I like deep green.

where's a fractal grunion when you need one?

re: #1 Sharmuta

I like deep green.

So do I. Emerald Green is my favorite color.

Indigo Blue

re: #4 Gus 802

Indigo Blue

Indigo Children!

/Jenny McCarthy

re: #5 ArchangelMichael

Indigo Children!

/Jenny McCarthy

I don't get it.

re: #5 ArchangelMichael

Indigo Children!

/Jenny McCarthy

Wow, I learn something new everyday.

We're back in public? Hang on, gotta get dressed....
LOVE Maxfield Parrish!

"Now Nobody can say that I don't own John Laroquette's spine!"

-Bender, Futurama

re: #8 Floral Giraffe

What kind of format were you thinking of using for your re-naming of pink freud?

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

I don't get it.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It was here new age hooey explanation she subscribed to for autism and Asperger's syndrome before she became the messiah of the Anti-vaxxers.

OK, good linky with info.
NOT Wikipedia.
(Can someone provide a rude yet polite name for WIKI indicating it's inaccuracies?)

[Link: eyelevel.si.edu...]

re: #8 Floral Giraffe

We're back in public? Hang on, gotta get dressed....
LOVE Maxfield Parrish!

i love the sunsets that every so often replicate his paintings.... i call them "sherbert colors", but even that doesn't describe them.

dinner is always late on those evenings. %-)

re: #11 ArchangelMichael

It was her...

PIMF

re: #4 Gus 802

Folks were birdwatchers, I'm not into it. I WOULD like to see one of those!

Good evening everyone!

Howdy, embroidered fawn :-)

(in deference to slokat)

Fenway: *tie-dyed tarantula*? LOVE IT!

re: #10 srb1976

What kind of format were you thinking of using for your re-naming of pink freud?

the usual choices include: tacky, tasteless, punny......

Deep Purple....

re: #17 redc1c4

the usual choices include: tacky, tasteless, punny......

Was wondering if we were looking for color/shrink or a play on a band name....would be hard to come up with both @ once

Egypt

re: #15 Floral Giraffe

Folks were birdwatchers, I'm not into it. I WOULD like to see one of those!

Pretty isn't it? Saw a Yellow Finch once.

re: #17 redc1c4

the usual choices include: tacky, tasteless, punny......

HEY!

/you misspelled puny :P

re: #21 Gus 802

Pretty isn't it? Saw a Yellow Finch once.

i've got a yard full of them..... want a few?

re: #22 pink freud

HEY!

/you misspelled puny :P

Have you tried the anagram generator?

Fried Punk
Fired Punk
Funked Rip
Refund Kip
Pinked Fur
Pride Funk
Pried Funk
Duper Fink
Drupe Fink

[Link: wordsmith.org...]

I can only discern about 6 colors. Are there more?

re: #11 ArchangelMichael

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It was her new age hooey explanation she subscribed to for autism and Asperger's syndrome before she became the messiah of the Anti-vaxxers.

Thank you. Jenny McCarthy = Stuck on Stupid

re: #22 pink freud

HEY!

/you misspelled puny :P

must have been a freudian slip, if you noticed it. %-)

re: #18 Sharmuta

Smoke on the Water.

I missed the fact that we jumped...

How about: Reddish Hobbes?

re: #23 redc1c4

i've got a yard full of them..... want a few?

No pets building. Doh!

re: #21 Gus 802

We have gold finches here, almost as common as house finches, I love their song! And I once saw a migrating Mountain Blue Bird! It wasn't as blue as your bird, but it was close!

re: #28 BatGuano

Smoke on the Water.

My Woman From Tokyo

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

OK, good linky with info.
NOT Wikipedia.
(Can someone provide a rude yet polite name for WIKI indicating it's inaccuracies?)

Shtick-i-pedia?

/to reflect that many of the articles are peddling some shtick or other....

re: #16 pink freud

Glad you like it....I seem to be running out, so alot of this is being made up on the fly.

re: #30 Gus 802

No pets building. Doh!

hang a nyjer feeder......

Did Occasional Reader ever check in after the train wreck in Washington? (I've been out of the loop the last few hours)

The Reluctant Dragon

re: #13 redc1c4

i love the sunsets that every so often replicate his paintings.... i call them "sherbert colors", but even that doesn't describe them.

dinner is always late on those evenings. %-)

salmon, iridescent blue, gold that you can't reproduce, etc., etc.

re: #34 Fenway_Nation

Glad you like it....I seem to be running out, so alot of this is being made up on the fly.

just winging it, eh?

re: #31 Floral Giraffe

We have gold finches here, almost as common as house finches, I love their song! And I once saw a migrating Mountain Blue Bird! It wasn't as blue as your bird, but it was close!

I didn't know they were that common. Nice. I've never seen a blue bird such as that other than the common Blue Jay. Used to see those a lot in South Jersey. Now a Cardinal has a great red coloring. Used to see those a once in a while.

re: #32 redc1c4

My woman from tokyo
She makes me see
My woman from tokyo
Shes so good to me

re: #1 Sharmuta

I like deep green.

I like you.

re: #35 redc1c4

hang a nyjer feeder......

True. But then it creates a bird seed pile down below and bird droppings. You know... apartments.

Joan From Mad men, wowza

re: #44 pegcity

Joan From Mad men, wowza

How'd we go from bluebirds to a red Bird?

*puts on the ripped jeans*

You said it was an open thread!

re: #44 pegcity

Joan From Mad men, wowza

I thought she looked familiar...it's Saffron from Firefly = )

re: #45 slokat

How'd we go from bluebirds to a red Bird?

a yellow bird
with a yellow bill
was sitting on
my window sill............

re: #46 wiffersnapper

*puts on the ripped jeans*

You said it was an open thread!

SurferDoc?

re: #45 slokat

How'd we go from bluebirds to a red Bird?

How about a yellow bird?

re: #46 wiffersnapper

*puts on the ripped jeans*

You said it was an open thread!

Red Yellow Blue

"... did she seduce you too?"

I'm going to sign off for the evening. I'll be back in the morning. Good night, lizards. Play nice.

re: #51 slokat

;)

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

I'm going to sign off for the evening. I'll be back in the morning. Good night, lizards. Play nice.

Later DF.

Martial-arts enrollment up in Egypt- which just might correspond with the increase in sexual harassment.

/Wonder if Krav Maga is taught there.

re: #50 BatGuano

How about a yellow bird?

It's amazing to those steel drums being played, isn't it. We once stored a marimba here for about a year and this was the only song I ever perfected on that thing.

Gonna try to get some sleep.
Good night, blackbirds.

re: #55 Fenway_Nation

Martial-arts enrollment up in Egypt- which just might correspond with the increase in sexual harassment.

/Wonder if Krav Maga is taught there.

that wouldn't be kosher.....

re: #55 Fenway_Nation

Martial-arts enrollment up in Egypt- which just might correspond with the increase in sexual harassment.

/Wonder if Krav Maga is taught there.

...sexually harassed Egyptian ninjas cannot be a good trend.

SkyNews
Breaking News7:33am UK, Tuesday June 23, 2009

Signals have been picked up from the black boxes of the Air France plane which crashed into the Atlantic, according to reports.

French naval vessels detected a weak signal from the flight data recorders, Le Monde newspaper said.

A mini-submarine has been sent to try to find the boxes on the bottom of the ocean floor.

The black boxes could contain vital information which may explain what happened when the Airbus A330 crashed into the water, killing all 228 people on board.

Locator beacons, known as "pingers", on the flight recorders send out an electronic impulse every second for at least 30 days after a crash.

The signal can be heard up to 2km (1.2 miles) away.

French vessels involved in the search operation include a nuclear submarine with advanced sonar equipment and a research ship equipped with mini-submarines.

re: #48 redc1c4

In German:
Das chirper mit der yellow beaken;
In mine window bin gepeaken,
Ach!, das chirper bin upspoken,
shame on folkers nicht upwoken!
Soon my shooter bin gepoppen,
und das chirpen bin gestoppen.

re: #60 Gus 802

Great news.

re: #56 Pvt Bin Jammin

I loved the song.

re: #62 Pvt Bin Jammin

Great news.

Sure is. Hope they find it since it will help in developing the final reports and preventing any future catastrophes.

re: #60 Gus 802

'Today- we ar' zearchang ze briny deep for ze eluseeve Boite Noir, also known az ze Black Box'

re: #63 BatGuano

Same here. One of those little songs you could never forget.

re: #59 slokat

...sexually harassed Egyptian ninjas cannot be a good trend.

there's one magic carpet you wouldn't want to take you for a ride.....

re: #65 Fenway_Nation

'Today- we ar' zearchang ze briny deep for ze eluseeve Boite Noir, also known az ze Black Box'

La Boite Noire in D minor.

//

re: #66 Pvt Bin Jammin

It goes through my head constantly. Thanks to gmsc.

re: #64 Gus 802

Sure is. Hope they find it since it will help in developing the final reports and preventing any future catastrophes.

Thought I saw something the other day that indicated it could have been foul play rather than the terrible weather but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it.

re: #61 BatGuano

In German:
Das chirper mit der yellow beaken;
In mine window bin gepeaken,
Ach!, das chirper bin upspoken,
shame on folkers nicht upwoken!
Soon my shooter bin gepoppen,
und das chirpen bin gestoppen.

it's a whole lot easier to lure him in with a piece of bread.....

re: #69 BatGuano

It goes through my head constantly. Thanks to gmsc.

Yeah, I guess that one is my fault.

;)

re: #72 gmsc

Speak of the devil!

re: #69 BatGuano

It goes through my head constantly. Thanks to gmsc.

He just posts awful Edie Gorme songs for me, lol. Where is that guy tonight?

re: #72 gmsc

Hey there Vegas.

re: #70 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thought I saw something the other day that indicated it could have been foul play rather than the terrible weather but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it.

I might have come across that too. That would require finding more debris with residue that indicates the presence of an explosive. Obviously. Of course the victims would also have injuries that would reflect this.

Ok, kids finally asleep...Good night folks, have a great day tomorrow! (or today, whichever one makes more sense in your time zone)

Before we get to tonight's history, June 22nd is also the end of an era:

Kodachrome film production to end

By Murray Wardrop
Published: 7:00AM BST 23 Jun 2009

Kodak announced yesterday that Kodachrome film will no longer be produced.
Kodak said it will cease making its most famous colour film later this year due to overwhelming competition from digital cameras.

During a 74-year stint in production, Kodachrome was once the film of choice for a generation of photographers and families reliving their holidays with slide shows.

However, sales have fallen steadily to the point where Kodachrome accounted for less than 1 per cent of the company's total sales of still-picture films.
Mary Jane Hellyar, president of Kodak's film, photofinishing and entertainment group, said: "The majority of today's photographers have voiced their preference to capture images with newer technology – both film and digital."
Kodachrome gained such revered status that it was celebrated in the mid-1970s with a song of the same name by Paul Simon, with the catchphrase: "Mama don't take my Kodachrome away."

The film's durability and ability to capture rich, vibrant colours also made it a favourite among professional photographers, including Steve McCurry, known for his portrait of an Afghan girl with green eyes for the cover of the National Geographic Magazine in 1985.

Kodak said 70 per cent of its revenue now comes from its retail and commercial digital businesses.

re: #77 srb1976

Ok, kids finally asleep...Good night folks, have a great day tomorrow! (or today, whichever one makes more sense in your time zone)

Later SRB

re: #74 Pvt Bin Jammin

Edie Gorme? Nobody does that! Without Steve Lawernce.

re: #70 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thought I saw something the other day that indicated it could have been foul play rather than the terrible weather but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it.

maybe the fact that the injuries on the recovered bodies indicated an in-flight break up of the plane?

re: #76 Gus 802

I might have come across that too. That would require finding more debris with residue that indicates the presence of an explosive. Obviously. Of course the victims would also have injuries that would reflect this.

IIRC it was autopsy info.

re: #77 srb1976

Ok, kids finally asleep...Good night folks, have a great day tomorrow! (or today, whichever one makes more sense in your time zone)

G'nite srb!

Today in History, June 23rd:

Highlights of this day in history: A key moment in the Watergate scandal; Adolf Hitler visits Paris after France falls to Nazi Germany; The typewriter gets a patent; Polio vaccine pioneer Dr. Jonas Salk and TV producer Aaron Spelling die.

Other notable June 23rd events include:

1683 – William Penn signs friendship treaty with Lenni Lenape Indians in Pennsylvania.

1860 – The United States Congress establishes the Government Printing Office.

1888 – Frederick Douglass is the first African-American nominated for U.S. president.

1926 – The College Board administers the first SAT exam.

1947 – The United States Senate follows the United States House of Representatives in overriding U.S. President Harry Truman's veto of the Taft-Hartley Act.

1969 – Warren E. Burger is sworn in as chief justice of the United States Supreme Court by retiring chief Earl Warren.

re: #77 srb1976

Ok, kids finally asleep...Good night folks, have a great day tomorrow! (or today, whichever one makes more sense in your time zone)

Sweet dreams.

re: #76 Gus 802

I might have come across that too. That would require finding more debris with residue that indicates the presence of an explosive. Obviously. Of course the victims would also have injuries that would reflect this.

they referenced the fact that they were finding naked bodies, which they said indicates the plane coming apart in the air...

re: #82 Pvt Bin Jammin

IIRC it was autopsy info.

Really? That would do it.

re: #77 srb1976

Weet dreams!

re: #69 BatGuano

It goes through my head constantly. Thanks to gmsc.

i blame my Drill Sgt.

Today in History, June 23rd:

Highlights of this day in history: A key moment in the Watergate scandal; Adolf Hitler visits Paris after France falls to Nazi Germany; The typewriter gets a patent; Polio vaccine pioneer Dr. Jonas Salk and TV producer Aaron Spelling die.

Other notable June 23rd events include:

1683 – William Penn signs friendship treaty with Lenni Lenape Indians in Pennsylvania.

1860 – The United States Congress establishes the Government Printing Office.

1888 – Frederick Douglass is the first African-American nominated for U.S. president.

1926 – The College Board administers the first SAT exam.

1947 – The United States Senate follows the United States House of Representatives in overriding U.S. President Harry Truman's veto of the Taft-Hartley Act.

1969 – Warren E. Burger is sworn in as chief justice of the United States Supreme Court by retiring chief Earl Warren.

Oops - sorry for the double posts!

re: #90 gmsc

Grrr....that's too much learnin' for one man....

re: #13 redc1c4

i love the sunsets that every so often replicate his paintings.... i call them "sherbert colors", but even that doesn't describe them.

dinner is always late on those evenings. %-)

I used to call it the Peach Sky. Clouds that were peach colored. SIGH.
Don't have them here. Fog at 3-4 PM daily. Keeps us cool.

re: #75 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hey there Vegas.

Howdy, PBJ!

re: #40 Gus 802

Oooh, we don't have cardinals. Lovely things. Especially in the winter, that flash of red against the white!

re: #1 Sharmuta

I like deep green.

Deep greens and blues,
are the colors I choose,
Won't you let me go down in my dreams?

re: #87 Gus 802

Really? That would do it.

I could be nuts but it seems like the indication was that this person died before they went in the water. It will be interesting to find out the truth.

re: #41 BatGuano

My wo-man from To-Kay-Yo!

re: #86 slokat

they referenced the fact that they were finding naked bodies, which they said indicates the plane coming apart in the air...

Heard about that. It's kind of disturbing to think about what they might have experienced. I know they say rapid decompression will put them out in seconds but still wonder sometimes.

re: #93 Floral Giraffe

I used to call it the Peach Sky. Clouds that were peach colored. SIGH.
Don't have them here. Fog at 3-4 PM daily. Keeps us cool.

South Bay: "There is no life east of Sepulveda."

re: #98 Floral Giraffe

My wo-man from To-Kay-Yo!

Any relation to the girl from Ipanema?

re: #77 srb1976

Good night, srb1976.

re: #101 gmsc

re: #94 gmsc

Howdy, PBJ!

Got any new Edie Gorme numbers for me? LOL

re: #96 Karridine

Deep greens and blues,
are the colors I choose,
Won't you let me go down in my dreams?

Misty green and blue, oh to love to love you......

re: #104 Pvt Bin Jammin

Got any new Edie Gorme numbers for me? LOL

that depends: how many did she roll?

re: #95 Floral Giraffe

Oooh, we don't have cardinals. Lovely things. Especially in the winter, that flash of red against the white!

there are cardinals in SoCal.... we had a breeding pair one summer, but not since. they are in the area though.

re: #106 redc1c4

that depends: how many did she roll?

Hopefully she crapped out.

re: #99 Gus 802

Heard about that. It's kind of disturbing to think about what they might have experienced. I know they say rapid decompression will put them out in seconds but still wonder sometimes.

there's no really *good* way to go, but that would be horrible, at least as long as you were conscious.....

re: #90 gmsc

1961- BatGuano discovers the effect of magnifying glass on ants.

re: #108 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hopefully she crapped out.

one toke over the line, eh?

/"numbers" can mean several things %-)

re: #104 Pvt Bin Jammin

Got any new Edie Gorme numbers for me? LOL

Nope, but if you want, I can hunt some down.
;)

How about some poetry tonight, instead?

re: #110 BatGuano

1961- BatGuano discovers the effect of magnifying glass on ants.

they had ants then?

re: #107 redc1c4

there are cardinals in SoCal.... we had a breeding pair one summer, but not since. they are in the area though.

Our friends in LaCanada get them around their place often. We are just on the other side of the arroyo and I have never seen one.

re: #110 BatGuano

1961- BatGuano discovers the effect of magnifying glass on ants.

I always thought it would be a great horror movie if the ants grew larger than people, and got their revenge by building a giant magnifying glass.

Floral Giraffe: how about "Puce Fraud" or "raspberry dream"?

re: #113 redc1c4

Primitive, but yes.

By the way, am I the only one who's pissed off when they're reading an article online about the turmoil in Iran, the DOW dropping 200 points in one day or the train wreck in D.C. (the literal one, not the ongoing figurative one) that over in the 'Most e-mailed' or 'Most Read' articles column, some Jon and Kate tabloid bullshit is at the top of the list?

BTW, is it forbidden to link to Renew America here in comments?

I just found a whole load of nirther crazy over there which is like a farrago of FAIL. They're calling Shep Smith an "Uber-leftist" and interviewing some nirther who has filed a lawsuit accusing Obama of treason.

There's also some severe illiteracy at play:

Sher: Barack Obama is taking over the country and turning it into his own totalitarian empire with almost lightning speed. Whom do you believe is the real power, if any, behind and supporting him?

Walt: I don't know what I don't know. I can speculate as well as you, but at the end of the day all we have are our opinions which may be different and which may be competing. But, this question gets to the heart of the reason why the federal criminal complaint for TREASON was advanced: We need to find out...and we can with the speed of heat!

This guy seems crazier even than Orly Taitz.

re: #115 gmsc

It would be like the movie "Them" but with a twist. I like it.

re: #110 BatGuano

1961- BatGuano discovers the effect of magnifying glass on ants.

I discovered that around 1958. OMG, dude, does that mean were going to turn into serial killers.

BTW did you use the little magnifying glass from the cracker jacks? I did. They had good prizes then.

re: #118 Fenway_Nation

By the way, am I the only one who's pissed off when they're reading an article online about the turmoil in Iran, the DOW dropping 200 points in one day or the train wreck in D.C. (the literal one, not the ongoing figurative one) that over in the 'Most e-mailed' or 'Most Read' articles column, some Jon and Kate tabloid bullshit is at the top of the list?

You are not alone! It's unbelievable.

re: #121 Pvt Bin Jammin

Yes, I did. :)

re: #100 redc1c4

LOL! I lived in Hollywierd & worked in the Valley for over 10 years. Never knew where anything north of Mullholland was. Except the awesome sushi restaurant!

re: #118 Fenway_Nation

By the way, am I the only one who's pissed off when they're reading an article online about the turmoil in Iran, the DOW dropping 200 points in one day or the train wreck in D.C. (the literal one, not the ongoing figurative one) that over in the 'Most e-mailed' or 'Most Read' articles column, some Jon and Kate tabloid bullshit is at the top of the list?

Those losers? I found out about that show last week. Never heard of it since I don't watch TV. To top things off they carry it on "The Learning Channel." It's disgusting.

re: #112 gmsc

Nope, but if you want, I can hunt some down.
;)

How about some poetry tonight, instead?

good idea......

Goodnight everyone. I must be going. No fruitcup for me.

re: #118 Fenway_Nation

By the way, am I the only one who's pissed off when they're reading an article online about the turmoil in Iran, the DOW dropping 200 points in one day or the train wreck in D.C. (the literal one, not the ongoing figurative one) that over in the 'Most e-mailed' or 'Most Read' articles column, some Jon and Kate tabloid bullshit is at the top of the list?

yes......

i've accepted that people are st00pid. %-)

re: #123 BatGuano

Yes, I did. :)

LOL My mom used to gift wrap lots of cracker jack boxes during the holidays so she had some little thing to give to every neighborhood kid. I had a few of those little magnifying glasses. Have you seen the prizes lately? Fake tattoo rub-ons, if you're lucky.

re: #127 BatGuano

Goodnight everyone. I must be going. No fruitcup for me.

G'Nite, BatGuano!

re: #127 BatGuano

Sweet dreams.

re: #122 iceweasel

We could be on the cusp of a seismic shift- possibly for the better- in the Middle East, and the only people that I don't have to explain this to are the children of those who fled from Iran.

The amateur footage and pictures that some of these people literally risked their lives to take of the events in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran are being ignored for some insipid third tier reality show/National Enquirer unmitigated Gradr A+++ bullshit.

Jon and Kate Gosselin
Perez Hilton
Chris Brown
Sacha Baron Cohen

//Duh-ee.

re: #118 Fenway_Nation

By the way, am I the only one who's pissed off when they're reading an article online about the turmoil in Iran, the DOW dropping 200 points in one day or the train wreck in D.C. (the literal one, not the ongoing figurative one) that over in the 'Most e-mailed' or 'Most Read' articles column, some Jon and Kate tabloid bullshit is at the top of the list?

I've already seen bumper sticked that said, "WWJAKD". Below it is the translation: "When Will Jon and Kate divorce?"

re: #124 Floral Giraffe

LOL! I lived in Hollywierd & worked in the Valley for over 10 years. Never knew where anything north of Mullholland was. Except the awesome sushi restaurant!

you eat bait?

re: #132 Fenway_Nation

We could be on the cusp of a seismic shift- possibly for the better- in the Middle East, and the only people that I don't have to explain this to are the children of those who fled from Iran.

The amateur footage and pictures that some of these people literally risked their lives to take of the events in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran are being ignored for some insipid third tier reality show/National Enquirer unmitigated Gradr A+++ bullshit.

I think it's practically certain that more Americans can name the finalists on American Idol, or Jon and Kate's kids, than know Mousavi's name. Or even what's happening over there.

re: #132 Fenway_Nation

We could be on the cusp of a seismic shift- possibly for the better- in the Middle East, and the only people that I don't have to explain this to are the children of those who fled from Iran.

The amateur footage and pictures that some of these people literally risked their lives to take of the events in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran are being ignored for some insipid third tier reality show/National Enquirer unmitigated Gradr A+++ bullshit.

but tell us how you *really* feel......

/

re: #134 gmsc

filed today... read that online plus the pic of the joke that calls himself Perez sporting a non-black eye

re: #134 gmsc

I've already seen bumper sticked that said, "WWJAKD". Below it is the translation: "When Will Jon and Kate divorce?"

i don't even know who J&K are......

/lucky me. %-)

re: #118 Fenway_Nation

Two words.
Perez Hilton.
The blog is up on Drudge.
*barf*
He draws little picture additions, too.
If you don't know, PLEASE, keep it that way.
You'll be happier, I promise.

re: #138 slokat

re: #134 gmsc

filed today... read that online plus the pic of the joke that calls himself Perez sporting a non-black eye

OK....that last bit is more schadenfreude than news....

re: #118 Fenway_Nation

By the way, am I the only one who's pissed off when they're reading an article online about the turmoil in Iran, the DOW dropping 200 points in one day or the train wreck in D.C. (the literal one, not the ongoing figurative one) that over in the 'Most e-mailed' or 'Most Read' articles column, some Jon and Kate tabloid bullshit is at the top of the list?

People are shallow. Sad but true.

re: #136 iceweasel

I think it's practically certain that more Americans can name the finalists on American Idol, or Jon and Kate's kids, than know Mousavi's name. Or even what's happening over there.

You are so right. All I've been talking about is the Iranian thing and I talk about it wherever I go. I've had quite a few blank stares. Sad, truly sad.

re: #136 iceweasel

I think it's practically certain that more Americans can name the finalists on American Idol, or Jon and Kate's kids, than know Mousavi's name. Or even what's happening over there.

i doubt most of them could even find it on a map......

ignoring, of course, that most of them don't even kn ow what a map is to begin with.

re: #136 iceweasel

I think it's practically certain that more Americans can name the finalists on American Idol, or Jon and Kate's kids, than know Mousavi's name. Or even what's happening over there.

You know how it goes. I thought it was a trend in the 80s but it's still around. You'll bring up some news to these people and they're like, "what do you WORRY about those things." It's not about worrying at all. Most of the time they respond by saying "I didn't know that happened" followed by the "you shouldn't worry" line. They're like zombies.

re: #142 Sharmuta

I hate to sound so naiive, but I didn't think it was this widespread (even after Nov 4th, for some reason).

re: #135 redc1c4

Fried squid spicy salad. YUM!
In the BofA shopping center 3-6 blocks north of Gelsons on the West side.
On Laurel Canyon.
Spicy squid salad isn't on the menu.
Order it anyway.
I miss it. WAY tasty. Cheap too.
$6 lunch.....

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

Wiki wiki means quickly or fast in Hawaiian. Go from there.

re: #143 Pvt Bin Jammin

You are so right. All I've been talking about is the Iranian thing and I talk about it wherever I go. I've had quite a few blank stares. Sad, truly sad.

Exactly. The blank stare.

Thinking is teh hard. If it doesn't involve some sort of celebrity, it's not news.

re: #137 redc1c4

Are you surprised? More people voted in American Idol than they did for the Presidential election. Either way, we got a show man.

Oh...and for the record, someone in my family was implying that I was a bigot when I was thumbing through an Argentina guidebook this weekend.

The Magic Kingdom built a huge sprawling mosque in Buenos Aires and called El Centro Cultural Islamico Rey Fahd. It's a fairly new addition to the city that wasn't there when I visited and I remarked 'Nothing good can come from such a large structure named after a Saudi monarch'.....

Several months ago...

Bob: "So, looks like France is going to re-join NATO."

Frank: "What's NATO?"

Duh-ee

re: #153 Gus 802

Several months ago...

Bob: "So, looks like France is going to re-join NATO."

Frank: "What's NATO?"

Duh-ee

Are you sure it wasn't "What's France?"
;)

re: #154 gmsc

Are you sure it wasn't "What's France?"
;)

Don't think I wasn't thinking about that. ;-)

Sometimes I'm bothered by the vacuous, but then I think on the Tao. Smart and stupid define each other, like dark and light. We will always have the stupid.

re: #154 gmsc

Are you sure it wasn't "What's France?"
;)

"France, oh yeah I've had one of doze befoh." //

re: #119 iceweasel

BTW, is it forbidden to link to Renew America here in comments?

Go ahead...

We pretty much are well aware of the meltdown among the "right" (whatever that is these days.)

It's a catharsis I suppose, but there is risk, high probability, that it will lead to nowhere but the outskirts of the political landscape.

re: #145 Gus 802

You know how it goes. I thought it was a trend in the 80s but it's still around. You'll bring up some news to these people and they're like, "what do you WORRY about those things." It's not about worrying at all. Most of the time they respond by saying "I didn't know that happened" followed by the "you shouldn't worry" line. They're like zombies.

It's deeply strange. This kind of complacency and narcissism was understandable (if stupid) in the halcyon days of economic prosperity and pre-9/11. Americans have been so blessed and so fortunate and so prosperous that we had the luxury, in a way other people don't, of taking it for granted.

But now? It seems almost criminal, and certainly immoral, to remain more concerned with who won American Idol than world events.
Even if people aren't worried about the human rights issues, you'd think that self-interest would motivate them to take an interest-- because we're going to have to deal with Iran no matter what.

re: #152 Fenway_Nation

Oh...and for the record, someone in my family was implying that I was a bigot when I was thumbing through an Argentina guidebook this weekend.

The Magic Kingdom built a huge sprawling mosque in Buenos Aires and called El Centro Cultural Islamico Rey Fahd. It's a fairly new addition to the city that wasn't there when I visited and I remarked 'Nothing good can come from such a large structure named after a Saudi monarch'.....

A bigot? How?

re: #160 Gus 802

Apparently beacuse a slight against the Saudis (or their kings) is a slight against all arabs.

Or Muslims.

I couldn't tell which, since I kept getting shouted down.

re: #149 Gus 802

Exactly. The blank stare.

We have to be dumbing down our populace. My hubby is always on our cable tv and I kinda prefer lgf but all I have is this funky rabbit ear tv in here with the new box. Can't get much in but was just checking out the shows tonight.....pathetic. "I'm a celebrity....get me out of here." I finally found some channel called ION and got repeats of NCIS.

re: #161 Fenway_Nation

Apparently beacuse a slight against the Saudis (or their kings) is a slight against all arabs.

Or Muslims.

I couldn't tell which, since I kept getting shouted down.

I see. You from Argentina?

re: #158 freetoken
Oh, you might like this, in terms of it being a synthesis of the crazy:

[Link: www.renewamerica.com...]

There's more dirt on this guy who filed the suit, too:

One of the "rising stars" in the fantasy tiddlywinks league is Walter Fitzpatrick. A Naval Acadamy graduate who became popular with the birthers and the pretend grand "jury" sect for a nasty letter sent to Obama claiming treason, Mr. Fitizpatrick is now a hero and "patriot" among the birther tribes.

I wonder how many of them know who he really is though? Some seem to think he's still a serving officer, others believe he's retired, but subject to recall.

It would be a cold day in hell before he was recalled though. Why? Well, what he doesn't talk about is why he's not in the Navy - or why his blog is called "JAG hunters". Seems Mr. Fitzpatrick doesn't have a very squeaky clean record. From all indications, Mr. Fitzpatrick's naval career was a good one, with rumours of the fast track to Admiral's stars. Executive Officer of a ship is usually seen as the last step before being placed in Command of a ship.

And all that was sunk by Mr. Fitzpatrick's own hands. You see, he was relieved of his position and court-martialed.

[Link: www.yestodemocracy.com...]

re: #163 Gus 802

Nope- altho I've visited there before.

/before the King Fahd Islamic Cultural Center was built and the Argentine peso was taken off the 1:1 exchange rate with the greenback.

re: #162 Pvt Bin Jammin

We have to be dumbing down our populace. My hubby is always on our cable tv and I kinda prefer lgf but all I have is this funky rabbit ear tv in here with the new box. Can't get much in but was just checking out the shows tonight.....pathetic. "I'm a celebrity....get me out of here." I finally found some channel called ION and got repeats of NCIS.

NCIS? Now that's entertainment. One of the only shows I watch online. I gave up on TV. Got tired of the celebrity worship and the dumbing down of everything. Even PBS was dumbed down in many respects including the addition of reality type programming. Too many things going on in many of the programming with images flashing left and right. Then there's the "booming bass" that seems to accompany every single thing on TV.

re: #159 iceweasel

It's deeply strange. This kind of complacency and narcissism was understandable (if stupid) in the halcyon days of economic prosperity and pre-9/11. Americans have been so blessed and so fortunate and so prosperous that we had the luxury, in a way other people don't, of taking it for granted.

But now? It seems almost criminal, and certainly immoral, to remain more concerned with who won American Idol than world events.
Even if people aren't worried about the human rights issues, you'd think that self-interest would motivate them to take an interest-- because we're going to have to deal with Iran no matter what.

They may not think that Iran is something that we will have to deal with at all.

I think that many of those that are unconcerned about what is happening in Iran believe that it is happening far far away and that it is none of our business.

It is still 9/10 for much of America and the world.

re: #165 Fenway_Nation

Nope- altho I've visited there before.

/before the King Fahd Islamic Cultural Center was built and the Argentine peso was taken off the 1:1 exchange rate with the greenback.

They did that? Sounds like another "deal with the devil." They seem to do that a lot. Like the World Bank loans they accepted even though they knew they couldn't keep up with the payment schedule.

Although it was after the bombings of the Israeli embassy and Jewish cultural centers in Buenos Aires.

re: #162 Pvt Bin Jammin

We have to be dumbing down our populace. My hubby is always on our cable tv and I kinda prefer lgf but all I have is this funky rabbit ear tv in here with the new box. Can't get much in but was just checking out the shows tonight.....pathetic. "I'm a celebrity....get me out of here." I finally found some channel called ION and got repeats of NCIS.

I don't doubt it. I was recently looking at a list of great movie quotes from the 1990s.

Now, when I think great movies quotes, I think of things like, "Frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a damn," or "Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine."

Compare these to the so-called "great" movie quotes of 1990:

"Gee, let me think... um... sure."

"I mean, seriously, how often do you really look at a mans shoes?"

"You're so money and you don't even know it."

"Schwing!"

re: #167 Syrah

They may not think that Iran is something that we will have to deal with at all.

I think that many of those that are unconcerned about what is happening in Iran believe that it is happening far far away and that it is none of our business.

It is still 9/10 for much of America and the world.

Seems like some kind of hangover from the 80's, a generic "Don't Worry, Be Happy" attitude. (That was the 80's, right?)

re: #170 gmsc

"Schwing!"

That was an excellent quote, I might add.

re: #166 Gus 802

NCIS? Now that's entertainment. One of the only shows I watch online. I gave up on TV. Got tired of the celebrity worship and the dumbing down of everything. Even PBS was dumbed down in many respects including the addition of reality type programming. Too many things going on in many of the programming with images flashing left and right. Then there's the "booming bass" that seems to accompany every single thing on TV.

I kinda like that NCIS too and they showed two re-runs which is why I wasnt posting much earlier. Hate the reality shows except, perhaps, the one where the disfunctional families have to swap wives. LOL The majority of those other shows just blow my mind. I can't see how people can watch them.

re: #168 Gus 802

Former president Carlos Menem (the part Syrian guy who may have had pretty close ties with 'the old country') presided over the ceremony.

He wasn't 'former' when I was visiting.

re: #172 laZardo

LOLOL!

re: #171 iceweasel

Nah, the 80s was more "Never underestimate the other guy's greed" and "Don't get high on your own supply."

/back when dePalma was good.

re: #171 iceweasel

Seems like some kind of hangover from the 80's, a generic "Don't Worry, Be Happy" attitude. (That was the 80's, right?)

Nah- it's that they're shallow. They don't follow world news, national news, local news. They don't care. If it doesn't directly impact them, then it doesn't matter. That's why they know more about celebrities than real news makers. Because their entertainment directly affects them. It's an out of sight, out of mind mentality. Like a 6 month old baby playing peek-a-boo.

re: #166 Gus 802

NCIS? Now that's entertainment. One of the only shows I watch online. I gave up on TV. Got tired of the celebrity worship and the dumbing down of everything. Even PBS was dumbed down in many respects including the addition of reality type programming. Too many things going on in many of the programming with images flashing left and right. Then there's the "booming bass" that seems to accompany every single thing on TV.

About the only "reality" show I actually have interest in is The Amazing Race, if only because it actually attempts to take place in "reality" and not just the confines of a certain space.

re: #170 gmsc

I don't doubt it. I was recently looking at a list of great movie quotes from the 1990s.

Now, when I think great movies quotes, I think of things like, "Frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a damn," or "Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine."

Compare these to the so-called "great" movie quotes of 1990:

"Gee, let me think... um... sure."

"I mean, seriously, how often do you really look at a mans shoes?"

"You're so money and you don't even know it."

"Schwing!"

You are so right. We hardly ever go to the movies anymore. Pathetic.

re: #174 Fenway_Nation

Former president Carlos Menem (the part Syrian guy who may have had pretty close ties with 'the old country') presided over the ceremony.

He wasn't 'former' when I was visiting.

I thought they brought him up on charges last year. Menem is a crook. That Kirchner dynasty is another losing political decision on their part. They're also starting to embrace communism in certain sectors of society. The place is still kind of a mess although my family members there are doing OK.

re: #164 iceweasel

Doesn't surprise me. The Fitzpatricks of this world need attention and they will get it one way or another. Why not a crusade of sorts?

They are playing in a fantasy land, and always will. The question is... how much will people like that poison the real (and serious) issues in politics today?

E.g., here in California the problem facing us first and foremost is that we simply don't have the tax revenues to pay the promises that were made.

Furthermore, the economic engine that has been making the apparent California wealth grow has been a very tenuous one: building houses as fast a possible to sell to people who cannot afford them. Trying to sell houses to people when the prices are 5x to 6x their household income is just silly. Stupid, really, but that is what the leading industry in California was all about the past decade.

And now, truth has caught up with the show.

And all those fantasists how dress up in 18th century costume and wax so ineloquently but religiously about "the constitution" have nothing to offer. Nothing.

PIMF "how" = who

re: #180 Gus 802

Menem is a crook.

To be fair, that's a pretty common trait among politicians in South America.

/Maybe AlGore can have a shot at the presidency if nobody else wants the job.

//on second thought, I wouldn't wish that on the Argies...

re: #181 freetoken

Here in my part of Calif. it's condos, hundreds of condos and they are not selling. I can't even believe it but we saw lumber. etc., piled up just last night for yet another complex. It is unreal.

re: #177 Sharmuta

Nah- it's that they're shallow. They don't follow world news, national news, local news. They don't care. If it doesn't directly impact them, then it doesn't matter. That's why they know more about celebrities than real news makers. Because their entertainment directly affects them. It's an out of sight, out of mind mentality. Like a 6 month old baby playing peek-a-boo.

I like the metaphor. The difference being that the baby eventually gets the idea from peek-a-boo that even if you can't see mom, she still exists.

re: #183 Fenway_Nation

It wouldn't be worth crying for.

/still in 90s movie quote mode

I love the late nights, just HATE the mornings afte!
So, I bid you adiue, and promise to read tomorrow.
Sleepy time, here.
G'Night!

re: #183 Fenway_Nation

To be fair, that's a pretty common trait among politicians in South America.

/Maybe AlGore can have a shot at the presidency if nobody else wants the job.

//on second thought, I wouldn't wish that on the Argies...

Robert Duval can run for office although I don't think he's interested. I don't know. They have a lot of potential for agriculture and mineral development.

re: #187 Floral Giraffe

Heh, typos, be gone!

It's past my bed time lizards so I'd better hit the hay.

Prayers for the people of Iran.

Good night, Floral & PBJ

re: #188 Gus 802

Robert Duval can run for office although I don't think he's interested. I don't know. They have a lot of potential for agriculture and mineral development.

Wasn't it the big mineral/mining companies that suffered the brunt of the Che-ist revolution back in the day? Not something they'd want back.

re: #184 Pvt Bin Jammin

Here in my part of Calif. it's condos, hundreds of condos and they are not selling. I can't even believe it but we saw lumber. etc., piled up just last night for yet another complex. It is unreal.

It's interesting the number of casinos under construction here on the strip that have had to stop.

If you're building a casino on the strip now, that means you began planning and design back in 2003-2004. Of course, we didn't know back then that we'd have the American Idol president in 2009.

G'Nite, FG and PBJ!

re: #167 Syrah

IceWeasel, in an earlier comment you indicated people who think Obama is transforming America into (something NOT the America we knew & loved) are mistaken, at least...

But how many 'czars' has Obama appointed by Presidential Order? It took the Russians 400 years to appoint 22 czars, but Obama's nearly there with 21... these are people WHO ANSWER to Obama, NOT to due process or Congress or any other check-and-balance of We, the People...

Are concerned Americans to be ridiculed for thinking that maybe, just maybe, Obama is doing something which is qualitatively outside Constitutional law, even if it is allowed when done by ones and twos?

Oh....and for the record, Hezbollah has been pretty active in South America.

Not just fundraising, either.

re: #194 Karridine

Speaking of which...the problem with being bipartisan these days is that you'll eventually have to appease the conservo-moralists sooner or later. See the "smoking law," Section 907, Special Rules. No flavored cigarettes?

Morning/Evening Lizards.

Thank you for allowing me to use colors as rich and deep as you please.

— Maxfield Parrish

If my kids spell colour, flavour etc this way will it be acceptable in school?

re: #192 laZardo

Wasn't it the big mineral/mining companies that suffered the brunt of the Che-ist revolution back in the day? Not something they'd want back.

Maybe. I know that Che never really had a direct impact on Argentina other than an ideological following in certain pockets. They were big anti-communists there for a long time.

re: #171 iceweasel

Seems like some kind of hangover from the 80's, a generic "Don't Worry, Be Happy" attitude. (That was the 80's, right?)

Ironically, the '80s started off with Iranian revolution. There were lots of things happening in the '80s.

There was a bunch of hoo'ha about El Salvador, Nicaragua and South Africa. Lebanon and Hizb'Allah were in the news. Ollie North became a rock-star of sort during the Iran-Contra hearings. (Iran again.) HIV was politicized. Global Warming was beginning to attract a following after the global cooling fad petered out in the late '70's. Reagan's Star-wars project drove the soviets into bankruptcy. The Berlin wall fell. The Challenger reminded us that spaceflight was still dangerous. . . .

As I think about it, it was interesting times.

If Obama continues hell bent on his policies of self-destruction, pictures we see of Iranian street riots will soon be here in America.

re: #198 Gus 802

The Presidents/dictators were, IIRC. Interestingly, they still have quite a few supporters long after their passing.

Must be a Spanish-colony thing, Ferdinand Marcos' old province is still quite a bastion for the crone...and even in Spain you'll find many Franquists lurking about.

re: #195 Fenway_Nation

Oh....and for the record, Hezbollah has been pretty active in South America.

Not just fundraising, either.

I was looking into that several years ago. They had an internet presence too. Even MSNBC covered it:

re: #199 Syrah

Ironically, the '80s started off with Iranian revolution. There were lots of things happening in the '80s.

There was a bunch of hoo'ha about El Salvador, Nicaragua and South Africa. Lebanon and Hizb'Allah were in the news. Ollie North became a rock-star of sort during the Iran-Contra hearings. (Iran again.) HIV was politicized. Global Warming was beginning to attract a following after the global cooling fad petered out in the late '70's. Reagan's Star-wars project drove the soviets into bankruptcy. The Berlin wall fell. The Challenger reminded us that spaceflight was still dangerous. . . .

As I think about it, it was interesting times.

I got born in that decade. :B Robocop ruled the box office that day, too.

I thought Star-Wars never got off the ground though. Wasn't it a surge in credit use that gave America that economic advantage?

re: #197 Erik The Red

Morning/Evening Lizards.

Thank you for allowing me to use colors as rich and deep as you please.

— Maxfield Parrish

If my kids spell colour, flavour etc this way will it be acceptable in school?

The British spell them that way.

If you encounter any trouble, just mention that other cultures spell it that way. Inferring to a teacher, principal or school board that they think the US's way is the one best way will get them to back off quickly.
;)

Here's a great quote from George Orwell, applicable to wanna-be Messiahs such as Obama:
"All saints should be judged guilty until proven innocent."

re: #201 laZardo

The Presidents/dictators were, IIRC. Interestingly, they still have quite a few supporters long after their passing.

Must be a Spanish-colony thing, Ferdinand Marcos' old province is still quite a bastion for the crone...and even in Spain you'll find many Franquists lurking about.

They certainly did to the tune of over 30,000 going missing. "The dirty war." They went too far of course. The odd part of course is that it correlates with anti-semitism which then finds the convergence of them with the Mullahs -- not unlike what we see around the world.

Here's to the 80s!

re: #181 freetoken

They are playing in a fantasy land, and always will. The question is... how much will people like that poison the real (and serious) issues in politics today?

And all those fantasists how dress up in 18th century costume and wax so ineloquently but religiously about "the constitution" have nothing to offer. Nothing.

I think they're already poisoning politics. It's a distraction from the real and serious issues facing us, and as you say, they have nothing to offer. Nothing.

Meanwhile the media by covering their antics helps propagate the distraction, and some politicans pander to the crazy wing-- like the GOP reps introducing a bill that requires presidential candidates to make their birth certificates available. What possible purpose is that serving other than to pander to the nirther movement?

Bad times.

re: #203 laZardo

I got born in that decade. :B Robocop ruled the box office that day, too.

I thought Star-Wars never got off the ground though. Wasn't it a surge in credit use that gave America that economic advantage?

One thing that helped in a major way was a seemingly insignificant section of ERTA (Economic Recovery Tax Act) that was passed by Reagan.

Computers had gotten to the point where they fit on a desktop, and held a whopping 4K, 8K, 16K or 64K or memory, which was enough to be useful to businesses. Despite this, businesses hadn't really adopted them on a large scale, and nothing had made them see the benefits.

One of the the passages in ERTA, however, was a tax break for businesses adopting new technologies. So, businesses started taking a look at desktop computers, and adopting them. It was really the computer boom, along with some fortunate economic thinking, that gave us the economic edge we had in the '80s.

This was also a reason that Reagan received the electoral votes of every state but Minnesota (Seriously, Minnesota...Walter Mondale?!?).

re: #209 gmsc

Mondale was the native son.

Obama administration authorizes U.S. embassies around the world to invite Iranian officials to Independence Day parties.

Oh well! Maybe that will soften the regime and make them nicer?!
/

is anyone else freaked out over the sweeping tobacco changes today? i don't smoke. i can't stand smoke. but isn't what Obama did today going a bit too far?

re: #209 gmsc

What do you expect, they'd go on to elect Jesse Ventura and Al Franken. q;

re: #207 Sharmuta

Here's to the 80s!

[Video]

I think the first time I heard that was on WPRB a Princeton radio station.

re: #194 Karridine

IceWeasel, in an earlier comment you indicated people who think Obama is transforming America into (something NOT the America we knew & loved) are mistaken, at least...

But how many 'czars' has Obama appointed by Presidential Order? It took the Russians 400 years to appoint 22 czars, but Obama's nearly there with 21... these are people WHO ANSWER to Obama, NOT to due process or Congress or any other check-and-balance of We, the People...

Are concerned Americans to be ridiculed for thinking that maybe, just maybe, Obama is doing something which is qualitatively outside Constitutional law, even if it is allowed when done by ones and twos?

I'm not, personally, worried about the appointment of czars yet, although I'll reserve the right to change my opinion in the future. Right now there's too much confusion about how exactly they're supposed to work.

There's an article here you might like in the LA Times, outlining some of the reasons people on both sides of the political fence are wary of it:

[Link: articles.latimes.com...]

I don't have a problem with their appointment in principle; Nixon arguably appointed the first one.

re: #203 laZardo

I got born in that decade. :B Robocop ruled the box office that day, too.

I thought Star-Wars never got off the ground though. Wasn't it a surge in credit use that gave America that economic advantage?

Star-wars works. It is tricky stuff, but it worked well enough even in just the concept phase that the soviets were unable to cope. I know there is a lot of crap in the media about how it doesn't work. It does work. It is just not perfect. Nothing of this type ever is or ever could be. The trick is to raise the cost of your enemy's first strike capability to the point where first strike is unthinkable, which we did.

As for credit, . . . easy credit is a tool of Satan. Especially when easy credit is mandated by a couple of dweebs in D.C. who saw it as a means to give constituents loans they could not really afford. Credit Cards are right evil too.

All of that easy and political motivated credit is why Old Scratch has us by the financial short hairs today. No one to blame but ourselves.

re: #216 Syrah

I thought it never got off the ground because we still don't have any space "lasers."

/90s movie quote mode still on.

re: #213 laZardo

What do you expect, they'd go on to elect Jesse Ventura and Al Franken. q;

You know, I've listened to Jesse Ventura after he left office and sat here wondering: that bat shit lunatic was the governor of Minnesota?

re: #208 iceweasel

I think they're already poisoning politics.

Maybe.

The other day I was writing about the pension problems all up and down the state. "Reine" remarked that it would be unfair to those already on the retirement programs to change the retirement systems.

However, we will have to do it. The local, county, and State retirement programs just are too expensive.

This is where the so called rubber meets the road.

Dressing up in costume and wagging on about "no taxation without representation" is silly, especially since all of them do have representatives - they just don't like them for some reason or another.

Meanwhile, here in California people will continue to lose jobs as the local, county, and State lay off employees, cut back on contracting, etc.

Fantasy is a fools game in this political climate.

Whether they like it or not, the Democrat majority in this state will have to accept some reduction in programs. Likewise, whether they like it or not, the GOP in this state will have to accept some tax increases. The only one who seems to want to actually govern, as in, work out a compromise that will keep the lights on, is the Governor and he is on the outs with the true "conservatives" as well as most of the Democratic majority in the legislature.

re: #207 Sharmuta

And speaking of the 80s and state governors...

re: #217 laZardo

I thought it never got off the ground because we still don't have any space "lasers."

/90s movie quote mode still on.

I think the Chinese have been very successful with their ground based space lasers. They seem to have the ability to blind birds in orbit. I don't know if they can toast a bird yet. I have a suspicion.

re: #219 freetoken

Whether they like it or not, the Democrat majority in this state will have to accept some reduction in programs. Likewise, whether they like it or not, the GOP in this state will have to accept some tax increases. The only one who seems to want to actually govern, as in, work out a compromise that will keep the lights on, is the Governor and he is on the outs with the true "conservatives" as well as most of the Democratic majority in the legislature.

Agreed 100%. Quoting this bit because it needs to be read again and again.

Hogan vs. Ventura

re: #212 captwfcall

is anyone else freaked out over the sweeping tobacco changes today? i don't smoke. i can't stand smoke. but isn't what Obama did today going a bit too far?

What specifically has he done that you object to?

(Not a trick question; honestly curious & haven't been following the story)

re: #221 Syrah

Not that it'll work perfectly, but I'm snickering at the thought of how reliable it'll be.

re: #220 laZardo

And speaking of the 80s and state governors...

I'll stick with movies I can respect. I still get chills every time I watch this scene:

Flock of Seagulls

I Ran

re: #223 Sharmuta

Heh- someone in the crowd gives jesse the finger @ 3:28.

re: #227 Gus 802

Flock of Seagulls

[Video]

I Ran

That sums up why so many people have never heard of the election turmoil: "Iran so far away"

re: #227 Gus 802

Iran's so far away...

Just stick with something local.

/ah, great video gaming memories

re: #229 gmsc

gmta 0:

re: #219 freetoken

Fantasy is a fools game in this political climate.

Whether they like it or not, the Democrat majority in this state will have to accept some reduction in programs. Likewise, whether they like it or not, the GOP in this state will have to accept some tax increases. The only one who seems to want to actually govern, as in, work out a compromise that will keep the lights on, is the Governor and he is on the outs with the true "conservatives" as well as most of the Democratic majority in the legislature.

I think that you will find that many people and businesses will start to just leave the state.

There are other places to live and work.

Intel does not have have any offices or facilities in California if they become a net drag on the whole company. The rest of the tech industry can bail as well. Some will leave. Some will stay. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out over the next 8 years.

re: #229 gmsc

That sums up why so many people have never heard of the election turmoil: "Iran so far away"

True, people run away out of fear.

re: #229 gmsc

That sums up why so many people have never heard of the election turmoil: "Iran so far away"

A beam of light comes shining down on you, shining down on you~

re: #230 laZardo

Iran's so far away...

Just stick with something local.

[Video]

/ah, great video gaming memories

Ah, turquoise jacket, yellow shirt, white pants and wheat colored espadrilles.

//

re: #232 Syrah

Some states promote themselves to businesses by stressing pro-business tax rates. Many companies have taken these states up on their offer.

In other areas, it's local taxes, and businesses are leaving cities for cheaper rates in the suburbs, which just compounds the problem in loss of revenue and increasing taxes.

It seems it doesn't occur to the powers that be that a reduction in taxes would bring people/businesses back.

re: #234 laZardo

A beam of light comes shining down on you, shining down on you~

1979, a year that will live in infamy.

lol- it's been so long since I watched any professional wrestling. So fake... lolol

One thing is certain. The music from the '80s is far better than the TV shows.

re: #237 Gus 802

1979, a year that will live in infamy.

Jimmy Carter: "Eh, maybe people are tired of the Shah. How bad can the Ayatollah be?"

Carter's legacy will always be the 444 days of hell he put America through.

How 80s is professional wrestling?

re: #238 Sharmuta

lol- it's been so long since I watched any professional wrestling. So fake... lolol

I've still never watched any professional wrestling.

I have no idea how I've managed to elude that particular bit of pop culture.

re: #223 Sharmuta

Ah yes... back in the day when men were men, women were women, and wrestlers were really fake (as opposed to today, where they are faking realistism.)

The person both of them were imitating is Superstar Billy Graham, who had quite the body. Turns out though he had juiced so much that his internal organs were going through problems, and in his later years he has been a campaigner for controlling steroids.

re: #236 Sharmuta

Some states promote themselves to businesses by stressing pro-business tax rates. Many companies have taken these states up on their offer.

In other areas, it's local taxes, and businesses are leaving cities for cheaper rates in the suburbs, which just compounds the problem in loss of revenue and increasing taxes.

It seems it doesn't occur to the powers that be that a reduction in taxes would bring people/businesses back.

Its counter intuitive. Reduce taxes to increase tax revenue. It is just too hard for some people to wrap their brains around.

Besides, if the purpose of a tax is to shape behavior, reducing it to increase private sector productivity is not only contrary to the purpose of the tax, but it is tantamount to a heresy to even consider.

For too many people, Politics is a substitute for religion.

PIMF "realism"

From the wikipedia entry on current Argentina president cristina Fernandez de Krichner:

Fernandez de Kirchner and her husband have always had a tempestuous relationship with the national media. Like many countries in South America, the major newspapers, radio and television stations are owned by a small number of financial groups, and the information tends to be highly critical of the President and her husband. In response, the government is about to submit a new law to break up the media monopoly, saying that it will open the media to new ownership and points of view. In April 2008, Kirchner received a stern public rebuke from the Argentine Journalists Association (ADEPA) for having publicly accused the popular cartoonist Hermenegildo Sábat of behaving like a "quasi mafioso".[41] In addition, a government proposal to create a watchdog to monitor racism and discrimination was received with suspicion by ADEPA, who called it a "covert attempt to control the media".

¿ Como se dice 'fairness doctorine' ?

re: #243 freetoken

I once met Verne Gagne.

re: #240 gmsc

Jimmy Carter: "Eh, maybe people are tired of the Shah. How bad can the Ayatollah be?"

Carter's legacy will always be the 444 days of hell he put America through.

Did you watch the short speech by the Shah's son? Reza Shah Pahlavi, he gets all choked up. How bad can the Ayatollah be. Now we see. We went through hell at the time and tried to tell them: this is a mistake. Carter of course chose to remain silent for the most part -- which should strike a familiar chord.

re: #237 Gus 802

The year the music died.

In a sense.

/album came out in '79

re: #179 Pvt Bin Jammin

You are so right. We hardly ever go to the movies anymore. Pathetic.

"Yipee-o-kai-yay mutherfu*ker!"

not a bad line.........

re: #249 laZardo

The year the music died.

[Video]

In a sense.

/album came out in '79

Yes! Just had that cued up and finished listening to it. Listening again. ;)

I'm up. It's 4:37 and I'm wide awake. That's what happens when you're sick and sleep all day.