2 | Surabaya Stew Wed, Nov 18, 2009 10:48:21pm |
4 | freetoken Wed, Nov 18, 2009 10:51:38pm |
Waves pounding stoic rocks of eons gone by... never ceasing to demonstrate that the water, though solid not, wins in the end... but for now, water and rock work their duet, day in and day out, a type of harmony.
Speaking of harmony:
5 | freetoken Wed, Nov 18, 2009 10:53:04pm |
BTW, there are only 35 more shopping days till Christmas. I actually got some of my shopping done today, for stuff I will ship overseas.
A reminder to those shipping overseas - if you are sending to an APO or FPO you may be running out of time sooner than you think.
7 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 18, 2009 10:55:10pm |
8 | BryanS Wed, Nov 18, 2009 10:55:31pm |
10 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 18, 2009 10:56:05pm |
11 | ghazidor Wed, Nov 18, 2009 10:57:16pm |
Ah, peace and quiet, I needed this after being downpage. Let the remaining warriors complete their battle in solitude.
12 | checked08 Wed, Nov 18, 2009 10:59:12pm |
WOW, lgf certainly has a lot of passion. The last thread put me in the mood for Sagan
And LOL, forgot about this one
13 | Liberally Conservative Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:02:57pm |
Man, an open thread tonight after the previous thread is like going to sleep in fresh sheets ^_^.
14 | BryanS Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:04:06pm |
re: #12 checked08
WOW, lgf certainly has a lot of passion. The last thread put me in the mood for Sagan
[Video]
The Onion one brings back memories of the last presidential campaign...fun stuff.
15 | Bagua Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:04:22pm |
Wow, the poor bird has been washed away!
So sad...
16 | ghazidor Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:04:35pm |
17 | ghazidor Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:14:31pm |
18 | BryanS Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:18:44pm |
It's a cover, but one of the best I've heard of the song. The guy has some great sounding covers of a number of songs.
19 | simoom Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:18:52pm |
20 | BryanS Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:21:06pm |
21 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:21:33pm |
22 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:22:59pm |
re: #15 Bagua
Nah...it's just getting cleaned. Should be in the spin-cycle by now.
23 | Bagua Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:31:27pm |
Beneath some fallen leaves;
On the forest floor,
Lies a bird; silent.
Chirping no more...
The once esteemed beauty
Of his golden feathers,
Are now washed away,
[...]
Things get harder;
Worse than they were before,
More things die,
And drop to the ground.
Things vanish away,
Without making a sound,
And while they are now happy,
We can not ignore,
The bird we left there to die,
James V. Harker, Jr.
24 | ghazidor Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:34:12pm |
25 | ghazidor Wed, Nov 18, 2009 11:44:11pm |
26 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 12:14:17am |
Well isn't that nice, they all got the same script from the biotech firm
Genentech/Roche:
(Quotes are from the congressional record)
Joe Wilson
I wish we could remove this provision from this fatally flawed piece of legislation and consider it separately because it would pass with the kind of overwhelming bi-partisan support that Americans across the country wish to see.
Jerry Moran
I wish we could remove these specific provisions from H.R. 3962 and consider them separately because it would most likely pass with the kind of overwhelming bipartisan support.
Kay Granger
I wish we could remove this provision from this bill so that I could vote for it on its own. I believe that if this provision was considered on its own it would pass the House of Representatives with bipartisan support.
Lee Terry
I wish we could remove this provision from this fatally flawed piece of legislation and consider it separately because it would pass with the kind of overwhelming bi-partisan support that Americans across the country wish to see.
Ted Poe
I wish we could remove this provision from this fatally flawed piece of legislation and consider it separately because it would pass with the kind of overwhelming bi-partisan support that Americans across the country wish to see.
Blaine Luetkemeyer
I wish we could remove this provision from this fatally flawed piece of legislation and consider it separately because it would pass with the kind of overwhelming bi-partisan support that Americans across the country wish to see.
Lynn Jenkins
I wish we could remove this provision from this fatally flawed piece of legislation and consider it separately because it would pass with the kind of overwhelming bipartisan support that Americans across the country wish to see.
Heath Shuler
I wish we could consider this as a stand-alone bill because it would pass with the kind of overwhelming bi-partisan support that Americans across the country wish to see.
---Joe Wilson
One of the reasons I have long supported the U.S. biotechnology industry is that it is a homegrown success story that has been an engine of job creation in this country.
Kay Granger
One of the reasons I have long supported the U.S. biotechnology industry is that it is a homegrown success story that has been an engine of job creation in this country.
Lee Terry
One of the reasons I have long supported the U.S. biotechnology industry is that it is a homegrown success story that has been an engine of job creation in this country.
Ted Poe
One of the reasons I have long supported the U.S. biotechnology industry is that it is a homegrown success story that has been an engine of job creation in this country.
Blaine Luetkemeyer
One of the reasons I have long supported the U.S. biotechnology industry is that it is a homegrown success story that has been an engine of job creation in this country.
Lynn Jenkins
One of the reasons I have long supported the U.S. biotechnology industry is that it is a homegrown success story that has been an engine of job creation in this country.
Heath Shuler
One of the reasons I have long supported the U.S. biotechnology industry is that it is a homegrown success story that has been an engine of job creation in this country and in my home state of North Carolina.
27 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 12:17:07am |
re: #26 ausador
Wow...well, I'm convicned. Insurance companies are evil (unless they fall in line with 0bama) and we should nationalize 1/6th of the economy.
//
28 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 12:24:09am |
What does a biotech firm have to do with insurance?
I'm not talking about friggin healthcare, I'm talking about our representatives acting like paid shills for pharma companies. I don't happen to like it very much.
29 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 12:27:41am |
re: #28 ausador
Oh...my bad.
Opposed to 0bamacare = paid pharma shill.
Are we still gonna try our hand with opposed to cap & trade = Big oil shill?
30 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 12:41:39am |
Both Republicans and Democrats made statements from their version of the script, they both had things they were "advised" to say, and by the same company. So you are completely wrong when you say that this is about opposition to the Obama reform mess. The Republican version had some anti-HR3962 statements along with other statements that said nothing about the bill, one of which you might notice I used above. The Democrat version had statements that were pro-HR3962 along with other statements that had nothing to do with the bill.
Check your facts before accusing me of bias please.
Again, when I posted this I had absolutely no thought in my mind about healthcare whatsoever, none. I was disgusted at how openly both sides were shilling for a campaign donor drug company!
31 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:03:09am |
From the original NYT article...
E-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that the lobbyists drafted one statement for Democrats and another for Republicans.
The lobbyists, employed by Genentech and by two Washington law firms, were remarkably successful in getting the statements printed in the Congressional Record under the names of different members of Congress.
Genentech, a subsidiary of the Swiss drug giant Roche, estimates that 42 House members picked up some of its talking points — 22 Republicans and 20 Democrats, an unusual bipartisan coup for lobbyists.
32 | Bagua Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:04:35am |
re: #29 Fenway_Nation
Oh...my bad.
Opposed to 0bamacare = paid pharma shill.
Are we still gonna try our hand with opposed to cap & trade = Big oil shill?
It is interesting how advocating for either industry is considered to "shill" something derogatory.
In all of human industry is there any business that has done more to ease human suffering worldwide, cure illness, eradicate disease and improve human quality of life than "big" Pharma with its miraculous research and development of new medications?
Why yes, the other "big" and evil industry for which people "shill": Big Oil, because of their amazing advances the standard of living for billions worldwide is the highest in human history, the ability to feed the human population is likewise the best in history, our ability to heat, clothe, manufacturate, transport, and on and on are all thanks to Big Oil. Our entire modern existence is made possible by their efforts and industry.
Both of these industries deserve the gratitude and admiration of the human race, and yet they are the most demonised by the Radical Left Wing.
Who else is demonised by the international Leftist agenda? America of course, which nation has saved the world from domination in two world wars, spread aid, education, medicine and food to every corner of the globe in quantities that no other nation can even come close.
I see a pattern here. For my part, I am happy to "shill" for the good guys who alleviate human suffering and very suspicious of those who would demonise them.
33 | Sergeant Major Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:06:58am |
California: State regulators pass a law banning the sale of large televisions that consume too much energy. Rumor has it it's going to be "deficit neutral". ///
35 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:11:23am |
Oh, man...
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
36 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:11:25am |
37 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:11:52am |
re: #32 Bagua
Right, because after all it isn't as if we elect these people to represent us, their lowly constituents. We just send them to Washington to parrot whatever lines the person with the most campaign contributions and the best cocktail parties tells them to say. How silly of me to think otherwise.
38 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:14:29am |
re: #33 Sergeant Major
California: State regulators pass a law banning the sale of large televisions that consume too much energy. Rumor has it it's going to be "deficit neutral". ///
And thus the "Bootleg" TV smuggling rings were born...
39 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:14:37am |
re: #35 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wow! I was accosted by scientologists when I was in Australia. I thought they were mormons at first...after a few sentences in, I wished they were mormons...
40 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:17:19am |
re: #37 ausador
Jesus bald-headed christ on a pogo stick. I grew up in a blue state before moving out to another blue state...I'm trying to think of a time in my life when my 'representative' wasn't a gun-grabbing tan & spend grow-the-government (except for the military) lib...
You'll forgive me if I don't work up enough faux outrage for this nontreversey.
41 | Sergeant Major Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:18:09am |
re: #34 TheMatrix31
Yep is sure is...I thought I was reading someones practical joke...here it is: [Link: www.wired.com...]
42 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:18:38am |
re: #38 ausador
And thus the "Bootleg" TV smuggling rings were born...
Old-timey newsreel announcer voice:
'Meanwhile...Ness and his men speed towards another Capone speakeasy- with 30 big-screen plasma TVs!'
43 | Sergeant Major Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:19:00am |
re: #41 Sergeant Major
Yep
isit sure is...I thought I was reading someones practical joke...here it is: [Link: www.wired.com...]
44 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:19:14am |
re: #41 Sergeant Major
Oh I knew about this. I thought it had actually passed.
45 | Sergeant Major Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:20:53am |
Sorry everyone 2 tired to spell correctly and 2 lazy 2 use spell check good night all.
46 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:25:17am |
Heh...
Tom retired in his early 50’s and started a second career. However, even though he loved his new job, he just couldn’t seem to get to work on time. Every day, he was 5, 10, 15 minutes late. Finally, one day, his boss called him into the office for a talk.
“Tom, I must tell you, I truly like your work ethic, you do a bang-up job, but being late for work nearly every day is quite annoying to me as well as your fellow workers.”
Tom replied, “Yes, sir, I know. I’m sorry, but I am working on it.”
“That’s what I like to hear,” his boss said. “However, the fact that you consistently come to work late does puzzle me because I understand that you retired from the United States Marine Corps, and they have some pretty rigid rules about tardiness. Isn’t that correct?”
“Yes. I did retire from the Marine Corps, and I’m mighty proud of it!” said Tom.
“Well, what did they say when you came in late?” asked his boss.
“They said, ‘Good morning, General’.”
47 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:32:12am |
Dogfish Head/Sierra Nevada collaborator session ale, A++++++
all you beer fiends who don't live here, you better come visit and drink yourselves blind
48 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:38:09am |
Oh great, that punk David Plouffe is on Carson Faily.
49 | SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:38:40am |
re: #37 ausador
Right, because after all it isn't as if we elect these people to represent us, their lowly constituents. We just send them to Washington to parrot whatever lines the person with the most campaign contributions and the best cocktail parties tells them to say. How silly of me to think otherwise.
The only thing I see wrong with the above is the outright parroting of talking points, rather than actual thought, on display by these representatives.
Apart from that, it's difficult to muster any outrage. Lobbying is a large occupation, and this group seems to have been particularly successful at getting their message out, but it isn't a zero-sum game; anyone who's interested can play. More likely, it's a response from someone who doesn't care for the message, but isn't interested enough in the issue to get peddle their own message effectively.
And to be blunt, demanding that representatives respond to their constituents - rather than to organized groups that can effectively organize and present their ideas and agendas - will almost inevitably lead to a populist destruction of fundamental liberties. The mob is stupid and self-serving, and thinks nothing of tearing up the Constitution in order to satisfy it's short-term, immediate cravings for satisfaction. One look at Beck or Limbaugh gives a telling glimpse at how mob mentality works, and it isn't pretty.
51 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:43:10am |
re: #50 Fenway_Nation
The Obama campaign manager on Carson Daly's late night show.
52 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:49:32am |
re: #51 TheMatrix31
Lemme know how many times the phrase 'failed policies of the last 8 years' comes up.
53 | Bagua Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:54:28am |
re: #37 ausador
Right, because after all it isn't as if we elect these people to represent us, their lowly constituents. We just send them to Washington to parrot whatever lines the person with the most campaign contributions and the best cocktail parties tells them to say. How silly of me to think otherwise.
I wasn't really responding to what you posted, rather, the idea of "big Pharma" and "big Oil" and the idea of "shilling" for them as opposed to advocating.
Politicians are certainly contemptible, but if they spend some of their time advocating for these two vital and noble industries then at least they are doing something valuable with their time.
As far as the issues, I would hope they take advice from the industry as it is they who know what is best for them. Better they should hear from the experts and supporting these industries is supporting the advancement of mankind.
54 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:57:25am |
re: #52 Fenway_Nation
You think I'm watching that crap? I switched it to Three's Company.
55 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 1:59:59am |
re: #54 TheMatrix31
You think I'm watching that crap? I switched it to Three's Company.
You were born about 20 years to late.
56 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:01:05am |
re: #54 TheMatrix31
You think I'm watching that crap? I switched it to Three's Company.
Oooo! Oooo! What's Crissy wearing!?//
57 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:02:30am |
re: #56 Fenway_Nation
Oooo! Oooo! What's Crissy wearing!?//
I wonder if it is the episode where there is a misunderstanding.
//
58 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:10:18am |
59 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:21:26am |
Geez, the anti-Israel crap never stops does it?
I cannot believe that people actually think that this is a valid interpretation of the situation, even if it is just a "cartoon" (propaganda).
60 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:22:49am |
re: #59 ausador
Geez, the anti-Israel crap never stops does it?
I cannot believe that people actually think that this is a valid interpretation of the situation, even if it is just a "cartoon" (propaganda).
[Link: i603.photobucket.com...]
Makes ya wonder why they didn't show the wall Egypt has up to keep the Palis out.
61 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:42:19am |
Well. Last night was fucking terrible.
How are things today?
62 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:44:22am |
re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well. Last night was fucking terrible.
How are things today?
Why was last night terrible? We figured out a health care bill. (actually, I bailed early, so not sure what happened after I left)
63 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:47:43am |
re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar
Oh, the poll thread was terrible. Don't go there.
It was sad, it was insulting, both sides of the debate got out of line.
"Fargin' ice-hole" terms were being thrown back and forth.
Seriously, don't go and look.
I thought it was a sad, community changing night.
64 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:49:49am |
re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If someone has to resort to name calling, that might be a sign to step away from the computer and take a breath.
65 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:51:06am |
re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did Charles step in? He usually does when people get personal with their comments.
66 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:54:42am |
re: #64 Cannadian Club Akbar
It was flying.
"On the good ship, LGF
Please don't tell folks, to fuck themselves
And we all can play
And have threads on the Milky Way..."
67 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:55:37am |
re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar
I played the "Brave Sir Robin" before he did, if he did.
69 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:02:03am |
re: #68 TheMatrix31
It was pretty bad.
I saw you and Ice and Jimmah going at it. I bailed not long after that.
70 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:03:31am |
re: #69 Cannadian Club Akbar
It got worse. I suggest going to read it, honestly. It was a pretty big deal.
71 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:03:58am |
2010- Year of the (Iron) Horse?
The National Railroad Historical Society will be holding it's annual convention in Scranton, PA- home of Steamtown and Electric city trolley museum in June 2010. Aside from restoring Boston & Maine 4-6-2 #3713 (a project I'd love to see completed post-haste!) and Delaware Lackawana & Western 'Mogul' 2-6-0 #565 some of the big steam likely to be up and running for the event would include:
Canadian Pacific 4-6-2 'Pacific' #2317
Canadian National 2-8-2 'Mikado' #3254
And most likely Reading & Northern's 4-6-2 'Pacific' #425, which isn't owned by Steamtown, but by the nearby Reading & Northern Railroad, which sometimes uses it on excursion trains out of Jim Thorpe, PA.
[also- while having nothing to do with steam, nearby Delaware-Lackawana railroad operates a fleet of vintage diesels built by Alco- which shut it's doors 40 years ago- in revenue service].
North of the border, look for Canadian Pacific to trot out 4-6-4 'Hudson' #2816 for the 2010 Winter Games in Vancouver. It would also be something of a no-brainer to have the West Coast Railway Association's 'Royal Hudson' streamlined 4-6-2 #2860 to make an appearence as well.
On the other side of the Rockies, Canadian National U1-f 4-8-2 #6060 (sometimes referred to as 'Bullet Nosed Betty') most likely won't be straying too far from her home in Stettler, AB, although the Rocky Mounatin Rail Society announced that they've secured funding to rebuild an additional 20 miles of track between Stettler and Donalda, AB.
So far, I think all but one of the working big steam locomotives I mentioned were made in Canada. In the very southeastern corner of the USA, the San Bernadino Railway Historical Society announced they their May 1, 2010 trip from LA Union Station to San Diego, CA behind Santa Fe 4-8-4 #3751 is still on.
Union Pacific will more than likely be using either 4-6-6-4 'Challenger' #3985 or 4-8-4 'Northern' #844 to haul passengers between Denver, CO and Cheyenne, WY for Cheyenne's Frontier Days from July 23-Aug 1, 2010.
The Grand Canyon Railroad and groups that operate locomotives like Pere Marquette 2-8-4 'Berkshire' #1225, Southern Pacific 'Daylight' 4-8-4 #4449, Spokane Portland & Seattle 'Northern' 4-8-4 #700, Nickel Plate 2-8-4 'Berkshire' #765 or Milwaukee Road 4-8-4 'Northern' #261 will likely operate to some extent in 2010, altho' no specific plans past Christmas have been announced as of yet.
72 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:05:12am |
re: #70 TheMatrix31
It got worse. I suggest going to read it, honestly. It was a pretty big deal.
Made me sad.
73 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:05:40am |
74 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:06:47am |
re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar
That bad?
Lets just say there are quite a few people who will be holding onto grudges for a while after that mess.
75 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:07:51am |
re: #74 ausador
People don't like being called traitors, funny how that works.
76 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:07:59am |
re: #74 ausador
Lets just say there are quite a few people who will be holding onto grudges for a while after that mess.
Maybe Charles should bust out the 24 hour ban stick. Just my opinion. His blog, his rules.
77 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:08:44am |
re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar
Maybe Charles should bust out the 24 hour ban stick. Just my opinion. His blog, his rules.
Hopefully he was getting laid or something and never even saw it.
78 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:10:26am |
re: #77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hopefully he was getting laid or something and never even saw it.
I'm pretty sure he goes over stuff every day. Especially when he knows he was away, if he was.
79 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:12:23am |
re: #71 Fenway_Nation
Addendum- although it may not constitute 'Big' steam, some of the following railways feature intermediate-sized steam locomotives hauling excursions a relatively short distance on a regular basis:
Texas State Railroad: Rusk, TX
80 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:14:11am |
re: #74 ausador
Not good for me, I hold onto grudges easily anyway. I never forget anything.
81 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:14:56am |
re: #75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
People don't like being called traitors, funny how that works.
Or having their family slandered, or their religion questioned, or having the f-word used on them 50 times, or being told to "shut up a**hole", etc, etc..
82 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:15:07am |
What I do find funny is people will go after each other on a subject and be in lock step on another.
83 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:15:18am |
re: #79 Fenway_Nation
Roanoke Va, You like the choo choos?
84 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:15:44am |
re: #75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
People don't like being called traitors, funny how that works.
I want those posts to stay exactly as they are- no cleaning up or editing. They should be a monument to a certain poster's hypocracy when they keep bitching and moaning about 'teH jingoisitc right' while he and he alone apparently decides what constitutes a 'true' and patriotic American.
86 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:19:08am |
re: #81 ausador
I admit, I'm guilty of some of that. But I never casted the stones first.
Passionate subject.
87 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:19:50am |
Yeah we better quit this train of thought before it starts in this thread...people are still going to be pissed off this morning.
88 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:22:09am |
re: #87 ausador
Yeah we better quit this train of thought before it starts in this thread...people are still going to be pissed off this morning.
Well, they can go back to the original thread and fight. Don't bring the rest of us down.
89 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:22:39am |
90 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:23:06am |
Okay, just saw these looking for a quote about people who live to argue. Didn't find it, but these are funny. The were listed on employee evaluations.
"Got a full 6-pack, but lacks the plastic thing to hold it all together"
"He has knack for making strangers immediately"
"When his IQ reaches 50, he should sell"
"If you see 2 people talking and one looks bored, he's the other one"
"Gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming"
"It's hard to believe that he beat out 1,000 other sperm"
"The wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead"
"If he were any more stupid, he'd have to be watered twice a week"
91 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:34:20am |
re: #89 Fenway_Nation
When I was a boy, my parents took me and my brothers and sisters to Cass Scenic Railroad... I was so excited.
Flippin' train didn't top 15 miles per hour... the most bored I have ever been in my life. Don't know what I was expecting, but AAARRRGGGHHH!
92 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:34:43am |
Oh, crap.
People went to read...
93 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:35:26am |
re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, crap.
People went to read...
I'm just looking at shiny objects.
/
94 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:37:22am |
re: #91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
With some of the grades and turns like they have on the Cass, it's probably for the best that they didn't top 15 MPH when you were there.
95 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:37:39am |
96 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:38:05am |
Is it too late to liven up the thread a little with some gratuitous linkage?
97 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:38:10am |
re: #94 Fenway_Nation
Yeah, but for a 9 year old boy?
For my 10th they took me to the "Watch Paint Dry" museum.
98 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:38:48am |
re: #91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
When I was a boy, my parents took me and my brothers and sisters to Cass Scenic Railroad... I was so excited.
Flippin' train didn't top 15 miles per hour... the most bored I have ever been in my life. Don't know what I was expecting, but AAARRRGGGHHH!
ummm,,, were you FAT back then !??!?!
just sayin!
99 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:40:12am |
100 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:40:35am |
re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah, but for a 9 year old boy?
For my 10th they took me to the "Watch Paint Dry" museum.
I cured my son of his "boredom" when he was about 7. After he told me he was bored, I told him to go out to the backyard and measure the grass at various locations each day for a wek and make a chart to guage the difference in a week
101 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:42:07am |
re: #100 sattv4u2
Now he smokes grass and its your fault!
/
102 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:43:12am |
re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now he smokes grass and its your fault!
/
Nahhh ,,, but the heroin IS starting to become an issue!
//
103 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:46:26am |
Today is National Smoke Out day. Wonder how many Lizards that indulge in the weed will take that the wrong way.
/
104 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:54:25am |
re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar
Today is National Smoke Out day. Wonder how many Lizards that indulge in the weed will take that the wrong way.
/
Damn you told me too late, oh well, now that I have already smoked today I might as well keep on puffing.
/
105 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:55:11am |
re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar
Today is National Smoke Out day. Wonder how many Lizards that indulge in the weed will take that the wrong way.
/
As a former smoker (tobacco) (( 2 1/2 + packs a day years)) I just want to say to all those Anti Smoking people and orgs ("The Truth")
BITE ME ! When I see them berating a smoker I feel like starting again just to piss them off!
106 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:56:07am |
re: #104 ausador
Damn you told me too late, oh well, now that I have already smoked today I might as well keep on puffing.
/
Thats one of the reasons I quit. I couldn;t walk without huffing AND puffing !!
/
107 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:57:01am |
re: #105 sattv4u2
I quit for a few months recently. Shit.
I have recently decided to not have a drink for a month... we'll see how that goes.
Want to make sure I'm not becoming an alcoholic, I hope I'm just a drunk. Drunks don't have to go to those damn meetings.
108 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:57:49am |
re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I quit for a few months recently. Shit.
I have recently decided to not have a drink for a month... we'll see how that goes.
Want to make sure I'm not becoming an alcoholic, I hope I'm just a drunk. Drunks don't have to go to those damn meetings.
Ahh ,, the meetings are okay, especially when you all go out to the bar after!
109 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:59:18am |
SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION (will repeat through the day)
TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY!!!
110 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 3:59:43am |
re: #105 sattv4u2
Back in the early '90's, I was a kitchen manager and I banned smoking at work. First in my state to do so. Now it is company wide. I only banned smoking because it was being abused.
111 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:00:16am |
re: #109 sattv4u2
Happy birthday! You get an upding...
113 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:00:47am |
re: #109 sattv4u2
SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION (will repeat through the day)
TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY!!!
Happy birthday!!! (I only celebrate mine if there is free booze)
114 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:02:01am |
re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar
Back in the early '90's, I was a kitchen manager and I banned smoking at work. First in my state to do so. Now it is company wide. I only banned smoking because it was being abused.
I have no problem with a PRIVATE company banning smoking in their workplace
What I do have a problem with is the Gov't stating that ALL bars and restaurats MUST ban smoking. Nobody "HAS" to go into a particular restaurant. If you're a non-smoker and I want to allow smoking in my place, I know I risk not having you as a client. oh well
MY call
115 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:02:05am |
re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar
Even at the expense of the TGI servers gathering around and singing some ridiculous birthday song @ your table?
116 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:02:47am |
re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar
Happy birthday!!! (I only celebrate mine if there is free booze)
Well ,,, I'm at work right now and don't get out till noon. If you can get to Atlanta by 1 i'll be pouring at my house !
117 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:03:19am |
re: #114 sattv4u2
They forced that shit down our throats in Florida.
118 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:04:20am |
re: #115 Fenway_Nation
Even at the expense of the TGI servers gathering around and singing some ridiculous birthday song @ your table?
Worse on a cruise ship... none of the servers speak English as a first language, and they are singing it with multiple accents. Wife and I were on cruise (have I mentioned that my wife hates me?) I'd go over and sing it with them with the accent of the day.
119 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:04:26am |
re: #114 sattv4u2
As much of a conservative as I try to be...personally, the no-smoking indoors ban in CA is probably the best law they've passed in years.
120 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:04:32am |
re: #115 Fenway_Nation
Even at the expense of the TGI servers gathering around and singing some ridiculous birthday song @ your table?
I HATE THAT!!! When I was a server at Chili's we had to sing. And I got to prove that I am tone deaf.
121 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:05:13am |
re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar
MMMmmm... Chilis... Black bean burger... fantastic.
122 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:06:08am |
re: #119 TheMatrix31
As much of a conservative as I try to be...personally, the no-smoking indoors ban in CA is probably the best law they've passed in years.
It killed some independent businesses here.
123 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:06:25am |
re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar
They forced that shit down our throats in Florida.
iirc, the 1st state to do it was Massachusetts, THIS just a few years after they made bars/ restaurants re-fit their dining areas into two seperate areas (smoking/ non-smoking) and upgrade their HVAC systems. I know of one place in Boston that spent over $300,000 in renovations just to have the state say a few years later "no smoking ANYWHERE" now
124 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:06:34am |
re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm a certified Chili's addict.
125 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:07:19am |
re: #122 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yeah, I know its sometimes bad for business, but for my personal experience, I love it. Cannot stand cigarette or cigar smoke, especially when I'm tryin' to eat.
126 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:08:19am |
re: #119 TheMatrix31
As much of a conservative as I try to be...personally, the no-smoking indoors ban in CA is probably the best law they've passed in years.
See my #123. I know of several small bars/ restaurants that were forced out of business because they either didn't have the cash to renovate or didn't want to go through the hassle
127 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:08:51am |
re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar
They forced that shit down our throats in Florida.
At least you can still smoke in bars, if they don't serve food anyway.
128 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:08:54am |
re: #126 sattv4u2
Yeah, that's unbelievable! Ridiculous.
129 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:09:11am |
Applebee's got some beaucoup brownie points from me for their Veteran's day promotion. They probably took a huge 1-day hit in terms of profits and overhead, but bought themselves alot of goodwill and publicity IMHO.
131 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:09:42am |
re: #125 TheMatrix31
Yeah, I know its sometimes bad for business, but for my personal experience, I love it. Cannot stand cigarette or cigar smoke, especially when I'm tryin' to eat.
And thats the point I made. Why is it the gov;ts job? Why not let it up to the individual owner of the place? He wants to allow smoking knowing he won't have you as a patron, oh well. You can go across town to a reataurant that does not allow smoking
He has no choice. You do!
132 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:09:53am |
In Florida, X% of sales must be alcohol to allow smoking. The way around it? Ring up a cocktail when ordering a burger on the computer.
133 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:10:22am |
I smoke, but prefer non smoking restaurants and bars.
1. Everyone can breathe.
2. I smoke less because I have to go outside.
3. I don't have to look over and see parents with children smoking with a fuckin' kid in their lap and want to walk over and slap the shit out of them.
Many benefits, in my mind.
Remember, it used to be legal to smoke in elevators.
134 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:10:28am |
re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar
We most emphatically did not do that at the sports bar where I used to work.
136 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:11:51am |
re: #133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
3. I don't have to look over and see parents with children smoking with a fuckin' kid in their lap and want to walk over and slap the shit out of them.
Why would you want to slap a little kid, ya big meanie you !
137 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:11:58am |
re: #124 TheMatrix31
I'm a certified Chili's addict.
I live in the largest city in Virginia without a Chilis, probably in all of America.
138 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:12:00am |
re: #133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I smoke, but prefer non smoking restaurants and bars.
1. Everyone can breathe.
2. I smoke less because I have to go outside.
3. I don't have to look over and see parents with children smoking with a fuckin' kid in their lap and want to walk over and slap the shit out of them.Many benefits, in my mind.
Remember, it used to be legal to smoke in elevators.
And you could smoke on planes, in hospital rooms, etc. Look at some old news footage. Those guys smoked on the set.
139 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:12:49am |
re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar
And you could smoke on planes, in hospital rooms, etc. Look at some old news footage. Those guys smoked on the set.
Movie theaters.
140 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:14:01am |
AGAIN,, I have NO problem banning smoking in public places where there is NO real option to get away from it (elevator, planes, etc)
What I DO object to is in a PRIVATE bar/ restauarant mandating to the owener he MUST not allow smoking
And again, this from a longtime former smoker!
141 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:16:25am |
re: #140 sattv4u2
AGAIN,, I have NO problem banning smoking in public places where there is NO real option to get away from it (elevator, planes, etc)
What I DO object to is in a PRIVATE bar/ restauarant mandating to the owener he MUST not allow smoking
And again, this from a longtime former smoker!
I used to wear a patch on long flights. Even handed a couple out to people going from LA to Hawaii.
142 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:17:18am |
re: #141 Cannadian Club Akbar
I used to wear a patch on long flights. Even handed a couple out to people going from LA to Hawaii.
Pirate recruiter?
143 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:17:42am |
As a musician, I was pleased when they banned smoking in bars in Ohio. I get the freedom to run your business as you see fit, but it's quite pleasant to get home at 4am and not have to sleep on the couch (my wife's allergic to smoke) and I'm to tired to shower. I feel better, too. All the bars I play in have not seen a hit on business in the 2 years since the ban. The year the ban took affect was my best year income wise.
Go figure.
145 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:19:12am |
re: #143 Jeff In Ohio
If everyone is forced to ban it, then the playing field is leveled.
I am in a dilemma about it. I agree with both sides... so I lean toward my preference. Glad that's not in the Constitution, huh.
146 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:19:14am |
148 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:20:15am |
re: #143 Jeff In Ohio
Thats all well and good, but again it should be the owners decision. And also yours whether to play in that bar or not
Sorry, but you don't "have" to play at any venue
149 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:20:40am |
My radio said today is also World Toilet Day. Whatever.
150 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:21:14am |
re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar
My radio said today is also World Toilet Day. Whatever.
I didn't know
Shit,,,!
151 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:21:54am |
re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar
My radio said today is also World Toilet Day. Whatever.
Your radio "talks" to you !?!?!
I have a waffle iron that once spit at me!
152 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:22:14am |
re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar
I HATE THAT!!! When I was a server at Chili's we had to sing. And I got to prove that I am tone deaf.
I had a friend with the same problem. He handled it with a stroke of genius. Told the boss he wanted to lead the group on his first day. When he was allowed, sang the birthday song, full voice (TERRIBLY)...
The boss never even allowed him in the back of the group again.
153 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:22:40am |
((( folks ,, the above is what happens when you wake up at noon on one day and are still awake at 7 a.m. the next day!)))
154 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:23:01am |
re: #148 sattv4u2
Thats all well and good, but again it should be the owners decision. And also yours whether to play in that bar or not
Sorry, but you don't "have" to play at any venue
No disagreement, but that doesn't change that I'm pleased I don't have to and I have not suffered in economic consequences.
155 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:23:28am |
re: #154 Jeff In Ohio
No disagreement, but that doesn't change that I'm pleased I don't have to and I have not suffered in economic consequences.
Hence the "Thats all well AND good!"
156 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:24:07am |
re: #151 sattv4u2
Your radio "talks" to you !?!?!
I have a waffle iron that once spit at me!
You should hear my lamp. Swears like a sailor!!
/
157 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:25:19am |
re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had a friend with the same problem. He handled it with a stroke of genius. Told the boss he wanted to lead the group on his first day. When he was allowed, sang the birthday song, full voice (TERRIBLY)...
The boss never even allowed him in the back of the group again.
I call bullshit on that story
No,, I don't doubt that person was a terrible singer
It's the "I had a friend " part!
//
158 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:27:43am |
Well they love to claim how much they have cut the number of smokers with the bans, taxes, and other efforts. 46% smoked in 1950 and only 19% today, but I don't think the freaking nanny state rules should get all the credit. !950 was when the first scientific connections between smoking and lung cancer were made. Readers Digest went on an anti-cigarette crusade (hey, they were a big deal back then), and public perception started to shift. Since then smoking rates in this country have gone steadily downhill.
159 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:28:56am |
re: #157 sattv4u2
Name's Ian. And he can sing. Was just embarrassed by the whole thing.
160 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:28:58am |
161 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:29:33am |
re: #158 ausador
Well they love to claim how much they have cut the number of smokers with the bans, taxes, and other efforts. 46% smoked in 1950 and only 19% today, but I don't think the freaking nanny state rules should get all the credit. !950 was when the first scientific connections between smoking and lung cancer were made. Readers Digest went on an anti-cigarette crusade (hey, they were a big deal back then), and public perception started to shift. Since then smoking rates in this country have gone steadily downhill.
And when they raised taxes on smokes in Florida, they lost tax revenue. And that was a state tax just before a new federal tax was piled on.
162 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:29:41am |
re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Name's Ian. And he can sing. Was just embarrassed by the whole thing.
Just becasue you know his name doesn;'t mean you had a "freind"!!!
/
163 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:30:40am |
re: #162 sattv4u2
Just becasue you know his name doesn;'t mean you had a "freind"!!!
/
You're just a meanie poopy-pants today, aren't you? :P
///
164 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:32:49am |
re: #163 Varek Raith
You're just a meanie poopy-pants today, aren't you? :P
///
Happens when the calender tells me I have to add +1 to my current age
165 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:33:11am |
re: #162 sattv4u2
Just becasue you know his name doesn;'t mean you had a "freind"!!!
/
Oh! Yeah, he's just a guy I know. Wouldn't call him a friend.
You're my only friend. (*bats eyes*)
166 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:33:44am |
re: #164 sattv4u2
Happens when the calender tells me I have to add +1 to my current age
Whoa!!! Your calander talks? Wonder if it knows my radio.
/
167 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:34:22am |
re: #164 sattv4u2
Happens when the calender tells me I have to add +1 to my current age
Ah, that'll do that! Mine was 17 days ago, I'm 26 now.
168 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:34:51am |
re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar
Whoa!!! Your calander talks? Wonder if it knows my radio.
/
It doesn't "talk". It chants !
It's Gregorian ,,
169 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:35:16am |
re: #167 Varek Raith
Ah, that'll do that! Mine was 17 days ago, I'm 26 now.
I have SHOES older than 26
170 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:35:34am |
171 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:35:38am |
re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh! Yeah, he's just a guy I know. Wouldn't call him a friend.
You're my only friend. (*bats eyes*)
{smooch}
172 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:39:35am |
Lots of birthdays in November around here, mine was on the 4th.
173 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:41:40am |
re: #172 ausador
Lots of birthdays in November around here, mine was on the 4th.
Princess Diana died on my birthday.
174 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:43:22am |
175 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:43:32am |
re: #172 ausador
Lots of birthdays in November around here, mine was on the 4th.
I think Cato told me his is tomorrow
176 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:45:12am |
re: #174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was in a car going to Indiana for summer vacation when Elvis died. I remember the announcement on the radio.
177 | ghazidor Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:46:15am |
Scorpios unite!
Remember our slogan, your not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on.
178 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:47:33am |
re: #174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Elvis died on my 15th birthday.
He wasn't a friend of mine either.
Another Fat Bastard though!
179 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:47:44am |
Here's something just fucking lovely.
18 year old employee set the local "PetSmart" on fire the other day. All of the animals were rescued. Several months before it will reopen.
There's some people without jobs for a few months.
Mother Fucker.
180 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:47:56am |
re: #174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was he nuthin' but a hound dawg?
182 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:52:00am |
re: #181 Fenway_Nation
Yep. Little corksocker. Farging icehole.
183 | Bloodnok Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:52:19am |
re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Here's something just fucking lovely.
18 year old employee set the local "PetSmart" on fire the other day. All of the animals were rescued. Several months before it will reopen.
There's some people without jobs for a few months.
Mother Fucker.
Pee Wee Herman was unavailable for comment.
(Insert clip from Pee Wee's Big Adventure which YouTube doesn't have HERE)
184 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:53:01am |
re: #183 Bloodnok
When he came out with the snakes, I laughed my ass off.
185 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:53:41am |
186 | right_wing2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:53:50am |
Trumpet player Maynard Ferguson died on my birthday.
187 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:54:10am |
Classic from an Eddie Murphy routine:
"Elvis never spoke in his movies, he sang all his lines. Someone would say `Come on Elvis, we have to win this race!' and Elvis would sing `We gotta win this race, ah-haw!' "
//Works better in audio than in print
188 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:54:45am |
I have the exact same birthday as Steve Carrell.
189 | Bloodnok Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:56:41am |
The Chernobyl disaster happened on my birthday. That's not a metaphor.
190 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:56:41am |
A county patrolman was shot on my birthday, that's my claim to fame. He recovered, IIRC.
192 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:58:30am |
re: #186 right_wing2
Trumpet player Maynard Ferguson died on my birthday.
His rendition of Ole was breathtaking.
When I was a lot younger I was a Drum and Bugle corps instructor. We did a rendition of that and our soloist nailed it
194 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:58:44am |
195 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 4:59:49am |
I plane on living forever
So Far, So Good
,,,
This is the oldest I've ever been!
196 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:00:09am |
re: #195 sattv4u2
I plan
eon living forever
So Far, So Good,,,
This is the oldest I've ever been!
PIMF
198 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:00:40am |
199 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:00:56am |
re: #195 sattv4u2
I plane on living forever
So Far, So Good,,,
This is the oldest I've ever been!
Until tomorrow.
200 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:01:38am |
re: #198 MandyManners
I'd like to put that off for some reason.
201 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:01:50am |
re: #199 Cannadian Club Akbar
Until tomorrow.
Actually , until right NOW
no ,, NOW ,, ,ummm, NOW ! No,, wait ,,, NOW !
202 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:02:18am |
203 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:03:04am |
re: #195 sattv4u2
I plane on living forever
So Far, So Good,,,
This is the oldest I've ever been!
One day, this bum heart will kill me. That's pretty much a given - it's just gonna go Gak! and give it up.
Not much I can do about that, but I have promised myself that it will not happen today. I plan to live forever, just 24 hours at a time! :)
204 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:04:01am |
re: #191 Fenway_Nation
I was born on my birthday...
The first line from my autobiography: I was born at an early age...
206 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:05:28am |
re: #204 SteveC
The first line from my autobiography: I was born at an early age...
Attorney: Chicolini, when were you born?
Chicolini: I don't remember. I was just a little baby.
207 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:05:58am |
re: #203 SteveC
My best friend died last month from an Aortic Aneurysm. Didn't even see it coming. Bummer.
209 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:06:28am |
re: #206 Obdicut
Attorney: Chicolini, when were you born?
Chicolini: I don't remember. I was just a little baby.
I was born at night, but I wasn't born last night!
210 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:06:28am |
re: #203 SteveC
I have a friend that is (within the next day or two) losing a two year battle with pancreatic cancer (well, not a friend, but I know him, there SAT!). A big ole' Marine who is now at 117 lbs.
There are worse ways to go than, "Gah!"
But, Steve... you make it through the next 48 hours, okay?
211 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:07:24am |
re: #204 SteveC
The first line from my autobiography: I was born at an early age...
"Diary of a Baby...
Day 1. Still tired from the move.
Day 2. Everybody talks to me like I'm an idiot."
-Steven Wright
212 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:07:46am |
re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar
My best friend died last month from an Aortic Aneurysm. Didn't even see it coming. Bummer.
dad-gum, my friend. My sympathies to you and to his/her family.
213 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:08:54am |
re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar
My best friend died last month from an Aortic Aneurysm. Didn't even see it coming. Bummer.
It's shocking, but, WHAT A WAY TO GO!
214 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:09:37am |
re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar
Damn dude. Didn't know that. Sorry to hear it. Did you mention it here?
215 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:09:42am |
216 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:10:16am |
217 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:10:25am |
Hey everyone. Last night after work I spent some time looking at this piece of visionary art:
[Link: www.fredweaver.com...]
One of the things I love about DC is I can walk ten minutes after work and go to a museum that has stuff like this, and it's free. Plus, on a weekday evening the place isn't full of tourists.
I really need to check out the Visionary Art Museum in Baltimore one of these days.
219 | SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:10:28am |
re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have the exact same birthday as Steve Carrell.
I have the same birthday as Richard Nixon.
220 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:10:34am |
Good morning lizards. The atmosphere seems much more civil this morning.
221 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:11:05am |
re: #214 TheMatrix31
Damn dude. Didn't know that. Sorry to hear it. Did you mention it here?
I think so, but I'm not here to be a bummer. I did my mourning period.
222 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:11:09am |
re: #219 SixDegrees
I have the same birthday as Richard Nixon.
Same birthday? Geeze. You a hundred or sumthin?
223 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:11:44am |
re: #220 NJDhockeyfan
Ix-nay on the Ead-thray!
224 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:12:18am |
225 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:12:25am |
226 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:12:47am |
227 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:12:47am |
228 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:13:26am |
re: #220 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards. The atmosphere seems much more civil this morning.
Fuck you! Get out of my country, you fascist quisling lickspittle!
///
229 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:13:57am |
re: #210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have a friend that is (within the next day or two) losing a two year battle with pancreatic cancer (well, not a friend, but I know him, there SAT!). A big ole' Marine who is now at 117 lbs.
There are worse ways to go than, "Gah!"
But, Steve... you make it through the next 48 hours, okay?
Sounds like an uncle - Marine who was the loadmaster on one of those huge cargo planes. Survived a hard landing - really just walked away. Now 30 years later he's bed ridden, pretty much because of residual damage from that hard landing/almost crash. It's a mess seeing him going downhill.
I know that we're all here by the Grace of G-d, me moreso than others. But I refuse to dwell on it and sit around and say "Woe is me!"
If my attempt at a little humor didn't sit well with anyone, please accept my apologies.
230 | SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:14:01am |
re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Same birthday? Geeze. You a hundred or sumthin?
Us Masons typically live well into our eight hundreds.
Look at Ernest Borgnine.
231 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:14:15am |
Today is Lunch With Dad Day at the school. I get to eat at the school with my kids. Today is going to be a great day!
232 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:14:19am |
233 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:14:51am |
re: #229 SteveC
Oh! I thought what you said was fantastic!
234 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:15:20am |
re: #231 NJDhockeyfan
Today is Lunch With Dad Day at the school. I get to eat at the school with my kids. Today is going to be a great day!
Hope they're serving pizza!!! With corn!!!
236 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:16:30am |
re: #231 NJDhockeyfan
Today is Lunch With Dad Day at the school. I get to eat at the school with my kids. Today is going to be a great day!
One year, I went with my daughter. She was in third grade (IIRC)
They had ketchup packets for the fries. She was so happy. "Most days the ketchup comes out of a squirt bottle and looks like tomato soup".
They were scammin' the parents.
237 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:16:35am |
re: #234 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hope they're serving pizza!!! With corn!!!
OMG, tried a new recipie for Taco Soup, thought I had died and gone to Margaritaville!
238 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:17:34am |
re: #237 SteveC
OMG, tried a new recipie for Taco Soup, thought I had died and gone to Margaritaville!
I've been to Margaritaville in Key West.
239 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:17:34am |
re: #234 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hope they're serving pizza!!! With corn!!!
I loved school pizza.
And school tartar sauce was great! Real sweet, havn't found anything like it since, and I have looked! Tartar sauce on french fries... mmm...
240 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:17:54am |
re: #230 SixDegrees
I thought he sold his soul...altho' if I sold my soul, I'd like to appear in better movies the Merlin's Shop of Magical Wonders...
241 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:18:17am |
242 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:18:39am |
243 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:18:48am |
re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar
I've been to Margaritaville in Key West.
My vision of Hell includes a non-stop Jimmy Buffet soundtrack.
244 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:18:49am |
Oh, my goodness! Two of my posts are in the Top 10.
*smoochies*
246 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:19:44am |
re: #244 MandyManners
Oh, my goodness! Two of my posts are in the Top 10.
*smoochies*
You got nothing from me.
/
247 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:20:34am |
re: #244 MandyManners
Oh, my goodness! Two of my posts are in the Top 10.
*smoochies*
LudwigVanQuixote owns the bottom 10 comments list.
248 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:20:46am |
re: #244 MandyManners
You've gotten thousands of dings on that one post. Gotta be number one of all time.
250 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:21:12am |
re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I loved school pizza.
And school tartar sauce was great! Real sweet, havn't found anything like it since, and I have looked! Tartar sauce on french fries... mmm...
Ugh, I worked for 6 months in a freezer chopping onions for tartar sauce for the regional tartar supplier for Frisches. I can barely not throw up at just the thought of the stuff.
251 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:21:19am |
I made the top 10 list at the post office.
/
252 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:21:25am |
re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Boy, I wish that post never had to exist.
253 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:22:05am |
re: #247 NJDhockeyfan
LudwigVanQuixote owns the bottom 10 comments list.
After last night, I can understand!
254 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:22:16am |
255 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:22:17am |
256 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:22:23am |
re: #250 Jeff In Ohio
Ugh, I worked for 6 months in a freezer chopping onions for tartar sauce for the regional tartar supplier for Frisches. I can barely not throw up at just the thought of the stuff.
6 months in a freezer? Hope they brought you soup.
//
257 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:22:43am |
re: #231 NJDhockeyfan
Today is Lunch With Dad Day at the school. I get to eat at the school with my kids. Today is going to be a great day!
You're into powdered foodstuffs, huh ?
//
j/k ,, I used to love going to my sons school and have lunch with him and his little buddies
Now that he's in 10th grade, if I'm even on school grounds at the same time he's mortified and embarrased !
258 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:23:06am |
259 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:23:47am |
260 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:24:01am |
re: #256 Cannadian Club Akbar
6 months in a freezer? Hope they brought you soup.
//
Sorry, it was a walk in fridge. But still...
261 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:24:35am |
re: #260 Jeff In Ohio
Sorry, it was a walk in fridge. But still...
Were you able to walk out, too?
/
262 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:24:37am |
re: #257 sattv4u2
Someone needs to post a video of Adam Sandler's "Lunch Lady Land." (I can't since I'm at work)
263 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:25:33am |
re: #261 Fenway_Nation
Were you able to walk out, too?
/
I was, and I always had a very large knife.
264 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:25:49am |
re: #262 Mad Al-Jaffee
Sloppy joes, Slop Sloppy joes...
265 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:25:55am |
For those of you who enjoy reading horror stories...
266 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:26:30am |
Got an email that says my friend came through her surgery ok!
Has a smart ass for a surgeon. She gets the breathing tube out of her mouth and asks him how it went. He says the valve replacement went great, we still have to add a quart of oil and adjust your spark plugs.
267 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:26:45am |
re: #260 Jeff In Ohio
Sorry, it was a walk in fridge. But still...
I was in a house that had a walk-in fridge once.
269 | TheMatrix31 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:27:37am |
re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have some moreee sa-loppy JOE'S...I made 'em extraaa sa-loppy for yas!
271 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:28:19am |
re: #270 RogueOne
Good morning, crimson of the singular persuasion.
272 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:30:29am |
re: #266 SteveC
Got an email that says my friend came through her surgery ok!
Has a smart ass for a surgeon. She gets the breathing tube out of her mouth and asks him how it went. He says the valve replacement went great, we still have to add a quart of oil and adjust your spark plugs.
Very nice!!!
273 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:30:40am |
re: #257 sattv4u2
You're into powdered foodstuffs, huh ?
//
j/k ,, I used to love going to my sons school and have lunch with him and his little buddies
Now that he's in 10th grade, if I'm even on school grounds at the same time he's mortified and embarrased !
All the more reason for you to go have lunch with him.
274 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:31:26am |
276 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:34:27am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Rogue, not Rouge!
Rogue=loner. Loner=desciption of the guy on the block who gets caught with a freezer full of human heads.
///
277 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:36:04am |
278 | SteveC Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:36:10am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Rogue, not Rouge!
Was (not Was)
Boom boom acka-lacka lacka boom
Boom boom acka-lacka boom boom
It was a night like this forty million years ago
I lit a cigarette, picked up a monkey skull to go
The sun was spitting fire, the sky was blue as ice
I felt a little tired, so I watched Miami Vice
And Walked the dinosaur, I walked the dinosaur
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
279 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:36:17am |
280 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:36:20am |
re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar
Rogue=loner. Loner=desciption of the guy on the block who gets caught with a freezer full of human heads.
///
That doesn't sound like me at all...I'm more into feet.
281 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:37:59am |
re: #277 Jeff In Ohio
EGGO SHORTAGE - Speaking of food for kids, this is going to have a huge impact on our mornings
I have a 24 pack in the freezer... I should go and sell them down on the corner?
282 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:38:59am |
re: #281 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have a 24 pack in the freezer... I should go and sell them down on the corner?
Yes. But get a trench coat.
283 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:39:05am |
re: #271 Fenway_Nation
(is your face red or what?)
(GET IT?)
284 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:39:49am |
re: #281 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have a 24 pack in the freezer... I should go and sell them down on the corner?
Ooo, I like that idea. Portable generator, toaster and a box full of Eggos. Cuppa Joe and an Eggo to go.
285 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:39:53am |
re: #267 NJDhockeyfan
I was in a house that had a walk-in fridge once.
They had one at the "Overlook Hotel".
286 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:39:53am |
Anyone remember the story last week about the Maricopa co. deputy swiping files from a defense atty during a hearing? I'm kind of surprised here but they actually found him in contempt of court. Of course Sheriff Joe says he didn't do anything wrong so he won't comply with the judges orders. Sheriff Joe needs to go.
[Link: www.azcentral.com...]
here's the video of the officer swiping the files for those that don't remember:
288 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:40:43am |
Middle East Small Talks To Focus On Getting Israel, Palestine To Discuss Weather
LONDON—According to State Department officials, the violently clashing peoples of Israel and Palestine have agreed to resume small talks this week in an effort to move toward eventually having a discussion about the weather...
290 | charlz Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:42:49am |
re: #278 SteveC
Was (not Was)
Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur
I still have my copy of that CD!
291 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:48:52am |
292 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:55:26am |
To work. Y'all be kind to each other. Let's see if any fences can be mended.
Love y'all.
('specially you, Sattv...;)
293 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:56:15am |
re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Where did you have lunch yesterday?
294 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:56:48am |
re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
To work. Y'all be kind to each other. Let's see if any fences can be mended.
Love y'all.
('specially you, Sattv...;)
What fences need mended. Did I miss a good quarrel last night? Damnit, I always miss all the fun.
295 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:58:06am |
re: #294 RogueOne
What fences need mended. Did I miss a good quarrel last night? Damnit, I always miss all the fun.
It was ugly. That's all I'm saying.
296 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 5:58:19am |
Morning all. Saw this over at the El Reg and it reminded me of our very own Mandy "shoot your computer" Manners.
297 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:02:41am |
Our tax dollars hard at work.
AARP Received $18 Million In Stimulus Money
AARP, which has given its full-throated support to Democratic health care legislation even though seniors remain largely opposed, received an $18 million grant in the economic stimulus package for a job training program that has not created any jobs, according to the Obama administration's Recovery.gov website.The Senior Community Service Employment Program (SCSEP), according to the website, is "a work training program for unemployed mature workers who are 55+ and are at or below 125% of the poverty guidelines." So far, $6.5 million has been spent on the program, and it has not reported creating any jobs.
In February, the Politico reported that AARP was putting pressure on Republican members of Congress to support the stimulus package.
Since then, AARP has moved on to lobbying for passage of health care legislation, even though Democratic proposals have called for several hundred billion dollars in cuts to Medicare, a program that the group typically defends tooth and nail when Republicans propose cutting it. A recent Pew survey found that just 31 percent of those over 65 supported health care legislation being touted by AARP.
298 | Dreader1962 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:06:12am |
re: #109 sattv4u2
SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION (will repeat through the day)
TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY!!!
Happy Birthday, satt!
I just suffered through one of those last Friday (yes, Friday the 13th was my birthday).
I got over it...
299 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:06:58am |
re: #295 NJDhockeyfan
It was ugly. That's all I'm saying.
like older days gone by...I'm sentimental like that, you just have to when when to get out
301 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:10:04am |
Israel brushes off Obama criticism, pushes forward with east Jerusalem construction
JERUSALEM - Israel broke ground on a new housing complex for Jews in east Jerusalem on Wednesday, brushing off President Barack Obama's criticism that construction in the disputed part of the holy city undermines efforts to relaunch Mideast peace talks.
The groundbreaking came a day after Israel defied American, European and Palestinian demands to stop settlement activity by announcing it will press forward with construction of 900 apartments in another Jewish area in east Jerusalem.
...Underscoring Israel's claim to the city, a member of the Israeli parliament and American Jewish visitors held a groundbreaking ceremony for another construction project in east Jerusalem on Wednesday.
The lawmaker, from Netanyahu's Likud Party, accused Obama of making a "racist demand" by ordering Israel to halt settlement activity.
"President Obama should not interfere with the rights of the Jewish people to live in Jerusalem," said lawmaker Danny Danon. "This ... is a racist demand, saying that Jews cannot live in Jerusalem, only Arabs."
Ouch.
303 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:16:02am |
re: #301 NJDhockeyfan
Israel brushes off Obama criticism, pushes forward with east Jerusalem construction
Ouch.
More like "fuck you".
304 | Dreader1962 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:17:30am |
re: #300 sattv4u2
Congrats and Thanks
Upthread you hinted at free beer for people in the Atlanta area - I'm close; where do I sign up?
//
305 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:17:38am |
re: #303 MandyManners
More like "fuck you".
But, but, Obama said we shouldn't tell other nations how to run their country.
306 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:18:12am |
re: #263 Jeff In Ohio
I was, and I always had a very large knife.
Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?
307 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:18:33am |
re: #305 Cannadian Club Akbar
But, but, Obama said we shouldn't tell other nations how to run their country.
Don't get me started.
308 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:18:34am |
re: #304 Dreader1962
Upthread you hinted at free beer for people in the Atlanta area - I'm close; where do I sign up?
//
Actually, it was free booze. He gets off at noon.
/
309 | FrogMarch Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:19:47am |
re: #297 NJDhockeyfan
Our tax dollars hard at work.
Since were flinging the f word around. Fuck the AARP.
310 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:20:33am |
311 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:21:12am |
re: #305 Cannadian Club Akbar
But, but, Obama said we shouldn't tell other nations how to run their country.
he's completely two faced and unreliable...here's another example
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]
he just makes shit up to serve himself
312 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:23:39am |
re: #305 Cannadian Club Akbar
But, but, Obama said we shouldn't tell other nations how to run their country.
He likes to hang out with people who listen to folks who want to tell us what to do. And, he takes money from them.
Top Obama donor and fundraiser Jodie Evans met with the Taliban in Afghanistan on a recent trip there, according to a report by Jane Fonda of a discussion she had with Evans last month. The meeting with the Taliban took place just weeks before Evans was videotaped directly handing to President Barack Obama a package of information about her trip to Afghanistan at a high dollar fundraiser in San Francisco.
The meeting with the Taliban was kept secret by Evans and her group Code Pink in reports she and the group posted from Kabul and in interviews with the media and bloggers about the trip. Fonda, a close friend of Evans, let the secret meeting slip in an account of her dinner with Evans at a fundraiser for the Armand Hammer Museum in Los Angeles:
Last Saturday, My dear friends Jodie Evans and Max Palevsky, invited Richard and me to join them at their table at a fundraiser at the Armand Hammer Museum in Westwood. It was a good evening for lots of reasons. I had never been to the museum and definitely want to go back. Clearly it is a courageous place, very cutting edge. Then, too, I saw lots of friends I hadn’t seen in a long time and I sat next to Jodie who told me a little about her recent trip to Afghanistan with an American delegation that included a retired colonel, and member the State Department (Army Reserves Col. (Ret.) and ex-diplomat Ann Wright). While there, she met with people ranging from the brother of President Karzai, Afghan members of Parliament, activists, to warlords and members of the Taliban (emphasis added.) Jodie is co-founder of the peace organization, Code Pink, and always willing to go to any lengths to try and find out what’s really going on. Bottom line: everyone she met with wants the U.S. Military out of their country. They feel our presence there has brought more violence rather than security. Please read a short article she wrote about the trip which is on the Women’s Media Center website.
Hat tip to NJDHockeyfan!!!
313 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:24:10am |
re: #312 MandyManners
Choke on that, you fucking progressives.
314 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:26:33am |
If any Lizards are planning on flying cross country today, better make alternate plans.
U.S. Flights Delayed, Canceled Because of FAA Computer Glitch
"The Federal Aviation Administration's computer systems are experiencing problems retrieving flight plans, a spokeswoman said."
315 | lawhawk Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:27:39am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the poll thread is still alive and well, despite the clear inability of certain individuals to answer one key question:
If Obama Administration is going ahead with duly constructed and authorized tribunals to deal with some detainees, why not use them for all but for their policy choice to prefer Article 3 courts (federal district courts) over the tribunals except in cases where the feds aren't sure that they can get convictions?
The Obama Administration has made it clear that they intend to use the tribunals in some cases. I argue that they should be extended to all cases, as it is a duly authorized court with procedures in place to protect what rights the courts have extended to the detainees (which is far and above what rights they should have received - which under the Geneva Conventions was precisely none). Those on the Left castigate the Bush Administration because he dealt more humanely with these terrorist detainees and didn't want to lump them in with POWs, and instead sought a middle ground that didn't provide all rights and access to the courts.
The courts upbraided the Bush Administration on some issues, but the courts have never ruled that they can't be tried in tribunals. The Obama Administration is set to do just that in some cases.
I want it done for all, because the selection and choice to provide federal court access for some but not others will result in still more delaying litigation.
Either all the detainees get federal court access, or none do. This half-assed approach is going to cause more problems.
In fact, the Obama Administration has made it abundantly clear why they can't put all into federal court; some would not have sufficient evidence to gain convictions, and some simply cannot be released under any circumstances.
Again, all that favors tribunals over courts, and yet here we are.
This video sums things up (both the prior thread and the current Administration's approach):
316 | FrogMarch Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:29:10am |
re: #312 MandyManners
Hat tip to NJDHockeyfan!!!
Jane Fonda says:
"Bottom line: everyone she met with wants the U.S. Military out of their country."
Thank you Jane. As always - you're such a treasure. Those pesky innocent Taliban just want the evil US to leave. Then everything would be peachy. Ah - the wisdom of Jane Fonda. It's like... an outhouse on a hot day.
317 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:30:17am |
re: #295 NJDhockeyfan
It was ugly. That's all I'm saying.
I'm catching up. I'm sitting in my office laughing at some of the flame war comments. Too funny. I'm a little weird but pissed off people crack me up.
318 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:30:42am |
re: #316 FrogMarch
Thank you Jane. As always - you're such a treasure. Those pesky innocent Taliban just want the evil US to leave. Then everything would be peachy. Ah - the wisdom of Jane Fonda. It's like... an outhouse on a hot day.
Yes but, JODIE EVANS IS THE ONE WHO MET WITH THE TALIBAN. CODE PINK. BIG FUND-RAISER FOR BHO.
319 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:31:22am |
I just read a help wanted ad on Craig's List. It ended saying you didn't need to know how to speak or read english. It said that in english.
320 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:31:55am |
Yeah, well, fuck you, bratwusrt, and the sausage you rode in here on.
Mandy, I think I may love you.
321 | Dreader1962 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:32:12am |
re: #310 sattv4u2
Southeast corner of Snelville ,, about 1 p.m.
Damn! I don't get off until at least 5 p.m., and I'm way out on the west side of town.
Anyway, my nic is blue if you want to meet at some other time & I'll buy you a birthday round.
322 | Dreader1962 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:33:53am |
re: #315 lawhawk
What concerns me is that we have the Justice Department saying that even with an acquittal, these people will still be detained. In the civilian courts, I would imagine that the defense would have a field day with that kind of a statement prior to trial.
323 | FrogMarch Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:34:29am |
re: #318 MandyManners
Yes but, JODIE EVANS IS THE ONE WHO MET WITH THE TALIBAN. CODE PINK. BIG FUND-RAISER FOR BHO.
I think I was quoting Jane Fonda's take on Jodie's meeting. Right?
I'm not Fonda Jane.
In any case - what could be wrong with a fund-raiser for BHO. Seems like Obama's balancing his decision between McCrystal and Code Pink.
324 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:35:41am |
re: #315 lawhawk
how ironic...vid was made by Progressive Film Producing Co., San Fransisco
325 | FrogMarch Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:36:31am |
re: #315 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the poll thread is still alive and well, despite the clear inability of certain individuals to answer one key question:
If Obama Administration is going ahead with duly constructed and authorized tribunals to deal with some detainees, why not use them for all but for their policy choice to prefer Article 3 courts (federal district courts) over the tribunals except in cases where the feds aren't sure that they can get convictions?
[Video]
The big show! and Huffpo and Sullivan...
326 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:36:50am |
327 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:37:35am |
re: #323 FrogMarch
I think I was quoting Jane Fonda's take on Jodie's meeting. Right?
I'm not Fonda Jane.In any case - what could be wrong with a fund-raiser for BHO. Seems like Obama's balancing his decision between McCrystal and Code Pink.
Makes me wanna' put on my "I'M NOT FONDA HANOI JANE" T-shirt today.
328 | Surabaya Stew Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:38:02am |
re: #315 lawhawk
Good morning. After reading all the angry debate going on since yesterday, it must be admitted that you raise a great question re: the fairness of trying some terrorists in Civilian court and the rest by military tribunals. Eric Posner over at VC makes an argument that Obama and Holder's strategy is actually ok. Was wondering what you though of his logic.
329 | lawhawk Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:38:38am |
re: #322 Dreader1962
The silence from the civil libertarians is astounding.
Moreover, if the Administration thinks that it can detain people indefinitely even in the face of an acquittal in federal court, they've got another thing coming, namely lots more lawsuits. After all, in the unlikely event of an acquittal of KSM, his lawyers would be all over the Administration to demand his release.
So, how would the Administration have grounds to keep him after that? Well, he'd probably face additional charges in a tribunal.
And some of the hack politicians who are now supporting this farce originally wanted military tribunals, including none other than Sen. Chuck Schumer, who represents NY and whose own daughter was caught up in the attack while attending Stuyvesant HS in Lower Manhattan.
330 | Dreader1962 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:39:00am |
re: #316 FrogMarch
Jane Fonda says:
"Bottom line: everyone she met with wants the U.S. Military out of their country."
I can't imagine a more blinkered statement - 'Geez, the selected people I chose to meet with when I made arrangements for an anti-war tour wants the U.S. Military out of their country'. Blanket statement as well; did everyone she meet with say that they wanted the U.S. out immediately with no further security support?
What's funny is that these types see what they are doing as 'significant' - no one else knows that war is bad. The soldiers who fight it have no clue, apparently. They are just mindless robots (or hapless victims) in the eyes of these morons.
331 | lawhawk Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:39:03am |
re: #325 FrogMarch
I thought Sullivan is taking a break from everything because of the Palinalooza.
332 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:39:09am |
re: #318 MandyManners
Yes but, JODIE EVANS IS THE ONE WHO MET WITH THE TALIBAN. CODE PINK. BIG FUND-RAISER FOR BHO.
It's no secret who Jodie Evans is, what she has done, and who she associates with. The president let her on stage and gave her a hug. Wonderful.
333 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:39:17am |
This is going to stir the antivaxers up.
Deaths Not Linked to H1N1 Vaccines: WHO
/ It's all a conspiracy by big pharm!
334 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:40:31am |
re: #332 NJDhockeyfan
It's no secret who Jodie Evans is, what she has done, and who she associates with. The president let her on stage and gave her a hug. Wonderful.
Oh, you mean bastard! You're gonna' make the progressives cry!
335 | FrogMarch Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:41:48am |
re: #331 lawhawk
I thought Sullivan is taking a break from everything because of the Palinalooza.
Is he still obsessing about her "faked pregnancy"? Oh wait - of course he is... and obsessing and obsessing...
336 | freetoken Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:41:50am |
re: #333 Bubblehead II
Unfortunately the truth about vaccinations is not high on the anti-vaxxers' list of things about which to ponder.
I've got tons and tons of links of examples of the anti-vaxx nonsense going on right now, wrt H1N1. It's a worldwide phenomenon that is based on ignorance, through and through.
337 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:42:00am |
Folks, every now and then, the veil lifts and we get to see who and what BHO is.
338 | charlz Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:42:50am |
re: #315 lawhawk
If Obama Administration is going ahead with duly constructed and authorized tribunals to deal with some detainees, why not use them for all but for their policy choice to prefer Article 3 courts (federal district courts) over the tribunals except in cases where the feds aren't sure that they can get convictions?
Is that what the joint DOD/DOJ memo that you posted last night said?
BTW, would you mind posting that again?
339 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:43:26am |
re: #334 MandyManners
Oh, you mean bastard! You're gonna' make the progressives cry!
after last night, they deserve worse...what a shameless display of arrogance and hostility
340 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:43:28am |
re: #337 MandyManners
Folks, every now and then, the veil lifts and we get to see who and what BHO is.
Oh, and there are quite a few here who've known who and what he is for quite some time.
341 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:43:56am |
re: #339 albusteve
after last night, they deserve worse...what a shameless display of arrogance and hostility
They have their own gardens to tend to. I'll tend to mine.
342 | lawhawk Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:45:13am |
re: #328 Surabaya Stew
Good morning. After reading all the angry debate going on since yesterday, it must be admitted that you raise a great question re: the fairness of trying some terrorists in Civilian court and the rest by military tribunals. Eric Posner over at VC makes an argument that Obama and Holder's strategy is actually ok. Was wondering what you though of his logic.
Posner's argument expands on what I had been saying. Where I disagree with Posner is that Holder himself says that the tribunals have many of the same procedures in place as found in federal court. The difference is in the evidenciary proceedings and what is allowed/disallowed along with the treatment of national security information.
Posner also doesn't address the issue of fairness and due process that detainees shuffled into the tribunal system alone will have as not having access to the federal court. Disproportionate treatment under the circumstances.
It is also a judgment call to send some to federal court while others get tribunals, based on the evidence at hand.
If the procedures and policy is in place to carry out a military tribunal for one, it would work for all.
However, Posner's critique that the tribunals would not be seen as credible is a direct result of the left's consistent attacks on the tribunal system, and not based on the actual status of the law and the duly constructed tribunal system that has been vetted by the courts and the legislature.
343 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:46:37am |
344 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:47:02am |
re: #341 MandyManners
They have their own gardens to tend to. I'll tend to mine.
well then, here you go...the Opus
345 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:47:25am |
re: #343 MandyManners
Dang.
If you weren't married, I'd drop to my knees and pop the question right now.
Is that what you're calling it now?
346 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:47:42am |
re: #331 lawhawk
I read a politico story about that yesterday. Sullivan needs to have his meds checked.
347 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:49:28am |
re: #343 MandyManners
Dang.
If you weren't married, I'd drop to my knees and pop the question right now.
imagine the pre nups!...yikes!
348 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:49:51am |
re: #342 lawhawk
Thanks for being one of the calm knowledgeable voices on the thread last night.
349 | MandyManners Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:50:13am |
Gotta' git. Have a nice morning, Lizards.
350 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:50:23am |
re: #336 freetoken
Just did a search of You Tube search using the question "what is the truth".
Got some pretty weird hits. May just spend some time watching them for the humor.
352 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:52:34am |
As commander in chief, Obama has a responsibility to exude decisiveness and convey a can-do attitude at all times. Those were big selling points for him as a presidential candidate. Americans took him at his word when he declared in July 2008 that he would make Afghanistan his military focus
[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]
weak, whimpy, useable...our POTUS
354 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:55:46am |
Steam was pouring out of Eric Holder's ears after Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., quoted from former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy's National Review article this week. McCarthy described Holder as "a lawyer whose firm is among those responsible for the litigation-driven delay that became a lawfare triumph for al-Qaida.
[Link: www.investors.com...]
there is more dirt to this trial business...Holder is fucking around with his office
355 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:58:15am |
In many respects, the theatrics already have taken over. We are seeing a terrorism policy for trial lawyers: Let us prove to you that the federal judicial system can handle anything you throw at it. Of course, it will take us many hours of work, which we will be only too happy to bill you for — "you" mostly being the U.S. taxpayer.
Investors Daily
this really sucks
356 | MrSilverDragon Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:02:04am |
Good morning, everyone.
Since a majority of you folks are impartial, let me run this by you. I buy my wife a nice bouquet of flowers because I think she'll like them. I give them to her, and the response is "Did you get them for me because you did something bad yesterday? What did you do?!?!"
It's really turned me off on giving flowers to her.
Are people really that insane?
357 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:03:03am |
re: #352 albusteve
As commander in chief, Obama has a responsibility to exude decisiveness and convey a can-do attitude at all times. Those were big selling points for him as a presidential candidate. Americans took him at his word when he declared in July 2008 that he would make Afghanistan his military focus
[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]
weak, whimpy, useable...our POTUS
Butbutbut he's so cerebral and brainy!
/
358 | FrogMarch Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:04:08am |
re: #355 albusteve
In many respects, the theatrics already have taken over. We are seeing a terrorism policy for trial lawyers: Let us prove to you that the federal judicial system can handle anything you throw at it. Of course, it will take us many hours of work, which we will be only too happy to bill you for — "you" mostly being the U.S. taxpayer.
Investors Daily
this really sucks
What's a little more crazy spending.
oh and I like how Obama is concerned about our debt. What a joke.
359 | badger1970 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:05:25am |
re: #356 MrSilverDragon
It's not the flowers per se, it's the spontaneous, out of the ordinary thoughtfulness that she may be questioning. It'll be like my kid cleaning her room, doing the dishes, taking out the garbage and walking the dog without being asked.
360 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:07:23am |
"When Holder says "trust me," is he really speaking to the left-wing base of the Democratic Party? Those liberals are the ones who want to see the discovery phase of Khalid's civilian trial reveal as much as possible about the Bush administration's enhanced interrogation techniques — in effect placing the post-9/11 global war on terror on trial."
Yep. As well as giving AlQ yet again, another look into how our intelligence communities obtain and act on information that is detrimental to them.
361 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:07:47am |
if you're interested, here's the article Sen Kyl was referring to in the above Investors Daily story concering Holder and the trials...this is a bombshell, must read to understand what Lawhawk has been saying...this whole thing stinks...and it will spin out of control for BO
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
362 | MrSilverDragon Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:08:12am |
re: #359 badger1970
It's not the flowers per se, it's the spontaneous, out of the ordinary thoughtfulness that she may be questioning. It'll be like my kid cleaning her room, doing the dishes, taking out the garbage and walking the dog without being asked.
So, basically I'm screwed whenever I do something spontaneous. Well crap, I cooked dinner last night too... and I did laundry and the dishes.
No good deed goes unpunished. :/
363 | gregb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:08:16am |
Kaam says it's bird rock in laguna beach, so this possibly could be an overnight bird thread too?
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
364 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:09:00am |
re: #358 FrogMarch
What's a little more crazy spending.
oh and I like how Obama is concerned about our debt. What a joke.
Nobody is buying his bullshit anymore. That's why he continues to tank in the polls.
365 | Surabaya Stew Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:09:00am |
re: #356 MrSilverDragon
Good morning, everyone.
Since a majority of you folks are impartial, let me run this by you. I buy my wife a nice bouquet of flowers because I think she'll like them. I give them to her, and the response is "Did you get them for me because you did something bad yesterday? What did you do?!?!"
It's really turned me off on giving flowers to her.
Are people really that insane?
Yes, especially when you are married to them.
:-D
366 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:09:39am |
Hey Morning Lizards!
This is a probably a drive-by post, so, Good Morning!
and
Have a Great Day!
If it isn't a drive-by:
How are you-all?
367 | gregb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:12:06am |
re: #7 Fenway_Nation
That's pretty mild as far as train wrecks go...or maybe it was a slow motion train wreck that people could see coming for miles but were powerless to stop it?
368 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:14:13am |
re: #367 gregb
That's pretty mild as far as train wrecks go...or maybe it was a slow motion train wreck that people could see coming for miles but were powerless to stop it?
nothing special...LGF used to be a war zone every now and then, but most of the older posters are long gone
369 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:14:33am |
re: #367 gregb
That's pretty mild as far as train wrecks go...or maybe it was a slow motion train wreck that people could see coming for miles but were powerless to stop it?
So, was it reallly that bad?
370 | Surabaya Stew Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:15:54am |
re: #342 lawhawk
Posner's argument expands on what I had been saying. Where I disagree with Posner is that Holder himself says that the tribunals have many of the same procedures in place as found in federal court. The difference is in the evidenciary proceedings and what is allowed/disallowed along with the treatment of national security information.
Posner also doesn't address the issue of fairness and due process that detainees shuffled into the tribunal system alone will have as not having access to the federal court. Disproportionate treatment under the circumstances.
It is also a judgment call to send some to federal court while others get tribunals, based on the evidence at hand.
If the procedures and policy is in place to carry out a military tribunal for one, it would work for all.
However, Posner's critique that the tribunals would not be seen as credible is a direct result of the left's consistent attacks on the tribunal system, and not based on the actual status of the law and the duly constructed tribunal system that has been vetted by the courts and the legislature.
A great critique Lawhawk, but couldn't the perceived credibility issues with the military tribunal system have something to the long delay in getting them ramped up in the first place? (There's plenty of blame to go around as why they got so put off; can't say that any one side is responsible for this mess.) It still doesn't answer your question though; if military tribunals are discredited (for any reason) then why have any in this instance?
371 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:15:56am |
re: #369 ggt
So, was it reallly that bad?
Yep, see for yourself, it's still going on, albeit at reduced levels.
And g'morning, Lizards!
372 | freetoken Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:16:06am |
re: #369 ggt
So, was it reallly that bad?
Let's put it this way... I avoided it until the wee hours of the morning... and now I'm off to scout more hours of sleep before I head out today to find something productive to do.
373 | gregb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:16:21am |
re: #43 Sergeant Major
They'll come for the overclocked computers next. Overclocking is the art of running as much wattage through highly specialized etched metals at extremely high frequencies such that they don't all melt together.
8 CPUs and 8 GPUs need a lot of power. Not to mention the active cooling.
Keep your hands off my wattage.
374 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:16:27am |
It never ends...
Another Obama nominee runs into tax problems
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's choice for a top job in the Treasury Department did not disclose all of her late tax payments until she was repeatedly prodded by Senate investigators, a congressional report issued Wednesday said.
Obama's nominee for undersecretary of the Treasury for international affairs, Lael Brainard, is the fifth presidential nominee to reveal tax issues during the congressional vetting process.
Brainard was late in paying real estate taxes in 2005, 2006 and 2007 on property in Northern Virginia, according to the report by the Senate Finance Committee staff.
The report also challenges the accuracy of a deduction Brainard claimed for running an office from her home. The challenge led Brainard to reduce the deduction on her 2008 return, though she declined to adjust returns for 2005, 2006 and 2007, telling committee staff she used a reasonable method to calculate the deductions.
Brainard paid most of the late property taxes before she was nominated, in March. However, she told the committee that she realized after her nomination that her 2008 property taxes had not been paid. They were paid in September, the report said.
375 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:16:48am |
re: #369 ggt
So, was it reallly that bad?
it was getting bad when I bailed and I was told it got worse.
376 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:17:09am |
It is mind-boggling that the delay in completing commission trials would be derided by Eric Holder, a lawyer whose firm is among those responsible for the litigation-driven delay that became a lawfare triumph for al-Qaeda. Holder and his comrades did everything they could do to undermine the commission system, both in legal motions and in public appearances accusing the Bush administration of torture, war crimes, and disregard for the legal rights of terrorists.
from NRO...bayback...this whole thing is a political bludgeon to beat GWB over the head with
377 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:18:43am |
re: #371 Guanxi88
Yep, see for yourself, it's still going on, albeit at reduced levels.
And g'morning, Lizards!
At least they are keeping it on the proper thread.
378 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:18:58am |
re: #371 Guanxi88
Yep, see for yourself, it's still going on, albeit at reduced levels.
And g'morning, Lizards!
I did look at the last few posts. I think it started earlier when I was still on-line. Think the hits a few nerves?
379 | gregb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:20:31am |
re: #369 ggt
So, was it reallly that bad?
I was just trying to make a clever analogy about the picture.
I'm two cups of java short of being awake this morning. I had this really bad dream of shooting zombies all night with friends.
That Hard Rain level is probably one of the most visually stunning levels ever made in a video game to date.
(NSFW) [Link: www.gamespot.com...]
380 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:20:53am |
re: #374 NJDhockeyfan
endemic...are these people vetted?...another brazen insult to the tax paying citizens...I'm really starting to hate the whole lot of them, but I'm not surprised...when I called BO a crook a year ago people scoffed at the idea...he's crooked as hell
381 | FrogMarch Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:22:00am |
re: #364 NJDhockeyfan
Nobody is buying his bullshit anymore. That's why he continues to tank in the polls.
I've seen other polls that show as much. I hear people on the left/middle independent left (and even far left) grumble that they are not happy about this health care slam. Basically less than half of this nation want the expensive snake oil congress is selling. (I contend the if the poll questions were asked honestly - health care would be at about 35% approval) It could be that no matter how unimpressive the GOP candidates are in 2010 - they will still push many Dems out. I think it will be due to the debt and the health care shove-down. We shall see.
382 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:22:04am |
re: #379 gregb
I was just trying to make a clever analogy about the picture.
I'm two cups of java short of being awake this morning. I had this really bad dream of shooting zombies all night with friends.
That Hard Rain level is probably one of the most visually stunning levels ever made in a video game to date.
(NSFW) [Link: www.gamespot.com...]
I've only had one cuppa. don't think I can handle any stunning visuals so early in the morning.
:)
383 | lawhawk Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:22:31am |
re: #370 Surabaya Stew
The same critique that says that the delay somehow invalidates or makes the tribunals inferior is the same argument that could support them; by running so many of these issues through the courts, the legal system and the legislature and the President put together a process out of whole cloth that has the ability to try these cases. It takes time to make the process work and fulfill constitutional requirements as described by the Supreme Court.
Moreover, some of these issues were working in parallel; the tribunals were being put together, rights were being addressed by the Supreme Court (after appellate level and trial level action), and the tribunals themselves were questioned in the courts.
Now that these issues are sorted out, the tribunals are good to go - so says the Obama Administration.
384 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:23:26am |
re: #376 albusteve
It is mind-boggling that the delay in completing commission trials would be derided by Eric Holder, a lawyer whose firm is among those responsible for the litigation-driven delay that became a lawfare triumph for al-Qaeda. Holder and his comrades did everything they could do to undermine the commission system, both in legal motions and in public appearances accusing the Bush administration of torture, war crimes, and disregard for the legal rights of terrorists.
from NRO...bayback...this whole thing is a political bludgeon to beat GWB over the head with
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
The important thing, after all the arguing is over and done with, is that Obama and Holder are able to demonstrate their own superiority - ethically and legally - over the hated enemies of humanity and Constitutionalism by treating these cases as if they were mere breaches of the peace and murder, as they so clearly are, and not as criminal acts committed in furtherance of an unconventional war by a non-state actor, which they most certainly are not.
Only by ensuring that these men are able to drag the evils of the previous administration's misguided, unethical, and anti-American policies into their cases and before a court, can the AG later find, with the concurrence of the Congress, correctly, that there is a preponderance of evidence to undertake prosecutions of the monsters under whose dominion this nation, and the world, suffered for so long.
385 | Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:26:45am |
Israel, Egypt squeeze Gaza tunnel business
RAFAH, Gaza Strip (Reuters) - Fearing loss of life and money, Palestinians are abandoning tunnels that supply the blockaded Gaza Strip with everything from food to fridges to weapons.
On the Gaza side of the border with Egypt, there is little activity in an area that was once as busy as an industrial zone.
Many tunnel workers have concluded that the risk of being buried alive by Israeli bombardment and accidental ground collapses or poisoned by gas pumped underground by Egyptian security forces is just not worth it. Around 100 people have been killed in the past year.
Uhh...WHAT??
386 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:27:16am |
Now they've done it, dammit...what was that again about loving the USPS?
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
387 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:28:41am |
re: #385 Ben Hur
Israel, Egypt squeeze Gaza tunnel business
Uhh...WHAT??
about time...attrition takes a toll...
I don't know much about this but have always said the tunnels be destroyed
388 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:28:56am |
ah... an Open Thread... the Lemon Sorbet - or pallet cleanser, if you will.
I trust we all survived the night? (in one piece at best - or a collection of repairable pieces if not)
389 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:29:16am |
re: #386 tradewind
Now they've done it, dammit...what was that again about loving the USPS?
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
You know, reality sucks big donkey balls.
390 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:29:24am |
re: #377 Cannadian Club Akbar
At least they are keeping it on the proper thread.
In my opinion, no matter how you see the issue about the NYC trial or Holder and Obama, you don't start accusing ALL Lizards of being like the SS, or calling them all fascists, or implying that they are no better then the leadership of North Korea or no different than some of the worst terrorist that ever lived.
That's what a certain Lizard did, supported by a few other far left progressives. No matter what direction the opinions took, what was interesting was the fact that the mask dropped, and they dropped hard.
We now know what certain Lizards really think of most of us. We now know that most of us are seen as unintelligent fools who's only good is for the entertainment of a few overlords. Other than that, we are worthless.
I can learn something from any situation, good or bad. I learned something last night, and I don't know about anyone else, but I will be using what I learned...
Take a hint folks... I won't be fooled again.
391 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:29:40am |
re: #385 Ben Hur
poisoned by gas pumped underground by Egyptian security forces is
Gas supplied by Saddam who got it from the USA in the 1st place, now resposible for killing innocent Pali lives
//lefty logic link to blame Bush the Elder
392 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:30:09am |
re: #388 wozzablog
ah... an Open Thread... the Lemon Sorbet - or pallet cleanser, if you will.
I trust we all survived the night? (in one piece at best - or a collection of repairable pieces if not)
I was blissfully unaware, all night long.
in bed
393 | Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:30:24am |
re: #387 albusteve
about time...attrition takes a toll...
I don't know much about this but have always said the tunnels be destroyed
Pumping poison gas into the tunnels.
You don't think that most anywhere else would be catching sh*t for doing something like that?
394 | Surabaya Stew Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:31:05am |
re: #383 lawhawk
The same critique that says that the delay somehow invalidates or makes the tribunals inferior is the same argument that could support them; by running so many of these issues through the courts, the legal system and the legislature and the President put together a process out of whole cloth that has the ability to try these cases. It takes time to make the process work and fulfill constitutional requirements as described by the Supreme Court.
Moreover, some of these issues were working in parallel; the tribunals were being put together, rights were being addressed by the Supreme Court (after appellate level and trial level action), and the tribunals themselves were questioned in the courts.
Now that these issues are sorted out, the tribunals are good to go - so says the Obama Administration.
Isn't the silver lining in all this that the military tribunal system should be good to go in the future, so that we don't have all this fighting over their validity repeated?
395 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:31:31am |
re: #393 Ben Hur
Pumping poison gas into the tunnels.
You don't think that most anywhere else would be catching sh*t for doing something like that?
You mean like our southern border?
396 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:31:31am |
re: #390 Walter L. Newton
In my opinion, no matter how you see the issue about the NYC trial or Holder and Obama, you don't start accusing ALL Lizards of being like the SS, or calling them all fascists, or implying that they are no better then the leadership of North Korea or no different than some of the worst terrorist that ever lived.
That's what a certain Lizard did, supported by a few other far left progressives. No matter what direction the opinions took, what was interesting was the fact that the mask dropped, and they dropped hard.
We now know what certain Lizards really think of most of us. We now know that most of us are seen as unintelligent fools who's only good is for the entertainment of a few overlords. Other than that, we are worthless.
I can learn something from any situation, good or bad. I learned something last night, and I don't know about anyone else, but I will be using what I learned...
Take a hint folks... I won't be fooled again.
In light of your post, I'll have to review the thread in depth.
later all
Have a great day.
397 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:32:31am |
398 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:32:44am |
Here's some wonderful stimulus news. The government sent $1 million of stimulus money (you know, the money that's supposed to stimulate job growth & the economy) to the University of Illinois to fund research on how to raise taxes. I shit you not.
399 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:32:46am |
400 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:33:00am |
Another day, another doctored claim from Gateway Pundit
At least the right-wing, Obama-hating site is consistent; it spreads lies on an almost daily basis. But I have to say, today's edition is particularly stunning in its brash disregard for the truth. It also provides a nice window into the world of conservative bloggers, where it seems people are actually encouraged to make stuff up.
401 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:33:17am |
re: #389 ggt
Or reindeer balls.
They could give up their coffee breaks. Ho-hos before Joes, bro's.
403 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:35:27am |
re: #390 Walter L. Newton
We now know that most of us are seen as unintelligent fools who's only good is for the entertainment of a few overlords. Other than that, we are worthless.
Did you really come away with that? I haven't read the whole thing, granted, it was too long and too depressing...
404 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:36:08am |
re: #390 Walter L. Newton
In my opinion, no matter how you see the issue about the NYC trial or Holder and Obama, you don't start accusing ALL Lizards of being like the SS, or calling them all fascists, or implying that they are no better then the leadership of North Korea or no different than some of the worst terrorist that ever lived.
That's what a certain Lizard did, supported by a few other far left progressives. No matter what direction the opinions took, what was interesting was the fact that the mask dropped, and they dropped hard.
We now know what certain Lizards really think of most of us. We now know that most of us are seen as unintelligent fools who's only good is for the entertainment of a few overlords. Other than that, we are worthless.
I can learn something from any situation, good or bad. I learned something last night, and I don't know about anyone else, but I will be using what I learned...
Take a hint folks... I won't be fooled again.
that deserve a robust 'no shit!'...like Phantom of the Opera imo
406 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:37:05am |
re: #393 Ben Hur
Pumping poison gas into the tunnels.
You don't think that most anywhere else would be catching sh*t for doing something like that?
just WAIT til the HRC gets on this one!!...yawn
407 | CapeCoddah Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:37:17am |
Morning, Folks...
Hope everyone is in one piece on this beautiful New England morning!
408 | CapeCoddah Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:38:13am |
re: #403 iceweasel
It is what I came away with, and I only read until this morning. Spot on, Walter.
409 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:38:27am |
Obama commenting on meeting with the troops: ' You guys make a great photo op'... and afterwards, when he mentioned a pay raise, ' now there's a real applause line'.
No wonder he doesn't want to go off 'prompter. Sometimes the real thoughts just slip out. He's still in campaign mode, one year out.
410 | Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:39:02am |
Every modern White House has put out news on contentious issues late on Friday in the hope that doing so will bury it, or reduce the amount of critical scrutiny it would otherwise receive. What is unusual is the degree to which this White House has relied on this tactic.
On Friday, Jan. 30, President Obama revoked the ban on giving taxpayer dollars to international groups that promote or perform abortions abroad. The president released his executive orders on detainee interrogations, closure of the Guantanamo prison, and new ethics rules during the previous week, his first in office.
On Friday, Feb. 27, Mr. Obama announced he would end U.S. combat activities in Iraq in 18 months. This was a much longer combat presence than his antiwar base wanted.
On Friday, April 17, Mr. Obama lifted some limits on the use of federal funds for the creation and subsequent destruction of human embryos for stem-cell research. The move won applause from some research advocates but also disappointed many "scientists who had expected a more liberal policy," according to the New York Times.
On Friday, May 15, Mr. Obama announced he would keep George W. Bush's military tribunals to try terrorist detainees, angering civil libertarians and antiwar activists in the Democratic Party's left wing who thought the administration would dismantle the entire Bush antiterror structure.
On Friday, Sept. 15, Mr. Obama admitted that it was unlikely he'd meet his own deadline of closing the Guantanamo detention facility in his first year in office, again angering left-wing supporters and demonstrating that exuberant promises made on the campaign trail and during his first days in office were ill-considered and naïve.
On Friday, Oct. 30, Mr. Obama delivered a double dose of late-breaking news. To respond to increasing criticism of the stimulus's failure to curb rising unemployment, the White House announced it had "created or saved" at least one million jobs since February. It hoped for one weekend in which the "million jobs created or saved" mantra had a relatively free and uncontested run before economists chewed the number up and spit it out. A week later, the unemployment rate hit 10.2%.
Then there was this past Friday, when the White House delivered a double news dose with a foreign twist. Attorney General Eric Holder announced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and five other terrorists would be tried in a civilian court in New York City rather than before a military tribunal. Later that day, the administration announced that White House Counsel Greg Craig was leaving and would be replaced by Democratic National Committee lawyer Bob Bauer. Mr. Obama? He was safely in the air flying to Asia, having left the day before with most of his press corps in tow.
411 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:39:11am |
re: #403 iceweasel
Did you really come away with that? I haven't read the whole thing, granted, it was too long and too depressing...
He was off the rails!
I've discussed this with him before (when he is challenged or questioned) he starts name calling. He even admitted to me he knew it and was wrong and would attempt to curtail it, yet every time he resorts to it
I'm sure he feels someone called him a name 1st. I could care less if thats true or not. YOU can call me a name, thats on you. YOU can't force me to respond in kind. If I do, thats on me, not you
412 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:39:28am |
re: #408 CapeCoddah
It is what I came away with, and I only read until this morning. Spot on, Walter.
I think I'll be avoiding reading more of it then.
413 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:39:45am |
re: #400 iceweasel
the upside is that the lies are coming from a blog pundit, unlike the the lies coming from the WH and congress
414 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:40:12am |
re: #412 iceweasel
I think I'll be avoiding reading more of it then.
Yeah, best not to wade into it. No one's finest hour.
415 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:40:50am |
re: #407 CapeCoddah
Morning, Folks...
Hope everyone is in one piece on this beautiful New England morning!
the sunrise over the Sandias here in ABQ was another gift...spectacular
416 | CapeCoddah Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:42:13am |
re: #412 iceweasel
I think I'll be avoiding reading more of it then.
Typical liberal dodge. Ignore the facts, spew what sounds warm and fuzzy.
417 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:42:33am |
re: #414 Guanxi88
there was some ok reasoned stuff in the thread - but not enough to make it worth putting yourself through the mill for it.
419 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:43:53am |
re: #417 wozzablog
there was some ok reasoned stuff in the thread - but not enough to make it worth putting yourself through the mill for it.
Easiest way to avoid the bad stuff is to read until you come to the first mention of North Korea, the PRC, Russia, the SS, or other avatars of evil. Everything after that's gonna be ugly.
420 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:44:07am |
re: #416 CapeCoddah
Typical liberal dodge. Ignore the facts, spew what sounds warm and fuzzy.
Typical conservative, spewing generalisations about all liberals. ///
421 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:44:20am |
re: #410 Ben Hur
Has the president commented on the fact that one of those congressional districts that has the ' saved jobs ', the 15th in AZ, just ... doesn't exist? Maybe he's saving that one for tomorrow.///
422 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:44:39am |
re: #416 CapeCoddah
Typical liberal dodge. Ignore the facts, spew what sounds warm and fuzzy.
I like 'doin the bob and weave'...got rhythm?
423 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:44:49am |
re: #420 iceweasel
Typical conservative, spewing generalisations about all liberals. ///
How's things in happy undisclosed North Atlantic location? Made that trip to Hoboken yet?
424 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:46:12am |
re: #417 wozzablog
there was some ok reasoned stuff in the thread - but not enough to make it worth putting yourself through the mill for it.
Lawhawk was solidly in control with the facts and appropriate questions...a masterpiece imo...the rest was just a throwback to the days of yore
425 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:46:12am |
Hoffman has completely lost it:
NY-23: Hoffman Accuses ACORN, Unions of ‘Tampering’ With Election
As the very, very small chance of a late upset vanishes in NY-23, Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman is lashing out and accusing “ACORN, the unions and the Democratic Party” of tampering with the election.Hoffman’s getting some brushback from local Republicans. George Williams, chairman of the Oswego County Republicans, says Hoffman’s wrong and says the party is “not going to take the blame because he didn’t hold his concession speech.” I was in the district in the run-up to the election, when Hoffman accused Democrats or ACORN of slashing a campaign worker’s tires; when that charge turned out to be baseless, ACORN spokesmen informed me that they had no volunteers in the district. While ACORN’s credibility has been challenged left and right lately, its very public implosion would seem to back that up.
This isn’t the sort of behavior that wins over a skeptical electorate looking at a possible rematch between Hoffman and Rep. Bill Owens (D-N.Y.).
426 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:47:33am |
The neighbor is smoking mullet. Mmmm...
427 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:47:50am |
re: #425 iceweasel
What, because everyone knows that ACORN would never, ever, mess with an election.///?
Especially in NY.
428 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:47:54am |
429 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:47:56am |
re: #425 iceweasel
Hoffman has completely lost it:
NY-23: Hoffman Accuses ACORN, Unions of ‘Tampering’ With Election
really, why would anybody be suspicious of ACORN?...little old ladies have to get to the polls somehow
430 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:48:32am |
re: #426 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fish, or he's rockin' a retro hairdo?
431 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:48:37am |
re: #423 Guanxi88
How's things in happy undisclosed North Atlantic location? Made that trip to Hoboken yet?
Romantic Hoboken has to wait til next month; that's when we'll be gettin' wed.
Right now we're in the seekrit mountain lair in Scotland. Very windy and rainy and the wind is howling, but Jimmah just made me some tea and all's right with the world. How's by you?
432 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:48:47am |
re: #426 Cannadian Club Akbar
The neighbor is smoking mullet. Mmmm...
Does it smell like burning hair?
433 | freetoken Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:48:58am |
re: #400 iceweasel
The actual MM account is probably a trivial example, but in general I agree that GWPundit is a classic example of Wingnuttery.
434 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:49:02am |
435 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:49:30am |
re: #403 iceweasel
Did you really come away with that? I haven't read the whole thing, granted, it was too long and too depressing...
Really... you and Jimmah seemed right into the fray... don't know how you missed anything... you were down dinging Lizards right and left... arguing with Lizards... maybe we are talking about a different blog... I DON'T THING SO.
436 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:49:34am |
437 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:49:40am |
re: #427 tradewind
What, because everyone knows that ACORN would never, ever, mess with an election.///?
Especially in NY.
Well, when they weren't even working in that district, it's a little bonkers, yeah.
438 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:50:13am |
re: #425 iceweasel
ACORN volunteers are like roaches... they may scatter when the light is flipped on, but they'll reappear from the nest as soon as the coast is clear.
439 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:50:51am |
re: #412 iceweasel
I think I'll be avoiding reading more of it then.
You don't have to read more of it... you were an on the spot reporter last night... I don't know why you now act like you were just a drive by bystander.
440 | Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:51:00am |
re: #421 tradewind
Has the president commented on the fact that one of those congressional districts that has the ' saved jobs ', the 15th in AZ, just ... doesn't exist? Maybe he's saving that one for tomorrow.///
They do exist.
In the 7 extra states that don't exist.
441 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:51:02am |
re: #435 Walter L. Newton
Really... you and Jimmah seemed right into the fray... don't know how you missed anything... you were down dinging Lizards right and left... arguing with Lizards... maybe we are talking about a different blog... I DON'T THING SO.
I left the fray, Walter. Would have updinged more of LVQ if I could, but some of the ugly going on was too much.
442 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:51:22am |
443 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:52:01am |
what we can look forward to with Holders trials...anybody read the links?...democrats want to chime in?...here we go...
How many years? Terrorists bombed the U.S. embassies in 1998. It took three years to bring four of them to trial. (There would have been a fifth, but the civilian system failed to detain him securely: He maimed a prison guard during an escape attempt and was never brought to trial for the bombings.) The embassy-bombing trial took seven months to complete and failed to result in death sentences for the two capital defendants. Guess when the appeal was decided? Just a few months ago — eleven years after the attacks and eight years after the trial. The convictions were upheld by the appellate court, so now we move on to the Supreme Court. Once that’s done, they’ll have a couple of years to relitigate their trial and sentences by filing habeas corpus motions.
wheee!
444 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:52:15am |
Here is the crazy letter Hoffman is circulating:
Dear Fellow Conservative,
As evidence surfaces, we find out that reported results from election night were far from accurate. ACORN and the unions did their best to try and sway the results to Obamacare supporter Bill Owens.
I was forced to concede after receiving two pieces of grim news – - down 5,335 votes with 93 percent of the vote counted on election night – and barely won my stronghold in Oswego County. On Election Night, the information we received was far different from what we received this week!
Rest assured, they will not succeed, and I am therefore revoking my statement of concession.
That is why I am writing you today. Recent developments leave me to wonder who is scheming behind closed doors, twisting arms and stealing elections from the voters of NY-23.
I’m sure you are as dismayed as I am to learn of the mischief that took place in Oswego and neighboring counties. We know this would not be the first time for the ACORN faithful to tamper with democracy.
Now it’s time to actually count every legal ballot and I need your help to ensure the people of NY-23 get the Congressman THEY ELECTED. Please donate now to help me ensure every vote is counted!
A recanvassing in the 11-county district shows Owens’ lead has narrowed to 3,026. In Oswego County, I was reported to lead by only 500 votes with 93 percent of the vote counted election night, but inspectors found I actually won by 1,748 votes
Let’s force them keep this recanvassing active! Let’s give this election a chance to end differently!
Oswego County elections officials blame the mistakes on “chaos“ in their call-in center that included a phone system foul-up, and on inspectors who read numbers incorrectly when phoning in results. This sounds like a tactic right from the ACORN playbook.The district’s second biggest voter turnout was in Jefferson County, where I had also benefited from a turnaround since election night, gaining another 700 votes. Owens led by 300 votes on the final election night tally, but after recanvassing, I’m now leading by 424 votes.
Jerry Eaton, the Republican elections commissioner for Jefferson County, said inspectors found a problem in four districts where my vote total was mistakenly entered as zero.
The new vote totals mean the race will be decided by absentee ballots, of which the state Board of Elections distributed about 10,200.
The people of NY-23 deserve to have their ballots counted properly, but we can’t let ACORN or the unions keep that from happening. They have more lawyers and more experience tampering with democracy.
State Board of Elections Communications Director John Conklin said the state sent a letter to the House Clerk last week explaining that no winner had been determined in the 23rd District.
Now it’s time to actually count every legal ballot and I need your help to ensure the people of NY-23 get the Congressman THEY ELECTED. Please donate now to help me ensure every vote is counted!
We need to make sure that fair elections are a reality in NY-23, just like our Founding Fathers envisioned So long as we remain the “land of the free,” we MUST ensure every vote is counted.
Help us today so we may be the first of many conservative victories during the Obama Regime.
Yours in Freedom,
Doug Hoffman
445 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:52:30am |
re: #431 iceweasel
Romantic Hoboken has to wait til next month; that's when we'll be gettin' wed.
No, ya gotta go to Hoboken in the spring, or you miss the charm of the place! (Congrats on next month's wedding, again.
Right now we're in the seekrit mountain lair in Scotland. Very windy and rainy and the wind is howling, but Jimmah just made me some tea and all's right with the world. How's by you?
Mountain lair, eh? Very nice. What's your tea, by the way? Drinking a nice pu-erh this a.m. All's well here in Central Texas.
446 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:52:34am |
re: #435 Walter L. Newton
Really... you and Jimmah seemed right into the fray... don't know how you missed anything... you were down dinging Lizards right and left... arguing with Lizards... maybe we are talking about a different blog... I DON'T THING SO.
ugh ,,, tis my Birthday. Please don't get anyone, including yourself (re)wound up about last night (at least until I leave here in about an hour)
447 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:53:31am |
re: #441 iceweasel
I left the fray, Walter. Would have updinged more of LVQ if I could, but some of the ugly going on was too much.
And Jimmah had your back... as I said above "That's what a certain Lizard did, supported by a few other far left progressives...," "the mask dropped, and they dropped hard...," "We now know what certain Lizards really think of most of us."
Like I said... we won't get fooled again. (at least I won't).
448 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:54:19am |
re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar
Today is National Smoke Out day. Wonder how many Lizards that indulge in the weed will take that the wrong way.
/
I posted this earlier. I didn't name names, but you know who you are.:)
449 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:54:40am |
re: #433 freetoken
The actual MM account is probably a trivial example, but in general I agree that GWPundit is a classic example of Wingnuttery.
The comments section over there is a real swamp IIRC. Didn't he use to be sane, years ago?
450 | freetoken Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:55:08am |
re: #444 iceweasel
Yes, more wingnuttery disguised as serious governance. Unfortunate for Hoffman, his #1 backer is soaking up all the media attention (that isn't already focused on the KSM trial.)
451 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:55:32am |
re: #421 tradewind
Has the president commented on the fact that one of those congressional districts that has the ' saved jobs ', the 15th in AZ, just ... doesn't exist? Maybe he's saving that one for tomorrow.///
Biden was on John Stewart last night and threw locals (the ones that reported the job #'s) under the bus saying they fill out a form and don't know their district # and that form is transposed to the official recovery website. Biden said it was something like 80 workers out of 1700
feh!
452 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:55:33am |
Family: Father shot teen son over contact with 3-year-old girl
Highland Park -- A 37-year-old man was arraigned today in 30th District Court after being accused of shooting his teenage son execution-style while the boy pleaded for his life.
Jamar Pinkney Sr. faces one count of first-degree murder, three counts of felonious assault and one count of felony firearm.
Judge Bridgette Officer today in court ordered Pinkney Sr. to be held without bond as he awaits a preliminary exam on Dec. 1.
The courtroom was packed with emotional family members, including one who broke down and was escorted out of the room.
Police allege Pinkney marched his naked son, Jamar Jr., 15, out of a home at gunpoint near Rosa Parks and North Tuesday, and forced him into an adjacent grassy field. Investigators say the father made his son kneel before shooting him in the back of the head. Relatives said Jamar Jr. was pleading for his life as he was shot.
Highland Park police officials said the shooting occurred after an argument between the suspect and his son.
Relatives said Jamar Jr. recently admitted that he'd had inappropriate physical contact with a 3-year-old several months ago.
Jamar's aunt, Yolanda Cherry, said a relative took the girl to a doctor to be examined on Sunday, and that there were no indications of sexual abuse.
453 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:55:35am |
re: #413 albusteve
the upside is that the lies are coming from a blog pundit, unlike the the lies coming from the WH and congress
I found MediaMatters calling someone out for misleading video clips to be more than just a little ironic.
454 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:56:32am |
455 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:56:33am |
While researching my daughters current diagnosis of intestinal motility, I read this and just had to share:
"passing gas more than the normal 14-23 times a day"
Never realized I farted so much and apparently my wife dos to and should stop complaining.
456 | CapeCoddah Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:56:34am |
re: #420 iceweasel
Typical conservative, spewing generalisations about all liberals. ///
I do not generalize, my opinion comes from living my entire life in a corrupt liberal infested state, and seeing what I see. Liberals using lies, half truths, and distortions to screw everyone in sight. My opinion is fact based, judged by the thousands of conversations I have with libs who do not bother to check facts, and only like the warm and fuzzy baloney. We live in the real world. Reality frequently sucks. Warm and fuzzy applies to babies, teddy bears and high altitude hiking gear.
457 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:56:53am |
re: #447 Walter L. Newton
And Jimmah had your back... as I said above "That's what a certain Lizard did, supported by a few other far left progressives...," "the mask dropped, and they dropped hard...," "We now know what certain Lizards really think of most of us."
Like I said... we won't get fooled again. (at least I won't).
You're nuts if you think I think that way about you. I don't even think LVQ thinks that way! I think things got a little out of control all over the place in that thread. But as I said, there's a big chunk of it I haven't read.
458 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:56:58am |
re: #424 albusteve
rightwingconspirator and I talked across everyone else and had a nice chat. I scanned everyone else - there were high points and low points among both sides. The lows considerably greater than the highs unfortunately.
I saw the uglyness reach critical mass and decided to bugger off.
460 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:57:42am |
re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar
Today is National Smoke Out day. Wonder how many Lizards that indulge in the weed will take that the wrong way.
/
For those who insist on using tobacco, or who are hopelessly in love with Lady N, let me suggest you look into harm-mitigation strategies. There are some alternative tobacco products with far lower risks to health (none are safe. I repeat, none are safe) that are every bit as satisfying to the nicotine habit, and are far cheaper than cigarettes.
For those looking to quit, see a Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioner, if you've tried everything else and not met with success. Most are giving free treatments today.
461 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:58:14am |
re: #443 albusteve
It's puzzling to me why Holder is so interested in KSM getting a fair trial when he's already publicly convicted him by saying there is ' no way he is not getting convicted'.
If that's true, let's save the money and the hassle.
On the other hand, there's OJ...
462 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:58:19am |
re: #448 Cannadian Club Akbar
I posted this earlier. I didn't name names, but you know who you are.:)
quit looking at me!
464 | freetoken Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:58:53am |
re: #449 iceweasel
The comments section over there is a real swamp IIRC. Didn't he use to be sane, years ago?
Not as far as I can remember. I took GWP out of my bookmarks a couple of years ago when it really started to go downhill. It was always part of the religious right (as far as I can remember), but when the 2008 election primary process started to get underway the RR started to go especially bonkers once it became clear that the leading GOP candidates were going to include a Mormon, a cross-dresser, and a military guy who didn't think the US should be torturing people.
465 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:58:53am |
[liberals] screw everyone in sight
liberals do have the best sex lives - gotta think three dimensionally about modern sexuallity these days ;-)
467 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:59:14am |
re: #453 RogueOne
I found MediaMatters calling someone out for misleading video clips to be more than just a little ironic.
who cares...it's no big deal...there are liars everywhere, you could spend everyday finding that stuff, that's what MM is for
468 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:59:24am |
re: #446 sattv4u2
ugh ,,, tis my Birthday. Please don't get anyone, including yourself (re)wound up about last night (at least until I leave here in about an hour)
Happy Birthday!
re: #445 Guanxi88
Mountain lair, eh? Very nice. What's your tea, by the way? Drinking a nice pu-erh this a.m. All's well here in Central Texas.
This is whatever I found at the pound shop-- some basic orange pekoe ish thing I assume. Need more!
469 | RogueOne Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:00:02am |
re: #452 NJDhockeyfan
wow. I'm kinda torn between giving the father a medal and putting a needle in his arm. What an ugly story.
470 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:00:05am |
re: #465 wozzablog
Actually, a survey done independently and highly publicized a few years ago showed that Republicans had much more satisfying sex lives than Democrats, which presumably translates into liberal v conservative.
471 | Surabaya Stew Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:00:12am |
re: #455 Jeff In Ohio
While researching my daughters current diagnosis of intestinal motility, I read this and just had to share:
"passing gas more than the normal 14-23 times a day"
Never realized I farted so much and apparently my wife dos to and should stop complaining.
What, don't all reptiles fart 14-23 times a day?
/
472 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:00:31am |
re: #457 iceweasel
You're nuts if you think I think that way about you. I don't even think LVQ thinks that way! I think things got a little out of control all over the place in that thread. But as I said, there's a big chunk of it I haven't read.
a "little out of control"...okay. got it
473 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:00:49am |
re: #469 RogueOne
wow. I'm kinda torn between giving the father a medal and putting a needle in his arm. What an ugly story.
Yup. There are no winners in that mess.
474 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:01:04am |
re: #457 iceweasel
You're nuts if you think I think that way about you. I don't even think LVQ thinks that way! I think things got a little out of control all over the place in that thread. But as I said, there's a big chunk of it I haven't read.
And of course, start off the comment with a slam, one of Ludwig's favorite words... nuts. You can't help it, can you?
I'll stay nuts and keep my back covered. I paid real close attention to that thread, to what was being said, to what was going on in the background (up dings, down dings), I'm really not stupid, even though I am consistently told by Ludwig that I am.
475 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:01:22am |
re: #467 albusteve
who cares...it's no big deal...there are liars everywhere, you could spend everyday finding that stuff, that's what MM is for
Convienently, all the liars they find are people they disagree with!
477 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:01:36am |
re: #458 wozzablog
rightwingconspirator and I talked across everyone else and had a nice chat. I scanned everyone else - there were high points and low points among both sides. The lows considerably greater than the highs unfortunately.
I saw the uglyness reach critical mass and decided to bugger off.
pretty much the same for me...I said my piece and was gone like a cool breeze
478 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:02:14am |
IBM takes a (feline) step toward thinking machines
Scientists say they've made a breakthrough in their pursuit of computers that "think" like a living thing's brain — an effort that tests the limits of technology.
Even the world's most powerful supercomputers can't replicate basic aspects of the human mind. The machines can't imagine a wall painted a different color, for instance, or picture a person's face and connect that to an emotion.
If researchers can make computers operate more like a brain thinks — by reasoning and dealing with abstractions, among other things — they could unleash tremendous insights in such diverse fields as medicine and economics.
A computer with the power of a human brain is not yet near. But this week researchers from IBM Corp. are reporting that they've simulated a cat's cerebral cortex, the thinking part of the brain, using a massive supercomputer. The computer has 147,456 processors (most modern PCs have just one or two processors) and 144 terabytes of main memory — 100,000 times as much as your computer has.
Meow!
479 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:02:59am |
re: #478 NJDhockeyfan
I'm in ur hard drive, runnin ur machine.
480 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:03:11am |
re: #475 Athens Runaway
Convienently, all the liars they find are people they disagree with!
what the!...well I'll be a monkeys uncle!
481 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:03:33am |
re: #478 NJDhockeyfan
IBM takes a (feline) step toward thinking machines
Meow!
Dey can haz terabytes?
482 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:03:59am |
re: #438 tradewind
ACORN volunteers are like roaches... they may scatter when the light is flipped on, but they'll reappear from the nest as soon as the coast is clear.
Dehumanizing the enemy is the first step towards atrocity.
483 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:04:03am |
re: #478 NJDhockeyfan
It still won't come over when you call it...Next LoL Comps.
484 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:04:21am |
re: #470 tradewind
you are forgetting the Libertarians who caucus as Republicans... do what you want with who you want long as everyone agrees :-p
They would probably object to being put into the Pat Robertson wing of the party on this ;-)
Gotta love the libertarians - and i do - frequently ;-)
485 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:04:56am |
re: #474 Walter L. Newton
And of course, start off the comment with a slam, one of Ludwig's favorite words... nuts. You can't help it, can you?
I'll stay nuts and keep my back covered. I paid real close attention to that thread, to what was being said, to what was going on in the background (up dings, down dings), I'm really not stupid, even though I am consistently told by Ludwig that I am.
in that regard, it was the best thread in at least a year, maybe more...I've never really seen so much self inflicted damage...hahaha!
486 | badger1970 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:05:58am |
re: #460 Guanxi88
Caffeine, candy and binge eating (just down to large amounts of Mountain Dew) is what I did as an alternative, now that the price of a pack has doubled in the last three years, I found enough incentive to stop cold.
The guidance counselor at the middle school asked me backhandedly if I wanted a Smoke Out baseball cap. *urg*
487 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:06:08am |
re: #482 Decatur Deb
Dehumanizing the enemy is the first step towards atrocity.
Yes, because I'm sure that tradewind wants to genocide ACORN workers.
//
488 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:06:35am |
re: #474 Walter L. Newton
And of course, start off the comment with a slam, one of Ludwig's favorite words... nuts. You can't help it, can you?
I'll stay nuts and keep my back covered. I paid real close attention to that thread, to what was being said, to what was going on in the background (up dings, down dings), I'm really not stupid, even though I am consistently told by Ludwig that I am.
Walter, I don't think you're stupid, as should be obvious, and clearly I was using the word 'nuts' just now in a colloquial sense. Your whole comment here is about Ludwig as though I were him. (he?) I am not.
489 | Gearhead Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:06:38am |
re: #478 NJDhockeyfan
I wonder what it thinks of being controlled by a mouse.
490 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:07:00am |
re: #479 Mad Al-Jaffee
al his base are belong to you???
491 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:07:12am |
re: #485 albusteve
in that regard, it was the best thread in at least a year, maybe more...I've never really seen so much self inflicted damage...hahaha!
That's exactly what I was saying in my first post this morning. The mask's fell, we now know how a lot of us are viewed by the progressives here.
Major fail.
492 | CapeCoddah Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:07:22am |
Well, headed out to pull up my 5 lobster traps for the winter, and park the boat in the garage... last of the lobster dinners tonight until April. Maybe I will dig up a bucket of quahogs for chowder too.
See you all tonight!
494 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:08:16am |
re: #488 iceweasel
Walter, I don't think you're stupid, as should be obvious, and clearly I was using the word 'nuts' just now in a colloquial sense. Your whole comment here is about Ludwig as though I were him. (he?) I am not.
Birds of a feather...
495 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:09:23am |
496 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:09:24am |
re: #475 Athens Runaway
Convienently, all the liars they find are people they disagree with!
Yes, but that's because they're explicitly dedicated to identifying examples of conservative bias in the media-- not liberal.
Really, the right needs an organisation like Media Matters to identify instances of liberal bias. All they have now is the MRC which is a joke.
497 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:09:51am |
498 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:09:55am |
re: #491 Walter L. Newton
we now know how a lot of us are viewed by the progressives here.
some - not a lot - and not all the progressives.
499 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:10:10am |
re: #457 iceweasel
You're nuts if you think I think that way about you. I don't even think LVQ thinks that way! I think things got a little out of control all over the place in that thread. But as I said, there's a big chunk of it I haven't read.
Please read and consider my #411. A one time "got hot under the collar" is one thing, but when it's a pattern it's a problem, imho
501 | CapeCoddah Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:10:53am |
re: #496 iceweasel
One does not need to look far to see the zenith glare of MSM liberal bias. One can see it from Jupiter.
502 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:10:58am |
re: #487 Athens Runaway
Yes, because I'm sure that tradewind wants to genocide ACORN workers.
//
It always starts somewhere.
503 | gregb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:11:01am |
504 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:11:23am |
re: #498 wozzablog
some - not a lot - and not all the progressives.
After all the back stabbing last night... I'm making it easy for myself... I'll start with "ALL" and sort them out later.
505 | CapeCoddah Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:11:33am |
re: #500 tradewind
LOL, PITA, wth a little butter, goes great with chowder!
506 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:12:06am |
re: #498 wozzablog
some - not a lot - and not all the progressives.
they all look alike to me...maybe they could wear colored arm bands or whatever so I can see the distinction...liberalism is a matter of degrees...too much of it poisons the brain
507 | Areozol Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:12:22am |
I have an urgent task for Lizaroids from L.A.
A dude called Joseph Moshe was arrested for a charge of making false bomb threat.
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
Now this:
[Link: www.google.pl...]
There are lots of webpages, that are claiming, that he was in fact a "Mossad's microbiologist" who was going to tell about swine flu conspiracy related to Ukraine outbreak. Of course this is ridiculus
And now: who is "Dr. A. True Ott", a radio host, who is claiming, that this dude had telephoned to him?
508 | Wozza Matter? Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:13:09am |
kids - i'm out.
will see you all on the flip.
510 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:14:28am |
re: #507 Areozol
I have an urgent task for Lizaroids from L.A.
A dude called Joseph Moshe was arrested for a charge of making false bomb threat.
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
Now this:
[Link: www.google.pl...]
There are lots of webpages, that are claiming, that he was in fact a "Mossad's microbiologist" who was going to tell about swine flu conspiracy related to Ukraine outbreak. Of course this is ridiculus
And now: who is "Dr. A. True Ott", a radio host, who is claiming, that this dude had telephoned to him?
[Video]
And what is the task that is so urgent that you forgot to ask?
511 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:14:50am |
513 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:16:47am |
re: #509 Rightwingconspirator
Seen Newsbusters?
ice called that "a joke."
MM=legitimate, SERIOUS BUSINESS
Newsbusters=a joke
514 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:18:27am |
ive months ago, when al-Qaeda jihadist Ali Saleh Kallah al-Marri pleaded guilty, it was obvious that the Justice Department had given him a sweetheart deal. On Thursday, a federal judge in Illinois dutifully finished the job. Al-Marri, a committed sleeper operative sent by our enemies to carry out a post-9/11 second wave of mass-murder attacks inside the United States, was given an appalling sentence: He’ll be eligible for release in about six years.
When al-Marri entered his plea back in May, Attorney General Eric Holder crowed that the case demonstrated the criminal-justice system’s capacity to confront and quell international terrorism. As I observed at the time, though, the plea bargain was a travesty. It marked a dramatic step backwards even from the wayward 1990s philosophy that saw international terrorism as strictly a law-enforcement issue, not a national-defense matter.
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
anybody reading this stuff?
515 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:18:27am |
Just noticed 9/11 trials thread coming up on 1400 comments. Is that near a record around here?
516 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:18:29am |
re: #509 Rightwingconspirator
Seen Newsbusters?
yeah, but I haven't found them to be reliable, and they don't seem to be nearly as large an organisation nor as thorough as Media Matters. I don't know if it's funding or what.
517 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:18:56am |
re: #119 TheMatrix31
As much of a conservative as I try to be...personally, the no-smoking indoors ban in CA is probably the best law they've passed in years.
I was fine with smoking bans until it spread to Atlantic City Casino's My gambling friend thinks drinking, smoking and gambling are all one big, fun vice.
They tried a total ban, but fell back to 25% of the casino being set aside for smokers after business tanked. Now I either have to take her to Nevada, a Indian casino, or play the higher limit tables set aside for the smokers.
The unions are pushing for a total ban, and if they get it, the dealers may well fine a smoke free job flipping burgers when the casino's fail.
519 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:19:29am |
re: #513 Athens Runaway
ice called that "a joke."
MM=legitimate, SERIOUS BUSINESS
Newsbusters=a joke
The MRC and Brent Bozell are a joke. Sorry to tell you, but they are.
520 | Gearhead Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:19:41am |
re: #515 Rightwingconspirator
Just noticed 9/11 trials thread coming up on 1400 comments. Is that near a record around here?
I've seen a few hit over 2000. Plays hell with Internet Explorer.
521 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:19:49am |
re: #515 Rightwingconspirator
Just noticed 9/11 trials thread coming up on 1400 comments. Is that near a record around here?
not even close...over 5k is the record I think, back in the day
522 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:20:02am |
re: #507 Areozol
And now: who is "Dr. A. True Ott", a radio host, who is claiming, that this dude had telephoned to him?
[Video]
Appears to be a radio host on the "Rense Radio Network."
Yes, that Rense.
Dabbles heavily in conspiracy theories. Runs in Ron Paul circles.
523 | Ericus58 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:20:37am |
re: #482 Decatur Deb
these are just the kind of 'zingers' that lead to no good... why do that?
524 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:20:40am |
re: #515 Rightwingconspirator
Just noticed 9/11 trials thread coming up on 1400 comments. Is that near a record around here?
Not sure, but during an Obama speech we'll hit 1100 in about 45 minutes.
525 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:20:45am |
re: #519 iceweasel
The MRC and Brent Bozell are a joke. Sorry to tell you, but they are.
And MediaMatters is SERIOUS BUSINESS. SRSLY.
No need to get snarky with me, I was just repeating what you said.
526 | Areozol Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:20:58am |
re: #510 Walter L. Newton
And what is the task that is so urgent that you forgot to ask?
I'm just asking you to give me some background about a "Dr. A. True Ott".
I'm just now discussing on forum with some paranoid dude, who is buying this whole crap, so i need some details to prove this dude wrong. I Googled, and It seems, that this man is running few paranoid webpages and YouTube channels.
527 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:21:19am |
528 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:21:21am |
re: #516 iceweasel
I skim through and see some good catches from time to time. I think I have the bias thing figured out anyway as a ratings baiting game at least as much as a partisan thing. Long term I mean.
529 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:21:22am |
re: #517 avanti
I was fine with smoking bans until it spread to Atlantic City Casino's My gambling friend thinks drinking, smoking and gambling are all one big, fun vice.
They tried a total ban, but fell back to 25% of the casino being set aside for smokers after business tanked. Now I either have to take her to Nevada, a Indian casino, or play the higher limit tables set aside for the smokers.
The unions are pushing for a total ban, and if they get it, the dealers may well fine a smoke free job flipping burgers when the casino's fail.
Always the same thing... the liberals like to tell us what to do in every room of our house (and other people's houses) until it effects them, and they they find themselves in a catch-22 backlash.
Looks silly.
530 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:22:00am |
re: #523 Ericus58
these are just the kind of 'zingers' that lead to no good... why do that?
Because it's true?
531 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:22:26am |
re: #525 Athens Runaway
And MediaMatters is SERIOUS BUSINESS. SRSLY.
No need to get snarky with me, I was just repeating what you said.
Media Matters works harder at keeping the opinion and analysis separate from the fact checking operation. Not always successfully.
532 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:22:32am |
re: #528 Rightwingconspirator
All my favorite threads & lizards give me reading to do the next day.
533 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:22:44am |
re: #524 Cannadian Club Akbar
Not sure, but during an Obama speech we'll hit 1100 in about 45 minutes.
those are a riot, when Charles posts with us...drink!
534 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:23:37am |
re: #504 Walter L. Newton
After all the back stabbing last night... I'm making it easy for myself... I'll start with "ALL" and sort them out later.
I did not jump in the thread last evening, but honestly enjoyed the different opinions. I did not like some of the mud slinging however.
535 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:24:40am |
re: #524 Cannadian Club Akbar
:) Sheesh you guys are smarter than me. I can't pay attention and type something else cogent at the same time!
536 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:25:17am |
Has this been posted?
Hasan's Supervisor Warned Army in 2007
Two years ago, a top psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center was so concerned about what he saw as Nidal Hasan's incompetence and reckless behavior that he put those concerns in writing. NPR has obtained a copy of the memo, the first evaluation that has surfaced from Hasan's file.
Officials at Walter Reed sent that memo to Fort Hood this year when Hasan was transferred there.
Nevertheless, commanders still assigned Hasan — accused of killing 13 people in a mass shooting at Fort Hood on Nov. 5 — to work with some of the Army's most troubled and vulnerable soldiers.
When shown the memo, two leading psychiatrists said it was so damning, it might have sunk Hasan's career if he had applied for a job outside the Army.
memo at the link. What a mess.
537 | jaunte Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:26:14am |
re: #534 avanti
I did not like some of the mud slinging however.
It really clogs up the thread and hinders real information exchange.
538 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:26:50am |
re: #534 avanti
anyone good for a script/search string/function thingie that excludes posts with insults?
539 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:26:53am |
re: #536 iceweasel
Has this been posted?
Hasan's Supervisor Warned Army in 2007
When shown the memo, two leading psychiatrists said it was so damning, it might have sunk Hasan's career if he had applied for a job outside the Army.memo at the link. What a mess.
NPR seems to be all over the Hasan case.
540 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:27:15am |
re: #535 Rightwingconspirator
:) Sheesh you guys are smarter than me. I can't pay attention and type something else cogent at the same time!
It's a blast!!! Sometimes ya just gotta yell UNCLE!!!
541 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:27:25am |
re: #537 jaunte
It really clogs up the thread and hinders real information exchange.
it is what it is...revealing too
542 | badger1970 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:27:27am |
re: #481 Guanxi88
What cats hear. Thanks to Gary Larson in which this was based off of.
543 | jaunte Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:28:03am |
re: #541 albusteve
There is some information provided, but it does get repetitive.
544 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:28:55am |
Alcohol 'protects men's hearts'
Drinking alcohol every day cuts the risk of heart disease in men by more than a third, a major study suggests.
The Spanish research involving more than 15,500 men and 26,000 women found large quantities of alcohol could be even more beneficial for men.
Female drinkers did not benefit to the same extent, the study in Heart found.
545 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:29:12am |
re: #538 Rightwingconspirator
anyone good for a script/search string/function thingie that excludes posts with insults?
Lacecurtainware.
546 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:29:29am |
547 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:29:43am |
re: #536 iceweasel
Might have sunk him? Might have?
No wonder the specialty has a higher proportion of suicides and drug/alcohol abuse than any other in medicine.
548 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:29:59am |
549 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:30:15am |
re: #529 Walter L. Newton
Always the same thing... the liberals like to tell us what to do in every room of our house (and other people's houses) until it effects them, and they they find themselves in a catch-22 backlash.
Looks silly.
I fall in the middle on a smoking ban I guess. I like to dine in a smoke free restaurant, but would like to see bar owners have a choice. If I'm tossing beers with a none smoker, I could chose a smoke free bar, if with a smoker, give us a bar to frequent. If a bar owner feels he'll do better either way, it should be his choice.If workers don't like the risk of second hand smoke, they can fine another job.
551 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:30:58am |
re: #544 NJDhockeyfan
Large quantities?
I thought any benefit was negated after a certain, moderate level per day, two drinks for men and slightly less than one for women?
552 | Gearhead Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:31:17am |
553 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:31:38am |
re: #543 jaunte
There is some information provided, but it does get repetitive.
I lurked out after a bit...been there, done that...I got two black eyes this morning
554 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:32:00am |
re: #549 avanti
I fall in the middle on a smoking ban I guess. I like to dine in a smoke free restaurant, but would like to see bar owners have a choice. If I'm tossing beers with a none smoker, I could chose a smoke free bar, if with a smoker, give us a bar to frequent. If a bar owner feels he'll do better either way, it should be his choice.If workers don't like the risk of second hand smoke, they can fine another job.
But the free market is broken, we need gubbamint to decide things for us!1!!!1 /liberal
Seriously though, you're absolutely correct.
555 | jaunte Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:32:12am |
556 | sattv4u2 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:32:45am |
re: #549 avanti
I fall in the middle on a smoking ban I guess. I like to dine in a smoke free restaurant, but would like to see bar owners have a choice. If I'm tossing beers with a none smoker, I could chose a smoke free bar, if with a smoker, give us a bar to frequent. If a bar owner feels he'll do better either way, it should be his choice.If workers don't like the risk of second hand smoke, they can fine another job.
FINALLY you make sense. I'm proud of ya!
557 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:33:39am |
re: #538 Rightwingconspirator
anyone good for a script/search string/function thingie that excludes posts with insults?
No, I think Lizards should be free to express their opinions freely, and we can judge how we feel about how snarks from either side of a discussion weigh on those opinions.
558 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:33:42am |
re: #535 Rightwingconspirator
:) Sheesh you guys are smarter than me. I can't pay attention and type something else cogent at the same time!
I gave up trying to follow two threads at once. Sometimes I have to blow off 2/3 of the interesting comments in a single thread.
559 | Areozol Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:34:08am |
Whoa, this "Dr. Otto" is a real nutjob:
[Link: www.rense.com...]
560 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:34:13am |
re: #549 avanti
I fall in the middle on a smoking ban I guess. I like to dine in a smoke free restaurant, but would like to see bar owners have a choice. If I'm tossing beers with a none smoker, I could chose a smoke free bar, if with a smoker, give us a bar to frequent. If a bar owner feels he'll do better either way, it should be his choice.If workers don't like the risk of second hand smoke, they can fine another job.
well the point is, none of that matters does it?...it's not about you it's about property rights and personal freedom...why do you never express yourself in those terms?
561 | Gearhead Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:34:36am |
re: #538 Rightwingconspirator
anyone good for a script/search string/function thingie that excludes posts with insults?
I can name that regular expression in 8 characters!
/Charles
562 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:34:36am |
re: #547 tradewind
Might have sunk him? Might have?
No wonder the specialty has a higher proportion of suicides and drug/alcohol abuse than any other in medicine.
I thought that was dentists, for some reason.
This is awful:
The memo does have a couple of qualifications that say something positive about Hasan. It says, "He is able to self-correct with supervision." And Moran writes, "I am not able to say he is not competent to graduate."Officials at Walter Reed told NPR that those statements were very carefully worded. What they convey is that when Hasan's supervisors read him the riot act — when they gave him intensive supervision — he would improve just enough so that they had to tell their commanders: "Hasan is capable of doing better."
But officials say nobody has the time to supervise a doctor that closely.
They say he saw only a tenth of the patients other doctors would, and that he let a homicidal patient escape? How did any of this happen?
563 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:35:12am |
564 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:35:59am |
re: #559 Areozol
I didn't read the whole thing, but he is right about one of his assertions... Snopes, that revered fact-checking urban legends place, sometimes gets it wrong. Usually they're good, but as their job has gotten larger, mistakes have been creeping in with regularity.
565 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:36:01am |
re: #559 Areozol
That might be a site that Charles doesn't want linked here. I might be wrong, but so you know.
566 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:36:32am |
567 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:36:54am |
re: #562 iceweasel
I think I know one reason, and it stinks of political correctness and a desire to garner points for diversity.
568 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:37:15am |
re: #566 NJDhockeyfan
His base began to get restless..
570 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:39:41am |
Obama: Job creation not goal of Dec. 3 jobs forum
BEIJING — President Barack Obama says creating jobs isn't the goal of a coming White House forum on jobs and economic growth.
The president told NBC News on Wednesday that the purpose of the Dec. 3 summit is to figure out how to encourage hiring by businesses still reluctant to do so.
571 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:39:55am |
re: #566 NJDhockeyfan
What changed in six months?
neither He or Holder will say...this is what I've been yelling about for two days...I think they just decided to go all in to hammer Bush and Cheney...what do you bet they will be called to testify?...bet me
572 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:40:11am |
re: #560 albusteve
well the point is, none of that matters does it?...it's not about you it's about property rights and personal freedom...why do you never express yourself in those terms?
If only it was that simple, some regulation is necessary. As a property owner, I can't refuse to rent to blacks, gays, and unmarried couples for example, and correctly so.
573 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:40:34am |
re: #570 NJDhockeyfan
So he's fine-tuning the nuances of of carrot vs stick?
574 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:40:55am |
re: #567 tradewind
I think I know one reason, and it stinks of political correctness and a desire to garner points for diversity.
Affirmative Action in the workplace!
575 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:41:03am |
re: #567 tradewind
I think I know one reason, and it stinks of political correctness and a desire to garner points for diversity.
I think that was a factor when it came to people not making a stink over that presentation of his, or talking to him about his religious extremism, but I don't think PC can be wholly responsible for him getting a pass for essentially failing at every aspect of his job. the memo makes it seem as though he was utterly incompetent and even potentially harmful to the people he was supposed to be treating (although they didn't warn of physical harm). So how did he have a job at all? Because of a shortage? Looks like a lot of different factors were at work in this clusterfuck.
576 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:41:41am |
re: #570 NJDhockeyfan
"The president told NBC News on Wednesday that the purpose of the Dec. 3 summit is to figure out how to encourage hiring by businesses still reluctant to do so."
Whether its malice or cowardice, or some combination of the two, it's clear that the chief obstacle to the continued success of the Obama admin's handling of the economy is in the private sector's stubborn refusal to hire. Yep, that's the problem.
//
578 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:42:10am |
re: #575 iceweasel
I guess we won't know for a long time, if ever, but one thing is for sure... there are bound to be some people in the Army who have a very hard time sleeping at night right about now.
Hope they can find a good shrink.///
579 | Dreader1962 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:43:32am |
re: #562 iceweasel
They say he saw only a tenth of the patients other doctors would, and that he let a homicidal patient escape? How did any of this happen?
Because the Army (like many other government agencies) rarely fires someone for incompetence. Sexual harassment, equal opportunity violations, medical, overweight and discharge for misconduct (read - criminal offenses) are the most likely reasons for someone being kicked out. I know this because I was in the Judge Advocate General Corps and handled discharges.
The most likely trigger to get him booted was proselytizing while performing his counseling duties, but since he is a Muslim they most likely were very careful and tried to counsel him away from this behavior.
I read that PowerPoint presentation that he created - this was a horrible job; the typical presentation given by a Staff Sergeant is much better than this. Army leadership schools cover the presentation of briefings quite well. For my ANCOC course, I gave a detailed presentation of the history of Eritrea (I like obscure subjects).
580 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:43:54am |
re: #570 NJDhockeyfan
The president told NBC News on Wednesday that the purpose of the Dec. 3 summit is to figure out how to encourage hiring by businesses still reluctant to do so.
what a moron...he creates this pathetic business environment and now he can't understand the results...our POTUS at work...good grief, we are fucked
581 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:44:20am |
re: #482 Decatur Deb
Dehumanizing the enemy is the first step towards atrocity.
Didn't have too much issue with that when a certain lizard was calling other lizards fascists and demanding that they self-deport to North Korea.
582 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:44:40am |
re: #579 Dreader1962
Eritrea being one of the real hotbeds of radical Islamic terror nowdays. Bet that was interesting.
583 | lawhawk Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:44:58am |
re: #562 iceweasel
Well, one explanation that I'm sure may come out is that the Army needed all the mental health professionals it could to deal with the trauma issues, and that included those with subpar records.
Hasan was still in-service because of the dire need; the transfer to Fort Hood was done so as to get him out of Walter Reed and that others in Fort Hood could pick up his slack.
Still, if his record was so bad, and his work product and caseload were so poor, why give him the promotion at all. He didn't merit it based on what we've seen published so far. I think that speaks to the CO of his particular unit (and not well at that).
584 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:44:59am |
EXCLUSIVE: CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy
ABC News Finds the Location of a "Black Site" for Alleged Terrorists in Lithuania
The CIA built one of its secret European prisons inside an exclusive riding academy outside Vilnius, Lithuania, a current Lithuanian government official and a former U.S. intelligence official told ABC News this week.
Where affluent Lithuanians once rode show horses and sipped coffee at a café, the CIA installed a concrete structure where it could use harsh tactics to interrogate up to eight suspected al-Qaeda terrorists at a time.
585 | Dreader1962 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:45:36am |
re: #582 tradewind
Eritrea being one of the real hotbeds of radical Islamic terror nowdays. Bet that was interesting.
This was in the '90s. Eritrea as a country was very 'young' at the time.
586 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:46:29am |
re: #581 Fenway_Nation
Didn't have too much issue with that when a certain lizard was calling other lizards fascists and demanding that they self-deport to North Korea.
No kidding... up ding. Like I said up thread... last night a number of Lizards dropped their mask and showed us what they really think about a lot of us.
It's wasn't pretty. But now we know better.
587 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:46:52am |
re: #584 iceweasel
EXCLUSIVE: CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy
ABC News Finds the Location of a "Black Site" for Alleged Terrorists in Lithuania
just like Henry Ford's assembly line...how quaint
588 | Ojoe Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:47:17am |
Sarah Palin is hot on the current newsweek cover. Woo Hoo!
It will get her votes.
Next, she should drive for nscar.
It would be a better qualification than body surfing in Hawaii.
589 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:47:23am |
re: #581 Fenway_Nation
Didn't have too much issue with that when a certain lizard was calling other lizards fascists and demanding that they self-deport to North Korea.
Even fascists are human. The Acorn comparison recalled B&W movies from the '30s. Sorry about Godwin's Law.
590 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:48:27am |
re: #584 iceweasel
EXCLUSIVE: CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy
ABC News Finds the Location of a "Black Site" for Alleged Terrorists in Lithuania
Only eight :)
591 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:48:47am |
re: #583 lawhawk
Well, one explanation that I'm sure may come out is that the Army needed all the mental health professionals it could to deal with the trauma issues, and that included those with subpar records.
Hasan was still in-service because of the dire need; the transfer to Fort Hood was done so as to get him out of Walter Reed and that others in Fort Hood could pick up his slack.
Still, if his record was so bad, and his work product and caseload were so poor, why give him the promotion at all. He didn't merit it based on what we've seen published so far. I think that speaks to the CO of his particular unit (and not well at that).
I'm sure you're right. I bolded the above sentence because that's exactly what I'm thinking, especially after this memo. It's hard to believe how bad he was-- although what dreader1962 says sounds right to me: the army rarely fires for incompetance, and that can only be more true when they're so strapped for troops.
592 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:48:56am |
re: #562 iceweasel
I don't know about the dentist angle... I was speaking of M.D.s
Including D.D.s's into the mix might change the stats.
593 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:49:12am |
re: #588 Ojoe
Sarah Palin is hot on the current newsweek cover. Woo Hoo!
It will get her votes.Next, she should drive for nscar.
It would be a better qualification than body surfing in Hawaii.
Are you really being serious?
594 | Ojoe Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:49:24am |
And now, a salute to the 2 major political parties in the USA:
Pffiibbittth.™
596 | Daniel Ballard Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:49:59am |
re: #593 Walter L. Newton
Who else is going to get the pro MILF vote?
597 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:50:37am |
re: #588 Ojoe
The Newsweek photog stole the picture and used it without authorization from Runner's World... where it was appropriate.
So typical.
598 | Ojoe Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:50:56am |
re: #593 Walter L. Newton
You never know what you will read on LGF.
599 | tradewind Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:51:15am |
re: #596 Rightwingconspirator
You'd have to make that GMILF, technically.///
601 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:51:34am |
603 | Ojoe Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:53:49am |
re: #601 Walter L. Newton
What the hell at this point yes.
"Pffiibbittth.™"
One of the only benefits from a president anymore is that we get to se an image over and over and over.
So, for looks, yes.
604 | Areozol Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:54:46am |
Here is nice rebuttal of "Joseph Moshe":
[Link: re0search.wordpress.com...]
Its funny; wackos as usual are analyzing grainy and blurry photographs, and concluding "this is the same person!!".
How lame.
606 | Stanghazi Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:54:55am |
re: #597 tradewind
The Newsweek photog stole the picture and used it without authorization from Runner's World... where it was appropriate.
So typical.
That is supposition. It has not been proven. From what I read Runners World had the contract, not the photog. But Runners World referred all the media requesting the photo directly to the photog, without mentioning the contract, their concern was making sure they would be named as the source, which they were on the cover of Newsweek.
607 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:55:48am |
re: #597 tradewind
The Newsweek photog stole the picture and used it without authorization from Runner's World... where it was appropriate.
So typical.
Link about the copyright theft please ?
609 | Ojoe Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:58:14am |
re: #570 NJDhockeyfan
Hey OBH
I despise your mealy mouthed politics.
10+ % unemployment & not getting any better.
*spit*
610 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:58:30am |
612 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:59:24am |
Ojoe is doing Bloodies this morning...hold the celery
613 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 8:59:54am |
re: #607 avanti
Link about the copyright theft please ?
614 | Stanghazi Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:00:09am |
From the Daily Finance:
"But while Newsweek's use of the photo violated the embargo, it's not clear to what extent Adams is at fault. A source with knowledge of the situation says multiple outlets, including Time, approached Runner's World after the photos first appeared on its website in July to inquire about obtaining the reuse rights. Those who inquired were forwarded to Adams. Editors at the magazine were aware of negotiations to resell the pictures, and were primarily concerned to see that Runner's World received prominent credit, says the source. In the event, Newsweek credited Runner's World right on its cover. Another source says there is some disagreement over whether the exclusivity clause in Adams's contract is meant to cover all magazines or only titles that compete with Runner's World. Meanwhile, a post on Adams's blog seems to suggest he didn't know about the resale to Newsweek until after Price concluded it. "
615 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:00:39am |
re: #609 Ojoe
Hey OBH
I despise your mealy mouthed politics.
10+ % unemployment & not getting any better.
*spit*
and he doesn't seem to understand why...the President of Duh
616 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:00:58am |
re: #581 Fenway_Nation
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
620 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:02:07am |
621 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:03:16am |
re: #616 Decatur Deb
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Lud went so far off the rails he must be near Botswana by now
622 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:03:20am |
623 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:03:36am |
re: #613 Athens Runaway
Than the legal issue is not with Newsweek, but between the photographer and Runners World.
624 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:04:40am |
re: #623 avanti
Than the legal issue is not with Newsweek, but between the photographer and Runners World.
down ding...PDS
625 | SixDegrees Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:04:41am |
re: #583 lawhawk
Well, one explanation that I'm sure may come out is that the Army needed all the mental health professionals it could to deal with the trauma issues, and that included those with subpar records.
Hasan was still in-service because of the dire need; the transfer to Fort Hood was done so as to get him out of Walter Reed and that others in Fort Hood could pick up his slack.
Still, if his record was so bad, and his work product and caseload were so poor, why give him the promotion at all. He didn't merit it based on what we've seen published so far. I think that speaks to the CO of his particular unit (and not well at that).
A glimpse of what government run healthcare is like - with actions and outcomes determined, not by medical decisions or facts, but by politics.
626 | Athens Runaway Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:04:52am |
re: #623 avanti
Than the legal issue is not with Newsweek, but between the photographer and Runners World.
Unethically sold photos are still unethically sold photos. Do the ends justify the means?
627 | Ojoe Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:05:07am |
re: #622 Decatur Deb
Very corrected.
OT: When you distill grappa you have to be careful not to get any wood alcohol in it.
Well time to get to work.
BBL
628 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:05:25am |
re: #623 avanti
Than the legal issue is not with Newsweek, but between the photographer and Runners World.
The important thing, though, is that a wholly inappropriate photograph, selected to highlight the woman's lack of depth and qualification for any office, appeared on the magazine cover.
629 | Ben Hur Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:05:28am |
Obama in China: A wake-up call!
Barack Obama has recently been reading up on the presidency of John F. Kennedy. Coming home from China, he might well focus on Kennedy’s first summit overseas with the leader of the Soviet Union, Nikita Khrushchev. Indeed, we all could learn from that episode.
Like Obama, Kennedy came into office as an inspiring figure, an idealist who stirred hopes for the future and yet was inexperienced in the exercise of power. At the time, the Soviet Union was a rising nation that was threatening the global leadership of the United States.
In the fall of his first year in office, Kennedy went to Europe where he was welcomed grandly until he arrived in Vienna to sit down with Khrushchev. Kennedy, the idealist, thought that his charm and his appeals to reason would win over the Soviet leader. Instead, Khrushchev bullied him unmercifully and the men were unable to agree on anything of substance. Polite reasoning went nowhere.
According to Kennedy biographer Richard Reeves, Khruschev left the meeting telling associates, “He’s very young… not strong enough. Too intelligent and too weak.” Khrushchev concluded that he could push Kennedy around and started causing mischief from Berlin to Cuba.
Kennedy was shaken but, fortunately, he didn’t go into denial. He went into action, treating the meeting as a wake-up call. In the months that followed, he became a much tougher, more assertive president, and a year later when a showdown came over Khrushchev sneaking missiles into Cuba, Kennedy was an outstanding leader – and he turned the tables on Khrushchev.
Why bring up that story now, as President Obama comes home from Asia? Because it has considerable relevance to his meetings in China with President Hu.
Obama went into those sessions like Kennedy: with great hope that his charm and appeal to reason – qualities so admired in the United States – would work well with Hu. By numerous accounts, that is not at all what happened: reports from correspondents on the scene are replete with statements that Hu stiffed the President, that he rejected arguments about Chinese human rights and currency behavior while scolding the U.S. for its trade policies, and that he stage-managed the visit so that Obama – unlike Clinton and Bush before him – was unable to reach a large Chinese audience through television.
To be fair, President Obama seemed to handle the situation better than Kennedy did: he wasn’t humiliated, he did secure some generalized agreements, and – so the White House believes – he laid the groundwork for a productive, long-term relationship. We shall see.
Gergen.
630 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:05:32am |
re: #621 albusteve
Lud went so far off the rails he must be near Botswana by now
A couple boob pun threads and we'll be back to normal.
632 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:06:49am |
633 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:07:00am |
re: #626 Athens Runaway
Unethically sold photos are still unethically sold photos. Do the ends justify the means?
down ding
Palin
634 | FrogMarch Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:07:19am |
The widely read blogger and purveyor of all truth, Andrew Sullivan, was impelled to blog 17 times on the subject of Palin on the same day Americans learned that the Obama administration awarded $6.7 billion in stimulus money to non-existent congressional districts — which did not merit a single mention. To see what is in front of one's nose demands a constant struggle, I guess.
635 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:07:47am |
re: #623 avanti
Than the legal issue is not with Newsweek, but between the photographer and Runners World.
No... it's between Newsweek and the photographer...
"On the cover of this week’s issue of Newsweek is a photo that was shot for the August 2009 issue of Runner’s World, in which Sarah Palin was featured on the monthly “I’m a Runner” back page. Runner’s World did not provide Newsweek with the image. Instead, it was provided to Newsweek by the photographer’s agent, without Runner’s World’s knowledge or permission."
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]
636 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:08:03am |
re: #624 albusteve
down ding...PDS
Explain why a correction of a factual error is PDS ? A Lizard stated that Newsweek stole a photo when in fact they bought it from the photographer.
638 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:08:25am |
re: #628 Guanxi88
The important thing, though, is that a wholly inappropriate photograph, selected to highlight the woman's lack of depth and qualification for any office, appeared on the magazine cover.
Is that really true? She's going to get Ojoe's vote.
639 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:08:55am |
re: #637 iceweasel
If you have to link that cesspool, i think google cache is the preferred method here, just FYI.
feel free to delete that post
640 | Guanxi88 Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:09:33am |
re: #638 Walter L. Newton
Is that really true? She's going to get Ojoe's vote.
He's enjoying enhanced coffee just now, and so I don't hold it against him. Besides, she'll never join the Whigs.
641 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:09:41am |
re: #638 Walter L. Newton
Is that really true? She's going to get Ojoe's vote.
If she runs as a New Whig (tm).
642 | albusteve Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:10:33am |
re: #636 avanti
Explain why a correction of a factual error is PDS ? A Lizard stated that Newsweek stole a photo when in fact they bought it from the photographer.
it's all PDS...and you're infected
gotta go perform a couple of quick surgeries...cya
643 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:10:52am |
re: #630 Decatur Deb
Um...no. LVQ said alot of things that were beyond the pale and cannot be unsaid. Same goes for the 'lizards' who were updinging him and cheering him on the more unhinged he got.
644 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:12:49am |
re: #635 Walter L. Newton
No... it's between Newsweek and the photographer...
"On the cover of this week’s issue of Newsweek is a photo that was shot for the August 2009 issue of Runner’s World, in which Sarah Palin was featured on the monthly “I’m a Runner” back page. Runner’s World did not provide Newsweek with the image. Instead, it was provided to Newsweek by the photographer’s agent, without Runner’s World’s knowledge or permission."
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]
Your own post shows that the agent is responsible, not Newsweek, they bought and paid for it from the photographer, and if the photographer needed permission in his contract with Runner's World, the legal exposure is his.
645 | Spare O'Lake Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:14:56am |
re: #621 albusteve
Lud went so far off the rails he must be near Botswana by now
He fired all of his guns at once and blasted off into space.
646 | BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:15:03am |
re: #643 Fenway_Nation
Um...no. LVQ said alot of things that were beyond the pale and cannot be unsaid. Same goes for the 'lizards' who were updinging him and cheering him on the more unhinged he got.
Bollocks. You can't decide to hold everyone who holds those political views responsible for the namecalling. Well, you can, but it's idiotic.
647 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:15:20am |
re: #635 Walter L. Newton
No... it's between Newsweek and the photographer...
"On the cover of this week’s issue of Newsweek is a photo that was shot for the August 2009 issue of Runner’s World, in which Sarah Palin was featured on the monthly “I’m a Runner” back page. Runner’s World did not provide Newsweek with the image. Instead, it was provided to Newsweek by the photographer’s agent, without Runner’s World’s knowledge or permission."
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]
From the link you provided, emphasis mine:
Here’s the thing: Does Newsweek need the permission of Runner’s World here? I’ve reached out to them and asked, but I’m guessing they didn’t buy this photo in a back alley out of someone’s trenchcoat. Probably there were resale rights and Newsweek legitimately transacted for cover use that way. They do this every week, so that is my guess.
[Next-Day Update: As it happens, Newsweek didn't need the permission of Runner's World...but the photographer did. Jeff Bercovici at Daily Finance confirmed from Runner's World that they had a year-long exclusivity clause in their contract with the photographer, that was violated in selling the photo to Newsweek. Full story here; the post as written yesterday continues below, though the "why" in my next question is pretty well answered.]
648 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:17:18am |
re: #643 Fenway_Nation
Um...no. LVQ said alot of things that were beyond the pale and cannot be unsaid. Same goes for the 'lizards' who were updinging him and cheering him on the more unhinged he got.
"The moving hand writes, and having writ, moves on.
Not all your piety nor wit can call it back, nor erase a word of it."
--OK
650 | avanti Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:20:59am |
re: #643 Fenway_Nation
Um...no. LVQ said alot of things that were beyond the pale and cannot be unsaid. Same goes for the 'lizards' who were updinging him and cheering him on the more unhinged he got.
That's the problem with snarks. If you agree with all the sentiments expressed in a post, but it's snarky, do you upding for the sentiments, or down ding for the snark ?
I've seen long posts that hit home to me from both sides followed by a Nazi or Commie snark or a hardy fuck you for example.
651 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:22:23am |
re: #646 iceweasel
You have to be fucking kidding me. Go and read through it- anyone who disagreed with his comments was the heir apparent to the Khmer Rouge, SS or Kim Il Jung...either that or we all were braindead jingoists who weren't worthy of living under the same sky that he, the last true patriot, does.
652 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:24:25am |
re: #650 avanti
That's the problem with snarks. If you agree with all the sentiments expressed in a post, but it's snarky, do you upding for the sentiments, or down ding for the snark ?
I've seen long posts that hit home to me from both sides followed by a Nazi or Commie snark or a hardy fuck you for example.
I thought my drive-by comments are a defect brought on by lack of blogging skills. Maybe not.
654 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:27:34am |
re: #650 avanti
It wasn't snark, it wasn't tongue-in-cheek and it wasn't a couple of one off comments here and there. LVQ kept it up all night and then had the unmitigated chutzpah to try and bake himself some martyr cookies later on.
Basically, he was at it long enough for me to slip out, grab a pizza and a beer, get another job and come back in here and watch him unravel some more.
656 | Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:32:52am |
re: #655 Decatur Deb
TY...looks like I'm gonna start working at a shorthanded pizza place next week.
/that literally was what happened last night while the shit hit the fan on the poll thread.
657 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:34:39am |
re: #656 Fenway_Nation
So the night wasn't a complete downer.
658 | Jeff In Ohio Thu, Nov 19, 2009 9:35:01am |
re: #656 Fenway_Nation
TY...looks like I'm gonna start working at a shorthanded pizza place next week.
/that literally was what happened last night while the shit hit the fan on the poll thread.
Learn all you can then come to Cincinnati, we need some good pizza.