Hamas Thugs Caught Smuggling Suitcases Full of Cash (Again)

Middle EastFebruary 2009 • Views: 3,299

Hamas “negotiators” attended cease-fire talks in Cairo this week, and somehow, mysteriously, ended up with suitcases full of money that they tried to smuggle into Gaza: Hamas negotiators stopped with suitcases of cash.

CAIRO – Hamas negotiators left Egypt without a long-term cease-fire with Israel on Thursday — but not before some members of the militant group’s delegation were stopped at the Gaza border carrying millions in cash.

The delegation walked away from the cease-fire talks because of disagreements over the blockage on Gaza and border security. Talks will continue at a later date.

An Egyptian security official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said the group initially refused to be searched by Egyptian authorities at the Rafah border crossing. When the group relented, authorities found $7 million and 2 million euros ($2.5 million) in cash in their suitcases. Another security official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said $9 million and 2 million euros were found. The discrepancy could not be immediately explained.

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183 comments

jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:26:32pm

Boy that stimulus money got distributed fast……
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:26:39pm

I can’t tell if they were taking money to Gaza, or taking $$ out.

Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:27:25pm

OK so were is the money now?

itellu3times Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:27:38pm

LGF too busy for me today, gotta actually work, bummer.

Somebody give me a suitcase full of cash, pleeze.

faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:27:58pm

ok, i see now, they were taking $$ into Gaza like Charles said.

Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:28:06pm

That’s a hell of a lot of cash. Do they really need to buy stuff? I sorta thought they took what they wanted, and had the rest (munitions, etc.) supplied by other vendors.

Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:28:18pm

So I guess they don’t need aid from the UN, EU, US, etc.

MJ Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:29:16pm

Jimmy Carter’s royalties I bet.

acwgusa Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:29:16pm

Cash and Carry!

Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:29:17pm

re: #7 Kosh’s Shadow

So I guess they don’t need aid from the UN, EU, US, etc.

Maybe that WAS aid. Who knows?

Mithrax Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:29:35pm

You know, you’ve got to have balls of brass not only to bring that cash into Hamasland, but just to CARRY it. Would you trust your armed guards in that land?

karmic_inquisitor Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:29:46pm

The Terrorism Stimulus Plan is working!

Golem Akbar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:29:48pm

Joining Arafat’s widow in Paris? hmmm

[deleted] Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:29:52pm

godfrey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:30:28pm

authorities found $7 million and 2 million euros ($2.5 million) in cash in their suitcases. Another security official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said $9 million and 2 million euros were found. The discrepancy could not be immediately explained.

“Madrassa education.”

Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:31:08pm

Lucy you got some ‘splainin to do.

subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:31:20pm

re: #15 godfrey

“Madrassa education.”

Hmmm….more Nancy Pelosi math?

Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:31:23pm

They heard there’s a bank in France that has dealt with large cash deposits from Palestinians….perhaps they are going to take advantage of the free toaster with each deposit over $2.5 Million?

Golem Akbar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:31:27pm

/It’s stressful living in Gaza and you know, sometimes ya’ just gotta play.

karmic_inquisitor Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:31:30pm

This is all an oversight.

The Obama campaign did an internal audit and realized they needed to give back some donations. These guys were just bringing back the first batch of returned contributions.

Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:31:41pm

What’s the big fucking deal. You have to tip the maids and cab drivers.
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:31:51pm

Boy these folks are idiots. Why didn’t they just use the tunnels. I suppose it’s decisions like this that lead to them losing every war they ever tried to fight against Israel.

mean Gene Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:32:34pm

Yeah, this story sounds almost word for word exactly like the one from a few months ago.
And it was Egypt stopping it then, too.
Wasn’t there a storming of the barriers at the crossing over it?
And didn’t Hamas succeed in bringing in the cash anyway?

Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:32:35pm

It’s nice to see that the Euro is now the reserve currency of Hamas.

Diamond Bullet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:32:37pm

International grievance theater on the installment plan.

Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:32:46pm

re: #22 Jetpilot1101

Boy these folks are idiots. Why didn’t they just use the tunnels. I suppose it’s decisions like this that lead to them losing every war they ever tried to fight against Israel.

There’s been a huge “goat traffic” jam in the tunnels since the IDF blew up the main ones.

[deleted] Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:33:00pm

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:33:29pm

The discrepancy could not be immediately explained.

“Mustafa, how much did we find?”

“9 Million, Sir!”

*SLAP*

“uh, 7 million, Sir?”

“Better”

Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:33:56pm

When the group relented, authorities found $7 million and 2 million euros ($2.5 million) in cash in their suitcases. Another security official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said $9 million and 2 million euros were found. The discrepancy could not be immediately explained.

Two million went into the pocket of the first security official.

DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:34:23pm

Did they pay their taxes on that cash?

red satellite Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:34:23pm

Is that $7 million in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:34:37pm

“Pay to play.”
Get used to it, it’s our new foreign policy.

I suppose the UN (meaning the U.S. taxpayers) will have to write another check to cover the shortfall, wherever it shows up.

godfrey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:34:46pm

re: #24 Occasional Reader

The EU Commission should really cut out these middlemen. They’d be better off just tossing the bills out of an airplane. Might do more good.

lawhawk Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:35:01pm

Where’d the money come from? I know where it’s going… to fund Hamas terror ops. They’ll make a few photo ops showing them giving out a few dollars to families whose apartments they used as sniper nests or mortar launching/prep facilities, but they’re funding their war.

Follow the money.

karmic_inquisitor Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:35:41pm

re: #27 taxfreekiller

Obama may have a plan to balance the budget, Soilis’s husband just on the yesterday paid $6,000 in past due taxes.

Her nomination now on hold.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com…]

Commie tax cheats under every corner of the commie Democrat rug.

Did you see this yet?

Obama to take personal control of 2010 census.

Seems he feels that certain groups get “undercounted” so he wants to be sure they get extra population. More opportunity for ACORN to register the non-existent and then vote on their behalf.

OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:35:56pm

Those tunnels are a regular goat mine!

karmic_inquisitor Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:36:22pm

re: #30 DeafDog

Did they pay their taxes on that cash?

/

No - they are hoping for Obama cabinet appointments.

DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:36:45pm

Those fake hospital sets are expensive to set up. Just ask any hollywood producer.

Golem Akbar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:03pm

re: #37 karmic_inquisitor

No - they are hoping for Obama cabinet appointments.

That was ba-a-a-d.

faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:12pm

OT:

Abortion clinic delivers baby then kills it.

Mad Mullah Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:22pm

I don’t believe that the Palestinian leaders really want their own state, the current racket that they have had going on for decades now is far more profitable, and besides, they don’t even have to work for the money. Moronic western countries and the always pathetic UN will continue to supply these gangster terrorists with a fresh flow of cash which they will use on weapons and bombs so that they may strike out at the Juice. When the Juice strike back, the same people and countries that supplied the Juice killers with money, will protest loudly when the Juice defends themselves.

[deleted] Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:29pm

Golem Akbar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:35pm

re: #36 OldLineTexan

Those tunnels are a regular goat mine!

baaad

subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:49pm

And the last paragraph of the story:

Arab banks have generally refused to transfer money to Gaza for fear of running afoul of the United States, which considers Hamas a terrorist organization. The money has helped keep afloat the Hamas government, which is generally shunned by foreign governments.

Think that may change soon?

looking closely Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:55pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

Did you see this yet?

Obama to take personal control of 2010 census.

Seems he feels that certain groups get “undercounted” so he wants to be sure they get extra population. More opportunity for ACORN to register the non-existent and then vote on their behalf.

Like he has nothing better to do as President of the USA than babysit bean counting beaurocrats.

Obama better watch himself, because if he doesn’t, he’s going to turn into Carter II.

bulwrk Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:56pm

Hey buying a U.N. war crimes commission ain’t cheap.

akak Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:37:58pm

Goats must be expensive nowadays.

izbliss Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:38:14pm

Geez guys. Next time store the money in a freezer. Then when you get caught, you can act dumb. It worked for one of our elected officials, Charlie Rangel, didn’t it?

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:38:16pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

Did you see this yet?

Obama to take personal control of 2010 census.

Seems he feels that certain groups get “undercounted” so he wants to be sure they get extra population. More opportunity for ACORN to register the non-existent and then vote on their behalf.

Nothing like micromanagement to get an operation rolling smoothly.

I trust the motives of a guy hanging out in a rusty van offering kids candy to help him find his lost puppy more than I trust Barry.

DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:38:19pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

Did you see this yet?

Obama to take personal control of 2010 census.

Seems he feels that certain groups get “undercounted” so he wants to be sure they get extra population. More opportunity for ACORN to register the non-existent and then vote on their behalf.

Also more chances to spread some jobs around to their cronnies…they will be waaay over budget.

Gretchen Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:38:36pm

Shouldn’t Obama nominate them to his cabinet or something?

karmic_inquisitor Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:38:37pm

Citizens!

Repent! Repent from your Capitalist ways!

That, or suffer the Opacalypse

phoenixgirl Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:38:38pm

i wonder if there is money in the bail out for them?/

Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:38:47pm

Cash Ackbar! Jihad doesn’t run on credit.

SummerSong Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:39:01pm

I wish I could put Gaza on Gaze.

Someday, perhaps.

Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:39:04pm

re: #44 subsailor68

Give it a week. Hamas will be a “Partner in Peace”.

gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:39:08pm

re: #45 looking closely

Like he has nothing better to do as President of the USA than babysit bean counting beaurocrats.

Obama better watch himself, because if he doesn’t, he’s going to turn into Carter II.

Too late:

Youtube Video

MandyManners Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:39:14pm

re: #1 jcm

Boy that stimulus money got distributed fast……
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ROFLMAO!

albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:39:31pm

re: #42 taxfreekiller

E-gads , Obama and his loons have not one idea about what the f’ is going on.

dumb as rocks all of them

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Teacake! Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:39:51pm

Who is the source of the money? Thats a lot of cash to just have laying around.

godfrey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:39:53pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

Gregg is an (R). Can’t be trusted.

Jewels (AKA Julian) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:40:24pm

re: #45 looking closely

What do you mean, “going to”

DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:40:35pm

Dear Mr. President,

Here is your pencil and paper. Start counting.

subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:40:57pm

Obama’s taking personal control of the census?

Personally I’d find opening the door to find Obama standing there with a clipboard a little creepy.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:40:58pm

re: #52 karmic_inquisitor

Citizens!

Repent! Repent from your Capitalist ways!

That, or suffer the Opacalypse

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHANGE!

subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:41:47pm

re: #56 Lincolntf

Give it a week. Hamas will be a “Partner in Peace”.

Phew! What a relief that’ll be!

;-)

Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:41:53pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

Did you see this yet?

Obama to take personal control of 2010 census.

Seems he feels that certain groups get “undercounted” so he wants to be sure they get extra population. More opportunity for ACORN to register the non-existent and then vote on their behalf.

Jeez! can you imagine how crappy the data would be? Nancy says 50 million a month, and Barry said 10K got killed in a tornado.

I think that the census would show we surpassed China, India, and Africa, combined, in total population.

[deleted] Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:42:33pm

DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:42:48pm

re: #57 gmsc

Too late:

Thread-worthy!

gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:43:02pm

re: #64 subsailor68

Obama’s taking personal control of the census?

Personally I’d find opening the door to find Obama standing there with a clipboard a little creepy.

I’d make sure that 0bama would find standing at my door with a clipboard more than just a little creepy.

DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:02pm

re: #59 albusteve

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Even McCain’s Minnie-me is getting fiesty!

looking closely Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:03pm

re: #40 faraway

OT:

Abortion clinic delivers baby then kills it.

Ouch. That’s simply murder.

(Well, maybe not under the Obama rules where its perfectly fine to kill babies who survive abortions, but otherwise).

As a not-really-relevant aside, the likelihood of a 23 week old making it to discharge is just under 20%, and that assumes the baby gets maximal care. Of the ones that survive, many will have serious defects such as blindness and cerebral palsy.

Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:06pm

Palestinian cease fire continues….
IDF troops shoot armed Palestinian on border with Gaza

IDF troops shot an armed Palestinian on Thursday evening who tried to attack the soldiers on the border with Gaza Strip.

The army confirmed the incident, and said that troops shot the gunman after he ignored warning shots and tried to throw a grenade at the soldiers.

There was no immediate word as to whether the gunman was killed or just wounded.

FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:10pm

Call the spineless Republicans.

[Link: michellemalkin.com…]

Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:12pm

re: #67 Guanxi88

Jeez! can you imagine how crappy the data would be? Nancy says 50 million a month, and Barry said 10K got killed in a tornado.

I think that the census would show we surpassed China, India, and Africa, combined, in total population.

I mean, come on. We have five-hundred million people losing their jobs every month.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:13pm

re: #67 Guanxi88

Jeez! can you imagine how crappy the data would be? Nancy says 50 million a month, and Barry said 10K got killed in a tornado.

I think that the census would show we surpassed China, India, and Africa, combined, in total population.

All made up of underprivileged and underrepresented people who prior governments had simply missed! Time to fund some community organizers to help these poor, never before counted “people” get to voting booths!

bulwrk Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:23pm

OT
Did anyone else notice that Obama did the old flipping the bird while scratching his face trick again the other day?

subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:25pm

re: #70 gmsc

I’d make sure that 0bama would find standing at my door with a clipboard more than just a little creepy.

Now that’s funny!

Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:31pm

re: #60 Teacake!

The source (ultimately) has got to be the West. There’s not a single entity in Africa/M.E. that could exist without at least tacit support from the Western world. Never mind coming up with a few million in greenbacks for desert-dwelling babykillers.
The fact that the cash willl be used to advance the cause of killing us seems to elude the pointy-heads who declare it to be a necessary reality.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:44:51pm

re: #67 Guanxi88

Jeez! can you imagine how crappy the data would be? Nancy says 50 million a month, and Barry said 10K got killed in a tornado.

I think that the census would show we surpassed China, India, and Africa, combined, in total population.

2010 Census: 500 trillion US citizens, of whom whites males are 5%, yet hold 95% of the assets. The remaining 115% of the population are oppressed minorites requiring federal assistance because 120% of them are unemployed.

FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:45:16pm

re: #40 faraway

OT:

Abortion clinic delivers baby then kills it.

Obama nation.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:46:08pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Palestinian cease fire continues….
IDF troops shoot armed Palestinian on border with Gaza

How dare the IDF break the cease-fire!

jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:46:12pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

Did you see this yet?

Obama to take personal control of 2010 census.

Seems he feels that certain groups get “undercounted” so he wants to be sure they get extra population. More opportunity for ACORN to register the non-existent and then vote on their behalf.

I got the long form last time around. I filled in only the number of people in the house. The Constitution says “enumerate” not how many toilets I have.

I got a follow up visit from one of those temp census workers. Wanting to fill out the rest of the form. I told him how may people where in the house, and if wanted any more info come back with a subpoena.

Poor guy left with a confused look on his face, “I work for the government, you can’t say no!”

DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:47:33pm

re: #83 jcm

I will be borrowing your approach.

Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:48:11pm

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

2010 Census: 500 trillion US citizens, of whom whites males are 5%, yet hold 95% of the assets. The remaining 115% of the population are oppressed minorites requiring federal assistance because 120% of them are unemployed.

So, you’re into statistical forecasting, eh? I imagine you’re pretty close to the mark.

[deleted] Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:48:33pm

gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:48:47pm

re: #83 jcm

I got the long form last time around. I filled in only the number of people in the house. The Constitution says “enumerate” not how many toilets I have.

I got a follow up visit from one of those temp census workers. Wanting to fill out the rest of the form. I told him how may people where in the house, and if wanted any more info come back with a subpoena.

Poor guy left with a confused look on his face, “I work for the government, you can’t say no!”

Simple answer: Tell the guy if he’s truly correct, and that you can’t say “no” because he works for the government, then it should be fairly easy to get that subpoena.

subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:48:47pm

re: #72 looking closely

Ouch. That’s simply murder.

(Well, maybe not under the Obama rules where its perfectly fine to kill babies who survive abortions, but otherwise).

As a not-really-relevant aside, the likelihood of a 23 week old making it to discharge is just under 20%, and that assumes the baby gets maximal care. Of the ones that survive, many will have serious defects such as blindness and cerebral palsy.

I see your point about the complications, but from the story:

One of the clinic’s owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant’s umbilical cord. Williams says the woman placed the baby in a plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.

That’s not something I ever want to see be considered either normal or acceptable here in America.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:48:52pm

re: #85 Guanxi88

So, you’re into statistical forecasting, eh? I imagine you’re pretty close to the mark.

Nope. I’m just really good at bullshitting.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:48:53pm

Census workers (btw) part time, short term, 25.00 per hour or so.

Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:49:00pm

re: #77 bulwrk

OT
Did anyone else notice that Obama did the old flipping the bird while scratching his face trick again the other day?

I hope he does that when he is visiting some Muslim Country

Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:49:03pm

re: #83 jcm

I got the long form last time around. I filled in only the number of people in the house. The Constitution says “enumerate” not how many toilets I have.

I got a follow up visit from one of those temp census workers. Wanting to fill out the rest of the form. I told him how may people where in the house, and if wanted any more info come back with a subpoena.

Poor guy left with a confused look on his face, “I work for the government, you can’t say no!”

That’s what I basically told the census people the last time they came to visit me. One of them got angry and said that they’d be back. Never saw them again.

notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:49:24pm

That’s a huge amount of US dollars and Euros to have in cash. I hope they interrogate these Hamas “negotiators”
as to the originator of the money pass in Egypt.
Otherwise, the money will just continue to flow through the border, since they can’t crawl through the collapsed tunnels anymore….at least for awhile.

gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:49:45pm

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

2010 Census: 500 trillion US citizens, of whom whites males are 5%, yet hold 95% of the assets. The remaining 115% of the population are oppressed minorites requiring federal assistance because 120% of them are unemployed.

500 trillion US citizens? Just how many people live in those extra 7 states that 0bama invented?

subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:50:06pm

re: #92 Soona’

That’s what I basically told the census people the last time they came to visit me. One of them got angry and said that they’d be back. Never saw them again.

Heh, heh. Did ya move? That would have messed with both their heads and their data.

:-)

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:50:50pm

Crap. Are any of Obama’s people patriots? Ain’t it patriotic to pay taxes?

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:51:02pm

re: #94 gmsc

500 trillion US citizens? Just how many people live in those extra 7 states that 0bama invented?

437 trillion, but they’re all gay homeless minorities with disabilities

Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:51:05pm

re: #83 jcm

I got the long form last time around. I filled in only the number of people in the house. The Constitution says “enumerate” not how many toilets I have.

I got a follow up visit from one of those temp census workers. Wanting to fill out the rest of the form. I told him how may people where in the house, and if wanted any more info come back with a subpoena.

Poor guy left with a confused look on his face, “I work for the government, you can’t say no!”

If he comes back and bothers you more, mention in passing that you just picked up a nice bottle of Chianti.

Works like a charm.

Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:51:22pm

re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Crap. Are any of Obama’s people patriots? Ain’t it patriotic to pay taxes?

It’s patriotic for Republicans to pay taxes. Don’t ya know that?

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Red Pencil Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:51:50pm

The [$2 million] discrepancy could not be immediately explained.

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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:52:18pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

437 trillion, but they’re all gay homeless minorities with disabilities

And children. Don’t forget the children.

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looking closely Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:52:27pm

re: #62 Jewels (AKA Julian)

What do you mean, “going to”

Obama has been POTUS for two weeks.

I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, though I have to say, so far he’s been off to a pretty lousy start.

McCain was right…President of the United States is not a job amenable to on-the-job training. Even Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t qualified to be POTUS…about four months before he started running.

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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:52:57pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

Did you see this yet?

Obama to take personal control of 2010 census.

Seems he feels that certain groups get “undercounted” so he wants to be sure they get extra population. More opportunity for ACORN to register the non-existent and then vote on their behalf.

Fitting that your link is to “CQPolitics”… sounds like “close quarters politics”. That’s what we’re in for.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:53:17pm

A Senate committee today abruptly canceled a session to consider President Obama’s nomination of Rep. Hilda Solis to be labor secretary in the wake of a report saying that her husband yesterday paid about $6,400 to settle tax liens against his business — including liens that had been outstanding for as long as 16 years.

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Red Pencil Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:54:06pm

The [$2 million] discrepancy could not be immediately explained.

Heh. Well, it COULD, but not without possible libel to Rafah security…

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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:54:10pm

re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Crap. Are any of Obama’s people patriots? Ain’t it patriotic to pay taxes?

Ya know, between Joe Biden’s comment, the parade of Democratic tax cheats, and the pending Obama tax hikes, I see a pretty good attack ad for 2010.

Michael Steele, are you listening?

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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:54:20pm

A young American diplomat has been found dead at his house in the Ethiopian capital and foul play is suspected, US and Ethiopian officials said Thursday.

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:54:27pm

re: #40 faraway

OT:

Abortion clinic delivers baby then kills it.

Is that not considered homicide?

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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:54:32pm

re: #98 Occasional Reader

If he comes back and bothers you more, mention in passing that you just picked up a nice bottle of Chianti.

Works like a charm.

Fava beans…..
MMMMMMMM

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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:54:40pm

re: #48 izbliss

William “Cold Cash” Jefferson.

He got tossed out on his ear last election.

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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:54:51pm

re: #98 Occasional Reader

If he comes back and bothers you more, mention in passing that you just picked up a nice bottle of Chianti.

Works like a charm.

And that you relish the thought of him joining you at dinner.

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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:55:27pm

re: #93 notutopia

One must wonder how much of that cash is counterfeit.

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calvin coolidge Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:55:33pm

OHHHHHHH COME ON! OHHHHHH SURE! Like none of you have ever carried millions of dollars around in a suitcase before.

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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:55:47pm

re: #103 Occasional Reader

Fitting that your link is to “CQPolitics”… sounds like “close quarters politics”. That’s what we’re in for.

It surely does. “No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy. ” - Lord Nelson

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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:55:48pm

re: #108 Honorary Yooper

Is that not considered homicide?

It is to me. Disgusting. And were is the National Coverage and Outrage?

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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:56:03pm

re: #108 Honorary Yooper

Is that not considered homicide?

Not in Obamerica.

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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:56:27pm

re: #113 calvin coolidge

OHHHHHHH COME ON! OHHHHHH SURE! Like none of you have ever carried millions of dollars around in a suitcase before.

Once, but it was for charity. I had to support those poor homeless strippers and help put them thru college.

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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:56:33pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

we’ve just moved beyond the realm of the absurd.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:56:45pm

re: #106 DeafDog

Ya think!?

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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:56:59pm

re: #116 Soona’

Not in Obamerica.

This goes to my list of new favorite words and phrase:

0bamerica
Question Othority
0bamanation

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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:57:33pm

re: #108 Honorary Yooper

Is that not considered homicide?

Homicide charges have been filed in a number of cases for unborn children.
It’s being investigated. Watch this one closely.

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Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:57:34pm

This would never have happened if the GAZAMART stores had ATM.

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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:57:47pm

re: #103 Occasional Reader

Fitting that your link is to “CQPolitics”… sounds like “close quarters politics”. That’s what we’re in for.

Are you ready for Cook County politics on a national scale? Well, if not, it’s coming your way.

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Unakite Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:58:12pm

re: #93 notutopia

That’s a huge amount of US dollars and Euros to have in cash. I hope they interrogate these Hamas “negotiators”
as to the originator of the money pass in Egypt.
Otherwise, the money will just continue to flow through the border, since they can’t crawl through the collapsed tunnels anymore….at least for awhile.

Can you say Rendition?

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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:58:43pm

Thursday, February 05, 2009
Obama with Subtitles

[Link: sobekpundit.blogspot.com…]

Worth a look. Pretty fast and funny

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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:59:00pm

re: #108 Honorary Yooper

Is that not considered homicide?

I believe there are people in this country that have absolutely no problem with this at all. The “doctors” are just eliminating a “burden” from the mother.

When life does not mean anything, there is no end to the suffering you can inflict on others.

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[deleted] Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:59:14pm

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VioletTiger Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:59:24pm

re: #108 Honorary Yooper

Is that not considered homicide?

It makes me sick.

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Unakite Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:59:31pm

re: #48 izbliss

Geez guys. Next time store the money in a freezer. Then when you get caught, you can act dumb. It worked for one of our elected officials, Charlie Rangel, didn’t it?

William Jefferson.

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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:59:52pm

re: #122 Peacekeeper

This would never have happened if the GAZAMART stores had ATM.

Find all your bomb making materials for half off only today at Gaza Mart!
Gaza Mart, the bomb of discount store!

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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:00:11pm

re: #126 Desert Dog

I believe there are people in this country that have absolutely no problem with this at all. The “doctors” are just eliminating a “burden” from the mother.

When life does not mean anything, there is no end to the suffering you can inflict on others.

If they do an autopsy and find the babies lungs filled with oxygen, then I believe they have good cause to bring homicide charges. Of course I’m no lawyer.

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nyc redneck Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:00:56pm

re: #81 FrogMarch

Obama nation.

he didn’t want her punished.
(better the baby was thrown in the trash)
gak, i have nothing in common w/ libs.

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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:01:10pm

re: #45 looking closely

Like he has nothing better to do as President of the USA than babysit bean counting beaurocrats.

Obama better watch himself, because if he doesn’t, he’s going to turn into Carter II.

I’m starting to think that we’d be getting off easy if he was just a Carter II. Carter was an inept, naive moron but that’s all.
Obama has a radical leftist agenda that will have a far worse impact on the country, I’m afraid.

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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:02:17pm

re: #128 VioletTiger

It makes me sick.

Me too. Two paragraphs stand out:

New York records show that Renelique has made at least five medical malpractice payments in the past decade, the circumstances of which were not detailed in the filings.

The department wants the Board of Medicine, a separate agency, to permanently revoke Renelique’s license, among other penalties. His license is currently restricted, permitting him to only perform abortions when another licensed physician is present and can review his medical records.

That this place is even open is a travesty.

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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:02:37pm

re: #126 Desert Dog

I believe there are people in this country that have absolutely no problem with this at all. The “doctors” are just eliminating a “burden” from the mother.

When life does not mean anything, there is no end to the suffering you can inflict on others.

I’m old enough now that they’ve already got my euthanasia syringe already registered.

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Unakite Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:04:20pm

re: #107 Nevergiveup

A young American diplomat has been found dead at his house in the Ethiopian capital and foul play is suspected, US and Ethiopian officials said Thursday.

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

Gee, why would anybody suspect foul play in such a civilized and advanced country as Ethiopia?

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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:05:16pm

re: #135 Soona’

I’m old enough now that they’ve already got my euthanasia syringe already registered.

That is not too far off if the lefties get their way. Funny how they fancy themselves so caring and loving and loaded up with feelings and emotions and all, but, when it comes to extinguishing a human life, it’s no big deal for them……

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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:05:27pm

re: #112 Honorary Yooper

One must wonder how much of that cash is counterfeit.

This whole article Just seems smelly fishy to me. Why would Egypt stop the money from crossing? The Hamas negotiators were in Egypt to begin with. Was the money captured, a stage, and PR opportunity for Egypt to show…look, we’re doing our part in stopping Hamas. Hamas was IN Egypt going back to Gaza. Who’s money was this? Where (location) did it come from?

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capitalist piglet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:05:33pm

re: #133 LGoPs

I’m starting to think that we’d be getting off easy if he was just a Carter II. Carter was an inept, naive moron but that’s all.
Obama has a radical leftist agenda that will have a far worse impact on the country, I’m afraid.

I mostly agree with you, but my opinion of Carter has been in a state of development since his presidency. I’m not willing to put such a benign face on him anymore. The soft-spoken, Christian, house-building peanut farmer schtick masks a lot of very ugly ideas.

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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:06:20pm

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

If he’s unqualifiedly unqualified, the two negatives cancel each other out, making him qualified.

It’s the New Math Politics!

If Buzz has 10 apples and Sally has 2 apples.
How many apples does Buzz have.

Answer: 1

Obama took 9 since it’s not fair he then gave Sally one apple to spread the apples around and kept 8 for administrative costs and called it stimulus.

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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:06:28pm

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ya think!?

My understanding is that, prior to Obama, there have been 20 previous cabinet appointments that were unable to serve (either because of Senate rejection or withdrawal).

What’s Obama up to? 4 or 5?

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Unakite Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:07:28pm

re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Once, but it was for cCharity. I had to support those poor homeless strippers and help put them thru college.

Fixed. Names are capitalized, even strippers.

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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:08:05pm

Can I get me some of that cash? I likes me some cash.

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Ben Hur Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:04pm

Columbus Police Kick CAIR to the Curb

The law enforcement freeze on dealing with the Council on American-Islamic Relations is spreading. Last week, Mary Jacoby’s report for IPT News revealed that the FBI has cut ties with CAIR until officials answer questions about the group’s documented roots in a Hamas support network. Now the Columbus (Ohio) Police Department (CPD) has followed suit.

The dominoes fall.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:13pm

re: #143 Ward Cleaver

Hey Ward! Where you been?

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looking closely Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:46pm

re: #88 subsailor68

I see your point about the complications, but from the story:

One of the clinic’s owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant’s umbilical cord. Williams says the woman placed the baby in a plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.

That’s not something I ever want to see be considered either normal or acceptable here in America.

In my first sentence, I characterized this as murder.

Murder = the deliberate unlawful killing of a human being.

Now, taking a step back, the likelihood of this baby surviving was pretty small. Had it survived, it would have been born to a mother who wanted it aborted. That mother may…but may not…have been willing to go through the tremendous amount of extra work taking care of an illness prone, and possibly disabled extreme-preemie.

So this act *could* (I’m not saying “should”) be characterized as a “mercy-killing”.

Regardless, I think this incident needs both a criminal investigation, as well as an investigation by the State Medical Board of FL.

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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:10:43pm

re: #142 Unakite

Fixed. Names are capitalized, even strippers.

Hah! That would be the ugly stripper’s name, I suppose.

There is a Mercedes, Porshe and Lexus joke in there somewhere, too.

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jwb7605 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:13:55pm

Everybody upding this post from Guanxi88 on the previous thread.

He just took SpaceJesus apart, big time.

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looking closely Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:14:13pm

re: #108 Honorary Yooper

Is that not considered homicide?

By definition, homicide is the killing of a human being.

So without ANY irony at all, it may be reasonable to consider ANY abortion “homicide” (in the literal sense).

I don’t think characterizing the killing of an extrauterine baby that is breathing on its own as “homicide” is even controversial.

The relevant question, I think, is is it MURDER, ie the deliberate UNLAWFUL killing of a person. I’ve already given my opinion, but that’s the sort of thing I think a jury ought to consider here.

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jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:14:50pm

re: #36 OldLineTexan

Those tunnels are a regular goat mine!

Wasn’t there a thread about that? Ohh, wait, that was QUOTE MINE.
My bad.

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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:15:01pm

re: #146 looking closely

My bad. I should have been clear that I saw your first sentence. I didn’t mean to question anything you wrote, which I agree with. My disgust was with the method used to dispose of the baby.

And yep, I totally agree with your last sentence as well.

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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:15:35pm

OT: Geez, Louise.

Talking about the Bill Gates mosquito stunt on another forum, I wrote:

OK, they didn’t have malaria. Did these mosquitos have saliva? I’m pretty sure they did. Proteins in mosquito saliva, even malaria-free mosquitos, can cause severe and even fatal medical problems in peoples with mosquito allergies and/or asthma.

Yet, there’s no word in any write-up of this story that mentions the audience was warned about this irresponsible and extremely stupid stunt.

Then came the reply:

I doubt VERY much anything could have come from gates’s stunt. if so, you could sue him, he can afford it. and he made a nice point.

My reply:

My best friend from college died at the age of 27 from anaphylaxis after being bitten by a mosquito (he had severe mosquito allergies). The allergic reaction was from proteins in the mosquito’s saliva.

Tests did show that there was no evidence of malaria in his system. So, forgive me if I’m not impressed that Bill Gates did nothing more than insure he had malaria-free mosquitos.

Their reply:

Too bad about your friend, but the risk was incredibly low. The people who went to the talk were more likely to die in a car accident on the way there, than they were to die from from anaphylaxis brought on by a mosquito bite (given that anaphylaxis of all sorts is only responsible for about 18 deaths each year in the U.S.).

Now, if Gates had tossed a handful of peanuts into the audience, maybe then there would be cause to be upset. (And I’m not even sure about that.)

The only response I could even think of mustering:

From now on, I’ll mention to all my friends that they should make sure to die from something that is statistically significant.

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looking closely Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:17:00pm

re: #141 DeafDog

My understanding is that, prior to Obama, there have been 20 previous cabinet appointments that were unable to serve (either because of Senate rejection or withdrawal).

What’s Obama up to? 4 or 5?

You mean 20 prior cabinet appointments in the 200+ year history of the United States?

In fairness to Obama, an income tax didn’t exist for most of that time.

But that’s still no excuse. Obama’s “greenness” is showing. If the guy had ANY serious prior executive experience (not even necessarily in State or Federal gov’t), he would have know not to try to make the hires he did without more extensive vetting.

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HoosierHoops Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:21:52pm

re: #148 jwb7605

Everybody upding this post from Guanxi88 on the previous thread.

He just took SpaceJesus apart, big time.

Well Guanxi88 just quoted from the source in question.. That’s not fair to poor spacejesus…
///

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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:25:03pm

re: #36 OldLineTexan

Those tunnels are a regular goat mine!

There be goats in them thar hills…!…:)

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looking closely Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:25:20pm

re: #141 DeafDog

Was Hilary Clinton confirmed already?

IMO, apart from her personal history of being ethically challenged (eg Whitewater, commodities, etc), effective lack of credentials for the job (what exactly is her foreign policy experience again?), and the constitutional prohibition against her serving in the Cabinet at this time, her husband has taken FAR too much money from foreign sources for her to serve as Secretary of State. This takes “appearance of impropriety” to a whole other level.

Are there really NO qualified Democrats of character that Obama can pick from?

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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:59pm

re: #154 HoosierHoops

Well Guanxi88 just quoted from the source in question.. That’s not fair to poor spacejesus…
///

20 minutes in the penalty box for high sticking with a clue by four…whack, whack, whack…

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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:24pm

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nope. I’m just really good at bullshitting.

You’re hired!

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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:31pm

re: #153 looking closely

You mean 20 prior cabinet appointments in the 200+ year history of the United States?

In fairness to Obama, an income tax didn’t exist for most of that time.

Yes, 20 in 200 years prior to Zerobama. 14 of those were prior to 1970. Between Nixon and GWB, the base picked up…Obama’s record is comical.

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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:30:15pm

re: #148 jwb7605

Everybody upding this post from Guanxi88 on the previous thread.

He just took SpaceJesus apart, big time.

many thanks - it was fun work, and easy.

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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:30:32pm

re: #156 looking closely

I was shocked that Mr. Reformer, John McCain said Hillary is OK at state. Even if she’s on the up-and-up the appearance on inpropriety is appalling. Putting her at State makes no sense.

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winston06 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:42:42pm

Were the suitcases made in Iran?

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Suzette Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:49:49pm

re: #131 Nevergiveup

If they do an autopsy and find the babies lungs filled with oxygen, then I believe they have good cause to bring homicide charges. Of course I’m no lawyer.

From the article the babies lungs had drawn air.

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winston06 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:51:55pm

re: #8 MJ

from Iran

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AuntAcid Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:52:23pm

re: #162 winston06

Were the suitcases made in Iran?

No. They were made in Iwalk.

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capitalist piglet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:05:29pm

re: #77 bulwrk

OT
Did anyone else notice that Obama did the old flipping the bird while scratching his face trick again the other day?

You’re probably gone by now, but…to whom?

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quickjustice Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:12:32pm

After another search by higher level officials, $5 million cash and 1.9 million euro were found. After another search by yet higher level officials, $3 million and 1 million euro were found… Etc. ;-)

Eventually, the authorities announced that the cash had entirely disappeared.

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Billy Hank Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:28:15pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

I was afraid of this. I did some work for the 2000 census. One of the big battles was over actually, you know, counting people versus “estimating” populations. The lefties wanted to “estimate” populations because they claimed the poor were not being counted. These lower counts led to less money and representation numbers for poor people, they claimed. The 2010 Census will be a real rape of America and a great long term diaster. Look for the resulting redistrcting to provide permanent Democratic majorities.

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winston06 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:35:17pm

re: #165 AuntAcid

smart

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LEGION Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:48:22pm

They donated a lot of money to the bo’s campaign- bet they want it back now.

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wiffersnapper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:57:15pm

see, their crimes are just so blatant, compared to israel’s. - habitat for humanity

/sarc

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USBeast Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:21:32pm

And every cent of it was going to be distributed to the Palestinians of Gaza so they could afford to pay for the relief supplies Hamas stole from the UN.
/

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So? Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:31:57pm

/hey, that was supposed to feed the thousands of starving palestinian children

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So? Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:33:03pm

no Nintendo games for Christmas

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kansas Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:33:24pm

ABC News has learned that on Friday, President Obama will likely order the Department of Defense’s Military Commission to withdraw charges against terrorist suspect Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri.

Whose side is he on?

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So? Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:34:13pm

re: #8 MJ

Jimmy Carter’s royalties I bet.

Only trash books ever make money.

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So? Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:37:25pm

re: #35 karmic_inquisitor

Did you see this yet?

Obama to take personal control of 2010 census.

He’s gonna go thru lots of shoes while he goes knocking door-to-door

/or is that dork to dork?

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So? Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:38:59pm

every one is running around with literally tons of money except me…..brother can you loan me a dime.

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jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:53:58pm

re: #178 So?

every one is running around with literally tons of money except me…..brother can you loan me ~~a dime~~ 30 billion so I can pay for my new Jetstream?.

FTFY

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TedStriker Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:20:17pm

re: #45 looking closely

Like he has nothing better to do as President of the USA than babysit bean counting beaurocrats.

Obama better watch himself, because if he doesn’t, he’s going to turn into Carter II.

Going to? Hell, he already is Carter II…

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TedStriker Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:25:17pm

re: #83 jcm

I got the long form last time around. I filled in only the number of people in the house. The Constitution says “enumerate” not how many toilets I have.

I got a follow up visit from one of those temp census workers. Wanting to fill out the rest of the form. I told him how may people where in the house, and if wanted any more info come back with a subpoena.

Poor guy left with a confused look on his face, “I work for the government, you can’t say no!”

Did you tell him, “Watch me!”

;-P

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Flavia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 9:50:57pm

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“Mustafa, how much did we find?”

“9 Million, Sir!”

*SLAP*

“uh, 7 million, Sir?”

“Better”

ROTFLOL!

MUCH better than the way I was going to put it….

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uptight Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:51:16pm

Sure - to us it’s $7 million, but to Gaza’s beleaguered citizenship that’s one Kentucky Fried Chicken “Bargain Bucket” per family.

Also the trickle down economics of all those chicken sales could have bolstered Gazas flagging chicken industry.

Without the vital chicken work, it’s no wonder that so many young Gazans turn to terrorism

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