Amazing paleontological discoveries this week:
A new species of early whale, in the form of a pregnant female with a near-term fetus: Laelaps : Maiacetus, the good mother whale.
An enormous boa constrictor that lived about 60 million years ago in Colombia, nearly 50 feet long and weighing more than a ton: Titanoboa!
Reached for comment, the Discovery Institute issued a statement: “Snakes, schmakes! Darwin led to Hitler!”
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:04:58pm |
I have HAD it with these mothafuckin' prehistoric snakes on this mothafuckin' plane!
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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:05:53pm |
They both look like they would make really nice house pets?
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D. Lapin Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:07:14pm |
This stuff is just amazing, and what is sad is that the fools who believe in Intelligent Design and want to force it down our throats don't understand that the glory of nature and how it got like that is not a refutation of the existence of God. In fact, one could argue that evolution is his greatest work!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:07:16pm |
Looks like the Disco Institute is [laning to do a series of articles on LGF. The first in the series didn't have much substance.
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solomonpanting Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:08:01pm |
“Snakes, schmakes! Darwin led to Hitler!”
And snakes lead to politicians.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:08:15pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
Looks like the Disco Institute is [laning to do a series of articles on LGF. The first in the series didn't have much substance.
Saw it. It was pathetic - Klinghoffer didn't respond to a single point.
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Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:08:50pm |
An enormous boa constrictor that lived about 60 million years ago in Colombia, nearly 50 feet long and weighing more than a ton: Titanoboa!
(wondering how long it will take OR to work in a latina model link)
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:10pm |
Boy Charles - rapid fire afternoon threads, and just as My Novelette was about to break into the top 10
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Kailen Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:10pm |
re: #5 Kailen
Three words. I can't even go three words without horribly butchering one of them. "Dahmer", not "Dhalmer".
I'll go sit in the corner now.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:28pm |
Discovery Institure dispatches field team to look for apples near snake site.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:30pm |
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Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:30pm |
An enormous boa constrictor that lived about 60 million years ago in Colombia, nearly 50 feet long and weighing more than a ton: Titanoboa!
It was designed by coke smugglers.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:40pm |
Atheist Nightmare - "Ossama bin Snowman"
(you can skip the first minute of the video, nothing very interesting)
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:09:40pm |
re: #7 Charles
Saw it. It was pathetic - Klinghoffer didn't respond to a single point.
And the Disco Institute never will. Their playbook is all ad hominem all the time. They'd rather slander and libel you than actually answer any of your valid points.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:10:24pm |
re: #7 Charles
I think he has another article planed for tomorrow. Maybe that one will be better.
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:10:35pm |
re: #2 Nevergiveup
They both look like they would make really nice house pets?
"Dad, can I have a pet?"
"Sure son, what kind of pet do you want?"
"A 2500 pound 50 foot long whole cow eating Titanoboa!"
"Go ask your Mother"
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:10:41pm |
re: #7 Charles
Saw it. It was pathetic - Klinghoffer didn't respond to a single point.
I don't know. God was quite clever in his design of Strawmanus Populi
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hack Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:10:48pm |
titanoboa? sounds like a new Sci-Fi original production... staring DAVID HASSELHOFF..!
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scottishbuzzsaw Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:11:10pm |
re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Discovery Institure dispatches field team to look for apples near snake site.
ROTFLMAO!
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stevieray Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:12:47pm |
Pregnant Proto-Whales and Giant Snakes
Throw in one obstreperous skunk, and you have the menagerie that lives under my shed.
/i'm afraid of my backyard! wild kingdom on steroids!
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:13:42pm |
re: #20 hack
titanoboa? sounds like a new Sci-Fi original production... staring DAVID HASSELHOFF..!
I would pay to see that, just as long as the snake eats Hasselhoff (and his agent, and publicist, and all his "fans")
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red satellite Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:14:36pm |
An enormous boa constrictor that lived about 60 million years...
An enormous b**** lived with me for 9 years before I divorced her, but I digress...
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:14:46pm |
This is most interesting:
The fossil fetus faces towards the tail-end of the mother, and if this was its natural orientation (as the authors suggest) then it might be a clue that Maiacetus gave birth on land. Modern whales are born tail-first, an adaptation to life in the sea that prevents them from drowning. Terrestrial mammals, by contrast, are often born head first. The authors use this difference to hypothesize that Maiacetus came out onto land to give birth, meaning that these early whales were still tied to the coast.
Also, on the fetus:
it was found inside was a female, and this provided a key to identifying the sexes of Maiacetus. It's all in the hips. The hips of female placental mammals are shaped differently than those of males and this is related directly to childbirth. As in humans, the place where the left and right hip bones of the male Maiacetus met on the ventral side created a narrow V shape. In female Maiacetus this area was probably wider and would have made a U shape, which is a consequence of the presence of a birth canal.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:15:06pm |
This just in: Evolutionary science proven wrong again! Dissenters silenced, fired and oppressed. Just kidding, everybody seems exited and happy about the new discovery....
Earliest Evidence For Animal Life Discovered: Fossil Animal Steroids Date Back More Than 635 Million Years
An international research team of scientists from UC Riverside, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and other institutions has found the oldest evidence for animals in the fossil record.
...
“Our findings suggest that the evolution of multicellular animals began earlier than has been thought,” said Gordon Love, an assistant professor of Earth sciences, who led the research group. Love began working on the project while he was a postdoctoral researcher at MIT. “Moreover, sponges live on the seafloor, growing initially in shallow waters and spreading, over time, into deeper waters, implying the existence of oceanic environments which contained dissolved oxygen near the shallow seafloor around 635 million years ago.”
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:15:30pm |
re: #23 stevieray
Throw in one obstreperous skunk, and you have the menagerie that lives under my shed.
/i'm afraid of my backyard! wild kingdom on steroids!
The possum has not yet succeeded in chasing me indoors, but its rustling in my roses has been known to make me stick really, really close to the door.
Of course, it might also be the feral cat, or even the very handsome field mice. But I'm not taking any chances!
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:15:43pm |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
I think he has another article planed for tomorrow. Maybe that one will be better.
Doubtful. The whole purpose of the Discovery Institute is to spread dishonesty, and they're unable to respond in any substantial way. Expect more ad hominem attacks and more misdirection.
I got a kick out of Klinghoffer's amateur psycho-analysis, though; apparently, I'm backing Darwin because I think only "materialistic secularism" can fight against radical Islam. He's a mind-reader too!
Never mind that I was posting on the subject of evolution and creationism long before 9/11.
I was going to respond but it's not worth it.
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stevieray Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:16:51pm |
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MJ Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:16:53pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
Looks like the Disco Institute is [laning to do a series of articles on LGF. The first in the series didn't have much substance.
Have a link?
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:17:35pm |
re: #28 Killgore Trout
This just in: Evolutionary science proven wrong again! Dissenters silenced, fired and oppressed. Just kidding, everybody seems exited and happy about the new discovery....
Earliest Evidence For Animal Life Discovered: Fossil Animal Steroids Date Back More Than 635 Million Years
Typo I think....
Shouldn't that read 6000 years ago?
/////
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nyc redneck Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:17:42pm |
we're not going to get any of these wonderful discoveries from the creationists.
we would only get falsified foot prints of a human foot conveniently placed on top a tyrannosaurus foot print. how ridiculous.
science is making the discoveries. creationists seek to distort them.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:18:08pm |
re: #30 Charles
I would be interested to see a brief response, when he finishes his series.
Though he really needs to stop practicing psychoanalysis without a license.
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Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:18:18pm |
Was that pregnant whale and unwed teenage pregnant whale?
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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:18:19pm |
Last update - 23:12 05/02/2009
Arab nations appeal to UN to help stop Israeli `piracy`
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
I guess the pirates off of Somalia who hijacked that Saudi oil Tanker don't bother the Arabs? Go figure.
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:18:44pm |
re: #27 notutopia
This is most interesting:
The fossil fetus faces towards the tail-end of the mother, and if this was its natural orientation (as the authors suggest) then it might be a clue that Maiacetus gave birth on land. Modern whales are born tail-first, an adaptation to life in the sea that prevents them from drowning. Terrestrial mammals, by contrast, are often born head first. The authors use this difference to hypothesize that Maiacetus came out onto land to give birth, meaning that these early whales were still tied to the coast.
Also, on the fetus:
it was found inside was a female, and this provided a key to identifying the sexes of Maiacetus. It's all in the hips. The hips of female placental mammals are shaped differently than those of males and this is related directly to childbirth. As in humans, the place where the left and right hip bones of the male Maiacetus met on the ventral side created a narrow V shape. In female Maiacetus this area was probably wider and would have made a U shape, which is a consequence of the presence of a birth canal.
And those female Maiacetus whales could really swing their hips. Oh baby, baby.
/I know. I've been single too long.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:18:51pm |
Should we start a countdown until the first troll rises from the swamp to bitch, whine, piss, and moan about the subject matter?
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Aye Pod Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:19:04pm |
OT : The Islamic Thinker's Society (new name for "Al Mujahiroun") art dept has produced this:
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Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:19:33pm |
Because unwed teenage pregnant mother whales is exactly the kind of thing I would expect you to be promoting.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:19:58pm |
re: #33 jcm
That decimal point must be moved to accommodate the Turtle Stack.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:20:27pm |
re: #40 Jimmah
OT : The Islamic Thinker's Society (new name for "Al Mujahiroun") art dept has produced this:
Don't show that to Space Jesus.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:20:50pm |
re: #36 Peacekeeper
Was that pregnant whale and unwed teenage pregnant whale?
I didn't see a ring, did you?
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:21:46pm |
re: #43 Creeping Eruption
Don't show that to Space Jesus.
Too late he can read minds and see through logic.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:21:49pm |
re: #40 Jimmah
OT : The Islamic Thinker's Society (new name for "Al Mujahiroun") art dept has produced this:
He's a secret Jew and a secret Muslim?!? I can't wait to find out what else he is secretly!
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:21:53pm |
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Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:21:56pm |
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:01pm |
re: #36 Peacekeeper
Was that pregnant whale and unwed teenage pregnant whale?
Ahh, a punished whale!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:04pm |
re: #1 Honorary Yooper
I have HAD it with these mothafuckin' prehistoric snakes on this mothafuckin' plane!
Really? No dings? Really?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:05pm |
Oops, another one of those pesky transitional fossils just turned up....
Origin of claws seen in 390-million-year-old fossil
A missing link in the evolution of the front claw of living scorpions and horseshoe crabs was identified with the discovery of a 390 million-year-old fossil by researchers at Yale and the University of Bonn, Germany.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:09pm |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
KT, why was the word "steroids" in there? I read the link and I don't understand?
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:13pm |
re: #40 Jimmah
OT : The Islamic Thinker's Society (new name for "Al Mujahiroun") art dept has produced this:
The Islamic Thinker's Society, eh? I would guess that is a VERY small club.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:29pm |
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Salamantis Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:37pm |
What's the over and under on the first creationist downdinger for this thread?
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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:43pm |
re: #47 gmsc
He's a secret Jew and a secret Muslim?!? I can't wait to find out what else he is secretly!
A jackass. Oh you said secretly. Never mind.
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godfrey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:44pm |
Titanoboa. Striking fear into patrons of cabaret the world over.
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:22:59pm |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
That decimal point must be moved to accommodate the Turtle Stack.
It just a bunch of zeros. 6,000 - 6,000,000 just zeros.......
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:23:24pm |
re: #49 Peacekeeper
What do you bet the grad students - assuming their humor is as loopy as I remember mine getting - call her "Murphy"?
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:23:33pm |
re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really? No dings? Really?
Yeah, I thought it was damn funny to start off this thread.
Oh well.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:24:28pm |
re: #62 Honorary Yooper
Little extra. Cause you deserve it.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:24:37pm |
re: #53 Dianna
Because they didn't find fossils of the sponges. I don't think they fossilize very well. But they did find the organic steroids that were produced by the sponges.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:24:40pm |
re: #43 Creeping Eruption
Don't show that to Space Jesus.
That jackass was busy showing off how dumb he was in the Egyptian Nazi thread. He's got a karma under -325 now.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:24:46pm |
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Copernicus led to Hitler!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:24:50pm |
Pregnant Proto-Whales and Giant Snakes
Sounds like a movie they'd show at a lion bachelor party
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FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:24:54pm |
ot: Stimulus update:
The Congressional Budget Office says the stimulus bill will be harmful over the long term: “President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:25:38pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
Because they didn't find fossils of the sponges. I don't think they fossilize very well. But they did find the organic steroids that were produced by the sponges.
I missed that.
That's what I get for skimming. Next time, I'll be more careful.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:25:43pm |
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oronpam Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:25:51pm |
Whoa, I wouldn't want to clean the litter box for that pet snake :-)
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:26:36pm |
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:26:36pm |
re: #68 Honorary Yooper
That jackass was busy showing off how dumb he was in the Egyptian Nazi thread. He's got a karma under -325 now.
until the recess bell rang and he had to leave.
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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:26:50pm |
re: #69 Charles
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Copernicus led to Hitler!
From the front page of the site:
This site is devoted to the historical relationship between the Bible and astronomy.
All the other pages appear to be blank.
(No, not really.)
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Unakite Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:26:57pm |
Can't be 60 million years old. The earth was created only 6,000 years ago!
//
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:13pm |
I have nothing more intelligent to add to this thread but - Wow that is cool! I just keep thinking if I said "Giant Boa and Pregnant Proto-Whale" in the wrong context I could be sleeping on the couch for a very loooong time.
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:30pm |
re: #69 Charles
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Copernicus led to Hitler!
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:32pm |
re: #28 Killgore Trout
This just in: Evolutionary science proven wrong again! Dissenters silenced, fired and oppressed. Just kidding, everybody seems exited and happy about the new discovery....
Earliest Evidence For Animal Life Discovered: Fossil Animal Steroids Date Back More Than 635 Million Years
They had prehistoric baseball players back then?
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:33pm |
re: #69 Charles
Oh.
Well, I suppose it just goes to show that the internet has room for everything.
It's not just for porn and politics any more.
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:36pm |
re: #69 Charles
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Copernicus led to Hitler!
WHAT? The sun and the planets do not revolve around the earth? Why, the next thing you'll be telling me is the earth is not flat!
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:38pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
Because they didn't find fossils of the sponges. I don't think they fossilize very well. But they did find the organic steroids that were produced by the sponges.
So what's the evolutionary link between those sponges and Spongebob Squarepants?
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Aye Pod Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:54pm |
re: #54 Desert Dog
'Islamic Thinkers Society' is an American offshoot of 'Al Mujiharoun', an organisation that was banned in Britain.
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
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Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:27:58pm |
re: #81 DaddyG
I have nothing more intelligent to add to this thread but - Wow that is cool! I just keep thinking if I said "Giant Boa and Pregnant Proto-Whale" in the wrong context I could be sleeping on the couch for a very loooong time.
They've already been romantically linked by the tabloids.
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:02pm |
re: #69 Charles
Which bible did they get that from? /reaching for my copy....
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:17pm |
re: #69 Charles
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Blasphemer! Everything in the universe revolves around Obama!
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:27pm |
re: #54 Desert Dog
The Islamic Thinker's Society, eh? I would guess that is a VERY small club.
I can see why (at the bottom of that poster) they refer to "intellectual struggle."
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:27pm |
re: #69 Charles
Check out the link on the right hand side...."Galileo Was Wrong:
The Church Was Right"
Ha!
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:27pm |
re: #86 Soona'
So what's the evolutionary link between those sponges and Spongebob Squarepants?
He needed pockets to carry the 'roids.
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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:41pm |
re: #88 Peacekeeper
They've already been romantically linked by the tabloids.
And I read that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have offered to adopt.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:44pm |
re: #69 Charles
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Copernicus led to Hitler!
I wonder what the biblical punishment is for those heathen moons that defy God by revolving around Jupiter.
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:28:47pm |
Our Current CO2 atmospheric is 385-390ppm.
Wow,
60 million years ago in South America,
atmospheric CO2 concentration at this time was about 2000 parts per million.
No wonder only giant snakes and poikilotherms existed.
Sweltering heat, steam room humidity, and lots of tropical plantlife.
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Ben Hur Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:29:03pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
Looks like the Disco Institute is [laning to do a series of articles on LGF. The first in the series didn't have much substance.
"Jewish controlled" LGF, I wonder?
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:29:05pm |
re: #71 FrogMarch
ot: Stimulus update:
The Congressional Budget Office says the stimulus bill will be harmful over the long term: “President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
In related news Obama takes direct control over Congressional Budget today removing it from the perview of the Congressional Budget office. The One was quoted as saying "I'm already doing the census, so what's the problem with a little more paperwork?"
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:29:19pm |
re: #79 subsailor68
From the front page of the site:
This site is devoted to the historical relationship between the Bible and astronomy.
All the other pages appear to be blank.
(No, not really.)
Wait, they'll use the fact that celestial navigation uses the geocentric system as proof.
(It does, since navigation is relative to the Earth, it is simpler to use a system that has the same center)
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:29:32pm |
Is there anything Snakezilla couldn't have swallowed?
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Ben Hur Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:29:52pm |
re: #96 notutopia
Our Current CO2 atmospheric is 385-390ppm.
Wow,
60 million years ago in South America,
atmospheric CO2 concentration at this time was about 2000 parts per million.No wonder only giant snakes and poikilotherms existed.
Sweltering heat, steam room humidity, and lots of tropical plantlife.
Blame the humans.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:30:02pm |
re: #94 subsailor68
And I read that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have offered to adopt.
They just need a girl from Surinam & a boy from Zanzibar & they'll complete the set!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:30:06pm |
re: #86 Soona'
So what's the evolutionary link between those sponges and Spongebob Squarepants?
I'm pretty sure Squarepants proves that sponges have evolved a radical gay agenda.
/World Net Daily
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:30:12pm |
re: #100 Spare O'Lake
Is there anything Snakezilla couldn't have swallowed?
So Godzilla and Snakezilla are out on a date . . .
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:30:33pm |
re: #84 Dianna
Oh.
Well, I suppose it just goes to show that the internet has room for everything.
It's not just for porn and politics any more.
I don't care what you say, the internet is for porn!
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:30:34pm |
re: #96 notutopia
Our Current CO2 atmospheric is 385-390ppm.
Wow,
60 million years ago in South America,
atmospheric CO2 concentration at this time was about 2000 parts per million.No wonder only giant snakes and poikilotherms existed.
Sweltering heat, steam room humidity, and lots of tropical plantlife.
But where were the SUVs?! /
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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:30:56pm |
re: #99 Kosh's Shadow
Wait, they'll use the fact that celestial navigation uses the geocentric system as proof.
(It does, since navigation is relative to the Earth, it is simpler to use a system that has the same center)
I remember that from the old days. Guess the question to these guys should be "hey, what's doin' the revolvin' here?"
:-)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:31:14pm |
re: #84 Dianna
Wait a second, there's politics on the interwebs?
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:31:19pm |
re: #69 Charles
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Copernicus led to Hitler!
It gets worse. There's even a Flat Earth Society out there.
It never ceases to amaze me what people will believe.
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FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:31:20pm |
re: #98 DaddyG
In related news Obama takes direct control over Congressional Budget today removing it from the perview of the Congressional Budget office. The One was quoted as saying "I'm already doing the census, so what's the problem with a little more paperwork?"
Dear leader.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:31:22pm |
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subsailor68 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:31:51pm |
re: #102 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
They just need a girl from Surinam & a boy from Zanzibar & they'll complete the set!
"And these unique collectibles may just be more valuable than gold in this economy."
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:31:55pm |
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VioletTiger Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:32:33pm |
That is very cool.
I can't imagine seeing anything this big coming at me.
Or one of these giant ammonites
[Link: www.tonmo.com...]
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KenJen Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:32:36pm |
I have a huge fear of snakes. Last summer I was returning from the grocery store. Got out of car with bags in hand. Saw that I must have dropped Max's black leash on the porch steps after our walk earlier so I bent to pick it up. It wasnt Max's leash. I was holding a black snake. It turned around and hissed at me. My screams prompted neighbors to call the police. The story goes on but its bringing back bad memories.
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Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:33:15pm |
I'm watching Daniel Pearl's father on FNC. He has an inherent credibility that you rarely see on TV.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:33:20pm |
re: #107 lawhawk
re: #96 notutopia
Our Current CO2 atmospheric is 385-390ppm.
Wow,
60 million years ago in South America,
atmospheric CO2 concentration at this time was about 2000 parts per million.
No wonder only giant snakes and poikilotherms existed.
Sweltering heat, steam room humidity, and lots of tropical plantlife.
But where were the SUVs?! /
They've all rusted away. But they had to be there. You expect the giant snakes drove compact cars?
/
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:33:23pm |
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:33:26pm |
re: #1 Honorary Yooper
I have HAD it with these mothafuckin' prehistoric snakes on this mothafuckin' plane!
Wait till they do the sequel, Sea Kittens on a bus.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:33:32pm |
For a taste of the kind of sleazy misdirection the Discovery Institute trades in, here's Klinghoffer's response to my point that the Nazis banned Charles Darwin's books:
You might as well link DI with Hitlerism because, as Johnson points out, a 1935 set of guidelines for banning books, published in a Nazi library journal, included “Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Häckel).” So you see, one Nazi organ was actually critical of Darwin. The Discovery Institute is critical of Darwin. It follows by the rigorous standards of argumentation which LGF applies in these matters that DI is in bed not only with Islamists but with Nazis — or, anyway, Nazi librarians!
Uh, OK. Now how about dealing with the fact that the Nazis banned Darwin's books?
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Dan G. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:33:40pm |
Scientists find more evidence just when we're planning a further disinformation campaign? I question the timing.
/Big time
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Aye Pod Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:34:21pm |
re: #69 Charles
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Copernicus led to Hitler!
LOL
I've heard Rev Harry Hardwicke say that his congregation of biblical literalists are using wheels that go by the biblically accurate estimation of pi. Trouble is, they don't get quite the same economy as wheels built to the standard pi ratio but they say this is a small inconvenience for pleasing the lord.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:34:55pm |
re: #123 Jimmah
The Lord is pleased with bad math?
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:35:24pm |
re: #106 gmsc
While I am laughing, that's actually pretty disturbing - I do not usually associate porn and muppets!
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:35:28pm |
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BakaRanger Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:01pm |
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:04pm |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
Wait a second, there's politics on the interwebs?
Yep.
What do you think we're doing here?!
Wait...don't ask that of OR!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:20pm |
re: #125 Dianna
While I am laughing, that's actually pretty disturbing - I do not usually associate porn and muppets!
That's from "Avenue Q". Get the soundtrack. It is hysterical!
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Dan G. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:28pm |
Interesting how people bring up the global warming scam in evolution threads...
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:31pm |
re: #116 KenJen
I have a huge fear of snakes. Last summer I was returning from the grocery store. Got out of car with bags in hand. Saw that I must have dropped Max's black leash on the porch steps after our walk earlier so I bent to pick it up. It wasnt Max's leash. I was holding a black snake. It turned around and hissed at me. My screams prompted neighbors to call the police. The story goes on but its bringing back bad memories.
That sucks. I dont fear them, but I understand the surprise. I was in Arizona last year walking down the street, when I almost stepped on a long "stick"." I wore boots instead of sandals from then on.
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:33pm |
re: #125 Dianna
While I am laughing, that's actually pretty disturbing - I do not usually associate porn and muppets!
Kermit does Dallas? Nah...it'll never work...
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:46pm |
OK, here's one for you. I've been having trouble opening up messages in my Hotmail account. I can access my mailbox, but not open up any messages, or tabs - including the "Help" tab, which is the only way I can see to ask for help!
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:48pm |
re: #116 KenJen
I have a huge fear of snakes. Last summer I was returning from the grocery store. Got out of car with bags in hand. Saw that I must have dropped Max's black leash on the porch steps after our walk earlier so I bent to pick it up. It wasnt Max's leash. I was holding a black snake. It turned around and hissed at me. My screams prompted neighbors to call the police. The story goes on but its bringing back bad memories.
Heh! I grabbed a water moccasin at the middle cleaning up storm debris in my yard. I thought it was a bike tire buried in leaves.
We both wet ourselves and took of in opposite directions.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:52pm |
re: #125 Dianna
While I am laughing, that's actually pretty disturbing - I do not usually associate porn and muppets!
Then you definitely won't want to see the movie "Meet the Feebles". Directed by the guy who did the "Lord of the Rings" Trilogy. VERY odd movie.
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Ben Hur Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:36:54pm |
re: #114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You have to love the "Bringing Change Through Intellectual & Political Struggle" line on the bottom of their flyer.
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:37:12pm |
So many species, but so few evolutionary links. hmmmm...
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:37:56pm |
re: #132 Dustyvet
Kermit does Dallas? Nah...it'll never work...
For some reason, the sight of Miss Piggy au natural would be more than disturbing.
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Aye Pod Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:37:56pm |
re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I should point out that Landover is a satirical congregation. (It's hard to tell with these kind of nuts eh?)
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Peacekeeper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:38:02pm |
50 foot snake? And they wonder what happened to the dinosaurs...
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:38:19pm |
re: #123 Jimmah
LOL
I've heard Rev Harry Hardwicke say that his congregation of biblical literalists are using wheels that go by the biblically accurate estimation of pi. Trouble is, they don't get quite the same economy as wheels built to the standard pi ratio but they say this is a small inconvenience for pleasing the lord.
He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it.
Seeing as the biblically accurate value of Pi is 3, those wheels must be hexagonal.
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:38:51pm |
re: #137 faraway
So many species, but so few evolutionary links. hmmmm...
Time makes gruel of us all.
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:38:58pm |
Mother-In-Law #2 believed in reincarnation , in a past life she was a T-Rex...:)
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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:39:22pm |
re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The Lord is pleased with bad math?
So said the Prophit Nancy. So it is written.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:39:36pm |
re: #125 Dianna
While I am laughing, that's actually pretty disturbing - I do not usually associate porn and muppets!
The funny thing is that the song is from Avenue Q - a play filled with puppets! Here's original footage from the production.
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:39:46pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:39:47pm |
re: #116 KenJen
I have a huge fear of snakes. Last summer I was returning from the grocery store. Got out of car with bags in hand. Saw that I must have dropped Max's black leash on the porch steps after our walk earlier so I bent to pick it up. It wasnt Max's leash. I was holding a black snake. It turned around and hissed at me. My screams prompted neighbors to call the police. The story goes on but its bringing back bad memories.
There's this black snake talking to his friends after a long day lazing around......
"There I was laying on the porch, soaking up the sun and minding my own business when this giant person comes up out of the blue, picks me up and straps me around its dogs neck. EEEEEEECK!, I screamed".........
:)
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jjmckay1216 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:40:35pm |
re: #8 Peacekeeper
An enormous boa constrictor that lived about 60 million years ago in Colombia, nearly 50 feet long and weighing more than a ton: Titanoboa!
(wondering how long it will take OR to work in a latina model link)
YES!
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:40:41pm |
re: #130 Dan G.
Interesting how people bring up the global warming scam in evolution threads...
Funny thing is, I find both to be flip sides of the same coin. ID is an attempt to make science bow to what is written in a book. Global Warming (aka Climate Change) is an attempt to make science bow to what Progressives want. They are both means to an end, and the end is more control over society by those promoting them.
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Aye Pod Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:40:45pm |
re: #142 gmsc
Seeing as the biblically accurate value of Pi is 3, those wheels must be hexagonal.
Landover church vehicles don't have the smoothest ride, from what I hear....lol
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VioletTiger Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:40:47pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:40:50pm |
re: #136 Ben Hur
You have to love the "Bringing Change Through Intellectual & Political Struggle" line on the bottom of their flyer.
They stole the pistachio-nut Jew!
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:40:52pm |
re: #116 KenJen
I have a huge fear of snakes.
My mom has the strongest phobia about snakes that I know anyone to have about anything.
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:41:23pm |
re: #151 Honorary Yooper
Funny thing is, I find both to be flip sides of the same coin. ID is an attempt to make science bow to what is written in a book. Global Warming (aka Climate Change) is an attempt to make science bow to what Progressives want. They are both means to an end, and the end is more control over society by those promoting them.
Facts? You want facts? We don't need your stinking facts!
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:41:24pm |
re: #142 gmsc
Seeing as the biblically accurate value of Pi is 3, those wheels must be hexagonal.
Says the guy with the pi avatar....
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acwgusa Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:41:28pm |
re: #121 Charles
For a taste of the kind of sleazy misdirection the Discovery Institute trades in, here's Klinghoffer's response to my point that the Nazis banned Charles Darwin's books:
Uh, OK. Now how about dealing with the fact that the Nazis banned Darwin's books?
Asking them to address the question you asked, Charles? Horror of Horrors!
/DI Morons.
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bulwrk Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:41:41pm |
Did anyone else see Pregnant Proto-Whale and think someone had knocked up Rosie O'Donnell?
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:41:41pm |
I had a few pet snakes while I was growing up, they aren't so bad.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:41:55pm |
re: #153 Jimmah
Landover church vehicles don't have the smoothest ride, from what I hear....lol
They're missing that last 0.1416... of the wheel.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:42:01pm |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
Wow, pretty cool.
If you catch one, it's food AND shelter!
/much better than the giant armadillo bathtubs
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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:42:26pm |
re: #160 bulwrk
Did anyone else see Pregnant Proto-Whale and think someone had knocked up Rosie O'Donnell?
I could see sleeping with the fishes but not Rosie.
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big steve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:42:30pm |
Pite the Osage Orange....armed to the teeth with no one to fight. This Texas tree has thorns that would rip the hide off an elephant. In addition it has an extremely thick skin on the fruit with a very strong leathery outer layer. This tree is like the Pentagon in that it has triple overkill.
Now the thing about the Osage Orange is that absolutely nothing eats it. No creature dines on its fruit or leaves. Probably some bugs like it but thorns are hardly a defense against them. So what ever it was that the Osage was battling, is obviously not around anymore.....but it is such a silly plant that it obviously had to evolve these defenses for some reason.
So if evolution wasn't the trick, can someone give me some plausible reason for this tree. Telling me that it was just created by God....well I would sure feel sad if God created us with all sorts of features that we have to lug around with us....for no reason.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:42:38pm |
re: #153 Jimmah
Landover church vehicles don't have the smoothest ride, from what I hear....lol
(Now, we do all know that Landover Baptist Church is a satire site, right?)
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:42:46pm |
re: #152 faraway
Dems evolved from 50ft boas
Funny, I also thought they developed from worms or other brainless and spineless invertebrates.
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Dan G. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:43:04pm |
re: #151 Honorary Yooper
I agree. Others bring it up in these threads to try and equate them (i.e. "global warming is "science" and wrong/a scam, and so is evolution"). Its disgusting and dishonest.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:43:25pm |
re: #121 Charles
For a taste of the kind of sleazy misdirection the Discovery Institute trades in, here's Klinghoffer's response to my point that the Nazis banned Charles Darwin's books:
Uh, OK. Now how about dealing with the fact that the Nazis banned Darwin's books?
Their logic is so compelling, how can one refute it?
/
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:43:28pm |
re: #168 Desert Dog
Funny, I also thought they developed from worms or other brainless and spineless invertebrates.
No, that's a RINO
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:43:35pm |
re: #156 Occasional Reader
My mom has the strongest phobia about snakes that I know anyone to have about anything.
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:43:51pm |
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:44:25pm |
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:44:31pm |
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Dan G. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:44:49pm |
re: #168 Desert Dog
Spineless and invertebrate? Redundant much?
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:45:00pm |
Gaint Snakes that start with tit...
Muppets and Pr@n
Pregnant whale fossils
Request for hot Brazillian models
The lingering scent of a troll
I can sense it. Thread about to break into full punnage in 3... 2... 1...
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:45:02pm |
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:45:14pm |
re: #163 Honorary Yooper
They're missing that last 0.1416... of the wheel.
You just reminded me of this cool Pi animated graphic.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:45:32pm |
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:45:41pm |
re: #176 Dan G.
Spineless and invertebrate? Redundant much?
I will report myself to the Department of Redundancy Department right away
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big steve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:45:51pm |
re: #177 DaddyG
Gaint Snakes that start with tit...
Muppets and Pr@n
Pregnant whale fossils
Request for hot Brazillian models
The lingering scent of a trollI can sense it. Thread about to break into full punnage in 3... 2... 1...
with that snake I thought it was tonnage
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:46:04pm |
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jjmckay1216 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:46:22pm |
re: #177 DaddyG
Gaint Snakes that start with tit...
Muppets and Pr@n
Pregnant whale fossils
Request for hot Brazillian models
The lingering scent of a trollI can sense it. Thread about to break into full punnage in 3... 2... 1...
LOL YES!
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:46:28pm |
re: #152 faraway
Dems evolved from 50ft boas
Technically you are correct, but further scientific research has narrowed it down even further. Dems evolved from the assholes of 50ft Boas.....
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:46:30pm |
re: #181 Desert Dog
I will immediately report myself to the Department of Redundancy Department right away
Edited for clarity
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:46:37pm |
re: #181 Desert Dog
I will report myself to the Department of Redundancy Department right away
me too again
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:46:43pm |
re: #158 wrenchwench
Says the guy with the pi avatar....
Yeah, I didn't just choose it because it looks neat.
/Is it geeky that I was offended by an LGF avatar that read 355/113?
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:46:51pm |
re: #164 OldLineTexan
If you catch one, it's food AND shelter!
/much better than the giant armadillo bathtubs
heh....or Lunch
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:46:52pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:47:02pm |
re: #166 big steve The aliens planted it for a food source when they were building the pyramids. The same with broccoli.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:47:04pm |
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VioletTiger Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:47:13pm |
re: #166 big steve
Actually, it repels bugs. Folklore has it that it will repel even roaches.
The rotting fruit smell terrible.
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jjmckay1216 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:47:53pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:48:00pm |
re: #177 DaddyG
Gaint Snakes that start with tit...
Muppets and Pr@n
Pregnant whale fossils
Request for hot Brazillian models
The lingering scent of a trollI can sense it. Thread about to break into full punnage in 3... 2... 1...
I hereby dub the giant prehistoric Colombian boa "Pablo Hisscobar".
/kicking things off
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:48:06pm |
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Dan G. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:48:09pm |
For you lingering YEC'ers trying to derail this thread. How do you explain the fact that if all species were created at once, they're not found all throughout the different strata (The Law Of Superposition)?
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:48:25pm |
re: #194 Charles
I like pi.
Me too, but I don't believe that crap about pi being square .... it's just mathematical dogma
/when was the last time you saw a round pi?
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big steve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:48:40pm |
the reason the gigantic snake and the pregnant proto-whale are no longer around is that they lost their jobs in the current crisis
- Nancy Pelosi
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:48:41pm |
re: #169 Dan G.
I agree. Others bring it up in these threads to try and equate them (i.e. "global warming is "science" and wrong/a scam, and so is evolution"). Its disgusting and dishonest.
Exactly. ID and AGW resemble each other more than most would think. Those promoting them also tend to be the biggest hypocrites as well. Look at how the IDers treat people, and look how the AGWers live their lives.
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:49:02pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:49:11pm |
re: #198 Occasional Reader
I hereby dub the giant prehistoric Colombian boa "Pablo Hisscobar".
/kicking things off
And his mate, naturally, was Snakira.
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:49:29pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:49:35pm |
re: #200 Dan G.
For you lingering YEC'ers trying to derail this thread. How do you explain the fact that if all species were created at once, they're not found all throughout the different strata (The Law Of Superposition)?
Well, you see, when the Flood deal happened, the heavier stuff sank faster than the lighter. And since we all know that, it's obvious that algae, bacteria, and plant life, in common with all "simpler" life forms, being heavier, sank faster.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:49:35pm |
re: #205 oronpam
Just want the icing
Are you crazy? Cake without icing is bread dammit. Give me my cake!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:49:53pm |
re: #133 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
OK, here's one for you. I've been having trouble opening up messages in my Hotmail account. I can access my mailbox, but not open up any messages, or tabs - including the "Help" tab, which is the only way I can see to ask for help!
Seriously, any advice on this?
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:04pm |
re: #202 eschew_obfuscation
Me too, but I don't believe that crap about pi being square .... it's just mathematical dogma
/when was the last time you saw a round pi?
Pi are square.....cake are round
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:07pm |
re: #207 Occasional Reader
And his mate, naturally, was Snakira.
Girl moves like a snake with hips, I tell you what.
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:18pm |
We get snakes in our chicken coop all the time in spring through fall.
How'd you like to stick your hand in the upper berth nest boxes to retrieve the days eggs and feel cool slimy skin scales instead of an egg!
The last time I pulled out a 5 ft. king snake, I dropped the whole darned basket of eggs trying to get it unwrapped off my arm!
BTW, it had eaten three whole eggs. You could see the eggs in it's belly. It's body looked corrugated...greedy, they are.
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:23pm |
re: #185 LGoPs
Technically you are correct, but further scientific research has narrowed it down even further. Dems evolved from the assholes of 50ft Boas.....
Titanoboa Sphincter?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:25pm |
re: #209 LGoPs
Bet you don't like meat cake........?
My sister made me a birthday cake, decorated like a steak. Was hysterical (and delicious!)
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:31pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:47pm |
re: #207 Occasional Reader
re: #198 Occasional Reader
I hereby dub the giant prehistoric Colombian boa "Pablo Hisscobar".
/kicking things off
And his mate, naturally, was Snakira.
... who, in turn, sometimes performed musical duets with her buddy Carlos Viper-es.
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big steve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:51pm |
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Aye Pod Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:50:52pm |
re: #167 Occasional Reader
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:51:08pm |
Q:What do you get when you take the sun and divide its circumference by its diameter?
A: Pi in the sky.
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Dan G. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:51:19pm |
re: #210 Guanxi88
You might want to use explicit sarc tags (abbreviated as "/" at the end of your posts), just for the sake of clarity.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:51:20pm |
re: #220 big steve
Do I have to come over there?
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KenJen Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:51:27pm |
re: #156 Occasional Reader
My mom has the strongest phobia about snakes that I know anyone to have about anything.
I wasnt afraid of snakes until this happened. After I dropped the snake it slithered across the yard and started climbing a large maple tree next to the house. I had no idea snakes climbed trees. One of the police officers told me he once found 10+ black snakes in an attic. I had nightmares for weeks. I put the house up for sale. It sold in two weeks an I was out of there. Not kidding.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:51:56pm |
re: #223 Dan G.
You might want to use explicit sarc tags (abbreviated as "/" at the end of your posts), just for the sake of clarity.
You're right, of course, but it's so easy to forget.
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:52:15pm |
re: #200 Dan G.
For you lingering YEC'ers trying to derail this thread. How do you explain the fact that if all species were created at once, they're not found all throughout the different strata (The Law Of Superposition)?
It did take 6 days. The cats kept kicking the fossils into the sandbox.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:52:39pm |
re: #128 Dianna
What do you think we're doing here?!
I was tricked into clicking by the whole Titanboa thing. I need to refine my search terms.
/
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:52:48pm |
re: #223 Dan G.
You might want to use explicit sarc tags (abbreviated as "/" at the end of your posts), just for the sake of clarity.
You don't think I gave them any ideas, do you? Will the density argument be invoked in future threads?
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jwb7605 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:52:50pm |
re: #215 notutopia
We get snakes in our chicken coop all the time in spring through fall.
How'd you like to stick your hand in the upper berth nest boxes to retrieve the days eggs and feel cool slimy skin scales instead of an egg!
The last time I pulled out a 5 ft. king snake, I dropped the whole darned basket of eggs trying to get it unwrapped off my arm!
BTW, it had eaten three whole eggs. You could see the eggs in it's belly. It's body looked corrugated...greedy, they are.
I used to raise geese. You should see those egg bumps.
Geese got seriously noisy when a snake wandered in (bullsnakes).
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:52:54pm |
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:52:58pm |
re: #210 Guanxi88
LOL! I've read some of the Flood stuff. It's insane how they will keep pushing it even though no evidence exists for it. Used to debunk Flood crappola while I was posting on talk.origins in college.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:53:11pm |
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Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:53:42pm |
re: #218 Honorary Yooper
I agree with both your pronouncement and your pronunciation.
Pecan pie (I prefer it cold) is the best.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:53:50pm |
No Kitty Barack! That's MY pot pi!
Mom! Kitty's Barack's beiin' a dildo!
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:53:53pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:54:00pm |
re: #234 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Cake please. It's very nice....
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:54:25pm |
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:55:02pm |
re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Cake please. It's very nice....
Well, we're out of cake. We weren't expecting such a run on it.
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:55:41pm |
re: #231 jwb7605
I used to raise geese. You should see those egg bumps.
Geese got seriously noisy when a snake wandered in (bullsnakes).
We have geese too, and guinea fowl. Both of them are great watchdogs and noisy when you disturb them! They let me know when I need to head out to the coop in a heartbeat. I keep a two way baby monitor in there, so I can hear if there's any problems.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:55:49pm |
re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, we're out of cake. We weren't expecting such a run on it.
So, my choice is "or death"?
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:56:03pm |
Can't decide between cake and Pi? Now you don't have to!
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:56:12pm |
re: #225 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
CAKE IS A LIE!
You don't mean a cake of soap do you?
Because that would be a lye.....
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:56:20pm |
re: #223 Dan G.
You might want to use explicit sarc tags (abbreviated as "/" at the end of your posts), just for the sake of clarity.
Comrade, in honor of Obama, I have a permanent unwritten sarc for the next 4 years.
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Basho Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:56:20pm |
The authors used the size of this snake to estimate the temperature of this region of South America 60 million years ago. Snakes are poikilotherms, depending on external sources of heat to maintain a given level of metabolic activity, and so available temperature means are limiting factors on how large they can grow. By comparing this animal’s size to that of modern tropical snakes, and extrapolating from a measured curve of size to mean annual temperature, they were able to calculate that the average ambient temperature was 30-34°C (American cluestick: about 90°F); less than that, and this snake would have died.
I thought evolutionary theory couldn't explain anything... How are they able to determine the biology of the snake and the environment it lived it from just a skeleton?
/
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:56:32pm |
re: #226 KenJen
I wasnt afraid of snakes until this happened. After I dropped the snake it slithered across the yard and started climbing a large maple tree next to the house. I had no idea snakes climbed trees. One of the police officers told me he once found 10+ black snakes in an attic. I had nightmares for weeks. I put the house up for sale. It sold in two weeks an I was out of there. Not kidding.
Snakes are our friends. ;)
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BakaRanger Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:57:11pm |
re: #188 gmsc
Yeah, I didn't just choose it because it looks neat.
/Is it geeky that I was offended by an LGF avatar that read 355/113?
How about 6,283,185,307/2,000,000,000?
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:57:26pm |
re: #210 Guanxi88
Well, you see, when the Flood deal happened, the heavier stuff sank faster than the lighter.
I've actually heard that argument in person, from an otherwise very charming young woman. The dinosaurs sank to the bottom, because they were heavier... etc. Sigh.
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Dan G. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:57:30pm |
re: #230 Guanxi88
Yes it will. I've had YEC'ers try to push the gravity = density argument!
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:58:04pm |
re: #226 KenJen
I wasnt afraid of snakes until this happened. After I dropped the snake it slithered across the yard and started climbing a large maple tree next to the house. I had no idea snakes climbed trees. One of the police officers told me he once found 10+ black snakes in an attic. I had nightmares for weeks. I put the house up for sale. It sold in two weeks an I was out of there. Not kidding.
I would be moving frequently!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:58:05pm |
Have a good night lizards. Don't eat too much pi.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:58:15pm |
re: #253 Occasional Reader
I've actually heard that argument in person, from an otherwise very charming young woman. The dinosaurs sank to the bottom, because they were heavier... etc. Sigh.
re: #254 Dan G.
Yes it will. I've had YEC'ers try to push the gravity = density argument!
Terrifying! Absolutely terrifying. If there wasn't even the slightest suspicion of a smirk on their face, then you've got a real problem there.
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:58:37pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:58:38pm |
re: #250 DeafDog
re: #196 LGoPs
I like cake
I like beer
Cake and beer. The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast......
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quickjustice Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:58:38pm |
Discovery Institute: "Snakes! Why did it have to be snakes? I hate snakes!" ;-)
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:59:12pm |
re: #260 LGoPs
Cake and beer. The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast......
Cornflakes with beer instead of milk - surprisingly edible.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:59:24pm |
re: #249 Basho
I thought evolutionary theory couldn't explain anything... How are they able to determine the biology of the snake and the environment it lived it from just a skeleton?
/
Screw that. How did the snakes make the Earth so HOT? And why didn't they drown? How come there are still polar bears? Huh? Huh?
/
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Nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:59:34pm |
Mammoth remains found in San Diego
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:59:36pm |
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:59:55pm |
re: #249 Basho
I thought evolutionary theory couldn't explain anything... How are they able to determine the biology of the snake and the environment it lived it from just a skeleton?
/
Answer:
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:00:15pm |
re: #248 faraway
Comrade, in honor of Obama, I have a permanent unwritten sarc for the next 4 years.
Comments now available with
/PermaSarc™
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:00:36pm |
re: #264 Nevergiveup
Mammoth remains found in San Diego
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
It's sad that Rosie died in San Diego, when she loved L.A. so much.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:00:43pm |
re: #249 Basho
I thought evolutionary theory couldn't explain anything... How are they able to determine the biology of the snake and the environment it lived it from just a skeleton?
/
They're just lying again, those scientists. Always trying to trick us.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:03pm |
re: #268 taxfreekiller
.16 gage shotguns and snakes work well together
By us, it was always the 20 gauge or the 410. Snake charmers, the both of 'em.
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:04pm |
re: #262 Guanxi88
Cornflakes with beer instead of milk - surprisingly edible.
Used to have a roommate who liked Mellow yellow over Sugar pops cereal...:P yech!
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:05pm |
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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:10pm |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:18pm |
Would that be the giant snake who tempted Giant Adam and (presumably giant) Eve?
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:20pm |
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:25pm |
re: #259 Dustyvet
[Video]
I have a young tarantula living right outside my bunkhouse...I see it here and there, it doesnt seem to wander too far...thinking of a name
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:44pm |
re: #258 Guanxi88
Terrifying! Absolutely terrifying. If there wasn't even the slightest suspicion of a smirk on their face, then you've got a real problem there.
It'll blow your mind what some of them believe. There's an entire Wiki page devoted to Flood Geology.
That the IDers go after biologists is common knowledge, but they also attack physicists, astronomers, and geologists.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:01:53pm |
re: #264 Nevergiveup
Mammoth remains found in San Diego
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
It must be dozens of decades old!
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:02:05pm |
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BakaRanger Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:02:47pm |
re: #277 albusteve
I have a young tarantula living right outside my bunkhouse...I see it here and there, it doesnt seem to wander too far...thinking of a name
Quentin?
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:02:58pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:03:15pm |
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:03:35pm |
re: #270 Charles
They're just lying again, those scientists. Always trying to trick us.
I'm still waiting for evidence the universe is no more than 5 minutes old and all our so called "memories" weren't simply placed their by a intelligent creator.
/
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Basho Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:03:41pm |
re: #266 gmsc
Oooh good video. I have already subscribed to that channel but because of laziness I've been putting off watching the series.
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:04:06pm |
re: #277 albusteve
I have a young tarantula living right outside my bunkhouse...I see it here and there, it doesnt seem to wander too far...thinking of a name
How 'bout....Deadfucker.
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:04:16pm |
re: #261 quickjustice
Discovery Institute: "Snakes! Why did it have to be snakes? I hate snakes!" ;-)
I want these motherfucking snakes out of the motherfucking Institute!
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:04:19pm |
Have you seen this autobiographical piece by David Klinghoffer? He has some interesting views on education:
But as with any growth, a good education takes unexpected twists and turns. The Hebrew word Torah, which broadly means “teaching,” hints at this. Educators may wish to plant certain ideas in their students, but what happens, in fact, is unpredictable. Ideas can grow in the most fantastically unexpected directions. I believe that a traditionalist father or mother should consider the advantage that Abraham saw for his son Isaac in being challenged by neighbors holding views diametrically opposed to those of his parents. There is a danger in this, of course. But so too is there a risk in subjecting your child to a monotonous upbringing surrounded by mirror images of his parents. The risk is boredom. The risk is also the possibility that the child will never learn how to defend his tradition. When he finds it challenged after formal education is over, he may find that he lacks any intellectual armor to ward off blows from hostile secularists.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:04:37pm |
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:04:40pm |
re: #277 albusteve
I have a young tarantula living right outside my bunkhouse...I see it here and there, it doesnt seem to wander too far...thinking of a name
Saint Pancake?
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:04:42pm |
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quickjustice Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:04:43pm |
It's consistent with the peculiar "logic" of the creationists that they would attack Copernicus. They realize that they have to retreat to a Dark Ages mentality on astronomy to defend their position. They haven't yet figured out that they can't drive cars, use computers, or watch TV either, because those inventions are not mentioned in the Bible! ;-)
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:04:51pm |
re: #271 Guanxi88
By us, it was always the 20 gauge or the 410. Snake charmers, the both of 'em.
I am willing to extend my hand in friendship to any snake that unclenches its fist.
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:05:15pm |
Q: What is the difference between a Ph.D. in mathematics and a large pizza?
A: A large pizza can feed a family of four...
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:05:25pm |
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:05:26pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:05:27pm |
re: #275 Cato the Elder
Would that be the giant snake who tempted Giant Adam and (presumably giant) Eve?
What, you mean like this?
[Link: www.biblelandstudios.com...]
[Link: www.redicecreations.com...]
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Achilles Tang Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:05:40pm |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
I think he has another article planed for tomorrow. Maybe that one will be better.
Where are these articles?
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:05:41pm |
re: #285 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm still waiting for evidence the universe is no more than 5 minutes old and all our so called "memories" weren't simply placed their by a intelligent creator.
/
The taco I had for luch is sufficient evidence that we live in a very old creation indeed. It is also a good argument that suffering is part of the human condition.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:05:50pm |
re: #289 Soona'
How 'bout....Deadfucker.
don't be ridiculous....only a blithering idiot would kill a tarantula...so how many have you killed?
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Desert Dog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:06:26pm |
Here's a "little" guy for you spider lovers
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:06:42pm |
Q: How does a mathematician induce good behavior in her children?
A: `If I've told you n times, I've told you n+1 times...'
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:06:43pm |
re: #294 OldLineTexan
Space Gee-whiz?
Think he's out of class yet? Not that he had any, but, you know....
Ha! I schooled his ass!
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:07:03pm |
re: #295 quickjustice
It's consistent with the peculiar "logic" of the creationists that they would attack Copernicus. They realize that they have to retreat to a Dark Ages mentality on astronomy to defend their position. They haven't yet figured out that they can't drive cars, use computers, or watch TV either, because those inventions are not mentioned in the Bible! ;-)
Just like the strict Islamists, they intend to end any debate about not just science, but the Bible as well. Effectively, it would be the end of modern society as we know it without the ability to use science and inquiry to better ourselves.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:07:37pm |
re: #306 Guanxi88
Think he's out of class yet? Not that he had any, but, you know....
Ha! I schooled his ass!
Good choice, he keeps his head there.
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Dan G. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:07:42pm |
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:07:46pm |
re: #304 Desert Dog
Here's a "little" guy for you spider lovers
[Video]
pretty cool....and rare I'd say
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:08:00pm |
re: #306 Guanxi88
Think he's out of class yet? Not that he had any, but, you know....
Ha! I schooled his ass!
Childish, I know, but so fun.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:08:26pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:08:33pm |
re: #305 faraway
Q: How does a mathematician induce good behavior in her children?
A: `If I've told you n times, I've told you n+1 times...'
Does a mathemetician ever get nonplussed?
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Tamron Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:08:37pm |
re: #271 Guanxi88
By us, it was always the 20 gauge or the 410. Snake charmers, the both of 'em.
This was posted on last night's thread... 5-shot .410 revolver that also shoots standard-caliber .45 slugs. Great for snake country!
.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:08:46pm |
re: #304 Desert Dog
Note, if you are an extreme arachnophobe, DO NOT click on the YouTube video.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:09:42pm |
Documentary; The effects of drugs on Spiders
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:10:03pm |
re: #313 albusteve
Hey now, you wanted a name. :-)
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:10:33pm |
re: #315 Tamron
This was posted on last night's thread... 5-shot .410 revolver that also shoots standard-caliber .45 slugs. Great for snake country!
.
Meh, I hear the rifling's so light, and the cylinder gap so large, that accuracy with the 45 side of things is iffy, while the barrel's so short that the 410 isn't used to full effect.
besides, with a handgun, you can't poke the muzzle in the critter's mout and touch off a round as safely as when you've got a long-arm.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:10:46pm |
OT: Courtesy of Ace:
February 05, 2009
More Evidence of Obama's Miracle-Working Ability
His spokesman, Robert Gibbs, makes Scott McClellan look like a rhetorical genius.
Memo to Gibbs: Not a good idea to indicate that a reporter's question is somehow not 'pertinent.' As you can see, Jake Tapper was not amused.
Cringe-inducing but awesome video below the fold:
(H/t: The Corner)
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:10:50pm |
re: #315 Tamron
This was posted on last night's thread... 5-shot .410 revolver that also shoots standard-caliber .45 slugs. Great for snake country!
.
I've asked several times about that pistol but never a response...I'd like to buy one
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:11:22pm |
re: #322 albusteve
I've asked several times about that pistol but never a response...I'd like to buy one
I'm no expert, but it looks like afun thing, but not that practical - a solution in search of a problem.
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:11:35pm |
re: #298 LGoPs
More accurately - Titanoboa Sphincter Democraticus........
Those are found mainly in the Washington DC area, I believe. The more abundant "Titanoboasphincterdem" is found under rocks and various dark unclean spaces in all other parts of the US.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:11:35pm |
re: #322 albusteve
I've asked several times about that pistol but never a response...I'd like to buy one
And spendy, too!
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:11:50pm |
See you later, alligator! Reptile seized at saloon
Cops intervene after customer brings 3-foot pet on leash to Calif. nightspot
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:11:50pm |
re: #317 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Somewhere there has to be a video of the effect of spiders on drugies..........
Bad LSD trip!
That vid.... Largest Tarantula I've ever seen.....Alive or dead!
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:12:03pm |
re: #321 gmsc
OT: Courtesy of Ace:
February 05, 2009
More Evidence of Obama's Miracle-Working AbilityHis spokesman, Robert Gibbs, makes Scott McClellan look like a rhetorical genius.
Memo to Gibbs: Not a good idea to indicate that a reporter's question is somehow not 'pertinent.' As you can see, Jake Tapper was not amused.
Cringe-inducing but awesome video below the fold:
tp[Link: ace.mu.nu...](H/t: The Corner)
Hmmm . . . I can't post videos right today. I'll try again:
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Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:12:03pm |
re: #285 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Popular Religious timing has nothing to do with the formation of the Earth (I assume we all know that) or of our solar system. But, there are some fascinating arguments over when it was formed. When I was in high school, I would've failed sophomore Earth Sciences if I didn't "know" that the S.S. was 6 billion years old. I assume that today you fail if you don't answer 14 billion years.
If Religion could ever be removed from the discussion, the actual moment of origin of all matter, space, time, life, etc. would be fascinating and endlessly informative.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:12:24pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:12:30pm |
re: #323 Guanxi88
I'm no expert, but it looks like afun thing, but not that practical - a solution in search of a problem.
They market it specifically for defending from inside a vehicle against a kidnapping or assassination attempt, if I recall.
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:12:31pm |
re: #303 albusteve
don't be ridiculous....only a blithering idiot would kill a tarantula...so how many have you killed?
Not enough evidently.
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JHW Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:12:31pm |
re: #315 Tamron
I used to have an old 45-70 trap door single-shot Springfield that I occasionally used for game-bird hunting using .410 shot shells.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:12:55pm |
re: #300 Guanxi88
What, you mean like this?
[Link: www.biblelandstudios.com...]
[Link: www.redicecreations.com...]
Ha ha ha ha ha! Another thing Islam and the Bible literalists have in common.
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:13:00pm |
re: #324 Soona'
Those are found mainly in the Washington DC area, I believe. The more abundant "Titanoboasphincterdem" is found under rocks and various dark unclean spaces in all other parts of the US.
LOL.......
:)
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snowcrash Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:13:40pm |
re: #321 gmsc
That was great. Made MY day. Who is getting reassigned first, Tapper or Gibbs? lol
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:13:52pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:13:57pm |
re: #332 Occasional Reader
They market it specifically for defending from inside a vehicle against a kidnapping or assassination attempt, if I recall.
Kinda specialized, but what do I know? I guess at close-range, cylinder-gap and other concerns don't matter so much. Still, can't help thinking it's a bit odd. Then again, a face full of shot would certainly deter me, even if it wasn't at maximum efficacy.
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UFO TOFU Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:14:05pm |
OT
Shell Oil Company accidentally films a sea monster at a depth of 2.5km.
Today's fun fact:
The penis of the giant squid is the length of his body (excluding head and tentacles), during mating, the male runs the risk of the female severing the penis with her sharp beak.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:14:39pm |
OT: From the blogfather:
GOOD GRIEF: Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband’s Tax Lien Revelations.
Two thoughts: (1) Don’t any of these people pay their taxes? And (2) Is this, like, some kind of karmic payback for all the Joe-the-plumber tax business?
*snort*
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:14:41pm |
re: #340 UFO TOFU
OT
Shell Oil Company accidentally films a sea monster at a depth of 2.5km.
Today's fun fact:
So, the deep-sea types like the rough stuff, huh?
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Achilles Tang Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:14:45pm |
re: #285 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm still waiting for evidence the universe is no more than 5 minutes old and all our so called "memories" weren't simply placed their by a intelligent creator.
/
If so it wouldn't actually change anything about reality, but it would raise a question about the why of the planted evidence. I would go for a lab simulation experiment myself. Why run the program from the beginning when one only wants to play with the end?
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:15:02pm |
re: #323 Guanxi88
I'm no expert, but it looks like afun thing, but not that practical - a solution in search of a problem.
they come in 3" as well as 2 3/4 now....pack a hell of a wollop...some ferocious home D in a small package
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:15:07pm |
re: #323 Guanxi88
Only practical for close quarters self defence!
Most hand guns can be used with "Snake shot"...or in this case"Spider shot"...
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:15:22pm |
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:16:06pm |
re: #320 Guanxi88
Meh, I hear the rifling's so light, and the cylinder gap so large, that accuracy with the 45 side of things is iffy, while the barrel's so short that the 410 isn't used to full effect.
besides, with a handgun, you can't poke the muzzle in the critter's mout and touch off a round as safely as when you've got a long-arm.
It's strictly a personal defense piece. Almost all self defense engagements, and this includes law enforcement occur under 7 yds. At that range The Judge will be quite effective. It will be a handful when fired how ever.
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Racer X Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:16:26pm |
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:16:51pm |
re: #333 Soona'
Not enough evidently.
really they are harmless....killing them reveals an incurable mental disorder...
GUARDS!
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:16:51pm |
re: #345 albusteve
they come in 3" as well as 2 3/4 now....pack a hell of a wollop...some ferocious home D in a small package
Eh, whatever works for folk works for 'em. Just seems wrong, to me at least, not to use the 45lc to its maximum advantage, but then, I'm a traditionalist on stuff like that. Seriously, though, if it's what they've got, they like it, and it works for them, why not?
(I'll confess to be oddly fascinated with the thing myself.)
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songbird Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:16:53pm |
re: #342 gmsc
OT: From the blogfather:
*snort*
I'm thinking we need the Fair Tax system! Then all the tax evaders would have to pay finally.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:17:13pm |
re: #337 snowcrash
That was great. Made MY day. Who is getting reassigned first, Tapper or Gibbs? lol
Obama needs the press and Tapper is ABC IIRC. My guess is Gibbs will go soon. He makes Obama look incompetent (though that isn't a misperception).
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:17:27pm |
re: #322 albusteve
I've asked several times about that pistol but never a response...I'd like to buy one
Albusteve, I use a short barrel .410 rifle, it's actually called a "snakecharmer". I would also like to know if anyone has shot one of these pistols. I just don't know about the lift that occurs when you shoot a .410 out of that short 3" barrel.
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:17:40pm |
re: #340 UFO TOFU
OT
Shell Oil Company accidentally films a sea monster at a depth of 2.5km.
Today's fun fact:
NO CALAMARI FOR OIL!
/PermaSarc™
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Achilles Tang Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:18:02pm |
re: #320 Guanxi88
I'm no expert, but I suspect there might be some feds who would call that an illegal sawn off shotgun.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:18:24pm |
re: #348 jcm
It's strictly a personal defense piece. Almost all self defense engagements, and this includes law enforcement occur under 7 yds. At that range The Judge will be quite effective. It will be a handful when fired how ever.
I was talking about for strictly anti-snake purposes. That's how we used to do it back home: see a rattler, lower the muzzle, step back, and get the scaly sob to strike the muzzle, then pull the trigger and get ready to clean your boots.
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UFO TOFU Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:18:45pm |
re: #349 Racer X
Sorry, maybe this one will:[Link: www.scienceray.com...]
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:18:57pm |
re: #350 albusteve
really they are harmless....killing them reveals an incurable mental disorder...
GUARDS!
Arachnophobia?
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FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:19:02pm |
re: #121 Charles
You never claimed the DI was in bed with the Nazis.
But anti-Darwinists blame Darwin for the roots of all evil, including Nazism.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:19:13pm |
re: #356 Naso Tang
I'm no expert, but I suspect there might be some feds who would call that an illegal sawn off shotgun.
no, not exactly - the barrel's rifled, and it was manufactured as a handgun. for regulatory reasons I don't fully get, it is exempt from the AOW deal
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:19:23pm |
re: #344 Naso Tang
If so it wouldn't actually change anything about reality, but it would raise a question about the why of the planted evidence. I would go for a lab simulation experiment myself. Why run the program from the beginning when one only wants to play with the end?
You are going to have to ask the white mice. We only built the planet to their specs.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:19:37pm |
re: #356 Naso Tang
I'm no expert, but I suspect there might be some feds who would call that an illegal sawn off shotgun.
It's an interesting legal question.
I dimly recall seeing some mention of it... if Taurus is smart, they'd have sought some sort of "no objection" ruling from BATF.
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:19:45pm |
Spider's venom tried to eat up my forehead once. Nasty stuff.
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:19:48pm |
re: #357 Guanxi88
I was talking about for strictly anti-snake purposes. That's how we used to do it back home: see a rattler, lower the muzzle, step back, and get the scaly sob to strike the muzzle, then pull the trigger and get ready to clean your boots.
Not sure I'd want a snake striking at any thing that short...
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:20:02pm |
re: #362 OldLineTexan
You are going to have to ask the white mice. We only built the planet to their specs.
yeah, the guy who did the fjords posts here occasionally.
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Achilles Tang Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:20:04pm |
re: #354 notutopia
Albusteve, I use a short barrel .410 rifle, it's actually called a "snakecharmer". I would also like to know if anyone has shot one of these pistols. I just don't know about the lift that occurs when you shoot a .410 out of that short 3" barrel.
I've got a "Handy Gun". Harrington from the 30s. Barrel is about 10 inches.
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:20:20pm |
re: #340 UFO TOFU
OT
Shell Oil Company accidentally films a sea monster at a depth of 2.5km.
Today's fun fact:
You hear about the guy with a head the size of a golfball. He goes into a bar and the bartender asks "what the hell happened to you?"
Guy answers "well, I was out fishing and caught a mermaid. She told me she'd grant me one wish if I released her. She was so beautiful that all I wanted to do was make love to her so that was my wish".
"She said that anatomically, she couldn't grant that wish and that I'd have to make another".
'So I asked her for a little head".......
ba da boom.......
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:20:32pm |
The "Swedish K" was actually invented by Gunnar Johnsson.
It's the eponymy, stupid!
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:20:38pm |
re: #354 notutopia
More recoil from the .45 LC than with the 410....
Shot shells are loaded with slower buning powder than
Metalic cartridges!
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:20:58pm |
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:21:12pm |
re: #354 notutopia
Albusteve, I use a short barrel .410 rifle, it's actually called a "snakecharmer". I would also like to know if anyone has shot one of these pistols. I just don't know about the lift that occurs when you shoot a .410 out of that short 3" barrel.
not the barrel, the shells are 3"
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:21:21pm |
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opnion Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:21:31pm |
Glenn Beck just had a man & his teen daughter on. She attended an Al Gore Climaate meeting & taped it.
Gore told the teens that they instictively know more about Global Warming than their parents. As an example he related how his generation knew more about racial justice than their parents.
So he is saying that questioning global warming is like being racist , back in the day. At least tht's what I got out of it.
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Achilles Tang Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:21:34pm |
re: #363 Occasional Reader
It's an interesting legal question.
I dimly recall seeing some mention of it... if Taurus is smart, they'd have sought some sort of "no objection" ruling from BATF.
Well, the rifling, but if it is largely a cosmetic technicality.......
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:21:44pm |
re: #356 Naso Tang
Only State/city laws apply to that weapon!
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:21:45pm |
re: #371 Occasional Reader
Brown recluse?
Probably. Never saw it. A few days later my skin started falling off.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:21:46pm |
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Ojoe Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:21:52pm |
I want to see one of these suckers fly (too late)
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itellu3times Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:22:01pm |
re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Discovery Institure dispatches field team to look for apples near snake site.
Very Large Apples.
And maybe some antediluvian giant iPods.
Anyway, if a snake like that offers you an apple, you eat the apple.
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bosforus Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:22:03pm |
Yeah, but can evolution explain the Philosoraptor?
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Guanxi88 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:22:46pm |
re: #383 bosforus
Yeah, but can evolution explain the Philosoraptor?
No, I think that's got more to do with psychopharmacology than evolutionary biology.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:23:39pm |
re: #359 Honorary Yooper
Arachnophobia?
black widows are very common here....I kill them instantly if they are in my bunkhouse or nesting on it or whatever....
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:24:10pm |
re: #363 Occasional Reader
It's an interesting legal question.
I dimly recall seeing some mention of it... if Taurus is smart, they'd have sought some sort of "no objection" ruling from BATF.
Like a "nihil obstat"?
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:24:55pm |
re: #381 Ojoe
I want to see one of these suckers fly (too late)
That was Northrop Grumman's first model .... they were later to come out with the F-14 Tomcat.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:24:55pm |
re: #368 LGoPs
You hear about the guy with a head the size of a golfball. He goes into a bar and the bartender asks "what the hell happened to you?"
Guy answers "well, I was out fishing and caught a mermaid. She told me she'd grant me one wish if I released her. She was so beautiful that all I wanted to do was make love to her so that was my wish".
"She said that anatomically, she couldn't grant that wish and that I'd have to make another".
'So I asked her for a little head".......ba da boom.......
There is this guy who walks into a bar and notices a man 12 inches tall playing the piano. He asks what it is all about and the barman tells him he'll tell him later.
So he asks the barman for a drink and the barman says,
'Before you get your drink you get to rub the magic beer bottle and make a wish.'
'OK,' says the guy.
He goes to the bottle and rubs it and, boom, out comes a genie, who says,
'You have one wish.'
The man thinks about it and then wishes for a million bucks. A cloud of smoke fills the room and when the smoke clears there are a million ducks crowding the bar.
He tells the barman,
'Hey, I didn't want a million ducks.'
The barman replies, 'You think I wanted a 12-inch pianist?'
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:25:13pm |
US diplomat killed in Ethiopia
[Link: www.abc.net.au...]
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Tamron Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:25:21pm |
re: #354 notutopia
Albusteve, I use a short barrel .410 rifle, it's actually called a "snakecharmer". I would also like to know if anyone has shot one of these pistols. I just don't know about the lift that occurs when you shoot a .410 out of that short 3" barrel.
It's nothing like the lift that occurs from a tank's canister shotgun round...
.
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itellu3times Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:25:59pm |
re: #329 Lincolntf
Popular Religious timing has nothing to do with the formation of the Earth (I assume we all know that) or of our solar system. But, there are some fascinating arguments over when it was formed. When I was in high school, I would've failed sophomore Earth Sciences if I didn't "know" that the S.S. was 6 billion years old. I assume that today you fail if you don't answer 14 billion years.
Wot? The solar system wasn't formed on the same day as the big bang. 6b is still about right. First life is what, about 4b? Before that for a billion or so years, it was all hot lumps.
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songbird Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:26:12pm |
re: #383 bosforus
Yeah, but can evolution explain the Philosoraptor?
Wonder who here can claim that worthy raptor as a relative?
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:26:23pm |
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:26:28pm |
Image: brown-recluse-spider-bite-9days.jpg
Aftermath of a spider bite. Warning for the faint of heart.
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:26:46pm |
re: #375 opnion
Glenn Beck just had a man & his teen daughter on. She attended an Al Gore Climaate meeting & taped it.
Gore told the teens that they instictively know more about Global Warming than their parents. As an example he related how his generation knew more about racial justice than their parents.
So he is saying that questioning global warming is like being racist , back in the day. At least tht's what I got out of it.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:26:50pm |
re: #383 bosforus
Yeah, but can evolution explain the Philosoraptor?
It is closely related to the Allahsaurus
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Ojoe Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:27:09pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:27:09pm |
re: #386 Cato the Elder
Like a "nihil obstat"?
I'm not familiar with the term. Thinking of "no objection" letters issued upon request by the SEC, with regard to securities questions. I don't actually know if BATF does something similar.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:27:18pm |
re: #385 albusteve
black widows are very common here....I kill them instantly if they are in my bunkhouse or nesting on it or whatever....
It is my understanding that a tarantula will keep the other, smaller spiders away. My aunt, an arachnophobe, has one (it's her son's), and has not seen a smaller spider since it was brought in the house.
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J.S. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:28:03pm |
re: #304 Desert Dog
Then you get these little guys (in Iraq)...spidey pic...
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songbird Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:28:04pm |
re: #395 faraway
[Link: www.badspiderbites.com...]
Aftermath of a spider bite. Warning for the faint of heart.
OH that's a bad one!
Do NOT look if you are squeamish!
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DaddyG Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:28:17pm |
re: #390 Dustyvet
US diplomat killed in Ethiopia
[Link: www.abc.net.au...]
Darn - that is not good. Prayers for his family...
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:28:27pm |
re: #353 eschew_obfuscation
Obama needs the press and Tapper is ABC IIRC. My guess is Gibbs will go soon. He makes Obama look incompetent (though that isn't a misperception).
Oh please. That's really not hard to do.
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bosforus Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:28:27pm |
re: #393 songbird
Wonder who here can claim that worthy raptor as a relative?
I have neither the claw nor the robe as an evolutionary trait so I guess he ain't my daddy.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:28:41pm |
re: #397 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
It is closely related to the Allahsaurus
The jerk who is "I is the shit" refuses to link directly to pictures.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:29:06pm |
re: #375 opnion
Gore told the teens that they instictively know more about Global Warming than their parents.
Wow.
Just.
Wow.
Well, so I guess if it's "instinctively" understood by teenagers, it must not be science. Right, Al?
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:29:14pm |
re: #391 Tamron
It's nothing like the lift that occurs from a tank's canister shotgun round...
.
That's lift alright...into another world.
It won't help me with short range, farm predator vermin though.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:29:18pm |
re: #391 Tamron
It's nothing like the lift that occurs from a tank's canister shotgun round...
.
cool vid...have seen it before..pretty fascinating stuff
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:29:38pm |
re: #406 Honorary Yooper
The jerk who is "I is the shit" refuses to link directly to pictures.
What a douche
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:29:43pm |
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:29:43pm |
re: #407 Occasional Reader
Wow.
Just.
Wow.
Well, so I guess if it's "instinctively" understood by teenagers, it must not be science. Right, Al?
Algore needs to be stopped. Where is the duct tape for his mouth?
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faraway Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:29:55pm |
Gotta go do something for my little subscripts
/ math humor
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Achilles Tang Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:30:16pm |
re: #380 Charles
Here:
[Link: www.evolutionnews.org...]
Sleazy tone there trying to sound so nice; However I note the following comment which sounds contradictory to me. Does not the DI claim to be secular?
Advocating an aggressive and confident stance in the confrontation with radical Islam, LGF appears to view any challenge to secularism as a concession to the great Islamic fundamentalist enemy.
Given what follows, that seems to be an admission that DI is a challenge to secularism, does it not?
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J.S. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:30:21pm |
Oh no...more CNN love fest videos on Obama -- and on "the religious Obama.." The Messiah has arrived...
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:30:27pm |
Johanna Sigurdardottir, the recently appointed prime minister of Iceland, just might be the first openly gay politician to serve as a country’s political leader.
Sigurdardottir, formerly the social affairs minister, was sworn in as prime minister on Feb 1.
....
“It’s by no means a big deal,” Ingo Sigfusson of Iceland’s public broadcaster RUV told the BBC. “It’s been reported, but it’s not something the public is focussing on.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:30:37pm |
re: #407 Occasional Reader
Wow.
Just.
Wow.
Well, so I guess if it's "instinctively" understood by teenagers, it must not be science. Right, Al?
Now waitaminute. If it's instinctive, they must have evolved it in reaction to some external stimulus ...
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bosforus Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:30:42pm |
re: #397 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
It is closely related to the Allahsaurus
Isn't the original Allosaurus from North America? They must have been separated at birth, by a continent or two.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:31:00pm |
re: #415 J.S.
Oh no...more CNN love fest videos on Obama -- and on "the religious Obama.." The Messiah has arrived...
Genuflect when you type that!
/
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:31:26pm |
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:31:46pm |
re: #375 opnion
Glenn Beck just had a man & his teen daughter on. She attended an Al Gore Climaate meeting & taped it.
Gore told the teens that they instictively know more about Global Warming than their parents. As an example he related how his generation knew more about racial justice than their parents.
So he is saying that questioning global warming is like being racist , back in the day. At least tht's what I got out of it.
Funny, my instincts tell me Gore is full of shit.
Notice how both Gore and Obama are pushing their agendas saying the time for questions is over and we have to take action now or the damage will be irreversible?
Who is the party of fear mongering again?
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:32:10pm |
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:32:21pm |
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:32:26pm |
re: #420 Wyatt Earp
Think she's a fan of President Bush?
More likely, she's a fan of Cheney's daughter.
;)
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:32:33pm |
re: #420 Wyatt Earp
Think she's a fan of President Bush?
I wish I could find that protest picture of a disgruntled woman sitting on a curb. Her sign read "Lesbians against Bush".
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:32:55pm |
re: #375 opnion
Glenn Beck just had a man & his teen daughter on. She attended an Al Gore Climaate meeting & taped it.
Gore told the teens that they instictively know more about Global Warming than their parents. As an example he related how his generation knew more about racial justice than their parents.
So he is saying that questioning global warming is like being racist , back in the day. At least tht's what I got out of it.
I've got a new updated dictionary and next to the definition of fucktard they have a picture of Gore.........
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jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:33:13pm |
re: #92 Killgore Trout
Check out the link on the right hand side...."Galileo Was Wrong:
The Church Was Right"Ha!
Eppur si muove.
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Ojoe Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:33:14pm |
re: #421 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Gore told the teens that they instictively know more about Global Warming than their parents. As an example he related how his generation knew more about racial justice than their parents.
As an old guy with kids, this just really frosts me.
BBL
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bosforus Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:33:40pm |
Allosaurus (pronounced /ˌæləˈsɔrəs/)
-wikipedia
Oh, so that's how you pronounce it! Much clearer now.
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:33:40pm |
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:33:47pm |
re: #394 notutopia
It looks pretty short in the picture. How long is the barrel?
you are right....3" barrel as well...5 shot...had to google it then forgot the price!
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:34:03pm |
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:34:19pm |
re: #412 Wyatt Earp
Algore needs to be stopped. Where is the duct tape for his mouth?
We hold these two pieces together useing the handy mans secret weapon, Duct Tape
Red Green
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:34:36pm |
re: #400 Honorary Yooper
It is my understanding that a tarantula will keep the other, smaller spiders away. My aunt, an arachnophobe, has one (it's her son's), and has not seen a smaller spider since it was brought in the house.
people like them out here, like roadrunners
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:34:39pm |
re: #429 bosforus
Allosaurus (pronounced /ˌæləˈsɔrə ;s/)
-wikipedia
Oh, so that's how you pronounce it! Much clearer now.
My mother thought it was something like Allotzuris.
Tzuris is Yiddish for trouble. I think its prey thought it was trouble.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:34:45pm |
re: #425 OldLineTexan
I wish I could find that protest picture of a disgruntled woman sitting on a curb. Her sign read "Lesbians against Bush".
Since this subject has arisen....
Does anyone know if the trucking company called PRIDE is run by/for gay truckers?
The letters on the sides of the trucks are rainbow-filled..... just curious.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:35:04pm |
re: #434 Dustyvet
We hold these two pieces together useing the handy mans secret weapon, Duct Tape
Red Green
Hey there, Dusty!
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:35:10pm |
re: #429 bosforus
Allosaurus (pronounced /ˌæləˈsɔrə ;s/)
-wikipedia
Oh, so that's how you pronounce it! Much clearer now.
The 0259 is silent.
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Achilles Tang Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:35:34pm |
re: #391 Tamron
It's nothing like the lift that occurs from a tank's canister shotgun round...
.
Perhaps this is what is being imagined
Moron
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:35:37pm |
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:36:10pm |
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Karagush Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:36:35pm |
re: #434 Dustyvet
We hold these two pieces together useing the handy mans secret weapon, Duct Tape
Red Green
duct tape: structure in a roll!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:36:43pm |
The shoe craze continues.....
RAW--Shoe Hurled at Israeli Ambassador in Stockholm
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bosforus Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:36:47pm |
re: #436 Kosh's Shadow
My mother thought it was something like Allotzuris.
Tzuris is Yiddish for trouble. I think its prey thought it was trouble.
Which leads me to the Jurassic Park dinosaur jokes:
What do you call a blind dinosaur?
Do-you-think-he-saurus.
What do you call a blind dinosaur's dog?
Do-you-think-he-saurus Rex.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:37:04pm |
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Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:37:13pm |
re: #392 itellu3times
Wot?
I should have been more specific. I muddled it up with Earth/Solar System references.
The Big Bang was 6-8 billion years ago when I was in high school. It's now considered to be 14 billion years ago.
Either way, the moment that the chain of events began (whether caused by an infinite Elephant, an old white man with a beard, an eternal Great Spirit or a confluence of natural forces beyond current scientific speculation) is the great question. Unfortunately, it's difficult to get back that far (conversationally) without encountering boundaries of philosophy and ingrained preference.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:37:31pm |
re: #445 Killgore Trout
Islamists and leftists are going to cause all public events to be barefoot.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:38:01pm |
re: #450 Killgore Trout
Islamists and leftists are going to cause all public events to be barefoot.
And the women must be pregnant as well.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:38:47pm |
re: #414 Naso Tang
Given what follows, that seems to be an admission that DI is a challenge to secularism, does it not?
The Discovery Institute shills are always doing that. They want to fool you into thinking they're not promoting religion, but they ARE -- and they just can't seem to keep their stories straight.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:38:59pm |
re: #451 Wyatt Earp
And the women must be pregnant as well.
My God ... this will require a squad of studs scoring around the clock. Of course, I volunteer.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:39:26pm |
re: #445 Killgore Trout
The shoe craze continues.....
RAW--Shoe Hurled at Israeli Ambassador in Stockholm[Video]
Oh yeah, it's all fun and games. Until somebody loses an eye.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:39:26pm |
re: #447 ploome hineni
good news indeed....BO is getting hammered and playing politics and people know it....his cred is sinking
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mardukhai Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:39:30pm |
If dinosaurs had feathers, I wonder if that ancient giant snake did as well.
That would make it a feathered boa!
Rump-bump!
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:39:45pm |
re: #455 Charles
Oh yeah, it's all fun and games. Until somebody loses an eye.
Then it's just fun.
/old saying
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:39:47pm |
re: #447 ploome hineni
A little late to be asking that, isn't it?
Gah! The press was so busy slobbering, they never thought to figure the man out?
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:39:52pm |
re: #454 OldLineTexan
My God ... this will require a squad of studs scoring around the clock. Of course, I volunteer.
I'm in! When do we leave?
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Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:40:01pm |
re: #452 OldLineTexan
As good as any other explanation I've ever heard.
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:40:21pm |
re: #456 albusteve
good news indeed....BO is getting hammered and playing politics and people know it....his cred is sinking
I sure as hell hope so.....please, please let it be so......
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:40:28pm |
re: #458 mardukhai
If dinosaurs had feathers, I wonder if that ancient giant snake did as well.
That would make it a feathered boa!
Rump-bump!
That joke made me feel like an asp.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:40:51pm |
re: #456 albusteve
good news indeed....BO is getting hammered and playing politics and people know it....his cred is sinking
And it's only been two weeks. HA!
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:40:51pm |
re: #454 OldLineTexan
My God ... this will require a squad of studs scoring around the clock. Of course, I volunteer.
I'm not putting in any more overtime.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:41:40pm |
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Tamron Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:41:49pm |
re: #445 Killgore Trout
The shoe craze continues.....
RAW--Shoe Hurled at Israeli Ambassador in Stockholm[Video]
Shoe hurled at Chinese PM at Cambridge University, 3 days ago.
.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:41:53pm |
re: #466 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm not putting in any more overtime.
Not a team player. This will be reflected in your review. Poorly reflected, I might add.
/
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:41:55pm |
re: #456 albusteve
good news indeed....BO is getting hammered and playing politics and people know it....his cred is sinking
What cred? Cred for what?
"We are the change we've been waiting for" is idiotic; it's not a policy, and it's not a philosophy.
I'm diving back into number world before I begin to rave like a street-corner prophet.
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:41:58pm |
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:41:59pm |
re: #448 Wyatt Earp
If ya can't fix it, duct it!
If women don't find you handsome, they can sure find you handy.
-red green
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:42:00pm |
re: #463 LGoPs
I sure as hell hope so.....please, please let it be so......
when you surf around it's all over the place....it's picking up steam...his own party is starting to get pissy and best of all he plays right into by ignoring everybody
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:42:05pm |
re: #447 ploome hineni
Might have been nice if he'd done that BEFORE the election.... but it's good to see it even now.
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:42:23pm |
re: #464 MrSilverDragon
That joke made me feel like an asp.
If you start a pun thread I'll have to keel you.....
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:42:32pm |
re: #399 Occasional Reader
I'm not familiar with the term. Thinking of "no objection" letters issued upon request by the SEC, with regard to securities questions. I don't actually know if BATF does something similar.
"Nihil obstat" is Latin for "no objection" (literally "nothing hinders"), and is part of the Catholic Church's procedure for approving books. I wondered if that was like BATF's "no objection".
The final step is "imprimatur", which means "let it be printed", or, since it can literally mean "pressed", it could apply to a gun: "let (the trigger) be pressed".
All in all, a gun joke that didn't go off. A dud.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:42:48pm |
re: #471 Dianna
What cred? Cred for what?
"We are the change we've been waiting for" is idiotic; it's not a policy, and it's not a philosophy.
I'm diving back into number world before I begin to rave like a street-corner prophet.
Crap.
/shoves soapbox and megaphone back under desk
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:43:04pm |
re: #455 Charles
Oh yeah, it's all fun and games. Until somebody loses an eye.
Or responds disproportionately.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:43:20pm |
re: #471 Dianna
What cred? Cred for what?
"We are the change we've been waiting for" is idiotic; it's not a policy, and it's not a philosophy.
I'm diving back into number world before I begin to rave like a street-corner prophet.
Make sure you take off the sandwich board first.....those things really hurt when you sit down.
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:43:23pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:43:33pm |
re: #469 Tamron
Shoe hurled at Chinese PM at Cambridge University, 3 days ago.
.
Somebody is going to get shot doing this. You just can't attack world leaders at speaking events.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:44:08pm |
re: #470 OldLineTexan
Not a team player. This will be reflected in your review. Poorly reflected, I might add.
/
I'm already taking them 3 at a time.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:44:13pm |
re: #456 albusteve
good news indeed....BO is getting hammered and playing politics and people know it....his cred is sinking
I'm sorry, but that's wishful thinking. The One can do no wrong, at least until a link to Halliburton is discovered.
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notutopia Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:44:22pm |
re: #474 albusteve
when you surf around it's all over the place....it's picking up steam...his own party is starting to get pissy and best of all he plays right into by ignoring everybody
There's only so many times his ego can stand saying to the press,
"I screwed up, in one week!
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:44:59pm |
re: #484 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm already taking them 3 at a time.
Wow, you must have a Swiss Army p ... nevermind.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:45:25pm |
re: #455 Charles
Oh yeah, it's all fun and games. Until somebody loses an eye.
I recently came across a bunch of high school kids in public park here in DC, who were building a trebuchet as part of a science project. I opined, "it's all fun and games, until somebody loses a codpiece." Man, that was a good day.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:45:33pm |
This is interesting...
Israeli navy taking control of Lebanese cargo ship near gaza
israely navy Forces took control of a Lebanese cargo ship which entered coast of the Gaza Strip • Testing conducted by the IDF forces on the ship showed that it had minimal amount of humanitarian aid • between persons found on the ship: archbishop previously convicted in Israel for gunrunning PLO
At the very end the show a shot of the cargo hold. Almost empty.
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:45:42pm |
re: #476 LGoPs
If you start a pun thread I'll have to keel you.....
Like sheeps passing in the night.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:46:00pm |
re: #484 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm already taking them 3 at a time.
Good Lord, man! Take a coffee break!
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:46:09pm |
re: #465 Wyatt Earp
And it's only been two weeks. HA!
Although I shiver to think what the next big crisis will be.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:46:22pm |
re: #487 OldLineTexan
Wow, you must have a Swiss Army p ... nevermind.
No, that's Swedish K, I already said so.
/
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:46:25pm |
re: #475 eschew_obfuscation
Might have been nice if he'd done that BEFORE the election.... but it's good to see it even now.
Well, you can't depend on Chris Matthews of HardOn.
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Achilles Tang Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:46:54pm |
re: #394 notutopia
It looks pretty short in the picture. How long is the barrel?
I don't have it hear, but no it doesn't lift much, but loud yes.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:47:00pm |
re: #489 Killgore Trout
This is interesting...
Israeli navy taking control of Lebanese cargo ship near gaza
And given your previous post, YES OF COURSE I initially read that as "Lesbianese".
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:47:29pm |
re: #485 Who Watches the Watchmen?
I'm sorry, but that's wishful thinking. The One can do no wrong, at least until a link to Halliburton is discovered.
stuff in Chicago is still simmering....
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Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:47:57pm |
re: #483 Killgore Trout
The minute the Press/ Left started admiring that Iraqi Ked-chucker I knew it was gonna be the new thing among the Lefty loons. They absolutely live for gestures with maximum symbolic impact and no real personal risk/cost.
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abaleh Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:48:37pm |
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:48:53pm |
re: #496 Occasional Reader
And given your previous post, YES OF COURSE I initially read that as "Lesbianese".
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:48:54pm |
re: #499 Lincolntf
The minute the Press/ Left started admiring that Iraqi Ked-chucker I knew it was gonna be the new thing among the Lefty loons. They absolutely live for gestures with maximum symbolic impact and no real personal risk/cost.
It's gonna be great when some bodyguard whoops the ass of a thrower. Then, we'll see this nonsense eliminated.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:49:05pm |
re: #489 Killgore Trout
This is interesting...
Israeli navy taking control of Lebanese cargo ship near gaza[Video]
At the very end the show a shot of the cargo hold. Almost empty.
ready to fill with sash and Hamas weenies with no more stomach for jihad
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:49:43pm |
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abaleh Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:49:46pm |
re: #499 Lincolntf
The minute the Press/ Left started admiring that Iraqi Ked-chucker I knew it was gonna be the new thing among the Lefty loons. They absolutely live for gestures with maximum symbolic impact and no real personal risk/cost.
Michael Moore says that:
By tradition, throwing a shoe, is the most insulting act in the Arab world.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:50:36pm |
re: #503 albusteve
ready to fill with sash and Hamas weenies with no more stomach for jihad
your sash aint nothin but cash
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jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:51:19pm |
re: #354 notutopia
Albusteve, I use a short barrel .410 rifle, it's actually called a "snakecharmer". I would also like to know if anyone has shot one of these pistols. I just don't know about the lift that occurs when you shoot a .410 out of that short 3" barrel.
Review I read tested the 2.5" and the 3". Said the 2.5" recoil wasn't so bad but the the 3" was a bit much. I see the advantage for use as home def and field sidearm. Using 00 or 0 is almost useless but using 6 or 8 puts a lot of lead out in a decent pattern at 6-10 feet yet won't shred the draperies too much and maybe keep you from having to defend against a murder charge. in re: the intruder misguided yout'. (C'mon you don't really want to kill them do you? Isn't it better that they should suffer for awhile?)
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:51:54pm |
re: #496 Occasional Reader
And given your previous post, YES OF COURSE I initially read that as "Lesbianese".
Iceland is sending arms to gaza?
/
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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:51:56pm |
re: #456 albusteve
good news indeed....BO is getting hammered and playing politics and people know it....his cred is sinking
Mathews hammering on Zerobama's lack of coherence now is quizzical to say the least and more tan likely disengenus pleasd to get ratings, which are in the toilet. Zero never had any coherence in his ideas.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:51:57pm |
Just had another creationist meltdown in the 'Morphed' thread.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:52:07pm |
re: #506 abaleh
Michael Moore says that:
By tradition, throwing a shoe, is the most insulting act in the Arab world.
If they think that's insulting, their nukes must go *pop* instead of **KABOOOM!**
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:52:18pm |
re: #489 Killgore Trout
More info here...
GAZA: Lebanon aid boat held by Israel navy
A Lebanese ship bound for Gaza and reportedly carrying 60 tons of medical and food supplies to Palestinians was forcefully towed to an Israeli port.
A reporter from the Arab satellite TV channel Al Jazeera said that Israeli soldiers shot at the ship, called the Brotherhood Boat, before allegedly boarding it and physically abusing its passengers, charges Israel denied.
The ship was reportedly transporting Muslim and Christian religious figures in addition to peace activists in a symbolic gesture against the continued clampdown on Gaza.
....
One of the passengers was the controversial 86-year-old Greek Catholic priest Hillarion Capucci, who was convicted in 1974 by an Israeli court for using his status as an archbishop in Jerusalem to smuggle arms to Palestinian militants. He was later released from jail by the intervention of the Vatican and deported.
1) 60 tons? not even close
2)WTF is wrong with the Catholic church these days?
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:52:25pm |
re: #506 abaleh
Michael Moore says that:
By tradition, throwing a shoe, is the most insulting act in the Arab world.
By tradition, throwing things at people is a good way to get your ass beaten in the Western world.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:53:35pm |
re: #501 gmsc
"It's total racism," Araf told Ynet. "The fact that the people on board are Lebanese should not automatically mark them as terrorists. There is a different attitude towards international populations because you can't display them as terrorists, as is often done with Muslims."
Heh.
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:53:48pm |
re: #452 OldLineTexan
It's turtle farts all the way down.
HERETIC!
BEHEAD THOSE THAT INSULT THE TURTLE STACK!
There's a lot of turtle stack bashing at this site...
//
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:53:50pm |
If anyone ever throws a shoe at me, they're going to eat it. Without mustard.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:53:50pm |
re: #510 DeafDog
Mathews hammering on Zerobama's lack of coherence now is quizzical to say the least and more tan likely disengenus pleasd to get ratings, which are in the toilet. Zero never had any coherence in his ideas.
it's all about perception...whatever it takes
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USBeast Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:53:56pm |
Just got the March issue of Discover Magazine. This month's theme: The Darwin Revolution Turns 150. Lead article: Are We Still Evolving? Why Humans Are Changing Faster Than Ever.
Well, I know what I'll be doing tonight.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:54:26pm |
re: #491 Wyatt Earp
Good Lord, man! Take a coffee break!
He's clearly doing yeoman labor among the ladies who do not care for sex.
Me? I require all a man's attention.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:54:48pm |
re: #517 Charles
If anyone ever throws a shoe at me, they're going to eat it. Without mustard.
Lefties throw like weenies. And how much can a slipper hurt, anyway?
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:55:14pm |
re: #511 Charles
Just had another creationist meltdown in the 'Morphed' thread.
Who, out of curiosity?
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:55:17pm |
re: #520 Dianna
He's clearly doing yeoman labor among the ladies who do not care for sex.
Me? I require all a man's attention.
Ow. I feel like a giant squid after a bad date.
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jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:55:39pm |
re: #368 LGoPs
You hear about the guy with a head the size of a golfball. He goes into a bar and the bartender asks "what the hell happened to you?"
Guy answers "well, I was out fishing and caught a mermaid. She told me she'd grant me one wish if I released her. She was so beautiful that all I wanted to do was make love to her so that was my wish".
"She said that anatomically, she couldn't grant that wish and that I'd have to make another".
'So I asked her for a little head".......
ba da boom.......
I HEARD it was Michael Jackson and he wanted to be "Up tight and Outta sight" so she turned him into a tampon.
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UFO TOFU Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:56:15pm |
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USBeast Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:56:24pm |
re: #520 Dianna
He's clearly doing yeoman labor among the ladies who do not care for sex.
Me? I require all a man's attention.
Gotta watch you like a hawk, eh? ;)
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:56:56pm |
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:57:19pm |
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Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:57:30pm |
Has anyone seen this little story about Bill Gates?
'There's no reason only poor people should get malaria': The moment Bill Gates released jar of mosquitoes at packed conference
The man is a real a**hole.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:57:38pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:57:39pm |
"Who throws a shoe? Honestly! You fight like a woman!"
-Austin Powers
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Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:58:00pm |
re: #506 abaleh
Michael Moore says that:
By tradition, throwing a shoe, is the most insulting act in the Arab world.
Getting caught fucking a goat, not quite as bad.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:58:19pm |
re: #522 OldLineTexan
Lefties throw like weenies. And how much can a slipper hurt, anyway?
I blacked someone's eye with a thrown shoe in junior high.
Entirely accidental, but it really can do harm.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:58:20pm |
re: #531 Bobblehead
Has anyone seen this little story about Bill Gates?
'There's no reason only poor people should get malaria': The moment Bill Gates released jar of mosquitoes at packed conference
The man is a real a**hole.
Yeah, saw that. Weird and disturbing. Why not just throw Sally Struthers at them?
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:58:45pm |
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Mirage Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:58:57pm |
Who came up with the name Titanoboa? I mean if you read it wrong it could be mistaken to be something about breasts and a long fluffy scarf. (Warning, bad pun but I couldn't resist)
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:58:59pm |
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:59:03pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:59:08pm |
re: #535 Dianna
I blacked someone's eye with a thrown shoe in junior high.
Entirely accidental, but it really can do harm.
I already know you're registered as a lethal weapon.
;)
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:59:10pm |
re: #529 wrenchwench
Hey, wrenchwench! Is there a trick to stopping disc brakes from squealing? My cheapo Schwinn Voyageur has been getting very annoying lately.
| 543 |
DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:59:15pm |
re: #518 albusteve
it's all about perception...whatever it takes
Here's hoping that this pebble starts an avalanche of realization, but I just don't trust that this will be a sustained argument.
Anyway, I can't stomach Matthews show, so thanks for posting the clip.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:59:20pm |
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:59:41pm |
re: #516 jcm
HERETIC!
BEHEAD THOSE THAT INSULT THE TURTLE STACK!There's a lot of turtle stack bashing at this site...
//
At this site? Sure. But in the faraway kingdom of Salamasond . . .
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USBeast Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:59:47pm |
re: #535 Dianna
I blacked someone's eye with a thrown shoe in junior high.
Entirely accidental, but it really can do harm.
How do you accidentally throw a shoe? Horses maybe, people...
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:59:54pm |
re: #531 Bobblehead
Has anyone seen this little story about Bill Gates?
'There's no reason only poor people should get malaria': The moment Bill Gates released jar of mosquitoes at packed conference
The man is a real a**hole.
And then he released a bug free application.
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:00:11pm |
re: #535 Dianna
I blacked someone's eye with a thrown shoe in junior high.
Entirely accidental, but it really can do harm.
If you're going to throw a shoe, throw a golf shoe.
/
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:00:12pm |
re: #536 OldLineTexan
Yeah, saw that. Weird and disturbing. Why not just throw Sally Struthers at them?
The opening of Raiders of the Lost Ark comes to mind . . .
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:00:31pm |
re: #543 DeafDog
Here's hoping that this pebble starts an avalanche of realization, but I just don't trust that this will be a sustained argument.
Anyway, I can't stomach Matthews show, so thanks for posting the clip.
ploome posted it....I dont even know who he is besides the tingle guy
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jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:00:33pm |
re: #392 itellu3times
Wot? The solar system wasn't formed on the same day as the big bang. 6b is still about right. First life is what, about 4b? Before that for a billion or so years, it was all hot lumps.
Sorry to be picky but there WEREN'T any such thing as days then. (see how what we learn as children and how we learn it affects our pov and how we express it even now? I believe this is what gets Charles about the DI and ID crowd. Let the little skulls full of mush get things confused on their own.)
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Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:00:48pm |
re: #513 Killgore Trout
More info here...
GAZA: Lebanon aid boat held by Israel navy1) 60 tons? not even close
2)WTF is wrong with the Catholic church these days?
These days? This jerk was convicted in 1974.
It's so damn easy to focus on a few Catholic moonbats or holocaust deniers. And the Church does not support them. What I'd really like to know is where's the fucking outrage at Qaradawi and the rest of the Muslim assholes and their supporters who openly call for genocide against Israel on the streets of Minneapolis, Paris, New York, Dortmund, Stockholm, and in video after video in Arabic, where they think no one is listening to them.
Fucking Bishop Williamson is a dick, but Qaradawi is a criminal. And I'd like to see some motherfucking international outcry about that.
Rant off.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:01:18pm |
re: #531 Bobblehead
He may be a jerk, but I wish they'd been malarial.
Sorry. I'm a bit irate about the whole "Silent Spring" debacle.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:01:40pm |
A Schwinn Voyeur? Kind of an odd name for a bike.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:01:45pm |
re: #547 Walter L. Newton
And then he released a bug free application.
"Hello, Maintenance? This is Satan. What the Hell is with all this ice?"
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scottishbuzzsaw Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:01:57pm |
re: #524 Honorary Yooper
Who, out of curiosity?
cracker-crusader
This user is blocked.
Karma: -10
Registered since: Apr 15, 2006 at 1:06 pm
No. of comments posted: 198
No. of links posted: 0
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OldLineTexan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:02:22pm |
re: #554 Occasional Reader
A Schwinn Voyeur? Kind of an odd name for a bike.
The seat-mounted camera swivels are a notoriously weak design.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:02:46pm |
re: #553 Dianna
He may be a jerk, but I wish they'd been malarial.
Sorry. I'm a bit irate about the whole "Silent Spring" debacle.
I thought I saw an article about the WHO rethinking its anti-DDT stance and supporting prudent use of it in Africa..... does that ring any bells with anyone?
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:03:12pm |
re: #553 Dianna
He may be a jerk, but I wish they'd been malarial.
Sorry. I'm a bit irate about the whole "Silent Spring" debacle.
Talking about the Bill Gates mosquito stunt on another forum, I wrote:
OK, they didn't have malaria. Did these mosquitos have saliva? I'm pretty sure they did. Proteins in mosquito saliva, even malaria-free mosquitos, can cause severe and even fatal medical problems in peoples with mosquito allergies and/or asthma.
Yet, there's no word in any write-up of this story that mentions the audience was warned about this irresponsible and extremely stupid stunt.
Then came the reply:
I doubt VERY much anything could have come from gates's stunt. if so, you could sue him, he can afford it. and he made a nice point.
My reply:
My best friend from college died at the age of 27 from anaphylaxis after being bitten by a mosquito (he had severe mosquito allergies). The allergic reaction was from proteins in the mosquito's saliva.
Tests did show that there was no evidence of malaria in his system. So, forgive me if I'm not impressed that Bill Gates did nothing more than insure he had malaria-free mosquitos.
Their reply:
Too bad about your friend, but the risk was incredibly low. The people who went to the talk were more likely to die in a car accident on the way there, than they were to die from from anaphylaxis brought on by a mosquito bite (given that anaphylaxis of all sorts is only responsible for about 18 deaths each year in the U.S.).
Now, if Gates had tossed a handful of peanuts into the audience, maybe then there would be cause to be upset. (And I'm not even sure about that.)
The only response I could even think of mustering:
From now on, I'll mention to all my friends that they should make sure to die from something that is statistically significant.
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USBeast Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:03:19pm |
re: #547 Walter L. Newton
And then he released a bug free application.
Old Bill Gates joke: How does Bill Gates change a light bulb?
A: He doesn't. He just declares darkness industry standard.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:03:24pm |
My own personal Spacejesus. Is he still around.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:03:32pm |
re: #546 USBeast
How do you accidentally throw a shoe? Horses maybe, people...
It's faded in my memory. I seem to recall it involved darkness and a slope, and new, not terribly well-fit shoes.
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goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:03:34pm |
re: #538 Mirage
Who came up with the name Titanoboa? I mean if you read it wrong it could be mistaken to be something about breasts and a long fluffy scarf. (Warning, bad pun but I couldn't resist)
The "i" is long, as in "titan," so you're safe.
Try reading a story with the word "titillating" in it with 9th graders...
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Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:03:50pm |
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DeafDog Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:03:56pm |
re: #550 albusteve
ploome posted it....I dont even know who he is besides the tingle guy
Then thanks to ploome, too.
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songbird Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:04:00pm |
re: #532 OldLineTexan
I missed a left turn there once.
That's drive through country for me! I'm in Las Cruces
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gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:04:02pm |
re: #560 USBeast
Old Bill Gates joke: How does Bill Gates change a light bulb?
A: He doesn't. He just declares darkness industry standard.
Alternative answer: He can't. It's a hardware problem.
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jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:04:13pm |
re: #542 Charles
Hey, wrenchwench! Is there a trick to stopping disc brakes from squealing? My cheapo Schwinn Voyageur has been getting very annoying lately.
A little grease?
/ ;-P
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Digital Display Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:04:18pm |
re: #522 OldLineTexan
Lefties throw like weenies. And how much can a slipper hurt, anyway?
Not nearly as bad as a left cross to the face...LOL
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:04:25pm |
re: #506 abaleh
Michael Moore says that:
By tradition, throwing a shoe, is the most insulting act in the Arab world.
I suggest we start lobbing shoes at Gaza and Iran.
Say we're just sending "humanitarian supplies"
BBL; back later
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Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:04:29pm |
re: #553 Dianna
He may be a jerk, but I wish they'd been malarial.
Sorry. I'm a bit irate about the whole "Silent Spring" debacle.
How so?
| 572 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:04:55pm |
| 573 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:05:05pm |
re: #536 OldLineTexan
Yeah, saw that. Weird and disturbing. Why not just throw Sally Struthers at them?
That would be a violation of their human rights. Also, a very disproportionate response.
/
| 574 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:05:28pm |
re: #568 jcm
A little grease?
/ ;-P
For some reason, putting grease on brakes doesn't sound like a great idea.
| 576 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:05:42pm |
| 577 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:06:02pm |
re: #542 Charles
Hey, wrenchwench! Is there a trick to stopping disc brakes from squealing? My cheapo Schwinn Voyageur has been getting very annoying lately.
Try these in order, until something works:
1) Clean everything with rubbing alcohol
2) Change the brake pads
3) Change the brakes
4) Change the bike
/kinda sarc on those last two
If the brake pads have been contaminated, they have to be changed. There are pads made with different compounds. The ones that stop you the fastest are most likely to make noise. There's supposed to be some "magic" spray that quiets them every time, but I haven't found it yet.
| 578 |
jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:06:02pm |
re: #535 Dianna
I blacked someone's eye with a thrown shoe in junior high.
Entirely accidental, but it really can do harm.
well yeah, a 6" stilletto heel maybe.
/pops smoke
| 579 |
Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:06:16pm |
re: #559 gmsc
I am very sorry about your friend. The thought never occurred to me, honestly.
I like your final reply.
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Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:06:18pm |
| 581 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:06:39pm |
re: #563 goddessoftheclassroom
Try reading a story with the word "titillating" in it with 9th graders...
You should also keep them abreast of developments in Lake Titicaca.
| 582 |
albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:06:53pm |
re: #574 Charles
For some reason, putting grease on brakes doesn't sound like a great idea.
BO came up with it first I believe
| 583 |
USBeast Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:07:14pm |
re: #574 Charles
For some reason, putting grease on brakes doesn't sound like a great idea.
Aw c'mon Charles. Where's your sense of adventure?
| 584 |
gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:07:27pm |
re: #579 Dianna
I am very sorry about your friend. The thought never occurred to me, honestly.
I like your final reply.
Thanks.
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FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:08:02pm |
Speaking of lies - what happened to Obama?
Last October, while campaigning in Toledo, Barack Obama called for "a new ethic of responsibility." The nation's economic troubles, he said, occurred partly because "everyone was living beyond their means," including politicians who "spent money they didn't have."
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]
| 586 |
abaleh Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:08:19pm |
re: #561 Walter L. Newton
My own personal Spacejesus. Is he still around.
He's back in the Nazi=Islam thread
| 587 |
Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:08:23pm |
re: #571 Bobblehead
How so?
Try looking up the statistics for malaria-related deaths in the third world.
DDT would save a lot of lives.
Rachel Carson has a lot to answer for.
| 588 |
gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:08:23pm |
re: #581 Occasional Reader
You should also keep them abreast of developments in Lake Titicaca.
And the Grand Tetons.
| 589 |
jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:08:27pm |
re: #542 Charles
Hey, wrenchwench! Is there a trick to stopping disc brakes from squealing? My cheapo Schwinn Voyageur has been getting very annoying lately.
I'm no bike mechanic but I found that if you adjust the pads exactly parallel to the rim, it'll squeek. You have to set it so they get closer together in the direction of rotation. then when you clamp them together they don't chatter. (which is what they're really doing).
| 590 |
UFO TOFU Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:08:33pm |
re: #574 Charles
In the automotive world brake noise is usually eliminated by changing to a less aggressive friction material.
| 591 |
Digital Display Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:08:48pm |
re: #531 Bobblehead
Has anyone seen this little story about Bill Gates?
'There's no reason only poor people should get malaria': The moment Bill Gates released jar of mosquitoes at packed conference
The man is a real a**hole.
Wow..bill Gates carries insects with him..I thought he stuck strictly with bugs
| 592 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:08:51pm |
I did have a guy come into the shop once with Vaseline on his rims, which he had put there to stop the infernal squealing. At least he lived to tell about it.
| 593 |
J.S. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:09:39pm |
re: #513 Killgore Trout
Hillarion Capucci is from the Melkite church (I don't know how that's connected with the Roman catholic church)? (I've heard Melkite chants -- very interesting music...but I figure many are raging antisemites, not all, but a lot of them...)
| 594 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:09:41pm |
A little suppertime wisdom from the Pocket Obama (c) 2008...
"At some level, your individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
Peace.
| 595 |
Suzette Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:10:02pm |
Someone help me....Space Jesus is back on the Nazi thread with no rebuttal.....
| 596 |
Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:10:09pm |
re: #574 Charles
For some reason, putting grease on brakes doesn't sound like a great idea.
No, it doesn't!
It does sound like a comedy routine, though.
| 597 |
USBeast Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:10:13pm |
re: #592 wrenchwench
I did have a guy come into the shop once with Vaseline on his rims, which he had put there to stop the infernal squealing. At least he lived to tell about it.
See, Charles. No worries.
| 598 |
jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:10:21pm |
re: #592 wrenchwench
I did have a guy come into the shop once with Vaseline on his rims, which he had put there to stop the infernal squealing. At least he lived to tell about it.
YOW! I was kidding with Charles. Somebody really did that?
| 599 |
Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:10:28pm |
re: #581 Occasional Reader
You should also keep them abreast of developments in Lake Titicaca.
Or the Titesee in Germany.
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coquimbojoe Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:10:36pm |
re: #559 gmsc
Too bad he didn't open the jar and say 'If we had DDT these would be a problem and millions of people would be alive today". But, you have to respect the man for trying to put his money to good use, or perhaps, putting it where his mouth is.
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:10:53pm |
re: #589 jcw46
I'm no bike mechanic but I found that if you adjust the pads exactly parallel to the rim, it'll squeek. You have to set it so they get closer together in the direction of rotation. then when you clamp them together they don't chatter. (which is what they're really doing).
That's exactly right, for rim brakes. Disc brakes don't have that kind of adjustability.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:10:59pm |
re: #556 scottishbuzzsaw
cracker-crusader
This user is blocked.
Karma: -10
Registered since: Apr 15, 2006 at 1:06 pmNo. of comments posted: 198
No. of links posted: 0
Yep. He said I was out of my depth and didn't understand what a scientific debate was all about, then proceeded to tell me to "bugger off" and "rot in hell," and informed me I was just like a mullah.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:11:16pm |
| 604 |
coquimbojoe Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:11:18pm |
re: #574 Charles
For some reason, putting grease on brakes doesn't sound like a great idea.
Ya don't know til ya tried it....
Just sayin'
| 605 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:11:21pm |
re: #594 Walter L. Newton
A little suppertime wisdom from the Pocket Obama (c) 2008...
"At some level, your individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
PeacePiss be upon you.
FIFY
:)
| 606 |
Suzette Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:12:10pm |
re: #602 Charles
Yep. He said I was out of my depth and didn't understand what a scientific debate was all about, then proceeded to tell me to "bugger off" and "rot in hell," and informed me I was just like a mullah.
Why did he even come to this blog...just to throw insults....
/*spits*
| 607 |
Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:12:25pm |
re: #595 Suzette
Someone help me....Space Jesus is back on the Nazi thread with no rebuttal.....
Walter. He's all yours.
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jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:12:48pm |
re: #590 UFO TOFU
In the automotive world brake noise is usually eliminated by changing to a less aggressive friction material.
or a special material behind the pad where it contacts the caliper frame or piston.
btw the taper is only slight. I did it on mine and reduced the squeaking by a half or more.
| 609 |
Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:12:56pm |
re: #587 Dianna
Try looking up the statistics for malaria-related deaths in the third world.
DDT would save a lot of lives.
Rachel Carson has a lot to answer for.
I was hoping that's what you meant. That law of unintended consequences played out with the ban on DDT. Millions of lives have been lost. DDT is the single best agent for killing mosquitoes. Another example of liberal policy hurting those they claim to stand up for.
| 610 |
Digital Display Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:12:57pm |
re: #575 songbird
Hello {HoosierHoops}
Packing going slowly here on the southwestern front.
{Songbird} Moving is our greatest curse..yet the gateway to a new life and home..Hang in there friend...
| 611 |
coquimbojoe Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:13:01pm |
re: #602 Charles
Yep. He said I was out of my depth and didn't understand what a scientific debate was all about, then proceeded to tell me to "bugger off" and "rot in hell," and informed me I was just like a mullah.
I have always considered you more of a wallah than a mullah.
| 612 |
albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:13:28pm |
re: #595 Suzette
Someone help me....Space Jesus is back on the Nazi thread with no rebuttal.....
hahaha....so what?
| 613 |
yochanan Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:13:41pm |
re: #601 wrenchwench
That's exactly right, for rim brakes. Disc brakes don't have that kind of adjustability.
the noise is a good thing it warns the slow moving walking people that your are a scorcher riding on the side walk.
| 614 |
Digital Display Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:14:07pm |
re: #595 Suzette
Someone help me....Space Jesus is back on the Nazi thread with no rebuttal.....
He's back? I need to go back and throw my shoes at him...
| 615 |
avanti Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:14:10pm |
| 616 |
Suzette Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:14:19pm |
| 617 |
Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:14:24pm |
re: #594 Walter L. Newton
A little suppertime wisdom from the Pocket Obama (c) 2008...
"At some level, your individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
Peace.
Thank you Walter. My day has been transformed. Keep those bits of wisdom coming.
| 618 |
UFO TOFU Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:14:36pm |
re: #608 jcw46
I was going to suggest that perhaps the caliper could be shimmed to accomplish your suggestion.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:14:39pm |
just like a mullah....
sounds like a Dylan tune
| 620 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:14:41pm |
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Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:14:43pm |
| 622 |
Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:15:16pm |
| 623 |
jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:15:22pm |
re: #601 wrenchwench
That's exactly right, for rim brakes. Disc brakes don't have that kind of adjustability.
Oh. this bike has DISK BRAKES? wow. well then put some kind of deadening material between the pad and the caliper frame or piston. No?
| 624 |
albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:15:41pm |
| 628 |
albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:16:44pm |
| 629 |
jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:17:08pm |
re: #603 Dianna
No, that would have put his eye out.
This was a good, solid brogue.
ah you mean like a Matrix Trinity lace-up, 2" rubber heel kinda shoe?
| 630 |
gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:17:22pm |
| 631 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:17:23pm |
re: #620 Walter L. Newton
That quote was really in the book.
Scary shit. What the fuck does this guy think he is, a shaman?
| 632 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:17:38pm |
re: #617 Bobblehead
Thank you Walter. My day has been transformed. Keep those bits of wisdom coming.
I will. Eventually, if everyone here simply takes that wisdom to heart, there will be no need for blogs, debates, differences of opinions, fighting, wars, physical violence, really no need for any sort of interaction that could be injurious to our fellow earthlings.
| 633 |
Suzette Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:17:51pm |
re: #624 albusteve
Never said you were annoying....
/just let it chew up the thread.
| 634 |
Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:18:37pm |
| 635 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:18:45pm |
re: #631 LGoPs
Scary shit. What the fuck does this guy think he is, a shaman?
Er, no. A Marxist (I thought he was making that clear).
| 636 |
J.S. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:18:51pm |
re: #622 Dianna
thank you for that link. (Although, I don't know about how the two really link up either...) Do note that the official language of the Melkite church is Arabic...(the chants I heard were in Arabic...)
| 637 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:19:08pm |
re: #602 Charles
Yep. He said I was out of my depth and didn't understand what a scientific debate was all about, then proceeded to tell me to "bugger off" and "rot in hell," and informed me I was just like a mullah.
Oh the pain you must have suffered, Charles.
j/k
Those of us who have been likened to Hitler by morons are numb to it.
| 638 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:19:14pm |
re: #632 Walter L. Newton
I know people were trying to look into whether this book is legit or no.
Any feedback that you've seen? I haven't........
| 639 |
albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:19:21pm |
re: #633 Suzette
Never said you were annoying....
/just let it chew up the thread.
seriously ignoring him is a good strategy to prevent him annoying you
| 640 |
Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:19:27pm |
re: #629 jcw46
ah you mean like a Matrix Trinity lace-up, 2" rubber heel kinda shoe?
I think there was a buckle involved, but I won't swear to it.
Junior high was a very long time ago.
| 641 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:19:43pm |
re: #577 wrenchwench
Try these in order, until something works:
1) Clean everything with rubbing alcohol
2) Change the brake pads
3) Change the brakes
4) Change the bike
/kinda sarc on those last two
If the brake pads have been contaminated, they have to be changed. There are pads made with different compounds. The ones that stop you the fastest are most likely to make noise. There's supposed to be some "magic" spray that quiets them every time, but I haven't found it yet.
Thanks - I'll try cleaning. I've been wiping them down, but without rubbing alcohol. I haven't ridden it so much that the pads should need to be changed yet, but if cleaning doesn't work I'll try that.
| 642 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:20:38pm |
re: #638 LGoPs
I know people were trying to look into whether this book is legit or no. Any feedback that you've seen? I haven't........
I can't find anything on the internet. It's really not making that big of a splash and I am not going to spend any more money trying to make phone calls or anything.
Besides, if everyone here simply takes that wisdom to heart, there will be no need for blogs, debates, differences of opinions, fighting, wars, physical violence, really no need for any sort of interaction that could be injurious to our fellow earthlings.
| 643 |
Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:21:11pm |
re: #632 Walter L. Newton
I will. Eventually, if everyone here simply takes that wisdom to heart, there will be no need for blogs, debates, differences of opinions, fighting, wars, physical violence, really no need for any sort of interaction that could be injurious to our fellow earthlings.
Inspiring. I feel a golden aura starting to radiate from my head ,much the same as our Dear Leader's.
| 644 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:21:21pm |
re: #593 J.S.
Archbishop Hilarion Capucci
The Vatican sprung him from Israeli prison. I can't figure out if he's still a Bishop.
| 645 |
Cato the Elder Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:21:28pm |
re: #595 Suzette
Someone help me....Space Jesus is back on the Nazi thread with no rebuttal.....
I'm already on it.
Sorry for my outburst above, folks. I've been thinking about that all day long.
| 646 |
Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:21:49pm |
re: #638 LGoPs
I know people were trying to look into whether this book is legit or no.
Any feedback that you've seen? I haven't........
From just the little bit that Walter has shared with us, it sounds like the rhetoric we heard during the campaign.
| 647 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:21:59pm |
re: #642 Walter L. Newton
I can't find anything on the internet. It's really not making that big of a splash and I am not going to spend any more money trying to make phone calls or anything.
Besides, if everyone here simply takes that wisdom to heart, there will be no need for blogs, debates, differences of opinions, fighting, wars, physical violence, really no need for any sort of interaction that could be injurious to our fellow earthlings.
I know, I know. you said that already.......
:)
| 648 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:22:00pm |
re: #643 Bobblehead
Inspiring. I feel a golden aura starting to radiate from my head ,much the same as our Dear Leader's.
Did you make it to the toilet in time?
| 649 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:23:11pm |
re: #647 LGoPs
I know, I know. you said that already.......
:)
Repetition is the mother of all propaganda. Understand? Repetition is the mother of all propaganda. Understand? Repet...
| 650 |
jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:24:25pm |
re: #649 Walter L. Newton
Repetition is the mother of all propaganda. Understand? Repetition is the mother of all propaganda. Understand? Repet...
What?
| 651 |
J.S. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:24:35pm |
re: #644 Killgore Trout
Yeah, I wonder what authority the pope would have over the Melkite church (I haven't got a clue -- although I suspect he'll still be a bishop..) I first heard about this guy from a footnote in the text, "Why the Jews" (regarding antisemitism, etc.)...
| 652 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:25:02pm |
I'm beginning to wonder whether repetition is the mother of all propoganda.
| 653 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:26:40pm |
re: #651 J.S.
Yeah, I wonder what authority the pope would have over the Melkite church (I haven't got a clue -- although I suspect he'll still be a bishop..) I first heard about this guy from a footnote in the text, "Why the Jews" (regarding antisemitism, etc.)...
If I'm correct, Robert Spencer is a Melkite.
| 654 |
screaming_eagle Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:26:42pm |
re: #652 J.D.
I'm beginning to wonder whether repetition is the mother of all propoganda.
I think repetition just might be propoganda. Maybe even effective
| 655 |
vxbush Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:26:57pm |
Okay, I'm very late to the thread (but I have a good excuse, honest):
But some lizards may be interested in this paper, which to my knowledge has never been published, so take it with a grain of salt:
On The Rabbinical Exegesis of an Enhanced Biblical Value of Pi
The author compares the oral versus the written values and comes up with some interesting results.
| 656 |
Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:26:58pm |
re: #648 Walter L. Newton
Did you make it to the toilet in time?
Yes and I didn't even need to flip the light switch(thus saving our planet from the effects of a wasteful incandescent light bulb) because my halo is so bright. Soon our halos will light the world.
| 657 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:27:22pm |
re: #654 screaming_eagle
I think repetition just might be propoganda. Maybe even effective
I'm pretty sure you're right about that.
| 658 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:27:33pm |
re: #641 Charles
OK, I found the "magic" spray: Disc Brake Silencer. And here's a list of distributors for that brand (but not necessarily that product). If you find it and try it, let me know whether it is satisfactory.
| 659 |
Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:27:52pm |
re: #652 J.D.
I'm beginning to wonder whether repetition is the mother of all propoganda.
I don't know about that but repetition is the mother of all progaganda; repetition is..............
| 660 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:28:27pm |
Hey, If it works for them, it can work for us........repeat after me:
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
| 662 |
avanti Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:29:16pm |
re: #594 Walter L. Newton
A little suppertime wisdom from the Pocket Obama (c) 2008...
"At some level, your individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
Peace.
He did say just that at a commence address suggesting that service to others was a worthy goal. In context, sounds pretty Christian or liberal :
"Each of you will have the chance to make your own discovery in the years to come. And I say “chance” because you won’t have to take it. There’s no community service requirement in the real world; no one forcing you to care. You can take your diploma, walk off this stage, and chase only after the big house and the nice suits and all the other things that our money culture says you should by. You can choose to narrow your concerns and live your life in a way that tries to keep your story separate from America’s.
But I hope you don’t. Not because you have an obligation to those who are less fortunate, though you do have that obligation. Not because you have a debt to all those who helped you get here, though you do have that debt.
It’s because you have an obligation to yourself. Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation.Because thinking only about yourself, fulfilling your immediate wants and needs, betrays a poverty of ambition. Because it’s only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential and discover the role you’ll play in writing the next great chapter in America’s story."
| 663 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:29:33pm |
re: #651 J.S.
The Melkite Greek Catholic Church (Arabic: كنيسة الروم الكاثوليك, Kanīsät ar-Rūm al-Kāṯūlīk) is an Eastern Rite sui juris particular Church of the Catholic Church in communion with the Pope of Rome.
It's an interesting read but they are still a franchise (or subsidiary) of the Catholic church.
| 664 |
Lincolntf Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:29:38pm |
Curious
What do you guys think?
Is this guy an American "hostage"or a criminal rightly jailed? Something about this story reeks of a Brad Thor thriller.
| 665 |
screaming_eagle Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:30:08pm |
re: #649 Walter L. Newton
Repetition is the mother of all propaganda. Understand? Repetition is the mother of all propaganda. Understand? Repet...
Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.
Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.
I'm not sure it's a two way street.
| 666 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:31:32pm |
re: #662 avanti
And your point is? I'm asking, because parroting Obama doesn't tell me a thing about what you think, er, can that. Maybe it does?
| 667 |
Sharmuta Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:31:37pm |
Organic life beneath the shoreless waves
Was born and nurs'd in ocean's pearly caves;
First forms minute, unseen by spheric glass,
Move on the mud, or pierce the watery mass;
These, as successive generations bloom,
New powers acquire and larger limbs assume;
Whence countless groups of vegetation spring,
And breathing realms of fin and feet and wing.
-Erasmus Darwin, Temple of Nature
| 669 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:31:44pm |
re: #660 LGoPs
I want verification that they paid all the penalties and interest...the ones that did pay...
Oh! And Rangel’s Financial Disclosures Omitted Data Over 30 Years, a Report Says.
| 670 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:32:17pm |
re: #662 avanti
Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation.
And you still don't see him as a collectivist? He's for the opposite of the rugged individual.
| 671 |
Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:33:08pm |
re: #665 screaming_eagle
Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.
Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.I'm not sure it's a two way street.
Nope can't say it, it's like when Fonzie had trouble saying the words, "I was wr..."
| 672 |
J.S. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:33:15pm |
re: #653 Walter L. Newton
Wow, that's interesting (if you read his works, there's always that undercurrent -- like something really, really bad happened to his family, and the perps were Muslim -- that's what I get -- just my speculation, though...)
| 673 |
jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:33:17pm |
re: #641 Charles
Thanks - I'll try cleaning. I've been wiping them down, but without rubbing alcohol. I haven't ridden it so much that the pads should need to be changed yet, but if cleaning doesn't work I'll try that.
I'm confused. The voyageurs I've looked up on the web don't have disc brakes. what am I missing here?
( no, no not my marbles. I have them all together in a nice little pouch so that when I need to I can take them out and play with them)
| 674 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:33:33pm |
re: #658 wrenchwench
OK, I found the "magic" spray: Disc Brake Silencer. And here's a list of distributors for that brand (but not necessarily that product). If you find it and try it, let me know whether it is satisfactory.
Interesting, thanks. I'll check it out. Looks like the only North America distributor is in Canada so it may be hard to find...
| 676 |
jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:33:56pm |
re: #665 screaming_eagle
Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.
Obama is a great President. Obama is a great President.I'm not sure it's a two way street.
Sing along....
| 677 |
avanti Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:34:13pm |
re: #658 wrenchwench
OK, I found the "magic" spray: Disc Brake Silencer. And here's a list of distributors for that brand (but not necessarily that product). If you find it and try it, let me know whether it is satisfactory.
You'll find several brands at any parts store, it works just fine. As a bit of triva, I just used it last week on the first American car to have disk brakes, a 1963 Studebaker Avanti.
| 678 |
Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:34:27pm |
re: #674 Charles
Interesting, thanks. I'll check it out. Looks like the only North America distributor is in Canada so it may be hard to find...
Have you tried the Saskatoon Yellow Pages...:)
| 679 |
gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:34:44pm |
re: #667 Sharmuta
Organic life beneath the shoreless waves
Was born and nurs'd in ocean's pearly caves;
First forms minute, unseen by spheric glass,
Move on the mud, or pierce the watery mass;
These, as successive generations bloom,
New powers acquire and larger limbs assume;
Whence countless groups of vegetation spring,
And breathing realms of fin and feet and wing.-Erasmus Darwin, Temple of Nature
Not only was Erasmus Darwin Charles Darwin's father, but Josiah Wedgwood's (the man who started Wedgwood's pottery) son-in-law, too!
| 680 |
Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:34:44pm |
re: #663 Killgore Trout
I don't think that's right, KT, because of the phrase "sui juris."
My Latin's getting rustier by the week, but I think that means "of one's own right". I believe that would mean that while the Melkites are in communion, they are not under the rule of the Roman Catholic Church.
| 681 |
Stonemason Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:35:25pm |
re: #662 avanti
And those are the same empty platitudes that have graced commencement speeches since the first one was given. If he was so wonderful he might have tried to say something different, like, I don't know...how about:
If you cheat on your taxes you have a spot in my cabinet!
As for the actual quote, that is BS, my salvation is mine alone, and what I CHOOSE to do with my life is my choice, not his, and not societies.
| 682 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:35:28pm |
re: #673 jcw46
I'm confused. The voyageurs I've looked up on the web don't have disc brakes. what am I missing here?
[Link: www.performancebike.com...]
| 683 |
Ojoe Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:35:41pm |
re: #542 Charles
Well regular old rim brakes are also disc brakes, and if you toe the brake blocks in, they won't squeal, so maybe there is a similar thing you can do to the disc pads.
| 684 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:37:31pm |
re: #660 LGoPs
Hey, If it works for them, it can work for us........repeat after me:
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Democrats don't pay their taxes........
Hate to quote myself but since paying your taxes has been labeled patriotic by no less than the VPOTUS.......
IS IT OK NOW FOR US TO CALL THEM FUCKING UNPATRIOTIC!
| 685 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:37:42pm |
re: #674 Charles
Interesting, thanks. I'll check it out. Looks like the only North America distributor is in Canada so it may be hard to find...
Scroll down, there are a bunch of California retailers listed.
| 687 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:38:06pm |
re: #677 avanti
You'll find several brands at any parts store, it works just fine. As a bit of triva, I just used it last week on the first American car to have disk brakes, a 1963 Studebaker Avanti.
From what I've been reading, it's a bad idea to use automotive anti-squeal sprays on bike disc brakes.
| 688 |
FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:38:11pm |
stimulus sham update:
The Senate Democrats defeated a series of amendments by Republicans late on Wednesday night to delete mainly spending items from the bill.
| 689 |
Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:38:12pm |
re: #684 LGoPs
Hate to quote myself but since paying your taxes has been labeled patriotic by no less than the VPOTUS.......
IS IT OK NOW FOR US TO CALL THEM FUCKING UNPATRIOTIC!
"To Bleat Or Not to Bleat."
| 690 |
Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:38:32pm |
re: #684 LGoPs
Hate to quote myself but since paying your taxes has been labeled patriotic by no less than the VPOTUS.......
IS IT OK NOW FOR US TO CALL THEM FUCKING UNPATRIOTIC!
Go right ahead.
Dissent is patriotic, so I've heard.
| 691 |
vxbush Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:40:04pm |
re: #690 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Go right ahead.
Dissent is patriotic, so I've heard.
Can we PLEASE hold the fire to their feet if they yell at us? Can we? Can we? Please?
| 692 |
screaming_eagle Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:40:09pm |
re: #684 LGoPs
Hate to quote myself but since paying your taxes has been labeled patriotic by no less than the VPOTUS.......
IS IT OK NOW FOR US TO CALL THEM FUCKING UNPATRIOTIC!
YES
| 693 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:40:13pm |
re: #662 avanti
Guess what Avanti, my individual salvation does not depend on the collective salvation.
I can get in my car right now, pack it up with a few items, go off grid and take care of myself fine. I don't need a collective of fellow human beings to take car of myself.
I work in unison with other human beings because I want to, not because some politician has told me that the collective is the foundation for all endeavors.
I respect other human beings because it is my nature and my moral compass to do so, not because some religion or government tells me that I need to.
I love my fellow man, not because without him I will be reduced to a lonely creature, but because in my own understanding of loneliness, my soul reaches out in an effort to support those I care about and hold dear.
It comes from me, not from having my hand held, my ass wiped and any cradle to grave program that causes what I am, me, to disappear into a morass of mindless drones.
| 694 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:40:44pm |
re: #685 wrenchwench
Scroll down, there are a bunch of California retailers listed.
Ah! Missed that. Looks like Helen's Cycles in LA carries it.
| 695 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:40:58pm |
re: #682 Charles
[Link: www.performancebike.com...]
Specs
Brakes: Bengal Performance mechanical disc
Never heard of 'em. May have to remove sarc from suggestion #3.
| 696 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:41:17pm |
ABC News has learned that on Friday, President Obama will likely order the Department of Defense's Military Commission to withdraw charges against terrorist suspect Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The charges may later be reinstated in a military commission or pursued in a civilian court. Al-Nashiri will remain in custody.
The announcement will not be made until after President Obama meets with the families of victims of terrorist attacks on 9/11 and on the U.S.S. Cole, where he will assure them that this step is not being done to be lenient towards al-Nashiri. The move is being done to stop the continued prosecution of al-Nashiri in a court system that his administration may ultimately find illegitimate, not for any other reason, sources told ABC News.
/just as predicted
| 698 |
Dianna Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:42:01pm |
On sui juris:
The term Church sui iuris is used in CCEO to denote the autonomous churches in Catholic communion.
A church sui iuris is " a community of the Christian faithful, which is joined together by a hierarchy according to the norm of law and which is expressly or tacitly recognized as sui iuris by the supreme authority of the Church"(CCEO.27) . The term sui iuris is an innovation of CCEO (Codex Canonum Ecclesiarum Orientalium - Code of Canons of the Oriental Churches) and it denotes the relative autonomy of the oriental Catholic Churches. This canonical term, pregnant with many juridical nuances, indicates the God-given mission of the Oriental Catholic Churches to keep up their patrimonial autonomous nature. And the autonomy of these churches is relative in the sense that it is under the supreme authority of the Roman Pontiff.[1]
That's (sigh) from Wiki, but the source appears to be the Catholic encyclopedia.
I must head home, so this is now someone else's problem.
| 699 |
nevergiveup Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:42:07pm |
Clinton lauds 'courageous' Olmert approval of NIS 175m transfer to Gaza
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
The officials receive the money from the PA in order not to turn up for work
Sounds alot like Washington?
| 702 |
avanti Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:42:49pm |
re: #666 Walter L. Newton
And your point is? I'm asking, because parroting Obama doesn't tell me a thing about what you think, er, can that. Maybe it does?
My point was simply that your quote was a call to serve your fellow countrymen, not a unusual subject at a commencement address. Yes, I do agree with Obama's comment that choosing to do so doing is commendable, but not mandatory. I think most of us have done some ourselves, from serving in the military, to visiting a assisted living home.
| 703 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:43:03pm |
re: #688 FrogMarch
stimulus sham update:
You've probably already seen this, but in case not...
...Title VI, Financial Services and General Government, says that "not less than $6,000,000,000 shall be used for construction, repair, and alteration of Federal buildings." There's enough money there to name a building after every Member of Congress.The Bureau of Land Management gets $325,000,000 to spend fixing federal land, including "trail repair" and "remediation of abandoned mines or well sites," no doubt left over from the 19th-century land rush.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are getting $462,000,000 for "equipment, construction, and renovation of facilities, including necessary repairs and improvements to leased laboratories."
The National Institute of Standards gets $357,000,000 for the "construction of research facilities." The Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration gets $427,000,000 for that. The country is in an economic meltdown and the federal government is redecorating.
The FBI gets $75,000,000 for "salaries and expenses." Inside the $6,200,000,000 Weatherization Assistance Program one finds "expenses" of $500,000,000. How many bureaucrats does it take to "expense" a half-billion dollars?
The current, Senate-amended version now lists "an additional amount to be deposited in the Federal Buildings Fund, $9,048,000,000." Of this, "not less than $6,000,000,000 shall be available for measures necessary to convert GSA facilities to High-Performance Green Buildings." High performance?
Sen. Tom Coburn is threatening to read the bill on the floor of the Senate. I have a better idea: Read it on "Saturday Night Live."...
| 704 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:43:44pm |
| 705 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:44:23pm |
| 706 |
Kragar Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:44:27pm |
re: #696 Killian Bundy
/just as predicted
Sure would be a crying shame if Al-Nash were to escape and ended up in the mine field. Yup, crying shame.
| 707 |
Cathypop Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:44:28pm |
re: #699 nevergiveup
Clinton lauds 'courageous' Olmert approval of NIS 175m transfer to Gaza
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
The officials receive the money from the PA in order not to turn up for work
Sounds alot like Washington?
Where has the Hill been lately? Does Oshit got her locked up somewhere?
| 708 |
jcw46 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:45:34pm |
re: #682 Charles
Hmmm. What's that weigh? I had to barter my old bike for a favor last year and am looking to get back riding again. My, my. disk brakes. wow. bet you have to be careful clenching down on those handles or FLIP.
since they're disc then the same mechanics apply; I've found VEHICLE disc brakes squeal because they're
worn
cheap off market manufacture
incorrect installation (i.e. the spray and some manu. use a grease type lube on the back of the pad)
the rotor is warped or scored or corroded
sticking
and some designs just do after they wear a bit and won't fix. (and the mechanics just smirk at you when you ask why)
| 709 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:45:41pm |
re: #697 FrogMarch
Thank you.
Your welcome. Maybe someday Avanti will understand. He'll understand when he is suddenly alone, when the system can't or won't support him, he'll suddenly see that he has no really true friends, no one how is concerned with his survival becuase he is human, but only concerned with him if he is still of some use to the collective.
It feels good to belong to the collective until you have outlived your usefulness, and then you are simply rotted driftwood baking away on the beach.
I've seen it too many times.
| 710 |
jcm Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:45:44pm |
$50,000,000 for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380,000,000 in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300,000,000 for grants to combat violence against women
$2,000,000,000 for federal child-care block grants
$6,000,000,000 for university building projects
$15,000,000,000 for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4,000,000,000 for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths” up to the age of 24
$1,000,000,000 for community-development block grants
$4,200,000,000 for “neighborhood stabilization activities”
$650,000,000 for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populations”
$15,000,000,000 for business-loss carry-backs
$145,000,000,000 for “Making Work Pay” tax credits
$83 billion for the earned income credit
$150,000,000 for the Smithsonian
$34,000,000 to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500,000,000 for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44,000,000 for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350,000,000 for Agriculture Department computers
$88,000,000 to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448,000,000 for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600,000,000 to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450,000,000 for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missions”)
$600,000,000 for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modeling”)
$1,000,000,000 for the Census Bureau
$89,000,000,000 for Medicaid
$30,000,000,000 for COBRA insurance extension
$36,000,000,000 for expanded unemployment benefits
$20 billion for food stamps
$4,500,000,000 for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
$850,000,000 for Amtrak
$87,000,000 for a polar icebreaking ship
$1,700,000,000 for the National Park System
$55,000,000 for Historic Preservation Fund
$7,600,000,000 for “rural community advancement programs”
$150,000,000 for agricultural-commodity purchases
$150,000,000 for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fish”
$2,000,000,000 for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
$2,000,000,000 for a “clean coal” power plant in Illinois
$6,200,000,000 for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3,500,000,000 for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
$3,400,000,000 for the State Energy Program
$200,000,000 for state and local electric-transport projects
$300,000,000 for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
$400,000,000 for hybrid cars for state and local governments
$1,000,000,000 for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
$1,500,000,000 for green-technology loan guarantees
$8,000,000,000 for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
$2,400,000,000 for carbon-capture demonstration projects
$4,000,000,000 for electricity grid
$79,000,000,000 for State Fiscal Stabilization Fund
| 711 |
FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:45:54pm |
re: #703 J.D.
Thanks. Obama is out there desperately fear mongering and lying
saying that - we the people are down with this. No we are NOT.
| 712 |
opnion Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:45:56pm |
re: #690 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Go right ahead.
Dissent is patriotic, so I've heard.
Liberals are always engaging in patriotoc dissent, listening to their better angels & speaking truth to power, as long as you know, it's safe.
| 713 |
avanti Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:46:24pm |
re: #681 Stonemason
And those are the same empty platitudes that have graced commencement speeches since the first one was given. If he was so wonderful he might have tried to say something different, like, I don't know...how about:
If you cheat on your taxes you have a spot in my cabinet!
As for the actual quote, that is BS, my salvation is mine alone, and what I CHOOSE to do with my life is my choice, not his, and not societies.
Glad you agree with him that it's not mandatory and yes, it was a pretty run of the mill speech, but nothing sinister about it, although who ever put together the book is a strange fellow.
| 714 |
gmsc Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:46:38pm |
re: #710 jcm
$50,000,000 for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380,000,000 in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300,000,000 for grants to combat violence against women
$2,000,000,000 for federal child-care block grants
$6,000,000,000 for university building projects
$15,000,000,000 for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4,000,000,000 for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths” up to the age of 24
$1,000,000,000 for community-development block grants
$4,200,000,000 for “neighborhood stabilization activities”
$650,000,000 for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populations”
$15,000,000,000 for business-loss carry-backs
$145,000,000,000 for “Making Work Pay” tax credits
$83 billion for the earned income credit
$150,000,000 for the Smithsonian
$34,000,000 to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500,000,000 for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44,000,000 for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350,000,000 for Agriculture Department computers
$88,000,000 to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448,000,000 for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600,000,000 to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450,000,000 for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missions”)
$600,000,000 for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modeling”)
$1,000,000,000 for the Census Bureau
$89,000,000,000 for Medicaid
$30,000,000,000 for COBRA insurance extension
$36,000,000,000 for expanded unemployment benefits
$20 billion for food stamps
$4,500,000,000 for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
$850,000,000 for Amtrak
$87,000,000 for a polar icebreaking ship
$1,700,000,000 for the National Park System
$55,000,000 for Historic Preservation Fund
$7,600,000,000 for “rural community advancement programs”
$150,000,000 for agricultural-commodity purchases
$150,000,000 for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fish”
$2,000,000,000 for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
$2,000,000,000 for a “clean coal” power plant in Illinois
$6,200,000,000 for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3,500,000,000 for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
$3,400,000,000 for the State Energy Program
$200,000,000 for state and local electric-transport projects
$300,000,000 for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
$400,000,000 for hybrid cars for state and local governments
$1,000,000,000 for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
$1,500,000,000 for green-technology loan guarantees
$8,000,000,000 for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
$2,400,000,000 for carbon-capture demonstration projects
$4,000,000,000 for electricity grid
$79,000,000,000 for State Fiscal Stabilization Fund
But, how is our economy supposed to recover without projects like these?
| 715 |
Dustyvet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:46:45pm |
re: #706 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sure would be a crying shame if Al-Nash were to escape and ended up in the mine field. Yup, crying shame.
May he encounter one named Bouncing Betty...
| 716 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:46:49pm |
We got our first down-dinger on this thread!
Why do they hate pregnant whales?
| 717 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:47:01pm |
re: #696 Killian Bundy
I just got this today from my employee who detested W and voted for Obama.
Canada & America
Needs A Leader Like This!
There's a picture of Prime Minister John Howard - Australia here
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law
were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia ,
as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head
off potential terror attacks.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims
on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies
monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:
'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.
Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying
about whether we are offending some individual or their
culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority
of Australians.'
'This culture has been developed over two centuries
of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men
and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese,
Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .
Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some
Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because
Christian men and women, on Christian principles,
founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls
of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you
consider another part of the world as your new home,
because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why.
All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony
and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE,
and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping
about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our
Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one
other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force
you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the
country YOU accepted.'
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves,
American and Canadian citizens will find the
backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.
| 718 |
DEZes Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:47:07pm |
re: #693 Walter L. Newton
That reply should be framed and double matted!
| 719 |
UFO TOFU Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:47:22pm |
re: #704 wrenchwench
Do the rotors on a bike ever need to be machined?
| 720 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:47:28pm |
| 721 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:47:55pm |
| 722 |
Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:47:57pm |
re: #693 Walter L. Newton
That is just the kind of commencement speech our young people need to hear and not the puffed up drivel that Obama repeats.
| 723 |
Soona' Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:48:13pm |
re: #670 wrenchwench
And you still don't see him as a collectivist? He's for the opposite of the rugged individual.
You're right. This country's freedom and glory comes from rugged indvidualism, not a collective trust. We will, at times, fight and die for freedom, but not for the freedom of the state but for the freedom each of us has been granted individually.
| 724 |
DEZes Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:48:21pm |
re: #716 Charles
We got our first down-dinger on this thread!
Why do they hate pregnant whales?
Must be the carbon finprint.
| 725 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:48:50pm |
re: #711 FrogMarch
Thanks. Obama is out there desperately fear mongering and lying
saying that - we the people are down with this. No we are NOT.
We're not people anymore?
| 726 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:49:06pm |
re: #719 UFO TOFU
Do the rotors on a bike ever need to be machined?
I think you just buy a new one. They bend pretty easily.
| 728 |
melinwy Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:49:58pm |
re: #693 Walter L. Newton
Guess what Avanti, my individual salvation does not depend on the collective salvation.
I can get in my car right now, pack it up with a few items, go off grid and take care of myself fine. I don't need a collective of fellow human beings to take car of myself.
I work in unison with other human beings because I want to, not because some politician has told me that the collective is the foundation for all endeavors.
I respect other human beings because it is my nature and my moral compass to do so, not because some religion or government tells me that I need to.
I love my fellow man, not because without him I will be reduced to a lonely creature, but because in my own understanding of loneliness, my soul reaches out in an effort to support those I care about and hold dear.
It comes from me, not from having my hand held, my ass wiped and any cradle to grave program that causes what I am, me, to disappear into a morass of mindless drones.
That was awesome.
| 729 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:50:28pm |
re: #716 Charles
We got our first down-dinger on this thread!
Why do they hate pregnant whales?
Is there a way to see a dinger's profile if you can't find a post by him or her?
| 730 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:50:30pm |
re: #711 FrogMarch
Thanks. Obama is out there desperately fear mongering and lying
saying that - we the people are down with this. No we are NOT.
And once Porkzilla hits our pockets, he'll say it wasn't enough and will enact emergency legistation to create Porkzilla II:Bigger and Meaner.
He'll be on Porkzilla 13 by 2012 and we will be bankrupt.
/Ayers: Mission Accomplished!
| 731 |
DEZes Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:50:44pm |
| 732 |
albusteve Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:51:02pm |
re: #707 Cathypop
Where has the Hill been lately? Does Oshit got her locked up somewhere?
boning up on her job description....like all the others she is clueless
| 733 |
Stonemason Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:51:22pm |
re: #713 avanti
But you misread it, he does call it mandatory:
But I hope you don’t. Not because you have an obligation to those who are less fortunate, though you do have that obligation. Not because you have a debt to all those who helped you get here, though you do have that debt.
I absolutely do not have a debt to someone who chooses to screw their lives up with drugs, I do not have an obligation to criminals.
You do understand that he is trying to make all of this stuff mandatory right? I know you do 'cause you were involved in that thread here at LGF.
He can take that collective bullsh$% and smoke it.
| 734 |
opnion Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:51:33pm |
re: #711 FrogMarch
Thanks. Obama is out there desperately fear mongering and lying
saying that - we the people are down with this. No we are NOT.
The fear mongering is pure Saul Aliksky, exploit a disaster or create it.
Get people to think that you are the answer.
Obama has been doom & gloom since he has been elected, nothing like the guy during the campaign.
| 735 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:51:37pm |
re: #716 Charles
We got our first down-dinger on this thread!
Why do they hate pregnant whales?
Nuke the whales! Pregnant ones are two-fer.
| 736 |
Russkilitlover Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:51:58pm |
re: #710 jcm
$50,000,000 for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380,000,000 in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300,000,000 for grants to combat violence against women
$2,000,000,000 for federal child-care block grants
$6,000,000,000 for university building projects
$15,000,000,000 for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4,000,000,000 for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths” up to the age of 24
$1,000,000,000 for community-development block grants
$4,200,000,000 for “neighborhood stabilization activities”
$650,000,000 for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populations”
$15,000,000,000 for business-loss carry-backs
$145,000,000,000 for “Making Work Pay” tax credits
$83 billion for the earned income credit
$150,000,000 for the Smithsonian
$34,000,000 to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500,000,000 for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44,000,000 for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350,000,000 for Agriculture Department computers
$88,000,000 to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448,000,000 for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600,000,000 to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450,000,000 for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missions”)
$600,000,000 for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modeling”)
$1,000,000,000 for the Census Bureau
$89,000,000,000 for Medicaid
$30,000,000,000 for COBRA insurance extension
$36,000,000,000 for expanded unemployment benefits
$20 billion for food stamps
$4,500,000,000 for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
$850,000,000 for Amtrak
$87,000,000 for a polar icebreaking ship
$1,700,000,000 for the National Park System
$55,000,000 for Historic Preservation Fund
$7,600,000,000 for “rural community advancement programs”
$150,000,000 for agricultural-commodity purchases
$150,000,000 for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fish”
$2,000,000,000 for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
$2,000,000,000 for a “clean coal” power plant in Illinois
$6,200,000,000 for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3,500,000,000 for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
$3,400,000,000 for the State Energy Program
$200,000,000 for state and local electric-transport projects
$300,000,000 for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
$400,000,000 for hybrid cars for state and local governments
$1,000,000,000 for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
$1,500,000,000 for green-technology loan guarantees
$8,000,000,000 for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
$2,400,000,000 for carbon-capture demonstration projects
$4,000,000,000 for electricity grid
$79,000,000,000 for State Fiscal Stabilization Fund
OINK! This is in NO WAY a bill to "stimulate" anything remotely recognizable as our economy. And just for the record, I'm getting fucking sick of title Stimulation Bill.
| 737 |
FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:52:36pm |
re: #709 Walter L. Newton
Your welcome. Maybe someday Avanti will understand. He'll understand when he is suddenly alone, when the system can't or won't support him, he'll suddenly see that he has no really true friends, no one how is concerned with his survival becuase he is human, but only concerned with him if he is still of some use to the collective.
It feels good to belong to the collective until you have outlived your usefulness, and then you are simply rotted driftwood baking away on the beach.
I've seen it too many times.
The idea that acting in our own self-interest, acting to provide for ourselves and our own families and our friends if we so choose - the idea that that is wrong - is what animates the new left.
It is human nature. The collective is not human nature. True selfishness is the collective. It is actually selfless to demad to take care of ourselves and not make someone else do it.
I don't want government hand-outs and government programs and government welfare to control my life. and you are right - then what? How empty is the that? Pretty dang empty. The collective is not my religion.
It's just so much Marxist bullcrap.
| 738 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:52:41pm |
re: #732 albusteve
boning up on her job description....like all the others she is clueless
President Oshit... got a nice ring to it. Upding.
| 739 |
Bobblehead Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:52:43pm |
re: #716 Charles
We got our first down-dinger on this thread!
Why do they hate pregnant whales?
Maybe it's that snake.
| 740 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:52:52pm |
re: #734 opnion
The fear mongering is pure Saul Aliksky, exploit a disaster or create it.
Get people to think that you are the answer.
Obama has been doom & gloom since he has been elected, nothing like the guy during the campaign.
Goddamm Alinsky. May his name go down in infamy.......
| 741 |
Cathypop Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:52:58pm |
| 742 |
J.D. Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:53:13pm |
$4,200,000,000 for “neighborhood stabilization activities”
I can't wait to hear what that entails.
| 743 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:53:38pm |
re: #702 avanti
My point was simply that your quote was a call to serve your fellow countrymen, not a unusual subject at a commencement address. Yes, I do agree with Obama's comment that choosing to do so doing is commendable, but not mandatory. I think most of us have done some ourselves, from serving in the military, to visiting a assisted living home.
You tool. He's not commending, he's telling you what has to be done. You take the pretty words and you suck them up like sweet candy. You have no skills at critically comparing his words and thoughts against other aspects of his life and career, his past and current friends.
You look at Obama like a child would, what ever he says at the moment makes you feel good, but you lack (or refuse to use) the ability to take a broader look at the man, his life, his influences or even the plain, out right, hiding behind NOTHING statements that he has made.
His catch words are Marxist, his circle of friends have been some of the most famous modern Marxists and radicals in our time, his reading list reads like Lenin's bookshelf.
I can only believe that a vain and lean book like the "Pocket Obama" would be a blessing to you, since it can be read in single paragraph a day little comforting sound bites that you can easily digest.
Heaven help us from Americans like you.
| 744 |
FrogMarch Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:54:49pm |
re: #734 opnion
The fear mongering is pure Saul Aliksky, exploit a disaster or create it.
Get people to think that you are the answer.
Obama has been doom & gloom since he has been elected, nothing like the guy during the campaign.
The doom and gloom (and hey - the stock market did tank the day after the One was elected!) reminds me of Jimmy Carter. I only hope this nation wises up after 4 years of negative retread crapola.
| 745 |
opnion Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:56:00pm |
re: #737 FrogMarch
The idea that acting in our own self-interest, acting to provide for ourselves and our own families and our friends if we so choose - the idea that that is wrong - is what animates the new left.
It is human nature. The collective is not human nature. True selfishness is the collective. It is actually selfless to demad to take care of ourselves and not make someone else do it.
I don't want government hand-outs and government programs and government welfare to control my life. and you are right - then what? How empty is the that? Pretty dang empty. The collective is not my religion.
It's just so much Marxist bullcrap.
The Plymouth Colony did not thrive until they stopped all of the collective crap.Initiative of the individual saved them.
| 746 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:56:06pm |
re: #722 Bobblehead
That is just the kind of commencement speech our young people need to hear and not the puffed up drivel that Obama repeats.
re: #728 melinwy
re: #718 DEZes
That reply should be framed and double matted!
All of these essays will be available in the "Pocket Newton" on Amazon sometime in the near future.
| 747 |
Russkilitlover Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:56:13pm |
re: #740 LGoPs
Goddamm Alinsky. May his name go down in infamy.......
There's probably a set-aside in the Pork Bill for a commemorative statue on The Mall.
| 748 |
UFO TOFU Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:56:24pm |
re: #744 FrogMarch
I only hope this nation wises up after 4 years of negative retread crapola.
So do I, but this stimulus bill is going to leave a hell of a hangover.
| 749 |
LGoPs Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:56:29pm |
re: #743 Walter L. Newton
You tool. He's not commending, he's telling you what has to be done. You take the pretty words and you suck them up like sweet candy. You have no skills at critically comparing his words and thoughts against other aspects of his life and career, his past and current friends.
You look at Obama like a child would, what ever he says at the moment makes you feel good, but you lack (or refuse to use) the ability to take a broader look at the man, his life, his influences or even the plain, out right, hiding behind NOTHING statements that he has made.
His catch words are Marxist, his circle of friends have been some of the most famous modern Marxists and radicals in our time, his reading list reads like Lenin's bookshelf.
I can only believe that a vain and lean book like the "Pocket Obama" would be a blessing to you, since it can be read in single paragraph a day little comforting sound bites that you can easily digest.
Heaven help us from Americans like you.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding......
Man, I wish I had more dings to give you.
Brilliant.
| 750 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:56:30pm |
re: #740 LGoPs
Goddamm Alinsky. May his name go down in infamy.......
One more guy on my "if i had a time machine list"...
| 751 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:57:17pm |
re: #749 LGoPs
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding......
Man, I wish I had more dings to give you.
Brilliant.
Thanks.
| 752 |
avanti Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:58:16pm |
re: #693 Walter L. Newton
OK, another issue we disagree on. I see no harm in calling for voluntary service to others at a commencement address even if he cited Christian principles.
| 753 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:59:07pm |
re: #745 opnion
The Plymouth Colony did not thrive until they stopped all of the collective crap.Initiative of the individual saved them.
BRAVO! Compelled altruism is not altruism.
| 755 |
opnion Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:59:27pm |
re: #743 Walter L. Newton
Walter do you recall Obamas 20 minute victory speech on Super Tuesday?
I looked at my wife & said that I had not heard that rhetoric since Philosophy 101. We were studying Marx.
| 756 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:59:31pm |
re: #749 LGoPs
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding......
Man, I wish I had more dings to give you.
Brilliant.
What is certain, Avanti will come back in here, now or later, never address the actual points I made. He will either go right off topic, or simply be on a new and improved "Obama is our savior" rant. Like I said above, he's like a child.
| 757 |
Empire1 Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:59:49pm |
re: #677 avanti
You'll find several brands at any parts store, it works just fine. As a bit of triva, I just used it last week on the first American car to have disk brakes, a 1963 Studebaker Avanti.
You have one of those? ::drool::
| 758 |
opnion Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:00:52pm |
re: #740 LGoPs
Goddamm Alinsky. May his name go down in infamy.......
That is how the Dear Leader learned manipulation.
| 759 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:01:03pm |
re: #752 avanti
OK, another issue we disagree on. I see no harm in calling for voluntary service to others at a commencement address even if he cited Christian principles.
DID I CALL IT CORRECTLY.
He either never read anything in the three LONG messages I left above, or he doesn't understand them, or he doesn't care.
Alex, I'll take ALL THREE for 1000 dollars.
| 760 |
Truck Monkey Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:02:16pm |
re: #730 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
And once Porkzilla hits our pockets, he'll say it wasn't enough and will enact emergency legistation to create Porkzilla II:Bigger and Meaner.
He'll be on Porkzilla 13 by 2012 and we will be bankrupt.
/Ayers: Mission Accomplished!
You mean we'll STILL be bankrupt..... only more so.
| 761 |
opnion Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:02:24pm |
| 762 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:02:38pm |
re: #755 opnion
Walter do you recall Obamas 20 minute victory speech on Super Tuesday?
I looked at my wife & said that I had not heard that rhetoric since Philosophy 101. We were studying Marx.
I'm far from a political animal, really, I have more of a populist take on politics, but I know when I've seen a rat, if you get my drift.
| 763 |
songbird Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:03:35pm |
re: #720 capitalist piglet
I lasted two phrases. That's a record for me.
ENOUGH!
Well, President Obama? Are you still saying "Yes We Can"?
Or is it more like "Why aren't they doing it my way?" As if your sincerity will make it all right.
Or "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"
| 764 |
avanti Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:04:56pm |
| 765 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:05:11pm |
| 766 |
opnion Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:05:47pm |
re: #762 Walter L. Newton
I'm far from a political animal, really, I have more of a populist take on politics, but I know when I've seen a rat, if you get my drift.
Got it.
| 769 |
lostlakehiker Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:10:15pm |
re: #69 Charles
Kook site of the day:
[Link: www.geocentricity.com...]
They're promoting "Biblical Astronomy," which proves that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Copernicus led to Hitler!
The site correctly observes that you can always rework the math so that the earth is "stationary", and things revolve around it. It exerts a peculiar force that has exactly the effect of making things behave in relation to each other and the earth exactly as if classical physics were true.
I studied his scientific work, and using the same logic, I can prove that in fact the whole universe revolves around me. Me, personally. From time to time, when I so will it, the earth leaps away from my feet, and then rebounds. Sometimes I like to make the earth spin and spin around me until I get dizzy. It's just breathtaking. The earth is nearly at the center of the Universe, and Dr. Bouw is almost right, but he missed the fine details. I bring geocentrism to a New Level. The whole universe is not just geocentric, it's Me-ocentric.
/Lostlakus D Hiekour, PhD--in Egocentrism
/////! DO NOT TAKE THIS LITERALLY!/////
| 772 |
avanti Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:15:45pm |
re: #757 Empire1
You have one of those? ::drool::
I have two now, prepping for ebay, but I've owned a few dozen over the years.
| 773 |
lostlakehiker Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:16:02pm |
re: #714 gmsc
$1,700,000,000 for the National Park System
You do realize that the civilian conservation corps, or CCC, provided work for a large number of young people who had no other means of support, and built many of the trails that have made the national parks such a pleasure to hike in?
Some of us have uncles and great uncles who would not have lived without the CCC. Not all infrastructure recession spending is stupid.
When the government can buy something that will be a public good when finished, and it's cheaper now than it will be later because the man-hours it will consume would otherwise go to waste, that's a good use of public money.
| 774 |
debutaunt Thu, Feb 5, 2009 4:29:31pm |
re: #737 FrogMarch
The idea that acting in our own self-interest, acting to provide for ourselves and our own families and our friends if we so choose - the idea that that is wrong - is what animates the new left.
It is human nature. The collective is not human nature. True selfishness is the collective. It is actually selfless to demad to take care of ourselves and not make someone else do it.
I don't want government hand-outs and government programs and government welfare to control my life. and you are right - then what? How empty is the that? Pretty dang empty. The collective is not my religion.
It's just so much Marxist bullcrap.
If you think of it as a choice between rational self interest or irrational self interest, it becomes more easily understood.
| 775 |
Salamantis Thu, Feb 5, 2009 5:01:53pm |
re: #449 Lincolntf
Wot?
I should have been more specific. I muddled it up with Earth/Solar System references.
The Big Bang was 6-8 billion years ago when I was in high school. It's now considered to be 14 billion years ago.
Either way, the moment that the chain of events began (whether caused by an infinite Elephant, an old white man with a beard, an eternal Great Spirit or a confluence of natural forces beyond current scientific speculation) is the great question. Unfortunately, it's difficult to get back that far (conversationally) without encountering boundaries of philosophy and ingrained preference.
Actually, the universe is now considered to be 13.73 ± 0.12 billion years old.
| 776 |
Jim D Thu, Feb 5, 2009 5:20:27pm |
re: #770 ploome hineni
So you're saying that Africans are not worth saving because they'll kill each other anyway.
Charming.
| 777 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 6:16:00pm |
ploome: you've been here for a long time, and posted a lot of valuable comments, but you really need to start thinking more carefully before posting. You've been crossing the line too much lately. I don't want this kind of stuff at my site, and I'm tired of taking the blame for people who post angry crap without thinking. Please get a grip before I have to block your account.
| 778 |
Basho Thu, Feb 5, 2009 6:37:28pm |
Gah... meant to post this earlier when the thread was more active, but here are some responses to that Jerry Coyne article linked on LGF a while back:
[Link: scienceblogs.com...]
One of the responses is from Steven Pinker, who wrote a great book debunking the blank slate notion in his book called, well, The Blank Slate. The other is Sam Harris, who many here probably hate, but his response is witty.
Oh, and some teacher lost his job in Texas when he was suspected of being an atheist:
[Link: scienceblogs.com...]
| 779 |
Aye Pod Thu, Feb 5, 2009 7:08:01pm |
re: #778 Basho
I don't get the Sam Harris hate thing. He seems like the most polite of the atheists I've seen talking. One person here a while back described him as "an absolute monster of a man"! Did I miss something?
| 780 |
Aye Pod Thu, Feb 5, 2009 7:12:40pm |
re: #778 Basho
Oh, and some teacher lost his job in Texas when he was suspected of being an atheist:
[Link: scienceblogs.com...]
Hard to believe such a thing can still happen today. Which kind of reminds me - gonna go and watch an episode of Boston Legal before I crash. Nite all.
| 781 |
Sharmuta Thu, Feb 5, 2009 7:57:09pm |
re: #679 gmsc
Not only was Erasmus Darwin Charles Darwin's father, but Josiah Wedgwood's (the man who started Wedgwood's pottery) son-in-law, too!
No- it was his grandfather.
| 782 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Feb 5, 2009 9:28:24pm |
re: #425 OldLineTexan
I wish I could find that protest picture of a disgruntled woman sitting on a curb. Her sign read "Lesbians against Bush".
After the 2004 election, I whipped out my Badge-A-Minit™ button maker -- of course I have one! -- and made myself a lapel button that said: "I suck COCK but I voted for BUSH." (With a tiny little version of the U.S. flag below that.)
| 783 |
NoelArmourson Thu, Feb 5, 2009 9:52:05pm |
re: #718 DEZes
That reply should be framed and double matted!
Charles might prefer the frame to be double-butted.
/bike joke
| 784 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Feb 5, 2009 10:32:34pm |
re: #779 Jimmah
I don't get the Sam Harris hate thing. He seems like the most polite of the atheists I've seen talking. One person here a while back described him as "an absolute monster of a man"! Did I miss something?
Well -- speaking as a non-believer -- I just read Harris's lengthy response to the responses at edge.org, and I thought he came off as a total rosebud. And I mean "rosebud" in the gay S&M freak sense, namely "a partly everted anus, à la the goatse.cx dude."
Harris was at his worst when tearing into Ken Miller, author of Only a Theory. Miller is Roman Catholic, so it's possible that when he's not on the job as a biologist, he subscribes to all sorts of scientifically questionable notions, such as Jesus popping back to life after three days, and Mary getting beamed directly to Heaven when she died.
In the commentary that Harris was responding to, however, Miller didn't ask his readers to buy into ANY of this -- he was, instead, advancing the rather modest argument that a Universe created by a "Deistic" sort of God might be empirically indistinguishable from a totally atheistic Universe, and vice versa.
But Harris -- being such a sweet rosebud of a guy and possessed of such a thoroughly honest and rational mind -- proceeds to treat Miller as though Miller had been simultaneously advocating Young Earth Creationism and the sort of Aryan Christian Brotherhood society in which homosexuals and Jews are hung hanged from lampposts.
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