Tonight, former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky has been found guilty in 45 of 48 counts of child sexual abuse.
Who knows how many more children were abused by this monster?
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Big Joe Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:38:20pm |
Good, now lets seriously go after pedophile priests and their protectors.
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jaunte Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:39:14pm |
His defense attorney now complaining that the judge rushed the case.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:40:19pm |
re: #1 Big Joe
Good, now lets seriously go after pedophile priests and their protectors.
Why do you hate religion?
/
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:41:49pm |
re: #2 jaunte
His defense attorney now complaining that the judge rushed the case.
How many decades had the sick fuck been able to molest kids?
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:42:50pm |
re: #2 jaunte
His defense attorney now complaining that the judge rushed the case.
Yeah, he needed more time to convince the jury that all the victims who've come forward were in it for money, that he's such a good and decent guy, and it's so wrong to put him on trial because it makes the spirit of JoePa sad.
Were I this dipshit, considering his performance in this trial, I'd look for a new line of work.
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:43:04pm |
Good...I hope the sonofabitch dies in jail. I feel bad for Sandusky's family, but part of me hopes the victims take his assets, Penn State, and Second Mile for everything they can, because they deserve it.
If Paterno and Penn State had done their fucking job in 1998, how many kids would have been saved from his abuse?
Paterno got off relatively easy in all of this...
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:43:52pm |
And this was the friendliest jury he could've hoped for, too.
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Iwouldprefernotto Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:46:28pm |
It's good to see that the justice system can work with a high profile case.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:46:42pm |
And just in case you forgot, the title of Sandusky's 2001 autobiography was "Touched"...
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:47:39pm |
re: #9 Iwouldprefernotto
It's good to see that the justice system can work with a high profile case.
Well, this case was particularly clear and the criminal extremely unsympathetic.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:49:42pm |
Am I sexually attracted to underage boys? Sexually attracted? You know, I enjoy young people. I, I love to be around them. I, I... But no, I'm not sexually attracted to young boys.
16.3 seconds to get to "no."
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:54:58pm |
For some reason, I keep remembering...
"A courtesy for a gentleman."
*CLICK*
"You didn't think I would make it that easy for you?"
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:55:49pm |
re: #13 b_sharp
His penis tells a different story.
The law really should provide for removal of that organ in cases like this. Sandusky used his penis to violate several people, and as a consequence it seems just to me that he lose it.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:56:20pm |
re: #2 jaunte
His defense attorney now complaining that the judge rushed the case.
He had his time. If he decided to piss it away on arguments that were unconvincing, that's his problem. The fact that his client was guilty as hell probably doesn't help, though.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:57:07pm |
re: #13 b_sharp
His penis tells a different story.
I'd need a microscope to read anything written on such a small surface, so no thanks.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:57:40pm |
re: #14 Kragar
For some reason, I keep remembering...
"A courtesy for a gentleman."
*CLICK*
"You didn't think I would make it that easy for you?"
Just to mix up the movies a little:
"Yeah, for a second there, a kinda did."
"Silly rabbit..."
"Trix..."
both: "are for kids."
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JamesWI Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:59:21pm |
re: #5 Targetpractice
Yeah, he needed more time to convince the jury that all the victims who've come forward were in it for money, that he's such a good and decent guy, and it's so wrong to put him on trial because it makes the spirit of JoePa sad.
Were I this dipshit, considering his performance in this trial, I'd look for a new line of work.
Not to mention his pre-trial strategy, of allowing Sandusky to perform the creepiest interview in the history of interviews.
Seriously....this guy was the best lawyer Sandusky could afford?
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 7:59:28pm |
re: #14 Kragar
For some reason, I keep remembering...
"A courtesy for a gentleman."
*CLICK*
"You didn't think I would make it that easy for you?"
"I have to report to The Boss. Perhaps you'd like to avoid the red tape?"
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erik_t Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:00:08pm |
I'm glad I wasn't a Penn State student a few years back, because god knows I'd have been at the Paterno memorialstatuething. Not in support, not in defiance, just with a soon-to-be-consumed fifth. I strongly believe that the sense of community associated with college sports is a generally-positive effect, especially for non-local students. However, that sense of community is unfortunately corruptible just as a sense of family can be, and in this case that sense of community facilitated the rape of dozens of boys. The assurance of 'my-valued-hierarchy could never have done something so heinous' does not help matters.
I'm glad I wasn't put in the position of instantly determining exactly where the culpability ended, because I know I would have made a poor choice.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:00:15pm |
I feel great pity for the victims, their families, and Sandusky's family.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:01:31pm |
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
No, that is "an eye for an eye" justice, and I truly believe that as a convicted pedophile, he will suffer worse in prison.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:02:11pm |
re: #22 Dancing along the light of day
I feel great pity for the victims, their families, and Sandusky's family.
I feel no pity for his wife. There isn't enough credulity in the world for me to believe that she didn't enable his behavior.
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JamesWI Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:02:46pm |
re: #24 Dancing along the light of day
No, that is "an eye for an eye" justice, and I truly believe that as a convicted pedophile, he will suffer worse in prison.
And that is supporting the idea of "a rape (or a hundred) for a rape." Not exactly honorable, either.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:03:22pm |
re: #24 Dancing along the light of day
No, that is "an eye for an eye" justice, and I truly believe that as a convicted pedophile, he will suffer worse in prison.
It's not just eye for an eye justice, it's fucking pathological and disgusting.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:03:40pm |
re: #20 Targetpractice
"I have to report to The Boss. Perhaps you'd like to avoid the red tape?"
Well, at least Khrushchev gave the general a Tokarev. A Nagat revolver might not have killed him, even with a head shot.
/Kidding, mostly. The 7.62mm Nagat revolver cartridge was pathetically weak. The British .380 revolver round of WWII was twice the weight of the Nagat and had a higher muzzle velocity, just to give one example.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:04:41pm |
re: #27 goddamnedfrank
It's not just eye for an eye justice, it's fucking pathological and disgusting.
How is it "pathological"?
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:05:14pm |
re: #27 goddamnedfrank
It's not just eye for an eye justice, it's fucking pathological and disgusting.
Especially when you consider that his man will never be able to threaten anyone ever again yeah, I fail to see to point.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:06:07pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
How is it "pathological"?
Hey man, you chose to hit the post button on advocacy of genital mutilation. Own it.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:07:03pm |
re: #19 JamesWI
Not to mention his pre-trial strategy, of allowing Sandusky to perform the creepiest interview in the history of interviews.
Seriously...this guy was the best lawyer Sandusky could afford?
In a way tho, the lawyer had no chance. Sandusky was a predator through & through. Imagine the sick sex fuck that adopts his victim. To keep him. GAH
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:07:33pm |
re: #31 goddamnedfrank
Hey man, you chose to hit the post button on advocacy of genital mutilation. Own it.
I usually have to pay women good money for that...
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:07:39pm |
re: #22 Dancing along the light of day
I feel great pity for the victims, their families, and Sandusky's family.
Yes, but can you really believe that his wife at least knew nothing?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:07:47pm |
And on a lighter note, OT, check out the sliver of a new moon in the sky.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:07:59pm |
re: #31 goddamnedfrank
Hey man, you chose to hit the post button on advocacy of genital mutilation. Own it.
Of a convicted child molester with numerous victims. It's not something I'd push for, but how do you get 'pathological' from that? Or do you just have rage goggles on tonight?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:08:58pm |
re: #34 Achilles Tang
I have no idea whether his wife knew anything or not. She may have chosen to turn a blind eye, or been completely blindsided by this.
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erik_t Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:09:26pm |
re: #34 Achilles Tang
Yes, but can you really believe that his wife at least knew nothing?
I can believe it to the degree that I would not wish to levy punishment against her, a claim that generally involves tiny-fractions-of-doubt in the legal realm. I see no reason to hold her to a stricter standard than her ([redacted] foul) husband.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:09:44pm |
re: #32 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
In a way tho, the lawyer had no chance. Sandusky was a predator through & through. Imagine the sick sex fuck that adopts his victim. To keep him. GAH
It's got to be tough to be a lawyer for such a sleazebag. I mean, you're contractually obligated to do everything in your power to get this guy declared not guilty, despite knowing - whether a deep-down gut feeling based on the available evidence, or outright being told - that your client is guilty of being a sick perverted bastard. I couldn't do it, I would totally sandbag it and get disbarred.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:10:13pm |
re: #25 goddamnedfrank
I feel no pity for his wife. There isn't enough credulity in the world for me to believe that she didn't enable his behavior.
I love these young men Dottie, I so do!
Anyone sane would see the predatory love (she did)
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:10:31pm |
re: #36 Dark_Falcon
Of a convicted child molester with numerous victims. It's not something I'd push for, but how do you get 'pathological' from that? Or do you just have rage goggles on tonight?
Oh. So we should start removing thieves' hands now?
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JamesWI Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:12:06pm |
re: #37 Dancing along the light of day
I have no idea whether his wife knew anything or not. She may have chosen to turn a blind eye, or been completely blindsided by this.
Eh, the fact that one of their adopted sons has come out and said he was abused too, makes me HIGHLY skeptical of her "I know nothing" act.
I could see her not knowing if these were all just random kids she didn't know. But when she personally knew at least some of them, including knowing at least one of them so well that she adopted him.....yeah, I don't see how she could just not know.
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JamesWI Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:13:08pm |
re: #39 thedopefishlives
It's got to be tough to be a lawyer for such a sleazebag. I mean, you're contractually obligated to do everything in your power to get this guy declared not guilty, despite knowing - whether a deep-down gut feeling based on the available evidence, or outright being told - that your client is guilty of being a sick perverted bastard. I couldn't do it, I would totally sandbag it and get disbarred.
Or, you know.....not take the case that makes you look like the world's worst lawyer and someone willing to defend the scum of the Earth.
There's always that option. It's not like he was a public defender here.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:13:24pm |
re: #37 Dancing along the light of day
I have no idea whether his wife knew anything or not. She may have chosen to turn a blind eye, or been completely blindsided by this.
Considering how long it went on, I find it exceedingly hard to believe that she never saw the signs. That she'd have to be fairly dim not to raise questions to him about his behavior. But why she never did more, didn't come forward, I'm not sure. Wouldn't be surprised if she's one of those generational throwbacks who thinks it best to keep such things hidden, for fear that it would reflect negatively on herself.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:14:36pm |
re: #41 It's a cookbook!
Oh. So we should start removing thieves' hands now?
No. But what this man did was just so hideous that it makes one wish the law could physically punish him in such a way as to ensure he cannot ever do such a thing again. I know why the law does not allow that, but Sandusky is just so rotten I wish the law provided for a greater punishment than imprisonment.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:15:03pm |
re: #35 Dancing along the light of day
And on a lighter note, OT, check out the sliver of a new moon in the sky.
My favorite moon is the sliver. I call it that too. Go Mohammed and south Carolina and that defense dept that got riled! Whoo the moon!!!
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erik_t Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:15:06pm |
re: #44 Targetpractice
Considering how long it went on, I find it exceedingly hard to believe that she never saw the signs. That she'd have to be fairly dim not to raise questions to him about his behavior. But why she never did more, didn't come forward, I'm not sure. Wouldn't be surprised if she's one of those generational throwbacks who thinks it best to keep such things hidden, for fear that it would reflect negatively on herself.
Someday I'll tell y'all how long it took me to stop lying to myself about my mother's eating disorder. Hint: a LONG fucking time.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:16:30pm |
re: #44 Targetpractice
Considering how long it went on, I find it exceedingly hard to believe that she never saw the signs. That she'd have to be fairly dim not to raise questions to him about his behavior. But why she never did more, didn't come forward, I'm not sure. Wouldn't be surprised if she's one of those generational throwbacks who thinks it best to keep such things hidden, for fear that it would reflect negatively on herself.
Denial: It's not just a river in Egypt. Confirmation bias combined with blind faith and love in a person's integrity can lead to all sorts of selective memory.
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:16:33pm |
re: #37 Dancing along the light of day
I have no idea whether his wife knew anything or not. She may have chosen to turn a blind eye, or been completely blindsided by this.
Let me put it differently then; in either case it would have been less than the solid marriage presented to the public, but yes, I feel sorry for her too in either case.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:16:52pm |
re: #45 Dark_Falcon
No. But what this man did was just so hideous that it makes
oneDark_Falcon wish the law could physically punish him in such a way as to ensure he cannot ever do such a thing again. I know why the law does not allow that, but Sandusky is just so rotten I wish the law provided for a greater punishment than imprisonment.
Most of us are just fine knowing that this man will be locked up for the rest of his life with the minimum amount of contact with other human beings as possible. He won't be in genpop. He'll spend an unbelievable amount of the rest of his life alone.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:19:26pm |
re: #41 It's a cookbook!
Oh. So we should start removing thieves' hands now?
We blindly don't realize how close we are to that.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:20:06pm |
re: #47 erik_t
Someday I'll tell y'all how long it took me to stop lying to myself about my mother's eating disorder. Hint: a LONG fucking time.
I see what you're saying, and I can't deny that's probably the most likely answer. The capacity for denial is infinite in many people. Major part of the reason for battered person syndrome. And considering the official indifference even when caught in the act, I doubt she'd have been able to find a sympathetic ear in the town who would do anything more than pat her on the head and tell her that she simply must be imagining things.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:20:11pm |
re: #36 Dark_Falcon
Of a convicted child molester with numerous victims. It's not something I'd push for, but how do you get 'pathological' from that? Or do you just have rage goggles on tonight?
It's a sick thing to present as a joke, let alone in earnest. Sick, as in pathological, weird, aberrant, nasty, disgusting, indefensible. He could be the worst person in the world to ever exist and saying society should degrade itself by dehumanizing him on such a visceral, sexual level would still be very troubling.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:21:12pm |
re: #51 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
We blindly don't realize how close we are to that.
Well, I'm not sure I agree that we're that close to that. But such punishments would be obviously cruel and unusual. Someone who hearts the Constitution so much should realize that and accept that they are wrong.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:21:33pm |
I plead anger. Sometimes I just plain get pissed and spit out things like that. I keep them within the rules of LGF, but sometimes I still get nasty.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:22:24pm |
re: #55 Dark_Falcon
I plead anger. Sometimes I just plain get pissed and spit out things like that. I keep them within the rules of LGF, but sometimes I still get nasty.
Yikes. Those words could've been typed by PLL!
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:26:48pm |
re: #56 It's a cookbook!
Yikes. Those words could've been typed by PLL!
Yeah, they could have. I was more careful in my original post, and I'm never going to call more murder like that right wing asshole from the last thread, but I've said before that I know very well how PLL feels. I've just grown older and now have my anger under much better control than he does. But the control isn't total: Every once in a great while the demon gets loose of his cell, though he is never able to escape his prison building.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:30:53pm |
re: #57 Dark_Falcon
You won't find anyone on this board who thinks that this man isn't a monster. The punishment you describe would be just as monstrous.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:40:36pm |
re: #57 Dark_Falcon
In the last thread you minimized the benefit of increased reporting requirements for prison rape:
The question is: Will complicated federal reporting rules actually do much about it? The likely answer is 'no'. Normally such rules don't really effect matters, since really dealing with such rapes would require a massive culture shift inside prisons, which no politician is likely to really push for (such shifts are expensive and slow to achieve, and few politicos will run risks for such a thing).
FBI UCR statistics don't do much to lower crime by themselves, it's what's done with the data that matters. Having good data on the scope and specifics of the problem is kind of crucial to constructing an intelligent response. What I see you doing both there and here is basically saying that you're not interested in intelligent responses, and that despite the fact that it's Republicans above blocking the anti prison rape initiative you managed to assert without evidence that both sides are equally unlikely to push for a real solution.
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bratwurst Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:43:02pm |
So that's what "Nittany" means....— Harry Shearer (@theharryshearer) June 23, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:44:09pm |
re: #59 goddamnedfrank
I'll point out that what has happened was that the standards have been criticized, not 'blocked'. And they were criticized by a think-tank and a magazine, neither of them actually part of the Republican party.
Detail matter.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:46:45pm |
re: #42 JamesWI
Eh, the fact that one of their adopted sons has come out and said he was abused too, makes me HIGHLY skeptical of her "I know nothing" act.
I could see her not knowing if these were all just random kids she didn't know. But when she personally knew at least some of them, including knowing at least one of them so well that she adopted him...yeah, I don't see how she could just not know.
A smart pedophile finds ways to procure. Charaties, churches what ever. Predators find their way.
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Big Joe Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:48:01pm |
Only slightly off topic - Terrifying photo from vacation bible school.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:48:27pm |
re: #63 Big Joe
Only slightly off topic - Terrifying photo from vacation bible school.
What in the hell.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:49:16pm |
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:49:55pm |
re: #63 Big Joe
Only slightly off topic - Terrifying photo from vacation bible school.
I'll be having that tall glass of Brain Bleach now.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:52:14pm |
re: #63 Big Joe
Only slightly off topic - Terrifying photo from vacation bible school.
Poor girl on the right looks terrified, executing preemptive blocking maneuver.
Edit: photo right, creep dude's left.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:53:03pm |
re: #63 Big Joe
Only slightly off topic - Terrifying photo from vacation bible school.
What. The. Fuck?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:54:03pm |
re: #66 Targetpractice
I'll be having that tall glass of Brain Bleach now.
You need to pour the Brain Bleech in your ear, remember. Drinking it will kill you, since it's bleech after all.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:54:05pm |
re: #65 Kragar
You never saw the respect and obey song?
Clearly I went to the wrong vacation Bible school./
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erik_t Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:56:27pm |
re: #63 Big Joe
Only slightly off topic - Terrifying photo from vacation bible school.
LEAVE. FUCKING. ROOM. FOR. THE. HOLY. SPIRIT.
OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU MIGHT BELIEVE.
GODDAMN.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:56:51pm |
re: #70 thedopefishlives
Clearly I went to the wrong vacation Bible school./
R-E-S-P-E-C-T! Respect authority!
O-B-E-Y! Obey authority!
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:57:56pm |
re: #71 erik_t
LEAVE. FUCKING. ROOM. FOR. THE. HOLY. SPIRIT.
OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU MIGHT BELIEVE.
GODDAMN.
On the bright side, Cthulhu left behind his plans to destroy the world and has become a major player in Japanese fetish porn.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:58:12pm |
re: #69 Dark_Falcon
You need to pour the Brain Bleech in your ear, remember. Drinking it will kill you, since it's bleech after all.
After seeing that pic, I'm sticking with drinking it.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:58:14pm |
re: #54 It's a cookbook!
Well, I'm not sure I agree that we're that close to that. But such punishments would be obviously cruel and unusual. Someone who hearts the Constitution so much should realize that and accept that they are wrong.
We lost our shit after 911 to the point of bailing on the Geneva Conventions and created bullshit, made up law, where we were allowed to legally torture. I think precedence has been set for future 'retribution' under the law. This supreme ct would easily uphold.
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Big Joe Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:58:27pm |
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 8:58:33pm |
re: #74 Kragar
On the bright side, Cthulhu left behind his plans to destroy the world and has become a major player in Japanese fetish porn.
Let me guess, tentacle porn?
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:00:15pm |
re: #78 Targetpractice
Let me guess, tentacle porn?
I have no idea what you're talking about, but yes. He's even got product endorsements going.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:01:42pm |
re: #73 Big Joe
Ah, I found some context. Not real.
What happens in Eden stays in Eden?
re: #72 Kragar
R-E-S-P-E-C-T! Respect authority!
O-B-E-Y! Obey authority![Embedded content]
Seen it before, that really is one of the most soul crushing things ever. A healthy society would report those kid's parents for child abuse.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:01:47pm |
re: #79 Kragar
I have no idea what you're talking about, but yes. He's even got product endorsements going.
Ummm.... YIKES!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:02:34pm |
re: #63 Big Joe
Only slightly off topic - Terrifying photo from vacation bible school.
Omg these crazies. Really?
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:02:37pm |
re: #79 Kragar
I have no idea what you're talking about, but yes. He's even got product endorsements going.
...is it sad that I can honestly say I'm not surprised?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:06:11pm |
We need to get that scary pic out of our heads. Let's try something other than Freetoken's Kardashian posts tonight. I'll post some Mila Kunis pics and we'll see if they help.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:12:54pm |
Did someone say "Kardashian"?
Kris Jenner Explains Why She Let Kim Kardashian Have Sex at Age 14
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:16:57pm |
OK I'll just bitch that I'm reluctantly taking part (ie working for free) in a garage sale tomorrow - 6 a.m
Good night now!!!
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:18:19pm |
re: #85 freetoken
Did someone say "Kardashian"?
Kris Jenner Explains Why She Let Kim Kardashian Have Sex at Age 14
Dafuq?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:19:26pm |
re: #85 freetoken
Did someone say "Kardashian"?
Kris Jenner Explains Why She Let Kim Kardashian Have Sex at Age 14
[groan] I swear, that woman can turn scandal into PR opportunity in the blink of an eye.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:19:31pm |
Final note to the Sandusky jurors. I cannot imagine hearing those people's testimonies and ever getting a good nihts sleep. Ever again. You did your service.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:22:57pm |
re: #89 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012
Final note to the Sandusky jurors. I cannot imagine hearing those people's testimonies and ever getting a good nights sleep. Ever again. You did your service.
They shou;d be held up as a model for juries to follow.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:31:17pm |
Most of the time when I post a link to something from City Journal it is to praise that article or to recommend it as informative and insightful. This time is not 'most of the time'. This link is to a rather DERPy review of a book called Merchants of Despair: Radical Environmentalists, Criminal Pseudo-Scientists, and the Fatal Cult of Antihumanism, by Robert Zubrin by a fellow named Bruce Thornton, who previously published a book called "The Wages of Appeasement: Ancient Athens, Munich, and Obama’s America." Its worth a read, even if only to see non-Rabid DERP in action. It's overreaching but not hateful, instead just being wrong.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 9:54:17pm |
And now in move guaranteed to generate extreme controversy I'm just going to come right out and say it.
Mike was a much better host on MST3k than Joel.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 22, 2012 10:11:12pm |
re: #95 Kragar
Well, we could always imagine how both Mike and Joel would handle an MST3k version of Kim Kardashians infamous sex tape, to see if Mike really was better than Joel.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 10:13:22pm |
re: #96 freetoken
Well, we could always imagine how both Mike and Joel would handle an MST3k version of Kim Kardashians infamous sex tape, to see if Mike really was better than Joel.
Joel would come up with a stupid invention exchange, while Mike would make a Wisconsin joke.
I think that just about settles it.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 22, 2012 10:15:37pm |
re: #97 Kragar
Joel would come up with a stupid invention exchange, while Mike would make a Wisconsin joke.
I think that just about settles it.
Packers!
//
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 10:16:26pm |
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 22, 2012 10:18:28pm |
re: #92 Channeling Confucius
I saw this. The implications are a verbal, intellectual minefield to try to discuss. I had seen this and decided not to Page it. If this is correct dilemmas abound.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Editor's note: James Cantor, an associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto, is a psychologist and senior scientist at the Sexual Behaviors Clinic of the Center for Addiction and Mental Health. He is editor in chief of "Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment" and blogs at Sexology Today.
(CNN) -- One cannot choose to not be a pedophile, but one can choose to not be a child molester.
Recently, however, a number of studies have starting changing that view. It appears that one can be born with a brain predisposed to experience sexual arousal in response to children.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 22, 2012 10:47:50pm |
Though Sergey appears to be undercover doing gulag ops, in case there are others out there still interested in the Jesus-Myth arguments, Doherty's latest writeup delves into the Pauline story, and why Ehrman uses the conflict of the messiah being crucified as historical evidence.
However, I think Doherty errs, again, this time because he's not looking at the issue like a Jew. Doherty writes:
Ehrman points to Galatians 3:13 as an indication of the ‘offensiveness’ that would have been caused by those Jews adopting a crucified man as the messiah:
Christ bought us freedom from the curse of the law by becoming for our sake an accursed thing; for scripture says, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree” .
Ehrman links this ancient view with the Roman method of execution by crucifixion, thinking to cast light on why Paul was offended. But it would have been useful if anywhere in his letters Paul had actually spelled out that he had been offended by hearing that an historical man ‘cursed for being hanged on a tree’ was thought of as the messiah. It would have been useful had he anywhere even intimated that it was information like this which he had learned from the people he persecuted.
Certainly he [Paul] makes no such connection in Galatians 3:13. Neither does the writer of 1 Peter in 2:22-24 who speaks of Christ hanged on a tree while giving us, by way of ‘biography’ about that event, simply a paraphrase of verses from Isaiah 53.
Like so many English language people, Doherty is simply reading "Christ" as a name, but when Paul writes "Χριστὸς ἡμᾶς ἐξηγόρασεν ἐκ τῆς κατάρας τοῦ νόμου γενόμενος ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν κατάρα, ..." the better way to read it is "The Anointed redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse ..."
All one has to do is reflect on how a Jew would feel if The Anointed one was strung up on a Roman tree to discover if they would be offended or not.
Think about this: here you are in Roman occupied Judea in AD30-something, a faithful Jew and teacher of the law (a Pharisee by training), and while you might not be one of the Zealots or the hardcore ascetic Qumram community (or the related Essenes in case they are not the same), you are devout and a believer that there will be an Anointed one to deliver your people from the pagan overlords... and discover there is this small group of fellow Jews running around and saying the Anointed one was here and was killed on a Roman crucifix like so many of the common criminals.
Would you, the faithful Jewish teacher, find offense in that claim?
The problem with so many of the Mythicists who are running around screaming about Ehrman is that they really are trying too hard to push hypotheses to counter some of Ehrman's otherwise pretty standard (from an academic/scholastic view) positions.
I am critical of Ehrman for many things, but that doesn't lead me to try and create counter-hypotheses that are themselves very weak.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 22, 2012 11:03:43pm |
Speaking of puerile ventures, Coyne is busy reading through the Bible:
The Bible is boring and insipid
Yes, I have moved beyond Sophisticated Theology™ to the horses’s mouth: the King James Bible (and believe me, it’s embarrassing to sit on a plane and be observed reading the thing). I’ve read sections of it over the years, but am now required (by myself) to start at the beginning and plow right though. I wonder how many visitors here have actually read the damn thing. And although I dislike it, I feel that in some way I’ll benefit from it, for I’ll get to see how contrived, how man-made, and how truly stifling the book is to the human spirit. And I hope I’ll better understand the delusions that afflict my countrymen.
[...]
Coyne has written some wonderful stuff on evolution, but he has a marked streak for being downright juvenile at times.
Anything one is forced to read, whether forced by someone else or by oneself, can be "boring".
Secondly, reading the KJV in the year 2012 is silly. There are so many better translations into English, if one can't read Greek and Hebrew.
More importantly is embracing the truth that the Bible is not a book - it is a collection of books. And if one wants to get the best overview of the contents then the order in which one reads those books ought not be the compiled order (in English versions), but rather a historical order. The compiled order is definitely not chronological.
Finally, the importance of the Bible is best understood if one looks at what is left out of the compilation - the inter-testament writings and the later Christian writings (though a couple of them like the Didache and the Shepherd of Hermas were probably written before 2 Peter and Revelations.)
Here's where Coyne get's revealed for acting more like a fundamentalist than he will acknowledge: he's approaching the subject like a child, not an adult. Children want pat answers, but adults understand that some things just don't have conclusions or a single solution. The Western mind's quest for monotheism has taken millennia to sort through the old beliefs, and in the process thousands of variants of religion have been created. It's not possible to put 900 years of writing (from the oldest parts of the Pentateuch to 2 Peter) into an easy box - they are remnants of countless trials at religion in the levant.
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Lidane Fri, Jun 22, 2012 11:09:47pm |
I'll just leave this here:
My heart goes out to Sandusky's victims and their families. His being convicted won't change what happened, but maybe it will give them some closure, knowing that he will never be free to harm anyone else again.
Also, what are the chances of any formal NCAA sanctions against Penn State's football program over this? They knew he was a predator and didn't turn him over to the actual (i.e., non-university) police. Surely that's a punishable offense?
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MittDoesNotCompute Fri, Jun 22, 2012 11:34:35pm |
A little OT musical interlude:
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Kragar Fri, Jun 22, 2012 11:56:35pm |
To be fair, its always Iron Maiden time really
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Lidane Fri, Jun 22, 2012 11:59:30pm |
Sitting here listening to the new Fiona Apple CD. Very cool. Definitely experimental in parts, and there are songs where her voice is raw and unpolished, but that makes it better.
Love her. Hopefully I can finally see her on tour if she comes to Austin.
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Kragar Sat, Jun 23, 2012 12:02:25am |
re: #107 Lidane
Sitting here listening to the new Fiona Apple CD. Very cool. Definitely experimental in parts, and there are songs where her voice is raw and unpolished, but that makes it better.
Love her. Hopefully I can finally see her on tour if she comes to Austin.
She's playing here in a few months, but its part of a festival and not sure I want to spend the extra cash on a bunch of acts I could care less about.
Meanwhile, here is some Fiona covering Danny Elfman...
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Eclectic Infidel Sat, Jun 23, 2012 12:11:40am |
A couple friends and I were at Tommy's Joynt in SF sipping cocktails and watching the A's lose to the Giants when the news came in - for a rare moment the entire bar and seating area seemed to be pleased and relieved that Sandusky didn't walk. You could just feel it.
He'll spend the rest of his days behind bars - and if he's really really lucky, it will be in solitary confinement.
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Kragar Sat, Jun 23, 2012 12:52:56am |
Ah, the 70s, with cheesy rip off movies of Charlie's Angels
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researchok Sat, Jun 23, 2012 1:15:42am |
re: #112 freetoken
Blast from the past- and a reminder of a time that won't be easily duplicated.
Just like Elvis.
Those guys covered the gamut and weren't so easily defined or typecast.
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researchok Sat, Jun 23, 2012 1:25:37am |
re: #101 freetoken
Don't you also have to take into account the Greek is also a translation?
The original language (s) would have been Hebrew or Aramaic.
Has anyone looked into that and offered a more precise translation from the original?
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freetoken Sat, Jun 23, 2012 1:40:46am |
re: #114 researchok
Don't you also have to take into account the Greek is also a translation?
The original language (s) would have been Hebrew or Aramaic.
No.
While there may have been verbally transmitted stories that were originally in Aramaic, that were later incorporated into the Greek written Gospels, Greek was the language of the day and the NT books appear to have been written in Greek, and the 5 letters unambiguously attributed to a mid-first century writer (nominally Saul aka Paul) are Greek epistles. Also, it is generally accepted that of the epistles that are in fact first century epistles, the apostle was not the writer but the dictator, and there was someone else who was doing the scribbling.
Many parts of the NT, even the Gospels, depend upon Greek language constructs or even puns based on the Greek words themselves.
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Kragar Sat, Jun 23, 2012 1:52:51am |
re: #112 freetoken
The '70's:
[Embedded content]
Ever notice that in Willy Wonka, when they sing the Candyman song, the guy is giving out free candy right and left, but as soon as Charlie shows up, he starts charging again?
What a dick.
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freetoken Sat, Jun 23, 2012 1:54:28am |
Oh yes, the '70's had it's ... moments:
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Kragar Sat, Jun 23, 2012 2:03:41am |
Of course for good music from the 70s, we can once again thank Ronnie James Dio.
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Dire Straits Sat, Jun 23, 2012 3:24:30am |
re: #101 freetoken
Joshua the Anointed One (or Joshua the Messiah) in Aramaic Yeshua Ha'Meshiach in Greek becomes IESOUS CHRISTOS or Jesus Christ if you will.
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freetoken Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:02:36am |
Who pulls the strings?
National Christian group had big hand in amendment language
As Tuesday's historic vote on North Carolina's constitutional amendment on marriage approached, more information emerged about just where the amendment's language came from.
House Majority Leader Paul Stam, R-Wake and a leading amendment advocate, told The Fayetteville Observer that he was "overruled" on the amendment's wording by the Alliance Defense Fund. The fund is a national group that describes itself as "a Christian legal alliance defending religious liberty, sanctity of life, marriage and the family."
That amendment language has been criticized as overly broad and confusing. It bans civil unions, as well as gay marriage, and may throw a host of issues into legal limbo for straight and gay unmarried couples, a number of law professors have said.
Stam's comment raised concerns that an outside group, whose president co-authored a book titled "The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today," decided what language North Carolina voters would be asked to approve for the state's constitution.
[...]
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:08:51am |
re: #124 freetoken
Who pulls the strings?
This is the New Normal; Need to run a campaign in a state with a major media market? You won't be able to afford it with local resources unless you're very rich (See Bloomberg, Michael). Instead you'll need help from national organizations and the price they charge is that your message must reflect their priorities. He who pays the piper, calls the tune.
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Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:10:03am |
Today I am smoking a pork shoulder and a whole chicken in my smoker, 8 hours for the ham, 4 for the chicken. Applewood from my property is the smoke producer, soaked overnight in water. Hopefully I will be bragging tomorrow. I have to rub some brown suger on that ham before I fergit, if ya know what I mean, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
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freetoken Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:10:10am |
Praise Capitalist Jesus?
Republican, Democratic conventions to be blessed with prayers
The leader claims this is supposed to be non-political.
However, it most definitely is not non-ideological.
Note the abortion protest segments in their compiled video in that news segment.
Better yet, go to their website:
[Link: kneelunited.com...]
It's just more of the same.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:14:40am |
re: #126 Tommy's cone of shame
Today I am smoking a pork shoulder and a whole chicken in my smoker, 8 hours for the ham, 4 for the chicken. Applewood from my property is the smoke producer, soaked overnight in water. Hopefully I will be bragging tomorrow. I have to rub some brown suger on that ham before I fergit, if ya know what I mean, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
That sounds like a very good dinner. What do you plan on accompanying the those meats with?
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Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:18:45am |
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
That is a very good question, probably with corn on the cob, and some slaw with salt and pepper. I am on a low carb no sugar 1000 calorie a day diet (you can't eat corn!!!), down 30 pounds. I just have to remember to be patient, Rome wasn't eated in a day!
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Amory Blaine Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:19:08am |
re: #126 Tommy's cone of shame
Today I am smoking a pork shoulder and a whole chicken in my smoker, 8 hours for the ham, 4 for the chicken. Applewood from my property is the smoke producer, soaked overnight in water. Hopefully I will be bragging tomorrow. I have to rub some brown suger on that ham before I fergit, if ya know what I mean, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Nice!! All night smoke sounds fun. And delicious.
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Amory Blaine Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:20:17am |
re: #130 Amory Blaine
Nice!! All
nightday smoke sounds fun. And delicious.
Don't mind me I'm just off 3rd shift.
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Amory Blaine Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:25:19am |
re: #105 Kragar
Okay, Iron Maiden time
Maiden is gonna play here at summerfest on the 4th of July.
Guess which douchebag is going to miss it for work?
*This guy* :(
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:26:38am |
re: #129 Tommy's cone of shame
That is a very good question, probably with corn on the cob, and some slaw with salt and pepper. I am on a low carb no sugar 1000 calorie a day diet (you can't eat corn!!!), down 30 pounds. I just have to remember to be patient, Rome wasn't eated in a day!
May I suggest trying some green beans as well? They are low in calories, don't have sugar, and go well with pork and chicken. My mother uses them often to good effect, my father as well, and even I have been able to do so a couple of times.
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steve_davis Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:29:03am |
re: #6 Gitarzan
Good...I hope the sonofabitch dies in jail. .
Me, too, though I admit I'm still waffling about whether it should be from natural causes, or slipping in the shower into the loving embrace of an Aryan Brother.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:29:49am |
re: #132 Amory Blaine
Maiden is gonna play here at summerfest on the 4th of July.
Guess which douchebag is going to miss it for work?
*This guy* :(
Been there, done that (worked on the 4th of July), got the polo shirt (several of them, actually).
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:32:54am |
re: #134 steve_davis
Me, too, though I admit I'm still waffling about whether it should be from natural causes, or slipping in the shower into the loving embrace of an Aryan Brother.
OK, that second 'option' is worse than my saying the law should provide for Sandusky to be sentenced to a penictomy. Because you wouldn't advocating he be judged and then executed, you'd be advocating he be lynched.
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Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:34:48am |
re: #136 Dark_Falcon
I would have to disagree, ballectomy, takes the fight outta them. (did it to my dogs, the ole leghounds! teehee!
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Amory Blaine Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:36:13am |
I think it would be more useful if our penis' were attached to our foreheads. Like unicorns. Our testicles would reside in our earlobes. Would take the guesswork out of it wouldn't it?
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Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:36:31am |
re: #137 Tommy's cone of shame
And a message to all you anti cruel and unusual-punishment types (you know who you are) it is only torture if you use a rubber band for de-nutting.
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Amory Blaine Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:36:58am |
Of course our brows would have to be more prominent to deal with the unexciting times.
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Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:38:14am |
re: #138 Amory Blaine
Two heads are better than one!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:43:07am |
re: #137 Tommy's cone of shame
I would have to disagree, ballectomy, takes the fight outta them. (did it to my dogs, the ole leghounds! teehee!
Yeah, but if you look upthread you'll see that "goddamnedfrank" screamed at me for my #15.
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Amory Blaine Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:45:23am |
Sandusky is an old man who lived a life of privilege. Prison will be sheer hell for him.
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Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:47:48am |
re: #142 Dark_Falcon
Yes I did read that.
I don't engage any more (if I ever did)
I would rather bang my head on the table.
I do enjoy everyone's opinion, but not the derision/sycophant world view.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:52:02am |
re: #143 Amory Blaine
Sandusky is an old man who lived a life of privilege. Prison will be sheer hell for him.
And few deserve such a hell more. Does Ohio have a Supermax prison, I wonder? Because if not, Illinois should offer to house Sandusky at Tamms. Little contact with anyone, and locked in his cell 23 hours a day; Sounds like Hell to me.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:56:09am |
Morning ya'll.
The talk about castration comes on the heels of Alan Turing's birthday today, who would have been 100, who was chemically castrated for being a homosexual. It's cruel and unusual punishment - barbaric, even for pedophiles. For every one who may actually deserve it, there will be many who don't. Obviously, Turing didn't deserve anything near such a cruel fate, but how many others would be unjustly punished? I feel the same way about the death penalty.
Sandusky is going exactly where he belongs and he'll die in jail.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jun 23, 2012 5:58:17am |
re: #145 Dark_Falcon
And few deserve such a hell more. Does Ohio have a Supermax prison, I wonder? Because if not, Illinois should offer to house Sandusky at Tamms. Little contact with anyone, and locked in his cell 23 hours a day; Sounds like Hell to me.
The Daily Beast had an article about that.
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
As a new inmate at the Centre County Correctional facility just a few miles from the home he's shared with his wife of 46 years, he will be allowed to bring in two pairs of shoes (no boots allowed) and six pairs of white undershorts, undershirts, and socks. If he chooses, he may also bring eyeglasses, a few personal photographs, letters, and a Bible. Like other inmates, he will be fingerprinted, have a mug shot taken, and be quarantined in a solitary cell for several days. Neither Dottie Sandusky nor any of his adopted children will be allowed to call or visit during this time. It's a good bet his youngest son, Matt, who just this week said he was a victim of his adoptive father's sexual urges, will not be among his visitors
Sandusky will likely stay in county custody for about two months, and there he'll have to submit to evaluation by the Sexual Offender Assessment Program. Under the Commonwealth's Megan's Law, his name will automatically be added to Pennsylvania's sex-offender registry.
After sentencing, which defense attorney Joe Amendola said he expects will come in September or October, Sandusky will be transferred to the state facility at Camp Hill, where he will again be evaluated to see which of Pennsylvania's prisons is the best fit. He will most likely be assigned to the minimum-security Laurel Highlands State Prison, which has a special geriatric unit.
It won't be so easy for Dottie Sandusky to visit her husband there. Laurel Highlands is southwest of her home, in Somerset, Pa., about a three-hour drive.
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A Mom Anon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:00:53am |
re: #132 Amory Blaine
The son and the husband are going to see them tonight in Atlanta. My son is so excited he barely slept.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:02:06am |
Btw, Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, is not unfamiliar with underage sex. He got a teenager pregnant and married her.
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
Amendola, 63, married the girl several years after the birth of their child, The Daily reported Monday night, citing documents filed at the Centre County, Pa., courthouse.
Amendola represented a 16-year-old girl then known as Mary Iavasile when she filed an emancipation petition in September 1996. The emancipation petition said the girl had graduated from high school in two years with a 3.69 GPA and held a fulltime job at Amendola's law office.
The girl gave birth to Amendola's child when she was 17 years old, her mother, Janet Iavasile, said. Amendola would have been about 49 years old at the time. The age of consent in Pennsylvania is 16.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:05:46am |
re: #149 What, me worry?
Btw, Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, is not unfamiliar with underage sex. He got a teenager pregnant and married her.
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
It wasn't illegal, but I'm surprised the state Bar Association didn't take action against him. I'd expect what he did was a pretty big breech of ethics rules, though since he was not in a position of authority over her it was illegal.
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Lidane Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:08:56am |
re: #145 Dark_Falcon
Does Ohio have a Supermax prison, I wonder? Because if not, Illinois should offer to house Sandusky at Tamms. Little contact with anyone, and locked in his cell 23 hours a day; Sounds like Hell to me.
According to Wikipedia, Pennsylvania has three Supermax prisons of its own:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
And quite frankly, I can't be bothered to care what Sandusky thinks about his imprisonment. His victims have already been through Hell because of him.
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What, me worry? Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:10:25am |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
It wasn't illegal, but I'm surprised the state Bar Association didn't take action against him. I'd expect what he did was a pretty big breech of ethics rules, though since he was not in a position of authority over her it was illegal.
I just find it ultimately weird and creepy that such a man would be defending him. There's something deeply disturbing about a 49 yr old man having sex with a 16 yr old, age of consent aside.
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Amory Blaine Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:13:54am |
re: #148 A Mom Anon
The son and the husband are going to see them tonight in Atlanta. My son is so excited he barely slept.
My first maiden show was World Slavery Tour 1984. With Twisted Sister. :p
My old high school buddies are going. One of them I went to the '84 show with. I was hoping to go cause it would be cool to go with the same guy almost 30 years later..
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Shropshire_Slasher Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:17:03am |
re: #153 Amory Blaine
I get all teary eyed when my daughter can wear my old Anthrax, Metallica, Slayer and Type O t-shirts I had when we go to concerts.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:22:42am |
re: #152 What, me worry?
I just find it ultimately weird and creepy that such a man would be defending him. There's something deeply disturbing about a 49 yr old man having sex with a 16 yr old, age of consent aside.
Oh, it's creepy, no doubt. Though it was quite common in prior eras in America.
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Lidane Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:27:40am |
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
Oh, it's creepy, no doubt. Though it was quite common in prior eras in America.
Especially when women were far more likely to die in childbirth, and when they didn't have any rights to property, or to the vote, or to any sort of autonomy.
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A Mom Anon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:37:27am |
re: #153 Amory Blaine
You wouldn't believe what the husband had to go through to find tickets that were under 500 bucks a pop. Brokers bought up huge blocks of tickets here and were reselling them online for what amounts to a small fortune. He finally found a pair for under 200 in the last row under the amphitheater roof. I thought that sort of thing is illegal,if it is,no one seems to give a damn.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:39:28am |
re: #156 Lidane
Especially when women were far more likely to die in childbirth, and when they didn't have any rights to property, or to the vote, or to any sort of autonomy.
Not much to say to that save to agree with it. Though the practice went on for a a good while after women acquired property rights, and rights to some autonomy. It did not long survive the 19th Amendment, though.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 23, 2012 7:10:19am |
Major storm brewing in the Gulf of Mexico
Good news/ Bad news
In the Gulf of Mexico, the largest U.S. offshore oil port and Murphy Oil Corp. began evacuating non-essential personnel from their operations, ahead of a potential cyclone.
So the good news is you're being evacuated out of harms way
The bad? Your company thinks of you as "non-essential"
/
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Kronocide Sat, Jun 23, 2012 7:19:35am |
re: #158 Lidane
*sigh*
Surprisingly, as House Homeland Security Chairman, King appears to absorb little information from the FBI, the National Counterterrorism Center, and the Department of Homeland Security.
Bad enough he's an ignorant fuckwad. Much worse that he has authority.
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Kronocide Sat, Jun 23, 2012 7:26:12am |
The illiterate of the future will not be the person who cannot read. It will be the person who does not know how to learn.
Alvin Toffler
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Obdicut Sat, Jun 23, 2012 7:27:09am |
re: #162 Kronocide
Bad enough he's an ignorant fuckwad. Much worse that he has authority.
That's who the GOP puts in charge of shit: The person least fucking appropriate for the position. It's how they roll.
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Mich-again Sat, Jun 23, 2012 7:44:24am |
re: #158 Lidane
That haircut on Peter King looks so Geert on him.
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Kronocide Sat, Jun 23, 2012 7:53:08am |
I've been working out and about much of the last few weeks and actively listening to talk radio. This means Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Limbaugh, etc. It's as bad as it ever was, if not worse.
What's more interesting is loading these shows with ARNN, 'America's Radio News Nework.' In between segments or AM radio shows, ARNN is presented as a 'fair and balanced' news network. Their tagline is 'Making, Breaking, and Driving the News.'
Making the news?
ARNN delivers non-partisan, fast paced, co-anchored radio news reporting to affiliates nationwide
Why is it the programs who tout their balanced or non-partisanship seem to have the most issues with balance and non-partisanship?
ARNN’s Contributors and Commentators providing news coverage include: Michael Rubin, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute; Fred Barnes, executive editor of The Weekly Standard; Dr. Andrew Bostom, author of The Legacy of Islamic Anti-Semitism; and Professor Walid Phares, who penned The Coming Revolution: Struggle for Freedom in the Middle East, along with many other’s.
In the last few weeks, ARNN 'news' segments have given lots of time to Fast and Furious, had an interview with Joe Arpaio, and the other day had an interview with an 'Islamic Middle East Scholar' named Robert Spencer.
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Kronocide Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:03:14am |
In January 2011, TRN began rolling-out an all news network service for stations, called America's Radio News Network (or ARNN). ARNN began with a three-hour news block airing from 12 noon to 3 pm (Eastern Time) and has since added blocks broadcast from 3 pm to 6 pm and 6 pm to 9 pm, five days a week.[2] ARNN calls these news blocks "long-form" coverage, similar in format to NPR's morning and afternoon news magazines. ARNN says the format is designed to be flexible to all stations to take the entire package or include local news segments within each news block. ARNN is a non-partisan radio network.
Sounds fair and balanced to me. I guess me thinking that ARNN seemed like Fox News in another wrapper was a mistake.
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Mattand Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:05:42am |
Not much to add to the Sandusky sentencing, except I think Joe Paterno deserves some of the blame for all of this misery. From what I've read, he had as much, if not more, power than the people who ran Penn State. Making a report and saying "There's nothing more I could do"? Fuck that.
There's many Penn State grads in the Philly/South Jersey area that do not appear to share this sentiment. Because, hey, can't disturb Penn State's million dollar NCAA program.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:12:57am |
re: #158 Lidane
*sigh*
Where the hell did he get that statistic from? IRA Pete needs to shut the hell up. Anyhow regarding Sandusky, I hope his years in jail are painful and he's tormented by the terrible crime he did.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:18:12am |
Israel Air Force Targets Terrorist in Gaza, Prevents Rocket Attack on Israel
Check out the guy at the bottom of the screen when the missile hits. He just turns around and casually strolls away.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:21:17am |
Morning all!
They said on the news this a.m. that Sandusky was going to appeal the verdict.
WTF?
How are you-all?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:24:58am |
re: #152 What, me worry?
I just find it ultimately weird and creepy that such a man would be defending him. There's something deeply disturbing about a 49 yr old man having sex with a 16 yr old, age of consent aside.
ah, it's ok, you see. He *married* her.
/gah
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CuriousLurker Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:26:14am |
Sorry for going OT, but people should be aware of this:
Rodeo Horses Roped, Tripped, Slammed, Severely Abused
Returning to my previously scheduled Saturday chores...
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kirkspencer Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:30:11am |
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Obdicut Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:33:08am |
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:00:30am |
Happy Saturday everyone! Republican Rep. Vern Buchanan is under the weight of four federal investigations of corruption. CNN bagged a witness interview.
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blueraven Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:07:24am |
re: #179 Daniel Ballard
Happy Saturday everyone! Republican Rep. Vern Buchanan is under the weight of four federal investigations of corruption. CNN bagged a witness interview.
Your link didn't work for me
Found it here
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Kronocide Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:13:33am |
Irony.
Greg Kandra, a former CBS writer and producer for 26 years, is done excusing the liberal bias in the profession he worked in for a quarter of a century.
So says the blog post on Flopping Aces , along with the rest of wingnut blogdom, fired up about liberal media bias since they 'caught' Andrea Mitchell.
More of the quote:
You have successfully eroded any confidence, dispelled any trust, and driven your audience into the arms of the Internet and the blogosphere, where biases are affirmed and like-minded people can tell each other what they hold to be true, since nobody believes in objective reality any more.
The Just Bloggers take this an affirmation of their importance and virtue. The very degradation of objective journalism is an affirmation of their propaganda and advocacy. They need what they rail against to justify their existence.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:32:58am |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
Israel Air Force Targets Terrorist in Gaza, Prevents Rocket Attack on Israel
[Embedded content]
Check out the guy at the bottom of the screen when the missile hits. He just turns around and casually strolls away.
"Hold on ,,, think I'll go back home and get an umbrella just in case!"
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:34:09am |
I find myself drawn back to wing nut daily every now and then. It is really depressing to read the comments there. Such hatred, racism, falsehoods, and blind ignorance without any real effort to argue a position. They feed on themselves trying to out ditto the previous comment with primitive insults.
Where do these people live and how did they get that way?
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wrenchwench Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:45:25am |
re: #25 goddamnedfrank
I feel no pity for his wife. There isn't enough credulity in the world for me to believe that she didn't enable his behavior.
Thanks for saving me the typing.
Six adopted sons? Holy shit.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:47:45am |
re: #184 wrenchwench
Thanks for saving me the typing.
Six adopted sons? Holy shit.
Really? Six? It was a fucking business.
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b_sharp Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:49:50am |
re: #183 Achilles Tang
I find myself drawn back to wing nut daily every now and then. It is really depressing to read the comments there. Such hatred, racism, falsehoods, and blind ignorance without any real effort to argue a position. They feed on themselves trying to out ditto the previous comment with primitive insults.
Where do these people live and how did they get that way?
Compare that to the kids on the bus insulting Karen Klein. It's a behaviour common with kids trying to belong to the tribe and seen in mob mentality and even found in chimpanzee young.
When found in adults it represents stunted emotional growth, insecurity, misdirected anger and reactive thinking.
In the good old days, they'd be the town fools.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:53:22am |
[Link: www.ajc.com...]
UGA professor in prostitution sting keeps job
Max Reinhart, a tenured professor, has agreed not to sue the university and leave the campus May 10, 2013, as long as he’s not terminated.
I would think there would be some type of morals clause in his contract but I guess in this instance there's not
The spokesman said the professor, who makes $87,224 a year, will continue to conduct research and will stay employed even if he is found guilty of the charges. He said the process of trying to revoke Reinhart's tenure, which is a contractural right to keep his job, would be costly and lengthy.
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aagcobb Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:58:38am |
re: #173 ggt
Morning all!
They said on the news this a.m. that Sandusky was going to appeal the verdict.
WTF?
How are you-all?
He might as well; its not like he has anything to lose. It doesn't mean he actually has any good issues to appeal, and its extremely unlikely that a conviction as solidly supported by evidence as this one is will be reversed.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:04:02am |
re: #173 ggt
re: #188 aagcobb
He might as well; its not like he has anything to lose. It doesn't mean he actually has any good issues to appeal, and its extremely unlikely that a conviction as solidly supported by evidence as this one is will be reversed.
Exactly
It's well within his rights to appeal (although his lawyer is going to have to come up with a 'cause')
As you stated, there is most likely less than zero chance any of this will be overturned
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:14:26am |
Cold, dark and dreary here today. Makes me ever so thankful I can get my gardening fix by spending the day puttering around in the greenhouse where it's dry. Radio playing, cats napping.
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aagcobb Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:20:51am |
re: #189 sattv4u2
re: #188 aagcobb
Exactly
It's well within his rights to appeal (although his lawyer is going to have to come up with a 'cause')
As you stated, there is most likely less than zero chance any of this will be overturned
If I faced spending the rest of my life in a 6' by 8' cell 23 hours a day, I would sure as hell appeal no matter how bad the odds were.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:24:43am |
I've been very skeptical of all the claims and fear of GM crops but this is very disturbing if it end up being true.
GM grass linked to Texas cattle deaths
A mysterious mass death of a herd of cattle has prompted a federal investigation in Central Texas.
Preliminary test results are blaming the deaths on the grass the cows were eating when they got sick, reports CBS Station KEYE.
The cows dropped dead several weeks ago on an 80-acre ranch owned by Jerry Abel in Elgin, just east of Austin.
Abel says he's been using the fields for cattle grazing and hay for 15 years. "A lot of leaf, it's good grass, tested high for protein - it should have been perfect," he told KEYE correspondent Lisa Leigh Kelly.
The grass is a genetically-modified form of Bermuda known as Tifton 85 which has been growing here for 15 years, feeding Abel's 18 head of Corriente cattle.
...
Preliminary tests revealed the Tifton 85 grass, which has been here for years, had suddenly started producing cyanide gas, poisoning the cattle."Coming off the drought that we had the last two years ... we're concerned it was a combination of events that led us to this," Dr. Gary Warner, an Elgin veterinarian and cattle specialist who conducted the 15 necropsies, told Kelly.
What is more worrisome: Other farmers have tested their Tifton 85 grass, and several in Bastrop County have found their fields are also toxic with cyanide.
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allegro Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:28:13am |
re: #191 Killgore Trout
Cold, dark and dreary here today. Makes me ever so thankful I can get my gardening fix by spending the day puttering around in the greenhouse where it's dry. Radio playing, cats napping.
95 degrees here. 100 heat index and it's only noon-thirty. Makes me ever so thankful for air conditioning. Just finished cooking and freezer-packaging two weeks of dog food for The Boys so I can shut down the stove before it gets even hotter.
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b_sharp Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:32:37am |
re: #192 aagcobb
If I faced spending the rest of my life in a 6' by 8' cell 23 hours a day, I would sure as hell appeal no matter how bad the odds were.
Depends on the wallpaper and drapes.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:33:15am |
re: #193 Killgore Trout
[Link: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...]
The cyanide gas released is tiny, enough to kill some moth larvae, but it's doubtful there's enough to kill cattle.
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allegro Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:36:19am |
re: #196 Randall Gross
[Link: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...]
The cyanide gas released is tiny, enough to kill some moth larvae, but it's doubtful there's enough to kill cattle.
Did you miss this part?
Preliminary tests revealed the Tifton 85 grass, which has been here for years, had suddenly started producing cyanide gas, poisoning the cattle.
...
Elgin veterinarian and cattle specialist who conducted the 15 necropsies,
They aren't just making it up or making assumptions.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:39:03am |
re: #197 allegro
Did you miss this part?
They aren't just making it up or making assumptions.
Not at all, Stargrass producing cyanide is a known factor, most animals won't eat it when the quantities go too high. The quantities are still at the level that will kill bugs, but not cattle. The testing by USGA is still going on, so I wouldn't jump to conclusions before you see what they say.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:40:21am |
[Link: www.ehow.com...]
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:43:21am |
re: #197 allegro
Did you miss this part?
They aren't just making it up or making assumptions.
They might be. There's a lot of hysteria and misinformation out there when it comes to GM crops. Lots of people have agendas.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:44:12am |
Here's more:
[Link: books.google.com...]
The deaths could very well be the cyanide, I'm going to wait for more evidence before deciding.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:45:43am |
re: #198 Randall Gross
Not at all, Stargrass producing cyanide is a known factor, most animals won't eat it when the quantities go too high. The quantities are still at the level that will kill bugs, but not cattle. The testing by USGA is still going on, so I wouldn't jump to conclusions before you see what they say.
Based on consumption of what quantity? Cyanide can biomagnify and cattle eat a hell of a lot of grass.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:46:18am |
re: #200 Killgore Trout
They might be. There's a lot of hysteria and misinformation out there when it comes to GM crops. Lots of people have agendas.
I noticed that this news article is getting lots of hits at the kookspiracy site, Godlike productions, while looking for the reference links above.
If the GM mods somehow increased the stargrass' natural cyanide production that could be bad like KT said.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:47:26am |
re: #202 goddamnedfrank
See the links above, it's strongest when the grass is young, it doesn't need to be GM modified to produce cyanide, and even when fed mass quantities of young grass, cattle doesn't die.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:47:51am |
re: #203 Randall Gross
I noticed that this news article is getting lots of hits at the kookspiracy site, Godlike productions, while looking for the reference links above.
If the GM mods somehow increased the stargrass' natural cyanide production that could be bad like KT said.
I looked for other MSM articles and so far that's the only coverage.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 10:59:07am |
re: #202 goddamnedfrank
One other note: the animals would have developed goiter and myelin sheath loss nerve damage if the effects were built up from years of ingesting stargrass. (it would manifest in pregnant cows first)
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b_sharp Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:01:39am |
re: #203 Randall Gross
I noticed that this news article is getting lots of hits at the kookspiracy site, Godlike productions, while looking for the reference links above.
If the GM mods somehow increased the stargrass' natural cyanide production that could be bad like KT said.
I'd look to the drought to have changed the balance of young stargrass to alternative food for the cattle.
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allegro Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:02:48am |
I just sent an email to Dr. Warner (who I have met several times at conferences) to request copies of his necropsy reports if he's able to share them. We'll see.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:06:16am |
re: #207 b_sharp
I'd look to the drought to have changed the balance of young stargrass to alternative food for the cattle.
There is a study out there where some calves died, but they artificially jacked the cyanide content up by adding it to the fertilizer. So if cyanide's in the soil (say from gold mining or something?) then theoretically it could kill cows.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:07:46am |
oops link:
[Link: www.accessdata.fda.gov...]
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:10:12am |
4 Pinocchios for Obama’s newest anti-Romney ad
It seems to me that the democrats have plenty of economic ammunition against Romney without leaving themselves open to this kind of fact checking, and even semantic word misuse.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:12:15am |
re: #211 Achilles Tang
4 Pinocchios for Obama’s newest anti-Romney ad
It seems to me that the democrats have plenty of economic ammunition against Romney without leaving themselves open to this kind of fact checking, and even semantic word misuse.
I saw that one too. It's pretty bad but remember that those TV ads are targeting low information voters that are swayed by seeing advertisements on TV. If they are influenced by a tv ad it's very unlikely they'll see the fact check debunking it.
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b_sharp Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:21:13am |
The rancher has been using the grass in the same fields for 15 years, now suddenly the cattle have high levels of cyanide in their systems.
What conditions have changed? The most obvious is the massive drought 2 years ago. Did the grass itself mutate to produce more cyanide later in its growth cycle? Was there a grass co-existing with the stargrass previously that diluted the amount of cyanide in the hay bails/fields? Were the cattle eating some other vegetation when they sensed (tasted) the cyanide level in the stargrass was too high that is now no longer available?
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Mich-again Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:22:56am |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
I saw that one too. It's pretty bad but remember that those TV ads are targeting low information voters that are swayed by seeing advertisements on TV. If they are influenced by a tv ad it's very unlikely they'll see the fact check debunking it.
Too bad that the truth in advertising rules don's apply to political campaign advertisements.
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is the main federal agency that enforces advertising laws and regulations. Under the Federal Trade Commission Act:
Advertising must be truthful and non-deceptive
Advertisers must have evidence to back up their claims
Advertisements cannot be unfair
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Gus Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:24:16am |
On the Tiftin 85. Interesting how CBS News edited the original article from KEYE.
CBS News version starting half way down:
Within hours, 15 of the 18 cattle were dead.
"That was very traumatic to see, because there was nothing you could do, obviously, they were dying," said Abel.
Preliminary tests revealed the Tifton 85 grass, which has been here for years, had suddenly started producing cyanide gas, poisoning the cattle.
"Coming off the drought that we had the last two years ... we're concerned it was a combination of events that led us to this," Dr. Gary Warner, an Elgin veterinarian and cattle specialist who conducted the 15 necropsies, told Kelly.
What is more worrisome: Other farmers have tested their Tifton 85 grass, and several in Bastrop County have found their fields are also toxic with cyanide. However, no other cattle have died.
Scientists at the U.S. Department of Agriculture are dissecting the grass to determine if there might have been some strange, unexpected mutation.
Until it can be determined why this grass suddenly began producing cyanide, Abel is keep his livestock far away.
"The grasshoppers are enjoying it now," he said.
Over at KEYE:
Within hours, 15 of the 18 cattle were dead.
"That was very traumatic to see, because there was nothing you could do, obviously, they were dying," said Abel.
Dr. Gary Warner, an Elgin veterinarian who specializes in cattle, conducted the 15 necropsy. Preliminary tests revealed the Tifton 85 grass, which has been here for years, had suddenly started producing cyanide gas, poisoning the cattle.
"Coming off the drought that we had the last two years, we're concerned it was a combination of events that led us to this," said Warner. "The problem is, we don't know, and there needs to be some caution exercised until we know more about the situation."
Until scientists can determine why this tried and true grass suddenly began producing cyanide, Abel is keep his livestock far away.
"The grasshoppers are enjoying it now," said Abel.
What is even more worrisome - other farmers have tested their Tifton 85 grass, and several in Bastrop County have found their fields are also toxic with cyanide, although no other cattle have died.
Scientists at the U.S. Department of Agriculture are dissecting the grass to determine if there might have been some strange, unexpected mutation.
I bolded the most "interesting" exclusion from the CBS News version:
"The problem is, we don't know, and there needs to be some caution exercised until we know more about the situation." -- Dr. Warner
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:28:40am |
re: #212 Killgore Trout Gus
Yeah, like I mentioned above the cyanide content can be artificially inflated, it's odd.
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Gus Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:31:16am |
This is stupid: Mutated GMO Grass Makes Cyanide, Kills Cattle
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Mich-again Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:33:33am |
Methane + Ammonia + Oxygen + infinite Texas heat makes HCN. It forms in the cowpies. that's my conspiracy theory.
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Gus Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:34:59am |
re: #219 Mich-again
Methane + Ammonia + Oxygen + infinite Texas heat makes HCN. It forms in the cowpies. that's my conspiracy theory.
The ghost of Duane Allman was there eating peaches which eventually the cattle consumed. That's my conspiracy theory and I'm sticking to it. Eat a peach.
//
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Gus Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:40:24am |
re: #221 Mich-again
The cows were fed crushed apple seeds. /
You mean Fed as in Federal? Obama done it.
//
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Gus Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:41:34am |
Tifton 85 is not a GMO but instead an F1 hybrid.
[Link: www.tifton.uga.edu...]
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Gus Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:44:35am |
F1 hybrid is a term used in genetics and selective breeding. F1 stands for Filial 1, the first filial generation seeds/plants or animal offspring resulting from a cross mating of distinctly different parental types.[1] The term is sometimes written with a subscript, as F1 hybrid.[2][3] The offspring of distinctly different parental types produce a new, uniform variety with specific characteristics from either or both parents. In fish breeding, those parents frequently are two closely related fish species, while in plant and animal genetics those parents usually are two inbred lines. Mules are F1 hybrids between horse and donkey. Today, certain domestic hybrid breeds, such as the Savannah cat, are classified by their filial generation number.
Gregor Mendel's groundbreaking work in the 19th century focused on patterns of inheritance and the genetic basis for variation. In his cross-pollination experiments involving two true-breeding, or homozygous, parents, Mendel found that the resulting F1 generation were heterozygous and consistent. The offspring showed a combination of those phenotypes from each of the parents that were genetically dominant. Mendel’s discoveries involving the F1 and F2 generation laid the foundation for modern genetics...
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:52:03am |
re: #223 Gus
Tifton 85 is not a GMO but instead an F1 hybrid.
[Link: www.tifton.uga.edu...]
Lol! It's not even GM. I guess maybe they can stretch the definition of "Genetic modification" but I think it's safe to say the article is bullshit. I wonder if they do this on a slow news day or a weekend just for a cheap web traffic boost. This is a little beyond lazy reporting and really looks like intentional sensationalism.
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Big Joe Sat, Jun 23, 2012 12:05:47pm |
re: #211 Achilles Tang
4 Pinocchios for Obama’s newest anti-Romney ad
It seems to me that the democrats have plenty of economic ammunition against Romney without leaving themselves open to this kind of fact checking, and even semantic word misuse.
vs. this article from C&L:
Romney Led Bain's Investments in Outsourcing Firms, Despite What Fact-Checkers Say
Bad, naughty Obama campaign, misleading viewers that way. Oh, wait. Because the Washington Post also has this story running on page 1 this morning about how Romney did, in fact, outsource jobs to China and Mexico during his time at Bain Capital. And it directly contradicts Mr. Pinnochio-Giver Kessler:
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Mattand Sat, Jun 23, 2012 1:18:12pm |
re: #226 Big Joe
vs. this article from C&L:
Romney Led Bain's Investments in Outsourcing Firms, Despite What Fact-Checkers Say
There's a reason I stopped reading Crooks and Liars.
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SidewaysQuark Sat, Jun 23, 2012 1:24:43pm |
re: #171 HappyWarrior
Where the hell did he get that statistic from? IRA Pete needs to shut the hell up. Anyhow regarding Sandusky, I hope his years in jail are painful and he's tormented by the terrible crime he did.
90%? Surely not that high, though, for sure, Muslims are responsible for HUGELY disproportionate percentage of terrorist acts worldwide, let's not kid ourselves. That is a big problem that SHOULD be addressed.
However, King's idea of randomly targeting people based on their religion is still repugnant, and would still be repugnant if Muslims were responsible for 99% of terrorist acts.
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