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I used to think that the brain was the most wonderful organ in my body. Then I realized who was telling me this.
— Emo Philips
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jaunte Fri, May 13, 2011 10:35:57pm |
Happy May 14...
On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over a Palestine expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and approved the following proclamation, declaring the establishment of the State of Israel. The new state was recognized that night by the United States and three days later by the USSR.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, May 13, 2011 10:36:40pm |
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dirtyharry71 Fri, May 13, 2011 10:38:10pm |
So, how many generations until the white, Christian Conservative "movement" is dead? I say we'll be a secular society similar to Europe within two generations... call it 50 years. Am I wrong?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 13, 2011 10:44:42pm |
re: #4 dirtyharry71
Dunno. How long was it before the pantheons of Greek and Roman theology passed from the realm of "legitimate" belief and into the dustbin of history?
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Kragar Fri, May 13, 2011 10:45:55pm |
First, we get the secular society, then we get taken over by the gay Islamic supremacists, right?
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steve Fri, May 13, 2011 10:47:56pm |
re: #4 dirtyharry71
So, how many generations until the white, Christian Conservative "movement" is dead? I say we'll be a secular society similar to Europe within two generations... call it 50 years. Am I wrong?
Feeling in a funny mood tonight I answer dirtyharry with "Who cares?" (sarc)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 13, 2011 10:48:02pm |
re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
First, we get the secular society, then we get taken over by the gay Islamic supremacists, right?
Gay, Atheist, Muslims. Do try to keep up.
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Kragar Fri, May 13, 2011 10:50:49pm |
re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth
Dunno. How long was it before the pantheons of Greek and Roman theology passed from the realm of "legitimate" belief and into the dustbin of history?
SWEET ZEUS'S BEARD MAN!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 13, 2011 10:50:50pm |
re: #4 dirtyharry71
So, how many generations until the white, Christian Conservative "movement" is dead? I say we'll be a secular society similar to Europe within two generations... call it 50 years. Am I wrong?
And just to quibble, they may call themselves "conservative", but they would be more accurately described as "tyrannically theocratic".
Just sayin'.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 13, 2011 10:51:48pm |
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dirtyharry71 Fri, May 13, 2011 10:51:51pm |
re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I had no idea it was a direct line from secular to gay to Islamic fundamenalist!! Exactly what KIND of porn was on OBL's laptop? This could get interesting...
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Kragar Fri, May 13, 2011 10:55:24pm |
re: #12 dirtyharry71
I had no idea it was a direct line from secular to gay to Islamic fundamenalist!!
Well, thats what Newt Gingrich said would happen.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 13, 2011 11:12:15pm |
re: #3 negativ
How TV Ruined Your Life, Part 1:
FEAR
[Video]
Looks like an interesting and thought provoking series. But if they don't devote an episode to the mendacious nature of televangelism, then they ain't shit. Here's to hoping that they do.
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Kid A Fri, May 13, 2011 11:23:10pm |
Wow, Charles just followed me on twitter. Not bad for five months here, I guess. ericphototx if anyone else wants to get me involved in Twitter again, lol. Have a great night Lizards. It's 1:22 AM here, yaaaaaaaawwwwnnn...
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windsagio Fri, May 13, 2011 11:25:32pm |
re: #15 Kid A
is it really charles or one of the 5-50 fake charles'?
Its one of the weird things the stalkers do.
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Varek Raith Fri, May 13, 2011 11:26:21pm |
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Kid A Fri, May 13, 2011 11:28:20pm |
re: #16 windsagio
is it really charles or one of the 5-50 fake charles'?
Its one of the weird things the stalkers do.
As far as I know, it's him. Just checked.
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Charles Johnson Fri, May 13, 2011 11:30:21pm |
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Varek Raith Fri, May 13, 2011 11:33:27pm |
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freetoken Fri, May 13, 2011 11:43:03pm |
Remember the Iowa theocratic group now called the Family Leader, formerly The Iowa Family Policy Center? They were behind the move to replace those Iowa SC justices who happened to agree that the Iowa Constitution allowed for gay marriage. They're also one of the groups that have been hosting GOP hopefuls this year.
Anyway, over the past 5 years, guess from where they've been getting a large chunk of money?
From you and me:
Iowa conservatives took $3 million in tax funds
A conservative group that has brought a string of potential presidential candidates to Iowa to lecture about the need to reduce government spending owes some of its past success to generous federal grants, which it has since rejected amid charges of hypocrisy.
[...] Each has called for reining in federal spending and talked about family values.The same group received more than half of its funding from federal grants over a five-year period when it operated under a different structure as The Iowa Family Policy Center. The group was among those that benefited from former President George Bush's faith-based initiative, which made it easier for social and religious organizations involved in community work to win federal funding.
The organization defends taking the grants, the bulk of which helped provide marriage mentoring for couples, but decided last year to turn down the final $550,000 in grant money and operate free of government involvement. In all, the group had accepted more than $3 million in federal grants since 2004.
[...]
Yes, due to GWB, this group which has such hatred for gay marriage received tax funds for "marriage mentoring."
Your tax money at work.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 13, 2011 11:45:03pm |
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windsagio Fri, May 13, 2011 11:46:18pm |
re: #25 freetoken
so what is marriage mentoring? "No you're not gay, get married already!"
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 13, 2011 11:47:24pm |
re: #23 laZardo
[celebratory Hebrew or Yiddish exclamation here]
Ladino or Judeo-Arabic will also work.
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austin_blue Sat, May 14, 2011 12:08:29am |
re: #2 jaunte
Happy May 14...
Mazel Tov! And a calm and peaceful Shabbos to the Jewish cohort at LGF.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 12:26:01am |
re: #4 dirtyharry71
So, how many generations until the white, Christian Conservative "movement" is dead? I say we'll be a secular society similar to Europe within two generations... call it 50 years. Am I wrong?
I wish you were, but this sort of Fundamentalism is very deeply rooted in America: we were founded by the descendants of the very fundamentalists who left Europe in the first place becasue they found it too secular...
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 12:29:02am |
re: #12 dirtyharry71
I had no idea it was a direct line from secular to gay to Islamic fundamenalist!! Exactly what KIND of porn was on OBL's laptop? This could get interesting...
Secularist means anti-Christian. Anti-Christian means receptive to Islamists because they are also anti-Christian. Secularist also means unaware of the threat of creeping Sharian and easy pickings for Islamists when they finally take over.
Jesus goes out, Sharia comes in . No discussion there.
/
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engineer cat Sat, May 14, 2011 12:35:31am |
“We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence,”
wtf??? modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence??? wtf???
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 12:36:45am |
re: #32 engineer dog
“We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence,”
wtf??? modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence??? wtf???
You are entering this thread without an Off Topic Warrant. Please go kick in the door downstairs...
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dirtyharry71 Sat, May 14, 2011 12:54:00am |
re: #31 ralphieboy
Jesus goes out, Sharia comes in . No discussion there./
Really? Those are the only two options? Jesus or Sharia law? Gimme a break. Secularism is more akin to agnosticism. The Western World is clearly on a trend away from a medieval God... pockets of America, such as the bible belt, will resist. However, I fail to see how this trend aids Islam. I genuinely believe medieval religions such as Christianity and Islam will be extinct within a few hundred years. Just like the Greek and Roman gods (and all the other religions) fell out of favor.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 1:04:11am |
re: #35 dirtyharry71
That / thingie was a sarc tag.
I was just parroting the established view of the conservative right that a Christian America is our only bullwark against all the evils of the world: homosexuality, Islamism, Communism, Satanism, pervert's jism, etc...
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freetoken Sat, May 14, 2011 1:11:01am |
re: #35 dirtyharry71
I think the "medieval God" is still in style. That would be a rather fanciful God that is very iconographic as is also very mystical. Americans on the whole are still into that.
However, for historical purposes it should be noted that neither Christianity or Islam are medieval religions. Both are modern descendants of early Iron Age Canaanite religion that went from polytheism to monotheism, then went through Hellenic (for all three so called "Abrahamic" religions) and Roman influences (in the case of Christianity).
For the US in particular this blended Roman/Greek/Caananite religion underwent significant updating in the 16th century, and the variant (that's still with us) that was so fervently believed in the US in the 18th century was a more emotionalism driven variant still.
Our society carries with it at least 3 millennia of heritage (or baggage if you prefer.)
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 1:26:57am |
re: #4 dirtyharry71
So, how many generations until the white, Christian Conservative "movement" is dead? I say we'll be a secular society similar to Europe within two generations... call it 50 years. Am I wrong?
No... because there are many secularists who also believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. as do I
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:40:47am |
re: #31 ralphieboy
Jesus goes out, Sharia comes in.
Never a miscomunication. You can't explain that.
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 1:47:23am |
re: #31 ralphieboy
Secularist means anti-Christian. Anti-Christian means receptive to Islamists because they are also anti-Christian. Secularist also means unaware of the threat of creeping Sharian and easy pickings for Islamists when they finally take over.
Jesus goes out, Sharia comes in . No discussion there.
/
Secularist does not mean anti Christian, it means having a belief structure that does not have religion as a basis. No true secularist would stand for Sharia. I think you need to educate yourself in this topic a bit more.
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 1:49:30am |
re: #40 boxhead
Secularist does not mean anti Christian, it means having a belief structure that does not have religion as a basis. No true secularist would stand for Sharia. I think you need to educate yourself in this topic a bit more.
oops... i missed the "/" tag in ralphieboy's post.. :)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:49:42am |
re: #40 boxhead
Are you unfamiliar with the thing known as the "sarc tag", or sarcasm tag? It seems that you are.
Here, sarc tag ----> /
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 1:49:55am |
Please not sarc tag at end of post.
I am just reiterating the established view of the conservative right on these issues.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:50:15am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 1:50:43am |
As a compassionate secularist, I forgive you...
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 1:50:44am |
re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth
Are you unfamiliar with the thing known as the "sarc tag", or sarcasm tag? It seems that you are.
Here, sarc tag ---> /
yeah yeah... i missed it... :p I did mention it...
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 1:51:03am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:53:04am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:54:03am |
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 1:54:20am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:57:05am |
re: #51 boxhead
Well, I'm drunk. And an asshole. And a... ooh look, free pr0n!
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 1:57:52am |
re: #52 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, I'm drunk. And an asshole. And a... ooh look, free pr0n!
LOL.... pr0n is just like shiny keys!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:59:44am |
re: #53 boxhead
Wet, sticky, shiny keys. But in a good way.
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 2:00:29am |
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 2:03:35am |
re: #55 boxhead
uuuhhh *brain imploding*
and on this note....... what is left of my better judgement say it is bed time... good night.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:04:11am |
Right now, I am drinking a bud light lime. It was given to me.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Tastes like an extra shitty 7up.
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boxhead Sat, May 14, 2011 2:05:19am |
re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth
Right now, I am drinking a bud light lime. It was given to me.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Tastes like an extra shitty 7up.
LOL... coors light here.... with tequila shots... :) night
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:08:39am |
re: #56 boxhead
and on this note... what is left of my better judgement say it is bed time... good night.
Certainly exercising better judgment than I, considering what I'm drinking. Sleep well, and dream of wet, sticky, shiny keys.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, May 14, 2011 3:43:16am |
Morning all. Love Emo Phillips.
Favorite line: Ya gotta hate that Soviet Union, eh? It's sorta this big conglomeration of incompetence and evil. Like the Post Office but with tanks.
Another: We found our cat yesterday. We would have found him sooner but unfortunately our lawn mower has a grass bag.
I do enjoy someone who can make me laugh even if I shouldn't.
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iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 3:46:43am |
Morning, folks. That page on the rapture ready kits is hysterical.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 14, 2011 3:54:39am |
re: #64 iceweasel
Morning, folks. That page on the rapture ready kits is hysterical.
Step 1 - Give me your worldly possessions.
Step 2 - Get Raptured.
Step 3 - You realize something's... amiss.
Step 4 - ???
Step 5 - PROFIT*
*For me, not you
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iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 3:55:42am |
re: #65 Varek Raith
What does a Sith need possessions for? :-)
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Varek Raith Sat, May 14, 2011 3:57:08am |
re: #66 iceweasel
What does a Sith need possessions for? :-)
Nothing. I just like making people miserable.
;)
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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 3:58:04am |
Ahem. For those who do not know the day after the "rapture" is Lag b'omer. That is the day that the Israelites entered Israel after wandering in the desert for 33 years.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 14, 2011 4:02:19am |
Philippine nuclear plant to become tourist attraction
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PermalinkPhilippine tourism officials are turning an unused nuclear power plant into a tourist attraction, the Philippine Star reports.
The $2.3 billion Bataan Nuclear Power plant was completed in 1984 but was never put into use.
The plant was built during the presidency of Ferdinand Marcos, but when Corazon Aquino became president in 1986, she refused to open it, saying its location near earthquake faults and an active volcano made it unsafe, according to an Agence-France Presse report.
Why build a reactor near a volcano???
:/
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Romantic Heretic Sat, May 14, 2011 4:04:21am |
re: #66 iceweasel
What does a Sith need possessions for? :-)
Every thing and every one is my possessions. *evil smile*
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Varek Raith Sat, May 14, 2011 4:07:07am |
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Varek Raith Sat, May 14, 2011 4:15:56am |
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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 4:18:25am |
The Wall Street Journal take on reactor "meltdown." [Link: online.wsj.com...]
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Varek Raith Sat, May 14, 2011 4:25:14am |
re: #72 Varek Raith
Good grief. Things are far worse than I thought and the US media is nowhere to be found reporting.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 14, 2011 4:26:24am |
Radioactive cesium detected in tea leaves
Radioactive material above designated safety limits has been detected in tea leaves harvested in 5 municipalities in Kanagawa Prefecture, neighboring Tokyo.The prefectural government checked samples of leaves harvested in 15 municipalities in the region.
Officials say that samples from 5 of those were found to contain unsafe levels of radioactive cesium.
They say 780 becquerels of cesium were detected in tea leaves in Odawara City, 740 becquerels in Kiyokawa Village, 680 becquerels in Yugawara Town, 670 becquerels in Aikawa Town and 530 becquerels in Manazuru Town.
The Kanagawa prefectural government has asked the affected municipalities and the local farmers' cooperative to voluntarily halt shipments for the time being.
It says it will repeat the tests in these towns and villages when tea leaves are harvested next month.
The survey comes after 570 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram -- exceeding the provisional state limit of 500 -- were detected in products from Minami Ashigara City on May 9th.
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BishopX Sat, May 14, 2011 4:43:58am |
re: #72 Varek Raith
Just to clarify: The reactor is not currently melting down. It has melted down (i.e. some of the nuclear fuel melted and collected at the bottom of the containment vessel), the only surprise is how much of it melted down. Once they started pumping water inot the reactor the water level was consistently a meter a half below where the tops of the rods should have been. From the temperature readings taken while pumping water we knew that the rods were not actually above the water level.
The surprise was that the entirety of the rods melted, rather than the top third as had been assumed.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 4:47:05am |
re: #76 BishopX
What is no surprise is that we are only finding out about this now that the facts can no longer be concelaled...
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Varek Raith Sat, May 14, 2011 4:47:47am |
I hate TEPCO.
And on that happy note, later gators!
:)
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BishopX Sat, May 14, 2011 4:53:29am |
re: #78 ralphieboy
I don't think there is anything malicious here. It took several years before we got a look inside of three mile Island's reactor 2 in order to assess how damaged things are. My guess is that they're still in the process of restoring instrumentation in the reactors. It took almost a month for them to be able to turn the lights back on in the control room. It's not surprising that it took longer for them to get the sensors back up and running.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 4:59:41am |
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
-Emo Philips
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 5:04:13am |
re: #80 BishopX
I don't think they were telling us everything they know, just like the banks didn't say anything about their bad debts until it could no longer be concealed...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 5:07:16am |
Probably the worst time in a person's life is when they have to kill a family member because they are the devil. But otherwise it's been a pretty good day.
Emo Philips
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iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 5:12:11am |
re: #84 RogueOne
Morning People!
Not all of us are morning people. Grrr. (Jim's working the early shift, I've been up since 6)
how you doing?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 5:16:53am |
When I was a kid my parents used to tell me, "Emo, don't ever go near the cellar door!"
One day when they were away, I went to the cellar door. And I pushed it and walked through and saw strange, wonderful things, things I had never seen before, like... trees. Grass. Flowers. The sun...
-Emo Phillips
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 5:17:19am |
Okay, that's enough. But I LOVE Emo Phillips.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 5:25:25am |
re: #85 iceweasel
Not all of us are morning people. Grrr. (Jim's working the early shift, I've been up since 6)
how you doing?
It's been a long week but I can't complain. My view is almost always "it could be worse!".
Yesterday was fun though, for me at least. My wife had a stereotypical Friday the 13th. She dropped her phone in a toilet and wasted it, she fell at work and bruised her ass pretty good, and then she ran into my elbow and blacked her eye. (She bruises easily.) She finally got pissed at the day and went to bed last night at 8. On the positive side her sis flew to her folks for a long weekend so we have the house to ourselves!
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 5:26:57am |
re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth
Right now, I am drinking a bud light lime. It was given to me.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Tastes like an extra shitty 7up.
That stuff is awful. Not even my shop drunk will drink that crap.
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Winny Spencer Sat, May 14, 2011 5:35:57am |
Jedward.
If this is what the world has come to then maybe the Rapture/Apocalypse (on May 21st) couldn't come soon enough.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 5:38:13am |
re: #90 Winny Spencer
I've told my creditors that I'll make a payment on the 22nd.
Using the looming apocalypse to my advantage.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 5:44:20am |
re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay, that's enough. But I LOVE Emo Phillips.
He's on Bob and Tom pretty often. He's a great interview guest, lots of funny stories.
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iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 5:46:41am |
jezebel.com...]>Brazilian Woman Wins The Right To Watch Porn & Masturbate At Work
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iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 5:47:21am |
Trying that link again....[Link: jezebel.com...]
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laZardo Sat, May 14, 2011 5:49:37am |
re: #94 iceweasel
I LOVE BRAZIL
Alternatively, you could just post the link up to the number and it'll still work.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 5:52:09am |
re: #93 iceweasel
jezebel.com...]>Brazilian Woman Wins The Right To Watch Porn & Masturbate At Work
I need more pics before I decide if I agree or not..//
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 5:54:38am |
re: #93 iceweasel
FTA:
Ana Catarina Bezerra, a 36-year-old accountant, has a chemical imbalance. She suffers from severe anxiety and hypersexuality. She finds that masturbating helps… for a little while. According to Guanabee, Bezerra explains:"I got so bad I would to masturbate up to forty seven-times a day. That's when I asked for help, I knew it wasn't normal."
I do need a new secretary. I wonder what it takes to get someone a work visa?
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iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 5:55:29am |
Blogger Finds Sensitive NYPD Counterterrorism Documents In the Trash
Hey, terrorists! If you're considering blowing up New York but were worried about the NYPD's crack anti-terrorism team foiling your plot, don't worry: Here's what the largest police department in the country is on the lookout for. A blogger just found the plans in the trash.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 6:06:57am |
re: #98 iceweasel
Oops, what a screw up. How do people in this day and age not know how to shred stuff before tossing it out? I noticed the first 2 comments berated the person who poste the info instead of the police for improper handling. If you don't want procedures to get out then properly handle the information and we won't have this issue.
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Ericus58 Sat, May 14, 2011 6:44:56am |
re: #99 RogueOne
Oops, what a screw up. How do people in this day and age not know how to shred stuff before tossing it out? I noticed the first 2 comments berated the person who poste the info instead of the police for improper handling. If you don't want procedures to get out then properly handle the information and we won't have this issue.
Sorry but I also feel that posting this document was a bad decision.
If the Blogger wanted to bring attention to this, fine - post about it and how it was relayed to the authorities. But don't scan in the damn thing.
Sure didn't make a poor situation any better.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 7:02:23am |
re: #17 Varek Raith
Republicans Kill Amendment That Would Have Prevented Suspected Terrorists From Buying Firearms
Facepalm.
As it happens, Mike Quigley is my parent's congressman, whom my father actually voted for (at my urging, since the few local Republicans had ignored the wise advice of the Chicago Tribune editorial board and nominated a joke candidate). But I don't agree with on this. We've already seen the terrorist watch list fail badly, and name true innocents (i.e. children) as terrorists. Given that, I'm not fond of the idea of it being a firearms ban list. Airline travel is one thing, but owning a gun is explicitly protected by the Constitution. It is a right that cannot be taken away without due process, which that bill would not provide.
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BishopX Sat, May 14, 2011 7:04:32am |
re: #100 Ericus58
The thing about patrol routes is that they are relatively easy to change. Everything else in the documents was common sense. I doubt that there was any real harm done.
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Fart Knocker Sat, May 14, 2011 7:07:16am |
Good Morning Lizards!
I found out yesterday that the Navy selected me for Captain!
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Ericus58 Sat, May 14, 2011 7:08:31am |
re: #103 rwdflynavy
Good Morning Lizards!
I found out yesterday that the Navy selected me for Captain!
Congratulations!
That is a high water mark in Rank. Well Done, Sir.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 7:08:48am |
re: #100 Ericus58
Sorry but I also feel that posting this document was a bad decision.
If the Blogger wanted to bring attention to this, fine - post about it and how it was relayed to the authorities. But don't scan in the damn thing.Sure didn't make a poor situation any better.
I disagree. Just like in the wikileaks scandal I don't blame wikileaks, I blame the government and, more specifically, Bradley Manning.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 7:08:48am |
re: #103 rwdflynavy
Good Morning Lizards!
I found out yesterday that the Navy selected me for Captain!
Hoo Ah! Great news!
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Ericus58 Sat, May 14, 2011 7:09:14am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
As it happens, Mike Quigley is my parent's congressman, whom my father actually voted for (at my urging, since the few local Republicans had ignored the wise advice of the Chicago Tribune editorial board and nominated a joke candidate). But I don't agree with on this. We've already seen the terrorist watch list fail badly, and name true innocents (i.e. children) as terrorists. Given that, I'm not fond of the idea of it being a firearms ban list. Airline travel is one thing, but owning a gun is explicitly protected by the Constitution. It is a right that cannot be taken away without due process, which that bill would not provide.
Is Quigley from Down Under?
/that was too easy....
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 7:09:18am |
Our friends in Pakistan....
Pakistan's parliament condemns U.S. raid, threatens sanctions
Pakistan's parliament threatened Saturday to cut off access to a facility used by NATO forces to ferry troops into Afghanistan, signaling a growing rift that began when U.S. commandos killed Osama bin Laden during a raid on a Pakistani compound.
A resolution adopted during a joint session of parliament condemned the U.S. action. It also called for a review of its working agreement with the U.S., demanded an independent investigation and ordered the immediate end of drone attacks along its border region.
Failure to end unilateral U.S. raids and drone attacks will force Pakistan to "to consider taking necessary steps, including withdrawal of (the) transit facility" used by the NATO's International Security Assistance Force, according to the resolution.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 7:09:19am |
re: #103 rwdflynavy
Good Morning Lizards!
I found out yesterday that the Navy selected me for Captain!
Holy crap! Congrats! How much ass kissing did that cost you?///
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 7:09:59am |
re: #100 Ericus58
Sorry but I also feel that posting this document was a bad decision.
If the Blogger wanted to bring attention to this, fine - post about it and how it was relayed to the authorities. But don't scan in the damn thing.Sure didn't make a poor situation any better.
Agreed. The risk of getting someone killed is too high. Someone who finds that sort of information has a duty to keep it secret.
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BishopX Sat, May 14, 2011 7:10:44am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
As it happens, Mike Quigley is my parent's congressman, whom my father actually voted for (at my urging, since the few local Republicans had ignored the wise advice of the Chicago Tribune editorial board and nominated a joke candidate). But I don't agree with on this. We've already seen the terrorist watch list fail badly, and name true innocents (i.e. children) as terrorists. Given that, I'm not fond of the idea of it being a firearms ban list. Airline travel is one thing, but owning a gun is explicitly protected by the Constitution. It is a right that cannot be taken away without due process, which that bill would not provide.
I'm sorry, but the terrorist watch lists specifically infringes on peoples 1st (assembly) and 4th amendment (search) rights and may very well infringe on peoples 6th amendment rights (the ability to confront an accuser). All without due process. So it's okay to infringe on people's rights as long as it's not their second amendment rights? If the watch lists lack due process, then fix the watch list.
If you get arrested on domestic violence charges your right to buy guns is restricted. You have about as much due process there as you do with your name showing up on a terror watch list. Why is one constitutional and the other not?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:10:45am |
re: #103 rwdflynavy
Good Morning Lizards!
I found out yesterday that the Navy selected me for Captain!
Cool, I need a couple of house eradicated!!!
Morning Honcos.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 7:11:41am |
re: #108 Killgore Trout
Our friends in Pakistan...
Pakistan's parliament condemns U.S. raid, threatens sanctions
They're just spouting off. They know that if they did that we'd cut off the aid money they're stealing.
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BishopX Sat, May 14, 2011 7:12:12am |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
What information did the blogger disclose that could get someone killed?
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Ericus58 Sat, May 14, 2011 7:12:45am |
re: #108 Killgore Trout
Our friends in Pakistan...
Pakistan's parliament condemns U.S. raid, threatens sanctions
There is some serious blame-shifting going on there.
Ignore the many small men behind the curtain....
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Fart Knocker Sat, May 14, 2011 7:12:51am |
re: #109 RogueOne
Holy crap! Congrats! How much ass kissing did that cost you?///
The list was long and not so distinguished...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:12:58am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
As it happens, Mike Quigley is my parent's congressman, whom my father actually voted for (at my urging, since the few local Republicans had ignored the wise advice of the Chicago Tribune editorial board and nominated a joke candidate). But I don't agree with on this. We've already seen the terrorist watch list fail badly, and name true innocents (i.e. children) as terrorists. Given that, I'm not fond of the idea of it being a firearms ban list. Airline travel is one thing, but owning a gun is explicitly protected by the Constitution. It is a right that cannot be taken away without due process, which that bill would not provide.
If suspected terrorist get flagged for trying to buy a gun with no reason to not let them, they will know they are being watched.
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Ericus58 Sat, May 14, 2011 7:14:33am |
re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar
If suspected terrorist get flagged for trying to buy a gun with no reason to not let them, they will know they are being watched.
Interesting point, CCR.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 7:14:55am |
re: #111 BishopX
I'm sorry, but the terrorist watch lists specifically infringes on peoples 1st (assembly) and 4th amendment (search) rights and may very well infringe on peoples 6th amendment rights (the ability to confront an accuser). All without due process. So it's okay to infringe on people's rights as long as it's not their second amendment rights? If the watch lists lack due process, then fix the watch list.
If you get arrested on domestic violence charges your right to buy guns is restricted. You have about as much due process there as you do with your name showing up on a terror watch list. Why is one constitutional and the other not?
Because in order to keep your gun rights restricted, the legal system must convict you of actually have done what you were arrested for. So the case must go through due process, whereas no such facts apply with the watch list. I'm not a big fan of the domestic violence provisions myself, though there is a decent argument for them.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 7:15:20am |
re: #113 Dark_Falcon
They're just spouting off. They know that if they did that we'd cut off the aid money they're stealing.
At this point I'm annoyed that they even have to bluff about this shit. We should just move Pakistan onto the list of terrorist sponsoring governments. I'm fed up.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 7:15:28am |
re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar
If suspected terrorist get flagged for trying to buy a gun with no reason to not let them, they will know they are being watched.
True that.
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BishopX Sat, May 14, 2011 7:15:37am |
re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar
If suspected terrorist get flagged for trying to buy a gun with no reason to not let them, they will know they are being watched.
It would be easier for them to catch a flight. Same info.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:15:51am |
re: #118 Ericus58
Interesting point, CCR.
There was a guy interviewed on my radio a couple of weeks ago with this subject. Not hunting down the audio, though.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:16:33am |
re: #122 BishopX
It would be easier for them to catch a flight. Same info.
But trying to purchase a gun is different. As are the list.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 7:18:04am |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
At this point I'm annoyed that they even have to bluff about this shit. We should just move Pakistan onto the list of terrorist sponsoring governments. I'm fed up.
We can't do that, and you know why. they've got nukes, so we can't risk that government collapsing.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:19:52am |
re: #125 Dark_Falcon
We can't do that, and you know why. they've got nukes, so we can't risk that government collapsing.
And they will need our help, kinda like when the Taliban had an offensive that reached within 30 miles of their capitol.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:22:00am |
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Decatur Deb Sat, May 14, 2011 7:22:19am |
re: #60 freetoken
The traditional "Romance de Amor":
[Video]
It was used as the theme for the 50s French flick "Forbidden Games", which sounds very sexy, but was a delightful story of preschoolers surviving the chaos of the German occupation.
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BishopX Sat, May 14, 2011 7:23:20am |
re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar
We're talking about using the same lists for gun purchases as we do for the no-fly list. If you can buy a 300 dollar shotgun to see if your name pops you can just as easily get a 99 dollar flight. How are they different?
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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 7:23:24am |
re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar
Okay. I am sorry to hear that. I think. /
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Decatur Deb Sat, May 14, 2011 7:24:26am |
re: #109 RogueOne
Holy crap! Congrats! How much ass kissing did that cost you?///
Congratulations--now the Army wives think you outrank an 02.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:24:43am |
re: #130 BishopX
We're talking about using the same lists for gun purchases as we do for the no-fly list. If you can buy a 300 dollar shotgun to see if your name pops you can just as easily get a 99 dollar flight. How are they different?
The dude interviewed on my radio said it wasn't the same list. Trying to find a link.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 7:26:05am |
re: #116 rwdflynavy
The list was long and not so distinguished...
That's a seriously impressive achievement. Hopefully someone is buying the drinks. Colonel is what they would call you if you were cool and in the Army//. When I left the army that was the only goal left that was tempting not for the rank but the title. Even gadaffi knows being called "colonel" is cooler than "general".
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BishopX Sat, May 14, 2011 7:27:00am |
re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar
From Varek's link:
Nearly a decade after 9/11, the federal government can prevent suspects on terror watch lists from boarding an airplane but not from buying firearms. The Bush and Obama administrations both endorsed a bill that would close the gap, but Congress hasn’t acted.
I'm heading out, first for a run and then to to my grandfather's place in RI for dinner. I'll see you all tonight.
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mr.fusion Sat, May 14, 2011 7:35:48am |
FYI, Jon Stewart is heading to The Factor Monday night to debate the "Common Controversy." Should be interesting
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 7:36:09am |
Speaking of the last thread:
SWAT team raids house to enforce search warrent, shoot suspect 71 times.
[Link: azstarnet.com...]
Deputies serving a search warrant on Tucson’s south side shot and killed a 26-year-old man Tuesday morning after he fired a rifle at them, officials said.
...
Guerena fired his AR-15 rifle at the deputies who were holding up shields, Ogan said.Deputies fired back, killing Guerena, Ogan said.
Then they change their minds, Guerena hadn't fired a weapon:
[Link: www.kold.com...]
But nobody answered the front door, even after SWAT members identified themselves as law enforcement.
"That's standard protocol. They do it in both English and Spanish," Lt. O'Connor said. "They scream it out. They yell it out."
By this time, Guerena's wife and 4-year-old son were hiding in a bedroom closet.
Moments earlier, Vanessa Guerena saw a man outside her window carrying a gun. When she woke up her husband to tell him - that would be the last time she'd ever speak to him.
"The only thing that he told me, the last thing that he told me...'Vani, go into the closet with the kid. Go.'"
That's when Jose Guerena - a former Marine who served in Iraq - grabbed his assault rifle and headed for the living room.
Within seconds, the SWAT team knocked down the front door and saw Guerena standing immediately in front of them.
Vanessa and her child held their breath in a bedroom closet, as everything in their lives was about to change in an instant.
"What they (SWAT members) did see clearly is this guy went into a crouching position, almost on his knees, brought up an AR-15 assault rifle, pointed at the officers and said, 'I've got something for you,' O'Connor said, referencing Guerena's alleged remarks to the SWAT members.
"At that point, officers immediately began firing on him."
O'Connor said 72 rounds were fired by officers in just a matter of seconds.
and to bring it completely up-to-date, the wife was on the phone with 911:
[Link: azstarnet.com...]
The wife of a Tucson man killed in a Pima County SWAT raid May 5 pleaded for five minutes with 911 dispatchers to send an ambulance for her mortally wounded husband, audio records show.Often through tears and sometimes in broken English, Vanessa Guerena, tells 911 operators that her husband had been shot by a "bunch of people" who opened the door of their southwest-side home and "just shoot him." Meanwhile, dispatchers worked to determine if she was calling from a house where the SWAT team was serving a search warrant, audio released Friday by Drexel Heights Fire Department reveals
As of this point the police haven't released any info on the warrant or what, if anything, they found.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 7:37:12am |
re: #103 rwdflynavy
Thank you for your service, Cappie!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 7:37:26am |
re: #136 mr.fusion
FYI, Jon Stewart is heading to The Factor Monday night to debate the "Common Controversy." Should be interesting
He and O'Reilly have been talking past each other for days on that issue. I'm glad they'll be face-to-face on Monday. Next time it'll be O'Reilly on The Daily Show, since they alternate.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 7:40:50am |
re: #103 rwdflynavy
Good Morning Lizards!
I found out yesterday that the Navy selected me for Captain!
Which stinks, seeing that you're an Admiral now!!!
///
Seriously ,, BIG congrats!!
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Decatur Deb Sat, May 14, 2011 7:42:55am |
re: #141 sattv4u2
Which stinks, seeing that you're an Admiral now!!!
///
Seriously ,, BIG congrats!!
We had a joke in SETAF:
"What's the fastest way to make E4?"
"Be an E7 in the 69th Ordnance."
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:43:02am |
re: #141 sattv4u2
Which stinks, seeing that you're an Admiral now!!!
///
Seriously ,, BIG congrats!!
Heh.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 7:44:52am |
re: #142 Decatur Deb
We had a joke in SETAF:
"What's the fastest way to make E4?"
"Be an E7 in the 69th Ordnance."
Fastest way to start a business and become a millionaire in a year
Start with 3 million
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Decatur Deb Sat, May 14, 2011 7:46:22am |
re: #144 sattv4u2
Farmer on the phone to his wife:
"Honey, I just won the Powerball. We can afford to farm for another 10 years!"
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:50:09am |
I just got an email from a friend asking me if I buy the Bin Laden killing. Oy.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 7:50:55am |
re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar
Someone thinks he is alive?
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Political Atheist Sat, May 14, 2011 7:51:11am |
re: #103 rwdflynavy
Good Morning Lizards!
I found out yesterday that the Navy selected me for Captain!
Congratulations. Always good to hear great news like that.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 7:52:14am |
re: #147 PhillyPretzel
Someone thinks he is alive?
No, apparently he died in 2001 from liver failure. If anyone around here is gonna die of liver failure, it best be me!
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 7:52:38am |
re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar
I just got an email from a friend asking me if I buy the Bin Laden killing. Oy.
Tell him no need to buy it
The gov't provided it for free
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Romantic Heretic Sat, May 14, 2011 7:53:59am |
re: #103 rwdflynavy
Good Morning Lizards!
I found out yesterday that the Navy selected me for Captain!
Congratulations. :)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 7:58:03am |
re: #150 sattv4u2
Tell him no need to buy it
The gov't provided it for
freeeleventy gazillion dollars
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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 7:58:43am |
re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
LOL. But unfortunately true. :(
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Renaissance_Man Sat, May 14, 2011 7:58:46am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
As it happens, Mike Quigley is my parent's congressman, whom my father actually voted for (at my urging, since the few local Republicans had ignored the wise advice of the Chicago Tribune editorial board and nominated a joke candidate). But I don't agree with on this. We've already seen the terrorist watch list fail badly, and name true innocents (i.e. children) as terrorists. Given that, I'm not fond of the idea of it being a firearms ban list. Airline travel is one thing, but owning a gun is explicitly protected by the Constitution. It is a right that cannot be taken away without due process, which that bill would not provide.
For someone who is so concerned about terror and terrorists that you believe they should be executed secretly without process, your concern for the due process for firearm rights for persons of terror concern is incongruous.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:00:06am |
re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
And Disney will profit from the name. This could be a franchise movie name, SeAL Team 6.
[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]
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Political Atheist Sat, May 14, 2011 8:00:38am |
BTW thanks to all of you who put the hilarity in the Bin Laden joke page. I had several of my friends reading through. Made for a very fun Friday evening. My pal Leftwingconspirator even made a rare entry. LGF has a few new lurkers as a result methinks.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 14, 2011 8:02:25am |
Yucko... have a full shift today... 10:45 to 6:15 pm... busiest park of the day. Most of my shifts are piddle 4-5 hour shifts, peppered throughout the week to make around 20 hours... 7 hours at a register in a grocery store is harder than it looks. I know we got some cashiers that are in their 60's and it makes me wonder how they manage cashiering 40 hours a week.
Gotta give them credit.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:03:49am |
re: #157 Walter L. Newton
Yucko... have a full shift today... 10:45 to 6:15 pm... busiest park of the day. Most of my shifts are piddle 4-5 hour shifts, peppered throughout the week to make around 20 hours... 7 hours at a register in a grocery store is harder than it looks. I know we got some cashiers that are in their 60's and it makes me wonder how they manage cashiering 40 hours a week.
Gotta give them credit.
The 60 YO people prolly don't sit around their computers all day, blogging. Just sayin'.
/
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 8:03:49am |
re: #157 Walter L. Newton
Yucko... have a full shift today... 10:45 to 6:15 pm... busiest park of the day. Most of my shifts are piddle 4-5 hour shifts, peppered throughout the week to make around 20 hours... 7 hours at a register in a grocery store is harder than it looks. I know we got some cashiers that are in their 60's and it makes me wonder how they manage cashiering 40 hours a week.
Gotta give them credit.
Just knowing that they have a chance to possibly work with you is encouragement enough!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:05:57am |
re: #159 sattv4u2
Just knowing that they have a chance to possibly work with you is encouragement enough!
I bet they call him Sunshine. Or whippersnapper.
/
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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:07:41am |
Mornin' lacerti...my wife's got me thinking I need this corvette for going to the store...it does come with an integrated drink holder. And it is a Schwinn.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 14, 2011 8:08:40am |
re: #159 sattv4u2
Just knowing that they have a chance to possibly work with you is encouragement enough!
Up ding, down ding... that is the question?
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 8:09:29am |
Teenager is stirring from his cave
Stomach is growling
Dogs are restless
Gonna go make family breakfast with a couple of extra slices of bacon for Einstein and McDuff (the pooches)
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 8:10:23am |
re: #154 Renaissance_Man
For someone who is so concerned about terror and terrorists that you believe they should be executed secretly without process, your concern for the due process for firearm rights for persons of terror concern is incongruous.
?. Is that pc code I'm not getting? "Persons of terror"="Differently-abled Zealot"
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 8:11:10am |
re: #161 darthstar
Mornin' lacerti...my wife's got me thinking I need this corvette for going to the store...it does come with an integrated drink holder. And it is a Schwinn.
Needs a basket to hold your newspaper and donuts.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 8:11:33am |
re: #162 Walter L. Newton
Up ding, down ding... that is the question?
I probably deserve a down, but i'm so damn cute!
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 14, 2011 8:11:45am |
re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar
The 60 YO people prolly don't sit around their computers all day, blogging. Just sayin'.
/
No... I was being polite. The folks I was referencing are much less physically fit than I am and some suffer from back and knee problems (typical of retail workers)... yet they trudge on... like I said, got to give them credit.
I'm 58, semi-active, go tot he gym a few times a week, hike and walk during the summer, yet a 7 hour shift beats me up.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 8:11:59am |
re: #161 darthstar
Mornin' lacerti...my wife's got me thinking I need this corvette for going to the store...it does come with an integrated drink holder. And it is a Schwinn.
Be careful! We don't want you to be "Gone with the Schwinn!"
-Nod's to Kermit
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:12:01am |
re: #165 RogueOne
Needs a basket to hold your
newspaper and donuts.6 pack and ice.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 14, 2011 8:13:53am |
re: #157 Walter L. Newton
The requirement for food and shelter enables our "do what we gotta do" gene.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 8:14:24am |
re: #164 RogueOne
?. Is that pc code I'm not getting? "Persons of terror"="Differently-abled Zealot"
point is that their aversion to waterning down the 2nd amendment trumps their aversion to terrorists. say a lot about their mentality.
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Surabaya Stew Sat, May 14, 2011 8:14:45am |
re: #163 sattv4u2
Teenager is stirring from his cave
Stomach is growling
Dogs are restlessGonna go make family breakfast with a couple of extra slices of bacon for Einstein and McDuff (the pooches)
Anybody who feeds bacon to their dogs has to have a heart of gold.
:-)
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 14, 2011 8:16:00am |
re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The requirement for food and shelter enables our "do what we gotta do" gene.
Yep... sort of why I'm still doing it. Fourteen months ago, I said "This is not going to be a new career"... and now... "Welcome to Kroger... can I help you."
If it wasn't for the part time programming to tax my brain, and the part time jewelry crafting to satisfy the creative side, I'd go nuts.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:17:39am |
re: #171 ralphieboy
point is that their aversion to waterning down the 2nd amendment trumps their aversion to terrorists. say a lot about their mentality.
And if a terrorist who is a naturalized immigrant tries to buy a gun and can't, he'll know he's being watched. Think wire taps.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 8:19:28am |
Then they should let him buy the gun, just require the gun dealer to block the barrel so it backfires in the fellow's face
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:20:11am |
re: #175 ralphieboy
Then they should let him buy the gun, just require the gun dealer to block the barrel so it backfires in the fellow's face
/
Or a U shaped barrel. :)
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 8:20:34am |
re: #171 ralphieboy
point is that their aversion to waterning down the 2nd amendment trumps their aversion to
terroristspeople with the same name as a terrorist (or just close) and people who have broken no laws... say a lot about their mentality.
Having your name on a government list isn't reason alone to deny you your rights.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 8:21:06am |
K. Gotta get out and about. Enjoy the day people.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 8:21:54am |
re: #177 RogueOne
Having your name on a government list isn't reason alone to deny you your rights.
I gotta admit that I don't support it either, I am just surprised that the GOP does not like it, although I think they dislike it for different reasons.
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RogueOne Sat, May 14, 2011 8:22:01am |
re: #177 RogueOne
Having your name on a government list isn't reason alone to deny you your rights.
For future reference I should have bolded my addition to your quote to make clear it was an edit.
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Renaissance_Man Sat, May 14, 2011 8:27:49am |
re: #179 ralphieboy
I gotta admit that I don't support it either, I am just surprised that the GOP does not like it, although I think they dislike it for different reasons.
The lack of internal consistency is interesting. If the government says, 'This man is a terrorist', the appropriate response appears to be, 'don't waste time showing me evidence, shoot him in the head before he hurts a flag!'. However, if the government says 'this man may be a terrorist', the response now seems to be 'don't you dare come between a man and his gun'.
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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:30:10am |
re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar
Good point. A basket is a must have. She wants a basket for her bike, but really, I'm the one who needs that. I had a cheap ($15 at good will) cruiser in college with a basket...I always had beer (that made me quite popular in college).
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:31:29am |
re: #181 Renaissance_Man
The lack of internal consistency is interesting. If the government says, 'This man is a terrorist', the appropriate response appears to be, 'don't waste time showing me evidence, shoot him in the head before he hurts a flag!'. However, if the government says 'this man may be a terrorist', the response now seems to be 'don't you dare come between a man and his gun'.
No, once again, if someone is being watched you cannot tip your hand if there is no reason for said person not to buy a gun legally.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 8:32:12am |
Spoiler alert (sort of but not really)
Turret Opera / Cara Mia (Portal 2) - A Cappella
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 14, 2011 8:34:22am |
Alrighty, gotta run. See ya'll Mondayish.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, May 14, 2011 8:36:24am |
re: #183 Cannadian Club Akbar
No, once again, if someone is being watched you cannot tip your hand if there is no reason for said person not to buy a gun legally.
And if they know they cannot get on a plane, they also know they are being watched...consistency.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 8:41:50am |
re: #186 ralphieboy
And if they know they cannot get on a plane, they also know they are being watched...consistency.
I think the larger (earlier) point was the watch list for fliers was a crap shoot, at best
iirc, wasn't Senator Ted Kennedys name on it?
So making one just for gun purchases, how many mistakes will be on that list denying a legal law abiding citizen their right to buy one
I'm not advocating for or against this new list, just brigning the debate back to the genesis
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 8:42:27am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 8:48:21am |
Can't wait for my next trip "home" so I can go here
[Link: www.boston.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 14, 2011 8:52:49am |
re: #189 sattv4u2
Can't wait for my next trip "home" so I can go here
[Link: www.boston.com...]
Just the smell of seafood makes me want to vomit... I would throw a load before I got through the front door... oh, hope you enjoy the place if you get there.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 14, 2011 9:08:00am |
Work beckons... "Did you find everything you were looking for... do you need stamps, ice, land in Wyoming... thank you for shopping King Soopers..."
Yuck.
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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 9:23:57am |
re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar
Alrighty, gotta run. See ya'll Mondayish.
Weekend incarceration sucks. //
Enjoy your Saturday and Sunday, honco.
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Obdicut Sat, May 14, 2011 9:25:39am |
Discovered new webcomic that's pretty consistently good.
[Link: www.amazingsuperpowers.com...]
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Lidane Sat, May 14, 2011 10:03:03am |
That sound you hear is Newt's desperation:
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Obdicut Sat, May 14, 2011 10:05:26am |
re: #195 Lidane
He also called Obama a 'food-stamp president'. Whatever the hell that means. Other than "He's black!"
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Lidane Sat, May 14, 2011 10:08:52am |
re: #196 Obdicut
He also called Obama a 'food-stamp president'. Whatever the hell that means. Other than "He's black!"
Yeah, I don't get that either. Of course, I don't speak wingnut, so those dog whistles are lost on me.
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Winny Spencer Sat, May 14, 2011 10:10:22am |
Did anyone catch Mittens' health care speech?
Thoughts?
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allegro Sat, May 14, 2011 10:10:44am |
re: #197 Lidane
Yeah, I don't get that either. Of course, I don't speak wingnut, so those dog whistles are lost on me.
That food stamp president comment isn't a racist dog whistle, it's a bullhorn. Then there's this...
Last year, he suggested U.S. Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor was a racist, said Obama is best understood by his "Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior," and argued that placing a mosque near ground zero in New York City was akin to placing a Nazi sign next to the Holocaust Museum.
What a guy.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 14, 2011 10:24:21am |
I hear Osama didn't just like porn, he also is a fan of Taliban Dancing With the Stars. His favorite is the lovely Brooke Burka.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 10:30:47am |
re: #200 _RememberTonyC
I hear Osama didn't just like porn, he also is a fan of Taliban Dancing With the Stars. His favorite is the lovely Brooke Burka.
I thought he favored Justin Bombelt!
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 14, 2011 10:32:30am |
Brooke and Justin would be a dynamite couple ...
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 10:37:04am |
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Political Atheist Sat, May 14, 2011 10:39:08am |
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Ericus58 Sat, May 14, 2011 10:42:53am |
Disney Trademarks “Seal Team 6″
[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]
"In a perfect example of a big media company looking to capitalize on current events, The Walt Disney Company has trademarked “Seal Team 6,” which also happens to be the name of the elite special forces team that killed Osama Bin Laden.
..........
Of course, for all we know Disney has been working on an animated feature about a team of anthropomorphic seals in search of adventure, but given the timing of the application that seems… unlikely."
Evan Walt wasn't this level of shrewd......
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Ericus58 Sat, May 14, 2011 10:46:21am |
Charlie Sheen Praises 'Two and a Half Men' Replacement Ashton Kutcher, Predicts Show's Doom Anyway
[Link: omg.yahoo.com...]
""Kutcher is a sweetheart and a brilliant comedic performer ... Oh wait, so am I!" the whacked-out warlock tells TMZ, making a backhanded dig at the 33-year-old actor.
........
"Enjoy planet Chuck, Ashton," snipes Sheen. "There is no air, laughter, loyalty, or love there.""
Heck, I'll have to watch some of that now that Sheen is out....
I love to read the notes that Chuck puts up at the end of his episodes, like on Big Bang Theory.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 10:50:40am |
re: #204 Rightwingconspirator
Do you suppose he liked blow up dolls?
"OMG" Dragon_Lady Heh.
Interesting place where they decided to put the males valve!!
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 10:52:46am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 14, 2011 10:54:07am |
And on that note, son needs to go practice driving
He needs 40 parental supervised hours behind the wheel before he can take his drivers test.
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zora Sat, May 14, 2011 11:00:34am |
re: #195 Lidane
Gingrich also blasted Obama as "the most successful food stamp president in modern American history."
what?
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Political Atheist Sat, May 14, 2011 11:02:15am |
re: #208 sattv4u2
She says Hello, but busy with her Orchid garden at the moment.
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zora Sat, May 14, 2011 11:02:36am |
re: #198 Winny Spencer
didn't hear it, but read about it. i think he's fucked. romneycare is just one more reason the wingnuts hate him. he still has "no apologies".
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 14, 2011 11:07:00am |
re: #209 sattv4u2
And on that note, son needs to go practice driving
He needs 40 parental supervised hours behind the wheel before he can take his drivers test.
Teach him some of your Boston driving techniques ...
| 214 |
Eclectic Infidel Sat, May 14, 2011 11:22:19am |
You know it's time to do dishes when you just had your cheerios breakfast from a 2.5 cup volume measure.
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wrenchwench Sat, May 14, 2011 11:23:20am |
re: #209 sattv4u2
And on that note, son needs to go practice driving
He needs 40 parental supervised hours behind the wheel before he can take his drivers test.
Better take a sandwich.
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Stanghazi Sat, May 14, 2011 11:27:04am |
Check out the cover of the NYPost on Osama's porn
haha, and good morning (I slept in, west coast time!)
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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 11:32:22am |
re: #216 Stanley Sea
Check out the cover of the NYPost on Osama's porn
haha, and good morning (I slept in, west coast time!)
"Debbie does Abbotobad" - I had a feeling that title would pop up.
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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 11:36:29am |
re: #207 sattv4u2
Interesting place where they decided to put the males valve!!
re: #209 sattv4u2
And on that note, son needs to go practice driving
He needs 40 parental supervised hours behind the wheel before he can take his drivers test.
I see an opportunity to send the kid out driving without having to go yourself...just put a hat and glasses on the doll...preferably mirrored glasses and a police hat.
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