Here’s a truly stunning example of Fox News’s total lack of journalistic ethics — a vicious four-minute attack advertisement pretending to be news, on Fox & Friends.
The perfect follow-up: Jon Stewart’s opening segment from last night, with an epic rant about Roger Ailes.
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jaunte Wed, May 30, 2012 10:01:52am |
From the Fox narration: "We are becoming... a society.. that makes poverty more comfortable."
I guess the implied message there is that if you don't punish poor people, they're just going to voluntarily stay poor.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 10:05:12am |
re: #1 jaunte
From the Fox narration: "We are becoming... a society.. that makes poverty more comfortable."
I guess the implied message there is that if you don't punish poor people, they're just going to voluntarily stay poor.
Yet Fox has pundits that freak out at any suggested social spending that would help these people get out of poverty because that would be "handouts." As opposed to policies that coddle the very wealthy which are "sound policy."
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jaunte Wed, May 30, 2012 10:05:49am |
re: #2 HappyWarrior
Tithing to the job Creators is next to godliness.
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lawhawk Wed, May 30, 2012 10:07:34am |
Meanwhile, in a bit of News Corp related news, Andy Coulson, who worked as UK Prime Minister David Cameron's director of communications, was held by police in London (and transferred to Glasgow Scotland) investigating claims he committed perjury while working as a tabloid editor for Rupert Murdoch at News of the World.
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Obdicut Wed, May 30, 2012 10:07:35am |
re: #3 jaunte
Tithing to the job Creators is next to godliness.
Except the real job creators are the people who labor and invent. Capital, at best, enables labor to happen. It can't ever just replace it.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 30, 2012 10:11:15am |
I noticed the Fox segment doesn't say anything about the 1% getting richer and richer. It's been a great 4 years for them!
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nines09 Wed, May 30, 2012 10:16:50am |
Fox News and the other talking head shows they foist off as "news" is reprehensible on so many levels it's stunning.
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Varek Raith Wed, May 30, 2012 10:24:07am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 30, 2012 10:24:52am |
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 10:25:18am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 30, 2012 10:27:09am |
Speaking of being a cowboy:
Image: i_feel_the_need_the_need_for_nontrivial_zeros_of_the_Riemann_zeta_function.png
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lawhawk Wed, May 30, 2012 10:39:33am |
re: #10 HappyWarrior
Nothing in the Constitution prohibits a cyborg (or toaster) from being president. Just because they have a little computerization and programming built in doesn't preclude them from the WH. /
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makeitstop Wed, May 30, 2012 10:40:01am |
That is unbelievable.
There used to be a phrase - 'payment in kind.' And in politics, it used to be a serious breach of ethics.
I guess that doesn't apply any more, because there's no one who will try to prosecute Fox for this.
Spit.
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 10:40:14am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 30, 2012 10:41:29am |
Cheap bastard
Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch
He may be worth $20 billion, but when Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg took his new wife to lunch during their secret honeymoon in Rome he spent just 32 euros (£26) – and did not leave a tip.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 30, 2012 10:41:45am |
re: #14 Kragar
Do you have proof he wasn't born a unicorn?
Just asking questions.
I don't have any proof he wasn't born a leprechaun.
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Obdicut Wed, May 30, 2012 10:44:20am |
re: #17 Obdicut
You generally don't tip in Italy.
Edit: This may have changed in the intervening fifteen-odd years since I was last there.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 10:44:38am |
re: #17 Obdicut
You generally don't tip in Italy.
I seem to recall from my first time in Europe that there are in fact some nations where it's considered rude to tip.
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Decatur Deb Wed, May 30, 2012 10:45:19am |
re: #17 Obdicut
You generally don't tip in Italy.
Because the commies require that waitresses get paid like real people.
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Simply Sarah Wed, May 30, 2012 10:45:29am |
re: #18 Obdicut
Edit: This may have changed in the intervening fifteen-odd years since I was last there.
It really depends on the establishment these days. Tipping is still largely an American concept, but the idea has been able to spread a bit elsewhere.
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 10:45:47am |
Porn video shot on Coliseum grounds
The Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum field is the place where the USC Trojans play football, two Summer Olympics were staged, John F. Kennedy accepted the Democratic presidential nomination and Pope John Paul II celebrated Mass.
It was also a location for "The Gangbang Girl #32," a hard-core pornographic movie that featured 40 minutes of group sex on the gridiron turf, The Times has learned.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 10:48:15am |
Okay, I read the article. Seems they expected him to tip. I really don't get those who don't tip. As my cousin who works in the restaurant industry says, if you don't want to tip, you really shouldn't bother going out to eat. I try to tip generously. I don't make a ton as I intern but I stll try/.
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Interesting Times Wed, May 30, 2012 10:48:36am |
Not content to merely be environment-destroying douchebags, ExxonMobil takes up anti-gay bigotry as well:
ExxonMobil Shareholders Overwhelmingly Defeat LGBT Protections
Today, 80 percent of ExxonMobil shareholders voted not to extend non-discrimination protections based on sexual orientation and gender identity. This was one of the largest defeats the proposal has met since it was first introduced in 1999.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 30, 2012 10:48:43am |
Maybe they assumed that rich Americans would not know not to to tip and would leave a tip.
I would rather we stopped tipping and just built the cost of a decent wage into the meal.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 30, 2012 10:48:59am |
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 10:49:14am |
re: #25 Mostly sane, most of the time.
I would rather we stopped tipping and just built the cost of a decent wage into the meal.
Definitely agree with that.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 30, 2012 10:51:44am |
re: #25 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Maybe they assumed that rich Americans would not know not to to tip and would leave a tip.
I would rather we stopped tipping and just built the cost of a decent wage into the meal.
In my previous 17 years in the restaurant biz the waitresses were paid less than the cooks but adding the tips they ended up making much much more.
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 10:52:36am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 30, 2012 10:54:14am |
re: #29 Kragar
Still researching that.
Publish the results, with graphs and pictures, when you're done.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 30, 2012 10:54:41am |
re: #24 Interesting Times
Not content to merely be environment-destroying douchebags and plunderers of wealth, ExxonMobil takes up anti-gay bigotry as well:
ExxonMobil Shareholders Overwhelmingly Defeat LGBT Protections
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 10:55:32am |
re: #30 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)
Publish the results, with graphs and pictures, when you're done.
I would, but difficult to research the subject properly from work for some reason.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 30, 2012 10:58:54am |
According to Hot Air, Fox news has pulled the ad..
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Varek Raith Wed, May 30, 2012 11:02:47am |
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 30, 2012 11:03:27am |
Kind of interesting: Ed Morrisey seems to think this is a bridge too far even for Fox
Should a news organization produce and publish attack ads like this? I know the initial response will be that other news organizations offer biased perspectives and hagiographies of Obama that go well beyond a single video … and that response is entirely valid. However, we usually criticize that kind of behavior with other news organizations, too. If anyone wanted to look for evidence that the overall Fox News organization intends to campaign against Obama rather than cover the campaign, this video would be difficult to refute as evidence for that claim.
Of course, that doesn’t mean that outside groups and the Romney campaign shouldn’t consider producing something like this on their own. It makes a pretty powerful argument against another four years of Barack Obama, but that shouldn’t be the job of news-reporting organizations, even when we like the message.
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jhrhv Wed, May 30, 2012 11:03:32am |
re: #20 Decatur Deb
When I was in England I left a tip at the bar at the Cricket match. About an hour later the bartender finds me in the stand and says you forgot your change. I said it was a tip keep it. He thanked me and left.
After he was gone the people around me turned to me and said you're setting a bad example.
I still can't believe that guy spent an hour looking for me to give me back something like 2 bucks.
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Lidane Wed, May 30, 2012 11:03:42am |
re: #6 Learned Mother of Zion
I noticed the Fox segment doesn't say anything about the 1% getting richer and richer. It's been a great 4 years for them!
Oh, but they might have to pay taxes. And poor people are alive, which brings down their portfolio values. The horror!
Clearly, the 1% are overwhelmed by the "drift" in this country. =P
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 11:04:12am |
Senate Candidate Hoekstra: Create A National Birther Office
Former Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), who is running for Senate to take on Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow, told a tea party town hall last month that the federal government should establish an official committee to review presidential candidates’ birth certificates.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 11:04:53am |
re: #35 Varek Raith
Uh secular government leads to religious government. Is this idiot seriously arguing that? If Sharia ever comes, it will be because of idiots like Moore who want to blur the separation of church and state.
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makeitstop Wed, May 30, 2012 11:05:55am |
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 30, 2012 11:06:20am |
It's also interesting that although opinion in the comments is divided over at Hot Air, a lot people seem to think it's a bad idea.
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 11:08:15am |
re: #40 HappyWarrior
Uh secular government leads to religious government. Is this idiot seriously arguing that? If Sharia ever comes, it will be because of idiots like Moore who want to blur the separation of church and state.
Newt started it.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 11:09:14am |
re: #43 Kragar
Newt started it.
Yeah he did. Really. It makes no goddamn sense. And someone as educated as Newt is knows better than to spread that bs but Newt doesn't care because Newt's a craven ass.
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 11:10:09am |
“I was speaking with one of these business owners who owns a couple of restaurants in town,” Romney said. “And he said ‘You know I’d like to change the Constitution, I’m not sure I can do it,’ he said. ‘I’d like to have a provision in the Constitution that in addition to the age of the president and the citizenship of the president and the birthplace of the president being set by the Constitution, I’d like it also to say that the president has to spend at least three years working in business before he could become president of the United States.‘”
Romney continued: “You see then he or she would understand that the policies they’re putting in place have to encourage small business, make it easier for business to grow.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 11:12:03am |
re: #45 Kragar
Oh enough of the business experience is everything crap, Mitt. Oh and that would have disqualified Washington, Adams, and Jefferson too. Mitt's not that smart is he?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, May 30, 2012 11:15:26am |
re: #45 Kragar
I’d like it also to say that the president has to spend at least three years working in business
OK, but they also should have a PhD, not be a religious fundamentalist, speak at least 4 languages.and travel to at least 20 countries throughout their life.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 11:16:16am |
Actually Mitt's ideal amendment would disqualify alot of people including Reagan. It's stupid. Conservatives complain about liberals thinking only government knows best. Well Mitt is showing a conservative flaw that seems to think only business knows best which is nonsense. Understanding business is important but understanding government also is and many of these businessmen do not understand government.
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S'latch Wed, May 30, 2012 11:17:56am |
Are effective campaign advertisements supposed to give you a throbbing headache? If so, this one was effective!
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 11:18:57am |
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 11:20:31am |
re: #51 Obdicut
Both Roosevelts, I think.
Right, TR has been NY's governor and asst sec of the Navy. Same thing with FDR really. I believe in between FDR's time as asst naval secretary and governor of NY, he practiced law. Romney's just being stupid. Would love for Obama's camp to point out that his stupid proposed amendment would disqualify Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan especially given their worship of him. Hell turn it into Romney hates Ronald Reagan. Romney's contempt for anyone not in the corporate world needs to be called out for the crap it is.
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Obdicut Wed, May 30, 2012 11:22:23am |
re: #53 Kragar
Grant.
No, Grant had some general store or something that went bankrupt. So, experience.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 30, 2012 11:24:14am |
Another politician creep arrested...
NJ Mayor Arrested for Hacking Account Tied to His Recall
Felix Roque, the Democratic mayor of West New York, N.J., and his 22-year-old son Joseph were arrested by the FBI last Thursday on suspicion of hacking into a website dedicated to having Roque recalled and intimidating the people who set it up.
The father and son allegedly hacked the email account associated with the website, Recallroque.com in February, and then nixed the domain registration in an effort to muzzle an insurgent political campaign to oust the mayor.
Where did they get their hacking skills? The internet, apparently.
“Joseph Roque learned how to hack email accounts and GoDaddy.com, a domain registration company, by searching the Internet, according to a criminal complaint unsealed after the arrests,” reports Politico.
But the hacking was just the beginning. Roque allegedly called individuals involved in the website telling them that “everyone would pay for getting involved against Mayor Roque.”
According to the complaint, he told “Victim 1,” a government official in Hudson County, N.J., that the site had been dismantled by “high government officials,” and that he had risked making powerful enemies: “A friend of mine. He works in the — I can’t tell you — three letters — CIA. You know. That’s how I get information. So what I’m doing is not very kosher.”
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lawhawk Wed, May 30, 2012 11:26:06am |
re: #54 HappyWarrior
And then there are the GOP candidates that would have been disqualified by Romney's proposed inane rule. Newt didn't go into business. He went to academia and then politics.
Huckabee was a pastor/evangelist before going into politics.
Santorum? Attorney.
And you know what they say about lawyers? They have no business sense. Just ask Dewey Ballentine.
Then there are those who had distinguished careers outside business - think Eisenhower (whose military service included commanding millions under combined arms in WWII). Same thing goes for some of the early presidents - whose credentials were earned in military service - not business.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 11:26:23am |
Our only MBA president wasn't exactly a great economic builder. Romney can talk about the virtues of business experience all he wants but ultimately what matters is the kind of person. Abraham Lincoln was a one term Congressman who led the nation in a Civil War. James Buchanan had practically the perfect resume but yet he's probably the worst in history.
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 11:26:37am |
re: #55 Obdicut
No, Grant had some general store or something that went bankrupt. So, experience.
It wasn't for 3 years though.
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 11:27:41am |
re: #57 lawhawk
And then there are the GOP candidates that would have been disqualified by Romney's proposed inane rule. Newt didn't go into business. He went to academia and then politics.
Huckabee was a pastor/evangelist before going into politics.
Santorum? Attorney.
And you know what they say about lawyers? They have no business sense. Just ask Dewey Ballentine.
Then there are those who had distinguished careers outside business - think Eisenhower (whose military service included commanding millions under combined arms in WWII). Same thing goes for some of the early presidents - whose credentials were earned in military service - not business.
Hell look at Reagan. Guy was an actor before he was California's governor and his only real experience with business before that I think was doing commercials for GE.
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lawhawk Wed, May 30, 2012 11:30:11am |
re: #60 HappyWarrior
He was the president of the SAG (a union). That would give him business experience.
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Kragar Wed, May 30, 2012 11:31:03am |
re: #61 lawhawk
He was the president of the SAG (a union). That would give him business experience.
Unions don't count!
/
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 30, 2012 11:34:01am |
re: #61 lawhawk
He was the president of the SAG (a union). That would give him business experience.
Yeah that's right but heh as Kragar just said it was a union. Anyhow, here's my bet, Romney was talking out of his ass to discredit Obama and totally ignoring the fact that his idea would disqualify most of our presidents including our best.
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leftynyc Wed, May 30, 2012 11:35:31am |
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Decider Wed, May 30, 2012 5:02:59pm |
I would imagine that even Mitt Romney is embarrassed by Fox News.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, May 30, 2012 5:09:35pm |
re: #65 Decider
I would imagine that even Mitt Romney is embarrassed by Fox News.
Please. Has that man ever showed any shame or embarrassment over anything? He spent the night get clinched the GOP nomination with King Birther, Donald Trump.
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Petero1818 Wed, May 30, 2012 7:43:32pm |
re: #15 NJDhockeyfan
Cheap bastard
Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch
except that it is not customary to tip after a meal in Italy. Italians typically do not do so. It is not expected. Some Italians leave small change that remains from the bill. Basically it suggests to me he is worldly enough to understand local custom and to apply it appropriately.
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Petero1818 Wed, May 30, 2012 7:46:27pm |
re: #23 HappyWarrior
Okay, I read the article. Seems they expected him to tip. I really don't get those who don't tip. As my cousin who works in the restaurant industry says, if you don't want to tip, you really shouldn't bother going out to eat. I try to tip generously. I don't make a ton as I intern but I stll try/.
They only expected him to tip because he was an American tourist and this restaurant does a brisk tourist business. But again, in Italy tipping is rare and not expected. waiters are paid a wage as if there is no tipping, unlike in the US where tips form a large part of the waiter's expected earnings.
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CriticalDragon1177 Wed, May 30, 2012 10:26:43pm |
Charles Johnson,
To think I once had such respect for Fox News. At one time it was the news channel I watched the most. Now I have more respect for John Stewart of the Daily Show, and he's a comedian. Well at least no one will claim that he's completely fair and balanced. Its obvious based on that one story on "Fox and Friends" that FOX News is not only biased, it doesn't even really try not to be, even through it claims to be "fair and balanced." John Stewart is correct about Fox News being a right wing propaganda machine.
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