Hamas: Obama Doesn’t Write, He Doesn’t Call

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Apparently, Hamas is having trouble getting Barack Obama to return their calls.

Gaza City - Ismail Haniya, the head of the Islamist Hamas government in the Gaza Strip, has written twice to US President Barack Obama but has not received a reply, a Hamas spokesperson said on Sunday.

Taher al-Nunu said Haniya had asked Obama to intervene against an Israeli-Egyptian blockade of the enclave and recognise Hamas rule as legitimate in light of its victory in the 2006 Palestinian general election.

“Prime Minister Haniya asked Obama to end the siege around the Gaza Strip and on the Hamas government and to respect the result of the Palestinian elections,” Nunu told AFP.

“He has received no answer from the president or his office.”

(Hat tip: Alouette.)

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98 comments
1 Guanxi88  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:23:46pm

After all the hard work put in by Gazans for the guy, you’d think he’d at least acknowledge them.

Huh! Actually makes me like him a bit more.

2 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:24:19pm

So how long before Rush and Beck accuse him of ignoring the situation in the Middle East?

Meanwhile, I will laugh at the memory of the Hamas phone bank that helped the Obama campaign.

3 DaddyG  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:24:54pm

President Obama is busy in the Gulf of Mexico bailing oil with a paper cup along with Sean Penn. Please leave a message at the tone and we will return your call as soon as possible. /

4 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:24:58pm

I thought this was going to be an Onion story when I first read the title.

5 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:25:02pm

/I’m sure Obama is secretly sending them answers by creating so many crescent shaped logos….

6 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:25:10pm

BTW, Nice done Obama. My hats off to you on this one.

7 Linden Arden  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:26:07pm

He is just not that into you, Hamas.

8 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:27:14pm

Thank you for the h/t Charles!

9 SpaceJesus  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:35:12pm

...

10 cliffster  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:36:09pm

I guess Obama has been reading The Rules

11 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:36:14pm

re: #9 SpaceJesus

…

???

12 rwdflynavy  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:36:43pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

???

—-

13 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:37:02pm

re: #10 cliffster

I guess Obama has been reading The Rules

If you dont have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all?

14 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:37:14pm

re: #12 rwdflynavy

—-

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15 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:38:03pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

%P%%P%%P%

:-)

16 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:38:50pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

:-)

Some one appreciates me laying some %P%.

Ah, computer humor.

17 rwdflynavy  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:38:57pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

:-)

;{)

18 Randall Gross  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:39:11pm

Why would a sekret muslin ignore HAMAS — it has to be a plot!?!

//

19 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:39:38pm

re: #18 Thanos

Why would a sekret muslin ignore HAMAS — it has to be a plot!?!

//

A cunning plan Baldrick?

20 DaddyG  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:39:50pm

Time for a primer please…

Is the current Hamas leadership the officially elected government of the Gaza territories?

Why or why not.

Who should be recognized as the official government?

What is the current geo-political make up of the area (other than the more general Israeli / Islamic conflict?

Help this poor ignorant lizard!!

Thanks in advance…

21 soap_man  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:40:02pm

Phht. He’s probably talking to them through some sekrit Mooslim direct-line. A red one. Like the Batphone.

///(Need I?)

22 [deleted]  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:40:35pm
23 DaddyG  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:40:51pm

re: #21 soap_man

Phht. He’s probably talking to them through some sekrit Mooslim direct-line. A red one. Like the Batphone.

///(Need I?)


Gazan messenger rooster.

24 tradewind  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:41:10pm

Well, now they know how the Prime Minister of our closest ally in the ME feels./

25 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:41:17pm

Obama has trouble understand some issues relating to Israel but he does understand that Hamas is a murderous bunch of thugs. He’s not going to say anything to them except “Talk to the hand.”

26 tradewind  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:43:39pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon
Let’s just hope he doesn’t think they should be included as he seeks to understand and bring together all points of view.//

27 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:43:54pm

re: #20 DaddyG

Time for a primer please…

Is the current Hamas leadership the officially elected government of the Gaza territories?

Why or why not.

Who should be recognized as the official government?

What is the current geo-political make up of the area (other than the more general Israeli / Islamic conflict?

Help this poor ignorant lizard!!

Thanks in advance…

The Gazans held an election where Hamas won the majority of seats, thanks to the manner in which in which the elections were held.

Hamas is a terrorist organization.

Since Hamas is a terrorist organization and they are the elected government, the Gazans effectively shot themselves in the foot by electing people we had said we would not work with.

Somehow, they never expected on having to deal with the consequences.

Sucks to be them.

28 Randall Gross  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:43:58pm

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A cunning plan Baldrick?

It could be that he doesn’t cotton to their linenist plots.

29 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:45:01pm

re: #20 DaddyG

Time for a primer please…

Is the current Hamas leadership the officially elected government of the Gaza territories?

Why or why not.

Who should be recognized as the official government?

What is the current geo-political make up of the area (other than the more general Israeli / Islamic conflict?

Help this poor ignorant lizard!!

Thanks in advance…

Hamas won elections in Gaza, and they control the area (such as it is).

The Fatah-controlled govt. in the West Bank is considered the ‘legitimate’, or at least ‘approachable’ Palestinian government for all intents and purposes.

Hamas is trending steadily more so-con Islamist.

30 tradewind  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:46:16pm

re: #27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hamas is a terrorist organization.


Yeah, but what about those hospital fund drives and the summer camps for underprivileged kids.//

31 DaddyG  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:46:22pm

re: #27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Thanks for the summary.

32 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:46:42pm

So… this is important?

33 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:46:46pm

And of course, as far as Isreal goes, when they ask for a peace deal:

Hamas: WE KILL YOU!
PA: We’ll have to get back to you on that.

34 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:47:18pm

re: #20 DaddyG

Time for a primer please…

Is the current Hamas leadership the officially elected government of the Gaza territories?

Why or why not.

Who should be recognized as the official government?

What is the current geo-political make up of the area (other than the more general Israeli / Islamic conflict?

Help this poor ignorant lizard!!

Thanks in advance…

Hamas is the official government of Gaza because 1) they won the election 2) they threw the opposition off high buildings 3) “they provide valuable social services” according to one lizard

Geo-political makeup of the area:

Gaza: ruled by a bunch of murdering terrorist thugs (“who provide valuable social services!”)
Egypt: ruled by a dictator
Lebanon: ruled by Hezbollah
Syria: ruled by a dictator
Jordan: ruled by a prissy little monarch
Saudi Arabia: ruled by a gang of former caravan robbers
UAE: ruled by a bunch of prissy little libertines
Palestine: ruled by a bunch of murdering terrorist thugs who are more “moderate” than Hamas
Iraq: occupied by the USA
Iran: ruled by a fascist maniac
Libya: ruled by a fashionista

35 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:47:40pm

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

So… this is important?

Lots of people in 2008 expected Obama to fall down trying to work with Hamas.

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:47:50pm

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

So… this is important?

Well, given that Obama was thought to be the Hamas candidate by a number of people who got overly excited during the election, it’s certainly a let-down.

37 tradewind  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:48:36pm

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Maybe it’s just a PR problem. I hear Mo’ Seef, aka Baghdad Bob, is looking for work since leaving the Iraqi Information Ministry…

38 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:51:45pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BTW, Nice done Obama. My hats off to you on this one.

Nice done? What was nicely done? By not answering? In that case.

“Obama Supports Scientology”

“… it’s become apparent that the Obama administration is in full support of the theological philosophy presented by the Church of Scientology since he has not made one statement against them in either his campaign or since he was elected the President of the United States. David MiscavIge, head of the Sea Org (the leadership division of Scientology) has thanked President Obama for his support.”

39 HoosierHoops  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:52:18pm

Just call me -Donna Fargo

It’s almost twelve o’clock but what’s one more night
Among so many nights I sit here all alone
Though I must admit by now I’m used to it
And I’m not surprised that you’re not home
Since you’ve grown tired of me I guess eventually
I’ll get tired too of waiting some night
But until I do would it be too much to ask of you
To just call me and tell me you’re all right
It would only take a dime and the time it takes to call
And all I wanna know is that you’re all right that’s all that’s all
I know that it’s too late we’re gonna separate
I’d be a fool to think we could go on…

40 Obdicut  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:54:36pm

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

Can you cite where you’re quoting that from?

42 davesax  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:56:02pm

Things just got gloomier for the Palestinian National movement.

Israel’s acceptance to the OECD is a significant development. It shows that despite Goldstone, the endless one-sided UN Security Council Resolutions, European intellectuals’ tireless advocating for the Palestinians, and the Boycott Movement, Israeli ingenuity is integral to global economic development and cannot be ignored, even by its most “enlightened” critics.

E. Barak is now saying that Israel must initiate its own peace proposal, and this will probably happen, now matter the Palestinians’ dreams of “return” to Israel proper.

As far as Obama and Israel, I think the verdict is still out. But one thing is for sure: this is a president that has bet much of his legacy on Jewish brains, no matter his own views on the Middle East. It’s a confusing but fascinating thing to watch.

43 MandyManners  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:56:37pm

Did BHO’s church reprint Hamas’ manifesto?

44 Obdicut  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:57:21pm

re: #43 MandyManners

Mandy, do you really feel that’s relevant to the current story?

Or are you trying to make the case that Obama has improved enormously in his handling of Hamas?

45 [deleted]  Tue, May 11, 2010 1:58:33pm
46 Gus  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:00:26pm

re: #43 MandyManners

Did BHO’s church reprint Hamas’ manifesto?

World Net Daily is the source?

47 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:00:44pm

re: #43 MandyManners

Did BHO’s church reprint Hamas’ manifesto?

I’d have to say its irrelevant. Whatever Jeremiah Wright may think, Barack Obama has done his job has president and not given those thugs the time of day.

48 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:04:42pm

re: #40 Obdicut

Can you cite where you’re quoting that from?

He can’t. He made it up to make a point I guess.

49 sngnsgt  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:04:53pm

Have your people call my people and we’ll do lunch…

50 Randall Gross  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:04:59pm

re: #46 Gus 802

There’s a scan of the actual bulletin, more than the Whirled nuts drooly crowd ran with that. This is a case where a fact is a fact.

51 Sacred Plants  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:09:38pm

If he pointed him to Netanyahu, would that count as a reply?

52 Gus  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:09:45pm

re: #50 Thanos

There’s a scan of the actual bulletin, more than the Whirled nuts drooly crowd ran with that. This is a case where a fact is a fact.

OK It was the wrong thing to do of course. Trying to figure out how this is relevant now. I’m pretty sure I know how Hamas came into power anyway and the events that followed the election.

53 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:13:19pm

If one of my former pastors writes an article supporting the blockade of a woman’s clinic, what does that tell you about me?

54 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:16:47pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

If one of my former pastors writes an article supporting the blockade of a woman’s clinic, what does that tell you about me?

Absolutely nothing.

55 Obdicut  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:16:56pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Not a damn thing.

56 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:20:43pm

re: #40 Obdicut

Can you cite where you’re quoting that from?

Can you tell me where your sense of humor and sarcasm went to today?

57 avanti  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:21:56pm

re: #44 Obdicut

Mandy, do you really feel that’s relevant to the current story?

Or are you trying to make the case that Obama has improved enormously in his handling of Hamas?

It was back in 2008 when the link was put up. Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, repeat…

58 Gus  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:22:56pm

re: #50 Thanos

There’s a scan of the actual bulletin, more than the Whirled nuts drooly crowd ran with that. This is a case where a fact is a fact.

OK, I looked for some basic information. It was originally printed in the Los Angeles Times as Hamas’ stand (first link) and later reprinted by Trinity United Church of Christ Bulletin July 22 2007 under a different name (page 10).

59 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:23:02pm

re: #44 Obdicut

Mandy, do you really feel that’s relevant to the current story?

Or are you trying to make the case that Obama has improved enormously in his handling of Hamas?

It is irrelevant to the issue of whether Obama now harbours support for Hamas and hates Israel.
It is highly relevant to the issue of whether some of Obama’s political supporters harbour support for Hamas and a hatred of Israel.

61 Obdicut  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:26:03pm

re: #56 Walter L. Newton

Can you tell me where your sense of humor and sarcasm went to today?

I think it went to Arizona to buy some turquoise and is detained on suspicious of being a non-existent alien.

I don’t think your ‘joke’ actually works on any level. What did the focus groups think?

62 Obdicut  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:27:14pm

re: #59 Spare O’Lake

It is irrelevant to the issue of whether Obama now harbours support for Hamas and hates Israel.
It is highly relevant to the issue of whether some of Obama’s political supporters harbour support for Hamas and a hatred of Israel.

So it’s not really relevant at all to this story, then, except to the extent that Obama is clearly not listening to any advisors that support Hamas?

63 avanti  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:28:48pm

re: #62 Obdicut

So it’s not really relevant at all to this story, then, except to the extent that Obama is clearly not listening to any advisors that support Hamas?

He is, but since he’s a secret Muslim, he keeps it on the low down./

64 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:29:18pm

re: #58 Gus 802

OK, I looked for some basic information. It was originally printed in the Los Angeles Times as Hamas’ stand (first link) and later reprinted by Trinity United Church of Christ Bulletin July 22 2007 under a different name (page 10).

In that case, its not a unique matter. And like I said, it’s irrelevant, so let’s head upstairs.

65 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:29:20pm

re: #59 Spare O’Lake

It is irrelevant to the issue of whether Obama now harbours support for Hamas and hates Israel.
It is highly relevant to the issue of whether some of Obama’s political supporters harbour support for Hamas and a hatred of Israel.

I suppose it might be, but we knew that, and for reasons more compelling than a church bulletin reprinting an LA Times piece.

However, those elements are supporting him in spite of, rather than because of.

66 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:30:23pm

re: #62 Obdicut

So it’s not really relevant at all to this story, then, except to the extent that Obama is clearly not listening to any advisors that support Hamas?

Who does he have around him who might fit that category, anyway?

67 Obdicut  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:31:58pm

re: #66 SanFranciscoZionist

Who does he have around him who might fit that category, anyway?

Mysterious, cloaked figures.

68 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:32:01pm

re: #62 Obdicut

So it’s not really relevant at all to this story, then, except to the extent that Obama is clearly not listening to any advisors that support Hamas?

Would you mind explaining your use of the term “advisors” with reference to Obama’s former pastor? I trust you are not suggesting that the good Reverend is currently an Obama advisor, are you?

69 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:33:20pm

re: #61 Obdicut

I think it went to Arizona to buy some turquoise and is detained on suspicious of being a non-existent alien.

I don’t think your ‘joke’ actually works on any level. What did the focus groups think?

Funny you should mention that. I’m currently back and forth from the computer to the flat lap machine, shaping and polishing 2 pieces of turquoise, a nice piece of orbicular jasper and something I have a big slab of (but not identified, looks a bit like turquoise, but it’s not), slice of a long pendant size piece and working on that.

I wasn’t detained at the border for any of this stuff. :)

70 Gus  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:33:33pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

In that case, its not a unique matter. And like I said, it’s irrelevant, so let’s head upstairs.

That’s the key right there. That it wasn’t a unique publication — it was first printed in the LA Times. What then would we make of regular readers of the LA Times?

71 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:33:52pm

re: #65 SanFranciscoZionist

I suppose it might be, but we knew that, and for reasons more compelling than a church bulletin reprinting an LA Times piece.

However, those elements are supporting him in spite of, rather than because of.

No need to defend President Obama…no one here has accused him of supporting Hamas.

72 Obdicut  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:34:12pm

re: #68 Spare O’Lake

Would you mind explaining your use of the term “advisors” with reference to Obama’s former pastor? I trust you are not suggesting that the good Reverend is currently an Obama advisor, are you?

I’m not referring to Reverend Wright at all. If you read what I wrote, it doesn’t actually refer to anyone in particular. Reverend Wright is pretty damn irrelevant at this point.

I’m saying that obviously, Obama isn’t listening to any advisors (without any comment on whether they even exist) about supporting Hamas, given his, well, lack of support for Hamas.

73 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:41:08pm

re: #72 Obdicut

I’m not referring to Reverend Wright at all. If you read what I wrote, it doesn’t actually refer to anyone in particular. Reverend Wright is pretty damn irrelevant at this point.

I’m saying that obviously, Obama isn’t listening to any advisors (without any comment on whether they even exist) about supporting Hamas, given his, well, lack of support for Hamas.

Oh pardon me, I should have realized that you meant to say that President Obama was not following the non-advice of his non-existent non-advisors.

74 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:42:53pm

Dog break—-BBL

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:50:46pm

re: #68 Spare O’Lake

Would you mind explaining your use of the term “advisors” with reference to Obama’s former pastor? I trust you are not suggesting that the good Reverend is currently an Obama advisor, are you?

No one has done that, but it’s apparently being implied that Hamas boosters are all around him.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:51:10pm

re: #71 Spare O’Lake

No need to defend President Obama…no one here has accused him of supporting Hamas.

Oh no?

77 Gus  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:51:56pm

I see the knuckleheads over at “that other site” are trying to promote the urban legend that Obama signed an executive order ($20 million) to “allow hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to resettle in the United States.” Well that was debunked at Snopes.

President Bush signed a similar order in 2007: Presidential Determination No. 2007-19 of May 10, 2007 - Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related to Somalia, Sudan, Chad, Other Parts of Africa, and the West Bank and Gaza

78 Gus  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:53:47pm

re: #77 Gus 802

But that’s different!

/

79 Cato the Elder  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:55:09pm

Mandy really, really needs to get a new shtick.

Like stock tips or something.

80 Kragar  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:56:47pm

re: #79 Cato the Elder

Mandy really, really needs to get a new shtick.

Like stock tips or something.

no weather reports, please.

81 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 11, 2010 2:59:22pm

Pasadena Rabbi: Jewish-Americans have to support Obama because he’s, well, the Messiah

However, since all parties to the conflict agree that there is no military solution, President Obama, a statesman capable of understanding nuance and complexity, is precisely the kind of leader we need now. He has surrounded himself with Middle East experts, including many Jews, and is listening to the American-Jewish community, the majority of whom support a two-state solution.

Gah.

82 Cato the Elder  Tue, May 11, 2010 3:00:41pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

No one has done that, but it’s apparently being implied that Hamas boosters are all around him.

You mean Jimmy Carter has been frequenting the White House?

83 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 11, 2010 3:03:13pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh no?

No!

84 Cato the Elder  Tue, May 11, 2010 3:04:30pm

re: #83 Spare O’Lake

No!

Hard to say. One of Mandy’s comments was deleted.

85 tradewind  Tue, May 11, 2010 3:04:41pm

re: #68 Spare O’Lake
Reverend Wright would answer that… actually, he has…. with a wink and a statement:
’ Obama has to do what Obama has to do, but we understand each other.’/

86 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, May 11, 2010 3:14:35pm

Dammit, just like all the others players, they woo you, “eff” you, and then won’t ever give you the time of day afterwards. He better hope Hamas didn’t get pregnant, otherwise the world court might tell him that he has to pay child support.

/hey I figure I gave it about as serious of a reply as it deserves…

87 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 11, 2010 3:22:37pm

re: #86 ausador

Dammit, just like all the others players, they woo you, “eff” you, and then won’t ever give you the time of day afterwards. He better hope Hamas didn’t get pregnant, otherwise the world court might tell him that he has to pay child support.

/hey I figure I gave it about as serious of a reply as it deserves…

Wait a minute…!

88 jordash1212  Tue, May 11, 2010 4:55:56pm

Sorry Mr. Haniya, but Pres. Jimmy Carter is out of office.

89 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 11, 2010 5:09:19pm

re: #20 DaddyG

Time for a primer please…

Is the current Hamas leadership the officially elected government of the Gaza territories?

Why or why not.

Who should be recognized as the official government?

What is the current geo-political make up of the area (other than the more general Israeli / Islamic conflict?

Help this poor ignorant lizard!!

Thanks in advance…

Daddy G. -

1. “HAMAS” IS the elected Government of the Gaza Strip ca. 2006.

2. Former Egyptian Territory, as of the 1949 Armistice lines, Taken by Israel in the 1967 War. More or less, 100% Arab, 80+% Muslim. AND, the Egyptians do NOT want them back. The Egyptians consider them “troublesome.” The Israelis EVACUATED Gaza in 2005, unilaterally per the instructions of then PM ARIEL SHARON. Some Israelis who were evicted have YET to be fully resettled in Israel Proper.

3. Bill Gates and others (Mainly US Liberal Jews) bought what were ongoing
Commercial Greenhouses producing fruit and vegetables, turning them over to “Palestinian” Ownership, FOR FREE! - LIKE IN NO MONEY! Same Greenhouses were stripped for their glass and piping - just like out of an episode of THE SOPRANOS based in Newark, NJ. YO, HAMAS! - Bill Gates is NOBODY TO SCREW WITH! Bet HAMAS wonders why M/S is in Israel. NOT “Palestine.”

4. Hope that answers your questions.

That is ALL and MORE than ENOUGH! -S-

90 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 11, 2010 5:40:51pm

re: #89 Dr. Shalit

Revise and Extend -

I am now SORRY I did Not go further. It goes like this - Until the Gazans LOVE their Women and Children MORE than they HATE ‘Da Jooos’, there will NOT BE PEACE until and unless:

1. Israel re-takes Gaza and goes “Totally Roman.” - Highly Unlikely.

2. Egypt re-takes Gaza and …. - Highly Unlikely, The Egyptians DO NOT want them back, Israel HAS offered this to Egypt in several formats. It serves Egypt better commercially to be able to RIP-OFF the Gazans, of course in a “Brotherly Way,” and from a Military Standpoint, to tie up Israeli Forces. - Egypt will NOT move, except to keep Gazans OUT of EGYPT!

3. The Gazans end their Anal-Cephalic Politics and realize that they occupy a Potential “Club Med” Arab/Left “Arafatland Theme Park” that well heeled Europeans would PAY to visit, so long as it were complete with Casinos, et. al. AND MAKE MONEY - Not Yet, but one Always Hopes.

Thank You for your Patience. -S-

91 Unakite  Tue, May 11, 2010 5:58:02pm

re: #90 Dr. Shalit

Revise and Extend -

I am now SORRY I did Not go further. It goes like this - Until the Gazans LOVE their Women and Children MORE than they HATE ‘Da Jooos’, there will NOT BE PEACE until and unless:

1. Israel re-takes Gaza and goes “Totally Roman.” - Highly Unlikely.

2. Egypt re-takes Gaza and … - Highly Unlikely, The Egyptians DO NOT want them back, Israel HAS offered this to Egypt in several formats. It serves Egypt better commercially to be able to RIP-OFF the Gazans, of course in a “Brotherly Way,” and from a Military Standpoint, to tie up Israeli Forces. - Egypt will NOT move, except to keep Gazans OUT of EGYPT!

3. The Gazans end their Anal-Cephalic Politics and realize that they occupy a Potential “Club Med” Arab/Left “Arafatland Theme Park” that well heeled Europeans would PAY to visit, so long as it were complete with Casinos, et. al. AND MAKE MONEY - Not Yet, but one Always Hopes.

Thank You for your Patience. -S-

Golda Meir.

92 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 11, 2010 6:18:20pm

re: #91 Unakite

Unakite -

Was Golda Wrong? Pray Tell.

-S-

93 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 11, 2010 6:26:17pm

re: #92 Dr. Shalit

Revise and Extend, A-GAIN,

PM Meir had to be politically correct, SHE lived “in the neighborhood” and ONLY spoke about CHILDREN. I live in the US and am FAR LESS “PC” - I Include THE WOMEN as well - as should have SHE. -S-

94 Sacred Plants  Tue, May 11, 2010 9:22:49pm

re: #90 Dr. Shalit

3. The Gazans end their Anal-Cephalic Politics and realize that they occupy a Potential “Club Med” Arab/Left “Arafatland Theme Park” that well heeled Europeans would PAY to visit, so long as it were complete with Casinos, et. al. AND MAKE MONEY - Not Yet, but one Always Hopes.

Palestinian politics may be that of a refugee camp, but try to think with those of your bodyparts provided for that. Who´d want to have casinos and stuff in their backyard, when the currency is just being screwed by too much gambling in the markets? If Gaza went into the direction you are pointing at, it would become like a reservation with the population density of a ghetto, with inhabitants living off the suckers but with no recognizable purpose. The issue at stake for the Palestinians here is that the planetary resources accessible from that region are still controlled by retarded tyrants who deny them and others their fair share. When the thinking goes beyond Israel (resp. the U.S.) acting as their prop, losing the issue which brought one there in the first place would be like spiritual suicide. In other words, they are already following that recommendation.

95 ClaudeMonet  Thu, May 13, 2010 12:01:46am

re: #94 Sacred Plants

Palestinian politics may be that of a refugee camp, but try to think with those of your bodyparts provided for that. Who´d want to have casinos and stuff in their backyard, when the currency is just being screwed by too much gambling in the markets? If Gaza went into the direction you are pointing at, it would become like a reservation with the population density of a ghetto, with inhabitants living off the suckers but with no recognizable purpose. The issue at stake for the Palestinians here is that the planetary resources accessible from that region are still controlled by retarded tyrants who deny them and others their fair share. When the thinking goes beyond Israel (resp. the U.S.) acting as their prop, losing the issue which brought one there in the first place would be like spiritual suicide. In other words, they are already following that recommendation.

There are no resources in Gaza. It’s just a densely-populated POS area that neither the Israelis nor the Egyptians want because its people have nothing and want everything. There are no “resources” (I assume you mean oil) in Israel, either, but its people have made something out of it, a somewhat foreign concept in the rest of the Middle East, and while there are few “resources” in Egypt, its people have managed to keep things somewhat stable.

Life in Gaza, like that in the rest of the oil-poor areas of the Middle East, could be much better, if their “fellow Muslims” with oil money would see fit to aid them in their development. The rich among the Arab countries have chosen not to do this. My advice to Hamas (as if they’d listen) is—work it out with your “brothers”.

96 Sacred Plants  Thu, May 13, 2010 4:01:56am

re: #95 ClaudeMonet

Region goes as far as weapons reach, and stability as deep as corruption does, but would you really want to have Hamas point missiles at the Arab throne to work that out?

97 shlomzie  Thu, May 13, 2010 5:27:35am

This in from the University of California in San Diego.

This week David Horowitz encountered a Muslim Student Union supporter during his appearance at the University of California in San Diego. In the question and answer session, Horowitz had this exchange with her:

Horowitz: Okay. Will you condemn Hamas, here and now?

MSA member: I’m sorry, what?

Horowitz: Will you condemn Hamas?

MSA member: Would I condemn Hamas?

Horowitz: As a terrorist organization. Genocidal organization.

MSA member: Are you asking me to put myself on a cross?

Horowitz: So you won’t. I have actually had this experience many times. You didn’t actually read the pamphlet, because the pamphlet is chapter and verse. The main connection is that the MSA is part of the Muslim Brotherhood Network as revealed…

MSA member: I don’t think you understood what I meant by that. I meant if I say something, I am sure that I will be arrested, for reasons of homeland security. So if you could please just answer my question.

Horowitz: If you condemn Hamas, Homeland Security will arrest you?

MSA member: If I support Hamas, because your question forces me to condemn Hamas. If I support Hamas, I look really bad.

Horowitz: If you don’t condemn Hamas, obviously you support it. Case closed. I have had this experience at UC Santa Barbara, where there were 50 members of the Muslim Students Association sitting right in the rows there. And throughout my hour talk I kept asking them, will you condemn Hizbollah and Hamas. And none of them would. And then when the question period came, the president of the Muslim Students Association was the first person to ask a question. And I said, ‘Before you start, will you condemn Hizbollah?’ And he said, ‘Well, that question is too complicated for a yes or no answer.’ So I said, ‘Okay, I’ll put it to you this way. I am a Jew. The head of Hizbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally. For or Against it?

MSA member: For it.

Horowitz: Thank you. Thank you for coming and showing everyone what’s here…

The video is available at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fSvyv0urTE&feature=player_embedded

98 Sacred Plants  Thu, May 13, 2010 10:51:47am

re: #97 shlomzie

Even if I expressed disapproval on the same scale as of the regime of Burma it wouldn´t help any more than it could if Hamas went in the footsteps of the opposition of Burma to convince the United Nations to condemn the regime of Arabia. Practically this does mean that the international community needs to regulate the oil industry.


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