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1 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:26:35pm

let's be jolly

2 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:27:37pm

Those plants are really evolving fast.

3 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:27:42pm

Anybody else scintillated yet?

4 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:28:19pm

Scintillation

Is it legal? Moral? Healthy?

5 Bear  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:30:42pm

Good evening to all. Overcast here all day with a trace of rain. The rain is good as it will keep the dust down where the State is resurfacing the road in front.

6 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:30:44pm

amazing! Love the music loop too.

7 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:30:50pm

re: #4 jcm

Scintillation

Is it legal? Moral? Healthy?

Is scintillation organic? (Thread fixation)

8 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:31:37pm

re: #1 albusteve

let's be jolly


Time out...Jeez the Viking Defense is amazing..Just monsters...And super fast..Watch out NFL ...Not only are the Ends unstoppable the Vikings are tough in the middle...Halftime report coming up

9 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:31:52pm

re: #6 snowcrash

amazing! Love the music loop too.

Dr Hook

10 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:32:07pm

I'm drinking enough bank-provided Colombian coffee that I think I'm singlehandedly keeping Colombia's legit export sector in business right now- should I expect a thank you letter from Presidente Uribe?

11 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:33:01pm

re: #8 HoosierHoops

Time out...Jeez the Viking Defense is amazing..Just monsters...And super fast..Watch out NFL ...Not only are the Ends unstoppable the Vikings are tough in the middle...Halftime report coming up

and they have A Peterson too...he's a beast

12 Achilles Tang  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:34:22pm

This is my first post in this this thread.

Goodnight all.

13 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:35:05pm

re: #8 HoosierHoops

Time out...Jeez the Viking Defense is amazing..Just monsters...And super fast..Watch out NFL ...Not only are the Ends unstoppable the Vikings are tough in the middle...Halftime report coming up

/unfortunately, our QB still can't read defenses or speak in complete English sentences

14 Bear  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:35:26pm

re: #12 Naso Tang

And a good ight to you. Sleep tight.

15 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:35:43pm

re: #8 HoosierHoops

Time out...Jeez the Viking Defense is amazing..Just monsters...And super fast..Watch out NFL ...Not only are the Ends unstoppable the Vikings are tough in the middle...Halftime report coming up

On which channel is this game?

16 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:35:53pm

re: #13 Killian Bundy

/unfortunately, our QB still can't read defenses or speak in complete English sentences

who's that?

17 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:36:08pm

Cool vid.

I got a glimpse of what it must be like to take LSD

18 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:37:15pm

re: #16 albusteve

who's that?

/Tarvaris Jackson, easily one of the dumbest players in the NFL

19 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:37:33pm

re: #15 Soona'

On which channel is this game?

Downtown Indy...Vikings Vs. Colts.. 3min till halftime...

20 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:37:50pm

re: #9 albusteve

Dr Hook


Really? Reminds me of Art of Noise or something.

21 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:38:01pm

Wonderfully done video.

22 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:38:15pm

This one was just emailed to me. A little too much gratuitous littering for my taste, but otherwise, it's ... well, I like it.

Did you know you can play a video in preview?!?

23 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:40:00pm

re: #19 HoosierHoops

Thanks for reminding me...the NFL is now available on Sirius/XM. Not sure how I'll be spending my Sundays this fall...but since I already get the NHL, NBA, MLB and NCAA Football...why the heck not?

24 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:40:09pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

Did you know you can play a video in preview?!?

You betcha.

25 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:40:26pm

re: #18 Killian Bundy

/Tarvaris Jackson, easily one of the dumbest players in the NFL

don't know anything about him...big arm

26 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:40:38pm

re: #13 Killian Bundy

unfortunately, our QB still can't read defenses or speak in complete English sentences

You guys signed some old Bears QB's?

27 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:41:03pm

Tiger Woods is -2 in today's round of the PGA Championship at Hazeltine. Overall, he's -7 and 4 shots ahead of the field.

Looks like he could be adding another major to his belt.

There's something very gratifying about watching someone who is the best in the world at something do that thing.

28 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:41:40pm

re: #27 Pianobuff

Tiger Woods is -2 in today's round of the PGA Championship at Hazeltine. Overall, he's -7 and 4 shots ahead of the field.

Looks like he could be adding another major to his belt.

There's something very gratifying about watching someone who is the best in the world at something do that thing.

Tiger Woods is a man among boys.

29 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:41:50pm

re: #26 3 wood

You guys signed some old Bears QB's?

and they make fun of Romo...envy me thinks

30 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:41:54pm

Evening Honcos, that video was a trip. ;-)

31 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:42:57pm

Heya PBJ- how goes it?

32 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:43:10pm

re: #26 3 wood

You guys signed some old Bears QB's?

Is Avellini still looking for a job?

33 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:43:45pm

Here's another one from this chick...
Ukraine Got Talent 2009 Winner

34 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:44:05pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

Heya PBJ- how goes it?

Good, thanks, especially since it's Friday. Had a very busy week.

35 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:44:16pm

Does anyone know how I can get a seat on a death panel?

I would like to be there to deal with some murderers.

36 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:44:40pm

Advice from cooks -- I have some fresh frozen fish, and I want to bake it. Do I need to defrost it first or can I just toss it into a Pyrex dish with a little water, cover it and bake from frozen?

Also, what's the best oven temperature for that situation?

37 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:44:52pm

re: #28 Dahveed

Tiger Woods is a man among boys.

Tiger is a man with no equal. We are blessed to be able to watch him.

38 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:45:01pm

Pretty damned cool.

39 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:45:34pm

I don't watch MTV anymore. When I did, they did this very strange thing - they played music videos. One after another.

When I channel surf and run across the various MTV stations they never seem to be showing videos. Do they?

40 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:47:40pm

re: #36 Charles

Advice from cooks -- I have some fresh frozen fish, and I want to bake it. Do I need to defrost it first or can I just toss it into a Pyrex dish with a little water, cover it and bake from frozen?

Also, what's the best oven temperature for that situation?

If you don't mind dry fish, baking from frozen is ok - you have to either cook at higher heat or longer because it's frozen. You can keep it moister by coating with olive oil, and a few sliced tomatoes. If you want it juicy, then defro first. I recommend fully cooked but juicy for that good fish cholesterol fix.

41 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:47:54pm

re: #39 karmic_inquisitor

I don't watch MTV anymore. When I did, they did this very strange thing - they played music videos. One after another.

When I channel surf and run across the various MTV stations they never seem to be showing videos. Do they?

that just sounds funny...why would MTV matter to anyone?

42 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:48:08pm

re: #36 Charles

Advice from cooks -- I have some fresh frozen fish, and I want to bake it. Do I need to defrost it first or can I just toss it into a Pyrex dish with a little water, cover it and bake from frozen?

Also, what's the best oven temperature for that situation?

With frozen fish be careful how much water you add. The fish will make its own from frozen. I would put some olive oil and spices on it and stick in in the oven at 180 C or 350F. Depending on thickness cook or 30 to 40 minutes.

43 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:48:10pm

re: #39 karmic_inquisitor

Haven't you heard? They're all about rocking the vote now...

44 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:48:53pm

The video is what a cat sees when it's on catnip.

45 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:49:12pm

re: #36 Charles

Advice from cooks -- I have some fresh frozen fish, and I want to bake it. Do I need to defrost it first or can I just toss it into a Pyrex dish with a little water, cover it and bake from frozen?

Also, what's the best oven temperature for that situation?

How about this? [Link: www.cookitfrozen.com...]

46 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:49:29pm

What kind of fish, and how thick?

47 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:49:48pm

re: #37 Erik The Red

Tiger is a man with no equal. We are blessed to be able to watch him.


Tiger is like a carniverous annimal... thank God he is not on a democratic death panel. He would be as merciless as he is on the links while anhilating those who oppose him
48 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:49:59pm

Uh-oh:
Colonial Bank Fails, Acquired by BB&T

Colonial Bank was shut down late Friday, the fifth largest bank to fail in U.S. history and the largest financial institution closed by regulators since Washington Mutual last fall.

The Alabama Banking Department took over Colonial Bank, a subsidiary of Colonial BancGroup, and appointed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. receiver. The FDIC then sold all of the institution's deposits and branches to BB&T Corp. .

Colonial's failure came after regulators shut down Dwelling House Savings and Loan Association of Pittsburgh, whose sole branch and all of its deposits were acquired by PNC Financial Services Group

Just so you know, this is a real bad thing to have go happen, especially after the MSM has announced that the recession is over and has been patting the Messiah on the back. Cant blame Bush for this one, with a straight face that is.


There are likely to be a lot of ripple effects from this. Colonial did a lot of lending in a lot of very complicated participation and down stream deals. Don't be surprised to see other banks fold next week.

Bernanke has to be in the fetal position on a floor somewhere whimpering and calling for Mama.

49 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:50:11pm

re: #36 Charles

Advice from cooks -- I have some fresh frozen fish, and I want to bake it. Do I need to defrost it first or can I just toss it into a Pyrex dish with a little water, cover it and bake from frozen?

Also, what's the best oven temperature for that situation?

Generally defrost first. But if it is a thin piece of fish like Tilapia you can go straight to bake.

We pull ours and defrost in the refrigerator for about 8 hours. But in a pinch a tub of ice water will work. Warm water invites bacteria that can change the taste of the fish (or even make your evening quite eventful). Ice water is still warmer than frozen and will facilitate heat transfer faster than the air.

50 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:51:59pm

re: #27 Pianobuff

There's something very gratifying about watching someone who is the best in the world at something do that thing.

he has adjusted his swing quite well to his bad knee. It's subtle, but if you watch his swing now and compare it to 2 years ago, it's a lot different. He's flatened out the swing arc, for one thing.

51 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:52:15pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Cool. Love the Ukraine.

52 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:52:42pm

Yo, Avanti, you around?

53 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:53:33pm

re: #46 Thanos

What kind of fish, and how thick?

It's Alaskan King Salmon from Trader Joe's, and it already has a marinade on it.

54 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:53:49pm

re: #50 3 wood

he has adjusted his swing quite well to his bad knee. It's subtle, but if you watch his swing now and compare it to 2 years ago, it's a lot different. He's flatened out the swing arc, for one thing.

I've noticed that. Watching him play now you can also really see his mental maturation as well. His concept of course management is completely different than in his younger years, IMO.

55 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:53:56pm

re: #36 Charles

Advice from cooks -- I have some fresh frozen fish, and I want to bake it. Do I need to defrost it first or can I just toss it into a Pyrex dish with a little water, cover it and bake from frozen?

Also, what's the best oven temperature for that situation?


Since walter isn't here, I will mention that if it's frozen it isn't fresh
( sorry )

I make a lot of Frozen Sockeye salmon from Whole Foods and I like to gently thaw it with warm water over about 10 minutes.( while it's in their plastic wrap)
I cook it on 275 degrees for about 25 minutes ( covered in thinly sliced lemon )
and it doesn't overcook


SAlmon is so delecate, I just think it cooks so much better when it's thawed and microwaving it to defrost it really cooks the ends and ruins it

56 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:54:04pm

Just asked a cook on the grill line here - in a pinch, the fast/safe way is to place the fish under running cold water.

Not sure if the water running should make a difference, but he says it does.

57 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:54:11pm

re: #50 3 wood

he has adjusted his swing quite well to his bad knee. It's subtle, but if you watch his swing now and compare it to 2 years ago, it's a lot different. He's flatened out the swing arc, for one thing.

Is it as dramatic as the change he made in the 90s when Butch Harmond worked to change his swing?

58 Coracle  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:54:19pm

re: #36 Charles

Advice from cooks -- I have some fresh frozen fish, and I want to bake it. Do I need to defrost it first or can I just toss it into a Pyrex dish with a little water, cover it and bake from frozen?

Also, what's the best oven temperature for that situation?

The more water you put in there, the closer you'll get to boiled or poached fish. I say it's worth the defrost.

59 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:54:20pm

re: #50 3 wood

he has adjusted his swing quite well to his bad knee. It's subtle, but if you watch his swing now and compare it to 2 years ago, it's a lot different. He's flatened out the swing arc, for one thing.

we talked about this injury last year...I thought it would be more difficult for him to get it back...but he is still making some very poor shots...he's just good enough to recover...I don't see the old Woods yet

60 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:54:36pm

Charles,

If it's a big piece of fish and frozen solid, cut it in half. It will cook more evenly that way -- if you're adding liquid and covering the dish you don't have to worry about it drying out. Don't cook it for any specific length of time, just till it's done.

Doesn't have to be thawed. Look at all the frozen prepared meals that are sold.

61 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:54:53pm

re: #36 Charles

325 f, with a little butter, it's ready when flakes by fork, better to defrost first.

62 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:55:08pm

re: #36 Charles

Advice from cooks -- I have some fresh frozen fish, and I want to bake it. Do I need to defrost it first or can I just toss it into a Pyrex dish with a little water, cover it and bake from frozen?

Also, what's the best oven temperature for that situation?

Depends on what kind of fish, whole or fillets?


If you want them baked you can make pochettes (sp). Lay the fillet out on tinfoil. sprinkle with lemon juice salt pepper, herbs. Fold the tinfoil to make a pouch. Make sure that it's not too tight, you want the heated air to expand. Bake on 300 for maybe 15 minutes if they're thawed. I'd guess maybe 20-25 minutes.

63 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:55:51pm

re: #53 Charles

King salmon is the best.

64 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:55:55pm

re: #59 albusteve

I don't see the old Woods yet

You never will, that was lost to the surgeons knife.

But he will raise his short game another notch and make up the difference that way.

65 Bear  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:56:01pm

re: #53 Charles

The commercial fishers up in Alaska Thank You!

66 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:56:04pm

re: #53 Charles

It's Alaskan King Salmon from Trader Joe's, and it already has a marinade on it.

In that case just follow the instructions on the package for frozen - it's hard to wreck north pacific salmon.
If it's King I'm assuming thick patty, I'd bake in foil with butter personally, but I'm decadent so you probably want olive oil if you add anything, I'd skip the water if it's got a marinade.

67 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:56:26pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

But easy on the lemon juice

68 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:56:37pm

re: #59 albusteve

we talked about this injury last year...I thought it would be more difficult for him to get it back...but he is still making some very poor shots...he's just good enough to recover...I don't see the old Woods yet

That's exactly it. He has been hitting the ball erratic off the tee. But he is able to play everywhere else so well that it doesn't seem to matter..

69 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:56:37pm

re: #53 Charles

It's Alaskan King Salmon from Trader Joe's, and it already has a marinade on it.

Is it in a bag? I that how you'd have to defrost it? If so it may take a while in ice water. Salmon is usually a thick cut.

70 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:56:59pm

Sorry...reading up on the IDF's Unit Oketz in another window...

71 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:57:20pm

Thaw the fish... then read a Jamaican cook book, it will tell you how to make escovitch sause... limes, onions and pepper after you get done frying.

72 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:57:29pm

re: #57 shanec99

Is it as dramatic as the change he made in the 90s when Butch Harmond worked to change his swing?

Nope, you have to be looking for it to see it. i was looking for it cause I had to make some of the same changes when I hurt my shoulder. He's hitting more draws with the flatter swing and lower trajectory shots. It protects his knee to swing like that.

73 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:57:34pm

re: #8 HoosierHoops

Time out...Jeez the Viking Defense is amazing..Just monsters...And super fast..Watch out NFL ...Not only are the Ends unstoppable the Vikings are tough in the middle...Halftime report coming up

I am a former Viqueen fan. They will find a way to blow it. They always do.

74 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:57:41pm

re: #48 3 wood

Uh-oh:
Colonial Bank Fails, Acquired by BB&T

Just so you know, this is a real bad thing to have go happen, especially after the MSM has announced that the recession is over and has been patting the Messiah on the back. Cant blame Bush for this one, with a straight face that is.

There are likely to be a lot of ripple effects from this. Colonial did a lot of lending in a lot of very complicated participation and down stream deals. Don't be surprised to see other banks fold next week.

Bernanke has to be in the fetal position on a floor somewhere whimpering and calling for Mama.

Then there's the Deutsche Bank assessment and all that toxic paper still out there that didn't get bought up as promised.

75 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:57:55pm

Yeah, it's frozen in a shrink-wrapped package, with the marinade already on it.

Maybe I should defrost in the microwave first?

76 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:57:56pm

re: #64 3 wood

You never will, that was lost to the surgeons knife.

But he will raise his short game another notch and make up the difference that way.

that game is always been excellent...his tee's and second shots have been less than Woodslike...we'll see...I enjoy watching him play just as much

77 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:58:22pm

re: #63 HelloDare

King salmon is the best.

They're fun to catch too.

78 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 5:58:58pm

Riverdancing Chimps!

79 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:00:03pm

re: #75 Charles

Yeah, it's frozen in a shrink-wrapped package, with the marinade already on it.

Maybe I should defrost in the microwave first?

If it is shrink wrapped then run it under water a bit.

80 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:00:04pm

re: #75 Charles

Maybe I should defrost in the microwave first?


Blasphemy!
Try the pochette thing at #62. The foil pouch will prevent the fish from drying out for the longer cooking time.

81 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:00:07pm

chick blues...excellent stuff

82 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:00:08pm

Fewer king salmon returning to Alaska
People along Yukon blame pollock fishery, say salmon get caught in nets

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Yukon River smokehouses should be filled this summer with oil-rich strips of king salmon — long used by Alaska Natives as a high-energy food to get through the long Alaska winters. But they're mostly empty.

The kings failed to show up, and not just in the Yukon.

One Alaska river after another has been closed to king fishing this summer because significant numbers of fish failed to return to spawn. The dismally weak return follows weak runs last summer and poor runs in 2007, which also

83 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:00:13pm

With King Salmon you can easily tell when it's getting done by poking with a fork at the thick part and seeing how it flakes in the center. If you go frozen I'd do 325 & longer, and if it's thawed 350. Time should be 30 -50 minutes by using flake test -- I hesitate to tell you the time to bake without seeing the size.

84 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:00:18pm

re: #74 spidly

Then there's the Deutsche Bank assessment and all that toxic paper still out there that didn't get bought up as promised.

And I think that credit card loans loans and the securitization of those loans may be the next shoe to drop. Far too many people out of work and I have to think some are near their limit.

85 Bear  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:00:28pm

Too bad that you have to have frozen salmon. Fresh caught is best. Then if you never had fresh caught Alaskan halibut you have no idea the difference in taste between it and frozen.

86 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:01:00pm

best salmon recipe from this thread goes into the next cookbook.

Sockeye Salmon
Shug's Jerk Dry rub
-- allspice
--clove
--cinnamon
-- cayenne
--white pepper
--salt

sear on hot pan for 30 seconds each side.
then place in 275 degree oven for about 25 minutes.

Serve with mango salsa
--mango
--red onion
--honey
--cilantro
--dash of vinegar if you like tartness
--lime juice from 1/2 or 1 lime depending on preference
--salt pepper

( let sit in refrigerator for an hour or more so the ingredients can get to know one another)


Money

87 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:01:08pm

re: #77 Soona'

They're fun to catch too.

especially on lighter tackle...the charters use canons

88 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:01:13pm

re: #78 Pianobuff

LOL! Now that's funny.

89 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:01:31pm

re: #75 Charles

Yeah, it's frozen in a shrink-wrapped package, with the marinade already on it.

Maybe I should defrost in the microwave first?

I wouldnt' defrost that fish in the micro to be honest. Maybe if it's sealed just dunk it in some luke warm water. In about 15 mins should be decent.

90 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:01:34pm

re: #48 3 wood

Uh-oh:
Colonial Bank Fails, Acquired by BB&T

Just so you know, this is a real bad thing to have go happen, especially after the MSM has announced that the recession is over and has been patting the Messiah on the back. Cant blame Bush for this one, with a straight face that is.

There are likely to be a lot of ripple effects from this. Colonial did a lot of lending in a lot of very complicated participation and down stream deals. Don't be surprised to see other banks fold next week.

Bernanke has to be in the fetal position on a floor somewhere whimpering and calling for Mama.

If 5% to 7% of mortgages out there are "bad" we have not even seen the beginning of how bad this is really going to get.

91 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:01:42pm

re: #75 Charles

Defrost in a pan of cool water to avoid harming the flavour in the microwave.

92 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:01:51pm

re: #75 Charles

Yeah, it's frozen in a shrink-wrapped package, with the marinade already on it.

Maybe I should defrost in the microwave first?


nooo... never microwave good fish. The action of microwaves on the water molecules will destroy the fish's texture.

A pox on you for suggesting such a thing. Barbarian.

93 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:01:52pm

re: #83 Thanos

With King Salmon you can easily tell when it's getting done by poking with a fork at the thick part and seeing how it flakes in the center. If you go frozen I'd do 325 & longer, and if it's thawed 350. Time should be 30 -50 minutes by using flake test -- I hesitate to tell you the time to bake without seeing the size.

Wait, the thirty minute time is whole fish time... if it's single serving size, more likely 15-25

94 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:02:04pm

re: #75 Charles

Yeah, it's frozen in a shrink-wrapped package, with the marinade already on it.

Maybe I should defrost in the microwave first?

NOOO !

Place it in a large bowl and fill the bowl with warm water. Leave the tap on so that just a bit of water keeps refilling the bowl
go for a walk.
come back in 5 or 6 minutes.

thaw that baby slowly and gently and she will love you for it

95 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:02:07pm

I don't like microwave defrost. Just make a foil pouch like killgore suggests. Cook it at a lower temp for a little longer or until fish flakes with a fork.

96 solomonpanting  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:02:13pm

Good thing Dylan cry racism.

97 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:02:44pm

I have some excellent Beef-O-Roni recipes...let me know and I'll blue my nic

98 The Curmudgeon  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:03:19pm

Salmon, bah! You haven't lived until you've had some down-home, deep-dish toad pie.

99 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:03:38pm

re: #92 shanec99

nooo... never microwave good fish. The action of microwaves on the water molecules will destroy the fish's texture.

A pox on you for suggesting such a thing. Barbarian.

no nukes in Jamaica...roast til done...serve

100 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:03:50pm

re: #95 snowcrash

I don't like microwave defrost. Just make a foil pouch like killgore suggests. Cook it at a lower temp for a little longer or until fish flakes with a fork.

I'm with you on that. Sometimes I think microwave defrost makes anything tough.

101 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:03:56pm

anybody ever watch Hulu ?

Just trying it for the first time at work and watching the Very first episode of "Lost in Space"

so many good shows for free, I keep asking what's the catch ?

102 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:04:11pm

re: #94 Shug

Aargh, a bowl of Cool water.

103 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:04:17pm

re: #97 albusteve

I have some excellent Beef-O-Roni recipes...let me know and I'll blue my nic

Chili-mac. Emmm.
///

104 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:04:26pm

re: #99 albusteve

no nukes in Jamaica...roast til done...serve


or jerked... but works better with pork or chicken.

105 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:04:32pm

re: #101 Shug

anybody ever watch Hulu ?

Just trying it for the first time at work and watching the Very first episode of "Lost in Space"

so many good shows for free, I keep asking what's the catch ?

Your email address goes to the White House.

106 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:05:04pm

re: #104 shanec99

or jerked... but works better with pork or chicken.

Yum. I love jerk chicken.

107 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:05:14pm

Well we just got our daily shipment of snapper, mahi and trout.

I think I will have trout tonight. Caught in a river in Idaho.

108 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:05:17pm

re: #98 The Curmudgeon

Salmon, bah! You haven't lived until you've had some down-home, deep-dish toad pie.

Sounds more like Samlon than Salmon...

109 DrNaughty  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:05:23pm

re: #101 Shug

anybody ever watch Hulu ?

Just trying it for the first time at work and watching the Very first episode of "Lost in Space"

so many good shows for free, I keep asking what's the catch ?

There are two Lost In Space pilots. one with Smith.. one without...

110 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:05:48pm

Well speaking of food I figure I'll share my absolute favorite recipe with the Lizards. Here is what we are having for dinner tonight:

[Link: foodnetwork.com - baked ziti]

The ziti is amazing and only takes about 45 minutes wire to wire. I serve it with some hot Italian sausage links, salad and italian bread, spread with roasted garlic. Heaven.

111 hopperandadropper  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:06:09pm

Hey Charles, when are you going to commemorate Les Paul?

112 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:06:38pm

re: #111 hopperandadropper

I think he did yesterday or something. If that's what you mean.

113 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:07:06pm

More on Colonial:

Regulators close Colonial Bank; assets sold to BB&T

NEW YORK (Reuters) – Colonial Bank, of Montgomery Ala., was shuttered on Friday and its assets sold to southeast regional bank BB&T Corp, marking the largest bank failure this year.
The bank closure -- the 74th this year -- brings an end to the Alabama lender which has seen its problems mount amid the financial crisis.
The failure of Colonial Bank, which had total assets of $25 billion, is expected to cost the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp's insurance fund $2.8 billion.
BB&T, Winston-Salem, N.C., will buy about $22 billion of Colonial's assets, according to the FDIC. The FDIC and BB&T have agreed to share losses on about $15 billion of those assets. The bank had deposits of about $20 billion as of June 30.
Colonial's holding company Colonial BancGroup Inc said last Friday it faced a criminal probe related to accounting irregularities at its mortgage lending unit.
On Thursday, Bank of America Corp won a temporary restraining order against Colonial when a federal judge in Miami ordered it to freeze $1 billion in assets.
BB&T said it will not buy any of the assets or assume any obligations of Colonial's holding company, including any relating to, Taylor, Bean and Whitaker Mortgage Corp.


Now folks, I've been warning about the market and the banks here for weeks, and got chided by some for it and called a fear monger by others.

When I start taking like that, I hope my friends here, even on the left, would know by know that it's cause I'm hearing about things that I believe to be true but can't get specific for cause that would be touting stocks, which is highly illegal and probably frowned upon by the proprietor.

But now you can see that I knew what I was talking about.

Now I'm saying other banks are likely to fail next week or so...

114 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:07:07pm

Judy Robinson was the source of many boyhood fantasies.

man was she hot

115 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:07:07pm

Here it says:
[Link: www.cookitfrozen.com...]

HONEY-DIJON ALASKA SALMON

Preheat oven to 400.
BAKE 26 to 30 minutes for frozen salmon OR 20 to 22 minutes for fresh/thawed fish. Cook just until fish is opaque throughout.

I think you could take it out of the package and put it on a foil pan. Doesn't say here to wrap it.

116 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:08:10pm

re: #84 Dahveed

And I think that credit card loans loans and the securitization of those loans may be the next shoe to drop. Far too many people out of work and I have to think some are near their limit.

I am just not really incredibly optimistic about the "recovery" we're in. But then I'm looking at the third job I've had in 9 months getting shaky. Could be shutting the doors - again.

117 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:08:15pm

re: #115 American Sabra

Here it says:
[Link: www.cookitfrozen.com...]

HONEY-DIJON ALASKA SALMON


I think you could take it out of the package and put it on a foil pan. Doesn't say here to wrap it.


frozen.

bah ! Barbarians!

118 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:08:16pm

re: #106 Pvt Bin Jammin

Yum. I love jerk chicken.


Go to Boston (in Jamaica, not the liberal city on the east coast) and get some real Boston jerked meat. Just dont eat with your fingers... the flavor will get onto them and you may even be tempted to suck and lick them in public. Poor style.

119 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:08:22pm

re: #111 hopperandadropper

Hey Charles, when are you going to commemorate Les Paul?

he did a thread on it, but maybe a lighter LGF centric commemoration would be a poll where every answer choice is : Les Paul!

120 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:08:36pm

Mmmkay. The scientific consensus seems to be to first let the fish defrost in its shrink-wrapped package (two medium-sized fillets, inch-thick at the most) in luke warm water for 15-20 minutes, then bake in a covered Pyrex dish at 350 degrees for about 30 minutes.

And don't even think about microwaving that bad boy.

121 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:08:42pm

re: #106 Pvt Bin Jammin

Yum. I love jerk chicken.

I won't.
Yes I will.
Jerked or Choked?
///

122 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:08:52pm

re: #104 shanec99

or jerked... but works better with pork or chicken.

I eat so much fish and chicken down there...some pork...I ask what kind of fish is this?...they stare at me and say, fish from the sea mon!...I love that island...Rundown, made with barracuda...OMG good!

123 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:09:10pm

re: #111 hopperandadropper

Hey Charles, when are you going to commemorate Les Paul?

I did. The post is on the front page.

124 Wendya  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:09:35pm

Lessons learned: Never allow the dog in the laundry room when you're replacing the lid switch on a washing machine.

125 DrNaughty  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:09:41pm

re: #114 Shug

Judy Robinson was the source of many boyhood fantasies.

man was she hot

When I first discovered Hulu about a year ago I went back and watched all the Irwin Allen shows...

I can't believe that they canceled The Time Tunnel after one season

126 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:09:58pm

re: #120 Charles

Cool water is considered the safe way.

127 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:10:10pm

re: #99 albusteve

no nukes in Jamaica...roast til done...serve

Or Charles can put the fish back into the freezer and go to a good restaurant and order some salmon.

128 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:10:11pm

re: #120 Charles

Mmmkay. The scientific consensus seems to be to first let the fish defrost in its shrink-wrapped package (two medium-sized fillets, inch-thick at the most) in luke warm water for 15-20 minutes, then bake in a covered Pyrex dish at 350 degrees for about 30 minutes.

And don't even think about microwaving that bad boy.

then take a photo of the much discussed fish for the overnight thread.

129 Lawrior  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:10:24pm

re: #41 albusteve

I remember when it did matter to me. Now, I listen to much better music thanks to the interwebs helping me find new music. Sure, it helps to have worked in the music business for a few years. In either case, MTV's star faded a bit faster than I would have preferred.

130 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:10:28pm

re: #121 VegasRick

I won't.
Yes I will.
Jerked or Choked?
///

real men never choke their chiken in Jamaica.

131 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:10:34pm

re: #118 shanec99

Go to Boston (in Jamaica, not the liberal city on the east coast) and get some real Boston jerked meat. Just dont eat with your fingers... the flavor will get onto them and you may even be tempted to suck and lick them in public. Poor style.

done that, many times myself

132 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:10:49pm

re: #120 Charles

Mmmkay. The scientific consensus seems to be to first let the fish defrost in its shrink-wrapped package (two medium-sized fillets, inch-thick at the most) in luke warm water for 15-20 minutes, then bake in a covered Pyrex dish at 350 degrees for about 30 minutes.

And don't even think about microwaving that bad boy.

So... we'll be over in about 30 mins? I don't think 2 fillets will do it though.

133 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:10:59pm

I can't think of a better way to bring folks together than an LGF food festival. I could commit to pulled pork, slaw and sweet pickle potato salad.

134 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:11:07pm

re: #118 shanec99

Go to Boston (in Jamaica, not the liberal city on the east coast) and get some real Boston jerked meat. Just dont eat with your fingers... the flavor will get onto them and you may even be tempted to suck and lick them in public. Poor style.

Thanks, I'll have to remember that. We used to have a pretty good jamaican owned restaurant around here but notice that they've either moved or gone out of business.

135 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:11:37pm

re: #122 albusteve

I eat so much fish and chicken down there...some pork...I ask what kind of fish is this?...they stare at me and say, fish from the sea mon!...I love that island...Rundown, made with barracuda...OMG good!

well its to say not from a pond, farm, lake or river. The guy answered you it seemed.

136 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:11:47pm

re: #90 Truck Monkey

If 5% to 7% of mortgages out there are "bad" we have not even seen the beginning of how bad this is really going to get.

I'm waiting for a certain left winger to show up and tell me about how the economy is doing good.

137 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:12:44pm

re: #116 spidly

I am just not really incredibly optimistic about the "recovery" we're in. But then I'm looking at the third job I've had in 9 months getting shaky. Could be shutting the doors - again.

That is horrendous, but I (only) kinda' know how you feel. My company was just given a whole lot of new capital, but I think that will only lead to another buying us out. So, I may be in that position within a year or so.

Good luck to you.

138 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:13:08pm

I'd be feeling a bit better if the drop in unemployment were due to jobs and not more people going U6. Call me crazy.

139 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:13:25pm

re: #133 Locker

I can't think of a better way to bring folks together than an LGF food festival. I could commit to pulled pork, slaw and sweet pickle potato salad.

I will bring the keg and tequila.

140 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:13:41pm

re: #97 albusteve

I have some excellent Beef-O-Roni recipes...let me know and I'll blue my nic

Amen bro...Nobody made it through college with out Beef-O-Roni...
It was great...Tomato soup with a can of french green beans (29cents)
Cottage Cheese and eggs...
dried fruit...Those were the good old days *wink*

141 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:13:48pm
142 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:14:04pm

ministry of food, quick salmon tikka with cucumber yoghurt (video)

I really want to try his cooking technique: no oil in the pan

143 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:14:04pm

re: #135 shanec99

well its to say not from a pond, farm, lake or river. The guy answered you it seemed.

yes, I've had the best seafood of my life down there, speared on the reef and cooked up fresh...doesn't matter what it is, but everyone knows a 'cuda...a delicacy

144 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:14:11pm

I use cold water to defrost meat.

145 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:14:26pm

re: #139 Erik The Red

I will bring the keg and tequila.

Outstanding and how silly of me to forget my two favorite drinks. Blue Moon beer and Ketel One vodka. We could have a time.

146 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:14:35pm

re: #136 3 wood

I'm waiting for a certain left winger to show up and tell me about how the economy is doing good.

He has been scarce lately.

147 Lawrior  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:15:02pm

re: #140 HoosierHoops

Sadly, I'm heading back to those days. In less than a week, I trade in my comfy bed in a nice house for a dorm room. This "education" had best be worth it.

148 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:15:18pm

re: #136 3 wood

I'm waiting for a certain left winger to show up and tell me about how the economy is doing good.

The car man? Quite a dead cat bounce we've had since March though. I have moved quite a bit of Boom Boom out of the Stock Market of late. What I see coming scares the horsesqueeze out of me. The fundamentals are not at all good.

149 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:15:24pm

re: #137 Dahveed
I am praying the recover holds... My IRA lost half of its value last year... so far I have made back about 50% of my losses... God please keep the recovery going... I cant afford a double dip recession.

150 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:15:37pm

re: #140 HoosierHoops

Amen bro...Nobody made it through college with out Beef-O-Roni...
It was great...Tomato soup with a can of french green beans (29cents)
Cottage Cheese and eggs...
dried fruit...Those were the good old days *wink*

I think I lived entirely on Raman and Kraft Macaroni and Cheese with the occasional spaghetti sandwich thrown in. Nice flashback.

151 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:15:49pm

re: #96 solomonpanting

Good thing Dylan cry racism.

Cry racism? I must have missed that part. The article is pretty funny.

152 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:16:13pm

re: #144 Sharmuta

I had granite counter tops put in last year. Things defrost really quick if I just put them out on the counter. The granite conducts the cold (or something like that)

153 [deleted]  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:16:17pm
154 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:16:25pm

re: #138 spidly

I'd be feeling a bit better if the drop in unemployment were due to jobs and not more people going U6. Call me crazy.

I'll go you one farther, I'd actually like to see some growth to the GDP. Nutty concept, I know, but that's how us economists are.

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:16:32pm

re: #18 Killian Bundy

/Tarvaris Jackson, easily one of the dumbest players in the NFL

I think that title still belongs to the young man who went to a NY nightclub with a gun in his sweatpants waistband.

156 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:16:57pm

re: #140 HoosierHoops

Amen bro...Nobody made it through college with out Beef-O-Roni...
It was great...Tomato soup with a can of french green beans (29cents)
Cottage Cheese and eggs...
dried fruit...Those were the good old days *wink*

Mighty Dog Turkey in the Tuna Tin. I must admit that I ate it only on a dare and only when very very drunk.

157 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:17:01pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

I had granite counter tops put in last year. Things defrost really quick if I just put them out on the counter. The granite conducts the cold (or something like that)

Same with the cold water. I learned it from Alton Brown, and if you can't trust Mr Kitchen Wizard, who can you trust?

158 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:17:21pm

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

159 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:17:47pm

re: #144 Sharmuta

I use cold water to defrost meat.

Is that what you kids are calling it these days...

//

160 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:18:13pm

I know. I'm Mr. Inquisitive Question Guy tonight.

161 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:18:49pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

It's funny you ask that. I was just thinking about a writing a web scanner to aggregate that data and push out a chart so a user could see who up and down dings them the most and when. I think it help to be honest as it encourages responsibility for your dings, just my opinion.

162 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:03pm

It's because I'm waiting for my salmon to defrost.

163 [deleted]  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:08pm
164 Lawrior  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:15pm

re: #158 Charles

I like knowing who agrees or disagrees with others. It helps sort out where people stand in here even if they don't post that often.

165 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:25pm

re: #158 Charles

I think it helps. If you now the dinger and their likes and dislikes, you have a pretty good idea of why. If you've never encountered them before, you can ask them why they agree or disagree.

166 Chip Designer  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:33pm

I find click identification to be useful to determine who agrees and who disagrees with a particular statement.

167 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:36pm

know

168 Wendya  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:38pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

Hmmm... published names never stopped anyone so I suppose it doesn't help or hurt.

169 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:43pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

I could be a good way to meet chicks.

170 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:19:59pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

oh boy...there is a preoccupation with it, (from someone who does not use it)...I think people just go overboard with the whole concept

171 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:20:03pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

Helps when it's positive.

When a person you respect down dings you, then you rethink what you said so in that way it's helpful.

then there are the down dings that piss me off, especially when they are the stealth downdingers

172 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:20:03pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

People are less likely to down ding. I know I rarely do.

173 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:20:05pm

re: #146 Erik The Red

He has been scarce lately.

He can run but he can't hide.

It kind of reminds me of when one of my freshman undergrads wants to argue about economics.

174 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:20:08pm

re: #143 albusteve

yes, I've had the best seafood of my life down there, speared on the reef and cooked up fresh...doesn't matter what it is, but everyone knows a 'cuda...a delicacy


Best sea food I ever had was the stuff I cooked myself when I was stationed in Diego Garcia and went fishing. Good lord, you could catch some 40 pound tuna.
Second best was when I was stationed in GTMO.

175 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:20:36pm

re: #169 Soona'

I could be a good way to meet chicks.

Ahh Soona, that's a favorite. You made me choke on my ... oh never mind but still... nice 1.

176 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:20:46pm

re: #160 Charles

I know. I'm Mr. Inquisitive Question Guy tonight.

well then Bud Lite salutes you!

177 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:21:28pm

re: #176 albusteve

well then Bud Lite salutes you!


Well done, Mr Clever commercial referencing guy

178 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:21:54pm

re: #175 Locker

Ahh Soona, that's a favorite. You made me choke on my ... oh never mind but still... nice 1.

Stop chokin' your chicken...

179 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:21:55pm

re: #157 Sharmuta

Same with the cold water. I learned it from Alton Brown, and if you can't trust Mr Kitchen Wizard, who can you trust?

They used to sell a teflon coated vented aluminum extrusion for defrosting. One of those things Sham-Wow Vince might sell.

180 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:22:22pm

re: #158 Charles

The right to know the virtual identity of ones accuser has some merit, alternatively, up-dings should be anonymous.

181 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:23:41pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

It helps when you join in the middle of a conversation or thread, kind of see the land of the land.

Or see when the stealth dingers are out and about.

On the subject of steath dingers; is the a way to set a minimum number of comments before dinging is enabled? Encourage them to engage before dinging away.

182 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:23:59pm

It should cost you 1 karma point to see who has updinged/downdinged your own post.

183 [deleted]  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:24:04pm
184 kansas  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:24:04pm

Charles, you still have that Les Paul you played in the video with Stanley Clark? It was sweet.

185 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:24:05pm

Make an LGF poll? I think it works well as is.

186 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:24:13pm

re: #64 3 wood

You never will, that was lost to the surgeons knife.

But he will raise his short game another notch and make up the difference that way.

Kinda like Jordan with the fadeaway jumper.

187 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:24:27pm

re: #174 shanec99

Best sea food I ever had was the stuff I cooked myself when I was stationed in Diego Garcia and went fishing. Good lord, you could catch some 40 pound tuna.
Second best was when I was stationed in GTMO.

I would LOVE to go out and get 40lb tuna on lighter tackle...what a blast

188 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:24:34pm

re: #182 karmic_inquisitor

It should cost you 1 karma point to see who has updinged/downdinged your own post.

Interesting idea.

189 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:25:06pm

re: #179 spidly

They used to sell a teflon coated vented aluminum extrusion for defrosting. One of those things Sham-Wow Vince might sell.

And I remember those! Not as good as cold water.

190 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:25:08pm

re: #185 snowcrash

Make an LGF poll? I think it works well as is.

(+) , ( - ) , (ronpaul)

191 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:25:21pm

re: #163 taxfreekiller

On the funkly flunky klumker kar deal.

Sam Pack who owns 4 or 5 big Ford dealerships here in Texas in the Dallas Ft. Worth market says he has about $1,000,000 in IOU's from the D.C. scam dealers and he is not going to get skinned alive by lies.

The good news is he can look forward to a nice drop in sales since all those "10 year buyers" came in early for the goodies.

192 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:25:23pm

re: #182 karmic_inquisitor

It should cost you 1 karma point to see who has updinged/downdinged your own post.

Ahhh, the price of vanity!

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:25:41pm

re: #182 karmic_inquisitor

It should cost you 1 karma point to see who has updinged/downdinged your own post.

Nooo...I love seeing who dinged me.

Also, it gives me a sense of whether to take stuff serious. If I say something and people I know are sane and intelligent ding me down I may reconsider what I said in light of their response, or at least think about how I said it.

If it's just jerks, why worry?

194 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:25:42pm

re: #181 jcm

On the subject of steath dingers; is the a way to set a minimum number of comments before dinging is enabled? Encourage them to engage before dinging away.

Great idea, if Charles can write the code for it to happen. Say 50 or so comments.

195 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:25:58pm

re: #182 karmic_inquisitor

It should cost you 1 karma point to see who has updinged/downdinged your own post.

Or maybe cost a karma point to down ding someone. That may add more impact to a down ding.

196 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:26:04pm

re: #190 Shug
no, ron paul always wins. lol

197 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:26:30pm

I post, therefore I am...
I do not ding so I'm no help

198 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:26:31pm

re: #188 Charles

Interesting idea.

Must the reward of knowledge always result in pain?

The karmic result should be random, to better fit the human condition.

199 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:26:31pm

re: #189 Sharmuta

And I remember those! Not as good as cold water.

Cold water also doesn't cost you three easy payments of $39.95!

200 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:26:57pm

re: #195 Locker

Or maybe cost a karma point to down ding someone. That may add more impact to a down ding.

That might work...

201 Chip Designer  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:27:00pm

What is the problem with stealth dingers?

I guess that I classify as one, since I rarely comment. That is because I generally comment only if I have something to add to the thread. And with as many members as LGF has, isn't it best if most don't comment?

Lack of commenting doesn't mean that I don't read most of what has been said.

Isn't dinging a way for the "silent majority" to contribute?

202 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:27:46pm

re: #149 shanec99

I am praying the recover holds... My IRA lost half of its value last year... so far I have made back about 50% of my losses... God please keep the recovery going... I cant afford a double dip recession.

You in mutual funds or actual stocks?

Don't answer, I don't need the specifics.

If you are in specific stocks, think about taking some money off the table and shifting to different sectors.

For example, (and again I will be real careful here to avoid touting specific stocks) one could possibly theoretically think about what materials one might possibly shift to in building cars to lighten them up and get better gas mileage.

Think real hard.


Geez, I feel like Rick Blaine in Casa Blanca asking the young man at the roulette wheel "Have you tried number 22 yet tonight?"

203 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:27:55pm

all this talk of jerking and dinging. what the hell?

204 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:28:00pm

re: #190 Shug

(+) , ( - ) , (ronpaul)

(*WHACK*)

Using the (*WHACK*) will cost 10 karma points.

205 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:28:25pm

I knew I should've shaved my legs before I put on those tights.

206 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:28:30pm

re: #182 karmic_inquisitor

It should cost you 1 karma point to see who has updinged/downdinged your own post.

I catch myself looking too often. It is probably unhealthy.

It should not matter.

207 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:28:51pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

IMO, it helps.

It's very useful to know if it's the same people who keep downdinging you. Makes it much easier to ignore.

Also, the fact that anyone can see who downdings and who updings acts as a check on the whole community. We would have far more stealth downdinging and bad behaviour if it were anon.

There's the occassional fight that breaks out -- "hey! Why did you downding me?" kind of thing--, but that's offset in my opinion by the utility of it not being anon. Also, it can be nice to see updings from people who almost never comment. It gives one a sense of being read outside of who might respond in a thread.

My .02.

208 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:29:04pm

re: #205 MandyManners

I knew I should've shaved my legs before I put on those tights.

That happens to me all of the time.

209 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:29:14pm

re: #187 albusteve

I would LOVE to go out and get 40lb tuna on lighter tackle...what a blast


Light tacktle... are you kidding... you use steel line, pull the sumbch close to the boat... get a net over the side and entagle the sucker, pull it aginst the stell hull ... then whamo with the 10 pound sledge against its head... no fighting.
Fighting is for tv fishermen. I fish to eat.

210 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:29:14pm

He lost control
began to swerve
When he checked his dings
and missed the curve

Burma shave

211 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:29:24pm

re: #207 iceweasel

Good cents, iceweasel.

212 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:29:26pm

not sure if I should jerk my trout or go ding 3 wood.

213 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:29:54pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

It helps me. I like being able to do that.

214 Grambo46  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:30:10pm

re: #194 Erik The Red

On the subject of steath dingers; is the a way to set a minimum number of comments before dinging is enabled? Encourage them to engage before dinging away.

Great idea, if Charles can write the code for it to happen. Say 50 or so comments.

Would pun threads count ???

/Ack!!

215 Wendya  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:30:38pm

re: #195 Locker

Or maybe cost a karma point to down ding someone. That may add more impact to a down ding.

Down dings for gratuitous insults or over the top remarks should be expected without comment. It would be nice if someone would explain why they disagree instead of just hitting the button in all other cases.

216 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:30:48pm

re: #201 Chip Designer

What is the problem with stealth dingers?

I guess that I classify as one, since I rarely comment. That is because I generally comment only if I have something to add to the thread. And with as many members as LGF has, isn't it best if most don't comment?

Lack of commenting doesn't mean that I don't read most of what has been said.

Isn't dinging a way for the "silent majority" to contribute?

Stealth Dingers have very low number of comments, and target a point of view or and individual, often they wait till a thread is stale.

217 kansas  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:31:09pm

I prefer free dinger reports dot com.

218 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:31:29pm

I agree with regard to dings being some folks way to make a comment. Since comments aren't anonymous I guess dings should fall under that same umbrella. Just another thought.

219 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:31:43pm

re: #216 jcm

Stealth Dingers have very low number of comments, and target a point of view or and individual, often they wait till a thread is stale.

I'd upding you but I think it is going to cost me!
///

220 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:31:46pm

re: #150 Locker

I think I lived entirely on Raman and Kraft Macaroni and Cheese with the occasional spaghetti sandwich thrown in. Nice flashback.

We should do a mail in...The most desperate weekend in College...I was so hungry that i went to the dented canned goods food store in Berkley and paid in pennies...Wink ..OK I'm teasing but really...Let's nominate some stories..
I have some funny stories...
/I'm holding off my halftime report...pathelic

221 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:32:00pm

re: #209 shanec99

Light tacktle... are you kidding... you use steel line, pull the sumbch close to the boat... get a net over the side and entagle the sucker, pull it aginst the stell hull ... then whamo with the 10 pound sledge against its head... no fighting.
Fighting is for tv fishermen. I fish to eat.

lighter tackle...we used to charter for steelhead and lake trout...I always used my own tackle, rather that the huge stuff they fished with...lighter the better for sport that is

222 Grambo46  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:32:30pm

re: #201 Chip Designer

What is the problem with stealth dingers?

I guess that I classify as one, since I rarely comment. That is because I generally comment only if I have something to add to the thread. And with as many members as LGF has, isn't it best if most don't comment?

Lack of commenting doesn't mean that I don't read most of what has been said.

Isn't dinging a way for the "silent majority" to contribute?

Disagree. I'm new, too. And, as you say, only post when I think I can inform or amuse. But I think dinging should be ... um... earned. I don't ding unless I post (fewer dings than posts).

223 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:32:42pm

The video was pretty cool.

224 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:32:51pm

what is the status of ding check legislation?

225 Lawrior  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:33:16pm

re: #220 HoosierHoops

One of my regular college dinners was ramen with 1/2 can of corn.

226 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:33:26pm

re: #202 3 wood

You in mutual funds or actual stocks?

Don't answer, I don't need the specifics
If you are in specific stocks, think about taking some money off the table and shifting to different sectors.

For example, (and again I will be real careful here to avoid touting specific stocks) one could possibly theoretically think about what materials one might possibly shift to in building cars to lighten them up and get better gas mileage.

Think real hard.


Geez, I feel like Rick Blaine in Casa Blanca asking the young man at the roulette wheel "Have you tried number 22 yet tonight?"

Been pouring money into a Natural resource fund this year... but not buying much aluminum... ALCOA ... pfft... some Brazilian and Russian erengy companies have made me some money... but I am still in the hole.

227 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:33:37pm

re: #224 spidly

what is the status of ding check legislation?

The Union members are revolting!

228 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:33:40pm

re: #208 karmic_inquisitor

That happens to me all of the time.

Sometimes the stubble helps hold up the tights.

229 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:33:41pm

re: #224 spidly

what is the status of ding check legislation?

There's going to be Ding-Panels who will deny dings to grandma.

230 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:33:45pm

need a Ding Patrol...hunt down stealth dingers and haul them before the High Council...make them explain themselves

231 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:33:56pm

re: #182 karmic_inquisitor

It should cost you 1 karma point to see who has updinged/downdinged your own post.

:D

232 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:34:05pm

I rarely downding, and then only when I think someone is using a thread to grind axes or insult a poster.

233 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:34:10pm

re: #220 HoosierHoops

We should do a mail in...The most desperate weekend in College...I was so hungry that i went to the dented canned goods food store in Berkley and paid in pennies...Wink ..OK I'm teasing but really...Let's nominate some stories..
I have some funny stories...
/I'm holding off my halftime report...pathelic

I was serious about Mighty Dog Turkey brand dog food. It actually is pretty good.

234 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:34:13pm

Cap and trade on dinging?

235 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:34:22pm

re: #227 VegasRick

The Union members are revolting!

The certainly are!

/;-P

236 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:34:30pm

re: #201 Chip Designer

Did you design Dale, too?

237 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:34:36pm

re: #212 spidly

not sure if I should jerk my trout or go ding 3 wood.

I think that's illegal in several states.

238 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:34:56pm

re: #227 VegasRick

The Union members are revolting!

They stink on ice!

239 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:35:00pm

New name for stealth-dingers: "Ding Beetles"!

240 Chip Designer  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:35:15pm

re: #236 MandyManners

I have made some squirrelly designs.

241 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:35:22pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?


Helps. I refuse to counter-downding someone. When a person is acting troll-like, though, I'd like to know who it is.

Good Evening, All.

242 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:35:22pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

Cap and trade on dinging?

We can sell Ding Offsets to trolls and lefties.

243 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:35:22pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

Cap and trade on dinging?

KEEP THE GUMMINT OFFA' MY DINGER.

244 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:35:24pm

re: #221 albusteve

lighter tackle...we used to charter for steelhead and lake trout...I always used my own tackle, rather that the huge stuff they fished with...lighter the better for sport that is


Not into sport... I don't believe in boasting about the one that got away.

245 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:35:32pm

re: #230 albusteve

need a Ding Patrol...hunt down stealth dingers and haul them before the High Council...make them explain themselves

GASP!

They wouldn't use the Comfy Chair would they?

246 LGoPs  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:35:59pm

re: #233 Truck Monkey

I was serious about Mighty Dog Turkey brand dog food. It actually is pretty good.

You lucky bastard. Dog food was for the rich folks. I had to eat dirt and mix it with fish food for nourishment...
/

247 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:36:05pm

re: #240 Chip Designer

I have made some squirrelly designs.

Didja' hafta' munkey around with many?

248 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:36:50pm

re: #227 VegasRick

The Union members are revolting!

What a bunch of ding-a-lings.

249 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:37:07pm

What's your first name?
Long

What's your last name ?
Dong

What's your middle name ?
Ding

250 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:37:15pm
One of my regular college dinners was ramen with 1/2 can of corn.

Fun fact. I ship a lot of Ramen Noodles. Several hundred truckloads yearly in fact. You can fit 60 pallets on a 53' trailer and total trailer weight on average is only about 15,000 pounds. A whole trailerload full of Ramen noodles is only worth about $5000 dollars.

251 [deleted]  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:37:22pm
252 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:37:29pm

re: #239 mikalm

New name for stealth-dingers: "Ding Beetles"!

Like that! And to the lady/gent above who dings but doesn't post much, we're mostly not, I don't think, talking about your sort. There's a weird category of person who says nothing, dings no one up, but will go down one of the threads--usually evolution, or having to do with some candidate they like and downding everyone who said anything contrary to their belief. This is annoying.

253 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:37:49pm

re: #243 MandyManners

KEEP THE GUMMINT OFFA' MY DINGER.

254 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:37:56pm

re: #246 LGoPs

You lucky bastard. Dog food was for the rich folks. I had to eat dirt and mix it with fish food for nourishment...
/

You had dirt!? We always had to eat sand - whiches!
/

255 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:38:07pm

re: #226 shanec99

Been pouring money into a Natural resource fund this year... but not buying much aluminum... ALCOA ... pfft... some Brazilian and Russian erengy companies have made me some money... but I am still in the hole.

Well, obviously we are going "green' to some extent. Think about companies that will get a lot of business out of that move, and it might not be the real obvious ones.


Also, think about who benefits when banks go belly up and have to dispose of assets at a fire sale.

256 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:38:20pm

re: #242 ArchangelMichael

We can sell Ding Offsets to trolls and lefties.

LGF Cap and Trade!

257 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:38:43pm

re: #246 LGoPs

You lucky bastard. Dog food was for the rich folks. I had to eat dirt and mix it with fish food for nourishment...
/

Fish food! Fish food was for posh folks from down London way! We mixed our dirt with muriatic acid and we LIKED it!

258 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:39:10pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

I think It's great...Why? Each post stands on it's own..Naked and truthful on the Internet..You can get congrads or get your ass kicked..There is no committee nor French dancing Judges...It is one lizard..one vote...i
Sorry about your luck...
Thanks Charles

259 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:39:17pm

re: #246 LGoPs

You lucky bastard. Dog food was for the rich folks. I had to eat dirt and mix it with fish food for nourishment...
/

AND YOU LIKED IT.
; )

260 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:39:43pm

re: #250 Truck Monkey

Fun fact. I ship a lot of Ramen Noodles. Several hundred truckloads yearly in fact. You can fit 60 pallets on a 53' trailer and total trailer weight on average is only about 15,000 pounds. A whole trailerload full of Ramen noodles is only worth about $5000 dollars.

As I always say: "The Chinese invented the three things necessary to any civilization -- noodles, paper, and gunpowder!"

261 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:40:26pm

re: #211 jaunte

Good cents, iceweasel.

Cheers, jaunte. :)

For what it's worth, if dinging were anonymous I doubt I'd still be here. It would have felt far more isolating if I couldn't 'see' who agreed with me. Again, this is from my perspective as someone with a minority viewpoint.

Also, we do have so many regged members who aren't sock puppets but who rarely comment or it takes them a while to work up the courage to leap into the fray. I think the karma system is a nice way for them to participate and kind of ease into the community.

(assuming they're not merely dealing out downdings, that is.)

262 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:40:35pm

re: #246 LGoPs

You lucky bastard. Dog food was for the rich folks. I had to eat dirt and mix it with fish food for nourishment...
/


we dreamed of dirt! I lived in under a tarpaulin with holes, worked 25 hours a day, and ate my own waste

263 LGoPs  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:40:42pm

re: #254 VegasRick

You had dirt!? We always had to eat sand - whiches!
/

I wasn't lucky enough to get sand. I had to grind down boulders and very big rocks to make sand to eat. With my teeth.

264 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:40:52pm

3-Wood, I know this is elementary but why are banks coninuing to fail? I thought they were all pumped up with Fed-Bucks. I'm sure the answer is complex, but I am not. Economics for Dummies version?

265 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:41:45pm

re: #257 SanFranciscoZionist

Fish food! Fish food was for posh folks from down London way! We mixed our dirt with muriatic acid and we LIKED it!

Muriatic acid? Lucky. I had to run around city blocks gulping polluted air just to keep my belly full of something. And I liked it!

266 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:41:48pm

Some time ago I started listing characteristics of Socialist Karma. A couple of people asked me to stop because we'd never do that here.
I did not keep the list. I remember some of it, though.

267 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:42:23pm
268 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:42:26pm

re: #255 3 wood

Well, obviously we are going "green' to some extent. Think about companies that will get a lot of business out of that move, and it might not be the real obvious ones.


Also, think about who benefits when banks go belly up and have to dispose of assets at a fire sale.

r
I guess werehouser, GE, Archer Daniels Midlands... anyone mining or processing lithium, anyone doing hydrogen fuel cells... but those technolgies are 5 - 10 years off... not in the short term

269 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:42:39pm

re: #207 iceweasel

IMO, it helps.

It's very useful to know if it's the same people who keep downdinging you. Makes it much easier to ignore.

Also, the fact that anyone can see who downdings and who updings acts as a check on the whole community. We would have far more stealth downdinging and bad behaviour if it were anon.

There's the occassional fight that breaks out -- "hey! Why did you downding me?" kind of thing--, but that's offset in my opinion by the utility of it not being anon. Also, it can be nice to see updings from people who almost never comment. It gives one a sense of being read outside of who might respond in a thread.

My .02.

Agreed - it ensures a certain degree of responsibility in using the feature. Those who abuse it only expose themselves in the end.

270 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:43:09pm

re: #262 spidly

we dreamed of dirt! I lived in under a tarpaulin with holes, worked 25 hours a day, and ate my own waste

You 'ad a tarpaulin? I would have given me left arm for a tarpaulin. We lived in a mud puddle.

271 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:43:10pm

re: #262 spidly

we dreamed of dirt! I lived in under a tarpaulin with holes, worked 25 hours a day, and ate my own waste

You must be a bacterium.

272 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:43:10pm

re: #256 Truck Monkey

LGF Cap and Trade!

If we made newbies post X number of comments before they could ding, that would be a cap. If you lost a karma point every time you checked the rating on comments to see user names, that would be a trade.

273 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:44:12pm

re: #264 The Shadow Do

3-Wood, I know this is elementary but why are banks coninuing to fail? I thought they were all pumped up with Fed-Bucks. I'm sure the answer is complex, but I am not. Economics for Dummies version?

If you cut off a mans' head quickly enough, he will stand for a few seconds; but he is still dead.

274 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:44:20pm

re: #249 Shug

What's your first name?
Long

What's your last name ?
Dong

What's your middle name ?
Ding

No more yanky my wanky.

275 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:44:46pm

re: #263 LGoPs

I wasn't lucky enough to get sand. I had to grind down boulders and very big rocks to make sand to eat. With my teeth.

Time to post another classic bit based on this kind of dialogue:

276 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:45:04pm

re: #273 swamprat

If you cut off a mans' head quickly enough, he will stand for a few seconds; but he is still dead.

I was just going to say that sometimes a plant gets it into its head (metaphorically speaking) to die, and not all the fertilizer in the world is going to help you save it.

277 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:45:25pm

re: #260 mikalm

As I always say: "The Chinese invented the three things necessary to any civilization -- noodles, paper, and gunpowder!"


Archie Bunker to Mike upon learning Marco Polo saw noodles in Kublai Khan's court before it was popular in Italy...
" I always knew it... an Italian will go 10,000 miles to get good take out food!"

278 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:45:46pm

re: #262 spidly

we dreamed of dirt! I lived in under a tarpaulin with holes, worked 25 hours a day, and ate my own waste

LOL!

279 LGoPs  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:45:48pm

re: #270 SanFranciscoZionist

You 'ad a tarpaulin? I would have given me left arm for a tarpaulin. We lived in a mud puddle.

Well at least you had something to drink. We had to lick the moisture off aphids to survive...

280 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:46:05pm

I changed the way open registration is indicated, by the way. There's no little '(open)' indicator now. If it's closed and you click the 'register' link, you get a Javascript alert with a polite error message.

281 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:46:05pm

re: #268 shanec99

r
I guess werehouser, GE, Archer Daniels Midlands... anyone mining or processing lithium, anyone doing hydrogen fuel cells... but those technolgies are 5 - 10 years off... not in the short term

Nah. Your're way off. Get into any company that makes heavy winter clothing. With Cap & Tax, no one will be able to afford heat.

282 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:46:11pm

I am interested to see why people register only to never or seldom post. Chip Designer. Why do you never post? I am sure that you could add a lot to any conversation that goes on here. You make me feel almost like a prolific poster by comparison. We have been around about the same amount of time.

283 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:46:13pm

re: #4 jcm

Scintillation

Is it legal? Moral? Healthy?

officially sponsored by the government?

284 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:46:14pm

Updings are fine.

Downdings should sound like the Gong Show.

Add the music and I'll downding every single one of you motherf***ers.

/sorry, the beer has taken over.

285 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:46:27pm

re: #264 The Shadow Do

Not all banks were given dollars by the Fed. Some banks had assets that were too risky and the Fed didn't give them anything. They had to go out and get capital by investors. Also, banks don't keep only cash. If depositors want their cash back, the bank has to cough it up. And their assets may be in loans or other assets that aren't necessarily liquid.

286 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:46:38pm

re: #254 VegasRick

You had dirt!? We always had to eat sand - whiches!
/

YOU GOT TO EAT?

287 LGoPs  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:47:12pm

re: #275 mikalm

Time to post another classic bit based on this kind of dialogue:

Is it Python? Youtube's blocked for me on this computer...

288 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:47:13pm

re: #253 jcm



Ya' beat me to it.

289 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:49:50pm

re: #269 Jimmah

Agreed - it ensures a certain degree of responsibility in using the feature. Those who abuse it only expose themselves in the end.

Precisely. Human nature being what it is, if it were anon we'd see a huge upsurge in downdings-- and, sad to say, probably a decline in updings.

As it is, it works as a form of self-policing for the community. Lacking anonymity means that the people who abuse it are always exposed. Ensures accountability.

Just look at the amount of abuse that already happens-- people going through a dead thread to downding others they don't like. If that were anon, you could easily expect that in a multiple of ten. At least.

It would be interesting to see if anyone's done a study on the comparative effects of anon karma vs. 'named' karma on web communities.

290 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:50:22pm

re: #282 Truck Monkey

I am interested to see why people register only to never or seldom post. Chip Designer. Why do you never post? I am sure that you could add a lot to any conversation that goes on here. You make me feel almost like a prolific poster by comparison. We have been around about the same amount of time.

Some of the "stealth dingers" are banned users who sneak back in with a different email address, but seem to be afraid of drawing attention. So they ding away, often in dead threads. Kinda pathetic. They get banned again when caught.

291 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:50:41pm

re: #264 The Shadow Do

3-Wood, I know this is elementary but why are banks coninuing to fail? I thought they were all pumped up with Fed-Bucks. I'm sure the answer is complex, but I am not. Economics for Dummies version?

From what I have gathered, the Fed bucks were not used to pay off toxic assets. They sat on the cash or played the stock market with it. (Causing the completely asinine rise from 7000ish to 9400ish for no reason on light volume.) I'm not claiming this to be 100% fact, but observations and things I'm hearing from people smarter than I am about it leads me to this conclusion.

There are still A LOT of bad mortgages floating around out there. Commercial real estate is on the precipice of a clusterfuck too. Idiots and shills/apologists of Wall Street or the Obama Administration in the mainstream media claiming the "Recession is Over" should be in the unemployment lines themselves.

292 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:50:50pm

re: #272 Sharmuta

If we made newbies post X number of comments before they could ding, that would be a cap. If you lost a karma point every time you checked the rating on comments to see user names, that would be a trade.

293 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:51:35pm

re: #286 MandyManners

YOU GOT TO EAT?

Only on the 7th of the month.
/

294 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:52:15pm

re: #281 Soona'

Nah. Your're way off. Get into any company that makes heavy winter clothing. With Cap & Tax, no one will be able to afford heat.


Well hmmm... why would I invest in someone who manufactures heavy woolen drawers? God knows I want less of those things manufactured ans sold not more.

295 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:52:45pm

dohre: #272 Sharmuta

If we made newbies post X number of comments before they could ding, that would be a cap. If you lost a karma point every time you checked the rating on comments to see user names, that would be a trade.

that doesn't address the underlying problem. We should limit thread length. Consuming all this storage and bandwith is unsustainable.

296 Flyers1974  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:53:41pm

re: #158 Charles

Question: do you think it hurts or helps that people can click the rating number on their comment and see who dinged them up or down?

I agree with Ice Weasel's statement that being able to see discourages bad behavior.

297 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:53:41pm

re: #287 LGoPs

Yes, it's the "Four Yorkshiremen" (AKA "The Self-Made Men") sketch, which was originally done on an earlier UK comedy show. I first heard it on tape in high school, and can still remember nearly busting a gut laughing.

298 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:53:42pm

re: #295 spidly

doh


that doesn't address the underlying problem. We should limit thread length. Consuming all this storage and bandwith is unsustainable.

Death panels?
///

299 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:54:17pm

re: #280 Charles

I changed the way open registration is indicated, by the way. There's no little '(open)' indicator now. If it's closed and you click the 'register' link, you get a Javascript alert with a polite error message.

And the door is open. Mind the shells Lizards. Newbies say hi and buy us some drinks. Scotch on the rocks for me.:)

300 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:54:40pm

re: #298 VegasRick

Hey, what was the temp out there today ?
Just curious.

301 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:54:54pm

re: #299 Erik The Red

And the door is open. Mind the shells Lizards. Newbies say hi and buy us some drinks. Scotch on the rocks for me.:)

Hey African man... how are you?

302 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:55:02pm

re: #282 Truck Monkey

I am interested to see why people register only to never or seldom post. Chip Designer. Why do you never post? I am sure that you could add a lot to any conversation that goes on here. You make me feel almost like a prolific poster by comparison. We have been around about the same amount of time.

As a person who isn't always so liked in these parts, it can be tough to have a discussion with people calling you names. It can be a tough room.

303 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:55:04pm

re: #295 spidly

I thought we were already green.

304 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:55:19pm

re: #279 LGoPs

Well at least you had something to drink. We had to lick the moisture off aphids to survive...

Well, it was a mud puddle in me granddad's day, so we called it a mud puddle, but it was really just a mucky bit of ground. In the middle of an artillery range! Aye, there was three hundred and six of us kids, growing up in the muck on an artillery range...

305 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:55:43pm

Exactly how many cousins can I put on "ignore" for Facebook before I am officially a bad person?

Do they count if they are still teenagers? What if they are technically adults, but missed the exit ramp somehow?

306 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:55:46pm

re: #300 SasquatchOnSteroids

Hey, what was the temp out there today ?
Just curious.

Great! Under 100 most of the week. Coolest summer I can remember.

307 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:56:13pm

re: #301 shanec99

Hey African man... how are you?

Hey shane99. I am Stateside now. Florida based. :)

308 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:56:17pm

re: #298 VegasRick

Death panels?
///

what we should do is find a failing ding program and strip it of its resources to fund a new one!

309 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:56:21pm

re: #287 LGoPs

Is it Python? Youtube's blocked for me on this computer...

Yep, the Four Yorkshiremen.

310 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:56:24pm

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

311 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:56:50pm

re: #304 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, it was a mud puddle in me granddad's day, so we called it a mud puddle, but it was really just a mucky bit of ground. In the middle of an artillery range! Aye, there was three hundred and six of us kids, growing up in the muck on an artillery range...

Fireworks! Swanky.

312 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:57:05pm

re: #289 iceweasel

Precisely. Human nature being what it is, if it were anon we'd see a huge upsurge in downdings-- and, sad to say, probably a decline in updings.

As it is, it works as a form of self-policing for the community. Lacking anonymity means that the people who abuse it are always exposed. Ensures accountability.

Just look at the amount of abuse that already happens-- people going through a dead thread to downding others they don't like. If that were anon, you could easily expect that in a multiple of ten. At least.

It would be interesting to see if anyone's done a study on the comparative effects of anon karma vs. 'named' karma on web communities.

Maybe we could comment anonymously: that way I could avoid the tremendous feeling of of shame and regret I sometimes feel when I find myself updinging a person with whom I find little to agree with, or even like. Someone such as yourself, for instance.

313 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:57:17pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

Sorry bro. That sucks.

314 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:57:23pm

re: #307 Erik The Red

Hey shane99. I am Stateside now. Florida based. :)


I am home now too... In Norfolk, VA.

315 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:57:25pm

re: #306 VegasRick

Great! Under 100 most of the week. Coolest summer I can remember.

Nice. thx

316 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:57:49pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

Hey JIV be strong.

317 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:57:53pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

Condolences to you.

318 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:58:18pm

re: #305 EmmmieG

Exactly how many cousins can I put on "ignore" for Facebook before I am officially a bad person?

Do they count if they are still teenagers? What if they are technically adults, but missed the exit ramp somehow?

I don't know Facebook. Do they know they're being ignored?

319 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:58:21pm

re: #264 The Shadow Do

3-Wood, I know this is elementary but why are banks coninuing to fail? I thought they were all pumped up with Fed-Bucks. I'm sure the answer is complex, but I am not. Economics for Dummies version?

LGF locked up for me for a few minutes there. sorry for the delay.

Very good question, and please don't hesitate to ask.

First a lot of people are still being thrown out of work and defaulting on loans. Second, it takes a while after a loan goes on the "nonperforming" list before it is considered in default,s o there are time lags. Third, it can take a while for banks to check on the value of collateral and that adds time to the equation.

Simple answer is, the economy is still really screwed up, despite what the Obama worshippers in the MSM will try to spin you, and we are a long way from being out of the woods yet.

320 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:58:31pm

I like to see who's dinging down spinoff links and comment threads. It allows me to find out what some stealth dingers don't like. That way when they ding something in what I call "pattern dinging" I can post more of the same. Yes, it's true, I'm evil.

321 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:58:34pm

re: #313 VegasRick

Hard road, that.

322 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:58:52pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Sorry to hear that, JIV.
Darn shame.

323 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:59:13pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Sorry, Jim. May your beloved pooch cross the Rainbow Bridge with grace and love.

324 Chip Designer  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:59:20pm

re: #282 Truck Monkey

I have several "hot" areas which interest me, and which I may post in. Most of the time it is easier to read than write. Besides that, I do too much writing at work.

I find it an ironic curse of life in that I, who majored in engineering, spend most of my day writing, while the English majors are all assembling computers over at Dell.

325 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:59:27pm

re: #321 swamprat

Hard road, that.

Yep.

326 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:59:29pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

I am so sorry. Bless her. That's hard.

327 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:59:47pm

re: #307 Erik The Red

Hey shane99. I am Stateside now. Florida based. :)


East Africa beat the hell outa this ole Sailor... where I was in East Africa people lived on less than $2 a day... its good to be home... real poverty puts our current recession into focus.

328 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 6:59:52pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

Sorry to hear that friend.

329 solomonpanting  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:09pm

re: #151 American Sabra

Cry racism? I must have missed that part. The article is pretty funny.

GAAA!
That's what I get for committing two sins:
1. Read what I type
2. Don't post and run

It should have said:

Good thing Dylan didn't cry racism.

330 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:17pm

re: #316 Erik The Red

The upside is seeing how sensitive, wise and strong my fourteen year old daughters are.

331 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:18pm

re: #303 Sharmuta

I thought we were already green.

You are blue.
/Removes "Master of the Obvious Deduction" Hat

332 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:26pm

re: #318 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know Facebook. Do they know they're being ignored?

No...at least I think not. I'm just getting tired of the minute-by-minute on the latest potty training, which is way better than the incoherent string of slang from her younger brother.

I actually like talking to these people in person.

333 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:28pm

More trouble at the Lazy B, just up the road a piece.

First, first flight has slipped almost 2 years, and is on an indefinite hold till the wing root stress issues are fixed.

Now...

Boeing stops work on 787 fuselages made in Italy to fix wrinkled skin

Boeing's technical problems with the 787 Dreamliner go beyond the upper wing join issue publicly acknowledged by the company.

Engineers have discovered wrinkles in the fuselage skin just behind the wing that will require repair work on all the completed fuselage barrels.

Boeing minimized the flaw as "microscopic wrinkles in the skin plies" in just two locations near a fuselage door and said the problem can be fixed with "a simple patch."

334 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:45pm

re: #327 shanec99

East Africa beat the hell outa this ole Sailor... where I was in East Africa people lived on less than $2 a day... its good to be home... real poverty puts our current recession into focus.

Great point!

335 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:47pm

It may be good for Charles to be able to see who is dinging, but I think I'm going to go with anonymous dinging. As much as I like reading who dinged and how (mine and others), people may feel they're being judged on whether they up or down ding and may not be as honest as they would otherwise. And really, who wants to be judged by their ding anyway.

336 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:57pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

That is so sad. My condolences.

337 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:00:59pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

Sorry to hear that.

338 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:01:08pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

Had to do that about a month ago. It sucks. It really does. My sympathies.

339 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:01:42pm

re: #327 shanec99

East Africa beat the hell outa this ole Sailor... where I was in East Africa people lived on less than $2 a day... its good to be home... real poverty puts our current recession into focus.

Damn right it does. +1000 dings if I had them:)

340 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:01:46pm

re: #312 swamprat

Maybe we could comment anonymously: that way I could avoid the tremendous feeling of of shame and regret I sometimes feel when I find myself updinging a person with whom I find little to agree with, or even like. Someone such as yourself, for instance.

See, I think it's pretty odd for you to decide you 'don't like' someone you don't even know.

Ah well. One of the uses of the internet is for people to act out their aggression, unfortunately.

Updinged you anyway. People will say that we're in love.

341 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:02:15pm

re: #332 EmmmieG

No...at least I think not. I'm just getting tired of the minute-by-minute on the latest potty training, which is way better than the incoherent string of slang from her younger brother.

I actually like talking to these people in person.

I don't think you're under any obligation then. It's like a Christmas letter that never ends. You don't actually have to read it.

342 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:02:24pm

re: #330 Jim in Virginia

The upside is seeing how sensitive, wise and strong my fourteen year old daughters are.

That is wonderful. I have twin boys 13 years old and they are my strenght. Stay strong friend and hold those girls tight.

343 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:02:27pm

re: #308 spidly

what we should do is find a failing ding program and strip it of its resources to fund a new one!

Failing programs never die. They are merely funded with Tax increases forever.
/Opens copy of Constitution

344 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:02:47pm

Dings already were anonymous for awhile. I think history speaks for itself.

345 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:02:56pm

re: #319 3 wood

I keep getting the continuously spinning wheel of doom too.

346 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:03:16pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Condolences for your loss,

347 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:03:17pm

I'm thinking of periods like when we were having some of the VB debates etc. I think it's healthy to see who's leaning which way.

348 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:03:30pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

I add my condolences.

349 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:03:49pm

re: #345 Soona'

I keep getting the continuously spinning wheel of doom too.

You computer clock must be set on Dec. 21, 2012...

;-P

350 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:03:57pm
351 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:03:57pm

re: #324 Chip Designer


I find it an ironic curse of life in that I, who majored in engineering, spend most of my day writing, while the English majors are all assembling computers over at Dell.


I'm an engineer but at the point where I rarely design, and write little except email. Mostly, I manage documents.

352 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:04:02pm

re: #329 solomonpanting

GAAA!
That's what I get for committing two sins:
1. Read what I type
2. Don't post and run

It should have said:

Good thing Dylan didn't cry racism.

rofl Ohhh

353 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:04:03pm

Anybody else catch "Lock and Load" with R. Lee Ermy tonight?
Not only did you get to see many pistols, you got to see the Glock sharpshooter, a woman, shoot. Guns and girls. What could be better?

(The show, on History, gets re-run a few times during the week)

354 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:04:16pm

re: #340 iceweasel

People will say that we're in love.

TMI

355 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:04:45pm

re: #329 solomonpanting

GAAA!
That's what I get for committing two sins:
1. Read what I type
2. Don't post and run

It should have said:

Good thing Dylan didn't cry racism.

it's funny cuz it's real lol

356 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:04:47pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

My condolences as well.

357 solomonpanting  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:05:10pm

re: #344 Sharmuta

Dings already were anonymous for awhile. I think history speaks for itself.

Unfortunately, historywreckedme.

358 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:05:26pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Sorry man. Regards to the family.

359 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:05:50pm

Gotta go folks, later.

360 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:05:57pm

re: #349 jcm

You computer clock must be set on Dec. 21, 2012...

;-P

So that's why my home page is in Mayan. Hmmm.

361 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:05:59pm

Oh yeah.

That king salmon is done, and it's rockin'. Needed to bake for about 6 minutes more at 350, probably because of thickness.

362 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:06:26pm

re: #359 VegasRick

Gotta go folks, later.

Later VR. :)

363 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:06:51pm

re: #305 EmmmieG

Exactly how many cousins can I put on "ignore" for Facebook before I am officially a bad person?

Do they count if they are still teenagers? What if they are technically adults, but missed the exit ramp somehow?

lol

The answer is zero :)
I'm sorry lol

364 VegasRick  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:06:54pm

re: #362 Erik The Red

Later VR. :)

Later

365 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:07:10pm

re: #353 Kosh's Shadow

Anybody else catch "Lock and Load" with R. Lee Ermy tonight?
Not only did you get to see many pistols, you got to see the Glock sharpshooter, a woman, shoot. Guns and girls. What could be better?

(The show, on History, gets re-run a few times during the week)

no, but I'll be looking for the old Gunny...R. Lee is an old favorite down at the bunkhouse here...thanks for the heads up

366 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:07:20pm

re: #332 EmmmieG

Well you can turn off the news feed stuff and still keep them as friends. They can't tell if you have their feed off.

367 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:07:21pm

Got knocked off and had to reboot.

368 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:01pm

re: #367 MandyManners

Got knocked off and had to reboot.

Twice in the last 20 minutes here :(

369 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:02pm

Getting back to the video:
You know, I'd like to get some hosiery like that for my Wife. Maybe a pair for Army Wife too, to go with her boots.
Remember those boots?

370 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:05pm

re: #293 VegasRick

Only on the 7th of the month.
/

YOU HAD A CALENDAR?

371 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:30pm

re: #319 3 wood

LGF locked up for me for a few minutes there. sorry for the delay.

Very good question, and please don't hesitate to ask.

First a lot of people are still being thrown out of work and defaulting on loans. Second, it takes a while after a loan goes on the "nonperforming" list before it is considered in default,s o there are time lags. Third, it can take a while for banks to check on the value of collateral and that adds time to the equation.

Simple answer is, the economy is still really screwed up, despite what the Obama worshippers in the MSM will try to spin you, and we are a long way from being out of the woods yet.

Consistent with all the evidence around me. Thank you. I see nothing but spin on what is clearly ugly and getting uglier.

The Co. I work for, a big'un, is presently spinning shut downs and layoffs as a growth opportunity. This is politics on the corporate scale. A sort of surrender to the reality of it all.

I am a Dummie, but I am not to be fooled by the current claims that we have turned the corner. I suspect this society will feel the pain from this present mess long past my expiration date.

Thanks, and I too had a problem getting back into the site - the spinning wheel and all that ...

372 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:39pm

re: #370 MandyManners

YOU HAD A CALENDAR?

We couldn't afford December.

373 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:50pm

NYT backs off of WashTimes charge

John Solomon, executive editor of The Washington Times, wrote in a staff-wide e-mail on Friday that The New York Times has backed off a charge that the Washington paper has been “decidedly opposed” to President Barack Obama.

“I'm glad to report that the New York Times has formally called to apologize,” Solomon wrote.

POLITICO has asked The New York Times for a comment and will add it when it arrives.

The New York paper wrote Friday in a front-page article about the origin of the “death panel” rumor about President Barack Obama’s health plan: “The specter of government-sponsored, forced euthanasia was raised as early as Nov. 23, just weeks after the election and long before any legislation had been drafted, by an outlet decidedly opposed to Mr. Obama, The Washington Times.”

Solomon e-mailed his staff late this morning: “By now many of you know that The New York Times wrongly and unfairly besmirched your good reputation in a front-page story this morning about health care. I want you to know that we've told the Times and … the rest of the media world that we found it wrong, inaccurate, irresponsible and insulting for the New York Times to brand an entire newspaper as ‘decidedly opposed’ to President Obama because of the voice of its editorial pages. Nothing can be further from the truth when it comes to the hard work of performance of our newsroom. Our news pages have no agenda except to accurately and fairly cover the news, including that made by the administration.”

374 mikeymom  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:50pm

so sorry to here of jims dog--my mikey the cat will be 15 next week-but-- hey guys the drinks are on you!! I"M 60 today!! whoo-hoo-sorta-

375 shanec99  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:54pm

Later yall... its good to stop by once in a while... now that I am home I have other distractions, but LGF will always be a place where I visit to catch up on current affairs.

376 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:08:58pm

re: #365 albusteve

no, but I'll be looking for the old Gunny...R. Lee is an old favorite down at the bunkhouse here...thanks for the heads up

They're re-running last week's episode now, on tanks.

377 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:09:03pm

re: #361 Charles

Oh yeah.

That king salmon is done, and it's rockin'. Needed to bake for about 6 minutes more at 350, probably because of thickness.

Party at The Big Lizard's! :-)

378 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:09:40pm

Ok time to make the ziti. Peace all.

379 Vinnieg  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:09:42pm

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Replace 'wealth' with 'more government'?

380 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:09:43pm

re: #319 3 wood

LGF locked up for me for a few minutes there. sorry for the delay.

Same here.

381 LGoPs  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:09:48pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

Not an original thought but I just had to say that hounds are among the noblest of creatures. Unconditionally loving, loyal, totally devoid of guile or deceit. I like to imagine that they'll be in the afterlife waiting for us.
My condolences.

382 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:10:02pm

re: #350 Shug

2012 Obama campaign ad already in the works

It has to be a joke, right?
(Taking very long time to open).
%P%Lizards, thanks so much for the condolences. Heading to bed. Play safe y'all.

383 Kronocide  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:10:16pm

Aloha Honcos. The worse business gets the more I work my ass off (Puzzled?). I'm just going to steal some fruit cups off the table and sit in the corner and work --->

384 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:10:35pm

re: #289 iceweasel

Precisely. Human nature being what it is, if it were anon we'd see a huge upsurge in downdings-- and, sad to say, probably a decline in updings.

As it is, it works as a form of self-policing for the community. Lacking anonymity means that the people who abuse it are always exposed. Ensures accountability.

Just look at the amount of abuse that already happens-- people going through a dead thread to downding others they don't like. If that were anon, you could easily expect that in a multiple of ten. At least.

It would be interesting to see if anyone's done a study on the comparative effects of anon karma vs. 'named' karma on web communities.

I think you're right. (and I have to learn to read faster)

385 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:10:47pm

re: #361 Charles

Oh yeah.

That king salmon is done, and it's rockin'. Needed to bake for about 6 minutes more at 350, probably because of thickness.

Did you send the recipe to Reine for the LGF cookbook? (Or get it from the previous cookbook?)

386 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:10:52pm

re: #376 Kosh's Shadow

They're re-running last week's episode now, on tanks.

TANKS!...where my switcher thing?

387 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:11:00pm

re: #367 MandyManners

Got knocked off and had to reboot.

Better that than getting knocked...um, never mind.
/around? By guys wearing boots??

388 solomonpanting  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:11:04pm

re: #379 Vinnieg

Replace 'wealth' with 'more government'?

That is the intent, is it not?
;)

389 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:11:06pm

re: #289 iceweasel

Precisely. Human nature being what it is, if it were anon we'd see a huge upsurge in downdings-- and, sad to say, probably a decline in updings.

As it is, it works as a form of self-policing for the community. Lacking anonymity means that the people who abuse it are always exposed. Ensures accountability.

Just look at the amount of abuse that already happens-- people going through a dead thread to downding others they don't like. If that were anon, you could easily expect that in a multiple of ten. At least.

It would be interesting to see if anyone's done a study on the comparative effects of anon karma vs. 'named' karma on web communities.

Yes. Not to mention people who downing you for saying hello or posting music videos on a music thread. I pulled one poster up - "unrealizedviewpoint" - last week for doing that to me. After I told him he was only exposing his own pettiness he semi-apologised and said he'd go back and fix it, which I now notice he hasn't actually done. I think it's bizarre that anyone would want to portray themselves in such a bad light. Definitely not a smart move.

I think I'd expect to see greater polarisation in sites that operate with anonymous karma, but It would definitely be interesting to research.

390 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:11:06pm

something got me all yacked out here too. not the rest of the interweb. I think we might be in the beginnings of a ding crisis.

we should borrow dings from the chinese to promote dinging now, and find someone to absorb all the down-dings on the market.

391 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:11:27pm

re: #366 Locker

Well you can turn off the news feed stuff and still keep them as friends. They can't tell if you have their feed off.

I've had to do that with several people who were clogging my newsfeed with moonbat/wingnut nonsense, and one professional-atheist type who went too far with the all-believers-are-insane-idiots rhetoric.

392 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:11:27pm

I don't know if LGF locked up or not, I had to pop out a bit and change my daughter's tire. (Of course she can change a tire, but she didn't want to get her work clothes dirty says she...)

393 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:11:29pm

re: #375 shanec99

Later yall... its good to stop by once in a while... now that I am home I have other distractions, but LGF will always be a place where I visit to catch up on current affairs.

Later shane99. Keep well.

394 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:11:53pm

A Wiener Dog Rally was held on Thursday at Seattle Center. The fastest two dachshunds go on to compete at the Wiener Dog Races at the Emerald Downs horse track in Auburn on Friday.

395 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:12:09pm

re: #361 Charles

Oh yeah.

That king salmon is done, and it's rockin'. Needed to bake for about 6 minutes more at 350, probably because of thickness.

Dickhead and I did an awesome salmon when we were dating. I made a cucumber-mint salsa that I can *still* taste on my mind's tongue.

396 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:13:04pm

re: #376 Kosh's Shadow

They're re-running last week's episode now, on tanks.

You're welcome!
channelling Groucho Marx

397 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:13:04pm

re: #386 albusteve

TANKS!...where my switcher thing?

That was a great episode. I like seeing the interiors of tanks. This time, you get to see the tanks shooting, sometimes from the interior as well as exterior.

398 LGoPs  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:13:07pm

Later lizards

399 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:13:21pm

re: #374 mikeymom
You don't look a day over 38, honey.
And remember, 60 is the new 50.

400 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:13:45pm

re: #398 LGoPs

Later lizards

Sleep well.

401 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:14:02pm

Your daily Catonian limericks, twin ditties on the subject of oligarchy vs. the mob:

An unaccountable few
Tell the rest of us how to do.
Unchosen - our betters -
They make us all debtors.
Don't you wish you could vote them out, too?

But:

The dreck-fed, teevee-fuddled many
Will sell you their votes for a twenny.
With suckers this dense
What need to make sense?
Go ahead! Buy a pound for a penny.

I, Cato, certify that no animals, plants, old-growth forests, luxury condos, women, minorities, males, majorities, corporations, politicians, politicians' wives, children, au pairs, limousines, offshore bank accounts, mistresses, call girls or pages were physically harmed in the making of this satire.

402 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:14:32pm

re: #395 MandyManners

Dickhead and I did an awesome salmon when we were dating. I made a cucumber-mint salsa that I can *still* taste on my mind's tongue.

There is nothing better than a home made Dill sauce with Fish...Yummy..

403 mikeymom  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:14:38pm

re: #399 Jim in Virginia

well gee thanks!! been bummed out all day. and sooo sorry about the dog-that sucks

404 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:14:40pm

Say, how about a Friday night private thread? speaking of anon and all that.

405 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:15:03pm

re: #340 iceweasel

The Cubans I've seen seem to regard throwing dishes as a form of foreplay.
I'm not a big fan of politics that list to port.

406 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:15:31pm

re: #371 The Shadow Do

My business is doing well, I just hired two more people. However, it's a sign that a lot of big corporate marketing budgets are getting squeezed and they're looking for efficiencies. We're in the south, and bargain-priced in comparison to our east and west coast competition.

407 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:16:01pm

When did the little comment scroll button on the right side change? I missed it

408 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:16:15pm

Is it just me, or does 0bama seem to be going out of his way to stump for his socialized healthcare plan in red states?

Blue enclaves in red states, mind you...

409 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:16:43pm

re: #394 jcm

I'll see your Wiener Dog Rally, and raise you a Pug Sunday:

410 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:16:45pm

hrmmm... maybe that's cause I d/l'ed the new version of firefox?

411 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:16:58pm

re: #401 Cato the Elder

I distinctly noticed you left out: Gazan roosters, aliens from Area 51, and Cloud Elders.

Explain, please.

412 solomonpanting  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:17:27pm

THE SHOEBOX.

A man and woman had been married for more than 60 years.
They had shared everything. They had talked about everything.
They had kept no secrets from each other except that the little
old woman had a shoe box in the top of her closet that she had
cautioned her husband never to open or ask her about.

For all of these years, he had never thought about the box, but
one day the little old woman got very sick and the doctor said
she would not recover.
In trying to sort out their affairs, the little old man took
down the shoe box and took it to his wife's bedside.
She agreed that it was time that he should know what was
in the box. When he opened it, he found two crocheted dolls
and a stack of money totaling $95,000.
He asked her about the contents. 'When we were to be married,'
she said, ' my grandmother told me the secret of a happy marriage
was to never argue. She told me that if I ever got angry with you,
I should just keep quiet and crochet a doll.'
The little old man was so moved; he had to fight back tears. Only two
precious dolls were in the box.. She had only been angry with him two
times in all those years of living and loving. He almost burst with
happiness.
'Honey,' he said, 'that explains the doll, but what about all of this money?
Where did it come from?'
'Oh,' she said, 'that's the money I made from selling the dolls.'

413 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:17:37pm

I have my permanent GAZE/ do not reply or read list. I will rarely ding that poster.

414 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:17:40pm

re: #405 swamprat

The Cubans I've seen seem to regard throwing dishes as a form of foreplay.


I thought it was rythmic clapping, you know, like they did for Sonya Sotomayor at the White House this week...
"Oh, Sonya, you're going to be great!" -BHO

415 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:17:40pm

Nice game today by the Pirates, got edged out by the Cubs 17 - 2.

The Pirates starter Morton gave up 10 earned runs in one inning.

Ouch.

416 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:17:46pm

re: #405 swamprat

The Cubans I've seen seem to regard throwing dishes as a form of foreplay.
I'm not a big fan of politics that list to port.

I thought that was the Greeks. Opa!!!

417 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:17:47pm

re: #405 swamprat

The Cubans I've seen seem to regard throwing dishes as a form of foreplay.
I'm not a big fan of politics that list to port.

Cubans?

If you don't like port you're missing out on the Stilton as well. :)

418 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:17:47pm
419 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:18:07pm

re: #413 Erik The Red

I have my permanent GAZE/ do not reply or read list. I will rarely ding that poster.

Who Erik?

420 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:18:36pm

re: #387 NelsFree

Better that than getting knocked...um, never mind.
/around? By guys wearing boots??

Better be steel-toed ones.

421 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:18:56pm

re: #397 Kosh's Shadow

That was a great episode. I like seeing the interiors of tanks. This time, you get to see the tanks shooting, sometimes from the interior as well as exterior.

you know I often think about what I could have if I was the King...planes, tanks, boats...I always wanted my own mission ready B-25...roaring down low and wacking stuff...ever think about that?

422 3 wood  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:19:06pm

Good night all.

423 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:19:34pm

I took some books I didn't want anymore to a used book shop I've done a little buying and selling with in the past, and he told me the saddest thing.

He said, "I'd just keep these if I were you. I can't sell these and could only give you a few bucks. Nobody wants to learn things these days."

424 mikeymom  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:19:39pm

hey guys!!! i said earlier that you are buying the drinks for my 60th!! how about a basil, mandy???

425 Vinnieg  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:19:45pm

Reagan speaking against socialized medicine, 1961!

426 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:20:00pm

re: #415 3 wood

Nice game today by the Pirates, got edged out by the Cubs 17 - 2.

The Pirates starter Morton gave up 10 earned runs in one inning.

Ouch.

The Cubs were ready to beat up on anyone today. They had a rough week.

427 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:20:09pm

re: #419 HoosierHoops

Who Erik?

Haha. That would be telling. OK, one is a car re-builder.

428 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:20:35pm

re: #415 3 wood

Nice game today by the Pirates, got edged out by the Cubs 17 - 2.

The Pirates starter Morton gave up 10 earned runs in one inning.

Ouch.

That's gonna hurt the ERA.

429 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:20:37pm

re: #421 albusteve

you know I often think about what I could have if I was the King...planes, tanks, boats...I always wanted my own mission ready B-25...roaring down low and wacking stuff...ever think about that?

An -H model I presume?

430 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:21:12pm

re: #402 HoosierHoops

There is nothing better than a home made Dill sauce with Fish...Yummy..

No dill. Cucumber and mint. With red onion. Something else I cannot recall but, no dill.

Or, maybe a cup of dill. It was about 10 years ago.

431 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:21:22pm

re: #411 EmmmieG

I distinctly noticed you left out: Gazan roosters, aliens from Area 51, and Cloud Elders.

Explain, please.

All of them have done something horrible to me in the past. I am planning to invite them all on a Caribbean cruise (the old "you've won a cruise" ruse) and exact terrible vengeance from them.

432 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:21:35pm

re: #389 Jimmah

It's a good thing to be able to identify people who downding for no reason so they can be called on it.

Making it anonymous just adds a layer of protection to trolls, stealth downdingers, and otherwise fucktards who upon realizing they are anonymous, take it as carte blanche to be assholes with no consequences.

433 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:21:57pm

re: #422 3 wood

Good night all.

Sweet dreams!

434 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:22:08pm

re: #421 albusteve

you know I often think about what I could have if I was the King...planes, tanks, boats...I always wanted my own mission ready B-25...roaring down low and wacking stuff...ever think about that?

Here you go, Your Royal Highness!

435 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:22:27pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

I took some books I didn't want anymore to a used book shop I've done a little buying and selling with in the past, and he told me the saddest thing.

He said, "I'd just keep these if I were you. I can't sell these and could only give you a few bucks. Nobody wants to learn things these days."

Pity his business is down, but it's probably the way of the intertubes more than not wanting to learn. In fact, there's tons of free learning right in your living room.

But it's a sad thing.

436 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:22:38pm

re: #406 jaunte

My business is doing well, I just hired two more people. However, it's a sign that a lot of big corporate marketing budgets are getting squeezed and they're looking for efficiencies. We're in the south, and bargain-priced in comparison to our east and west coast competition.

I congratulate you! You are doing at least one something right. And you are correct, big corporate is looking for efficiencies, as well they should. The pain of economic cycles is important, it becomes malevolent however when big government chooses to "not waste an opportunity" to make it all better.

I am also in the South. That means values are flat and not in a catastrophic downslide - at least not yet. I almost accepted a transfer to Las Vegas. Thank God I did not.

437 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:22:44pm

re: #422 3 wood

Good night all.

Later 3 wood.

438 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:22:44pm

re: #430 MandyManners

No dill. Cucumber and mint. With red onion. Something else I cannot recall but, no dill.

Or, maybe a cup of dill. It was about 10 years ago.

For a summer picnic I did a chilled poached salmon with yogurt dill sauce.

439 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:22:53pm

re: #429 jcm

An -H model I presume?

baaad ass...got himself a canon...whenever I see those at the museum or air show I go nuts...the Air Zoo in Kalamazoo has one, sharks mouth and all...lotsa guns

440 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:23:07pm

Okay, well, using LGF to hide from the unpleasant real-world duties I face is no longer working. See you all later. Save my place on the lizard sunning rock.

441 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:23:21pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

I took some books I didn't want anymore to a used book shop I've done a little buying and selling with in the past, and he told me the saddest thing.

He said, "I'd just keep these if I were you. I can't sell these and could only give you a few bucks. Nobody wants to learn things these days."

I suspect it's more because the market is super-saturated, especially now in this recession. I've been dealing books online for over a decade, and every year the margins are thinner, the demand is lower, and the competition is greater.

442 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:23:32pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

I took some books I didn't want anymore to a used book shop I've done a little buying and selling with in the past, and he told me the saddest thing.

He said, "I'd just keep these if I were you. I can't sell these and could only give you a few bucks. Nobody wants to learn things these days."

Was that in Florida?

443 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:23:53pm

re: #425 Vinnieg

Reagan speaking against socialized medicine, 1961!

The Progressives/Socialists/Democrats will never give up in their goals.

444 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:24:11pm

re: #432 ArchangelMichael

It's a good thing to be able to identify people who downding for no reason so they can be called on it.

Making it anonymous just adds a layer of protection to trolls, stealth downdingers, and otherwise fucktards who upon realizing they are anonymous, take it as carte blanche to be assholes with no consequences.

Brilliant - that link goes straight into my favourites.

445 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:24:16pm

re: #439 albusteve

baaad ass...got himself a canon...whenever I see those at the museum or air show I go nuts...the Air Zoo in Kalamazoo has one, sharks mouth and all...lotsa guns

6 .50s and 75mm cannon! Baaad ass indeed!

446 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:24:19pm

re: #310 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards. Pretty bummed- out here. We just took our 14 year old pound puppy to the vet for the last time. Wife, the daughters and I all agreed it was time, but it still sucks.
RIP Sweet Polly Purebred.

Nothing is worse than that drive to the vet. Been there. I grieve with you, my man.

447 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:24:27pm
448 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:24:30pm

re: #442 Cato the Elder

Haha. Sent you a friends request.

Cool, you are!

449 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:25:24pm

re: #442 Cato the Elder

Was that in Florida?

heh...

450 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:26:18pm

Nude drunk loses way in hotel.

And we all know how painful that can be.

451 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:26:50pm

re: #446 austin_blue

Nothing is worse than that drive to the vet. Been there. I grieve with you, my man.

I used to live across the street from a vet's office, and would often see people of all ages and sexes emerging from from it in tears.

452 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:26:51pm

re: #439 albusteve

baaad ass...got himself a canon...whenever I see those at the museum or air show I go nuts...the Air Zoo in Kalamazoo has one, sharks mouth and all...lotsa guns

As a Catholic, I have always dreamed of having my very own canon. These days you're lucky to get a sexton.

453 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:27:14pm

re: #450 Charles

Nude drunk loses way in hotel.

And we all know how painful that can be.

Ed's down under?

454 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:27:26pm

re: #450 Charles

Nude drunk loses way in hotel.

And we all know how painful that can be.

I don't remember them giving me a robe...

455 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:27:30pm

re: #434 NelsFree

Here you go, Your Royal Highness!


hey!...cool...ammo must be cheap too!

456 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:27:48pm

re: #430 MandyManners

No dill. Cucumber and mint. With red onion. Something else I cannot recall but, no dill.

Or, maybe a cup of dill. It was about 10 years ago.

That's alright. It's no big dill.

457 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:28:19pm

re: #432 ArchangelMichael

It's a good thing to be able to identify people who downding for no reason so they can be called on it.

Making it anonymous just adds a layer of protection to trolls, stealth downdingers, and otherwise fucktards who upon realizing they are anonymous, take it as carte blanche to be assholes with no consequences.

That was awesome. :)

Also, I think the word 'fucktard' needs to be used more.

458 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:28:28pm

re: #447 albusteve

ahhh...
[Link: www.kitcutters.com...]

Sweet!

Tondelayo was in Seattle not long ago.

459 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:28:47pm

re: #427 Erik The Red

Haha. That would be telling. OK, one is a car re-builder.

LOL..I'm working up my views of the Viking/Colts game tonight...
I am stunned by th first line Viking Defense..They are fast, Athletic Monsters...
If I was a Vikings fan right now..I'd be feeling pretty dang good...
/Lizards...Next month when you are standing around the water fountain talking football...Bring up the Viking defense...Everybody will say amen...
The Viking defense speed was unbelievable tonight...

460 JacksonTn  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:29:04pm

re: #450 Charles

Nude drunk loses way in hotel.

And we all know how painful that can be.

No friggin joke I know a guy that happened to in Vegas ... and he had to watch it on video after security came ... he didn't go into another room ... he got up in the middle of the night after going to a room with a couple of girls and went out the door instead of going to the bathroom ... he was stinking drunk ...

461 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:29:15pm
462 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:29:50pm

re: #452 Cato the Elder

As a Catholic, I have always dreamed of having my very own canon. These days you're lucky to get a sexton.

I'm too old for sexton these days...unless I go sailing of course

463 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:30:01pm

re: #445 jcm

6 .50s and 75mm cannon! Baaad ass indeed!

I have flown this one:

[Link: spotted.lubbockonline.com...]

Helps to be an ex Air Force jock.

464 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:30:05pm

re: #451 mikalm

I used to live across the street from a vet's office, and would often see people of all ages and sexes emerging from from it in tears.


when I had to put my Sheltie down, the vet asked if I would like to stay in the room until I was ready to leave. I said no, I was all right. Then I went to my car in his parking lot a cried like a baby for a good long time.

465 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:30:17pm

re: #452 Cato the Elder

As a Catholic, I have always dreamed of having my very own canon. These days you're lucky to get a sexton.

Well, you can settle for being canonsensical.
/heh

466 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:30:48pm

re: #458 jcm

Sweet!

Tondelayo was in Seattle not long ago.

looks like she's rigged for recon

467 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:30:49pm

re: #312 swamprat

Maybe we could comment anonymously: that way I could avoid the tremendous feeling of of shame and regret I sometimes feel when I find myself updinging a person with whom I find little to agree with, or even like. Someone such as yourself, for instance.

468 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:31:06pm

re: #452 Cato the Elder

As a Catholic, I have always dreamed of having my very own canon.

Canons are only for the Big Shots. You're of too small caliber!

469 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:31:17pm

re: #438 jcm

For a summer picnic I did a chilled poached salmon with yogurt dill sauce.

I'd love to do seafood but, my larger meals sometimes include my parents and my mom is highly allergic to it.

470 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:31:26pm

re: #462 albusteve

I'm too old for sexton these days...unless I go sailing of course

"The first time I got sick."
"The second time my hat blew off!"

471 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:31:56pm

re: #421 albusteve

you know I often think about what I could have if I was the King...planes, tanks, boats...I always wanted my own mission ready B-25...roaring down low and wacking stuff...ever think about that?

I've thought about this, but I haven't figured out one thing I'd want. Other than a nuclear submarine.

472 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:32:14pm

re: #457 iceweasel

That was awesome. :)

Also, I think the word 'fucktard' needs to be used more.

That page allowed me to add "s--tc--k" to my personal library of expletives.

473 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:32:42pm

re: #463 austin_blue

I have flown this one:

[Link: spotted.lubbockonline.com...]

Helps to be an ex Air Force jock.

Green with envy!

Best I've done with classic birds is flights (with stick time) in a Ryan PT-22 and SNJ.

474 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:33:03pm

re: #457 iceweasel

That was awesome. :)

Also, I think the word 'fucktard' needs to be used more.

I think the nekkid guy down under is probably a fucktard.

475 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:33:27pm

re: #450 Charles

Nude drunk loses way in hotel.

And we all know how painful that can be.

Police gave him a ride home clad in a hotel bathrobe, but let him off after the guests and hotel decided not to press charges.

I hate to say this but, in the U.S., he might STILL be in jail, awaiting arraignment.

I hope he had the mother of all hang-overs.

476 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:33:43pm

I'm getting desktop pc for daughter for college. is 4gb ram sufficient for vista.

477 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:33:57pm

Don't know if this has been posted...

Man Convicted of Groping Minnie Mouse

A 60-year-old man has been convicted of groping a woman in a Minnie Mouse costume at Walt Disney World.
John William Moyer of Cressona, Pa., told the judge he is innocent. His son said before sentencing that his father would never inappropriately touch a woman.

"A woman? Never. Giant anthropomorphised mice? Probably."

478 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:34:05pm

re: #469 MandyManners

I'd love to do seafood but, my larger meals sometimes include my parents and my mom is highly allergic to it.

Bummer...

I know how seafood allergies can be, plenty of calls as EMT for 'em.

479 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:34:11pm

re: #450 Charles

Nude drunk loses way in hotel.

And we all know how painful that can be.

A German fellow I knew who joined a dueling fraternity (and had the facial scars to prove it) told me he once went drinking with the Brüder and came home to find the key had been changed to his apartment building. So he broke in the back, cutting his hand in the process, and bunked down to sleep it off.

The lady homeowner who found him the next day bandaged his hand, made him breakfast, and sent him home. True story.

480 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:34:29pm

re: #456 Soona'

That's alright. It's no big dill.

You're a sage man.

481 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:34:48pm

re: #475 MandyManners

Police gave him a ride home clad in a hotel bathrobe, but let him off after the guests and hotel decided not to press charges.

I hate to say this but, in the U.S., he might STILL be in jail, awaiting arraignment.

I hope he had the mother of all hang-overs.

Or well ventilated by the rooms rightful occupants...

482 itellu3times  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:35:08pm

re: #319 3 wood

LGF locked up for me for a few minutes there. sorry for the delay.

Very good question, and please don't hesitate to ask.

First a lot of people are still being thrown out of work and defaulting on loans. Second, it takes a while after a loan goes on the "nonperforming" list before it is considered in default,s o there are time lags. Third, it can take a while for banks to check on the value of collateral and that adds time to the equation.

Simple answer is, the economy is still really screwed up, despite what the Obama worshippers in the MSM will try to spin you, and we are a long way from being out of the woods yet.

Worse than that, we've had what *appears* to be a return to normalcy, but only at the cost of the fed and treasury putting unheard of amounts of new money into the system.

One assumes there will be hell to pay at some point in the not too distant future.

483 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:35:16pm

re: #476 beens21

I'm getting desktop pc for daughter for college. is 4gb ram sufficient for vista.

Yes, as my laptop runs very well with 4 GB. And I'm not exactly a light user. (Often a couple of Visual Studio windows open, plus other stuff)

484 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:35:30pm

re: #463 austin_blue

I have flown this one:

[Link: spotted.lubbockonline.com...]

Helps to be an ex Air Force jock.

oh man...what a sweetheart...something about those big twin engines

485 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:35:39pm

re: #477 iceweasel

Don't know if this has been posted...

Man Convicted of Groping Minnie Mouse

"A woman? Never. Giant anthropomorphised mice? Probably."

Great caption:

A 60-year-old tourist has been convicted of groping Minnie Mouse at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Fla. The cherished cartoon character is seen here in happier days.
486 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:35:50pm

re: #480 MandyManners

You're a sage man.

I suppose thyme will tell.

487 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:36:01pm

re: #474 American Sabra

I think the nekkid guy down under is probably a fucktard.

God help me, I just knew he'd be an Aussie.
(or a Brit on vacation in Greece).

488 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:36:29pm
489 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:36:38pm

re: #473 jcm

Green with envy!

Best I've done with classic birds is flights (with stick time) in a Ryan PT-22 and SNJ.

That thing was LOUD. And, surprisingly, something of a pig.

If I had my dream warbird, it would be this. It was my dad's first plane out of flight school with the Marines:

That thing is pure power.

490 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:36:56pm

re: #487 iceweasel

God help me, I just knew he'd be an Aussie.
(or a Brit on vacation in Greece).

You've been to Spetsis too?

491 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:37:07pm

re: #450 Charles

Nude drunk loses way in hotel.

And we all know how painful that can be.

Dammit! I hate when that happens!

492 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:37:38pm

re: #483 Kosh's Shadow

thanks for reply, amazing that ram is now bigger than some hard drives in the past.

493 Erik The Red  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:37:41pm

Later Lizards. Going out of town till Sunday night. Stay scaly.

494 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:37:58pm

re: #490 Cato the Elder

You've been to Spetsis too?

I don't know. I was drunk.

*rimshot*

495 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:38:14pm

re: #487 iceweasel

God help me, I just knew he'd be an Aussie.
(or a Brit on vacation in Greece).

LOL

496 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:38:27pm

re: #471 Kosh's Shadow

I've thought about this, but I haven't figured out one thing I'd want. Other than a nuclear submarine.

Anchors aweigh, Mate!


(They forgot to take the flag down before diving!)
497 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:38:42pm

re: #492 beens21

thanks for reply, amazing that ram is now bigger than some hard drives in the past.

The first hard drive I had was 40mb. Thought that was ample at the time.

498 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:39:23pm

re: #482 itellu3times

Worse than that, we've had what *appears* to be a return to normalcy, but only at the cost of the fed and treasury putting unheard of amounts of new money into the system.

One assumes there will be hell to pay at some point in the not too distant future.

Even for someone as financially illiterate as me can see that none of this is going to come out good. Damn this congress!

499 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:39:50pm

re: #476 beens21

I'm getting desktop pc for daughter for college. is 4gb ram sufficient for vista.

Vista minimums.
Based on experience setting up a number for hardware and software test.
Processor; single core 3.0Ghz +, multi core 2.0Ghz +.
I'd take a multicore 2GHz over a single at 3Ghz.

2GB Ram, 4GB is better. Never can have too much memory.

The big bottle neck for Vista graphics. Do not use share graphics, have a separate graphics GPU. 256MB per screen, 3D and Direct X capable. When Vista has shared graphics it really bogs down.

500 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:40:26pm

re: #486 MandyMannersThose puns could get you in a pickle. On other sites they would not be kosher.Charles is sweet allow them even though this blog is his bread and butter.

501 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:41:05pm

re: #486 MandyManners

I suppose thyme will tell.

I hope this thread doesn't become peppered with puns.

502 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:41:50pm

re: #499 jcm

Vista minimums.
Based on experience setting up a number for hardware and software test.
Processor; single core 3.0Ghz +, multi core 2.0Ghz +.
I'd take a multicore 2GHz over a single at 3Ghz.

2GB Ram, 4GB is better. Never can have too much memory.

The big bottle neck for Vista graphics. Do not use share graphics, have a separate graphics GPU. 256MB per screen, 3D and Direct X capable. When Vista has shared graphics it really bogs down.

Windows 7.0 Skip vista...IMO

503 mikalm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:42:40pm

Off to dinner & drinks with the GF -- see youse Lizards later.

504 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:43:03pm

re: #489 austin_blue

That thing was LOUD. And, surprisingly, something of a pig.

If I had my dream warbird, it would be this. It was my dad's first plane out of flight school with the Marines:


[Video]

That thing is pure power.

Power and then some!

505 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:43:16pm

re: #481 jcm

Or well ventilated by the rooms rightful occupants...

Ouch.

506 Vinnieg  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:43:25pm

re: #443 NelsFree

It just goes to show, this country has been under attack by liberalism/socialism/fascism (whatever you want to call) ever since it was founded. Some wanted George Washington to be our king!

507 I am smarter than you  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:43:26pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

I took some books I didn't want anymore to a used book shop I've done a little buying and selling with in the past, and he told me the saddest thing.

He said, "I'd just keep these if I were you. I can't sell these and could only give you a few bucks. Nobody wants to learn things these days."

No doubt this was a man speaking.

What he really meant was that "No one wants to learn to succumb to a phallocentric world of male-oriented knowledge." Well he is right! We need to explore other-knowledge that leaves the Cartesian world of binary opposition systems and discover Otherness intrinsic to multi-valued knowledge systems.

My dissertation explores male oppression that we find in mathematics with the use of the number "1" (if "1" is not a phallus, what is?) and explores how math and computer science could be changed by eliminating use of this number. I construct a new framework for math where the idea of "right" and "wrong" answers are discarded - instead this framework explores how we can give voice to the neglected and silenced numbers like 3 and 8.

508 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:43:35pm

re: #501 Soona'

The dog is barking. That is my Cue. Cumber-som as these puns are.

509 Bear  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:43:40pm

re: #502 HoosierHoops

Do you know if our Windows XP and earlier programs will run under the new Windows 7?

510 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:43:48pm

re: #502 HoosierHoops

Windows 7.0 Skip vista...IMO

We've got a couple MSDN license 7s floating around haven't played with it yet.

511 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:43:59pm

re: #499 jcm

thanks

512 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:44:13pm

re: #467 Jimmah

Jimmah, I'm loving that. :) Perfect.

513 Outrider  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:45:13pm

A couple of threads back the topic got around to agent provocateurs showing up at events to create problems; such as the KKK clad man at a Bush event.

Thought this might be of interest to some following that line of thought:

Man pleads guilty to racial threat using fake Facebook account

"(CNN) -- An African-American man has pleaded guilty after being accused of impersonating a white supremacist in a fictitious Facebook account to make death threats against an African-American university student..."

514 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:45:18pm

re: #507 I am smarter than you

No doubt this was a man speaking.

What he really meant was that "No one wants to learn to succumb to a phallocentric world of male-oriented knowledge." Well he is right! We need to explore other-knowledge that leaves the Cartesian world of binary opposition systems and discover Otherness intrinsic to multi-valued knowledge systems.

My dissertation explores male oppression that we find in mathematics with the use of the number "1" (if "1" is not a phallus, what is?) and explores how math and computer science could be changed by eliminating use of this number. I construct a new framework for math where the idea of "right" and "wrong" answers are discarded - instead this framework explores how we can give voice to the neglected and silenced numbers like 3 and 8.

too many mushrooms

515 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:45:22pm

re: #500 swamprat

Those puns could get you in a pickle. On other sites they would not be kosher.Charles is sweet allow them even though this blog is his bread and butter.

I cannot believe I put up with your post.

516 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:46:01pm

re: #509 Bear

Do you know if our Windows XP and earlier programs will run under the new Windows 7?

IIRC 7 has compatibility mode, like Vista and XP.

517 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:46:04pm

re: #507 I am smarter than you

No doubt this was a man speaking.

What he really meant was that "No one wants to learn to succumb to a phallocentric world of male-oriented knowledge." Well he is right! We need to explore other-knowledge that leaves the Cartesian world of binary opposition systems and discover Otherness intrinsic to multi-valued knowledge systems.

My dissertation explores male oppression that we find in mathematics with the use of the number "1" (if "1" is not a phallus, what is?) and explores how math and computer science could be changed by eliminating use of this number. I construct a new framework for math where the idea of "right" and "wrong" answers are discarded - instead this framework explores how we can give voice to the neglected and silenced numbers like 3 and 8.

Well... em... hello to you too!

518 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:46:13pm

re: #515 MandyManners

Jarring, ain't it?

519 itellu3times  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:46:35pm

re: #498 Soona'

Even for someone as financially illiterate as me can see that none of this is going to come out good. Damn this congress!

It's being kept quiet. Maybe that's for the best. I try not to think about it, either.

I can't damn anyone doing whatever they're doing about this, cuz I sure don't know any surefire solutions. I damn the morons on wall street who made this happen. My libtard finance buddy blames ... of course ... Bush.

520 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:46:38pm

re: #501 Soona'

I hope this thread doesn't become peppered with puns.

Variety is the spice of life.

521 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:46:43pm

re: #511 beens21

thanks

Hoops has a good point, can you wait for Win7. Or is this a machine for school this fall?

522 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:46:52pm

Fucking lame.

523 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:47:11pm

re: #497 Cato the Elder

The first hard drive I had was 40mb. Thought that was ample at the time.

The first machine I used had a 1 MB hard drive, and it was 14" in diameter. (Removable cartridge)

It had a fantastic 8K core memory, and was the size of a desk.
IBM 1130
This was in high school, believe it or not.

If I could find one, I wouldn't mind collecting it.
The oldest computer I have is a PDP-8e, circa 1970, but I have a 1920's adding machine as well.

524 Outrider  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:47:26pm

re: #507 I am smarter than you

No doubt this was a man speaking.

What he really meant was that "No one wants to learn to succumb to a phallocentric world of male-oriented knowledge." Well he is right! We need to explore other-knowledge that leaves the Cartesian world of binary opposition systems and discover Otherness intrinsic to multi-valued knowledge systems.

My dissertation explores male oppression that we find in mathematics with the use of the number "1" (if "1" is not a phallus, what is?) and explores how math and computer science could be changed by eliminating use of this number. I construct a new framework for math where the idea of "right" and "wrong" answers are discarded - instead this framework explores how we can give voice to the neglected and silenced numbers like 3 and 8.

OK. This is just pretty random.

525 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:47:38pm

re: #507 I am smarter than you

for your 1st comment thats pretty good

526 Bear  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:47:44pm

re: #516 jcm

OK thanks. I ask because I still have some technical programs that will only run under DOS so still have my old old 486 machine.

527 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:47:53pm

re: #513 Outrider

A couple of threads back the topic got around to agent provocateurs showing up at events to create problems; such as the KKK clad man at a Bush event.

Thought this might be of interest to some following that line of thought:

Man pleads guilty to racial threat using fake Facebook account

Probably plays a doctor on DNC TV as well

528 itellu3times  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:48:17pm

re: #502 HoosierHoops

Windows 7.0 Skip vista...IMO

I'm warming up the checkbook for a new system for Windows 7 when it comes out.

And a netbook, too.

529 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:48:17pm

re: #507 I am smarter than you

No doubt this was a man speaking.

What he really meant was that "No one wants to learn to succumb to a phallocentric world of male-oriented knowledge." Well he is right! We need to explore other-knowledge that leaves the Cartesian world of binary opposition systems and discover Otherness intrinsic to multi-valued knowledge systems.

My dissertation explores male oppression that we find in mathematics with the use of the number "1" (if "1" is not a phallus, what is?) and explores how math and computer science could be changed by eliminating use of this number. I construct a new framework for math where the idea of "right" and "wrong" answers are discarded - instead this framework explores how we can give voice to the neglected and silenced numbers like 3 and 8.

I certainly hope you'll be devoting time to the primacy of 0, not neglecting to note that while a number divided by 1 can ever only be itself (thus typifying the selfishness of the phallocentric), 0 reduces everything to itself. The Kali, Creator/Destroyer, Mother archetype.

But something so obvious would surely not be overlooked in any seminal-- or rather, ovular-- treatment of your topic.

530 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:48:44pm

re: #477 iceweasel

Don't know if this has been posted...

Man Convicted of Groping Minnie Mouse

"A woman? Never. Giant anthropomorphised mice? Probably."

It does not say in the article but, it's quite possible the woman inside the suit was an underage teenage girl.

My gf tried to get a job at Disneyland in CA when she was a teenager. They would not let her wear the Minnie Mouse suit because she was "too tall"... shes 5'0".

So this guy is probably lucky he didn't get a sexual assault on a minor charge on top of all of this.

531 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:48:54pm

re: #522 MandyManners

Fucking lame.

Never mashed lame, but I've done it with my left arm asleep.

/

532 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:49:10pm

re: #524 Outrider

OK. This is just pretty random.

I am smarter than you

Raised in Low Brow Lake, Wis. Undergrad in Madison. Working on my PhD in Feminist Mathematics at UC Irvine. Dissertation : "The Number 1 - phallocentric implement of oppression"

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This one seems, ahhh, familiar...

533 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:49:29pm

re: #529 iceweasel

Now that is just plain old funny right there. Ding!

534 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:49:33pm

re: #494 iceweasel

I don't know. I was drunk.

*rimshot*

It's gotten worse since I was there.

535 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:49:40pm

Why all the Gherkin around with pickle jokes?

536 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:50:24pm

re: #506 Vinnieg

It just goes to show, this country has been under attack by liberalism/socialism/fascism (whatever you want to call) ever since it was founded. Some wanted George Washington to be our king!

Now, hold on there just a minute, Vinnie.

Please check out the concepts of "negative liberty" and "positive liberty".

Short and sweet: our founders believed in "negative liberty".

FCBBHO has stated that he opposes this philosophy.

If I weren't a wee bit *ahem* distracted, I'd find the link I have of him discussing this.

537 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:50:34pm

re: #522 MandyManners

Fucking lame.

:)...yup.

538 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:51:18pm

re: #526 Bear

OK thanks. I ask because I still have some technical programs that will only run under DOS so still have my old old 486 machine.

You might want do some research. Compatibility mode only goes so far.

For DOS you might need an emulator.

539 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:51:24pm

re: #530 ArchangelMichael

It does not say in the article but, it's quite possible the woman inside the suit was an underage teenage girl.

My gf tried to get a job at Disneyland in CA when she was a teenager. They would not let her wear the Minnie Mouse suit because she was "too tall"... shes 5'0".

So this guy is probably lucky he didn't get a sexual assault on a minor charge on top of all of this.

Oh god, I didn't know they hired underage people there. ick.

540 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:51:51pm

re: #529 iceweasel

WOW! Iceweasel, nice reply.
I was thinking WTF??

541 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:51:59pm

re: #506 Vinnieg

I'm gonna' up-ding you based on your reference to RWR.

542 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:52:00pm

re: #506 Vinnieg

We therefore must be ever vigilant and steadfast in our desire to maintain freedom as our Founding Fathers intended. Lack of knowledge cannot be afforded.

543 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:52:25pm

re: #509 Bear

Do you know if our Windows XP and earlier programs will run under the new Windows 7?

Hi Bear..It's not really an issue of standard programs in XP running under Windows 7.. (except for Enterprise stuff)
The real issues are the Driver devices on the computer..Printers, NIC Cards, Sound Cards and file systems...This is what f*cks up upgrades...
The drivers..Not the Kernel...

544 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:52:28pm

re: #504 jcm

Power and then some!

Two R-2800 Double Wasps. 4200 total HP and 460 MPH. Dad flew them out of Kaneohe Bay, then transitioned to the F3Ds and went to Korea to fight the Godless Commies with VFM(N)-513.

The Flying Nightmares:

[Link: kalaniosullivan.com...]

545 Outrider  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:52:48pm

re: #532 jcm

I am smarter than you

Raised in Low Brow Lake, Wis. Undergrad in Madison. Working on my PhD in Feminist Mathematics at UC Irvine. Dissertation : "The Number 1 - phallocentric implement of oppression"

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This one seems, ahhh, familiar...

Sounds as if this one has penis envy perhaps. ;-)>

546 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:53:03pm

re: #529 iceweasel

I certainly hope you'll be devoting time to the primacy of 0, not neglecting to note that while a number divided by 1 can ever only be itself (thus typifying the selfishness of the phallocentric), 0 reduces everything to itself. The Kali, Creator/Destroyer, Mother archetype.

But something so obvious would surely not be overlooked in any seminal-- or rather, ovular-- treatment of your topic.

Y'all really don't get out much, do you?

547 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:54:17pm

re: #542 NelsFree

We therefore must be ever vigilant and steadfast in our desire to maintain freedom as our Founding Fathers intended. Lack of knowledge cannot be afforded.

Burnnn the witch! Burrnn her!!!

548 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:54:18pm

re: #545 Outrider

Sounds as if this one has penis envy perhaps. ;-)>

No, we have testosterone poisoning...

549 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:54:33pm

re: #539 iceweasel

Oh god, I didn't know they hired underage people there. ick.

I doubt it..Disney is very strict with their hiring practices

550 I am smarter than you  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:54:35pm

re: #529 iceweasel

I certainly hope you'll be devoting time to the primacy of 0, not neglecting to note that while a number divided by 1 can ever only be itself (thus typifying the selfishness of the phallocentric), 0 reduces everything to itself. The Kali, Creator/Destroyer, Mother archetype.

But something so obvious would surely not be overlooked in any seminal-- or rather, ovular-- treatment of your topic.

Yes! The fact that division by the number one has been "taught" to not change the numerator represents the systemic repression of stealth phaloocentrism. Do you think the number "8" feels un affected of having been divided by the shaft-like "1"? Only a male oriented thinker would ignore what is , in fact, a numerical rape.

And the concept of "division" itself should be suspect. Why must we divide? Is this itself not a male impulse? Does Gaia divide? No - she welcomes all into a borderless realm of bounty.

551 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:55:00pm

re: #548 jcm

No, we have testosterone poisoning...

and an IQ of 167

552 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:55:06pm

re: #522 MandyManners

Fucking lame.

Sounds narcoleptic to me.
/

553 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:55:28pm

re: #540 Floral Giraffe

WOW! Iceweasel, nice reply.
I was thinking WTF??

heh. Cheers.

(I've been around people who are doing things like that, for real. Hilarious comment by that person, IMO!)

554 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:55:36pm

re: #507 I am smarter than you

No doubt this was a man speaking.

What he really meant was that "No one wants to learn to succumb to a phallocentric world of male-oriented knowledge." Well he is right! We need to explore other-knowledge that leaves the Cartesian world of binary opposition systems and discover Otherness intrinsic to multi-valued knowledge systems.

My dissertation explores male oppression that we find in mathematics with the use of the number "1" (if "1" is not a phallus, what is?) and explores how math and computer science could be changed by eliminating use of this number. I construct a new framework for math where the idea of "right" and "wrong" answers are discarded - instead this framework explores how we can give voice to the neglected and silenced numbers like 3 and 8.

It must be hard for you to smoke dope because a bong can be phallic, as can a joint or a pipe.

HOW DO YOU GET YOUR SMOKE?

555 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:55:40pm

Poor little lizard...

556 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:56:10pm

re: #518 jaunte

Jarring, ain't it?

My options seem to be sealed.

557 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:56:31pm

re: #540 Floral Giraffe

WOW! Iceweasel, nice reply.
I was thinking WTF??

And if put the one and the zero together, well,

"Ankh if you love math majors!"

558 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:56:34pm

re: #542 NelsFree

We therefore must be ever vigilant and steadfast in our desire to maintain freedom as our Founding Fathers intended. Lack of knowledge cannot be afforded.

Oh here's the visual!

559 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:56:41pm

re: #550 I am smarter than you

Yes! The fact that division by the number one has been "taught" to not change the numerator represents the systemic repression of stealth phaloocentrism. Do you think the number "8" feels un affected of having been divided by the shaft-like "1"? Only a male oriented thinker would ignore what is , in fact, a numerical rape.

And the concept of "division" itself should be suspect. Why must we divide? Is this itself not a male impulse? Does Gaia divide? No - she welcomes all into a borderless realm of bounty.

are you a Cowboy fan?

560 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:56:45pm

re: #554 MandyManners

It must be hard for you to smoke dope because a bong can be phallic, as can a joint or a pipe.

HOW DO YOU GET YOUR SMOKE?

In a salad or in brownies. That's what I think.

561 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:56:55pm

re: #556 MandyManners

Mason others arrive soon!

562 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:56:55pm

re: #554 MandyManners

It must be hard for you to smoke dope because a bong can be phallic, as can a joint or a pipe.

HOW DO YOU GET YOUR SMOKE?

You don't really think that was a serious post, do you? Good goddess.

563 I am smarter than you  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:57:10pm

re: #554 MandyManners

It must be hard for you to smoke dope because a bong can be phallic, as can a joint or a pipe.

HOW DO YOU GET YOUR SMOKE?

An apt observation.

That is why I switched to Peyote.

564 Outrider  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:57:24pm

re: #550 I am smarter than you

Yes! The fact that division by the number one has been "taught" to not change the numerator represents the systemic repression of stealth phaloocentrism. Do you think the number "8" feels un affected of having been divided by the shaft-like "1"? Only a male oriented thinker would ignore what is , in fact, a numerical rape.

And the concept of "division" itself should be suspect. Why must we divide? Is this itself not a male impulse? Does Gaia divide? No - she welcomes all into a borderless realm of bounty.

Why am I hearing music which sounds strangely like the opening to Twilight Zone?

565 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:57:27pm

re: #532 jcm

I.Q. 167?

566 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:57:57pm

re: #550 I am smarter than you

Yes! The fact that division by the number one has been "taught" to not change the numerator represents the systemic repression of stealth phaloocentrism. Do you think the number "8" feels un affected of having been divided by the shaft-like "1"? Only a male oriented thinker would ignore what is , in fact, a numerical rape.

And the concept of "division" itself should be suspect. Why must we divide? Is this itself not a male impulse? Does Gaia divide? No - she welcomes all into a borderless realm of bounty.

yeesh, My Ouija board never predicted this...

567 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:57:58pm

re: #554 MandyManners

It must be hard for you to smoke dope because a bong can be phallic, as can a joint or a pipe.

HOW DO YOU GET YOUR SMOKE?

Hookah? The all encompassing arms of the Goddess figure?

568 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:58:47pm

re: #563 I am smarter than you

I think you should visit Iowahawk's site to hone your craft.. er PHD.

569 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:58:49pm

re: #554 MandyManners

It must be hard for you to smoke dope because a bong can be phallic, as can a joint or a pipe.

HOW DO YOU GET YOUR SMOKE?

Earth bong. gets you close to gaia as well as high

570 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:58:58pm

re: #506 Vinnieg

It just goes to show, this country has been under attack by liberalism/socialism/fascism (whatever you want to call) ever since it was founded. Some wanted George Washington to be our king!

HI!

Would you take the time to check out this?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

571 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:59:12pm

re: #550 I am smarter than you

Yes! The fact that division by the number one has been "taught" to not change the numerator represents the systemic repression of stealth phaloocentrism. Do you think the number "8" feels un affected of having been divided by the shaft-like "1"? Only a male oriented thinker would ignore what is , in fact, a numerical rape.

And the concept of "division" itself should be suspect. Why must we divide? Is this itself not a male impulse? Does Gaia divide? No - she welcomes all into a borderless realm of bounty.



And what about the operation of multiplication? Can we hear this and not hear the theocratic injunction to "be fruitful and multiply"? Not only are we fighting the operations of numerical rape, but what is, in reality, numerically enforced impregnation.

572 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:59:24pm

re: #567 austin_blue

Hookah? The all encompassing arms of the Goddess figure?

Long, slkinny dicks.

573 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:59:36pm

Oh, dear.

574 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 7:59:38pm

Aisha might have sock that is channeling she of the 167 I.Q.

575 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:00:00pm

re: #571 iceweasel

You're on a roll. Ding!

576 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:00:05pm

re: #571 iceweasel

And what about the operation of multiplication? Can we hear this and not hear the theocratic injunction to "be fruitful and multiply"? Not only are we fighting the operations of numerical rape, but what is, in reality, numerically enforced impregnation.

You're having way to much fun, you know that don't you.

577 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:00:24pm

re: #560 Truck Monkey

In a salad or in brownies. That's what I think.

Nope. Anything oral could represent genital fixation. I'm thinking suppositories.

578 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:00:43pm

re: #506 Vinnieg

Here is another link.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

579 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:00:46pm

re: #572 MandyManners

what's a slkinny?

580 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:01:03pm

re: #577 Soona'

Nope. Anything oral could represent genital fixation. I'm thinking suppositories.

mainline dood

581 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:01:33pm

re: #577 Soona'

I got nothin' to say. You guys are 'el fuego' tonight! Ding!
Too Funny.

582 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:01:49pm

re: #579 beens21

Goes down stairs, alone, or in pairs.

583 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:01:49pm

re: #512 iceweasel

Jimmah, I'm loving that. :) Perfect.

Eye of the duck:) Particularly enjoyed the line "your love is like a holocaust"!

584 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:02:02pm

The Sham Wow guy likes to Hit the Hookah

585 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:02:17pm

re: #576 American Sabra

You're having way to much fun, you know that don't you.

I totally am, it's true. :(

586 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:02:20pm

re: #550 I am smarter than you

Yes! The fact that division by the number one has been "taught" to not change the numerator represents the systemic repression of stealth phaloocentrism. Do you think the number "8" feels un affected of having been divided by the shaft-like "1"? Only a male oriented thinker would ignore what is , in fact, a numerical rape.

And the concept of "division" itself should be suspect. Why must we divide? Is this itself not a male impulse? Does Gaia divide? No - she welcomes all into a borderless realm of bounty.

FALLING OVER IN ABSOLUTE LAUGHTER

587 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:02:26pm

re: #550 I am smarter than you

And don't be dissing the phalus k? Some of us are quite happy about it, thank you.

588 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:02:30pm

re: #579 beens21

what's a slkinny?

Everyone loves 'em!

589 Outrider  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:02:32pm

re: #584 Shug

The Sham Wow guy likes to Hit the Hookah

ouch. ;-)>

590 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:02:49pm

re: #584 Shug

The Sham Wow guy likesd to Hit the Hookah

FTFY

591 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:02:56pm

re: #571 iceweasel

And what about the operation of multiplication? Can we hear this and not hear the theocratic injunction to "be fruitful and multiply"? Not only are we fighting the operations of numerical rape, but what is, in reality, numerically enforced impregnation.

You both do that frighteningly well.

592 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:03:22pm

re: #562 Cato the Elder

You don't really think that was a serious post, do you? Good goddess.

TTHHHPPPTTT

593 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:03:51pm

re: #591 Cato the Elder

You both do that frighteningly well.

my 1 is bigger than your 1

594 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:03:54pm

Mathematical phallusies. Logic is rape.

595 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:04:15pm

re: #561 jaunte

Mason others arrive soon!

Will I have time to get out of my hot bath?

596 esch  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:04:24pm

re: #571 iceweasel

Oh, don't be so radical.

597 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:04:36pm

re: #594 Cato the Elder

Mathematical phallusies. Logic is rape.

whatever, these posts are a felony tho

598 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:04:44pm

re: #593 albusteve

my 1 is bigger than your 1

It's all making sense now why Obama is called "The One".

599 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:05:14pm

re: #598 Pianobuff

It's all making sense now why Obama is called "The One".

RAAACIST!

600 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:05:30pm

re: #598 Pianobuff

It's all making sense now why Obama is called "The One".

And why his enemies call him The Big O.

Feminizing him, dontcha know.

601 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:05:38pm

Is integration phallocentric?

602 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:05:38pm

re: #563 I am smarter than you

An apt observation.

That is why I switched to Peyote.

So, it grows down into the earth?

603 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:05:47pm

The Infomercial ranks slightly above The Yugo as the worst invention of all time.

604 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:06:05pm

re: #587 American Sabra

And don't be dissing the phalus k? Some of us are quite happy about it, thank you.

Dis the phalus...
Never!

605 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:06:08pm

Will the government health insurance company be called ...

"Mutual of Obama?"

606 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:06:13pm

re: #593 albusteve

my 1 is bigger than your 1

Texans...

607 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:06:36pm

re: #606 CommonCents

Texans...

Hey!!

608 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:06:50pm

re: #550 I am smarter than you

Yes! The fact that division by the number one has been "taught" to not change the numerator represents the systemic repression of stealth phaloocentrism. Do you think the number "8" feels un affected of having been divided by the shaft-like "1"? Only a male oriented thinker would ignore what is , in fact, a numerical rape.

And the concept of "division" itself should be suspect. Why must we divide? Is this itself not a male impulse? Does Gaia divide? No - she welcomes all into a borderless realm of bounty.

Please..unless you express this by Dimensional analysis mathematics and cancel the terms in a equation you can't be playing the magic 8 number...
*wink*

609 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:06:57pm

re: #547 American Sabra

Burnnn the witch! Burrnn her!!!


Well, it looks like you've been turned into a newt.
So much for being serious. Back to videos, I guess...

610 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:07:09pm

re: #601 spidly

Is integration phallocentric?

No, it is a derivative of it however.

611 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:07:19pm

599, 600: Or he could be the perfect ultimate expression of the marriage between 1 and 0. The unified yin and yang and such...

612 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:07:29pm

re: #607 austin_blue

Hey!!

Everything's gotta be bigger in Texas. Isn't that the saying?

613 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:07:38pm

re: #596 esch

Oh, don't be so radical.

Oh, next thing you know you'll be calling me irrational.

//

614 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:07:41pm

re: #604 jcm

Dis the phalus...
Never!


rofl!

615 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:07:45pm

re: #598 Pianobuff

It's all making sense now why Obama is called "The One".

*finger snap* There it is.

616 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:07:55pm

re: #609 NelsFree

Well, it looks like you've been turned into a newt.
So much for being serious. Back to videos, I guess...


[Video]

I got better!

617 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:07:56pm

re: #611 Pianobuff

599, 600: Or he could be the perfect ultimate expression of the marriage between 1 and 0. The unified yin and yang and such...

Break free of the bonds of binarism!

618 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:08:18pm

re: #613 iceweasel

Oh, next thing you know you'll be calling me irrational.

//

No, just imaginary.

619 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:09:02pm

re: #613 iceweasel

Oh, next thing you know you'll be calling me irrational.

//

Never drink and derive.

620 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:09:13pm

Obama might qualify as i

621 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:09:22pm

Naughtius Maximus... and registration is open LOL

622 I am smarter than you  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:09:28pm

re: #571 iceweasel

And what about the operation of multiplication? Can we hear this and not hear the theocratic injunction to "be fruitful and multiply"? Not only are we fighting the operations of numerical rape, but what is, in reality, numerically enforced impregnation.

I wrote a paper entitled "Vaginal Algebra" in which I explored this very complex and multi-faceted issue. I explored the idea of multiplication not just from a religious view (and the male oppression intrinsic to casting women into a domestic child bearing role) but also the fact that it is the woman who gives life to the world and that multiplication is a life giving operation.

And I took the analysis past such a Eurocentric mind/body dichotomy and explored the impact of Algebra on the lives of Arab Women with the symbol of the Hijab. And in that we have a strong symbol of cultural identity in which the woman feels fortified in the use of multiplication. So we see that in other cultures the use of multiplication is not as corrosive as it is in the West.

623 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:09:36pm

re: #612 CommonCents

Everything's gotta be bigger in Texas. Isn't that the saying?

Well, see, they issue yopu with these amazing coke-bottle specs. Ants here look like Them.

624 albusteve  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:09:44pm

re: #598 Pianobuff

It's all making sense now why Obama is called "The One".

WE'RE NUMBER WON!

625 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:09:46pm

re: #609 NelsFree

man, I hope you are no older than about 22

626 esch  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:10:03pm

re: #618 jcm

No, just imaginary.

Well if we could get Chastity Bono in here we could have a trans-fine-nite.

627 avanti  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:10:11pm

Evening Lizards, Just back from a nice casino trip, not because I won, I barely broke even, but because of the company at the Blackjack table. I met a nice couple, and the husband was anxious for his wife to find a game she could enjoy and I ended up being her Blackjack coach while he shot craps.
The gal was a teacher, and a total rookie. She came in $100, and had to add another $100 before we started her on a run. A few hours later she was up $900, and was happy as could be, and that made my day. Her and her husband joined me for dinner and we exchanged e-mails so we can get together again. I love the social aspects of a friendly table while playing cards, it a escape for me.

628 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:10:46pm

Probably the classic academic punking of postmodernism - from physicist Alain Sokals "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity" (which was accepted and published in a leading postmodernist journal)

Thus, quantities or objects which are in principle unobservable -- such as space-time points, exact particle positions, or quarks and gluons -- ought not to be introduced into the theory.78 While much of modern physics is excluded by this criterion, quantum gravity again qualifies: in the passage from classical general relativity to the quantized theory, space-time points (and indeed the space-time manifold itself) have disappeared from the theory.

However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient for a liberatory postmodern science: they liberate human beings from the tyranny of ``absolute truth'' and ``objective reality'', but not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew Ross' words, we need a science ``that will be publicly answerable and of some service to progressive interests.''79 From a feminist standpoint, Kelly Oliver makes a similar argument:

... in order to be revolutionary, feminist theory cannot claim to describe what exists, or, ``natural facts.'' Rather, feminist theories should be political tools, strategies for overcoming oppression in specific concrete situations. The goal, then, of feminist theory, should be to develop strategic theories -- not true theories, not false theories, but strategic theories.

629 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:10:59pm
630 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:11:11pm

re: #571 iceweasel

And what about the operation of multiplication? Can we hear this and not hear the theocratic injunction to "be fruitful and multiply"? Not only are we fighting the operations of numerical rape, but what is, in reality, numerically enforced impregnation.

With respect to Multiculturalism, let us not forget Integrals. We must fully integrate along the limits of our function to find the volume of human kindness.

631 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:11:11pm

re: #622 I am smarter than you

I wrote a paper entitled "Vaginal Algebra" in which I explored this very complex and multi-faceted issue. I explored the idea of multiplication not just from a religious view (and the male oppression intrinsic to casting women into a domestic child bearing role) but also the fact that it is the woman who gives life to the world and that multiplication is a life giving operation.

And I took the analysis past such a Eurocentric mind/body dichotomy and explored the impact of Algebra on the lives of Arab Women with the symbol of the Hijab. And in that we have a strong symbol of cultural identity in which the woman feels fortified in the use of multiplication. So we see that in other cultures the use of multiplication is not as corrosive as it is in the West.

Did your paper by any chance cover the subliminal connotations of the variables "x" and "y"?

632 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:11:20pm

re: #622 I am smarter than you

Nice nic...

633 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:11:31pm

Vaginal algebra.

634 gregb  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:11:47pm

fascinatingly artistic,...but what does it mean?

635 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:12:07pm

re: #628 Jimmah

Probably the classic academic punking of postmodernism - from physicist Alain Sokals "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity" (which was accepted and published in a leading postmodernist journal)

Jimmah! The Sokal Hoax! Love it!!

636 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:12:10pm

re: #633 SasquatchOnSteroids

Vaginal algebra.

I'd like to see that. ;)

637 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:12:11pm

re: #594 Cato the Elder

Mathematical phallusies. Logic is rape.

So is the government's assumption of duties previously assigned to free peoples.

638 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:12:11pm

Vector Calculus has to be the epitome of the male domination of mathematics. Reducing all curves to sums of straight lines.

639 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:12:52pm

re: #559 albusteve

are you a Cowboy fan?

Certainly not a Raiders fan. Jets maybe?

640 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:12:53pm

re: #627 avanti

Evening Lizards, Just back from a nice casino trip, not because I won, I barely broke even, but because of the company at the Blackjack table. I met a nice couple, and the husband was anxious for his wife to find a game she could enjoy and I ended up being her Blackjack coach while he shot craps.
The gal was a teacher, and a total rookie. She came in $100, and had to add another $100 before we started her on a run. A few hours later she was up $900, and was happy as could be, and that made my day. Her and her husband joined me for dinner and we exchanged e-mails so we can get together again. I love the social aspects of a friendly table while playing cards, it a escape for me.

Lucky you. The wife and I spent a few hours at the casino this afternoon too. Depositing money in the reverse ATM, a.k.a slot machine. Not so fortunate were we.

641 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:12:57pm

re: #623 austin_blue

Well, see, they issue yopu with these amazing coke-bottle specs. Ants here look like Them.

Yopu? Is that a Texan with a phallic lisp?

642 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:13:18pm

re: #636 Truck Monkey

I'd like to see that. ;)

"See"?

643 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:13:31pm

re: #636 Truck Monkey

I'd like to see that. ;)

I just had to type that out.
That dood is Fallopian me out.

644 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:13:38pm

A feminist near where I dwell
Denied that the phallus is swell.
When I contra-dick-ted
She had me convicted.
She's smarter than me. Can't you tell?

645 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:13:46pm

His phallus aimed
an inch too low
the wife got wise
and cried HELL NO

Burma Shave

646 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:13:50pm

Bad, Mandy. Bad

647 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:14:31pm

re: #643 SasquatchOnSteroids

I just had to type that out.
That dood is Fallopian me out.

I hope no one eggs you on.

648 esch  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:14:39pm

re: #645 Shug

His phallus aimed
an inch too low
the wife got wise
and cried HELL NO

Burma Shave

Heinous

649 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:14:42pm

BBL...

A few things to get done.

650 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:14:48pm

re: #640 CommonCents

Lucky you. The wife and I spent a few hours at the casino this afternoon too. Depositing money in the reverse ATM, a.k.a slot machine. Not so fortunate were we.

you didn't use any jedi tricks on the machines?

651 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:14:56pm

*steps back*

652 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:15:05pm

Anybody got a spare QB? Denver is in dire need. Kyle Orton's passer rating is at -1.784e53

653 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:15:17pm

I can give you some Penis algebra.

1y + 2x = a good night.

654 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:15:28pm

re: #622 I am smarter than you

I wrote a paper entitled "Vaginal Algebra" in which I explored this very complex and multi-faceted issue. I explored the idea of multiplication not just from a religious view (and the male oppression intrinsic to casting women into a domestic child bearing role) but also the fact that it is the woman who gives life to the world and that multiplication is a life giving operation.

And I took the analysis past such a Eurocentric mind/body dichotomy and explored the impact of Algebra on the lives of Arab Women with the symbol of the Hijab. And in that we have a strong symbol of cultural identity in which the woman feels fortified in the use of multiplication. So we see that in other cultures the use of multiplication is not as corrosive as it is in the West.

Fascinating! Yes, I can see that we could move towards a more transformative form of algebra, transcending Western culture. Where the 6 might lie down with the 9, as it were.

I hope you'll consider some followup work on this. Perhaps "Genital Geometry and Cervical Calculus"?

655 gregb  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:15:29pm

On a complete aside: I pray for the inhabitants of bonny doon.

656 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:15:35pm

re: #650 spidly

you didn't use any jedi tricks on the machines?

My force only effects living things, the machine was obviously dead.

657 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:15:43pm

re: #629 MandyManners

Scream and run away!


The greatest of phallus songs!

658 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:16:29pm

re: #633 SasquatchOnSteroids

Vaginal algebra.

Uh huh uh huhhh.

659 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:17:00pm

re: #616 American Sabra

LOL! It's Monty Python!
Cue circus music...

660 esch  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:17:17pm

re: #633 SasquatchOnSteroids

Vaginal algebra.

Curses! FOIL'ed again.

661 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:17:25pm

re: #641 Soona'

Yopu? Is that a Texan with a phallic lisp?

Well down here in Baja Oklahoma, we must constantly be reminded that preview is our friend.

But, hey, did you know that if you took everyone in Oklahoma and moved them to Arkysaw, you would increase the average IQ in both states?

662 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:17:41pm

re: #653 SasquatchOnSteroids

I can give you some Penis algebra.

1y + 2x = a good night.

PIMF. gees I'm stoned.

663 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:17:43pm

looks like the conversation is up to it's usual intellectual level

/grin

664 J.D.  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:17:48pm

re: #634 gregb

fascinatingly artistic,...but what does it mean?

Not only that...
How do he do it?

665 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:17:56pm

re: #644 Cato the Elder

A feminist near where I dwell
Denied that the phallus is swell.
When I contra-dick-ted
She had me convicted.
She's smarter than me. Can't you tell?

I think I love you. Is that wrong?

666 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:18:01pm

Ugh. The awful family down the street bought airhorns for their children to play with. At least they aren't crying as much as usual but damn it's loud.

667 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:18:31pm

Oh my-after this thread calculus is starting to make sense after all these years!

668 J.D.  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:18:38pm

re: #663 quiet man

looks like the conversation is up to it's usual intellectual level

/grin

I updinged that because you said it before I posted.

/ Naturally.

669 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:19:00pm

re: #622 I am smarter than you

I wrote a paper entitled "Vaginal Algebra" in which I explored this very complex and multi-faceted issue. I explored the idea of multiplication not just from a religious view (and the male oppression intrinsic to casting women into a domestic child bearing role) but also the fact that it is the woman who gives life to the world and that multiplication is a life giving operation.

And I took the analysis past such a Eurocentric mind/body dichotomy and explored the impact of Algebra on the lives of Arab Women with the symbol of the Hijab. And in that we have a strong symbol of cultural identity in which the woman feels fortified in the use of multiplication. So we see that in other cultures the use of multiplication is not as corrosive as it is in the West.

I checked you out..Whoa..For a minute i thought you really were smarter than than us..Whew!
I was worried there for a second!
/Why come off as a pompous ass? I don't get it...
Do you have an IQ of 167?

670 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:19:01pm

re: #666 Killgore Trout

Ugh. The awful family down the street bought airhorns for their children to play with. At least they aren't crying as much as usual but damn it's loud.


you certainly live on an interesting street.

mowed any lawns lately?

671 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:19:21pm

re: #668 J.D.
Timing is everything

672 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:19:43pm

re: #665 American Sabra

I think I love you. Is that wrong?

I've never minded a slight age difference. BC to AD? Like AC/DC.

673 avanti  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:20:17pm

re: #640 CommonCents

Lucky you. The wife and I spent a few hours at the casino this afternoon too. Depositing money in the reverse ATM, a.k.a slot machine. Not so fortunate were we.

Slot machines are not a good bet, although I've done well on them recently, they'll catch up with you. A few weeks back, I hit the $5.00 slot for 8K, took a check for 6K, put most of the 2K back in, and hit for $3700. Next trip, I pissed away 3K of that win with not one hand paid jack pot, but did earn almost $1000 in comp money since they had a 15X comps promotion running.
I try and always budget myself to play on the houses money through the year if I have a good start, but make my money on Poker and Blackjack, not slots.

674 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:20:30pm

re: #625 beens21

I gain comfort in the knowledge that you know absolutely nothing about who I am, therefore your judgement is meaningless.
Beer?
Ssssnk-pkch!

675 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:20:31pm

re: #666 Killgore Trout

Ugh. The awful family down the street bought airhorns for their children to play with. At least they aren't crying as much as usual but damn it's loud.

You and your neighbors should celebrate "Airhorn Appreciation Day" on awful family's lawn.
At 3:00 AM.

676 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:20:46pm

re: #670 Shug

mowed any lawns lately?


Nope, not even my own.

677 J.D.  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:21:09pm

re: #671 quiet man

Timing is everything

Yes indeedy!
LOL!

Kids are here. Night all.

678 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:21:15pm

re: #669 HoosierHoops

Um, H2 - satire? (I think.) (I hope.) (I pray.)

679 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:21:16pm

re: #669 HoosierHoops

I checked you out..Whoa..For a minute i thought you really were smarter than than us..Whew!
I was worried there for a second!
/Why come off as a pompous ass? I don't get it...
Do you have an IQ of 167?

I think it's havin' a larf at us, Hoops. But it doesn't seem malicious.

680 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:21:55pm

re: #627 avanti

I got into a poker game in Vegas hotel casino that people would come in and play 3 hands then leave and then people started to stay and the 7 of us were having fun. I started at about 9 pm and left at about 3 am. When I checked out of hotel at about 10 am, those remaining 6 were still at the table, still telling jokes.

681 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:22:22pm

That's CE/BCE you extremist

682 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:22:52pm

re: #675 livefreeor die


what about a "rent a bullhorn/Karaoke" event??

683 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:23:26pm

re: #672 Cato the Elder

I've never minded a slight age difference. BC to AD? Like AC/DC.

Now you're just trying to flatter me.

684 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:23:54pm

re: #673 avanti

Slot machines are not a good bet, although I've done well on them recently, they'll catch up with you. A few weeks back, I hit the $5.00 slot for 8K, took a check for 6K, put most of the 2K back in, and hit for $3700. Next trip, I pissed away 3K of that win with not one hand paid jack pot, but did earn almost $1000 in comp money since they had a 15X comps promotion running.
I try and always budget myself to play on the houses money through the year if I have a good start, but make my money on Poker and Blackjack, not slots.

The odds on the tables are MUCH higher and I prefer playing Blackjack. But my honey likes the slots and I'd rather be near her than we go our separate ways.

685 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:24:11pm

re: #635 iceweasel

Jimmah! The Sokal Hoax! Love it!!

Never gets old, does it? Actual postmodernism can be even funnier though. Sandra Hardings description of Newton's Principia as a 'rape manual has to stand as one of the densest statements ever made.

686 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:24:17pm

re: #661 austin_blue

Well down here in Baja Oklahoma, we must constantly be reminded that preview is our friend.

But, hey, did you know that if you took everyone in Oklahoma and moved them to Arkysaw, you would increase the average IQ in both states?

An old joke. Originally pointed toward New Yorkers and Californians.

687 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:24:25pm

re: #682 quiet man

what about a "rent a bullhorn/Karaoke" event??

Best of AC/DC Karaoke event.

688 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:24:35pm

re: #669 HoosierHoops

I checked you out..Whoa..For a minute i thought you really were smarter than than us..Whew!
I was worried there for a second!
/Why come off as a pompous ass? I don't get it...
Do you have an IQ of 167?

Def satire Hoops. No worries. :)

689 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:24:42pm

re: #675 livefreeor die

I'm resisting the urge to go out there now and turn the hose on them.

690 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:25:32pm

re: #652 CommonCents

Anybody got a spare QB? Denver is in dire need. Kyle Orton's passer rating is at -1.784e53

Kyle Orton, heir apparent to John Elway. What's the prob here?

691 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:25:33pm

re: #689 Killgore Trout

I'm resisting the urge to go out there now and turn the hose on them.

DO IT MAN, DO IT!!! Fox News needs another Breaking News Alert.

692 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:25:33pm

Tackle vaginal algebra
in shower or bath
Just use our foam
and stop fuzzy math

Burma Shave

693 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:25:48pm

re: #685 Jimmahtot

Never gets old, does it? Actual postmodernism can be even funnier though. Sandra Hardings description of Newton's Principia as a 'rape manual has to stand as one of the densest statements ever made.

Oh my god-- i am totally unaware of that. Thought I'd heard of Harding-- doesn't she do a lot of feminist science stuff? Was this recent?

694 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:25:51pm

re: #689 Killgore Trout

I'm resisting the urge to go out there now and turn the hose on them.

buzzkill, hearing loss is fun for kids. Go give them laser pointers too.

695 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:25:54pm

re: #689 Killgore Trout

re: #675 livefreeor die

I'm resisting the urge to go out there now and turn the hose on them.


I am certain you will not buckle in this acid test of your manhood

696 I am smarter than you  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:26:28pm

re: #654 iceweasel

Fascinating! Yes, I can see that we could move towards a more transformative form of algebra, transcending Western culture. Where the 6 might lie down with the 9, as it were.

I hope you'll consider some followup work on this. Perhaps "Genital Geometry and Cervical Calculus"?

Geometry offers a great promise for Feminist Mathematics. Take tangents.

You have a line intersecting a circle and sharing a single point in space. The line (obviously the "male") does not attempt to bisect or otherwise shape-rape the circle (obviously the "female"). Instead, there is a platonic intersection at a single point which neither can claim as an exclusive domain.

Tangents offer a model from which all of mathematics can be recast.

However, I feel strongly that the semiologist community should be engaged to purge the name "tangent" of the word "gent". Again, phallocentrism stains the sheets, as it were.

697 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:26:43pm

re: #679 austin_blue

I think it's havin' a larf at us, Hoops. But it doesn't seem malicious.

Shhh...*wink*
Smart people are going to school us in math...
Vaginal math ...dang it...

698 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:26:46pm

re: #689 Killgore Trout

I'm resisting the urge to go out there now and turn the hose on them.

But then they'll know it bugs you and come to your lawn and blow the airhorns.
Don't get mad, get even. :)

699 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:26:58pm

re: #686 Soona'

An old joke. Originally pointed toward New Yorkers and Californians.

I originally heard it about WV and KY, but hey, it transports well. How are the Sooners looking in summer drills? The Horns D looks stout but their O line looks a little shaky.

700 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:27:04pm

re: #694 spidly

re: #689 Killgore Trout


buzzkill, hearing loss is fun for kids. Go give them laser pointers too.

Sorta like an anti miracle worker..

701 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:27:10pm

I freaked a lady out on vacation. Boy wanted a bow and arrow set, those suction cup ones. This one pompous lady in front of us in line says "Looks like it could be used as a weapon", with her haughty taughty look.
"Well, yeah, if you use it right", I saided.

I'm prolly on a list now.

702 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:27:25pm

re: #690 The Shadow Do

Kyle Orton, heir apparent to John Elway. What's the prob here?

Let me guess-same prob as all the other heir apparents to John Elway?

703 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:27:47pm

re: #689 Killgore Trout

I'm resisting the urge to go out there now and turn the hose on them.

In a perfect world , with the right air rifle, and perfect aim you could just 'splode those airhorns in their little hands and nobody would be the wiser

704 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:28:22pm

re: #690 The Shadow Do

Kyle Orton, heir apparent to John Elway. What's the prob here?

Orton tossed 3 interceptions in the first 25 minutes. None of them were tipped, just bad decisions/throws.

705 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:29:12pm

re: #689 Killgore Trout

I'm resisting the urge to go out there now and turn the hose on them.

Do it! Do it! Hose'em! Hose'em!

706 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:29:19pm

re: #697 HoosierHoops

Shhh...*wink*
Smart people are going to school us in math...
Vaginal math ...dang it...

Vaginal math is easy:

"As long as I have one *these*, I can have as many of *those* as I want."

707 avanti  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:29:27pm

re: #680 beens21

I got into a poker game in Vegas hotel casino that people would come in and play 3 hands then leave and then people started to stay and the 7 of us were having fun. I started at about 9 pm and left at about 3 am. When I checked out of hotel at about 10 am, those remaining 6 were still at the table, still telling jokes.

If you get a good table, good people, good jokes and free beer, it can be magic.: ) As a regular, the pit bosses almost always overrate my level of play, so I can earn better comps. They'd rather have 6 friendly, small to medium players at a table, than one or two high roller jerks cussing at the dealer and bringing down the customers.

708 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:29:30pm

re: #670 Shug

you certainly live on an interesting street.

mowed any lawns lately?

Oh, dear me.

In some areas of the Internet, "mowing a lawn" is code for sex.

709 Pianobuff  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:29:31pm

re: #696 I am smarter than you

Geometry offers a great promise for Feminist Mathematics. Take tangents.

You have a line intersecting a circle and sharing a single point in space. The line (obviously the "male") does not attempt to bisect or otherwise shape-rape the circle (obviously the "female"). Instead, there is a platonic intersection at a single point which neither can claim as an exclusive domain.

Tangents offer a model from which all of mathematics can be recast.

However, I feel strongly that the semiologist community should be engaged to purge the name "tangent" of the word "gent". Again, phallocentrism stains the sheets, as it were.

Hence the famous incantation "I wish I were a derivative so i could be tangent to your curves."

710 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:29:38pm

re: #696 I am smarter than you

Geometry offers a great promise for Feminist Mathematics. Take tangents.

You have a line intersecting a circle and sharing a single point in space. The line (obviously the "male") does not attempt to bisect or otherwise shape-rape the circle (obviously the "female"). Instead, there is a platonic intersection at a single point which neither can claim as an exclusive domain.

Tangents offer a model from which all of mathematics can be recast.

However, I feel strongly that the semiologist community should be engaged to purge the name "tangent" of the word "gent". Again, phallocentrism stains the sheets, as it were.

Think how many graduate students could write their dissertations with the Pythagorean formula alone!

711 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:30:09pm

re: #696 I am smarter than you

you've only got a finite number of those in you, so ration maybe.

712 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:30:21pm

re: #706 austin_blue

Vaginal math is easy:

"As long as I have one *these*, I can have as many of *those* as I want."

Excellent.

713 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:30:31pm

re: #708 MandyManners

Oh, dear me.

In some areas of the Internet, "mowing a lawn" is code for sex.

I think his neighbor likes chics

714 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:31:13pm

re: #708 MandyManners

Oh, dear me.

In some areas of the Internet, "mowing a lawn" is code for sex.

Except, possibly, in Brazil.

715 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:31:15pm

re: #696 I am smarter than you

Geometry offers a great promise for Feminist Mathematics. Take tangents.

You have a line intersecting a circle and sharing a single point in space. The line (obviously the "male") does not attempt to bisect or otherwise shape-rape the circle (obviously the "female"). Instead, there is a platonic intersection at a single point which neither can claim as an exclusive domain.

Tangents offer a model from which all of mathematics can be recast.

However, I feel strongly that the semiologist community should be engaged to purge the name "tangent" of the word "gent". Again, phallocentrism stains the sheets, as it were.

Oh fuck for a minute I thought you were a serious mathematician...You might just be wack! But that's cool...Can I have another refill?
How is the advance degree program working out for you?

716 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:31:39pm

re: #706 austin_blue

Vaginal math is easy:

"As long as I have one *these*, I can have as many of *those* as I want."

Ah-the famous Clinton theorem.

717 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:31:42pm

re: #714 American Sabra

re: #708 MandyManners


Except, possibly, in Brazil.

wax on, wax off

Yeow!

718 I am smarter than you  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:32:24pm

GGB

719 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:32:33pm

re: #699 austin_blue

I originally heard it about WV and KY, but hey, it transports well. How are the Sooners looking in summer drills? The Horns D looks stout but their O line looks a little shaky.

I don't know. I think they're still getting over their choking fit they had at their last game.

720 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:32:58pm

re: #714 American Sabra

Except, possibly, in Brazil.

And certain areas of SE asia

721 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:33:42pm

A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isn't there.

--Charles Darwin

722 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:34:13pm

re: #716 livefreeor die

re: #706 austin_blue


Ah-the famous Clinton theorem.


That formula is only for positive numbers only..one must never forget the power of Y axis and of course, the eating at therein

723 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:34:47pm

A femtheorist here believes
That vaginal sex is for thieves.
In other words, rape.
I think it's a jape.
But the dick in me rolls up his sleeves.

724 Racer X  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:34:56pm

Looks like I missed quite the thread.

725 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:35:05pm

What is GGB?

726 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:35:31pm

There was Math.
Then New Math.
Now Obama Math.

I'm Mathed out.

727 Racer X  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:35:45pm

re: #718 I am smarter than you

GGB

Gonna
Get
Booty?

728 Irish Rose  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:36:06pm

Good evening, lizards.

729 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:36:18pm

re: #726 SasquatchOnSteroids

There was Math.
Then New Math.
Now Obama Math.

I'm Mathed out.

There was Math
Then there was Meth
Which led to what we have here.

730 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:36:27pm

re: #622 I am smarter than you

I wrote a paper entitled "Vaginal Algebra"(,) in which I explored this very complex and multi-faceted issue. I explored the idea of multiplication(;) not just from a religious view (and with the male oppression intrinsic to casting women into a domestic child bearing role)(,) but also the fact that it is the woman who gives life to the world and that multiplication is a life giving operation.

And I took the analysis past such a Eurocentric mind/body dichotomy and explored the impact of Algebra on the lives of Arab Women with , using the symbol of the Hijab. And in that we We have see that there is a strong symbol of cultural identity in which the woman feels fortified in the use of multiplication. So Therefore, we see conclude that in other cultures the use of multiplication is not as corrosive as it is in the West.

I'm afraid you and I are just going to have Differential Equations. I suggest separation of variables, after a weekend of malt scotch shooters. Please include a picture of yourself, dressed somewhat attractively. Do not include any text, I've seen enough of your grammar.

731 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:36:38pm

re: #727 Racer X

Gonna
Get
Booty?

lol I'm guessing no.

732 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:36:47pm

re: #728 Irish Rose

Good evening! How's it going?

733 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:36:56pm

Irgh.

734 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:37:06pm

re: #727 Racer X

Gonna
Get
Booty?

Gidget
Goes
Bonkers.

Vaginal Algebra, it's all the rage.

735 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:37:22pm

re: #696 I am smarter than you

Geometry offers a great promise for Feminist Mathematics. Take tangents.

You have a line intersecting a circle and sharing a single point in space. The line (obviously the "male") does not attempt to bisect or otherwise shape-rape the circle (obviously the "female"). Instead, there is a platonic intersection at a single point which neither can claim as an exclusive domain.

Tangents offer a model from which all of mathematics can be recast.

However, I feel strongly that the semiologist community should be engaged to purge the name "tangent" of the word "gent". Again, phallocentrism stains the sheets, as it were.

As with the primacy of the number 0, we see in geometry that the fundamental figure is a point. And what is a point but yet another iteration of the circle-shape? Like the great Goddess, infinitely divisible yet always herself, inviolable no matter what shape-rape may be committed.

I hope you'll consider reworking the Dot and the Line: a Romance in Lower Mathematics. See how the dot is cruelly portrayed as 'fickle' and shallow!

And shouldn't semiologists change their name as well? Phallocentrism continues to stain the sheets, and the Gap dresses, of us all.

736 Irish Rose  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:37:37pm

Wow, just checked my karma... looks like the stealth downdingers have been busy.

I'm crushed.

///

737 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:37:38pm

Trig is just sophomoric with all its references to Pi

738 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:38:01pm

re: #707 avanti

it was fun, and the only game I play at a casino is poker, you can play for hours and if you know some basic odds, you can win.

739 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:38:29pm

re: #730 NelsFree

I'm afraid you and I are just going to have Differential Equations. I suggest separation of variables, after a weekend of malt scotch shooters. Please include a picture of yourself, dressed somewhat attractively. Do not include any text, I've seen enough of your grammar.

I'm also guessing Cato is infinitely more fun at parties.

740 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:38:29pm

re: #728 Irish Rose

Good evening, lizards.

Howdy Irish...Read upstairs a few posts..We have a math genius in our mist..
Wink...
Hope you are well...

741 Irish Rose  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:38:57pm

re: #738 beens21

it was fun, and the only game I play at a casino is poker, you can play for hours and if you know some basic odds, you can win.

You get better odds with Black Jack.

742 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:39:22pm

re: #725 American Sabra

What is GGB?

What?

Do you mean GHB?

743 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:39:25pm

re: #702 livefreeor die

Let me guess-same prob as all the other heir apparents to John Elway?

Confusing, Elway went to five super bowls. what's the big deal? Kyle Orton, heir apparent!

744 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:40:03pm

When it comes to dealing with despots and terrorists we need a president who doesn't have a null set in his britches

and with that g'nite lizardom

745 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:40:09pm

re: #736 Irish Rose

Wow, just checked my karma... looks like the stealth downdingers have been busy.

I'm crushed.

///

I did my bit to "un-crush" you.

746 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:40:21pm

re: #729 CommonCents

There was Math
Then there was Meth
Which led to what we have here.

Aahh. And I thought the police were assholes for breaking up "math labs".

747 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:40:43pm

Avanti, I've never been to a casino. I think you and I live near each other. Care to take me along sometime?

748 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:41:12pm

re: #735 iceweasel

As with the primacy of the number 0, we see in geometry that the fundamental figure is a point. And what is a point but yet another iteration of the circle-shape? Like the great Goddess, infinitely divisible yet always herself, inviolable no matter what shape-rape may be committed.

I hope you'll consider reworking the Dot and the Line: a Romance in Lower Mathematics. See how the dot is cruelly portrayed as 'fickle' and shallow!

And shouldn't semiologists change their name as well? Phallocentrism continues to stain the sheets, and the Gap dresses, of us all.

If the baby had slept more today, I could go into much detail (learned from a couple of Freudian supervisors through the years-you have to talk the talk even if you're a cognitive-behaviorist if you want to get good recommendations) about how 0 looks like a breast and symbolizes the Oedipal fixations of mathematicians.

749 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:41:15pm

re: #742 MandyManners

What?

Do you mean GHB?

No, in #718, our rather verbal newbie just kinda Poofed.

750 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:41:21pm

re: #736 Irish Rose

Wow, just checked my karma... looks like the stealth downdingers have been busy.

I'm crushed.

///

Hey Rose. Updinging you everywhere to offset that. :)

Yeah, I notice a drop of a couple of hundred karma points or so myself every day or so. Usual suspects, no doubt.

751 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:41:21pm

re: #729 CommonCents

re: #726 SasquatchOnSteroids


There was Math
Then there was Meth
Which led to what we have here.

That be mooth.

how about them moothgoothers
aint they obtooth??

752 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:41:35pm

re: #741 Irish Rose

You get better odds with Black Jack.

Not necessarily. The poker game has alot more to do with skill than straight odds of a lucky card. You need to factor in the talent/guts/human psyche of the bluff with poker. Whereas blackjack is follow these guidelines and factor the probabilities.

753 Irish Rose  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:41:59pm

re: #740 HoosierHoops

Howdy Irish...Read upstairs a few posts..We have a math genius in our mist..
Wink...
Hope you are well...

I've always admired people who are good with figures.
I'm a right-brainer... I suck at math, but I play a mean accordion.

754 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:42:04pm

re: #746 Soona'

Aahh. And I thought the police were assholes for breaking up "math labs".

You !

With the calculator !

FREEZE or I blow you're fucking head off !

Good youtube vid

755 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:42:04pm

re: #744 Shug

When it comes to dealing with despots and terrorists we need a president who doesn't have a null set in his britches

and with that g'nite lizardom

Oh, bullshit.

One does not need two tesicles and a penis to be president.

756 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:42:05pm

Hello! Who here in Lizardia has gotten the BSG Season 4 double-CD album (Yes yes, an oxymoron)...I am enthralled by Bear McCreary's work!

757 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:42:11pm

Hey, Ice, I think you should get +10 Karma just for keeping up :)

758 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:42:11pm

re: #749 American Sabra

No, in #718, our rather verbal newbie just kinda Poofed.

I'm guessing GGB means "Got to go, bye".

759 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:43:21pm

re: #744 Shug

Yea, I dinged you down.

760 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:43:31pm

re: #746 Soona'

re: #729 CommonCents


Aahh. And I thought the police were assholes for breaking up "math labs".


Put the calculator down and step away from the chalkboard...we have a 3-12 in progress

761 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:43:38pm

re: #758 iceweasel

I'm guessing GGB means "Got to go, bye".

Ah I'll have to make a note of that.

762 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:44:07pm

re: #753 Irish Rose

I've always admired people who are good with figures.
I'm a right-brainer... I suck at math, but I play a mean accordion.

I enjoy a good figure despite being a left-brainer.

763 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:44:23pm

re: #758 iceweasel

I'm guessing GGB means "Got to go, bye".

Maybe her husband walked in.

764 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:44:27pm

re: #749 American Sabra

No, in #718, our rather verbal newbie just kinda Poofed.

Huh?

765 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:44:32pm

re: #741 Irish Rose

blackjack you play the house, poker you play the players. Nothing will change my mind on that, casino or Fri night game.

766 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:45:07pm

re: #757 American Sabra

Hey, Ice, I think you should get +10 Karma just for keeping up :)

Cheers, AS. :)
I wasn't kidding when I said I know people who do that sort of thing for real. I hope that person comes back-- "vaginal algebra" is hilarious.

If I didn't know better, I would swear it's someone I know (offline).

767 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:45:15pm

re: #764 MandyManners

Huh?

Wha?

768 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:45:45pm

re: #767 American Sabra

Wha?

Who?

769 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:46:07pm

re: #768 Cato the Elder

Who?

DOH!

770 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:46:07pm

re: #768 Cato the Elder

re: #767 American Sabra


Who?


you lost me

771 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:46:08pm

re: #766 iceweasel

Cheers, AS. :)
I wasn't kidding when I said I know people who do that sort of thing for real. I hope that person comes back-- "vaginal algebra" is hilarious.

If I didn't know better, I would swear it's someone I know (offline).

Well it certainly seemed kismet to run into her/him tonight!

772 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:46:24pm

re: #752 CommonCents

Not necessarily. The poker game has alot more to do with skill than straight odds of a lucky card. You need to factor in the talent/guts/human psyche of the bluff with poker. Whereas blackjack is follow these guidelines and factor the probabilities.

My little Sis dealt poker in Vegas. Said said to never ever play there. Your competition is professional. They will carve you up.

773 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:46:37pm

re: #755 MandyManners

Оба́ма may have the penis, but definitely not the testicles.

774 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:47:07pm

re: #754 SasquatchOnSteroids

You !

With the calculator !

FREEZE or I blow you're fucking head off !
Good youtube vid

OK, son (shining flashlight into the car). Why don't you put your 1 back in your pants.

775 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:47:38pm

re: #735 iceweasel

As with the primacy of the number 0, we see in geometry that the fundamental figure is a point. And what is a point but yet another iteration of the circle-shape? Like the great Goddess, infinitely divisible yet always herself, inviolable no matter what shape-rape may be committed.

I hope you'll consider reworking the Dot and the Line: a Romance in Lower Mathematics. See how the dot is cruelly portrayed as 'fickle' and shallow!


And shouldn't semiologists change their name as well? Phallocentrism continues to stain the sheets, and the Gap dresses, of us all.

Ice, I see you have fallen into her trap. A circle delineates an area; a point has no area, only a location. She has twisted your mind so that the point, which is actually the phallic projection of a line vertically through the plane, is considered as a feminine circle, much reduced.
She has wussified you.

Semiology: a. The science that deals with signs or sign language.
b. The use of signs in signaling, as with a semaphore.
Word!
Ice, I'm going to flag you on the semiology thing.
/h

776 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:47:51pm

re: #755 MandyManners

Oh, bullshit.

One does not need two tesicles and a penis to be president.

Well darn it, just how many of each do you need?

777 hopperandadropper  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:47:57pm

re: #123 Charles

Oops. Didn't scroll down far enough. I should have known you'd be quick with a response to the news.

778 avanti  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:48:15pm

re: #747 Cato the Elder

Avanti, I've never been to a casino. I think you and I live near each other. Care to take me along sometime?

I'm near Annapolis, be happy to take you when my companion can't make it. She only goes up about half the time. Drop me a e-mail, it's my LGF user name @erols.com

779 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:48:17pm

re: #766 iceweasel

Cheers, AS. :)
I wasn't kidding when I said I know people who do that sort of thing for real. I hope that person comes back-- "vaginal algebra" is hilarious.

If I didn't know better, I would swear it's someone I know (offline).

I had a couple as tenants once. They were the most humorless people you could meet. One was surprised when she saw my library, and said, "I didn't know anyone but grad students read that many books." I stifled my comment about probable differences in the quality of our reading.

780 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:48:31pm

re: #772 The Shadow Do

My little Sis dealt poker in Vegas. Said said to never ever play there. Your competition is professional. They will carve you up.

My wife says I can't go to Vegas. It would be VERY, VERY costly. I'd wind up betting on minor league cricket games in Pakistan on closed circuit TV at 4am. I prefer straight up wagering to gaming.

781 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:48:43pm

re: #748 livefreeor die

If the baby had slept more today, I could go into much detail (learned from a couple of Freudian supervisors through the years-you have to talk the talk even if you're a cognitive-behaviorist if you want to get good recommendations) about how 0 looks like a breast and symbolizes the Oedipal fixations of mathematicians.

Freudians. Yikes.

Reminds me of the Woody Allen joke in Annie Hall: I wanted to kill myself, but I was in therapy with a strict Freudian...they bill you for the sessions you miss.

782 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:49:06pm

re: #776 The Shadow Do

re: #755 MandyManners


Well darn it, just how many of each do you need?


Previously in this thread it was "one of these equal all of them"

783 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:49:17pm

re: #779 Cato the Elder

I had a couple as tenants once. They were the most humorless people you could meet. One was surprised when she saw my library, and said, "I didn't know anyone but grad students read that many books." I stifled my comment about probable differences in the quality of our reading.

What were their occupations? (Just curious)

784 Shug  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:49:28pm

re: #755 MandyManners

Oh, bullshit.

One does not need two tesicles and a penis to be president.

Not in Germany but so far in America it's been a requirement

785 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:49:45pm

re: #696 I am smarter than you

re: #735 iceweasel

Favourited, and favourited. Still laughing at 'shape-rape'.

786 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:50:05pm

re: #778 avanti

I'm near Annapolis, be happy to take you when my companion can't make it. She only goes up about half the time. Drop me a e-mail, it's my LGF user name @erols.com

Will do! I've always liked old cars, too.

787 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:50:21pm

re: #780 CommonCents

My wife says I can't go to Vegas. It would be VERY, VERY costly. I'd wind up betting on minor league cricket games in Pakistan on closed circuit TV at 4am. I prefer straight up wagering to gaming.

Hmmm...are they taking bets on the Alpha-Qs securing the Pocky-Stawni nuke arsenal yet?

788 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:51:15pm

re: #784 Shug

See comment #773.

789 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:51:18pm

re: #779 Cato the Elder

I had a couple as tenants once. They were the most humorless people you could meet. One was surprised when she saw my library, and said, "I didn't know anyone but grad students read that many books." I stifled my comment about probable differences in the quality of our reading.

Huh. That's weird-- only because grad students do read a lot, but extremely narrowly-- pretty much only in their field (while they're actually working on their diss).

One of my profs in grad school said that the problem with grad students is that they read too much, write very little, and think even less. Pretty accurate, IMO.

790 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:51:24pm

They will not be required when the Saracuda is elected President..

Yet I am sure she will keep a few sets close in case they are needed..

JIC

791 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:51:33pm

re: #784 Shug

Not in Germany but so far in America it's been a requirement

Oh,

792 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:51:37pm

re: #781 iceweasel

Freudians. Yikes.

Reminds me of the Woody Allen joke in Annie Hall: I wanted to kill myself, but I was in therapy with a strict Freudian...they bill you for the sessions you miss.

"I took a Metaphysics class in college, but was failed when, during, the final exam, I was accused of looking into the soul of the girl sitting next to me."

793 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:52:02pm

re: #787 Macker

Hmmm...are they taking bets on the Alpha-Qs securing the Pocky-Stawni nuke arsenal yet?

I wouldn't be surprised if you could find a bookie to take that bet.

794 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:52:17pm

re: #772 The Shadow Do

maybe now but back awhile, if you knew basic poker, and had a reasonable limit, you could play for hours.

795 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:52:34pm

re: #785 Jimmah

re: #735 iceweasel

Favourited, and favourited. Still laughing at 'shape-rape'.

I am too! That was my favourite line. Just brilliant!

796 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:52:42pm

re: #783 livefreeor die

What were their occupations? (Just curious)

Marxist/feminist grad students, one in geology, one in sociopathology. They're both now professors warping the minds of the young.

"A little learning is a dangerous thing..."

797 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:52:48pm

re: #753 Irish Rose

I've always admired people who are good with figures.
I'm a right-brainer... I suck at math, but I play a mean accordion.

I seem to think that anybody that has a nic that I'm smarter than you and tries to combine pure math with social issues is either wack or should give us milk and cookies and explain complex matrix calculus to us...
Hehe...I'm just having fun...
Admit it lizards...This could be fun...I'm smarter than you could post again and give us an unsolvable problem...Let's put our thinking caps on...

798 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:52:58pm

NHS: Breeding ground for terrorists

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Yes, Obama’s healthcare reforms will lead to the recruitment of jihadist doctors. This is amazingly not an Onion report.

799 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:53:07pm

re: #787 Macker

Won my first-ever televised racetrack bet last year when General Carter won the last race of the season @ Saratoga...I was watching in real-time at another racetrack quite a ways away from Saratoga.

Too bad I did the wussy thing and simply picked General Carter to finish 'in the money'...

800 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:53:14pm

I sense a disturbance in the force.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Yep, she's awake.
Gotta send her off to work and get some shuteye.
L8R.

801 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:54:32pm

re: #799 Fenway_Nation

I should do that one of these days. Before the Lady E forbids it. That is, if she forbids it, just to cover my ass.

802 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:55:29pm

re: #799 Fenway_Nation

Won my first-ever televised racetrack bet last year when General Carter won the last race of the season @ Saratoga...I was watching in real-time at another racetrack quite a ways away from Saratoga.

Too bad I did the wussy thing and simply picked General Carter to finish 'in the money'...

Off track betting is fun, especially when you're somewhere where you can bet on multiple tracks. You don't get the usual dead time in between races as there is usually a loop going off every couple minutes.

803 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:55:46pm

re: #796 Cato the Elder

Marxist/feminist grad students, one in geology, one in sociopathology. They're both now professors warping the minds of the young.

"A little learning is a dangerous thing..."

You've got to love sociologists with no social skills.
The strident feminist in my doctoral class ended up sleeping with her married supervisor and bragging that he would never fail her.
So much for feminism.

804 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:56:17pm

re: #789 iceweasel

Huh. That's weird-- only because grad students do read a lot, but extremely narrowly-- pretty much only in their field (while they're actually working on their diss).

One of my profs in grad school said that the problem with grad students is that they read too much, write very little, and think even less. Pretty accurate, IMO.

That, and they're used as TAs so the profs can write more crap and teach less. They end up imbibing not only the profs' ideas but their teaching methods...and round and round we go in the circle game.

805 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:56:30pm

re: #794 beens21

maybe now but back awhile, if you knew basic poker, and had a reasonable limit, you could play for hours.

She dealt every day. Every day she had the same 3 to 4 pro players trading dollars until you sat down. then the fun began.

806 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:56:58pm

re: #776 The Shadow Do

Well darn it, just how many of each do you need?

Oh, good one!

807 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:58:39pm

Well, this has truly been a scintillating thread! G'night, all.

808 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 8:59:22pm

re: #795 iceweasel

I am too! That was my favourite line. Just brilliant!

Tangential, but perhaps my favorite Woody Allen short story:

[Link: woodyallenitalia.tripod.com...]

"The Whore of MENSA"

809 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:00:06pm

re: #808 austin_blue

Tangential, but perhaps my favorite Woody Allen short story:

[Link: woodyallenitalia.tripod.com...]

"The Whore of MENSA"

Sigh. Oh, Woody, why did you have to turn out to be such a creep?

810 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:00:07pm

re: #802 CommonCents

Yea...I figured I could kill some time between races at the track I was at.

811 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:00:37pm

re: #696 I am smarter than you

Geometry offers a great promise for Feminist Mathematics. Take tangents.

You have a line intersecting a circle and sharing a single point in space. The line (obviously the "male") does not attempt to bisect or otherwise shape-rape the circle (obviously the "female"). Instead, there is a platonic intersection at a single point which neither can claim as an exclusive domain.

Tangents offer a model from which all of mathematics can be recast.

However, I feel strongly that the semiologist community should be engaged to purge the name "tangent" of the word "gent". Again, phallocentrism stains the sheets, as it were.

Now, for your next dissertation, please apply this to superstring theory and prove the feasibility of FTL.

812 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:01:10pm

re: #799 Fenway_Nation

Won my first-ever televised racetrack bet last year when General Carter won the last race of the season @ Saratoga...I was watching in real-time at another racetrack quite a ways away from Saratoga.


That's funny, I heard you went up to Saratoga, and your horse naturally won. When are you flying your Learjet to Nova Scotia to see a total eclipse of the Sun?
/Carly

813 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:01:34pm

re: #812 NelsFree

1,000,000 updings!

814 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:01:49pm

re: #808 austin_blue

Tangential, but perhaps my favorite Woody Allen short story:

[Link: woodyallenitalia.tripod.com...]

"The Whore of MENSA"

Oh my-- you won't believe it, but I was talking to a friend about that story just yesterday!

"I needed cash. A girl friend said she knew a married guy whose wife wasn't very profound. He was into Blake. She couldn't hack it. I said sure, for a price I'd talk Blake with him. I was nervous at first. I faked a lot of it. He didn't care. "

y favourite too.

815 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:01:51pm

re: #809 livefreeor die

Sigh. Oh, Woody, why did you have to turn out to be such a creep?

Let me clarify- I love his movies!

816 Racer X  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:01:54pm
817 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:01:57pm

re: #811 Macker

Fort Lauderdale(FTL) is feasible..except when all those kids are there

818 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:04:30pm

re: #815 livefreeor die
Remember woody speaking of feminists in "sleeper".. he saw a picture of bra burning and said
"Notice it is a very small fire"

819 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:04:41pm

re: #811 Macker

Now, for your next dissertation, please apply this to superstring theory and prove the feasibility of FTL.

is that another site of Salamantis?

820 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:06:21pm

re: #818 quiet man

Remember woody speaking of feminists in "sleeper".. he saw a picture of bra burning and said
"Notice it is a very small fire"

The strident feminist in my doctoral program with me felt I was a sell-out because I got married during my graduate years (and to a man!)

821 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:06:25pm

re: #809 livefreeor die

Sigh. Oh, Woody, why did you have to turn out to be such a creep?

I know :(

My fav Woody Allen line, "Sex without love is a meaningless experience, but as meaningless experiences go, it's one of the best."

822 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:06:38pm

Evening - er, early morning y'all - how is everyone this early morning?

823 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:06:51pm

re: #816 Racer X

Squirrel Photobomber

Cute little bugger. He'd make a great stew.

824 neocon hippie  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:07:21pm

I went to the San Francisco health care protest today. I thought it was pretty successful -- well organized, passionate but civilized, no Paulestinians or other crazies, and only a single person from the other side attempting one disruption. At the peak I'd guess there were about 500 attendees.

825 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:07:22pm

re: #805 The Shadow Do

I don't doubt it, but I am a decent poker player, I've played for over 40 years in Fri night games. In the casino poker games I have played in Vegas, Tahoe and Bossier city, I have never lost. I play the games where if you walk away with 1g after 6 hrs , it's a good night. I doubt that pros wd be in those games, and I think I cd detect collusion pretty quickly. My point is if you know how to play, poker is your best bet at any money game, including horse, dog racing.

826 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:07:31pm

re: #798 Jimmah

NHS: Breeding ground for terrorists

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

So, If we vote for healthcare, the terrorists win?
WTF?

Spin and twirl.
Muslim doctors! Ohe Noes!

827 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:08:27pm

re: #822 realwest

Evening - er, early morning y'all - how is everyone this early morning?

RW! What's the haps in North Carolina? Are you well this evening?

828 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:08:31pm

re: #822 realwest

real fine again.

829 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:09:10pm

re: #818 quiet man

Remember woody speaking of feminists in "sleeper".. he saw a picture of bra burning and said
"Notice it is a very small fire"

On the other hand, there's that theory thing that happens to women who don't wear bras. What is it? Oh yea gravity. Also, I've seen Sherry Glaser (shivering).

830 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:09:19pm

re: #819 spidly

is that another site of Salamantis?

If Salamantis is Canadian, eh.

831 Racer X  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:09:22pm

re: #823 Soona'

Cute little bugger. He'd make a great stew.

Or a squirrel melt sammich.

832 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:09:25pm

re: #821 American Sabra
Funniest Woody line in a movie - I think it was "Take the Money and run" and our hapless hero Woody is in jail talking to a prison shrink who said "Now then Mr. Allen (actually Allen's character's name) do you think sex is dirty?" And Woody looked down at his shoes and thought a minute, looked up and said "it is if you're doing it right!".

833 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:09:36pm

re: #820 livefreeor die
My first real GF was a strict femmy..I had to read and understand our bodies ourselves.

I learned a lot for sure.

834 MJ  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:09:45pm

You're Bob Dylan? NJ Police Want to See Some ID

Rock legend Bob Dylan was treated like a complete unknown by police in a New Jersey shore community when a resident called to report someone wandering around the neighborhood...


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

835 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:09:52pm

re: #822 realwest

Evening - er, early morning y'all - how is everyone this early morning?

Hi Realwest! The Colts got their ass kicked tonight..It's preseason.right?
Wink

836 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:10:10pm

re: #821 American Sabra

I know :(

My fav Woody Allen line, "Sex without love is a meaningless experience, but as meaningless experiences go, it's one of the best."

Don't forget "Hey, don't knock masturbation-- it's sex with someone I love!"

:)

837 NelsFree  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:11:07pm

re: #823 Soona'

Cute little bugger. He'd make a great stew.

You know lots of guys named Stewart are angry right now for that. So, I'm gonna go night-night. Thank you all for a very interesting evening.
/Night-night, all
//Still thinking about illuminated hosiery

838 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:11:25pm

re: #827 austin_blue
Hey there! Actually I'm not doing so hot, been sick with a bad stomach (like from eating bad food or something) all day and am still kinda feeling poorly.
How are y'all doing?

839 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:11:49pm

re: #836 iceweasel

Don't forget "Hey, don't knock masturbation-- it's sex with someone I love!"

:)

He's also a fantastic actor. The look on his face in Crimes and Misdemeanors when his character discovers that Mia Farrow's character is marrying Alan Alda's character is haunting.

840 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:11:50pm

re: #812 NelsFree

That's funny, I heard you went up to Saratoga, and your horse naturally won. When are you flying your Learjet to Nova Scotia to see a total eclipse of the Sun?
/Carly

*bow*

841 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:12:17pm

re: #822 realwest

Hi Realwest! Hope you are fine!

842 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:12:17pm

re: #826 swamprat

So, If we vote for healthcare, the terrorists win?
WTF?

Spin and twirl.
Muslim doctors! Ohe Noes!

A commentor on that page noticed something that I missed the first time vewing that. The Dow was over 13,000. This is an old video.

843 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:13:28pm

re: #828 quiet man
Glad to hear it! What are most folks talking about - or is it a smorgasbord tonight/early morning?

844 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:13:41pm
845 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:13:47pm

re: #839 livefreeor die

He's also a fantastic actor. The look on his face in Crimes and Misdemeanors when his character discovers that Mia Farrow's character is marrying Alan Alda's character is haunting.

Also Husbands and Wives. What a great movie-- I only recently saw it.

He used to make great movies and then for a long period, only shit. Sigh.

846 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:14:14pm

Night all-I have to get some sleep before the baby resumes crawling everywhere tomorrow.

847 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:14:20pm

re: #826 swamprat

So, If we vote for healthcare, the terrorists win?
WTF?

Spin and twirl.
Muslim doctors! Ohe Noes!

That's the crazy world of Fox News for you.

848 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:14:30pm

re: #816 Racer X

Squirrel Photobomber

he better not try that around the nuge

849 swamprat  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:14:44pm

re: #842 Soona'

That's gonna get dusted off and played. Count on it.

850 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:14:49pm

re: #841 Floral Giraffe

Hey there pastel penguin...

851 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:15:20pm

re: #835 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops - who was it that kicked their butts? (I pay NO attention to pre-season Football until the last game of preseason, anyway).

852 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:15:41pm

re: #845 iceweasel

Also Husbands and Wives. What a great movie-- I only recently saw it.

He used to make great movies and then for a long period, only shit. Sigh.

All I can say is I'm glad Mel Brooks didn't turn out to be a pervert. Well, you know, the bad kind.

853 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:16:34pm

re: #843 realwest

re: #828 quiet man
Glad to hear it! What are most folks talking about - or is it a smorgasbord tonight/early morning?


a smorgastable of vaginal math, airhorns, and woody allen

the usual

854 Salamantis  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:16:44pm

I have a couple of off-topic questions here...

1) Our two favorite pets (dogs & cats) are carniverous predators. Not omniverous predators, and not carniverous scavengers, but pure hunt-it-and-kill-it-and-eat-it predators in the wild. What does that say about us?

2) Am I the only one who gets a major case of creep-out from the Snuggle fabric softener teddy bear?

855 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:17:09pm

re: #841 Floral Giraffe
Hey there Floral Giraffe - well I've felt better, actually (see my #838). How's about yourself?

856 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:17:09pm

re: #832 realwest

my vote is underwear on the outside from Banannas

857 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:17:18pm

re: #851 realwest

Hey Hoops - who was it that kicked their butts? (I pay NO attention to pre-season Football until the last game of preseason, anyway).

Vikings...Trust me..Big time fast defense...
Hope you are well

858 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:19:11pm

re: #854 Salamantis

I have a couple of off-topic questions here...

1) Our two favorite pets (dogs & cats) are carniverous predators. Not omniverous predators, and not carniverous scavengers, but pure hunt-it-and-kill-it-and-eat-it predators in the wild. What does that say about us?

But they have fur and are so cute!

2) Am I the only one who gets a major case of creep-out from the Snuggle fabric softener teddy bear?

Probably not.

859 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:19:12pm

Back from dinner, the ziti was bomb. Some of the computer talk gave me a flashback. My first PC was TRS 80. Started gaming then too playing Zork I off a cassette tape.

West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.

860 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:19:14pm

re: #854 Salamantis

I have a couple of off-topic questions here...

1) Our two favorite pets (dogs & cats) are carniverous predators. Not omniverous predators, and not carniverous scavengers, but pure hunt-it-and-kill-it-and-eat-it predators in the wild. What does that say about us?

2) Am I the only one who gets a major case of creep-out from the Snuggle fabric softener teddy bear?

Not any more than the baby bear with toilet paper on its ass.

861 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:19:42pm

re: #844 Noam Sayin'
HEY NAOM! How are ya this eveing?

862 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:19:54pm

re: #854 Salamantis

I have a couple of off-topic questions here...

1) Our two favorite pets (dogs & cats) are carniverous predators. Not omniverous predators, and not carniverous scavengers, but pure hunt-it-and-kill-it-and-eat-it predators in the wild. What does that say about us?

2) Am I the only one who gets a major case of creep-out from the Snuggle fabric softener teddy bear?


1 that we learned the principle of never giving a sucker an even break very early in our history
and
2 the snugge bear I can take,,but Burger king looks like he is gonna end up on a tower with a high power rifle someday soon

863 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:20:17pm

re: #836 iceweasel

Don't forget "Hey, don't knock masturbation-- it's sex with someone I love!"

:)

One of my favourites: "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying."

864 NY Nana  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:20:31pm

re: #830 Macker

You are hereby awarded the much coveted LGF Lizard With the Most Avatars Award™

865 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:20:31pm

re: #838 realwest

Hey there! Actually I'm not doing so hot, been sick with a bad stomach (like from eating bad food or something) all day and am still kinda feeling poorly.
How are y'all doing?

Well, the yard is dead, except for the xeriscaping, She Who Must Be Obeyed is up in Arkysaw doing rehearsals with a soprano for some autumn gigs, God help us, and the cat and I are sitting around in our underwear on the computer and drinking plonk.

866 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:20:42pm

re: #854 Salamantis

I have a couple of off-topic questions here...

1) Our two favorite pets (dogs & cats) are carniverous predators. Not omniverous predators, and not carniverous scavengers, but pure hunt-it-and-kill-it-and-eat-it predators in the wild. What does that say about us?

2) Am I the only one who gets a major case of creep-out from the Snuggle fabric softener teddy bear?

Fish and birds are omnivores. Also, some dogs will eat vegatation. Cats, no.

867 Salamantis  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:21:03pm

Really...I get the same creepy feeling from that damn teddy bear that I get from Stephen King's cymbal-clanging monkey...

868 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:21:30pm

re: #864 NY Nana

You are hereby awarded the much coveted LGF Lizard With the Most Avatars Award™

Hey you! Hope you are well

869 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:21:38pm

re: #852 American Sabra

All I can say is I'm glad Mel Brooks didn't turn out to be a pervert. Well, you know, the bad kind.

I do have a Woody Allen story, actually. I was in New York and passed him and Soon-Yi on the street (I was about 21 at the time).

Dude totally checked me out. And not in (what I consider) the normal male way either. Major lech.

After he was done he finally looked me in the face and I gave him the filthiest, most contemptuous look I am capable of giving.

Ugh, thought of it still makes my skin crawl.

870 Irish Rose  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:21:59pm

Charles, are you really a part of the Progressive attack amchine?
Say it ain't so!

871 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:23:09pm

re: #870 Irish Rose

Been nice knowing you Irish..take care of yourself out there in the cold

/grin

872 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:23:18pm

re: #856 beens21
Oh yeah, Banannas - one of his funniest for so many lines and sight gags!

873 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:23:18pm

re: #867 Salamantis

Really...I get the same creepy feeling from that damn teddy bear that I get from Stephen King's cymbal-clanging monkey...

I'm with you. Snuggles the fabric softener bear freaks me out.

874 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:23:24pm

re: #870 Irish Rose

Charles, are you really a part of the Progressive attack amchine?
Say it ain't so!

What's an amchine? Sounds painful. Do chainsaws get involved?

875 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:23:46pm

geez, I came in for a 4GB rec, then diverted to poker, then smarter had some good satire, so I decree" wear your underwear on the outside" and this is a gub to make you do it.

876 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:24:02pm

re: #861 realwest

Tired. Just got home from Day 2 of the scooter rally.

877 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:24:12pm

re: #869 iceweasel

I do have a Woody Allen story, actually. I was in New York and passed him and Soon-Yi on the street (I was about 21 at the time).

Dude totally checked me out. And not in (what I consider) the normal male way either. Major lech.

After he was done he finally looked me in the face and I gave him the filthiest, most contemptuous look I am capable of giving.

Ugh, thought of it still makes my skin crawl.

LOL I have never been oogled by a celebrity.

878 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:24:38pm

re: #854 Salamantis

I have a couple of off-topic questions here...

1) Our two favorite pets (dogs & cats) are carniverous predators. Not omniverous predators, and not carniverous scavengers, but pure hunt-it-and-kill-it-and-eat-it predators in the wild. What does that say about us?

2) Am I the only one who gets a major case of creep-out from the Snuggle fabric softener teddy bear?

1) We *really* don't like mices and ratses.

2) I am *so* there.

879 Kragar  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:24:41pm

Just got back from seeing District 9 and all I can say is wow. Took a little bit to get going but when it did, I just don't know what to say.

880 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:24:44pm

Amchine American/Chinese/Nebraskan

(( Cornhuskers, Ho! ))

881 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:25:04pm

re: #866 American Sabra

Fish and birds are omnivores. Also, some dogs will eat vegatation. Cats, no.

Cats eat grass. Helps in digestion.

882 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:25:18pm

re: #865 austin_blue
Um, ok, what is "xeriscaping" and what is "plonk"?

883 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:25:22pm

re: #855 realwest

re: #850 Fenway_Nation

All is good here! Had a genuine vacation. WOW! Forgot what it feels like!
Mucho entertainment upthread with Iceweasel's new toy, I am smarter than you are.

884 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:25:31pm

re: #880 quiet man

Amchine American/Chinese/Nebraskan

(( Cornhuskers, Ho! ))

Dude! Go Huskers! (bugeaters if you prefer)

885 spidly  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:26:35pm

re: #881 Soona'

good for making green stains on the carpet too.

886 lurking faith  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:26:35pm

re: #875 beens21

I can't speak for the rest of the lizards, but I'm not drunk enough to wear my underwear on the outside.

I don't think I've ever been that drunk...

887 NY Nana  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:26:46pm

re: #868 HoosierHoops

Hi! Still the same,thanks, but that is far better than worse;)!

888 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:26:56pm

re: #881 Soona'

Cats eat grass. Helps in digestion.

Yea, but it comes back out lol

889 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:27:09pm

re: #881 Soona'

Cats eat grass. Helps in digestion.

Heh... my bulldog picks tomatoes and eats them...

890 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:27:13pm

re: #869 iceweasel

I do have a Woody Allen story, actually. I was in New York and passed him and Soon-Yi on the street (I was about 21 at the time).

Dude totally checked me out. And not in (what I consider) the normal male way either. Major lech.

After he was done he finally looked me in the face and I gave him the filthiest, most contemptuous look I am capable of giving.

Ugh, thought of it still makes my skin crawl.

Maybe he doesn't like Gaultier?

891 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:27:15pm

re: #877 American Sabra

LOL I have never been oogled by a celebrity.

Well, he pretty clearly just automatically checks out everyone 21 and under, was my feeling. I definitely wasn't dressed up or wearing minimal clothing or anything. It was nasty.

892 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:27:17pm

re: #869 iceweasel

I do have a Woody Allen story, actually. I was in New York and passed him and Soon-Yi on the street (I was about 21 at the time).

Dude totally checked me out. And not in (what I consider) the normal male way either. Major lech.

After he was done he finally looked me in the face and I gave him the filthiest, most contemptuous look I am capable of giving.

Ugh, thought of it still makes my skin crawl.

whoa

893 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:28:05pm

re: #876 Noam Sayin'

LOL! Scooter stories, please?
It sounds like fun!

894 Irish Rose  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:28:18pm

re: #889 eschew_obfuscation

Heh... my bulldog picks tomatoes and eats them...

My dog eats her own poop.

895 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:28:30pm

re: #834 MJ

You're Bob Dylan? NJ Police Want to See Some ID


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

This calls for some shrieking self-righteous histrionics and a photo-op sham with some beers at the White House...

896 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:28:36pm

re: #891 iceweasel

Well, he pretty clearly just automatically checks out everyone 21 and under, was my feeling. I definitely wasn't dressed up or wearing minimal clothing or anything. It was nasty.

Sounds pretty creepy indeed.

897 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:28:43pm

re: #876 Noam Sayin'
Whaaat - they have SCOOTER rallies? Are they road rallies, drag strip or gymkhana type affairs?

898 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:28:56pm

re: #886 lurking faith

havere: #886 lurking faith

have you seen the movie "Banannas" by W Allen

899 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:29:14pm

re: #894 Irish Rose

Ass-flavored milkbones...invent one of those, and you'll be on easy street.

900 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:29:21pm

re: #894 Irish Rose

My dog eats her own poop.

Cat cookies are particularly yummy.

901 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:29:48pm

re: #882 realwest

Um, ok, what is "xeriscaping" and what is "plonk"?

Xeriscaping is low water veg, all native Texan stuff. Needs very little rain, which is good since we are in a 22 month long drought cycle. Plonk is cheap, but drinkable, red wine.

902 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:30:30pm

re: #889 eschew_obfuscation

Heh... my bulldog picks tomatoes and eats them...

Damn! That's gotta be nasty cleaning up after him.

903 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:30:36pm

re: #901 austin_blue

Plonk is cheap, but drinkable, red wine.

We call that Mad Dog.

904 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:30:43pm

re: #901 austin_blue

Sadly, my plonk has run dry.

905 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:31:08pm

Bedtime for me - later folks:)

906 Salamantis  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:31:21pm

re: #889 eschew_obfuscation

Heh... my bulldog picks tomatoes and eats them...

My 95 lb Staffordshire used to eat Jalapenos off the vine.

But then again, he also chewed the corners on our backyard concrete porch slab round.

And when I used to play with him with a 2 x 4, he would snap off the end, then just grin at me as he crushed it into splinters.

/he was a badass dog.

907 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:31:45pm

re: #895 Fenway_Nation
Ha! Obama should be so lucky as to drink some beer with Bob Dylan!

908 quiet man  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:32:43pm

re: #907 realwest

re: #895 Fenway_Nation
Ha! Obama should be so lucky as to drink some beer with Bob Dylan!

Obama would talk Chicago and Dylan would be talkin' New York

909 lurking faith  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:33:03pm

re: #898 beens21

No; I avoid his movies where possible. I know they're supposed to be funny, but to me they're mostly just depressing.

910 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:33:30pm

re: #898 beens21

it's a line from the movie

911 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:33:32pm

re: #905 Jimmah

Bedtime for me - later folks:)

Bye Jimmah. :)

BTW, watched that SP episode-- hilarious! sick, and hilarious!

912 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:33:39pm

re: #901 austin_blue
Hey Thankew for that! Never knew the name for low water consuming vegitation before!

913 NY Nana  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:33:45pm

re: #755 MandyManners

Mandy Manners for President in 2013!

914 Soona'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:34:18pm

re: #895 Fenway_Nation

This calls for some shrieking self-righteous histrionics and a photo-op sham with some beers at the White House...

If Bob would only have just told them his name (Bpcht Dchelx), they would have understood.

915 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:35:23pm

re: #903 Mich-again
Oh yeah, MD 20/20 - man that brings back some fond memories.
Also some not so fond memories.
nevermaind.
How are y'all doing Mich?

916 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:36:02pm

re: #543 HoosierHoops

Hi Bear..It's not really an issue of standard programs in XP running under Windows 7.. (except for Enterprise stuff)
The real issues are the Driver devices on the computer..Printers, NIC Cards, Sound Cards and file systems...This is what f*cks up upgrades...
The drivers..Not the Kernel...

So far I've only had problems with some trading APIs unable to run on Win7. All the standard programs run ok.

917 Aye Pod  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:36:29pm

re: #911 iceweasel

Bye Jimmah. :)

BTW, watched that SP episode-- hilarious! sick, and hilarious!

Glad you enjoyed it - I think it's one of their very best! good night I-dub:)

918 Salamantis  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:37:56pm

re: #915 realwest

Oh yeah, MD 20/20 - man that brings back some fond memories.
Also some not so fond memories.
nevermaind.
How are y'all doing Mich?

Who remembers Richard's Wild Irish Rose?
Rough as a cob, but packed a helluva kick (21% alcohol).

919 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:40:35pm

re: #884 eschew_obfuscation

Dude! Go Huskers! (bugeaters if you prefer)

Ah, the children of the corn. You know what that big "N" on their helmets stands for?

Knowledge.

((badda bing))
re: #904 jaunte

Sadly, my plonk has run dry.

Try the Banrock Station 4-bottle box. Drinkable and it lasts forever on the shelf.

920 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:40:36pm

re: #918 Salamantis

Who remembers Richard's Wild Irish Rose?
Rough as a cob, but packed a helluva kick (21% alcohol).

Bad, bad, wicked memories.

921 Locker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:40:52pm

re: #918 Salamantis

Who remembers Richard's Wild Irish Rose?
Rough as a cob, but packed a helluva kick (21% alcohol).

Back in the day we drank Mickey's Big Mouths... little green hand grenades of goodness.

922 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:42:34pm

re: #918 Salamantis
Hi Sal - nope can't say I ever heard about Richard's Wild Irish Rose, but iirc, MadDog 20/20 was 40 proof, or 20% alcohol.
If I'd a known I was gonna live this long, I'd a taken better care of myself (h/t Mickey Mantle).

923 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:43:18pm

re: #922 realwest

Hi Sal - nope can't say I ever heard about Richard's Wild Irish Rose, but iirc, MadDog 20/20 was 40 proof, or 20% alcohol.
If I'd a known I was gonna live this long, I'd a taken better care of myself (h/t Mickey Mantle).

Mickey's widow passed this week.

924 gregb  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:44:07pm

re: #921 Locker

Back in the day we drank Mickey's Big Mouths... little green hand grenades of goodness.

Oww, oww, oww. Ewww. :-P Stop reminding me. Buckhorn, Shcaefer, Primo...the memory just gives me a hangover. Is high school still the same?

925 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:44:29pm

re: #923 austin_blue
Damn, I'm sorry to hear that - do y'all recall how old she was and what killed her?

926 Salamantis  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:44:30pm

re: #922 realwest

Hi Sal - nope can't say I ever heard about Richard's Wild Irish Rose, but iirc, MadDog 20/20 was 40 proof, or 20% alcohol.
If I'd a known I was gonna live this long, I'd a taken better care of myself (h/t Mickey Mantle).

I have surmised that Richard's added the last 1% just so it could claim to be stronger than Mad Dog.

927 lurking faith  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:44:40pm

re: #918 Salamantis

Who remembers Richard's Wild Irish Rose?
Rough as a cob, but packed a helluva kick (21% alcohol).

Never tried that, as far as I know.

But the first time I ever tossed down a shot, it was 151.

928 Digital Display  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:46:29pm

re: #916 Bagua

So far I've only had problems with some trading APIs unable to run on Win7. All the standard programs run ok.

Really? We should stay in touch...But what API's? We deal mostly in Oracle API..But we live in a windows world..and all of the old school folks know what is going down with Windows... I mean Windows...You gotta love it!

929 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:46:50pm

re: #926 Salamantis
LOL! Well you sure could be right about that! Funny thing is I don't remember MadDog tasting all that badly, either.

930 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:46:59pm

Ahhhn, a little Ruination is good!

931 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:47:45pm

re: #926 Salamantis

I have surmised that Richard's added the last 1% just so it could claim to be stronger than Mad Dog.

A nice cherry flavor, Wild Irish Rose, as I recall? Least I remember that on the way back out.

932 Bagua  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:48:24pm

re: #928 HoosierHoops

The two so far are J-Trader and Turbo Trader II,

I should have mentioned the problem is with the 64-bit version only.

933 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:48:31pm

re: #925 realwest

Damn, I'm sorry to hear that - do y'all recall how old she was and what killed her?

Merlyn was 77 and died of complications of Alzheimer's. The long, painful, goodbye. I lost my FIL to it. Awful. Death delayed and protracted.

934 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:48:38pm

When wine is $1.50 a bottle, you should probably leave it on the shelf.

935 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:49:20pm

re: #934 American Sabra

Put the Frass Valley back?

936 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:49:33pm

re: #915 realwest

Doing fine bro. I was just checking out the Facebook page for a while. Funny seeing all those people from elementary school all grown up with their own kids. HA!

How you doing these days?

937 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:49:35pm

Sorry.

That should have been "wine".

938 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:50:23pm

re: #930 jcm
Hey there jcm - how are ya tonight? And c'mon now admitt it, y'all only like that stuff cause of the graphics on the container!

939 American Sabra  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:50:30pm

re: #935 jaunte

Put the Frass Valley back?

I'm totally unfamiliar, but I will say yes!

940 Salamantis  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:50:43pm

re: #927 lurking faith

Never tried that, as far as I know.

But the first time I ever tossed down a shot, it was 151.

I remember back when Everclear was still 190 proof.

It was back in my Navy days, in the '70's. We used to buy it by the quart or half-gallon.

I know that I should have some crazy memories from back then, but I don't. I just draw blanks in spots. I do retain memories of some horrific hangovers, though.

941 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:51:03pm

re: #918 Salamantis

Who remembers Richard's Wild Irish Rose?
Rough as a cob, but packed a helluva kick (21% alcohol).

I remember that. We pronounced it Wild Irish Rosay.

942 Racer X  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:52:23pm

Badass of the Week
Juliane Koepcke

943 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:52:41pm

re: #893 Floral Giraffe

LOL! Scooter stories, please?
It sounds like fun!

Four day rally the 2nd weekend of August - Rattle My Bones.

Last year we had 232 scooters for the big ride, which is held on Saturday. Here's a piece of us coming out of a parking lot on our half-way point.

Look for a blue scooter at about 1:05 - it's your boy, Noam.

944 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:52:51pm

re: #939 American Sabra

From the movie "Sideways." Tanker-truck wine.

945 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:53:50pm

re: #938 realwest

Hey there jcm - how are ya tonight? And c'mon now admitt it, y'all only like that stuff cause of the graphics on the container!

LOL! Maybe, painted bottles are nice!

Doing well, took the kiddies to a round of dentist and doctor appointments, routine stuff, but with us it's a traveling circus.

946 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:53:51pm

re: #930 jcm

Ahhhn, a little Ruination is good!

Oh, yummm.

The Whole Foods HQ is just across the river from me. They have an actual no-shit walk-in cooler inside the store with +/- 30 beers in there. I have been checking out some of the Double IPAs that the micros have been brewing up recently. Expensive, strong, and absolutely ideal when it's 105 outside. Sadly, we've had a lot of that this year. Happily, there is beer.

947 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:53:52pm

re: #936 Mich-again
I'm more or less ok - some stomach problems today, but hopefully they'll be gone later this morning!
And I just never got into Facebooking. Or Twittering or whatever. Hell it took me 'til two years ago to get a cell phone!

948 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:53:53pm

re: #897 realwest

Whaaat - they have SCOOTER rallies? Are they road rallies, drag strip or gymkhana type affairs?

We have a gymkhana.

949 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:55:19pm

re: #940 Salamantis

I remember back when Everclear was still 190 proof.

It was back in my Navy days, in the '70's. We used to buy it by the quart or half-gallon.

I know that I should have some crazy memories from back then, but I don't. I just draw blanks in spots. I do retain memories of some horrific hangovers, though.

Willie Nelson has the same problem. He blames it on potholes.

950 Macker  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:55:27pm

re: #864 NY Nana

[Bowing] Thank you, thank you, thank you!

951 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:56:11pm

re: #943 Noam Sayin'

Four day rally the 2nd weekend of August - Rattle My Bones.

Last year we had 232 scooters for the big ride, which is held on Saturday. Here's a piece of us coming out of a parking lot on our half-way point.

Look for a blue scooter at about 1:05 - it's your boy, Noam.

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

IT'S A SCOOTER GANG!

/;-P

Looks like fun!

952 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:57:32pm

re: #933 austin_blue

I played golf with Mick Jr and don't want to reveal much more ,but the big Mick put a lot of " stuff" on his family

953 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:58:58pm

re: #942 Racer X

Badass of the Week
Juliane Koepcke

Wow.

954 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:59:17pm

re: #946 austin_blue

Oh, yummm.

The Whole Foods HQ is just across the river from me. They have an actual no-shit walk-in cooler inside the store with +/- 30 beers in there. I have been checking out some of the Double IPAs that the micros have been brewing up recently. Expensive, strong, and absolutely ideal when it's 105 outside. Sadly, we've had a lot of that this year. Happily, there is beer.

Stone has a bunch of brews chock full of hoppy goodness!

If your taste runs to the bitter side that is.

955 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 9:59:34pm

re: #946 austin_blue

Oh, yummm.

The Whole Foods HQ is just across the river from me. They have an actual no-shit walk-in cooler inside the store with +/- 30 beers in there. I have been checking out some of the Double IPAs that the micros have been brewing up recently. Expensive, strong, and absolutely ideal when it's 105 outside. Sadly, we've had a lot of that this year. Happily, there is beer.

Make that 300.

PIMF

956 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:00:15pm

re: #942 Racer X
Huh. BadAss of the Year - any year!
But I didn't think there were crocodiles in the Amazon, just Caimen (S.A. version of alligtors). Smart and tough woman though. Glad she survived that ordeal.

957 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:00:23pm

re: #946 austin_blue

why is John Mackey getting hosed by the left for his wsj oped piece

958 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:01:40pm

re: #952 beens21

I played golf with Mick Jr and don't want to reveal much more ,but the big Mick put a lot of " stuff" on his family

I've heard that. A rather vicious drunk. An didn't quit boozing, even after the liver transplant. Imagine what he would have done if he wasn't on the sauce?

959 lurking faith  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:02:14pm

re: #940 Salamantis

lol

We skipped the Everclear; I think the consensus was that it would unbalance the ratio of social enjoyment to unpleasant aftereffect.

960 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:02:53pm

re: #947 realwest

Facebook is Kind of cool. I bet if you signed up and started searching names of old friends and family you'd connect with all sorts of people. (It helps if they have names that aren't like Bob Smith.)

961 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:04:00pm

re: #955 austin_blue

Make that 300.

PIMF

Got a Beer Shop not far, only beer, nothing but beer. Imports, micro brews, etc...
And not one can of Coors or Bud.

962 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:05:56pm

re: #957 beens21

why is John Mackey getting hosed by the left for his wsj oped piece

I think because he's not on the socialist bandwagon.
He doesn't want government healthcare.

963 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:06:17pm

re: #958 austin_blue

actually what killed MM was hep C, liver transplant doesn't work b/c the hep C is in your blood. Kills the next liver.

964 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:08:22pm

re: #957 beens21

why is John Mackey getting hosed by the left for his wsj oped piece

Because it totally sucked ass.

i could summarise the reasons why it's hated, if you're truly interested.

965 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:15:35pm

re: #961 jcm

And not one can of Coors or Bud.

Big fan of the Macro brew here. And Bud is the King of them all.

966 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:15:56pm

re: #948 Noam Sayin'
God bless y'all - especially those who chose not to wear helmets! LOL!
In the wayback machine, realwest remembers running some gymkhanas in an ole MGB till one day one of my wealthier friends (well, his ole man was wealthy) got himself a 1967 Jaguar E-Type and I tried the SAME gymkhana with it. Went faster (and over lots more pylons in first gear than I thought possible!). Course that summer we just HADDA DRIVE it to L.A. - from NYC suburbs. I timed it just so's we'd switch driving as we hit the Nevada line - and in those days, they didn't have any speed limits.
Got that Jag up to 135 - it had more to give - but I sure as hell wasn't going any faster. Got PASSED -while doing 135 MPH by some mud/dirt covered red bomb. Pulled up at the next truck stop, saw this red bomb sitting there and I went in and asked who the hell owned that thing and what was it? Fella said "ME, It's a Lamborghini Miura and if you were driving that Jag, I passed you doing 170 MPH!"
We sorta stayed at a much more sedate 110 the rest of the way through Nevada.
Talk about being embarrassed!

967 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:16:28pm

re: #964 iceweasel

speak

968 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:18:14pm

re: #957 beens21
Hey, y'all got a link to that WSJ piece?

969 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:18:41pm

re: #965 Mich-again

Big fan of the Macro brew here. And Bud is the King of them all.

Heathen! Heretic! Infidel!
That's not beer...

This is a beer!

;-P

De gustibus non est disputandum

970 jaunte  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:21:07pm

re: #968 realwest

Here is is, realwest:
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

971 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:21:29pm

re: #958 austin_blue
Imagine ehat the Mick woulda done if he didn't tear up his knees?
Maye not Aaron good, but second place for sure!

972 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:22:26pm

re: #957 beens21

why is John Mackey getting hosed by the left for his wsj oped piece

Not by the left. I'm left of center. By the Libtards. I've known John since 1990. We don't run in the same circles, but we say say "Howdy" when we see each other.

People want Whole Foods to be all Goodness and Light when they don't realize that retail grocery sales is a cut throat bidness.

Here's the article. You can probably guess why the moonbats are barking:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

I don't disagree with many of his points. But one thing to remember is that the average age of his workers is probably under 30 and they leave after a few years. His demographic gives him a tremendous advantage over another business whose employees are looking for a lifetime career. His insurance costs, based on his average employee demographic, is very low.

973 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:23:48pm

re: #969 jcm

I am the anti beer-snob. So an ad like that one..

But when you taste this lacerative mutha of a beer, you'll be knocked into dreamland! This malt & hop monster is not for the timid however, so beware.

I'm like, yawn. I'll have a Budweiser.

974 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:23:48pm

re: #970 jaunte
Hey there juante my friend - thank you for that!
BBIAM!

975 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:24:17pm

re: #961 jcm

Got a Beer Shop not far, only beer, nothing but beer. Imports, micro brews, etc...
And not one can of Coors or Bud.

My brother in law is a Scotsman. He says drinking American beer is like making love in a canoe.

"Fucking next to water."

976 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:24:35pm

re: #972 austin_blue

Grocery has razor thin margins, 3-4% IIRC. Natural and organic even more so, costs are higher for that and to be competitive take a real smarts.

977 harpsicon  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:26:19pm

re: #693 iceweasel

tot

Oh my god-- i am totally unaware of that. Thought I'd heard of Harding-- doesn't she do a lot of feminist science stuff? Was this recent?

Nah, it was years ago.

978 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:26:45pm

re: #963 beens21

actually what killed MM was hep C, liver transplant doesn't work b/c the hep C is in your blood. Kills the next liver.

Really? They gave him a new liver when they knew he had Hep C? Somebody needs to lose a license...

979 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:27:26pm

re: #975 austin_blue

My brother in law is a Scotsman. He says drinking American beer is like making love in a canoe.

Tell him I said GGF.

980 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:28:08pm

re: #973 Mich-again

I am the anti beer-snob. So an ad like that one..

I'm like, yawn. I'll have a Budweiser.

LOL!

I play a beer snob on TV ;-)

I just prefer stuff at the dark and bitter end of the beer spectrum.

981 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:29:04pm

re: #972 austin_blue

Not by the left. I'm left of center. By the Libtards. I've known John since 1990. We don't run in the same circles, but we say say "Howdy" when we see each other.

People want Whole Foods to be all Goodness and Light when they don't realize that retail grocery sales is a cut throat bidness.

Here's the article. You can probably guess why the moonbats are barking:

[Link: online.wsj.com...] I don't disagree with many of his points. But one thing to remember is that the average age of his workers is probably under 30 and they leave after a few years. His demographic gives him a tremendous advantage over another business whose employees are looking for a lifetime career. His insurance costs, based on his average employee demographic, is very low.

Must politely disagree. Some things he calls for:

• Remove the legal obstacles that slow the creation of high-deductible health insurance plans and health savings accounts (HSAs).

In other words, employers can pay less and employees pay more. Huh?

• Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover.

So, not only should employers pay less, and employees pay more, he's advocating for allowing insurance companies to exclude even more people and kick them out. Again, huh?

• Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance and aren’t covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State Children’s Health Insurance Program

WTF? So, to quote someone else on this, he's saying that if each and every one of the U.S. taxpayers donated $10 to this fund, we could provide $28 worth of care each yer to the 50 million people who are uninsured. Got cancer but no insurance? Here’s enough to go buy some aspirin, a pint of vodka, bandages and a knife so you can cut your tumor out your own damn self.

982 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:30:59pm

re: #975 austin_blue

My brother in law is a Scotsman. He says drinking American beer is like making love in a canoe.

"Fucking next to water."

He's right about that. :)

983 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:33:12pm

re: #980 jcm

I just prefer stuff at the dark and bitter end of the beer spectrum.

I prefer stuff that doesn't cost $10 for a 6-pack.

984 realwest  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:36:11pm

Well I gotta try to get some sleep y'all.
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all donw the road.

Good night, all.

985 harpsicon  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:36:51pm

re: #628 Jimmah

Probably the classic academic punking of postmodernism - from physicist Alain Sokals "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity" (which was accepted and published in a leading postmodernist journal)

I adored this so much that I went out and bought Sokal's book about the whole scandal, which came out a few years afterward. He gives a lot of the background, and reveals a lot of his motivations.

Despite the fact that pretty much all the people calling for more rigor in higher education fall on the right, and see all this post-modernist, deconstructionist, nonsense as highly political, and designed to strengthen the left - Sokal is in fact a man of the extreme left, who considers Naom Chomsky to be a reasonable guy. He thinks that this nonsense is distracting people from the truth, and if people were only more logical and scientific they would be good leftists. Or something.

He has a lot of strange bedfellows, imho...

986 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:38:01pm

re: #981 iceweasel

Got cancer but no insurance? Here’s enough to go buy some aspirin, a pint of vodka, bandages and a knife so you can cut your tumor out your own damn self.

Pure bullshit that assumes every single uninsured person in the US has cancer.

987 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:38:19pm

re: #979 Mich-again

Tell him I said GGF.

He's 58 years old, 6'3", 230 pounds, and can still toss a caber thirty feet. I think I'll let *you* tell him. He could stomp both of us into a stain.

988 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:41:03pm

re: #986 Mich-again

Pure bullshit that assumes every single uninsured person in the US has cancer.

Not at all.

989 jcm  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:41:07pm

re: #983 Mich-again

I prefer stuff that doesn't cost $10 for a 6-pack.

Good point!

My one pint tonight was $7, a 4 pack of Dogfish 90 minute IPA is $12... the 120 minute IPA, don't ask.

But I'm a one beer guy, I have one (what I call good) beer and be happy.

De gustibus non est disputandum - there can be no argument on matters of taste.

990 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:47:48pm

re: #986 Mich-again

Pure bullshit that assumes every single uninsured person in the US has cancer.

Here are the stats:

Lifetime Probability of Developing Cancer
The lifetime probability of being diagnosed with an invasive cancer is higher for men (44%) than for women (37%) (Table 13). However, because of the earlier median age of diagnosis for breast cancer compared with other major cancers, women have a slightly higher probability of developing cancer before age 60 years. It is noteworthy that these estimates are based on the average experience of the general population and may overestimate or underestimate individual risk because of differences in exposure and/or genetic susceptibility.

Link:

[Link: caonline.amcancersoc.org...]

So we can expect 40% of the uninsured population to be diagnosed with an invasive cancer so increase Ice's payout by 2.5. That gets you $70 instead of $28.

hat gets you three extra bottles of vodka, but it still means self surgery.

I know, I know, these pesky facts are annoying.

991 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:48:32pm

re: #988 iceweasel

Here’s enough to go buy some aspirin, a pint of vodka, bandages and a knife so you can cut your tumor out your own damn self.

First, you said this..

So, to quote someone else on this, he's saying that if each and every one of the U.S. taxpayers donated $10 to this fund, we could provide $28 worth of care each yer to the 50 million people who are uninsured.

OK, I'll add it up. Aspirin: $5. Vodka: $5, Bandages: $10. Kinife: $10. Thats $20 give or take. Maybe its $28 where you live. But your figure of $28 for the products for each of 50 million people assumes you need that $28 for each of the 50 million people which means you think every single one of the 50 million uninsured people has cancer.

Truth is its more like 1 in 2,000 people.

992 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:48:41pm

re: #978 austin_blue

the anwer is yes

993 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:51:00pm

re: #992 beens21

the anwer is yes

Wow. Just wow. That liver could have gone to a deserving young person who could have given something back in the future.

Wow.

994 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:51:31pm

re: #991 Mich-again

See Austin_blue at 990.

995 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:52:01pm

re: #990 austin_blue

How do you figure 466 out of 10,000 equals 40%? What are you drinking?

996 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:52:59pm

re: #994 iceweasel

See Austin_blue at 990.

Ha. You cite another bullshit statistic. Did you even go to the link to see what it said?

997 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:53:55pm

re: #991 Mich-again

BTW, should I point out here that you said this?

Aspirin: $5. Vodka: $5, Bandages: $10. Kinife: $10. Thats $20 give or take. Maybe its $28 where you live.

It's 30 dollars anywhere, by your own math.

998 beens21  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:55:01pm

re: #972 austin_blue

so whole foods does what for its employees? pls explain

999 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:56:02pm

re: #997 iceweasel


True. But it doesn't change my point that your numbers assume every single uninsured person has cancer.

And I was wrong also about the 466 per 10,000 figure. It is 466 per 100,000.

1000 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:56:47pm

re: #996 Mich-again

Ha. You cite another bullshit statistic. Did you even go to the link to see what it said?

Dude. You're being belligerent and you're adding 10 + 10 +10 and coming up with 20.

I think maybe you need to calm down a little before doing any more adding...or claiming other people's posts are 'bullshit'.

1001 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 10:59:38pm

re: #995 Mich-again

How do you figure 466 out of 10,000 equals 40%? What are you drinking?

Why are you being a Willfully Ignorant Wingnut?

Read it again:

Lifetime Probability of Developing Cancer

The lifetime probability of being diagnosed with an invasive cancer is higher for men (44%) than for women (37%) (Table 13). However, because of the earlier median age of diagnosis for breast cancer compared with other major cancers, women have a slightly higher probability of developing cancer before age 60 years. It is noteworthy that these estimates are based on the average experience of the general population and may overestimate or underestimate individual risk because of differences in exposure and/or genetic susceptibility.

Link:

[Link: caonline.amcancersoc.org...]

1002 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 11:01:38pm

re: #1000 iceweasel

You used an inflammatory example to demonstrate your point that even if every single taxpayer gave $10 it couldn't begin to treat uninsured cancer patients but your analysis assumed that every single uninsured person in the country had cancer. And I'm being belligerent. Ha.

1003 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 11:03:47pm

re: #998 beens21

so whole foods does what for its employees? pls explain

Please read the link. Whole Foods actually takes pretty good care of its employees, but the demographic for their health care costs swings way to the low side of other businesses. Young cohort. High turnover.

1004 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 11:05:02pm

re: #1002 Mich-again

You used an inflammatory example

It's hyperbolic. You know. Satire? The point isn't that every uninsured person has cancer, obviously. The point is to mock Mackey for suggesting that individuals are going to contribute, voluntarily, enough to cover the medical expenses of the tens of millions who are insured--regardless of what illness they have.

Surely a humourless and belligerent wingnut ought to be able to grasp that?

1005 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 11:07:17pm

re: #1004 iceweasel

The point is to mock Mackey for suggesting that individuals are going to contribute, voluntarily, enough to cover the medical expenses of the tens of millions who are UNinsured--regardless of what illness they have.

PIMF.

1006 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 11:08:12pm

re: #1004 iceweasel

It's hyperbolic. You know. Satire? The point isn't that every uninsured person has cancer, obviously. The point is to mock Mackey for suggesting that individuals are going to contribute, voluntarily, enough to cover the medical expenses of the tens of millions who are insured--regardless of what illness they have.

Surely a humourless and belligerent wingnut ought to be able to grasp that?

You know what? This is pointless, isn't it? I think I'll go coo over a baby elephant. Please join me. Sanity may prevail.

1007 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 11:08:13pm

re: #1004 iceweasel

It's hyperbolic. You know. Satire?

Yeah yeah yeah. It wasn't BS, it was Satire. Whatever.

1008 The Left  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 11:10:15pm

re: #1006 austin_blue

You know what? This is pointless, isn't it? I think I'll go coo over a baby elephant. Please join me. Sanity may prevail.

I'm coming with you. There is something deeply wrong here-- in terms of an irony deficiency, sheer belligerence, and reading incomprehension.
Freaky.

1009 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 14, 2009 11:17:29pm

re: #1006 austin_blue


From the link you provided, the rate of cancer death triples after age 69. Not that that makes it any easier on anyone who loses a loved one.

1010 Aye Pod  Sat, Aug 15, 2009 7:16:00am

re: #985 harpsicon

I adored this so much that I went out and bought Sokal's book about the whole scandal, which came out a few years afterward. He gives a lot of the background, and reveals a lot of his motivations.

Despite the fact that pretty much all the people calling for more rigor in higher education fall on the right, and see all this post-modernist, deconstructionist, nonsense as highly political, and designed to strengthen the left - Sokal is in fact a man of the extreme left, who considers Naom Chomsky to be a reasonable guy. He thinks that this nonsense is distracting people from the truth, and if people were only more logical and scientific they would be good leftists. Or something.

He has a lot of strange bedfellows, imho...

I'd need to know more about where he finds agreement with Chomsky to make a judgement on that. I agree with him on certain things myself, while disagreeing strongly with much of his political thought. But at least he believes in an objective reality against which things can be tested to see if they are actually true or not - for me, in this context, that's the main thing!

I've been noticing that right wing religious nutcases are beginning to see that they can make pomo work for them too. 'You scientists have your story about the creation- that's fine - we don't have a problem with that but why won't you let us tell our story too? You want to privilege your narrative above all others - is that it?'

1011 [deleted]  Sat, Aug 15, 2009 3:45:04pm

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