Sergei Vasilievich Rachmaninoff). "Four and a half pounds of thunder" as I call him.

I have never had a dog as an adult, until three years ago.

When he dies? Send me to a taxidermist.

I am so sad for ya! Go adopt a new dog tomorrow!

316 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:51:15pm

re: #301 formercorpsman

Furthermore, it would seem to me, the "short" component would be a very stealth way to go around regulation.

317 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:52:06pm

Mike Nesmith was the Monkee who's mother invented Liquid Paper.

Hey all!

318 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:52:29pm

re: #308 LGoPs

Got a new puppy and now he's sick - gotta run to the night vet......


Prayers for you and puppup.

319 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:52:59pm

re: #304 3 wood

Because it would impact minorities a lot, so it's a non-starter for now.

Well too %*&^&ing bad! $700 billion is a non-starter for me!

320 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:53:16pm

re: #307 merrytexas

"Over the last six decades, whether rich or poor, everyone has done better with Democrats in the White House.

Man what a blanket statement.

Flunk.

321 seekeroftruth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:53:17pm

re: #239 formercorpsman

I have a question for any folks who are knowledgeable about the stock market.

I can't imagine 3 wood is on right, but it actually goes to some concerns in his previous posts relating to this market situation.

He referred to short selling, and wanting to have the government step in, and curb it as a way of stabilizing the fluctuations.

Has the short selling really been a problem over the last week or so?

I thought President Bush put a temporary halt to short selling.

322 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:53:21pm

re: #310 really grumpy big dog Johnson


See post 241 by SpartanWoman

323 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:53:37pm

re: #242 alien_mind

why am i not surprised, the moderator of Thursdays debate is Gwen Ifill of PBS. apparently she has a book coming out on Jan 20th,
“Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.”

more at Malkin

Oh my goodness. Just when you think they can't get any more blatant...

"MIZZ Palin Moose-Killer, this next question is for you... Oh who am I kidding? You high-heeled cracker bitch! How dare you stand in the way of my Man and his Presidency! DIE!" *jumps over desk to attack Palin* "ILL STRANGLE YOU"

324 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:54:07pm

re: #317 ggt

Mike Nesmith was the Monkee who's mother invented Liquid Paper.

Hey all!

Where. In. The. Heck. Have. You. Been. ?.

325 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:54:08pm

re: #312 USA

Youths are at it again. Irish lads, perhaps?

Shit, I know that place. It's a meduim sized hamlet, not a big city, and a rather conservative part of the country. It's amazing how this crap has spread into the most obscure of places.

326 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:54:22pm

re: #287 newsjunkie_ky

Sorry about your sweet doggie. I have lived through this sort of loss and keep coming back for more: A barking Home is a Happy Home, ans my neighbor used to say.

327 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:54:23pm

re: #323 Pawn of the Oppressor

Ifill is not that bad.

As MSM goes.

328 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:54:23pm

re: #268 itellu3times

Rumor has it that illegal and uncontrolled "naked" short selling was used to attack financial stocks on and off during the last six months.

The truth of these rumors is not known to me. It would take a lot of capital and a lot of nerve, to make such attacks, is all I can say.

It was absolutely happening and big time. SEC should have fried the bastards but did nothing. The SEC has let a lot of stuff go by, like Steve Jobs back dating stock options to himself at Apple.

When the SEC asked him about it (actually their auditors caught it first) Jobs said that he did not understand the implications of doing that and the SEC let it go.

I want Cox fired, like now.

329 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:54:31pm

re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am so sad for you. Have a dog. Rocky (actually Sergei Vasilievich Rachmaninoff). "Four and a half pounds of thunder" as I call him.

I have never had a dog as an adult, until three years ago.

When he dies? Send me to a taxidermist.

I am so sad for ya! Go adopt a new dog tomorrow!

Not tomorrow, but soon.

330 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:54:39pm

re: #320 Ojoe

Man what a blanket statement.

Flunk.

That's the woman who supposedly "verified" with the "Ana" person that the fictional account really happened. Yeah right.

331 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:55:25pm

Every time the Twins lose a heartbreaker, I smile a bit. In '87 my team got ripped off by Baseball's now defunct practice of switching home field advantage back and forth between divisions regardless of merit.

Besides, playoff baseball at the Metrodome is always a sad joke. Real fans wouldn't put up with such a pathetic dump for a ballpark. MLB should move that franchise to a city that actually cares about baseball enough to support a genuine stadium instead of that gimmicky craphole.

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:55:53pm

re: #323 Pawn of the Oppressor

Oh my goodness. Just when you think they can't get any more blatant...

"MIZZ Palin Moose-Killer, this next question is for you... Oh who am I kidding? You high-heeled cracker bitch! How dare you stand in the way of my Man and his Presidency! DIE!" *jumps over desk to attack Palin* "ILL STRANGLE KEEL YOU"

There. Fixed that for ya!

/

333 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:56:01pm

re: #307 merrytexas

And that brings us to this person, a "Democracy activist" who has written this on HuffPo:
"Over the last six decades, whether rich or poor, everyone has done better with Democrats in the White House.

And that is just the non-divisive, universal note that Barack Obama needs to hit and keep hitting, in response to the RNC, and in debates and in the press. So let's tell our McCain-leaning friends and family about this -- and also encourage the Obama campaign to make sure this message gets heard."--Frances Moore Lappe (another person involved in the email scam being perpetrated)

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Somehow I knew it would trace back to HuffDUKosistan. I'm shocked, x2.

/not really

334 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:56:08pm

re: #326 SpartanWoman

Sorry about your sweet doggie. I have lived through this sort of loss and keep coming back for more: A barking Home is a Happy Home, ans my neighbor used to say.

Yes it is. Soon, soon.

335 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:56:23pm

re: #303 nightintheruts

well darn...you just blew my note all to hell!

I stand corrected - and thank you for the knowledge.

Although...to my 7 year old the 1800's would still be gazillions of years ago.

LOL. Seems like yesterday to me. But when I was a kid, during the 1960s, the "present day" was such a pain in the butt that I spent most of my time reading history and science fiction in pure self-defense. The War of 1812 was at least as real to me as Hue, and still is.

cheers

eon

336 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:56:38pm

re: #321 seekeroftruth

I thought President Bush put a temporary halt to short selling.

/on certain Financial, and I'm pretty sure it was the SEC's idea

337 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:56:40pm

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338 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:57:04pm

re: #324 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

living my life, doing laundry --you know.

Hey, how's CV?

339 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:57:18pm

re: #312 USA

Youths are at it again. Irish lads, perhaps?

A French police officer was shot and wounded during clashes with youths

That's unpossible! There are no guns in Europe!

340 solomonpanting  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:57:19pm

The video MSM is way out of sync with the audio half the country.

341 alien_mind  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:57:25pm

re: #312 USA

Youths are at it again. Irish lads, perhaps?


Swedish youth would be my guess.

342 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:57:28pm

Earthquake.

343 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:57:29pm

re: #307 merrytexas

And that brings us to this person, a "Democracy activist" who has written this on HuffPo:
"Over the last six decades, whether rich or poor, everyone has done better with Democrats in the White House.

And that is just the non-divisive, universal note that Barack Obama needs to hit and keep hitting, in response to the RNC, and in debates and in the press. So let's tell our McCain-leaning friends and family about this -- and also encourage the Obama campaign to make sure this message gets heard."--Frances Moore Lappe (another person involved in the email scam being perpetrated)

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

I'm thoroughly convinced. This is a plant, plain and simple. The fingerprints of moonbattery are all over it.

344 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:57:55pm

Probably a small one local to my area, west Los Angeles.

345 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:58:21pm

re: #342 itellu3times

Earthquake.

Where?

346 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:58:26pm

re: #274 formercorpsman

Define "naked" for me?

By the rules, when you do a short sell (i.e., borrow stock from your broker ans sell it) you are supposed to actually set the stock aside in a brokerage account and be held until the entire transaction is closed. This puts some limit on the volume of how many shares you can short sell, limited by how many the broker will let you borrow and set aside at any point in time.

A "naked" short sell is when no stock is actually set aside, you just go to the market and sell stock you don;t have and did not even borrow, and drive the price down then buy it up to close the deal. That, combined with no "uptick" rule, is a license to steal on the stock market.

347 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:58:35pm

re: #274 formercorpsman

Define "naked" for me?

Barry Hussein without a teleprompter.

348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:58:43pm

re: #331 mich-again

Went to a Vikings game there once. Remember looking at my wife and saying, "How in the hell do they play baseball here. That HAS to suck!"

Just thought you'd like to hear from an objective observer.

349 zombie  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:58:49pm

Feedback, please!

Just published this at zomblog:

The Greenlining Institute: Does the financial crisis have its origins in Berkeley?

However, it was a total rush job, as I have no time to proofread it or do a bunch of research, as I have to attend to a pressing real-world work deadline.

Any quick suggestions for improvements? Any relevant links? I got many 15 more minutes to devote to this, max.

350 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:59:05pm

re: #311 3 wood

Just seems interesting.

351 jaunte  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:59:09pm

re: #337 HelloDare

Done. Is this like other internet polls, or have I used up my allotted votes with that one?

352 Basho  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:59:22pm

re: #312 USA

Youths are at it again. Irish lads, perhaps?

GAH! Curse those blasted youths! Why couldn't they have been born several years earlier? Why? WHHHYYYY?!?

353 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:59:26pm

re: #344 itellu3times

I felt it, too. Short. Nothing on the radio. I bet it was local and small.

354 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:59:30pm

re: #331 mich-again

Every time the Twins lose a heartbreaker, I smile a bit. In '87 my team got ripped off by Baseball's now defunct practice of switching home field advantage back and forth between divisions regardless of merit.

Besides, playoff baseball at the Metrodome is always a sad joke. Real fans wouldn't put up with such a pathetic dump for a ballpark. MLB should move that franchise to a city that actually cares about baseball enough to support a genuine stadium instead of that gimmicky craphole.

You mean something like, "Target Field?"

355 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 7:59:59pm

re: #282 formercorpsman

I am trying to gage opinion about the short selling.

I recall your posts from over this past week, with a strong opinion on curbing the practice.

Trying to arrive at a point in my own mind.

It's a very risky technique that can make the market more efficient but also be badly abused and cause a lot of damage.

356 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:00:11pm

re: #343 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Someone should write an email about Obama and a close relationship with a known unrepentant domestic terrorist. Did I just say that? Slap me down. The MSM would never mention it. They'd call it fiction.

357 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:00:14pm

re: #310 really grumpy big dog Johnson

My mistake on a previous reply. A Mary-Kay Gamel is on the faculty Cowel College at UCSC.

That doesn't mean that the story isn't a bunch of hooey, which I'm dead solid certain it is.

Somebody has probably already e-mailed her about this. Her e-mail address is easily found on the internet.

It would really stink to have your name fraudulently used by an unscrupulous "the ends justify the means" Obamaton for this kind of smear.

358 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:00:19pm

re: #351 jaunte

Don't know how it works. Saw it linked in a comment at Hot Air.

359 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:00:27pm

re: #346 3 wood

A "naked" short sell is when no stock is actually set aside, you just go to the market and sell stock you don;t have and did not even borrow

See, now that, to me, meets the common law definition of simple "fraud", unless the seller's lack of ownership of the stock were very clearly disclosed to the buyer.

360 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:00:44pm

re: #342 itellu3times

Earthquake.

Where?

361 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:00:47pm

re: #348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"How in the hell do they play baseball here. That HAS to suck!"

If a pop-up bounces off the roof, its in play. Like I said, its a joke to play professional baseball there. Beer league softball? fine.

362 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:01:11pm

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Any White Sox fans here?

Yo.

363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:01:15pm

re: #338 ggt

living my life, doing laundry --you know.

Hey, how's CV?

He's been wondering where the heck you've been!?

Though he doesn't live here, he misses seeing you around.

364 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:01:20pm

re: #335 eon

LOL. Seems like yesterday to me. But when I was a kid, during the 1960s, the "present day" was such a pain in the butt that I spent most of my time reading history and science fiction in pure self-defense. The War of 1812 was at least as real to me as Hue, and still is.

cheers

eon

I was right there with you, same time and all...

Ray Bradbury, Harlan Ellison...the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant...
Scifi and fantasy were my world, coupled with real person biographies...

But now I can remember more of the Martian Chronicles than I can about the life of Ben Franklin...

365 seekeroftruth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:01:26pm
366 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:01:54pm

re: #274 formercorpsman

Define "naked" for me?

This sounds like one of those questions Captain Kirk would always get, from a naive but very hot alien girl.

367 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:02:14pm

re: #354 Noam Sayin'

Very good for them then. I will "Barry" my grudge when they move to the new park.

368 jaunte  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:02:23pm

re: #358 HelloDare

I'll check it again tomorrow from work. Thanks for the tip.

369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:02:42pm

re: #362 3 wood

Well, did that make your week better?

370 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:02:44pm

re: #357 Syrah

According to the link Spartanwoman gave, Gamel admitted to the blogger at that link that she forwarded it.

371 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:03:02pm

re: #360 MandyManners

Where?

L.A. Probably just a small local one. Didn't last long. Nothing on the radio about it.

372 jcm  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:03:18pm

There is only one beer to drink on the night of the veep debate.

MOOSE DROOL

I'm enjoying one now.

Run out and get yours now.

373 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:03:22pm

How can you sell what you don't own?

374 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:03:23pm

re: #357 Syrah

It would really stink to have your name fraudulently used by an unscrupulous "the ends justify the means" Obamaton for this kind of smear.

First thing I thought of was Anita Hill! I'm amazed they didn't mention pubic hair on a coke can. And how bout that McCain wanting to nuke Iraq in 2000! So precient!

375 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:03:38pm

re: #349 zombie

Looks like a classic. Great work, Zombie.

376 Idle Drifter  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:03:41pm

re: #299 newsjunkie_ky

Our furbabies will be waiting on us for sure. Thank you.

Loosing a loyal friend hurts. A friend who was always grateful for a little attention, always wanted to play the moment you ask, enjoy a pleasant walk, bath in the sun, and was always so excited to see you come home after a long, miserable day to give you a smile that never seemed to end. To see them again is a dream come true.

377 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:03:54pm

re: #349 zombie

Feedback, please!

Just published this at zomblog:

The Greenlining Institute: Does the financial crisis have its origins in Berkeley?

However, it was a total rush job, as I have no time to proofread it or do a bunch of research, as I have to attend to a pressing real-world work deadline.

Any quick suggestions for improvements? Any relevant links? I got many 15 more minutes to devote to this, max.


Isn't it about time, for humanity's sake, that you give up this real world gig and focus on the really important work of zombieng ?

378 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:03:56pm
379 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:04:10pm

re: #368 jaunte

I'll check it again tomorrow from work. Thanks for the tip.

Ferret sanctuary or Soldier's Angels. Tough decision. /

380 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:04:27pm
381 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:04:40pm

re: #373 MandyManners

How can you sell what you don't own?

I dunno, but it's good work if you can get it.

382 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:04:43pm

re: #346 3 wood

A "naked" short sell is when no stock is actually set aside, you just go to the market and sell stock you don;t have and did not even borrow, and drive the price down then buy it up to close the deal. That, combined with no "uptick" rule, is a license to steal on the stock market.

/get a few heavy hitters together and they could actually bust the float on some companies if no one's paying attention

383 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:05:15pm

re: #373 MandyManners

How can you sell what you don't own?

That, by definition, is a short sale.

384 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:05:15pm

re:

385 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:05:17pm

re: #365 seekeroftruth

Will this help? - SEC gives banks more leeway on mark-to-market

Majorly.

Belatedly.

386 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:05:46pm

re: #321 seekeroftruth

I thought President Bush put a temporary halt to short selling.

It was the SEC and they left some loop holes. Specialists and options traders can still short sell. That is why all the stocks on the banned list are still undervalued.

By the way, Newt Gingrich has now come around to my way of thinking and thinks that we need to buy up these toxic securities.

387 zombie  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:05:48pm

re: #377 Shug

Isn't it about time, for humanity's sake, that you give up this real world gig and focus on the really important work of zombieng ?

One of these days, one of these days...

388 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:05:50pm

re: #378 itellu3times

Thanks.

389 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:08pm

re: #204 Moe Katz

I should think they have a moral duty to do so!

You do realize that just because you have very liberal parents doesn't make the child liberal. And just because you have conservative parents doesn't mean the child will be conservative.
/I have very leftist liberal parents and have never thought like them.

390 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:18pm

re: #370 merrytexas

According to the link Spartanwoman gave, Gamel admitted to the blogger at that link that she forwarded it.

Then she will deserve the attention that she will get.

391 zombie  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:18pm

re: #380 unclassifiable

Discoverthenetworks search

Hmmmm, not much there.

392 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:18pm

re: #363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been here! on and off, I even hit 10K posts yesterday.

393 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:20pm

Evening all. Anyone here think that Katie Curic would ever, ever, EVER, in a million years, say the words, "I'm sorry, let me ask you again, ...." to Joe Biden, Barack Obama, or any other democrat, for that matter? This is a great clip of Sarah Palin, and I thought she had a good conversation with Curic this time, but she needs to learn how to play the game with these asshole left-wing interviewers.

394 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:30pm

re: #373 MandyManners

How can you sell what you don't own?

Typically you put other stocks/financial instruments you own up as collateral for the trade.

395 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:37pm

re: #355 3 wood

Sometimes, things just come to mind, and process as the outsider looking in.

If there would be any element of truth to a terrorism component, my gut would tell me financial.

I think it is safe to say, they lost the actual physical confrontation, subversive measure would be my next logical choice.

I have nothing other than letting my imagination run for right now, trying to make sense of stuff I don't have as good a grasp on.

396 wright1  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:47pm

You all may have heard this one but if you have not it is rather funny:

One sunny day in 2009, an old man approached the White House from across
Pennsylvania Avenue , where he'd been sitting on a park bench.

He spoke to the Marine standing guard and said, 'I would like to go in
and meet with President Barack Obama.'

The Marine replied, 'Sir, Mr. Obama is not President and doesn't reside here.'

The old man said, 'Okay,' and walked away. The following day, the same
man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, 'I would
like to go in and meet with President Barack Obama'.

The Marine again told the man, 'Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Obama is not President
and doesn't reside here.' The man thanked him and again walked away.

The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the
very same Marine, saying ' I would like to go in and meet with President Barack Obama'.

The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said,
'Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Obama.
I've told you already several times that Mr. Obama is not the President and doesn't reside here.
Don't you understand?'

The old man answered, 'Oh, I understand you fine. I just love hearing your answer!'

The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, 'See you tomorrow.'

397 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:06:52pm

re: #328 3 wood

It was absolutely happening and big time. SEC should have fried the bastards but did nothing.

Who?

398 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:07:12pm

re: #385 itellu3times

Majorly.

Belatedly.

Remember Enron. It's abuses started with Mark to Market accounting.

399 seekeroftruth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:07:15pm

re: #385 itellu3times

Majorly.

Belatedly.

Thanks - guess better late than never.

400 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:07:29pm

re: #365 seekeroftruth

Will this help?

Absolutely, and I did a blurb on it upthread a ways. I think this is one big reason why the market jumped today. Do the FDIC increase and reinstate the uptick rule and you will get another 500 point pop by noon tomorrow.

Fire Cox and you will get another 100 points on top of that.

401 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:07:55pm

re: #236 newsjunkie_ky

Very sorry for your loss. I lost my precious cat of 14 years this past May.

402 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:07:57pm

re: #373 MandyManners

How can you sell what you don't own?

/you're supposed to borrow it from someone who actually owns it and then eventually return it, naked short sellers skip the whole borrow/return thing

403 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:08:22pm

re: #373 MandyManners

How can you sell what you don't own?

How would you like to contemplate that question while strolling across... your very own bridge!

Yes, this fabulous bridge can be yours for an AMAZINGLY low price... I must be CRAZY to be giving away bridges at these prices!

404 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:08:36pm

re: #400 3 wood

Absolutely, and I did a blurb on it upthread a ways. I think this is one big reason why the market jumped today. Do the FDIC increase and reinstate the uptick rule and you will get another 500 point pop by noon tomorrow.

Fire Cox and you will get another 100 points on top of that.

Wonder what kind of pop we could get by firing Pelosi and her cronies?

405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:08:41pm

re: #392 ggt

I've been here! on and off, I even hit 10K posts yesterday.

Good. Trying to stay busy and not participate in Barney's Depression.

Hey! Is that a good name for it. Mebbe...

The Frank Reduction.

Or The "BF"?

406 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:08:47pm

re: #369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, did that make your week better?

Well, yeah.

S&P was down 9% for the quarter though. :(

407 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:08:52pm
408 Spirit93  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:09:03pm

re: #349 zombie

Excellent post zombie, one of the most lucid I have seen on the subject. The only space for improvement that I could see would be to add more details, facts & figures, but of course entire books could be written on this subject, and probably will be.

410 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:09:11pm

re: #366 Occasional Reader

Alright, I tried to respond with wit. I can't. You got me.

That is Beer Monkey territory there.

411 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:09:20pm

re: #391 zombie

Yeah -- just money.

Fannie Mae Foundation, ATT Foundation, Aetna Foundation.

Quick draw and it was not much. Think you got much more.

Sorry

412 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:09:31pm

re: #367 mich-again

Very good for them then. I will "Barry" my grudge when they move to the new park.

2009, I think. I haven't followed baseball since the '91 series. And I wasn't really a baseball fan up until that year. I just started riding my bike to The Dome occasionally on weekend afternoons to enjoy the air-conditioning while reading the paper. I'd buy a tix for the upper deck in left field and sat largely by myself for most games, doing the crossword and occasionally looking down on the game.

Worst to First. It got crowded up there by the end of the summer. I don't know a whole lot about baseball, but I though Jack Morris was a serious stud for pitching all 10 innings of Game #9. Watched that one from Bullwinkle's on Seven Corners. Great game.

The next year the players went on strike.

413 seekeroftruth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:09:40pm

re: #386 3 wood

It was the SEC and they left some loop holes. Specialists and options traders can still short sell. That is why all the stocks on the banned list are still undervalued.

By the way, Newt Gingrich has now come around to my way of thinking and thinks that we need to buy up these toxic securities.

I see - thanks! And that's a big change for Newt from where he was several days ago.

414 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:09:57pm

re: #398 USA

Remember Enron. It's abuses started with Mark to Market accounting.

Yes, I posted a small screed about that on some previous thread today. I've decided mark to market is entirely bad mojo, an illegal taking, with a lot of bad history.

Of course, it depends on what you mean, mark to market. If you mark to real value, that may not be the same as current market conditions. The price of your Mercedes is zero between 3:00AM and 8:00AM, and if you were required to borrow two BMW's every night or go to jail, it would be inconvenient.

415 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:10:11pm

I think we may soon need a bailout plan for the oil speculators who are holding contracts for crude oil at $150 a barrel. Poor guys. sniff sniff...
/

416 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:10:24pm

re: #373 MandyManners

How can you sell what you don't own?

You are technically borrowing it from someone else. You then buy it back from the market at a lower price, return it to the person who lended it to you, and close the deal.

417 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:10:45pm

re: #349 zombie


The Greenlining Institute’s mission is to empower communities of color and other disadvantaged groups through multi-ethnic economic and leadership development, civil rights and anti-redlining activities.

They get all their money from the California budget. (Source: .pdf file their webpage.)

You can travel through every small or mid sized town in this country and see a storefront, with a logo on the window yet with curtains closed, who advocate some liberal cause at government's expense.

Such 'business' has become a sophisticated enterprise attracting actual business talent with diversified expertise in grant writing, public 'accounting' and politicking! Which I kind of respect in an off-key, capitalist kind of way... But it is all a waste and politically motivated.

418 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:11:25pm

re: #386 3 wood

It was the SEC and they left some loop holes. Specialists and options traders can still short sell. That is why all the stocks on the banned list are still undervalued.

By the way, Newt Gingrich has now come around to my way of thinking and thinks that we need to buy up these toxic securities.

Specialists get all the breaks, damn them.

419 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:11:26pm

By the way, I have become convinced that Gingrich reads LGF.

I keep hearing him say things word for word that people wrote here.

420 solomonpanting  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:11:30pm

re: #237 avspatti

Can somebody explain why people in Ohio can vote TODAY? This is unfair as the campaign still has over a month to go, and anything could happen. Not to mention the little question of exactly WHO is voting there, if you get my drift. Do we have poll watchers yet?

On Monday, the state Supreme Court and two federal judges upheld the ruling by Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner that allows new voters to register and cast an absentee ballot on the same day from Tuesday through Oct. 6. Republicans argued that Ohio law requires voters to be registered for 30 days before they cast an absentee ballot.
The Ohio GOP asked the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati on Tuesday either to stop same-day voting or require elections official to separate those ballots so the registrations can be verified. But Brunner already has instructed election officials to segregate those ballots and verify the registrations before counting them. A three-judge panel of the federal appeals court denied the request later in the day.


Plenty of time to get back in line for another round.

421 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:11:53pm

re: #396 wright1Loved it,,just loved it.

422 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:19pm

re: #410 formercorpsman

Alright, I tried to respond with wit. I can't. You got me.

That is Beer Monkey territory there.

Why, thank you kindly.

Say, speaking of hot alien girls, where is "JamesTKirk", anyway? I haven't seen him post lately.

423 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:37pm

re: #415 mich-again

I think we may soon need a bailout plan for the oil speculators who are holding contracts for crude oil at $150 a barrel. Poor guys. sniff sniff...
/

I am a Christian. Most of you guys know me to be a very friendly and "kum ba yah" kind of guy.

I am also someone who drives 5-8 thousand miles a month.

I am rooting for their total annihilation.

Screw 'em.

424 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:46pm

re: #317 ggt

Mike Nesmith was the Monkee who's mother invented Liquid Paper.

Hey all!

(name redacted) was the Monkey who created me.
back atcha!

425 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:46pm

re: #382 Killian Bundy

/get a few heavy hitters together and they could actually bust the float on some companies if no one's paying attention

Which is precisely the problem. Without the uptick rule, you can destroy a solid company with short selling and spreading a few false rumors to scare people.

426 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:47pm

re: #401 Suzette

Very sorry for your loss. I lost my precious cat of 14 years this past May.


{Suzette}

427 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:48pm

re: #419 3 wood

By the way, I have become convinced that Gingrich reads LGF.

I keep hearing him say things word for word that people wrote here.

If he's busted in an Adriana Lima stalking scandal, we'll know for sure.

428 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:51pm

re: #364 nightintheruts

I was right there with you, same time and all...

Ray Bradbury, Harlan Ellison...the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant...
Scifi and fantasy were my world, coupled with real person biographies...

But now I can remember more of the Martian Chronicles than I can about the life of Ben Franklin...

I was more into the "pulp" and Golden Age era writers, like E.E. "Doc" Smith, Jack Williamson, Heinlein, and Asimov. Today, I mainly read David Weber and John Ringo, plus LGF's own Tom Kratman.

The Legacy of the Aldenata aka Posleen War series by Ringo, Kratman, and others, plus Weber's Honor Harrington series and Weber & Ringo's Empire of Man aka Prince Roger series are my most-frequently-reread modern SF. If you haven't read them, I cannot recommend them too highly. Also Ringo's Paladin of the Shadows modern-day military series. Warning; Ringo pulls no punches in that one- on any account.

cheers

eon

429 seekeroftruth  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:53pm

re: #400 3 wood

Absolutely, and I did a blurb on it upthread a ways. I think this is one big reason why the market jumped today. Do the FDIC increase and reinstate the uptick rule and you will get another 500 point pop by noon tomorrow.

Fire Cox and you will get another 100 points on top of that.

Ah - that makes sense now why the market went up so much today.
I'll look for your link - thanks!

430 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:12:53pm

re: #386 3 wood

It was the SEC and they left some loop holes. Specialists and options traders can still short sell.

/market makers need to be able to make markets to earn a living and make the world go 'round

431 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:13:08pm

re: #415 mich-again

I think we may soon need a bailout plan for the oil speculators who are holding contracts for crude oil at $150 a barrel. Poor guys. sniff sniff...
/

They are hoping Hussein Obama wins

432 wright1  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:13:18pm

This may have been commented on but does anyone have faith in Gwen Ifill being fair in light of the video of her dismissively decrying Governor Palin's speech at the RNC convention?

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

433 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:13:53pm

re: #419 3 wood

By the way, I have become convinced that Gingrich reads LGF.

I keep hearing him say things word for word that people wrote here.

Did he quote EIDE_interface?
/
;)

434 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:14:04pm

re: #419 3 wood

By the way, I have become convinced that Gingrich reads LGF.

I keep hearing him say things word for word that people wrote here.

Why wouldn't he. We're here.

435 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:14:05pm
436 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:14:19pm

Poll: For the first time, plurality believe Iraq war will be judged a success

For the first time since Rasmussen Reports began polling on the issue, a plurality of voters in September say the U.S. mission in Iraq will be viewed as a success in the long term.


In a national telephone survey Monday night, 41% said history will rate the war in Iraq a success versus 39% who said it will be seen as a failure, with 20% undecided (see crosstabs). These findings echo those of the previous two weeks (see trends).


By contrast, in August of last year, 57% believed history would judge the U.S. mission in Iraq a failure, and only 29% disagreed.


Nearly half of voters (48%) also believe the situation in Iraq will get better in the next six months versus 22% who believe it will get worse. Twenty-three percent (23%) expect things to stay about the same. The number of those who see the situation getting better has been steadily rising throughout the summer as violence has gone down in the war-torn country.

437 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:14:22pm

re: #278 Sharmuta

This should be reported to the FCC & FEC.

I sent it to Drudge.

438 zombie  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:14:27pm

OK, gotta go!

Ciao, raggazzi.

439 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:14:31pm

Well, it sounds like plain-old theft. If anyone else did it, she'd go to jail.

440 wright1  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:14:45pm

re: #421 Oldasdirt

Loved it,,just loved it.


Yeah pretty funny...I got it from my very patriotic mother-in-law - God bless her soul!

441 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:14:58pm

re: #419 3 wood

You know 3, I would imagine a few folks of stature might be observing.

Honestly, this is a great place to discuss real topics, in an adult manner.

Some things get heated, certainly silly moments, but I can say without a doubt, I learn something everyday.

If only we had orthopaedic topics, I would feel much more confident in all of this.

442 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:15:00pm
443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:15:05pm

re: #419 3 wood

By the way, I have become convinced that Gingrich reads LGF.

I keep hearing him say things word for word that people wrote here.

You think he's TFK?

444 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:15:19pm

re: #419 3 wood

By the way, I have become convinced that Gingrich reads LGF.

I keep hearing him say things word for word that people wrote here.

I'm with you. It's like he scans the good threads, takes some notes, then goes onto his prime time interviews.

445 mich-again  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:16:08pm

re: #412 Noam Sayin'

but I though Jack Morris was a serious stud for pitching all 10 innings of Game #9.

True that. We will probably never again see anything like that. A pitcher going 10 innings. But I think it was actually game #7.

446 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:16:16pm

re: #397 itellu3times

Who?

Various speculators. The SEC knows, you have to register short sales. That actually is a good indicator of stock market volatility. Most stock market websites will have a statistic some where on short selling activity market wide. It's been going through the roof lately.

447 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:16:32pm

re: #444 cliffster

I'm with you. It's like he scans the good threads, takes some notes, then goes onto his prime time interviews.

There is no question in my mind that Taranto reads LGF. Zero.

448 USA  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:16:47pm

re: #444 cliffster

I'm with you. It's like he scans the good threads, takes some notes, then goes onto his prime time interviews.

Maybe you are reading his posts....

449 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:17:17pm

re: #404 CynicalConservative

Wonder what kind of pop we could get by firing Pelosi and her cronies?

2000 points, minimum.

450 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:17:23pm

re: #415 mich-again

I think we may soon need a bailout plan for the oil speculators who are holding contracts for crude oil at $150 a barrel. Poor guys. sniff sniff...
/

Too late, their contracts ended and the chickens came to roost last week. If we're going to run out of cash and credit, I'm happy to see them be the first to file bankruptcy

451 coquimbojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:17:31pm

re: #346 3 wood

By the rules, when you do a short sell (i.e., borrow stock from your broker ans sell it) you are supposed to actually set the stock aside in a brokerage account and be held until the entire transaction is closed. This puts some limit on the volume of how many shares you can short sell, limited by how many the broker will let you borrow and set aside at any point in time.

A "naked" short sell is when no stock is actually set aside, you just go to the market and sell stock you don;t have and did not even borrow, and drive the price down then buy it up to close the deal. That, combined with no "uptick" rule, is a license to steal on the stock market.

They just passed a law against it about two or three weeks ago. I worked on getting it passed. The owner of Overstock.com was instrumental in moving the process forward.

452 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:18:11pm

Good night.

453 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:18:15pm

Gonna go and see if I can catch an elbow to the ribs.

I always sleep better when I cough up a little blood on the pillow.

G'night folks!

Love ya! Mean it!

454 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:18:35pm

re: #443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You think he's TFK?

I can't remember who I said it to last night, but they said something that I heard Newt say earlier almost word for word.

I do think he is on here imo

455 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:18:54pm

re: #349 zombie

It all started with The Community Reinvestment Act, a federal law originally passed during the Carter administration and then ramped up during the Clinton years, that was originally designed to prevent racist lending practices by banks who wouldn’t loan money to minorities, even if they were qualified.

A bank that won't lend to a qualified client? Oh dear tell me this was satire!

456 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:19:01pm

re: #431 Shug

They are hoping Hussein Obama wins

Or they are betting that Iran gets bombed soon.

457 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:19:15pm

re: #419 3 wood

By the way, I have become convinced that Gingrich reads LGF.

I keep hearing him say things word for word that people wrote here.

So that's why he told Alan Colmes to go Piss up a rope, the other day.

It all makes sense now

458 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:19:17pm

I wonder if Edgar is Newt's LHF sock puppet?

/hehe

459 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:19:22pm

re: #448 USA

Maybe you are reading his posts....

I give up, who is he?

460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:19:58pm

re: #457 Shug

Newt quoted Mandy?!

461 eon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:20:09pm

I must now retire, as well.

Early morning tomorrow.

Good night, Lizards.

Sleep well.

cheers

eon

462 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:20:27pm

re: #419 3 wood

By the way, I have become convinced that Gingrich reads LGF.

I keep hearing him say things word for word that people wrote here.

Well, he is a newt, afterall.

463 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:20:55pm

re: #451 coquimbojoe

Good on you. Giving away the store is what got us here in the first place.

464 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:20:56pm

re: #435 ploome hineni

I am so sorry to hear she passed away

{newsj}


Thanks. I'm having a little anxiety attack at the moment.

465 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:20:59pm

Naked short selling . . .

Let's say ABC corporation has a float of (shares outstanding) 100 shares.

/now, if I m not required to borrow any of those shares, I can sell 1000 ABC shares short, imagine what damage I can do, see the problem?

466 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:21:05pm

re: #462 Noam Sayin'

Ding! and a reply Ding!

467 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:21:11pm

re: #462 Noam Sayin'

Boy, am I behind.

468 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:21:33pm

This is OT.....but this is what hollyweird has become....tragic.

469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:21:46pm

re: #464 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks. I'm having a little anxiety attack at the moment.

Like I said....TOMORROW!

470 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:21:53pm

re: #441 formercorpsman

You know 3, I would imagine a few folks of stature might be observing.

Honestly, this is a great place to discuss real topics, in an adult manner.

Some things get heated, certainly silly moments, but I can say without a doubt, I learn something everyday.

If only we had orthopaedic topics, I would feel much more confident in all of this.

Try an experiment.

Read LGF and Jammies site every day for 6 weeks in the morning.

Then also listen to Rush everyday and see if you notice a pattern.

471 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:22:07pm

re: #342 itellu3times

Earthquake.

Here is the info.

472 kevinmumaw  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:22:14pm

Last one before I got to bed...

OT: ACORN attempted to get around minimum wage laws in California and is guilty of union busting. Hear that, Excaliber? [Link: www.epionline.org...]

Source: Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now v. Department of Industrial Relations, 41 Cal. App. 4th 298, 301 (Cal. Ct. App. 1995).

473 coquimbojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:22:15pm

re: #463 unclassifiable

Good on you. Giving away the store is what got us here in the first place.

xactly.

474 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:22:17pm

re: #466 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks. When I saw how late that one came, I thought for sure it had been done.

475 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:22:24pm

re: #457 Shug

So that's why he told Alan Colmes to go Piss up a rope, the other day.

It all makes sense now

lol, just got here.

476 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:22:30pm

re: #451 coquimbojoe

They just passed a law against it about two or three weeks ago. I worked on getting it passed. The owner of Overstock.com was instrumental in moving the process forward.

I know, and thanks for your work on that.

477 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:23:19pm

re: #470 3 wood

Roger.

478 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:23:19pm

re: #440 wright1

Yeah pretty funny...I got it from my very patriotic mother-in-law - God bless her soul!


Mother in Law,,heard some guys talking bout an earthquake a little while ago in this thread,I did not have the heart to tell them it was just my X mother in law crawling of the couch.

479 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:23:20pm

re: #475 x-wing

lol, just got here.

Mandy is Newt? OMG

480 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:23:38pm

re: #373 MandyManners

I have a bridge in New York I am willing to let go at "special" price. Interested?

481 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:23:59pm

re: #464 newsjunkie_ky

It will pass in a few minutes...and I know it seems like a long time, but it is
only for a few minutes. (I know)....... {newsjunkie_ky}

482 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:24:00pm

re: #470 3 wood

Try an experiment.

Read LGF and Jammies site every day for 6 weeks in the morning.

Then also listen to Rush everyday and see if you notice a pattern.

Rush definitely reads LGF, he mentioned it today. He also reads Lucianne, I also post there. Probably some others as well.

483 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:24:00pm

re: #443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You think he's TFK?

I don't know if he posts, but I'm pretty sure he reads. I've heard him repeat too many things word for word from here.

484 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:24:02pm

re: #474 Noam Sayin'

Thanks. When I saw how late that one came, I thought for sure it had been done.

Oh Geez! I'm Late? Guess I didn't catch an elbow after all!

Whooo hoooo!

485 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:24:16pm

re: #458 Cartman

I wonder if Edgar is Newt's LHF sock puppet?

/hehe

So who then is Eide?

486 maddogg  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:24:28pm

Dang! Video won't play for me. I just want to look at her:)

487 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:24:54pm

re: #444 cliffster

I'm with you. It's like he scans the good threads, takes some notes, then goes onto his prime time interviews.

Yep, a guy I used to work with noticed it first.

488 West Coast Freedom  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:25:24pm

re: #392 ggt

I've been here! on and off, I even hit 10K posts yesterday.

You know what is amazing about this election? Many people know me as a noob - well I am, but I have learned a few things in the last 50 years. I'm a car club forum poster, close to 7,000 posts in fact, but when the Dems nominated Obama I took notice, I knew I had a new calling.

489 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:25:35pm

re: #485 Syrah

So who then is Eide?

Michael Savage.

490 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:25:58pm

re: #428 eon


I'll definitely check those out! thanks for the head's up.

Ringo may be a little much. I have a house full of kids that attempt to read my "grown-up" books - I don't want to pay for their therapy = )

"The Princess Bride" is currently being passed around here. Everyone is "Inigo Montoya" right now.

491 itellu3times  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:26:02pm

re: #451 coquimbojoe

They just passed a law against it about two or three weeks ago. I worked on getting it passed. The owner of Overstock.com was instrumental in moving the process forward.

Is that a pun?

492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:26:13pm

Goodnight. Mrs. "Wife of a Vegetarian" is a waitin'. Sound asleep...but...heh.

493 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:26:26pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not sure I can do that.

494 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:26:48pm

Wow, Drudge jumped on this.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

495 Wendya  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:27:07pm

re: #59 Truck Monkey

Wanna bet?

/ends justify the means

Katie is very conscious of her public image. She doesn't want to be labeled a bitch.

Too late.

496 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:27:20pm

re: #489 Sharmuta

Michael Savage.

That is almost too believable.

497 lori lane  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:27:42pm

re: #464 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks. I'm having a little anxiety attack at the moment.

{newsjunkie_ky} i hope you can get some restful sleep tonight.

498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:27:47pm

re: #493 newsjunkie_ky

Understood. But, please remember this absolute truth when it comes to a pet. The faster? The better.

499 lori lane  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:28:09pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Wow, Drudge jumped on this.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Whooo hoooo!

500 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:28:14pm

re: #481 Suzette

It will pass in a few minutes...and I know it seems like a long time, but it is
only for a few minutes. (I know)....... {newsjunkie_ky}


Thanks. Funny, I need funny. come on you guys. You are some of the funniest people I know.

501 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:28:30pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Pfffftttttt! He called 0bama "Dear Leader" in the link to the creepy video! LMAO!

502 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:28:41pm

re: #485 Syrah

So who then is Eide?

Hannibal Lecter?

503 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:28:51pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Wow, Drudge jumped on this.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Should be an automatic DQ

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:29:01pm

re: #493 newsjunkie_ky

Oh yeah...

{newsjunkie_ky}

Me too.

505 coquimbojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:29:12pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Wow, Drudge jumped on this.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

I just threw up a little in my mouth....

506 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:29:30pm

re: #496 Syrah

Well- it was Noam Sayin' who gave me the idea.

507 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:29:44pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Wow, Drudge jumped on this.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Well, now, that's kinda shitty.

508 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:29:44pm

re: #485 Syrah

Buchannan

509 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:29:49pm

re: #451 coquimbojoe

They just passed a law against it about two or three weeks ago. I worked on getting it passed. The owner of Overstock.com was instrumental in moving the process forward.

I'm not really sure why that would be necessary. Maybe they're just starting to enforce the law already on the books.

/naked short selling has been illegal for over 75 years

510 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:30:00pm

re: #502 Cartman

Hannibal Lecter?

An Eeyore.

511 coquimbojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:30:09pm

re: #503 SpartanWoman

Should be an automatic DQ

The lefties never have to recuse themselves. You can't be biased if you are righteous!

512 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:30:17pm

re: #500 newsjunkie_ky

Check my #468 comment. :)

513 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:30:48pm

sorry, had to check-on some stuff.

Has this video already been posted --got it in my e-mail

514 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:31:14pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Wow, Drudge jumped on this.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

They act like it's some sort of SCOOP that a debate moderator is pulling for Obama.

The fairness doctrine ought to dictate that Sean Hannity moderate the next presidential debate

515 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:32:29pm

re: #514 Shug

At least he is making it news on his site.

516 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:32:33pm

re: #497 lori lane

{newsjunkie_ky} i hope you can get some restful sleep tonight.


Me too.
OK, no more talk of Meggie tonight.

Funny, be funny.
just listening to o'reilly talking about pelousie bein so uncordinated, kinda like joe cocker.

517 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:32:38pm
518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:32:41pm

re: #500 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks. Funny, I need funny. come on you guys. You are some of the funniest people I know.

Oh. Sorry.


OK. Got a "no bama" bumper sticker. customer (obama supporter) complained. I said, "huh?" he said, "how can you not support Obama?"

I said, "No, I am an Auburn fan. Don't like 'Bama."

Whew.

519 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:32:54pm

re: #507 newsjunkie_ky

Well, now, that's kinda shitty.


Grrreeaat!, can you say fair? I can't.

I wondered about a fist-bump earlier today, and now I can see it.

520 coquimbojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:32:58pm

re: #509 Killian Bundy

I'm not really sure why that would be necessary. Maybe they're just starting to enforce the law already on the books.

/naked short selling has been illegal for over 75 years

They felt the need to tighten the regulations.

521 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:33:10pm

Has anyone seen realwest today?

522 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:33:15pm

re: #51 mich-again

CBS was trying to invoke the image of Godzilla.

Please: In deference to Lizards of the Hebrew persuasion, G-dzilla.

523 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:33:16pm

re: #290 Pawn of the Oppressor

This is the Internet version of a whispering campaign.

Most such campaigns have an element of truth then create a tissue of lies. Literal whispering campaigns, however, don't leave a paper (or electronic) trail, so they are almost impossible to trace. In either case, one is put in the position of proving that something did NOT happen (kind of like that stupid Palin skit on last weekend's SNL).

My main three red flags are these:

If Senator McCain behaved as stated during the entire vacation (as told in the story), then literally dozens of people could have mentioned the behavior (not just this incident - the story has a whole string of sins listed). When is the last time something like this was kept quiet when dozens of people knew about it? Do they lower the cone of silence? ? ?

The same trick was pulled on Senator McCain, with variations, in the 2000 campaign. Unfortunately, people obviously still view his younger daughter as fair game for their lies. I think anyone who uses a young girl to score points is beneath contempt and will burn in hell, but that is just me, maybe.

Senator McCain has been known to have a forceful personality and to be somewhat impulsive, yet he has many MANY good friends. Example: Joe Biden is a good friend of his. While McCain can be abrupt, etc. (hey - he was a Navy fighter pilot, for pity sakes - and such are not normally shrinking violets), he is known to be a good friend, no matter what side of the aisle you are on. I am reminded in this of Senator Ted Kennedy, who is a dear friend of many people who totally disagree with him politically and by all accounts is well-loved by many people.

524 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:33:18pm

re: #508 unclassifiable

Buchannan

Not pugnacious enough. Buchannan would fight his own shadow if it got in his way.

Also, Buchannan would let slip with his core antisemitism at some point and get the stick. (If he hasn't already.)

525 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:33:39pm

re: #515 formercorpsman

At least he is making it news on his site.


Don't get me wrong, I am glad she has been exposed as a partisan hack

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:34:02pm

PEACE!

527 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:34:53pm

re: #521 Typicalwhitey

Has anyone seen realwest today?

Got an e-mail from him this morning, but I've not been on LGF since this morning.

528 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:35:12pm

re: #520 coquimbojoe

They felt the need to tighten the regulations.

/okay, tighter regulations, that makes sense, subset of laws

529 banjo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:35:29pm

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

530 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:35:30pm

re: #513 ggt

I just heard the name "Jamie Gorelick" on that video I posted. I was hoping never to hear that name again.

531 maddogg  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:35:32pm

re: #518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. Sorry.


OK. Got a "no bama" bumper sticker. customer (obama supporter) complained. I said, "huh?" he said, "how can you not support Obama?"

I said, "No, I am an Auburn fan. Don't like 'Bama."

Whew.

Arkansas (like the rest of the South) is so in the bag for McCain that the local Republican office does not even bother to open. To get a bumper sticker I would have to order one. No signs, no calls for money, nuttin'.

532 lori lane  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:36:24pm

re: #521 Typicalwhitey

Has anyone seen realwest today?

He was around this morning.

533 Russkilitlover  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:36:26pm

re: #14 Sharmuta

Thank you, Sarah. Indeed- we should have started drilling ten years ago. Thanks for nothing, democrats!

Hey Sharm! I'm now an official "volunteer" for the McCain/Palin campaign here in my little town. I drew the line at phone bank duty - I can't stand the interruptions myself, and won't impose them on others. But I am stuffing envelopes and manning the office 16 hours per week.

534 jaunte  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:36:44pm

re: #529 banjo

Why does it scare you if she doesn't want it taught in schools?

535 spirochete  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:37:01pm

“Senator Biden, I know you have said I don’t have any foreign policy experience. But once I travel to Europe and the Middle East for five days, I will have as much as Senator Obama does.”

“Senator Biden, your adopted state of Delaware has about the same population as mine of Alaska . But the difference is, I am the chief executive of Alaska , and have real responsibilities for decisions. You run an office. Besides that, your Delaware is about the size of one of our Alaskan glaciers. Or our ANWR, which will start producing oil once I have a chance to talk it over with President McCain.”

“Senator Biden, say what you want about my political career, but I never copied anybody’s speeches or their whole biography, like you did. I never falsified my college record, like you did. I never got Franklin Roosevelt mixed up with Herbert Hoover, or TV with radio – like you did.”

“Senator Biden, you might have 35 years in the Senate, and you may have traveled the world, but your judgment is poor. Your party and you said the surge wouldn’t work and the war was lost. Your party was wrong, you were wrong, and your Presidential candidate is still wrong.”

“Senator Biden, your brilliant suggestion for Iraq was to divide the country into three parts. That would have guaranteed endless war and endless death in Iraq for a century. Your judgment was wrong, and all your foreign policy experience didn’t help that much, did it?”

These were sent to me by a friend. Sort of a wish list for the debates. Hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting this here.

536 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:37:19pm

re: #524 Syrah

No- it's downstairs whining again about the treatment he receives because of his own words. He's so persecuted, you know.

537 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:37:32pm

re: #496 Syrah

That is almost too believable.

Next time you see eide, ask him if he likes Rockstar Energy Drink.

538 NY Nana  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:37:36pm

re: #468 Suzette

Sadly, it is not recent. They have robbed our kids and grandkids of something that is a part of their childhood...something called innocence.

And parents let kids sit in front of a TV, and far too many do not even bother see monitor what a young kid is watching.

To mock Elmo, and get 5 stars? Pathetic.

I am so old that I remember the world before TV, and it was good. ;)

539 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:37:50pm

re: #529 banjo

I 'm not following you. Do you have any proof that she forced any of these views on the people of Alaska?

540 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:37:53pm

re: #529 banjo

You mean that she believes that G.d created us?
I believe that same thing.

Why would that scare you?

541 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:38:03pm

re: #486 maddogg

Dang! Video won't play for me. I just want to look at her:)

It wouldnt play for me either Bummer

542 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:38:27pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

Quick - post something that DOESN'T sound like it comes from a Moby.

543 pbird  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:38:40pm

re: #176 jorline

I'm sorry to hear about your loss...it is like losing a family member. We got our Pek when my sister was six...died when she was 22 and broke my sisters heart, she did everything with that dog.

Best advice I can give...get another one as soon as possible...cuts the pain and you'll smother it with love.

I can't bear to get another dog myself and my wolfie has been gone for nearly a year....

544 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:38:50pm

re: #533 Russkilitlover

Same here. I told 'em I'd do anything but phone work. They were cool with that.

545 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:38:50pm

re: #518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. Sorry.


OK. Got a "no bama" bumper sticker. customer (obama supporter) complained. I said, "huh?" he said, "how can you not support Obama?"

I said, "No, I am an Auburn fan. Don't like 'Bama."

Whew.


Good one. SEC RULES!

546 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:38:50pm

re: #529 banjo

but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist

Got a linky for that?

/and then I'll ask you to define "creationist"

547 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:39:16pm

re: #503 SpartanWoman

Should be an automatic DQ

The MSM will not say a word about it. Street whores have more integrity.

548 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:39:29pm

re: #451 coquimbojoe

They just passed a law against it about two or three weeks ago. I worked on getting it passed. The owner of Overstock.com was instrumental in moving the process forward.


I read about this and was amazed! Wasn't this one of the main reasons for the '29 crash? Didn't they pass a LAW against it?

549 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:39:37pm

re: #536 Sharmuta

No- it's downstairs whining again about the treatment he receives because of his own words. He's so persecuted, you know.


Please let's not pollute this thread with the mention of that troll

550 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:39:45pm

re: #514 Shug

They act like it's some sort of SCOOP that a debate moderator is pulling for Obama.

The fairness doctrine ought to dictate that Sean Hannity moderate the next presidential debate

I IMed him with a thank you anyway. I just hope he keeps it on the web for a few days

551 timinnc  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:40:11pm

Here’s another worthless survey regarding Sarah Palin that deserves our influence to skew their hopeful outcome. :-)

If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Palin be competent to be President?

[Link: ahpoll.com...]

- TiminNC

552 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:40:15pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Wow, Drudge jumped on this.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Jumped on what?

553 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:40:21pm

re: #519 x-wing
She should bow out and not moderate the VP debate.
msm really pisses me off.

554 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:40:28pm

re: #533 Russkilitlover

Hey Sharm! I'm now an official "volunteer" for the McCain/Palin campaign here in my little town. I drew the line at phone bank duty - I can't stand the interruptions myself, and won't impose them on others. But I am stuffing envelopes and manning the office 16 hours per week.

That is AWESOME! I'm so glad!

Yeah- phone duty can be tough. I've done it plenty. You just have to have a knack for it. A few years ago a lady complained to me that it was the 5th call she'd taken in 3 days. I apologized but explained that the phone lists were not co-oridnated and that we obviously wanted to make sure our folks got out to vote. She was more understanding at that point and told me wild horses wouldn't keep her away.

555 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:40:32pm

re: #513 ggt

sorry, had to check-on some stuff.

Has this video already been posted --got it in my e-mail


incredible.

now we know who was getting pay-offs....

This video needs to be circulated through emails everywhere.

556 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:40:56pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

I'm glad you have a good, intelligent, comprehensive way of evaluating people and their competence for office.

557 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:41:00pm

re: #536 Sharmuta

No- it's downstairs whining again about the treatment he receives because of his own words. He's so persecuted, you know.


What can we do to get him to leave already. He is a real downer.

558 3 wood  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:41:06pm

Good night all.

559 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:41:16pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

Being a creationist disqualifies her? Is that what you mean?

560 solomonpanting  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:41:18pm

re: #529 banjo

So, which of her policy decisions are tainted by her beliefs, and why?

(Single spaced, no typos, with references.
Neatness counts.)

561 swamprat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:41:29pm

re: #529 banjo.....really?

Be strong..... I will pray for you.

562 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:41:48pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

With that attitude, you will go far.

Just not here.

563 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:41:52pm

re: #538 NY Nana

True...all that you have said. I made sure my two sons had a magical childhood. The real world dawns on them soon enough.
/actually it was my 26 yr old son who sent me that.

564 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:41:58pm

re: #558 3 wood

Night 3-wood, thank you so much for your input the last couple of days.

565 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:42:00pm

re: #557 x-wing

What can we do to get him to leave already. He is a real downer.

The Cone of Silence.

/It's the new GAZE

566 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:42:16pm

I think we have a troll in da house

567 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:42:47pm

re: #530 ggt

I just heard the name "Jamie Gorelick" on that video I posted. I was hoping never to hear that name again.


She got a boatload of money. Crooked POS.

568 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:43:11pm

re: #557 x-wing

What can we do to get him to leave already. He is a real downer.

We should take Walter's advice.

569 CynicalConservative  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:43:23pm

re: #557 x-wing

What can we do to get him to leave already. He is a real downer.

only remedy to a narcissist such as eide is GAZE

570 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:43:26pm

re: #485 Syrah

So who then is Eide?

Don't you start or I'll give you such a smack .....

571 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:43:26pm

re: #566 Wishing

I think we have a troll in da house

We can make "trollhouse" cookies. Yum!

572 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:43:44pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Thank you, Matt Drudge! It should be #1 headline everywhere.

573 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:43:57pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

That's rather narrow-minded of you.

574 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:44:07pm

re: #566 Wishing

I think we have a troll in da house

It always starts out with "I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here....".

575 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:44:27pm

re: #551 timinnc

Here’s another worthless survey regarding Sarah Palin that deserves our influence to skew their hopeful outcome. :-)

If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Palin be competent to be President?

[Link: ahpoll.com...]

- TiminNC

Abraham Harrison, LLC?

The only thing on the main page of that site is this poll! Does it automatically generate three "no" votes for every yes, no matter what selection you make? Where did you even find this site?

576 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:44:39pm

re: #552 really grumpy big dog Johnson

This was mentioned earlier in either a different thread, or the spin-off links, IIRC.

Gwen, who will be moderating Thursday, might just not be the impartial host one might take her for.

I know, your surprised.

577 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:44:43pm

re: #141 newsjunkie_ky

I'm really sorry to hear of your loss. Sending you a virtual hug, hon.

578 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:44:46pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

Yeah scary stuff with Sarah Palin......NOT.

579 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:45:02pm

re: #570 jcw46

Don't you start or I'll give you such a smack .....

I will knock it off. It only feeds him anyway.

580 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:45:14pm

re: #551 timinnc


Geez, only 23% yes. Get to work Lizards.

581 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:45:36pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

You can't see her as president because she's a creationist? Have we had a president who didn't believe in a creation account? I'm an atheist and I have no problem with her.

582 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:45:47pm

re: #557 x-wing

What can we do to get him to leave already. He is a real downer.


Are you talking about EIDE?

583 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:45:59pm

re: #531 maddogg

Arkansas (like the rest of the South) is so in the bag for McCain that the local Republican office does not even bother to open. To get a bumper sticker I would have to order one. No signs, no calls for money, nuttin'.

Same here in KY. They called to see if I would volunteer. I said yes, but that I don't drive so could someone pick me up (semi-moonbat daughter would never take me there). Nope couldn't do that. Asked for a sign for McCain and McConnell. Still haven't seen it, even though they said I would get them.
Made at my mail carrier. My picture of McCain/Palin was all crumpled up and stuffed into my small mailbox.
I've decided to be cranky.

584 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:46:17pm

re: #566 Wishing

I think we have a troll in da house

I think that the mornings now have a sock back after repeated bannings. I could be wrong.

585 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:46:55pm

Please, please, please, for the love of God please, tell me that Republicans are quietly sitting back, letting the democrats unleash their lecturing, condescending, preaching tone about, "we are bailing the Republican party". And that they are going to unleash the truth upon the country like a hurricane blowing in at a later date, when the democrats have nowhere to hide.

Please tell me that.

586 Archimedes  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:46:59pm

re: #494 formercorpsman

Wow, Drudge jumped on this.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

What? You can't have a moderator who is that biased.

587 spirochete  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:47:05pm

re: #564 ggt

Night 3-wood, thank you so much for your input the last couple of days.

Definitely agree, I've learned so much following the threads here. Didn't know I didn't know so much about economics.

588 Palandine  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:47:11pm

re: #42 n in wi

which movie will gross more;
Bill Mahar's "Religous"or "American Carol"

American Carol.

People like to have positive, funny entertainment.

They don't like paying $10 to be told for 2 hours that their most deeply held beliefs are stupid by a talentless weirdo.

589 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:47:13pm

re: #484 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh Geez! I'm Late? Guess I didn't catch an elbow after all!

Whooo hoooo!

No. I meant my punch-line. Your timing is impeccable for a fat bastard.

590 maddogg  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:47:27pm

When you come up with repellant for EIDE, also consider how to get rid of that moron shortsword. He's too stupid to leave on his own.

591 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:47:34pm

re: #582 Typicalwhitey

DON'T INVOKE THAT NIC!

592 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:47:57pm

re: #581 merrytexas

You can't see her as president because she's a creationist? Have we had a president who didn't believe in a creation account? I'm an atheist and I have no problem with her.


About ten people have responded and they won't answer.

GAZE

593 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:48:00pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.


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594 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:48:21pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here

Me too, but I disagree with 100% of what you put on here.

595 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:48:52pm

re: #586 Archimedes

Well, some bias.

596 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:48:58pm

re: #529 banjo

Doesn't strike you that Charles has been running the hell out of anti-ID postings even to the point where people were openly irritated with it yet he does not seem to as much of a problem with her as you do?

It's your opinion but I would urge you to take a larger view.

597 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:49:02pm

re: #594 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Me too, but I disagree with 100% of what you put on here.

Environmentally unfriendly bottled Water spew!

598 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:49:15pm

re: #590 maddogg

When you come up with repellant for EIDE, also consider how to get rid of that moron shortsword. He's too stupid to leave on his own.

Just do not answer him/it.

I was so pissed last night that I was almost crying.

599 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:49:46pm

re: #529 banjo

They're coming out of the woodwork! We suddenly have no shortage of people who registered last year and have had next to nothing to say until now. And surprise! it's negative and doom and gloom.

600 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:49:52pm

re: #568 Sharmuta

We should take Walter's advice.

So no more GAZE, just the cone, got it.

601 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:49:54pm

re: #582 Typicalwhitey

Are you talking about EIDE?

Yes. The problem with him is the extent to which he makes the thread about him. He also counsels passivity, exactly the wrong policy these days. In general, he acts as a anchor on us actually getting anything done. He's the deadliest kind of troll; an effective one.

602 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:49:57pm
603 swamprat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:50:08pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

To what do you attribute your lack of independent thought? I jumped into someone right at the start. You can find mindless drones at The Daily KOS. We encourage informed debate. Try it.

604 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:50:23pm

re: #585 cliffster

Please, please, please, for the love of God please, tell me that Republicans are quietly sitting back, letting the democrats unleash their lecturing, condescending, preaching tone about, "we are bailing the Republican party". And that they are going to unleash the truth upon the country like a hurricane blowing in at a later date, when the democrats have nowhere to hide.

Please tell me that.


House Republicans are working on their own plan.

605 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:50:52pm

re: #599 Killer Tomato

They're coming out of the woodwork! We suddenly have no shortage of people who registered last year and have had next to nothing to say until now. And surprise! it's negative and doom and gloom.

Dormant lib cells waiting to strike

606 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:07pm

re: #604 merrytexas

House Republicans are working on their own plan.

They need an outlet. Who is giving them a voice?

607 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:20pm

re: #585 cliffster

I'm afraid it won't happen, or at least not in the manner we would hope for. I've become convinced that a lot of Repub legislators are actually intimidated by their Dem counterparts. The fear is probably somewhat well-founded, because as we have seen so many times in the past, a Dem/MSM retaliation smear can be the kiss of death,

608 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:40pm
609 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:43pm

More on the Cloward-Piven Strategy. Seems Rudy Gulilani is wise to it. yes, it's a shameless spin-off plug. I wouldn't post in the spin-off's if I didn't think it was important.

610 Palandine  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:48pm

re: #76 Outrider

And I don't have a bunch of idiots *talking on cell phones *talking with each other *reciting lines or giving spoilers *manchilds throwing popcorn *rolling cans down the aisle *babies crying (can't get a sitter?) *being puked on (yes that happened at a movie years back-Apocalypse Now if I recall, all over my back...and I'm the one that got tossed from the theater)

;-)>

I feel your pain, but if we want more quality conservative or even moderate entertainment, we do have to patronize it when it comes along.

/looking forward to Friday--Kelsey Grammar looks great as Patton

611 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:49pm

re: #582 Typicalwhitey

Are you talking about EIDE?

Yep, heard he was on here crying again today. Like that's anything new.

612 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:49pm

re: #599 Killer Tomato

They're coming out of the woodwork! We suddenly have no shortage of people who registered last year and have had next to nothing to say until now. And surprise! it's negative and doom and gloom.

Sheesh.. How do they remember their passwords?

613 cblesz[deleted]  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:54pm
614 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:57pm

re: #572 merrytexas

Thank you, Matt Drudge! It should be #1 headline everywhere.


Absolutely.

615 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:51:59pm

re: #602 Noam Sayin'

An upding and a favorite!

616 Archimedes  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:52:10pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

She says she is? Hmm, I thought she said she believes in evolution. Maybe I miss interpreted.

617 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:52:32pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....

That's actually statistically impossible since "what's on here" is often different sides of an argument as people debate, and share different sides of opinion.

618 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:52:46pm

re: #600 x-wing

So no more GAZE, just the cone, got it.

consider it DONE

619 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:53:11pm

re: #577 Catttt

I'm really sorry to hear of your loss. Sending you a virtual hug, hon.


Thanks Catttt.

620 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:53:15pm

re: #602 Noam Sayin'

The only way that would be prefect is to put "please" on the end of the invective.

621 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:53:25pm

re: #613 cblesz

Watch that the door doesn't hit you...

622 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:53:28pm

re: #576 formercorpsman

This was mentioned earlier in either a different thread, or the spin-off links, IIRC.

Gwen, who will be moderating Thursday, might just not be the impartial host one might take her for.

I know, your surprised.

Yeah, I'm shocked.
/

623 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:53:39pm

re: #612 cliffster

Probably their passwords are 1-2-3. Makes it simple for them.

624 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:53:41pm

re: #613 cblesz

Charles, let the freaking creationist issue go. Jesus, there are more freaking important things in this election.

Can't you just skip a thread if you don't like the issue?

625 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:54:18pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

banjo

Registered since: Nov 27, 2007 at 7:00 pm
No. of comments posted: 8
No. of links posted: 0

Nuff Said

626 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:54:20pm

sorry banjo...

the fact that 0bama would leave a living breathing baby to die in a closet scares me.
the fact that a Ky congressman said not to let 0bama near the nuke button scares me
the fact that he considers himself a god scares me
the fact that idiots have their children singing hymns to him scares me.
the fact that he is a narcissistic power-mad fool that will do anything or anyone to get in office scares me.
the fact that everything coming out of his mouth is a lie scares me
the fact no one knows anything about him and his past has been covered up or destroyed scares me
the fact he calls upon his people to "argue and get in the faces" of anyone disagreeing with him scares me.
the fact that people are calling him the messiah and saviour scares me

Actually, thinking about it, these things don't scare me - they piss me off.
So Sarah believes in G-d creating the earth - BFD.
It's nothing compared to what that deluded Chicago gangster believes.

627 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:54:24pm

re: #582 Typicalwhitey

Are you talking about EIDE?

re: #591 MandyManners

DON'T INVOKE THAT NIC!

It's like Beetlejuice.

628 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:54:30pm

re: #616 Archimedes

She says she is? Hmm, I thought she said she believes in evolution. Maybe I miss interpreted.

No you didn't .......banjo did.

629 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:54:47pm

re: #620 unclassifiable

I'm still chuckling.

630 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:01pm

re: #607 Cartman

I'm afraid it won't happen, or at least not in the manner we would hope for. I've become convinced that a lot of Repub legislators are actually intimidated by their Dem counterparts. The fear is probably somewhat well-founded, because as we have seen so many times in the past, a Dem/MSM retaliation smear can be the kiss of death,

That's crap. Reagan faced the same shit, and he pushed through it. Dammit, where is Reagan?

631 maddogg  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:03pm

re: #611 x-wing

Yep, heard he was on here crying again today. Like that's anything new.

She is talking about this moron.

632 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:03pm

re: #608 formercorpsman

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Can. not. watch. that. still. creeps. me. out.

633 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:06pm

re: #627 jcw46

It's like Beetlejuice.

Three times and . . .

634 banjo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:15pm

re: #534 jaunte

It scares me because it speaks of her analytical abilities. On this website there was apost showing the lunacy of the creationsist museum. this is what this woman believes. Secondly, as we have already learned from Obama and his "bull", just cause she says things like she doesnt want it taught in science class, there are lesser ways she can influence this. Creationism is just another form of religion and I just dont think it has a place in the white house.

I respect everyone on here and love the site , but it is so hard to embrace her. I am surprised to read so many people on here just jumping on board this bandwagon. If she had been a democrat I think we would all be bringing this garbage she believes in up and ripping her apart. I dont think the questions Katie Couric is asking is partisan. they are so simple and to listen to her answers are terrifying to me. Its just my opinion, no disrespect meant to anyone on here

635 Charles  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:21pm

Comments telling me to stop posting about evolution will be deleted. Continuing to post such comments will lead to accounts being blocked.

I've completely had it with this crap.

636 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:26pm

re: #618 Wishing

Dead Link

637 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:30pm

Well, good evening all y'all! What have I missed so far?!

638 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:41pm

re: #611 x-wing

Yep, heard he was on here crying again today. Like that's anything new.

I gave it suicide tips.

/it whined about that too

639 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:49pm

re: #632 newsjunkie_ky

I've been here too long.

It is almost a sickness by now.

640 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:58pm

re: #529 banjo

Well, at least you've been polite.

Heh™

I have a feeling that one's going to come in handy over the next month.

641 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:56:59pm

Lizards,

How many times have you said " OK, just 15 more minutes" then an hour goes by and you say " Ok, just 15 minutes. I mean it this time"

642 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:57:15pm

re: #610 Palandine

I feel your pain, but if we want more quality conservative or even moderate entertainment, we do have to patronize it when it comes along.

/looking forward to Friday--Kelsey Grammar looks great as Patton

Wish there were some more Lexington Lizards to go to see this in a group.

643 wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:57:19pm

banjo's new cone

644 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:57:49pm

I think EIDE is a "concern troll."

645 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:58:21pm

re: #626 nightintheruts

Now those are things to be scared of.
/great post by the way. :)

646 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:58:28pm

re: #641 Shug
Hey Shug! Only about eleventymillion times is all!
LOL!

647 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:58:30pm

re: #635 Charles

Comments telling me to stop posting about evolution will be deleted. Continuing to post such comments will lead to accounts being blocked.

I've completely had it with this crap.

Can the negative dings stay up on a deleted comment?

I like to be on the right side of history. Kind of like Mccain and the surge.

648 formercorpsman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:58:33pm

I'm out man.

Take it easy guys.

649 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:58:42pm

re: #601 Dark_Falcon
Are you talking about "outdated data interface"

STOP IT. You'll attract it's attention.

650 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:58:51pm

re: #621 Killer Tomato

Watch that the door doesn't hit you...

What the hell was that about?

651 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:58:51pm

re: #551 timinnc

Here’s another worthless survey regarding Sarah Palin that deserves our influence to skew their hopeful outcome. :-)

If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Palin be competent to be President?

[Link: ahpoll.com...]

- TiminNC

She'd be far more qualified than 0bama or Biden, and that's what matters.
Actually, I have several dogs that would be more qualified to be president than 0bama or Biden. (They're poodles; intelligent and strong on defense)

652 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:58:53pm

I think every time the resident pessimist is mentioned, his attention needs are being filled.

653 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:59:02pm

re: #627 jcw46

You putting him in the same category as otingoC?

654 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:59:04pm

In the interview at the top of the thread Couric wants to know what "magazines, media" formed Palin's worldview.


Man what a snot

As if magazines/media are all important.

Stunning bias, and smallness, and narcissism on Couric's part

655 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:59:04pm

re: #641 Shug

Lizards,

How many times have you said " OK, just 15 more minutes" then an hour goes by and you say " Ok, just 15 minutes. I mean it this time"

. . . and the next thing you know, you glance out the window and see the sunrise.

But still, just 15 minutes more.

Yep. Been there.

656 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:59:08pm

re: #644 MandyManners

I think EIDE is a "concern troll."

Breaking the species into breeds?

657 banjo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:59:13pm

re: #599 Killer Tomato

Killer I have been reading this site for year and was only able to register when i manged to get into that window. I have stated here that I support most of what is on this site...really. That being said, I think we should be able to have a difference of opinion without bashing someone.

658 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:59:15pm

re: #637 realwest

Well, good evening all y'all! What have I missed so far?!

Someone was looking for you earlier, but I forget who.
(wow - I'd make a crappy secretary)

659 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:59:27pm

re: #630 cliffster

That's crap. Reagan faced the same shit, and he pushed through it. Dammit, where is Reagan?

Well then, if it's "crap" why isn't it happening? Huh?

660 Palandine  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 8:59:36pm

re: #642 newsjunkie_ky

Wish there were some more Lexington Lizards to go to see this in a group.

Aw hell, I'm in the People's Republic of St. Louis. I'll consier it a good sign if there's 10 people in the theater with me.

/Smiling at the thought of Michael Moore being slapped multiple times

661 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:25pm

re: #650 x-wing

What the hell was that about?

See post #635.

662 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:27pm

re: #656 SpartanWoman

Breaking the species into breeds?

Apparently there are types of trolls.

663 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:29pm

re: #635 Charles
I sure hope those comments you get are from newbies - you've said it often enough that there's really no excuse for anyone who's been on LGF for oh a month or so, not to know better than to tell you what to post!

664 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:30pm

re: #641 Shug

For me, it's the "I'll just check what's been posted in the Spin-off's" that get's me.

665 Racer X  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:36pm
666 spirochete  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:36pm

It still blows me away how rude Obama was interrupting McCain during the debate.

667 jaunte  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:37pm

re: #634 banjo

One, even if she was a charter member of the Discovery Institute, I would probalby prefer her to Obama.
Two, the veep is not going to have a lot of influence over the state of each school district's education policies.
Three, saying this:
"Creationism is just another form of religion and I just dont think it has a place in the white house" makes me a bit suspicious of where you're really coming from. Religion has been a part of our traditions here in America, and Palin is not a big change from that tradition.

668 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:57pm

re: #652 Sharmuta

I think every time the resident pessimist is mentioned, his attention needs are being filled.

When you said you were finally leaving the last thread, I posted...

"Can I kiss your cute little blue cheek goodnight? My worthy leader!"

669 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:00:59pm

re: #635 Charles

I've completely had it with this crap.

Thank Zeus/Thor/Jupiter, er, Charles!

670 flynmudd  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:01:17pm

re: #634 banjo

Why don't you go play on the porch?

671 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:01:28pm

re: #646 realwest

Hey rw! How you doin'?

672 West Coast Freedom  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:01:31pm

But, it exposed a lurking troll you guys had

673 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:01:50pm

We need to send McCain this.

674 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:01:54pm

re: #638 Killian Bundy

I gave it suicide tips.

/it whined about that too


I saw that last night. lol, I can't believe a wussy like that calls himself a conservative.

Dork fits him better.

675 mitthrawnurdo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:02:13pm

re: #652 Sharmuta

Hey, I resent that inference to me!

/Oh, wait... n/m, lol.

676 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:02:28pm

re: #660 Palandine

Aw hell, I'm in the People's Republic of St. Louis. I'll consier it a good sign if there's 10 people in the theater with me.

/Smiling at the thought of Michael Moore being slapped multiple times

Every time I go to a movie (about once every two or three years), there are about 10 people in the theater with me. People's Republic of Maryland.

677 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:02:35pm

re: #659 Cartman

Well then, if it's "crap" why isn't it happening? Huh?

Why do you always respond like this? Your confrontational response to ME aside, I think it's crap that elected officials don't stand up for what they believe in.

678 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:03:24pm

re: #634 banjo

It scares me because it speaks of her analytical abilities. On this website there was apost showing the lunacy of the creationsist museum. this is what this woman believes. Secondly, as we have already learned from Obama and his "bull", just cause she says things like she doesnt want it taught in science class, there are lesser ways she can influence this. Creationism is just another form of religion and I just dont think it has a place in the white house.

I respect everyone on here and love the site , but it is so hard to embrace her. I am surprised to read so many people on here just jumping on board this bandwagon. If she had been a democrat I think we would all be bringing this garbage she believes in up and ripping her apart. I dont think the questions Katie Couric is asking is partisan. they are so simple and to listen to her answers are terrifying to me. Its just my opinion, no disrespect meant to anyone on here


wow

679 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:03:39pm

re: #658 Killer Tomato
Well KT, thanks for letting me know, anyway! Was it someone friendly or someone I've pissed off?!

680 Racer X  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:03:42pm

I think Palin is smart enough to understand the whole "separation of church and state" thing.

Just about every other (vice) president has been able to do it.

How many atheists have been president?

681 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:04:23pm

re: #637 realwest

Evening Real. Someone was looking for info on Clintons blanket pardon for Nam draft dodgers/LTH discharges. Other than that, just the usual bloodletting and troll stomping. You?

682 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:04:52pm

Much better interview. Loved how she called Katie on the Alaskans are hicks insinuation. Very glad the feisty Sarah's back.

683 mitthrawnurdo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:04:53pm

re: #7 USA

When will PBS have a poll asking if Obama is qualified to be President?

/Not holding my breath.

684 Maximu§  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:04:54pm

re: #530 ggt

I just heard the name "Jamie Gorelick" on that video I posted. I was hoping never to hear that name again.

I'm hoping never to see her face again.

685 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:04:55pm

re: #660 Palandine

Aw hell, I'm in the People's Republic of St. Louis. I'll consier it a good sign if there's 10 people in the theater with me.

/Smiling at the thought of Michael Moore being slapped multiple times


My daughter might take a position with SLU med school next year. If so, I'll be visiting.

686 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:05:08pm

re: #679 realwest

I believe it was someone who was concerned that they hadn't seen you around.
Good to see you, BTW!

687 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:05:10pm

re: #641 Shug

Lizards,

How many times have you said " OK, just 15 more minutes" then an hour goes by and you say " Ok, just 15 minutes. I mean it this time"

It's not a disease, it's an addiction.

688 pingjockey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:05:22pm

re: #634 banjo
I haven't seen anything that says/proves Gov. Palin is a creatonist that wants creationism taught as science in public schools.

689 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:05:26pm

re: #679 realwest

See #521

690 musicman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:05:33pm

re: #529 banjo

I love lgf and agree with 99% of whats on here.....but I just can't get behind this woman at all. She is a creationist....whether or not she wants it taught in schools is irrelvent to me....the fact that she is a creationist in of itself scares me. There were so many better candidates for McCain to pick. I mean...I just cant see her as president. This is the first time I have disagreed with posts on here.

Just got back today from SW Utah. I saw Zion National Park, Bryce Canyon National Park and Cedar Breaks! I do believe in God the Creator. How anyone can see all that beauty and NOT believe in a Creator is beyond me. It reminded me of a verse in the Bible, "The fool says in his heart there is no God."

691 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:05:40pm

re: #629 Noam Sayin'

It looks like something every friend I ever grew up with would do.

692 right_on_target  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:05:43pm

re: #143 rawmuse

Part II
My final encounter with McCain was on the morning that he was leaving
Turtle Island. Amy and I were happily eating pancakes when McCain
arrived and told Amy that she shouldn't be having pancakes because she
needed to lose weight. Amy burst into tears at this abusive comment. I
felt fiercely protective of Amy and immediately turned to McCain and
told him to leave her alone. He became very angry and abusive towards
me, and said, "Don't you know who I am." I looked him in the face and
said, "Yes, you are the biggest asshole I have ever met" and headed
back to my cabin. I am happy to say that later that day - when I
arrived at lunch - I was given a standing ovation by all the guests
for having stood up to McCain's bullying.
Although I have shared my McCain story informally with friends, this
is the first time I am making it public. I almost did so in 2000, when
McCain first announced his bid for the Republican nomination, but it
soon became apparent that George Bush was the shoo-in candidate and so
I did not act then. However, now that there is a very real possibility
that McCain could be elected as our next president, I feel it is my
duty as an American citizen to share this story. I can't imagine a
more scary outcome for America than that this abusive, aggressive man
should lead our nation. I have observed him in intimate surroundings
as he really is, not how the media portrays him to be. If his
attitudes toward women and his treatment of his own family are even a
small indicator of his real personality, then I shudder to think what
will happen to America were he to be elected as our President.
--
Mary-Kay Gamel
Professor of Classics, Comparative Literature, and Theater Arts Cowell
College University of California, Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California

______________________
She has a book entitled Revising "Authenticity" in Staging Ancient Mediterranean Drama which kind of hints that maybe she knows how elicit sympathy as a drama queen.

693 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:06:02pm

re: #665 Racer X

Gaah! I can't take it anymore!


That bit always cracks me up.

694 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:06:36pm

re: #662 MandyManners
The good, the Bad and the ugly?!
;')

695 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:06:39pm

re: #679 realwest

Well KT, thanks for letting me know, anyway! Was it someone friendly or someone I've pissed off?!

''

It was ME!

696 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:06:55pm

re: #677 cliffster

Why do you always respond like this? Your confrontational response to ME aside, I think it's crap that elected officials don't stand up for what they believe in.

Reread my initial comment. It was not confrontational, nor directed at you personally. It was a general observation, based on opinion. Grow some thicker scales, cliffster.

697 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:07:09pm

re: #634 banjo

banjo --we do welcome challenge -- it is appreciated when it is accompanied by supporting links. We like to debate on facts. Opinion without substantiating evidence is just an invitation for being BBQ'd.

698 nightintheruts  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:07:16pm

re: #645 Suzette

Now those are things to be scared of.
/great post by the way. :)


thank you = )

that was my soap box for the night.

699 mitthrawnurdo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:07:25pm

re: #682 rednaxela

Feisty is good. It is unfortunate though that none of the LGF women were in that room. I'd love to see someone like Mandy rip into Katie...

700 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:07:53pm

re: #653 Bubblehead II

You putting him in the same category as otingoC?

I never experienced otingoC but yeah.

701 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:07:56pm

re: #678 Typicalwhitey

wow

Does it pass the sniff test to you? I'm wondering....

702 nigella  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:08:09pm

Sorry if you all mentioned this but the moderator for the VP debate, Ifill has written a kiss up book about Obama coming out in January. Fair and balanced.... I think not... By the way I just welcomed my forth grandchild today, Liam Robert. Makes all this other stuff pale in comparison!

703 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:08:16pm

re: #671 ggt
Hey ggt, I'm doing ok - thanks! How are you doing this evening? Uh, early morning?!

704 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:08:24pm

re: #679 realwest

Well KT, thanks for letting me know, anyway! Was it someone friendly or someone I've pissed off?!


they kept screaming allah akbar or something like that in the background RealWest.

705 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:08:52pm

re: #663 realwest


Hey real, typical whitey was looking for you.

706 pingjockey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:08:55pm

re: #692 right_on_target
Hmmmm....I call BULLSHIT on her story. What is it with liberals? Pancakes and waffles all the time.

707 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:08:59pm

re: #665 Racer X

Rofl!

708 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:09:00pm

re: #701 merrytexas

Does it pass the sniff test to you? I'm wondering....

Oh it SMELLS alright..........

709 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:09:01pm

re: #702 nigella

welcome Little Liam !

Contrats

710 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:09:05pm

Good evening, guys. I've been at school almost all day. Any interesting articles, news, or polls to be concerned about?

711 mitthrawnurdo  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:09:13pm

re: #702 nigella

Congrats!

/Why can't someone like Rush ever moderate a debate?

712 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:09:27pm

Should Congress Be 'Perp-Walked'?

/that'd get rid of a lot of corruption

713 Thom  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:09:55pm

Evolution, creationism, whatever. Here's how I see things: in my daughter's 8th grade "literature" textbook there are three - THREE - reading selctions from the collected ouevres of Barack O'Bama. I don't care if Palin thinks the world was created on October 23, 4004 B.C., if anyone can influence even by a tiny bit the ridiculous leftism of public education, I'm all for that person.

But, as a Maryland Republican, my vote for president is irrelevant. So this election year, I'm going to write in Joad Cressbeckler for prez!

714 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:09:57pm

Sharmuta?

715 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:09:59pm

re: #709 Shug

welcome Little Liam !

Contrats


congrats.

716 Palandine  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:10:05pm

re: #685 newsjunkie_ky

My daughter might take a position with SLU med school next year. If so, I'll be visiting.

Excellent school in the middle of a beautiful city with many good qualities--affordable, mostly friendly, historic.

Fair amounts of crime, but usually restricted to easily avoidable areas.

Terrible public schools.

One-party rule for almost 60 years.

Despite this, it's a great place and I love it. When it gets closer to your visit, let me know.

717 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:10:14pm

re: #696 Cartman

Reread my initial comment. It was not confrontational, nor directed at you personally. It was a general observation, based on opinion. Grow some thicker scales, cliffster.

My apologies. I've had harsher comments from you in the past (I think somewhere along the lines of, "If I want your opinion, I'll ask for it") that came out of left field, that I'm bringing to the current times. Of course, that may have been late, some saturday night, after you wrecked your car...

718 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:10:54pm

re: #702 nigella

How wonderful! Nice to have some perspective, huh?

719 average_guy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:10:56pm

OT, but that never stopped me before....
Years of bad decisions and stupid mistakes have created an economic nightmare in this country, but $700 billion in new debt is not the answer. As a tax-paying American citizen, I will not support any congressperson who votes to implement such a policy. Instead, I submit the following three steps:

Common Sense Plan.

I. INSURANCE

A. Insure the subprime bonds/mortgages with an underlying FHA-type insurance. Government-insured and backed loans would have an instant market all over the world, creating immediate and needed liquidity.

B. In order for a company to accept the government-backed insurance, they must do two things:

1. Rewrite any mortgage that is more than three months delinquent to a 6% fixed-rate mortgage.
a. Roll all back payments with no late fees or legal costs into the balance. This brings homeowners current and allows them a chance to keep their homes.
b. Cancel all prepayment penalties to encourage refinancing or the sale of the property to pay off the bad loan. In the event of foreclosure or short sale, the borrower will not be held liable for any deficit balance. FHA does this now, and that encourages mortgage companies to go the extra mile while
working with the borrower—again limiting foreclosures and ruined lives.

2. Cancel ALL golden parachutes of EXISTING and FUTURE CEOs and executive team members as long as the company holds these government-insured bonds/mortgages. This keeps underperforming executives from being paid when they don’t do their jobs.

C. This backstop will cost less than $50 billion—a small fraction of the current proposal.


II. MARK TO MARKET

A. Remove mark to market accounting rules for two years on only subprime Tier III bonds/mortgages. This keeps companies from being forced to artificially mark down bonds/mortgages below the value of the underlying mortgages and real estate.

B. This move creates patience in the market and has an immediate stabilizing effect on failing and ailing banks—and it costs the taxpayer nothing.


III. CAPITAL GAINS TAX

A. Remove the capital gains tax completely. Investors will flood the real estate and stock market in search of tax-free profits, creating tremendous—and immediate—liquidity in the markets. Again, this costs the taxpayer nothing.

B. This move will be seen as a lightning rod politically because many will say it is helping the rich. The truth is the rich will benefit, but it will be their money that stimulates the economy. This will enable all Americans to have more stable jobs and retirement investments that go up instead of down. This is not a time for envy, and it’s not a time for politics. It’s time for all of us, as Americans, to
stand up, speak out, and fix this mess.

720 spirochete  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:10:58pm

re: #692 right_on_target

I love how the final lines at the bottom, detailing her book, sort of puts the story into context...

721 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:11:09pm

re: #711 mitthrawnurdo

Congrats!

/Why can't someone like Rush ever moderate a debate?

That would be fine except the left would have Tina Fey moderate the next debate..

722 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:11:47pm

re: #703 realwest

It's late evening here, still. I'm hangin' in there, thanks for askin'!
Still allergied out, but it will be over soon. Weather is coolin' off.

723 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:11:54pm

re: #702 nigella

Yeah I've been worried about that "moderator" too. Sarah will just need to insist that Biden gets asked the same questions.

Anyway, I'm much happier after this latest interview. I think the McCain people understood that Sarah is much more effective if she's not put on some tight Bush-handler leash.

724 pingjockey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:12:19pm

Night folks.

725 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:12:20pm

OK - I watched the vid. She did well.

I liked when she talked about energy, in particular.

Re evolution, she pretty much shares my view. Evolution is science and belongs in the classroom. My dad was a science teacher too. Sometimes I feel as if I am Sarah Palin, except I am not a governor.

Apt Einstein quotes:

Quantum mechanics is certainly imposing. But an inner voice tells me that it is not yet the real thing. The theory says a lot, but does not really bring us any closer to the secret of the 'old one'. I, at any rate, am convinced that He does not throw dice.

From The Born-Einstein Letters

The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.

From The Merging of Spirit and Science

726 Celtic Templar  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:12:29pm

re: #687 jcw46

It's not a disease, it's an addiction.

It's that damn "new comments" button - makes it sooooo easy.

727 nigella  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:12:31pm

Thank you for the congrats. I do care for the sake of all my grandchildren and all your children and grandchildren that Obama doesn't get elected. I will fight with all I have to see to it it doesn't happen.

728 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:12:53pm

re: #678 Typicalwhitey
WoW? Isn't there something, ah, stronger you'd like to say?
;')
How are you tonight my friend?

729 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:13:03pm

re: #634 banjo

It scares me because it speaks of her analytical abilities. On this website there was apost showing the lunacy of the creationsist museum. this is what this woman believes. Secondly, as we have already learned from Obama and his "bull", just cause she says things like she doesnt want it taught in science class, there are lesser ways she can influence this. Creationism is just another form of religion and I just dont think it has a place in the white house.

I respect everyone on here and love the site , but it is so hard to embrace her. I am surprised to read so many people on here just jumping on board this bandwagon. If she had been a democrat I think we would all be bringing this garbage she believes in up and ripping her apart. I dont think the questions Katie Couric is asking is partisan. they are so simple and to listen to her answers are terrifying to me. Its just my opinion, no disrespect meant to anyone on here

If you've follow the "evolution" of our understanding of Gov. Palin's stance on this issue, it seems clear to me that her stance is basically identical to my own: that the biblical story of Creation is an analog interpretation of evolution as understood by the scholars of the times, and simply an explanation of "why it's all here" based upon a theistic viewpoint of the world.

Creationism does not negate evolution, nor is the inverse true. They are different viewpoints, one based upon religious beliefs and the other on scientific knowlege, and considering that the two are many hundreds of years apart and vastly apart in the knowledge bases upon which each is based, it's hardly surprising that they are so different, but still maintain such fundamental similarities, such as the absolute awe of the potential of a higher power in the creation and evolution of our universe.

I think it's disrespectful of both for anyone to insist on the black and white of this is right and this is wrong for two such dissimilar things. Sarah Palin isn't asking for religious creation to be taught in schools.

Yet you disqualify her? Who is your handler?

730 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:13:10pm

re: #717 cliffster

Well, I haven't wrecked my car (yet) this year, but if I have insulted you in the past, I apologize. Let's cyber-shake, and get on with the business at hand, OK?

731 Racer X  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:13:15pm

re: #693 newsjunkie_ky

That bit always cracks me up.

Me too!

I like to throw it out here when things are getting too serious.

732 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:14:57pm

re: #681 Bubblehead II Good early morning to you! Clinton? Wasn't it - in fact I know it WAS Jimmy Carter who pardoned the draft dodgers who went to Canada, Sweden or went "underground here in the US". Or were they talking about the Weather underground folks?!

733 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:15:05pm

I haven't seen that video on the train lately. Who posts that?

734 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:15:05pm

re: #702 nigella

Sorry if you all mentioned this but the moderator for the VP debate, Ifill has written a kiss up book about Obama coming out in January. Fair and balanced.... I think not... By the way I just welcomed my forth grandchild today, Liam Robert. Makes all this other stuff pale in comparison!

I have a different take. To me, it makes all this other stuff even more important.
I don't want the future of these children in the hands of BHO and his minions and every time I look at my little guy I hope and pray this world and this great nation of ours have a man in charge who is not named Barry

735 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:15:17pm

re: #728 realwest

Doing good and yourself?
I was kind of down in the dumps this morning but I kicked myself in the ass and got a new attitude!

736 Irene NYC  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:15:25pm

re: #713 Thom

No vote is irrelevant. Especially for the presidency. Do you really want to hear another four years of something akin to "selected not elected" - which is a real possibility if McCain, say, loses the popular vote but wins the EC and some democratic lawyers take the results of a Florida or Ohio through the court system?

A president who wins both the EC and the popular vote is always in a better position than one who loses the popular but wins the EC.

Vote.

737 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:16:05pm

re: #694 realwest

The good, the Bad and the ugly?!
;')


Showdown at LGF!

738 CommonCents  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:16:12pm

All I've been hearing about the "Palin Interviews" is that she was like a deer in the headlights. I just watched 10 minutes of foriegn policy and didn't see that. I don't see it in this video either. Granted the last question of the economic interview when Perky asked her to name one piece of legislation that McCain had proposed except the most relevant one that would have addressed some of this turmoil, she did stumble. But that was ONE question. I can only assume this is a bunch of echo chamber noise and if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.

She is doing fine.

OT: Raiders fire Lane Kiffin.

739 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:16:27pm

re: #634 banjo

You're a fucking troll.

740 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:16:30pm

re: #732 realwest

I never understood how Carter, a former career military person, could have done that.

Oh, I forgot --fame and fortune, and votes.

741 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:16:57pm

re: #681 Bubblehead II

Evening Real. Someone was looking for info on Clintons blanket pardon for Nam draft dodgers/LTH discharges. Other than that, just the usual bloodletting and troll stomping. You?

Correction; Carters blanket pardon for Nam draft dodgers re: Kerry pardoned by carter?

As I recall it was actually amnesty offered to anyone who left the country to avoid the draft or who managed to stay in country and not get caught. I believe that there was also a requirement to do some kind of public service. I believe not too many took advantage as there wasn't any downside for their current situation. I don't think Kerry would have been included in this just for violating some reserve rules. someone suggested that you might know more about this.

742 Palandine  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:17:21pm

re: #692 right_on_target

______________________
She has a book entitled Revising "Authenticity" in Staging Ancient Mediterranean Drama which kind of hints that maybe she knows how elicit sympathy as a drama queen.

Good grief! A comment McCain made about someone's BREAKFAST has come back to haunt him? And this darling held onto her agony for 8 years? The horror, the horror. A hint to the wilting authress, who never heard of such cruelty--my dad's in his 70s and a war vet. Pretty much every man I know who is in his 70s is a vet. These tend to be straight-talking men and sometimes they can be blunt. In the real world this is often seen as a feature, not a bug.

They're coming out of the woodwork against McCain, yet hey can't find all his college buddies he wrote about--you know, the good times smking pot and snorting coke, talking leftist ideology. Funy, that...

743 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:17:22pm

re: #739 MandyManners

You're a fucking troll.

Tell it like it is, Mandy!

744 Irene NYC  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:17:30pm

Hi real! Hope all is well.
;)

745 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:17:40pm

re: #719 average_guy

II. MARK TO MARKET

A. Remove mark to market accounting rules for two years on only subprime Tier III bonds/mortgages. This keeps companies from being forced to artificially mark down bonds/mortgages below the value of the underlying mortgages and real estate.

B. This move creates patience in the market and has an immediate stabilizing effect on failing and ailing banks—and it costs the taxpayer

That's true and a good idea, but it's not a transparent solution.

/some way, some how, these mortgage derivatives need to dry out in the bright sunshine

746 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:17:51pm

re: #686 Killer Tomato
Why thank you Killer Tomato! I've been around - as is my wont, usually on the DT and then at night, like now!
Days tend to get filled rapidly when you're retired and the person you live with is retired and you both need medical care from different doc's at different places.
I tell's ya, growing older ain't for wussies!

747 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:18:03pm

re: #736 Irene NYC

I'd like to reach through my flatpanel and choke anyone who says on here that they are thinking about sitting this election out, and not voting. Grrrr!

748 nigella  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:18:19pm

Exactly Shug, I agree it makes it all the more important that Obama be kept from the Presidency.My children and grandchildren are too important to let this impostor take over the most important job in the World.

749 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:18:38pm

re: #725 Catttt

OK - I watched the vid. She did well.

I liked when she talked about energy, in particular.

Re evolution, she pretty much shares my view. Evolution is science and belongs in the classroom. My dad was a science teacher too. Sometimes I feel as if I am Sarah Palin, except I am not a governor.

Apt Einstein quotes:

From The Merging of Spirit and Science

Well, quantum mechanics is what allows free will.
In the Newtonian model, once all positions and motions are known, the future is predictable.
With quantum mechanics, you cannot know both position and momentum together to great accuracy, and beyond that, there is a fundamental "randomness" that cannot be eliminated.

750 CommonCents  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:18:42pm

re: #692 right_on_target

BFD. Maybe Amy did need to lose weight. Wouldn't you rather hear from someone you know?

751 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:18:44pm

re: #739 MandyManners

You're a fucking troll.

You know you really should not try to keep your feelings bottled up like that. It's not good for you.

752 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:19:03pm

re: #716 Palandine
I love St. Louis. She attended Wash U. med school, so I visited a lot. The 2000 election she witnessed the dems giving the homeless booze and cigs to go vote.
We were on the phone till 4 in the morning that night watching FNC and praying for W. to win. She got to meet him before the debate there. She is not the semi-moonbat daughter but a nice Republican. Saved one, lost one.
We will get together. Met some of the NYC Lizards this summer and will see them again soon. Daughter is in NYC for the year.

753 gop_patriot  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:19:15pm

re: #713 Thom

Shot at least seven men for giving him the stink eye

OMG That's hilarious! I'm still laughing!

754 jcm  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:19:43pm

re: #663 realwest

I sure hope those comments you get are from newbies - you've said it often enough that there's really no excuse for anyone who's been on LGF for oh a month or so, not to know better than to tell you what to post!

Come on Real, I double dog dare you!

/ ;-P

How ya' doing to night?

755 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:19:43pm

re: #689 Syrah
Ah, thanks Syrah - already said hi to her! How are you doing this early morn?

756 joecitizen  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:19:58pm

GO. TO. DRUDGE.

757 Opilio  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:20:06pm

re: #687 jcw46

It's not a disease, it's an addiction.

It's not an addiction, it's a community.

758 Wishing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:20:20pm

If anyone missed IowaHawks latest vid, here is link...and
dont miss it!

759 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:20:23pm

re: #730 Cartman

Well, I haven't wrecked my car (yet) this year, but if I have insulted you in the past, I apologize. Let's cyber-shake, and get on with the business at hand, OK?

There I feel better ;)

I feel like it's insane to think that Republicans would sit by and let this racket go down. There's another month and change to go before the election. If they just sit by and get bent over, the only conclusion is a bunch of Republicans intentionally bringing the party down. Otherwise, there's nothing to be gained by being stepped on without fighting back. Stupid.

760 flynmudd  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:20:42pm

re: #739 MandyManners

Mandy, where are your manners? You should have said, you're a fucking troll sir/madam!

/just kidding! I've been giving this "person" grief myself and I rarely post.

761 Racer X  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:20:57pm

Ya know, I just watched that Katie Couric interview again for about the 4th time, and her distaste for Governor Palin just oozes between the lines.

Despicable.

762 unclassifiable  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:21:15pm

re: #756 joecitizen

Matt's going to get a visit from the Obama Truth Squad.

763 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:21:32pm

re: #741 jcw46

On Carter's first day in office, January 20, 1977, he fulfilled a campaign promise by issuing an Executive Order declaring unconditional amnesty for Vietnam War-era draft evaders.[47] [48].

From the wiki entry on President James Carter. Scroll down to read the rest, but this is all there is.

764 kynna  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:21:35pm

re: #634 banjo

It scares me because it speaks of her analytical abilities. On this website there was apost showing the lunacy of the creationsist museum. this is what this woman believes. Secondly, as we have already learned from Obama and his "bull", just cause she says things like she doesnt want it taught in science class, there are lesser ways she can influence this. Creationism is just another form of religion and I just dont think it has a place in the white house.

I respect everyone on here and love the site , but it is so hard to embrace her. I am surprised to read so many people on here just jumping on board this bandwagon. If she had been a democrat I think we would all be bringing this garbage she believes in up and ripping her apart. I dont think the questions Katie Couric is asking is partisan. they are so simple and to listen to her answers are terrifying to me. Its just my opinion, no disrespect meant to anyone on here

So what you're saying is 'Christians need not apply'.

Even though she has clearly said creationism shouldn't be taught as science she should be disqualified simply because she believes in a Creator? You're making a judgement on someone's beliefs even though that person has no wish to force them on you. That's called bigotry.

765 Opilio  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:21:35pm

re: #747 Cartman

I'd like to reach through my flatpanel and choke anyone who says on here that they are thinking about sitting this election out, and not voting. Grrrr!

I am thinking about sitting this election out, and not voting.

///////////////////

766 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:21:43pm

Dorien is still "talking gently" to eIDeOT on the previous thread.

767 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:22:10pm

re: #756 joecitizen

GO. TO. DRUDGE.

The fix is in?

/why does that not surprise me?

768 Sylvester_T_Cat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:22:12pm

re: #417 experiencedtraveller

They get all their money from the California budget. (Source: .pdf file their webpage.)

You can travel through every small or mid sized town in this country and see a storefront, with a logo on the window yet with curtains closed, who advocate some liberal cause at government's expense.

Such 'business' has become a sophisticated enterprise attracting actual business talent with diversified expertise in grant writing, public 'accounting' and politicking! Which I kind of respect in an off-key, capitalist kind of way... But it is all a waste and politically motivated.

Good catch there ;-).

Some of these groups are pretty blatant about using public funds. (As opposed to the sneaky ones like ACORN which have metastasized into places like the fine print of Blarney Frank's bailout bill.) The "Public Interest Research Groups", Ralph Nader's bunch, sometimes use office space on campuses. WashPIRG used to be headquartered, and maybe still is, right in Evergreen College, with an Evergreen phone number even.

Heritage Foundation used to have a project called "De-funding the Left", which looked for egregious examples of government funds being parasitized by leftist NGOs. Heritage must've felt like the Dutch boy with his finger in the dike.

769 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:22:12pm

re: #731 Racer X
Keep posting it. I crack up everytime.

770 Shug  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:22:23pm

re: #748 nigella

Exactly Shug, I agree it makes it all the more important that Obama be kept from the Presidency.My children and grandchildren are too important to let this impostor take over the most important job in the World.

Every time I see your Nic I picture Nigella Lawson.

She's dreamy

771 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:22:31pm

re: #702 nigella
Hey nigella my friend, Mazel Tov! That's great news - hope the mom and dad are doing well?

772 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:22:34pm

re: #756 joecitizen

GO. TO. DRUDGE.

Oh shit.

773 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:23:07pm

re: #755 realwest

Ah, thanks Syrah - already said hi to her! How are you doing this early morn?

Life is good.

774 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:23:43pm

re: #700 jcw46

Consider you're self lucky. He is (IHMO) a shill for the MSM and as slippery as an eel who refuses to take a stand. When confronted he does his best to squirm away. But that is just my opinion.

775 Palandine  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:23:56pm

re: #742 Palandine

yet hey can't find all his the Messiah's college buddies that he wrote about--you know, the good times smking pot and snorting coke, talking leftist ideology. Funny, that...

Preview is My Pal

776 Racer X  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:00pm

re: #733 ggt

I haven't seen that video on the train lately. Who posts that?

This one?

Killgore usually throws it out there.

777 CommonCents  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:00pm

re: #634 banjo

Creationism is just another form of religion and I just dont think it has a place in the white house.

So you will withhold your vote based on her 'religion'?

Would you prefer that all public officials be atheists or believe in nothing? After all you wouldn't want a religion in the White House.

778 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:02pm

re: #736 Irene NYC

No vote is irrelevant. Especially for the presidency. Do you really want to hear another four years of something akin to "selected not elected" - which is a real possibility if McCain, say, loses the popular vote but wins the EC and some democratic lawyers take the results of a Florida or Ohio through the court system?

A president who wins both the EC and the popular vote is always in a better position than one who loses the popular but wins the EC.

Vote.


And didn't MD. pass that law that they are going to give their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote?

779 Maximu§  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:04pm

re: #719 average_guy

You got my vote, but the Democrats would never remove the capital gains tax.

780 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:10pm

re: #759 cliffster

I agree, wholeheartedly. I don't at all understand why, with what is at stake here in this election, that true Repubs don't have the balls to unleash the big guns. Lord knows they have the ammo. It's just maddening, to me.

781 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:18pm

As far as the Probama Moderator.....screw it.

Sarah will still mop the floor with the old man and his hair plugs.

782 spirochete  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:24:39pm

re: #756 joecitizen

GO. TO. DRUDGE.

wow.

783 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:13pm

re: #704 HoosierHoops
Well Hoops, as long as it was in the background - waaay in the background - then I've got time to, ah, prepare my arguements with my consultants Mr. Mossberg and Messrs Smith &Wesson!

784 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:29pm

re: #733 ggt

I haven't seen that video on the train lately. Who posts that?

Chaiya Chaiya?

It's one of Kilgore Trout's finds.

785 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:30pm

re: #742 Palandine

It's a manufactured story. Obviously.

786 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:25:38pm

re: #712 Killian Bundy

Should Congress Be 'Perp-Walked'?

/that'd get rid of a lot of corruption

Help desk guy and I agreed today that perhaps we should vote none of the above on Congress and start from scratch.

787 Racer X  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:05pm

re: #766 Typicalwhitey

I will never respond to Eeyore again. He is a moby and a complete ass.

788 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:20pm

It's time for me to head to bed but, banjo's line trying to compare her with BHO cinched it.

Nighty-night!

789 Irene NYC  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:22pm

re: #778 x-wing

And didn't MD. pass that law that they are going to give their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote?

Really? I didn't hear about that. Wow! And what if the state vote is opposite to the national vote? Maryland would disenfranchise its own citizens? That sounds kooky.

/but not out of the realm of possibility, mind you.
;)

790 jcw46  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:30pm

re: #766 Typicalwhitey

Dorien is still "talking gently" to eIDeOT on the previous thread.

I'm suspecting that Dorien and the outmoded interface are uckbuddies or sockpuppets.

791 Syrah  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:34pm

re: #776 Racer X

You are fast.

792 nigella  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:40pm

Shug, sorry to burst your bubble but I'm a 59 year old grandma, who doesn't remotely resemble Nigella Lawson. The dog you see in my avatar is my dog Nigel. That's where I got my name. If it makes you feel better I can cook......

793 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:47pm

re: #776 Racer X

This one?

Killgore usually throws it out there.

That's really synchronicitous. I just watched that a couple of hours ago. I love that video.

794 joecitizen  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:26:58pm

re: #767 Killian Bundy

The fix is in?

/why does that not surprise me?

I just had to go puke and smoke...

795 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:26pm

Was Russell Crowe's plan on the Tonight Show last night mentioned today in any threads? Just give $1 million to every American. That will save the economy and only costs $300 million. Then today Rush said $75,000 to every American. I like Crowe's plan better. Why give it to the robber barons? Give it to the people who stimulate the economy.

796 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:31pm

re: #732 realwest

My bad, yes it was Carter. So how be you these days?

797 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:36pm

re: #738 CommonCents

Raiders fire lifkin.. WHOOO-HOOOO!

Hopefully they will finish the season better than 4 and 12.

/man it's been tough watching them since Gannon left.

798 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:46pm

re: #739 MandyManners

You're a fucking troll.

Techncially speaking, the proper term would be a time-bomb moby.

Trolls wander the internet, looking for people to scare from under the bridge. They aren't advanced enough to have more than the most primitive constructs of decency, and simply survive upon the venom they ingest from those they agitate on the way.

In short, a troll would not have a coherent viewpoint about a political candidate, but would simply post things, over and over again, that shock people and make them upset and angry. Trolls post endlessly, mobys do not.

799 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:27:53pm

re: #746 realwest

I tell's ya, growing older ain't for wussies!


Yip - that's what my grandmother tells me all the time.
;-)

800 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:28:01pm

re: #780 Cartman

I agree, wholeheartedly. I don't at all understand why, with what is at stake here in this election, that true Repubs don't have the balls to unleash the big guns. Lord knows they have the ammo. It's just maddening, to me.

On the other hand, I've heard them interviewed on the radio, talking on what little time is now allotted to Republicans on Fox, and putting out press releases on page 1,502 of section A of the major newspapers. Maybe they're just being completely excluded, nobody notices, and that's where we're at.

801 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:28:26pm

re: #794 joecitizen

I just had to go puke and smoke...

In that order?

802 nigella  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:29:08pm

Before you go to bed Mandy, I have to tell you, your responses here always cheer me up! Keep up the good work!

803 right_on_target  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:29:17pm

re: #781 TheMatrix31

As far as the Probama Moderator.....screw it.

Sarah will still mop the floor with the old man and his hair plugs.

___________________________
As long as Ifill doesn't interrupt Sarah Palin or "correct" Biden.

But I think the moderator will be the one to screw up the debate. She'll screw it up so much that the Democrats will have an excuse for Biden's losing.

804 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:29:57pm

re: #776 Racer X

Yes, that one. It does brighten the spirit.

805 right_on_target  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:30:07pm

re: #785 merrytexas

It's a manufactured story. Obviously.

_______________________
That's my view too.

806 HoosierHoops  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:30:12pm

re: #783 realwest

Well Hoops, as long as it was in the background - waaay in the background - then I've got time to, ah, prepare my arguements with my consultants Mr. Mossberg and Messrs Smith &Wesson!

good night Real..
I'm having a strong roasted African blend in the morning..see ya then

807 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:30:34pm

Thats a good picture on DRUDGE of Gwen Ifel,she looks so O,O Omabafied

808 joecitizen  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:30:52pm

re: #801 Cartman

In that order?

isn't that the rational order?

809 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:31:59pm

re: #730 Cartman
Hey

re: #717 cliffster

Well, I haven't wrecked my car (yet) this year, but if I have insulted you in the past, I apologize. Let's cyber-shake, and get on with the business at hand, OK?


As I recall it's been well over a year, no?!

810 Killer Tomato  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:10pm

OK - running upstairs.
But just for 15 more minutes!

811 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:21pm

re: #634 banjo

Moby.

812 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:44pm

re: #795 merrytexas

Was Russell Crowe's plan on the Tonight Show last night mentioned today in any threads? Just give $1 million to every American. That will save the economy and only costs $300 million. Then today Rush said $75,000 to every American. I like Crowe's plan better. Why give it to the robber barons? Give it to the people who stimulate the economy.

A million to every American is 300 trillion dollars. Can't anybody do math any more?

75 thousand would only total 22.5 trillion dollars. Gee, what a bargain. Everything we buy would immediately jump in cost a hundred-fold.

813 Bubblehead II  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:52pm

re: #737 Bubblehead II


Showdown at LGF!

Weird. Meant to link to this.

814 Bobibutu  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:32:58pm

re: #538 NY Nana

Sadly, it is not recent. They have robbed our kids and grandkids of something that is a part of their childhood...something called innocence.

And parents let kids sit in front of a TV, and far too many do not even bother see monitor what a young kid is watching.

To mock Elmo, and get 5 stars? Pathetic.

I am so old that I remember the world before TV, and it was good. ;)

Yeah Baby! We would die for the radio and Punch the Comic Weekly, The lone Ranger, Tarzan, The Shadow - et al!

815 ggt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:00pm

New thread? My signal to go to bed.

weet dreams all!

816 Elcid  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:01pm

Katie no eye contract. Seems like Sarah CAN walk and look someone in the eye (you know walk and chew gum, same time). Katie also has that sicking shit eating grin, which typically says...'I don't believe a damn word you are saying'.

Bias, to a person like Couric IS: A line going diagonally across the grain of fabric: Cut the cloth on the bias.

Unfortunately, there are plenty of Couric types.

817 Intrepid  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:31pm

re: #795 merrytexas

Was Russell Crowe's plan on the Tonight Show last night mentioned today in any threads? Just give $1 million to every American. That will save the economy and only costs $300 million. Then today Rush said $75,000 to every American. I like Crowe's plan better. Why give it to the robber barons? Give it to the people who stimulate the economy.

Well, that would mean that there are only 300 Americans.

1 million x 300 million = NOT $300,000,000

818 Racer X  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:33:57pm

re: #791 Syrah

You are fast.

Not always.

819 x-wing  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:34:05pm

re: #789 Irene NYC

Really? I didn't hear about that. Wow! And what if the state vote is opposite to the national vote? Maryland would disenfranchise its own citizens? That sounds kooky.

/but not out of the realm of possibility, mind you.
;)


I know they were discussing it, not sure if it passed. Also heard other state(not sure which ones) are doing the same thing.

I don't know what the constitution says about it. But if this is allowed, it's gonna make our job harder.

820 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:37pm

re: #800 cliffster

Yes, as you and others have pointed out, they just don't have the stage to perform on. The only ones who really have the platform for exposure are McCain and Palin, and they (especially McCain) seem to be walking on eggshells. They're way too afraid to "offend", IMO. Sarah got off to a great start with her selection speech, but seems to have been reined in, as of late.

821 Oldasdirt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:35:52pm

re: #814 Bobibutu

Yeah Baby! We would die for the radio and Punch the Comic Weekly, The lone Ranger, Tarzan, The Shadow - et al!


Me to,,and life was good.

822 Racer X  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:36:31pm

re: #795 merrytexas

Was Russell Crowe's plan on the Tonight Show last night mentioned today in any threads? Just give $1 million to every American. That will save the economy and only costs $300 million.

I don't have time to crunch the numbers, but I think his math is just a wee bit off.

823 Cartman  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:37:27pm

re: #809 realwest

Hey


As I recall it's been well over a year, no?!

I'm not sure, R-Dubs. I sometimes lose track of time. ;)

824 Sylvester_T_Cat  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:37:40pm

re: #712 Killian Bundy

Should Congress Be 'Perp-Walked'?

/that'd get rid of a lot of corruption

From the editorial:

As such, any investigation into Fannie and Freddie must include Congress, both current and past

That covers it quite nicely: It's Special Prosecutor time. Now while there is for sure a Republican president to kick things off. Might not get results this half of the century, but it'll sure keep the MSM distracted while we get some serious integrity elected into the White House. McCain/Palin!

/"A Congressman in Every Cell" has such a nice campaign-slogan ring to it, don't ya think? ;-)

825 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:38:01pm

re: #735 Typicalwhitey
Ah, don't know why you were down in the dumps Typicalwhitey - you actually took a stand - a semi-dangerous stand given where you live - to blow the whistle on the Obama Truth Goon Squads of DA's and Sheriff's down you way. That you got an acknowledgement from one paper is GREAT and I suspect your numerous letters will wind up provoking a much bigger response in the days ahead!
You actually did that which many say they'd "like to do" or "someone" should do, as long as that someone isn't them.
NEVER feel down because you stood up for what's right. NEVER. Other folks will just have to pick up the damn learning curve.
As I've told you in an e-mail, I'm damn proud of you, for what little that may be worth.

826 Thom  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:38:11pm

#736 Irene NYC

No vote is irrelevant. Especially for the presidency. Do you really want to hear another four years of something akin to "selected not elected" - which is a real possibility if McCain, say, loses the popular vote but wins the EC and some democratic lawyers take the results of a Florida or Ohio through the court system?

Maryland is a winner-take-all state, and is solidly, safely democratic. Really, my vote does not matter. If MD would split up its electoral votes according to the popular votes in the various districts, then of course I'd have a different view.

Vote.

I will vote, for Joad Cressbeckler!

-----

In any case, LFG is crawling, and I have no patience! Good night all.

827 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:39:29pm

re: #820 Cartman

Yes, as you and others have pointed out, they just don't have the stage to perform on. The only ones who really have the platform for exposure are McCain and Palin, and they (especially McCain) seem to be walking on eggshells. They're way too afraid to "offend", IMO. Sarah got off to a great start with her selection speech, but seems to have been reined in, as of late.

I hope Palin can shake the stupid-ray Thursday.

828 realwest  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:40:24pm

re: #826 Thom
Hi Thom! Bye Thom. Damnit.
OK, moving upthread.

829 cliffster  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:41:08pm

Hey Real, I'm supposed to ask you how it is that Carter pardoned John Kerry and allowed his political career to continue. I want to hear this!

830 Catttt  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:43:31pm

re: #789 Irene NYC

Really? I didn't hear about that. Wow! And what if the state vote is opposite to the national vote? Maryland would disenfranchise its own citizens? That sounds kooky.

/but not out of the realm of possibility, mind you.
;)

According to what I read and didn't really understand, the law will go into effect only if enough other states change their laws in the same way to have a majority in the electoral college. I don't, however, understand how this is different from the current "winner take all" system. Yellow-dog state.

Still, I will vote. My parents instilled it in me that it's my civic duty. I'd feel guilty forever if I didn't vote.

831 Suzette  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:47:50pm

re: #747 Cartman

I'd like to reach through my flatpanel and choke anyone who says on here that they are thinking about sitting this election out, and not voting. Grrrr!

Indeed it is one of the most important election in my lifetime.
VOTE!

832 Moe Katz  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:52:22pm

re: #831 Suzette

Indeed it is one of the most important election in my lifetime.
VOTE!

Indeed. An Obama presidency would be a calamity. Notice how many Lizards have been saying they could have lived with a Hillary victory? It's not a matter of defeating any Democrat. It's about this particular candidate and what he stands for and what he could do to the US and its allies.

833 Pasketti  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 9:58:46pm

re: #138 rawmuse

Here is the latest email spam McCain hit piece, probably sent to me by mistake.

MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN

by Mary-Kay Gamel


Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his rude behavior
towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some
redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from
Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was
shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea - I didn't have anything to do
with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me.
You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing
around in a shopping cart in Arizona . No, it wasn't my idea at all.

Hello, I am stepping out of lurker mode to share a personal story, because I am so infuriated after reading this paragraph I could spit nails. Please bear with me, this is my first post and I am nervous. I usually just keep my mouth shut and try to learn from y'all.

My husband was in Las Vegas about 15 years ago (or so.) He was at a craps table, and John McCain was at the same table. He didn't know who John McCain was. It was at Caesar's Palace in the wee hours, and everyone was winning at the table and in a great mood. Sen. McCain and my husband were laughing, chatting, buying rounds of drinks/coffee for each other and for the entire table, that kind of thing. My husband simply thought he was a really cool, nice guy with a gorgeous Rolex Presidential and a gorgeous wife.

OK, I'll get to the point: My husband is adopted, but he knows his birth family. My husband's birth brother was there in Vegas and joined them at the craps table during the time Sen McCain was there. When Sen. McCain met my husband's brother and learned the adoption story Sen. McCain proceeded to ask a million very sincere questions of my husband about how he felt about meeting his birth family, HOW to tell a child they are adopted, how my husband felt about being adopted, all out of concern for McCain's own adopted child/children. My husband was struck at the time by how nice a guy he was, and by how proud of the adoption and concerned for his child Sen McCain was.

A couple hours into it a lady walked up and recognized Sen. McCain. It didn't matter, my husband still didn't know who he was, outside of being a nice guy who really wanted info so he could be the best dad to his adopted kiddos, who also happened to be a Senator.

So for this horrid, HORRID woman in that quote to come out and say he said such vile things about his adopted child is just beyond the pale to me. There is absolutely no way. He was not only unashamed, he was proud and concerned. But I have to say after what I've seen this election year, and what depths I've learned the "other side" will sink to, I'm not as surprised as I wish I was to hear such a sick and twisted lie.

/back to lurking after taking a deep breath and hitting "post"

834 Bobibutu  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:01:43pm

re: #821 Oldasdirt

Me to,,and life was good.

God those were good days ...

835 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:01:50pm

re: #812 really grumpy big dog Johnson

My bad. Thanks for a reality check. I'll take $75K.

836 merrytexas  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:02:43pm

re: #822 Racer X

Yeah. Beat me with a wet noodle.

837 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:17:42pm

re: #832 Moe Katz

Thank you for your post.

838 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:18:44pm

re: #833 Pasketti

Great first post. I hope it makes the rounds.

839 Claire  Tue, Sep 30, 2008 10:53:50pm

Haven't read the whole thread, but am feeling alot better about Sarah right now-

How on earth could Ms. Couric be so nice and then turn on her at the end? I'm sure Sarah was trying to figure out where she was coming from as she morphed into a monster as the interview went on.

Oh, and Katie- You're not at a cocktail party, what's with the cleavage?

840 landline  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:21:47am

Katie has awesome legs.

I'm slightly concerned that Governor Palin couldn't name any publications she reads regularly. However, it is simply another example of a "Gotcha" question of the type that they never ask of B. Hussein Obama.

841 bosforus  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 7:21:53am

re: #833 Pasketti

Great post, pasketti. Please, don't be a stranger. We need you out here!

842 jiminycricket  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 8:44:17am

re: #792 nigella

Shug, sorry to burst your bubble but I'm a 59 year old grandma, who doesn't remotely resemble Nigella Lawson. The dog you see in my avatar is my dog Nigel. That's where I got my name. If it makes you feel better I can cook......

A dog called Nigel. That's cool.

843 kansas  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 8:47:04am

Headline for this: Debate offers Palin, Biden high risk, great rewards.
Should read, Debate offers Palin high risk, Biden Great Rewards

But a series of shaky Palin television interviews have left even some conservatives questioning whether she is ready to be vice president. She couldn't describe the Bush doctrine in foreign affairs, seemed to have little grasp of the proposed financial industry bailout and even appeared to endorse Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's position on chasing al-Qaida terrorists in Pakistan.

Problems just in this paragraph: there is no Bush Doctrine that anyone can agree on, and if agreeing with Barack Obama is a gaffe, then WTF?

844 MJBrutus  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 9:02:03am

I was talking to my Mom about the election recently. She's probably going to do the unthinkable and vote for the One. She's been a Dem since I was a kid and continues to support them out of habit more than anything else. She was a teacher, who was in the NEA and can't break the operant conditioning. It's just no use to explain to her that the Donkeys are no longer like Ed Koch, that they have mutated in to creatures that no longer value freedom and the ideals of this country. The old libs were well-intentioned, even if off base. Today's libs are nothing short of malevolent towards everything that this country was founded on.

She hates Palin. I asked why and she tells me that it's because Palin wants to end abortion and teach creation in schools. It was no use telling her where Palin actually stands and that this was a smear. She wanted to believe the lie.

845 Media_man  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 9:07:03am

#844 MJBrutus:

My sympathies - my Mom was a teacher as well, but she didn't turn her stripes until she retired. Now she's a moonbat liberal & would vote for Hitler if he guaranteed he wouldn't touch Medicare & Social Security.

Our country is screwed.

846 eaglewingz08  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 9:49:44am

Gee a libelous email from a Mary Gamel, nice sounding arab/muslim name, couldn't possibly have any ulterior motives to pushing a hit piece against Sen. McCain (supporter of Israel, strong WoT proponent) in order to assure the weak Obamanation to win the election?

847 DonS  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 1:43:10pm
The old libs were well-intentioned, even if off base.

I guess it depends on how you mean "well-intentioned", but the old left of the 30s was far left, with quite a few closet communits, and various supporters of Stalin (including those willing to lie to cover up Stalin's mass murders).

And consider the Chicago machine of 1960, likely costing Nixon the election that year . . .

848 AuntAcid  Wed, Oct 1, 2008 5:30:08pm