Important new information has been released by the IDF about Palestinian casualties during the most recent invasion of Gaza, and as you might have expected, the media and international NGOs have grossly distorted the truth: The Battle for Accuracy in the Media is Engaged: The IDF Weighs in on Casualty Figures.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:27:56am |
How many other countries actually attempt to identify every last casualty for better or for worse?
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vxbush Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:28:12am |
Good news on the report. Glad to see the IDF working so hard to clarify what has really happened.
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Desert Dog Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:28:37am |
How many Palestinians has Hamas killed over the past few months?
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:29:12am |
Like we can believe a report on IDF casualties given out by the IDF… We all know that all the palestinians killed were children and women and metal factory workers.
/Moonbat off.
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Kragar Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:30:07am |
IT WAS A MASSACRE*!
*definitions of massacre may vary.
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:30:22am |
So, 300 (actual noncombatant deaths) vs. 900 (stated by Hamas). I’m surprised Hamas stayed so low. They could have said 5,000 and the wolrd media would have bought it.
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FightingBack Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:30:32am |
You mean more than one was killed? Excessive force.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:30:32am |
IDF used operation Cast Lead for other purposes also:
IDF used Gaza op to perfect Iron Dome
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
And this is one missile defense system Obama can’t cancel!
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Kragar Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:30:42am |
re: #3 Desert Dog
How many Palestinians has Hamas killed over the past few months?
None. It was always the Israelis fault.
/
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vxbush Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:30:56am |
re: #6 Bloodnok
So, 300 (actual noncombatant deaths) vs. 900 (stated by Hamas). I’m surprised Hamas stayed so low. They could have said 5,000 and the wolrd media would have bought it.
I think you’re right. Journalism, of course, has no interest in investigating news when the given word is just what they want to hear.
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brookly red Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:31:06am |
re: #3 Desert Dog
I don’t think that they release official numbers, but now I wonder too.
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A.W. Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:32:19am |
Okay, Isreal, look, I love your country and I am on your side, but guys, seriously… you need to step up in the media war. yes, i know that there is at least functional anti-semitism, and the clear cut stuff, all over the place, but really, its been almost a month and NOW you are confronting the lies. You can do better than this. You have to do better than this.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:32:34am |
As usual, Israel was correct, the thugs and the MFM were dead wrong.
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quickjustice Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:32:46am |
What’s astonishing is how hard the IDF tried to avoid collateral damage. That means excellent intelligence, among others things. Many people risked their lives to save the lives of non-combatants.
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Milk in a Box Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:34:32am |
Wow. Hamas even failed at getting a high number of civilian casualties, although it wasn’t for lack of trying.
Can they do anything right?
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Yashmak Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:35:18am |
re: #15 quickjustice
What’s astonishing is how hard the IDF tried to avoid collateral damage. That means excellent intelligence, among others things. Many people risked their lives to save the lives of non-combatants.
Absolutely. This is the strongest point in favor of the Israelis. I mean, contrast the two sides. One intentionally targets children, firing their rockets during school hours to maximize the chance of hitting them. The other, even during a retributive strike into Gaza itself, puts its soldiers at risk to avoid hitting civilians…to the point of phoning warnings ahead of attacks.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:36:33am |
Jordan’s king discusses peace with Sen. John Kerry
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]
I was discussing the same thing with my 3 cats this morning, but they displayed particular disdain for the Arab position?
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vxbush Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:36:44am |
re: #17 Yashmak
Absolutely. This is the strongest point in favor of the Israelis. I mean, contrast the two sides. One intentionally targets children, firing their rockets during school hours to maximize the chance of hitting them. The other, even during a retributive strike into Gaza itself, puts its soldiers at risk to avoid hitting civilians…to the point of phoning warnings ahead of attacks.
But it does no good, in the sense that the higher moral ground that the IDF takes does not prevent it from being hammered in the media and by the elite.
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jester6 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:37:51am |
A little off topic but close enough.
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damnyanqui Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:38:35am |
Speaking of “We are the world. We are the children. All are equal.”
Check out this absolute beauty. Seems some prominent community member in suburban Buffalo done chopped off his wife’s head!
[Link: www.buffalonews.com…]
Turns out he’s a Buddhist.
No, a Jew.
No, actually a Catholic.
No, a Zoroastrian?
Presyterian?
Hindu?
Falun Gong?
Baptist?
Why no. None of the above.
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notutopia Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:39:17am |
As time passes, more accurate information will become available.
Analysis: Counted out: Belatedly, the IDF enters the life-and-death numbers game
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
One of the Palestinian “civilians” Killed in Gaza:
includes link to: World duped by Hamas death count’
[Link: volokh.com…]
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vxbush Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:40:41am |
re: #23 notutopia
As time passes, more accurate information will become available.
Analysis: Counted out: Belatedly, the IDF enters the life-and-death numbers game
[Link: www.jpost.com…]One of the Palestinian “civilians” Killed in Gaza:
includes link to: World duped by Hamas death count’
[Link: volokh.com…]
But how many people will see these? Not enough, I’m afraid. They are good, and they should continue to go out. But most media channels will frankly just ignore it.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:41:36am |
re: #22 damnyanqui
That was a couple of threads here last week.
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x-wing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:42:24am |
re: #22 damnyanqui
The most ironic thing about this is the guy started the network that is now failing to promote Islam as a peacful religion.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:44:49am |
re: #22 damnyanqui
So how do you think his defense will go? How will they plead?
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slartybartfast Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:45:35am |
It’s interesting that Hamas can throw out a casualty figure before the smoke clears and it’s promoted as though it was the result of careful investigation.
Does it not occur to our media that an accurate estimate takes time?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:46:36am |
re: #26 x-wing
The most ironic thing about this is the guy started the network that is now failing to promote Islam as a peacful religion.
Are you saying that Islam is not a peaceful religion? I will keeel you!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:47:22am |
re: #29 slartybartfast
It’s interesting that Hamas can throw out a casualty figure before the smoke clears and it’s promoted as though it was the result of careful investigation.
Does it not occur to our media that an accurate estimate takes time?
Silly infidel. Everyone knows that the people commonly referred to as Palestinians are renowned throughout the world for their efficiency and expediency in performing such tedious and time-consuming tasks as digging tunnelscounting bodies.
/
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Dave the..... Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:47:57am |
Decent AP story on anti-Semitic attacks worldwide.
[Link: www.startribune.com…]
…….Firebombs were hurled at synagogues in France, Sweden and Belgium, Jews were beaten in England and Norway and an Italian union endorsed a boycott of Jewish-owned shops. In Venezuela, vandals shattered religious objects at a synagogue and spray-painted, “Jews, get out,” on the walls.
In Yemen, where Islamic militancy is on the rise, anti-Israel protesters pelted several Jewish homes with rocks and smashed windows, injuring at least one person, security officials said.
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notutopia Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:48:17am |
No Palestinian Leaders Are Ready To End The Conflict
[Link: yidwithlid.blogspot.com…]
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:48:20am |
re: #29 slartybartfast
It’s interesting that Hamas can throw out a casualty figure before the smoke clears and it’s promoted as though it was the result of careful investigation.
Does it not occur to our media that an accurate estimate takes time?
You ever see how quickly they report a winner in the Presidential elections?
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x-wing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:48:57am |
re: #30 rightside
Your Religion of Peace™ at work.
He was just upset that day. I can’t wait to hear the defense attorney try to defend this guy.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:51:21am |
PESHAWAR, Pakistan — The government agreed to impose Islamic law and suspend a military offensive across a large swath of northwest Pakistan on Monday in concessions aimed at pacifying a spreading Taliban insurgency there.
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
More good news since the “Liberals” saw fit to get rid of Musharaf?
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Ojoe Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:51:55am |
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ThinkRight Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:52:18am |
re: #36 x-wing
He was just upset that day. I can’t wait to hear the defense attorney try to defend this guy.
You didn’t hear ?
Obama is signing the executive order that Sharia Law will supersede all laws on the books.
/
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:52:19am |
re: #36 x-wing
He was just upset that day. I can’t wait to hear the defense attorney try to defend this guy.
I do believe that the defense attorney will be reduced to trying to find something wrong with the prosecutions paperwork in this case.
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Desert Dog Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:52:53am |
re: #37 Nevergiveup
PESHAWAR, Pakistan — The government agreed to impose Islamic law and suspend a military offensive across a large swath of northwest Pakistan on Monday in concessions aimed at pacifying a spreading Taliban insurgency there.
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
More good news since the “Liberals” saw fit to get rid of Musharaf?
Well, at least they don’t have any nuclear weapons! Oh wait, THEY DO!
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rightside Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:52:58am |
re: #36 x-wing
What are the odds he’ll bring up shari’a law?
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jester6 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:53:00am |
Charles -
When I hit the “new comments” button or an avatar I end up on the front page. I am using Firefox 3.0.6.
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kynna Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:53:01am |
Leftist: It’s always an atrocity when Israel kills someone because they’re illegally occupying Palestine and … blah, blah, blah, blah, Jewish lobby, blah, blah, racism, blah, blah …
Truth falls on deaf ears when it’s directed at the Left.
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vxbush Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:53:19am |
re: #38 Ojoe
OT Towercam - Snowstorm in Progress, Latitude 34.2 North - Get your red hot global warming !
How can you tell?!?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:53:24am |
At least three teens are claiming to be the father of a baby girl born to a 15-year-old, after one of them was reported to be the youngest father in Britain.
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
lfie, then 12, and Chantelle routinely were allowed to share a bed, but others, including 14-year-old Tyler Barker and 16-year-old Richard Goodsell, also claim they had sex with the girl.
What the “F” is wrong with these people?
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slartybartfast Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:53:27am |
re: #35 Ford_Prefect
Great analogy—in either case, results are weighted towards the desired message!
s.b. = Master of the obvious.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:54:54am |
re: #47 Nevergiveup
At least three teens are claiming to be the father of a baby girl born to a 15-year-old, after one of them was reported to be the youngest father in Britain.
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
lfie, then 12, and Chantelle routinely were allowed to share a bed, but others, including 14-year-old Tyler Barker and 16-year-old Richard Goodsell, also claim they had sex with the girl.
What the “F” is wrong with these people?
No, I’m Spartacus!
/
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ThinkRight Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:55:03am |
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mean Gene Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:55:37am |
I really appreciated this paragraph:
If we compare them with WW II (Dresden, Tokyo) or even Vietnam, these casualty figures are astoundingly low for civilian casualties, which run in the 80-99% range. Even if we compare them with NATO in Belgrade or the US in Mosul, the lowest figures for such activity on record outside of Israel, then the Israeli army outperforms virtually every military on record in the world for its ability to minimize civilian casualties.
Good research and good source for facts.
Loved the links and the historical perspectives.
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vxbush Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:55:49am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
Sigh. I am unworthy to share comment space with you.
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:56:00am |
re: #47 Nevergiveup
At least three teens are claiming to be the father of a baby girl born to a 15-year-old, after one of them was reported to be the youngest father in Britain.
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
lfie, then 12, and Chantelle routinely were allowed to share a bed, but others, including 14-year-old Tyler Barker and 16-year-old Richard Goodsell, also claim they had sex with the girl.
What the “F” is wrong with these people?
Maury Povitch is shaking in his boots to get this upcoming episode…
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x-wing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:56:19am |
re: #43 rightside
What are the odds he’ll bring up shari’a law?
You just made a shiver go up my spine, what with England heading that way now.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:56:24am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
Personally, I’d go for the handlebar-mounted version of the AK, but that’s just me.
Congrats by the way!
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ThinkRight Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:56:33am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
The AK
With that you can commandeer a bike
LOL
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Desert Dog Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:56:49am |
re: #40 ThinkRight
You didn’t hear ?
Obama is signing the executive order that Sharia Law will supersede all laws on the books.
/
He’s doing almost as bad….he and his cohorts in Congress are enacting Liberal Law…..Tax and Spend, change the Constitution to suite your narrow political aims, take from the rich give to the poor redistribution, and, of course, layer it all with a heavy dose of suicidal political correctness.
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Kragar Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:57:01am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
I’m saving mine up for the power to decide who lives and who dies
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:57:03am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
And you still haven’t managed to pick an avatar.
/
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Desert Dog Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:57:30am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
40,000? Man, what a slacker
/
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slartybartfast Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:57:44am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Well, I gave you an up-ding hoping you’ll hold out ‘til you have enough points for the mo-ped with the rocket launcher…
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:57:52am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
Will that make you a Karma Chameleon?
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ThinkRight Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:58:06am |
re: #61 Desert Dog
He’s doing almost as bad….he and his cohorts in Congress are enacting Liberal Law…..Tax and Spend, change the Constitution to suite your narrow political aims, take from the rich give to the poor redistribution, and, of course, layer it all with a heavy dose of suicidal political correctness.
It is scary
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vxbush Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:58:15am |
re: #61 Desert Dog
He’s doing almost as bad….he and his cohorts in Congress are enacting Liberal Law…..Tax and Spend, change the Constitution to suite your narrow political aims, take from the rich give to the poor redistribution, and, of course, layer it all with a heavy dose of suicidal political correctness.
But they aren’t changing the constitution. They’re just ignoring it. And once they get liberal judges into key positions, then no one will be able to hold them accountable for it.
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:58:41am |
re: #20 buzzsawmonkey
From the link:
Not quite.If 300 of those identified were characterized as civilians, that is not one-third, but one-fourth—a smaller proportion of collateral damage.
If 580 of those killed were positively identified as Hamas, that makes almost one-half of the identified casualties definitely legitimate targets, leaving questions about a mere 1/4 of the identified casualties. Mind you, the “questions” exist here only because that quarter was not “positively identified” as Hamas, meaning that it would include persons shooting or engaging in other hostile activities but the nature of whose “official” affiliation was not known.
And of those, how many were family members forced to be in the same room as the “legitimate” target?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:59:03am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
Maybe you can buy an avatar with those.
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x-wing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:59:26am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
AK..AK..AK..(waving hands)..AK
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realwest Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:59:29am |
re: #33 Dave the…..
Um, Dave - since it was from the AP I read the article with some degree of suspicion and found this
The fury over Gaza has centered around the hundreds of Palestinian civilians killed in the war, in which 13 Israelis also died. Israel says it could not avoid killing civilians because Gaza militants operate from residential areas, but critics accuse it of using disproportionate force in its war to halt rocket attacks on its territory.
The steep Palestinian death toll sparked protests across the Muslim world, Europe and in Venezuela, and in some cases, the rage turned to violence. Firebombs were hurled at synagogues in France, Sweden and Belgium, Jews were beaten in England and Norway and an Italian union endorsed a boycott of Jewish-owned shops. In Venezuela, vandals shattered religious objects at a synagogue and spray-painted, “Jews, get out,” on the walls.
[emphasis added, realwest]
So I’m afraid I can’t agree with your conclussion that
it was a “Decent AP story on anti-Semitic attacks worldwide”.
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Henrik Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:59:34am |
What we are missing (Im hoping the IDF provides this, too) are statistics on how many of the civilians were killed by Hamas
Are the 30+ Fatahniks that were executed by Hamas included under civilians, fex?
And then there is the bit about the UNRWA school that was hit, then wasnt hit by the IDF: turns out the bodycount at the school wasnt 42, but 12 - 9 Hamasniks and 3 civilians. Part of the reason Hamas blew it up to 42 was the inclusion of a family living some 50-60 meters away from where the IDF shells hit the Hamasniks. Something hit their home, killing 12 of them.
Me, Im guessing a Qassam misfiring after the IDF hit the Hamasniks at the school. Bodies can always be blamed on the evil joos, no matter who killed them.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 16, 2009 9:59:55am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
I’d go for the bicycle with the AK-47, mounted in a holster.
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NoizeNinja Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:00:32am |
Re: #47
I guess the Pakistani military aren’t the only ones lying down today…
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rightside Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:01:05am |
re: #58 x-wing
You just made a shiver go up my spine, what with England
headingthat way now.
Fixed that for you.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:01:26am |
re: #81 Ward Cleaver
I’d go for the bicycle with the AK-47, mounted in a holster.
Nah. I’d want the AK-47, mounted atop my car. I have to deal with rush hour later today.
/
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rightside Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:01:42am |
re: #80 buzzsawmonkey
I’ll photoshop you one for a few hundred points.
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pat Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:01:44am |
Not that the media cares. One distortion to the next.
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Erik The Red Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:01:48am |
re: #69 CyanSnowHawk
Will that make you a Karma Chameleon?
Boy George. Yeeks………… Up dinged for the bad pun.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:01:57am |
re: #76 realwest
Firebombs were hurled at synagogues in France, Sweden and Belgium, Jews were beaten in England and Norway and an Italian union endorsed a boycott of Jewish-owned shops. In Venezuela, vandals shattered religious objects at a synagogue and spray-painted, “Jews, get out,” on the walls.
This happens all the time, doesn’t it? Israel defending itself was just the most current excuse.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:02:01am |
re: #73 buzzsawmonkey
Would it make you feel better if I garnered some negative points by complaining about the ID threads, just for balance?
Say something nice about Vlaams Belang; that should do the trick.
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itellu3times Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:02:11am |
re: #8 Nevergiveup
IDF used operation Cast Lead for other purposes also:
IDF used Gaza op to perfect Iron Dome
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
And this is one missile defense system Obama can’t cancel!
Well, all they did is calibrate the radar.
And I’m very skeptical about it anyway, for the reasons given in the article. The name “Iron Dome” is especially misleading, as no defensive system is an “iron dome”.
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realwest Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:02:11am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
And I’ll bet you won the award for “Senior Prom King” in high school, too!
/
Congrats!
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:02:53am |
re: #73 buzzsawmonkey
Would it make you feel better if I garnered some negative points by complaining about the ID threads, just for balance?
Why would you complain about Implant Dentistry?
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:03:18am |
re: #33 Dave the…..
Along the same lines - 31% of Europeans believe economic meltdown is the fault of jooooooooos!
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Desert Dog Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:03:24am |
re: #71 vxbush
But they aren’t changing the constitution. They’re just ignoring it. And once they get liberal judges into key positions, then no one will be able to hold them accountable for it.
These Dems are not dummies….they are stacking the deck in all areas. The Supreme Court will look very different in 4 years. So will the Congressional legislative districts once Census Man Obama gets his hands on them. The Republicans better get crackin’ or they will find themselves to moot.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:03:30am |
re: #93 subsailor68
Why would you complain about Implant Dentistry?
I thought he meant Interior Decorators.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:03:36am |
re: #57 ploome hineni
“Moderate” Kuwaiti Muslim : May Allah Grant KKK Success
Kuwaiti Professor Fantasizes Of A Biological Attack On The White House
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:03:37am |
re: #93 subsailor68
Why would you complain about Implant Dentistry?
Shit don’t do that, it’s my biggest money maker!
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Ojoe Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:03:49am |
re: #46 vxbush
Scroll down to the weather report line at the bottom of the towercam image.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:03:56am |
re: #73 buzzsawmonkey
Would it make you feel better if I garnered some negative points by complaining about the ID threads, just for balance?
You could always say something supportive of Ann Coulter and her Neo-Nazi admirers.
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Desert Dog Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:04:10am |
re: #73 buzzsawmonkey
Would it make you feel better if I garnered some negative points by complaining about the ID threads, just for balance?
People would still give you the positive vibes, man. Thinkin’ are joking
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realwest Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:04:15am |
re: #54 mean Gene
Huh, I wonder where this came from: “Vietnam, these casualty figures are astoundingly low for civilian casualties, which run in the 80-99% range”?
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:04:31am |
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Dave the..... Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:04:43am |
realwest, thanks. I just skimmed the story and that paragraph stood out. Now that I read the whole thing, yes. I see what you mean.
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vxbush Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:04:55am |
re: #100 Ojoe
Scroll down to the weather report line at the bottom of the towercam image.
Thanks, but I was being facetious, given the cloud cover…..
[writes down “be more obvious in humor” in notebook]
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:04:59am |
re: #71 vxbush
But they aren’t changing the constitution. They’re just ignoring it. And once they get liberal judges into key positions, then no one will be able to hold them accountable for it.
Barack Hugo Obama.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:05:15am |
re: #95 vapig
Along the same lines - 31% of Europeans believe economic meltdown is the fault of jooooooooos!
Ah shit, here we go again. Wake me up when it’s 1946.
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Dave the..... Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:05:16am |
to add to that….they list the attacks, but reading between the lines, it’s the Jews on fault.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:05:29am |
re: #97 Ward Cleaver
I thought he meant Interior Decorators.
LOL! Excuuuuuuseee me, that’s Interior Designer to you.
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rightwinger3 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:05:46am |
re: #1 Nevergiveup
How many other countries actually attempt to identify every last casualty for better or for worse?
1
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Kragar Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:05:46am |
re: #95 vapig
Along the same lines - 31% of Europeans believe economic meltdown is the fault of jooooooooos!
How many of the Europeans polled were Muslims?
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:07:20am |
re: #88 Erik The Red
Boy George. Yeeks………… Up dinged for the bad pun.
I heard about him starting a 15 Month jail sentence last week. Looked it up and found this.
Boy George, whose real name is George O’Dowd, is serving a 15-month sentence after being found guilty for chaining Norwegian Audun Carlsen to a hook in a bedroom at his East London apartment in April 2007.
The two had planned to work on some tracks together but his spell behind bars put an end to the collaboration.
So the chaining him to a hook in his bedroom wasn’t the part that ended the collaboration?
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realwest Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:08:31am |
re: #89 Ford_Prefect
Sorry Ford - you somehow misunderstood my comment; it wasn’t a “decent piece” by AP - the “good statement” if you will, was preceeded by the usual idiotic anti-Israel bashing.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:08:41am |
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:08:45am |
re: #109 Honorary Yooper
Ah shit, here we go again. Wake me up when it’s 1946.
No kidding! And the a$$hats in congress want us to be more like Europe? Yeah - f-ing no thanks, fascists!
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itellu3times Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:09:59am |
These numbers are truly remarkable, given the circumstances. It’s an amazing technical and command performance. BUT, I am not certain that it makes the point. I still say that every high-ranking Hamas official should be blessed with as large a bomb as is available, until people fear to be within a thousand yards of them. If this is a WAR, then such things are not only justified, but necessary for victory. Even to attempt such counter-productive precision, is fiercely expensive, and cost can lose a war as much as military issues. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if in the history of the world, the economic cost of armies and battle accounted for more results than direct fighting. As to the cost of casualties, well, same deal, right?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:10:16am |
re: #115 realwest
Sorry Ford - you somehow misunderstood my comment; it wasn’t a “decent piece” by AP - the “good statement” if you will, was preceeded by the usual idiotic anti-Israel bashing.
No, I understood your point. I was just commenting on that particular passage that you had quoted.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:10:33am |
re: #116 subsailor68
OT
Beaver delivers some good news for Detroit
Rats, it wasn’t what I thought.
What more could you ask for, the story has got a picture of a big furry beaver.
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claspur Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:11:41am |
Problem now is, we’ve got a fox watching the hen house here, and I’m not talking about Michelle. *gak
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:12:04am |
re: #113 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
How many of the Europeans polled were Muslims?
I’m not sure, but from what I’ve heard (radio guy went over story this morning) 35% of Spain believes this and 1/3rd of all of Europe believes this.
Europe has such a great record concerning their treatment of Jews! You’d think they’d have learned their lesson!
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:12:18am |
re: #116 subsailor68
OT
Beaver delivers some good news for Detroit
Rats, it wasn’t what I thought.
I was expecting this. What were you expecting?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:12:21am |
“The UN and related agencies must be given adequate authority and funding and put in the hands of leaders who have vision, courage and credibility,” wrote ElBaradei.
[Link: www.haaretz.com…]
n a broadside against the United States and Israel, he said: “Above all, we need to halt the glaring breach of core principles of international law such as limitations on the unilateral use of force, proportionality in self-defence and the protection of civilians during hostilities in order to avoid a repeat of the civilian carnage in Iraq and, most recently, in Gaza.”
Because you did such a cracker jack job with nuclear weapons, now your an expert on everything? Asshole!
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x-wing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:12:26am |
re: #114 CyanSnowHawk
So the chaining him to a hook in his bedroom wasn’t the part that ended the collaboration?
Boy George musta forgot the “safe-word”
/////
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realwest Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:12:44am |
re: #121 Ford_Prefect
Crossed wires then?! I was responding to Dave the….
comment in #33 to point out that while that one paragraph was accurate, it was necessarily (because it is from, after all, the Associated (with Terrrorists) Press)preceeded by the usual bullshit about the horrible Isralei’s.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:13:20am |
re: #117 vapig
No kidding! And the a$$hats in congress want us to be more like Europe? Yeah - f-ing no thanks, fascists!
On that disgusting CCC site that Coulter backs, I find this statement:
(2) We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:13:28am |
re: #116 subsailor68
OT
Beaver delivers some good news for Detroit
Rats, it wasn’t what I thought.
It wasn’t a rat, anyway. ;-p
Those game cams are pretty cool, and the Cuddebacks are the better kind (better than the Moultries). Motion- and/or heat-sensing, they snap a picture anytime they detect something, then store the picture on an SD card.
Now if they could just clean up the government in Detroit…
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:14:08am |
re: #116 subsailor68
Frank Drebin: Nice Beaver!
Jane Spencer: Thanks I just had it stuffed.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:14:22am |
re: #122 CyanSnowHawk
What more could you ask for, the story has got a picture of a big furry beaver.
And the article notes that:
Beaver trapping in the late 1700s was instrumental…
Heck, for me it was still instrumental in the 70’s and 80’s.
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debutaunt Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:14:30am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
The hardest working lyricist on LGF.
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albusteve Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:14:31am |
re: #124 vapig
I’m not sure, but from what I’ve heard (radio guy went over story this morning) 35% of Spain believes this and 1/3rd of all of Europe believes this.
Europe has such a great record concerning their treatment of Jews! You’d think they’d have learned their lesson!
time marches round in circles…it’s only relative from where you are in it….this will pass and then return again someday after our time has passed….peace is a frame of mind not and end in and of itself
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:14:33am |
re: #128 realwest
I wouldn’t expect anything else from the A**hat Press.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:15:11am |
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x-wing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:15:14am |
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realwest Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:15:14am |
Well it’s been grand as usual y’all but I gotta go eat some lunch.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:15:24am |
re: #122 CyanSnowHawk
What more could you ask for, the story has got a picture of a big furry beaver.
Check your feet, the beavers building a dam in torpedo tube #1
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:15:36am |
re: #133 buzzsawmonkey
Detroit has a government? Who knew?
Kwame has evacuated to here (Dallas). Pending an okay from the probation dept. in MI.
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debutaunt Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:15:38am |
re: #73 buzzsawmonkey
Would it make you feel better if I garnered some negative points by complaining about the ID threads, just for balance?
Got a funny song in ya?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:15:40am |
re: #130 Wishing
Please don’t link to them. Charles wouldn’t even do it on his earlier threads.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:16:26am |
re: #143 Ward Cleaver
Kwame has evacuated to here (Dallas). Pending an okay from the probation dept. in MI.
Good, Texas can have him.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:16:31am |
re: #141 realwest
Hi RW! Hope you have a wonderful day too!
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:16:46am |
re: #134 subsailor68
And the article notes that:
Beaver trapping in the late 1700s was instrumental…
Heck, for me it was still instrumental in the 70’s and 80’s.
Your showing your age?
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jcm Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:17:08am |
re: #38 Ojoe
OT Towercam - Snowstorm in Progress, Latitude 34.2 North - Get your red hot global warming !
A picture of Algore’s thought processes.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:17:12am |
re: #146 Honorary Yooper
Good, Texas can have him.
What I’ve heard is that he may go to work as a lobbyist. Imagine that.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:17:21am |
re: #134 subsailor68
And the article notes that:
Beaver trapping in the late 1700s was instrumental…
Heck, for me it was still instrumental in the 70’s and 80’s.
I knew I should have learned to play an instrument.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:17:26am |
re: #148 Nevergiveup
Your showing your age?
Eh? Can’t hear you. Wait a minute while I look for my ear trumpet.
;-)
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:17:47am |
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:18:29am |
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:18:50am |
re: #152 Ford_Prefect
I knew I should have learned to play an instrument.
Oh no, dude. I ain’t gonna touch that one.
:-)
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:19:13am |
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x-wing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:19:28am |
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:19:33am |
re: #157 subsailor68
Oh no, dude. I ain’t gonna touch that one.
:-)
Yeah, that’s what she said.
/hangs head in shame.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:19:33am |
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rightside Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:19:47am |
re: #139 subsailor68
June Cleaver: “Ward, don’t you think you were a little hard on the beaver last night?”
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:19:58am |
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jcm Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:20:37am |
re: #85 Honorary Yooper
Nah. I’d want the AK-47, mounted atop my car. I have to deal with rush hour later today.
/
For 40k he should get one of these…..
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claspur Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:20:58am |
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:22:38am |
Now for a little esoteric information:
Article says it went extinct about 10,000 years ago.
If it was in June of that year, it would have been right after my senior prom.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:22:39am |
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:23:09am |
re: #130 Wishing
On that disgusting CCC site that Coulter backs, I find this statement:
(2) We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.
link
This CCC thing is new to me. Had they said that the US is a western country with western values it would have been more accurate. Europe sucks!
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:23:22am |
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:23:22am |
re: #168 SasquatchOnSteroids
I’ll touch it !
- Bawney Fwank.
LOL! Yep, that was the instrument I was thinking of as well.
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damnyanqui Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:23:45am |
Yes. I love this too.
The fury over Gaza has centered around the hundreds of Palestinian civilians killed in the war, in which 13 Israelis also died. Israel says it could not avoid killing civilians because Gaza militants operate from residential areas, but critics accuse it of using disproportionate force in its war to halt rocket attacks on its territory.
So the Israelis engage in a military campaign that lasts a matter of days in response to thousands of rockets fired at their country over a period of years and that’s “disproportionate.”
Obviously they’ve got to stop doing that.
The “narrative” is very simple to understand: It’s okay to be a terrorist as long as you’re an incompetent terrorist. Each of those rockets could have murdered innocent civilians and was meant to murder innocent civilians.
…but because virtually none succeeded… it’s okay!
And any response to such incompetence, however homicidal the incomptetent terrorist was in intent, is “disproportionate.”
SO…
Here’s a simple way to make the whole equation much simpler and proportionate.
Instead of sitting for years and letting the terrorists bombard them with near impunity before taking massive action, the Israelis should just reply one-for-one to each individual rocket fired at their territory.
One terrorist rocket fired at Israel.
One Israeli rocket fired back.
Of course the Israeli rockets are much bigger and more accurate and have better range, so the cost to the terrorists will be vastly greater, but the connection would be much easier to draw.
The current Israeli approach is rather like slapping your dog and sticking him in the shed after he messes the floor and chews up the furniture for the 50th time, instead of letting him have it each time.
Animals need to have things explained to them in extremely simple and immediate ways.
And so it is with the terrorists.
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Wishing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:23:52am |
re: #169 vapig
This CCC thing is new to me. Had they said that the US is a western country with western values it would have been more accurate. Europe sucks!
No kidding!
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:24:15am |
re: #142 Dustyvet
Check your feet, the beavers building a dam in torpedo tube #1
Someone did say “Dam the torpedos.”
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:24:19am |
re: #167 subsailor68
Now for a little esoteric information:
Article says it went extinct about 10,000 years ago.
If it was in June of that year, it would have been right after my senior prom.
Now we getting someplace…
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:24:32am |
re: #155 ploome hineni
It wasn’t just a few million Jews, Ploome. It was political enemies, priests, nuns, Rom (who got hit hardest of all percentage-wise), handicapped, and many others. Yeah, I’d say Europe sufferred and didn’t fully learn.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:25:53am |
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claspur Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:26:22am |
re: #168 SasquatchOnSteroids
I heard Bawney Fwank was spitting across the table, on Meet the Depressed, or some-such Sunday morning news show?
I can’t watch the whole bunch of these clowns, myself…. *spit
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:26:24am |
re: #155 ploome hineni
what lesson? Europe ‘suffered’ because of the German war
no one suffered because of the way they treated, (complied with the nazis) their Jew citizens
Europe got rid of a few million Jews and look at all the Jew property they now own
You are, of course, correct. But the shame of treating an entire people so barbarically should be a collective shame to all of them. Even to those who did nothing to hinder it.
That they are repeating this behavior is doubly damnable!
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Natasha Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:26:40am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
AK47, definitely. Lots of fun, those. And you don’t really have to worry about cleaning them too much.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:26:49am |
re: #169 vapig
This CCC thing is new to me. Had they said that the US is a western country with western values it would have been more accurate. Europe sucks!
So, you would have been happy if the statement read like this…
“We believe the United States is a Western country and that Americans are part of the Western people. We believe that the United States derives from and is an integral part of Western civilization and the Western people and that the American people and government should remain Western in their composition and character. We therefore oppose the massive immigration of non-Western peoples into the United States that threatens to transform our nation into a non-Western majority in our lifetime. We believe that illegal immigration must be stopped, if necessary by military force and placing troops on our national borders; that illegal aliens must be returned to their own countries; and that legal immigration must be severely restricted or halted through appropriate changes in our laws and policies. We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the Western-American people through so-called “affirmative action” and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the Western-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races.”
I replace European with Western.
(Edited from the CCC mission statement)
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astronmr20 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:26:53am |
re: #116 subsailor68
OT
Beaver delivers some good news for Detroit
Rats, it wasn’t what I thought.
They will soon learn that beavers are not a good thing.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:27:01am |
re: #163 rightside
June Cleaver: “Ward, don’t you think you were a little hard on the beaver last night?”
The single dirtiest thing ever said in prime time TV, until that ShamWow guy said, “You’ll love my nuts.”
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lobo91 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:27:15am |
re: #126 Nevergiveup
“Above all, we need to halt the glaring breach of core principles of international law such as limitations on the unilateral use of force, proportionality in self-defence and the protection of civilians during hostilities in order to avoid a repeat of the civilian carnage in Iraq and, most recently, in Gaza.”
El Baradei intentionally misrepresents the principle of “proportionality” in this statement (not surprisingly).
Contrary to common belief, there is no requirement that a party acting in self-defense use force that is “proportional” to what was used against them. If there were, wars would go on forever. All we could have done to Japan, for example, is bomb one of their harbors and sink a few ships.
The actual requirement under international law is that the ue of force be proportional to the military objective. For example, if your objective is to take out a sniper who’s shooting at you from the top of a bulding, carpet bombing the entire village full of civilians is not proportional force. Dropping a 500 lb bomb on the building, however, is, even though a 500 lob bomb is grossly disproportionate to a sniper rifle.
El Baradei is a lawyer, and he is undoubtedly aware of this principle.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:27:16am |
re: #175 Dustyvet
Now we getting someplace…
[Link: i.pbase.com…]
Hmmm….I get a Forbidden notice on that one.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:28:05am |
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:28:15am |
re: #177 taxfreekiller
Of some note:
On a lark, went to the New York Times web site, searched
Muzzammil Hassan, the head chopper.
[Link: www.newyorktimes.com…]
Found two articles from the time when he made news of the new venture in 2004, but none of the head chopping.
is my search lacking or does the New York Times hide information from the public,,
sarcastic
They didn’t want to publish an article because it would, you know, make Muslims “look bad.”
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Erik The Red Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:28:30am |
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:28:47am |
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:28:51am |
re: #184 CyanSnowHawk
The single dirtiest thing ever said in prime time TV, until that ShamWow guy said, “You’ll love my nuts.”
Oh I don’t know—Grouch ” I love my cigar, but I take it out of my mouth now and then” in response to a women how had a lot of kids and loved her husband.
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Natasha Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:29:41am |
Back on topic, it is good to see that the IDF released the actual figures. I am so sick and tired of outright lies by the MF media (thanks, Mandy!) and by Hamassholes, that most of the time go uncontested. It is appalling to see so-called liberals bow down to the most non-liberal organizations and regimes, and lie on their behalf.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:29:49am |
re: #194 Nevergiveup
Oh I don’t know—Grouch ” I love my cigar, but I take it out of my mouth now and then” in response to a women how had a lot of kids and loved her husband.
I wonder what Groucho would say to Octo Mom
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:30:07am |
re: #183 astronmr20
They will soon learn that beavers are not a good thing.
Say you! Or did you mean the rodents that cause havoc with the waterways?
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JHW Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:30:10am |
re: #191 buzzsawmonkey
They’d probably have had to cut down all the redwoods though, so the enviros would still piss and moan.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:30:35am |
re: #191 buzzsawmonkey
If a few of them had still been around in the 1930s, Boulder Dam and Grand Coulee could have been built in an environmentally friendly fashion.
/Green off
Hmmm…good point. Could have gone to bed one night, gotten up the next morning, looked out the window and said, “Hey! Where’d that cool-ass dam come from? Wasn’t there yesterday.”
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:30:44am |
What’s black and blue and goes tha-dump, tha-dump, tha-dump?
A Beaver in a dryer.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:30:49am |
re: #198 CyanSnowHawk
Say you! Or did you mean the rodents that cause havoc with the waterways?
Say’s you.
PIMF.
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Kragar Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:30:53am |
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debutaunt Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:30:57am |
re: #197 buzzsawmonkey
Wasn’t the ShamWow an instance of teabagging the question?
OR -where are you?
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:31:37am |
re: #182 Walter L. Newton
So, you would have been happy if the statement read like this…
“We believe the United States is a Western country and that Americans are part of the Western people. We believe that the United States derives from and is an integral part of Western civilization and the Western people and that the American people and government should remain Western in their composition and character. We therefore oppose the massive immigration of non-Western peoples into the United States that threatens to transform our nation into a non-Western majority in our lifetime. We believe that illegal immigration must be stopped, if necessary by military force and placing troops on our national borders; that illegal aliens must be returned to their own countries; and that legal immigration must be severely restricted or halted through appropriate changes in our laws and policies. We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the Western-American people through so-called “affirmative action” and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the Western-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races.”
I replace European with Western.
(Edited from the CCC mission statement)
There ya go - attack! attack! attack! Was I unclear in my statement that the CCC was new to me? Did you see the little snippet that was linked? But, by all means - infer that I’m some sort of racist!
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:31:49am |
re: #53 buzzsawmonkey
Hoooeeeeee! Three more karma points to hit 40,000.
Should I trade them in for the bicycle or the AK-47?
A better return rate than Citigroup and Enron combined!
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:32:36am |
re: #195 Natasha
Back on topic, it is good to see that the IDF released the actual figures. I am so sick and tired of outright lies by the MF media (thanks, Mandy!) and by Hamassholes, that most of the time go uncontested. It is appalling to see so-called liberals bow down to the most non-liberal organizations and regimes, and lie on their behalf.
Hi Natasha. How was Valentine’s Day? Did you take over the officer’s club?
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RebelDebater Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:32:38am |
re: #6 Bloodnok
So, 300 (actual noncombatant deaths) vs. 900 (stated by Hamas). I’m surprised Hamas stayed so low. They could have said 5,000 and the wolrd media would have bought it.
They were in a more peckish mood I suppose…but way to go UN pussies for using the Hamas numbers in like 1,000 public statements….
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:33:44am |
re: #201 ploome hineni
they are not ashamed, lol
hey simply deny
They do better than that - they have removed all reference to that period from their public schools. Easiest way to repeat an atrocity is to pretend it never happened in the first place!
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Wishing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:34:10am |
Errands to run. Stuff to buy. Nap to take. Later!
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Erik The Red Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:34:21am |
re: #202 Dustyvet
What’s black and blue and goes tha-dump, tha-dump, tha-dump?
A Beaver in a dryer.
Dude that is bad///
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:34:43am |
re: #207 vapig
There ya go - attack! attack! attack! Was I unclear in my statement that the CCC was new to me? Did you see the little snippet that was linked? But, by all means - infer that I’m some sort of racist!
I never called you anything. I was pointing out what you said and how that would sound when held up against their mission statement.
Now you know, right?
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:34:44am |
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:34:58am |
re: #210 RebelDebater
They were in a more peckish mood I suppose…but way to go UN pussies for using the Hamas numbers in like 1,000 public statements….
And of the 300 how many were shields or put in danger by intentional placement of rocket launchers, mortar launchers, bombs and Hamas officials?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:35:06am |
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opinionated Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:35:19am |
Example. Anas Naim, a nephew of Hamas Health Minister Bassem Naim, who was killed on Jan. 4 in Gaza City, was described in Palestinian reports as a ‘medic.’
Picture
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
That Israel “kills” medics is headline news worldwide. That the “medic” was in fact a Hamas combatant is …….well… it’s at the Jerusalem Post….and here.
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:35:26am |
re: #167 subsailor68
Now for a little esoteric information:
Article says it went extinct about 10,000 years ago.
If it was in June of that year, it would have been right after my senior prom.
I thought those went out of style after the 70s?
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Natasha Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:35:35am |
re: #209 Bloodnok
Hi Natasha. How was Valentine’s Day? Did you take over the officer’s club?
Heh… We were basically the only ones there. We raised some minor hell there, then went to another bar, that was a bit livelier. Then hopped on over to a really fun biker bar, there was a live band, and the people were very cool. Saw some phenomenal tattoos on some, and got to meet the artist who did it. So, overall the night was a blast.
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Truck Monkey Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:35:44am |
re: #122 CyanSnowHawk
What more could you ask for, the story has got a picture of a big furry beaver.
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MJ Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:37:26am |
Sorry if it’s been posted:
Livni: Give up half of ‘Land of Israel’
JERUSALEM – Tzipi Livni, who hopes to be appointed Israel’s prime minister-designate, said Monday Israel must give up considerable territory in exchange for peace with the Palestinians, drawing a clear distinction with her rival, Benjamin Netanyahu.
She told a convention of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Organizations, “we need to give up half of the Land of Israel,” using a term that refers to biblical borders that include today’s Israel, the West Bank and Gaza.
She explained that such a withdrawal would be for the good of Israel, to maintain it as a Jewish state.
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
Be better if they gave up all of Livni.
Israel: Where appeasement lives.
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:37:29am |
Hmmm… my Senator just answered my angry letter about the stimulus bill:
Dear citizen, while the inevitable was not unexpected, the fan was positioned closer to the effluent chute than previously anticipated. We are trying to retain the moral high ground but Newt Gingrich’s message machine said he was busy re-reading “Winston Churchill: the wilderness years” and would not be available for counsel until 2010. Oracles sent to the Reagan gravesite were instantly immolated from friction generated heat caused by record GGTs (Gipper Grave Turnovers).
In some positive economic news dollar-meals, apple polish and sandwich board sales are all up.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you, your children, your children’s children, ad infinitum…
The Grand Old Party
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:37:53am |
Indonesian ulema tell Muslims to vote or go to hell
Parliamentary and presidential elections in Indonesia this year may hinge on how the public reacts to a directive from the country’s top Islamic council –all Muslims must vote or risk going to hell.
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:38:03am |
re: #220 Natasha
Heh… We were basically the only ones there. We raised some minor hell there, then went to another bar, that was a bit livelier. Then hopped on over to a really fun biker bar, there was a live band, and the people were very cool. Saw some phenomenal tattoos on some, and got to meet the artist who did it. So, overall the night was a blast.
Biker bars are always fun. In college there was a biker bar just off campus. They ignored our little preppy group of annoying “kids” and let us have our fun.
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:38:39am |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
I never called you anything. I was pointing out what you said and how that would sound when held up against their mission statement.
Now you know, right?
Actually not what you said! You inferred that I’d feel better with western replaced for European to a whole racist scree. Thus, you judged. Since I’ve never ever expressed such sentiments here I’m not feeling particularly forgiving of the hyperbole.
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Natasha Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:39:16am |
re: #217 Nevergiveup
I went to Borders yesterday (a friend wanted to go, I just tagged along). The Obama worship there, pardon the lame pun, borders on the absurd.
I must say, I have not shopped in a bookstore since I don’t remember when, and it’s a Good Thing™. For me, it’s Amazon and Half.com as well as some other, lesser known book sellers online.
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x-wing Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:39:24am |
re: #205 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Cute that was. We used to try to catch them when I was in Germany. Quick little buggers.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:40:03am |
re: #225 Bloodnok
Biker bars are always fun. In college there was a biker bar just off campus. They ignored our little preppy group of annoying “kids” and let us have our fun.
Now that’s a preppy…:)
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:40:56am |
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:41:01am |
re: #217 Nevergiveup
Borders’ Obamessiah moment
[Link: hotair.com…]
I never shop at Borders. Another reason not to.
“You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity”
Robert A. Heinlein’s 1941 short story “Logic of Empire”
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:41:08am |
re: #226 vapig
Actually not what you said! You inferred that I’d feel better with western replaced for European to a whole racist scree. Thus, you judged. Since I’ve never ever expressed such sentiments here I’m not feeling particularly forgiving of the hyperbole.
Research a subject before you make a pronouncement. I didn’t infer anything. You made the original statement, I pointed out that your statement was problematic. Sorry, I was only trying to give you some further information on the CCC.
Really, sorry.
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:41:15am |
re: #222 MJ
Sorry if it’s been posted:
Livni: Give up half of ‘Land of Israel’
JERUSALEM – Tzipi Livni, who hopes to be appointed Israel’s prime minister-designate, said Monday Israel must give up considerable territory in exchange for peace with the Palestinians, drawing a clear distinction with her rival, Benjamin Netanyahu.
She told a convention of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Organizations, “we need to give up half of the Land of Israel,” using a term that refers to biblical borders that include today’s Israel, the West Bank and Gaza.
She explained that such a withdrawal would be for the good of Israel, to maintain it as a Jewish state.
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]Be better if they gave up all of Livni.
Israel: Where appeasement lives.
Is this woman insane? Since when has Israel giving up land ever given them a moments worth of peace?
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kansas Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:42:18am |
re: #217 Nevergiveup
Borders’ Obamessiah moment
[Link: hotair.com…]
I never shop at Borders. Another reason not to.
I think that’s perfect. Either that or under Fiction…..bad Fiction.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:42:34am |
SAT QUESTION
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Nevergiveup Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:42:46am |
re: #233 vapig
Is this woman insane? Since when has Israel giving up land ever given them a moments worth of peace?
But I bet Obama loves it?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:43:11am |
re: #227 Natasha
I went to Borders yesterday (a friend wanted to go, I just tagged along). The Obama worship there, pardon the lame pun, borders on the absurd.
I must say, I have not shopped in a bookstore since I don’t remember when, and it’s a Good Thing™. For me, it’s Amazon and Half.com as well as some other, lesser known book sellers online.
I do shop at Border’s. I used to work for the other big chain company and have good reason to not shop there anymore. I also used to work at, and even managed, independent bookstores. I don’t tend to find Border’s to be too obviously biased. Right now I am sure that you will find plenty of displays of books about Obama, but that is perfectly understandable when you consider the interest in him right now. Border’s is, after all, trying to sell books.
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:43:21am |
re: #217 Nevergiveup
Borders’ Obamessiah moment
[Link: hotair.com…]
I never shop at Borders. Another reason not to.
That Religion shelf could use some Darwin books.
///
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claspur Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:44:07am |
Someone told me about Walter days after getting-in, to be able to post here…
The other night, that same person was warned about me.
What’s with this site? I’m not a enemy….and probably, neither is Walter.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:44:17am |
re: #226 vapig
Actually not what you said! You inferred that I’d feel better with western replaced for European to a whole racist scree. Thus, you judged. Since I’ve never ever expressed such sentiments here I’m not feeling particularly forgiving of the hyperbole.
And YOU MENTIONED REPLACING EUROPEAN WITH WESTERN. Your statement itself implied that you had read the mission statement of the CCC. Other wise why would you suggest the replacement? How am I to know what you DON’T know and what you do know, when you are making a statement that suggest changes to an ideology.
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opinionated Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:44:27am |
re: #107 Ward Cleaver
Barack Hugo Obama.
I don’t go for the theories that Obama will be some sort of dictator- he can’t in our system of Government- but he did prove to me this weekend that he sure has the arrogance of one.
He is been in office just a month and he went to [vacation in]Chicago.
I read where the White House says he will be going to Chicago nearly every month. Hey, he likes Chicago. He has friends there. His favorite barber is there. We can all understand that, right.
But. He is President and when he travels he screws up the lives of many many people. Thousands are inconvenienced. Traffic is snarled.
You would think he would show some courtesy to the “little” people he claims to hear and represent. Maybe get a haircut closer to home. Maybe think of other people.
I imagine all he feels is the prerogative of Royalty.
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:44:33am |
re: #232 Walter L. Newton
Research a subject before you make a pronouncement. I didn’t infer anything. You made the original statement, I pointed out that your statement was problematic. Sorry, I was only trying to give you some further information on the CCC.
Really, sorry.
Then you should have said so and not presented the additional information in such an insulting fashion.
That being said, I will certainly relent in my ire and accept the offering of the additional information in the spirit it was apparently offered.
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Natasha Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:44:34am |
re: #229 Dustyvet
Now that’s a preppy…:)
[Link: media.bigoo.ws…]
Cute kitteh! I miss my two meowing demons at home. Right now, I only get to see them when the cat-sitter sends me pics to my phone.
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astronmr20 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:45:55am |
re: #229 Dustyvet
Now that’s a preppy…:)
[Link: media.bigoo.ws…]
Preppeh kitteh iz thinkin about killin you in ur sleepz.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:46:36am |
re: #239 claspur
Someone told me about Walter days after getting-in, to be able to post here…
The other night, that same person was warned about me.
What’s with this site? I’m not a enemy….and probably, neither is Walter.
I really don’t need your help. Vapid and I are having a disagreement on what was posted and we are working through it.
And some people here have a reason not to like my comments. I am short and two the point, and many times I over step a bit.
Really, I’ve read some of you comments, and I don’t want your help.
Sorry.
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Natasha Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:46:41am |
re: #237 Ford_Prefect
I do shop at Border’s. I used to work for the other big chain company and have good reason to not shop there anymore. I also used to work at, and even managed, independent bookstores. I don’t tend to find Border’s to be too obviously biased. Right now I am sure that you will find plenty of displays of books about Obama, but that is perfectly understandable when you consider the interest in him right now. Border’s is, after all, trying to sell books.
That is a very good point. It is capitalism, after all. I do appreciate the irony of money being made off commies. I just prefer to shop online because a) I am lazy; b) I am stingy.
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DaddyG Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:46:43am |
re: #241 opinionated
I don’t go for the theories that Obama will be some sort of dictator- he can’t in our system of Government- but he did prove to me this weekend that he sure has the arrogance of one.
He is been in office just a month and he went to [vacation in]Chicago.
I read where the White House says he will be going to Chicago nearly every month. Hey, he likes Chicago. He has friends there. His favorite barber is there. We can all understand that, right.
But. He is President and when he travels he screws up the lives of many many people. Thousands are inconvenienced. Traffic is snarled.
You would think he would show some courtesy to the “little” people he claims to hear and represent. Maybe get a haircut closer to home. Maybe think of other people.
I imagine all he feels is the prerogative of Royalty.
Don’t forget paying regular homage to Saul Alinsky’s birthplace.
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Bloodnok Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:47:15am |
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:47:24am |
re: #236 Nevergiveup
But I bet Obama loves it?
I have a feeling that if Israel ceases to exist during his administration he’ll consider it his greatest achievement, whether he’s responsible with his policies, or they implode all by themselves.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:47:38am |
re: #243 Natasha
Cute kitteh! I miss my two meowing demons at home. Right now, I only get to see them when the cat-sitter sends me pics to my phone.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:47:52am |
re: #242 vapig
Then you should have said so and not presented the additional information in such an insulting fashion.
That being said, I will certainly relent in my ire and accept the offering of the additional information in the spirit it was apparently offered.
Ok, I really wasn’t trying to suggest anything about you, but I was trying to make a point, a bit dramatically, maybe at your expense.
Like I said, not my real intention.
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Erik The Red Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:48:36am |
re: #239 claspur
Someone told me about Walter days after getting-in, to be able to post here…
The other night, that same person was warned about me.
What’s with this site? I’m not a enemy….and probably, neither is Walter.
Go find a site that you are comfortable at. We have seen nothing from you that adds value here. All you do is bitch about peeps here.
I am done with you
GAZE.
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vapig Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:48:55am |
re: #246 Walter L. Newton
I really don’t need your help. Vapid and I are having a disagreement on what was posted and we are working through it.
And some people here have a reason not to like my comments. I am short and two the point, and many times I over step a bit.
Really, I’ve read some of you comments, and I don’t want your help.
Sorry.
Now I’m vapid? I was willing to let bygones be bygones, but you can’t seem to help yourself, can you?
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Natasha Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:49:41am |
re: #251 Dustyvet
[Link: api.ning.com…]
Awwww! And he is orange, too! OK, any more cute kittehs, and the sweetness overload will start causing cavities.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:50:02am |
re: #255 vapig
Now I’m vapid? I was willing to let bygones be bygones, but you can’t seem to help yourself, can you?
I’m sorry, I misspelt your screen name.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:50:45am |
re: #255 vapig
Now I’m vapid? I was willing to let bygones be bygones, but you can’t seem to help yourself, can you?
And really, give it a rest. I misspelt it, chill a bit please.
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debutaunt Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:51:03am |
re: #247 Natasha
That is a very good point. It is capitalism, after all. I do appreciate the irony of money being made off commies. I just prefer to shop online because a) I am lazy; b) I am stingy.
You can order a book and someone brings it right to your front door. It has a magical feel to it.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:52:50am |
re: #239 claspur
Someone told me about Walter days after getting-in, to be able to post here…
The other night, that same person was warned about me.
What’s with this site? I’m not a enemy….and probably, neither is Walter.
re: #246 Walter L. Newton
(Hi Walter! Saw your post, and I know you sure don’t need my help either, but just want to reply to him anyway.)
Claspur, I’ve been reading Walter’s posts for a long time, and both enjoy ‘em and usually learn something. He’s a writer. All that means is that you need to be clear on what you’re saying (nope, he doesn’t seem to ping on folks’ grammar or spelling - but you’d better be on point). He also asks folks to back up what they say with a reference or two…and that’s also a good thing.
Just sayin’.
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opnion Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:53:58am |
re: #241 opinionated
I don’t go for the theories that Obama will be some sort of dictator- he can’t in our system of Government- but he did prove to me this weekend that he sure has the arrogance of one.
He is been in office just a month and he went to [vacation in]Chicago.
I read where the White House says he will be going to Chicago nearly every month. Hey, he likes Chicago. He has friends there. His favorite barber is there. We can all understand that, right.
But. He is President and when he travels he screws up the lives of many many people. Thousands are inconvenienced. Traffic is snarled.
You would think he would show some courtesy to the “little” people he claims to hear and represent. Maybe get a haircut closer to home. Maybe think of other people.
I imagine all he feels is the prerogative of Royalty.
To let youi now just how considerate Obama is of the little people, when he set up his ‘President Elect” office in Chicago it was in Federal Plaza in the Loop. He has liking for Deli from Manny’s , a Chicago institution. One afternoon, Barry went there with the whole motorcade to pick up carry out.
He could have sent anyone , but no, he screwed up traffic & of course got applauded when he entered the restaurant.
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Dustyvet Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:54:09am |
re: #256 Natasha
Awwww! And he is orange, too! OK, any more cute kittehs, and the sweetness overload will start causing cavities.
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Kragar Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:54:59am |
re: #222 MJ
Sorry if it’s been posted:
Livni: Give up half of ‘Land of Israel’
JERUSALEM – Tzipi Livni, who hopes to be appointed Israel’s prime minister-designate, said Monday Israel must give up considerable territory in exchange for peace with the Palestinians, drawing a clear distinction with her rival, Benjamin Netanyahu.
She told a convention of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Organizations, “we need to give up half of the Land of Israel,” using a term that refers to biblical borders that include today’s Israel, the West Bank and Gaza.
She explained that such a withdrawal would be for the good of Israel, to maintain it as a Jewish state.
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]Be better if they gave up all of Livni.
Israel: Where appeasement lives.
Has she negotiated whay days they’ll allow murder and rape yet?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:55:29am |
re: #260 subsailor68
re: #246 Walter L. Newton
(Hi Walter! Saw your post, and I know you sure don’t need my help either, but just want to reply to him anyway.)
Claspur, I’ve been reading Walter’s posts for a long time, and both enjoy ‘em and usually learn something. He’s a writer. All that means is that you need to be clear on what you’re saying (nope, he doesn’t seem to ping on folks’ grammar or spelling - but you’d better be on point). He also asks folks to back up what they say with a reference or two…and that’s also a good thing.
Just sayin’.
Thanks. And of course, I make mistakes, and I rant and there are times I am down right wrong in the way I treat certain Lizards. But that’s life and that’s what makes us adults, especially if we can understand when we fall short and make amends. And I do apologize or retract my comments when I have overstepped.
Thanks again.
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claspur Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:56:14am |
re: #254 Erik The Red
Go find a site that you are comfortable at. We have seen nothing from you that adds value here. All you do is bitch about peeps here.
I am done with you
GAZE.
I’ve never bee’yutched about any one in here, Eric.
All Charles might want to do, is go-back and review anything I’ve ever said in here.
He’ll see I’ve never been out of line, ever.
Maybe you should go look at another site, Eric?
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lobo91 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:56:42am |
re: #259 debutaunt
You can order a book and someone brings it right to your front door. It has a magical feel to it.
The only thing better is having a Kindle.
You click on a couple of links, and the book shows up in your hands in about a minute.
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Lincolntf Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:56:54am |
re: #233 vapig
It never has and it never will.
I’ll support Israel forever, but I’m growing jaded by their seeming indifference to their own plight.
It’s time for the Israelis to grow up. We’re rapidly approaching a day when Iran will be able to slaughter vast swaths of the Israeli populace at the push of a button. Israel is surrounded by enemies who alternate between rocket attacks and suicide bombers in their quest to rid the world of Jews.
Whatever negatives accrue to Israel for acting decisively (UN condemnation, MSM tut-tuts, Academic paeans to the suffering of the “refugees”) they will be far easier to bear than the consequences of not acting.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:57:30am |
re: #266 lobo91
The only thing better is having a Kindle.
You click on a couple of links, and the book shows up in your hands in about a minute.
Estimated delivery for mine is Feb 26th.
i can’t wait.
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subsailor68 Mon, Feb 16, 2009 10:58:49am |
re: #264 Walter L. Newton
Thanks. And of course, I make mistakes, and I rant and there are times I am down right wrong in the way I treat certain Lizards. But that’s life and that’s what makes us adults, especially if we can understand when we fall short and make amends. And I do apologize or retract my comments when I have overstepped.
Thanks again.
No thanks needed! And I’ve seen you apologize when you thought it needed….and a couple of times when it wasn’t.
;-)
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debutaunt Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:03:37am |
re: #266 lobo91
The only thing better is having a Kindle.
You click on a couple of links, and the book shows up in your hands in about a minute.
Ohhh that sounds so nice! Seriously thinking about it.
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Natasha Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:05:03am |
re: #271 debutaunt
Ohhh that sounds so nice! Seriously thinking about it.
I just might break down and shell out the $350 or whatever for it. Sounds like a nifty little gadget to have.
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Erik The Red Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:10:00am |
re: #265 claspur
I’ve never bee’yutched about any one in here, Eric.
All Charles might want to do, is go-back and review anything I’ve ever said in here.
He’ll see I’ve never been out of line, ever.Maybe you should go look at another site, Eric?
Mandy
Walter
Erik The RedMM again
There are more but for the last time GAZE ASSHOLE.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:10:16am |
(post-posted from the following thread)
In honor of the IDF’s report on casualties,
… I have put up my Hamas Mouse avatar again.
This one’s modified — much more explicit.
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debutaunt Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:10:44am |
re: #272 Natasha
I just might break down and shell out the $350 or whatever for it. Sounds like a nifty little gadget to have.
I always delay and say I’m waiting for it to be perfected.
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mean Gene Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:13:55am |
re: #103 realwest
Huh, I wonder where this came from: “Vietnam, these casualty figures are astoundingly low for civilian casualties, which run in the 80-99% range”?
I think the sentence was poorly written.
Viet Nam had high civilian casualties (in the 80-90% range) while GAZA had the astoundingly low per cent of ~33%
Look at it in the original context.
But I do the same thing in writing weirdly phrased long sentences.
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transient Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:15:30am |
As a consequence of the false information, he added, the IDF was considering setting up a “response team” for future conflicts whose job would be to collect information, analyze it and issue reports as rapidly as possible that refuted Hamas fabrications.
They’re only figuring this out NOW? You’d have thought they’d learned from Lebanon II. This should have been on the ground active for THIS conflict.
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transient Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:20:06am |
From Jpost:
During the Gaza offensive, which ended on January 18, teams collected data on how the homemade rockets and the military-grade Katyushas fired by Gaza terrorists behaved in different weather conditions and how they were picked up by Iron Dome’s radar, which is already online, the officials said.
The system is being designed as an answer to the Gaza rocket fire….
The system will work by picking up incoming rockets and firing an interceptor. Iron Dome has been criticized by some experts because of its cost…and because it needs 15 seconds to respond, too long to stop rockets from hitting targets adjacent to Gaza.
Several Israeli tanks were fitted with the Wind Coat, a new system that detects anti-tank rockets and intercepts them in midair.
Wow. It’s so…Star Trek!
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Feb 16, 2009 11:35:37am |
re: #116 subsailor68
OT
Beaver delivers some good news for Detroit
Rats, it wasn’t what I thought.
subsailor -
Methinks Detroit would swap the Beaver for a 15-16 Million Vehicle Sales Year.
-S-
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mikeytrix Mon, Feb 16, 2009 12:07:50pm |
A drive by post…sorry if this mentioned ad naseum above, but what do you expect from the professional army in the world?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Feb 16, 2009 4:05:07pm |
re: #130 Wishing
On that disgusting CCC site that Coulter backs, I find this statement:
(2) We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people.
Smile when you say that.
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yochanan Mon, Feb 16, 2009 4:40:21pm |
re: #18 Nevergiveup
Jordan’s king discusses peace with Sen. John Kerry
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]
I was discussing the same thing with my 3 cats this morning, but they displayed particular disdain for the Arab position?
YOU REALLY SHOULDN’T TALK TO A CAT WHEN IT IS IN IT’S LITTERBOX.
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