Hawaii Night Sky Revealed in Stunning New Video

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A new viral time-lapse video depicts the Milky Way over Mauna Kea, Hawaii, in amazing detail, complete with telescopes and dancing laser beams.

Sean Goebel, a graduate student in astronomy at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, created the new Hawaii night sky video from photographs shot on three consecutive nights in April and four nights in the summer of 2013.

Time-lapse of the observatories atop Mauna Kea, Hawaii.

Credit: Sean GoebelView full size image

The film features the night sky progression over Mauna Kea, a 13,803-foot (4,207 meters) mountain on Hawaii’s Big Island, and its many telescopes. The Keck, Gemini and Subaru telescopes each have lasers, which are used to remove the blurring effects of Earth’s atmosphere using adaptive optics.

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302 comments
1 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:33:52am

GOOD LORD! THEY’RE TEARING A HOLE IN THE SKY! RUN!!!!!

2 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:35:12am

re: #1 BongCrodny

GOOD LORD! THEY’RE TEARING A HOLD IN THE SKY! RUN!!!!!

The Doctor will surely save us!

/

3 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:36:19am

re: #2 Targetpractice

The Doctor will surely save us!

/

That’s not a observatory dome, it’s a giant DALEK!

EX-TER-MINATE!!!

4 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:37:38am

GGT, your ring is showing up as my ad.

Did you buy it yet?

5 bratwurst  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:43:05am
6 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:47:31am

re: #4 Stanley Sea

GGT, your ring is showing up as my ad.

Did you buy it yet?

No, I got my yearly allotment for my birthday. I’d like to say I’m satisfied. I can honestly say I’m grateful.

7 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:47:56am

She’s so very VERY sorry…

Exec apologizes for AIDS tweet after social media storm

8 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:52:50am

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s so very VERY sorry…

Exec apologizes for AIDS tweet after social media storm

I so don’t care.

9 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 11:56:57am

re: #8 FemNaziBitch

I so don’t care.

me either.

10 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:00:00pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s so very VERY sorry…

Ex-exec apologizes for AIDS tweet after social media storm

Fixed.

11 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:10:31pm
12 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:11:36pm
13 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:13:00pm

Christmas is coming to the Jockey home, after all. It was a near thing. Nobody seemed to want to actually DO anything about it. The younger boy insisted that we MUST get a tree, it MUST be real, and it MUST NOT be a dinky little thing. Mind you, it’s not like he was going to take any action on his own about it!

So, we were stuck in a stalemate. Mrs. Jockey ambivalent about Christmas AT BEST; me wanting a tree, but not wanting to have to do the whole damned thing myself; the younger boy wanting a tree but not wanting to take any action; the older boy wanting … well, he’s hard to figure out.

Finally, Friday morning I took action. The older boy and I went out in search of tree. Found a lot still open, with a small but very nice selection of good sized trees, all marked down. They were in the process of disassembling things, as this was their last day.

Once the older boy and I went and got a tree, and we figured out where to put it, the floodgates opened, and now we have a beautifully lit tree with nary an ornament (Mrs. Jockey seems to prefer it that way), lights on the house, lights on the mantle, and around the foyer arch.

And Mrs. Jockey is feeling much more Christmassy. It may have helped that the older boy and I made an apple pie.

14 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:14:16pm
15 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:14:27pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

And Mrs. Jockey is feeling much more Christmassy. It may have helped that the older boy and I made an apple pie.

Pie will do that…

16 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:15:44pm

Well, I am thoroughly enjoying the #nothisisreallybullshit twitter thingy.

I love seeing different perspectives. Things I never would have known from diverse groups. The internet is a wonderful thing.

17 ObserverArt  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:17:19pm

I don’t care about Justine either. But, there is a decent point to be made with one aspect of that article on her apology. The time she was in the air after her tweet until she landed is unique to the ‘net social world. As the article is basically saying, she was judged and jury-ed in record time by the social media.

The could be some good in that. There just might be a whole lotta bad in it too.

It’s like the world is one giant Roman Colosseum and the audience gets to view the victim from all over and render a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on that victim without ever being seen, without a fight. And in hours. Unprecedented.

Next step is for people to start to set enemies/adversaries/competition up, get the new ‘net Colosseum to thumbs-down and the results may never get to be changed even if the person never triggered anything to cause it all. Even if the person has absolutely no idea it is going on.

It just feels weird to me. Others?

18 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:18:41pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pie will do that…

Best homemade crust I’ve managed, too. I cut the fat in by hand with a 5-wire pastry blender, instead of using a food processor. There were still visible pockets of butter and Crisco when it was rolled out.

The boy and I made whipped cream to go with it, too, and that was after he made Spaghetti and Meatballs for dinner, with a nice big salad. I may get some use out of him after all.

19 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:23:10pm
20 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:25:25pm

Someone was thinking of Crazy Pam:

21 makeitstop  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:29:10pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

I don’t care about Justine either. But, there is a decent point to be made with one aspect of that article on her apology. The time she was in the air after her tweet until she landed is unique to the ‘net social world. As the article is basically saying, she was judged and jury-ed in record time by the social media.

The could be some good in that. There just might be a whole lotta bad in it too.

It’s like the world is one giant Roman Colosseum and the audience gets to view the victim from all over and render a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on that victim without ever being seen, without a fight. And in hours. Unprecedented.

Next step is for people to start to set enemies/adversaries/competition up, get the new ‘net Colosseum to thumbs-down and the results may never get to be changed even if the person never triggered anything to cause it all. Even if the person has absolutely no idea it is going on.

It just feels weird to me. Others?

I was away from my computer for most of the time when it was all transpiring. I had to Google her name to find out what the hell was up.

My first thought was ‘Jesus, what an idiot.’ My second thought is that people have to learn how to self-censor before they tweet anything.

She seemed very sincere in her apology. But you have to wonder - had she just taken a few seconds to actually read that tweet and considered what she was saying, would she have actually let it fly?

22 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:29:21pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

Merry Christmas to all the Jockeys!

23 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:30:50pm

re: #22 prairiefire

Merry Christmas to all the Jockeys!

Thank’ee kindly! And to you!

24 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:31:51pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

Yes.

25 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:32:09pm

re: #22 prairiefire

How is Fire today?

(thinking of ya)

26 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:32:13pm

re: #23 GeneJockey

Thank’ee kindly! And to you!

Thank you!

27 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:33:10pm

re: #25 Stanley Sea

How is Fire today?

(thinking of ya)

Smoldering. Kinda shaky. No idea what the future will bring. ~~smoooooch~~~~~

28 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:34:31pm

re: #27 prairiefire

Got your back.

29 Belafon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:35:37pm

re: #21 makeitstop

Twitter, like YouTube, would benefit from a “Read it back to me” button.

30 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:35:48pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

I don’t care about Justine either. But, there is a decent point to be made with one aspect of that article on her apology. The time she was in the air after her tweet until she landed is unique to the ‘net social world. As the article is basically saying, she was judged and jury-ed in record time by the social media.

The could be some good in that. There just might be a whole lotta bad in it too.

It’s like the world is one giant Roman Colosseum and the audience gets to view the victim from all over and render a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on that victim without ever being seen, without a fight. And in hours. Unprecedented.

Next step is for people to start to set enemies/adversaries/competition up, get the new ‘net Colosseum to thumbs-down and the results may never get to be changed even if the person never triggered anything to cause it all. Even if the person has absolutely no idea it is going on.

It just feels weird to me. Others?

Yes, it had a distinctly odd feeling.

If the facts had been different - say if she’d tweeted and then NOT gone on inter-hemisphere flight - one of her friends would likely have tweeted her “WTF, Justine?” and she might have taken it down.

IMO, the tweet itself was grounds for dismissal from a position of such prominence in a big company, ESPECIALLY a position in Corporate Communications! But she would not have been a public spectacle.

31 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:38:55pm

“The Puritans came to America for religious freedom!” #noreallythisisbullshit

32 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:40:08pm

re: #31 Lidane

“The Puritans came to America for religious freedom!” #noreallythisisbullshit

Yeah, and the Crusaders were just in the Holy Land to spread the good word.

33 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:41:57pm
34 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:42:44pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

I don’t care about Justine either. But, there is a decent point to be made with one aspect of that article on her apology. The time she was in the air after her tweet until she landed is unique to the ‘net social world. As the article is basically saying, she was judged and jury-ed in record time by the social media.

The could be some good in that. There just might be a whole lotta bad in it too.

It’s like the world is one giant Roman Colosseum and the audience gets to view the victim from all over and render a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on that victim without ever being seen, without a fight. And in hours. Unprecedented.

Next step is for people to start to set enemies/adversaries/competition up, get the new ‘net Colosseum to thumbs-down and the results may never get to be changed even if the person never triggered anything to cause it all. Even if the person has absolutely no idea it is going on.

It just feels weird to me. Others?

I’m not comfortable with it either. There’s a lot of room for reasonable debate but this stuff usually ends up getting split down partisan lines and the quality of debate declines rapidly. For better or worse this flash mob/viral social media tactic works because companies are risk adverse. If it hurts sales then the problem needs to go away. I guess my main concern is I’m not comfortable with PR agencies, car maunfacturers and mattress companies deciding what their employees can say when off work or which radio shows can be heard on the radio. I don’t like them having that power.

35 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:46:07pm

re: #21 makeitstop

I was away from my computer for most of the time when it was all transpiring. I had to Google her name to find out what the hell was up.

My first thought was ‘Jesus, what an idiot.’ My second thought is that people have to learn how to self-censor before they tweet anything.

She seemed very sincere in her apology. But you have to wonder - had she just taken a few seconds to actually read that tweet and considered what she was saying, would she have actually let it fly?

Social media allows for a small mis-step to go a very long way very quickly. And with it comes taking responsibility for what you say. Don’t want your opinions possibly publicized and generating effects? Don’t tweet them!

Per the effect on her employment that’s also part of the risk. You, as an employee or member of some group or organization are a de facto representative of that group. What you do or say reflects upon them, and thus they are often quite defensive about getting their reputation or business damaged by an unapproved comment or communication. It’s a part of employment or membership that a lot of people seem to not understand or take into account.

36 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:46:26pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

Also I looked around a bit for thoughtful commentary on this story and found almost nothing. I even read a Mark Steyn article for the first time in years, hoping to find some common ground for moderation. No such luck.

37 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:46:41pm
38 Uncle Obdicut  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:47:05pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

If it hurts sales then the problem needs to go away. I guess my main concern is I’m not comfortable with PR agencies, car maunfacturers and mattress companies deciding what their employees can say when off work or which radio shows can be heard on the radio. I don’t like them having that power.

Good news: They can’t. They can decide whether or not to continue to employ the person who said the thing.

This is really obvious if you think about it for five seconds.

I am interested that you don’t think that companies should be able to terminate employees for that reason, though. Given that you’re a self-declared ‘classical liberal’, this pro-workers’ rights stance is at odds with that libertarian philosophy in general. I’m personally against companies being able to fire employees ‘at-will’, instead preferring they have to show some form of cause. In this case, the ‘cause’ would be “This woman is no longer credible as a communications director”, which would strike me as eminently reasonable.

You have some sort of constant, bizarre problem in your head with not being able to distinguish between R. Murph Gimrack, Jr, the lathe operator saying dumb shit about black people, and the head of communications saying something this dumb, or Rush Limbaugh saying stuff. Basically, you continually confuse spokespeople with grunts in the trenches. It’s one of those odd little quirks that makes your performance art so nicely predictable.

39 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:47:44pm


Seriously. If more people knew what slaughterhouses really looked like and the real living conditions of chickens and pigs they’d be outraged.

40 A Mom Anon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:48:56pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Dude they already have that power. With their advertising dollars. Why the hell do I see Boeing and Lockheed commercials on TV news? Am I going to be buying anything from them, like, ever? No one is, except airline companies and the Pentagon. But what they can do is tell those news channels that if they run any story detrimental to their bottom line or exposing corruption, then poof! go the ad dollars.

As for that partisan line BS, is it REALLY partisan to be anti fucking racist? Well, never mind, in this day and age one party seems to embrace it WAY too often for it to be a coincidence. Ahem.

41 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:51:52pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Not everything has a neat middle ground that you can wallow in.

42 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:53:29pm

bbl

43 sagehen  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:56:07pm

re: #14 Lidane

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If it quacks like a duck…

44 A Mom Anon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:56:26pm

The Husband is taking us out for dinner, bbl.

45 sagehen  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:57:35pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

It’s like the world is one giant Roman Colosseum and the audience gets to view the victim from all over and render a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on that victim without ever being seen, without a fight. And in hours. Unprecedented.

Next step is for people to start to set enemies/adversaries/competition up, get the new ‘net Colosseum to thumbs-down and the results may never get to be changed even if the person never triggered anything to cause it all. Even if the person has absolutely no idea it is going on.

It just feels weird to me. Others?

Her job is to generate favorable publicity for her employer, to manage social media wisely. I think she’s not very good at it.

46 ObserverArt  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:58:24pm

Just saw the page on Mike Huckabee and added this image there and here for some fun…A little bumper sticker idea for Mike…click on it for a bit larger view…it has some subtleties.

47 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 12:59:12pm

re: #38 Uncle Obdicut

Good news: They can’t. They can decide whether or not to continue to employ the person who said the thing.

This is really obvious if you think about it for five seconds.

I am interested that you don’t think that companies should be able to terminate employees for that reason, though. Given that you’re a self-declared ‘classical liberal’, this pro-workers’ rights stance is at odds with that libertarian philosophy in general. I’m personally against companies being able to fire employees ‘at-will’, instead preferring they have to show some form of cause. In this case, the ‘cause’ would be “This woman is no longer credible as a communications director”, which would strike me as eminently reasonable.

You have some sort of constant, bizarre problem in your head with not being able to distinguish between R. Murph Gimrack, Jr, the lathe operator saying dumb shit about black people, and the head of communications saying something this dumb, or Rush Limbaugh saying stuff. Basically, you continually confuse spokespeople with grunts in the trenches. It’s one of those odd little quirks that makes your performance art so nicely predictable.

This.

She was, quite literally, the face and voice of the company, the person reporters and such were to contact first to get information about the company.

We’re not talking about Joe Schmo on the production line spending his weekends anonymously protesting in favor of something the company doesn’t support - though if Joe Schmo is wearing his company logo T-shirt while protesting, and gets his picture in the paper with their logo prominently displayed, it also reflects on the company.

48 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:00:21pm

re: #45 sagehen

Her job is to generate favorable publicity for her employer, to manage social media wisely. I think she’s not very good at it.

And, the thing is, it wasn’t just that one tweet that showed that Sacco is a moronic twit, it just brought everyone’s attention on her.

Some of her other tweets were just as bad; given what her job description was, I have no shits to give for Justine Sacco.

49 jhrhv  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:02:55pm

15 or so years ago I was lucky enough to get on a tour to the top of Mauna Kea. Watched the sun set from the top then back down to 7,500 feet where the tour operator setup a telescope for night sky observing.

One of the most interesting nights of my life. It’s open to anyone who can get on it assuming it still is a running tour.

If you’re ever on the Big Island I highly recommend it. Worth ever penny.

50 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:05:07pm

Wingnuts are still tweeting this debunked fake shit

51 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:10:59pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s so very VERY sorry…

Exec apologizes for AIDS tweet after social media storm

Freedom of speech! Everyone knows you have the right to be an ass in public and humiliate your boss in front of the whole world!
Oh.
She’s not a godly southern Christian woman? Well, in that case to hell with her.

52 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:12:10pm

re: #41 Lidane

Not everything has a neat middle ground that you can wallow in.

That doesn’t change that neither side appeals to me on issues like this. I don’t live in a binary world, forced to choose between 1’s or 0’s. It’s easy enough to choose my own path at times like this.

53 Ming  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:13:44pm

re: #35 Feline Fearless Leader

Social media allows for a small mis-step to go a very long way very quickly. And with it comes taking responsibility for what you say. Don’t want your opinions possibly publicized and generating effects? Don’t tweet them!

I have mixed feelings about this. It bothers me that someone can do something stupid on social media, and the consequences can be so devastating. But then again, that’s how life is. Someone can do something stupid while driving a car, and the consequences can be devastating. Etc. etc.

Maybe the way to look at it is that without social media, way too many racist / sexist / homophobic jerks would never be “outed”. I take that viewpoint now, but I admit to some mixed feelings.

54 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:15:17pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Neither side appeals to you unless there’s pepper spray involved.

55 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:17:16pm

Watching 50 50 (flick)

Great soundtrack:

imdb.com

56 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:17:43pm

crap. Guess husband won’t be back home for a while…

Storms leave almost 300,000 customers without power in Michigan

57 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:19:34pm

re: #53 Ming

I have mixed feelings about this. It bothers me that someone can do something stupid on social media, and the consequences can be so devastating. But then again, that’s how life is. Someone can do something stupid while driving a car, and the consequences can be devastating. Etc. etc.

Sometimes the something stupid they do while driving a car is being on social media.
//

Maybe the way to look at it is that without social media, way too many racist / sexist / homophobic jerks would never be “outed”. I take that viewpoint now, but I admit to some mixed feelings.

OTOH, I think it’s safe to say that a lot of people who held racist / sexist / homophobic views probably kept them more to themselves before it was so easy to find like minds.

58 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:19:42pm

“Glenn Greenwald is a competent journalist” - #noreallythisisbullshit

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:20:51pm

Don Quixote in his study…

60 jaunte  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:21:33pm

re: #53 Ming

Luckily her father is a billionaire, so some temporary embarrassment is all she has to worry about.

61 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:24:57pm

62 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:25:56pm

63 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:28:28pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

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What a charming fellow…

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64 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:32:26pm

Cracker Barrel reverses course on Duck Dynasty merch

“When we made the decision to remove and evaluate certain Duck Dynasty items, we offended many of our loyal customers. Our intent was to avoid offending, but that’s just what we’ve done. You told us we made a mistake. And, you weren’t shy about it. You wrote, you called and you took to social media to express your thoughts and feelings. You flat out told us we were wrong. We listened. Today, we are putting all our Duck Dynasty products back in our stores. And, we apologize for offending you. We respect all individuals’ right to express their beliefs. We certainly did not mean to have anyone think different. We sincerely hope you will continue to be part of our Cracker Barrel family.”

65 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:32:38pm

re: #50 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are still tweeting this debunked fake shit

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Some new Tea Party Slogans

The Tea Party Movement, unencumbered by the thought process.

The Tea Party — Standing up for our version of truth

The Tea Party — We even say we know some Gay African Americans.

The Tea Party — Because thinking for yourself is hard work

The Tea Party — We know our place, so we CAN’T be racist.


RBS

66 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:33:10pm

My final take on the Cracker Barrel walkback on pulling the Phil DD merchandise; as the Nashville area is CB’s home base, I looked at the Tennessean for their take:

Cracker Barrel to put ‘Duck Dynasty’ items back on shelves

Unsurprisingly, the commenters were fully in support of CB’s change-of-heart, so this is what I had to say:

As a Nashvillian who has frequented CB a lot over the years, this walkback on DD is disappointing, but not unexpected given CB’s core constituency and anyone aware of the company’s history towards gay and black employees and customers ( en.wikipedia.org ); it seems that old habits die hard, even for corporations. This episode just shows that all of the talk from CB about “diversity” (that they were dragged into kicking and screaming after all of the lawsuits and governmental actions that they were a party to) was nothing more than a front, lip service when the rubber met the road.

Cracker Barrel, you had a chance to stand up for all of your customers and employees when you decided to pull the Phil merchandise in response to the bigoted, ignorant things that he’s said, even those made outside of the GQ interview, but in your walkback and subsequent pledge of fealty to your core constituency, you failed and decided to cast your lot with those who are as bigoted and ignorant as he is.

Good luck with that…

67 ObserverArt  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:33:43pm

Just want to clarify for discussion sake. In my #17 I was not meaning to excuse or justify anything that happened to Justine. I wanted to discuss the phenomena of the mechanics and that It all went down so fast, digitally on the ‘net. Can this now be manipulated and become a new tactic to destroy someone?

The fact this blew up so fast due to all the linking that must be wide spread enough to take a message and get it around fast and more thorough than ever. Tweets have powers that other digital outlets haven’t had. It’s almost as if the entire ‘net gets the tweet in very little time due to everyone sharing and linking and following. I don’t use the medium, but by its nature I saw it posted here a bunch of times on Friday

Talk about viral. Damn outbreak and it can’t be quarantined in time before you’re dead and news around the world. How many millions now knowing about Justine and her mistake?

All I can do is shake my head when thinking how all this could be used and all the ramifications.

68 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:36:46pm

Inhofe treated with compassion, says, ‘WTFITS?’


(Actually, he said, ‘I probably shouldn’t say this, but I seem to have gotten more, at least as many, maybe more, of communications from some of my Democrat friends…’)

69 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:40:22pm

…..Just to be sure, let me repeat that for you: you’re an ignorant, hateful, hate-filled, ill-informed, bigoted, racist, heterophobic bully.

Just like the executives at A&E. Just like Bull Connor. Just like Al Sharpton. Just like Barack Hussein Obama. Just like Adolph Hitler.

Read more: businessinsider.com

These people are WHACK.

70 AlexRogan  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:41:10pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

Inhofe treated with compassion, says, ‘WTFITS?’

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(Actually, he said, ‘I probably shouldn’t say this, but I seem to have gotten more, at least as many, maybe more, of communications from some of my Democrat friends…’)

While some of his GOP compatriots were busy trying to create another Obama conspiracy with it, IIRC.

71 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:42:33pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

I don’t care about Justine either. But, there is a decent point to be made with one aspect of that article on her apology. The time she was in the air after her tweet until she landed is unique to the ‘net social world. As the article is basically saying, she was judged and jury-ed in record time by the social media.

The could be some good in that. There just might be a whole lotta bad in it too.

It’s like the world is one giant Roman Colosseum and the audience gets to view the victim from all over and render a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on that victim without ever being seen, without a fight. And in hours. Unprecedented.

Next step is for people to start to set enemies/adversaries/competition up, get the new ‘net Colosseum to thumbs-down and the results may never get to be changed even if the person never triggered anything to cause it all. Even if the person has absolutely no idea it is going on.

It just feels weird to me. Others?

I hear you but I’d make two points:

1. Given her other Tweets, it was pretty clear she thought posting what she posted wasn’t a big deal. For a PR director, that level of cluelessness isn’t really tolerable.

2. If you hold a public-facing position within a company and then say or do something that offends the public, you can expect to lose your job. It wouldn’t be about fairness, it would be about your having ceased to be an asset to the company and instead having become a liability. If that happens, the company is going to protect their bottom line and get rid of you unless your likely future contribution to said bottom line is going to be great enough for them to endure the losses caused by your PR dustup.

72 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:43:28pm

73 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:45:56pm

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:47:41pm
75 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:48:04pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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“Hate is a crutch”

76 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:48:09pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Also I looked around a bit for thoughtful commentary on this story and found almost nothing. I even read a Mark Steyn article for the first time in years, hoping to find some common ground for moderation. No such luck.

Looking to Mark Steyn for “moderation”? Yer doin it rong.

77 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:48:24pm

Winter over yet?

78 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:49:04pm

re: #77 Amory Blaine

Winter over yet?

One day of it. It’s a start.

79 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:50:40pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

crap. Guess husband won’t be back home for a while…

Storms leave almost 300,000 customers without power in Michigan

The outages are concentrated in northern Oakland County, Lapeer County and Livingston County.

That’s out towards Flint. We’re all OK in Detroit.

The son in Toronto says they also got hit with the ice storm.

80 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:51:59pm

81 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:52:53pm

82 jaunte  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:53:31pm

That Tree of Liberty looks like a snocone.

83 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:53:48pm

84 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:54:52pm

Needed to read this. YES.

85 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:55:24pm

My son’s street in Toronto covered in ice:
Notice DANGEROUS downed power line.

86 Belafon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:56:09pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

I think I saw that story in the Hobbit last night. I just hope neither the dwarf nor the elf die in the third movie.

87 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:59:51pm

re: #79 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s out towards Flint. We’re all OK in Detroit.

The son in Toronto says they also got hit with the ice storm.

yep. Hubs was in Flint for the big storm earlier this year.
Right now, he’s headed to Lansing, but that could change when he gets there.

88 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:00:41pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Also I looked around a bit for thoughtful commentary on this story and found almost nothing. I even read a Mark Steyn article for the first time in years, hoping to find some common ground for moderation. No such luck.

Killgore, let me just save you some time. This song by the Rolling Stones sums up all recent Mark Steyn articles, excepting only the ritual blaming of Obama:

Youtube Video

89 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:01:52pm

Looks like the Sphinx

90 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:02:13pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

I don’t care about Justine either. But, there is a decent point to be made with one aspect of that article on her apology. The time she was in the air after her tweet until she landed is unique to the ‘net social world. As the article is basically saying, she was judged and jury-ed in record time by the social media.

The could be some good in that. There just might be a whole lotta bad in it too.

It’s like the world is one giant Roman Colosseum and the audience gets to view the victim from all over and render a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on that victim without ever being seen, without a fight. And in hours. Unprecedented.

Next step is for people to start to set enemies/adversaries/competition up, get the new ‘net Colosseum to thumbs-down and the results may never get to be changed even if the person never triggered anything to cause it all. Even if the person has absolutely no idea it is going on.

It just feels weird to me. Others?

I’m rather glad that there are media for the privileged, the racist, the misogynistic, the homophobic, for any type of bigotry, to be immediately exposed when those people are just too fucking stupid to realize that they are a public media, after all. and you can’t take it back.

This is much better than when people could actually lie to your face and be secretive and dishonest about those attitudes, hiding them, holding them close and never be called on it.

No apology will ever be enough for either Robertson or Sacco—what they said goes to their core beliefs and it was no accident in either case.

Either we fight those attitudes, or it’s “business as usual”. Social media: think about what that means.

No, no one is perfect, but if we’re not here to learn from one another, if we’re here to simply spout off in what we think is just an echo chamber, what is the point in being here at all?

91 EmmaAnne  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:02:47pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

I don’t care about Justine either. But, there is a decent point to be made with one aspect of that article on her apology. The time she was in the air after her tweet until she landed is unique to the ‘net social world. As the article is basically saying, she was judged and jury-ed in record time by the social media.

The could be some good in that. There just might be a whole lotta bad in it too.

It’s like the world is one giant Roman Colosseum and the audience gets to view the victim from all over and render a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on that victim without ever being seen, without a fight. And in hours. Unprecedented.

Next step is for people to start to set enemies/adversaries/competition up, get the new ‘net Colosseum to thumbs-down and the results may never get to be changed even if the person never triggered anything to cause it all. Even if the person has absolutely no idea it is going on.

It just feels weird to me. Others?

There is a legal term: res ipsa loquitur - it means :the thing speaks for itself.” I.e. some things are just so self-evident that there is really no arguing about them. The classic example is finding a surgeon’s tool sewn up in a patient - we all know what happened, and absent a really good explanation, there isn’t any reasonable argument that negligence didn’t occur.

The same is the case here, IMO. The only reasonable explanation for that horribly racist tweet was that her account was hacked. That is why her employer waited until she got off the plane to fire here. There is no reasonable argument that flagrant racism has occurred.

92 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:04:26pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks like the Sphinx

Cthulhu rises!

93 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:09:52pm

Crazy unicyclists. (Acrophobia trigger warning at about 9 minutes.)

Vimeo

94 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:10:12pm

Later, lizards.

95 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:11:25pm

re: #92 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Cthulhu rises!

Beat me to it. That was the first thing that went though my mind.

RBS

96 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:13:48pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

With his professorial jacket and bushy hair, the first guy looks to me like he might be a commie false flagger but he is too fat. Verdict: genuine ‘bagger.

*Edited for grammar

97 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:16:08pm

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

With his professorial jacket and bushy hair, I would say the first guy is a commie false flagger but he is too fat. Verdict: genuine ‘bagger.

More of a Bircher, though there’s not too much space between the two.

98 b.d.  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:17:26pm

Spotted today at grocery store:

Duck Dynasty Anti-Freeze, neighbor has a Duck Dynasty Ice Chest with their picture on it.

What a scam.

99 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:17:43pm

FUUUUUUCK!

100 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:21:01pm

re: #98 b.d.

Spotted today at grocery store:

Duck Dynasty Anti-Freeze, neighbor has a Duck Dynasty Ice Chest with their picture on it.

What a scam.

Uncle Si’s Down-Home Pregnancy Kit

101 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:21:42pm

re: #88 Dark_Falcon

Killgore, let me just save you some time. This song by the Rolling Stones sums up all recent Mark Steyn articles, excepting only the ritual blaming of Obama:

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Yeah, I thought I’d give him a try again. Nothing’s changed.

103 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:21:51pm

re: #99 Pie-onist Overlord

FUUUUUUCK!

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Horrible. The article mentions there was an attempted murder-suicide like this in March. The suicider died but the baby survived.

Note to psychos: Off yourselves if you must, but leave the kids out of it.

104 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:22:45pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel

Horrible. The article mentions there was an attempted murder-suicide like this in March. The suicider died but the baby survived.

Note to psychos: Off yourselves if you must, but leave the kids out of it.

I want to scream and throw things when I read shit like this.

105 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:23:21pm

re: #100 Amory Blaine

Uncle Si’s Down-Home Pregnancy Kit

With the high rate of teen pregnancy in “abstinence only” fundy states, that might be a lucrative product line.

106 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:23:48pm

America - where everyone has the right to be a mark.

107 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:26:07pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I thought I’d give him a try again. Nothing’s changed.

If he ever gets up of the doomsayer market I’ll let you know. Till then I’ve decided not to bother with the man.

108 Mattand  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:27:04pm

At the end of the day, many of the people screaming “OMG political correctness” are basically saying “I don’t like the fact that the people I shit on with my bigoted comments are pushing back.”

For Xmas, I really wish Santa would bring these people a fucking calendar that reads 2014, instead of the one from 1958 they keep hiding behind.

109 b.d.  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:27:39pm

re: #100 Amory Blaine

Uncle Si’s Down-Home Pregnancy Kit

If the cammo strip turns blue you are pregnant and your parents have been notified.

110 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:28:54pm

If a pregnancy is detected, Uncle Si’s Down-Home Pregnancy Kit will send a signal to the nearest Fundy church.

111 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:30:59pm

re: #99 Pie-onist Overlord

FUUUUUUCK!

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Oh gawd, that is horrible. Upper West Side apt bldg.

brodskyorg.com

112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:31:40pm
113 b.d.  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:32:15pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good thing they have a competent mayor that is up to the task of leading the city.

114 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:33:54pm

re: #113 b.d.

Good thing they have a competent mayor that is up to the task of leading the city.

115 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:34:01pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What a foul-up. Place must be run by crackheads or something.

116 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:34:06pm

Wisconsin’s Incarceration Problem

Wisconsin is no exception. Wisconsin ranks #1 in the country for our rate of incarcerating African Americans. The state’s incarceration rate is 12.8%, meaning that one in eight black men are currently in state prison. In Milwaukee, the numbers are even more stark. More than half of the black men in Milwaukee have been incarcerated at one point or another, leaving them virtually unemployable as more and more employers run routine background checks. 2/3s of them are in the cities 6 poorest zip codes.

Blogging Blue is a little dudebro-ish but it’s relatively reasoned and one of my go-to Wisconsin blogs.

117 b.d.  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:36:13pm

OBAMA IS GOLFING WHILE TORONTO IS FREEZING IN TEH DARK!!1!!

118 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:39:39pm

re: #117 b.d.

OBAMA IS GOLFING WHILE TORONTO IS FREEZING IN TEH DARK!!1!!

Said by nobody, ever. Luckily for Barack Obama, Toronto is Stephen Harper’s problem.

119 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:41:33pm

re: #92 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Cthulhu rises!

120 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:42:26pm

Meanwhile, the Green Bay Packers just scored a TD to lead the Pittsburgh Steelers 14-7, while a Justin Tuck interception resulting in a New York Giants FG left the Giants leading the Detroit Lions 13-3 at the half. While the Packers have rallied in the last few games, the Lions are suffering a late-season meltdown.

121 Kragar  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:45:40pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Meanwhile, the Green Bay Packers just scored a TD to lead the Pittsburgh Steelers 14-7, while a Justin Tuck interception resulting in a New York Giants FG left the Giants leading the Detroit Lions 13-3 at the half. While the Packers have rallied in the last few games, the Lions are suffering a late-season meltdown.

Football right?

122 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:45:48pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Meanwhile, the Green Bay Packers just scored a TD to lead the Pittsburgh Steelers 14-7, while a Justin Tuck interception resulting in a New York Giants FG left the Giants leading the Detroit Lions 13-3 at the half. While the Packers have rallied in the last few games, the Lions are suffering a late-season meltdown.

GO PACK GO! Heh.

Also, I’m currently watching New England steamroll Baltimore 17-0 with 2:40 in the 2nd. Right now they’re reviewing a potential NE turnover. It looks like the receiver’s elbow was down before the ball came loose, but it’s hard to tell.

123 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:46:43pm

re: #121 Kragar

Football right?

Right. If you’re a Bears fan, these two games are important. The Bears play the Eagles tonight.

124 Kragar  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:47:50pm

Youtube Video

125 Kragar  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:48:52pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

Right. If you’re a Bears fan, these two games are important. The Bears play the Eagles tonight.

I think the eagle would have the defensive edge, being able to fly and all, but the bear’s size and weight advantage would give it the edge in melee.

126 b.d.  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:49:02pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

Said by nobody, ever. Luckily for Barack Obama, Toronto is Stephen Harper’s problem.

Patience dear Dark Falcon, there is lots of time for stupid stuff to be said.

127 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:49:36pm

re: #125 Kragar

I think the eagle would have the defensive edge, being able to fly and all, but the bear’s size and weight advantage would give it the edge in melee.

SMACK!

128 b.d.  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:49:53pm

And the Cowboys put off the inevitable for one more week.

129 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:50:04pm

An amazing triple-backflip of reductionism, pandering, a whole bunch of nothing dressed up pretending to be thinking:

‘Holiday’ trees offend the religious and the secular

Just one piece:

[…]
The religious should be offended because it is an attempt to secularize a Christian symbol of Christmas. For Jews, it would be like calling a menorah a holiday candelabra. It would be misportraying a symbol of the holiday because the menorah represents the Jewish religious holiday of Hanukkah.
[…]

Really? I mean, really?

By Federman’s own writing he admits that Christmas trees didn’t even make it the Vatican Christmas display until 1982.

While using green trees during the winter solstice celebration predates Christianity, by the 16th century and possibly even the 15th century the custom of the Christmas tree developed as “devout Christians (bringing) decorated trees into their homes,” according to History.com. By 1982, Pope John Paul II formally introduced the Christmas tree custom to the Vatican.

Federman seems to ignore that many times in the past Christian leaders and movements have been very much against the pagan symbol of a Christmas tree.

Eliyahu Federman’s wiki article sounds like one of those autobiographical entries that sounds more like a resume.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:54:24pm

re: #128 b.d.

And the Cowboys put off the inevitable for one more week.

The Cowboys may make the playoffs if the Bears can take down the Eagles.

131 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:55:01pm

re: #128 b.d.

And the Cowboys put off the inevitable for one more week.

While the Texans rolled over and died — again. This time they gave Peyton Manning a 5 TD game and paved the way for him to break Brady’s single season TD pass record.

132 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:55:18pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Singing “Fly Eagles Fly …”

133 b.d.  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:55:58pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

The Cowboys may make the playoffs if the Bears can take down the Eagles.

I kind of hope they don’t. If they stumble into the playoffs Jones will declare all is right in the world and no changes will be made, he’s been doing that for many years now.

134 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:57:56pm

re: #132 PhillyPretzel

Singing “Fly Eagles Fly …”

Singing “Bear Down, Chicago Bears” louder than you’re singing…


/football trash talk

135 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:58:15pm

Posturing for 2016?

Elizabeth Warren Comes Down Hard Against Global Warming, Separates Herself From Hillary Clinton On Climate Change

Tarring Hillary Clinton with the Kochs’ tar.

136 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 2:58:36pm

re: #133 b.d.

I kind of hope they don’t. If they stumble into the playoffs Jones will declare all is right in the world and no changes will be made, he’s been doing that for many years now.

Exactly.

Of course, the most ideal change for the Cowboys would be a change of ownership, but that’s not going to happen anytime soon. :p

137 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:03:17pm

OFFS.

David Vitter: Bobby Jindal will run for president

Read more: politico.com

We’re going to run out of popcorn before 2016.

138 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:03:32pm

re: #135 freetoken

Posturing for 2016?

Elizabeth Warren Comes Down Hard Against Global Warming, Separates Herself From Hillary Clinton On Climate Change

Tarring Hillary Clinton with the Kochs’ tar.

The thing is that Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren agree on most issues. That being the case, if she runs look for Warren to sharpen those differences that do exist and try to focus on stylistic differences she thinks will give her an edge.

139 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:06:33pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

Right. If you’re a Bears fan, these two games are important. The Bears play the Eagles tonight.

Said game being relatively meaningless to the Eagles due to the Cowboys win earlier this afternoon. NFC East division title to be decided in Dallas next week.

140 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:06:39pm

re: #135 freetoken

Posturing for 2016?

Elizabeth Warren Comes Down Hard Against Global Warming, Separates Herself From Hillary Clinton On Climate Change

Tarring Hillary Clinton with the Kochs’ tar.

Maybe but I doubt she’s electable. She might run as a 3rd party spoiler or maybe she’s just pushing to have the party go further left in time for the primaries.

141 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:07:03pm

142 Belafon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:07:59pm

re: #135 freetoken

Nope. She might be doing the smart thing, though, and trying to get Senate Democrats to start talking about climate change in earnest.

143 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:10:17pm

Neat story of science helping out the magickal thinkers:

SEARCH FOR THE RELICS OF MARTYR QUEEN KETEVAN

DNA analysis has confirmed that a relic discovered by archaeologists amongst the ruins of St. Augustine’s Church in Goa, southeast India, is likely to be that of 17th century Queen Ketevan from the Kingdom of Kakheti in eastern Georgia.

[…]

Since 1989, various delegations from Georgia have worked together with the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) to locate Ketevan the Martyr’s relics within the Augustinian church which was founded in 1572. […]

In the year 1613, the emperor of Persia, Shah Abbas I led an army to conquer the Georgian kingdom and Queen Ketevan became his prisoner. The queen was held in Shiraz, southern Iran for approximately ten years, but in 1624, the emperor sent soldiers to convert her to the Islamic faith and to force her into his harem. However, she resisted his orders and as a consequence was tortured and strangled to death on 22 September 1624.

In 1623, a year before her death, two Augustinian friars had arrived in Shiraz to start up a mission and succeeded in gaining the queen’s trust, becoming her confessors. At some point after her death these same friars unearthed the remains of Ketevan and hid them. In 1627, some of these remains (the right arm) were taken to Goa and kept in a black box or stone sarcophagus on the second window along the Epistle side of the chapter chapel in the St. Augustine convent.

Over time the convent had been enlarged and rebuilt in places, but in 1835 the church underwent partial demolition, and in 1842 the main vault collapsed. […]

Whilst clearing the rubble the team also found an arm bone. Two other bone relics were recovered from outside the second window area, within intact stone boxes.

While the archaeological and historical data were consistent with the relic being the remains of Queen Ketevan, the archaeologists needed to somehow conclusively prove that the bone belonged to her. […] Based on the sequence variation in the mitochondrial DNA, they assigned a haplogroup U1b to the sample.

After surveying the mitochondrial DNA sequence of 22,000 individuals from the Indian sub-continent, none of them belonged to U1b haplogroup. However, two out of 30 Georgians analysed have the same haplogroup, suggesting that the bone excavated in Goa is likely to be the remnant of Queen Ketevan of Georgia.

One problem I have with this story is this: mtDNA haplogroup U1b is spread throughout eastern Europe and western Eurasia. If the convent was mostly composed if immigrants from Georgia and the surrounding regions then those women too had a decent likelihood of being U1b. Still, discovery of the box remains is a strong bit of evidence.

144 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:10:34pm

Here’s the results from the smoked turkey breast cooking and roasting potatoes with garlic, rosemary, and thyme.

Also now have the bird broken down. Four containers of turkey for sandwiches, adding to soup, or simply reheating. Carcass is in the stock pot and simmering.

145 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:10:55pm

I wasn’t aware Warren was running for POTUS.

146 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:13:05pm

re: #144 Feline Fearless Leader

I am jealous. Jack’s “Pizza” (ugh) and grape kool-aid over here.

147 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:13:29pm

re: #145 Amory Blaine

I wasn’t aware Warren was running for POTUS.

I suspect this is just part of a bigger movement among those who really don’t want Hillary to run in 2016. On that point I guess I agree with them - we need to move on from the whole Clinton scene.

148 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:13:30pm

149 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:13:36pm

re: #145 Amory Blaine

I wasn’t aware Warren was running for POTUS.

There’s been a good amount of chatter about it, but nothing too solid yet.

150 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:14:15pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

Why is Kenya in quotes?

151 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:14:36pm

re: #142 Belafon

Nope. She might be doing the smart thing, though, and trying to get Senate Democrats to start talking about climate change in earnest.

We have been talking about it in earnest. It’s the Republicans who want to “drill, baby, drill”, frack, etc.

This talk about Eliz Warren is wishful thinking on the left and the right; if Hillary Clinton wants the Dem nomination, she has it. Warren is seen as “too leftish” and aside from women’s and children’s issues, Clinton is seen as pretty moderate by most Dems.

152 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:15:15pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

Are these all from the past year?

153 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:15:34pm

re: #150 The Mountain That Blogs

Why is Kenya in quotes?

Teabonics.

154 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:15:49pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

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I don’t get how ‘Kenya’ is different from Kenya.

155 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:16:03pm

re: #152 freetoken

Are these all from the past year?

No, they’re from lots of different rallies. Just kinda going through the collection.

156 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:16:12pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

crap. Guess husband won’t be back home for a while…

Storms leave almost 300,000 customers without power in Michigan

Much of Toronto was without power. Mine just came on a couple of hours ago after twelve hours out.

157 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:16:22pm

re: #147 freetoken

I suspect this is just part of a bigger movement among those who really don’t want Hillary to run in 2016. On that point I guess I agree with them - we need to move on from the whole Clinton scene.

I really don’t blame them. I think Hillary would be a good president but at the same time, I really do feel that ship has sailed.

158 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:16:27pm

re: #152 freetoken

Are these all from the past year?

No, some of these I recognize from 2009.

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:16:34pm

And the feline overlords have been active today as well.

Cat Stack - is the turkey ready yet?

Shipping box inspection -

Wrapping supervisor -

160 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:17:10pm

re: #144 Feline Fearless Leader

Here’s the results from the smoked turkey breast cooking and roasting potatoes with garlic, rosemary, and thyme.

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Also now have the bird broken down. Four containers of turkey for sandwiches, adding to soup, or simply reheating. Carcass is in the stock pot and simmering.

That looks like perfection.

161 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:17:17pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

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Yikes! Burning flesh? Really? These people are desecraters and pathological egotists.
Masses of human beings really have been burned in ovens within living memory.
This is not the same as a magazine capacity restriction or ACA.

162 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:18:01pm

Refutiate!!

163 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:20:39pm

re: #161 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! Burning flesh? Really? These people are desecraters and pathological egotists.
Masses of human beings really have been burned in ovens within living memory.
This is not the same as a magazine capacity restriction or ACA.

They want to be like Holocaust victims so bad.

164 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:21:46pm

Part of the problem with the Obama era in the Democratic Party is that his charisma has made it hard for other Democratic Party persona to stand out. I think that is why there are so many Warren fans - she’s one of the few Democratic politicians who have been able to gain some name-recognition in the era of Obama.

165 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:22:47pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

No, they’re from lots of different rallies. Just kinda going through the collection.

A year-end montage of derp.

166 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:29:08pm

“I’m teabagging for Jesus.”

Image: teabagging-jesus-sm.jpg

167 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:29:19pm

In 2014 let’s hope the Democratic party machinery big wigs find a way to position 3 or 4 personalities into the public spotlight. A few should be seen as being “anointed” by the President as his choices, while there also needs to be a couple of people who pop up as the outsiders, the other ones, who can be seen as challengers to the Democratic Party big shots.

This dynamic is lacking currently. The one advantage the tea partying GOP has is that their constant braying is making some of them household names - Rand Paul for example - who otherwise would not be known outside of their own little region.

For 2016 we can come up with a longish list of names that the GOP will be throwing in hat - Paul, Rubio, Huckabee, Santorum, Ryan, etc. Can’t do that for the Democratic Party. The GOP has benefitted from their public debates of stupidity. They may be displaying their ignorance, but at the same time getting name recognition.

168 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:29:29pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

They want to be like Holocaust victims so bad.

No, they just want to be seen as victims.

169 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:31:07pm

Nevermind…screwed that one up.

170 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:31:50pm

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

No, they just want to be >seen as victims.

Touche.

171 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:32:59pm

re: #167 freetoken

In 2014 let’s hope the Democratic party machinery big wigs find a way to position 3 or 4 personalities into the public spotlight. A few should be seen as being “anointed” by the President as his choices, while there also needs to be a couple of people who pop up as the outsiders, the other ones, who can be seen as challengers to the Democratic Party big shots.

This dynamic is lacking currently. The one advantage the tea partying GOP has is that their constant braying is making some of them household names - Rand Paul for example - who otherwise would not be known outside of their own little region.

For 2016 we can come up with a longish list of names that the GOP will be throwing in hat - Paul, Rubio, Huckabee, Santorum, Ryan, etc. Can’t do that for the Democratic Party. The GOP has benefitted from their public debates of stupidity. They may be displaying their ignorance, but at the same time getting name recognition.

I’d like to see Martin O’Malley get in the spot light. I really like him as a possible candidate. He actually did better in 2010 than 2006 and he wasn’t running against some teabagger fanatic. I know it’s Maryland but still.

172 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:33:20pm

re: #166 Justanotherhuman

“I’m teabagging for Jesus.”

Image: teabagging-jesus-sm.jpg

Ha! Best Teabag sign eer.

173 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:35:39pm

But maybe the Lions aren’t done, as they now lead the Giants 20-13.

174 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:37:43pm

Whoever the Dem nominee in 2016 though will be is going to be accused of being a socialist who hates America and Americans by the right wing noise machine though. I’m sure Jerome Corsi already has written his anti-Hillary book first since she’s an early favorite for the nomination.

175 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:38:36pm

Tell me the RWNJs don’t listen to their de facto Republican Party head.

”Obama’s got a health care logo that’s right out of Adolf Hitler’s playbook … Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate.”
—Rush Limbaugh, Aug. 6, 2009

176 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:40:46pm

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

Tell me the RWNJs don’t listen to their de facto Republican Party head.

“Obama’s got a health care logo that’s right out of Adolf Hitler’s playbook … Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate.”
—Rush Limbaugh, Aug. 6, 2009

They’ve been sucking that tit for a long time. I really think that comment is as pathetic as his attack on Fluke. Anyone who likens health care reform to the worst evils of Hitler and the Third Reich is not only a moron but a terrible person in my book.

177 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:44:39pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

There are hundreds of anti-Hillary books just waiting to be published, I’m sure.

I just think we have to move on from the 1990’s. We need new leadership in this country that is deeply anchored in the 21st century and what the US has become. We need leaders who know how to forge new alliances and know how to work a nation now large enough so even an interest group that only includes a couple of “%” of the population still means millions of people, and thus resources to do publicity.

This size issue I think we need to ponder upon for a while. The US is now so large that even our Representatives have districts of 700 or 800 thousand people - more than they could ever meet or hope to truly represent.

178 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:47:19pm

re: #177 freetoken

There are hundreds of anti-Hillary books just waiting to be published, I’m sure.

I just think we have to move on from the 1990’s. We need new leadership in this country that is deeply anchored in the 21st century and what the US has become. We need leaders who know how to forge new alliances and know how to work a nation now large enough so even an interest group that only includes a couple of “%” of the population still means millions of people, and thus resources to do publicity.

This size issue I think we need to ponder upon for a while. The US is now so large that even our Representatives have districts of 700 or 800 thousand people - more than they could ever meet or hope to truly represent.

I very much agree with you. It’s a new century and while I respect Hillary for the work she did a first lady, then senator, and most recently Secretary of STate, I really do feel that ship has sailed for the reasons you articulate here.

179 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:48:41pm

Flynn just threw an out too slow. Pick 6 by Cortez Allen.

180 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:50:37pm

re: #179 Feline Fearless Leader

Flynn just threw an out too slow. Pick 6 by Cortez Allen.

Oh hell yeah!

181 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:55:21pm

I’m settling in to watch Black Adder’s Christmas Carol

RBS

182 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:58:28pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

“We need new leadership in this country that is deeply anchored in the 21st century and what the US has become.”

______

Well, depends on what you think “what the US has become” means. Even with social issues like SSM won, and ACA being put into effect, there are still going to be fights over immigration reform, minimum wage, the income gap which is contributing to worsening economic conditions for the ordinary person, etc.

To me what the US has become would be at least “more progressive”, but it won’t remain that way if we don’t work to keep it so. It’s going to be a huge election year fight in 2014, and I’m sorry, but I just can’t see allowing anyone the Rs are putting forth to win.

183 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 3:59:28pm

Legislation requiring critical newborn heart test stalls in committees

Two Republican committee chairs are blocking bipartisan legislation that would require all newborn babies in the state to be tested for the number one killer of infants with birth defects, despite a federal recommendation by medical experts two years ago. The quick, non invasive test costs $4 per baby.

Bills in both houses of the Legislature to require the test for critical congenital heart disease in Wisconsin have languished since early 2012. This year, the bills were reintroduced, sponsored by two Republicans and backed by almost one-third of the state’s lawmakers.

And in nine months, neither has received even a public hearing.

From the comments,

Pedro the Good:

Here is an interesting scenario that never could have happened without the help of the current buffoons running the state. A woman goes to a clinic for an abortion. She is forced to get an unnecessary ultrasound and changes her mind. She then goes to a hospital that doesn’t do this simple test, and her baby ends up having the defect and dies after receiving thousands of dollars of care. To top it off, she ends up being from one of the families kicked out of Badger-care, and since she can’t afford insurance, the hospital and the state end up paying the bills. Merry Christmas from the Banana Republic of Wisconsin.

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:02:47pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Singing “Bear Down, Chicago Bears” louder than you’re singing…

/football trash talk

Eagles vs Bears? What I am supposed to root for here? Oh, I know. A tie game after OT would do quite nicely… ;)

185 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:02:50pm

re: #182 Justanotherhuman

“We need new leadership in this country that is deeply anchored in the 21st century and what the US has become.”

______

Well, depends on what you think “what the US has become” means. Even with social issues like SSM won, and ACA being put into effect, there are still going to be fights over immigration reform, minimum wage, the income gap which is contributing to worsening economic conditions for the ordinary person, etc.

To me what the US has become would be at least “more progressive”, but it won’t remain that way if we don’t work to keep it so. It’s going to be a huge election year fight in 2014, and I’m sorry, but I just can’t see allowing anyone the Rs are putting forth to win.

Those are FT’s words not mine. I feel that the Dems can win without nominating Hillary. In 2007, Obama himself looked like a dark horse and here is the first president since Reagan to win two terms with over 50% of the vote in each election.

186 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:03:16pm

Heh.

187 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:04:55pm
In the Senate, Leah Vukmir (R-Wauwatosa) chairs the committee where the screening bill has languished and said she believes decisions about newborn screening should be made by an existing committee of medical professionals, not state lawmakers.

But the expert committee she says she wants to empower already has weighed in on the test. Members “strongly” recommended screening all infants in Wisconsin for critical congenital heart disease — two years ago.

Fucking maddening.

188 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:09:35pm

re: #187 Amory Blaine
In the Senate, Leah Vukmir (R-Wauwatosa) chairs the committee where the screening bill has languished and said she believes decisions about newborn screening should be made by an existing committee of medical professionals, not state lawmakers.
But the expert committee she says she wants to empower already has weighed in on the test. Members “strongly” recommended screening all infants in Wisconsin for critical congenital heart disease — two years ago.

Fucking maddening.

Now if I were a cynic, I would suggest that this would make the Republicans working against this the actual embodyment of the RWNJs favorite bogie man “Death Panels”. Of course when they do it, it’s because of agrle barlge…

RBS

189 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:10:22pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

190 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:10:46pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Those are FT’s words not mine. I feel that the Dems can win without nominating Hillary. In 2007, Obama himself looked like a dark horse and here is the first president since Reagan to win two terms with over 50% of the vote in each election.

Yes, sorry; I didn’t mean to imply you said that.

Pres Obama had thousands upon thousands of volunteers and a hell of an organization on the first run (“community organizing” writ large and nationwide), and plenty of funds for the second run (being an incumbent has pretty much become the advantage these days).

191 Mattand  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:11:46pm

re: #184 William Barnett-Lewis

Eagles vs Bears? What I am supposed to root for here? Oh, I know. A tie game after OT would do quite nicely… ;)

Hint: E-A-G-L-E-S, EAGLES!!!

I’ve got a divided household here, as My Lady, Queen of the Hinterlands* is a Cowboys fan. Next week should be fun.

Fun fact: the Eagles and Cowboys were in this situation about 4 or so years ago. She thought it would be funny to dress the dog in a blue Cowboys-style t-shirt and force him declare allegiance to Dallas.

The Eagles crushed them about 4 hours later. To my credit, I did not gloat.

Much.

*Title may be exaggerated for dramatic effect.

192 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:14:36pm

re: #191 Mattand

Go Bears, Go Bears! :P

193 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:15:14pm

Here is the Rye Bread that I made this afternoon. I made 3 loaves, one has been eated.

194 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:16:29pm

Packers and Steelers now tied 31-31 with 7:14 remaining in the 4th.

195 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:17:50pm

Matt Flynn performed some kind of 360 spin Zoolander throw for the interception.

196 Mattand  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:18:14pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Go Bears, Go Bears! :P

As much as I’d like to see the Eagles win, a loss tonight wouldn’t be the end of the world. Regardless of tonight’s result, they still have to beat Dallas for the division. It’d be a good morale booster, though.

At least the weather will be okay. I met up with family in Center City today (hey, Feline Leader and Philly Pretzel!!!) and was wearing shorts. 68° on December 22nd; insane.

197 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:18:20pm

Meanwhile the Lions-Giants game heads to overtime tied at 20. Come on Eli, win this one and knock the Lions out!

198 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:19:14pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

Packers and Steelers now tied 31-31 with 7:14 remaining in the 4th.

Good, that should force the Steelers to throw, and I need Antonio Brown to score some more points.

199 Mattand  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:20:15pm

So what is the deal with the NFC North? I know Da Bears are in first; do the Lions and the Pack still have a shot?

200 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:20:33pm

re: #198 aagcobb

Good, that should force the Steelers to throw, and I need Antonio Brown to score some more points.

Just what I needed, a long completion to Brown.

201 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:21:10pm

Some idiot is yabbling at me on Teh Twitters over HURR HURR BENGHAZI!!!11!!!
Oh shit, it’s a 9/11 Troofer too. BLOCKED now.

202 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:22:12pm

HURR HURR

203 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:22:59pm

The older boy made caramels, which, despite lightly oiling the wax paper per the directions, cling like grim death to the wax paper.

However, I am unable to detect any hint of paper when eating them. So I suppose I’m getting fiber.

Meanwhile, when we were clearing the space for the tree, my wife picked up one of the dog beds and moved it out of the way, leaving it folded up, leaning against an ottoman. This did not stop the male from claiming it as his own…

204 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:23:46pm

re: #199 Mattand

So what is the deal with the NFC North? I know Da Bears are in first; do the Lions and the Pack still have a shot?

The Packers do, but the Lions would need to win both games and then have both the Bears and Packers louse up.

205 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:24:46pm

Holy crap. China Mobile has 700M customers.

Apple signs iPhone deal with China Mobile

bbc.co.uk

206 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:25:06pm

re: #182 Justanotherhuman

As the US grows larger the feeling if isolation, ironically, will grow too. Even the Tea Partiers in their ignorance are demonstrating this phenomenon.

The population clock tells us we’re over 317 million and counting:

census.gov

By the time the next President ends a two term career we will be in 2024 and that pop-clock will probably have rolled over 350 million.

How a monolithic central government run by 100 upper legislators and 435 lower ones can respond to the diversity of demands that such a nation-state of 350 million will bring is a conceptual problem that many commentators seem to ignore.

I propose one reason why we have the current “deadlock” in Congress is indeed the result of Congress not being able to respond to the diverging choirs of the masses, who will either self divide or be herded into so many different special interests that we will have difficulty counting them.

207 Kragar  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:26:51pm
208 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:28:16pm

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

The Packers do, but the Lions would need to win both games and then have both the Bears and Packers louse up.

At this point the Bears are the best team in the division and the only one that wouldn’t one and out. OTOH, I’d like to see the Lions get it together. The Packers aren’t going to do much without Rodgers, especially not with the current coaches who only know how to ride an arm.

209 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:29:00pm

re: #193 Pie-onist Overlord

Here is the Rye Bread that I made this afternoon. I made 3 loaves, one has been eated.
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U can email me one?
Kthx.

210 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:29:05pm

re: #193 Pie-onist Overlord

Mmm warm with some butter and a nice bowl of soup.

211 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:30:29pm

re: #210 Amory Blaine

Mmm warm with some butter and a nice bowl of soup.

She will have to make more. Soup won’t be ready until tomorrow.

212 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:32:54pm

re: #208 William Barnett-Lewis

At this point the Bears are the best team in the division and the only one that wouldn’t one and out. OTOH, I’d like to see the Lions get it together. The Packers aren’t going to do much without Rodgers, especially not with the current coaches who only know how to ride an arm.

And if Rodgers is ready to play next week, I’d still fully expect you to be glued to a TV while decked out in Green and Yellow when the Packers play the Bears.

(Not that there’s something wrong with that.)

213 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:33:00pm

re: #210 Amory Blaine

Mmm warm with some butter and a nice bowl of soup.

Hmm, yes, maybe turkey soup?

BTW, VB, why does my rye bread come out darker? How much rye flour do you use in proportion to white? Also, I like caraway seeds, but cannot find them locally (may have to resort to WW—ugh).

214 jhrhv  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:34:22pm

re: #193 Pie-onist Overlord

Can you post the recipe? I loved your challah recipe. So did everyone else that ate them.

I tried making rye bread once. It came out more like a rye biscotti.

215 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:34:22pm

Green Bay just fumbled on their own 15. Less than two minutes left in the game.

216 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:35:30pm

re: #215 Feline Fearless Leader

Green Bay just fumbled on their own 15. Less than two minutes left in the game.

*shakes fist

217 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:35:53pm

re: #215 Feline Fearless Leader

Green Bay just fumbled on their own 15. Less than two minutes left in the game.

Well the Steelers won’t risk a throw then. They’ll run to kill clock then kick a field goal.

218 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:37:23pm

Ugh, Diane Reum retweeted this shit:
Diane Reum is SO BLOCKED NOW.

219 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:37:37pm

re: #217 aagcobb

Well the Steelers won’t risk a throw then. They’ll run to kill clock then kick a field goal.

Green Bay has all their 2nd half time outs. So Pittsburgh won’t get that much time off the clock if they just run three times and attempt the field goal.

220 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:40:00pm

On FB, my family were discussing the Methodist pastor who was just defrocked for officiating at his son’s SSM, and refusing to recant his heresy say he was sorry.

To a person, they sided with the pastor. I told them that they are the people I’m talking about when I say you don’t have to be atheist to believe in justice.

221 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:40:05pm

re: #215 Feline Fearless Leader

Green Bay just fumbled on their own 15. Less than two minutes left in the game.

222 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:41:47pm

re: #186 Lidane

Heh.

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That looks like British food.

223 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:42:31pm

re: #222 prairiefire

That looks like British food.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Looks like a breakfast fry-up.

224 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:42:37pm

re: #221 Lidane

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Green Bay just jumped offsides on 4th and 3 to give Pittsburgh a 1st down.

225 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:43:13pm

re: #223 Lidane

Yeah, I noticed that too. Looks like a breakfast fry-up.

Fried Eggs and baked beans the give-away combo.

226 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:43:16pm

And the Lions do in fact fall to the Giants in overtime, 23-20. By my understanding, this loss knocks Detroit out of playoff contention.

227 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:43:19pm

re: #224 Feline Fearless Leader

Green Bay just jumped offsides on 4th and 3 to give Pittsburgh a 1st down.

Lol.

228 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:43:51pm

TD, Steelers!

229 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:44:46pm

re: #223 Lidane

Yeah, I noticed that too. Looks like a breakfast fry-up.

You’re right. Who else would eat beans for breakfast? And what the everloving fuck is that round black thing at 2:00 on the plate? Hockey puck?

230 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:44:51pm

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

Fried Eggs and baked beans the give-away combo.

So is the blood pudding…

231 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:45:21pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

So is the blood pudding…

And we have an answer.

232 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:45:26pm

Green Bay will need a touchdown with 1:25 left to play and no timeouts.

233 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:45:30pm

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

*sigh*

234 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:45:50pm

re: #229 GeneJockey

You’re right. Who else would eat beans for breakfast? And what the everloving fuck is that round black thing at 2:00 on the plate? Hockey puck?

Black pudding?

235 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:46:03pm

re: #229 GeneJockey

You’re right. Who else would eat beans for breakfast?

Go to a Mexican restaurant for breakfast one day.

236 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:46:04pm

Nice game.

237 prairiefire  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:46:07pm

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

Fried Eggs and baked beans the give-away combo.

And that funky bacon.

238 Kragar  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:46:10pm
239 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:46:15pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

Green Bay will need a touchdown with 1:25 left to play and no timeouts.

And they ran the kick-off back 70 yards…

240 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:47:22pm

re: #239 Feline Fearless Leader

And they ran the kick-off back 70 yards…

Gonna be an exciting finish.

241 Belafon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:47:34pm

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

Not only are there more conspiracies, there are more conspiracies than you can possibly imagine (you know, it’s hard to fit sarcasm in 140 characters:

242 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:48:31pm

re: #235 Lidane

Go to a Mexican restaurant for breakfast one day.

Hey now, refried beans are a gift from on high. : )

243 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:48:39pm

Aaand done. Caught up with Doctor Who up to the most recent special. And still over two days to wait…crap.

244 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:48:44pm

Green Bay 2nd and goal on the 1.

245 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:49:02pm

Outdated.

246 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:49:17pm

re: #242 Justanotherhuman

Hey now, refried beans are a gift from on high. : )

Oops.

Meant to respond to the previous message in the string, that Mexicans wouldn’t eat beans in ‘Tomahto Sauce’ for brekkers.

247 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:49:25pm

re: #240 aagcobb

Gonna be an exciting finish.

And CBS finally gives up showing the farce of the New England game to show the end of the Packers game. BRB.

248 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:49:42pm

re: #237 prairiefire

And that funky bacon.

Triangle shaped things look like Scottish oatcakes.

249 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:50:22pm

British bacon (rashers) and bangers and mash, too.

britishbacon.com

250 jhrhv  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:50:23pm

re: #241 Belafon

Before the internet these are the people that walked the streets with signs saying The End is Nigh. They were crazy then and they still are.

On the internet they found each other creating the great moronic convergence.

251 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:50:28pm
252 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:50:47pm

Pittsburgh wins!

Playoff path favors Bears now. And Steelers playoff hopes still alive as well.

253 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:50:54pm

Outdated, again. Sorry, I’m viewing the updates on the net, not watching on TV.

But the Bears can now clinch the NFC North championship with a win over the Eagles.

254 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:52:04pm

ARGH. Damn it. Packers lost.

*sigh*

255 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:53:04pm

BBL

256 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:53:20pm

re: #241 Belafon

::: crossing eyes ::: I was always taught that 1776 added up to 21 hence the 21 gun salute.

257 aagcobb  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:53:45pm

OK, that leaves me with a 43 point lead. My opponent still has Foles and McCoy tonight and the SF D Monday. Go Bears!

258 William of Orange  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:55:26pm

A brief lesson in history. A shout out to Creationists.

Youtube Video

Learn bastards!

259 Kragar  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:55:58pm
260 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:56:15pm

re: #259 Kragar

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Classic.

261 GeneJockey  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:57:15pm

re: #259 Kragar

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It was all down hill from there for Pia Zadora.

262 William of Orange  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:00:29pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Is that an atom bomb?

263 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:00:48pm

re: #242 Justanotherhuman

Hey now, refried beans are a gift from on high. : )

Oh sure. Especially the ones that have chipotle added. Those are awesome.

264 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:01:32pm

re: #229 GeneJockey

You’re right. Who else would eat beans for breakfast? And what the everloving fuck is that round black thing at 2:00 on the plate? Hockey puck?

It could be an Oreo.

265 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:02:12pm

Sllim chance of Steelers making the playoffs but still a chance. So uh yay.

266 Varek Raith  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:04:01pm

re: #262 William of Orange

Is that an atom bomb?

Tree of Liberty!11!ty

267 Kragar  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:04:37pm
268 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:04:56pm

I blocked @DivaTomboy but I can’t stop looking at its Twitter feed, it’s so full of TEH FUCKING CRAZY.

I haven’t seen a retweet of Lisa Phillips Holocaust Denial. Yet.

269 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:05:39pm

re: #267 Kragar

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Obviously the President is responsible for not getting The Doctor to save them.

270 kirkspencer  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:07:00pm

So I made toffee tonight.

On the one hand, it was good. On the other, it could have been better. I had too much chocolate coating. It was thicker than the toffee. My fault, should have doubled the toffee recipe. Guess I’ll have to do it again (grin).

The thing is, it was the first time toffee came out /right/ with minimum problem and I’d like to share the reason why. I ran across this suggestion of using almonds. The toffee is done when it’s the color of the almonds. (Not blanched, not husked, just shelled.)

Which in turn makes toffee my new first choice for easy candy. With the corrections:
Line a 9x13 cookie sheet or cake pan with aluminum foil. Don’t bother to oil or prep it - trust me on this.

2 cups butter
2 cups white sugar
1 teaspoon salt.
1 teaspoon vanilla extract.

Optional coating: 12 ounce bag chocolate chips. 8 ounces chopped nuts of preference.
Optional extra: 8 ounces shelled almonds. If you’re using this option spread them evenly across the tinfoil before you start the toffee.
Combine in a heavy saucepan and start over medium low heat. Stir occasionally until the butter is melted and the sugar somewhat combined. Raise heat to medium and stir constantly till the color is the same as a shelled almond.
Remove from heat and immediately pour into the foil lined pan - quickly spread if necessary. (you’ve got a few seconds while it’s still not quite set.)

IF adding the chocolate and nuts: Sprinkle the chocolate chips evenly across the toffee. Wait two minutes. Spread the now-softened chocolate to cover evenly. Sprinkle the nuts evenly across the top and press down lightly.

Let cool on the countertop. If in a hurry use a refrigerator or freezer to hasten the set, but wait 15 minutes before you start so you don’t melt everything else.

The foil will peel off this butter confection with no difficulty. Break up, put what’s left from testing (if any) on a serving dish.

271 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:07:05pm

My G-D teaches not to be an asshole to people. If your god requires being an asshole to other people, that’s not the same G-D that I worship.

272 Kragar  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:09:22pm
273 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:12:00pm

274 A Mom Anon  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:12:19pm

re: #99 Pie-onist Overlord

We just had a case here in Atlanta where a neighbor found a woman beaten nearly to death, and her little son and husband were missing. They found the toddler with his father both dead in the woods, he had killed the baby and then himself. I do understand being despondent enough to commit suicide, but I have never understood killing a child in addition to yourself. This kind of shit makes me want to throw furniture.

275 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:12:35pm

re: #241 Belafon

I suppose you want me to believe it is merely coincidental that “Ha, Satan A Milkier Ebony ” is an anagram for “Obama is a Kenyan Hitler”



ummmmmmmmmm

276 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:12:48pm

re: #273 Charles Johnson

see!!

277 jhrhv  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:14:28pm

Have a friend who has an FB friend who would bomb her posts at times with all kinds of conspiracy theory whack-a-mole. I asked him why he thought he knew things none of the rest did. He replied it’s all hidden from the public. I said it’s all hidden in the many links you often post to super secret web sites like facebook, twitter and found on the almost unheard of site named google.

I was told I’m sheeple and he stopped bombing her time line.

278 jhrhv  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:17:28pm

Oh well guess I’d better stop making excuses and go do some indoor bike riding. Have a great night all.

babushka if you’re reading this and can post that rye bread recipe I’d really like to give it a try. I’ll check back in a few hours.

279 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:18:10pm

re: #272 Kragar

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No, we have a problem with someone writing that claiming to represent our creator but thanks for playing Matt.

280 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:18:18pm

re: #213 Justanotherhuman

Hmm, yes, maybe turkey soup?

BTW, VB, why does my rye bread come out darker? How much rye flour do you use in proportion to white? Also, I like caraway seeds, but cannot find them locally (may have to resort to WW—ugh).

re: #214 jhrhv

Can you post the recipe? I loved your challah recipe. So did everyone else that ate them.

I tried making rye bread once. It came out more like a rye biscotti.

This is the fourth time I have made rye bread and the first time that I got it right. The other times I overproofed the dough and it fell.

I use a combination of whole rye flour and white bread flour, 40% rye to 60% white.

I used the recipe from Hamelman’s Bread, here are step by step photos of the process.

281 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:18:25pm

re: #277 jhrhv

Have a friend who has an FB friend who would bomb her posts at times with all kinds of conspiracy theory whack-a-mole. I asked him why he thought he knew things none of the rest did. He replied it’s all hidden from the public. I said it’s all hidden in the many links you often post to super secret web sites like facebook, twitter and found on the almost unheard of site named google.

I was told I’m sheeple and he stopped bombing her time line.

Those “FB friends” are mentally ill, no doubt. That sounds so much like pure paranoia.

282 jhrhv  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:20:44pm

re: #280 Pie-onist Overlord

Thanks so much.

283 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:20:52pm

re: #278 jhrhv

Oh well guess I’d better stop making excuses and go do some indoor bike riding. Have a great night all.

babushka if you’re reading this and can post that rye bread recipe I’d really like to give it a try. I’ll check back in a few hours.

You need to start a sourdough.

284 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:21:57pm

Why is the LGF affiliate ID not embedded in the Amazon links any more?

285 jhrhv  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:23:27pm

re: #283 Pie-onist Overlord

Mrs jhrhv is very happy. Just put a big smile on her face. Her words “What a fabulous lady”.

286 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:23:36pm

re: #277 jhrhv

I have a few friends that do the whole woo woo conspiracy thing. Most of them are wingnuts or “constitutional conservatives” who post whatever the latest RWNJ derp is and parrot it perfectly. Another is a very sweet girl who is otherwise cool, but she’s convinced that chemtrails are a real thing.

287 freetoken  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:24:06pm

As noted in the wee hours of the morn, I have a program that is doing a mass search of the LDS site Familysearch.org for tree links and data. It’s kind of neat, and there are a variety of products for different platforms that can do such automation:
familysearch.org

If you’re wanting to do genealogy and want to avoid the $160/yr subscription to ancestry.com you can still get quite a bit of information on the net. However, be forewarned that the genealogy business has a very long history of scams and probably almost all genealogies that try to connect to the famous people of the past are just erroneous.

288 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:24:58pm

I didn’t expect being stuck in an ice storm during the move..
My time on the net is short while I await a break in the weather..There is a good chance I get stuck in the North Woods waiting for Route D to become passable to my house. Isn’t that cool? Go big or go home..Or die trying.
So I get my prize from Cracker Jacks and it’s a pull tab telling me to visit Crackjacks.com. You know..I want my f*cking toy.. Cracker Jacks!
This is the mood I’m in..:) If I don’t get the chance lizards.. Merry Christmas

289 jhrhv  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:25:33pm

re: #286 Lidane

hahaha there are so many of them. The best part to me is how they all start running each other over. You can’t keep track of them all when everything is a lie.

Simple truth is I think to complicated for these people.

290 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:26:46pm

re: #288 HoosierHoops

Merry Christmas Hoop’s,

May 2014 bring you love, joy and happiness.

291 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:27:07pm

In my observations of CTers, the most rational explanation to something is “proof” of the conspiracy. This one guy, work friend of a friend who I met one time and seemed like a nice enough guy just got super obnoxious with CT stuff that you could refute easily.

292 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:32:53pm

re: #284 Pie-onist Overlord

Why is the LGF affiliate ID not embedded in the Amazon links any more?

That link had an unusual format, but I just put together a regular expression to handle it. If you reload, the associate link is now inserted.

293 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:34:49pm

re: #288 HoosierHoops

I didn’t expect being stuck in an ice storm during the move..
My time on the net is short while I await a break in the weather..There is a good chance I get stuck in the North Woods waiting for Route D to become passable to my house. Isn’t that cool? Go big or go home..Or die trying.
So I get my prize from Cracker Jacks and it’s a pull tab telling me to visit Crackjacks.com. You know..I want my f*cking toy.. Cracker Jacks!
This is the mood I’m in..:) If I don’t get the chance lizards.. Merry Christmas

Wishing you a safe trip Hoops. Keep us posted whenever you can get wifi on the route. Oh, and photos would be nice. :-)

294 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:36:15pm

re: #290 Usually refered to as anyways

Merry Christmas Hoop’s,

May 2014 bring you love, joy and happiness.

Merry Christmas Oz! I’ve only got 1300 miles to go until Paradise..
Gosh..We have been here for years chatting. I wish you the very best for 2014.

295 jaunte  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:37:33pm

re: #288 HoosierHoops

Merry Christmas, Hoops, and have safe trip!

296 Lidane  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:38:33pm

re: #289 jhrhv

hahaha there are so many of them. The best part to me is how they all start running each other over. You can’t keep track of them all when everything is a lie.

There was a photo that Charles posted last night from the teabaggers where it had swastikas all over it and literally every RWNJ conspiracy and/or buzzword all over the place. There wasn’t anything remotely resembling a coherent idea on there. It was all ZOMG ELEVENTY DERP all the time.

Simple truth is I think to complicated for these people.

It’s easy to distract people if you blame their problems on some nameless “other” or if you convince them that everyone else is out to get them.

297 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:40:42pm

re: #280 Pie-onist Overlord

This is the fourth time I have made rye bread and the first time that I got it right. The other times I overproofed the dough and it fell.

I use a combination of whole rye flour and white bread flour, 40% rye to 60% white.

I used the recipe from Hamelman’s Bread, here are step by step photos of the process.

Those look good, but yours look better. : ) Didn’t realize it was a sour dough recipe, though. Guess I’ll have to make a starter…

298 Petero1818  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:44:17pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dark and cold. We lost power last night and am spending tonight in a hotel with wife and 3 kids. We are fortunate to be able to do it. Most can’t. Here’s hoping Hydro crews can cover a lot of ground. Lots of trees down around my house.

299 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:48:11pm

re: #293 Stanley Sea

Wishing you a safe trip Hoops. Keep us posted whenever you can get wifi on the route. Oh, and photos would be nice. :-)

Merry Christmas! I’ll send you pics when I arrive. I really like the place and have spent a year getting it set up. Paulie and I were up there about 6 weeks ago and finished it out. He made me buy an automatic shower cleaner.. Really Paulie? You’ll thank me later.

300 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:51:15pm

re: #296 Lidane

There was a photo that Charles posted last night from the teabaggers where it had swastikas all over it and literally every RWNJ conspiracy and/or buzzword all over the place. There wasn’t anything remotely resembling a coherent idea on there. It was all ZOMG ELEVENTY DERP all the time.

It’s easy to distract people if you blame their problems on some nameless “other” or if you convince them that everyone else is out to get them.

You mean this one?

Yeah that’s fucked up.

301 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:55:14pm

HURR HURR
No, the Republicans want to pay the homeless guy 50¢ and then give the rich people $49.50 in tax breaks.

302 Stanley Sea  Sun, Dec 22, 2013 5:59:41pm

re: #300 Pie-onist Overlord

You mean this one?

Yeah that’s fucked up.

Is there a baby in that stroller? Poor thing.


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