the guy with the monkey looked creepy

The media can't find any bad behavior for Barry. No surprises there.

It's yet another coordinated left-wing/MSM meme campaign.

I'm quite positive there are bozos and jerks on all sides. The hatred against Palin and McCain is palpable. But it doesn't fit this week's aggeed-upon "message," so it is ignored.

Obama's "race" is irrelevant.

Many other things are. Here's one:

Obama is not a credible Commander in Chief.

As CinC during peacetime, Obama would have access to all our nation's secrets, secrets that allow ballistic missile defenses to work, that allow our subs to patrol the ocean undetected, secrets that allow SEALS, Delta, Rangers, and Air Force Special Ops to operate clandestinely, secrets that allow Aegis to control and dominate the battle space around our carrier strike groups, secrets associated with nuclear propulsion plant technology and weapons development, secrets associated with how we fight in cyberspace and assure that information can flow to decision makers.

All of these secrets are what allow the US to maintain the credibility it needs to defend our freedoms and those of our allies and coalition partners.

What kind of security clearance would Obama get right now, based on his background?

At most, the lowest.

This concern doesn't just rest with Commanders, Captains, and Colonels but with Admirals, Generals, and Senior Executive Service personnel.

Again: right now, today, not only is Obama not a credible CinC, he's a security risk.

They can't find any ACORNs, either. Or Fannie and Freddie footsie. Or terrorist ties.

I'm not sure what they can find. I imagine they know what size shoe Gov. Palin wore in fourth grade by now, though.

I wonder how many of these people are actually mobys.

And with this facepalming moment, I'm gonna head to bed before it becomes tomorrow. G'night!

Get used to it. The MSM is scouring M/P rallies looking for the kook fringe.

What about the vandalism against houses where McCain/Palin signs are erected?!

So, how is it possible that the media ignores the crass Palin is a $#@! crap worn at rallies, the vandalism across the nation of GOP offices, GOP signs, etc.

All the anger and frustration is on the right? Hardly. There's plenty of anger on the left - and it's the deranged variety. Let's not forget who's busy pushing assassination fantasies of President Bush for 8 years; and who now peddle assassination fantasies of Obama. It's the left. The far Left. But apparently that's not nearly as newsworthy as lone wackos who are called out by the McCain campaign for their nonsensical ravings.

re: #9 Cartman

Get used to it. The MSM is scouring M/P rallies looking for the kook fringe.

We will need you to exercise your authori-tie.

I don't give a flip what color Obama is. As far as I'm concerned, he's red.

/as in commie

And now Powerline's Paul Mirengoff is being hoodwinked into supporting the Vlaams Belang.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

re: #10 MandyManners

What about the vandalism against houses where McCain/Palin signs are erected?!

Yawn.

/msm

I'd be willing to wager this exact theme (Republicans are hate-mongers) was dreamt up at least two years ago. The whole schedule was timed to have it be unrolled with three weeks to go.

There will be another meme next week. And then more and more.

Loan Stinky Beaumont to he McCain Campaign.

re: #14 Charles

And now Powerline's Paul Mirengoff is being hoodwinked into supporting the Vlaams Belang.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

Sounds like some deprogramming is in order.

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

I don't give a flip what color Obama is. As far as I'm concerned, he's red.

/as in commie

more like pinko red to me

re: #6 OldLineTexan

They can't find any ACORNs, either. Or Fannie and Freddie footsie. Or terrorist ties.

I'm not sure what they can find. I imagine they know what size shoe Gov. Palin wore in fourth grade by now, though.

Even a blind pig can find an acorn once in a while.

I am going to every mainstream media outlet that I can thing of and posting something something similar to the following....won't you help me take a stand on this?

I demand a balanced approach from your newscasts. Please see this link if your journalistic team needs help in being balanced:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/crush-the-oba media-narrative-look-whos-gripped-by-insane-rage/

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

I don't give a flip what color Obama is. As far as I'm concerned, he's red.

/as in commie

Vote Commie for (Barack's) Mommy!

/raise up a child in the way that he should (not) go, and when he is old he will not depart from it

re: #14 Charles

And to think I trusted Powerline to be right-minded.

re: #14 Charles

And now Powerline's Paul Mirengoff is being hoodwinked into supporting the Vlaams Belang.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

Sharmuta was hard at work here this morning on just that very subject.

You mean it wrong to yell out barack HUSSEIN obama? That doesn't move the debate forward?

How about yelling out Obama's a commie nutjob? Would that help?

I thought not. With that, I go, stay sane lizards.

re: #12 OldLineTexan

Ah, but I am just a tiny cog within the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Machine. ;)

The mainstream media can’t seem to find any cases in which Obama supporters are behaving badly...

Cafepress is selling "Sarah Palin is a C*nt" T-shirts...as well as T-shirts that portray Palin as a Soviet dictator.

It is douche bags like these people that make the rest of us look bad. They're obviously too stupid to realize that they are not helping McCain and Palin at all. Unless of course they are left-wingers and their intention is to draw attention to "all those kooks who support Palin and McCain".

re: #20 MandyManners

Heh. That's the line I was looking for!

/we would have also accepted "squirrel"
//but for this campaign, "pig" is worth more points

re: #19 phoenixgirl

more like pinko red to me

Deep hard core Marxist Red. Every significant figure in BHO's history from mom to Ayers is that color.

Can the McCain Campaign Walk and Chew Gum at the Same Time?

re: #26 Cartman

Ah, but I am just a tiny cog within the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Machine. ;)

The MSM expects us to build this beat-down one nightstick at a time.

re: #21 CoCo

That rogues' gallery from Malkin would make an awesome web ad.

And a nearly complete pass on calling Palin the C-word.....

Stay classy libs, stay classy....

I can't help thinking some of these are planted to cause havoc... that older woman saying to McCain that Obama is an "Arab" threw him for a loop. He just didn't know how to respond.

Check out the guy with the monkey before the MSM cameras focused on him....
Racist Obama Monkey at Palin Rally

He seems quite proud of himself.

re: #30 jcm

Deep hard core Marxist Red. Every significant figure in BHO's history from mom to Ayers is that color.

The problem is we have lost our fear of communism. Our youth do not know the evil of the ideology.

re: #33 doppelganglander

Well then, I guess we'll need to do it....someone with that sort of talent needs to be all over it! Anyone?

Well, what about Obama spend some money on people monitoring his own website:

From Ace:

[Link: 74.125.113.104...]

The C*** t-shirts were on his own website ..... of course scrubbed now since it was found out ..... all that money and he cannot monitor his own website ....

People at McCain rallys have shown no class at times ....... The candidate for president has control over his own website .....

re: #16 zombie

I'd be willing to wager this exact theme (Republicans are hate-mongers) was dreamt up at least two years ago. The whole schedule was timed to have it be unrolled with three weeks to go.

There will be another meme next week. And then more and more.

Ha -- you're joking, right?

I know you've been around enough to know this sort of junk is borne of three elements:

1) A general predisposition toward leftist positions,
2) a herd mentality, and
3) admitted actual facts -- like the monkey-toting moron above.

There's no grand conspiracy, Zombie.

re: #16 zombie

I'd be willing to wager this exact theme (Republicans are hate-mongers) was dreamt up at least two years ago. The whole schedule was timed to have it be unrolled with three weeks to go.

There will be another meme next week. And then more and more.

Zombie. This is my comment from previous thread. I agree with you 110%

A couple of months ago I posted a comment about a fake "ticket" or citation being issued to a McCain supporter. The supporter went into the democratic headquarters (located next door to my business) and she handed a couple of people McCain bumper stickers. It was probably not the best idea (she is young, white and passionate about this election) but she did not break any laws and did not get ugly or harm anyone. A gentleman (he was black) followed her to her car and gave her a ticket with a fine of $75. She asked the gentleman "where should I pay this?" and he said "you can pay it to my face" and she just laughed and walked away. She gave the ticket to an uncle who is in the Rep. party and he said he would take care of it. I was told by a police officer the gentleman issuing the ticket should have been questioned about this and he just fell short of impersonating an officer.

Think about this:
- They had these tickets PRINTED. They were prepared.
- They are writing frivolous tickets with a fine attached.
- The tickets have no legal standing.
- ACORN fraud is rampant.

I believe they are logging as many "incidences" as possible to counter any claims made by Republicans about voter registration fraud. They are also preparing for an Obama loss by gathering specific numbers of "incidences" like the one described above, to make it a race issue. These were carbon copied citations. They had these prepared. They were expecting this shit. Watch for specific numbers from the Obama campaign.
Makes me think about this saying "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" Organized idiots are dangerous.

re: #35 Claudia

I can't help thinking some of these are planted to cause havoc... that older woman saying to McCain that Obama is an "Arab" threw him for a loop. He just didn't know how to respond.

Grandma Moby!

re: #27 Ringo the Gringo

Cafepress is selling "Sarah Palin is a C*nt" T-shirts...as well as T-shirts that portray Palin as a Soviet dictator.

The Soviet Palin shirt is more interesting.

Mostly for the way it illustrates the utter Bizarro World mentality of its designer.

Gov. Palin is NOT the Marxist running in this election. Even the CPUSA candidate is not the Marxist running in this election.

It amazes me that the left finds Sarah Palin, governor of a state so unqualified to be vice president or, G-d forbid, president and has no qualms about Obama. I'm getting emails from people in my family directing me to a poll about the qualifications of Palin. I was happy to oblige, even though the message was meant for fellow Obama supporters. They're afraid the site is being swarmed by the right. Vote if you wish.

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

"Iron My Shirt" is infinitely more offensive than "C*nt."

re: #27 Ringo the Gringo

Cafepress is selling "Sarah Palin is a C*nt" T-shirts...as well as T-shirts that portray Palin as a Soviet dictator.

That is not behaving badly, that is just expressing free speech.

///

re: #1 phoenixgirl

the guy with the monkey looked creepy

Creepy indeed!

Stinky would rightly have something to say if I posted the things running through my head.

/and I can't even allude to them HERE!

What about those T-shirts with the "C" word about Gov. Palin?!

re: #40 Cognito

Ha -- you're joking, right?

I know you've been around enough to know this sort of junk is borne of three elements:

1) A general predisposition toward leftist positions,
2) a herd mentality, and
3) admitted actual facts -- like the monkey-toting moron above.

There's no grand conspiracy, Zombie.

Probably no grand conspiracy, but maybe just some enterprising local moonbats. As for ones who are genuine, they've been reading too many forwarded emails.

re: #40 Cognito

I am not sure there is a conspiracy, more of a lemming like movement in my mind.

Trusty Lizards beat me to it.

Holy [expletive deleted], did John McCain just awaken from his electoral slumber and hit a grand slam?

/I was loosely napping, but what I heard of that speech was nothing less than amazing!

re: #45 rw in san diego

It amazes me that the left finds Sarah Palin, governor of a state so unqualified to be vice president or, G-d forbid, president and has no qualms about Obama. I'm getting emails from people in my family directing me to a poll about the qualifications of Palin. I was happy to oblige, even though the message was meant for fellow Obama supporters. They're afraid the site is being swarmed by the right. Vote if you wish.

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

Tied, 49-49.

Vote!

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Check out the guy with the monkey before the MSM cameras focused on him....
Racist Obama Monkey at Palin Rally

He seems quite proud of himself.

Ah, who cares? The site says I can meet hot chicks in my area. Now that's important.

re: #48 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Creepy indeed!

Stinky would rightly have something to say if I posted the things running through my head.

/and I can't even allude to them HERE!

my first thought was he was a ped

re: #35 Claudia

I can't help thinking some of these are planted to cause havoc... that older woman saying to McCain that Obama is an "Arab" threw him for a loop.

She's a Republican and a volunteer for the McCain campaign....
McCain Responds to "Arab" Epithet at Rally: "Obama a Decent Family Man"
Scroll down for her interview.

re: #51 coquimbojoe

I am not sure there is a conspiracy, more of a lemming like movement in my mind.

Doesn't that give you a head-ache?

re: #45 rw in san diego

its tied at 49 each flood the site lizards

re: #37 coquimbojoe

The problem is we have lost our fear of communism. Our youth do not know the evil of the ideology.

From their experiences and what they are taught by their teachers and professors steeped in Marxist ideology it is something to be desired fervently.

re: #37 coquimbojoe

The problem is we have lost our fear of communism. Our youth do not know the evil of the ideology.

The Zinn / Chompsky / triumvirate has succeeded in penetrating our educational system. Between moral relativism, and espousing "fairness" we lost the view of what communism costs, in the souls of the living, and lives of the dead.

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Check out the guy with the monkey before the MSM cameras focused on him....
Racist Obama Monkey at Palin Rally

He seems quite proud of himself.

OK, do we have to flagellate ourselves to atone for his sin against The One, or would plain mortification work?

Shall we hire beadles to whack the irreverent on the head during church services political rallies?

Most important, do the Dems have to beat all their fringe kooks into line? I need to know, because I will have my broker get heavy into lumber futures...especially black walnut and other fine club materials.

re: #36 Killgore Trout

What an asshole. Sheesh. That sure advances the debate, doesn't it.

Who do the actions of one man get coverage in the mainstream news? Makes no sense. There are hate-fueled anti-Palin maniacs covering the landscape around here. Does each one merit their own news article?

re: #53 Killian Bundy

Holy [expletive deleted], did John McCain just awaken from his electoral slumber and hit a grand slam?

/I was loosely napping, but what I heard of that speech was nothing less than amazing!

Now if he could just perform like that during the debates. I think the whole "Senate collegiality" thing overcomes him during those.

/the club

re: #58 MandyManners

Doesn't that give you a head-ache?

Heh.

Heh. One of the things that drove me from being a Liberal to a Conservative was the rhetoric used by each group. The Left's hateful shrieking, and then its projection of this onto the Right is just insane. The Right is generally more respectful of its opposition.

re: #61 jcm

The Zinn / Chompsky / triumvirate has succeeded in penetrating our educational system. Between moral relativism, and espousing "fairness" we lost the view of what communism costs, in the souls of the living, and lives of the dead.

PIMF
Zinn / Chompsky / Ayers

re: #14 Charles

And now Powerline's Paul Mirengoff is being hoodwinked into supporting the Vlaams Belang.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

The story sounds like the Weimar Republic all over again.
*creepy tingling up my spine*

re: #46 Ben Hur

Not to me.
Actually, the iron my shirt one made me laugh.

re: #45 rw in san diego

Ya know... I've been seeing that poll for a couple of weeks now... been stuck at exactly 49% each the whole time.

I'm starting to think it is a fake.

Agenda driven news.

Hundreds of Economists Sign Letter Opposing Obama's Tax Plan
I suspect we would be hearing about his is the economists were praising Obama's tax schemes.

re: #64 zombie

Of course.

Media types are mainly Democrats.

re: #62 OldLineTexan

OK, do we have to flagellate ourselves to atone for his sin against The One, or would plain mortification work?

No need. Blame it on Obama plants. Excuse it by pointing out the bad behaviour of others. Carry on as usual. It's working out great so far.
/

re: #64 zombie

Who do the actions of one man get coverage in the mainstream news? Makes no sense. There are hate-fueled anti-Palin maniacs covering the landscape around here. Does each one merit their own news article?

Substitute the word "Palin" with "Obama", and yes.

re: #57 Killgore Trout

With "all due respect", you seem as eager to point this stuff out as the MSM does. I'm not implying anything here. It's just an observation.

re: #68 jcm

Wondered about your definition of a triumvirate, but figured you were talking above my level.

re: #14 Charles

And now Powerline's Paul Mirengoff is being hoodwinked into supporting the Vlaams Belang.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

A shame. They've managed to hoodwink people in spite of our warning about the VB and people like Fjordman.

What liberal media bias?

re: #57 Killgore Trout

She's a Republican and a volunteer for the McCain campaign....
McCain Responds to "Arab" Epithet at Rally: "Obama a Decent Family Man"
Scroll down for her interview.

One of those readers of too many forwarded emails I mentioned in my #50. I've had to steer my MiL away from those.

re: #16 zombie

I'd be willing to wager this exact theme (Republicans are hate-mongers) was dreamt up at least two years ago. The whole schedule was timed to have it be unrolled with three weeks to go.

There will be another meme next week. And then more and more.

I think the odds are very good that you're right. It fits with the S.O.P. of the Alinsky Machine.

Bobby May's not too smart.

re: #65 Ward Cleaver

Now if he could just perform like that during the debates.

Victory is easily within reach.

/today's speech was definitely fire in the belly

re: #76 Cartman

With "all due respect", you seem as eager to point this stuff out as the MSM does. I'm not implying anything here. It's just an observation.

No offense taken, of course I'm eager to point this stuff out. Why shouldn't I be?

re: #40 Cognito

Ha -- you're joking, right?

I know you've been around enough to know this sort of junk is borne of three elements:

1) A general predisposition toward leftist positions,
2) a herd mentality, and
3) admitted actual facts -- like the monkey-toting moron above.

There's no grand conspiracy, Zombie.

You are quite wrong. There isn't a "conspiracy," but there is a campaign schedule, and the Democrats have had a looonnggg time to think about this.

One can always find an example of just about anything happening somewhere in the country at one time or another. It all depends on what you want to focus on. They could have uncorked the "Republican voters are racist morons" story six months ago, or three months ago, or whenever, and supplied examples too. But it is essential to uncork it right now, as their timeline indicates. The key is to embarrass voters who are pondering voting for McCain.

re: #71 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I don't know anything about it, but it's on the PBS website. Do you think they shut it down when it wasn't going the way they anticipated?

McCain Vows to 'Whip' Obama's 'You Know What' in Final DebateYour text to link...

Prepare yourself.

Old man + whip + black man = phony outrage.

Equation of defeat.

re: #77 coquimbojoe

Wondered about your definition of a triumvirate, but figured you were talking above my level.

Can't type, can't count, i r an engeineer!

re: #56 phoenixgirl

my first thought was he was a ped

I'm certain that Stinky wants to hear that you (AND I) mean a functional part of a bicycle.

re: #74 Killgore Trout

No need. Blame it on Obama plants. Excuse it by pointing out the bad behaviour of others. Carry on as usual. It's working out great so far.
/

You misunderstand me. I have no doubt that almost all of the idjits are REAL, not Obama plants. And having raised children, I do NOT accept "But Bobby did it first".

HOWEVER, it is disturbing how in the bag the media is for this stuff. As many have pointed out, you can do whatever you want to Gov. Palin, and you will not receive this amount of coverage.

But hey, go back to sleep on that, right?

re: #17 jcm

I think we need to loan 'em the Troll Hammer, Stinky's services, and a backbone to stand up to all of Obama's supporters attacking everything he says as criticism of Obama as racism.

re: #59 Erik The Red

What kind of stupid poll was that? It only let me vote once.

I am feeling disenfranchised.

re: #77 coquimbojoe

Wondered about your definition of a triumvirate, but figured you were talking above my level pay grade.

The nutbags showing up at McCain rallies are going to turn out to be Obama supporters. Watch and learn...

Perhaps they just dont think Liberals behaving like fucking idiots is news-worthy. Its just to be expected.

/

re: #69 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The story sounds like the Weimar Republic all over again.
*creepy tingling up my spine*

With the current economic troubles in Europe, I sincerely hope they do not make any attempt to repeat history.

re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What kind of stupid poll was that? It only let me vote once.

I am feeling disenfranchised.

Call ACORN!

re: #76 Cartman

I think KT is aiming for the truth and that's what every concerned voter should be seeking. Of course there are fools on the right as well as the left and to deny or ignore that is just silly.

Kaixo!

One thing we do not need-idiotic McCain-Palin supporters providing fodder for the leftist Obama-supporting MSM in the form of racially insensitive or potentially offensive demonstrations. I know-when Sarah Palin wears a white dress or suit she is derided as if she were wearing a white sheet with a pointed hat, and when John McCain refers to Obama as "that one" he is accused of overt racism-unfortunately any criticism of B. Obama is immediately portrayed by the leftist moonbats as tantamount to a lynch-mob mentality. Any criticism of "The One" is, in the eyes of the Obama camp, racism. And that's the way it is. It looks like we are in for a gut-wrenching four years of galloping socialism if, as seems more and more likely, Obama and his radical left supporters seize power next month.

Gero arte!

Well, I desperately need to get some stuff done around here.
Place nice - catch you all later.

re: #14 Charles

And now Powerline's Paul Mirengoff is being hoodwinked into supporting the Vlaams Belang.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

Charles, are you working on Mirengoff?

re: #90 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm certain that Stinky wants to hear that you (AND I) mean a functional part of a bicycle.

yes of course

re: #91 OldLineTexan

HOWEVER, it is disturbing how in the bag the media is for this stuff. As many have pointed out, you can do whatever you want to Gov. Palin, and you will not receive this amount of coverage.

Of course the media is biased. There's a double standard and we have to live with that. Complaining about it accomplishes nothing. We have to keep our proverbial house extra clean.

re: #98 MandyManners

Call ACORN!

Don't ACORN is worse to get rid of than Beetlejuice.

re: #86 rw in san diego

I don't know anything about it, but it's on the PBS website. Do you think they shut it down when it wasn't going the way they anticipated?

Someone here first mentioned it weeks ago, shortly after Palin was nominated. I voted, and at that time it was 70-30 pro-Palin. I'm sure the Kossacks et al. spammed it, and it was running heavily anti-Palin for a while. I'd guess 49-49 is a pretty close approximation of real-world opinion.

re: #95 HBob

The nutbags showing up at McCain rallies are going to turn out to be Obama supporters. Watch and learn...

Well, some of them anyway.

The People's Republic of Google is celebrating Columbus Day with a logo commemorating the 50th Anniversary of Paddington Bear.

Google has done the only thing worse that doing nothing - Celebrating something so insignificant instead of Columbus Day.

I'm boycotting Google today.

re: #89 jcm

Can't type, can't count, i r an engeineer!

I got you beat, i r a salesguy! ;-)

re: #85 zombie

The key is to embarrass voters who are pondering voting for McCain.

And to demoralize, and demonize...we are held responsible for each and every lunatic who calls him/herself a republican. No other groups are thus burdened.

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Of course the media is biased. There's a double standard and we have to live with that. Complaining about it accomplishes nothing. We have to keep our proverbial house extra clean.

Republicans always have two opponents - the Democrats and the MSM.

re: #84 Killgore Trout

No offense taken, of course I'm eager to point this stuff out. Why shouldn't I be?

I'm not sure how it's constructive. I don't think there's any way to prevent this crap. There are a lot of idiots out there, on both sides of the aisle. In my mind, bolstering the exposure to these incidents just enhances the MSM's cherry-picking strategy.

re: #108 Priebles

The People's Republic of Google is celebrating Columbus Day with a logo commemorating the 50th Anniversary of Paddington Bear.

Google has done the only thing worse that doing nothing - Celebrating something so insignificant instead of Columbus Day.

I'm boycotting Google today.

I boycott them every day.

re: #99 rw in san diego

I take it as a compliment. In fact I think I'm tougher on my fellow lizards than I am the Koskidz. It's the way it should be.

re: #111 Ward Cleaver

Republicans always have two opponents - the Democrats and the MSM.

well three, themselves

re: #10 MandyManners

What about the vandalism against houses where McCain/Palin signs are erected?!

Like mine. Ok , it was just my sign that was stolen, still.......
,

re: #108 Priebles

The People's Republic of Google is celebrating Columbus Day with a logo commemorating the 50th Anniversary of Paddington Bear.

Google has done the only thing worse that doing nothing - Celebrating something so insignificant instead of Columbus Day.

I'm boycotting Google today.

Yeah, let's all celebrate a land stealing, genocidal conquerer!
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Coming out of lurkdom to say that this morning I had a read response of not read from an email I sent to a show on the only cable news channel I watch. My email had been sent in regard to a comment I heard on a show. I can't believe that it was deleted without being read a week after I sent it and that I won't even receive a canned response. If they are getting as bad as MSM, what can be done?

re: #111 Ward Cleaver

Republicans always have two opponents - the Democrats and the MSM.

Three. You forgot Republicans themselves.

re: #35 Claudia

I can't help thinking some of these are planted to cause havoc... that older woman saying to McCain that Obama is an "Arab" threw him for a loop. He just didn't know how to respond.

He should have said" No! ...He's an American ,Which is more frightening"!

[Link: www.bushorchimp.com...]
[Link: www.uncuriousgeorge.org...]
[Link: www.smirkingchimp.com...]
Bush was also represented as curious george.
[Link: www.zazzle.com...]

re: #115 phoenixgirl

well three, themselves

Dammit, gmta.

re: #115 phoenixgirl

well three, themselves

At least in the case of RINOs like McCain.

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Thanks... that's even worse.

re: #109 coquimbojoe

I got you beat, i r a salesguy! ;-)

Sales:
The only people in the world who can chart a trend line up and to the right with one data point!

re: #114 Killgore Trout

I take it as a compliment. In fact I think I'm tougher on my fellow lizards than I am the Koskidz. It's the way it should be.

Just like McCain is tougher on fellow Republicans than on Democrats? How's that working out for us?

re: #100 EuskalHerria

when Sarah Palin wears a white dress or suit she is derided as if she were wearing a white sheet with a pointed hat

Now, I've heard it all!

La Pequeña Hillary Hulk

re: #127 taxfreekiller

So, can you have you computer adm, staff to block Google total from a company net work?

Sure you can.

re: #118 Penguinchic

Coming out of lurkdom to say that this morning I had a read response of not read from an email I sent to a show on the only cable news channel I watch. My email had been sent in regard to a comment I heard on a show. I can't believe that it was deleted without being read a week after I sent it and that I won't even receive a canned response. If they are getting as bad as MSM, what can be done?

I got yer 'penguin chic' right here. No, really, check out my avatar.

re: #119 coquimbojoe

Three. You forgot Republicans themselves.

Or as Levin says...
Re-pubi-cans.

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Of course the media is biased. There's a double standard and we have to live with that. Complaining about it accomplishes nothing. We have to keep our proverbial house extra clean.

Fine. Mostly agreed.

Pointing out media complicity is absolutely necessary.

Now, do we "stage" all comments at political events (like the rows of color-coordinated folks in the tiered seats in camera view), or do we have to run a background check/gagged and bagged line at every public event? Because I have frankly never been to a public event with the EXCEPTION of a Ronald Reagan speech at Johnson Space Center (come to think of it, not really public) that was conducted without a pro- or con- heckler.

re: #126 jcm

Sales:
The only people in the world who can chart a trend line up and to the right with one data point!

Engineers...the only people in the world who believe that a product sells itself.

re: #14 Charles

And now Powerline's Paul Mirengoff is being hoodwinked into supporting the Vlaams Belang.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

I don't know if you heard McCain's speech today but as soon as the video becomes available, you should post it.

/it was historic

I'm wondering after the election regardless who wins or loses, How will we repair, the horrible atmosphere caused by Obama campaign, inciting Americans against American

re: #126 jcm

Sales:
The only people in the world who can chart a trend line up and to the right with one data point!

That's because there is a daily two drink minimum before the day starts off! And our graphing wizardry is a problem how?

re: #128 doppelganglander

Just like McCain is tougher on fellow Republicans than on Democrats? How's that working out for us?

And the whole "corruption and greed on Wall Street" meme. Even Sarah spouts that.

re: #108 Priebles

The People's Republic of Google is celebrating Columbus Day with a logo commemorating the 50th Anniversary of Paddington Bear.

Google has done the only thing worse that doing nothing - Celebrating something so insignificant instead of Columbus Day.

I'm boycotting Google today.

That's not the worst thing they could have done -- the worst thing they could have done is to celebrate Indigenous People's Day (as is celebrated in various left-wing cities on Columbus Day), in which Columbus is portrayed as a genocidal imperialist demon.

One must keep in mind that many people on the Left do not consider it hateful to be hateful towards Republicans. In fact, they consider it to be the only decent way to feel.

In their minds Republicans are mean, nasty, racists, and hating mean nasty racists is a good thing.

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Engineers...the only people in the world who believe that a product sells itself.

No reason why it shouldn't, if it's good enough.

re: #122 willowone

[Link: www.bushorchimp.com...]
[Link: www.uncuriousgeorge.org...]
[Link: www.smirkingchimp.com...]
Bush was also represented as curious george.
[Link: www.zazzle.com...]

Moral of the story?

It's ok to call George Bush a monkey.
It's not ok to call Obama a monkey.

But, Columbus never really went to Ohio?

re: #133 jcm

Or as Levin says...
Re-pubi-cans.

Probably the only thing I don't like about Mark's show. That term is kinda gross, if ya ask me.

re: #137 willowone

I'm wondering after the election regardless who wins or loses, How will we repair, the horrible atmosphere caused by Obama campaign, inciting Americans against American

The left is going to have to get tired of being angry and hating everyone first.

re: #144 FrogMarch

I'm sad about it all. I'll get over it.

re: #143 Honorary Yooper

There's always a salesperson somewhere in the economic chain.

The real question is, why isn't he up by 30 points?

re: #145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, Columbus never really went to Ohio?

Nor, did he, ever go to Columbia or Colombia.

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Engineers...the only people in the world who believe that a product sells itself.

If every one say the self evident elegance of the product it would.
Not our problem people can't see it!
//

re: #67 Pyrocles

Overall, I tend to agree with you. I'm old enough to remember the exchanges between Bill Buckley and his guests on Firing Line (well, perhaps with the exception of Gore Vidal).

The discussions between Buckley and John Kenneth Galbraith always made clear the political and economic differences between them. What many people didn't know was that Buckley and Galbraith were great friends, and their families had vacation homes next to, or near, each other in Switzerland (I believe).

Oh, yes, and I always picked up a new vocabulary word or two. :-)

Solid differences of opinion, debated in a gentlemanly fashion, would be nice for a change - on both sides.

re: #137 willowone

Well, if its up to them, they'll fix it by "re-educating" us.

re: #141 zombie

That's not the worst thing they could have done -- the worst thing they could have done is to celebrate Indigenous People's Day (as is celebrated in various left-wing cities on Columbus Day), in which Columbus is portrayed as a genocidal imperialist demon.

Then Paddington Bear day is like voting 'present'?

re: #97 Honorary Yooper

With the current economic troubles in Europe, I sincerely hope they do not make any attempt to repeat history.

Europe's economy and political scene today is absolutely NOT comparable to that of the Wiemar Republic. Wiemar was a disaster, with inflation comparable to Zimbabwe's.

re: #147 coquimbojoe
yes

re: #147 coquimbojoe

The left is going to have to get tired of being angry and hating everyone first.

Ain't gonna happen. They have the most amazing recreational pharmaceuticals to keep going.

re: #145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, Columbus never really went to Ohio?

Would you if you could avoid it?

re: #138 coquimbojoe

That's because there is a daily two drink minimum before the day starts off! And our graphing wizardry is a problem how?

Only two? Tough gig you got going.

re: #137 willowone

I'm wondering after the election regardless who wins or loses, How will we repair, the horrible atmosphere caused by Obama campaign, inciting Americans against American

According to the MSM and the Leftoids that is, and has always been, the fault of those on the Right. Only the Right hate, only the Right discriminate, only the Right want to censor. The Left is always correct.

re: #155 coquimbojoe

Then Paddington Bear day is like voting 'present'?

Yes. Good analogy.

re: #85 zombie

YThey could have uncorked the "Republican voters are racist morons" story six months ago, or three months ago, or whenever, and supplied examples too. But it is essential to uncork it right now, as their timeline indicates. The key is to embarrass voters who are pondering voting for McCain.

"They"?

Come on. Do you honestly think evil media honchos get together in smoke-filled back rooms and coordinate their coverage years in advance? Rather than scrambling at the last second to keep up with their competitors and generally stumbling to the left along the way?

If so, there are people with info about Building 7 you might find credible.

re: #152 jcm

Damn. You spell like an engineer too!

re: #120 reloadingisnotahobby

I thought that MsCain's response "No, he's a respectable family man..." or whatever he said... was so weird! What.?.. either Arab or a family man? It was definitely a missed opportunity on McCain's part to point out all the correct reasons to fear giving Obama the power.

re: #137 willowone

I'm wondering after the election regardless who wins or loses, How will we repair, the horrible atmosphere caused by Obama campaign, inciting Americans against American

I think that will depend on Obama's supporters, not McCain's supporters.

For those of you who didn't see this yesterday at The Anchoress:

The Middle Finger

There's a video. Check out just how tolerant Obama's supporters are of the McCain/Palin supporters marching in Manhattan.

re: #127 taxfreekiller

I don't see why Google can't be blocked at the network level.
I'm just using personal restraint today and not contributing page views or searches. Who knows - maybe I'll get hooked on yahoo or Live Search and never go back.

re: #112 Cartman

I don't think there's any way to prevent this crap.

Sure there is. Watch the video I posted at #36. He's very proud of that monkey and waving it around like an idiot. The LLL protesters were chanting "racist" at him but he didn't care. It only encouraged him. If his fellow McCain supporters standing in line had joined the racist chant and pushed him out of line the whole incident would have been avoided. Same with the lady in red I posted upthread. She's a volunteer for the campaign and her fellow volunteers should have corrected her faulty racist opinions long ago. Failing that someone in the campaign should have stopped her taking the microphone and spouting racist shit on national television.

We have to accept responsibility for this stuff and not pass the buck or make excuses for it. It's our fault that this stuff goes on and we can't blame the press for pointing it out.

re: #154 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Well, if its up to them, they'll fix it by "re-educating" us.

"shudder" at this point i actually think it's possible. (sorta) how's that for being glum.

re: #160 Ford_Prefect

Would you if you could avoid it?

Now, that's a helluva point.

Sarah Palin Drops Puck At Flyers Home Opener

/top that Ol' Plugs!

re: #156 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Europe's economy and political scene today is absolutely NOT comparable to that of the Wiemar Republic. Wiemar was a disaster, with inflation comparable to Zimbabwe's.

I know that. You know that. However, fear is a powerful thing, and the media trades in fear-mongering. If you'd have heard the reports last week, you'd have thought the world was going to end, and we are in a recession*.

*Never mind we aren't in a recession as that takes two quarters of negative growth.

re: #161 jcm

Only two? Tough gig you got going.

Well drinking is against my religion, so two is the compromise number allowed for sales people...

re: #147 coquimbojoe

The left is going to have to get tired of being angry and hating everyone first.

The hate has been going at industrial strength for 8 years now and has shown no signs of waning. With each passing week it seems to only gather virulence.

Well, that's the official Columbus, as portrayed in all media and educational institutions these days. From now on, Columbus is nothing but the quintessential "Western white oppressor".

re: #141 zombie

That's not the worst thing they could have done -- the worst thing they could have done is to celebrate Indigenous People's Day (as is celebrated in various left-wing cities on Columbus Day), in which Columbus is portrayed as a genocidal imperialist demon.

re: #162 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have no idea what the MSM sees as benificial in Their behavior? plenty of news clips for next 8 years> job secuirity?
they can't see many journaists are being threatened Rep or Dem for saying anything about Obama and his shady past?
Is that what they really want?

test, please ignore

re: #174 coquimbojoe

Well drinking is against my religion, so two is the compromise number allowed for sales people...

LOL!

I have photos of the Kids For Obama March although most of it was innocent Obama worship a few anti Palin and McCain messages could be found.
The "Nope" sticker was a big one
And a little misprint on a bumpersticker
and a few of the kids learned from their parents.
And on the bathroom wall. No telling how long it's been there.

re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There's always a salesperson somewhere in the economic chain.

If it wasn't for salesmen,We'd still be sitting a round a fire in loin
clothes ,gnawing on bones and scratching or asses with a stick!

re: #176 Pyrocles

Well, that's the official Columbus, as portrayed in all media and educational institutions these days. From now on, Columbus is nothing but the quintessential "Western white oppressor".

and dont forget, he was only able to do it since he had Muslim navigators, according to CAIR

Politics is always played dirty- you can read up on how Lincoln's opponents threw the book of smears at him - calling him an ape (and depicting him as such or worse), so it's a good idea to keep the following in mind:

Ugly political rhetoric versus unlawful political rhetoric. The problem even there is that the media has turned a blind eye to the hateful and unlawful political rhetoric for the last eight years emanating from the left because they wouldn't mind seeing the Bush Administration go by the boards. The left trots this stuff out claiming that the McCain campaign is proffering hatred and unlawful activities, even as their own spew this garbage on a daily basis.

Both sides of the aisle should do a better job of policing the hate, but the left has been promoting it for so long and it is so deeply ingrained in their political DNA that they can't separate the two. Now, we get cries of racism any time anyone criticizes their chosen candidate. How exactly can you get a political discussion when one side automagically claims racism? It's a no win situation that has gotten all too many GOPers down because they've been fighting this far too long, but the problem is that if they don't continue fighting these smears, they wont be in a position to do so going forward (or at best wont have the numbers to sustain a solid opposition going forward).

don't forget the 106 year old catholic nun voting for hussein because he's honest!

re: #172 Killian Bundy

Sarah Palin Drops Puck At Flyers Home Opener

/top that Ol' Plugs!

Maybe they will let him drop the ball at the first World Series game. He's done it everywhere else.

OT ----- But polls today show McCain and Obambi within 5%. With all of the negativity and the full frontal assault by the MSM. I like McCain's chances. The ole fighter pilot may know what he's doing. Keep on Keepin on.

Zogby McCain 44% - Obambi 48%
Rassmussen McCain 45% - Obama 50%

re: #167 reine.de.tout
i saw that, shameful isn't it.
and in seriousness they are turning friend against friend with this tactic.

re: #179 Zonie

test, please ignore

I tried that in school. Didn't get very good grades in school.

re: #140 taxfreekiller

Google also happens to own blogger, adsense, and if they had their way - yahoo... /point of information

If Columbus discovered us today, he would shake his head in confusion and go back home.

Angry McCain/Palin supporters... Yes, we are angry... Angry that the American public is ready and willing to elect a man to the highest office in the land who does not mind hanging with unrepentant terrorists, who has attended a racially divisive church for 20 years, has ties deep in the reached of the Chicago political machine, who has questionable stances and programs which are socialisitic... I can go on and on...

All in all, this is not a man qualified to be President, nor is it a man I would be proud of as President. If he wins, as I did with Bill Clinton, I would respect the office but not the man.

re: #164 Cognito

"They"?

Come on. Do you honestly think evil media honchos get together in smoke-filled back rooms and coordinate their coverage years in advance? Rather than scrambling at the last second to keep up with their competitors and generally stumbling to the left along the way?

If so, there are people with info about Building 7 you might find credible.

I'm not saying the media dreams up its coverage years in advance. I'm saying the Democratic Party can and does dream up campaign strategies long in advance, then they on cue put out a massive "meme bomb" to the media all at the same time, and the media compliantly plays along, picks it up and runs with the story. Some of the memes, yes, are improvised on the spot ("Sarah Palin is stupid/has a low IQ), but some are long-standing plans. I have no problem accepting that the Democrats long ago planned a "make people embarrassed to be associated with Republicans" media blitz about 2-3 weeks before election day.

re: #182 reloadingisnotahobby

If it wasn't for salesmen,We'd still be sitting a round a fire in loin
clothes ,gnawing on bones and scratching or asses with a stick!

If it wasn't for the engineer, the salesman wouldn't have anything to sell but loincloths and sticks.

re: #45 rw in san diego

It amazes me that the left finds Sarah Palin, governor of a state so unqualified to be vice president or, G-d forbid, president and has no qualms about Obama. I'm getting emails from people in my family directing me to a poll about the qualifications of Palin. I was happy to oblige, even though the message was meant for fellow Obama supporters. They're afraid the site is being swarmed by the right. Vote if you wish.

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

Yes 49%
No 49%
Not Sure 0%

Your first vote for this poll has been registered. Any subsequent vote will not be counted. This is not a scientific poll.

re: #188 willowone

i saw that, shameful isn't it.
and in seriousness they are turning friend against friend with this tactic.

Shameful indeed.
Friend against friend, and in some cases, I would bet, family member against family member.

re: #173 Honorary Yooper

I know that. You know that. However, fear is a powerful thing, and the media trades in fear-mongering. If you'd have heard the reports last week, you'd have thought the world was going to end, and we are in a recession*.

*Never mind we aren't in a recession as that takes two quarters of negative growth.

*squinting in pain, rubbing the thump-spot on my head*

Yeah, you're right. Perception is everything in lemming-mode.

re: #172 Killian Bundy

Sarah Palin Drops Puck At Flyers Home Opener

/top that Ol' Plugs!

You should have heard the outrage about it on radio here in NY... Sports radio was encouraging fans who might be heading down from NY for it to turn their back on her when she cam on ice...

re: #194 Honorary Yooper

Point taken!
LOL

I'm sorry but the man with the monkey was acting WAY too suspicious. Had it been a Republican he would have kept the sticker on and held it throughout. Anyone who believes this wasn't a plant is pretty dumb if you ask me.

re: #167 reine.de.tout

The old guy towing his wife, head down and steady, like a haywagon behind a tractor...priceless.

re: #187 BigJohn

OT ----- But polls today show McCain and Obambi within 5%. With all of the negativity and the full frontal assault by the MSM. I like McCain's chances. The ole fighter pilot may know what he's doing. Keep on Keepin on.

Zogby McCain 44% - Obambi 48%
Rassmussen McCain 45% - Obama 50%

Thanks for posting that. I keep reminding myself, if Obama can't pull away to a double-digit lead in any poll that includes less than 50% Democrats, he is probably not going to win.

re: #178 willowone

I have no idea what the MSM sees as benificial in Their behavior? plenty of news clips for next 8 years> job secuirity?
they can't see many journaists are being threatened Rep or Dem for saying anything about Obama and his shady past?
Is that what they really want?

Look at the complicity of CNN to provide cover for Saddam Hussein when he was in power in Iraq. Or the idol worship of a genocidal mass murderer that was Arafat.

The benefits the MSM garners is the proximity to power and ideological outlook. The media is going to get power to be the sole influence on Americans once again if the Fairness Doctrine get enacted again.

re: #200 imtoast

I'm sorry but the man with the monkey was acting WAY too suspicious. Had it been a Republican he would have kept the sticker on and held it throughout. Anyone who believes this wasn't a plant is pretty dumb if you ask me.

Precisely.

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Not Proud, Caught redhanded! He knew he was wrong! Guilty in fact! Look at his nervous eyes panning the crowd below him, he knows he has been caught on camera and now has to ditch his evidence into an innocent childs arms after he peels the Obama costume off if it. This man is of no character. It is one thing to have the Chutzpah to stand up and hold on to your convictions (monkey toy), but, he was weak hearted and a coward to throw his toy to a child! SICKO!

re: #198 tfc3rid

You should have heard the outrage about it on radio here in NY... Sports radio was encouraging fans who might be heading down from NY for it to turn their back on her when she cam on ice...

/didn't work, did it?

re: #169 Killgore Trout

I think you're being a little too idealistic. Who is going to police this kind of stuff? You? Me? It's one thing to keep pointing it out on a blog, yet it's quite another to roll up your well-intentioned sleeves and physically root this shit out. While I agree that the monkey idiot never should have made it through the door at that rally, how far do you take it? Ask each attendee who passes a series of questions to determine if they're a racist? Physically restrain or beat down an obviously ignorant old lady? I'm just suggesting that with 3 weeks left in this campaign, our energies are better spent elsewhere.

re: #74 Killgore Trout

To be honest Killgore, I think the thrust of this thread, is to point out the hypocrisy of the media reporting this.

I agree with you, fools should be purged, and made clear to understand where the line of acceptability is drawn.

The problem in a nutshell, is trying to live of to the purity the media has decided to hold one side of the country to. To think somehow, the Republicans won't have idiots attaching themselves to some portion of the platform is ridiculous. They will, and quite frankly, the folks who make up the Republican base are really the only ones who I have ever noticed to rebuke these types of assholes when faced with it. I know I have.

I am more concerned about this inequality resulting in something like what you are seeing manifest in Europe now.

There is an absolute inequality to our "FREE" media when it comes to issues of right versus left. This is a blatant alienation of half of the country, and a concerted effort to manipulate by virtue of the sin of omission.

I am all for clearing the deck.

Asking one side to be responsible, while not even acknowledging the other side has a problem is a massive problem in & of itself.

The Oregon Molotov cocktail story is another outrageous example.

I have recently been getting some email from a group called Free Press, the executive director being one Josh Silver. Their website is freepress.net.

from their website they state:

"Free Press is a national, nonpartisan organization working to reform the media. Through education, organizing and advocacy, we promote diverse and independent media ownership, strong public media, and universal access to communications.

Free Press was launched in late 2002 by media scholar Robert W. McChesney, journalist John Nichols and Josh Silver, our executive director. Today, Free Press is the largest media reform organization in the United States, with nearly half-a-million activists and members and a full-time staff of more than 30 based in our offices in Washington, D.C., and Florence, Mass.

Free Press and the Free Press Action Fund, our advocacy arm, are nonprofit organizations that rely on the support of our members. Please click here to make a donation or learn about member benefits."

The media scholar McChesney is a professor at Columbia University which makes me suspicious of the non-partisan claims of this group.

The home page of the website shows a headline and a picture of "Journalism Under Siege at the RNC" and the story is dated October 6.

There seems to be something fishy about these folks.

re: #204 FurryOldGuyJeans

jeezus. horrid.

Yes, we must hold ourselves to a higher standard than that of the deranged moonbats by not comparing ourselves with them and what they do, but by what is right and honorable, and strive for the latter.

Because we all know that the libs do not choose to do so. Let them fall into a vat of misery and live their lives that way.

Several Republican attendees complained of the protesters' vulgarity, especially in light of recent criticism of the behavior of people at McCain-Palin rallies.

Outside on Broad Street, waiting for Palin to leave, one man was heard saying: "Let's stone her, old school."

Another protester shouted at someone entering the hotel, "Wait till your daughter wants an abortion, you hypocrite."

Such people surely are not even aware of the black, empty space where their souls once resided.

re: #208 Cartman

I think you're being a little too idealistic. Who is going to police this kind of stuff? You? Me?

Yes, all of us. This stuff exists because of tacit compliance from all of us.

re: #20 MandyManners

Even a blind pig can find an acorn once in a while.

Are you implying the MSM doesn't rise to the level of a blind pig, and that's why they can't find ACORN?

re: #208 Cartman

Ask each attendee who passes a series of questions to determine if they're a racist?

She was a local volunteer, people there knew her and knew who she was. Someone should have intervened.

I saw on TV today that Fidel Castro said he was "surprized Obama had not been killed like M.L.King. as Americans are racists".

I think many white & black people will vote for Obama just because he is "black" and not for the "content of his character".

Clearly the MSM is not only in the tank for Barry but is part of his campaign. I would suggest the one thing that we all can do is conduct a massive, national moratorium on watching the mainstream television products for about a month or more. This is about money. If the viewing audience goes down significantly companies will start removing ads from the channels. The boycott tactic works well, its just a matter of commitment.

I realize that this may be too late for any major impact on the outcome of the race but the last time I looked we had over 40 million conservatives in this country most of who do watch prime time programming. I know that it would be a real stretch to do for those addicted to the box but if you really want to make a statement this would certainly be a way to go. You wouldn't even have to leave your home to participate.

Just a random thought for early Monday in the desert.

re: #16 zombie

I'd be willing to wager this exact theme (Republicans are hate-mongers) was dreamt up at least two years ago. The whole schedule was timed to have it be unrolled with three weeks to go.

There will be another meme next week. And then more and more.

My husband and I think the screamers are plants. Just like the "Iron my shirt" guys at the Hillary rallies.

This is by far the scariest election I've ever seen. I don't know if I wish for it to be over or not... just keep praying for McCain.

re: #215 Killgore Trout

Yes, all of us. This stuff exists because of tacit compliance from all of us.

Well, then I suggest you go to these rallies and help remove these nuts. You ready or willing to take that on? Is it going to change the outcome of the election? I'll say it again, in a different way - winning hearts and minds is an imposing task. To think you can change people, or prevent them from behaving badly by writing about it is a pipe dream. The world can be an ugly place. Nothing has changed. I would suggest that the primary focus right now should be the defeat of BHO. There's plenty of time afterward for the ostracism of these fools.

re: #108 Priebles

Today Google.ca has a pumpkin pie decorated with a maple leaf for our Thanksgiving.

re: #137 willowone

I'm wondering after the election regardless who wins or loses, How will we repair, the horrible atmosphere caused by Obama campaign, inciting Americans against American

It still bothers me to think about churches full of black people hating on white people instead of praising the Lord and loving their fellow man.

(I know not all churches do this but, prior to learning about Obama's church, I didn't know there were any like that.)

I'm not convinced Creepy Monkey Man is not an Obama operative.

We've seen time and again the leftists creating the charge against Republicans, not finding any evidence to support it and then creating that evidence.

Moby.

How convenient is it that CMM appeared as the Obamanatics are ramping up their charges of 'hate' and 'racism'?

re: #224 kynna

Your tinfoil hat is too tight.

re: #217 Killgore Trout

The person that tried to intervene was McCain. He needs to be more assertive in these situations. It is a mistake continuing these Town Hall rallies, they are TOO interactive and are a setup for unintended consequences.
McCain needs to hammer home his own convictions from HIS own mouth.
I am tired of blaming everyone and everything except the responsible person who must take and maintain some semblance of his ability to control and ward off damage control to his candidacy. That's McCain. It's time to get FIRM and just quote the facts that the media refuses to represent for him! We cannot afford to WISH for more unbiased media coverage. It is as it is for a purposeful reason. Mainly their own core liberal beliefs.
We have to thank people like Michelle Malkin, and Ace for doing their jobs par excellence! And for getting the heat turned up in the journalistic circular world, but those changes will not come tomorrow when we need them in this election. Energy needs to be expended in meaningful ways now. We need to strongly encourage the inevitable faceoff between the two candidates to debate the validated facts that have been presented about dishonorable affiliations, choices, and ideals.

re: #221 Cartman

AMEN!

My first thought about the guy with the monkey is he's a plant. He's so ostentatiously obnoxious, he's got to be angling for a photo-op. And who does that end up helping? My bet is tracked down and identified, this guy is a bigtime Obama supporter. As is the case with the other "angry" and controversial people at McCain - Palin events. Clearly staged dirty tricks.

We have to thank people like Michelle Malkin

-noutopia #226

Are you kidding me? She seems as involved in whipping up the right-wing hysteria right now, as with presenting any 'facts'. It's really disturbing. Read the comments on the items posted today. Note how those who don't buy into the "Obama is a Muslim" meme are bashed down.

That's not contributing to anything, except the likelihood that more of these unhinged right-wingers will appear in the news. Now, I don't hold her responsible for unhinged comments left on her site, but she has, herself, pointed out exactly those sorts of comments from places like HuffPo and DailyKos before. . . . it's a pot-kettle situation to be sure.

re: #40 Cognito

Ha -- you're joking, right?
[snip]
There's no grand conspiracy, Zombie.

Clue (search on billion):
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

Remember that Lifetime Achievement award by BHO's church, led by his spiritual mentor? I mean Wright, not Ayers. How easy to find on the net is that Award story now?

Note how those who don't buy into the "Obama is a Muslim" meme are bashed down.

If and when Obama owns up to and explains the Muslim heritage he clearly and obviously has, the whole "Obama is a Muslim" issue will be defanged. As long as he denies it, and counts on useful idiots to help him deny it --including many supposed conservatives-- it won't be. Mmm-kay?

I am reminded of the time when Charles first brought attention to the large number of racist, anti-semitic blog posts at the Obama campaign's website. Quite quickly, many Obamatons began excusing it away by claiming all those blog posts were made by LGF plants.

Occam's Razor: Not every jerk is a "plant" or "moby"; sometimes an idiotic racist is just an idiotic racist.

Some main differences with the Obama "trolls" you point out:

1) Ugly behavior is not being promoted or condoned by the Obama campaign at their rallies. Whereas you have Palin going around saying things like "This man scares me. He's not one of us. He pals around with terrorists," giving the connotation that he collaborates in terrorist activities. So of course this kind of reprehensible rhetoric from no less than McCain and Palin themselves is going to incite their followers to yell things like "terrorist" and "traitor" at McCain rallies.

2) Relatedly, when such is yelled during McCain/Palin speeches, they ignore it. They don't stop and say "Now hold on, I'm not saying he's a traitor here." I saw one speech with McCain and his wife at the podium for example. McCain mentions Obama's name, someone yells "traitor," and both McCain and his wife smirk, look at the person who yelled this, and go on with their speech as if nothing happened. Absolutely disgusting.

3) There is real danger from the kinds of insinuations McCain/Palin put forward. We have a history of political assassination in this county and a black man for the first time with a shot running to win the presidency. The disgusting tactics of the McCain campaign to promote fear and hatred of Obama at their rallies presents a clear and present danger.

Funny, but I got chewed out by another lizard 2 days ago when I posted the monkey video here. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I think people in the McCain camp need to post the Obama nutjobs with equal fervor. Get them up at Live Leak and YouTube and everywhere else to show the one-sided media bias in showing only one side of this--as if there weren't any loons on the Obama side.

If and when Obama owns up to and explains the Muslim heritage he clearly and obviously has, the whole "Obama is a Muslim" issue will be defanged. As long as he denies it, and counts on useful idiots to help him deny it --including many supposed conservatives-- it won't be.

- jaybird

Deny what? That he's a Muslim? He's demonstrably NOT. In fact, in Muslim eyes I believe he'd be referred to as an apostate, and subject to a death sentence. Mmm-kay?

Without a fair press showing idiots in both camps, its just not gonna happen for us. With the freedom to be a nutjob, and the Democrat plants, its gonna be all "Rethuglicans." If Obama wins, maybe we can all get together and make ourselves feel better. The media will certainly do everything in their power to make him look good and the Dem house and Senate will not investigate him. See how much better the stock market is already? And he is just ahead in the polls.

On the other hand, if McCain Palin are elected I smell multiple hearings and perhaps a special prosecutor Democrat investigation to run Palin out of office along with a complicit media. Day in day out bash Palin. Sorry, but that's how I feel. Last time I posted I got my ass chewed out for being negative and accused of wanting Obama to win.

This is the "Frequently Asked Questions" post from the usenet newsgroup alt.troll. Usenet is quite possibly the birth-place of the internet troll. Either that or IRC (Internet Relay Chat.) A troll is NOT an ignorant person prone to sudden bursts of anger as displayed in his or her posts on the net nor shown in his or her behaviour at political rallies.

LEARN LEARN LEARN!

The word is used far to sloppily these days... Charles.

Late for work... gotta go.

re: #233 Mr. Sandman

Some main differences with the Obama "trolls" you point out:

1) Ugly behavior is not being promoted or condoned by the Obama campaign at their rallies.

And you know this how? Sure don't see any negatives in the MSM.

2) Relatedly, when such is yelled during McCain/Palin speeches, they ignore it. They don't stop and say "Now hold on, I'm not saying he's a traitor here."

And since we never see any negatives from Dems, then we don't know how Obama would handle it.
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3) There is real danger from the kinds of insinuations McCain/Palin put forward. We have a history of political assassination in this county and a black man for the first time with a shot running to win the presidency. The disgusting tactics of the McCain campaign to promote fear and hatred of Obama at their rallies presents a clear and present danger.

If the MSM would fully vet Obama then maybe people wouldn't be afraid. Then again if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

To be honest, I am getting tired of our side having to walk on eggshells all the time while the trolls on the other side are stomping all over the place. I guess we need to continue to rely upon the good bloggers of the Internet who are pointing out the truth, such as Charles and Michelle Malkin and others.

Of course, it would also help if McCain would actually stop worrying about what the centrists think about him and actually work to fire up the base.

re: #35 Claudia

I can't help thinking some of these are planted to cause havoc... that older woman saying to McCain that Obama is an "Arab" threw him for a loop. He just didn't know how to respond.

Quite the contrary, I think McCain's reaction was classy..and more importantly, heartfelt.

re: #233 Mr. Sandman

Bill Ayers is an unapologetic domestic terrorist and former member of the murderous terrorist organization know as "The Weathermen", a/k/a "The Weather Underground".

Obama and Ayers have had a friendly, working relationship for years.

Therefore, saying that Obama "pals around with terrorists" is not "reprehensible rhetoric", it is an un-fuckin-deniable fact laid bare.

re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth

I am tired of the formulation "unapologetic terrorist". Hell, he is a proud terrorist, just as Osama is.

That seven years after an attack on the pentagon we could elect someone who is at friends with someone else who did that is mind-blowing.

re: #169 Killgore Trout

Sure there is. Watch the video I posted at #36. He's very proud of that monkey and waving it around like an idiot. The LLL protesters were chanting "racist" at him but he didn't care. It only encouraged him. If his fellow McCain supporters standing in line had joined the racist chant and pushed him out of line the whole incident would have been avoided. Same with the lady in red I posted upthread. She's a volunteer for the campaign and her fellow volunteers should have corrected her faulty racist opinions long ago. Failing that someone in the campaign should have stopped her taking the microphone and spouting racist shit on national television.

We have to accept responsibility for this stuff and not pass the buck or make excuses for it. It's our fault that this stuff goes on and we can't blame the press for pointing it out.

You do know that they have been changing "racist" at basically every campaign rally, right? Even ones without monkey dolls? You just don't get it. All Republicans are racist. If you are not Leftist, you are racist. Period.

You are right that someone should put the scorn on that guy for his antics, but it wouldn't have stopped the crowd from chanting. Barack Obama is the first black President, and no matter what anyone does or says they are going to be called racists, or accused of making 'racially tinged' commentary, or be compared to George Wallace.

I know tons of Democrats, including a handful in my own family that are racist as shit, and open about. For the love of god, Tim Kaine was flying the Confederate Flag. He's not racist, by default. He's a Democrat. The man is an out and out, Rebel flag waving racist hick. In a debate versus an another out and out, Rebel flag waving racist hick, the GOP's own George Allen, Allen was picketted as being the racist hick that he is, and Tim Kaine still gets a pass for flying a symbol of oppression and rebellion from a state capital that is practically within in spitting distance from the nation's capital.

The Tim Kaine's of the Democrat party are common. They should be shot down, as should the GOP racists, but your expectation that if the GOP were pure and noble that it wouldn't be held to an even higher standard is completely faulty.

Is the guy with a monkey doll racist? Yeah, probably. Rightfully accused, and he embarrases us all. Are John McCain and Sarah Palin racist? According to the Democrats and the MSM, yes they absolutely are. At the very least they are fully guilty of race-baiting. It doesn't matter that they haven't done any such thing. It just is so.

Good luck on your mission to clean up the 55 million members of the GOP. Don't expect it to clean up the image of the GOP however. Over a hundred years of Democrat malfeasanse, corruption, domestic terrorism, apartheid, slavery, and documented treason haven't tarnished its image.

re: #235 Yashmak

Deny what? That he's a Muslim? He's demonstrably NOT. In fact, in Muslim eyes I believe he'd be referred to as an apostate, and subject to a death sentence. Mmm-kay?

There is no proof he ever renounced the Muslim faith his father and stepfather raised him in. He's stated publicly he would side with Muslims if public opinion turned against them in the US and he has said the call of the muezzin is "one of the most beautiful sounds on earth."

If Muslims think of him as an apostate, why are Hamas, Hebollah, Ahmadinnerjabber and so on so enthusiastic about his candidacy? Why are so many of his associates Muslims with unsavory connections?

Go spread your taqqiya somewhere else.

re: #181 gwillie

I have photos of the Kids For Obama March although most of it was innocent Obama worship a few anti Palin and McCain messages could be found.
The "Nope" sticker was a big one
And a little misprint on a bumpersticker
and a few of the kids learned from their parents.
And on the bathroom wall. No telling how long it's been there.

Looks like a few "peace" terrorsymp scarves there....

re: #233 Mr. Sandman

Sandman, I can agree with you to a certain point.

However, there are people who do feel so strongly against him, and his policy that it is to the point of treason.

I agree, McCain should not allow his meetings to become enraged circle jerks. He certainly could set the tone, by forcefully speaking in that direction up front.

But make no mistake. This Bill Ayres issue will not go away. It should not. Obama's explanation of him just being a guy from his block in not enough. Not even close to enough.

Not when you kick your campaign off in his house, share more than a close board position, collaborate on manipulating school curriculum, and provide legal counsel for out and out voter fraud, while accepting donations from the same, some feel this might walk the line of treason.

This guy he knows from his block hates this country, the common folk who are patriotic, and wishes to reshape everything we have ever known in this life we call America.

He has committed domestic terrorism, and has never been punished for it. His fellow citizens were murdered.

Furthermore, saying you will meet without pre-conditions, a nation we know that is currently helping kill our military with EID technology, certainly exceeds bad judgment, but not quite treason, albeit, he would at the top of that chain of command for those dying as a result.

So, when we see him videos refusing to something we teach every child in school to do, the very vestige that drapes the coffins of those flying back to Dover, and perhaps Arlington as the final resting spot, yeah, some people get angry enough to feel his actions are treasonous.

This campaign has drawn out the worst, but it does not just rest on the shoulders of a select few.

re: #246 formercorpsman

Quite a few typos.

Sorry.

re: #167 reine.de.tout

Reminds me of this:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Strange, I didn't know the left-wing media is hypocritical.
Being judgmental is exclusive to the elite.

I have a hard time believing anyone who supports McCain would carry a monkey around. In this day and age everyone knows what such an action would cause.
It would be so easy to make a candidate look "racist" by doing a few stupid things like this guy did.

I wonder about the McCain supporters that have been in the news lately. How do we know they are really McCain supporters and not radicals trying to discredit McCain. Like the undecided voters at the debate that turned out to be lying and were really obama supporters.

Funny, Free....that's EXACTLY what I was going to post. But you beat me to it by 9 minutes. We have NO way of knowing if those "trolls" were even McCain followers. Because as we all know - and I did it yesterday - sometimes people infiltrate others' events. Zombie does it. Others do it. Gwillian did it yesterday also. We didn't disrupt, but how hard is it to get a shill in the crowd to heckle "in the name of support" at just the right time?

Therefore, saying that Obama "pals around with terrorists" is not "reprehensible rhetoric", it is an un-fuckin-deniable fact laid bare.

re #241

But saying he IS a terrorist is indeed reprehensible rhetoric, of the sort I'm used to seeing spewed by the juveniles at Kos and Huffpo.

There is no proof he ever renounced the Muslim faith his father and stepfather raised him in.

re #244

Except that he's been a member of a Christian church since then, which in the eyes of Islam means he has renounced the faith, making him an apostate. Except that there's no evidence he is now, or has recently been practicing Islam in any way shape or form. Except that as far as I know, there's nothing in his "Muslim heritage" that's any different than if my parents had stuffed me in a Wiccan school before I was old enough to make my own ideological decisions. You want to base your decision on that, rather than on issues that actually MATTER, then fine. Do so. The very point of the conversation here is that the normally rational right is increasingly prone to making decisions based on non-issues like this, rather than on those that actually matter.

This sort of stuff gets no traction with the average voter. Isn't that obvious by now?!?

And if the American populace 'turned on' those Muslims among us, I hope we'd ALL side with the Muslims. . .remembering that our founding fathers, who we all frequently express our respect for, recognized the importance of freedom of religion, right along with our freedom of speech, in the First Ammendment.

If Muslims think of him as an apostate, why are Hamas, Hebollah, Ahmadinnerjabber and so on so enthusiastic about his candidacy?

Because they know Obama's foreign policy will be weak (hell, Biden, his foreign policy pro has made it plain neither he or Obama has a grasp of recent history in the Middle East), that he'll give concessions that they know McCain would not, and that he'll give those concessions without any sort of committment required on their part.

Deny what? That he's a Muslim? He's demonstrably NOT. In fact, in Muslim eyes I believe he'd be referred to as an apostate, and subject to a death sentence. Mmm-kay?

"Demonstrably NOT"? Say what? He says he's not a Muslim. That's it. It's not a "demonstrable" thing. It's just words he says. What's DEMONSTRABLE is that he is named Barack Hussein (Muslim names both) by a DEMONSTRABLY Muslim father, and sent to Islamic schools by a DEMONSTRABLY Muslim stepfather, who also took him to mosque to pray to allah, and the first chance he got in adulthood he trekked to Kenya to adorn himself in Islamic tribal dress, an event he was so proud of that he made sure that the moment was captured for posterity. The unanswered question he should be addressing is if he's no longer a Muslim when did he stop, and why. Shouldn't be all that hard a thing for for a proud and devout Christian to declare. Right? So why isn't he?

re: #253 Yashmak

Except that he's been a member of a Christian church since then, which in the eyes of Islam means he has renounced the faith, making him an apostate. Except that there's no evidence he is now, or has recently been practicing Islam in any way shape or form.

Actually, how do we know he's a member of the church? Sitting in a pew no more makes you a Christian, than sitting in a stadium makes you a football player. And I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I'm not at all sure that Jeremiah Wright's church IS Christian. Oh, he spouts the names of God and Jesus a lot. And please don't anybody start in on me about how I shouldn't judge. The Epistles of Paul are FULL of him telling the young churches how to discern proper doctrine from false doctrines, and even telling people what to do with folks who weren't following proper doctrine. I'm not a Christian. But I know politics disguised as religion when I hear it.

But, I will agree with this: I've never heard even the faintest hint that Obama follows Islam to the extent of using a prayer mat. That doesn't mean he doesn't lean toward it, and it doesn't mean he hasn't been bought by it.

Jaybird, my last name is Huntley, a DEMONSTRABLY Scottish name. Yet, I'm not Scottish. I'm American. My first name is Matthew, after a disciple of Jesus. Yet I'm not Jewish or Aramaic or whatever. I went to a demonstrably protestant church, sent there by a demonstrably protestant mother, and yet I am agnostic. I attended a Methodist founded private university, and yet I'm not Methodist.

The unanswered question he should be addressing is if he's no longer a Muslim when did he stop, and why.

Perhaps as far as he's concerned, he never started. I tried hard, but could never really bring myself to believe in the whole Christianity thing. It doesn't mean I didn't recite the Lord's Prayer with the other kids. Hell, I was even a member of the children's choir there.

There are plenty of issues regarding Obama that aren't based on raw conjecture, that McCain and conservatives should be airing to the American people instead of wasting time calling him an Arab or a Muslim. All pursuing this issue does, is reinforce the meme that conservatives are racist or bigoted.

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