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1 darthstar  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 9:17:21pm

Let’s talk about baseball.

2 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 9:49:13pm

re: #1 darthstar

Let’s talk about baseball sex.

FTFY…this is much more interesting.

Youtube Video

;-P

3 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 9:49:37pm

re: #1 darthstar

Let’s talk about baseball.

D-Backs pitchers & catchers report on Thursday.

4 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:14:16pm

Video of the 9/11 truther interrupting Malcolm Smith’s post game interview:

Youtube Video

5 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:15:35pm

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

Video of the 9/11 truther interior interrupting Malcolm Smith’s post game interview:

[Embedded content]

WTFWTS?!?

6 Kragar  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:15:38pm

re: #1 darthstar

Let’s talk about baseball.

Mine the field and allow the runner to keep the bat.

7 Lidane  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:16:01pm
8 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:23:49pm

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

Video of the 9/11 truther interior interrupting Malcolm Smith’s post game interview:

[Embedded content]

And a right wing hero is born.

9 Lidane  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:24:33pm

Heh.

10 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:29:10pm

re: #9 Lidane

The ad was patriotic. Different kinds of people showing they love their country. WTF is wrong with that?

Why do the True Patriots™ hate America?

11 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:35:18pm

You’d think a bunch of Christians wouldn’t have a problem with something being translated.

12 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:37:24pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

And a right wing hero is born.

I don’t recall any 9/11 truthers being right-wingers. They seem more to lean left.

13 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:37:49pm

re: #12 NJDhockeyfan

I don’t recall any 9/11 truthers being right-wingers. They seem more to lean left.

I was not aware of that.

14 Kragar  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:43:05pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d think a bunch of Christians wouldn’t have a problem with something being translated.

America the beautiful, like the Bible, is only meant to be in the original english

15 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:46:41pm

re: #14 Kragar

America the beautiful, like the Bible, is only meant to be in the original english

Just like how Shakespeare sounds better in the original Klingon, right?

16 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:49:31pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

I was not aware of that.

Without looking Rosie O’Donnell come to mind.

17 Lidane  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 10:54:13pm

re: #12 NJDhockeyfan

I don’t recall any 9/11 truthers being right-wingers. They seem more to lean left.

They lean conspiracy nutbar, which can be either left OR right.

For example, Alex Jones calls himself a libertarian and a conservative. And he’s King Troofer.

18 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 11:03:43pm

re: #17 Lidane

They lean conspiracy nutbar, which can be either left OR right.

For example, Alex Jones calls himself a libertarian and a conservative. And he’s King Troofer.

Thats where he connects with Rosie who is a leftie. Then it comes full circle via these coo coo birds.

19 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Sun, Feb 2, 2014 11:03:50pm

Was there some kind of chess being played here. First the MSNBC tweet predicting a RW racist freakout over the Cheerio ad, then the RW backlash ( progressives are the real racists) then a RW racist freakout over a different ad.
Please proceed wingnuts…

20 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 12:48:45am

re: #19 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

Was there some kind of chess being played here. First the MSNBC tweet predicting a RW racist freakout over the Cheerio ad, then the RW backlash ( progressives are the real racists) then a RW racist freakout over a different ad.
Please proceed wingnuts…

I used to write that the GOP has lost control of the message. But after the last GOP Freakout (which was directed at “the right” and not the GOP.

But it is clear now that the message has eaten the GOP from the inside out.

21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:35:39am

Last message somewhat garbled from being eaten by tablet)

Wanted to say that the Right WIng (which is, according to Reince Priebus, now identical with the GOP) is picking targets anywhere it sees anything in variance with its ever-stricter standards of ideological purity.

This growing list has come to include the Girl Scouts, single mothers who try to raise kids and still get an education, women who use contraception to avoid becoming single mothers in the first place, immigrants who work hard, love their new country but still hang onto the traditions and language of their old country, anyone gay or openly non-christian, people who cannot support a family on a minimum-wage job and turn to Food Stamps or other government aid (moochers) and public sector unionized workers (more moochers and takers bankrupting the government).

The list will continue to grow until it covers pretty much everyone except a few bearded guys with large gun collections.

22 freetoken  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:09:44am

MP3 Audio

23 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:19:25am

back on FT life support…

24 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:33:53am

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

The list will continue to grow until it covers pretty much everyone except a few white bearded guys with large gun collections.

FTFY.

Although it was perfectly OK for Germans, Poles, Swedes, Norwegians, etc. to continue using their mother-tongue, traditions, culture, etc, even after they had been here for many, many years. I remember as a kid seeing a Polish language newspaper in Buffalo and attending a Polish wedding and that was only 60 yrs ago.

Many cities have had small niches of “foreign” types in their Anglo-Saxon midst, such as Greeks, Jews, Cubans, Indians, etc, considered perhaps “exotic” but maintaining a presence and successfully integrating into the business community, if not into the entirety of social life.

I remember the old cynical saying of the ’60s: “If you’re Black, get back; if you’re Brown, stick around; if you’re White, you’re all right.” It’s more complicated than that, of course, because today, it’s more likely to be, “If you’re wealthy, you’ll be healthy; if you’re poor, hit the door.”

We’ll welcome you heartily if you have plenty of money and can grease the right palms, but if you need anything, go back to where you came from.

Of course, the majority of modern people on this entire continent come from somewhere else—only Natives can claim they’ve been on the North American continent for thousands of years—most who came later didn’t even know it or they existed until they saw land to be conquered and exploited for their own gain.

25 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:38:11am

And in Kiev…

26 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:40:39am

People who have no idea what patriotism and love of country really mean (like not screaming about nullification or secession every time an elected government passes legislation they disapprove of) are also the ones who stick to external symbols associated with often outdated ideas of patriotism: flag pins, pledges of allegiance, anthems, and, of course, language.

And yes, there is nothing that any normal person could have against someone expressing their love of America any way they choose. And if they choose to do it in their native tongue, they are taking nothing away from America in doing so.

27 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:41:56am

Among other reports here:

kyivpost.com

2 p.m. Activists of Democratic Alliance political party held rally near the Kyiv office of Deutsche Bank, according to facebook page of the party. They brought a bath with the word “Ukraine” painted on the inner side of it, filled it with red paint and threw dozens fake 100 Euro notes into it. The activists demanded the Bank to stop cooperating with companies linked to the family of President Viktor Yanukovych, they were holding banners “Stop working with a dictator”, “We’re being killed by your clients” — Anastasia Forina

28 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:50:43am

Corruption across EU ‘breathtaking’ - EU Commission

bbc.co.uk

“The extent of corruption in Europe is “breathtaking” and it costs the EU economy about 120bn euros (£99bn) annually, the European Commission says.

“EU Home Affairs Commissioner Cecilia Malmstroem is now presenting a full report on the problem.

“Writing in Sweden’s Goeteborgs-Posten daily, she said corruption was eroding trust in democracy and draining resources from the legal economy.”

29 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:54:02am

hahahaaa…they aren’t even pretending anymore:

A year after snub, Chris Christie will speak at CPAC 2014

After being denied a speaking slot last year at the largest annual gathering of conservatives, New Jersey Republican Gov. Chris Christie has accepted an invitation to speak at the 2014 Conservative Political Action Conference next month, Yahoo News has learned.

“We are very excited to announce that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie will speak at CPAC 2014,” American Conservative Union Chairman Al Cardenas told Yahoo News. “At this year’s CPAC - and through our theme ‘ACU’s Golden Anniversary: Getting It Right for 50 Years’ - we will celebrate how conservatism has shaped our past and look to the future with excitement. This will be the year that conservatives begin pulling the nation back from the brink of Barack Obama’s disaster with a movement that inspires, unites, and discovers new solutions to our current challenges.”

30 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:03:13am

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Last message somewhat garbled from being eaten by tablet)

Wanted to say that the Right WIng (which is, according to Reince Priebus, now identical with the GOP) is picking targets anywhere it sees anything in variance with its ever-stricter standards of ideological purity.

This growing list has come to include the Girl Scouts, single mothers who try to raise kids and still get an education, women who use contraception to avoid becoming single mothers in the first place, immigrants who work hard, love their new country but still hang onto the traditions and language of their old country, anyone gay or openly non-christian, people who cannot support a family on a minimum-wage job and turn to Food Stamps or other government aid (moochers) and public sector unionized workers (more moochers and takers bankrupting the government).

The list will continue to grow until it covers pretty much everyone except a few bearded guys with large gun collections.

Good.

31 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:05:12am

HURR HURRRR!!!!!

32 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:09:46am

re: #31 Pie-onist Overlord

see my #26…exactly what I am talking about…clinging to outdated symbols without grasping what “Liberty and Justice for all” rally mean to us and to the rest of the world.

33 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:11:43am

Good morning Lizards from something-something Philadelphia.

Morning commute (and rest of day) just got interesting. Weather turned from rain to snow in the time it took me to walk two blocks. Heavy, wet stuff that is already starting to stick, and coming down pretty hard as well.

I re-supplied over the weekend, so I should be able to hunker down and ride things out if everything gets clogged up for a few days.

34 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:13:05am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

see my #26…exactly what I am talking about…clinging to outdated symbols without grasping what “Liberty and Justice for all” rally mean to us and to the rest of the world.

The GOP is going back to a portion of its roots lock, stock, and barrel. The Know Nothing Party of the 21st Century has decided that the 20th Century never took place.
//

35 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:16:28am

re: #34 Feline Fearless Leader

The GOP is going back to a portion of its roots lock, stock, and barrel. The Know Nothing Party of the 21st Century has decided that the 20th Century never took place.
//

They used to have a lock on around 30% of the electorate and then just have to play enough to the middle to round out a majority.

Now the standards for appealing to the Right WIng have grown so demanding that satisfying them means pissing off the rest of the country: women, minorities, gays, union members, minimum-wage or union workers, etc…

36 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:20:27am

Glenn Greenwald haz a Rage at Canada.

37 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:21:28am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

People who have no idea what patriotism and love of country really mean (like not screaming about nullification or secession every time an elected government passes legislation they disapprove of) are also the ones who stick to external symbols associated with often outdated ideas of patriotism: flag pins, pledges of allegiance, anthems, and, of course, language.

And yes, there is nothing that any normal person could have against someone expressing their love of America any way they choose. And if they choose to do it in their native tongue, they are taking nothing away from America in doing so.

Call me cynical, but that a corporate advertisement has stirred up a shitpile of outrage is, well, very strange, considering that Coke, which basically makes carbonated sugar-water, like so many other American-based (well, I suppose they still are) corporations have actually become international in their practices, if not in protecting their money and assets.

Can we defend the actions of corporations while damning the govt that corporations would like to completely control?

Does a feel-good ad from Coke make you feel better about them, or does this glass make you feel better about drinking junk?

Will your Coke taste better in a specially designed $20 Riedel glass?

latimes.com

38 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:22:26am
39 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:25:42am

re: #37 Justanotherhuman

Call me cynical, but that a corporate advertisement has stirred up a shitpile of outrage is, well, very strange, considering that Coke, which basically makes carbonated sugar-water, like so many other American-based (well, I suppose they still are) corporations have actually become international in their practices, if not in protecting their money and assets.

Can we defend the actions of corporations while damning the govt that corporations would like to completely control?

Does a feel-good ad from Coke make you feel better about them, or does this glass make you feel better about drinking junk?

Will your Coke taste better in a specially designed $20 Riedel glass?

latimes.com

It actually might taste better within a certain spectrum of “taste”. That’s going from the fact that for other carbonated beverages such as wine or beer different shapes of glasses are used to enhance how you encounter the scents and bubbles of the drink.

Beyond that, I think the main amusement of the commercial was that when it showed there were 3-4 immediate comments here that the right-wing nuts were going to explode over it — and they promptly did. And it was not an outrageous, pot-stirring commercial. It was a feel-good Coke commercial.

40 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:26:42am

re: #33 Feline Fearless Leader

Good morning Lizards from something-something Philadelphia.

Morning commute (and rest of day) just got interesting. Weather turned from rain to snow in the time it took me to walk two blocks. Heavy, wet stuff that is already starting to stick, and coming down pretty hard as well.

I re-supplied over the weekend, so I should be able to hunker down and ride things out if everything gets clogged up for a few days.

“Heavy, wet stuff…” Yay! Snowballs and snow figures…how about a large snow cat?

41 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:28:49am

re: #40 Justanotherhuman

“Heavy, wet stuff…” Yay! Snowballs and snow figures…how about a large snow cat?

Has possibilities. If this is Atlanta-class plastic snow I can char it to make a black cat as well.
:)

42 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:35:29am

re: #39 Feline Fearless Leader

It actually might taste better within a certain spectrum of “taste”. That’s going from the fact that for other carbonated beverages such as wine or beer different shapes of glasses are used to enhance how you encounter the scents and bubbles of the drink.

Beyond that, I think the main amusement of the commercial was that when it showed there were 3-4 immediate comments here that the right-wing nuts were going to explode over it — and they promptly did. And it was not an outrageous, pot-stirring commercial. It was a real-good Coke commercial.

Our neighbor gave us 4 Guinness pints but unfortunately, they don’t make Bud taste any better. : )

Actually, Coca Cola corp may have made a feel-good political statement, but you can bet it was for its own bottom line.

43 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:38:33am

re: #42 Justanotherhuman

Our neighbor gave us 4 Guinness pints but unfortunately, they don’t make Bud taste any better. : )

Actually, Coca Cola corp may have made a feel-good political statement, but you can bet it was for its own bottom line.

That is the purpose of commercials, no?

44 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:39:44am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaaa…they aren’t even pretending anymore:

A year after snub, Chris Christie will speak at CPAC 2014

I know I’ve been predicting this for a while now, as have over posters here.

As I’ve said before, I did not want this guy running NJ. One of my major reasons for not voting for him was the drift towards insanity that Republicans are unapologetically embracing. However, I was hoping he would at least try to be honest and try not to go full wingnut.

Your moderate Republican savior, America.

45 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:41:01am

re: #42 Justanotherhuman

Our neighbor gave us 4 Guinness pints but unfortunately, they don’t make Bud taste any better. : )

Actually, Coca Cola corp may have made a feel-good political statement, but you can bet it was for its own bottom line.

Anything that exposes the true racist nature of the Tea Baggers is fine with me.

46 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:44:47am

Chandler PD: Woman injects feces into husband’s IV

A 65-year-old Sun Lakes woman faces a charge of attempted first-degree murder after Chandler police said she injected feces into the IV of her husband, who was recovering from surgery.

Rose Mary Vogel was in a Chandler Regional Medical Center recovery room with her 66-year-old husband around 1:30 p.m. Thursday after he underwent surgery on his heart, according to the police report.

Vogel is a retired nurse who had worked at Chandler Regional, police said.

“This was not your typical Rose Mary. It was like another person or a demon got a hold of her or she snapped,” said neighbor Mary Lola Reese. Reese, and her husband John have known Mary Rose Vogel and her husband for more than a decade and never saw anything out of the ordinary.

“They seemed very happy. We never expected anything,” said John Reese.

47 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:45:27am

re: #43 NJDhockeyfan

Oh sure, but the ‘baggers don’t want to acknowledge that.

Meanwhile, this.

Clashes in C.Africa town kill at least 75: priest

google.com

Bangui (Central African Republic) — At least 75 people have been killed in clashes in a town in the strife-torn Central African Republic since Tuesday and the fighting is still going on, a local priest told AFP.

“Cassien Kamatari said his parish was sheltering 1,500 people who had fled the violence between Christians and Muslims in the town of Boda, 100 kilometres (60 miles) west of the capital Bangui.

(snip)

“At least 60 people were killed and many others injured, 15 of whom died of their injuries,” Kamatari added.” (More)

48 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:48:24am

re: #44 Mattand

I know I’ve been predicting this for a while now, as have over posters here.

As I’ve said before, I did not want this guy running NJ. One of my major reasons for not voting for him was the drift towards insanity that Republicans are unapologetically embracing. However, I was hoping he would at least try to be honest and try not to go full wingnut.

Your moderate Republican savior, America.

Via TPM, here’s who Christie will be sharing the freak show with:

Other confirmed speakers at the confab, which is scheduled for March 6-8, include Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum (R).

Looks like the Clown Car is revving its engine already. I can hear “Entry of the Gladiators” playing on the dashboard radio.

49 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:51:08am

re: #48 Mattand

Other confirmed speakers at the confab, which is scheduled for March 6-8, include Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum (R).

And just think: That lot is the “respectable” part of the R party that got elected.

50 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:51:31am
51 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:01:23am

I eagerly await hearing the latest nonsense from CPAC speakers, which should be about the same as last year’s nonsense.

52 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:02:02am

re: #51 wheat-dogghazi

I eagerly await hearing the latest nonsense from CPAC speakers, which should be about the same as last year’s nonsense.

Though you can count on Rubio to adjust his predictions as the conditions change.
//

53 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:04:17am

Good morning lizards!

I’m quite impressed with Roger Goodell’s weather-control abilities. Make it feel like early spring for the Superbowl, and hold off the 5-8” of snow until Monday, and the ice/freezing rain until Tuesday night!

Also, I’m happy (////) to see that the wingnut right has stooped to the occasion re: the Coke commercial. Among the people I watched the game with was a Latina woman who works in internet marketing. We both looked at each other and said, “this is going to piss off a bunch of people”. She then followed twitter for the rest of the game to see just how bad it got. It got bad.

54 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:04:54am

re: #1 darthstar

Pitchers and catchers report February 13/14. Woo!!!!

The Super Bowl was a big bunch of meh. It was over from the opening drive by Denver. They just never got in the game, and by the 4th Quarter it looked like Denver just wanted to go home, running out the clock.

Awful.

But the music performances were kick-ass. Great national anthem by Renee Fleming, and the halftime show was awesome. Bruno Mars brought it and RHCP rocked the house.

But that just couldn’t make up for the lackluster game.

Even the ads were mostly meh. My favorites were the Radio Shack and Bud commercials. And what was Bob Dylan doing shilling cars?

55 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:06:32am

THEY ALREADY DO

56 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:06:37am

re: #53 Ian G.

Watched the Coke commercial and thought, yeah, that’s going to rub the right people the wrong way. And sure enough, it did.

Good.

These people are in a self-imposed bubble that refuses to acknowledge that the nation is more than just a bunch of entitled middle aged white people.

57 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:07:10am

Also, I’m still in disbelief over Phillip Seymour Hoffman. One of the greatest actors of his generation….gone. I dunno, I usually don’t get upset over celebrity deaths, but this one bothers me, especially given the young family he left behind.

58 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:07:17am

re: #54 lawhawk

Pitchers and catchers report February 13/14. Woo!!!!

The Super Bowl was a big bunch of meh. It was over from the opening drive by Denver. They just never got in the game, and by the 4th Quarter it looked like Denver just wanted to go home, running out the clock.

Awful.

But the music performances were kick-ass. Great national anthem by Renee Fleming, and the halftime show was awesome. Bruno Mars brought it and RHCP rocked the house.

But that just couldn’t make up for the lackluster game.

Even the ads were mostly meh. My favorites were the Radio Shack and Bud commercials. And what was Bob Dylan doing shilling cars?

Things have changed.

59 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:08:33am

re: #55 Pie-onist Overlord

THEY ALREADY DO

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“mestizos”? Is this a new meme on the wingnut right? That “white” Hispanics can be Real ‘Murkans, but those with alternate ancestries are an alien presence here?

60 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:10:27am

re: #59 Ian G.

“mestizos”? Is this a new meme on the wingnut right? That “white” Hispanics can be Real ‘Murkans, but those with alternate ancestries are an alien presence here?

That Hispanic is a language/cultural and not a race division still has them confused.

61 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:11:44am

First the fake chemtrail snow, now the t-bagger assault on its main company - tough week for Atlanta.
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62 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:12:25am

HURR HURR!!1!!!!!

63 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:13:22am

“Waddington” LOL

64 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:13:53am

re: #61 b.d.

First the fake chemtrail snow, now the t-bagger assault on its main company - tough week for Atlanta.
//

That’s right, Coca-Cola is headquartered in the middle of Wingnutistan. Well, they could always relocate to Detroit if the angry mobs outside headquarters don’t disperse.

65 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:14:17am

So now the Tea Partiers are going to drink Pepsi, the cola with a logo that looks like Obama’s campaign logo?

66 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:14:18am

re: #54 lawhawk

Pitchers and catchers report February 13/14. Woo!!!!

The Super Bowl was a big bunch of meh. It was over from the opening drive by Denver. They just never got in the game, and by the 4th Quarter it looked like Denver just wanted to go home, running out the clock.

Awful.

But the music performances were kick-ass. Great national anthem by Renee Fleming, and the halftime show was awesome. Bruno Mars brought it and RHCP rocked the house.

But that just couldn’t make up for the lackluster game.

Even the ads were mostly meh. My favorites were the Radio Shack and Bud commercials. And what was Bob Dylan doing shilling cars?

Heh. Though I couldn’t watch the game live, I followed it. A a former resident of the Pacific Northwest, and Washington State, a Seahawks victory was sweet.

This front page from the Denver Post pretty much says it all - this wasn’t so much a football game as much as it was a rout:

67 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:15:45am

This wingnut must be a drunk Broncos fan.

68 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:16:31am

re: #65 b.d.

So now the Tea Partiers are going to drink Pepsi, the cola with a logo that looks like Obama’s campaign logo?

They’ll drink Pepsi until they find out that Pepsico is pretty supportive of LGBT rights.

pepsico.com

Edit: make that very supportive of LGBT rights.

69 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:16:50am

re: #58 Feline Fearless Leader

And what was Bob Dylan doing shilling cars?

I saw that. I bet his fans are disappointed and are calling him a ‘sell out’.

70 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:17:35am

I guess Coke wanted the boost Cheerios got last time.

71 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:17:49am

re: #59 Ian G.

“mestizos”? Is this a new meme on the wingnut right? That “white” Hispanics can be Real ‘Murkans, but those with alternate ancestries are an alien presence here?

That’s the way it’s always been. Cuban exiles in Charlotte (white European types) were always welcomed over the years. Mexicans? Haitians? Fuggetaboutit. They are about as welcome as the Vietnamese refugees during the ’70s. Those groups continue to struggle. The small Indian population is looked at askew, but most tend to be well-educated (teaching in the colleges, engineering and computer cos for the most part) and have decent incomes; they even hold a kind of “India Fest” every year downtown (I’ve been to it—it’s more like a bazaar than anything else).

If you don’t have white skin, you’d better be well-educated and/or have money to be welcome in the south.

72 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:18:10am

TOTALLY WASTED

73 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:18:31am

re: #69 NJDhockeyfan

I saw that. I bet his fans are disappointed and are calling him a ‘sell out’.

No, that was Newport in ‘64.

74 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:18:44am

We should demand that Chik-Fil-A quit selling Coca Cola and that they switch over to Royal Crown or Pibb!

75 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:21:59am

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

Well, with luck, they’ll all start drinking water, and we taxpayers won’t be on the hook for diabetes treatments via Medicare.

76 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:22:16am

re: #55 Pie-onist Overlord

THEY ALREADY DO

Blacks have NAACP, mestizos have La Raza, Asians have 80-20 Initiative, Indians have USINPAC. Whites need an advocacy group too!

She isn’t aware of the Percale Patriots.

77 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:22:33am

re: #74 b.d.

We should demand that Chik-Fil-A quit selling Coca Cola and that they switch over to Royal Crown or Pibb!

Pibb is owned by Coca Cola and RC Cola is owned by Cott Industries of Canada. You know, Canada…….where SSM is legal.

Poor wingnuts.

lololol

78 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:22:52am

Reporting delays of 3 hrs at Newark.

79 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:23:00am

re: #75 Ian G.

Well, with luck, they’ll all start drinking water, and we taxpayers won’t be on the hook for diabetes treatments via Medicare.

LOL.

80 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:24:47am

WE SHOULD MAKE OUR OWN TEA PARTY COLA!!!

81 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:25:30am

re: #75 Ian G.

Well, with luck, they’ll all start drinking water, and we taxpayers won’t be on the hook for diabetes treatments via Medicare.

Here in the Czech Republic, RC Cola is fairly popular. Of course, the Czechs have their own soft drink, Kofola.

en.wikipedia.org

It tastes different from either Coke, Pepsi, or RC Cola; it’s an acquired taste, but it’s actually quite good.

82 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:25:43am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Pibb is owned by Coca Cola and RC Cola is owned by Cott Industries of Canada. You know, Canada…….where SSM is legal.

Poor wingnuts.

lololol

Ah, now I understand why RCs taste differently than when I was a kid.

An RC cola and a Moon Pie (which also taste like shit these days) used to be the “snack of the day” in the south.

Youtube Video

83 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:26:17am
84 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:26:42am

re: #80 b.d.

WE SHOULD MAKE OUR OWN TEA PARTY COLA!!!

YEAH, WE CAN CALL IT KRAZY KOOL KOLA! Oh, wait…..

85 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:28:49am

re: #82 Justanotherhuman

The cola drinks I’ve encountered here are made with cane sugar, not HFCS oddly enough.

86 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:31:04am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

The cola drinks I’ve encountered here are made with cane sugar, not HFCS oddly enough.

Yes, I’ve noticed European and Mexican desserts/cookies/etc taste so much better for that reason. In North America, we’re stuck with sickeningly sweet, obesity-inducing HFCS (corn lobby, maybe?)

87 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:31:05am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

The cola drinks I’ve encountered here are made with cane sugar, not HFCS oddly enough.

Same here in China. The only time I got cane sugar Coke in the States was during the Passover season.

88 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:31:16am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

The cola drinks I’ve encountered here are made with cane sugar, not HFCS oddly enough.

I would think that HFCS is probably a North American thing given our large corn crop. The other regions probably have a different main source for sugar (cane or beet) and thus I would expect they use that as their sweetener of choice.

89 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:31:31am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

The cola drinks I’ve encountered here are made with cane sugar, not HFCS oddly enough.

“Kosher for Passover” Coca Cola is made with cane sugar. When the kosher grocery receives its cases of Coke for the holiday, there are always a bunch of people standing in line. Who knew so many Jews honored the holy Passover!

What, they’re not even Jewish?

90 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:31:47am

Yikes! Glad they caught this guy. This could have ended horribly.

Suspect arrested in arson at Neighbours nightclub

Seattle Police arrested 30-year-old Musab Masmari Saturday morning in connection with the arson at Neighbours nightclub on January 1.

Police took Masmari into custody as he was en route to the airport.

Police say following the arrest, Masmari was interviewed by detectives and later booked into the King County Jail for Investigation of Arson.

It was just after midnight on New Year’s Eve while nearly 700 people crammed into Neighbours for a celebration when customers noticed the staircase at the iconic gay club was on fire.

Management at the iconic gay club in Capitol Hill later discovered a gasoline container near the stairs.

No one was injured.

91 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:32:14am

re: #89 Pie-onist Overlord

“Kosher for Passover” Coca Cola is made with cane sugar. When the kosher grocery receives its cases of Coke for the holiday, there are always a bunch of people standing in line. Who knew so many Jews honored the holy Passover!

What, they’re not even Jewish?

I hate to break it to ya …

92 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:33:05am

re: #82 Justanotherhuman

Ah, now I understand why RCs taste differently than when I was a kid.

An RC cola and a Moon Pie (which also taste like shit these days) used to be the “snack of the day” in the south.

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In 1950’s Pittsburgh Dr. Pepper was considered a ‘Colored’ drink because it was only found in the neighborhoods where large numbers of Blacks had immigrated from the South. (At the time, ‘Black’ was a fairly hateful insult and ‘Colored’ was a fairly polite descriptor.)

93 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:33:12am

In my part of Wingnutstan the drinks of choice are sweet tea, Bud Lite or Mountain Dew.
I pretty much stick with water and folks think I’m strange…

94 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:33:17am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

The cola drinks I’ve encountered here are made with cane sugar, not HFCS oddly enough.

I think HFCS may be banned by the EU. I try to find European jams and preserves simply because they always use cane sugar, even the ones carried by the Dollar General (I check ingredients) which sometimes gets them from Eastern European countries. Bonne Maman (Belgium & France) is a popular brand in the UK and Europe from what I understand and was carried by my local supermarket for a while, but no one wanted to pay $3.50 for it.

95 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:33:59am

re: #91 wheat-dogghazi

I hate to break it to ya …

They come in swarms, buy out all the cane sugar Coca Cola and then we are left with only the Faygo Seltzer.

96 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:35:10am

re: #88 Feline Fearless Leader

I would think that HFCS is probably a North American thing given our large corn crop. The other regions probably have a different main source for sugar (cane or beet) and thus I would expect they use that as their sweetener of choice.

There is long, long story about the USA’s use of cane sugar, beet sugar and HFCS. Some of it involves Latin America, trade embargoes, tariffs, and the corn lobby. The short version is HFCS is way cheaper and easier to use than granulated sugar of any kind.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:35:20am

I haz about five inches of snow here:

Looks pretty…

98 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:35:39am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

In my part of Wingnutstan the drinks of choice are sweet tea, Bud Lite or Mountain Dew.
I pretty much stick with water and folks think I’m strange…

In restaurants here, they think you’re just cheap if you order water.

99 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:36:29am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is that an old pickup I spy there?

100 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:36:40am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

That could be a nice print.

101 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:36:44am

re: #96 wheat-dogghazi

There is long, long story about the USA’s use of cane sugar, beet sugar and HFCS. Some of it involves Latin America, trade embargoes, tariffs, and the corn lobby. The short version is HFCS is way cheaper and easier to use than granulated sugar of any kind.

And sanctions against Cuba.

102 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:37:26am

re: #99 wheat-dogghazi

Is that an old pickup I spy there?

‘48 Dodge

103 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:37:37am

re: #99 wheat-dogghazi

Is that an old pickup I spy there?

Beat me to it—thought it was likely to be a restorable old truck.

104 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:37:42am

re: #95 Pie-onist Overlord

They come in swarms, buy out all the cane sugar Coca Cola and then we are left with only the Faygo Seltzer.

I apologize for my fellow goyim. We miss the real Classic Coke, and KfP Coke tastes just like it.

105 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:38:00am

re: #100 Political Atheist

That could be a nice print.

Thanks! The barn usually photographs well.

106 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:38:08am

re: #86 Interesting Times

re: #87 wheat-dogghazi

re: #89 Pie-onist Overlord

That explains it. Czechs I’ve known who’ve traveled to the US and had a Coca-Cola or whatnot have all said “It tasted funny”.

And none of them liked American yogurt either; they all said it had no taste, and the selections were limited. My favorite yogurt here is a brand called Choპnsky, and they have a chocolate-hazelnut yogurt that’s second to none.

107 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:38:35am

re: #101 Justanotherhuman

De veras.

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good choice. Does it run?

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:38:40am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Beat me to it—thought is was likely to be a restorable old truck.

It’s one of MrBWS’ restoration projects.

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:39:23am

re: #104 wheat-dogghazi

I apologize for my fellow goyim. We miss the real Classic Coke, and KfP Coke tastes just like it.

KfP Coke IS Teh Original Coke.

The store should order more product so there is enough for everyone.

110 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:39:47am

re: #107 wheat-dogghazi

Good choice. Does it run?

Sort of runs. Doesn’t move, though (yet).

111 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:40:22am

re: #94 Justanotherhuman

I think HFCS may be banned by the EU. I try to find European jams and preserves simply because they always use cane sugar, even the ones carried by the Dollar General (I check ingredients) which sometimes gets them from Eastern European countries. Bonne Maman (Belgium & France) is a popular brand in the UK and Europe from what I understand and was carried by my local supermarket for a while, but no one wanted to pay $3.50 for it.

I’ve heard that, but I don’t know for certain whether that’s true or not. A lot of Europeans have said to me that the use of HFCS as an additive or ingredient is banned in the EU.

112 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:40:36am

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

KfP Coke IS Teh Original Coke.

The store should order more product so there is enough for everyone.

Agreed. I think the whole New Coke thing was a smokescreen to cover up switching out cane sugar for the cheaper HFCS.

113 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:42:12am

So, apparently Coke puts out a Superb Owl commercial that dares to point out that lots of different people live in this country, not all of whom speak English as their first language but all of whom love their country just as much.

The intellectually bankrupt American Right proceeds to completely lose its shit.

Summon the meteors. It’s what this nation deserves.

114 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:42:14am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

I’ve heard that, but I don’t know for certain whether that’s true or not. A lot of Europeans have said to me that the use of HFCS as an additive or ingredient is banned in the EU.

Cane sugar may be cheaper in the EU than in the USA, for the same reasons I mentioned earlier. I remember reading that 5 lbs of sugar in the States is more expensive than in other countries.

115 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:45:22am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

I’ve heard that, but I don’t know for certain whether that’s true or not. A lot of Europeans have said to me that the use of HFCS as an additive or ingredient is banned in the EU.

Actually, it’s limited by production quota, according to this. But I also think a lot of Europeans would balk at buying anything much containing it.

“In the European Union (EU), HFCS, known as isoglucose in sugar regime, is subject to a production quota. In 2005, this quota was set at 303,000 tons; in comparison, the EU produced an average of 18.6 million tons of sugar annually between 1999 and 2001.[38] Wide-scale replacement of sugar with HFCS has not occurred in the EU. For labeling purpose, syrup with more than 50% of glucose, like HFCS 42, called Glucose-Fructose Syrup(GFS), and more than 50% of fructose, like HFCS 55, called Fructose-Glucose Syrup(FGS), although production within Europe is minimal.”

en.wikipedia.org

116 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:45:31am

re: #114 wheat-dogghazi

Cane sugar may be cheaper in the EU than in the USA, for the same reasons I mentioned earlier. I remember reading that 5 lbs of sugar in the States is more expensive than in other countries.

A one-kilo bag of sugar here is 12 crowns, which is about 59 cents US.

117 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:46:30am

re: #115 Justanotherhuman

OK, that explains why it’s not commonly used.

118 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:47:55am

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

A one-kilo bag of sugar here is 12 crowns, which is about 59 cents US.

That’s about the same as a 4 lb house brand here in the states, which runs around $2.50. Yes, they’ve reduced the size and are charging the same amount as they used to charge for 5 lbs. I mainly use it in tea for my grandson, but I’ve switched to Splenda when I want sweet coffee.

119 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:48:30am

re: #114 wheat-dogghazi

I bought sugar recently, so I just went in the kitchen to check the price. 6.80 yuan/kg That’s about 51 cents/lb.

120 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:50:40am

Many of my Czech students here are convinced that HFCS is one of the reasons why so many Americans seem to be so fat. I honestly don’t know how much truth there is in that; I’ve read both pro and con in that argument.

121 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:51:10am

re: #115 Justanotherhuman

The bad thing is, HFCS is used in everything from coatings for frozen foods (like chicken, fish and mfg’d meals) to peanut butter to cookies, cakes, etc. Food mfgrs seldom use cane sugar to make anything in the US.

122 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:54:43am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

Many of my Czech students here are convinced that HFCS is one of the reasons why so many Americans seem to be so fat. I honestly don’t know how much truth there is in that; I’ve read both pro and con in that argument.

HFCS itself is not the cause. However, HFCS is the sweetener of choice for the plethora of ultra-calorie-dense crap that Americans eat.

Having embarked on a weight loss regimen that I believe it’s fair to call ‘very successful’, and having been a typical junk-swilling bachelor for most of my life before that, I feel pretty qualified to remark on it. Most of my fellow denizens eat a whole bunch of stuff that is preposterously dense, caloricaly speaking, leading to massive levels of overeating. Our stomachs are keyed on volume, not density, so a candy bar or a coke that has the caloric content of a full meal doesn’t fill like a real full meal, and leads people to eating more.

123 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:55:26am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

Many of my Czech students here are convinced that HFCS is one of the reasons why so many Americans seem to be so fat. I honestly don’t know how much truth there is in that; I’ve read both pro and con in that argument.

A lot of researchers maintain that HFCS is metabolized differently than cane sugar (sucrose). I think it’s the amount of consumption that really makes a difference. When you’re drinking 2 or 3 soft drinks a day, rather than the occasional one that we drank when I was a kid, you’re going to put the lbs on.

124 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:56:51am

re: #122 GunstarGreen

HFCS itself is not the cause. However, HFCS is the sweetener of choice for the plethora of ultra-calorie-dense crap that Americans eat.

Having embarked on a weight loss regimen that I believe it’s fair to call ‘very successful’, and having been a typical junk-swilling bachelor for most of my life before that, I feel pretty qualified to remark on it. Most of my fellow denizens eat a whole bunch of stuff that is preposterously dense, caloricaly speaking, leading to massive levels of overeating. Our stomachs are keyed on volume, not density, so a candy bar or a coke that has the caloric content of a full meal doesn’t fill like a real full meal, and leads people to eating more.

You’re absolutely correct. I lost 36 lbs following a high fiber, mostly veggie diet, and gained 10 lbs back by indulging in crap over the holidays.

125 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 6:58:57am

re: #123 Justanotherhuman

A lot of researchers maintain that HFCS is metabolized differently than cane sugar (sucrose). I think it’s the amount of consumption that really makes a difference. When you’re drinking 2 or 3 soft drinks a day, rather than the occasional one that we drank when I was a kid, you’re going to put the lbs on.

As I understand, HFCS is more like fructose, which both metabolize faster than sucrose, being simpler sugars. So, your system gets a bigger influx of carbohydrates with each drink or meal. And, if you check your food labels, HFCS is in practically everything, even foods that are not sweets, so you’re getting a constant infusion of sugar into your system.

126 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:00:08am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

And a right wing Troofer hero is born.

Not all ‘9/11 Truthers’ are from the political right, some are from the left. It is also a fact that the strong majority of those on the right do not believe in that conspiracy theory. Thus to say that Troofer is going to be a “right wing hero” is not accurate.

127 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:01:02am

re: #122 GunstarGreen

HFCS itself is not the cause. However, HFCS is the sweetener of choice for the plethora of ultra-calorie-dense crap that Americans eat.

Having embarked on a weight loss regimen that I believe it’s fair to call ‘very successful’, and having been a typical junk-swilling bachelor for most of my life before that, I feel pretty qualified to remark on it. Most of my fellow denizens eat a whole bunch of stuff that is preposterously dense, caloricaly speaking, leading to massive levels of overeating. Our stomachs are keyed on volume, not density, so a candy bar or a coke that has the caloric content of a full meal doesn’t fill like a real full meal, and leads people to eating more.

To a large extent I agree. High caloric density makes trying to lose inches worse. At the same time there is some basis to think it’s not the only thing, that corn based sugar has issues above and beyond its caloric density.

oh - and as someone who used to bother, has gained, and knows he has to get back to where he’s supposed to be, congrats on maintaining. FWIW, what worked in the past - and the reason for my gain - is that I took measure of how many calories I was eating and made sure I was burning that much. It’s oddly easier to increase the out than it is to decrease the in.

128 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:01:25am

re: #125 wheat-dogghazi

As I understand, HFCS is more like fructose, which both metabolize faster than sucrose, being simpler sugars. So, your system gets a bigger influx of carbohydrates with each drink or meal. And, if you check your food labels, HFCS is in practically everything, even foods that are not sweets, so you’re getting a constant infusion of sugar into your system.

Portion sizes play a part in that as well. My ex-wife commented that a small hamburger at an American McD’s was the equivalent of a Junior Big Mac in the Czech Republic.

129 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:04:36am

HURR HURR!!!1!!! UNLESS YOUR TEH GHEY OR YOUR A PREGNANT WOMAN OR A DEAD PREGNANT WOMAN!!!1!!!!!!

130 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:05:14am

re: #128 Dr Lizardo

Portion sizes play a part in that as well. My ex-wife commented that a small hamburger at an American McD’s was the equivalent of a Junior Big Mac in the Czech Republic.

Oh, for sure! When I come back to the States, I am a little overwhelmed at the size of the portions. Even before I left for China, I switched to buying junior meals at Burger King and similar places, because the regular meals were too much.

I lost 4 kilos after moving to China, mostly because there are no fast food joints to tempt me, other than KFC.

131 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:07:17am

re: #129 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!1!!! UNLESS YOUR TEH GHEY OR YOUR A PREGNANT WOMAN OR A DEAD PREGNANT WOMAN!!!1!!!!!!

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or non-white.

132 freetoken  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:08:18am

Certainly the Derpularity was broached with that Coke commercial.

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:08:19am
134 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:08:22am

re: #131 kirkspencer

or non-white.

or speak anything but English.

135 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:10:48am

re: #130 wheat-dogghazi

Oh, for sure! When I come back to the States, I am a little overwhelmed at the size of the portions. Even before I left for China, I switched to buying junior meals at Burger King and similar places, because the regular meals were too much.

I lost 4 kilos after moving to China, mostly because there are no fast food joints to tempt me, other than KFC.

When I first came to the Czech Republic, oh so long ago (going on 13 years) I weighed 215 pounds. Within one year, I weighed 180 pounds, which is where I’ve basically stayed ever since. Being 6’ 2”, that’s not bad. Aside from portion sizes, I get more physical activity. Here, I think nothing of walking to a hypermarket that’s 2.5 miles away, weather permitting, for a total of a 5-mile hike both ways.

When I lived in the US, I’d hop in my car for a destination less than half a mile away.

136 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:11:29am

re: #121 Justanotherhuman

The bad thing is, HFCS is used in everything from coatings for frozen foods (like chicken, fish and mfg’d meals) to peanut butter to cookies, cakes, etc. Food mfgrs seldom use cane sugar to make anything in the US.

And that’s not likely to change, given that the sugar import tariffs are not actually in place to support corn growers, they are in place to protect domestic sugar growers (both cane and beets). The problem is, as Newt Gingrich said in one of the 2012 primary debates, the sugar industry in the US is very good at defending its price supports and tariffs. Whenever there is any move to change either, they trot out sugar beet farmers who talk about how the change will cost them their farms and ruin their children’s lives.

The problem is that the news media eats that kind of story up and it is almost impossible to reply to. This is because one cannot say “I know what I am proposing will hurt this man badly, but it will do good for some many others.” without sounding like some sort of monster. Hence the anti-HFCS activists are generally stuck.

137 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:12:08am

re: #127 kirkspencer

Yep. Key to my success is portion control. I spend five minutes each morning measuring the amounts of stuff I put in my lunchbox, and an additional minute or so measuring out dinner when I get home. At restaurants I have to eyeball it, but I’ve gotten pretty good at that and, in any case, I know the numbers. Beef is 5oz for a serving (in my case), so when a restaurant has a 12oz steak on the menu, I cut off a bit less than half of it and there’s the serving. Rest goes in the doggie bag for later in the week (twice a week, never two days in a row).

re: #128 Dr Lizardo

Portion sizes play a part in that as well. My ex-wife commented that a small hamburger at an American McD’s was the equivalent of a Junior Big Mac in the Czech Republic.

Yep. Like the example above: serving size for beef is around 5oz, most restaurant steaks are 10oz+. I’ve seen them go up to 16oz. I used to eat the whole thing, nowadays I can’t fathom doing something like that.

138 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:12:27am

re: #128 Dr Lizardo

If there are 150 calories in a “serving” of Cheetos, and there are six servings in a bag, if you eat the entire bag while online, you’ve consumed half the calories you need to get through the day of sitting on your ass. Add a few sodas, and you’re done for the day. You’ve consumed nothing but junk, but wait—you’ve probably eaten a couple of meals, too, at least. : ) (This is not about you specifically, but just an example of how easy it can be for anyone to pile on the lbs.) I think we’ve become too sedentary as a nation, on the whole. Thus, the initiatives of FLOTUS on eating and exercising.

That’s another thing about winter, though. In the past month, the weather has been so awful here, it’s hard to expend many calories in a small apt when you don’t really have to leave it for much. Today and tomorrow, we have rain, even though the temp is mild, in the 50s.

139 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:16:53am

re: #106 Dr Lizardo

That explains it. Czechs I’ve known who’ve traveled to the US and had a Coca-Cola or whatnot have all said “It tasted funny”.

Kosher Coke is made with cane sugar here. Sadly, it’s not available year-round.

We’ve given up on store-bought soda and got a SodaStream a couple of years ago. I guess that puts me in bad stead with the Dudebros, but whatever.

EDIT: I see this has been pointed out already. Note to self - read back first, post after.

Snowing pretty hard here. It’s quiet as a church outside this morning.

140 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:17:48am

re: #138 Justanotherhuman

With the cheetohs and soda, it wouldn’t matter how much you exercised. Sedentary or not, when you’re doing 2K cals without even touching real food for your ‘real meals’, you’re putting on weight.

As for winter exercise? Not as fun as going outside certainly, but you can do calisthenics just about anywhere that you can fit a human body. Pushups, situps, jumping jacks; it’s how I’ve been getting through the winter.

141 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:18:43am

re: #138 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, people are getting more sedentary; not just in the US, but here in Europe as well.

142 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:19:15am

re: #130 wheat-dogghazi

Oh, for sure! When I come back to the States, I am a little overwhelmed at the size of the portions. Even before I left for China, I switched to buying junior meals at Burger King and similar places, because the regular meals were too much.

I lost 4 kilos after moving to China, mostly because there are no fast food joints to tempt me, other than KFC.

The Colonel is the most popular military figure in the Far East. He is Legion.

143 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:19:37am

re: #139 makeitstop

Kosher Coke is made with cane sugar here. Sadly, it’s not available year-round.

We’ve given up on store-bought soda and got a SodaStream a couple of years ago. I guess that puts me in bad stead with the Dudebros, but whatever.

Why do the Dudebros hate SodaStream?

144 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:20:45am

re: #140 GunstarGreen

With the cheetohs and soda, it wouldn’t matter how much you exercised. Sedentary or not, when you’re doing 2K cals without even touching real food for your ‘real meals’, you’re putting on weight.

As for winter exercise? Not as fun as going outside certainly, but you can do calisthenics just about anywhere that you can fit a human body. Pushups, situps, jumping jacks; it’s how I’ve been getting through the winter.

Even in the winter, I’ll still bundle up and take a one-hour walk around the neighborhood, or in the forests surrounding the area. I may not do it every day during the winter months, but at least once every other day. During spring/summer/autumn, I’ll go out daily.

145 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:20:46am

re: #142 Feline Fearless Leader

The Colonel is the most popular military figure in the Far East. He is Legion.

We have their General Tso, they have our Colonel Sanders.

146 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:21:00am

re: #143 b.d.

Israel

147 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:21:37am

Missouri Senate Committee Votes To Jail Federal Agents Who Enforce Gun Laws

The Missouri Senate’s General Laws Committee voted 5-1 last week in favor of a bill that purports to make it a crime for federal law enforcement agents to enforce the nation’s gun laws. Under the bill’s terms, these agents could be imprisoned for up to a year and be fined up to $1,000.

Much of this unconstitutional legislation mirrors a bill Gov. Jay Nixon (D) vetoed last year. In September, Missouri’s overwhelmingly Republican senate came just one vote shy of the votes necessary to override Nixon’s veto. Like the bill Nixon vetoed last year, the new legislation contains a provision to arm public school personnel. It also would lower the minimum age to receive a concealed weapons permit from 21 to 19.

148 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:21:40am

re: #143 b.d.

Why do the Dudebros hate SodaStream?

Israeli-owned, I believe. All manner of Dudebro derp ensues.

Witness the Dudebro freakout over Scarlett Johansen’s Superb Owl spot.

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:21:44am

re: #143 b.d.

Why do the Dudebros hate SodaStream?

HURR HURR!!!1!!!! IT MADE IN TEH OCCUPIED TERRITORIES & CREATES JRRBS FOR TEH PALESTINIANS!!11!!!!!

150 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:22:57am

re: #140 GunstarGreen

With the cheetohs and soda, it wouldn’t matter how much you exercised. Sedentary or not, when you’re doing 2K cals without even touching real food for your ‘real meals’, you’re putting on weight.

As for winter exercise? Not as fun as going outside certainly, but you can do calisthenics just about anywhere that you can fit a human body. Pushups, situps, jumping jacks; it’s how I’ve been getting through the winter.

re the ‘doesn’t matter how much you exercise’ line, no.

Years ago I was eating 5500 calories a day (plus/minus a few hundred) and did not gain weight. Some of that was junk. It is, by the way, why I’m rather conscious of the intake/outgo formula. Because my first balloon was when I quit doing that job and found it hard to cut back the intake.

But if you’re in near-constant motion for 12-14 hours a day that includes bursts of high intensity effort, you’re going to burn a lot of calories.

151 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:23:24am

re: #148 makeitstop

re: #149 Pie-onist Overlord

re: #146 Internet Tough Guy

Oh. Get a life Dudebros.

152 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:24:24am

re: #151 b.d.

Oh. Get a life Dudebros.

THEY CAN’T THE NSA IS WATCHING THEM

153 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:26:21am

re: #150 kirkspencer

re the ‘doesn’t matter how much you exercise’ line, no.

Years ago I was eating 5500 calories a day (plus/minus a few hundred) and did not gain weight. Some of that was junk. It is, by the way, why I’m rather conscious of the intake/outgo formula. Because my first balloon was when I quit doing that job and found it hard to cut back the intake.

But if you’re in near-constant motion for 12-14 hours a day that includes burst of high intensity effort, you’re going to burn a lot of calories.

I maintain that there is a large difference between “sedentary” and “not having an occupation that involves 14-hour days of near-constant physical exertion”. I was speaking in the average case.

154 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:26:35am

re: #130 wheat-dogghazi

Portions have been increasing for many years. In the mid-70s, I worked weekends at Perkins Pancake House. I was appalled at the plates—3 egg omelets, 3 pancakes (or a pile of hash browns), 3 pieces of bacon or sausage. Plus gallons of coffee with sugar and cream. Most people ate it all, but a good deal was thrown into the garbage, too.

These days, I have a 2 egg omelet (w/green peppers & mushrooms, about a tbsp of ea), topped w/salsa and a piece of whole grain toast for breakfast and it fills me up quite nicely. Or oatmeal or whole grain cereal of some sort w/no toast. I esp like steel cut oatmeal w/raisins and walnuts, sweetened w/a little Splenda. That offers enough variety for me without a lot of fuss. For a snack, a piece of fruit. This is what I like to maintain, but it’s the rest of the day that is problematic, esp since I cook for others, too. At least I’ve been able to get my grandson to eat salads…

155 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:27:29am

re: #145 b.d.

We have their General Tso, they have our Colonel Sanders.

In China, most people don’t know his name. He’s just an old guy with a beard, the kind of grandparent logo you see on many products here.

156 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:27:37am

re: #143 b.d.

Why do the Dudebros hate SodaStream?

Israel. The company is Israeli; the factory is in the West Bank.

And that combination means that Israel is profiteering on the backs of Palestinians even though the company has Palestinian workers, pays them same wages as Israelis, and provides them all the same benefits as Israelis working there.

If Sodastream didn’t employ Palestinians, the same people would complain that the Israelis were discriminating against Palestinians and depriving them the opportunity to work and get ahead.

157 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:30:02am

Combined, we’re down almost 70 lbs total here; I’m around 20 and the better half is closing in on 50. She took a healthy eating course offered by a local hospital and it’s been nothing short of amazing.

Calories is the killer. We both started using My Fitness Pal to keep track of calories, as well as food groups. I’ve kicked up my exercise program as well. I’ve plateaued a little bit, but am shooting to be down 40 by summer.

As far as HFCS: the podcast The Skeptic’s Guide to the Universe covered that recently. Upshot was HFCS doesn’t metabolize any differently than sugar. It’s cheaper than sugar, so therefore it’s freaking everywhere.

158 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:30:37am
159 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:31:08am

re: #140 GunstarGreen

With the cheetohs and soda, it wouldn’t matter how much you exercised. Sedentary or not, when you’re doing 2K cals without even touching real food for your ‘real meals’, you’re putting on weight.

As for winter exercise? Not as fun as going outside certainly, but you can do calisthenics just about anywhere that you can fit a human body. Pushups, situps, jumping jacks; it’s how I’ve been getting through the winter.

It’s how I used to get through the winter, too, along with long walks when the streets weren’t slick, but when you’re in your 70s, it becomes a little more complicated. We don’t even have anywhere to walk safely around here in the “country”. : )

160 freetoken  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:32:02am

I take it my daily consumption of two bags of Ghirardelli mint dark chocolate squares is bad for me?

161 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:32:26am

re: #156 lawhawk

Israel. The company is Israeli; the factory is in the West Bank.

And that combination means that Israel is profiteering on the backs of Palestinians even though the company has Palestinian workers, pays them same wages as Israelis, and provides them all the same benefits as Israelis working there.

If Sodastream didn’t employ Palestinians, the same people would complain that the Israelis were discriminating against Palestinians and depriving them the opportunity to work and get ahead.

I was actuality thinking about getting one of those things. Now, I have no idea what to do.

If I don’t buy it, I hate Israel and/or Palestinians. If I do buy it, I hate Isreal and/or Palestinians.

162 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:34:00am

re: #161 Mattand

I was actuality thinking about getting one of those things. Now, I have no idea what to do.

If I don’t buy it, I hate Israel and/or Palestinians. If I do buy it, I hate Isreal and/or Palestinians.

And if you drink Coke products, you’re not a True American™.

163 iossarian  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:35:01am

re: #161 Mattand

I was actuality thinking about getting one of those things. Now, I have no idea what to do.

If I don’t buy it, I hate Israel and/or Palestinians. If I do buy it, I hate Isreal and/or Palestinians.

Fortunately I don’t drink soda so I’m not affected by this moral quandary.

164 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:35:04am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi

And if you drink Coke products, you’re not a True AmericanTM.

AND IF YOU DRINK PEPSI PRODUCTS, YOU SUPPORT TEH GHEYS!11!

165 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:35:23am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi

And if you drink Coke products, you’re not a True AmericanTM.

Well, since you’re in China anyway…

: )

166 iossarian  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:36:08am

Coke have some pretty scuzzy corporate strategy moments, but I must give them credit for an impressive bout of trolling last night.

167 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:36:29am

re: #159 Justanotherhuman

It’s how I used to get through the winter, too, along with long walks when the streets weren’t slick, but when you’re in your 70s, it becomes a little more complicated. We don’t even have anywhere to walk safely around here in the “country”. : )

At least your making the effort to exercise. My dad is your age. He stopped even taking walks and let his diabetes get the better of him. He’s now having trouble negotiating simple stairs that just a few years ago he handled easily.

It’s frustrating because my next door neighbor is pushing 90, with a triple bypass under his belt. This guy climbs on a ladder to clean his gutters, and bikes a few miles a day.

168 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:36:50am

You can buy Sodastream products at the Zionist Mall!

169 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:37:16am

True Conservative Cola!


We should make some and drive those America hating cola makers out of buisness!!

170 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:37:45am

Snow in Philly and I am home. My place of work could have said that over the phone earlier today but no they have to make us come in and then they decide we can go home if we have the time.

171 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:38:26am

re: #165 Justanotherhuman

Well, since you’re in China anyway…

: )

Both Coke and Pepsi are sold here, of course. There’s a homegrown brand called FutureCola, which is OK, and cheaper than the international brands.

I don’t drink soft drinks nearly as much as I used to. Still buy bottled sweet tea, though, on occasion.

172 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:39:09am

re: #163 iossarian

Fortunately I don’t drink soda so I’m not affected by this moral quandary.

Yeah, I should just go water 24/7. When you think about it, soda really is about as unnecessary a beverage as you can get.

173 b.d.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:39:26am

I wonder what Sarah will fill her Big Gulp cup up with now?

174 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:40:15am

re: #159 Justanotherhuman

It’s how I used to get through the winter, too, along with long walks when the streets weren’t slick, but when you’re in your 70s, it becomes a little more complicated. We don’t even have anywhere to walk safely around here in the “country”. : )

Because of arthritis, I can’t walk for exercise like I used to. But I do have a membership at the JCC and I go swimming once a week.

Yeah I know I know I should be going swimming more than once a week, but that’s not happening. And once a week is still better than 0 times.

Also I like having separate swimming times for men and women. When there are men in the pool they take up all the lap lanes and crowd out the women.

175 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:40:25am

re: #167 Mattand

At least your making the effort to exercise. My dad is your age. He stopped even taking walks and let his diabetes get the better of him. He’s now having trouble negotiating simple stairs that just a few years ago he handled easily.

It’s frustrating because my next door neighbor is pushing 90, with a triple bypass under his belt. This guy climbs on a ladder to clean his gutters, and bikes a few miles a day.

Keep moving. That’s the advice they give older folks now. Once they start sitting around watching TV or whatever, they almost inviting the Grim Reaper to come by for a visit.

176 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:40:44am

re: #170 PhillyPretzel

Snow in Philly and I am home. My place of work could have said that over the phone earlier today but no they have to make us come in and then they decide we can go home if we have the time.

My source in Center City says the same thing. Apparently, no one was in the offices, but the Market Frankford El was in full Tokyo Subway mode.

177 iossarian  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:41:20am

re: #172 Mattand

Yeah, I should just go water 24/7. When you think about it, soda really is about as unnecessary a beverage as you can get.

It’s just too sweet for me now. I used to drink a fair amount of it when I was a kid, though only when eating out - we didn’t have it at home. Maybe that’s why.

I’ve just replaced it with beer/wine in restaurants now. Not exactly healthier, but again it’s the volume and regularity that really get you, rather than the thing itself.

178 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:41:37am

Youtube Video

179 iossarian  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:41:53am

re: #174 Pie-onist Overlord

Also I like having separate swimming times for men and women. When there are men in the pool they take up all the lap lanes and crowd out the women.

Zionist sharia?

180 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:42:08am

HURR HURR!!!!1!!!!

181 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:42:22am

re: #153 GunstarGreen

I maintain that there is a large difference between “sedentary” and “not having an occupation that involves 14-hour days of near-constant physical exertion”. I was speaking in the average case.

Point, but I’ll note that this is today’s average case.

I maintain that one of the problems is that up till the 1950s (give or take a decade) that sort of workday was ‘average’.

There are jobs today that are still constant effort but they’re becoming fewer and fewer. Or more accurately they’re getting more and more assistance that’s reducing the amount of labor required. It’s a slow-motion version of the problem I had: Used to be I (we) burned 5500-6000 calories and it didn’t matter what crap it was we just needed the calories. Then we quit needing as much, but that’s how much our eyes and stomachs were used to so we didn’t stop - and it built, gram by gram by kilogram, the bellies and butts and all the rest of the bloated flab so many of us carry.

But yeah, it’s not average any more.

182 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:43:22am

re: #180 Pie-onist Overlord

Massive deflection is massive.

183 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:43:31am

re: #175 wheat-dogghazi

Keep moving. That’s the advice they give older folks now. Once they start sitting around watching TV or whatever, they almost inviting the Grim Reaper to come by for a visit.

heh - a moving target is hard to hit and even the Grim Reaper has to aim.

184 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:44:57am

Unhappiness all over this photo.


re: #173 b.d.

I wonder what Sarah will fill her Big Gulp cup up with now?

Haha, who really gives a flying fuck what that idiot does anymore? She is soooo finished.

185 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:46:04am

re: #180 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!1!!!!

[Embedded content]

WTF?

The top two photos show executions and people excited about them. You know, just like America.

I’m fairly sure the bottom two are being taken way out of context to imply pedophillia.

186 iossarian  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:46:35am

re: #182 Varek Raith

Massive deflection is massive.

AKA the “it’s OK for me to be a homophobe because these other people are homophobes, and I hate them” argument.

I would try to write that down in predicate logic but the pencil would probably catch on fire.

187 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:46:41am

re: #184 Justanotherhuman


Haha, who really gives a flying fuck what that idiot does anymore? She is soooo finished.

I hope you are right. Sadly, she and her offspring Bristol keep popping up to add their 2 cents to the national discourse.

188 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:46:54am

Granny loves to post photos of aborted fetuses.

189 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:47:38am

re: #188 Pie-onist Overlord

Charming lady, I’m sure.

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:47:39am

re: #179 iossarian

Zionist sharia?

Totally. Heh.

191 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:48:38am

re: #176 Mattand

My source in Center City says the same thing. Apparently, no one was in the offices, but the Market Frankford El was in full Tokyo Subway mode.

Haha, that reminded me of an upstairs apt I looked at in Fishtown in the early 70s. It was only yards from the El. I passed.

192 iossarian  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:50:21am

re: #191 Justanotherhuman

Haha, that reminded me of an upstairs apt I looked at in Fishtown in the early 70s. It was only yards from the El. I passed.

Youtube Video

193 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:51:45am

HURR HURR!!!1!!!!!!

194 iossarian  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:52:39am

Dammit. Ackroyd looks so young in that clip. Oh well, time to get some work done.

195 Teukka  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:56:07am

Derp from this side of the pond:

Moderate politician warns health care workers to vote on Löfvén*
(Original Swedish Article)

So this conservative county politician decides to warn health care employees under the age of 26 against voting left. On official county letterhead.

YES. REALLY.

I kinda wonder when they will claim Löfvén is the Antichrist or something, I mean they have imported most of the other RWNJ talking points from the US.
__
*: The Conservative party is named “Moderates” here in Sweden (sic(!))

196 jaunte  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:00:38am

re: #193 Pie-onist Overlord

Snopes:

“…Although the photographs and video footage did originate with the July 2009 mass wedding event, and they do show pre-pubescent girls dressed in clothing resembling bridal garb holding hands with older men, the young girls in these pictures were not being married off to adult males; they were relatives of the brides and grooms (typically nieces and cousins ranging in age from three to eight years old) who were merely ancillary participants in the ceremony, performing a function similar to that of flower girls in western-style weddings. Even though news accounts document that they were undeniably present, the older women who did get married that day weren’t apparent in the recorded images because, unlike the style of weddings most westerners are accustomed to, brides don’t take center stage at this type of event:

The 450 brides shared none of the glamour, taking seats among the audience of around 1,000 party guests: most couples had already taken part in religious ceremonies elsewhere, with more marriages planned for the next few days.

The brides and grooms were separated during the wedding party since observant Muslims are not supposed to mix in public.

snopes.com

197 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:02:07am

re: #196 jaunte

Snopes:

snopes.com

HURR HURR TEH SNOAPS IS TEH LIBRUL SOROS!!11!!!1!!!

198 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:03:18am

Men & women also celebrate separately at Orthodox Jewish weddings, you don’t see too many wingnuts HURR HURR!!!1!!! about that, although you do see Dudebro whining.

199 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:03:38am

re: #195 Teukka

Espressen seems to be modeled on the UK’s tabloids, like the Mail.

200 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:05:19am

re: #180 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s a rather vile stalker you have.

201 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:05:39am

re: #173 b.d.

I wonder what Sarah will fill her Big Gulp cup up with now?

Pepsi. 7-11 soda machines have both Coke and Pepsi products.

202 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:06:21am

re: #194 iossarian

Dammit. Ackroyd looks so young in that clip. Oh well, time to get some work done.

And Fishtown has been gentrified somewhat as well. Here’s a history of Fishtown and Kensington (where I lived in a rowhouse). Seems like a hundred years ago.

aoh51fishtown.com

203 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:07:20am

Any questions?
1. Did you know Walmart has 1.2 million employees, not 2 million?
2. Did you know that 8.85 is an average, so 50% make MOAR than 8.85?
3. Who is demanding $15/hr raise for EVERYONE?
4. Did you know most miminum wage Walmart employees do not work 8-hr day?
5. Where did you learn math?
HURR HURRRRR!!!!!!

204 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:08:13am

Sunday was pretty lousy: Philip Seymour Hoffman passes, mostly a boring Super Bowl, lame Super Bowl commercials, Anthony Kiedis has a porn ‘stache, and Bill O’Racist acted like a right-wing troll on the national television.

205 jaunte  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:08:43am

re: #200 Internet Tough Guy

It’s pretty nutty to post a Benghazi ribbon on your Twitter page while at the same time calling for a holy war.

206 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:10:15am

OF COURSE wingnut would love “Farmer.” THAT’S A FREAKING MONSANTO AD!!!!!!

207 Skip Intro  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:10:37am

re: #203 Pie-onist Overlord

Forbes disagrees with the number of employees.

“Why Do 1.4 Million Americans Work At Walmart, With Many More Trying To?”

forbes.com

So Loosertarian Comic is wrong from the very start.

208 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:13:14am

re: #176 Mattand

My source in Center City says the same thing. Apparently, no one was in the offices, but the Market Frankford El was in full Tokyo Subway mode.

It switched over from rain to snow in Center City right around 7:30 am or so.

A bunch of people at work here made it in since they were already enroute. Not sure if everyone will ride things out until late afternoon or not. I think it depends on when the storm is expected to let up, how complicated peoples’ commutes are, etc. etc.

My usual Monday cribbage session has already been canceled.

209 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:17:59am

re: #207 Skip Intro

Forbes disagrees with the number of employees.

“Why Do 1.4 Million Americans Work At Walmart, With Many More Trying To?”

forbes.com

So Loosertarian Comic is wrong from the very start.

I looked into those figures myself a while ago. The 2 million figure comes from a less than reliable source (and is out of date), while Forbes and another business source put the number of wage earners at 1.2 to 1.4 million. Hourly workers include drivers and warehouse workers, who are likely paid more than the retail floor workers.

210 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:21:56am

re: #205 jaunte

It’s pretty nutty to post a Benghazi ribbon on your Twitter page while at the same time calling for a holy war.

Yes it is, but it makes sense from that loon’s point of view. He/she wants a holy war against Islam, thinking that will destroy “the hostile other” and unify western nations under a Christian banner.

‘Nutty’ is s good word for it indeed.

211 Skip Intro  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:23:18am

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi

Tweets like this have to have every single claim checked for accuracy. Of course, they won’t be, and another bogus claim becomes a true fact to be repeated endlessly in the wingnutosphere.

Ten bucks says it makes the Limbaugh show this week.

212 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:23:31am

re: #182 Varek Raith

Massive deflection is massive.

Because they’ve got nothing as a proper response.

“We want to leave people the hell alone!”

“What about all of these people (non-WASPs) that you don’t actually leave alone at all?”

“LOOK, SQUIRREL!”

I kinda wish that thread hadn’t gotten derailed into attacking/defending Islam, and had instead stayed on-target. “No, we’re not talking about Islam. You said you want to leave people alone, I provided several groups of people that you most certainly do NOT leave the hell alone, what is your response?”

213 Teukka  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:25:19am

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi

Espressen seems to be modeled on the UK’s tabloids, like the Mail.

Yeah, they are a tabloid. Tho they were the last to pick up on the story, they practically had to once that derp bomb detonated in several other news media (State TV, Metro, Aftonbladet and other major league news media).

Just out of morbid curiosity, what’d happen with a US politician if (s)he pulled a stunt like that?

214 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:26:32am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

Here in the Czech Republic, RC Cola is fairly popular. Of course, the Czechs have their own soft drink, Kofola.

en.wikipedia.org

It tastes different from either Coke, Pepsi, or RC Cola; it’s an acquired taste, but it’s actually quite good.

Late to the game but on the increasingly rare occasion I want a soda, I buy a mexican coke & fanta & mix them for Spezi which I learned to love as a soldier stationed in Germany in the early 80’s.

215 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:27:26am

re: #89 Pie-onist Overlord

“Kosher for Passover” Coca Cola is made with cane sugar. When the kosher grocery receives its cases of Coke for the holiday, there are always a bunch of people standing in line. Who knew so many Jews honored the holy Passover!

What, they’re not even Jewish?

Mexican coke is cane sugar as well and is all I buy anymore.

216 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:28:44am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haz about five inches of snow here:

Looks pretty…

Beautiful image. That’s the kind I like :)

217 Decatur Deb  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:28:47am

re: #213 Teukka

Yeah, they are a tabloid. Tho they were the last to pick up on the story, they practically had to once that derp bomb detonated in several other news media (State TV, Metro, Aftonbladet and other major league news media).

Just out of morbid curiosity, what’d happen with a US politician if (s)he pulled a stunt like that?

Depends on how carefully they lawyered the statement before release. An American analogue would be the borderline-illegal threats put out by companies in an anti-unionization struggle.,

218 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:30:32am

re: #215 William Barnett-Lewis

Mexican coke is cane sugar as well and is all I buy anymore.

FYI. “American” Coke is offering a limited supply of its product made with cane sugar. I saw it a few months back in the grocery store.

219 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:30:35am

re: #203 Pie-onist Overlord

Any questions?
1. Did you know Walmart has 1.2 million employees, not 2 million?
2. Did you know that 8.85 is an average, so 50% make MOAR than 8.85?
3. Who is demanding $15/hr raise for EVERYONE?
4. Did you know most miminum wage Walmart employees do not work 8-hr day?
5. Where did you learn math?
HURR HURRRRR!!!!!!

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Actually, the 8.85 is probably mean not median, which could make this a ‘Bill Gates in the bar’ situation.

In case you don’t know it: 9 people making minimum wage are in the bar when Bill Gates walks in. The average income of everyone in the bar is now several million a year.

220 freetoken  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:31:24am

The BBC declares the latest and greatest from science:

New research suggests humans have four basic emotions

Of course, we already knew that; humans do four emotions:

Lust
Cute-Kitteh
Chocolate
OUTRAGE!!

221 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:32:17am

re: #203 Pie-onist Overlord

“Libertarian Comic:” Any questions?

[Embedded content]

Yes, I have a question; two really. Did you get this horseshit from Alice Walton’s world-class breeding facility and is collecting it part of your job there?
(Btw, A. Walton lives just a few miles from me, in Parker County, which is one reason I am extra-cautious on the roads around here.)

222 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:33:09am

The garbage crew just came down my street. They stopped to pick up my garbage, and when the truck went to go off down the street, it just sat there and spun wheels. The driver had to back up and floor it to get enough traction to continue down the street.

This does not bode well for the afternoon rush, especially since they’ve upped the possible snowfall totals to between 5 and 8 inches on my part of LI.

Happy Monday!
//

223 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:35:32am

re: #222 makeitstop

Plows came through here in Northern NJ. About 3+ inches so far. Not too bad, but haven’t been out yet - to drive or shovel. Just enjoying the serene beauty.

And this is making for a tough time for folks flying out after the Super Bowl. That’s for sure.

224 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:35:46am

re: #219 kirkspencer

Actually, the 8.85 is probably mean not median, which could make this a ‘Bill Gates in the bar’ situation.

In case you don’t know it: 9 people making minimum wage are in the bar when Bill Gates walks in. The average income of everyone in the bar is now several million a year.

That’s why Ethical Oil, a bullshit propaganda think tank in Canada, answers with a claim of a median donation of $25 dollars from the common man when questioned about oil company donations. If they gave the mean it would be more representative of the reality most of their money is unethical oil money.

225 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:36:16am

re: #223 lawhawk

Plows came through here in Northern NJ. About 3+ inches so far. Not too bad, but haven’t been out yet - to drive or shovel. Just enjoying the serene beauty.

And this is making for a tough time for folks flying out after the Super Bowl. That’s for sure.

HAARP being used to increase revenue in liberal cities.
////

226 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:37:13am

Alice Walton, billionaire road menace:

Walton has been involved in at least three automobile accidents. During a 1983 Thanksgiving family reunion near Acapulco, Mexico, Walton lost control of a rented Jeep and plunged into a ravine, shattering her leg. She was airlifted out of Mexico and would undergo more than two dozen surgeries and is said to suffer lingering pain from her injuries. In an April 1989 incident, she struck and killed 50-year-old Oleta Hardin, who had stepped into a road. No charges were filed. In a 1998 incident, she is reported to have hit a gas meter while driving under the influence. She paid a $925 fine and served no jail time.

On October 7, 2011, her 62nd birthday, she was again arrested for driving while intoxicated in Weatherford, Texas, after a dinner with friends in Fort Worth. Walton’s attorney released a statement acknowledging the incident and expressing regret. The charges were dropped by Texas prosecutors in September 2013 without formal charges being filed (emphasis added)

Way to go, prosecutors. I wonder how many migrants and local working stiffs get similar consideration?

227 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:38:58am

re: #220 freetoken

The BBC declares the latest and greatest from science:

New research suggests humans have four basic emotions

Of course, we already knew that; humans do four emotions:

Lust
Cute-Kitteh
Chocolate
OUTRAGE!!

I’d order it so:
Chocolate
Cute-Kitteh
Lust
Chocolate
Lust-with-chocolate
Outrage - only on a bad day.

228 jaunte  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:40:21am

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel

Walton’s attorney released a statement acknowledging the incident and expressing regret.

She was most sincerely sorry for being stopped.

229 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:40:40am

re: #227 b_sharp

I’d order it so:
Chocolate
Cute-Kitteh
Lust
Chocolate
Lust-with-chocolate
Outrage - only on a bad day.

And the confusing Kitten-covered-in-chocolate

230 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:41:43am

re: #229 Feline Fearless Leader

And the confusing Kitten-covered-in-chocolate

Kittehs hate getting bathed so I don’t like that one much.

231 Stanley Sea  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:42:34am
232 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:43:33am

re: #223 lawhawk

Plows came through here in Northern NJ. About 3+ inches so far. Not too bad, but haven’t been out yet - to drive or shovel. Just enjoying the serene beauty.

And this is making for a tough time for folks flying out after the Super Bowl. That’s for sure.

I’ve been outside a couple of times this morning. It’s quiet as a church out there. I may put on the boots and take a walk around the neighborhood with my camera later.

233 freetoken  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:44:31am

Imagine my surprise:

Rep. Paul Broun Would Back Obama Impeachment

Rep. Paul Broun, a GOP candidate for U.S. Senate in Georgia, indicated during a tea party-sponsored candidate forum this weekend that he would support the impeachment of President Obama.

Candidates at the Gilmer County GOP forum, including Broun, were asked by a questioner: 𠇌linton was impeached for perjury. Obama has perjured himself on multiple occasions. Would you support impeachment if presented for a vote?”

[…]

Quite the moderator the GOP has there.

Yes, there is video of this.

234 freetoken  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:46:10am

The DailyCaller reported that last night, and as expected the comments are full of their desired ugliness.

235 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:47:39am

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel

Alice Walton, billionaire road menace:

Way to go, prosecutors. I wonder how many migrants and local working stiffs get similar consideration?

None. Trial lawyers are predatory, tending to focus on weaker prey. Going after a billionaire means a much-longer period pre-trial period, as her lawyers throw up every delaying tactic they can think of, proofing the state’s evidence to stand up to scrutiny by defense experts, and then a longer, more difficult trial against top-flight defense lawyers. And all for a victory that won’t count much more in the prosecutors stats than nailing an average joe for the same crime.

236 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:52:53am

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

You’ve described the situation, then painted malice on top unnecessarily.

The only attorneys more over-worked than public defenders are public prosecutors. It’s not predation that drives the issue, it’s the workload. Because if they pursue one of the hard cases as avidly as we might desire they’ll leave hundreds on the floor. And that means hundreds who would run into ‘speedy trial’ issues - another injustice we already suffer.

237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:53:00am

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

Finland has a schedule of fines that are based on a percentage of total salary. When the head of Nokia got busted for speeding, he got a ticket totalling around $140,000.

That would make prosecutors more interested in pursuing a case.

238 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:54:25am

Asshole pulls rotten prank and almost gets shot for having done so:

RomanAtwood’s videos get considerable views and many consider a lot of them to be really, really, funny. While a fake drive-by shooting may offer a hardy laugh, the humor is far outweighed by the potential danger associated with making people believe you are shooting at them with live firearms, as evidenced by the video posted to YouTube.

In the video, RomanAtwood installed “very loud speakers” in his truck “with gun SFX.” As he neared his victims he’d play the sound file, producing a convincingly realistic sound of gunfire.

The first couple of runs went smoothly enough, but on the last scene somebody pulled out a very real gun and fired off several rounds as RomanAtwood raced away.

This is a good way to get shot.

Youtube Video

239 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:57:05am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

Finland has a schedule of fines that are based on a percentage of total salary. When the head of Nokia got busted for speeding, he got a ticket totalling around $140,000.

That would make prosecutors more interested in pursuing a case.

That wouldn’t pass in most places here. and especially not in Texas. It would fall amid cries of “Class Warfare!” and “Marxism!”.

240 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:59:16am

re: #238 Dark_Falcon

I hope he gets arrested. Civilians are not allowed to have blue flashing lights on /in their vehicles. Idiot

241 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:02:34am

WTFITS
I just can’t even…

242 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:03:13am

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel

I would have sued the pants off her. She was speeding, and the accident was avoidable if she’d been paying attention instead of answering her fucking car phone.

“Years later, according to Bob Ortega in his book In Sam We Trust (The Untold Story of Sam Walton), Alice had been traveling from her family farm in Bentonville to work. And that Oleta Hardin’s widower, Harold Hardin, was never offered monetary compensation for his wife’s death, other than what Alice had through her auto insurance company — although the Walton’s lawyers did offer poor Harold $2,500 for Oleta’s funeral expenses.”

bud-meyers.blogspot.com

243 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:06:08am
244 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:11:07am

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

None. Trial lawyers are predatory, tending to focus on weaker prey. Going after a billionaire means a much-longer period pre-trial period, as her lawyers throw up every delaying tactic they can think of, proofing the state’s evidence to stand up to scrutiny by defense experts, and then a longer, more difficult trial against top-flight defense lawyers. And all for a victory that won’t count much more in the prosecutors stats than nailing an average joe for the same crime.

And if you can’t get justice in criminal court, you go after their money.

This is really why some want “tort reform”—it’s a legal way of the rich protecting themselves that the poor don’t have.

245 GunstarGreen  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:12:17am

re: #241 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS
I just can’t even…

[Embedded content]

In any legislation regarding LGBT people and/or their rights, use this simple test to determine if you’re about to do something stupid:

Replace “gay” with “black”.

Do you now look like an enormous and obvious racist? If so, you’re about to do some seriously stupid shit. Don’t do it.

246 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:13:37am

*FACEPALLM*

247 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:14:47am

re: #241 Pie-onist Overlord

Troubled Hearts can no longer be troubled at prospect of teh gay slavery. //

248 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:15:25am

re: #242 Justanotherhuman

I would have sued the pants off her. She was speeding, and the accident was avoidable if she’d been paying attention instead of answering her fucking car phone.

“Years later, according to Bob Ortega in his book In Sam We Trust (The Untold Story of Sam Walton), Alice had been traveling from her family farm in Bentonville to work. And that Oleta Hardin’s widower, Harold Hardin, was never offered monetary compensation for his wife’s death, other than what Alice had through her auto insurance company — although the Walton’s lawyers did offer poor Harold $2,500 for Oleta’s funeral expenses.”

bud-meyers.blogspot.com

Suing people with that much money is also very hard, and Harold Hardin might well have decided that it wasn’t worth trying.

249 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:17:33am

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Suing people with that much money is also very hard, and Harold Hardin might well have decided that it wasn’t worth trying.

Walton could have given him some piddling little amount and then bragged forever LOOK AT HOW GENEROUS & COMPASSIONATE WE ARE!!!1!!!!!!

250 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:22:22am

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Suing people with that much money is also very hard, and Harold Hardin might well have decided that it wasn’t worth trying.

Oh, please. I’ve worked in torts. I know what it takes. Time and evidence gathering. And once the husband endorsed that insurance check, it was game over—except, a good lawyer could have argued her way out of that one.

After all, civil law is based on a “preponderance of the evidence”, not a “reasonable doubt”.

251 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:27:10am
252 Ian G.  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:27:58am

re: #241 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS
I just can’t even…

[Embedded content]

Didn’t you know that granting gays equal rights under the law is the same as re-creating Dachau, only with gays as the SS officers and Christians as the prisoners?

253 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:29:14am
254 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:32:55am

WTFITS I just can’t even…
Not embedding.

255 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:34:40am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

This was the final design chosen. No mention of the religious affiliations.

Of particular note, stamps issued at that time generally required that the person being honored (other than a President) be deceased for at least 10 years.

256 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:37:58am

re: #246 Pie-onist Overlord

*FACEPALLM*

[Embedded content]

So if a muslim coach requires his team to kneel in prayer with him you’re ok with that?

257 Mattand  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:48:23am

re: #191 Justanotherhuman

Haha, that reminded me of an upstairs apt I looked at in Fishtown in the early 70s. It was only yards from the El. I passed.

Fishtown is Hipster Central now.

258 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 10:15:23am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

2 Protestant ministers, a Roman Catholic priest & a Reform rabbi. God welcome them all.

259 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 11:09:03am

re: #256 kirkspencer

So if a muslim coach requires his team to kneel in prayer with him you’re ok with that?

Or the kids that don’t believe can walk out for the duration of the prayer?

260 klys  Mon, Feb 3, 2014 11:12:47am

re: #259 Eventual Carrion

Or the kids that don’t believe can walk out for the duration of the prayer?

To be noted by the coach and their peers, essentially singling themselves out?

If it were the other way around and the coach were a Muslim leading the kids in prayer, the Christian families would be suing so fast your head would spin. But if it’s a Christian prayer, well, the non-believers can just excuse themselves. No. Sorry. Doesn’t work that way. Either any type of prayer being led by the coach is acceptable and doesn’t infringe on the rights of the students or having a figure of authority in what is supposed to be a secular setting lead a prayer infringes on the students’ freedom of religion.


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