Yon in Combat with the Brits
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Another great must-read report with plenty of photos by Michael Yon, embedded with the British Army in Sangin, Afghanistan: Resurrection.
148 comments
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Gang of One Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:28:15am |
The MSM talking heads can't hold a candle to this guy.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:29:49am |
Real courage.
(unlike the bullshit chickenshit Dan Rather called "courage".)
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TheAntichrist Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:31:16am |
I read that yesterday, I've been a fan of Yon's for years now. Amazing how the MSM can't seem to find anything to report but body counts. Yon puts them all to shame.
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manny Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:32:54am |
You scared me with your grammar! I felt bad for the poor Brits. ;)
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:33:10am |
re: #3 Sharmuta
He a really good writer too. His description of the country and its inhabitants is really interesting.
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turn Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:33:28am |
I see the Taliban have work accidents too.
"Colonel Wadood said that “Muslims in their deed, character and ethics should make the best example, and this does not just apply to Muslims but all humanity.” He said, “people should have fair and good relations with people around the world"
I wish all muslims thought like Colonel Wadood ...
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:33:39am |
Too bad their Commander in Chief, like ours, is a cowardly socialist. Our troops and the Brits deserve better in a CinC.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:35:58am |
All the praise of Yon deserving, but lets not forget a HAT TIP to his photographer as well
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Gang of One Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:36:22am |
Can't open the link. I get a message:
Forbidden Access
flooding
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:36:45am |
I'm being oppressed. (I can't open the link.)
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Kragar Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:37:12am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:37:37am |
re: #10 LionOfDixon
I think Obama's surge in Afghanistan is a good thing. He's also getting more aggressive with Pakistan. The wind down of troops in Iraq seems to be going well. He's doing better than I expected.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:38:26am |
re: #12 Gang of One
Can't open the link. I get a message:
Forbidden Access
flooding
GLOBAL WARMING!
Okay, link opened now.
By the way, memo to Stinky: The control buttons (strikethrough, bold, post, etc.) are doing that odd thing again where they try to "jump" away from my cursor when I try to click on them.
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:39:05am |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
He a really good writer too. His description of the country and its inhabitants is really interesting.
Yes, he is both informative and evocative, without resorting to any showy wordsmithery.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:40:41am |
Three cheers for all the brave soldiers featured in this piece; and three more cheers for Mr. Yon and his reportage!
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Dahveed Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:40:49am |
Michael Yon is a national treasure as far as I'm concerned.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:40:53am |
re: #17 Jimmah
I also found the random explosions to be interesting. I guess with decades worth of explosives laying around it shouldn't be surprising.
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Gang of One Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:41:52am |
Page loaded. Excellent stuff so far from what I've seen and read.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:41:54am |
re: #15 Killgore Trout
I think Obama's surge in Afghanistan is a good thing. He's also getting more aggressive with Pakistan. The wind down of troops in Iraq seems to be going well. He's doing better than I expected.
Thats two 'good things" I've seen him do (that, and the okay of offing the pirates)
2 updings for 5+ months
Not bad!
//
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:42:03am |
re: #16 Occasional Reader
GLOBAL WARMING!
Okay, link opened now.
By the way, memo to Stinky: The control buttons (strikethrough, bold, post, etc.) are doing that odd thing again where they try to "jump" away from my cursor when I try to click on them.
Same here! I can get around the BOLD and ITALICIZED functions by doing CTRL+B or CTRL+I but, the STRIKE, QUOTATION and LINK buttons are not beyond reach.
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:42:43am |
re: #15 Killgore Trout
He's basically following Bush's policies, which he decried loudly during the campaign. So, I really can't give him kudos there. Still doesn't change the fact that while Americans are fighting overseas, Obama wants to dramatically change the U.S. into a country that more resembles a socialist nation...
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:42:48am |
re: #24 MandyManners
Same here! I can get around the BOLD and ITALICIZED functions by doing CTRL+B or CTRL+I but, the STRIKE, QUOTATION and LINK buttons are BEYOND reach.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:43:02am |
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:44:37am |
Sangin is an active battlefield. To describe missions with other than vague details would present danger to these soldiers and to the next rotation.
GOT THAT, MSM?
A reporter with a conscience, who recognizes that there are matters that supersede "the public's right to know"... how 'bout them apples?
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Kragar Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:44:45am |
re: #27 Occasional Reader
What the hell is this, the Renaissance Festival?
We'll be hip deep in minstrels and leather mugs before you know it.
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Gang of One Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:44:46am |
re: #24 MandyManners
Same here! I can get around the BOLD and ITALICIZED functions by doing CTRL+B or CTRL+I but, the STRIKE, QUOTATION and LINK buttons are not beyond reach.
re: #26 MandyManners
Same here! I can get around the BOLD and ITALICIZED functions by doing CTRL+B or CTRL+I but, the STRIKE, QUOTATION and LINK buttons are BEYOND reach.
Mandy, you talking to yourself again?
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:45:39am |
This OMLT consists mostly of short soldiers in 3 Company from the Welsh Guards. They are short because the tall soldiers are sent to the Prince of Wales Company, while the short ones, called “Little Iron Men,” are sent to 3 Company.
Now that's a little odd.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:45:44am |
re: #24 MandyManners
I've been typing in *blockquote* and */blockquote* for quotations and *a href="(your link here)"*Your Link*/a* for links for a while now.
Replace * with < and > where necessary.
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:47:23am |
re: #32 Occasional Reader
Don't fuck with the Welsh. My wife is from Wales and according to her
5'8" is average height for men over yonder.
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:47:29am |
re: #32 Occasional Reader
I remember hearing in the service that the Germans in WWII assigned soldiers to companies based on blood-type. That way they could do transfusions right on the field between soldiers.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:47:47am |
Whenever I see Brit soldiers in desert camo with Land Rovers, I keep thinking they're off to fight Rommel.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:48:04am |
re: #36 Occasional Reader
Whenever I see Brit soldiers in desert camo with Land Rovers, I keep thinking they're off to fight Rommel.
Rat Patrol!
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TheAntichrist Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:48:37am |
re: #11 sattv4u2
All the praise of Yon deserving, but lets not forget a HAT TIP to his photographer as well
Yon is the photographer! The man has talent.
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:49:09am |
re: #32 Occasional Reader
The tall guys look better on parade is the only reason I can think of why they'd segregate due to height. If the Princes' company is on 'show' as it were, they want the 'poster' boys. Heh.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:49:15am |
re: #34 pingjockey
Don't fuck with the Welsh. My wife is from Wales and according to her
5'8" is average height for men over yonder.
I have no intention of fucking with the Welsh (other than Katherine Zeta-Jones). I just found it a little weird they'd assign soldiers to companies by height. (Also, 5'8" is also the average height for men in the US, IIRC; or maybe 5'7"?)
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sattv4u2 Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:49:55am |
re: #38 TheAntichrist
Yon is the photographer! The man has talent.
I saw his name on the photos, but didn't know for sure if it was because everything was submitted with his byline or if he is in fact the photographer also
In that case ,,, DOUBLE Kudos
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:50:35am |
re: #37 Creeping Eruption
I thought that was the coolest show as a kid and now I'd love to have a WWII jeep with a .50 cal mounted in the back!
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:50:53am |
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:52:04am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:52:11am |
re: #42 pingjockey
I thought that was the coolest show as a kid and now I'd love to have a WWII jeep with a .50 cal mounted in the back!
Would make RUSH HOUR and searching for a parking spot a tad easier, no?
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:52:18am |
The Afghan soldiers could use some better camo, IMHO. "Forest" ain't gonna cut it in that landscape.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:52:18am |
Yon shows again what great things can come from independent, web based journalism.
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:52:19am |
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Oh no...Sand People! Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:52:25am |
re: #6 TheAntichrist
I read that yesterday, I've been a fan of Yon's for years now. Amazing how the MSM can't seem to find anything to report but body counts. Yon puts them all to shame.
Never thought I'd upding the AntiChrist...
/first time for everything I guess...
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:52:36am |
re: #40 Occasional Reader
Heh. Just inserted the 'fucking around thing' because. I posted about why I thought they may segregate due to height. up on #39. Catherine Zeta-Jones is Welsh...oh my!
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:53:43am |
re: #36 Occasional Reader
Cheers to the British Soldier who first had the inspiration to add dry gin to their requried dose of quinine to make it more palatable, thus creating the gin and tonic...
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:54:02am |
Waaay OT...if someone you know is going through chemo and they tell you food tastes like shit...they're right.
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:54:35am |
re: #52 LionOfDixon
No doubt. Bravo Zulu, well done, etc...
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Occasional Reader Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:54:37am |
re: #52 LionOfDixon
Cheers to the British Soldier who first had the inspiration to add dry gin to their requried dose of quinine to make it more palatable, thus creating the gin and tonic...
No kidding?
Hell, I don't even care if it's true, it's a good story!
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:56:28am |
Texan fundamentalist mind-rot being sold as A-level "education" in UK.
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
Apartheid, yes. Evolution, no. That’s one of the conclusions of a strange and disturbing Evangelical Christian school curriculum developed in Texas imported into Britain.
Around 50 Christian schools in the UK, as well as scores of home-schooled pupils, are taught from text books which claim, among other things:
* the Loch Ness monster, which “appears to be a plesiosaur” from photographs, helps to disprove evolution;
* apartheid was beneficial to South Africa; reasons include the claim that segregated schools “made it possible for each group to maintain and pass on their culture and heritage to their children”;
* “unquestionable proofs” and “unarguable evidences” existed for creationism.Pupils are also apparently taught that Noah’s Ark was real and that AIDS sufferers are ’sinners’.
Only half of their time is spent learning bona fide academic subjects. The other half of their time is spent studying scripture and ‘learing’
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:56:42am |
re: #55 Occasional Reader
Yes...that's true...apparently a brit. stationed in India...they had to take Quinine to fight malaria...so..a little sugar, a little soda water and a jigger or gin and Voila!
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:56:45am |
BTW - I am sitting in the car waiting for my wife listening to XM.
Went over to Fox Talk and John Gibson is taking on all Nirther callers.
He is making all of the points made here and starting to win some over, but also getting callers who are trying to "educate" him on what is really in the Constitution.
Entertaining, actually.
It is nice to see someone in the Right media taking on these self destructive clowns.
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cagney Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:56:46am |
re: #36 Occasional Reader
There's a bit of a controversy over here about that as the Land Rovers are inadequate protection against IED's. Our boys over there are being shafted with Government penny-pinchers not providing them with the right gear to do the job. Typical socialist scum in charge of this country, even when trying to compliment the heroic deeds of these fine men and woman it sounds like they are sneeringly talking down to them.
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Kragar Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:58:16am |
re: #58 Jimmah
Texan fundamentalist mind-rot being sold as A-level "education" in UK.
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
Future BNP supporters
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:58:48am |
re: #40 Occasional Reader
I have no intention of fucking with the Welsh (other than Katherine Zeta-Jones). I just found it a little weird they'd assign soldiers to companies by height. (Also, 5'8" is also the average height for men in the US, IIRC; or maybe 5'7"?)
5'8" I believe is U.S. average. My husband is completely average!
Well, in terms of height. Mentally speaking...
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 11:59:04am |
re: #54 pingjockey
Bravo Zulu! My victory mug from my last command has the BZ flags on the back...the Chief's mess had them made to commemorate de-commisioning. My daughter once told me that the civilian equivalent of Bravo Zulu is the happy face...
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:00:09pm |
re: #61 cagney
I have the utmost respect for the UK and Commonwealth forces and they way some of the pols over there talk and treat them they must be getting lessons in asshattery from the pols here in the US. Been quite hammered numerous times with my conterparts from the Royal Navy.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:00:12pm |
re: #58 Jimmah
Texan fundamentalist mind-rot being sold as A-level "education" in UK.
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
Nessie! (Actually, I discussed the Loch Ness Monster with the kids in my science class when we were doing Sonar, and we talked about the claims and the fact that the BBC had done a multi-boat sweep of the lake, and found nothing.
Except for...The Loch Ness Toad! [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:01:15pm |
They still haven't found the SOB who shot up the gay community center in Tel Aviv.
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:01:27pm |
re: #62 Sharmuta
Lovely.
This is anything but education - this is brain damage.
An extract from the TES link in the piece:
Are dinosaurs alive today? Scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence.Have you heard of the ‘Loch Ness Monster’ in Scotland? ‘Nessie,’ for short has been recorded on sonar from a small submarine, described by eyewitnesses, and photographed by others. Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur.
Could a fish have developed into a dinosaur? As astonishing as it may seem, many evolutionists theorize that fish evolved into amphibians and amphibians into reptiles. This gradual change from fish to reptiles has no scientific basis. No transitional fossils have been or ever will be discovered because God created each type of fish, amphibian, and reptile as separate, unique animals. Any similarities that exist among them are due to the fact that one Master Craftsmen fashioned them all.”
Extract from Biology 1099, Accelerated Christian Education Inc. (1995)
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:02:33pm |
re: #58 Jimmah
That's fucking crazy! Muchos grassy ass for the link. Damn pond scum they are.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:04:15pm |
re: #66 pingjockey
I have the utmost respect for the UK and Commonwealth forces and they way some of the pols over there talk and treat them they must be getting lessons in asshattery from the pols here in the US. Been quite hammered numerous times with my conterparts from the Royal Navy.
This is apropos of nothing, but there's a great passage in one of Brendan Behan's books where a Royal Navy seaman, after the end of WWII, is desperately trying to get home, and he learns that they'll discharge you from the U.S. Navy if you're gay.
He goes to his CO and explains that he's having lustful thoughts about the guy in the opposite bunk. The CO says he can't recall the young man in question, forcing the fellow to give a loving description of this jerk who leaves his dirty socks around. Then he tells him that yes, he recalls Smith, nice-looking lad, can't blame you for fancying him, and recommends cold showers and concentrating on work a bit more.
The seaman is NOT pleased.
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avanti Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:04:56pm |
O.T. Chrysler July sales improve with CFC, but still down from last year due to the weak market for Ram trucks.
"AUBURN HILLS, MI - August 3, 2009: Chrysler Group LLC total sales up 30 percent compared with previous month.
-- Five vehicles set new monthly sales records for July
-- Jeep Patriot sales increase 134 percent compared with previous year
-- Dodge Caliber sales up 63 percent versus July 2008
-- Chrysler PT Cruiser sales up 24 percent compared with previous year
-- Mopar posted a U.S. sales increase of 9 percent compared with June 2009
-- U.S. Government "CARS" program and Chrysler Group incentive program drives consumers to Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge dealers
The increased consumer traffic was driven by interest in the U.S. Government CARS program, more commonly known as "Cash for Clunkers" and Chrysler Group's easy-to-understand incentive program.
"The government's program is doing what it is designed to do-spur consumers to trade in older gas guzzlers for new, fuel-efficient vehicles," said Peter Fong, President and Chief Executive Officer-Chrysler Brand and Lead Executive for the Sales Organization, Chrysler Group LLC. "While we don't expect the industry sales forecast to change dramatically, we are seeing encouraging signs that consumer confidence is building, and more consumers are considering purchasing a new vehicle."
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:05:08pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:05:27pm |
re: #69 Jimmah
Creationism is actually growing in europe now, amazing as that seems.
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:06:17pm |
re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist
Heh. IIRC...Churchill(of course) said the only difference between being in the navy and in jail, was that in the navy you had the chance of being drowned.
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:07:30pm |
re: #67 EmmmieG
Nessie! (Actually, I discussed the Loch Ness Monster with the kids in my science class when we were doing Sonar, and we talked about the claims and the fact that the BBC had done a multi-boat sweep of the lake, and found nothing.
Except for...The Loch Ness Toad! [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
That's education, Emmie - in contrast to this lot who are saying it exists and has been identified as a plesiousaur thus disproving evolution!
That thing about the toad 98m down is bizzare btw - very interesting .
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albusteve Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:07:57pm |
schotz!
link won't open for me...first time ever
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:08:51pm |
re: #74 LionOfDixon
Smart kid. Coast Guard, my hat's off to you. My last cruise USS Chancellorsville CG 62 was counter narco ops and we had a CG detachment on board. That's how we got around posse commitatus. See somebody suspicous and viola' we run up the CG colors and now we're a 10k ton cutter. Heh.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:08:58pm |
re: #77 Jimmah
That's education, Emmie - in contrast to this lot who are saying it exists and has been identified as a plesiousaur thus disproving evolution!
That thing about the toad 98m down is bizzare btw - very interesting .
Well, yeah. I was trying to give them a practical application for Sonar to help their understanding and make it easier to remember, but the toad? Just cool.
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albusteve Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:09:53pm |
I don't have the available NODES?...wth are those and where are they?
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:10:11pm |
re: #75 Sharmuta
Creationism is actually growing in europe now, amazing as that seems.
I never thought I'd see that. Elements of the left and right have been pandering to religious interests for too long, and these kind of people are seeing openings and exploting them.
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:11:11pm |
re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist
That's a knee-slapper...good one! We had a guy who wanted to get shore duty and heard that if you sleep-walked, you would get transfered. He told the corpsman that he was a sleepwalker. The corpsman, probably having seen this before said that the new procedure was to handcuff the sailor to his rack while he slept...for his safety of course...and that the Master at Arms would lock him up and unlock him. That was pretty much the end of that ruse.
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KenJen Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:12:24pm |
re: #78 albusteve
schotz!
link won't open for me...first time ever
Try again. It took awhile to load. Definitely worth it.
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:13:12pm |
re: #79 pingjockey
The powers given to the CG by the USC are pretty awesome...did some patrols out of Miami...were you anywhere near there?
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:13:15pm |
re: #83 LionOfDixon
Mwahahaha! Didn't have anyone goofy as that. Did have a TM1 who was a functional alcoholic I didn't know about until we got to sea and he sobered up. Poor dude was better ata low level buzz!
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albusteve Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:13:35pm |
re: #84 KenJen
Try again. It took awhile to load. Definitely worth it.
I have...I'm disappointed...Yon is a superstar
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Kragar Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:13:52pm |
6.9 in Baja, supposedly felt as far away as Phoenix, didn't feel a thing in San Diego
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:14:22pm |
re: #80 EmmmieG
Well, yeah. I was trying to give them a practical application for Sonar to help their understanding and make it easier to remember, but the toad? Just cool.
I see the article was from 2007 - might be worthwhile to see what the follow up on that was.
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:14:50pm |
re: #85 LionOfDixon
Out of San Diego by way of Panama. The cruise book has a picture of the 4 metric tons of coke we picked up when the fast boats would dump their loads. They could out run us but not the helo!
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:15:15pm |
re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
6.9 in Baja, supposedly felt as far away as Phoenix, didn't feel a thing in San Diego
I had a firefox add-on a few years ago that would list all recorded earthquakes as they happened, and also shake the screen image while it was happening. I got rid of it after about an hour. My screen never stopped moving.
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:16:17pm |
re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Y'all didn't feel it? Just called some friends in Lakeside, but no one was home.
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albusteve Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:18:55pm |
re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
6.9 in Baja, supposedly felt as far away as Phoenix, didn't feel a thing in San Diego
nothing that that ever happens in NM...land of the Super Caldera and all that
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LionofDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:20:04pm |
re: #86 pingjockey
a torpedoed torpedoman! We had some pretty hazy hands on the Hurtin' Burton...Operation DeepFreeze was a hell of an op...South Pole and back...and then decom.
Were you in CG 62 when it won the Spokane Trophy?
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haakondahl Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:21:37pm |
re: #81 albusteve
I don't have the available NODES?...wth are those and where are they?
Just from that message, I think it's disk space, in a way. You are in an emergency. Delete a lot of crap you don't need, fast, then shut down (nicely) and re-start..
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haakondahl Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:22:16pm |
re: #93 albusteve
nothing that that ever happens in NM...land of the Super Caldera and all that
Yeah, you look at the landscape there and you can see that it pretty much got whatever it was out of its system.
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LionofDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:22:20pm |
re: #90 pingjockey
Boarding officers can be E4 and up...and they have a bewildering array of powers that police don't have...search, seizure, etc...originally to combat piracy...
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lawhawk Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:22:27pm |
re: #73 avanti
The Jeep Patriot was introduced in 2007. So was the Dodge Caliber. These were new model introductions, so the 2009 version would be the second year for both vehicles. To claim that it had such huge sales is misleading. After all, it went from 0 sales two years prior.
PT Cruiser sales are a nice jump, and indicates part of a reason why the company decided not to can the PT cruiser after the 2009 model year.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:23:34pm |
At ZooBorns--baby hyraxesYour text to link.... The do look like they're plotting, don't they?
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:23:46pm |
re: #94 LionofDixon
I was. Helluva trophy. The winners are a who's who of battleships and cruisers. Retired in '97. We pulled into Seattle in '95 and had to go to the bridge to translate cause no one could pronounce a bunch of the names on the way into Puget Sound. Disclaimer...I'm from Wa. state. The Spokane trophy is made of silver and gold mined from around spokane Wa at the turn of the last century.
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lawhawk Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:24:07pm |
re: #73 avanti
Also, the month to month sales figures show a massive dip due to the bankruptcy uncertainties, and the recovery from the dips show that some of the sales are coming back - however year over year shows that the sales are still down significantly.
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haakondahl Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:25:20pm |
re: #69 Jimmah
I studied from these! This is the crap I had when I went to a Baptist school for slightly less than one year. These are why it wasn't a full year. It took a while to work up from stern warnings and detention to suspension and expulsion. Mission Accomplished!
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avanti Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:25:57pm |
New nirther poll. (from Hot Air link)
In Virginia only 32 % of Republicans believe BHO was born in the USA...
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:25:59pm |
re: #97 LionofDixon
Yep. Really cool stuff. We had a LT and a CPO and about a dozen petty officer come on board. We spoiled them. Put their office in Sonar control and we have our own coffee grinder. The LT said we treated them better than any one else they'd been aboard!
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haakondahl Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:26:42pm |
re: #100 pingjockey
I was. Helluva trophy. The winners are a who's who of battleships and cruisers. Retired in '97. We pulled into Seattle in '95 and had to go to the bridge to translate cause no one could pronounce a bunch of the names on the way into Puget Sound. Disclaimer...I'm from Wa. state. The Spokane trophy is made of silver and gold mined from around spokane Wa at the turn of the last century.
'Sokay, half the crew can't spell CHANCELLORSVILLE.
Amazing how my fingers still have that on speed-dial, as it were.
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:26:44pm |
re: #103 avanti
I swear avanti, they are frakkin' morons.
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:27:08pm |
re: #102 haakondahl
I studied from these! This is the crap I had when I went to a Baptist school for slightly less than one year. These are why it wasn't a full year. It took a while to work up from stern warnings and detention to suspension and expulsion. Mission Accomplished!
Sounds like fun!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:27:21pm |
re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist
I have found my evil minions for my next plot to take over the world!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:27:23pm |
re: #98 lawhawk
Will you PLEASE refrain from using logic and reason when talking about the auto industry and/ or The 0ne's policies with Avanti
Here's all you need to acknowledge
A) even though the 200,000 cars sold under the CFC program are a small fraction of total new car sales in a year
1) they "jump started" the industry
2) dealers are out of stock because of it (not because of production cuts and 4-6 weeks of plant closures
Stick to the talking pionts, please
CHANGE!!! HOPE !!
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:27:59pm |
re: #105 haakondahl
I'm amazed that they named the ship for that battle! It was the battle right before Gettysburg and Bobby Lee won.
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:28:21pm |
re: #100 pingjockey
I know what you mean about pronunciation...we once had a new guy announce over the 1MC that we were in the Strait of Juan de Fuca...and pronounced it the way you think, not the way it is...Said same Seaman also threw a monkey fist off the bow as we were mooring up in Victoria, BC. (Esquimalt) and managed to hit the car of the Canadian base Commander, which was parked on the pier, breaking the windshield...ahhh good times.
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avanti Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:28:33pm |
re: #101 lawhawk
Also, the month to month sales figures show a massive dip due to the bankruptcy uncertainties, and the recovery from the dips show that some of the sales are coming back - however year over year shows that the sales are still down significantly.
Yes, Chrysler is still down 9% from last year, but a big improvement from over 40%. Ford is actually up, and that's better then most of the imports.
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albusteve Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:30:37pm |
re: #95 haakondahl
Just from that message, I think it's disk space, in a way. You are in an emergency. Delete a lot of crap you don't need, fast, then shut down (nicely) and re-start..
I ran my Registry Defense, Kasperski security scan and rebooted...I have tons of disk space...zip...won't load
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avanti Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:30:54pm |
re: #103 avanti
New nirther poll. (from Hot Air link)
In Virginia only 32 % of Republicans believe BHO was born in the USA...
To be honest, it's hard to believe. The KOS poll is suspect, but now this one ? I'll wait to see how the polling was done before I buy it 100%.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:30:58pm |
re: #69 Jimmah
That's freaking insane. What's even worse is the folks who believe that claptrap and then proceed the use the items modern science and technology has made for us using these theories and facts that these religious nuts deny.
As for dinosaurs existing today, yeah, they exist. We call them "birds". ;-)
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:31:45pm |
re: #108 EmmmieG
I have found my evil minions for my next plot to take over the world!
Don't commit till you've seen these...
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:31:54pm |
re: #105 haakondahl
Mutual respect...we had a great detachment with us on Reftra out of Pearl...amazing to watch the CG damage controlmen and the Navy Hull techs do patch and plug drills...made me feel a lot more secure if the ship got a leak...as did the CGC Glacier when it did an operation Deep Freeze...and got stuck int he polar ice.
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debutaunt Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:32:11pm |
re: #114 avanti
To be honest, it's hard to believe. The KOS poll is suspect, but now this one ? I'll wait to see how the polling was done before I buy it 100%.
Over 50% voted for Obama. Nothing makes sense anymore.
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KenJen Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:32:53pm |
re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist
At ZooBorns--baby hyraxesYour text to link.... The do look like they're plotting, don't they?
The one on the right looks a little like Henry Waxman.
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albusteve Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:33:38pm |
re: #118 debutaunt
Over 50% voted for Obama. Nothing makes sense anymore.
overlooked little factoid...to me that is as shocking as anything else
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:33:57pm |
re: #111 LionOfDixon
We used to aim for any vehicle dumb enough to be parked where it could be smacked with a heaving line!
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JustABill Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:34:29pm |
re: #113 albusteve
I ran my Registry Defense, Kasperski security scan and rebooted...I have tons of disk space...zip...won't load
I think your out of filenames. There is a limit to how many files you can have on some systems. With out respect to how much disk space you have. Try deleting a number of small files and see what happens.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:35:31pm |
re: #119 KenJen
The one on the right looks a little like Henry Waxman.
Furrier, and cuter, I think. Also, mentioned in the Bible!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:36:19pm |
re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist
Furrier, and cuter, I think. Also, mentioned in the Bible!
Henry Waxman is mentioned in the bible? He isn't in Revelations, is he?
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:36:32pm |
re: #124 LionOfDixon
Hah! I have never ever seen a zoomie on a pier!
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albusteve Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:37:38pm |
re: #122 JustABill
I think your out of filenames. There is a limit to how many files you can have on some systems. With out respect to how much disk space you have. Try deleting a number of small files and see what happens.
that worked!...I just deleted files a few hours ago...I never would have guessed...thanks
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:37:38pm |
re: #126 pingjockey
Come to think of it neither have I...they must have all been at the EM club or in counseling.
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haakondahl Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:38:05pm |
re: #113 albusteve
I ran my Registry Defense, Kasperski security scan and rebooted...I have tons of disk space...zip...won't load
Then perhaps you have an amazing number of very small files, where you run not out of space, but out of available directory slots. Which is hard to believe, but not impossible. Have you emptied the trash, hard-delete, defrag, all that stuff? Defrag especially can free up nodes (I think) by allowing discontiguous file frags which each require a node to exist as a single piece. I think.
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pingjockey Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:39:11pm |
re: #129 LionOfDixon
Heh. I give the AF credit, their bases always have really nice golf courses!
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SixDegrees Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:39:31pm |
re: #114 avanti
To be honest, it's hard to believe. The KOS poll is suspect, but now this one ? I'll wait to see how the polling was done before I buy it 100%.
Given that 74% of Democrats believe the 9/11 attacks were an inside job perpetrated by the Bush Administration, perhaps this is believable, too.
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Jimmah Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:39:51pm |
re: #115 Honorary Yooper
That's freaking insane. What's even worse is the folks who believe that claptrap and then proceed the use the items modern science and technology has made for us using these theories and facts that these religious nuts deny.
As for dinosaurs existing today, yeah, they exist. We call them "birds". ;-)
Absolutely. And then there's that sick stuff promoting racial apartheid in the package as well. It's a disgrace that this intellectually damaging and morally reprehensible course was given official academic accreditation.
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JustABill Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:40:05pm |
re: #128 albusteve
that worked!...I just deleted files a few hours ago...I never would have guessed...thanks
Cool. happy computing...
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avanti Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:40:10pm |
re: #109 sattv4u2
Will you PLEASE refrain from using logic and reason when talking about the auto industry and/ or The 0ne's policies with Avanti
Here's all you need to acknowledge
A) even though the 200,000 cars sold under the CFC program are a small fraction of total new car sales in a year
1) they "jump started" the industry
2) dealers are out of stock because of it (not because of production cuts and 4-6 weeks of plant closuresStick to the talking pionts, please
CHANGE!!! HOPE !!
Attack the CARS program as misguided if you like, but you can't dispute it's moving cars unless you are living in a cave.
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avanti Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:41:31pm |
re: #132 SixDegrees
Given that 74% of Democrats believe the 9/11 attacks were an inside job perpetrated by the Bush Administration, perhaps this is believable, too.
Could I get a link to that, or were you making a funny ?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:44:58pm |
re: #135 avanti
Attack the CARS program as misguided if you like, but you can't dispute it's moving cars unless you are living in a cave.
It's moving cars
200,000 of them
but at what cost?
200,000 X's $4,500 equals 900 MILLION of our dollars at a time when we have NO money
Do some math. 200,000 people get new cars. THEY benefit. 25,000 car dealers across the country sell 12-15 cars more this year than they "normally" would
SO ,, about 225,000 people GAIN at the cost of 304 MILLION people
BRILLAINT
I think Obama should run EVERY business !!
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LionOfDixon Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:47:44pm |
re: #139 sattv4u2
Plus this doesn't factor in the loss of business to parts manufacturers and stores, repair shops, oil change places, used car lots, etc...those guys are out of money, while government-owned car makers reap the benefit. So much for the small guy.
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albusteve Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:48:12pm |
re: #135 avanti
Attack the CARS program as misguided if you like, but you can't dispute it's moving cars unless you are living in a cave.
moving cars is not the govt's nor your business...why do you support this intrusion into my personal life?...I don't want to subsidize the car business, and I should not have to...who gives a fuck whether it's successful except socialists?
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SixDegrees Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:48:13pm |
re: #136 pingjockey
What? Is that a real poll number?
Several people posted links to this yesterday. I think it was a Rasmussen poll - which, of course, will be used as an excuse to ignore it, if true, ignoring the huge percentages in favor of denial - but I don't recall; I never followed the link. The results just didn't surprise me that much; I spent a huge amount of time on another forum chipping away at trooferism, and the most disturbing thing about it was the vast number who bought into such bilge and continued to argue that it was true after every scrap of "factual" evidence they tossed up was proven to be wrong.
Never forget that, statistically speaking, half of the population is below average.
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SixDegrees Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:48:46pm |
re: #138 avanti
Could I get a link to that, or were you making a funny ?
Dig around downstairs. Several people posted it yesterday.
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SixDegrees Mon, Aug 3, 2009 12:57:10pm |
re: #139 sattv4u2
It's moving cars
200,000 of them
but at what cost?200,000 X's $4,500 equals 900 MILLION of our dollars at a time when we have NO money
Do some math. 200,000 people get new cars. THEY benefit. 25,000 car dealers across the country sell 12-15 cars more this year than they "normally" wouldSO ,, about 225,000 people GAIN at the cost of 304 MILLION people
BRILLAINT
I think Obama should run EVERY business !!
Also, these sales improvement numbers are being measured against the same period last year - when the auto industry was already deeply in the tank. They're still not anything to cheer about. Ford's are the best by far - they show an increase in sales of 1.6% over last July's numbers. But last July's numbers were down 15% over the previous year's figures. GM and Chrysler, meanwhile, are showing, well, smaller losses than last year. But they're still bleeding money, even after clearing the decks of debt and contractual obligations they were hamstrung by in the past; Chrysler was only able to pull off this feat by doubling the discount, taking $9000 - more than half - off the price of it's eligible vehicles in order to move them. They are losing money on every car they sell and their sales are still shrinking.
Show me a quarter or two of solid improvement, and I'll start to believe a turnaround has arrived. Keep the CFC program going that long, however, and you're shoveling dollars into an inflationary furnace, building that $4500 into the price of every vehicle sold, in the same way that the rebates demanded by consumers simply boost the asking price.
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HistoryInAction Mon, Aug 3, 2009 3:54:00pm |
Please support Mr. Yon, as without "substantial increases" he'll have to stop reporting on Afghanistan in September, according to his site. He says essentially that Afghanistan is a money-sink for him.
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