He'll let Palin have it.

You know, I thought McCain was a fighter but he is showing me everyday his nack for capitulation.

We shouldn't assume anything right now. Give it a few days.

If it's "off the table" it's only because I think its significant impact has been realized. McCain better get on the Ayers/Obama bandwagon and give it all he's got or he's done.

re: #1 bellamags

He'll let Palin have it.

No, he'll let the 527's do it for him. I hope.

JSM is being a gentleman.

Unfortunately we are up against barbarians.

McCain may believe he'll be labeled a racists should he raise this.
Once the 527's start on it he'll be painted with that brush anyway.

As much as I support McCain and want him to crush Obama, if you're not going to use every weapon at your disposal to win, you dont deserve victory. Wake the fuck up John.

Yo Rocky. Do one thing for me

Win

/ adrian

Palin did call Wright "appalling" the other day. But apparently only to Bill Kristol.

I'm not sure that staying away from Wright isn't a good move, long-term. It might indeed look racist (yes, I know it isn't, and that it really speaks to Obama's character, at the very least as someone who will not speak up when he hears wrong being done/said). As it is, Democrats are already inflaming racial tensions. Do we need more inflammation like that, especially if McCain wins a close election?

Those people need to be nuked. (Rhetorically speaking, of course.)

BTW I'm voting for McCain/Palin.

Look, Lieberman is a leftist liberal who has one main commonality with McCain, safeguarding Israel.

The mere fact that he's siding with McCain should tell you a lot about how terrible the specter of Barry is for Israel.

But lets not overvalue his words on Wright.

Wright will become a topic and it will be fun.

The 527s need to hit hard with videos of Rev Wright.

What he said is still very jarring (months after the videos first came out.)

The American people need to see these as often as possible in the coming weeks.

re: #1 bellamags

He'll let Palin have it.

He better!

re: #4 bosforus

If it's "off the table" it's only because I think its significant impact has been realized. McCain better get on the Ayers/Obama bandwagon and give it all he's got or he's done.

I don't think it's "off the table". It is the natural progression of the root of the issue (which is Ayers).
(big) IF the public actually understands and sees the root, the stems will resurface without help from McCain.

It's a strategy for defeat...

re: #2 Jetpilot1101

You know, I thought McCain was a fighter but he is showing me everyday his nack for capitulation.

I don't know where you got that idea, his entire political career was about capitulation to democrats, hell he even co-sponsored some bills with them.

I'm sure the man was a fighter in Hanoi, and I respect him for that, but his political will to fight leaves much to be desired.

re: #5 unrealizedviewpoint

No, he'll let the 527's do it for him. I hope.

So - where are they?
Are they doing this?

re: #11 arethusa

So what.

I'd rather have some people pissed and whining and whinging that another Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court.

Hillary kept from going on the offensive against all of Obama's ties to radicals, terrorists, racists, etc., until it was too late. It now appears that McCain will make the same exact mistake - no matter how well intentioned to keep a high minded electoral approach.

He will let surrogates attack Obama on Wright. That's fine, but the facts are the facts. Obama was a member of Wright's congregation for decades, and not once notice the racism overtly and implied by Wright's sermons, publications, or anything else?

re: #8 unrealizedviewpoint

McCain may believe he'll be labeled a racists should he raise this.
Once the 527's start on it he'll be painted with that brush anyway.

And McCain really has no control over R-527's (when & what they say), unlike the Obama campaign who clearly have broken the laws with regard to communication between D-527's and the campaign.

sorry to comment on my comment..

OT: I tried to post this in the Link Viewer, but for some reason I can't seem to get that to work.

TED is a site for sharing ideas that is gaining some momentum in educational circles. Recently posted is the following:

Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives

The description is:

Psychologist Jonathan Haidt studies the five moral values that form the basis of our political choices, whether we're left, right or center. In this eye-opening talk, he pinpoints the moral values that liberals and conservatives tend to honor most.

It takes 18 minutes to watch the video, unfortunately, but I think it would be useful to discuss this here at LGF perhaps on a FNDT. I'm not sure I quite agree with some of his premises, though.

McCain seems to pull it out at the end. We should still give it a couple of days.

re: #15 Adina in Judea

The 527s need to hit hard with videos of Rev Wright.

What he said is still very jarring (months after the videos first came out.)

The American people need to see these as often as possible in the coming weeks.

The 527s need to have a recognizable name. Most people knew about the (now inactive) Swift Boat Veterans For Truth during the campaign. I personally cannot name one 527 with that kind of name recognition with the public in general now.

It makes no sense because the connection to Rev Wright is far more concrete than the Obama-Ayers connection. I suspect -- I hope -- that this is merely McCain trying to appear "above the fray" knowing full well that the 527's will pound the Rev Wright issue.

Bob Dole part II (unless things change fast).

...well, this is why he'll be a one-term President, assuming he gets there...He doesn't have the balls to call out Obama for his ideology...and Wright is the killer-app against Obama..

twenty years of "God Damn AmeriCAAAAAA!"

Can we get a redo on our GOP candidate please?

re: #5 unrealizedviewpoint

No, he'll bring Wright up himself.

But he will wait until something triggers it first, i.e. someone comes forward and says that Barry was in that church when Wright was spewing his hatred.

BTW, anyone here remember how HRC handled the Wright issue?

Whats the difference between a hockey mom and a pitt bull? lipstick

They should do what the Clinton camp did about Barry's coke use.

They should keep saying 24/7 that they will not bring up Barry's close, personal 20 year relationship with the anti-Semitic, anti-American, pro-NOI, pro-Hamas Reverend Wright.

Over and over again.

Chickensssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssss!

re: #20 yma o hyd

So - where are they?
Are they doing this?

I assume they play primarily in battleground states. I haven't seen the ads. Anyone?

Time is short...

The America electorate needs an education... A long, detailed education... And they need it now...

It's slipping away...

I just sent an email to the campaign and told them to not contact me unless they bring up Rev Wright again...Jeez...DO THEY WANT TO LOSE?

Ayers is in ways a better bet to make the character point. Unfortunately we don't have video. And in this day video is all powerful. So I say run with what you have - lets see the good reverand G-D Ameri- KKK-a again, and again, and again, please. Maybe somebody out there will get it.

I keep thinking back on the good old days when Dole ran that robust campaign?

re: #11 arethusa

Palin did call Wright "appalling" the other day. But apparently only to Bill Kristol.

I'm not sure that staying away from Wright isn't a good move, long-term. It might indeed look racist (yes, I know it isn't, and that it really speaks to Obama's character, at the very least as someone who will not speak up when he hears wrong being done/said). As it is, Democrats are already inflaming racial tensions. Do we need more inflammation like that, especially if McCain wins a close election?

Maybe you're right. McCain has such a big percentage of the black vote. I'm sure it'll make a huge difference if he ties racists like Wright and Farrakhan to Obama.

/not trying to be mean, but what does he really have to lose?

re: #22 lawhawk

Fully agreed. Barry is running as the candidate who happens to be black. Fine.

And Reverend Wright is the fanatical America hating preacher who happens to be black.

And Father Pfleger is the fanatical America hating preacher who happens to be white.

So what?

A great video from an African American explaining why he's voting for McCain. He completely destroys every one of the liberal/democrat myths. Brilliant!

re: #41 buzzsawmonkey

We definitely want to avoid Obama's tender ministrations.

re: #35 unrealizedviewpoint

I assume they play primarily in battleground states. I haven't seen the ads. Anyone?

I haven't heard any radio ad's here in Colorado, at least in the Denver area.

John,

You can't put country first if you lose the election. Take the safeties off all your weapons and close to contact.

Your Friend,

Sol Roth

I posted this on the trhead below:
Obama highlights McCain scandal - the B0 campaign is and will be using any and all 'scandals' they can find.
They are not fighting 'gentlemanly' just because McCain tries to do so.

He must hit back now, with all there is - and there is enough to keep B0 from the White House.
Blydi well use it!

If this is true, McCain is a Grade A moron. If this is simply misdirection and surrogates will be dragging Rev. Wright out from under the bus, it's pure genius.

re: #40 Florida Lady

Maybe you're right. McCain has such a big percentage of the black vote. I'm sure it'll make a huge difference if he ties racists like Wright and Farrakhan to Obama.

/not trying to be mean, but what does he really have to lose?

That is a good point... If truth like that is going to hurt McCain, does that mean he will receive 5% of the black vote, as opposed to 8%? Seriously? And, still, because there IS prejudice in our society still, it may actually gain him some 'white' votes... Sad, but true...

McCain is going to let others do his dirty work. Just like Obama. It would be refreshing for a candidate to just lay it all out.

Look, folks - the Rev. Wright thing may seem like poison to McCain. I (sort of) understand where he may be at on this one. JM understands that the racism card will most assuredly be carelessly tossed out on the table if he pursues this aggressively. I think he understands that no matter how ridiculous or unfounded the charges, the media/left are adept at planting the rotten seed. As we all have seen demonstrated, once that imaginary line has been crossed, there is no redemption possible.

Maybe if the folks just start screaming WRIGHT, WRIGHT, WRIGHT, WRIGHT, WRIGHT at the campaign stops he'll get the message,

You guys are getting ahead of yourselves. There's plenty of ammo in the arsenol to use before Wright.

Let the Ayers issue fester for a few days.

Then the campaign will talk about Rezko for a few days. Maybe also make Obamba explain his history of cocaine use and if he's tempted to return to cocaine. Ask him to explain ACORN's relationship to sub-prime lending. Ask him to explain the ear-mark for his wife's hospital.

Then - depending on how the campaign is going - they can raise Wright if needed. If you raise Wright too early, there is too much time for the smoooooth talking one to disable the bomb. The last images that any undecided voter should see about BHO is the rev.

(This is a lot like the GWB drunk driving arrest.)

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

As much as I support McCain and want him to crush Obama, if you're not going to use every weapon at your disposal to win, you dont deserve victory. Wake the fuck up John.

I couldn't have said it better.

Just as I've said about Israel ("A country that can defeat its enemies and refuses to do so does not deserve to survive") so too about McCain.

Our enemies are Effing barbarians. Obama and his supporters will throw us to the wolves. If McCain won't fight with everything he's got - and Jeremiah Wright was handed to McCain's campaign on a platter - then he does not deserve to win.

Fight John. Our very lives depend on it!

it is an excellent strategy -if they actually want to lose the election!

Since the AP is already calling McCain a racist for bring up Barry's relationship with a white radical, what has he got to lose?

re: #40 Florida Lady

Correct, he's got nothing to lose + it is Barry himself who insists that he is simply the guy who happens to be black. Which means that Wright is the guy who happens to be black.

Fine, I'll take that.

The "O" Team

WTF? Wright and Ayers are part of the story about what is so wrong with the ONE and why we will be so screwed for the next 4 years! Wright used his sermons to teach people that they are victims of evil, white America. Ayers used the Woods Fund and the CAC for the same purpose through the public schools. They are part and parcel of the same story and McCain refuses to tell it.

Disgusting!

If they're scared of being labelled racist, which makes no sense since anyone not voting for Barry obviously is, they should whip out Phleger.

re: #53 DeafDog

See but the problem is that the American people will not take the time to really undrerstand the Rezko deal or Ayers... They perfer their gratification now... This is why Obama is going to be elected... They like sound bytes and American Idol... You vote for the best looking and most eloquent, associations and experience be damned...

Hey y'all - you know saying "it's off the table" doesn't make it necessarily so.

re: #53 DeafDog

You guys are getting ahead of yourselves. There's plenty of ammo in the arsenol to use before Wright.

Let the Ayers issue fester for a few days.

Then the campaign will talk about Rezko for a few days. Maybe also make Obamba explain his history of cocaine use and if he's tempted to return to cocaine. Ask him to explain ACORN's relationship to sub-prime lending. Ask him to explain the ear-mark for his wife's hospital.

Then - depending on how the campaign is going - they can raise Wright if needed. If you raise Wright too early, there is too much time for the smoooooth talking one to disable the bomb. The last images that any undecided voter should see about BHO is the rev.

(This is a lot like the GWB drunk driving arrest.)

absolutely correct. sandbag the bastard.

Wouldn't it be better for McCain if he could have this as an issue without being the one responsible for making the case? If you go on the attack while you're losing in the polls, attacks on an opponent's character look desperate. But if you can have the same attacks come to the fore from someone else, then there isn't as much blowback.

Am I the only one who gets the feeling McCain doesn't seem to care whether or not he wins? Where's the fire? Does he realize there's only 30 days to go?

How many republicans do you know that are voting for Obama?
How many democrats do you know that are voting for McCain?

And what about Obama's close personal friend, former PLO spokesman Rashid Khalidi?

Question now seems to be IS:

Will First Lady, Michelle Obama change the name of The White House?....OR as Jeremiah would call it when he sleeps in the Lincoln bedroom...The God Damn Fucking White Slave Massa House.

These assholes of the Left have not yet tossed the entire book at McCain/Palin, but bet your sweet ass, they will.

You've run out of cheeks to turn John. You're going to lose.

re: #54 Nekama

Love your work, BTW.

BBIAM

re: #54 Nekama

Dude. WHERE THE FORK HAVE YOU BEEN?

re: #53 DeafDog

Absolutely right. There's 30 days left. Lets take this one unconscionable associate at a time.

re: #54 Nekama
Whoa, hey Nekama! How the heck are you?

re: #51 Cartman

And I say let them play the race card! I think that Americans are sick and tired of being called racists or seeing others called racists on bogus pretexts. I say that the more the ONE plays the race card illegitimately the more he loses by it.

Is this the same Rev. Wright who will be head of Homeland Security in the Obama administration?

Hey wasn't John Kerry like 10 points ahead of Bush at this point last go-around?

re: #59 Ben Hur

Exactly, whip out Pfleger. He's the biggest wacko of the all... and he happens to be white.

re: #54 Nekama

I couldn't have said it better.

Just as I've said about Israel ("A country that can defeat its enemies and refuses to do so does not deserve to survive") so too about McCain.

Our enemies are Effing barbarians. Obama and his supporters will throw us to the wolves. If McCain won't fight with everything he's got - and Jeremiah Wright was handed to McCain's campaign on a platter - then he does not deserve to win.

Fight John. Our very lives depend on it!

needs repeat.

re: #60 tfc3rid

See but the problem is that the American people will not take the time to really undrerstand the Rezko deal or Ayers... They perfer their gratification now... This is why Obama is going to be elected... They like sound bytes and American Idol... You vote for the best looking and most eloquent, associations and experience be damned...

The attention span of the American public is a week - tops.

If you run with the Wright story now, then the dickhead One will give an insipid speech on 'race relations' - calling for a national dialougue on race. The MSM will hail it as historic and a great idea (as if we have not been talking about race for 50 years) and the issue will be diffused on Nov. 4.

re: #76 bellamags

No, Bush was 3-5 ahead throughout (well he was 10 ahead before the first debate, which he fucked up and then it was 3-5 points from thereon in).

re: #76 bellamags
Ah, no, I don't recall that at all. I think it was very close up to and including the day or two before the election, with Bush leading (within the margin of error).
God help us all if McCain is pulling a Bob Dole.

re: #65 bellamags

How many republicans do you know that are voting for Obama?
How many democrats do you know that are voting for McCain?

My sister and the vote-eligible members of her family are all registered Dems. One is voting for Obama, three for McCain, FWIW.

What I thought about McCain durfng the primaries I feel more strongly now, if he is so ptristine & above the fray, he should have let someone else be nominated.
If Rudy was the nominee, he would hammer the Wright/Obama connection.
Mitt would have done it too.
McCain can return to his 'Dear Friends" on the other side of the aisle if he loses, & we're screwed.

re: #54 Nekama

Is Palin the only with a set of ovaries/balls in out party?

Isn't John Danforth's group going to do anything about the flagrant voter fraud in Ohio?

re: #82 realwest

Ah, no, I don't recall that at all. I think it was very close up to and including the day or two before the election, with Bush leading (within the margin of error).
God help us all if McCain is pulling a Bob Dole.

He is PULLING A DOLE...face it guys, we are D-U-N, done. McCain is turning into a pussy. At least Palin is getting tough.

Sorry my brain is clouded. I remember being very worried last election cycle.

I'll still wondering why the Columbia University angle - those lost years - is not being brought up either.

Why won't that roommate/friend of his from Columbia not talk to the media?

I think I remember reading somewhere that BHO traveled to Pakistan with at least one of his roommates during that time? If that hapened, what was the purpose of that trip? I'm really curious.

Is it true that in 1981 US citizens were not allowed to travel to Pakistan? If so, how would BHO have gotten into the country? Did his friend sneak him in somehow?

/Am I crazy for asking these questions?

re: #54 Nekama

Well I'll be! An LGF legend weighs in! Welcome back.

re: #83 Cartman

Me too. some of the most racist people I know are democrats. I do not know ONE rep. voting for Obama, but I know quite a few dems voting for McCain. That gives me a little comfort.

As Victor Davis Hanson has pointed out, if McCain does not have the stomach to abandon the Brotherhood of the Senate and play hardball, he will now win the election.

Bush crushed McCain in 2000 playing hardball. Does McCain not understand what is at stake? There are no gentleman's rules in presidential politics.

re: #72 rednaxela

Absolutely right. There's 30 days left. Lets take this one unconscionable associate at a time.

29 days.....but it's ok to tell the democrats 30

re: #85 opnion

It'd hard to get excited about a president who doesn't want to get his own hands dirty.

BHO will drag anything he can out to destroy the McCain/Palin ticket. Why draw some imaginary "off-limits" line on issues when your opponent won't. Wake up man. There are Americans, I can't imagine how many, who still don't know the extent that Wright played into forming Obama's world view. The American public MUST know.

Grow a pair John and show the people you want to win. The people are yearning for a REAL leader.

re: #91 Cartman

Well I'll be! An LGF legend weighs in! Welcome back.

And just like Snufulufugus.......he's gone.

I can sense a huge fuss over voter intimidation and those voting for Obama showing up at the polls at the wrong time or the wrong day. It will happen. Mark my words.

re: #76 bellamags

Hey wasn't John Kerry like 10 points ahead of Bush at this point last go-around?

John Kerry was no Barack Obama.
And with both the war and the economy winding down I think this is different.

My mom and I are strong Conservatrives... Voting for McCain.
My dad is a registered Democrat, USAF vet, voting for McCain...

re: #95 Killgore Trout

None of them do.

Obama went to Wright's church for 20 YEARS.

Any other candidate's career would be in tatters.

well, in spite of this

we all need to help McCain get elected
to avoid the catastrophe of Obama
and his plan to break every bank in the world
by reducing everyone's home loan balance

then get him impeached and removed from office
so Palin can take over
and right the ship that is SS America

WTF is wrong with people? Do they even have a brain?

This guy (Obambi) is a friggin candidate for PRESIDENT!.

Given that he has NO experience, you must judge him by his judgment, meaning, FIRST, the people with whom he associates, PARTICULARLY in the political realm (Ayers).

So what's NOT up for grabs?

re: #99 unrealizedviewpoint

Thanks.

(going to take a Pepcid)

When even Newsweek notices this story, it's got to be huge:

Controversy Over Obama's Small Donors

Now if the RNC follows through on the complaint to the FEC and makes a big enough stink about it, it might go somewhere. Nobody likes a cheater and Obama and the Dems are the biggest cheaters of all.

re: #102 FrogMarch

Obama went to Wright's church for 20 YEARS.

Any other candidate's career would be in tatters.

Amen! That and that alone should have been enough to keep this clown off the ticket...

re: #94 DeafDog

October's got 31 days. I make that 30 days left.

re: #90 Florida Lady

Is the McCain October surprise Obama's 1983 Columbia Thesis: "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament"

I agree with all the posters that the Wright issue should not be off the table. But, I worry that we may be in a situation where we've been OBE.

The news today from the U.S. and global markets is horrendous. The Dow dropping below 10,000 is putting the economy front and center.

I would also hope Sen. McCain can somehow drive home his fight - in 2001, 2004, 2005, etc. - particularly with regard to Fannie and Freddie - in a compelling way. Perhaps something like:

For seven years Sen. McCain warned us about the coming economic meltdown and what he proposed to do to avert it.

For seven years, Sen. Obama and his allies downplayed the problem and blocked any proposal to deal with it.

Sen. Obama won that round.

Do you really want to give him a chance to "win" the next one?

Shalom Y'all. I lurk a lot but spend most of my innernut time writing my own anonymous blogs on the local newspaper. I get lots of my material from Charles's fantastic linkviewer.

We're pretty much on the same page here. I return when I need some re-charging and the company of smart, decent, good-humored and razor-taloned lizards.

But the real fight is out there. It's in our media and among the malleable.

I beg of my fellow lizards: PLEASE write letters to the editor. PLEASE write your own blogs and do what ever you can do to get the word out about Obama.

I honestly believe we may see the end of days should he be elected. I already believe that Israel has lost the will to fight and will disappear in our lifetimes.

I will not see it happen in these United States if I have an ounce of strength remaining. I know this goes for you all too. Please go out and fight hard.

re: #95 Killgore Trout

It'd hard to get excited about a president who doesn't want to get his own hands dirty.

Exactly, if he won't go all out, the he should have stepped aside during the primaries.
It seems to me that Sarah Palin gets it, why doesn't McCain?

re: #87 Sol Roth

Isn't John Danforth's group going to do anything about the flagrant voter fraud in Ohio?

In addition to the voter fraud issue, I was wondering what took the RNC so long to act on the Internet issue, too.

My theory is that the RNC is planning on a 'close loss' scenario. They may be positioning for a law suit strategy. BHO will need the courts to back him (which they probably will), but the cost will be screaming conservatives about a 'stolen' election - sort of like what GWB has had to deal with.

Thought I would stir up the "Evolution" pot today for your edification.

God, Evolution and Charles Darwin

Money quote:

“In my most extreme fluctuations I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God.”

re: #86 MJBrutus

It sure looks that way.

re: #84 taxfreekiller

Does not matter what McCain does, or what this liberal Democrat says,
it is our duty to prevent Obama from getting elected, like tfk has said all along , we will have to drag McCain across the finish line, its just what it is, then once that is done, we will have to keep our eye on him and his questionable associations, (Kennedy) for four long years.

If it was easy the commies would have won the cold war.

Just fight back.

Agree, tfk, but if McCain doesn't come out fighting for that vote tomorrow night he'll fall further behind and may be to much dead weight to carry.

Nice guys finish last in this election. John McCain, you are incredible.

John,

What are you going to do when there is a communist in the White House?

What are you going to do when they nationalize health care?

What are you going to do when they nationalize the energy industry?

What are you going to do when they start to define all dissent as hate crime?

What are you going to do when they make my kind a criminal for owning firearms?

What are you going to do when they declare the NRA a subversive organization?

Do you really think they are playing by any rules?

If you are really putting the country first, maybe you should realize what you are up against, and realize this is by far the most important battle you've ever been involved in, and you don't have the luxury of playing by any rules.

Sad, the Republicans, like the Bush Administration, have internalized the criticisms of the far left. The left says the GOP is full of racists, and the guilty white fat guys in charge hang their heads, shuffle their feet and head off to manditory "diversity" training....

Here are some ideas I've culled from around the blogosphere and sent to the McCain camp:

1. Obama likely wouldn’t pass a background check to work in the Department of Defense and he wants be Commander in Chief?

2. Palin: maybe the MSM should have spent more time in Chicago then Wasilla…

3. Thought the Obama camp only knew how to play the Race Card. It would seem they have knowledge of the Ignorance Card as well

4. Comparing McCain and Obama's health care plans, the comment should be simple and concise: “If you like how the government oversaw FNMA & FRMC, you will love Obama's health care program”.

5. Suggestion for McCain ad regarding Obama's associations: “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”

6. Barack Obama appears to know nothing about those with whom he associates. Yeah, cluelessness is a super great quality in a President.

re: #114 HugoChavez

Some interesting quotes there.

Hey everyone, I just posted a link to the pictures I took of unhinged Sarah Palin Derangement Syndrome in the streets of Southern California this past weekend:
Sarah Palin Visits Southern California

Please excuse any typos...I was half asleep when I posted this last night.

re: #111 Nekama

Damn, you're for real. I thought you were like J.D. Sallinger. Write a memorable masterpiece and then disappear.

re: #103 Adrenalyn

well, in spite of this

we all need to help McCain get elected
to avoid the catastrophe of Obama
and his plan to break every bank in the world
by reducing everyone's home loan balance

then get him impeached and removed from office
so Palin can take over
and right the ship that is SS America

Just my opinion, but it's about time we stop playing these fanasty games. McCain is not fighting for this, and his seeminly lack of interest is going to translate to the voters, especially the independents.

And Palin has very little to do with the equation, at least in your suggestion above about running the country. She is a VP candidate, not the presidential candidate.

It doesn't look good. And that's not a given, I'm not giving up, but dang it all, reality is reality and all the slogans aren't going to help one little bit.

Do, or do not. There is no try.

re: #82 realwest

Ah, no, I don't recall that at all. I think it was very close up to and including the day or two before the election, with Bush leading (within the margin of error).
God help us all if McCain is pulling a Bob Dole.

This morning's Rasmussen tracking poll reveals that you are correct:

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows Barack Obama attracting 52% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. This is the highest level of support ever recorded for Obama and is his largest lead of the year...It is worth noting that Obama’s lead is now bigger than any lead enjoyed at any point by either candidate in Election 2004."

re: #112 opnion

Exactly, if he won't go all out, the he should have stepped aside during the primaries.
It seems to me that Sarah Palin gets it, why doesn't McCain?

agree, opnion...ding

re: #105 bellamags

Thanks.

(going to take a Pepcid)

sorry, really!
Try "Equate" ranitidine (generic). It's the same exact thing only 80% less money.

re: #102 FrogMarch

Obama went to Wright's church for 20 YEARS.

Any other candidate's career would be in tatters.

So true. It is the equivalant of a white candidate being in the KKK. Just plan racist.

The Rev God Damn America is an issue that resonates with a lot of people. Taking it off the table is absurd. The people who will justify Wright and Obama's association aren't going to vote for McCain anyway.

OT:

Citi sues Wachovia, Wells Fargo for not less than 60 BIllion

On a lighter note, FNC is repoting that Sarah Palin will appear on SNL spoofing Tina Fey, spoofing her.
They are not kidding. It could be hilarious & viewers would admire her for doing it.
You go girl, two snaps

Charles:

can you make some sort of easy link
so Lizards can email the McCain campaign
and implore him to use Wright
and to put up a fight

every day, each of us should email McCain
and remind him he is supposed to fight for the job
not be handed it because he's a fucking nice guy

by the way, where do nice guys finish ?

re: #90 Florida Lady

I'll still wondering why the Columbia University angle - those lost years - is not being brought up either.

Why won't that roommate/friend of his from Columbia not talk to the media?

I think I remember reading somewhere that BHO traveled to Pakistan with at least one of his roommates during that time? If that hapened, what was the purpose of that trip? I'm really curious.

Is it true that in 1981 US citizens were not allowed to travel to Pakistan? If so, how would BHO have gotten into the country? Did his friend sneak him in somehow?

/Am I crazy for asking these questions?

Nope.
But the MSM haven't worked out yet (in close collaboration with the B0 campaign) how to counter this, while smearing McCain and Palin at the same time.

Allright!
I'm officially getting sick!
The Rev...
Is as if not more a racist than Billybob and Homer on a friday night beer drinking binge!
He makes Al and Jesse look like punks...
Somone better Shit or get off the pot!

Didn't guy what that sit-in presenter Mark Whateverhisname on the Rush show just said about the Bradley effect. That was poor broadcasting and poor politics too.

re: #108 rednaxela

October's got 31 days. I make that 30 days left.

tomorrow is tuesday - that's 1 day
the election is 4 weeks from then - that's 28 days.

I'm still getting 29....but no matter. I was just making a funny.

Guys,

Lieberman is saying this, not McCain or his staff. Lieberman is not involve with their strategy decisions. Just yesterday, Palin went after Wright. Enough said.

re: #120 Florida Lady

Here are some ideas I've culled from around the blogosphere and sent to the McCain camp:

2. Palin: maybe the MSM should have spent more time in Chicago then Wasilla…

The MSM has had a field day regarding ONE conversation that Palin supposedly had (the whole "banning" nonsense). Imagine if they held Obama to the same standard, and single conversation might be disqualifying... the mind boggles.

re: #132 opnion

On a lighter note, FNC is repoting that Sarah Palin will appear on SNL spoofing Tina Fey, spoofing her.
They are not kidding. It could be hilarious & viewers would admire her for doing it.
You go girl, two snaps

HA! I'll actually watch that crappy show for once after avoiding its unfunniness for 20 years.

re: #128 unrealizedviewpoint

sweet. i'll stock up.

OT - But, this almost made me vomit:

AFL-CIO's Richard Trumka on Racism and Obama

Progressive!

re: #124 Walter L. Newton

fantasy or not
I have advocated Bush resign for a while now
so Cheney could see if he'd be better equipped to handle the Dem's
and that went no where
but I am fed up with Bush being a pussy

and McCain ought to do better
look where it got Bush (and America) by playing nice with assholes
no, make that evil assholes

Somebody needs send this thread to the campaign.

The Dow has dropped past the -5% mark again.

re: #143 Adrenalyn

right on right on.

re: #131 Creeping Eruption

OT:

Citi sues Wachovia, Wells Fargo for not less than 60 BIllion

WOw... That will be able to help them pay for the naming rights to the Mets new ballpark...

This country was founded by men with balls. What has happend?

PIMF #136

Didn't like what the guy on the Rush show just said about the Bradley effect.

I think JSM is too concerned about being labeled a racist if he brings up Rev Wright. Doesn't he realize that the left has long ago hung this label around his neck. Please John, grow a pair and don't be afraid of speaking the truth.

re: #133 Adrenalyn

Charles:

can you make some sort of easy link
so Lizards can email the McCain campaign
and implore him to use Wright
and to put up a fight

every day, each of us should email McCain
and remind him he is supposed to fight for the job
not be handed it because he's a fucking nice guy

by the way, where do nice guys finish ?

He probably considers us the fringe.

Anyone think it's possible that a lot of people who are being polled say they're for Obama so as not to appear racist, but when they actually get in the booth, they'll vote for McCain?

re: #153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Anyone think it's possible that a lot of people who are being polled say they're for Obama so as not to appear racist, but when they actually get in the booth, they'll vote for McCain?

NO!

M is for Muslim

re: #144 unrealizedviewpoint

Somebody needs send this thread to the campaign.

Why? Last week, from everthing I was reading, the bigger percentage of Americans did not want this bailout bill. Did that effect McCains vote?

Why do you think this thread would have any influence on the campaign?

Isn't it evident that those folks in DC are not up there representing the citizens?

The only thing I see on this thread is a bunch of honest, hopeful voters fooling themselves.

re: #150 rednaxela

PIMF #136

Didn't like what the guy on the Rush show just said about the Bradley effect.

Um, what did he say?

re: #89 bellamags

Sorry my brain is clouded.

/Please don't forget to pick up your DNC membership card on your way out.

re: #137 DeafDog

Either way, its a hell of a long time in politics.

re: #153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Anyone think it's possible that a lot of people who are being polled say they're for Obama so as not to appear racist, but when they actually get in the booth, they'll vote for McCain?

It may be wrong, but I am hoping for that.

John, you are no longer being held prisoner. You don't have to be nice to your enemies anymore.

re: #153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Anyone think it's possible that a lot of people who are being polled say they're for Obama so as not to appear racist, but when they actually get in the booth, they'll vote for McCain?

The Bradley effect? Most definitely.

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

T is for Teleprompter, my bestest friend.

re: #152 unrealizedviewpoint

He probably considers us the fringe.

does not mean we have to say we are from here
just a link to make it easy for us to email him daily

I am not saying Charles should try asserting any kind of muscle or leverage

a simple link reminder to folks and their non-Lizard friends

C is for Churchless - Barack chose his campaign over his church

Why on earth can't the McCain campaign get out the message that it's the Democrats whose actions led to the current crisis, that Republicans were fighting for reform (and even oversight and regulation), and that Obama is the second largest recipient of Fannie donations, despite being a rookie senator?

I'm not despairing yet, but I'm losing hope. I don't know if Palin can singlehandedly win this election for McCain.

re: #120 Florida Lady

Your point #2 is remarkable. The Press goes dumpster diving on Palin in Alaska. They even visited bars & offered cash for dirt on Palin!
In Chicago, the evidence against Obama, with Rezko & Ayers etc. is screaming, "Hey look at me."
Hell the NY Times covers Ayers as a preemptive strike, bring it up & exonerate Barry.

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

S is for socialist, that's who Obama is.
He'll turn this country that way for shiz.

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

F is for Farrakhan, Fanny Mae & Freddie Mac

W is for Wright

re: #153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Anyone think it's possible that a lot of people who are being polled say they're for Obama so as not to appear racist, but when they actually get in the booth, they'll vote for McCain?

No. Have you spoken to these Obama supporters? They are hypnotized by him. And they are so ready to try to defeat the Repubs, that they could have nominated a horse for the job, and they would vote for it. These folks are not even thinking.

re: #158 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So i can burn it?

Well, I'm off to Repub HQ to pick up a bunch of McCain/Palin '08 yard signs for distribution in my neighborhood. Out of curiosity, I looked up the online voter registration in my precinct, and it's about 70% Dem. Wish me luck - this should be an adventure. ;-D

re: #153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Maybe 1-2%.

But there's also a lot of the extra black folks who will vote for Obama and they are underrepresented in polls.

So we are non the wiser.

I have an idea for a new McCain ad

close in on John and the missus at church on a Sunday
a nice, happy church

then the camera focus' in on John and he says

welcome to my church mister and missus America

and now Barack, it's your turn
what church are you at this Sunday ?

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

Why? Last week, from everthing I was reading, the bigger percentage of Americans did not want this bailout bill. Did that effect McCains vote?

Why do you think this thread would have any influence on the campaign?

Isn't it evident that those folks in DC are not up there representing the citizens?

The only thing I see on this thread is a bunch of honest, hopeful voters fooling themselves.

As I said just above, McCain probably considers lizards the fringe anyway. He ain't gonna listen. As far as the bailout is concerned you and I will never know if it really was the right thing to do. Like lost mail, ya never know what ya don't get.

S is for Stain. Says the Declaration of Independence is "stained by this nation’s original sin of slavery"

X is for Obama the unknown quantity (to some at least).

re: #166 Drained Brain

Why on earth can't the McCain campaign get out the message that it's the Democrats whose actions led to the current crisis, that Republicans were fighting for reform (and even oversight and regulation), and that Obama is the second largest recipient of Fannie donations, despite being a rookie senator?

I'm not despairing yet, but I'm losing hope. I don't know if Palin can singlehandedly win this election for McCain.

Well, if she does, then we have a bigger problem after he get in the White House.

THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE:

1987 William Ayers meets Barack Obama

1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education

1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.

1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation

1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge

1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)

2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.

Honestly, I'm more bothered by the Ayers issue (which is not to say I'm not bothered by Wright). The only way the Wright issue works better for McCain than it did for Clinton is if a clip showing Obama in the audience during one of those sermons shows up. Nodding in approval, clapping, witnessing, something. (I wish it existed.)

S is for Soetero, a name Barry used
Obama, Soetero...I'm getting confused.

Probably been said, but this may be a brilliant way of bringing up Wright while saying, officially, he won;t bring up Wright.

Let the media talk about Wright, and show the clips McCain won't be using, while discussing McCain's refusal to bring up Wright and use those clips.

McCain keeps the high ground, AND Wright gets brought up.

Or am I nuts?

The ABCs of Obama . . .

"those aren't the ABCs I knew!"

re: #166 Drained Brain

I couldn't agree more! (I did post something at 110 that refers to that.)

re: #176 unrealizedviewpoint

As I said just above, McCain probably considers lizards the fringe anyway. He ain't gonna listen. As far as the bailout is concerned you and I will never know if it really was the right thing to do. Like lost mail, ya never know what ya don't get.

But my point still stands. The majority didn't want it, they voted for it anyway. That's the bottom line.

re: #51 Cartman

Look, folks - the Rev. Wright thing may seem like poison to McCain. I (sort of) understand where he may be at on this one. JM understands that the racism card will most assuredly be carelessly tossed out on the table if he pursues this aggressively. I think he understands that no matter how ridiculous or unfounded the charges, the media/left are adept at planting the rotten seed. As we all have seen demonstrated, once that imaginary line has been crossed, there is no redemption possible.

The racist card is being played 24/7 by Obama's surrogates in the media. You know, the same people that the average voter turns to for news. The American public in general, has a very short attention span. For this reason, Obama's 20 year association with Rev Wright needs to come back to the front. Damned near everyone judges people by their associates. We need to remind the voters that Obama associates with vile, disgusting and demented people and calls them his mentors.

re: #160 DeafDog

It may be wrong, but I am hoping for that.

I only started seriously considering this possibility after that AP/Yahoo poll came out a few weeks ago stating that about 30% of DEMS had misgivings about voting for Obama because he was black.

Takin' the high road to defeat.

S is for Sounds. He says the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."

OT:

DOW now down 550, S&P 500 down 62, gold up about $28

re: #153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Anyone think it's possible that a lot of people who are being polled say they're for Obama so as not to appear racist, but when they actually get in the booth, they'll vote for McCain?

No.

re: #186 Walter L. Newton

But my point still stands. The majority didn't want it, they voted for it anyway. That's the bottom line.

Eat your vegetables! They're good for you.

S is for Stalin, Good ole Uncle Joe

Palin should handle this attack-dogging. McCain should stick to the more meaty issues.

re: #140 Sol Roth

HA! I'll actually watch that crappy show for once after avoiding its unfunniness for 20 years.

They actually did a skit on the market meltdown that put the blame firmly where it belongs:

[Link: www.nbc.com...]

S is also for Secrets. Secret 3 week trip to Pakistan in 1981 while the country was on the "do not visit" list.

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

I was picking my Mom's brain as to why she's voting for Obama and it seems she really wants to like him. His inexperience isn't a problem but Palin's inexperience is an outrage. She's also convinced Hillary was an extremist but Obama is a reasonable moderate. She won't admit it but she just really wants to like him for some reason.

re: #90 Florida Lady

I'll still wondering why the Columbia University angle - those lost years - is not being brought up either.

Why won't that roommate/friend of his from Columbia not talk to the media?

I think I remember reading somewhere that BHO traveled to Pakistan with at least one of his roommates during that time? If that hapened, what was the purpose of that trip? I'm really curious.

Is it true that in 1981 US citizens were not allowed to travel to Pakistan? If so, how would BHO have gotten into the country? Did his friend sneak him in somehow?

/Am I crazy for asking these questions?

No, you're not crazy -- in fact, you're asking all the questions that a truly impartial, non-biased, investigative journalist would be asking. Apparently, no where in the Free World does such journalism exist...the Free Press now exists solely to promote and actively campaign for the election of Obama. And we don't want to upset the Fwench, now, do we?

Man, I'd love to see McCain hammer Obama on Wright and every other bad guy he's hung out with. But honestly I think it's a bit late in the day. It's all economy, all the time.

So to that end I'd like to see McCain hammer Obama by proxy, by taking down his Democratic colleagues. If the American people see Barney Frank and Chuck Schumer hit with fraud charges, it'll do great damage to Obama.

as for those folks worried about the media labeling McCain and his campaign racist

fuck it, that's already out there

the only way to deal with it is the same way Palin dealt with her daughter's pregnancy

shove it in their face

McCain should call Obama a racist
and a racist
and a racist
and back it up with the Wright tapes

he and Palin are already getting called racists for pointing out Ayers (a white guy) ties

so go for it

hell, bring Bristol Palin out with the tapes

Hi America: this is Bristol Palin
I won't want to raise my as yet unborn child into a racists America such as this (and cue the Wright tapes)

I am Bristol Palin, mother-to-be
and I approved this message

re: #150 rednaxela

PIMF #136

Didn't like what the guy on the Rush show just said about the Bradley effect.

I'm not listening to Rush, but I think we need a new term that encompasses the entirety of the groupthink involved in Political Correctness, not just one related to the PC-ness of race and voting.

Many people will be voting against Hussein because they realize he's an inexperienced, radical socialist. They live in States and work with people where it would be career-suicide to voice their opinion outside the polling booth.

PC-Antivote?

(bbl)

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

No. Have you spoken to these Obama supporters? They are hypnotized by him. And they are so ready to try to defeat the Repubs, that they could have nominated a horse for the job, and they would vote for it. These folks are not even thinking.

I don't think any Bradley effect applies to Obamaniacs...it would apply to those who are Democratic or independent but are doubtful about Obama. Not all of his supporters are glassy-eyed lunatics.

That Temple professor O'Reilly has on his show, an Obama supporter, said a few weeks back, when Obama was only up 2 in the polls, that if Obama wasn't up by at least 6 on Nov. 4, he would lose for that very reason. Only time will tell.

P is for Post-racial, an Obama claim
Don't mention his pastor or his middle name

The simple fact is this: Tomorrow night is the debate on the economy. McCain doesn't need to do much more than outline a coherent plan for getting the economy back on track. That's it.
And that's it because Obama HAS NO PLAN FOR THE ECONOMY. NONE.
His entire primary fight against Hillary and his fight so far against McCain has presented only one thing: a desire on Obama's part to "redistribute the wealth" and the only way he can do that is by raising taxes.
In fact, in the first debate Obama admitted that some of his "programs" might have to be slowed down or put on hold because of the poor economy. But Obama has NO ECONOMIC PLANS EXCEPT TO RAISE TAXES.
And NOT just on the "rich" folk who are making over $250,000 a year (and there are fewer of them then there were even when the first debate occured). He intends to let the Bush Tax Cuts lapse. That means everyone making more than $42,500 will in fact be paying more taxes, even though it's not an Obama tax increase.
And it means a lot, A LOT of small businesses will be paying taxes too - if they are making over $250,000 a year and are either LLC's, LLP's or Subchapter S corporations, all that gross income goes into the income of the individual(s) who own the business.
If McCain doesn NOTHING ELSE, he needs to HAMMER Obama on this and make sure the American people know this fact.
As much as taking on Ayers personally appeals to me, I think McCain can make huge gains by sticking it to Obama; don't get bogged down in details John, just keep hammering away at the fact that Obama has NO ECONOMIC PLAN that makes ANY SENSE AT ALL in this current economic climate.

J is for Joo
Who took it all from you.

re: #166 Drained Brain

Why on earth can't the McCain campaign get out the message that it's the Democrats whose actions led to the current crisis, that Republicans were fighting for reform (and even oversight and regulation), and that Obama is the second largest recipient of Fannie donations, despite being a rookie senator?

I'm not despairing yet, but I'm losing hope. I don't know if Palin can singlehandedly win this election for McCain.

The sad thing is that it was John McCain himself who introduced legislation to reign in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac 5 years ago! Yet he ignores it!

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

No. Have you spoken to these Obama supporters? They are hypnotized by him. And they are so ready to try to defeat the Repubs, that they could have nominated a horse for the job, and they would vote for it. These folks are not even thinking.

You have unfortunately nailed it. His support is blind and fanatical.
They get hysterical if Obama is criticized in any way, yet these same people have no problem rolling in the gutter snidely slamming the pregnant daughter & the Down baby. A lot of Barry's supporters are giving despicable a bad name.

Slightly OT but here's yet another brainwashing/ conditioning for the Obama mindset:

This is a cross between a Hitler youth rally and a communist brain-washing episode.

How f*cking sad :-(

McCain and Obama have something in common.

They both hung out with Communists in their 20s.

re: #187 Wendya

A parting note - I do not disagree that the Wright association should be hammered home by John McCain himself. Quite to the contrary - I hope he does so, and very soon. I was merely musing as to why he might be avoiding the strategy, that's all.

Like Rush says partisanship is the hard choice.. bi partisanship is the easy choice. McCain can get his arms broken and still take the easy choices.

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

No. Have you spoken to these Obama supporters? They are hypnotized by him. And they are so ready to try to defeat the Repubs, that they could have nominated a horse for the job, and they would vote for it. These folks are not even thinking.

I'm not talking about those hypnotized by Obama's bullshit. I'm talking about those leaning towards voting for Obama.

D is for 'Downright Mean'!

Michele's as angry as you evuh seen!

re: #207 realwest

simpler
McCain needs to point out Obama's plan to reset everyone's principal on their mortgages

suddenly mr and mrs America
your loan is reduced by X%

but your home's value is reduced by 100%

good luck with that Senator Obama

and by the way
my opinion

the market types are fleeing in panic not so much as just the bank fiasco

but the prospect of an Obama White House
anyone ever consider that ?
his polls go up
the market goes down

/partly a factor perhaps....

re: #200 Killgore Trout

guilt.

Perhaps I'm not getting all the info available to you (local TV stations/local papers) about the McCain campaign, so forgive me this question:
Are there any others, besides Palin, rooting for McCain? Like Giuliani, Romney ...

It feels very stange to me that apparently McCain is a lone fighter, with the RNC just some sort of shadowy entity, not pulling its weight.
Do the Republicans as a whole have a death wish?

It's as if Sarah Palin has to drag McCain into the White House.

McCain may as well put Obama's number on speed-dial and start practicing his concession speech.

re: #180 Kenneth

I think the relationship may go back further than 1987. While Obama was at Columbia in the early '80s, Ayers was earning a degree from Bank Street College of Education. Despite the name, it's located in Morningside Heights (i.e. the same neighborhood as Columbia). Unless someone who knew them both comes forward, it would be impossible to prove, but it's an awfully big coincidence.

re: #213 faraway

McCain and Obama have something in common.

They both hung out with Communists in their 20s.

very nice! I plan to steal this and use it as my own from now on... :)

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." - Barack Obama's Dreams From My Father, pages 100-101.

McCain should ask him to explain this during the debate.

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

R is for Racist
The Tag for all my detractors

re: #218 Adrenalyn
Not to mention that if the principal balance on your mortgage is "reset" that constitutes a forgiveness of debt under the Internal Revenue Code and the IRS regulations such that that reduction in principal balance will be treated as INCOME TO THE HOMEOWNER and the HOMEOWNER will be expected to pay taxes on that sum.

re: #213 faraway

McCain and Obama have something in common.

They both hung out with Communists in their 20s.

..and apparently Obama still does.

re: #168 bellamags

S is for socialist, that's who Obama is.
He'll turn this country that way for shiz.

S might also be for Soros,
The one who owns the One.

re: #200 Killgore Trout

I was picking my Mom's brain as to why she's voting for Obama and it seems she really wants to like him. His inexperience isn't a problem but Palin's inexperience is an outrage. She's also convinced Hillary was an extremist but Obama is a reasonable moderate. She won't admit it but she just really wants to like him for some reason.

I'd hazard the guess that she - like some of my American friends - wants to feel good about voting for a black candidate.
I think that a huge number of those voting for B0 do so jsut because they do not want to be labelled 'racist', and ahve bought into B0 now to such an extent that they can see no way out.

re: #31 wiffersnapper

Can we get a redo on our GOP candidate please?

Have you forgotten the joys of operation chaos?

Hey guys, this is a poker game and McCain is just holding onto his hole cards while the other guy adds to the pot. It will all come out, and it needs to come out close to the election. Wait to see what happens tomorrow at the debate. That might be the time when the cards start to be put into play.

re: #220 yma o hyd
Hi there! Well Rudy Giuliani has been on McCain's side so far, but Rudy is, by nature, an aggressive type A FIGHTER and although he always appears at post debate "discussions" he's hardly seen anywhere anymore - and I think that's because McCain doesn't think "gentlemen" should campaign in a hard, partisan, fashion. Fred Thompson is the same way as Rudy but you don't see him very much except for post debate post-Morten's either.

You can't trust a democrat.

re: #229 yma o hyd

I'd hazard the guess that she - like some of my American friends - wants to feel good about voting for a black candidate.

It's a possibility but that's very unlike her.

McCain is a limp noodle in need of a dose of political Viagra.

The hero refuses to use all of the arrows in his quiver-and prefers to go down like the other Republican hero-moderate and dullard, Bob Dole.

Buy your semi automatics and ammunition now...once Barry is in office it will be against the law to defend yourself.

re: #231 Ruthless

Hey guys, this is a poker game and McCain is just holding onto his hole cards while the other guy adds to the pot. It will all come out, and it needs to come out close to the election. Wait to see what happens tomorrow at the debate. That might be the time when the cards start to be put into play.

Interesting. McCain's holding a straight flush, checking, and allowing his opponents to over bet the pot. Wait till the river.

re: #229 yma o hyd
Ah yes, but voters can SAY whatever the hell they want; what they do in the privacy of the voting booth is sometimes radically different than what they say in public.

Last time I was here I was pretty soundly rebuffed for suggesting that maybe Republicans deserve to lose if they're not willing to fight to win, and that we should withold our campaign contributions until they are.

Well, how does everyone feel now?

re: #231 Ruthless
If it doesn't come out at the debate ON ECONOMICS tomorrow, then McCain is TOAST.

re: #232 realwest

Hi there! Well Rudy Giuliani has been on McCain's side so far, but Rudy is, by nature, an aggressive type A FIGHTER and although he always appears at post debate "discussions" he's hardly seen anywhere anymore - and I think that's because McCain doesn't think "gentlemen" should campaign in a hard, partisan, fashion. Fred Thompson is the same way as Rudy but you don't see him very much except for post debate post-Morten's either.

Hi rw!
I thinks thats very sad - I think they should be out, campaigning as hard and partisan and ungentleman-like as possible.
Every party needs some 'attack dogs'.

It just seems so odd to me - but thats due to the way politics and elections are run in this country. If for example there were General elections next month - the whole Tory Party bigwigs (as well as the Labour Party people, natch!) would be out canvassing, all over the British Isles.
It would be 'all hands to the pumps' ...

re: #234 Killgore Trout
Well Killgore, if that is very much unlike her, why do you suppose she feels the way she does about Obama?

re: #238 Lizard by the Bay

Last time I was here I was pretty soundly rebuffed for suggesting that maybe Republicans deserve to lose if they're not willing to fight to win, and that we should withold our campaign contributions until they are.

Well, how does everyone feel now?

If we withhold contributions, how the hell can they fight? The fight should be starting to peak in the last weeks before the election, otherwise the points will go down the MSM memory hole. I have donated as much as I can, $500, and wish I could give more. I think the Republicans are holding their fire and we will see the big guns start to go after the debate tomorrow, with spare ammo being held for the final debate, and even more for the last week leading up to Nov. 4.

re: #40 Florida Lady

Maybe you're right. McCain has such a big percentage of the black vote. I'm sure it'll make a huge difference if he ties racists like Wright and Farrakhan to Obama.

/not trying to be mean, but what does he really have to lose?

The votes of white and Hispanic moderates, which is what he most needs to gain.

Debate on economics...hmm....what if McCain mentioned that ACORN's intimidation tactics are the cause of many bad mortgage loans?

re: #238 Lizard by the Bay
I don't recall you're being rebuffed because if Republicans don't fight to win it, I think you were rebuffed for saying that Republicans don't want to win it.
And you're wrong about that - at least judging by the sentiments expressed on LGF.

Dear McCain campaign folks who might be reading this:

I am a right of center Independent ... that is what I am to the core. I have voted for Bill Clinton and I have voted for Ronald Reagan. I am EXACTLY the guy McCain needs if he expects to win. And I'll tell you something: of all the things that make me suspicious about Obama, his association with wright is NUMBER ONE ON MY LIST!

Are you listening, McCain campaign? Even if Obama never heard wright say "GD America," there is no question that he attended the church during the time that wright honored the putrid louis farrakhan and published hamas propaganda in the church bulletin. Why are you not pointing out these associations with terrorists and their supporters? Is it because bill ayres is white and wright/farrakhan are black? Here's a news bulletin: 90+ percent of blacks are NOT voting for McCain anyway. So stop being polyannas! You are committing political malpractice by not bringing this up. Are you listening McCain campaign?

If the McCain campaign feels this is off limits and McCain agrees with them, they are THROWING the election! And if they care so little about doing what it takes to win, they can hand this country over to leftist ass holes. But don't fucking whine about the media bias if you don't have the stomach to even TRY to get this message out.

Are you listening McCain campaign?

re: #104 HugoChavez

WTF is wrong with people? Do they even have a brain?

This guy (Obambi) is a friggin candidate for PRESIDENT!.

Given that he has NO experience, you must judge him by his judgment, meaning, FIRST, the people with whom he associates, PARTICULARLY in the political realm (Ayers).

So what's NOT up for grabs?

His ears.

re: #237 realwest

Ah yes, but voters can SAY whatever the hell they want; what they do in the privacy of the voting booth is sometimes radically different than what they say in public.

Yep - but what they say in private discussions is more of an indicator. Unfortunately, neither the considered argumetns of other Americans nor the examples of life under communist (ahem, thats NuLab!) rule as seen in the UK and described in lurid colours by us Brits seem to have any effect at all ...
(We're still trying!)

re: #222 doppelganglander

Yes, I speculated about that connection in an earlier post. It's a heck of a coincidence, that they lived & studied in the same neighborhood in New york, then Obama moves to a city he has no personal association with and lands a job at a firm Bernadette Dohrn, the wife of Bill Ayers, was working at. And then, the next 3 steps in Obama's career are associated with Ayers: Chicago Allenberg Challenge, The Woods Foundation & the launching Obama's political career from Ayers home.

re: #232 realwest

Hi real,

I hadn't noticed that, but I think you may have a point.

McCain has to take off the gloves. Listening to a Rev Wright sermon, no less attending his church for twenty years demonstrates, at the very least, a startling lack of judgement. Of course, Rev Wright is an issue. He hates my country. So many questionable friends, associates. Get wise, McCain. If you wanted to play nice, you should have run for a church council not the presidency of the US. So much hinges on this election (wot, SCOTUS appointees, a nuclear Iran, etc). If you weren't willing to give it your all, you should have stayed in the Senate with the rest of the good old boys (and girls) and let someone with more energy take on Obama. I'm getting pretty fed up with the nice guy image because I think it well lose an election for McCain. The citizens of the US will pay a hefty price for Mccains' unwillingness to get down and dirty. Why the hell did he run if he wasn't going to fight?

re: #246 realwest

I don't recall you're being rebuffed because if Republicans don't fight to win it, I think you were rebuffed for saying that Republicans don't want to win it.
And you're wrong about that - at least judging by the sentiments expressed on LGF.

Too bad no one on LGF is running (or at least running a campaign). The fact that I have to go traipsing through conservative blogs to find the dirt on Obama I should be seeing on campaign commercials (much less reported by the newsmedia) is evidence of what I'm saying. We don't even have the ear of our own party. We're just one of "those embarrasing blog-thingys" to the GOP power structure.

I have to say we have a lot of Chicken Littles around here.

Not a day goes by that one issue hits the news and somebody posts, "McCain just lost the election."

What a ridiculous statement! It's like you want to be on the record so that, G-d forbid, McCain loses, you can go back and say, "See, I told you he'd lose on October 6th."

One news story is not going sink this campaign anymore than one story with win it. It's a cumulative effort. Every little nagging doubt build more and more to crush Obama, one pebble at a time. A few voters drop out due to one issue or another and his support crumbles away. By panicking at every little thing, you fall into the trap the media set for us.

I think anyway. :)

The New York Post, for one, offers up a pretty good editorial on this topic.

re: #122 Ringo the Gringo

Hey everyone, I just posted a link to the pictures I took of unhinged Sarah Palin Derangement Syndrome in the streets of Southern California this past weekend:
Sarah Palin Visits Southern California

Please excuse any typos...I was half asleep when I posted this last night.

Great stuff, Ringo ! Just great!

re: #76 bellamags

Hey wasn't John Kerry like 10 points ahead of Bush at this point last go-around?

No, throughout almost all of October, Bush held a small lead.

Obama Campaign:

If McCain intoduces Wright to the campaign, we will reopen the issue of whether or not the USA created the AIDS virus to target Africans and African Americans.

We will reopen the issue of whether or not 911 wuz chichens coiming hoooommmme, to roooosssssssssssssssst.

The McCain camp brings in Wright at its own peril.

You have been warned, flyboy!

re: #252 Lizard by the Bay

The only campaign ads I see are the ones on the net. I realize there is a limit to how far a candidate can stretch himself and his funds, but I still don't like his writing off some states. I like Palin's attitude and I respect her all the more for it. She's so less willing to concede.

re: #90 Florida Lady

No you are not. The 0bama campagin itself has stated that 0bama visited his mother and sister in Indonesia and then proceeded from there to India and Pakistan. At the time Pakistan was on the no-go list for American citizens except via special invatation from the embassy and on official business.

Question: Where did he get the money to do this? It's not cheap.

Question: What passport did he use to do it? If he used an Indonesian passport as is likely, this was an act that essentially renounced his American citizenship. It is reasonable to think that he forfeited it when he was adopted by his Indonesian step-father anyway. Indonesia at the time did not recognize dual citizenships. Read Berg's brief on this one. While there are typos in it, it lays this one out pretty well.

re: #254 GreenBear

It's not over ... but if only one boxer is "throwing down," it will be soon. This is not whining by Lizard Nation, it's a call to action that we hope will be heard. If the dems read "their" blogs like kos, it is reasonable to expect that the other side might do a little reading over here.

re: #220 yma o hyd

Are there any others, besides Palin, rooting for McCain? Like Giuliani, Romney ...

I have noticed that too. Dozens of Congressional Dems have joined the Pitbulls for Obama society, but I haven't seen any Rep Senators or Congressmen standing up for McCain and/or attacking Obama. I'm not sure what the problem is. Perhaps they are afraid of being branded as racist as they run their own election campaigns (doesn't explain 2/3 of the Senate Reps). Perhaps, like many American Reps, they have an enthusiasm deficit.
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There have been several articles accusing McCain of being all tactics and no strategy. Ed Rollins says McCain has to start attacking Obama's programs, not his person. I partially agree. McCain's campaign definitely needs to attack Obama's programs (including what he's supported in the past, since there's little traction on his Congressional record), but I don't think you can win an election without explaining to voters what your vision is, where you intend to lead the country (and how you plan to do it, but without going policy wonk). This was the great failure of the Dole campaign.

So far, if McCain has any idea of how to move America forward, he has not explained it successfully or connected with voters.

re: #259 rw in san diego

The only campaign ads I see are the ones on the net. I realize there is a limit to how far a candidate can stretch himself and his funds, but I still don't like his writing off some states. I like Palin's attitude and I respect her all the more for it. She's so less willing to concede.

Writing off some states, like small liberal bastions that he has no chance in hell of winning (Vermont, Delaware, Oregon, etc.) makes sense, but when he walks away from one of the 3 absolutely critical battle states (MI), giving him no margin of error on the other two (OH, PA), then it's clear to me he's not really playing to win. Then when you read a story like this where he wants to play nice while Obama's pet media (who take their marching orders from The One, make no mistake) accuse Palin of wearing a sheet and burning crosses, how can you take it anymore? I can't. I'm done with the pathetic, balless, fucking inept, cowardly GOP. I'll continue to vote for them, but I'm holding my nose now, and they're not getting a cent from me anymore until things change.

HOW THE HELL COULD REV. WRIGHT BE OFF THE TABLE?!?

My sincere apologies for yelling but I had to get that off of my chest. Obama is a thoroughly beatable opponent. In spite of all of the bumper stickers, puff media pieces, and lawn signs he has a number of views and associates which not only don't resonate with the average American voter but scare the living daylights of them.

I swear that McCain could lose a game of monopoly if you gave him every property with a hotel on each to start the game.

He could still win this election but if that happens, and I pray it does, it will be in spite of McCain's campaign and not because of it. If he wins I will be in great spirits for election night. Then I will wake up and realize that McCain is the POTUS. Drastically better scenario than Obama winning. But that will be a very short party for me.

re: #263 buzzsawmonkey

A virus cannot harm anyone if one does not contract it. And one must work at contracting HIV by repeatedly engaging in avoidable behavior.

Silly buzzsaw. You're using logic again. Wright couldn't find the Logic Highway if he had GPS, a hundred meter entry ramp, and a burning bush.

DOW now down 562, S&P down 65, gold up $33

Good time to make my IRA contrib for the year, or should I wait to see how low low can go?