1 | reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:04:23pm |
Need my foil hat before watching this!
Can't be too careful...///
2 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:05:53pm |
Fascism results: Salute!
"hey, it works!"
4 | CommonCents Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:06:52pm |
Looks to me like Obama is saying "no questions, please" as he pushes the little inquisitor down.
/
5 | CommonCents Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:03pm |
re: #3 GCM29
Clearly he is trying to gain her knowledge.
Wouldn't he need to have his fingers split around her ear to use the Vulcan method?
6 | Honorary Yooper Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:15pm |
Obviously Obama is not an American citizen. He is an alien, and he is attempting a Vulcan mind meld in the photograph.
/Do I really need this sarc tag?
7 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:17pm |
8 | Ben Hur Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:28pm |
re: #6 Honorary Yooper
Obviously Obama is not an American citizen. He is an alien, and he is attempting a Vulcan mind meld in the photograph.
/Do I really need this sarc tag?
Yes.
9 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:08:40pm |
Gah... you keep sucking me back in. Must work on report...
10 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:00pm |
Well, that's all the proof I need. Clearly this man is the worst embodiment of evil this world has ever seen.
/
11 | Honorary Yooper Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:22pm |
re: #8 Ben Hur
I guess. If you read it in the Weekly World News, it must be true.
12 | GCM29 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:23pm |
Seriously...since I registered this site has become a productivity thief.
13 | shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:37pm |
re: #7 DaddyG
Is it just me or does the Secret Service agent in that one look like he's asleep on his feet?
He has already been sucked dry by Obama-man's braindraining "Hand o' Doom".
14 | reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:09:40pm |
Another photo in that series.
How cool is that, for these kids?
16 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:10:01pm |
I don't see intimidation or mind-melding, I see him healing this poor child. Light-worker and all that.
//
17 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:10:37pm |
Dunn speaks about controlling the message with the press about 2:00 into this clip. Oops... How soon before she ends up under the bus?
re: #14 reine.de.toutVery cool. I don't care who he is if my kids got to be in a classroom with the President I'd tell them to be good and treasure the moment.
18 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:11:09pm |
re: #12 GCM29
Seriously...since I registered this site has become a productivity thief.
Just conform already!!
/ and grab some beer.
19 | Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:11:11pm |
re: #16 Guanxi88
I don't see intimidation or mind-melding, I see him healing this poor child. Light-worker and all that.
//
I heard he once cured a ham.
21 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:08pm |
re: #14 reine.de.tout
Another photo in that series.
How cool is that, for these kids?
They'll be talking about this for years. Why, years from now, they'll be telling their kids "Hey, you see President Obama there on TV? When I was a kid, he came and visited me at my school."
22 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:16pm |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I heard he once cured a ham.
That's a myth but he is going to allow us to smoke hams now. /
23 | shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:38pm |
What has truly happened in this picture is that the unfortunate child has an Obama-shaped growth coming out the top of her head. At the time this photograph was taken, the President was hundreds of miles away.
25 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:42pm |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I heard he once cured a ham.
Funny, I'd always heard him described as the Ham that smokes itself, in reference to his theatrical flair and fondness for Kools.
26 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:54pm |
re: #7 DaddyG
Heh. It's probably one of the few times they get to relax on duty. Keeping on eye on the kids is probably a pretty easy gig.
27 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:12:57pm |
re: #22 DaddyG
That's a myth but he is going to allow us to smoke hams now. /
I'm gonna need a bigger bong.
/
29 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:13:43pm |
re: #26 Killgore Trout
That's what I was thinking. Those guys have it tough...
30 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:14:05pm |
re: #14 reine.de.tout
Kids really seem to like him.
31 | dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:14:30pm |
Of course it's laughable that Obama meeting with school children is anything other than super cool to meet the prez and get out of class for an assembly.
I'm more concerned about the concerted effort of the WH to forcefully delegitimize a media outlet merely because it's critical of them. It seems unprecedented and very Chaves-like.
32 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:14:33pm |
"Obama catches H1N1 Cooties from touching girls."
33 | Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:14:45pm |
re: #27 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm gonna need a bigger bong.
/
Get me 8" of cardboard tubing, some aluminum foil and some rubber bands!
/the Macgyver smoker
34 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:15:13pm |
35 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:15:21pm |
It seems to me like the Man is trying to keep that little girl down.
36 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:16:03pm |
Vitter gearing up for a massive fail?
Vitter Alone In Silence Over Justice Who Refuses To Marry Biracial Couple
37 | freetoken Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:16:10pm |
re: #17 DaddyG
I commend her for being so transparent. Don't know why you think this is important... except that it is yet another "outrage" trying to make it to the top spot on the "outrage of the day" in the ugly-o-sphere.
Do you not believe that the previous Presidents and their staffs worked hard to make sure their administrations' spin was put on various issues and pieces of news?
38 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:16:39pm |
re: #31 dwells38
If I were the president I'd be visiting schools, scout camps, church picnics and every other kind of baby kissing, grandma hugging, kid teaching opportunity imaginable. ...and the country would probably be better off for my priorities.
39 | John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:17:10pm |
re: #35 Yashmak
It seems to me like the Man is trying to keep that little girl down.
As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I think he's curing "the King's evil".
40 | soundboard fez Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:17:19pm |
re: #14 reine.de.tout
Another photo in that series.
How cool is that, for these kids?
Mike Dukakis came to my school once and it wasn't very cool. But I was in high school by then and it was a couple years after he got waxed in the presidential election.
This looks way better.
41 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:17:39pm |
re: #39 John Neverbend
As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I think he's curing "the King's evil".
Scrofula is vanishingly rare. I think it's cooties, as another lizard suggested.
43 | Sharmuta Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:03pm |
re: #30 Killgore Trout
Kids really seem to like him.
Kids seemed to like President Bush too. They understand this is an important person for the country, and it's a treat for them to get this opportunity, regardless of grown-up politics.
You could tell Bush loved visiting the kids too, so I'm sure you're right it's special for the president too, and likely his most relaxing audience.
44 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:03pm |
re: #31 dwells38
It seems unprecedented and very Chaves-like.
No it's not. FOX is Obama's best friend keeping conservatives loony and deranged. There's no way in hell Fox News is going to be silenced.
45 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:08pm |
re: #40 soundboard fez
Mike Dukakis came to my school once and it wasn't very cool. But I was in high school by then and it was a couple years after he got waxed in the presidential election.
This looks way better.
Bet you were taller than Dukakis.
46 | arethusa Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:18pm |
re: #31 dwells38
Hugo Chavez actually shuts down radio and TV stations he doesn't like. There's a big difference.
47 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:31pm |
re: #34 erraticsphinx
Re Fox:
Somebody on lgf did a nice post analyzing the distinction between media bias and having an agenda. If I wasn't a computer moron, I could find it for the group.
As for cooties - there's a cure?
48 | SpaceJesus Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:18:59pm |
stalkerblog is peddling the conspiracy that obama didn't go to columbia
49 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:11pm |
re: #40 soundboard fez
Mike Dukakis came to my school once and it wasn't very cool.
As I recall, Dukakis wasn't really ever described as 'very cool'.
50 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:35pm |
re: #37 freetoken
It isn't important other than the fact that the White House should be more careful in their public pronouncements that they control the news cycle. Everyone with an ounce of intelligence controls their own spin but they have been careless in bragging about how well they do it. That's gonna bite them in the butt given their stance regarding Fox news and how welcome they are at the White House.
I don't see professionals on either end of this peeing contest. The White House needs to put some grown ups in charge of communications that aren't enamored with their own gee whiz talents.
51 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:44pm |
re: #47 pdc_lgf
Re Fox:
Somebody on lgf did a nice post analyzing the distinction between media bias and having an agenda. If I wasn't a computer moron, I could find it for the group.
As for cooties - there's a cure?
Circle, circle, dot dot, now you have a cootie shot?
/
52 | Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:19:52pm |
I'm glad the POTUS has time for these publicity shoots.
54 | Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:20:20pm |
re: #49 Yashmak
As I recall, Dukakis wasn't really ever described as 'very cool'.
Not cool? But he rode in a tank!
55 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:20:37pm |
re: #42 Ben Hur
I've met Reagan and Clinton.
They finally got the restraining order in place by Bush 2 huh? /
56 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:20:43pm |
re: #52 Spare O'Lake
It's not like our previous president was in elementary school classrooms cause he was so busy.
Right?
57 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:21:24pm |
re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Not cool? But he rode in a tank!
Yeah, I remember that. I think it's what got him stripped of any 'very cool' label he might ever have had. Not that he rode in the tank, but that he looked like such a goofball doing so.
58 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:21:51pm |
re: #56 erraticsphinx
It's not like our previous president was in elementary school classrooms cause he was so busy.
Right?
9/11 happened when Bush was reading a children's book to a class. Obama should be more careful. ///
59 | Soundboard Fez Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:05pm |
re: #49 Yashmak
As I recall, Dukakis wasn't really ever described as 'very cool'.
I dunno. The swarthy chest, the bushy eyebrows, his command behind the wheel of an armored combat vehicle ... The Duke was a man's man. /s
60 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:37pm |
re: #58 DaddyG
9/11 happened when Bush was reading a children's book to a class. Obama should be more careful. ///
Heh. Yep, I hear the baddies time their attacks to coincide with these things.
61 | John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:38pm |
re: #31 dwells38
I'm more concerned about the concerted effort of the WH to forcefully delegitimize a media outlet merely because it's critical of them. It seems unprecedented and very Chaves-like.
As the article mentioned, so far this has only helped Fox News.
62 | freetoken Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:48pm |
re: #48 SpaceJesus
stalkerblog is peddling the conspiracy that obama didn't go to columbia
Some no doubt think "columbia" isn't even a school...
63 | shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:50pm |
64 | dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:22:51pm |
MSNBC has nothing but left-leaning hosts some of which are obviously peddling unfair characterizations of conservatives and their intents. That doesn't cause me to say they aren't a legitimate news organization.
Shawn Hannity doesn't tell Fox News what news to cover as I'm sure Rachel Maddow doesn't either over at MSNBC.
And those who say Chaves actually does close media outlets evidently do not realize how it started there. It was first a war of accusations and words just like this.
65 | John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:23:22pm |
re: #41 Guanxi88
Scrofula is vanishingly rare. I think it's cooties, as another lizard suggested.
I'm a bit behind the times. When Ojoe talks about Whigs, I think of Plantagenet Palliser and Mr. Mildmay.
66 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:23:31pm |
re: #48 SpaceJesus
Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.
Lol
67 | Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:23:47pm |
re: #57 Yashmak
Yeah, I remember that. I think it's what got him stripped of any 'very cool' label he might ever have had. Not that he rode in the tank, but that he looked like such a goofball doing so.
He forgot he had the mic running so they heard him making the engine noises and going "BLAM BLAM BLAM...KABOOM!" as he drove around.
68 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:09pm |
re: #63 imp_62
Smoked lol.
If I can't pwn fellow Lizards who can I pwn? (I'm gonna have to watch my back Ben Hur seems like the revenge served cold type).
69 | John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:36pm |
re: #62 freetoken
Some no doubt think "columbia" isn't even a school...
Of course he didn't go there. The fact that two of my colleagues who attended Columbia actually remember him just proves that they are hallucinating and should take extended leave from the office.//
70 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:39pm |
re: #67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
He forgot he had the mic running so they heard him making the engine noises and going "BLAM BLAM BLAM...KABOOM!" as he drove around.
Sad thing is, I probably would've been doing exactly that, had I been in that position.
71 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:53pm |
re: #21 Guanxi88
They'll be talking about this for years. Why, years from now, they'll be telling their kids "Hey, you see President Obama there on TV? When I was a kid, he came and visited me at my school."
Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.
72 | freetoken Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:24:55pm |
re: #66 Killgore Trout
Dude... everybody knows he was on Tau Ceti at that time!
/get with the program...
73 | Sharmuta Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:25:06pm |
re: #66 Killgore Trout
Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.
Lol
I wonder if Fox's source was Chicken Kiev.
74 | Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:25:07pm |
re: #62 freetoken
Some no doubt think "columbia" isn't even a school...
Some are probably wondering about this unexplored Central American connection.
/
75 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:25:08pm |
re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar
Walter L. Newton has a point: this is getting seriously serious.
As for you, Cannadian Club Akbar, either you are being cruel to be kind - or just being cruel.
I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy the agony these cooties are causing me. It's comparable to - but worse than - staring at that photo of Mr. Dukakis in the tank. He looked like Rick Moranis in Revenge of The Nerds. I got taunted for days at work for kinda-sorta defending the guy.
... Nobody knows the trouble I've seen, ...
76 | DaddyG Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:25:47pm |
re: #71 Shiplord Kirel
Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.
I am jealous! Of course in 1956 I was a decade shy of being 1.
77 | Crimsonfisted Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:02pm |
He is probing the brain for skeletal girth before he eats it.
I could be wrong.
78 | William of Orange Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:12pm |
Must be a Midas touch.
Ain't it great to wind up the right wing kooks.
79 | Sharmuta Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:32pm |
re: #72 freetoken
Dude... everybody knows he was on Tau Ceti at that time!
/get with the program...
He was "possibly" spending time with the weather underground. That was the pre-election kook-fodder, anyways. Interesting it's being revived.
81 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:35pm |
re: #64 dwells38
MSNBC has nothing but left-leaning hosts some of which are obviously peddling unfair characterizations of conservatives and their intents. That doesn't cause me to say they aren't a legitimate news organization.
Shawn Hannity doesn't tell Fox News what news to cover as I'm sure Rachel Maddow doesn't either over at MSNBC.
And those who say Chaves actually does close media outlets evidently do not realize how it started there. It was first a war of accusations and words just like this.
You may not say it, but the administration has spoken, and I think this is a lesson to those who think they can continue to oppose his policies.
82 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:26:43pm |
re: #71 Shiplord Kirel
Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.
I'd never shut up about something that cool. I saw David Byrne on the street once, said hello, and still haven't stopped boring people with this brush with greatness.
83 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:27:15pm |
re: #71 Shiplord Kirel
Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.
Lucky guy. If I had to point to one person I've always idolized, it would be him. The volume of his life experience, his accomplishments (and failures!), man oh man what an incredible individual.
84 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:27:54pm |
re: #31 dwells38
Of course it's laughable that Obama meeting with school children is anything other than super cool to meet the prez and get out of class for an assembly.
I'm more concerned about the concerted effort of the WH to forcefully delegitimize a media outlet merely because it's critical of them. It seems unprecedented and very Chaves-like.
This is a case of a commercial news network reporting on itself, something that causes me to be even more critical in assessing it.
85 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:28:12pm |
re: #82 Guanxi88
I'd never shut up about something that cool. I saw David Byrne on the street once, said hello, and still haven't stopped boring people with this brush with greatness.
No, really, if I'd ever met Churchill in any way, shape, manner or form, I'd put it on my resume, business cards, etc. and wear t-shirts to inform mere mortals of the fact.
86 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:28:54pm |
re: #64 dwells38
Fox News was chief cheerleader and pom-pom giver outer at the Tea Parties.
It was quite shameful and it made them, in my eyes, not a legitimate news organization but rather an opinion station.
I don't think anyone wants them shut down, just relegated to the fringes of society (like their evening lineup).
87 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:28:57pm |
re: #31 dwells38
Yeah poor Fox, getting called on endlessly lying and promoting craziness.
88 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:29:06pm |
re: #85 Guanxi88
No, really, if I'd ever met Churchill in any way, shape, manner or form, I'd put it on my resume, business cards, etc. and wear t-shirts to inform mere mortals of the fact.
No joke. I'd start every conversation with "Have I told you about the time Churchill shook my hand?".
89 | Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:29:28pm |
re: #56 erraticsphinx
It's not like our previous president was in elementary school classrooms cause he was so busy.
Right?
THEY DID IT TOO!
Oh brother.
90 | shutdown Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:30:06pm |
re: #85 Guanxi88
No, really, if I'd ever met Churchill in any way, shape, manner or form, I'd put it on my resume, business cards, etc. and wear t-shirts to inform mere mortals of the fact.
Hmmm. I used to walk by Donald Trump on my way to the office. He was outside Trump Tower putting little Ivanka on the school bus. I tried to say hello to him once but his bodyguard wasn't so interested in making the introduction. True story.
91 | John Neverbend Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:30:25pm |
re: #71 Shiplord Kirel
Very true. When I was 6 years old (in 1956), none other than Winston honest-to-God Churchill himself came to our school and spoke to us and even shook my little hand.
One of my earliest memories is watching Churchill's funeral on black and white television.
When you saw him, did he tell you the Stanley Baldwin joke or advocate the study of Latin and Greek?
92 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:31:30pm |
re: #89 Spare O'Lake
Uh, I don't think that was the point of what I said.
I wasn't attacking Bush for his visits, every president should/has done them.
So you should have the same standard for Obama.
But go ahead.
93 | Kragar Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:31:54pm |
re: #82 Guanxi88
I'd never shut up about something that cool. I saw David Byrne on the street once, said hello, and still haven't stopped boring people with this brush with greatness.
I almost got run over by Weird Al while walking thru a parking lot. Plus I met Rikki Rocket (or Rick as my mom called him) from Poison when he came over to parent's place
94 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:31:56pm |
re: #86 erraticsphinx
Fox News was chief cheerleader and pom-pom giver outer at the Tea Parties.
It was quite shameful and it made them, in my eyes, not a legitimate news organization but rather an opinion station.I don't think anyone wants them shut down, just relegated to the fringes of society (like their evening lineup).
"cutting legs off"? "bringing knives to a gunfight"?
Just the tone of the article makes on queasy. No wonder they are being called out for going beyond being critical and going over the top with unsubstantiated fear and hate mongering.
95 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:32:07pm |
re: #90 imp_62
Hmmm. I used to walk by Donald Trump on my way to the office. He was outside Trump Tower putting little Ivanka on the school bus. I tried to say hello to him once but his bodyguard wasn't so interested in making the introduction. True story.
Now him, I did meet. He happened to be in the Windows of the World restaraunt atop the WTC in 1989, when I ate there. I got his autograph on a napkin.
96 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:32:10pm |
re: #91 John Neverbend
One of my earliest memories is watching Churchill's funeral on black and white television.
When you saw him, did he tell you the Stanley Baldwin joke or advocate the study of Latin and Greek?
I saw the repeat of the funeral in 1966, during the summer sweeps.
97 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:32:38pm |
re: #85 Guanxi88
No, really, if I'd ever met Churchill in any way, shape, manner or form, I'd put it on my resume, business cards, etc. and wear t-shirts to inform mere mortals of the fact.
I do bring it up once in a while;)
Our teacher, Mrs. Rice, told us he was the greatest man in the world and threatened us with hideous consequences if we misbehaved in any way. It was some time before I understood just how important a person he was and how cool it really was to have met him.
98 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:33:15pm |
re: #96 Walter L. Newton
I saw the repeat of the funeral in 1966, during the summer sweeps.
I remember being really annoyed that none of my favorite cartoon shows were because of the JFK funeral on all the channels.
99 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:33:28pm |
re: #88 Yashmak
I'm with you, brother. Which might cause you to change your position.
I met Mayor Harold Washington. A remarkable man. He was already ailing with the heart problems which killed him, but he had a kind of Santa Klaus glow. A mixture of sweetness and intellect.
As for Fox. As the fellow said, Fox has crossed the line: they organize Tea Parties.
All the outlets are biased. Some more than others. But there truly is a difference here.
As for going after critics, isn't that what, say, President Truman did?
100 | arethusa Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:33:40pm |
re: #69 John Neverbend
Exactly, and the articles he wrote for the Columbia student paper were planted much later.
///
101 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:34:08pm |
re: #86 erraticsphinx
Fox News was chief cheerleader and pom-pom giver outer at the Tea Parties.
It was quite shameful and it made them, in my eyes, not a legitimate news organization but rather an opinion station.I don't think anyone wants them shut down, just relegated to the fringes of society (like their evening lineup).
You're right. It was nothing like that wall to wall coverage CNN gave the gay rights rally a week ago. Bad Fox, Bad.
//
102 | Yashmak Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:34:28pm |
re: #99 pdc_lgf
I'm with you, brother. Which might cause you to change your position.
I don't see why it would :)
103 | dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:34:46pm |
re: #86 erraticsphinx
Evidently covering the story equates in your mind to chief cheerleader and pom-pom giver
104 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:34:56pm |
re: #101 Walter L. Newton
But they didn't organize that rally.
105 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:37:10pm |
re: #103 dwells38
They didn't just "cover" the story. Glenn Beck's various fan clubs organized a big bunch of them. They were promoting for weeks and week, "Come on down! Every patriotic opposer of Obama is here!".
They weren't a neutral observer, but an active participant. Who has the video of the Fox host rallying the crowd for a tv shot?
106 | simoom Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:37:12pm |
re: #50 DaddyG
It isn't important other than the fact that the White House should be more careful in their public pronouncements that they control the news cycle. Everyone with an ounce of intelligence controls their own spin but they have been careless in bragging about how well they do it. That's gonna bite them in the butt given their stance regarding Fox news and how welcome they are at the White House.
I just don't get what folks are seeing in that clip. She's just participating in a postmortem on the campaign, shortly after the election (she was the Communications Director for OFA), describing why they used so much alternative media (fightthesmears, youtube videos of all events, etc) and preferred live events over the editing/editorial decisions of the sound-bite media.
How is that shocking or any different than others in the Obama campaign were saying in response to press questions about their robust alternative media strategy? I mean it's not like their use of additional mediums of getting out their message meant Obama was seriously curtailing tradition press conferences and interviews; isn't the Right's usual talking point here that he's doing too many and is overexposed?
107 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:37:22pm |
re: #100 arethusa
It was those traveling-back-in-time particles which keep breaking the super-collider. They were used to rewrite history. ... Yeah, that's the ticket.
108 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:37:35pm |
re: #104 pdc_lgf
But they didn't organize that rally.
So? How many times have news agencies arranged special reports. What's a special report but a hour or two of bias reporting, highlighting a subject. Oh, I know, no other news agency has ever produced a special report that is biased.
Sorry, my bad.
109 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:38:17pm |
re: #91 John Neverbend
One of my earliest memories is watching Churchill's funeral on black and white television.
When you saw him, did he tell you the Stanley Baldwin joke or advocate the study of Latin and Greek?
None of that. I remember being struck by how ruddy he was in appearance. I had only seen him on B&W television before that and, like many children of the time, I probably assumed that he was monochrome in real life. He asked me what my dad did with the USAF and when I named the squadron and wing, Mr. Churchill was able to reel off its WW2 history in a few seconds, as though from casual memory.
110 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:40:39pm |
re: #108 Walter L. Newton
Fox News' "special reports" last...all day. Every day.
112 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:41:18pm |
re: #108 Walter L. Newton
It's not your bad. You've made your point. News organizations select what to cover, and sometimes cross the line into shaping events. Like only covering town-hall meetings which got ugly.
But Fox promoted the Tea Parties. Aggressively.
113 | dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:41:55pm |
re: #105 erraticsphinx
Yes who has it? I would like to see how it is so beyond the pall that they are now no longer a legitimate news outlet and the TV version of Newsmax which of course will run with any old conspiracy such as birthers and the like without fact-checking and double sourcing.
114 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:42:17pm |
re: #110 erraticsphinx
Fox News' "special reports" last...all day. Every day.
Trying to understand where this is going - shall we just snub them, shun them, or do you propose that they just be frozen out by the WH, whose example should be followed by all other right-thinking news outlets?
Perhaps some other intervention you have in mind, or is it just griping?
115 | badger1970 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:43:07pm |
re: #105 erraticsphinx
OK, so Fox should have their FCC license pulled? It's one thing to call out a news outlet as being unfair, another one all together to encourage Fox competitors, who are friendly to the WH, to band together on one common message.
116 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:43:52pm |
re: #114 Guanxi88
I don't think they should be snubbed. Just treated like an opinion news outlet, not a legitimate news source.
Don't really see anything Chavez-like about that.
117 | dwells38 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:44:26pm |
re: #115 badger1970
Yes and the latter is downright creepy.
118 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:46:17pm |
re: #116 erraticsphinx
I don't think they should be snubbed. Just treated like an opinion news outlet, not a legitimate news source.
Don't really see anything Chavez-like about that.
Nor do I. So, to clarify, then, just ignored, by the WH and the legitimate press corps alike?
Secondly, if they're a purely opinion-driven outlet, I wonder what effect this would have on the public-service provisions of their broadcast licenses? Maybe there is, or will be, some action on that front.
Goodness knows, though, we have no cause for concern over anything Chavez-like at the FCC. There's certainly no sympathy for his regime and way of operating at ANY level of our government, and certainly not in the FCC.
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119 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:46:24pm |
re: #115 badger1970
Look, the WH is pretty much calling a spade a spade. I've watched Fox and they really do come across as a mouthpiece for the Republicans.
And that's all they're doing - calling a spade a spade. There's nothing nefarious or underhanded about it.
120 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:49:30pm |
re: #118 Guanxi88
Where is the sympathy for Chavez at the FCC?
Do tell.
But yes, they should be shunned by both the White House and legitimate news media.
121 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:51:24pm |
re: #120 erraticsphinx
Where is the sympathy for Chavez at the FCC?
Do tell.But yes, they should be shunned by both the White House and legitimate news media.
Mark Lloyd, Diversity Chief of the FCC;
122 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:53:20pm |
re: #120 erraticsphinx
But yes, they should be shunned by both the White House and legitimate news media.
Follow-up question, then:
Should FoxNews' exile from respectability be continued until such time as the White House determines that their content is more in line with their expectations, or would a simple groveliing apology suffice?
123 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:57:52pm |
124 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:58:02pm |
re: #115 badger1970
Correction: "And that's all they're doing - calling a spade a spade. "
Should read "And that's all the WH is doing - calling a spade a spade."
The ambiguity of what I wrote is one thing. The ugly double-entendre - entirely unintentional - belatedly occurred to me. My apologies.
Nobody should do anything about Fox. The WH is free to comment on what Fox does. Fox is free to continue behaving like a European-style media outlet, keeping its POV front and center.
125 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 12:58:30pm |
re: #121 Guanxi88
Mark Lloyd, Diversity Chief of the FCC;
[Video]
A bit more about this fellow:
[Link: www.americanprogress.org...]
re: #123 erraticsphinx
126 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:02:16pm |
re: #123 erraticsphinx
Thanks for that, but the poster's profile is a little interesting, don't you think?
re: #122 Guanxi88
What Fox chooses to do will be their own business decision.
Fine, pull it in from any other person who posted it. It was the first one I grabbed off Youtube.
Exclude the package, what about the content?
And as far as their business decision-making, I think this whole thing is good for both sides.
127 | erraticsphinx Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:03:59pm |
re: #126 Guanxi88
Thanks for the article and the video.
And yes, I suspect it will be a temporary boon for Fox News as conservatives flock to defend them.
I don't know about the long-term effects. We'll have to see.
128 | Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:05:06pm |
re: #127 erraticsphinx
Thanks for the article and the video.
And yes, I suspect it will be a temporary boon for Fox News as conservatives flock to defend them.
I don't know about the long-term effects. We'll have to see.
I've got a theory that there's some strategery in play here:
The WH would love to have the opposition to rally to, and be tainted by, the worst whackiness of Fox.
Fox would love to have more eyes on its commercials.
It's a win/win, really.
130 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:16:42pm |
Why is no one saving these poor children from being indoctrinated into socialism by the Presidents "koolaid touch" ™. Please wont someone think of the children?
131 | pdc_lgf Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:16:52pm |
re: #128 Guanxi88
I think the old saw "friends come and go; enemies accumulate" applies. For the WH, friends come and go. In any event the current POTUS will be gone in 3 or 7 years. For Fox, enemies accumulate.
132 | aagcobb Mon, Oct 19, 2009 1:34:23pm |
re: #6 Honorary Yooper
Obviously Obama is not an American citizen. He is an alien, and he is attempting a Vulcan mind meld in the photograph.
/Do I really need this sarc tag?
My nirther theory is that Stanley Ann Obama didn't go to Kenya as a pregnant teenager, but rather went to Cape Canaveral where she stowed away on a unmanned mercury spacecraft being test launched in September, 1961, and that she gave birth to Barack while in orbit, making him an ET, not a natural born citizen! NASA, of course, covered it all up, just like they cover up for the aliens who are abducting and probing real citizens. I have recalled memories of being probed dozens of times. /
133 | GCM29 Mon, Oct 19, 2009 2:49:58pm |
Fox is loving every minute of this nontroversy, I wish they would muzzle Beck but they aren't going to because he's getting them ratings. If I was Obama I wouldn't be on that network either. This is pretty common politics, Bush didn't appear all that often on MSNBC as I recall. MSNBC is a left leaning orangization, going so far as to have their dayside 'straight news anchors' fill in for the prime time hosts on Countdown, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews shows which are obviously leftist opinion programs. So, basically, if you're looking for news without slant you're probably going to be looking for a long time.
134 | kellygrrrl Mon, Oct 19, 2009 4:17:42pm |
Oh Noez! next he'll be sucking the brains out of Barfing Balloon Boy!