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Biden's Lebanon Nonsense

Politics | Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:45:41 pm PDT

From The Corner, a letter from a reader points out another series of ludicrous statements from Joe Biden, just making up a bunch of total nonsense about Lebanon and the Hezbollah terror group.

Joe Biden threw out a lot of bunk on foreign policy tonight, too bad Gov Palin didn’t have the foreign policy wonkishness to call him on it.  Most ridiculous and downright strange was his contention that the Bush administration let Hezbollah into Lebanon, and then when “we threw them out” – whatever that means, he and Obama said NATO should go in but nobody took them up on it and now Hezbollah was all over Lebanon and that’s a problem.  What?

Well, Hezbollah’s been there since the early 1980’s of course, blossoming throughout the 1990’s to become now over a third of the population of Lebanon with 2 cabinet members, a host of parliamentarians, and schools, clinics, and basically an entirely separate governance infrastructure in all of southern Lebanon and elsewhere.  I suppose the throwing out of Hezbollah was the dismal and failed Israeli campaign of 2006 which dislodged nothing?  Or was it Israeli’s occupation of Southern Lebanon from 1982 – 1999?  Don’t remember an Obama position on NATO replacing Israeli occupation then.  As for NATO going in after the 2006 debacle, well, I’m the one who rounded up 8,000 French and Italians and a few thousand other Euros to go into Southern Lebanon along with an assortment of others in August 2006 and while working that issue for about 40 straight days I don’t remember a peep from Biden or Obama about NATO – which wouldn’t be budged despite our intense pressure in Mons.  So, we went straight to Rome and Paris.  Que sera, sera.

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1 Wishing  10/02/08 9:46:33 pm reply quote

He made NO sense re Lebanon

2 Fenway_Nation  10/02/08 9:47:09 pm reply quote

Jeez....our eeeeeeevil liazardoid overlord is cranking out these threads so fast and furious, I wonder if he's even gonna bother with an overnight open thread.

3 Catttt  10/02/08 9:48:52 pm reply quote

That was the part that totally rang my "LIAR JOE" bells. Babbling idiocy with made-up nonsense. To think he could be President is - bad.

4 zombie  10/02/08 9:49:08 pm reply quote

Someone needs to re-brand this debate as Joe's Festival of Mendacity.

5 rightwinger3  10/02/08 9:49:29 pm reply quote

The MSM will absolutely not call him on this either. Foreign policy guru, my ass. Biden and Obama are just foreign.

6 Wishing  10/02/08 9:50:17 pm reply quote

Interview with Obama:
The U.S. needs a foreign policy that “looks at the root causes of problems and dangers.” Obama compared Hezbollah to Hamas. Both need to be compelled to understand that “they’re going down a blind alley with violence that weakens their legitimate claims.” He knows these movements aren’t going away anytime soon (“Those missiles aren’t going to dissolve”), but “if they decide to shift, we’re going to recognize that. That’s an evolution that should be recognized.”
Link here

7 Fenway_Nation  10/02/08 9:50:21 pm reply quote

Where do you think Hillary is in all this? I haven't seen her doing a whole lot of fundraising on 0bama's behalf lately, but then again, I haven't really been looking, either.

8 Catttt  10/02/08 9:50:46 pm reply quote

Joe totally reminds me of one of my Irish uncles when he's been drinking. The only thing is Joe appears to be that way sober.

9 rightwinger3  10/02/08 9:51:02 pm reply quote

re: #3 Catttt

That was the part that totally rang my "LIAR JOE" bells. Babbling idiocy with made-up nonsense. To think he could be President is - bad.

Cattt, yes but to think his running mate could be the president is even worse.

10 Sharmuta  10/02/08 9:51:09 pm reply quote

I thought the real slap in the face moment was when Biden said Israel had no better friend in the Senate than him. Really? Even more so than Senator Lieberman?

11 karmic_inquisitor  10/02/08 9:51:10 pm reply quote

But will the MSM report any of it?

If they don't more ammo for the October ads against O n' Joe.

12 zombie  10/02/08 9:52:02 pm reply quote

The GaffeMaster2000 just transmogrified into the LieMaster3000.

13 Fenway_Nation  10/02/08 9:52:59 pm reply quote

re: #12 zombie

The GaffeMaster2000 just transmogrified into the LieMaster3000.

That's not anything like Mystery Science Theater 3000, is it?

14 Sharmuta  10/02/08 9:53:22 pm reply quote

re: #11 karmic_inquisitor

But will the MSM report any of it?

If they don't more ammo for the October ads against O n' Joe.

Like the msm has any idea of what's going on in Lebanon.

15 lifeofthemind  10/02/08 9:54:21 pm reply quote

I thought he meant "we" chased Syria out and then stood bye while their proxies in Hizbollah took over. It gets hard when you have to do the thinking for both sides of an argument.

16 jaunte  10/02/08 9:54:27 pm reply quote

re: #6 Wishing

I'm just trying to imagine someone in an Obama administration telling Hamas or Hezbollah that they're 'weakening their legitimate claims' with violence. "Oh, that's not us, that's the violent wing. We never know what they're going to do."

17 Pawn of the Oppressor  10/02/08 9:54:31 pm reply quote

I'm going to have to see a transcript to make sense of all the bullshit.

Lebanon - made no sense at all. Huh?

Iraq - utterly, totally ignorant of why a timetable would be a bad idea, I mean real basic, totally-out-of-touch LBJ kind of thinking here, classic war-hating liberal nonsense. Doesn't seem to understand why anybody would be opposed to advertising when you're leaving.

- Afghanistan - those budget numbers were horseshit

- "Palestine" - Bush failed, but Condi's doing great? What? Apparently is unaware of how State Department marches to its own tune, yet didn't even pay lip service to a "roadmap", never mind the fact that Bush was the first guy in years to seriously recognize "Palestinians" with any sort of implied legitimacy... Totally bass-ackwards, no reality here at all...

There is more... Dude does not live on this planet, he lives in Democrat Free-Floating Factville, where you can just make shit up on the fly.

18 JulianWinter  10/02/08 9:55:19 pm reply quote

I wrote this in the Biden's Lie-post, but it seems far more relevant here:

As an Israeli citizen (watching the debate live from Tel Aviv, I might add) I was shocked to hear from the Chairman of the Foreign Relations committee that Hamas is in control of the West Bank after the US had allowed an election to take place.

I mean, I knew they controlled Gaza, but the West Bank too? Bizarre that I didn't notice. Oh well, Joe Biden is "Mr. Foreign Relations" so I guess he knows!

19 Fenway_Nation  10/02/08 9:55:20 pm reply quote

re: #14 Sharmuta

Like the msm has any idea of what's going on in Lebanon.


Maybe if Mr. Hajj didn't photoshop so much smoke they might have a better idea.

20 Pawn of the Oppressor  10/02/08 9:56:40 pm reply quote

"Was it over when Bush bombed Pearl Harbor?"

21 Wishing  10/02/08 9:58:40 pm reply quote

Gniite, lizards. I feel so much better about McCain, that he had the good sense to pick Sarah. She deserves the big chair.
Palin in 2012!

22 rightwinger3  10/02/08 9:58:43 pm reply quote

re: #17 Pawn of the Oppressor

There is more... Dude does not live on this planet, he lives in Democrat Free-Floating Factville, where you can just make shit up on the fly.

This will only get worse as October rolls on. The MSM will not only not call them on it but print stories supporting the lies. Guaranteed. The only recourse we have is Charles, Rush etc.

23 HelloDare  10/02/08 10:00:38 pm reply quote

Every time you tell a lie, and angel plucks a hair from your head.

24 Fenway_Nation  10/02/08 10:01:16 pm reply quote

re: #23 HelloDare

That might explain the plugs-

does the angel go after the plus, too?

25 zombie  10/02/08 10:01:19 pm reply quote

re: #18 JulianWinter

I wrote this in the Biden's Lie-post, but it seems far more relevant here:

As an Israeli citizen (watching the debate live from Tel Aviv, I might add) I was shocked to hear from the Chairman of the Foreign Relations committee that Hamas is in control of the West Bank after the US had allowed an election to take place.

I mean, I knew they controlled Gaza, but the West Bank too? Bizarre that I didn't notice. Oh well, Joe Biden is "Mr. Foreign Relations" so I guess he knows!

I suspect there is not enough space on the Internet to contain a full inventory of all of Joe's lies just from this one debate.

26 Intrepid  10/02/08 10:01:57 pm reply quote

Honestly, I couldn't stand to listen to him at times because most of his foreign policy stuff made little sense!

27 HelloDare  10/02/08 10:02:05 pm reply quote

re: #23 HelloDare

Every time you tell a lie, and angel plucks a hair from your head.

28 sngnsgt  10/02/08 10:02:39 pm reply quote

re: #22 rightwinger3

Rush is going to be on fire tomorrow!

(This afternoon.)

;-)

29 rightwinger3  10/02/08 10:03:11 pm reply quote

re: #23 HelloDare

Every time you tell a lie, and angel plucks a hair from your head.

It's happening to me as well, but I don't claim to be a foreign policy genius and spout lies the msm will not call me on.

30 arethusa  10/02/08 10:03:16 pm reply quote

/It occurs to me...maybe we should all pitch in for a thank-you bouquet for Katie Couric for lowering expectations for Palin so much?

Bet she's annoyed right now.

32 Psaturn  10/02/08 10:03:27 pm reply quote

Hello guys! I had a group of folks praying for Sarah...
I like her cheerfulness and her appearance of innocence...she is an example of the heartland of America.
There were points in the beginning that I thought Sarah should have answered back but apparently Ifill did not give her a chance.

Many have commented that Ifill was fair.

Actually my opinion was that she was not fair...she asked questions that were Democrats' talking points...

Like gay marriage, global warming, War in Iraq...they were points that Democrats would shine...

I appreciated Sarah saying that she respects people no matter what and that she is tolerant of diversity but she will stand by the fact that marriage should be between one man and one woman. Biden's claim that gays are denied visitation rights, housing rights and other civil rights are really lies...I am still not sure what Biden said about if he agreed with gay marriage or not...

33 HelloDare  10/02/08 10:03:51 pm reply quote

re: #24 Fenway_Nation

That might explain the plugs-

does the angel go after the plus, too?

Plug Fairy.

34 rightwinger3  10/02/08 10:03:56 pm reply quote

re: #28 sngnsgt

Rush is going to be on fire tomorrow!

;-)

As well he should!

35 CheDub  10/02/08 10:04:33 pm reply quote

Damn, I missed the debate and just got home for the evening. Too tired to read all the threads and the 2000+ comments attached to them. Can anyone give a (very) short recap? Apparently Biden made a number of false statements, I got that much from the headlines and am not really surprised by it.

36 Opilio  10/02/08 10:05:30 pm reply quote

re: #5 rightwinger3

The MSM will absolutely not call him on this either. Foreign policy guru, my ass. Biden and Obama are just foreign.

That's the appalling shame of it all. None of Biden's idiocy or Obama's prevarications will matter if the McCain campaign doesn't start saturation bombing the airwaves in the swing states with easy to digest ads exposing their lies. I don't know what they're waiting for.

37 rightwinger3  10/02/08 10:06:37 pm reply quote

re: #18 JulianWinter

I wrote this in the Biden's Lie-post, but it seems far more relevant here:

As an Israeli citizen (watching the debate live from Tel Aviv, I might add) I was shocked to hear from the Chairman of the Foreign Relations committee that Hamas is in control of the West Bank after the US had allowed an election to take place.

I mean, I knew they controlled Gaza, but the West Bank too? Bizarre that I didn't notice. Oh well, Joe Biden is "Mr. Foreign Relations" so I guess he knows!

Julian, go over there and take a look for us would you?

38 Noam Sayin'  10/02/08 10:10:53 pm reply quote

Heh™

Bosniacs...

I'm still chucking over that one.

39 julianwinter  10/02/08 10:12:04 pm reply quote

re: #37 rightwinger3

Julian, go over there and take a look for us would you?

Sure thing, buddy. Qalqilya (in the West Bank) is only 7 miles away from here, being the coast of Israel.

Slacking, naive foreign policy is going to get Hamas terrorists sitting pretty 7 miles from the largest population center of Israel. But it's all good, because we have no greater friend in the Senate than Joe Biden.

40 Pawn of the Oppressor  10/02/08 10:12:32 pm reply quote

re: #36 Opilio

That's the appalling shame of it all. None of Biden's idiocy or Obama's prevarications will matter if the McCain campaign doesn't start saturation bombing the airwaves in the swing states with easy to digest ads exposing their lies. I don't know what they're waiting for.

Biden had one very effective routine where he would talk to the camera and cite McCain's voting record (without context), basically calling Palin a liar. That was his one good tactic. Other than that, he hardly made any sense and kept going back to the McBush thing.

Palin spoke clear, stood up to him just fine, got a few good licks in, was charming, sharp, confident, no overt screw-ups, fell back on boilerplate in a couple of places but otherwise kicked butt.

Palin A-
Biden C+

She gets extra credit for giving a shout-out to a class of third-graders. :)

41 esch  10/02/08 10:13:06 pm reply quote

re: #36 Opilio

She started out a little nervous. But in the end she PWNED him.

42 esch  10/02/08 10:13:55 pm reply quote

re: #38 Noam Sayin'

Heh™

Bosniacs...

I'm still chucking over that one.

Maybe we should start calling them Obomsniacs.

43 sngnsgt  10/02/08 10:15:30 pm reply quote

Lefties are scared because Sarah put Joe in his place and her performance may have turned some undecided's away from 'The One'. Sarah's grasp of the issues made Joe look unprepared as if he was under- estimating her knowledge of the facts. Joe tried to lie his way out of that fact. (See Joe gaffes)

44 ploome hineni  10/02/08 10:16:59 pm reply quote

no wonder we have such a foreign policy problem, if this is the level of expertise our lawmakers have, after 30 years on the job

it is humiliating for America, that this comes from Biden a VIce President nominee and Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee

Biden was chosen for his foreign policy expertise

/ OH MY

45 rightwinger3  10/02/08 10:17:38 pm reply quote

re: #39 julianwinter

Sure thing, buddy. Qalqilya (in the West Bank) is only 7 miles away from here, being the coast of Israel.

Slacking, naive foreign policy is going to get Hamas terrorists sitting pretty 7 miles from the largest population center of Israel. But it's all good, because we have no greater friend in the Senate than Joe Biden.

Roger that, be careful out there.

Again though even if you're not Biden will have the whole of the US Armed Forces there to help you if you need it. Because he's your best friend./

46 jcw46  10/02/08 10:18:05 pm reply quote

re: #20 Pawn of the Oppressor

"Was it over when Bush bombed Pearl Harbor?"

"Don't stop him, he's on a roll."

and didn't blutarsky become a u.s. senator?

47 ploome hineni  10/02/08 10:18:07 pm reply quote

re: #39 julianwinter

Sure thing, buddy. Qalqilya (in the West Bank) is only 7 miles away from here, being the coast of Israel.

Slacking, naive foreign policy is going to get Hamas terrorists sitting pretty 7 miles from the largest population center of Israel. But it's all good, because we have no greater friend in the Senate than Joe Biden.

and then Palin said she will move the American Embassy to Jerusalem

its like Lucy and the football

/say it again John

48 Bobibutu  10/02/08 10:19:25 pm reply quote

re: #18 JulianWinter

I wrote this in the Biden's Lie-post, but it seems far more relevant here:

As an Israeli citizen (watching the debate live from Tel Aviv, I might add) I was shocked to hear from the Chairman of the Foreign Relations committee that Hamas is in control of the West Bank after the US had allowed an election to take place.

I mean, I knew they controlled Gaza, but the West Bank too? Bizarre that I didn't notice. Oh well, Joe Biden is "Mr. Foreign Relations" so I guess he knows!

Ah - the piece for me was when Sarah said the US embassy would be in Jerusalem.

49 Catttt  10/02/08 10:22:54 pm reply quote

re: #35 CheDub

Damn, I missed the debate and just got home for the evening. Too tired to read all the threads and the 2000+ comments attached to them. Can anyone give a (very) short recap? Apparently Biden made a number of false statements, I got that much from the headlines and am not really surprised by it.

Joe started out smiling and looking dapper, but eventually Gov. Palin wore him down. He fell into his typical lying gabblefest, repeating himself, glowering sulkily, and telling tearjerker stories that went out of style at the turn of the last century.

Sarah Palin was terrific. She did very well technically on her strong issues and ok on her weak spots, but she didn't always have the knowledge to catch Joe in his lies. She did, however, get two or three hits, which took the wind out of Joe's sails.

Sarah Palin, bless her, came across beautifully, as real, down-to-earth, sharp, and one of us - as opposed to all those DC technowonks who went to fricking Haavad.

Joe lost his damn toothy smile about a half hour in, and he looked tired. He made stuff up and bloviated more and more. A couple of times he broke in and made extra stupid gabby come-back remarks when the moderator was trying to ask a new question. He came across exactly like a nice enough, but drunk fellow, using all his bag of tricks to win a pissing contest, which is what he always ends up doing, imho. Not that he was drunk - he just seems to think that way.

50 realwest  10/02/08 10:23:06 pm reply quote

And uh, what was that stuff Biden said that McCain told Spain to stuff it all about anyway?

51 Rakkasah  10/02/08 10:27:04 pm reply quote

re: #36 Opilio


Yes. I need to hear a good rebuttal of his lies and half-truths. He appeared earnest to me, and he did a great job at making himself appear an authority on every topic. Yet I've been in political discussions with libs, and I know they tend to pull convenient 'facts' out of their butts whenever it's convenient, even if they're full of crap they'll appear to have won the argument. Then I go back and check what they're saying, and I find out they were just making it all up.

I hate discussing Israel with most people. I happen to find all the lunatics. I knew about the un-provoked Katyusha attacks and the damage it caused. Yet the guy managed to throw me off a little bit when he claimed the Israelis had gone in and shot up the homes of a bunch of innocent, unsuspecting Palis just days before. I hadn't heard of any such incident, but it didn't matter. He succeeded in his efforts to twist my perception of what was really going on.
Which is why, I'm terrible--terrible--at debating.

52 CheDub  10/02/08 10:27:35 pm reply quote

re: #49 Catttt

Thank you, much appreciated. The check's in the mail, although it may take a(n infinitely long) while to get there. :)

53 snuffyword  10/02/08 10:27:36 pm reply quote

re: #46 jcw46

"Don't stop him, he's on a roll."

and didn't blutarsky become a u.s. senator?

And married Mandy.

54 snuffyword  10/02/08 10:30:09 pm reply quote

re: #50 realwest

And uh, what was that stuff Biden said that McCain told Spain to stuff it all about anyway?

I don't know if that is true but when Spain experienced the train bombing, the incumbent president lost the election to some peace party. Within 6 months, Spain pulled their forces out of Iraq.

55 freedombilly  10/02/08 10:32:41 pm reply quote

Why bring facts into this? He won fair and square. I heard it on CNN. It must be true.

56 Oldasdirt  10/02/08 10:33:17 pm reply quote

re: #50 realwest

Not only pull out of Iroc,but seems they have not been with us on several sanction votes at UN.(not sure)

57 Catttt  10/02/08 10:36:53 pm reply quote

re: #50 realwest

And uh, what was that stuff Biden said that McCain told Spain to stuff it all about anyway?

In a radio interview, Senator McCain appeared not to realize that Zapatero is the president of Spain. I personally think he misunderstood the questioner, who had a pretty thick accent, and thought she was asking about some guy in South America.

It was no big deal, but both Barry and Joe have played it for all it is worth. When Joe started his copyrighted stuttery yelling with "Spain! Spain! Spain!"he just looked like he was over reacting to something - he looked stupid. Most people will have no clue why the dufus is yelling Spain over and over, imho. Typical senatorial posturing bullshit. IMHO.

58 useless  10/02/08 10:39:27 pm reply quote

I'm waiting for the MSM to pull a reverse Stalin and start putting cut out's of Obama in photos with senators and world leaders to help build up his legend. Libs don't give a whit of the truth, we keep seeing it and if we point out what is real, we look petty and banal. I hate this stupid debate thing, because it is more like a Ms. America pageant where they put Vaseline on their teeth and walk out in one piece with heels. Really. Who wears heels with a one piece anyway?

59 abolitionist  10/02/08 11:10:24 pm reply quote

re: #17 Pawn of the Oppressor

I'm going to have to see a transcript to make sense of all the bullshit.
[snip]

From next thread up,

The full debate transcript is here: Vice-Presidential Debate - Biden and Palin - Transcript.
60 Achtung  10/02/08 11:38:14 pm reply quote

Biden is right here and Charles wrong.

The parliament elections were held at West Bank and Gaza, and Hamas won. Hamas controlled the parliament and the goverment in West Bank until they took over Gaza's presidential compound and then Abbas dismantled the goverment.

61 Achtung  10/02/08 11:41:36 pm reply quote

re: #60 Achtung

Biden is right here and Charles wrong.

The parliament elections were held at West Bank and Gaza, and Hamas won. Hamas controlled the parliament and the goverment in West Bank until they took over Gaza's presidential compound and then Abbas dismantled the goverment.

Oops, sorry - wrong thread. Delete pls.

62 Adrenalyn  10/02/08 11:58:58 pm reply quote

anyone remember Hanoi John Kerry saying he would conduct a more sensitve war on terror in debates with Bush in 2004 ?
that was a giant "what the fuck" moment too

about as bad as Biden's gaffe's

63 Adrenalyn  10/03/08 12:01:08 am reply quote

re: #54 snuffyword

I don't know if that is true but when Spain experienced the train bombing, the incumbent president lost the election to some peace party. Within 6 months, Spain pulled their forces out of Iraq.

true !

64 Aussie Infidel  10/03/08 3:29:44 am reply quote

Biden blew it completely with is wild arsed 'make it up as he goes along' nonsense. Unfortunately Palin was not savvy or experienced enough to pick him up immediately in his lies and she effectively gave him a free pass about a dozen times. Palin won the debating contest hands down. She didn't have the depth however to pick up on Biden's BS. If she had this would have been a slam dunk and the Dems would have lost the election based on what went down this evening.

Unless McCain can pull it out next week and in the final month I'm afraid that Obama will be the next POTUS and that will tear the country apart. Forget about lining up behind the new president after the smoke of the election battles has cleared. Obama represents such a clear danger to the democracy of the US that a full on cultural civil war will develop. I know serving US forces personnel who will reject Obama as C in C. Many will resign rather than serve under him. That is so serious a problem that it has the potential to rip the US apart at a time when the enemies of the west are just waiting their chance to strike.


I believe there are dark times are coming for the US an us all. This will be way past politics. We will be in a cultural battle for our basic freedoms and our physical safety from our enemies. Personally i believe that there are now not enough Americans with the culture to stand up against the tide of hedonistic MTV drones, Joe Sixpack idiots and cunning organized leftists with a solid agenda for cultural change. God help us all.

65 Ziggy  10/03/08 3:55:37 am reply quote

I had to rewind that clip a couple of times. What did he justsay? Gwenn Ifil probably congratulated him afterwards for being so spot on.

66 Marvo76  10/03/08 4:09:07 am reply quote

re: #46 jcw46

"Don't stop him, he's on a roll."

and didn't blutarsky become a u.s. senator?

and changed his name to Biden LOL

67 Marvo76  10/03/08 4:13:50 am reply quote

re: #55 freedombilly

Why bring facts into this? He won fair and square. I heard it on CNN. It must be true.

I just got another poll from Earthchanges.org, and they have Biden as the clear winner. I had to ask myself which debate were they watching? or were ther judgeing it on Dkos talking points? I think they both held their own on "presence" as neither seemed rattled by the other's questions/comments,, but I do believe Palin came out on top...(my kinda woman LOL)

68 ploome hineni  10/03/08 4:53:01 am reply quote

re: #64 Aussie Infidel

Biden blew it completely with is wild arsed 'make it up as he goes along' nonsense. Unfortunately Palin was not savvy or experienced enough to pick him up immediately in his lies and she effectively gave him a free pass about a dozen times. Palin won the debating contest hands down. She didn't have the depth however to pick up on Biden's BS. If she had this would have been a slam dunk and the Dems would have lost the election based on what went down this evening.

what scared 'them' about Palin, is that she will do just that

just wait..like John Boulton but with a smile and some down home breezy style

69 Thanos  10/03/08 5:19:44 am reply quote

Didn't he also say that the UN should have been sent in, and wasn't Hezbollah hiding behind their outpost in S. Lebananon at the start of the 2006 war? I seem to remember something like that. Have to read the transcript.

70 littleO  10/03/08 5:20:39 am reply quote

I'm feeling particularly wonkish this morning. I caught that point about hezbollah. I'd go on to say, The terrorist are be supported, and financed, by Iranian oil wealth created by the US increasing our oil imports from our enemies by 50% in the last 35 years.

71 harrylook  10/03/08 5:25:32 am reply quote

Lizards correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't NATO's charter prevent it from acting in Lebanon?

[Link: www.nato.int...]

72 Thanos  10/03/08 5:44:47 am reply quote

re: #69 Thanos

Didn't he also say that the UN should have been sent in, and wasn't Hezbollah hiding behind their outpost in S. Lebananon at the start of the 2006 war? I seem to remember something like that. Have to read the transcript.

Hrmm in the transcript it says Nato, but then Nato was in charge in Afghanistan during the increase of the Taliban there 2006 -- 2008, now we are back in charge and my money says it turns around.

73 jimzinsocal  10/03/08 12:59:15 pm reply quote

I think Michael Totten says it best

Biden's Alternate Universe

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]


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