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World Wrestling Entertainment reporter Michael Cole attempted to interview Glenn Beck on Monday, but the conservative commentator allegedly refused to talk.
“You’d think that if Mr. Beck had such inflammatory comments to say about our product that he would be willing to come out here and at least do a one-on-one interview with me,” Cole said while standing in the lobby of Beck’s studio in Dallas.
The WWE reporter was asked to leave and told Beck was currently not in the building. However, Cole was also told that Beck was in his studio performing his show.
The WWE sent out a press release announcing, “Glenn Beck Hides From WWE.”
Lawry explained that from the outside of the car, it just looked like “regular bird poop.”
“But the amazing thing is, whenever you get inside the car… I mean, it’s like a perfect portrait,” the man insisted as he tried to focus the camera on the white bird droppings.
“It’s like Jesus staring right at me!” he exclaimed. “Absolutely amazing! It looks so clear to me.”
“Gee grandpa, tell us again about what it was like before digital cameras were built into everything.”
“Well son, back the old days, we had to use film for our cameras. You didn’t know how the picture would turn out until after you got the film developed. If you got a bad picture, that was it, you just had to throw that picture out. And that was if you got the film developed, because people would shoot whole rolls of film, then put them in a desk drawer and forget about them for years. And if you wanted to share a picture with your friends, you actually had to take it to them, you couldn’t just email it or post it to Facebook. And if you wanted to put it on your computer, you had to buy a scanner or use a friend’s, you couldn’t just plug your camera into the computer.”
“Gee grandpa, tell us again about what it was like before digital cameras were built into everything.”
“Well son, back the old days, we had to use film for our cameras. You didn’t know how the picture would turn out until after you got the film developed. If you got a bad picture, that was it, you just had to throw that picture out. And that was if you got the film developed, because people would shoot whole rolls of film, then put them in a desk drawer and forget about them for years. And if you wanted to share a picture with your friends, you actually had to take it to them, you couldn’t just email it or post it to Facebook. And if you wanted to put it on your computer, you had to buy a scanner or use a friend’s, you couldn’t just plug your camera into the computer.”
“And you had to stash porn in closets and under beds, not in folders called ‘tax forms’ or ‘country music’ where no one would go look.”
Shitty GOP Presidential ticket? Check.
Shitty GOP platform? Check.
Crazy wingnuts like Akin bringing the cray-cray? Check.
Faux News/Talk Radio bubble keeping reality out? Check.
American demographics that work against the GOP? Check.
Gee. Can’t imagine why all that money didn’t help Rove win.
Shitty GOP Presidential ticket? Check.
Shitty GOP platform? Check.
Crazy wingnuts like Akin bringing the cray-cray? Check.
Faux News/Talk Radio bubble keeping reality out? Check.
American demographics that work against the GOP? Check.
Gee. Can’t imagine why all that money didn’t help Rove win.
But… they did get top birther Donald Trump on the show, to announce they are inducting them into the “celebrity wing” of their “hall of fame”!
Trump is more self-assured than Beck and in controlled (in his favor) circumstances has the ability to laugh at himself. Glenn Beck can’t deliberately act screwy and then laugh about it, and that makes him less able to deal with over-the-top environments that he himself has not crafted.
Good night all. It’s one of those nights and I’m going to go off and re-read Ariel by Sylvia Plath & Birthday Letters by Ted Hughes. Though it’s true that where the light ends, darkness begins we tend to forget that the reverse is also true - that where the darkness ends, light begins…
I really don’t recall this kind of rage being consistently directed at Laura Bush, or any other previous First Lady.
For the Magical Balance Fairy proponents out there, please note I indicated “consistent rage.”
I do not remember any rage directed at Laura Bush, ever. There was a lot of rage against Hillary Clinton, and Nancy Reagan. But nothing like what has been hurled at the present FLOTUS.
I do not remember any rage directed at Laura Bush, ever. There was a lot of rage against Hillary Clinton, and Nancy Reagan. But nothing like what has been hurled at the present FLOTUS.
There was some, but it wasn’t that common, it certainly wasn’t common among left-wing bloggers.
People who qualify for the “free phone” program (which started with Reagan BTW) don’t get iPhones, they get a barebones “dumb phone” like my Motorola Z3.
Today’s idiocy alert: someone just compared Ashley Judd to Todd Akin apparently over comments that Judd made comparing mountaintop mining to the Rwandan genocide. Oh that someone? Grover Norquist.
Ashley Judd, The Democrat Todd Aiken…. compares mountaintop removal to the Rwandan genocide:dailycaller.com/2013/02/26/ash…
Thunder-thigh Michelle Obama Says Hollywood sets an example for nation’s children i.e. sex, violence & murder wtim.es/13Pzbhb #tcot
— John Galt (@mzagorski) February 26, 2013
Hey “John” go tap your toes in a bathroom stall somewhere with diapers on before hitting the Appalachian trail with your favorite congressional page.
AVON, N.J. — Environmental groups say they’ll launch a boycott drive against a Jersey shore town that refuses to back off its plan to use tropical rainforest wood to rebuild a boardwalk destroyed by Superstorm Sandy.
The groups calculate that 766 acres of old-growth tropical rainforest needed to be cut down to provide materials to rebuild just one small storm-damaged boardwalk at the Jersey shore, and they’re promising a tourist season boycott if the town goes through with its plan.
Activists on Monday called on the small shore town of Avon to use something other than ipe (pronounced EE’-pay) to rebuild the boardwalk destroyed by the October storm but were rejected.
Boardwalks along the Jersey Shore and Long Island and NYC were trashed by Sandy. Ipe has been a featured wood for the Coney Island Boardwalk, but Mayor Bloomberg has been pushing for replacements for the last couple of years. Synthetic woods haven’t held up as well, so the City was moving to eliminate the boardwalk and replace it with patterned concrete - which can handle the Parks Department and NYPD vehicles that regularly patrol the areas far better. It’s just not a boardwalk though.
Ipe was long chosen because of its durability, but it takes a toll on the rain forests and even sustainable forests of the stuff leave a mark on the ecology of the region.
In the end, it will probably be a mix of materials - synthetics and real hardwoods from other sources.
They seriously think they can take on an actual army.
Morons.
Good Lord, between that and the “IRS doesn’t receive e-filed tax returns” guy…
Seriously, Republicans, this is your core demographic. People who are so caught up in their own twisted paranoia that reality isn’t a viable option anymore.
The First Lady is a fat, cow-like racial expletive. The UN wants our guns. Obama is a socialist communist dictator who is a lackey of corporations. Women can magically not get pregnant from rape.
This list is endless.
This really doesn’t embarrass you at all? How do you guys look yourselves in the mirror after supporting this insanity?
Good Lord, between that and the “IRS doesn’t receive e-filed tax returns” guy…
Seriously, Republicans, this is your core demographic. People who are so caught up in their own twisted paranoia that reality isn’t a viable option anymore.
The First Lady is a fat, cow-like racial exploitive. The UN wants our guns. Obama is a socialist communist dictator who is a lackey of corporations. Women can magically not get pregnant from rape.
This list is endless.
This really doesn’t embarrass you at all? How do you guys look yourselves in the mirror after supporting this insanity?
Because by pandering to these elements they get votes and the contents of their wallets. What else matters once you have that?
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“Forcing someone to violate her religion” in this case consists of the alleged “religious right” to deny an employee health care.
Small rant. Let me begin with a quote from the site linked in the tweet, which comes from the court transcript:
So, she’d have to give up the limitation that conceivably would befall on her regarding liability in order to exercise her religion? So, she’d have to go as an individual proprietor with no corporation protection in order to assert her religious right? Isn’t that as significant burden?
That’s a question from the judge. The background, summarized, is that she (Judge Walton’s wife) is sole owner of a corporation which employs her, its sole medical employee, to perform medical duties. In other words, the corporation is a legal entity to provide particular benefits and protections to what is essentially a solo practice.
The answer to the judge is that no, it is not a significant burden. The legal separation that gives protection also carries burdens, which are based in part on the idea that the person and the corporation are not the same — that the corporation is a person.
And a person cannot force its religious beliefs on another person.
It’s also wrong in phrasing the ‘religious rights’ portion. My religious rights do NOT include the right to discriminate against others in anything but the direct religious practice with other members of my religion. I cannot force others to obey my religious strictures. And the threat of “no job” is force.
A rival for Jim Hoft for ‘dumbest man on the internet’??
The problem is Destro is intelligent, but is so laden with an anti-American (and other) agenda that he bends everything else in the universe to fit it. This leads to him defending genocidal warm criminals and other shenanigans.
The problems with politics in the world isn’t mainly stupidity, it’s smart people ignoring reality because Ideology.
Don’t you know? Those enlistees were just ASKING for it!
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The point he’s making is trivially true: it was an attack on a military asset, not civilians. It was still a terrorist attack, carried out by terrorists in an attempt not to defeat the US militarily— the number of deaths and the material destroyed is utterly insignificant— but to affect the civilian population.
“Terrorist” isn’t an inherently negative phrase, either. Chuck Yeager, when he was with the French Resistance, became in his own words a ‘terrorist bomber’. He blew up (military) trains with the Maquis. Part of what they were trying to do was to scare collaborators into not wanting to drive those troop trains.
I thought of the Cole recently in relation to the frustration about so little progress in getting those responsible for Benghazi. We’re still hitting Cole related targets today. If you pay close attention to the bios of the drone strike targets, every once in a while you’ll see someone who had a hand in the Cole attack. Shit takes time.
I wonder if the same standard is upheld with State Department officials? There have been many attacks against embassies in the past, Libya not withstanding. Destro blames US involvement there for everything bad in Northern Africa, so he probably would.
re: #98 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
“Terrorist” isn’t an inherently negative phrase, either. Chuck Yeager, when he was with the French Resistance, became in his own words a ‘terrorist bomber’. He blew up (military) trains with the Maquis. Part of what they were trying to do was to scare collaborators into not wanting to drive those troop trains.
When did he refer to himself as a ‘terrorist bomber’? I read his autobiography, several times in fact. Albeit, it’s been about 15+ years.
When did he refer to himself as a ‘terrorist bomber’? I read his autobiography, several times in fact. Albeit, it’s been about 15+ years.
I don’t know what else to tell you except it’s in the section where he is working with the Maquis. I am 100% sure that he self-describes as a terrorist. He also admits that he did things that he personally considered a war crime. It’s a great autobiography, a very honest one. Bears re-reading.
I wonder if the same standard is upheld with State Department officials? There have been many attacks against embassies in the past, Libya not withstanding. Destro blames US involvement there for everything bad in Northern Africa, so he probably would.
His disdain for the US is obvious. Everything that is wrong in the world is the fault of the United States.
re: #98 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
The point he’s making is trivially true: it was an attack on a military asset, not civilians. It was still a terrorist attack, carried out by terrorists in an attempt not to defeat the US militarily— the number of deaths and the material destroyed is utterly insignificant— but to affect the civilian population.
“Terrorist” isn’t an inherently negative phrase, either. Chuck Yeager, when he was with the French Resistance, became in his own words a ‘terrorist bomber’. He blew up (military) trains with the Maquis. Part of what they were trying to do was to scare collaborators into not wanting to drive those troop trains.
Never knew that Yeager helped the French Resistance during WWII. Anyhow, strange that he would use it in a positive context. I’m so used to hearing it as a pejorative.
Never knew that Yeager helped the French Resistance during WWII. Anyhow, strange that he would use it in a positive context. I’m so used to hearing it as a pejorative.
Causing terror to the civilian collaborators was definitely seen as a virtue during WWII. The whole subject gets wonky there because there was a lot of deliberate targeting of civilians to ‘break’ morale in WWII, with a huge debate about whether it was actually effective at all. Certainly wasn’t effective against the British or the Finns.
re: #109 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Causing terror to the civilian collaborators was definitely seen as a virtue during WWII. The whole subject gets wonky there because there was a lot of deliberate targeting of civilians to ‘break’ morale in WWII, with a huge debate about whether it was actually effective at all. Certainly wasn’t effective against the British or the Finns.
Right, I understand that. Just surprised that he used the word “terrorist” for himself but as I said, I’m used to hearing the word in a negative context and I think Yeager wrote that autobiography years ago. Good point about the Brits and Finns. The Finns defeat of the Soviets in the Winter War was an amazing accomplishment. Speaking of collaborators, the Military Channel had this great series about Nazi collaborators. Found it fascinating.
Good Lord, between that and the “IRS doesn’t receive e-filed tax returns” guy…
Seriously, Republicans, this is your core demographic. People who are so caught up in their own twisted paranoia that reality isn’t a viable option anymore.
The First Lady is a fat, cow-like racial expletive. The UN wants our guns. Obama is a socialist communist dictator who is a lackey of corporations. Women can magically not get pregnant from rape.
This list is endless.
This really doesn’t embarrass you at all? How do you guys look yourselves in the mirror after supporting this insanity?
I noticed that LGF conservatives usually avoid even discussing their own party.
What he did was just stupid. There were so many other clever, non-offensive costume ideas there was no reason for him to choose blackface.
Now, the family that dressed in buckskin and feathers was adorable. Obviously they were inspired by Mel Brooks as the Indian chief in Blazing Saddles. :)
Dov Hikind was spectacularly wrong. I’ve met him on any number occasions, and it’s actually amazing to see someone who normally understands the importance of media and is seen as being media savvy to be so tone deaf over just how inappropriate and hurtful his blackface costume for Purim was.
Anyhow, been doing some research on Eastern European resistance movements in WWII since I’ve considered getting one of their symbols as a tattoo(my grandfather’s cousins were part of the Yugoslav resistance not sure if Partisans or Chetniks), anyhow, seems that a lot of the left wing resistance movements have a mixed legacy because a lot of nationalists blame them for the ushering in of Communism after the war. And some collaborators who were motivated by nationalism to collaborate are seen in some especially right wing/nationalist quarters as heroes. Hell, it’s like that in Western Europe to some degree too. I know LePen in France for example constantly defends Marshal Petain.
Hikind has urged the New York Police Department to implement a policy of racial profiling in subway bag searches, which would affect individuals who appear to be Muslim. He held up photos of Muslim men at a news conference and said: “The individuals involved [in terrorism] basically look like this. Why must police think twice before examining people of a particular group?” Hikind defends this policy on the grounds that it would work far more effectively to combat terrorism than the current policy, instituted in 2004, which uses random bag searches.
Searches based on racial profiling have been called racist and demeaning by civil rights groups. The NYPD released a statement against Hikind’s proposal of racial profiling, saying that “Racial profiling is illegal, of doubtful effectiveness, and against department policy”.
Same-sex marriage
After voting against a same-sex marriage bill in the New York State Assembly, Hikind noted that same-sex marriage can lead to the acceptance of incest, maintaining that, “If we authorize gay marriage in the state of New York, those who want to live and love incestuously will be five steps closer to achieving their goals as well.” On June 15, 2011, after the New York State Assembly passed a bill to legalize gay marriage, Hikind said gay marriage is wrong in the eyes of God.
Dov Hikind was spectacularly wrong. I’ve met him on any number occasions, and it’s actually amazing to see someone who normally understands the importance of media and is seen as being media savvy to be so tone deaf over just how inappropriate and hurtful his blackface costume for Purim was.
Seriously. It’s bad for the Jewish community as well. As an assemblyman in Brooklyn, Brooklyn of all places, he should have known better. To even do this and then just blow it off.
Many officials and public figures highlighted by Joseph McCarthy (among others), who, we have since learned from US and Soviet archives, were secret agents and fellow-traveling supporters of Stalin.
There is no list of names. They must have left it in McCarthy’s pocket when they buried him.
There is the usual confusion of chronology and failure to distinguish McCarthy from HUAC. The Venona transcripts are credited with vindicating McCarthy, while in fact they do largely the opposite. Comments focus on some genuine (though disputed) cases in which McCarthy had a peripheral involvement and completely ignore the colossal failure and disgusting tactics of his 1953-54 witch hunt. I wonder if these people believe McCarthy’s claim that General Marshall and President Eisenhower were commie conspirators? Evans’s latest project, Stalin’s Secret Agents: The Subversion of Roosevelt’s Government, is aimed largely at discrediting US World War II policy. It is of a piece with Patrick Buchanan’s masterpiece, Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War. This is reflected in the long-standing but seldom stated John Birch Society claim that the US fought on the wrong side in WWII or should at least have stayed neutral while the Nazis and the Japanese militarists looted and slaughtered their way through the rest of the world.
There is no list of names. They must have left it in McCarthy’s pocket when they buried him.
There is the usual confusion of chronology and failure to distinguish McCarthy from HUAC. The Venona transcripts are credited with vindicating McCarthy, while in fact they do largely the opposite. Comments focus on some genuine (though disputed) cases in which McCarthy had a peripheral involvement and completely ignore the colossal failure and disgusting tactics of his 1953-54 witch hunt. I wonder if these people believe McCarthy’s claim that General Marshall and President Eisenhower were commie conspirators? Evans’s latest project, Stalin’s Secret Agents: The Subversion of Roosevelt’s Government, is aimed largely at discrediting US World War II policy. It is of a piece with Patrick Buchanan’s masterpiece, Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War. This is reflected in the long-standing but seldom stated John Birch Society claim that the US fought on the wrong side in WWII or should at least have stayed neutral while the Nazis and the Japanese militarists looted and slaughtered their way through the rest of the world.
Shit, I believe even Jonah Goldberg of all people called out Coulter’s craziness then and pointed out that the Truman Administration especially was not what you could call Communist sympathetic. Anyhow, this McCarthy was right crap just sucks. He attacked the loyalty of many American men and women including Marshall. I don’t think McCarthy ever went after Ike though but the Birchers sure as shit did.
There is no list of names. They must have left it in McCarthy’s pocket when they buried him.
There is the usual confusion of chronology and failure to distinguish McCarthy from HUAC. The Venona transcripts are credited with vindicating McCarthy, while in fact they do largely the opposite. Comments focus on some genuine (though disputed) cases in which McCarthy had a peripheral involvement and completely ignore the colossal failure and disgusting tactics of his 1953-54 witch hunt. I wonder if these people believe McCarthy’s claim that General Marshall and President Eisenhower were commie conspirators? Evans’s latest project, Stalin’s Secret Agents: The Subversion of Roosevelt’s Government, is aimed largely at discrediting US World War II policy. It is of a piece with Patrick Buchanan’s masterpiece, Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War. This is reflected in the long-standing but seldom stated John Birch Society claim that the US fought on the wrong side in WWII or should at least have stayed neutral while the Nazis and the Japanese militarists looted and slaughtered their way through the rest of the world.
Chris Christie has gone from 2016 contender to persona non grata in just a few months:
He really has fallen a long way since October with them. I don’t like Chris Christie at all but it really says a lot about that party and ideology that they’d shit on him and make him persona non grata because he asked for aid for his state following a natural disaster. Anyhow, he’s too good for them and I say that as someone who doesn’t like Christie.
Wingnut spambots swarming TGDN, the only way you can tell them from the regular wingnuts is the random collection of letters in the account name & no Benghazi twibbon.
All because he did the right thing by his NJ constituents by working with the Obama Administration and coming out and saying that he’s going to do what he needs to do to make sure NJ gets the disaster aid it needs and deserves.
That caused a whole lot of butthurt among GOPers and TPers, so they’re now taking it out on him.
Yet, doing so might actually be a liberating moment for Christie since he doesn’t need the conservatives to win reelection in NJ and could hasten the crackup of the GOP generally. Christie might be about the only GOPer in a 2016 field who has a chance of winning a blue state. Everyone else who is considering a run has no chance, and isn’t likely to expand the map from what Romney did last year.
Rubio? Jindal? Bachmann? Santorum? Paul?
Santorum comes closest, having represented PA in the past, but they tossed him out of office and he couldn’t even win his home state in the 2012 primaries.
That goes to just how the GOP is marginalizing itself to a Southern strategy and lacking a candidate that can appeal outside of the socon havens.
All because he did the right thing by his NJ constituents by working with the Obama Administration and coming out and saying that he’s going to do what he needs to do to make sure NJ gets the disaster aid it needs and deserves.
That caused a whole lot of butthurt among GOPers and TPers, so they’re now taking it out on him.
Yet, doing so might actually be a liberating moment for Christie since he doesn’t need the conservatives to win reelection in NJ and could hasten the crackup of the GOP generally. Christie might be about the only GOPer in a 2016 field who has a chance of winning a blue state. Everyone else who is considering a run has no chance, and isn’t likely to expand the map from what Romney did last year.
Rubio? Jindal? Bachmann? Santorum? Paul?
Santorum comes closest, having represented PA in the past, but they tossed him out of office and he couldn’t even win his home state in the 2012 primaries.
That goes to just how the GOP is marginalizing itself to a Southern strategy and lacking a candidate that can appeal outside of the socon havens.
Sorry, Meghan. The current state of the GOP is what happens when you spend 40+ years openly appealing to the bigots, the ignorant, and the mouth-breathers. It’s going to take a long, long time for the Republican party to recover, if they manage it at all.
He really has fallen a long way since October with them. I don’t like Chris Christie at all but it really says a lot about that party and ideology that they’d shit on him and make him persona non grata because he asked for aid for his state following a natural disaster. Anyhow, he’s too good for them and I say that as someone who doesn’t like Christie.
It’s not like he’s an Obama-loving pinko commie either. He pretty much checks off almost all of the weaponized-wingnut boxes, but just like Huntsman, even the slightest amount of bipartisanship with Obama and you’re a leper to them. The media drones on and on about the need to work together, bipartisanship, and reaching across aisles, but the second a Republican does it, they’re immediately voted off the island.
But, hey, it works for me, because the Republicans will continue to shit on their only nationally electable candidates in favor of fire-breathing morons who pander to their ODS.
[Link: gawker.com…]
In which the Million Moms better known for saying Ellen DeGeneres’s problem is she coneys an image of LGBT people being “too nice and normal” and freaking out over her in JCPenney complain about Geico promoting bestiality. Also included my new favorite Geico ad. Mutumbo was such a fun center to watch back in the day and he’s a great humanitarian too.
All because he did the right thing by his NJ constituents by working with the Obama Administration and coming out and saying that he’s going to do what he needs to do to make sure NJ gets the disaster aid it needs and deserves.
That caused a whole lot of butthurt among GOPers and TPers, so they’re now taking it out on him.
Yet, doing so might actually be a liberating moment for Christie since he doesn’t need the conservatives to win reelection in NJ and could hasten the crackup of the GOP generally. Christie might be about the only GOPer in a 2016 field who has a chance of winning a blue state. Everyone else who is considering a run has no chance, and isn’t likely to expand the map from what Romney did last year.
Rubio? Jindal? Bachmann? Santorum? Paul?
Santorum comes closest, having represented PA in the past, but they tossed him out of office and he couldn’t even win his home state in the 2012 primaries.
That goes to just how the GOP is marginalizing itself to a Southern strategy and lacking a candidate that can appeal outside of the socon havens.
Yes, one of the few who could win a blue state. That basically means he can’t win the primaries, where all the voters are basically shades of red.
[Link: gawker.com…]
In which the Million Moms better known for saying Ellen DeGeneres’s problem is she coneys an image of LGBT people being “too nice and normal” and freaking out over her in JCPenney complain about Geico promoting bestiality. Also included my new favorite Geico ad. Mutumbo was such a fun center to watch back in the day and he’s a great humanitarian too.
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Geez. Get a grip people. The GEICO ad is a METAPHOR. It’s not an actual pig, it’s how the girl sees her date.
It’s not like he’s an Obama-loving pinko commie either. He pretty much checks off almost all of the weaponized-wingnut boxes, but just like Huntsman, even the slightest amount of bipartisanship with Obama and you’re a leper to them. The media drones on and on about the need to work together, bipartisanship, and reaching across aisles, but the second a Republican does it, they’re immediately voted off the island.
But, hey, it works for me, because the Republicans will continue to shit on their only nationally electable candidates in favor of fire-breathing morons who pander to their ODS.
Yeah, they loved him until he appeared with Obama after Sandy and was appreciative of the fact that the feds were helping him. I think Christie’s going to get the Huntsman treatment in the 2016 primary. Two term(assuming he’s re-elected which I think is reasonable) governor with good conservative creds but doesn’t view Obama like the devil. They’re going to end up nominating someone unacceptable to most Americans and then they’ll bitch yet again that their nominee wasn’t conservative enough.
I wonder if they realize that Simple J. Malarkey lost them the House for the next 40 years. Insinuating that the American electorate wasn’t pure enough in 1954 doesn’t seem like much of an electoral strategy.
Geez. Get a grip people. The GEICO ad is a METAPHOR. It’s not an actual pig, it’s how the girl sees her date.
As I said, it’s the Million Moms who flipped their shit over Ellen appearing in a JC Penney ad and they even admitted that Ellen’s “problem” is she doesn’t portray their image as a GLBT person being an immoral freak.
Yes, one of the few who could win a blue state. That basically means he can’t win the primaries, where all the voters are basically shades of red.
I honestly think he was going to have this problem even before he asked for Sandy aid money. Christie’s style just doesn’t seem to be what one needs to win the early Republican primaries. Seems to me that most of the Republicans nominated in recent memory either have a rural or suburban type style. Christie very much is urban New Jersey. I just didn’t and especially don’t see that now flying in early states like South Carolina, New Hampshire, and Iowa. NH would be his best shot of those three. I think he’ll end up like Huntsman or Giuliani. Someone hypothetically ivable in a national election but rejected because he doesn’t always tell the GOP primary voters what they want to hear.
I could see him becoming a VP pick for whoever comes out of those primaries. He’d make a great attack dog for whoever is at the top of the ticket instead of a moron like Palin or a pathetic little weasel like Ryan, plus bump their ‘bipartisany’ street-cred with the indies. They might even peel off Jersey or something if the Dems shit the bed with their candidate (if it’s an unknown assuming Hillary or Biden aren’t in it).
I honestly think he was going to have this problem even before he asked for Sandy aid money. Christie’s style just doesn’t seem to be what one needs to win the early Republican primaries. Seems to me that most of the Republicans nominated in recent memory either have a rural or suburban type style. Christie very much is urban New Jersey. I just didn’t and especially don’t see that now flying in early states like South Carolina, New Hampshire, and Iowa. NH would be his best shot of those three. I think he’ll end up like Huntsman or Giuliani. Someone hypothetically ivable in a national election but rejected because he doesn’t always tell the GOP primary voters what they want to hear.
Urban style would REALLY help the GOP, given that the majority of people actually live in urban areas.
Frankly, her father had a part to play in that. I like Meaghan. She seems like a nice person and not filled with the so-con rage that dominates her party but she’s delusional about what her party really is.
I’ll take her bullshit seriously when she walks up to dear old Dad and kicks him straight in the balls. He’s one of the primary examples of what has gone wrong with the GOP.
I’ll take her bullshit seriously when she walks up to dear old Dad and kicks him straight in the balls. He’s one of the primary examples of what has gone wrong with the GOP.
Soooooooooooooooon offfffffffffffff a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch. Shit after watching Flight on Friday night, I’m nervous about flying next month. Really hope that’s not an in flight movie.
[douche]”We took off in our Green Jet and bombed two schools, a water treatment plant and a hospital, I’ve never been so proud of my Sustainable Green Military.”
Wow! Freeper “searching 1-2-3” is in the middle of a one-person uprising against the “McCarthy was right” mob.
The messages in this thread contain factual ignorance which is truly breathtaking.
I understand the desire to pretend that McCarthy never made a mistake or that he had some sort of exceptional insights which his critics did not want to acknowledge as accurate.
I suggest that everyone here review the FBI investigative file captioned “Alleged Communists in the State Department” (FBI HQ file 121-23278). It eviscerates most of the assertions made by McCarthy.
As the former Assistant Director of the FBI wrote in his 1979 memoir about McCarthy’s claim regarding “57” Communists in the State Department:
“We didn’t have enough evidence to show there was a single Communist in the State Department, let alone fifty-seven cases.”
As FBI Special Agent Robert Lamphere wrote in his 1968 book, “The FBI-KGB War: A Special Agent’s Story”,
“McCarthy’s star chamber proceedings, his lies and overstatements hurt our counterintelligence efforts.”
He also quotes this gem from the anti-McCarthy literature:
“The Communist Party in this country has attempted to infiltrate and subvert every segment of our society, but its continuing efforts have not achieved success of any substance. Too many self-styled experts on communism, without valid credentials and without any access whatsoever to classified factual data regarding the inner workings of the conspiracy, have engaged in rumor-mongering and hurling false and wholly unsubstantiated allegations against persons whose views differ from their own. This is dangerous business. It is divisive and unintelligent, and makes more difficult the task of the professional investigator.”
This was written by none other than the noted comsymp J. Edgar Hoover, in a February 5, 1962 letter to Mrs. W.R. Brown of Bountiful Utah.
Searching 123’s website, McCarthy, is a gold mine on McCarthy’s errors and fabrications, including much information from declassified FBI reports.
Soooooooooooooooon offfffffffffffff a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch. Shit after watching Flight on Friday night, I’m nervous about flying next month. Really hope that’s not an in flight movie.
Airlines do not include movies about aircraft disasters as part of their in flight entertainment selections, for obvious reasons.
ALSO: DO NOT GET BOOK by Dana Haynes, for same reason.
what a stupid piece of propaganda. Mother Jones should be ashamed posting this militarist garbage. Did you drop any toxic DU munitions on children from your Green Death Machine before you landed?
Fucktard.
Doesn’t even know what DU means nor that they aren’t in bombs.
Also, militarist?
Lol.
These fucktards who co-opt the Holocaust for their own gun control paranoid delusions are enraging.
I don’t even know where to start with how wrong that is. I mean not just the attempt to equate gun control with the Holocaust but to claim that the victims of the Holocaust were killed by “their government” is dishonest too.
I don’t even know where to start with how wrong that is. I mean not just the attempt to equate gun control with the Holocaust but to claim that the victims of the Holocaust were killed by “their government” is dishonest too.
In most cases they were killed by a conquering government, not their own.
I don’t even know where to start with how wrong that is. I mean not just the attempt to equate gun control with the Holocaust but to claim that the victims of the Holocaust were killed by “their government” is dishonest too.
For some reason, the Holocaust has come to be viewed merely as a symbol of a people oppressed and persecuted by a tyrannical government.
The particulars and details don’t matter, it’s just the “Big bad government destroying the little people who only want freedom” narrative that’s of interest.
For some reason, the Holocaust has come to be viewed merely as a symbol of a people oppressed and persecuted by a tyrannical government.
The particulars and details don’t matter, it’s just the “Big bad government destroying the little people who only want freedom” narrative that’s of interest.
I have also noticed that almost everyone at TGDN who has posted a Godwin Tweet, or includes the flag of Israel in their avatar, describes themselves in their Twitter profile as “Christian.”
That said, there are sadly too many Jewish wingnuts who have called me a JINO for supporting Obama.
It’s a stupid argument really because any military conqueror is going to confiscate guns among a civilian population. Really, to act like gun control caused the Holocaust is such an insulting thing to do to the victims of the Holocaust. And shit, Obama’s not even proposing mass gun confiscation. Really these people want to be victims so bad and make Red Dawn into a fucking documentary so bad.
It’s used in avgas, not jet fuel. Jet fuel is a different composition from avgas (which is used in small planes, like Cessnas). But there’s a move to phase out the lead in avgas, which might actually result in avgas being phased out in favor of another kind of fuel.
It’s a stupid argument really because any military conqueror is going to confiscate guns among a civilian population. Really, to act like gun control caused the Holocaust is such an insulting thing to do to the victims of the Holocaust. And shit, Obama’s not even proposing mass gun confiscation. Really these people want to be victims so bad and make Red Dawn into a fucking documentary so bad.
They don’t care about insulting victims of the Holocaust, they only want to co-opt the Holocaust so that they can portray themselves as the victims.
I keep asking the wingnuts, “If Obama is exactly like Hitler, how come you are not in TwitterAuschwitz.” So far the only response is to scream BLOCK BABUSHKA TEH LIBRUL TROLL!
I have also noticed that almost everyone at TGDN who has posted a Godwin Tweet, or includes the flag of Israel in their avatar, describes themselves in their Twitter profile as “Christian.”
That said, there are sadly too many Jewish wingnuts who have called me a JINO for supporting Obama.
Your religious beliefs are not determined by whom you support at the polls.
I know you know that, I’m just saying things like that, that grate on you as a Jewish person, also grate on me as a Christian.
Your religious beliefs are not determined by whom you support at the polls.
I know you know that, I’m just saying things like that, that grate on you as a Jewish person, also grate on me as a Christian.
I can make political decisions that are not tied to my religious beliefs and practices. That said, I would not vote for an outright anti-Semite, or an outright racist, since such a person would also be a poor choice politically.
Hamas spokesman on Tuesday denied that the rocket that exploded in Ashkelon earlier in the day was fired from Gaza, Palestinian news agency Ma’an reported.
“This is only a lie. None of the Gaza Strip factions claimed responsibility for firing that missile, and the government is checking all the details,” Ma’an quoted Ehab al-Ghussein as saying in a statement.
The Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for firing the rocket.
Glad to see Hagel’s finally getting his vote and the GOP are being exposed for what they are…TV camera addicted drama queens. At least we’ve heard the last of Benghazi…I hope.
Glad to see Hagel’s finally getting his vote and the GOP are being exposed for what they are…TV camera addicted drama queens. At least we’ve heard the last of Benghazi…I hope.
McCain and Huckleberry are shameless showboating old cranks. They should both be ashamed of themselves.
Well, this is the cloture vote to bring to the floor for a full vote.
And when Hagel does come up for the actual confirmation vote, he will be confirmed, but the actual votes for and against will probably differ by a couple of votes. Some GOPers may strategically opt to vote against him in the confirmation, but wanted to bring it to a floor vote to get it off the table from a political standpoint.
Well, this is the cloture vote to bring to the floor for a full vote.
And when Hagel does come up for the actual confirmation vote, he will be confirmed, but the actual votes for and against will probably differ by a couple of votes. Some GOPers may strategically opt to vote against him in the confirmation, but wanted to bring it to a floor vote to get it off the table from a political standpoint.
Yeah I see that now. Thought this was the confirmation vote until I realized it was just the the cloture.
Pretty much. McCain made a big shit fit out of Benghazi but acted like the thought of investigating the Iraq War was a waste of time because that was something he proudly supported.
That’s what I get when I read too many Fischer tweets. Can we take him down now?
It’s what I get when I remember that there are people who take this guy seriously. A guy whose lesson from the Nazis is that it’s a okay to discriminate against gay people.
Since the GZ/Trayvon case is back in the news a little bit, I’m kinda curious about the Stand Your Ground issue. After all for very different reasons, we would just about all agree it should not apply. Even his defense attorney rejects it for his own reasons. Both sides agree it’s a non starter.
So, why is the case still closely associated with that debate in media coverage? Limited media attention span? Lack of nuance? Ratings ratings ratings? Seems to me the stand your ground debate needs to shift to another case or cases.
“Every time the blade has a downward motion it gives off a tremendous energy, gives off a pulse,” said Andersen. “And that pulse, it gets into your tubular organs, chest cavity, mimics a heartbeat, gives you headaches. It’s extremely disturbing and it gets to the point where you have to leave.”
OK. Maybe these wind turbines were faulty. It could have been a technical matter. Noise creates sleep deprivation. Sleep deprivation will cause headaches and dizziness. Now this will set an example for the AGW deniers? I give up.
Glad to see Hagel’s finally getting his vote and the GOP are being exposed for what they are…TV camera addicted drama queens. At least we’ve heard the last of Benghazi…I hope.
Nah, Brennan’s nomination for CIA director is getting threats from Inhofe to have a hold put on it unless the White House gives him the answers he’s looking for on Benghazi.
OK. Maybe these wind turbines were faulty. It could have been a technical matter. Noise creates sleep deprivation. Sleep deprivation will cause headaches and dizziness. Now this will set an example for the AGW deniers? I give up.
So cloture will be voted for overwhelmingly, meaning that Hagel will be SecDef by week’s end. In which case, allow me to pass on a sentiment to all the wingnuts who worked their little asses off trying to sink this nomination, courtesy of Mr. Wonka:
He understands that the Medicaid expansion comes with federal funds that he’s hoping will help close the state deficit and will reduce costs to the state over the long term.
It’s the same rationale that other GOPers who opposed Obamacare have realized and recognized as the implementation of the state-run exchanges needs to get underway ahead of the 2014 deadline.
He’s going to cruise to re-election and then struggle in the GOP primaries. THe ultimate Catch-22. Be a better leader for your state means not being conservative enough for GOP primary voters.
He understands that the Medicaid expansion comes with federal funds that he’s hoping will help close the state deficit and will reduce costs to the state over the long term.
It’s the same rationale that other GOPers who opposed Obamacare have realized and recognized as the implementation of the state-run exchanges needs to get underway ahead of the 2014 deadline.
It’s almost as if… *gasp*…
slashing state taxes means you can’t pay for the benefits your constituents expect to receive without federal help!
The nutters on Twitter are being reasonable again:
Heh.
Haha, some things never change and that’s the right black and white way of looking at things. I’m not “happy” that Hagel’s the next Sec Def but I think he will make a good one because he’s not a kneejerk war hawk.
Since the GZ/Trayvon case is back in the news a little bit, I’m kinda curious about the Stand Your Ground issue. After all for very different reasons, we would just about all agree it should not apply. Even his defense attorney rejects it for his own reasons. Both sides agree it’s a non starter.
So, why is the case still closely associated with that debate in media coverage? Limited media attention span? Lack of nuance? Ratings ratings ratings? Seems to me the stand your ground debate needs to shift to another case or cases.
I think the critics of Stand Your Ground laws saw it as an opportunity to get rid of the law. The mantra started even before the details of the case were known and now it’s just become associated with the case even though it may not be relevant. The press coverage is just lazy and mentions of Stand Your Ground laws gets easy clicks from activists.
We see this all the time. When there’s a tragedy the noisiest people start pointing finders at their favorite target and wheeling out their favorite pet projects. Most of it’s just a preplanned agenda, not enough people are really interested in the tragedy in question.
Older generation, there are reports the system was damaged prior to assembly - one of the towers was making noise above state allowed from the day it was assembled. (State limit is 10 db above background). Oh, and somehow a waiver was given so they were assembled closer to existing residential structures than normally allowed.
But they’re still going to be used by the anti-wind crowd.
Wingnut links me to an editorial from Krauthammer, where the pocket Nostradamus is once again opining that the GOP is the “winner” in something, this time over the sequester. That they “called Obama’s bluff” because they haven’t agreed to more revenues in order to avoid the sequester. And, of course, he’s confident that Obama will come out of this looking worse than the GOP will.
Wingnut links me to an editorial from Krauthammer, where the pocket Nostradamus is once again opining that the GOP is the “winner” in something, this time over the sequester. That they “called Obama’s bluff” because they haven’t agreed to more revenues in order to avoid the sequester. And, of course, he’s confident that Obama will come out of this looking worse than the GOP will.
Wingnut links me to an editorial from Krauthammer, where the pocket Nostradamus is once again opining that the GOP is the “winner” in something, this time over the sequester. That they “called Obama’s bluff” because they haven’t agreed to more revenues in order to avoid the sequester. And, of course, he’s confident that Obama will come out of this looking worse than the GOP will.
Krauthammer being a water carrying hack for the GOP. What else is new for the Chuckster.
These fucktards who co-opt the Holocaust for their own gun control paranoid delusions are enraging.
These people have no idea how ignorant and dishonest they seem to anyone who knows about that era. The German war machine was monstrous, the state security apparatus the most ruthless and efficient in history. For example, the Germans launched their offensive against France and the low countries on May 10, 1940. The Netherlands collapsed in five days. Belgium, with a million troops ready and dug in, held out for two weeks before they surrendered. The British Expeditionary Force, outflanked, fled across the Channel, leaving not just its heavy equipment but even its rifles and boots in some cases on the beach at Dunkerque. The 3 million man French army, with more and better tanks than the Germans, and far better artillery, lasted another three weeks. It took five years and millions of casualties for a coalition of 50+ countries to beat the life out of this monster. Yet these fools think civilians with small arms could have held them off well enough to save a targeted population.
These people have no idea how ignorant and dishonest they seem to anyone who knows about that era. The German war machine was monstrous, the state security apparatus the most ruthless and efficient in history. For example, the Germans launched their offensive against France and the low countries on May 10, 1940. The Netherlands collapsed in five days. Belgium, with a million troops ready and dug in, held out for two weeks before they surrendered. The British Expeditionary Force, outflanked, fled across the Channel, leaving not just its heavy equipment but even its rifles and boots in some cases on the beach at Dunkerque. The 3 million man French army, with more and better tanks than the Germans, and far better artillery, lasted another three weeks. It took five years and millions of casualties for a coalition of 50+ countries to beat the life out of this monster. Yet these fools think civilians with small arms could have held them off well enough to save a targeted population.
Well, they also have fantasies that their GUNZ will win when they try a do-over of that thing that went so badly in 1861-1865.
These people have no idea how ignorant and dishonest they seem to anyone who knows about that era. The German war machine was monstrous, the state security apparatus the most ruthless and efficient in history. For example, the Germans launched their offensive against France and the low countries on May 10, 1940. The Netherlands collapsed in five days. Belgium, with a million troops ready and dug in, held out for two weeks before they surrendered. The British Expeditionary Force, outflanked, fled across the Channel, leaving not just its heavy equipment but even its rifles and boots in some cases on the beach at Dunkerque. The 3 million man French army, with more and better tanks than the Germans, and far better artillery, lasted another three weeks. It took five years and millions of casualties for a coalition of 50+ countries to beat the life out of this monster. Yet these fools think civilians with small arms could have held them off well enough to save a targeted population.
Honestly that it took five years is a small miracle in itself. But yeah the idea that armed civilians would have prevented the Holocaust from happening is silly and even more is the suggestion that the the Holocaust happened because of gun control.
Wasn’t Krauthammer among those who predicted a Romney win?
Magical Thinking has become SOP for GOP.
Yep. He also advised them to refuse to make a deal on the fiscal cliff, that Lee had gotten better terms at Appomattox than the GOP was getting from Obama, and that they should just let the whole thing crash because it would look bad for Obama to be seen as “raising taxes.”
I think the critics of Stand Your Ground laws saw it as an opportunity to get rid of the law. The mantra started even before the details of the case were known and now it’s just become associated with the case even though it may not be relevant. The press coverage is just lazy and mentions of Stand Your Ground laws gets easy clicks from activists.
We see this all the time. When there’s a tragedy the noisiest people start pointing finders at their favorite target and wheeling out their favorite pet projects. Most of it’s just a preplanned agenda, not enough people are really interested in the tragedy in question.
Wasn’t SYG the reason Zimmerman was let off in the first place?
The Krauthammer view is one shared by one who actually shapesblocks policy - Eric Cantor.
Cantor thinks that each time the GOP kills the chances for a compromise that it benefits the GOP and somehow harms Obama.
He’s been wrong - spectacularly so - twice, and yet the GOP is committed to the same exact policy yet again.
The GOP could have gotten a decent deal that gives them a whole lot of what they want, without throwing the economy into a blender, but opted not to because it could give the Democrats something too.
The GOP has adopted a zero-sum game on politics that eschews compromise. And the nation suffers as a result.
Yep. He also advised them to refuse to make a deal on the fiscal cliff, that Lee had gotten better terms at Appomattox than the GOP was getting from Obama, and that they should just let the whole thing crash because it would look bad for Obama to be seen as “raising taxes.”
He may be right on Appomattox. I definitely wouldn’t give any defeated Republicans a day’s rations or let them keep their horses.
The Krauthammer view is one shared by one who actually shapesblocks policy - Eric Cantor.
Cantor thinks that each time the GOP kills the chances for a compromise that it benefits the GOP and somehow harms Obama.
He’s been wrong - spectacularly so - twice, and yet the GOP is committed to the same exact policy yet again.
The GOP could have gotten a decent deal that gives them a whole lot of what they want, without throwing the economy into a blender, but opted not to because it could give the Democrats something too.
The GOP has adopted a zero-sum game on politics that eschews compromise. And the nation suffers as a result.
He’s insane. It really is too bad that there’s no way in hell he’s ever going to lose his seat unless there’s a really, really Democratic year and Cantor is involved in a scandal.
The Krauthammer view is one shared by one who actually shapesblocks policy - Eric Cantor.
Cantor thinks that each time the GOP kills the chances for a compromise that it benefits the GOP and somehow harms Obama.
He’s been wrong - spectacularly so - twice, and yet the GOP is committed to the same exact policy yet again.
The GOP could have gotten a decent deal that gives them a whole lot of what they want, without throwing the economy into a blender, but opted not to because it could give the Democrats something too.
The GOP has adopted a zero-sum game on politics that eschews compromise. And the nation suffers as a result.
And they’re not helping their message now by overriding all the doom-and-gloom predictions about the horrors of the sequester by trying to argue that it “won’t be that bad.” Except, you know, for the “hollowing out of the military” which they totally want to avoid. The rest of the cuts? They couldn’t give a shit less.
Yeah it’s just like that. Really fuck you Bryan, fuck you so much for comparing the death of innocent people in World War II to my friends being able to marry who they love, you fucking disgusting asshole. Sorry to get so angry but I am so sick of Fischer comparing homosexuals having rights to the Nazis. It angers me so much on so many levels.
These people have no idea how ignorant and dishonest they seem to anyone who knows about that era. The German war machine was monstrous, the state security apparatus the most ruthless and efficient in history. For example, the Germans launched their offensive against France and the low countries on May 10, 1940. The Netherlands collapsed in five days. Belgium, with a million troops ready and dug in, held out for two weeks before they surrendered. The British Expeditionary Force, outflanked, fled across the Channel, leaving not just its heavy equipment but even its rifles and boots in some cases on the beach at Dunkerque. The 3 million man French army, with more and better tanks than the Germans, and far better artillery, lasted another three weeks. It took five years and millions of casualties for a coalition of 50+ countries to beat the life out of this monster. Yet these fools think civilians with small arms could have held them off well enough to save a targeted population.
They’re kinda insulting when they use epithets like “tyranny” and “marxists” when some of us actually have relatives who live under tyranny and Marxism.
Wasn’t SYG the reason Zimmerman was let off in the first place?
I seem to recall the lack of evidence was the reason given. A lot of people interpreted that to mean he could invoke SYG. It does make prosecutions more difficult in some cases. Zimmerman’s defense team may still use the law in their defense, they’ll use any tool available. Although with his version of the story it wouldn’t necessarily apply to his situation.
I seem to recall the lack of evidence was the reason given. A lot of people interpreted that to mean he could invoke SYG. It does make prosecutions more difficult in some cases. Zimmerman’s defense team may still use the law in their defense, they’ll use any tool available. Although with his version of the story it wouldn’t necessarily apply to his situation.
Was the victims body hidden from the police at the time? Were they not able to find a murder weapon? Could they not find the purported shooter? Was there no possible motive? What evidence was lacking?
I seem to recall the lack of evidence was the reason given. A lot of people interpreted that to mean he could invoke SYG. It does make prosecutions more difficult in some cases. Zimmerman’s defense team may still use the law in their defense, they’ll use any tool available. Although with his version of the story it wouldn’t necessarily apply to his situation.
According to this report, SYG was cited as the reason
According to the paper, the night of the shooting the State Attorney’s Office was consulted but a prosecutor was never sent to the scene of the shooting.
At the time, Police Chief Bill Lee cited the state’s “Stand Your Ground” law and stated publicly there was no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman based on the statute. This sparked outrage and cries for justice across the nation.
Was the victims body hidden from the police at the time? Were they not able to find a murder weapon? Could they not find the purported shooter? Was there no possible motive? What evidence was lacking?
Indication that Zimmerman was engaged in anything other than self-defense at the time of the shooting.
Was the victims body hidden from the police at the time?
Not at all, and neither was Zimmerman (meaning, he didn’t flee the scene)
Were they not able to find a murder weapon?
Zimmerman either handed it to them or it hadn’t been moved from the ground when they (the cops) showed up Could they not find the purported shooter?
Again, Z never left the scene
Was there no possible motive?
There were/ are many “possible” motives, ranging from pre-meditated to accidental.
What evidence was lacking?
None “lacking”, but some contradictory
AND ,, all of the above is why there will be a trial and either a conviction or an acquittal
I never said it would be used.
WW asked if SYG was the original reason Zimmerman was let go.
KT replied he thought it was lack of evidence.
I linked to an article where the police chief cited the SYG statute as the reason he was let go originally.
Was the victims body hidden from the police at the time?
Not at all, and neither was Zimmerman (meaning, he didn’t flee the scene)
Were they not able to find a murder weapon?
Zimmerman either handed it to them or it hadn’t been moved from the ground when they (the cops) showed up Could they not find the purported shooter?
Again, Z never left the scene
Was there no possible motive?
There were/ are many “possible” motives, ranging from pre-meditated to accidental.
What evidence was lacking?
None “lacking”, but some contradictory
AND ,, all of the above is why there will be a trial and either a conviction or an acquittal
So to follow on the thread start, stand your ground was never invoked. I can shoot a person, stand there, wait for the cops, tell them sorry I had to do it, he scared me. I will then be let go to resume my evening? Try that in PA and your ass will be in jail with a hefty bond until your hearings. You will not sleep in your bed that night nor probably the next several.
But it was cited as the reason Zimmerman was let go. The police chief said they didn’t have enough evidence to overcome a claim of SYG if it were made, which they assumed it would. They messed up in not holding him for charges, but they messed up based on the difficulty of prosecutions with SYG on the books.
4. ‘Stand your ground’ law doesn’t apply, defendant’s lawyers say
…. Zimmerman’s lawyers say it doesn’t apply to his case, at least not exactly.
“In this particular case, George did not have an ability to retreat because he was on the ground with Trayvon Martin mounting him, striking blows, therefore the Stand Your Ground ‘benefit’ given by the statute simply does not apply to the facts of George’s case: it is traditional self-defense,” Zimmerman’s attorneys said on the web site detailing his legal case.
But they do intend to ask a judge to apply the immunity provisions of Florida’s self-defense law to stave off a trial on the charges.
Neither is me walking down the street behind the pesron that stole my girlfriend, until I decide to throttle him to death.
And if I can show in a court of law that you followed him with the intent to kill him, then I have a case for murder. So far, the prosecution in the Zimmerman case doesn’t even have that.
No, you would be. Case in point from end of last summer. Friend was home, a female friend of his called and said she was afraid her boyfriend would hurt her (he had a history of violence), friend told her to come over to get away from it. She does, boyfriend heads over after being told by someone where she was, breaks in the door, threatens my friend, says he is going to kill both of them, friend fills him with buckshot (in his own house being threatened). Friend spends week in jail awaiting hearing, is let go, but after week in jail, for shooting a threatening person IN HIS OWN FUCKING HOME, not on some back street IN HIS OWN FUCKING HOME.
And if I can show in a court of law that you followed him with the intent to kill him, then I have a case for murder. So far, the prosecution in the Zimmerman case doesn’t even have that.
This discussion has gotten nowhere before, it will go nowhere now.
And “a” anecdote doesn’t negate what is on PA’s books as law
Pennsylvania passed the similar law in June 2011.
A fundamental change in Pennsylvania’s self-defense law was that it no longer requires a homeowner or an average citizen in almost any location to retreat from an attacker. If there is a threat, violence can be the first response.
The law also protects a person who acts in self-defense from civil lawsuits by an attacker or attacker’s family.
The PA law was altered in 2011. I know you said ‘last June”, but could it have been the prior one before the amendment??
This discussion has gotten nowhere before, it will go nowhere now.
Which is rather my point. Those who wish to believe that Zimmerman went out that night with the intent to kill a black kid will continue to believe that, even past the even of the trial. If he’s convicted, they’ll feel that “justice” was served. If he’s acquitted or even let off on SYG grounds, they’ll rant and rave about how he “got away with murder.”
And if I can show in a court of law that you followed him with the intent to kill him, then I have a case for murder. So far, the prosecution in the Zimmerman case doesn’t even have that.
And that’s what the case will hinge on as I stated in 277
None “lacking” (evidence), but some contradictory
AND ,, all of the above is why there will be a trial and either a conviction or an acquittal
Which is rather my point. Those who wish to believe that Zimmerman went out that night with the intent to kill a black kid will continue to believe that, even past the even of the trial. If he’s convicted, they’ll feel that “justice” was served. If he’s acquitted or even let off on SYG grounds, they’ll rant and rave about how he “got away with murder.”
Correct, just as conversely those that wish to believe that Z was the victim of an attack ,and he acted in self defense, IF he’s convicted they’ll rant and rave about how he was railroaded
And if I can show in a court of law that you followed him with the intent to kill him, then I have a case for murder. So far, the prosecution in the Zimmerman case doesn’t even have that.
Zimmerman is charged with murder 2, not pre-meditated murder 1.
No one is claiming he went out that night or followed Martin with the intention to murder him.
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The key to winning the Latino vote is rejecting immigration reform, conservative pundit Ann Coulter said Tuesday. Coulter offered her bad advice during an appearance on Fox News personality Sean Hannity's radio show, where she continued to rail against the possibility of a bipartisan immigration reform bill passing the U.S. Congress "We can win Hispanics," Coulter said. "We can't win them if we keep ...
As a reformed wingnut, I recall those times. There's a whole fringe camp out there full of folks just like Bill Ayers who are upset with our President for not being the far left revolutionary that they really want him to be. These hard bitten partisans are willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with the hard right right whenever the opportunity presents to fling ...
Phoenix police said they arrested a man Wednesday morning for allegedly having sexual contact with three young girls. Police said they arrested Christopher Allen Simcox, 52, in the area of Van Buren Street and 51st Avenue at around 10 a.m. Police have not released any details about the allegations, saying only that detectives with the Family Investigations Bureau of the Phoenix Police Department had ...
Conservative actor John Ratzenberger, who is best known as the character "Cliff" from the television sitcom Cheers, on Friday called for former Rep. Allen West (R-FL) to take "something from his gene pool" and "put it everywhere across this great country." Ratzenberger was introducing West at the Faith and Freedom Coalition's Road to Majority conference. He also called West a "real American." "We should ...
While my anger and disbelief did not subside, I soon moved to sadness. Do you live in such a protected bubble that you would blame the victim of rape and excuse the perpetrators? Many have joined you in this victim blaming...unfortunately that is the culture in which we live. Your contribution to this culture as a role model for girls and women makes your ...
From feministing.com Turns out Reddit - home of pedophiles, ephibists and other "Jelly Belly" lovers now is putting out a book! Advice offered? Get CLOSE to her, damn it! To quote Rob Judge, “Personal space is for pussies.” I already told you that the most successful seducers are those who can’t keep their hands off of women. Well you’re not gonna be able to ...
Earlier this year, the Republican National Committee released a 100-page report detailing how the GOP needed to retrofit its agenda and soften its tone. But if Republican officials had wanted to save time, they could have issued a shorthand summary that read: Be less like Steve King. The Iowa congressman's outspoken conservatism embodies the kind of politics that, in the RNC's own words, alienates ...
Reuters: But even the press in aggregate is not a friend to whistle-blowers, as its recent treatment of Snowden attests, what with the deep dives into his teen years (including photos), his education and employment history, his reputation as a loner and a “brainiac,” his pants-down hijinks, his online scribblings, his dancer girlfriend, his predilection for (in his own words) “post-coital Krispy Kremes.” Squeezing ...
Senior bankers guilty of reckless misconduct should be jailed, a long-awaited report on banking commissioned by the government has recommended. The Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards was set up by Chancellor George Osborne last year after a number of scandals involving the industry. Jail reckless bankers, standards commission urgesThe cross-party group's fifth report attacked the lack of accountability of bankers and also said some ...
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LE BOURGET, France — Boeing Co. won major orders from five customers for a stretched-out version of its popular 787 Dreamliner jet at the Paris Air Show Tuesday, further evidence of a strengthening market for more expensive long-haul jets.Boeing announced the formal launch of its 787-10 program at the Paris Air Show on Tuesday and says it already has commitments for 102 jets from ...
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When Laura Gambrel, 22, of Zionsville, Ind., graduated from Indiana University in May, she wanted to keep the celebration pretty low key. She didn’t walk at the ceremony, nor did she have a party because she planned to go right back to the university this coming fall for grad school. It seemed only fitting then that the one thing her mother attempted to do ...
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