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The speed of communications is wondrous to behold. It is also true that speed can multiply the distribution of information that we know to be untrue.
— Edward R. Murrow
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Usually refered to as anyways Fri, Dec 10, 2010 10:47:00pm |
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact.
Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
—Marcus Aurelius
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Dec 10, 2010 10:47:22pm |
Okay, this is pretty awesome. Also, why wasn’t I taught that in school?
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Usually refered to as anyways Fri, Dec 10, 2010 10:54:24pm |
re: #2 Slumbering Behemoth
Okay, this is pretty awesome. Also, why wasn’t I taught that in school?
Excellent video, thanks.
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Kragar Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:15:49pm |
Got a game tomorrow and can’t decide who I want to play yet.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:15:54pm |
re: #3 ozbloke
Amazing, what one can find on the interwebs. The simplicity of that method is mind blowing for a dude like me who was never really good at math.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:16:42pm |
re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
As or against?
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Kragar Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:18:57pm |
re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth
As or against?
Fighting Orks. Trying to decide if I want use Guard, Space Wolves or Nids, though I might break out the Night Lords for old times sake.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:20:31pm |
re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fighting Orks. Trying to decide if I want use Guard, Space Wolves or Nids, though I might break out the Night Lords for old times sake.
I have not a clue what you just said!
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Kragar Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:23:28pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:23:37pm |
re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
My knowledge of the 40K universe is completely summed up in the PC games, and only up to Soulstorm. Sorry, can’t advise.
/Wanna play Axis & Allies?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:25:51pm |
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Kragar Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:26:34pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:28:14pm |
re: #11 sattv4u2
heh ,, why don’t you kids go outside and play?
//
What?!? Outside?!? That’s where The Sun is! What are ya, crazy?
//
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Usually refered to as anyways Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:31:44pm |
re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth
Amazing, what one can find on the interwebs. The simplicity of that method is mind blowing for a dude like me who was never really good at math.
Found this recently, I thought it was interesting.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:38:04pm |
re: #14 ozbloke
A TEDTalk link? Curse you! Curse you and your damn typing fingers! I was planning to knock off here in a few minutes, but it looks like I’m gonna be sucked into the interwebs for another twenty minutes.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 11, 2010 12:42:50am |
It’s almost 3am and Winston and I have been watching movies all night…We are at the final scene of Hustle&flow and Skinny Black is going to get his ass kicked..I love this part.. Hit him again! LOL
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freetoken Sat, Dec 11, 2010 12:57:33am |
Well, they’re pulling an all-nighter down there in Cancun.
I think the one thing that will be taken away from this UNFCCC meeting is that that ALBA group (Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Cuba) have overplayed their hand. Many of the smaller nations are not happy with the ALBA group playing the “consensus” card, which means all parties (193 countries) must agree to a document/outcome in order to go forward. Bolivia in particular has been objecting to documents that others agree upon.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 11, 2010 2:46:55am |
I don’t remember ever seeing grown-ups behave less seriously, at least in an election season.
Chris Hitchens is the herald of the new shitty American dawn guys, read it and weep [Link: www.vanityfair.com…]
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freetoken Sat, Dec 11, 2010 3:06:36am |
They’re still going in Cancun. It’s basically over, and the President of the meeting basically told Bolivia thanks but no thanks, and accepted what is now being called the “Cancun Accord” (or something like that) as being accepted by the convention (with a note that Bolivia objects.)
The agreement coming out of Cancun essentially says that at next year’s meeting (in South Africa) a next generation of Kyoto Accord will be accepted. It’s a vague enough promise that it could still mean anything.
Right now the oil producers (Saudi, Qatar,etc.) are getting in a last word that CCS (carbon capturing - something that has yet to be shown to be feasible) ought to be noted.
These sort of multilateral negotiations really look bogged down. Even the best of intentions get lost in the mere size of the event. The adopted document doesn’t really accomplish much by way of mitigation of CO2, but it does capture the good will over the advancements in dealing with the deforestation effort and long-term financing.
I do not expect the US Senate to ever accept any international treaty along these lines. If the GOP is still balking a the Law of the Sea Treaty, and now also START, I find it hard to believe they’ll ever accept something that promises money to brown people foreign nations in the Southern Hemisphere.
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freetoken Sat, Dec 11, 2010 3:22:33am |
One thing I didn’t see in yesterday’s Pages was a mention of the hottest November and the hottest Meteorological year (Dec-Nov) on record, according to NASA GISS:
NASA: 2010 Meteorological Year Warmest Ever
The 2010 meteorological year, which ended on 30 November, was the warmest in NASA’s 130-year record, data posted by the agency today shows. Over the oceans as well as on land, the average global temperature for the 12-month period that began last December was 14.65˚C. That’s 0.65˚C warmer than the average global temperature between 1951 and 1980, a period scientists use as a basis for comparison.The 2010 meteorological year was slightly warmer than the previous warmest year, the 2005 calendar year, when the average temperature was 14.53˚C.
In 2010, temperatures measured over land alone were also the warmest ever, with instruments showing a December-November average of 14.85˚C. Combining this warming with above-average ocean temperatures led to the global average of 14.65˚C.
November brought frigid temperatures to certain areas of Europe. But the data, compiled by the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City, show that, globally, last month was the warmest November ever recorded, nearly 0.96˚C warmer than the 1951 to 1980 average for the month.
According to NASA climatologist and Goddard director James Hansen, the main driver for the increased warmth was the Arctic, where temperatures in Hudson Bay were “10˚C above normal” for November. That month, Hansen says, “sea ice was absent while normally that [body of water] is covered by sea ice.” Water devoid of ice absorbs much more solar radiation than water covered with ice, which reflects much of the radiation back toward space.
The record temperatures occurred despite a moderate occurrence of La Niña, a phenomenon over the Pacific Ocean that tends to lead to cooler temperatures at the surface, affecting the global mean.
GISS data site:
[Link: data.giss.nasa.gov…]
From the graph it looks like November was significantly above the previous record.
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laZardo Sat, Dec 11, 2010 4:15:47am |
Logging in from Airport Wireless. Flight’s been delayed an hour.
Earlier this afternoon I took a “rideabout” across Cebu City. Here the Jeepneys are actually based on several different sizes of regular passenger van (and Isuzu Canter for the biggest ones), depending on the route. Very few of the actual “jeepneys” of the homemade variety. The city also surprisingly has a route numbering system in place, though it needs a map to pair with.
Reminds me of a slightly rustic fusion of Baguio and parts of Manila, coupled with mostly cool and showery weather over the past few days. Been mostly out in the ‘suburbs’ touring furniture manufacturing facilities.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 5:41:28am |
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prairiefire Sat, Dec 11, 2010 5:53:55am |
I am up waaaayyyy to early for a SAturday. There is a pancake breakfast at school.
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prairiefire Sat, Dec 11, 2010 5:56:12am |
Openleaks breaking away from “slave driver” Assange:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
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researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:21:43am |
Assange Lawyer: US Spy Charges Appear Imminent
Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder already under arrest in London, could soon face U.S. espionage charges, his lawyer told ABC News.The charges would be related to the Espionage Act, Assange’s American lawyer, Jennifer Robinson, told ABC.
“Our position of course is that we don’t believe it applies to Mr. Assange and that in any event he’s entitled to First Amendment protection as publisher of WikiLeaks, and any prosecution under the Espionage Act would in my view be unconstitutional and puts at risk all media organizations in the U.S.,” Robinson told ABC News.
Robinson said a U.S. indictment of Assange was imminent. Assange’s latest troubles follow the publication of more than 250,000 secret diplomatic documents. He is being held without bail in London on allegations of sex crimes in Sweden.
ABC said Justice Department officials declined to comment.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:26:39am |
“Make sure your reporting system is reasonably clean before you automate. Otherwise your new computer will just speed up the mess.” Robert Townsend.
That’s what the interwebs have done, sped up the mess.
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Feline Fearless Leader Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:28:54am |
Good morning Lizards. Sub-freezing but precipitation free here in Philadelphia as I nurse a mild hangover from a company Christmas party. And drinking tea before embarking on a trip to finish out my Christmas present shopping.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:34:22am |
re: #31 oaktree
Good morning Lizards. Sub-freezing but precipitation free here in Philadelphia as I nurse a mild hangover from a company Christmas party. And drinking tea before embarking on a trip to finish out my Christmas present shopping.
Don’t get me another of those terrible sweaters this year!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:39:18am |
re: #29 researchok
any prosecution under the Espionage Act would in my view be unconstitutional
Hold the wedding, Skippy
Isn’t this the same battle thats being fought with the Gitmo (and other) terrorists? “Unconstitutional”? That applies to citizens, no? US citizens??
((and yes,, I know that there are protections for foreigners, but to play the “unconstitutional” right out of the chute is posturing, at best, to garner sympathy, imho)
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Feline Fearless Leader Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:40:49am |
re: #32 sattv4u2
Don’t get me another of those terrible sweaters this year!
I figure I’ll be able to find a store with a sale going on tin-foil hats and accessories… ;)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:44:30am |
Is Bernie Sanders still talking!?!?
(yes ,, I know he’s not ,, but that was great theatre yesterday ,,, 9+ hours and he didn’t even read from a phone book or dictionary!!)
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:45:37am |
On the way home this morning, driving in the rain, some big Waste Management garbage truck cut me off in traffic, forcing me into the oncoming lane.
Big Corporate Trash is trying to kill me! :(
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:50:41am |
re: #36 Taqyia2Me
On the way home this morning, driving in the rain, some big Waste Management garbage truck cut me off in traffic, forcing me into the oncoming lane.
Big Corporate Trash is trying to kill me! :(
They’ve been watching you
They know you’re not properly seperating your recyclables!
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Mich-again Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:57:59am |
It is also true that speed can multiply the distribution of information that we know to be untrue.
Reminds me a bit opf the Mark Twain quote .. “A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes.” And that was before the internet.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 6:58:11am |
OUCH !!!
Holy Schniekies!!
A month after the mangled body of a North Carolina teenager was found in a quiet Milton neighborhood, evidence indicates he stowed away in the wheel well of a plane and fell from the sky as the landing gear came down on the approach to Logan International Airport
[Link: www.boston.com…]
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:06:43am |
re: #39 sattv4u2
OUCH !!!
Holy Schniekies!!
A month after the mangled body of a North Carolina teenager was found in a quiet Milton neighborhood, evidence indicates he stowed away in the wheel well of a plane and fell from the sky as the landing gear came down on the approach to Logan International Airport
[Link: www.boston.com…]
It’s not all that uncommon. Most who try it die. He was probably dead already when his body fell between hypoxia and hypothermia.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:07:18am |
re: #39 sattv4u2
I was just reading that. How does a person get onto the tarmac un-detected like that?
Poor kid. Poor family.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:08:27am |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:10:23am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:10:29am |
re: #40 wlewisiii
It’s not all that uncommon. Most who try it die. He was probably dead already when his body fell between hypoxia and hypothermia.
The thing that amazes me the most? Smart enough to able to be figure out how to get onto the plane… yet too fucking stupid to know that it is not a survivable environment.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:10:48am |
re: #44 reine.de.tout
Shocked. Shocked I tells ya…
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:11:32am |
re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The new party of “No”?
As I said, sometimes “NO” is the right answer (not that I think it is in this case)
4 year old to Mom
“Mommy,, can I have a book of matches?”
NO!
12 year old to dad
“Daddy,, can I drive the car?” NO
Congress to the American people
“Can we spend a few more trillion?” NO
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:12:33am |
And on that note,
the long quiet drive home beckons
((oh , and btw ,, Quick Trips Breakfast Burritto ,,, not bad ,, not bad at all!!))
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McSpiff Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:12:56am |
re: #47 sattv4u2
As I said, sometimes “NO” is the right answer (not that I think it is in this case)
4 year old to Mom
“Mommy,, can I have a book of matches?”NO!
12 year old to dad
“Daddy,, can I drive the car?” NOCongress to the American people
“Can we spend a few more trillion?” NO
Apparently I need to have a talk with my father about what is and isn’t acceptable parenting…
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darthstar Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:21:53am |
re: #44 reine.de.tout
Suicide sucks. But I suspect there won’t be much sympathy for him. Still, suicide sucks.
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darthstar Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:24:32am |
re: #47 sattv4u2
As I said, sometimes “NO” is the right answer (not that I think it is in this case)
4 year old to Mom
“Mommy,, can I have a book of matches?”NO!
12 year old to dad
“Daddy,, can I drive the car?” NOCongress to the American people
“Can we spend a few more trillion?” NO
When I was 12, I was told it was okay to drive, so long as I didn’t drive on the highway…I only broke that rule once, when my older brother (who was 16) got too drunk at a drive-in movie in town and I had to get us home 15 miles away…but I was eleven then, so that doesn’t count.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:25:08am |
re: #50 darthstar
I don’t know if the accusations against the sone are true. But wasn’t he and his brother the ones who informed the police?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:25:27am |
re: #50 darthstar
Suicide sucks. But I suspect there won’t be much sympathy for him. Still, suicide sucks.
Well the sons apparently were not involved in, and claimed to be unaware of, the dad’s Ponzi scheme that their lifestyle was based on.
And his wife and kids surely were innocent of that, and the suicide will affect them very badly. Very sad.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:26:47am |
re: #52 Sergey Romanov
I don’t know if the accusations against the sone are true. But wasn’t he and his brother the ones who informed the police?
According to this story, yes, the sons informed the police.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:29:28am |
re: #54 reine.de.tout
Basically there are two options. They may have done it because they had a hand in his crimes and basically wanted to play it safe at some point, hoping that turning Madoff in would pay off. But I’ve seen no evidence of this and I don’t think they were accused of this. The other option is that it happened as they told, and then it must’ve been excruciatingly difficult for them to inform on their own father, despite the fact that it was the right thing. In such a case they deserve all sympathy, IMHO.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:30:22am |
re: #51 darthstar
When I was 12, I was told it was okay to drive, so long as I didn’t drive on the highway…I only broke that rule once, when my older brother (who was 16) got too drunk at a drive-in movie in town and I had to get us home 15 miles away…but I was eleven then, so that doesn’t count.
We used to take our daughter to a very large, very empty parking lot of an abandoned building nearby, and let her drive around and get a feel for it.
You can’t take a 16-year-old and put ‘em behind the wheel of a car for the FIRST TIME and expect them to do OK, and the student driving portion of driver’s ed is a joke, 6 hours maybe, not nearly enough time to get them accustomed to it.
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darthstar Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:30:32am |
re: #53 reine.de.tout
Well the sons apparently were not involved in, and claimed to be unaware of, the dad’s Ponzi scheme that their lifestyle was based on.
And his wife and kids surely were innocent of that, and the suicide will affect them very badly. Very sad.
When it became obvious to Bernie Madoff that his world was about to crumble around him, he told his sons to turn him in. Whether they knew everything or not is debatable, but turning in their father is probably the main thing that kept them from sharing a cell with him. It took a lot of money and high priced lawyers to avoid a trial and full investigation. Madoff’s confession was a swift move.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:31:38am |
re: #55 Sergey Romanov
Basically there are two options. They may have done it because they had a hand in his crimes and basically wanted to play it safe at some point, hoping that turning Madoff in would pay off. But I’ve seen no evidence of this and I don’t think they were accused of this. The other option is that it happened as they told, and then it must’ve been excruciatingly difficult for them to inform on their own father, despite the fact that it was the right thing. In such a case they deserve all sympathy, IMHO.
The brothers have apparently been sued by whoever it is trying to detangle these finances. Maybe he foresaw a day where he was going to have to accept a less lavish lifestyle and got thrown for a loop.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:32:26am |
re: #57 darthstar
When it became obvious to Bernie Madoff that his world was about to crumble around him, he told his sons to turn him in. Whether they knew everything or not is debatable, but turning in their father is probably the main thing that kept them from sharing a cell with him. It took a lot of money and high priced lawyers to avoid a trial and full investigation. Madoff’s confession was a swift move.
You sure about that?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:32:41am |
re: #57 darthstar
When it became obvious to Bernie Madoff that his world was about to crumble around him, he told his sons to turn him in. Whether they knew everything or not is debatable, but turning in their father is probably the main thing that kept them from sharing a cell with him. It took a lot of money and high priced lawyers to avoid a trial and full investigation. Madoff’s confession was a swift move.
He told them, or is that speculation? I haven’t been paying an attention that close, I must confess.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:34:14am |
re: #56 reine.de.tout
We used to take our daughter to a very large, very empty parking lot of an abandoned building nearby, and let her drive around and get a feel for it.
You can’t take a 16-year-old and put ‘em behind the wheel of a car for the FIRST TIME and expect them to do OK, and the student driving portion of driver’s ed is a joke, 6 hours maybe, not nearly enough time to get them accustomed to it.
And of course, she knew how to drive a tractor before we did even that. Typical redneck southern idiot.
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darthstar Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:34:20am |
re: #56 reine.de.tout
We lived on a private road about two miles from the freeway. Lots of dirt trails behind our house that led to other country roads. We had a ‘62 Willies Jeep. I hit one oak tree and one manzanita bush, and got it stuck climbing a hill when I was 11 and 12, but besides that, I pretty much drove incident free until I was 18, when I tried to pass a Subaru through the back of a Monte Carlo at 40mph…(it doesn’t work).
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:34:57am |
re: #62 darthstar
We lived on a private road about two miles from the freeway. Lots of dirt trails behind our house that led to other country roads. We had a ‘62 Willies Jeep. I hit one oak tree and one manzanita bush, and got it stuck climbing a hill when I was 11 and 12, but besides that, I pretty much drove incident free until I was 18, when I tried to pass a Subaru through the back of a Monte Carlo at 40mph...(it doesn’t work).
oops. I hope everyone was OK - you obviously are.
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darthstar Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:35:43am |
re: #61 reine.de.tout
And of course, she knew how to drive a tractor before we did even that. Typical redneck southern idiot.
That’s a good skill. If she ever finds herself in one of those slasher movies with her friends in some remote part of the country, she can take the tractor that’s always there and get away.
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darthstar Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:36:38am |
re: #63 reine.de.tout
oops. I hope everyone was OK - you obviously are.
Yes, though my subaru was totaled.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:37:01am |
re: #44 reine.de.tout
Having tried to take my own life in the past I have every sympathy for those who cared for him. You think you’re ending your pain. Really you’re just passing it to your friends and family.
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darthstar Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:37:45am |
re: #66 Romantic Heretic
Having tried to take my own life in the past I have every sympathy for those who cared for him. You think you’re ending your pain. Really you’re just passing it to your friends and family.
Glad you failed!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:41:54am |
[Link: www.iambetterthanyourkids.com…]
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jdog29 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:43:14am |
Romantic Heretic: so glad you were unsuccessful.
Suicide touches us all and leaves such an empty space… my uncle on my mother’s side committed suicide on Dec. 17th over 20 years ago. I’m grateful no one closer has chosen such a painful route for everyone they love…
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:46:03am |
Some bad things are afoot in Moscow.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:48:09am |
There’s been a massive demonstration of soccer fans today. They were “protesting” the killing of one of their own by a Caucasian (the latter says it was self-defense). Soccer fans are known to be tied to nationalists.
So this item now reports there’ve been pogroms in the subway stations:
[Link: lenta.ru…]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:50:10am |
Here’s a bit about the clash with the cops which happened a bit earlier than the above:
[Link: www.winnipegfreepress.com…]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:51:07am |
From CNN:
[Link: news.blogs.cnn.com…]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:53:40am |
re: #73 Sergey Romanov
A bit of context for the “Russia is for Russians” slogan. In Russian it’s “Россия для русских”, wherein “русские” denotes ethnic Russians. Just a Russian citizen would be “россиянин”. So what this means is “Russia is for [ethnic] Russians”.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:56:43am |
A video:
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:57:50am |
re: #66 Romantic Heretic
Having tried to take my own life in the past I have every sympathy for those who cared for him. You think you’re ending your pain. Really you’re just passing it to your friends and family.
Suicide is not an option; it’s the end to options.
My sympathies to you for whatever pain you felt that made you feel you needed to take your own life. I hope things are much better now
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:59:21am |
re: #64 darthstar
That’s a good skill. If she ever finds herself in one of those slasher movies with her friends in some remote part of the country, she can take the tractor that’s always there and get away.
yes, yes yes - we all know those slashers are always eveeeel suthren rednecks.
*snicker*
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:01:32am |
Here’s an unofficial video:
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:02:33am |
re: #79 Sergey Romanov
Chants: “[ethnic] Russians, forward!”, “Moscow without [racial epithet for Caucasians]”, “Your children will answer for this murder”.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:03:33am |
re: #75 Sergey Romanov
A bit of context for the “Russia is for Russians” slogan. In Russian it’s “Россия для русских “, wherein “русские ;” denotes ethnic Russians. Just a Russian citizen would be “россиян ;ин”. So what this means is “Russia is for [ethnic] Russians”.
Russia has never gotten past that sort of chauvinism and it often leads to murder when it appears.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:04:55am |
re: #77 reine.de.tout
Thanks. They are.
At that time I believed all I had left was choices about how I was going to die.
Thanks to a ‘conservative’ premier (the Canadian equivalent of a state governor) I was evicted from my home. He had cut welfare 23% so I could no longer pay my rent. I got kicked out on a February night in Canada.
So, it seemed to me, I could either die in one of the many ways a homeless person could die in a Canadian winter or I could have my last moments be warm and dry.
Luckily I found enough strength to loosen the belt around my neck and get help. It took a long time to recover. But I’ve never been quite the same. Going that low scars a person, badly.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:08:24am |
re: #80 Sergey Romanov
Chants: “[ethnic] Russians, forward!”, “Moscow without [racial epithet for Caucasians]”, “Your children will answer for this murder”.
One thing about bullies, they hate it when their victims fight back.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:14:55am |
re: #83 Romantic Heretic
One thing about bullies, they hate it when their victims fight back.
The thing is that their fighting back turn them to Radical Islam (and it often has, see Chechnya ), the US will probably side with the bullies.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:17:58am |
re: #84 darthstar
This guy looks like my Bflat…
[Video]
That is one calm cat.
My cats would have wrapped themselves up in that paper.
| 87 |
Sionainn Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:20:34am |
re: #69 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.iambetterthanyourkids.com…]
I don’t know whether to be pissed at that jerk or laugh my ass off.
| 88 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:21:50am |
re: #85 Dark_Falcon
The thing is that their fighting back turn them to Radical Islam (and it often has, see Chechnya ), the US will probably side with the bullies.
Chechnya is a special case, IMHO. I don’t think these events will push anyone to Islamism, it happens in Moscow, after all, not in the national republics. What I worry about are the radicalized responses from both sides. It’s a result of the culture clash. Soccer fandom is a breeding ground of right-wing radicalism. Caucasian behavior on average is more conservative, patriarchal than the Russian one, and often results in needless bravado. These factors lead to fights, killings, and, as a final result, to these riots.
| 89 |
prairiefire Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:23:09am |
| 90 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:23:31am |
re: #87 Sionainn
I don’t know whether to be pissed at that jerk or laugh my ass off.
He only plays one on the Internet. Srsly.
[Link: www.salon.com…]
| 91 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:27:22am |
re: #87 Sionainn
I don’t know whether to be pissed at that jerk or laugh my ass off.
Oh, just laugh.
The “trannysorus rex” was hilarious.
Kids, when they’re learning to spell - my daughter would spell according to the sound of the alphabet letters as you said the alphabet. So the word “beautiful”, became “buttfull”. LOL. I laughed so hard …
| 92 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:29:20am |
re: #91 reine.de.tout
Oh, just laugh.
The “trannysorus rex” was hilarious.
Kids, when they’re learning to spell - my daughter would spell according to the sound of the alphabet letters as you said the alphabet. So the word “beautiful”, became “buttfull”. LOL. I laughed so hard …
And of course, when she was learning to talk, there was the usual inability to say certain sound combinations. “Firetruck” became “f-uck”. She would yell out, “MOMMY, wook at the fuck!”. There was no way I could keep her quiet.
| 93 |
Sionainn Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:32:41am |
re: #90 Sergey Romanov
He only plays one on the Internet. Srsly.
[Link: www.salon.com…]
LOL! Thanks.
| 94 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:36:32am |
re: #92 reine.de.tout
And of course, when she was learning to talk, there was the usual inability to say certain sound combinations. “Firetruck” became “f-uck”. She would yell out, “MOMMY, wook at the fuck!”. There was no way I could keep her quiet.
I actually never had that problem, according to my parents. My pronunciation has always been good and my vocabulary always greater than most people’s. But while that helps me understand what Dennis Miller is saying, it also means that I have problem with talking past other people.
| 95 |
Sionainn Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:36:44am |
re: #91 reine.de.tout
Oh, just laugh.
The “trannysorus rex” was hilarious.
Kids, when they’re learning to spell - my daughter would spell according to the sound of the alphabet letters as you said the alphabet. So the word “beautiful”, became “buttfull”. LOL. I laughed so hard …
I looked at the pictures first, and noticed that “tranysaurus” and had to laugh. My daughter is in kindergarten, just learning to write, and her pictures and stories are hilarious. I’m tempted to submit one…maybe one where it is raining flowers or dogs are wearing umbrellas on their backs or coming out of their heads.
| 96 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:36:54am |
Three ingredients and beautifully light with a little bit of bite. But here’s the sorcery: No eggs or starch needed
I might try this just to see it happen.
| 97 |
Sionainn Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:38:54am |
re: #92 reine.de.tout
And of course, when she was learning to talk, there was the usual inability to say certain sound combinations. “Firetruck” became “f-uck”. She would yell out, “MOMMY, wook at the fuck!”. There was no way I could keep her quiet.
Oh, we’ve had those moments with both our daughters. One would sing “play that fucky Dixieland.”
| 98 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 8:57:05am |
re: #97 Sionainn
Oh, we’ve had those moments with both our daughters. One would sing “play that fucky Dixieland.”
heheh.
And then there are the words that become part of the family lexicon. She couldn’t say “windshield wiper”, it came out as “windshiper”. And we’ve called ‘em “windshipers” ever since.
| 99 |
Varek Raith Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:03:36am |
Diplomat Holbrooke in critical condition, State Department says
U.S. diplomat Richard Holbrooke was in critical condition at George Washington University Hospital in Washington on Saturday after undergoing surgery to repair a tear in his aorta, a State Department spokesman said.Holbrooke, the Obama administration’s special representative for Pakistan and Afghanistan, fell ill Friday morning during a meeting with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and walked down to the department’s medical unit, a senior State Department official said. He was taken by ambulance to the hospital, the official said.
After doctors completed surgery on his aorta Saturday morning, Holbrooke was joined by his family, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said.
Holbrooke is a career diplomat best known for brokering the peace agreement between Bosnian factions in 1995 that became the Dayton accords.
I hope he recovers.
| 100 |
Varek Raith Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:05:51am |
re: #98 reine.de.tout
heheh.
And then there are the words that become part of the family lexicon. She couldn’t say “windshield wiper”, it came out as “windshiper”. And we’ve called ‘em “windshipers” ever since.
Heh.
When I was a kid, hamburgers became “hambingers”.
| 101 |
Taqyia2Me Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:07:08am |
re: #99 Varek Raith
Me too.
That he lived to the point of aorta repair surgery is a miracle, in itself.
| 102 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:10:04am |
re: #99 Varek Raith
Diplomat Holbrooke in critical condition, State Department says
I hope he recovers.
As do I. He has served his nation well, we would be worse off without him.
| 103 |
wrenchwench Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:11:52am |
re: #101 Taqyia2Me
Me too.
That he lived to the point of aorta repair surgery is a miracle, in itself.
A neighbor of mine survived that two years ago. He had to be flown to Phoenix (about a six hour drive, I don’t know how long the flight was) so his survival was pretty miraculous too. He gained some weight during his recovery that he needs to lose, but he’s doing fine.
| 104 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:18:39am |
More troubles for Haiti:
Senator Leahy Calls for Freeze on Haiti Aid, Clinton Silent, Palin Visits Camps
Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy (VT), chairman of the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee’s Subcommittee on the State Department and Foreign Operations, has called on President Obama’s administration to suspend aid to Haiti and cancel visas for its top officials. Leahy’s statement comes as the streets of Haiti are in chaos over a disputed election that was plagued by fraud, voter intimidation, ballot stuffing and violence even before the votes were counted.
| 106 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:27:51am |
re: #104 jaunte
More troubles for Haiti:
Senator Leahy Calls for Freeze on Haiti Aid, Clinton Silent, Palin Visits Camps
Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy (VT), chairman of the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee’s Subcommittee on the State Department and Foreign Operations, has called on President Obama’s administration to suspend aid to Haiti and cancel visas for its top officials. Leahy’s statement comes as the streets of Haiti are in chaos over a disputed election that was plagued by fraud, voter intimidation, ballot stuffing and violence even before the votes were counted.
I’m not sure what to do here. If the election was a fraud then we have only three choices, none of them good:
1. Prop up a government that we know to be a fraud, and lose credibility for having done so.
2. Do what we have often done the Caribbean and force the government out in favor of new, honest elections run by the UN. This would cause the US to be lambasted for “gunboat diplomacy” but I favor this option as the best in the long run.
3. Quietly start pulling out, considering the situation hopeless. This would abandon Haiti to more misery, but it would prevent us from wasting money or being bogged down there.
| 107 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:28:12am |
| 108 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:28:14am |
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bratwurst Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:28:36am |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
As do I. He has served his nation well, we would be worse off without him.
I have been fortunate enough to spend some time in Bosnia where he is regarded as a hero…by Bosniaks at least.
| 111 |
Varek Raith Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:29:31am |
| 113 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:30:17am |
re: #111 Varek Raith
Ok.
Wikileaks is the paragon of journalism.
/
:P
Hells bells, are you outta your mind?
| 114 |
Varek Raith Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:31:07am |
| 115 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:31:55am |
re: #106 Dark_Falcon
I agree with you on #2, but UN involvement brings other problems: the cholera strain affecting Haiti apparently came from Nepalese UN soldiers.
| 116 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:32:15am |
re: #114 Varek Raith
Hehehehahahaha!
I was joking.
:P
“After all time we’ve been together? I thought you knew me!”
[snif]
//
| 117 |
_RememberTonyC Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:33:04am |
Bernie madoff’s son Mark killed himself today on the second anniversary of his father’s arrest.
I hope Bernie has plenty of time to think about what his actions brought down on his family.
| 118 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:34:32am |
| 119 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:35:16am |
re: #118 researchok
Must be some good stuff in the water out there.
I changed my cup. No more plastics!
/
| 120 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:35:50am |
| 121 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:36:58am |
re: #117 _RememberTonyC
Bernie madoff’s son Mark killed himself today on the second anniversary of his father’s arrest.
I hope Bernie has plenty of time to think about what his actions brought down on his family.
I feel for his kids….the two year old was in the apartment at the time.
So much damage, heartbreak- and for what?
| 123 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:38:38am |
re: #120 researchok
And a new chapter begins…
Halleluja!
I went for a short walk again. Going out I was warm. Got a Diet Coke and pack of smokes. Coming back it was damn chilly. Kind of nice not seeing the usual weekday line of cars.
| 125 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:39:12am |
re: #115 jaunte
I agree with you on #2, but UN involvement brings other problems: the cholera strain affecting Haiti apparently came from Nepalese UN soldiers.
True, but that’s the sort of problem that can be addressed. One of the things the UN does do right is oversee elections. If the UN manages an election, it will be free and fair. The other reason to have UN do it is to reduce the accusations in Latin America that the election was rigged to favor the US. Those will get throw if we take action, but giving the UN the lead political role can help counter them.
| 126 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:39:53am |
| 127 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:40:57am |
re: #123 Gus 802
I went for a short walk again. Going out I was warm. Got a Diet Coke and pack of smokes. Coming back it was damn chilly. Kind of nice not seeing the usual weekday line of cars.
I hear that.
I went out to the farmers market this AM.
It was brisk (40’s) and a overcast but it was nice to get out there. Small croed, too.
| 128 |
Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:41:29am |
re: #113 reine.de.tout
Hells bells, are you outta your mind?
Of course I am.
It’s dark and scary in there.
| 129 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:43:02am |
OT, I love that Geico therapist commercial.
I really, really do.
Every time they play that, I just LOL.
| 130 |
Varek Raith Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:43:27am |
re: #129 researchok
OT, I love that Geico therapist commercial.
I really, really do.
Every time they play that, I just LOL.
“You jack wagon!”
| 131 |
HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:43:40am |
re: #121 researchok
I feel for his kids…the two year old was in the apartment at the time.
So much damage, heartbreak- and for what?
Good Morning Lizards!
This story bothers me..First he left his 2 yr old alone whilst he hung himself..Who does that? and there were reports the Gov’t was going after his money to pay back some of the victims..
Did he love money than life?
| 132 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:43:44am |
re: #127 researchok
I hear that.
I went out to the farmers market this AM.
It was brisk (40’s) and a overcast but it was nice to get out there. Small croed, too.
The news says it’s 34 here. Not exactly freezing. Didn’t check the humidity but it feels higher than normal.
| 133 |
Varek Raith Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:44:10am |
re: #129 researchok
OT, I love that Geico therapist commercial.
I really, really do.
Every time they play that, I just LOL.
This one amuses me…
| 134 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:46:19am |
Funny title: White-out conditions found near Eisenhower Tunnel.
I guess someone was looking for white-out conditions.
| 135 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:46:22am |
re: #131 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
This story bothers me..First he left his 2 yr old alone whilst he hung himself..Who does that? and there were reports the Gov’t was going after his money to pay back some of the victims..
Did he love money than life?
Clearly, he was despondent.
I suspect they will finds drugs/alcohol in his system. To do that with your kid in the next room is way out of run of the mill depression.
He called his wife in FL as well, to have her dad come by- at 7:30 AM on a Saturday- to check on the kid. Clearly, she could not talk rationally with him.
| 136 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:46:26am |
Wikileaks supporters…..
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
All hate America.
| 137 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:46:56am |
re: #131 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
This story bothers me..First he left his 2 yr old alone whilst he hung himself..Who does that? and there were reports the Gov’t was going after his money to pay back some of the victims..
Did he love money than life?
A lot of people do. He did not want to be hated and dispossessed, so he killed himself.
| 139 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:49:06am |
re: #136 Killgore Trout
Wikileaks supporters…
[Link: www.daylife.com…][Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
All hate America.
Surprise! Surprise! Hey look it’s the International Action Center!
Oprah Winfrey?
Guess everyone needs a hobby.
| 140 |
HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:49:29am |
| 141 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:49:42am |
re: #136 Killgore Trout
Wikileaks supporters…
[Link: www.daylife.com…][Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
All hate America.
Say what you want about Aussie leftists, at least their crowds have some good looking ladies in them.
| 142 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:50:18am |
re: #136 Killgore Trout
Wikileaks supporters…
[Link: www.daylife.com…][Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
All hate America.
The Idiot Brigade.
I laughed when I saw the Pakistan pic- as if Assange and wilkileaks are real priorities in their lives- like there isn’t enough corruption in Pakistan.
| 143 |
Stan the Demanded Plan Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:50:35am |
re: #117 _RememberTonyC
Bernie madoff’s son Mark killed himself today on the second anniversary of his father’s arrest.
I hope Bernie has plenty of time to think about what his actions brought down on his family.
Oh my. I just woke up and saw this.
| 144 |
Buck Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:50:43am |
re: #131 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
This story bothers me..First he left his 2 yr old alone whilst he hung himself..Who does that? and there were reports the Gov’t was going after his money to pay back some of the victims..
Did he love money than life?
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
| 145 |
Nervous Norvous Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:52:52am |
re: #144 Buck
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Suicide is a selfish solution for a temporary problem. It is the feeling of helplessness to help oneself combined with all lack of hope that things can ever get any better.
| 146 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:53:01am |
Burp.
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
Gee whiz. That one sign is for “Workers World”. Who dem figureds.
This is like from central casting.
| 147 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:53:15am |
re: #142 researchok
The Idiot Brigade.
I laughed when I saw the Pakistan pic- as if Assange and wilkileaks are real priorities in their lives- like there isn’t enough corruption in Pakistan.
By blaming America, they take the focus off of their own responsibilities and blame America for everything wrong in Pakistan. It’s another use of a conspiracy theory to escape responsibility.
| 148 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:53:23am |
| 149 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:54:22am |
And he’s wearing a Kifaya. Somehow I doubt that’s just a fashion statement.
| 150 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:54:46am |
re: #148 reine.de.tout
Counter-Demonstrators Outnumber Handful of Westboro Baptist Congregants Picketing Near N.C. Church
Westboro was able to put together a group of 5 - just 5 - people. Counter-protesters outnumber them — that was their experience at an appearance here once, as well.
| 151 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:54:54am |
re: #146 Gus 802
Burp.
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
Gee whiz. That one sign is for “Workers World”. Who dem figureds.
This is like from central casting.
And here we see the famed New York Barking Moonbat…
| 152 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:55:01am |
re: #148 reine.de.tout
Counter-Demonstrators Outnumber Handful of Westboro Baptist Congregants Picketing Near N.C. Church
I’m watching the memorial now on WRAL.
| 154 |
Nervous Norvous Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:55:26am |
re: #148 reine.de.tout
Counter-Demonstrators Outnumber Handful of Westboro Baptist Congregants Picketing Near N.C. Church
Is it too much to ask that they get their wheels stolen and their car/van/paddywagon that they travel around on left up on blocks?
| 155 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:55:51am |
re: #139 Gus 802
Yeah, as annoying as all the Wikileaks discussion has been we’ve finally arrived at a clear picture of what’s going on. It looks like Anonymous hasn’t changed the world, they gave up hacking after the first arrest and now all these idiots from 4chan (who have no experience of knowledge of foreign affairs or current events) are going to try to read 250,000 boring state dept. cables to look for something interesting or important. That won’t last past the weekend.
| 156 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:56:13am |
re: #149 Gus 802
And he’s wearing a Kifaya. Somehow I doubt that’s just a fashion statement.
Really, you must be psychic!
| 157 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:56:43am |
re: #150 reine.de.tout
Westboro was able to put together a group of 5 - just 5 - people. Counter-protesters outnumber them — that was their experience at an appearance here once, as well.
Good on the counter-protesters for shutting down those hater loons.
| 159 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:57:07am |
| 160 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:57:57am |
re: #159 Killgore Trout
The end of the evil capitalist nation states!
Freedom at last! No more nation states and no more cops! World can’t wait!
//
| 161 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:58:01am |
re: #155 Killgore Trout
Yeah, as annoying as all the Wikileaks discussion has been we’ve finally arrived at a clear picture of what’s going on. It looks like Anonymous hasn’t changed the world, they gave up hacking after the first arrest and now all these idiots from 4chan (who have no experience of knowledge of foreign affairs or current events) are going to try to read 250,000 boring state dept. cables to look for something interesting or important. That won’t last past the weekend.
What impresses me most is the phony, self righteous indignation and piety.
Feelings trump knowledge and substance.
Nauseating.
| 162 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:58:40am |
| 163 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 9:59:25am |
re: #156 researchok
Really, you must be psychic!
But seriously though. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to have predicted who would be lining up with Wikileaks and Julian Assange.
| 164 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:00:03am |
re: #163 Gus 802
But seriously though. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to have predicted who would be lining up with Wikileaks and Julian Assange.
He counted on it- knowing full well the publicity that would ensue.
| 165 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:00:36am |
re: #160 Gus 802
Freedom at last! No more nation states and no more cops! World can’t wait!
//
Bottom Line: Moonbats were quiet for a long while, but Wikileaks has some of them barking again and they’re just as crazy as ever.
| 166 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:01:24am |
re: #165 Dark_Falcon
Bottom Line: Moonbats were quiet for a long while, but Wikileaks has some of them barking again and they’re just as crazy as ever.
Plus ca change, plus ca reste la meme.
| 167 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:01:52am |
re: #165 Dark_Falcon
Bottom Line: Moonbats were quiet for a long while, but Wikileaks has some of them barking again and they’re just as crazy as ever.
Of course they’re going to be coming out of the woodwork en masse come January. For obvious reasons. I’m speaking of the ones in the USA.
| 169 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:04:21am |
Elizabeth Edwards memorial service live in NBC17.com
| 170 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:05:02am |
re: #167 Gus 802
Of course they’re going to be coming out of the woodwork en masse come January. For obvious reasons. I’m speaking of the ones in the USA.
True. It’ll be back to the “Republicans are pure EVIL!!1” meme. No room for compromise, same hate for the other side as wingnuts, but less dangerous because they aren’t armed. I hate loons like those. All they do is give me trouble.
| 171 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:05:05am |
re: #136 Killgore Trout
Wikileaks supporters…
[Link: www.daylife.com…][Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
All hate America.
From Australia:
[Link: www.daylife.com…]
“Defend Julian Assange; We Deserve the Truth”.
The truth about what?
If they’re in Australia and want “the truth”, it seems they would be demonstrating because Assange isn’t revealing Australian “truth”, just US “truth”.
| 173 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:07:58am |
re: #170 Dark_Falcon
True. It’ll be back to the “Republicans are pure EVIL!!1” meme. No room for compromise, same hate for the other side as wingnuts, but less dangerous because they aren’t armed. I hate loons like those. All they do is give me trouble.
Did you watch Clinton yesterday? He was pretty good. Yeah, if they don’t settle down and works towards compromise they won’t get anything done in the House. Then you know who will become the party of no. But, some people have forgotten that this is not a one-party nation and that there are in fact people with different POVs whether we like it or not. Ironically, that was the same argument but from the other side prior to election day.
| 174 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:08:03am |
re: #171 reine.de.tout
The Wild One
Mildred: What’re you rebelling against, Johnny?
Johnny: Whaddya got?
| 175 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:08:17am |
re: #171 reine.de.tout
They have no interest in the “truth”. They just want to stop American imperialism and capitalism.
| 176 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:08:26am |
re: #170 Dark_Falcon
It’ll be back to the “Republicans are pure EVIL!!1” meme. No room for compromise, same hate for the other side as wingnuts, but less dangerous because they aren’t armed.
That’s not an assumption I’m willing to make.
| 177 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:11:35am |
re: #175 Killgore Trout
They have no interest in the “truth”. They just want to stop American imperialism and capitalism.
Boy they’re going to have a rough time reconciling their materialist and trendy lifestyles with their anti-capitalism.
| 178 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:12:00am |
re: #177 Gus 802
Boy they’re going to have a rough time reconciling their materialist and trendy lifestyles with their anti-capitalism.
But that’s nothing new. I’ve seen these posers before.
| 179 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:13:58am |
re: #173 Gus 802
Did you watch Clinton yesterday? He was pretty good. Yeah, if they don’t settle down and works towards compromise they won’t get anything done in the House. Then you know who will become the party of no. But, some people have forgotten that this is not a one-party nation and that there are in fact people with different POVs whether we like it or not. Ironically, that was the same argument but from the other side prior to election day.
That is never a popular fact on the far sides on the aisle. Compromise depends on the non-crazy members of both parties being able to work with each other. Here’s another person who’s not helping to do that:
TRENDING: Palin warns of new ‘death panels’
“Death Panels” could be back, Sarah Palin says. But this time they are not the creation of the Obama administration. No, these are the handiwork of the bipartisan debt commission.
In an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, the former Alaska governor takes aim at several of the controversial commission’s recommendations, saying the cuts it proposes “implicitly endorses the use of ‘death panel’-like rationing.”
Today on ‘Sarah Palin’s Alaska”: Sarah falls off the top of the Stupid Tree and hit every branch on the way down.
| 180 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:14:47am |
re: #178 Gus 802
But that’s nothing new. I’ve seen these posers before.
Bunch of goobers with adolescent Robin Hood fantasies.
| 181 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:16:03am |
re: #180 Slumbering Behemoth
Bunch of goobers with adolescent Robin Hood fantasies.
Oh yeah I love that image!
Down with corporations and capitalism! Has anyone seen my Apple © IPhone ™?
| 182 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:17:33am |
re: #180 Slumbering Behemoth
Bunch of goobers with adolescent Robin Hood fantasies.
And if you smoke you have to smoke Parliaments.
| 183 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:19:33am |
Parliament cigarettes, PBR beer, American Apparel hoodie, Vans sneakers…
| 184 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:19:59am |
re: #182 Gus 802
And if you smoke you have to smoke Parliaments.
I’m pure evil. I smoke generics.
The filters are likely made from the hair of impoverished children who were told Santa Claus is dead just before their heads were shaved.
| 185 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:20:52am |
re: #184 Slumbering Behemoth
I’m pure evil. I smoke generics.
The filters are likely made from the hair of impoverished children who were told Santa Claus is dead just before their heads were shaved.
If I could get Chinese cigarettes I would. Preferably those made using prison labor.
| 186 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:22:03am |
re: #183 Gus 802
I, met a boy, wearing Vans, 501s, and a
Dope beastie-tee, nipple rings,
New tattoos that claim that he
Was OGT,
back in ‘92,
from the first EP.
And in between
Sips of Coke
He told me that
He thought
We were sellin’ out,
Layin’ down,
Suckin’ up
To the man.
Well now I’ve got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that
I’m the man,
And if I’m the man,
Then you’re the man, and
He’s the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin’ finger up your ass.
| 187 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:22:32am |
re: #185 Gus 802
With asbestos filter?
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
| 188 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:23:46am |
re: #187 jaunte
With asbestos filter?
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
Excellent. Those would be great to put in my baby seal fur lined cigarette case.
| 190 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:25:38am |
re: #165 Dark_Falcon
Bottom Line: Moonbats were quiet for a long while, but Wikileaks has some of them barking again and they’re just as crazy as ever.
| 191 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:28:25am |
re: #189 Gus 802
Yeah. Sell out. Right.
“No way, dude! I’m totally unique and non-conformist, just like everyone else! Down with the Terro-Capitalist Nation State!”
“I’m so totally gonna TweetTM that from my iPhone©”
| 192 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:32:43am |
re: #191 Slumbering Behemoth
“No way, dude! I’m totally unique and non-conformist, just like everyone else! Down with the Terro-Capitalist Nation State!”
“I’m so totally gonna TweetTM that from my iPhone©”
Then when I drive home in my Mini Cooper™ I’ll fire up my Apple© iMac™ and blog it on Facebook©.
| 193 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:35:41am |
re: #192 Gus 802
Hell yeah! Down with The Man! Down with corporations! Down with the state!
Hey! Where’d all my cool shit go?!?
| 194 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:36:26am |
re: #193 Slumbering Behemoth
Can I interest you in a fine handcrafted stick?
| 195 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:37:01am |
re: #193 Slumbering Behemoth
Hell yeah! Down with The Man! Down with corporations! Down with the state!
Hey! Where’d all my cool shit go?!?
All gone! Here’s your flight simulator…
| 196 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:37:24am |
re: #192 Gus 802
Then when I drive home in my Mini Cooper™ I’ll fire up my Apple© iMac™ and blog it on Facebook©.
The hypocrisy and ignorance is just breathtaking.
| 197 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:38:50am |
re: #194 jaunte
Can I interest you in a fine handcrafted stick?
Here’s you social networking!
Image: daw_drum_circle_small.jpg
And your new calculator…
| 198 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:38:56am |
re: #194 jaunte
Can I interest you in a fine handcrafted stick?
Only if it fell from the tree naturally, and didn’t hit any animals on the way down.
Oh, and if you tell me it was handcrafted by an “artisan” with an exotic sounding, non-Western name, I’ll pay you ten times what it’s worth.
| 199 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:39:36am |
re: #198 Slumbering Behemoth
Only if it fell from the tree naturally, and didn’t hit any animals on the way down.
Oh, and if you tell me it was handcrafted by an “artisan” with an exotic sounding, non-Western name, I’ll pay you ten times what it’s worth.
What if I use flint rock tools? Hmm?
| 200 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:39:37am |
re: #192 Gus 802
Then when I drive home in my Mini Cooper™ I’ll fire up my Apple© iMac™ and blog it on Facebook©.
first I’m going to stop by my favorite posh coffee shop and sit around dissing The Man over a couple of lattes.
| 201 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:41:20am |
| 202 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:41:56am |
re: #200 cliffster
first I’m going to stop by my favorite posh coffee shop and sit around dissing The Man over a couple of lattes.
And if you’re on the run you can always put your coffee in an REI© Vacuum Infuser Mug™.
| 203 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:42:14am |
Explosions kill 1, injure 2 in Stockholm:
[Link: www.forbes.com…]
| 205 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:43:48am |
re: #199 Gus 802
What if I use flint rock tools? Hmm?
Only if you found them lying about. I don’t want to support any blood thirsty mining corporations.
| 206 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:45:22am |
re: #205 Slumbering Behemoth
Only if you found them lying about. I don’t want to support any blood thirsty mining corporations.
Yes. No one should ever disturb the soil. It’s a worthy goal to live a mining free life. Makes for excellent conversation at dinner parties.
| 207 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:45:41am |
| 209 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:47:13am |
re: #207 cliffster
Why you evil, brainwashing bastard. That’s child abuse!
| 210 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:47:51am |
re: #208 Gus 802
yeah, I just noticed the price on that thing. we didn’t pay nearly that much.. I think $35 - $40 at costco. costco is groovy
| 211 |
researchok Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:47:57am |
The Elizabeth Edwards eulogies have been quite remarkable thus far.
| 212 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:48:06am |
re: #208 Gus 802
Plastics!!11ty Good gravy.
Damn. That’s pretty expensive. How much are GI Joe’s today?
The price is measured in the innocent blood on Joe’s hands. Is it worth it?
| 213 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:48:59am |
re: #209 Slumbering Behemoth
Why you evil, brainwashing bastard. That’s child abuse!
And it leads to the indoctrination of young girls which continues the subjugation of womyn!
| 214 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:49:32am |
re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth
The price is measured in the innocent blood on Joe’s hands. Is it worth it?
GI Joe perpetuates the war culture!
| 215 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 10:56:17am |
re: #203 jaunte
Explosions kill 1, injure 2 in Stockholm:
[Link: www.forbes.com…]
Photos and video here:
[Link: www.aftonbladet.se…]
| 216 |
Stan the Demanded Plan Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:01:49am |
Oooh, Cliff & Hoops - you here?
Bob Stoops returns to Florida????????
| 219 |
Stan the Demanded Plan Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:05:00am |
| 220 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:08:38am |
re: #218 jaunte
Still a mystiska explosioner.
Yeah. If it was one car I would think possibly an accident or an explosion due to a car fire. Two explosions I think explain, in part, the obvious. No word on any suspects yet. If I’m reading correctly, some are reporting one blast while others are reporting two blasts. Nothing is really clear yet.
| 221 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:08:44am |
re: #219 Stanley Sea
yeah, no doubt. and there will be great gnashing of okie teeth.. we’ll see, that’d be interesting.
| 222 |
wrenchwench Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:09:36am |
My favorite parade just went by. It’s Shop With a Cop day, and every law enforcement vehicle in the county just went by loaded with kids. They paraded through downtown with all the sirens blaring and kids waving out the windows. They’ll go to WalMart and spend their share of whatever money was raised this year on gifts for themselves and their parents.
| 223 |
Stan the Demanded Plan Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:10:21am |
re: #221 cliffster
yeah, no doubt. and there will be great gnashing of okie teeth.. we’ll see, that’d be interesting.
More rumors. It’s going off this morning!!
TheBullGator
It’s clear to Spencer Tillman that Dan Mullen will be the next Florida head coach. That means nothing. He’s guessing like we are.
| 224 |
Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:12:07am |
re: #222 wrenchwench
My favorite parade just went by. It’s Shop With a Cop day, and every law enforcement vehicle in the county just went by loaded with kids. They paraded through downtown with all the sirens blaring and kids waving out the windows. They’ll go to WalMart and spend their share of whatever money was raised this year on gifts for themselves and their parents.
OMG, WALMART!!!11 THE POLICE ARE BEING USED TO INDOCTRINATE KIDS IN CAPITALISM AND EXPLOITATION!!!11 ELEVENTY!!!1
/Moonbat
| 225 |
wrenchwench Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:14:02am |
re: #224 Dark_Falcon
OMG, WALMART!!!11 THE POLICE ARE BEING USED TO INDOCTRINATE KIDS IN CAPITALISM AND EXPLOITATION!!!11 ELEVENTY!!!1
/Moonbat
Today WalMart will have NO shoplifters.
I better keep my own eyes peeled.
| 226 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:14:25am |
re: #224 Dark_Falcon
OMG, WALMART!!!11 THE POLICE ARE BEING USED TO INDOCTRINATE KIDS IN CAPITALISM AND EXPLOITATION!!!11 ELEVENTY!!!1
/Moonbat
Cops are an outdated concept perpetrated by the crypto-capitalist-fascist system. They can easily be replaced with community policing and gun control.
//
| 227 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:14:58am |
re: #224 Dark_Falcon
ARGG!! Ya beat me to it. Next time, include something about child prison labor in China.
| 228 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:18:40am |
re: #223 Stanley Sea
More rumors. It’s going off this morning!!
gators will probably be going into full-on freakout mode soon. yall just chill.. there’s lots of butt-kicking left in the swamp.
| 229 |
Stan the Demanded Plan Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:19:35am |
re: #228 cliffster
gators will probably be going into full-on freakout mode soon. yall just chill.. there’s lots of butt-kicking left in the swamp.
Ha, this is fun, my Gator twitter feed is going OFF. Soon we will know.
Jeremy Foley is one hell of an AD.
| 230 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:21:37am |
re: #226 Gus 802
Cops are an outdated concept perpetrated by the crypto-capitalist-fascist system. They can easily be replaced with community policing and gun control.
//
MAN 1
Yeah man, the corporations. Right now
they’re raping the world for money!
KYLE
Yeah, so, where are they. Let’s go get
‘em.
MAN 2
Right now we’re proving we don’t need
corporations. We don’t need money. This
can become a commune where everyone
just helps each other.
MAN 1
Yeah, we’ll have one guy who like, who
like, makes bread. A-and one guy who
like, l-looks out for other people’s
safety.
STAN
You mean like a baker and a cop?
MAN 2
No no, can’t you imagine a place where
people live together and like, provide
services for each other in exchange
for their services?
KYLE
Yeah, it’s called a town.
DRIVER
You kids just haven’t been to college
yet. But just you wait, this thing is
about to get HUGE.
| 231 |
HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:23:25am |
re: #221 cliffster
yeah, no doubt. and there will be great gnashing of okie teeth.. we’ll see, that’d be interesting.
Nah..He just built a new house here in Norman…He ain’t going anywhere..
| 232 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:24:42am |
re: #230 Slumbering Behemoth
Once you tear down the Police-Judicial-Penal Industrial Complex all crime will end. Just like if you tear down the DOD all wars will end!
//
| 233 |
Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:25:01am |
re: #184 Slumbering Behemoth
I’m pure evil. I smoke generics.
The filters are likely made from the hair of impoverished children who were told Santa Claus is dead just before their heads were shaved.
I smoke a pipe. You can’t get more bourgeoise than that.
| 234 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:25:47am |
re: #233 Romantic Heretic
I smoke a pipe. You can’t get more bourgeoise than that.
I hope it’s at least made of rainforest wood.
| 235 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:27:41am |
re: #232 Gus 802
Once you tear down the Police-Judicial-Penal Industrial Complex all crime will end. Just like if you tear down the DOD all wars will end!
//
… and just like if you steal classified gov’t information and openly distribute it to everyone, all world gov’ts will become just and honest.
//
| 236 |
Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:31:13am |
re: #234 Gus 802
I hope it’s at least made of rainforest wood.
Haven’t the slightest idea. I’m pretty sure there just you’re common briars though.
If I could afford big money for a pipe I’d get a carved meerschaum.
| 237 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:34:38am |
re: #234 Gus 802
I hope it’s at least made of rainforest wood.
NOOO!!! I should be made from reclaimed material, preferably human, fashioned by Tibetan monks.
| 238 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:41:51am |
“Down with the Establishment, man! And, uh, cops are stupid.”
“Now lets go wreck some shit and harass strangers to prove just how educated and ideological we are.”
| 239 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:45:35am |
re: #238 Slumbering Behemoth
“Down with the Establishment, man! And, uh, cops are stupid.”
“Now lets go wreck some shit and harass strangers to prove just how educated and ideological we are.”
“If we don’t get a university education we wind up in police uniforms?” What a little asshole. And people wonder why some of them get the word elitism tagged onto their movements. So much for concern for the common man of which most of the police are.
| 240 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 11:57:13am |
re: #238 Slumbering Behemoth
“Down with the Establishment, man! And, uh, cops are stupid.”
“Now lets go wreck some shit and harass strangers to prove just how educated and ideological we are.”
Ha! And then he goes and says “and thousands of people joined our Facebook group.”
Oh and guess what? That’s a meeting for “Coalition of Resistance” which was created by Tony Benn. Wouldn’t you know it…
A STATE OF PALESTINE NOW
19th April 2002The main responsibility for the appalling crimes being perpetrated against the Palestinians must be equally shared between Jerusalem and Washington, for successive American governments have funded Israel, armed Israel and used their Veto at the Security Council to protect Israel from the being forced to comply with what World opinion wanted it to do.
In defence of his brutal and cruel policy of occupation and persecution Sharon has turned on his critics and accused them of anti-Semitism, almost as if Arafat was some modern day Hitler preparing a new Holocaust against a weak and terrified people, deserted by the world…
| 241 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 12:17:56pm |
re: #239 Gus 802
Don’t get me wrong, Gus. I am sympathetic to these little pikers plight.
No one likes to see their share of the cost of goods and services get increased, especially government services. The whole experience can be rather taxing.
///
| 242 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 12:25:41pm |
re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth
Don’t get me wrong, Gus. I am sympathetic to these little pikers plight.
No one likes to see their share of the cost of goods and services get increased, especially government services. The whole experience can be rather taxing.
///
I can understand the hassle of having to deal with increased tuition costs. But not with the rioting, socialist and Communists alliances, Tony Benn, and George Galloway looming in the background. The UK has run out of money that’s a fact. Socialism cannot exist without capital and the UK has to figure out a way to create that capital the old fashioned way. This is the problem when societies think they can only get by with a service economy.
I’m rambling and making a string of declarations.
| 243 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 11, 2010 12:30:33pm |
re: #242 Gus 802
And it would seem you missed my little pun entirely. :(
| 244 |
Gus Sat, Dec 11, 2010 12:32:14pm |
re: #243 Slumbering Behemoth
And it would seem you missed my little pun entirely. :(
No I didn’t. I just went off on a tangent and got a little serious for a moment.
| 245 |
Peter_P3 Sat, Dec 11, 2010 7:11:27pm |
There has been a failed terrorist attack in Swedens Capital Stockholm. Apparently a guy blew himself up and a car exploded as well. Only casualty is the terrorist.
What do you guys make of this? Sweden lost its virginity tonite. Luckily no innocent lives were spilled. Is this the beginning of the end for Sweden as a PC nation?
| 247 |
Peter_P3 Sun, Dec 12, 2010 3:21:19am |
What are you trying to say Charles? Do you think he was part of a sleeping cell or acting on his own? Why do you guys in here use the ostrich technique (Bury head in ground) for news like this? Swedish media has for a first time in several years written about the background of a criminal who is an immigrant. This time it seems - they couldnt avoid the issue. Charles you even did an article about Lars Vilks Mo cartoon rediculing him, didnt you?
| 248 |
Peter_P3 Sun, Dec 12, 2010 3:42:53am |
For everyone else who is interested: Here is the FACEBOOK profile of the terrorist that blew himself up in Sweden yesterday:
[Link: www.facebook.com…]
| 249 |
Peter_P3 Sun, Dec 12, 2010 10:12:25am |
Turns out the suicide bomber had a dating-profile on [Link: www.muslima.com….] I think they advertise here on LGF, i have certainly seen their advertisement many times? So maybe he was a lizard?
| 250 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Dec 12, 2010 4:29:38pm |
re: #249 Peter_P3
Turns out the suicide bomber had a dating-profile on [Link:
| 251 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Dec 12, 2010 4:31:04pm |
re: #249 Peter_P3
Lets try that again…
Here’s a free tip Peter, stop necroing this thread and start participating in the live ones (even if you just try to post this same information over there and see if anyone feels interested in talking about)…
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