NYT: Gaza Through Fresh Eyes

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During the Gaza flotilla incident, there was a deluge of propaganda from pro-Palestinian sources claiming that Israel’s blockade was causing poverty and starvation in Gaza. But here’s an article and photo essay from noted pro-Israel shill the New York Times (ahem) with a perspective that might surprise you: Gaza, Through Fresh Eyes.

GAZA — For some, it’s the relative modernity — the jazzy cellphone stores and pricey restaurants. For others, it’s the endless beaches with children whooping it up. But for nearly everyone who visits Gaza, often with worry of danger and hostility, what’s surprising is the fact that daily life, while troubled, often has the staggering quality of the very ordinary.

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1 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:13:21pm

EoZ wrote up an excellent post about this.

Instead of putting Gaza in context, the media and NGOs have grotesquely twisted the story of Gaza into a parody of objectivity. Gaza is presented as being one of the worst places to live in the planet, and this is simply a lie. Egyptians a few miles away are poorer than Gazans but do not get pledges of hundreds of millions of dollars to make their lives easier. People in sub-Saharan Africa can only dream about the daily caloric intake of the average Gazan, and they are not spending their days emailing letters to the editor about their lack of Arabic World Cup coverage. The idea of a new dress shop opening at a high-end mall, as shown in the second photo above, does not jibe with the the narrative of extreme poverty or of “slow genocide.”

Gaza’s truth has been perverted by the hatred that many have of Israel. This has strengthened Hamas immeasurably, and it also forces Gazans to live under an unyielding Islamist rule that will not change as long as this status quo exists.

Which brings up another underreported story - the fact that the so-called humanitarian groups are not motivated by love of Arabs, but rather by hate of Israel.

2 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:13:47pm

Where are the pictures of people starving in the streets?

3 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:13:55pm

As a New Yorker I have a basic distrust of the Times…

4 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:14:06pm

re: #1 Joo-LiZ

Oh, and THANKS to the NYT for finally mentioning this tiny little bit of truth! (and to Charles for blasting that bit of truth through the megaphone of LGF)

5 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:15:14pm

re: #2 Alouette

Where are the pictures of people starving in the streets?

on order from Reuters… they are a bit busy now.

6 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:15:48pm

As a Jew, I am sick and fed up with all the moonbats (like Medea Benjamin, Neturei Karta, J Street and Michael Lerner) claiming to speak “in the name of the Jews”

7 ryannon  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:16:30pm

Yes, but whither the Gaza Rooster?

8 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:16:32pm

re: #3 brookly red

As a New Yorker person with a somewhat functioning brain I have a basic distrust of the Times…

My take on the matter.

9 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:17:52pm

And in case anyone missed it, here’s Stephen Colbert with the Israeli ambassador. I think he takes a pro-Israel stance in his own way.

Colbert Nation Video

And here’s everyone’s favorite, Bill Maher, siding with reality.

Youtube Video
10 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:19:19pm

Heh. Broken clock alert - Rep. Charles Rangel (D-tax evader/NY) has called for an investigation of flotilla participants if they seek US visas, in addition to other NY politicians including Rep. Weiner (D-NY).

Oh, and Hamas thugs know how to wear uniforms when it suits them. Those uniforms disappear when it comes time to attack Israel though.

11 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:19:30pm

Helen Thomas sure opened a freaking huge can of worms.

It’s depressing how many people are cheering for her and applauding her for “having the courage to tell the troof” and “the Jooz took her down”

Did I mention that most of these cheerleaders are at Huffpo and DailyKos?

12 OldnGrumpy  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:20:33pm

I’m still not adding Gaza to my vacation-spot list.

13 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:21:32pm

re: #11 Alouette

Helen Thomas sure opened a freaking huge can of worms.

It’s depressing how many people are cheering for her and applauding her for “having the courage to tell the troof” and “the Jooz took her down”

Did I mention that most of these cheerleaders are at Huffpo and DailyKos?


You forgot Stormfront…

14 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:21:55pm

re: #12 OldnGrumpy

I’m still not adding Gaza to my vacation-spot list.

Awww gee, why not? I hear it beautiful when the bombs aren’t dropping!//

15 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:23:25pm

re: #12 OldnGrumpy

I’m still not adding Gaza to my vacation-spot list.

One of the saddest parts of this whole miserable story is that Gaza really could be a premium tourist destination — the beaches are exceptional.

If not for Hamas.

16 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:24:29pm

re: #13 JasonA

You forgot Stormfront…

Stormfront didn’t show up on the Google search, but Huffpo, Kos, Rosie O’Donnell and Firedoglake all did. It may be that Stormfront is blocked from Google.

17 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:24:54pm

No photographs of the destroyed greenhouses?

18 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:25:06pm

re: #7 ryannon

Yes, but whither the Gaza Rooster?

*burp*

19 OldnGrumpy  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:25:15pm

re: #15 Charles

One of the saddest parts of this whole miserable story is that Gaza really could be a premium tourist destination — the beaches are exceptional.

If not for Hamas.

Indeed

20 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:25:22pm

re: #15 Charles

One of the saddest parts of this whole miserable story is that Gaza really could be a premium tourist destination. If not for Hamas.

They would rather kill Juice than become a Riviera on the South Mediterranean.

21 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:26:13pm

re: #15 Charles

All one has to do is look just north of Gaza and see a series of premier tourist destinations and awesome beaches in Israel including Netanya and Tel Aviv. It could be a banking and tech center like Tel Aviv or even Beirut (which was frequently called the Paris of the Middle East until the Lebanese civil war and PLO decided to turn the country into a mess).

The potential is there - but the polity isn’t.

22 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:26:20pm

re: #12 OldnGrumpy

I’m still not adding Gaza to my vacation-spot list.

I’d go if they ever got their shit together and booted Hamas.

23 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:27:33pm

re: #22 MandyManners

I’d go if they ever got their shit together and booted Hamas.

Hamas is just a symptom of the problem.

24 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:27:48pm

None of these pictures are surprising. You can find pictures like this all the time at Daylife.

Those pictures of Gaza children starving in the streets and the piles of mass-murdered corpses stacked up like firewood are all being hidden from the media by those horrible Juice…

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25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:28:04pm
GAZA — For some, it’s the relative modernity — the jazzy cellphone stores and pricey restaurants. For others, it’s the endless beaches with children whooping it up. But for nearly everyone who visits Gaza, often with worry of danger and hostility, what’s surprising is the fact that daily life, while troubled, often has the staggering quality of the very ordinary.

WTF kind of apartheid concentration camp is Israel running over there?
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26 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:28:35pm

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

WTF kind of apartheid concentration camp is Israel running over there?
///

Concentration camp EPIC FAIL

27 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:28:51pm

And NPR had a radio broadcast this past weekend detailing all the items that were not available in Gaza… coriander and other stuff… I don’t pay real close attention when NPR is on, so I don’t know the show or reporter(s)… maybe someone else heard it.

So… who is spinning all this… NPR, NYT, conservatives, Israel, Hamas… it gets deeper than hog shit at a stockyard.

28 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:29:38pm

re: #20 Alouette

They would rather kill Juice than become a Riviera on the South Mediterranean.

I had noticed that bad habit of theirs. Over the years I have lost all feelings of pity for the Palestinians except for the children whom they’re doing a very good job of corrupting, they have earned the scorn of the world. As the saying goes “Ye shall reap what Ye sow”.

29 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:30:44pm

re: #23 JasonA

Hamas is just a symptom of the problem.

Well, they were elected.

30 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:31:00pm

re: #2 Alouette

Where are the pictures of people starving in the streets?

No Reuters stringer was available to accompany the NYT people.

31 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:31:26pm

re: #27 Walter L. Newton

And NPR had a radio broadcast this past weekend detailing all the items that were not available in Gaza… coriander and other stuff… I don’t pay real close attention when NPR is on, so I don’t know the show or reporter(s)… maybe someone else heard it.

So… who is spinning all this… NPR, NYT, conservatives, Israel, Hamas… it gets deeper than hog shit at a stockyard.

This may be the basis for the radio report…

[Link: www.npr.org…]

32 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:31:29pm

re: #28 Dragon_Lady

I had noticed that bad habit of theirs. Over the years I have lost all feelings of pity for the Palestinians except for the children whom they’re doing a very good job of corrupting, they have earned the scorn of the world. As the saying goes “Ye shall reap what Ye sow”.

We need to start a pool for how Tomorrow’s Pioneer’s newest mascot will be martyred.

.5/

33 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:31:44pm

re: #27 Walter L. Newton

And NPR had a radio broadcast this past weekend detailing all the items that were not available in Gaza… coriander and other stuff… I don’t pay real close attention when NPR is on, so I don’t know the show or reporter(s)… maybe someone else heard it.

So… who is spinning all this… NPR, NYT, conservatives, Israel, Hamas… it gets deeper than hog shit at a stockyard.

Conservatives are spinning this?

34 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:32:34pm

re: #29 MandyManners

Well, they were elected.

My point is getting rid of Hamas doesn’t mean love for the Jewish people will be spewing out of the strip. That’s all.

35 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:32:55pm

re: #32 JasonA

We need to start a pool for how Tomorrow’s Pioneer’s newest mascot will be martyred.

.5/

What’s the newest one?

36 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:33:58pm

re: #34 JasonA

My point is getting rid of Hamas doesn’t mean love for the Jewish people will be spewing out of the strip. That’s all.

True. However, Hamas is not doing a damn thing to make Gaza function. Busy people have little time to act on hatred.

37 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:34:38pm

re: #15 Charles

One of the saddest parts of this whole miserable story is that Gaza really could be a premium tourist destination — the beaches are exceptional.

If not for Hamas.

I’ve argued this on other blogs only to be laughed at. These are not stupid people. It isn’t going to happen in our lifetimes though.

38 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:35:00pm

I had that posted here on “Pages” on Sunday…what struck me was that the reporter/photographer were scrambling for negative things to say.

One fact that stood out was that they had do drink Coca-Cola “smuggled in” from Egypt! Here in CA, we do that, too, but from Mexico. Only Mexican Coca-Cola gives you glass bottles and real sugar. I didn’t realize that having to drink smuggled Coca-Cola made me oppressed.

39 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:36:11pm

re: #31 Walter L. Newton

This may be the basis for the radio report…

[Link: www.npr.org…]

What is on the list and what isn’t is sort of baffling. Having said that, nobody is going to die because they can’t get frozen salmon or coriander. They have all the necessities, and alot of things that clearly aren’t needed to survive.

Clearly, Gaza isn’t starving, and equally clearly, some of the items not allowed into Gaza are harmless, and there’s no good reason to not allow them.

40 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:37:25pm

re: #35 MandyManners

What’s the newest one?

I think it’s a bear or something. Maybe this one’ll kick puppies like the bee picked up cats by their tails…

41 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:37:38pm

re: #37 Boogberg

Having been to Gaza myself, and the beaches just north of it in Israel, I can attest that the beaches are beautiful! The Palestinian,with a little planning, could take advantage of the depression, and become an alternative to Dubai, with less excess and nicer beaches.

In fact, Gaza could serve as a bridge between the Arab world and the west, at least for trading and tourism. What an opportunity they’re squandering….

42 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:37:52pm

re: #33 MandyManners

Conservatives are spinning this?

EVERY interested party is spinning this. Seriously, it’s damn near impossible to find simple fact-based accounts of what is going on that aren’t in some way spun toward a specific audience.

43 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:38:15pm

re: #27 Walter L. Newton

And NPR had a radio broadcast this past weekend detailing all the items that were not available in Gaza… coriander and other stuff… I don’t pay real close attention when NPR is on, so I don’t know the show or reporter(s)… maybe someone else heard it.

So… who is spinning all this… NPR, NYT, conservatives, Israel, Hamas… it gets deeper than hog shit at a stockyard.

That’s been a popular talking point (that the evil Israelis, who aren’t allowing “luxury items” like coriander and other spices into Gaza, are causing unnecessary suffering), and I recently read somewhere that the “list” of items was actually a list of items that was deduced as having been banned, from interviews with private shop owners in Gaza.

In other words, if no Gaza shop had a specific spice, this Human Rights Organization listed it as “banned” and circulated that list.

44 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:38:20pm

re: #39 Fozzie Bear

We don’t know there isn’t a good reason. Stuff like that can be mysterious, sometimes. If all the supplies have to be searched in some way, then certain things might be forbidden because they’re simply too onerous to search, for example.

45 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:39:04pm

re: #40 JasonA

I think it’s a bear or something. Maybe this one’ll kick puppies like the bee picked up cats by their tails…

Yeah, it is a bear. I think Alouette posted a link to her blog’s photograph of it or something.

46 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:39:35pm

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Wheelchairs!

47 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:39:49pm

re: #42 Fozzie Bear

EVERY interested party is spinning this. Seriously, it’s damn near impossible to find simple fact-based accounts of what is going on that aren’t in some way spun toward a specific audience.

Right here you’ll find it.

48 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:39:51pm

re: #38 reuven

Only Mexican Coca-Cola gives you glass bottles and real sugar.

You can sometimes find that at your local Taqueria. At least ‘round my parts.

49 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:39:57pm

re: #13 JasonA

You forgot Stormfront…

And DU.

50 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:40:14pm

re: #45 MandyManners

Yeah, it is a bear. I think Alouette posted a link to her blog’s photograph of it or something.

Hamas mascots and their deaths at the hands of the eeville Juice:

Youtube Video
51 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:40:46pm

re: #43 Joo-LiZ

That’s been a popular talking point (that the evil Israelis, who aren’t allowing “luxury items” like coriander and other spices into Gaza, are causing unnecessary suffering), and I recently read somewhere that the “list” of items was actually a list of items that was deduced as having been banned, from interviews with private shop owners in Gaza.

In other words, if no Gaza shop had a specific spice, this Human Rights Organization listed it as “banned” and circulated that list.

I’d like to kick up a fuss about the blatant dishonesty of that but, I’ve come to expect it.

52 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:41:03pm

re: #39 Fozzie Bear

What is on the list and what isn’t is sort of baffling. Having said that, nobody is going to die because they can’t get frozen salmon or coriander. They have all the necessities, and alot of things that clearly aren’t needed to survive.

Clearly, Gaza isn’t starving, and equally clearly, some of the items not allowed into Gaza are harmless, and there’s no good reason to not allow them.

Well… a NPR reader knows the answer…

“”The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger,” Dov Weisglass, an adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, told the Israeli media. Quote from a few years ago but still the Isreali objective just like the Nazis did feed the just just enough so they could still do work in the forced labor camps.”

53 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:41:03pm

re: #38 reuven

I had that posted here on “Pages” on Sunday…what struck me was that the reporter/photographer were scrambling for negative things to say.

One fact that stood out was that they had do drink Coca-Cola “smuggled in” from Egypt! Here in CA, we do that, too, but from Mexico. Only Mexican Coca-Cola gives you glass bottles and real sugar. I didn’t realize that having to drink smuggled Coca-Cola made me oppressed.

“Real” Coca-Cola is also available during the Passover holiday.

54 RogueOne  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:41:46pm

OT:

The woman in CA who killed the kid and stuffed her in a suitcase took a plea deal today:

Killer of Calif. girl found in suitcase gets life


STOCKTON, Calif. (AP) - A Sunday school teacher who pleaded guilty to kidnapping and murdering a neighbor girl in Northern California made a tearful apology to the victim’s family Monday as she was sentenced to prison for the rest of her life.

The punishment came after Melissa Huckaby, 29, reached a plea deal with prosecutors that took the death penalty and the possibility of parole off the table in the killing of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu of Tracy, whose body was found in a suitcase pulled from an irrigation pond.

[Link: apnews.myway.com…]

55 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:41:51pm

re: #27 Walter L. Newton

And NPR had a radio broadcast this past weekend detailing all the items that were not available in Gaza… coriander and other stuff… I don’t pay real close attention when NPR is on, so I don’t know the show or reporter(s)… maybe someone else heard it.

Do they have arugula?

56 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:42:13pm

re: #53 Alouette

“Real” Coca-Cola is also available during the Passover holiday.

Mmmm… yellow caps.

57 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:42:17pm

re: #43 Joo-LiZ

That’s been a popular talking point (that the evil Israelis, who aren’t allowing “luxury items” like coriander and other spices into Gaza, are causing unnecessary suffering), and I recently read somewhere that the “list” of items was actually a list of items that was deduced as having been banned, from interviews with private shop owners in Gaza.

In other words, if no Gaza shop had a specific spice, this Human Rights Organization listed it as “banned” and circulated that list.

Coriander is not a luxury in Middle eastern cooking, it is an essential ingredient.

A clear violation of basic human rights

/

58 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:43:09pm

re: #42 Fozzie Bear

EVERY interested party is spinning this. Seriously, it’s damn near impossible to find simple fact-based accounts of what is going on that aren’t in some way spun toward a specific audience.

I am seriously sick and tired of the spin doctors, they never tell the truth and the sheep of our society seem to believe they can tell no lies. I lost an Aunt a few years ago that would never believe any journalist would lie. I used to “face-palm” myself every time I talked to her. I finally just stopped talking about anything political when she was around. *Sigh*

59 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:43:47pm

of course, it would have been nice if the Times had mentioned that Israel (and Egypt) restrict items flowing into Gaza because THEY ARE FIRING MISSILES AT CIVILIANS.

60 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:43:59pm

re: #43 Joo-LiZ

That’s been a popular talking point (that the evil Israelis, who aren’t allowing “luxury items” like coriander and other spices into Gaza, are causing unnecessary suffering), and I recently read somewhere that the “list” of items was actually a list of items that was deduced as having been banned, from interviews with private shop owners in Gaza.

In other words, if no Gaza shop had a specific spice, this Human Rights Organization listed it as “banned” and circulated that list.

Actually, I found where I saw it. It was in another post by EoZ (again, I seem to be citing him a lot, lately)

By the way: there is no Israeli blacklist of items allowed in Gaza that includes coriander or jams. Gisha made up a list that they “deduced” from speaking to Gazans; that list was publicized by reporters and activists who thought it was too good to check. In fact, the IDF works on a day-to-day basis with various NGOs and others in Gaza to see what can make it in the upcoming shipments. Israel does have a list of allowed items that will always be allowed in; everything else is done on a case by case basis. If UNRWA made a special request for coriander or chocolate, there is no doubt that it would be allowed in. Right now, the problem is bureaucratic and practical, not policy.

You can trust it or not, but I first saw that claim at EoZ.

Also, as a more general argument. It is not the responsibility of Israel to allow in anything that isn’t a weapon. Israel shouldn’t be responsible for running Gaza’s customs. There is a blockade and siege in place. Israel’s only obligation is to ensure the basics are allowed in, to prevent a humanitarian crisis. Israel goes above and beyond that obligation.

61 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:44:05pm

OT - I’m reading The House on Garibaldi Street. Just got to the part where they captured Eichmann and bring him to a safe house. It’s as good as any spy novel I’ve read.

62 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:44:22pm

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

Well… a NPR reader knows the answer…

“”The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger,” Dov Weisglass, an adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, told the Israeli media. Quote from a few years ago but still the Isreali objective just like the Nazis did feed the just just enough so they could still do work in the forced labor camps.”

I think it is sort of a truism of our age that if you want to get at the unvarnished truth of a matter, the place you go to look is NOT the comments section of any major media outlet.

63 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:44:31pm

re: #50 Alouette

Hamas mascots and their deaths at the hands of the eeville Juice:

[Video]

Those assholes would slip Scooby some arsenic in his scooby snack.

64 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:45:07pm

re: #38 reuven

I had that posted here on “Pages” on Sunday…what struck me was that the reporter/photographer were scrambling for negative things to say.

One fact that stood out was that they had do drink Coca-Cola “smuggled in” from Egypt! Here in CA, we do that, too, but from Mexico. Only Mexican Coca-Cola gives you glass bottles and real sugar. I didn’t realize that having to drink smuggled Coca-Cola made me oppressed.

A catering truck here in Lubbock has several kinds of glass-bottle Mexican soda, including the Nehi grape of revered childhood memory. I flag him down and buy one once in a while if I happen to be outside when he passes by. It’s a minor but completely authentic nostalgia trip.

65 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:45:08pm

re: #63 MandyManners

Those assholes would slip Scooby some arsenic in his scooby snack.

I wouldn’t put it past them.

66 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:45:12pm

re: #57 ralphieboy

Coriander is not a luxury in Middle eastern cooking, it is an essential ingredient.

A clear violation of basic human rights

/

The saffron riots would probably last for decades!

/

67 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:45:33pm

re: #62 Fozzie Bear

I think it is sort of a truism of our age that if you want to get at the unvarnished truth of a matter, the place you go to look is NOT the comments section of any major media outlet.

Funny, readers comments from other websites are posted here quite often to prove a point…

68 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:45:37pm

re: #61 Mad Al-Jaffee

Is he “little”.

69 cliffster  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:45:43pm

re: #63 MandyManners

Those assholes would slip Scooby some arsenic in his scooby snack.

and they would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn’t been for those meddling lizards

70 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:46:01pm

re: #53 Alouette

yes, but the פּסחדיק Coca-Cola (with sugar) doesn’t come in glass bottles!

71 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:46:07pm

re: #50 Alouette

Hamas mascots and their deaths at the hands of the eeville Juice:


[Video]

Really, can blame the Jews for putting down a rabbit that had a taste for human flesh?

/

72 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:46:31pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

Radar would be very happy. (TV version, that is.)

73 Bagua  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:46:39pm

re: #71 JasonA

Really, can blame the Jews for putting down a rabbit that had a taste for human flesh?

/

They hated that bunny!

74 darthstar  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:46:40pm

OT: Paraguay 1 : Italy 0 at the 60 minute mark.

75 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:47:23pm

re: #74 darthstar

OT: Paraguay 1 : Italy 0 at the 60 minute mark.

I hope another touchdown is scored soon!

76 Bagua  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:47:33pm

re: #2 Alouette

Where are the pictures of people starving in the streets?

Photoshop can only do so much.

77 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:47:35pm

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

Well… a NPR reader knows the answer…

“”The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger,” Dov Weisglass, an adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, told the Israeli media. Quote from a few years ago but still the Isreali objective just like the Nazis did feed the just just enough so they could still do work in the forced labor camps.”

This is a made-up fake quote. Weisglass has denied he ever said such a thing, but of course it is circulated all over the moonbat and anti-Semitic blogosphere.

78 Bagua  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:47:55pm

re: #75 Mad Al-Jaffee

I hope another touchdown is scored soon!

It’s baseball dummy, they don’t have touchdowns!

79 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:48:25pm

re: #70 reuven

yes, but the פּסחדיק Coca-Cola (with sugar) doesn’t come in glass bottles!

And that difference is huge. Walgreens sells some brand of soda that uses real sugar and glass bottles, don’t recall the name though. Not really a big soda drinker myself.

80 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:48:28pm

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

Funny, readers comments from other websites are posted here quite often to prove a point…

I understand that, and I get why, but it still seems to me that if a website has a comments section, and that section is open to the public, some crazy shit is going to be posted.

Lets face it, some of the loudest voices in our society are also some of the craziest.

81 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:48:45pm

re: #66 MrSilverDragon

The saffron riots would probably last for decades!

/


Just try blockading Cool Whip anywhere in America!

/

82 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:49:18pm

re: #41 reuven

Having been to Gaza myself, and the beaches just north of it in Israel, I can attest that the beaches are beautiful! The Palestinian,with a little planning, could take advantage of the depression, and become an alternative to Dubai, with less excess and nicer beaches.

In fact, Gaza could serve as a bridge between the Arab world and the west, at least for trading and tourism. What an opportunity they’re squandering…

It really pisses me off. It could be so much better if people would just think. But people don’t want to build there because of insurance costs. Much as I support the Israelis, I’d be VERY pissed if they leveled my $500 Million hotel.

83 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:49:19pm

re: #77 Alouette

This is a made-up fake quote. Weisglass has denied he ever said such a thing, but of course it is circulated all over the moonbat and anti-Semitic blogosphere.

I didn’t say it was true or what ever… I was pointing out some of the outrageous reactions to the Gaza “lack of supplies” meme.

84 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:49:59pm

re: #80 Fozzie Bear

I understand that, and I get why, but it still seems to me that if a website has a comments section, and that section is open to the public, some crazy shit is going to be posted.

Lets face it, some of the loudest voices in our society are also some of the craziest.

What do you “get why?”

85 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:50:06pm

re: #81 ralphieboy

Just try blockading Cool Whip anywhere in America!

/

You can have my spicy mustard when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

86 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:51:01pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

What do you “get why?”

I’m not sure what you are asking here.

87 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:51:09pm

re: #85 Mad Al-Jaffee

Elitist!

88 darthstar  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:51:21pm

And Italy ties it at the 63 minute mark…

89 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:51:46pm

Sure is one humanitarian crisis going on there in Gaza. What with the “jazzy cellphone stores and pricey restaurants” and aging Mercedes Benz taxis.

You know. I wouldn’t be surprised if life in Gaza was far better than your average Arab nation metropolitan area.

90 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:51:51pm

re: #78 Bagua

It’s baseball dummy, they don’t have touchdowns!

Well I hope some three point baskets are scored!

91 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:52:02pm

re: #88 darthstar

And Italy ties it at the 63 minute mark…

All the radio shows are talking today about how annoying the horns are. Is it really that bad?

92 albusteve  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:52:04pm

well the Iranians are on the way to Gaza…fortunately they are too hasty to bring 25 ships at once…that along with a half million Lebanese swarming against the northern border…a stepped up missile lobbing campaign by Hamas, threats from the Syrians to declare a war of liberation…etc…could be worse

93 Bagua  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:52:24pm

re: #85 Mad Al-Jaffee

You can have my spicy mustard when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

If you washed your hands after eating like I told you we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

94 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:52:46pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

All the radio shows are talking today about how annoying the horns are. Is it really that bad?

They make the headbutts a lot more interesting.

/

95 albusteve  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:52:51pm

re: #78 Bagua

It’s baseball dummy, they don’t have touchdowns!

nor perfect games anymore

96 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:52:57pm

re: #85 Mad Al-Jaffee

You can have my spicy mustard when you pry it from my cold, dead, deliciously spicy hands.

FTFY

97 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:53:14pm

re: #65 Dragon_Lady

I wouldn’t put it past them.

Did you watch Alouette’s video of how the others died? This is mental and emotional abuse.

98 subsailor68  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:53:28pm

re: #88 darthstar

And Italy ties it at the 63 minute mark…

So they’re both one over par now?

;-)

99 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:53:29pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

All the radio shows are talking today about how annoying the horns are. Is it really that bad?

I heard on the German radio today that they have use audio filters to try and dampen the vuvuzela frequencies for broadcasts, yes.

100 darthstar  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:53:30pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

All the radio shows are talking today about how annoying the horns are. Is it really that bad?

It is, but if you watch the televised coverage they reduce the crowd noise so the announcers are easy to hear. Apparently, the vuvuzuelas (sp?) make about a 127db noise…more than a passing airliner.

101 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:53:31pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

All the radio shows are talking today about how annoying the horns are. Is it really that bad?

At first I heard about this story and listened to the “annoying horns.” Over time I found myself thinking that the story of the annoying horns is more annoying than the annoying horns.

102 albusteve  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:53:47pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

All the radio shows are talking today about how annoying the horns are. Is it really that bad?

yes

103 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:53:53pm

A bridal shop in Gaza City. [Link: www.nytimes.com…]

This could be any shop in downtown Miami.

There IS poverty, of course. They also showed a family living in a tent.

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Omsyat Awaja, 14, getting ready for school. Her brother was killed in the conflict, and her family lives in tents in Beit Lahiya in the north of the Gaza Strip.

This could have been because of Israel or Hamas, we don’t know. If they are not Hamas supporters, they will suffer. If they smuggle in guns and weapons and hide them in their homes, Israel will find them and destroy them.

Btw, I’ve seen life on American Indian reservations where there is no gambling and the Arabs live like kings next to those people.

104 cliffster  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:53:55pm

re: #93 Bagua

If you washed your hands after eating like I told you we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

wash.. rinse.. repeat… got it? wash, rinse, repeat.

105 RogueOne  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:54:07pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

All the radio shows are talking today about how annoying the horns are. Is it really that bad?

Youtube Video
106 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:54:35pm

re: #86 Fozzie Bear

I’m not sure what you are asking here.

Ypu said… “the place you go to look is NOT the comments section of any major media outlet.” I said… “Funny, readers comments from other websites are posted here quite often to prove a point…” and you said… “I understand that, and I get why…”

You get why… explain, according to the logic chain above…

107 Bagua  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:55:20pm

re: #101 Gus 802

At first I heard about this story and listened to the “annoying horns.” Over time I found myself thinking that the story of the annoying horns is more annoying than the annoying horns.

Gus, those “annoying horns” are actually native mating rituals. It’s part of their culture.

108 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:55:24pm

re: #82 Boogberg

It really pisses me off. It could be so much better if people would just think. But people don’t want to build there because of insurance costs. Much as I support the Israelis, I’d be VERY pissed if they leveled my $500 Million hotel.

You shouldn’t let your property be used by terrorists.

109 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:55:26pm

re: #97 MandyManners

Did you watch Alouette’s video of how the others died? This is mental and emotional abuse.

I’m afraid I missed it, but nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to those people. Over the years they have only gotten worse when it comes to those kinds of things and I’m afraid they’ll never change.

110 Bloodnok  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:55:26pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

All the radio shows are talking today about how annoying the horns are. Is it really that bad?

Yes. It is what I would imagine standing in the middle of a mosquito swarm while wearing a Miracle Ear would sound like. Only louder.

111 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:55:32pm

re: #66 MrSilverDragon

The saffron riots would probably last for decades!

/

LOL I’m just MAD about saffron!

Youtube Video
112 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:55:51pm

re: #104 cliffster

wash.. rinse.. repeat… got it? wash, rinse, repeat.

Isn’t that for shampoo?

113 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:55:53pm

re: #107 Bagua

Gus, those “annoying horns” are actually native mating rituals. It’s part of their culture.

Is it? Even more reason to let them be.

114 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:56:12pm

re: #111 marjoriemoon

LOL I’m just MAD about saffron!

[Video]

In Russia, Saffron mad about you!!!

115 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:56:29pm

re: #103 marjoriemoon

Or go to Detroit, or rural Appalachia.

Poverty is difficult enough to combat even without a corrupt government waging an insane war.

116 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:56:44pm

re: #101 Gus 802

At first I heard about this story and listened to the “annoying horns.” Over time I found myself thinking that the story of the annoying horns is more annoying than the annoying horns.

Ha!

117 cliffster  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:57:18pm

re: #110 Bloodnok

Yes. It is what I would imagine standing in the middle of a mosquito swarm while wearing a Miracle Ear would sound like. Only louder.

What does a swarm of butterfiles sound like?

118 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:57:43pm

re: #103 marjoriemoon

A bridal shop in Gaza City. [Link: www.nytimes.com…]

This could be any shop in downtown Miami.

There IS poverty, of course. They also showed a family living in a tent.

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]


This could have been because of Israel or Hamas, we don’t know. If they are not Hamas supporters, they will suffer. If they smuggle in guns and weapons and hide them in their homes, Israel will find them and destroy them.

Btw, I’ve seen life on American Indian reservations where there is no gambling and the Arabs live like kings next to those people.

How many Israelis who were removed from Gaza are living in settlements still?

119 Bagua  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:57:45pm

re: #92 albusteve

well the Iranians are on the way to Gaza…fortunately they are too hasty to bring 25 ships at once…that along with a half million Lebanese swarming against the northern border…a stepped up missile lobbing campaign by Hamas, threats from the Syrians to declare a war of liberation…etc…could be worse

Peace Jihad

This is an escalation of the Intifada strategy. First to create the situation where Israeli soldiers have to fight using only riot control techniques, any use of firearms, even when attacked with metal pipes, rocks or knives will result in condemnation by the international community. Then these infiltration techniques mount, become a swarm, combined with an intifada type uprising in Israel.

As we saw with the Aid Boat Jihad, 15 Israelis armed with non-lethal weapons can not control 50 peace activists attacking them with metal pipes, knives, stun grenades, Molotov cocktails, bottles, and guns. The Israelis will be have no choice but to use deadly force. The international community, especially the EU, UN and the media, will howl and demonise Israel on cue.

These peace Jihadis are not marching on Israel in order to put flowers in their guns, they are not interested in equal rights, they intend to slit the Jews throats and beat them to death. Eventually. That is the goal in stages. But first the Israelis must be harried, terrorised, demonised, weakened and exhausted on all fronts, political, financial and military.

With all this pressure to delegitimise and harass Israel from all sides. How can they focus their military to fend off missiles and mortars from Hezbollah and Hamas, with their patrons Syria and Iran looming with still greater threats.

The Israeli military, intelligence and government will be too preoccupied with the swarming peace Jihad and answering all the blood libels.

The vile international community and media will be too occupied with fabrications of Israeli war crimes each time the Israelis use minimum force to ward off a beating, knifing, abduction, missile, rocket and mortar attack.

How can a tiny country the size of New Jersey with a Jewish population about half the population of New York City survive against an endless Jihad on all fronts, military media, and political?

120 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:57:50pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

Ha!

Vuvuzela!

121 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:58:19pm

re: #109 Dragon_Lady

I’m afraid I missed it, but nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to those people. Over the years they have only gotten worse when it comes to those kinds of things and I’m afraid they’ll never change.

Here it is.


Youtube Video
122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:59:17pm

re: #90 Mad Al-Jaffee

Well I hope some three point baskets are scored!

They won’t have a chance if they keep getting nailed with high sticking penalties.

123 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:59:26pm

re: #115 Obdicut

Or go to Detroit, or rural Appalachia.

Poverty is difficult enough to combat even without a corrupt government waging an insane war.

I’ve seen more satellite dishes in rural Appalachia than I’ve seen anywhere else in the U.S..

124 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:59:27pm

Reuters isn’t publishing many pics out of Gaza these days: Daily life

The majority seem to be from Getty Images. I wonder if Reuters is reviewing its policies.

125 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:59:58pm

re: #107 Bagua

Gus, those “annoying horns” are actually native mating rituals. It’s part of their culture.

So they’re all trying to hook up?

/

126 albusteve  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:00:32pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Vuvuzela!

if they came in different lengths, the fans could do Louie Louie!

127 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:00:46pm

MEMRI is after me for support again. They only ask once or twice a year though. Very cool.

128 Bagua  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:01:12pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Reuters isn’t publishing many pics out of Gaza these days: Daily life

The majority seem to be from Getty Images. I wonder if Reuters is reviewing its policies.

They are busy licking their wounds.

129 Nimed  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:01:13pm

By the way, Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal gave was interviewed by Charlie Rose. Here is the interview, in case anyone is interested.

[Link: www.charlierose.com…]

130 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:01:43pm

re: #126 albusteve

if they came in different lengths, the fans could do Louie Louie!

There you go. Maybe all it needs is some orchestration. I saw on in a video that had to be 8 feet long with a supporting leg (bracket) at the end.

131 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:02:25pm

re: #129 Nimed

I like Charlie Rose.

132 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:02:28pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Reuters isn’t publishing many pics out of Gaza these days: Daily life

The majority seem to be from Getty Images. I wonder if Reuters is reviewing its policies.

Oh, Rangel can bite it.

133 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:02:43pm

Speaking of noise: My nightmare pit bull owning neighbors a few doors down are using their new garage as some sort of constitution shop. Nail guns, chop saws, air compressors going off all day every day. My tranquil garden is very noisy but it has to be worse for other neighbors living closer. I hope people start complaining about the noise soon.

134 ShaunP  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:02:51pm

re: #103 marjoriemoon

A bridal shop in Gaza City. [Link: www.nytimes.com…]

This could be any shop in downtown Miami.

That actually does look like it could be on the mile…

135 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:03:10pm

re: #132 MandyManners

Oh, Rangel can bite it.

You’re into that?

136 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:03:16pm

re: #118 MandyManners

How many Israelis who were removed from Gaza are living in settlements still?

Well it’s funny (not funny haha…), but there is poverty in Israel too, and it’s actually been increasing over the years. There’s orphans and widows of these conflicts there too. Are the Times showing those areas?

137 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:03:31pm

re: #106 Walter L. Newton

Ypu said… “the place you go to look is NOT the comments section of any major media outlet.” I said… “Funny, readers comments from other websites are posted here quite often to prove a point…” and you said… “I understand that, and I get why…”

You get why… explain, according to the logic chain above…

It’s tempting and low-hanging fruit. That’s why.

138 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:04:24pm

re: #97 MandyManners

Did you watch Alouette’s video of how the others died? This is mental and emotional abuse.

I went back and looked at, but I couldn’t watch it all the way through because I didn’t want to loose the lunch I just ate. Those people are truly sick, and I agree with you! It is mental and emotional abuse, and whats worse I think they’re truly brain washing their children to become the next generation of terrorists just to further their agenda. That shows a fundamental lack of caring for their children and future generations that will be growing up with this kind of sick and disgusting thing.

139 Nimed  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:05:00pm

re: #131 Boogberg

I like Charlie Rose.

Does he know how you feel about him?
/

140 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:05:51pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Speaking of noise: My nightmare pit bull owning neighbors a few doors down are using their new garage as some sort of constitution shop. Nail guns, chop saws, air compressors going off all day every day. My tranquil garden is very noisy but it has to be worse for other neighbors living closer. I hope people start complaining about the noise soon.

Maybe they’re assembling that F-16 cousin Jim Bob smuggled out in his lunch box over the years.

141 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:06:14pm

re: #129 Nimed

By the way, Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal gave was interviewed by Charlie Rose. Here is the interview, in case anyone is interested.

[Link: www.charlierose.com…]

Ain’t no way that hair and beard are frosted naturally.

142 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:06:22pm

re: #138 Dragon_Lady

I went back and looked at, but I couldn’t watch it all the way through because I didn’t want to loose the lunch I just ate. Those people are truly sick, and I agree with you! It is mental and emotional abuse, and whats worse I think they’re truly brain washing their children to become the next generation of terrorists just to further their agenda. That shows a fundamental lack of caring for their children and future generations that will be growing up with this kind of sick and disgusting thing.

Israel should start making cartoons for them.

G.I. Jew: A Real American Hebrew!

143 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:06:39pm

re: #132 MandyManners

Oh, Rangel can bite it.

Wait, the caption next to his face says this:

NEW YORK - JUNE 14: U.S. Rep. Charles B. Rangel (D-NY) attends a press conference denouncing the Gaza flotilla June 14, 2010 in New York City. Politicians announced they are calling for federal officials to investigate participants of the Gaza flotilla if they apply for American visas.

So that’s a good thing…

Pictures can be deceiving, particularly with a giant Palestinian flag flying behind him!

144 albusteve  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:06:47pm

re: #130 Gus 802

There you go. Maybe all it needs is some orchestration. I saw on in a video that had to be 8 feet long with a supporting leg (bracket) at the end.

if it was America, I promise you, there would be a Tower of Power blowing

145 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:07:01pm

re: #137 Fozzie Bear

It’s tempting and low-hanging fruit. That’s why.

:)

146 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:07:03pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Speaking of noise: My nightmare pit bull owning neighbors a few doors down are using their new garage as some sort of constitution shop. Nail guns, chop saws, air compressors going off all day every day. My tranquil garden is very noisy but it has to be worse for other neighbors living closer. I hope people start complaining about the noise soon.

I once had a neighbor fire up his compressor down in the parking area. Damn thing was so loud I knew it had to stop within the first 5 minutes. So, I vocalized my feelings about it. Lasted a little while longer and never heard it again. Neighbors from hell can be one of the worst things in life.

147 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:07:22pm

re: #139 Nimed

Does he know how you feel about him?
/

No! The old bastard won’t return my calls. :D

148 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:08:21pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Or they’re having trouble finding stringers who aren’t overtly members of Hamas? Or there really isn’t any news going on there and they’d focus on elsewhere… (which is the most likely answer - after all - why send someone to cover ordinary life events when they are by definition - ordinary).

149 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:08:56pm

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

They won’t have a chance if they keep getting nailed with high sticking penalties.

Have any of the players hit a hole in one yet?

150 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:09:51pm

re: #142 JasonA

Israel should start making cartoons for them.

G.I. Jew: A Real American Hebrew!

I’d pay good money to see that!//

151 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:10:17pm

re: #149 Mad Al-Jaffee

Have any of the players hit a hole in one yet?

Or a birdie?

152 darthstar  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:10:25pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Vuvuzela!

Hey, it plays a Bflat note…I’ll have to start calling my cat Vuvuzela instead of Bflat.

153 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:11:23pm

re: #132 MandyManners

Oh, Rangel can bite it.

If people like Rangel were in jail it would got a long way towards restoring my faith in the system.

154 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:11:30pm

re: #142 JasonA

Israel should start making cartoons for them.

G.I. Jew: A Real American Hebrew!

No way, did you just make that up? I like it!

If I see JUICE or JOOOOOOOSSSS one more time I’m going to scream!!

155 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:11:59pm

Pelé is going to come to each of your houses and give you a kick to the head…

156 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:12:22pm

re: #143 marjoriemoon

So that’s a good thing…

Pictures can be deceiving, particularly with a giant Palestinian flag flying behind him!

I declare, I’m such a ninny! I didn’t see hte caption. Thank you for pointing it out.

157 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:12:22pm

re: #153 brookly red

If people like Rangel were in jail it would got a long way towards restoring my faith in the system.

Mine too.

158 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:12:27pm

re: #142 JasonA

I think The Zohan kind of semi covers that territory.

159 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:13:10pm

re: #154 marjoriemoon

No way, did you just make that up? I like it!

If I see JUICE or JOOOSSS one more time I’m going to scream!!

God, I remember hearing that making the rounds back when I was in grade school. Looking back on it I not so sure it was meant to be complimentary. I’m taking it back!

160 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:13:13pm

re: #147 Boogberg

No! The old bastard won’t return my calls. :D

He’s just playing coy. Now’s the time to make surprise visits to his studio door and his driveway!

161 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:13:17pm

re: #152 darthstar

Hey, it plays a Bflat note…I’ll have to start calling my cat Vuvuzela instead of Bflat.

I first read that as “Vulvazela.” Scary mental picture.

162 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:13:18pm
“From the bullet hole in the wall above the child playing on his outdated computer in a middle-class home, to the couple having dinner sipping Coca-Cola smuggled in from Egypt, the situation in Gaza — the war, the blockade, Hamas — touches everyone,” she said.

Oh sweet Lord, not an out-dated computer and smuggled cokes.
Those damn Israelis.

163 cliffster  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:13:22pm

re: #157 Dragon_Lady

Mine too.

Mine three

164 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:13:56pm

re: #158 Fozzie Bear

I think The Zohan kind of semi covers that territory.

The problem (…debatable…) with Zohan, is that it was more of a comedy for those familiar with and exasperated with the region. Average Joe who watched it wouldn’t have walked away with anything more than they walked in with. “Let’s just all get a long… in New York”

165 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:14:14pm

re: #156 MandyManners

I declare, I’m such a ninny! I didn’t see hte caption. Thank you for pointing it out.

Yes, but you’re OUR ninny! :)

166 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:14:16pm

re: #146 Gus 802

I once had a neighbor fire up his compressor down in the parking area. Damn thing was so loud I knew it had to stop within the first 5 minutes. So, I vocalized my feelings about it. Lasted a little while longer and never heard it again. Neighbors from hell can be one of the worst things in life.

I’ll have to wait for other neighbors to complain. I can’t say anything to them. They’re obsessed with me so I avoid them as much as possible. Everytime someone call the cops on them they think it’s me. Every time one of their pets die they tell their children that I killed it. About a year or two ago she came over screaming that she hired a lawyer and was going to sue me for stalking her. I have no idea what she was talking about. I think she has mental health issues or a drug problem..

167 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:14:26pm

re: #153 brookly red

If people like Rangel were in jail it would got a long way towards restoring my faith in the system.

Read Marjorie’s No. 143.

168 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:14:31pm

re: #154 marjoriemoon

No way, did you just make that up? I like it!

If I see JUICE or JOOOSSS one more time I’m going to scream!!

Juice. Go ahead and scream.

169 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:14:36pm

re: #162 Spare O’Lake

Oh sweet Lord, not an out-dated computer and smuggled cokes.
Those damn Israelis.

My macbook is 3 years old. Now that’s pretty outdated =P

/

170 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:14:40pm

re: #162 Spare O’Lake

Oh sweet Lord, not an out-dated computer and smuggled cokes.
Those damn Israelis.

Pentiums are contraband…

171 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:15:10pm

re: #148 lawhawk

Or they’re having trouble finding stringers who aren’t overtly members of Hamas? Or there really isn’t any news going on there and they’d focus on elsewhere… (which is the most likely answer - after all - why send someone to cover ordinary life events when they are by definition - ordinary).

I suspect they’re laying low for a while so they don’t get busted again so soon. In a month or so they’ll be back to running Islamist propaganda pics.

172 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:15:23pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I’ll have to wait for other neighbors to complain. I can’t say anything to them. They’re obsessed with me so I avoid them as much as possible. Everytime someone call the cops on them they think it’s me. Every time one of their pets die they tell their children that I killed it. About a year or two ago she came over screaming that she hired a lawyer and was going to sue me for stalking her. I have no idea what she was talking about. I think she has mental health issues or a drug problem..

You’re Sarah Palin’s new neighbor???? /

173 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:15:23pm

re: #159 JasonA

God, I remember hearing that making the rounds back when I was in grade school. Looking back on it I not so sure it was meant to be complimentary. I’m taking it back!

Probably not, but with sites like “Jewlicious” and Heb Magazine, it’s all the rage to diss yerself.

174 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:15:35pm

re: #155 JasonA

Pelé is going to come to each of your houses and give you a kick to the head…

Those tennis players sure can be mean SOBs!

175 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:15:39pm

re: #168 Mad Al-Jaffee

Juice. Go ahead and scream.

YYYAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!11111!!

176 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:15:50pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I’ll have to wait for other neighbors to complain. I can’t say anything to them. They’re obsessed with me so I avoid them as much as possible. Everytime someone call the cops on them they think it’s me. Every time one of their pets die they tell their children that I killed it. About a year or two ago she came over screaming that she hired a lawyer and was going to sue me for stalking her. I have no idea what she was talking about. I think she has mental health issues or a drug problem..

Or, both.

177 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:15:59pm

re: #172 Fozzie Bear

You’re Sarah Palin’s new neighbor??? /

Ha!

178 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:16:25pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I’ll have to wait for other neighbors to complain. I can’t say anything to them. They’re obsessed with me so I avoid them as much as possible. Everytime someone call the cops on them they think it’s me. Every time one of their pets die they tell their children that I killed it. About a year or two ago she came over screaming that she hired a lawyer and was going to sue me for stalking her. I have no idea what she was talking about. I think she has mental health issues or a drug problem..

Sounds like Israel and Gaza…sorry for your aggravation.

179 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:16:32pm

re: #176 MandyManners

Or, both.

Yeah, I suspect both.

180 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:16:37pm

re: #170 JasonA

And Core 2 duos are Zionist inventions (courtesy of Intel’s Israel branch).

181 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:16:43pm

P.S.

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet today in any of the threads. There was a terror attack in Israel today. Drive-by shooting by the the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah-militants)… 3 police officers were wounded, 1 killed. The terrorists got away through a road on which a checkpoint was just removed in recent weeks.

182 TedStriker  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:17:03pm

re: #170 JasonA

Pentiums are contraband…

It’s all about the Pentiums, baby…

Youtube Video

;-P

183 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:17:08pm

re: #173 marjoriemoon

Probably not, but with sites like “Jewlicious” and Heb Magazine, it’s all the rage to diss yerself.

Oh. I’d have to be Jewish to do that. I’ve been told I look Jewish; close enough? /

184 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:17:36pm

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I suspect both.

It’s a good idea to medicate a schizophrenic with crack.

185 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:17:51pm

re: #168 Mad Al-Jaffee

Juice. Go ahead and scream.

Lalalalala, fingers in my ears I can’t hear you, lalalalala!

186 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:17:56pm

re: #180 lawhawk

And Core 2 duos are Zionist inventions (courtesy of Intel’s Israel branch).

Eh. I buy AMD. :)

187 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:18:00pm

re: #181 Joo-LiZ

P.S.

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet today in any of the threads. There was a terror attack in Israel today. Drive-by shooting by the the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah-militants)… 3 police officers were wounded, 1 killed. The terrorists got away through a road on which a checkpoint was just removed in recent weeks.

Block it again.

188 Bagua  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:18:08pm

re: #181 Joo-LiZ

P.S.

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet today in any of the threads. There was a terror attack in Israel today. Drive-by shooting by the the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah-militants)… 3 police officers were wounded, 1 killed. The terrorists got away through a road on which a checkpoint was just removed in recent weeks.

Fatah again. The “good” terrorists.

189 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:18:14pm

re: #160 MandyManners

He’s just playing coy. Now’s the time to make surprise visits to his studio door and his driveway!

Hmm. Well it would give me an opportunity to suggest some interview candidates. I’ll see what I can do. :D

190 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:18:27pm

re: #167 MandyManners

Read Marjorie’s No. 143.

I did. His corrupt butt is against the wall & he is hoping doing the right thing now will save him… here in NY we know who he really is.

191 albusteve  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:18:51pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I’ll have to wait for other neighbors to complain. I can’t say anything to them. They’re obsessed with me so I avoid them as much as possible. Everytime someone call the cops on them they think it’s me. Every time one of their pets die they tell their children that I killed it. About a year or two ago she came over screaming that she hired a lawyer and was going to sue me for stalking her. I have no idea what she was talking about. I think she has mental health issues or a drug problem..

you need one of these…
Image: handguns-357-752415.jpg

192 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:19:20pm

re: #181 Joo-LiZ

P.S.

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet today in any of the threads. There was a terror attack in Israel today. Drive-by shooting by the the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah-militants)… 3 police officers were wounded, 1 killed. The terrorists got away through a road on which a checkpoint was just removed in recent weeks.

Sad, so sad. *Snif, snif.* Such a waste of life.

193 cliffster  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:19:53pm

Convert your old-school typewriter to USB Bring back the clickety-clack. How cool is that?

194 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:20:13pm

re: #167 MandyManners

Read Marjorie’s No. 143.

The man was not on the up and up. He had some ethics violation issues and resigned recently if I recall. Fundraising issues? Didn’t pay taxes? Used corporate money for personal luxuries? Probably not the kind of guy you want to brag about supporting Israel!

195 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:20:32pm

re: #191 albusteve

you need one of these…
Image: handguns-357-752415.jpg

Image: 101761d1226968773-44-magnum-biggun.jpg

196 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:20:56pm

re: #183 JasonA

I have a large nose and curly hair. I’ve been asked more times than I can count if i’m Jewish. While I am not, I still find the question vaguely offensive, because it bears subtle implications that I am not comfortable with. (That one could identify Jews on sight as some kind of distinct “race”)

I usually follow with a question: “Are you a Christian?”. When the question is answered in the affirmative, I say “funny, you don’t look Christian”.

197 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:22:05pm

re: #181 Joo-LiZ

P.S.

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet today in any of the threads. There was a terror attack in Israel today. Drive-by shooting by the the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah-militants)… 3 police officers were wounded, 1 killed. The terrorists got away through a road on which a checkpoint was just removed in recent weeks.

LIFT THE BLOCKADE AND ALL WILL BE WELL!

198 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:22:12pm

re: #196 Fozzie Bear

I have a large nose and curly hair. I’ve been asked more times than I can count if i’m Jewish. While I am not, I still find the question vaguely offensive, because it bears subtle implications that I am not comfortable with. (That one could identify Jews on sight as some kind of distinct “race”)

I usually follow with a question: “Are you a Christian?”. When the question is answered in the affirmative, I say “funny, you don’t look Christian”.

How can anyone look at you and claim you are Jewish… no respectable Jew would wear that funny little hat you have on.

199 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:22:19pm

re: #181 Joo-LiZ

P.S.

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet today in any of the threads. There was a terror attack in Israel today. Drive-by shooting by the the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah-militants)… 3 police officers were wounded, 1 killed. The terrorists got away through a road on which a checkpoint was just removed in recent weeks.

There is this to say:
The last few terror attacks have focused on police/IDF (non-combat) people. That is a very, very tiny moral step up when compared to the attacks on civilians.

Not that that in any way makes it right; all that means is crazy anti-Israelis will feel that much more justified in defending it =(

200 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:22:43pm

Wow. Good thing I didn’t sell my short position. :D

201 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:22:45pm

re: #195 Gus 802

Image: 101761d1226968773-44-magnum-biggun.jpg

I bet he has a small… shoe size.

202 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:22:46pm

re: #194 marjoriemoon

The man was not on the up and up. He had some ethics violation issues and resigned recently if I recall. Fundraising issues? Didn’t pay taxes? Used corporate money for personal luxuries? Probably not the kind of guy you want to brag about supporting Israel!

I think he didn’t reveal income.

203 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:23:07pm

re: #198 Walter L. Newton

How can anyone look at you and claim you are Jewish… no respectable Jew would wear that funny little hat you have on.

I like to think of it as a yarmulke with a brim.

204 albusteve  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:23:27pm

re: #195 Gus 802

Image: 101761d1226968773-44-magnum-biggun.jpg

or a battery of these….don’t be a wus
Image: 2816.jpg

get the job done

205 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:23:34pm

re: #196 Fozzie Bear

I have a large nose and curly hair. I’ve been asked more times than I can count if i’m Jewish. While I am not, I still find the question vaguely offensive, because it bears subtle implications that I am not comfortable with. (That one could identify Jews on sight as some kind of distinct “race”)

I usually follow with a question: “Are you a Christian?”. When the question is answered in the affirmative, I say “funny, you don’t look Christian”.

I had an employee once (a fine example of public education in the Bronx) who thought that Jewish was a nationality & that all Jews came from Israel…

206 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:23:46pm

re: #195 Gus 802

Image: 101761d1226968773-44-magnum-biggun.jpg

I’ll refrain from speculating about the size of his penis.

207 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:24:03pm

re: #201 JasonA

I bet he has a small… shoe size.

you go tell him…

208 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:24:04pm

re: #188 Bagua

Fatah again. The “good” terrorists.

TAKE DOWN THE EVIL SECURITY WALL WHILE YOU’RE AT IT, YOU CRAZY ISRAELIS!

209 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:24:18pm

re: #197 Spare O’Lake

LIFT THE BLOCKADE AND ALL WILL BE WELL!

Not everyone in Gaza is a terrorist. If the blockade was lifted, not everyone driving around, in and out of Israel, would be blowing up something.

210 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:24:48pm

re: #199 Joo-LiZ

There is this to say:
The last few terror attacks have focused on police/IDF (non-combat) people. That is a very, very tiny moral step up when compared to the attacks on civilians.

Not that that in any way makes it right; all that means is crazy anti-Israelis will feel that much more justified in defending it =(

Maybe it’s different over there but, I don’t equate cops with soldiers.

211 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:25:00pm

re: #183 JasonA

Oh. I’d have to be Jewish to do that. I’ve been told I look Jewish; close enough? /

Jewish, Italian, Greek, Hispanic, it’s all the same.

212 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:25:10pm

re: #201 JasonA

I bet he has a small… shoe size.

Beat me to it.

213 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:25:13pm

re: #203 Fozzie Bear

I like to think of it as a yarmulke with a brim.

Ralph the Dog die yesterday.

214 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:25:40pm

re: #181 Joo-LiZ

P.S.

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet today in any of the threads. There was a terror attack in Israel today. Drive-by shooting by the the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah-militants)… 3 police officers were wounded, 1 killed. The terrorists got away through a road on which a checkpoint was just removed in recent weeks.

One Israeli Policeman Shot Dead, Three Wounded in Shooting Incident in Judea and Samaria
14 June 2010 , 10:07

One Israeli policeman was shot dead and three were wounded in a shooting attack in the Judea and Samaria region. One is in moderate condition, and two are in stable condition.

Four Israeli Policemen were shot by terrorists at the Al Fawar Junction south of Hebron on route 60. The wounded personnel were immediately evacuated to a hospital nearby. One officer was killed by the injuries he sustained. One is in moderate condition and two are in stable condition.

IDF security forces searched the area; however, it is not yet clear whether the shooting was carried out from a passing vehicle or a premeditatedly planted car.

Last Friday (June 11), two Border Police soldiers were lightly injured after a terror operative attempted to run them over with a car in Wadi Al- Joz in Jerusalem. While the terrorist tried to flee the scene, the Border Patrol forces opened fire.

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:25:46pm

re: #119 Bagua


How can a tiny country the size of New Jersey with a Jewish population about half the population of New York City survive against an endless Jihad on all fronts, military media, and political?

Ein breirah.

216 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:25:59pm

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

Not everyone in Gaza is a terrorist. If the blockade was lifted, not everyone driving around, in and out of Israel, would be blowing up something.

All it takes is one.

217 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:26:03pm

re: #210 MandyManners

Maybe it’s different over there but, I don’t equate cops with soldiers.

Agreed, but there will be equivalence drawn between this and the Israeli bombing of Hamas “police”

218 darthstar  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:26:05pm

re: #195 Gus 802

Image: 101761d1226968773-44-magnum-biggun.jpg

Ironically enough, that pea shooter isn’t on the Israeli list of banned items for Gaza.///

219 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:26:21pm

re: #123 MandyManners

I’ve seen more satellite dishes in rural Appalachia than I’ve seen anywhere else in the U.S..

I imagine getting a signal without one is pretty difficult in the mountains.

220 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:26:57pm

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

Not everyone in Gaza is a terrorist. If the blockade was lifted, not everyone driving around, in and out of Israel, would be blowing up something.

All it takes is one or two.

221 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:27:03pm

re: #196 Fozzie Bear

I have a large nose and curly hair. I’ve been asked more times than I can count if i’m Jewish. While I am not, I still find the question vaguely offensive, because it bears subtle implications that I am not comfortable with. (That one could identify Jews on sight as some kind of distinct “race”)

I usually follow with a question: “Are you a Christian?”. When the question is answered in the affirmative, I say “funny, you don’t look Christian”.

I’ve been accused of not being proud of my “heritage” because I don’t speak Spanish. I have dark brown eyes, light skin and dark red/brown hair so some people think I’m Hispanic. I looked at the lady who had been lecturing me for not being a proud Hispanic and said the last time I looked people of German and Irish decent don’t speak Spanish. I’ve never seen anyone turn pale so quickly, and her boss had a “I want to speak to you in the back” look on his face. She wasn’t working there the next time I went into the store.

222 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:27:30pm

re: #217 Joo-LiZ

Agreed, but there will be equivalence drawn between this and the Israeli bombing of Hamas “police”

Do the Hamas “cops” oh wait. I just answered my own question. Of course Hamas “cops” are terrorists.

223 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:27:34pm

re: #213 Walter L. Newton

Ralph the Dog die yesterday.

Correction … Rowlf

224 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:27:49pm

re: #219 SanFranciscoZionist

I imagine getting a signal without one is pretty difficult in the mountains.

And, laying cable is expensive.

225 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:27:59pm

re: #217 Joo-LiZ

Agreed, but there will be equivalence drawn between this and the Israeli bombing of Hamas “police”

which should be happening any minuet now…

226 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:28:18pm

re: #220 Alouette

All it takes is one or two.

Minor details.

227 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:28:26pm

re: #205 brookly red

I had an employee once (a fine example of public education in the Bronx) who thought that Jewish was a nationality & that all Jews came from Israel…

My high school current events teacher thought “Israel” was exclusively the name of the ancient country, while the modern country was called “Israeli.”
She also thought that Japan was in the “south pacific” and New Zealand was part of Canada.
I think she was zonked on valium or something. She used to show films 2 out of three days and go to sleep at her desk.

228 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:28:35pm

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

Not everyone in Gaza is a terrorist. If the blockade was lifted, not everyone driving around, in and out of Israel, would be blowing up something.

Thanks, it does help to see the silver lining in the fucking F5 that would be unleashed.

229 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:29:07pm

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel

My high school current events teacher thought “Israel” was exclusively the name of the ancient country, while the modern country was called “Israeli.”
She also thought that Japan was in the “south pacific” and New Zealand was part of Canada.
I think she was zonked on valium or something. She used to show films 2 out of three days and go to sleep at her desk.

Damn.

230 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:29:29pm

re: #222 MandyManners

Do the Hamas “cops” oh wait. I just answered my own question. Of course Hamas “cops” are terrorists.

The police are a blurry line. Some were likely innocent and just looking for a job. But they were also a thin cover as a para-military line.

They aren’t all purely “civilians” as Goldstone would have us think… but nor are they (all) the really evil bastards we’ve come to think of as Hamas.

231 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:29:52pm

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel

My high school current events teacher thought “Israel” was exclusively the name of the ancient country, while the modern country was called “Israeli.”
She also thought that Japan was in the “south pacific” and New Zealand was part of Canada.
I think she was zonked on valium or something. She used to show films 2 out of three days and go to sleep at her desk.

tenure is what tenure does…

232 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:29:57pm

re: #216 MandyManners

All it takes is one.

re: #220 Alouette

All it takes is one or two.

It does take more than one or two to justify the blockade. Hamas probably only needed a few hundred rockets instead of thousands, though…

233 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:30:21pm

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel

My high school current events teacher thought “Israel” was exclusively the name of the ancient country, while the modern country was called “Israeli.”
She also thought that Japan was in the “south pacific” and New Zealand was part of Canada.
I think she was zonked on valium or something. She used to show films 2 out of three days and go to sleep at her desk.

Teacher? Ouch.

I hate when clueless people ask “do you speak ‘Israelian’”

234 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:30:37pm

re: #233 Joo-LiZ

Teacher? Ouch.

I hate when clueless people ask “do you speak ‘Israelian’”

hate is harsh — i’m amused/annoyed.

235 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:30:51pm

re: #219 SanFranciscoZionist

I imagine getting a signal without one is pretty difficult in the mountains.

There is almost no getting off air TV signals up here… we have DISH… and we have to have DSL, since currently it’s not an affordable business model for Comcast or someone to lay cable up here.

If you sit on the east side of a mountain, with a big enough antenna, you can get something… it may be better now with the digital over the air signal, but in general… it’s a dish or nothing much else.

236 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:31:04pm

re: #233 Joo-LiZ

Teacher? Ouch.

I hate when clueless people ask “do you speak ‘Israelian’”

My favorite is “do you speak Mexican”?

237 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:31:27pm

re: #228 Spare O’Lake

Thanks, it does help to see the silver lining in the fucking F5 that would be unleashed.

I’m just trying to help… it’s the progressive thing to do.

238 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:31:37pm

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel


She also thought that Japan was in the “south pacific” and New Zealand was part of Canada.

When did New Zealand break off from Canada?

/

239 Donna Ballard  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:31:54pm

Ya know, its so pretty outside I think I’m gonna get my swimsuit on and jump in the pool. Later Lizards, Keep Laughing!

240 avanti  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:31:54pm

I thought the right held the constitution in high regard:

“The author of Arizona’s controversial new immigration law is considering a new proposal that would block the children of illegal immigrants from becoming citizens if they were born in the United States.

Critics of the bill that Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce is weighing say it would fly in the face of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which grants citizenship to anyone born in the country.”

Read more: [Link: www.politico.com…]


link.

241 brookly red  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:32:38pm

re: #238 JasonA

When did New Zealand break off from Canada?

/

duh? when the wall came down in Berlin…

242 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:33:06pm

re: #238 JasonA

When did New Zealand break off from Canada?

/

Hey, if Jay Leno showed some people a map of New Zealand in his “On the Street” segment I bet most people would say, “that’s Italy”!

243 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:34:06pm

re: #242 Gus 802

Hey, if Jay Leno showed some people a map of New Zealand in his “On the Street” segment I bet most people would say, “that’s Italy”!

Eh. I was no big fan of Leno before. Now? Feh.

244 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:34:06pm

re: #236 Gus 802

My favorite is “do you speak Mexican”?

Mexicans do have a version of Spanish.

245 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:34:35pm

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

Not everyone in Gaza is a terrorist. If the blockade was lifted, not everyone driving around, in and out of Israel, would be blowing up something.

Mustafa the Sane Cab Driver just wants to get some coriander before the Hamas crazies start blowing shit up again and the blockade comes back. He’s driving like a madman toward Sderot, with cilantro on his mind.

246 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:34:59pm

re: #224 MandyManners

And, laying cable is expensive.

in bed

247 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:35:16pm

re: #211 marjoriemoon

Jewish, Italian, Greek, Hispanic, it’s all the same.

Armenian, too.

We are the Olive People.

248 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:35:37pm

re: #244 Boogberg

Mexicans do have a version of Spanish.

Dialect apply throughout Spanish speaking countries including within the USA. However, it’s not Mexican. Same applies to Austria where they speak German and not Austrian. ;)

249 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:36:21pm

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel

Did she ever teach you about the country called Hawaii?

250 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:37:08pm

re: #221 Dragon_Lady

I’ve been accused of not being proud of my “heritage” because I don’t speak Spanish. I have dark brown eyes, light skin and dark red/brown hair so some people think I’m Hispanic. I looked at the lady who had been lecturing me for not being a proud Hispanic and said the last time I looked people of German and Irish decent don’t speak Spanish. I’ve never seen anyone turn pale so quickly, and her boss had a “I want to speak to you in the back” look on his face. She wasn’t working there the next time I went into the store.

I’ve gotten that. I also just get little old ladies launching into extended conversation in Spanish because they assume I’ll understand.

251 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:37:47pm

re: #233 Joo-LiZ

Teacher? Ouch.

I hate when clueless people ask “do you speak ‘Israelian’”

Especially because the proper thing to ask is “Do you speak Jewish?”

252 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:37:51pm

re: #248 Gus 802

Dialect apply throughout Spanish speaking countries including within the USA. However, it’s not Mexican. Same applies to Austria where they speak German and not Austrian. ;)

Alright. Spanish with a Mexican dialect then. :D

253 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:37:54pm

re: #233 Joo-LiZ

Teacher? Ouch.

I hate when clueless people ask “do you speak ‘Israelian’”

You can’t be serious….

I’m forever being approached by Spanish speaking folks. I smile politely and say “I don’t speak Spanish.” Or “No hablo espanol.” And then they usually laugh and I say, “Em… muy poquito, pero mi espanol is muy malo.” And I think they think I’m lying, but that is really about all I can say! That’s not something I’m proud of. I’m been here too long not to speak it.

Anyway, I’m usually asked for directions and it’s amazing how you don’t HAVE to speak the same language for that. Grunting, pointing and knowing my numbers, works pretty well.

254 Joo-LiZ  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:38:08pm

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

Not everyone in Gaza is a terrorist. If the blockade was lifted, not everyone driving around, in and out of Israel, would be blowing up something.

Absolutely. But as Charles Krauthammer noted recently; if every other option for defense is taken out of Israel’s hands (Forward Defense (a.k.a. “occupation”) and Active Defense (a.k.a. targeted arrests and assassinations)) then the only thing left is a Passive Defense (a.k.a. siege & blockade). The rest of Gaza gets the brunt of it.

Just like in every other war in history. If your government gets your country into a war, the population suffers the consequences.

255 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:38:41pm

re: #238 JasonA

When did New Zealand break off from Canada?

/

Early middle Jurassic, with the first stage of the break up and rifting of Pangaea.

256 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:38:57pm

re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist

Mustafa the Sane Cab Driver just wants to get some coriander before the Hamas crazies start blowing shit up again and the blockade comes back. He’s driving like a madman toward Sderot, with cilantro on his mind.

rofl stop! Yer killing me!

257 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:39:22pm

re: #236 Gus 802

My favorite is “do you speak Mexican”?

Or, as Joe Bob Briggs would say, “Mescin.”

258 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:39:27pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ve gotten that. I also just get little old ladies launching into extended conversation in Spanish because they assume I’ll understand.

My wife gets that ALL the time. She’s Puerto Rican by descent, but a few generations removed, and speaks only what Spanish she picked up in high school.

Get a little brown in the skin and it’s amazing how much people will assume.

259 KDS1  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:40:08pm

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

Not everyone in Gaza is a terrorist. If the blockade was lifted, not everyone driving around, in and out of Israel, would be blowing up something.

It only takes one for a mass murder…

260 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:40:28pm

re: #251 Mad Al-Jaffee

Especially because the proper thing to ask is “Do you speak Jewish?”

I tend to say that… I shouldn’t say that really, but I do.

261 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:41:06pm

re: #244 Boogberg

Mexicans do have a version of Spanish.

I don’t speak Spanish, but the specific Spanish that I don’t speak is Mexican/Californian Spanish.

When I was living in England, I kept getting approached on the street by Spanish tourists, who wanted help, and thought I looked like a possible Spanish speaker.

I can sort of give directions in Spanish—REAL Spanish—MEXICAN Spanish…but I couldn’t understand a damn thing they were saying half the time, and vice versa.

I loved Pan’s Labyrinth, but damn, those accents were distracting.

262 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:41:58pm

re: #251 Mad Al-Jaffee

Especially because the proper thing to ask is “Do you speak Jewish?”

Yo, a bissel.

263 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:43:10pm

re: #258 Fozzie Bear

If you want to piss off a Puerto Rican, call ‘em a Mexican. On second thought, don’t.

264 KDS1  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:43:50pm

re: #262 SanFranciscoZionist

Yo, a bissel.

Don’t make fun of a dying language…

265 Gus  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:44:37pm

re: #261 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t speak Spanish, but the specific Spanish that I don’t speak is Mexican/Californian Spanish.

When I was living in England, I kept getting approached on the street by Spanish tourists, who wanted help, and thought I looked like a possible Spanish speaker.

I can sort of give directions in Spanish—REAL Spanish—MEXICAN Spanish…but I couldn’t understand a damn thing they were saying half the time, and vice versa.

I loved Pan’s Labyrinth, but damn, those accents were distracting.

I find that I can understand Argentinians and Uruguayans better. For obvious reasons. Some parts of Spain as well. Otherwise it’s easy to get lost with the dialects. It’s like trying to understand someone using Cockney English. Slang use would be the other addition.

266 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:45:22pm

re: #258 Fozzie Bear

My wife gets that ALL the time. She’s Puerto Rican by descent, but a few generations removed, and speaks only what Spanish she picked up in high school.

Get a little brown in the skin and it’s amazing how much people will assume.

Some of it is context. If I’m in a largely Latino part of town, people figure everyone will speak Spanish, and I’m not obviously Anglo to the eye. I worked in the Mission for a couple of years, and then in Oakland, near International Boulevard. You’re on the street, you’re there, you look like you could be Mexican, people will just start talking.

Folks are polite when they realize you don’t speak Spanish, except for one guy who was trying to pick me up, who started a whole lecture on the importance of embracing my roots, and being able to teach Spanish to my kids.

267 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:45:28pm

re: #263 Boogberg

If you want to piss off a Puerto Rican, call ‘em a Mexican Dominican. On second thought, don’t. Really don’t.

268 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:46:11pm

re: #264 KDS1

Don’t make fun of a dying language…

Who’s making fun?

269 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:46:47pm

re: #263 Boogberg

If you want to piss off a Puerto Rican, call ‘em a Mexican. On second thought, don’t.

Insulting each others’ heritage in new and interesting ways is a contact sport between my wife and I. She regularly introduces me as her drunken Irish man friend, and I her as my cuban/mexican/whatever cleaning lady.

It sounds horrible, but it’s really a healthy dynamic. Love is grand, and very very strange.

270 KDS1  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:47:16pm

re: #268 SanFranciscoZionist

Who’s making fun?

Well, i thought it was funny. Stop that!

271 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:50:06pm

re: #269 Fozzie Bear

Insulting each others’ heritage in new and interesting ways is a contact sport between my wife and I. She regularly introduces me as her drunken Irish man friend, and I her as my cuban/mexican/whatever cleaning lady.

It sounds horrible, but it’s really a healthy dynamic. Love is grand, and very very strange.

Heh. Reminds me of when a Puerto Rican friend of mine invited me over and introduced me to his mother. “Another white boy?” she said. My posse’s multi-cultural.

272 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:50:33pm

re: #103 marjoriemoon
Btw, I’ve seen life on American Indian reservations where there is no gambling and the Arabs live like kings next to those people.

Quoted for truth.

William

273 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:54:01pm

re: #259 KDS1

It only takes one for a mass murder…

Agreed. That’s what makes terrorism so nasty: you sometimes can’t figure out who the bad guys are till they move to attack you.

274 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:55:29pm

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. That’s what makes terrorism so nasty: you sometimes can’t figure out who the bad guys are till they move to attack you.

That’s always been the issue with guerrilla war in general. When the enemy doesn’t wear uniforms and is part of the general population, it’s nearly impossible to counter effectively.

275 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:56:12pm

re: #267 JasonA

Ack! You’re right. I forgot. :D

276 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 2:01:01pm

re: #272 wlewisiii

Btw, I’ve seen life on American Indian reservations where there is no gambling and the Arabs live like kings next to those people.

Quoted for truth.

William

Maybe we should ask the UN to send them some $$$.

277 Boogberg  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 2:01:50pm

re: #269 Fozzie Bear

Insulting each others’ heritage in new and interesting ways is a contact sport between my wife and I. She regularly introduces me as her drunken Irish man friend, and I her as my cuban/mexican/whatever cleaning lady.

It sounds horrible, but it’s really a healthy dynamic. Love is grand, and very very strange.

Holy crap that’s funny as hell. :D

Hats off to you guys. :)

278 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 2:09:36pm

re: #274 Fozzie Bear

That’s always been the issue with guerrilla war in general. When the enemy doesn’t wear uniforms and is part of the general population, it’s nearly impossible to counter effectively.

Still, we’ve found ways and so have the Israelis. That’s another lesson of the Iraq War: Insurgent forces can be beaten, given real local cooperation. When the Sunnis turned on Al Qaeda in Iraq and the surge went after their ratlines, the terrorists were defeated. Yes, they still set off bombs, but they are a broken force.

Note: I’m not speaking about whether we should have gone in to begin with, just that we did in fact defeat an insurgent force in Iraq.

279 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 2:09:56pm

re: #275 Boogberg

Ack! You’re right. I forgot. :D

Actually, you were probably better off not knowing that…

280 dsch_tw  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:35:10pm

They’re in such desperate need of aid that Hamas let all the Good Ship Marmara cargo rot in the sun in order to make political hay out of it.

281 RanchHand  Tue, Jun 15, 2010 2:38:36am

re: #79 Slumbering Behemoth

And that difference is huge. Walgreens sells some brand of soda that uses real sugar and glass bottles, don’t recall the name though. Not really a big soda drinker myself.

This guy sells 500 different soda in his California store.

Vimeo
282 hellosnackbar  Tue, Jun 15, 2010 11:29:24am

I first read of the boarding of the mavi maramu in the IHT;and couldn’t believe what I was reading.
Two days later in the Sunday Times(Britain) i read another account totally at odds with the first.
Then I read about the fauxtography here at LGF.
(I’ve never read this aspect anywhere else;that’s ridiculous!)
Finally I saw this at http:backspin.typepad.com/backspin2010/06/german-tv-exposes-fascists-and-islamists-mave-maramuhtml?utm_source=feedburner.
Seems like in order to know what’s going on first visit LGF;and then German tv.

283 Jerusalemyte  Wed, Jun 16, 2010 10:13:54pm

Hello!!! Did anyone read the original article? A photographer with no knowledge / background posts an in-depth introspection. One picture. No news. The NYT isn’t going to get out of debt with this kind of story.


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