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1 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 5:16:42pm

Stewart has some great writers. To do his stuff day and day out speaks volumes.

2 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 5:40:43pm

My favorite cards for any occasion:

Image: 72AB2615.jpg

3 austin_blue  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 5:45:04pm

"Straight out of the Saul Alinsky playbook!"

That's comedy.

Charles, thanks for putting up the Jarrett piece. The man is pure genius. My favorite jazz pianist for thirty five years.

4 thatthatisis  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:05:37pm

It is truly shocking . . . . . . . that I haven't heard anyone complaining about Obama apologizing for America yet.

5 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:13:52pm

re: #4 thatthatisis

It is truly shocking . . . that I haven't heard anyone complaining about Obama apologizing for America yet.

They're too busy to notice.

This whole thing is so disgraceful. A Horror.

6 jaunte  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:22:06pm

re: #4 thatthatisis

It is truly shocking . . . that I haven't heard anyone complaining about Obama apologizing for America yet.

It would be a really stupid position for a politician to take... so we'll have to wait and see. Some comments at the LATimes are already establishing a disgusting pattern for the potential objections:

"Don't appologize for me. I have no inherited collective guilt on this one. I wasn't alive then and ever were I it wasn't me but the Democratic politicians in Washington who did this. If the Democrats feel collective inherited guilt then Hillary and Nancy and Obama can apologize for themselves. Leave the rest of us out of it.
vancouverbob

Is this a continuation of the Obama Appology World Tour where he apologizes to the world for America. Maybe we should give $1M to each Guatamalan or allow them to be instant US Citizens. OK. Apology made, likely not accepted without cash, but end of story. I think Hillary should aplogize to the US people for her idiot husband.
uncle_vito

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

7 Max  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:24:35pm

Robert Spencer is pushing another outrage outrage. This time he thinks that the Islamic Society of North America is pushing Campbell's to go halal.

8 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:24:35pm

re: #6 jaunte

It would be a really stupid position for a politician to take... so we'll have to wait and see. Some comments at the LATimes are already establishing a disgusting pattern for the potential objections:

SICK keyboard tappers. Just SICK.

9 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:28:58pm

I suppose there really are human beings out there that would do this.

I just can't believe* the US government employed them and set them up to do this.

*As in, I am sickened and disgusted, not as in I think it's not true

10 freetoken  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:35:15pm

re: #6 jaunte

We could always pull out the video clips of the right-wing pols saying over and over that the US has nothing for which to apologize.

11 Max  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:38:07pm

Where is everybody tonight?

12 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:38:43pm

re: #9 Emmmieg

I suppose there really are human beings out there that would do this.

I just can't believe* the US government employed them and set them up to do this.

*As in, I am sickened and disgusted, not as in I think it's not true

We were doing the same thing, at the same time, down the road in Tuskegee.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

13 mikefromArlington  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:39:40pm

That Bachmann ad I'm getting to the right is rly freakin' me out.

I expect Carmina Burana to start blaring outta my pc speaker at any moment.

14 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:40:00pm

re: #5 Stanley Sea

They're too busy to notice.

This whole thing is so disgraceful. A Horror.

They're worrying about halal vegetables in their soup.

15 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:41:11pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

We were doing the same thing, at the same time, down the road in Tuskegee.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Almost. They had contracted the syphillis themselves, which we then failed to treat on purpose. We purposefully gave the Guatemalens the disease.

A medical professional purposefully injected syphilis into a human being.

16 jaunte  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:41:33pm

re: #13 mikefromArlington

That Bachmann ad I'm getting to the right is rly freakin' me out.

I expect Carmina Burana to start blaring outta my pc speaker at any moment.

Atmospherics:

17 freetoken  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:42:11pm

re: #11 Max D. Reinhardt

Well, I just got home from the gym, and am reading up on the latest idiocy from the idiot-o-sphere (e.g., the Telegraph is trying to do their best, for the millionth time, to obfuscate what is known about AGW.)

When the apology in question was issued a few days ago I sat around wondering how the American Exceptionalists were going to handle it. Most seem to want to avoid it, like many other facts about dark secrets in the American closet.

18 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:42:37pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

We were doing the same thing, at the same time, down the road in Tuskegee.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

See also Project MKULTRA.

19 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:42:52pm

re: #15 EmmmieG

Almost. They had contracted the syphillis themselves, which we then failed to treat on purpose. We purposefully gave the Guatemalens the disease.

A medical professional purposefully injected syphilis into a human being.

If you have a black bag full of penicillin, that's a fairly subtle difference.

20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:46:15pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

If you have a black bag full of penicillin, that's a fairly subtle difference.

I'm not arguing that it was horrible, I'm not arguing that withholding treatment was horrible.

I just consider it a full extra step into Dr. Mengele territory.

21 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:46:23pm

re: #6 jaunte

It would be a really stupid position for a politician to take... so we'll have to wait and see. Some comments at the LATimes are already establishing a disgusting pattern for the potential objections:

So let me see...vancouverbob feels that this was the fault strictly of Democrats (I suppose because it happened under the Truman administration), back before he was born, and that therefore he should not have to feel bad about it.

You know, I agree. I wasn't alive then either. I don't give a shit if the United States went around giving syphilis to some Guatemalans who were probably in the country illegally (no, wait, nevermind, keep going). I bear no guilt for any bad thing my country has ever done, and I gag when I see my president say he is sorry the bad things happened.

Of course, I wasn't alive a few years before that, either, when another Democratic administration liberated Paris, but what the hell, I'll take credit for that, scream "America! FUCK YEAH!" a lot, and remind Europeans that we saved their asses.

//

22 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:47:03pm

re: #18 researchok

See also Project MKULTRA.

And the subway aerosol despersal tests, and the LSD tests I was invited to join, and the Pentomic Army nuke tests, and... The love between citizen and government can be somewhat unrequited.

23 mikefromArlington  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:49:15pm

re: #16 jaunte

Atmospherics:

[Video]

Oh great. Thnx. :P

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:49:33pm

And speaking of breatharianism: * Greve also claims that the starving of the world would be just fine if they could only be “re-programmed”. They starve to death, she says, because the mass media has tricked them into thinking they need food.*

25 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:50:02pm

re: #22 Decatur Deb

And the subway aerosol despersal tests, and the LSD tests I was invited to join, and the Pentomic Army nuke tests, and... The love between citizen and government can be somewhat unrequited.

Ironically, we are among the least offensive offenders.

Hard to believe, but true.

26 jaunte  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:50:33pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

Of course, I wasn't alive a few years before that, either, when another Democratic administration liberated Paris, but what the hell, I'll take credit for that, scream "America! FUCK YEAH!" a lot, and remind Europeans that we saved their asses.


See, that's how you avoid becoming a self-hating loonie lefty.
/

27 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:50:44pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

And speaking of breatharianism: * Greve also claims that the starving of the world would be just fine if they could only be “re-programmed”. They starve to death, she says, because the mass media has tricked them into thinking they need food.*

Darn that mass media, convincing the cavemen they need to eat.

What were they thinking? We've thought we needed to eat ever since.

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:50:50pm

re: #25 researchok

Ironically, we are among the least offensive offenders.

Hard to believe, but true.

Not hard to believe. But we rightly expect much from ourselves and our country.

29 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:51:23pm

re: #25 researchok

Ironically, we are among the least offensive offenders.

Hard to believe, but true.

I was going to ask about your 'invitation', but thought better of it.

30 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:51:51pm

re: #22 Decatur Deb

And the subway aerosol despersal tests, and the LSD tests I was invited to join, and the Pentomic Army nuke tests, and... The love between citizen and government can be somewhat unrequited.

I was going to ask about your 'invitation', but thought better of it.

31 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:54:22pm

Why in God's name would people want to live without food, anyway?

32 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:54:43pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

And speaking of breatharianism: * Greve also claims that the starving of the world would be just fine if they could only be “re-programmed”. They starve to death, she says, because the mass media has tricked them into thinking they need food.*

Isn't that weird, we are chatting about "juice fasts" and I just got a SPAM email in Hebrew for "Tzom mitzim organi!"

33 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:55:51pm

re: #30 researchok

I was going to ask about your 'invitation', but thought better of it.

Dirt common thing in the 60's. Our unit was among those offered the chance to send true volunteers for cushy Temporary Duty stints at the Edgewood end of Aberdeen Proving Ground. Should have gone, I could have met Timothy Leary.

34 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:56:05pm

If you want scary- really scary- see this.

35 freetoken  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:57:06pm

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

Not hard to believe. But we rightly expect much from ourselves and our country.

Yeah, that is the point. We've been holding ourselves up for a couple of centuries now as the exemplar for other nations to copy. The spread of democracy and representative government versus monarchies and dictatorships, and such.

We need to judge ourselves.

36 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:57:12pm

I suppose it's all very easy to do--you simply have to classify some people as not people, or sub-people, then it's like animal testing.

Barf.

37 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:57:14pm

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Dirt common thing in the 60's. Our unit was among those offered the chance to send true volunteers for cushy Temporary Duty stints at the Edgewood end of Aberdeen Proving Ground. Should have gone, I could have met Timothy Leary.

LOL@Leary reference.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he was in on that.

38 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:57:58pm

re: #30 researchok

I was going to ask about your 'invitation', but thought better of it.

Found a non-controversial link.

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Even then, most of us decided to 'just say no'.

39 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:58:35pm

re: #35 freetoken

Yeah, that is the point. We've been holding ourselves up for a couple of centuries now as the exemplar for other nations to copy. The spread of democracy and representative government versus monarchies and dictatorships, and such.

We need to judge ourselves.

It's who we are. We set out to be the city on a hill, and damnit, I for one would like to see us keep trying.

40 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:58:56pm

re: #35 freetoken

Yeah, that is the point. We've been holding ourselves up for a couple of centuries now as the exemplar for other nations to copy. The spread of democracy and representative government versus monarchies and dictatorships, and such.

We need to judge ourselves.

True- up to a point. Unlike most other nations, we have a remarkable ability to self correct.

Whatever our sins, we are a long way from being in the same league as the other players.

41 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:00:01pm

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Dirt common thing in the 60's. Our unit was among those offered the chance to send true volunteers for cushy Temporary Duty stints at the Edgewood end of Aberdeen Proving Ground. Should have gone, I could have met Timothy Leary.

Remember the Stephen King book Firestarter? Started with the LSD testing. Excellent story.

42 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:07:57pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

So let me see...vancouverbob feels that this was the fault strictly of Democrats (I suppose because it happened under the Truman administration), back before he was born, and that therefore he should not have to feel bad about it.

You know, I agree. I wasn't alive then either. I don't give a shit if the United States went around giving syphilis to some Guatemalans who were probably in the country illegally (no, wait, nevermind, keep going). I bear no guilt for any bad thing my country has ever done, and I gag when I see my president say he is sorry the bad things happened.

Of course, I wasn't alive a few years before that, either, when another Democratic administration liberated Paris, but what the hell, I'll take credit for that, scream "America! FUCK YEAH!" a lot, and remind Europeans that we saved their asses.

//

Vancouverbob is from Vancouver, Washington, and really that's all I need to not be surprised by anything he writes, hahaha

43 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:09:49pm

re: #42 WindUpBird

Vancouverbob is from Vancouver, Washington, and really that's all I need to not be surprised by anything he writes, hahaha


Hey!

(Well, it's not like I know him, but my parents live there.)

44 jaunte  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:10:42pm

Attention R. Spencer! Kellogg's (UK) has Kosher and Halal certified cereals:
[Link: www.kelloggs.co.uk...]
Albion is lost!

45 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:11:51pm

re: #44 jaunte

Attention R. Spencer! Kellogg's (UK) has Kosher and Halal certified cereals:
[Link: www.kelloggs.co.uk...]
Albion is lost!


I'm confused. I thought that halal meant no pork and meat prepared a certain way.

I certainly am glad there's no pork fat in my bran flakes.

46 Linden Arden  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:13:18pm

I'm high on Vagisil!

(waiting for the season premier of South Park in 15 minutes)

47 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:16:02pm

Good evening Lizards! What a wonderful day I had today..Had lunch on Campus today with some great people...We were talking football today and I was given an official OU Coaches Football ball hat from some big wig on Campus ( Coaches have their own special hat.. Who knew) I love this place...
The girl behind the bar said do you know who that is? No..Bill Somebody from the staff..Can't remember his name..But I guess he is somebody everybody respects here...I have an official Coaches hat now...So everybody.. DROP AND GIVE ME 20!

48 jaunte  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:16:18pm

re: #45 EmmmieG

There are apparently a lot of gelatins, additives and enzymes used in processed foods that are derived from pig fat.

49 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:18:45pm

re: #37 researchok

LOL@Leary reference.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he was in on that.

He was a CIA contractor, through Sandoz, according to some French Intel.

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

More on-topic, he and Alpert did some psilocybin work on prisoners at Massachusetts Correctional.

[Link: www.druglibrary.org...]

Not one of my leftie heroes.

50 Political Atheist  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:19:09pm

re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist

It's who we are. We set out to be the city on a hill, and damnit, I for one would like to see us keep trying.

Thank you!

51 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:19:52pm

re: #48 jaunte

There are apparently a lot of gelatins, additives and enzymes used in processed foods that are derived from pig fat.

Ew.

52 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:21:49pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Correct first link: [Link: www.rense.com...]

I've been pasting one link behind lately.

53 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:24:00pm

re: #47 HoosierHoops

What fun!
*waves*

54 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:28:26pm

WORST
BEN AND JERRY'S FLAVOR
EVER

55 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:31:37pm

re: #47 HoosierHoops

Did you get him to sign your hat?
You'd have his name, if you did...

56 freetoken  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:32:21pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

"Gelatin" is a complete protein made out of collagen, from the cartilaginous portion of animals.


It is part of your own body, and is easily digestible. As such, it is a pretty good food.

57 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:32:22pm

re: #53 Floral Giraffe

What fun!
*waves*

Hi you beautiful..Starting at 6am in the morning we start building the GWAN network here..For the next 30 days I will be here on rare occasions after 12-16 hour days.. I'll miss you guys..But I'll still be here in Spirit.. It's one of those evolutions we do...
*waves*

58 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:33:27pm

re: #57 HoosierHoops

I'm NOT dropping to give you 20. BTW. You've got my number.
Cool on the hat!

59 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:34:19pm

Freakin' Yankees have scored two in the sixth, with two still on base...it's now a one run game.

60 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:35:59pm

re: #59 darthstar

Freakin' Yankees have scored two in the sixth, with two still on base...it's now a one run game.

And the Yankees take the lead...

61 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:36:06pm

*Dark background, somber music*

Excuse me?

I would just like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a lepidopterist.

I have been a wee bit of a numismatist, however, and I hope you can forgive me.

*This message paid for by EmmmieG for chocolate tester*

62 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:37:55pm

re: #61 EmmmieG

*Dark background, somber music*

Excuse me?

I would just like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a lepidopterist.

I have been a wee bit of a numismatist, however, and I hope you can forgive me.

*This message paid for by EmmmieG for chocolate tester*

I'm not a herpetologist, and I didn't catch herpetology from you.

63 jaunte  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:38:15pm

re: #56 freetoken

"Gelatin" is a complete protein made out of collagen, from the cartilaginous portion of animals.

It is part of your own body, and is easily digestible. As such, it is a pretty good food.

And, synchronized swimmers use it to hold their hair in place.

64 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:38:18pm

I would just like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a deep cover transvestite spy serving behind German lines to smuggle stranded pilots out of Nazi occupied territory.

65 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:38:45pm

re: #61 EmmmieG

LOL! Chocolate tester!
Used to work for a great lady, who HAD to be fed chocolate at 3PM.
It was important to your survival, that she had chocolate!

66 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:38:47pm

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would just like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a deep cover transvestite spy serving behind German lines to smuggle stranded pilots out of Nazi occupied territory.

That's not what it says about you on the bathroom wall.

67 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:38:58pm

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would just like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a deep cover transvestite spy serving behind German lines to smuggle stranded pilots out of Nazi occupied territory.


Working on a screen play?

68 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:39:00pm

re: #58 Floral Giraffe

I'm NOT dropping to give you 20. BTW. You've got my number.
Cool on the hat!

You are as cool as the other side of the pillow.. I'll call you Sunday afternoon when I get off work....or late Saturday night..Be well Floral

69 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:39:36pm

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would just like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a deep cover transvestite spy serving behind German lines to smuggle stranded pilots out of Nazi occupied territory.

Liar liar, pants on fire!
// I think...

70 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:40:18pm

Also, while I wouldn't want to gossip, I have it on good authority that Walter has more than dabbled in numismatics.

71 jaunte  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:40:18pm

re: #69 Floral Giraffe

Truth is, his cover wasn't that deep.

72 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:41:06pm

re: #70 EmmmieG

Also, while I wouldn't want to gossip, I have it on good authority that Walter has more than dabbled in numismatics.

He's a dabbler...he dabbles.

73 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:41:26pm

re: #66 darthstar

That's not what it says about you on the bathroom wall.

One stage show with Liza Minelli and Joel Grey and you're labelled for life, sheesh.

74 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:42:09pm

re: #47 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards! What a wonderful day I had today..Had lunch on Campus today with some great people...We were talking football today and I was given an official OU Coaches Football ball hat from some big wig on Campus ( Coaches have their own special hat.. Who knew) I love this place...
The girl behind the bar said do you know who that is? No..Bill Somebody from the staff..Can't remember his name..But I guess he is somebody everybody respects here...I have an official Coaches hat now...So everybody.. DROP AND GIVE ME 20!

I am 1. jealous as hell and 2. so happy for you Hoops! This is your perfect place!

75 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:43:09pm

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

One stage show with Liza Minelli and Joel Grey and you're labelled for life, sheesh.

Mentioning Liza Minelli can be overlooked...but when you can pull Joel Grey out of your hat, then you're screwed.

76 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:44:37pm

re: #7 Max D. Reinhardt

Robert Spencer is pushing another outrage outrage. This time he thinks that the Islamic Society of North America is pushing Campbell's to go halal.

Robert Spencer = EPIC FAIL

77 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:45:18pm

re: #53 Floral Giraffe

What fun!
*waves*

[Looks up and wave back] ;)

78 Linden Arden  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:46:22pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

DF - you and I were arguing about something last night.

What was it?

79 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:46:39pm

re: #75 darthstar

Mentioning Liza Minelli can be overlooked...but when you can pull Joel Grey out of your hat, then you're screwed.

So you're telling me you didn't like Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins?

80 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:47:03pm

Wow...Lawrence O'Donnell just did a great apology to Michael Steele on his use of the word "master" in referring to the RNC and Steele. Actually...he's still apologizing.

81 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:47:56pm

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So you're telling me you didn't like Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins?

Loved that movie...still not sure what the fuck it was about. But it made for some easy entertainment on stoned afternoons...He was Remo? Or the Korean mentor?

82 Linden Arden  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:48:03pm

re: #80 darthstar

I want L-OD to interview C-OD!

83 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:48:38pm

re: #78 Linden Arden

DF - you and I were arguing about something last night.

What was it?

Clearly it was not important!
Move on!
*smooches both*

84 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:48:43pm

re: #81 darthstar

Loved that movie...still not sure what the fuck it was about. But it made for some easy entertainment on stoned afternoons...He was Remo? Or the Korean mentor?

Joel Grey was Chun, the old Korean guy.

85 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:48:57pm

re: #78 Linden Arden

DF - you and I were arguing about something last night.

What was it?

We were debating Alan Grayson vs. Daniel Webster in Florida.

86 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:49:13pm

re: #66 darthstar

That's not what it says about you on the bathroom wall.

And....the perfect segue to

[Link: notesfromthestall.com...]

You must look, they update often, and I just die reading this stuff. (always wish I was there)

87 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:49:54pm

re: #57 HoosierHoops

Is Winston going to be OK?

88 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:50:08pm

re: #84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Joel Grey was Chun, the old Korean guy.

Wow...he's a good actor. I thought that was actually a Korean actor.

89 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:50:58pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Asceered to go look...

90 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:51:13pm

And lets see if I can do this from memory

Remo was Fred Ward
Wilford Brimley played the team leader
Kate Mulgrew played the Army major
and
Patrick Kilpatrick played the main thug.

Someone check me.

91 Linden Arden  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:52:56pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

We were debating Alan Grayson vs. Daniel Webster in Florida.

Who won?

I was drinking.

92 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:53:37pm

Been up for 20 hrs. That dog and I are going to share a bottle of Nyquil. 'Nite, all.

93 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:53:51pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

And...the perfect segue to

[Link: notesfromthestall.com...]

You must look, they update often, and I just die reading this stuff. (always wish I was there)

I hope you are all lost in the notes from the stall!!!!!

94 freetoken  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:54:21pm

BTW, there was some rather doomer-ish economics news today. Especially about employment.

If this continues I fear that politics will become even more the playground of the outrageous. Attempts to cut budgets will not go down well.

Yet locally this past week the shopping center has been overflowing with automobiles. I don't know what people are doing - spending lots of money or just bargain hunting.

95 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:54:22pm

re: #89 Floral Giraffe

Asceered to go look...

Oh Tall One, it is HILARIOUS.

In the future, I hope to contribute.

96 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:54:24pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Heh...funny stuff

Image: tumblr_l8pjbl6Prv1qbgsn4.jpg

97 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:56:27pm

re: #87 Floral Giraffe

Is Winston going to be OK?

I hope so..We live 5 minutes from Campus so I come home and spoil him with treats at lunch..But you know Winston and heard him bark on the phone..
He barks at every shadow just to protect us..Silly dog...

98 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:57:44pm

re: #91 Linden Arden

Who won?

I was drinking.

You both won!
You're still friends!

99 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:58:48pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

Oh Tall One, it is HILARIOUS.

In the future, I hope to contribute.

Really?
Your ambition is to write in stalls?
Remind me to give you some names to use!
LOL!

100 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 7:59:58pm

re: #97 HoosierHoops

Smart dog.
Loves his Daddy!
Who comes home, just to feed him treats.
Well, and let him out....

101 palomino  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:00:33pm

We intentionally infected Guatemalans with syphillis? So we could fucking study them like lab rats? This makes the Tuskegee experiments look like charity.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the victims in both of these medical atrocities were African-Americans and foreign Hispanics.

102 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:00:56pm

re: #96 darthstar

Heh...funny stuff

Image: tumblr_l8pjbl6Prv1qbgsn4.jpg

So many good ones but this one, took a nice drunk genius

Image: tumblr_l7e0ukMd101qbgsn4.jpg

103 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:01:21pm

re: #101 palomino

We intentionally infected Guatemalans with syphillis? So we could fucking study them like lab rats? This makes the Tuskegee experiments look like charity.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the victims in both of these medical atrocities were African-Americans and foreign Hispanics.

No, it's not.

104 Stanghazi  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:01:40pm

re: #99 Floral Giraffe

Really?
Your ambition is to write in stalls?
Remind me to give you some names to use!
LOL!

No, just photograph the beautiful art that exists!

105 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:04:59pm

Hey, peeps, how's everybody doin'?

Whew. I've had a day.
Dog on steroids twice a day for allergies.
Cat on thyroid meds twice a day for overactive thyroid.
The Roi had MRI on his shoulder, will schedule surgery soon.
Daughter popped by, needing something, RIGHT NOW MOM! - expecting that I would drop what I was doing and take care of it. Which I did, of course.
Spent some time coordinating HS Reunion stuff. Everybody I know is technologically challenged, and needs step-by-step instructions to navigate paypal, fer cryin' out loud.
Now re-watching the LSU-TN game. Well, the Roi is, I'm just gonna rewatch the last few seconds.

106 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:06:01pm

Another lazy day on the bayou...

/

107 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:06:40pm

It's 10pm here..Time to hit the sack...Be well and play nice..And one thing I've noticed is sometimes when we disagree on subjects Lizards tend to talk past each other just to make a point.

108 Linden Arden  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:08:08pm

DF

I am pulling it hard for the fucking Twinkies against the Yanks tonight.

Can we agree on that?

lmao!

109 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:08:14pm

re: #107 HoosierHoops

It's 10pm here..Time to hit the sack...Be well and play nice..And one thing I've noticed is sometimes when we disagree on subjects Lizards tend to talk past each other just to make a point.

Sleep well, Hoops.

110 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:08:34pm

re: #108 Linden Arden

DF

I am pulling it hard for the fucking Twinkies against the Yanks tonight.

Can we agree on that?

lmao!

Twinkies?

111 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:09:10pm

re: #105 reine.de.tout

It's only the last few seconds that count!
Well, and the score!
*waves*

112 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:09:24pm

re: #107 HoosierHoops

Sleep tight!

113 Linden Arden  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:09:57pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

Twinkies?

Twinkies = Twins.

114 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:19:04pm
115 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:21:17pm

re: #113 Linden Arden

Twinkies = Twins.

No, we can't agree. The Twins knocked out the White Sox. I want the Yankees to thump 'em.

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:23:06pm

Evening Honcos. Does anyone know the update from Sattv4u2 about his mom?

117 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:25:39pm

re: #114 researchok

That's scary!

"# Shelf Life of 12 years.
# No refrigeration needed."

118 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:27:37pm

re: #117 Floral Giraffe

That's scary!

"# Shelf Life of 12 years.
# No refrigeration needed."

Ain't technology grand?

119 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:28:18pm

re: #116 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just searched his nic, no updates.

120 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:28:41pm

re: #114 researchok

Another reason to be happy!

A bacon "food product".
Whatever happened to just plain "food"?

121 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:29:36pm

re: #120 reine.de.tout

A bacon "food product".
Whatever happened to just plain "food"?

Gone with the Velveeta

122 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:29:56pm

re: #118 researchok

Ain't technology grand?

YOU gonna eat that?

123 Linden Arden  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:30:42pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

No, we can't agree. The Twins knocked out the White Sox. I want the Yankees to thump 'em.


Like the infant Hannibal swore eternal vigilance against Rome - I swear I will whack the Darkness!


Good luck, my friend.

124 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:30:43pm

re: #120 reine.de.tout

They paved paradise & put up a parking lot!

125 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:30:54pm

re: #122 Floral Giraffe

YOU gonna eat that?

Hell no!

But I'll bet there will soon be a donut with that as a glaze...

126 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:31:33pm

re: #123 Linden Arden

Like the infant Hannibal swore eternal vigilance against Rome - I swear I will whack the Darkness!

Good luck, my friend.

Sleep well.

127 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:32:46pm

re: #123 Linden Arden

Like the infant Hannibal swore eternal vigilance against Rome - I swear I will whack the Darkness!


Good luck, my friend.

Of course, look how that ended for Hannibal's side.

128 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:33:23pm

re: #124 Floral Giraffe

They paved paradise & put up a parking lot!

Sheesh.
That's about right.

aaaaand - LSU won! Again! Weird game, that was. Half the people I know had turned off their TV sets, and didn't get to see the real end.

129 researchok  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:34:31pm

re: #128 reine.de.tout

Sheesh.
That's about right.

aaand - LSU won! Again! Weird game, that was. Half the people I know had turned off their TV sets, and didn't get to see the real end.

If you really wanna get amped, watch synchronized swimming.
/

130 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:40:38pm

Get it while you can


Namaste, y'all
131 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:40:59pm
"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

OK Sure guy.

See you in November.


* * * *

Good night. Back tomorrow.

132 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:44:35pm

I actually have a reason to look forward to November now.

Dark Eldar.

133 sagehen  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:48:24pm

And yet everybody was shocked, shocked I tell you, that Reverend Wright could have believed anything so "ludicrous" as the U.S. Govt/AIDS conspiracy theory.

134 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:55:51pm

I'm getting a just-in-time debugging window. WTF is that?

135 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 8:59:13pm

Be well, Lizards.
Play nicely, or go for the throat!
As Killgore says, Namaste.

136 freetoken  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:07:50pm

Buchanan posted a (normal for him) racist-baiting essay on Monday.

What is even more ugly are the comments that his readers post, both on his own blog and also the nominally "Christian" Townhall.

No one here will be particularly surprised by the comments, but I can't help but wonder how readers of, say, Townhall can not see the ugly comments for exactly what they are.

This is an example of what we find at Buchanan's site:

Khawja
October 5th, 2010 at 6:55 PM

GOP or Democrats – no matter whether the majority of White folks or Christians support – are controlled by the Asiatic minority of Jews, or great majority of Zionist Christians – are mostly loyal to a foreign country, Israel. Therefore, the winner is always the Israel lobby groups.

The only way the Americans would get their country back – is to ban all pro-Israel lobby groups and let Americans vote for the law-makers who have American interest first.

Here is small window to see who and how the Americans are controlled by foreign agents. [...]

Now let's go over to Townhall readers' comments on the essay:


Herman Wrote: Oct 05, 2010 3:39 PM
This country is going to be a multi-cultural nightmare in the next few decades.

Where will white people be able to move? Europe, Australia, Canada etc? They are having the same problems we are.

Even if the ever shrinking white population on this earth finds a safe place to live non-whites will quickly follow.

White Hare Wrote: Oct 05, 2010 9:49 PM
I remember writing this same thing 10 years ago. I used to say:

In the future,when the last freedom loving americans are fleeing the ethnic barbarian hordes.At the Canadan border will they let us bring our constitution and founding documents in,OR will they make us burn them before we enter. There is no 2nd. amendment in Canada.

10 years ago i don't remember seeing any mexicans around here,now their everywhere.Gangs walking our streets at night ,wal-mart filled with anchor-babies,and here's the kicker,a trailer park built on the ship yard property for housing illegals .

My brother in-law, 27 years building houses , cannot find work.Our nephew ,10 years building houses cannot find work. The houses being built here are all being built by mexicans.Payed cash.

WHAT A COUNTRY

ROB from Louisiana

---

John Wrote: Oct 05, 2010 2:52 PM
Sorry, the fundamentals and underpinnings of our country were Northwestern Eurpoean people -- nobody else.

---

Joseph Wrote: 20 hours ago (3:02 AM)
And who is this common enemy ? Big tent in the democratic party ? The democrats placed the third Jew on the supreme court ! Now three out nine supreme court justices are Jewish . The corruption of the democratic party is so evident since Kagan is not a briliant judicial mind nor has she any judicail experience ! I guess some griups under this big democratic tent are much more equal than others !

And so forth and so on. The "enemy" seems to be being defined as Mexicans and Jews, along with (of course) Muslims.

These comments are from your fellow Americans. They have a vision for this nation, and it may not include you.

137 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:16:05pm

re: #136 freetoken

Hell, it doesn't include anyone who doesn't think exactly like them. It doesn't include anyone who posts here.

I hate internet Nazis.

138 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:16:12pm

re: #136 freetoken

That's completely dismaying & I hope it represents a very very small percentage of americans.

& I can't stand Buchanan.

Funny he has the same name as the very weak president just before the Civill War.

139 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:18:50pm

█▬█ell☻

140 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:20:08pm

re: #138 Ojoe

That's completely dismaying & I hope it represents a very very small percentage of americans.

& I can't stand Buchanan.

Funny he has the same name as the very weak president just before the Civil War.

Indeed. But I bet Pukecannon wouldn't be very brave if he actually had to fight to defend his racist. He's a classic coatholder: He'll scream for war as long as he doesn't have to fight.

141 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:20:35pm

re: #139 Gus 802

█▬█ell☻

?

142 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:21:08pm

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

?

Should look like "hello". No dice?

143 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:22:18pm

re: #142 Gus 802

Should look like "hello". No dice?

Now that you mention it.

144 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:23:18pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Now that you mention it.

Got the code from here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Comment number 3.

145 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:27:23pm

re: #139 Gus 802

█▬█ell☻

HE'S A SORCEROR!

146 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:32:03pm

re: #145 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HE'S A SORCEROR!

For my next trick I will predict the date of the end of the world!

It will be on August 4, 5317

Going to have to wait.

147 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:32:03pm

I've gotten 2 Norton intrusion attempt messages. Is it just me?

148 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:34:13pm

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've gotten 2 Norton intrusion attempt messages. Is it just me?

Nothing here.

149 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:34:40pm

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've gotten 2 Norton intrusion attempt messages. Is it just me?

I told you not to answer the Nigerians.

150 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:35:51pm

You ever notice how people that are always predicting the end of the world always mention year that are not too far off? You never anyone of those kooks saying "beware, the end of the world will come in the year 6669!"

151 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:37:26pm

re: #150 Gus 802

You ever notice how people that are always predicting the end of the world always mention year that are not too far off? You never anyone of those kooks saying "beware, the end of the world will come in the year 6669!"

It matters a lot less when you'll never meet anyone who will be alive to see it.

152 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:38:44pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

It matters a lot less when you'll never meet anyone who will be alive to see it.

Right. Obviously. Plus you can't make much money if you're prediction is that far off. Can't sell those survival kits and End-o-the-World condos.

153 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:39:13pm

re: #150 Gus 802

It will end next may 21.

So they think.

154 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:39:49pm

Why's the Antichrist always somebody famous? If I were Satan I'd make him the cable guy. No one would expect it.

//

155 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:39:57pm

Repent! Repent!

Your descendants who will probably not even know your name are going to be destroyed!

156 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:40:19pm

Back tomorrow!

157 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:40:46pm

re: #153 Ojoe

It will end next may 21.

So they think.

That's hilarious. Competing apocalypses! Forget 2012 it's coming in 2011!

158 wee fury  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:40:50pm

Poo. Twins lost to Yankees.
But, they will win tomorrow night.
End of baseball report.

159 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:42:46pm

re: #158 wee fury

Poo. Twins lost to Yankees.
But, they will win tomorrow night.
End of baseball report.

I hope the Yanks sweep them.

160 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:44:46pm

Oh that 2011 site is a trip: Gay Pride: Planned by God as a Sign of the End! Here I thought it was just another boring parade.

161 wee fury  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:47:56pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

I hope the Yanks sweep them.

We can agree to disagree.
Go Twins!

162 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:48:10pm

re: #160 Gus 802

Oh that 2011 site is a trip: Gay Pride: Planned by God as a Sign of the End! Here I thought it was just another boring parade.

Yet another episode of "Fundies Gone Wild". That show jumped the shark years ago. It's still got a following, but I'm trying to get it canceled.

163 wee fury  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:48:47pm

Toddling off to bed --

164 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:49:44pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Yet another episode of "Fundies Gone Wild". That show jumped the shark years ago. It's still got a following, but I'm trying to get it canceled.

Yeah. Looks like they even delve into numerology. You know. Outside of math, time, science, finances, and your checking account, numbers don't mean a thing.

165 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:52:48pm

re: #164 Gus 802

Yeah. Looks like they even delve into numerology. You know. Outside of math, time, science, finances, and your checking account, numbers don't mean a thing.

They make a big difference in war too. If the enemy has more men than you, you've got a problem. :)

166 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:57:38pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

They make a big difference in war too. If the enemy has more men than you, you've got a problem. :)

Of course then you have to employ tactics, exploit terrain and environment, superior training and equipment, etc

167 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:59:01pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

They make a big difference in war too. If the enemy has more men than you, you've got a problem. :)

Sir! First we must consult with the Battalion Numerologist!

168 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:59:11pm

re: #166 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Of course then you have to employ tactics, exploit terrain and environment, superior training and equipment, etc

Or wait for the Moscow winter to get them.

That's worked.

169 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:01:40pm

re: #168 EmmmieG

Or wait for the Moscow winter to get them.

That's worked.

That winter morning, all we heard was soldiers murmuring "this sucks" in German until noon.

/

170 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:04:23pm

re: #168 EmmmieG

Or wait for the Moscow winter to get them.

That's worked.

Unless you were in one of the formations thrown in front of the Germans to slow them down. Didn't work out too well for them. X(

171 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:07:05pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

Unless you were in one of the formations thrown in front of the Germans to slow them down. Didn't work out too well for them. X(

The peasants? We're supposed to notice them?

172 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:13:57pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

Unless you were in one of the formations thrown in front of the Germans to slow them down. Didn't work out too well for them. X(

Remember that scene in Band of Brothers when Webster start yelling at the retreating German troops on the Autobahn? Captain Nixon is in the scene kind of staring into space after learning of his divorce.

173 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:15:50pm

re: #172 Gus 802

Remember that scene in Band of Brothers when Webster start yelling at the retreating German troops on the Autobahn? Captain Nixon is in the scene kind of staring into space after learning of his divorce.

174 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:16:50pm

re: #172 Gus 802

Remember that scene in Band of Brothers when Webster start yelling at the retreating German troops on the Autobahn? Captain Nixon is in the scene kind of staring into space after learning of his divorce.

Yes, I remember.

"You have horses! What were you thinking?!"

Goodnight, all.

175 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:17:58pm

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I remember.

"You have horses! What were you thinking?!"

Goodnight, all.

Poor Webster. The real one I mean. Lost at sea at the age of 39 in 1961.

Have a good one.

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:21:22pm

I'm not sure why I was getting Norton warnings. Did a system restore. And now I'm getting other pop ups from microsoft. Will figure it out tomorrow. Nighty.

177 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:27:52pm

Good night all.

178 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:41:02pm

re: #153 Ojoe

It will end next may 21.

So they think.

Great. Right AFTER tax season.

Seriously, why couldn't they have picked November 21st??

179 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:09:43pm

re: #131 Ojoe

OK Sure guy.

See you in November.

* * * *

Good night. Back tomorrow.

this seems more important to you, this one phrase he said, than anything he's ever done

Why is that?

180 Usually refered to as anyways  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:13:21am

Evening All

For anyone who is got nothing better to do, waste 5 minutes looking at this.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

181 ihateronpaul  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:28:33am

The Greatest Country The World Has Ever Seen

182 Copernic  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:14:09am

Sometimes only satire can shed any light on the horrors people bring upon to each other. Perhaps that's why the Onion Gods and their prophets Wilde, Clemmons, and Juvenal bestowed that gift on man.

Anyway. Here's some stuff The Chicago Dope has done on the subject.

U.S. to Guatemala: ‘You should probably get yourself checked out’

183 ihateronpaul  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:09:02pm

seriously, lgf is the ONLY blog I read that has popup ads. and I just got one from publishers clearinghouse that almost crashed firefox. I know you want to do an ad-free subscription but I don't remember these popups until the subscription stuff started and honestly I think it's pretty bullshit to suddenly throw in bullshit like that to magically coincide with charging for no ads. whatever happened to a good user experience?? this alone makes me not want to pay for a subscription, because it's pretty fucking weak


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