Obama Sending White House Aides to Michael Brown’s Funeral, Jim Hoft Says “All Black Delegation”

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The President is sending three White House officials to the funeral service of Michael Brown in St. Louis on Monday:

Leading the group for Monday’s service will be the chairman of the My Brother’s Keeper Task Force, Broderick Johnson. My Brother’s Keeper is an Obama initiative that aims to empower young minorities. Johnson is also the secretary for the Cabinet.

Also attending will be the deputy director of the White House Office of Public Engagement, Marlon Marshall, and an adviser for the office, Heather Foster.

And here’s how deranged, openly racist right wing blogger Jim Hoft sees it:

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324 comments
1 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 23, 2014 9:32:14pm

Haters gotta hate, liars gotta lie, Hoft is a twofer. What will he think of pull out of his ass next?

2 Floral Giraffe  Aug 23, 2014 9:33:08pm

I’m pretty sick at my stomach, over the comments on this I just read at a right wing site.
I think it’s great that the President is sending representatives.

3 b.d.  Aug 23, 2014 9:37:52pm

OMG and wherever President Obama goes the entire delegation is headed by a black man. INPEACH!

4 BeachDem  Aug 23, 2014 9:42:16pm

These people are seriously deranged.

5 b.d.  Aug 23, 2014 9:44:17pm

OMG will they be sitting the White House delegation with the normal white folks or will they have their own section?

6 ausador  Aug 23, 2014 9:46:57pm

Because nothing conveys your empathy and understanding to the family of a slain black youth like sending a bunch of white political staffers in $2000 suits, right Jim?

There is already going to be plenty of white faces there Jim don’t worry, unfortunately a lot of them will probably be dressed in riot gear. :(

7 Shazam  Aug 23, 2014 9:47:05pm

Bush/McCain/Romney Sending White House Aides to Michael Brown’s Funeral, Jim Hoft Says “See, Republicans aren’t racist!”

8 Lidane  Aug 23, 2014 9:50:31pm
Right wing racism has never been clearer or more obvious than it is tonight.

I disagree. It’s been clear and obvious for decades, went into overdrive in 2008, and got roided up to ZOMG ELEVENTY HERP DERP in 2012.

It took the election and re-election of a black man as POTUS to pull the curtain back on the racism that has been endemic on the right. It took the murder of a young black man by a white cop to make it abundantly clear that we haven’t learned shit since Jim Crow.

9 Kragar  Aug 23, 2014 9:51:27pm

But remember folks, you can’t call them racists because 150 years ago Lincoln existed and Democrats were in the KKK

10 jaunte  Aug 23, 2014 9:54:27pm

Some people struggling to stay ignorant.

11 jaunte  Aug 23, 2014 9:56:20pm

Well, not struggling. More like reveling.

12 Kid A  Aug 23, 2014 9:56:51pm

Dear Dim,

Fuck you.

Sincerely,

Me.

13 Gus  Aug 23, 2014 9:59:05pm

re: #10 jaunte

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Some people struggling to stay ignorant.

Sigh.

14 b.d.  Aug 23, 2014 10:01:57pm

Sorry Jim, you kill one black man and they send in 3 more, your world must really suck.

15 Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2014 10:02:01pm

So. Much. Hate.

16 Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2014 10:03:57pm

Nighty. Gonna read something to clear the mind.

17 BeachDem  Aug 23, 2014 10:05:39pm

And the hits just keep on coming:

Autopsy report: Victor White III shot in the chest, not back

The Iberia Parish Coroner’s Office has released only the first page of the autopsy report, which contradicts statements initially made by State Police who said White shot himself in the back while handcuffed in the back of a sheriff’s unit.

According to the autopsy, the bullet entered White’s chest, then perforated his left lung and heart before exiting his armpit area and lacerating his upper arm. The report rules White’s death a suicide.

katc.com

Because of course, whether he was shot in the chest or in the back, while in handcuffs, it was obviously suicide.

18 teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2014 10:11:15pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

So. Much. Hate.

LGF exposes and ridicules this kind of stuff. It’s weird to recount it but even in the mid 2000s LGF exposed and ridiculed stupid and hateful ideologies. The “early” days of LGF (with its emphasis on Islam and Islamic extremists) was well known for that kind of stuff.

But Charles is better than the haters. He’s renounced his former travelers in re: Islam and has been reporting honestly about *hate* stuff right here in the United States.

In these times, LGF has been keeping me sane. Just sayin’.

19 BeachDem  Aug 23, 2014 10:18:26pm

Not to worry—it’s a hat trick on the yakfests tomorrow—John McCain on Fox, Lindsey Graham on CNN and Kelly Ayotte on CBS (along with, for whatever reason, wingnut actor Gary Sanise)

All the more reason to sleep in.

20 Gus  Aug 23, 2014 10:19:00pm

Jurisprudence

21 teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2014 10:20:39pm

re: #20 Gus

Jurisprudence

Rule of Law

22 BeachDem  Aug 23, 2014 10:21:39pm

re: #20 Gus

Jurisprudence

Patience and Prudence

Youtube Video

23 Gus  Aug 23, 2014 10:22:36pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Rule of Law

Analyze.

24 teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2014 10:23:47pm

Dead Kennedys - I Fought The Law

Youtube Video

25 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 23, 2014 10:25:57pm

Fair warning. Watching twitter looks like things may get ugly again in Ferguson.

26 BeachDem  Aug 23, 2014 10:27:21pm

The Tea Party of Louisiana has declared Sen. David Vitter a “turncoat of liberty” because of his support for Common Core, warning yesterday that the education standards will turn kids gay. Vitter came out in favor of Common Core while Gov. Bobby Jindal, who once supported Common Core, is now trying — so far unsuccessfully— to repeal the standards. Angry with Vitter’s remarks, the Tea Party group responed by linking to an article titled “Common Core Turns First Wave Of Students Gay,” apparently unaware that it was from the parody website Broken World News….

The Times-Picayune notes that Broken World News lists on its About page: “If you believe any of the shit you read here you are a freaking moron.”

rightwingwatch.org

Sorta says it all, doesn’t it?

27 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 23, 2014 10:35:50pm

Hearing now that cops are targeting out of towners some say specifically RCP asshats.

28 Tigger2005  Aug 23, 2014 10:37:40pm

re: #10 jaunte

I’d like to let Irish Mike and those like him in on a little secret…to the degree that they pass liberals off, it’s not because they’re right, it’s because they’re willfully stupid, ignorant, immature, sociopathic and gratuitously destructive assholes.

29 Chez Ko Pe  Aug 23, 2014 10:47:36pm

Dear Irish Mike: A destructive puppy can piss off liberals. Congratulations, you’re competing with an unhousebroken pet. Maybe you’ll win! Keep reaching for the stars!

30 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 23, 2014 10:48:10pm

Cops have the entire area where protesters are surrounded. Every alley covered.

31 ausador  Aug 23, 2014 10:49:29pm

Just tried this because I found the “8 results” hard to believe:
I got 7010 results for “white teen killed by police”
I got ‘about 542,000 results’ for “black teen killed by police”

:(

32 Jenner7  Aug 23, 2014 10:51:40pm

re: #30 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Do you know what set all this off??

33 ausador  Aug 23, 2014 10:52:46pm
34 ausador  Aug 23, 2014 10:53:56pm
35 Floral Giraffe  Aug 23, 2014 11:01:46pm

This is the general attitude I’m seeing on the Right…

But some two bit thug who robs a store and trys to kill a cop becomes a hero.

Just revolting. Next the KKK will be out in public! Oh, wait! They are.

36 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 23, 2014 11:03:09pm

re: #32 Jenner7

No idea. But so far the cops seem to just be watching and going after RCP types. Not even making people “keep moving”. May just be an overabundance of caution.

37 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 23, 2014 11:03:51pm

re: #34 ausador

What. The. Fuck?

38 ausador  Aug 23, 2014 11:05:29pm

re: #32 Jenner7

Do you know what set all this off??

Possibly has something to do with this…

39 Jenner7  Aug 23, 2014 11:07:05pm

re: #38 ausador

Yeah, cause hitting the cops is the answer. Idiots.

40 teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2014 11:07:28pm
41 BeachDem  Aug 23, 2014 11:09:01pm

re: #33 ausador

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Why do they have to be Wilson’s voice? Does he have laryngitis or something? //

42 ausador  Aug 23, 2014 11:16:06pm

re: #41 BeachDem

Why do they have to be Wilson’s voice? Does he have laryngitis or something? //

As if they wouldn’t carry him live on every network if he gave a public statement?

Aug. 23, 2014 Greg Messmer, who first gave his name as Darren Wilson, and other supporters of Wilson line the street outside Barney’s Sports Bar in St. Louis. Messmer said was supporting Wilson because the media “hasn’t given him his voice.”

43 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 23, 2014 11:16:28pm
Right wing racism has never been clearer or more obvious than it is tonight.

Don’t worry; it will become more clear and more obvious in the days to come.

44 Ryan King  Aug 23, 2014 11:16:41pm

re: #20 Gus

Jurisprudence

Derpisprudence.

45 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 23, 2014 11:17:45pm

Feh. Idiots from RCP with their commitment to stupid violence and fake revolution are nothing but tools of the capitalist 1% class and do nothing to actually help the proletariat.

46 Flavia  Aug 23, 2014 11:18:53pm

Thanks for posting Hoft’s tweet. Here’s what I posted back at him:

“What bothers you more, black government officials, or a recognition that Michael Brown deserves respect?”

47 ausador  Aug 23, 2014 11:25:13pm

re: #44 Ryan King

Derpisprudence.

Like this?

Rose • an hour ago

That is CO-CONSPIRACY for the CRIMES as far as TECHNICAL DEFINITIONS of the law, go - AIDING AND ABETTING.
Shame and Humiliation should be on them all their days!

Commenter at gatewaypundit complaining that the “Michael Brown Fund” is on gofundme’s front page while the “Support Darrel Wilson Fund” isn’t.

48 Ryan King  Aug 23, 2014 11:28:11pm

I was trying to understand what you’re saying but intermittent CAPS BLAST is giving a strong Tourrette’s vibe bruh.

49 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2014 11:32:26pm

Its pretty sad that anyone gives two shits what color people Obama sends to the funeral.

Have we really degenerated into this?

50 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 23, 2014 11:34:08pm

Sounds like all is quiet now. Police may have gone after RCP agitators but no gas etc.

51 Floral Giraffe  Aug 23, 2014 11:46:04pm

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

No, apparently “we” have been like this all along. It’s just now that the rock has been turned over & we’re seeing what is under the surface.

52 CarolJ  Aug 24, 2014 12:06:01am

What I’ve been thinking all weekend about the RCP. They have no idea about the long hard work it would take to actually bring about revolution. That comes in part because the American Revolution is treated like a pretty portrait of Revolutionary leaders and the Founders as demi-gods rather than the Revolution it was. So lots is left out, like Franklin’s diplomacy, or Washington’s successful raising of an army, or the decades of pamphleteering. Not to mention the real stories of blood and toil behind it all. So a lot of folks think a revolution just needs a spontaneous act of violence for change to occur. It’s a problem on the Right too-think MVeigh thinking blowing up a Federal building with children in it would start the revolution he wanted. Or Jim Jones’s Revolutionary Suicide.

They will provoke young black kids to violence, or young angry veterans like McVeigh, or young jihadi kids into doing violent acts against people who are suffering just as badly as they are in the name of a revolution they can’t even articulate the results they hope to gain.

And serve as justification for even more repressive measures and even less freedom for those who remain, making real change harder to attain because of a fearful populace.

53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 12:17:17am

re: #31 ausador

Just tried this because I found the “8 results” hard to believe:
I got 7010 results for “white teen killed by police”
I got ‘about 542,000 results’ for “black teen killed by police”

:(

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It doesn’t work that straightforward. It’s basically an estimate that can be off by several magnitudes sometimes.

You should always try to click through to the last available page.

Doing it in this case shows that there are ~119 results:

Page 12 of about 119 results (0.46 seconds)

Plus the “obvious” duplicates:

In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 120 already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.

For “white” it’s respectively 13.

54 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 12:24:00am

re: #53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

When you enable the display of the duplicates, it displays this on the last av. page:

Page 52 of about 551,000 results (0.34 seconds)

Yet 51x10+3=513 results - those 120 above plus the duplicates. Google is a bit broken.

55 Sophist -- Missouri Goddamn  Aug 24, 2014 12:36:03am

So let me get this straight.

Sending a bunch of white cops in SWAT gear into a black neighborhood = nothing to see here.

Sending three black guys to a funeral = PROVOCATION!!!

That about the size of it?

56 ausador  Aug 24, 2014 1:01:32am

Just spent fifteen minutes looking up the numbers, 23,114 whites murdered by whites and 21,567 blacks murdered by blacks 2005 - 2012. As opposed to the 3939 whites murdered by blacks or the 1726 blacks murdered by whites during the same period.

(tables only contain crimes where race data was available, the actual total number of murders is higher) :(

Asshole tweets that thing out multiple times a day, been sending it to every journalist he can find to complain about the “white genocide.” Sorry, but an average of less than 500 murders per year over 8 years does not qualify as genocide (unless your a white supremacist I guess).

57 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 1:38:47am

Meanwhile at Dailykos the derp is strong:

FWIW, it seems to me, as a religious American Roman Catholic, and a liberal Democrat, to be a great duty to oppose the Israeli GENOCIDE against Gaza.

And that’s exactly what it is. Israel is evil.

Lies written in ink can never disguise facts written in blood.—Lu Xun
Support the BDS Movement—bdsmovement.net

by Timaeus on Sat Aug 23, 2014 at 04:55:56 PM PDT

58 freetoken  Aug 24, 2014 1:46:15am

MP3 Audio

59 goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2014 2:02:42am

re: #56 ausador

Just spent fifteen minutes looking up the numbers, 23,114 whites murdered by whites and 21,567 blacks murdered by blacks 2005 - 2012. As opposed to the 3939 whites murdered by blacks or the 1726 blacks murdered by whites during the same period.

(tables only contain crimes where race data was available, the actual total number of murders is higher) :(

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Asshole tweets that thing out multiple times a day, been sending it to every journalist he can find to complain about the “white genocide.”

The important thing to do is to compare that guys numbers to the distribution of the general population. The US is 77% white and 13.2% Black, for a ratio of 5.83. That would be the baseline expectation of black on white murders to white on black murders if our population was distributed in a perfectly random fashion. You would expect minority offenders to in general to pick victims from the people around them, and a minority individual has far more interactions with members of the majority than vice-versa.

However the ratio given is actually 2.28, because in real life we are still very much a segregated nation geographically. Black people haven’t been warmly welcomed into white society, and interracial marriage only runs at 8.2% nationally. Meaning the vast majority of people still pair off and form racially homogenous families, so the people around them - the people in their families - are more likely to look like themselves, and most victimization is done between people who know and either live with or near each other.

So what the racists don’t get, and don’t want to get, is that the real story here is that the ratio isn’t higher. Because it should be, if this society was truly anything close to a real melting pot with people blending and interacting more as individuals instead of as separate and distinct populations that ratio would be at least double.

60 ausador  Aug 24, 2014 2:11:49am
61 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 2:19:20am

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

You would expect minority offenders to in general to pick victims from the people around them, and a minority individual has far more interactions with members of the majority than vice-versa.

Crucial point.

62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 2:23:09am

re: #60 ausador

Thank you FOX news for teaching us that Obama is a power-mad imperial dictator who also does nothing things that only white people are supposed to do, like golfing

63 KiTA  Aug 24, 2014 2:24:03am

Iceland is erupting.

mbl.is

Holy crap.

64 klys  Aug 24, 2014 2:28:57am

re: #63 KiTA

Iceland is erupting.

mbl.is

Holy crap.

Resource in English.

If the eruption is actually going forward (and there is disagreement amongst scientists at this point), it is so small that it is impossible to tell accurately right now. No flight disruptions are expected at this point.

65 KiTA  Aug 24, 2014 2:30:38am

re: #64 klys

More info here:
dailykos.com

dailykos.com

It is actively erupting right now. Aviation map is red now: vedur.is

66 klys  Aug 24, 2014 2:35:06am

re: #65 KiTA

More info here:
dailykos.com

dailykos.com

It is actively erupting right now. Aviation map is red now: vedur.is

I’ve been following this for a few days at this point.

Here’s some more info:

Geophysicist Magnús Tumi Guðmundsson stated in an interview on RÚV that the eruption scare from earlier today was probably a false alarm. It’s unlikely that an eruption in Dyngjujökull outlet glacier of Vatnajökull, northeast of Bárðarbunga volcano, has begun.

He is, for what it is worth, considered the authority on Icelandic subglacial eruptions.

67 ausador  Aug 24, 2014 2:35:16am
68 ausador  Aug 24, 2014 2:37:11am
69 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 2:37:35am

re: #67 ausador

It’s a compliment to Palin, if anything./

70 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 2:37:40am

re: #67 ausador

Fox News has become a living parody of itself and is not even aware of the fact…

71 klys  Aug 24, 2014 2:39:50am

The Icelandic Meteorological Office has decided to keep the aviation level for this volcano only at red even while acknowledging that the earlier announcement that an eruption had started was likely incorrect in light of the ongoing seismic activity and crustal deformation. This no-fly zone also does not affect any international flights.

72 klys  Aug 24, 2014 2:41:20am

In a pun that tickles me far more than it should, there are a number of tweets going out from scientists about the whole thing using the hashtag #ashtag.

73 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 2:46:21am

Morning, Lizards. Hope you’re all doing well.

Here in the Czech Republic, a planned extreme-right anti-Gypsy protest march in the city of Děčin didn’t go as planned - because the DSSS (an extreme-right party, the Worker’s Party of Social Justice) got pwned by their opponents.

The Czech town of Děčín has experienced yet another anti-Romani demonstration, this time under the baton of the right-wing extremists from the Workers’ Social Justice Party (Dělnická strana sociální spravedlnosti - DSSS). The last hateful demonstration prior to this one in Děčín was organized by the notorious con artist Lukáš Kohout on Wednesday, 13 August.

Very few people turned out on the town square for today’s demonstration. Activists from the Konexe organization were there to support local Roma and news server romea.cz followed the situation in Děčín online in real time:

17:24 - The organizers of the DSSS assembly in Děčín have apparently been duped, just like con artist Lukáš Kohout was with respect to his assembly on the 13th. When advertising the event, the organizers shared a link online to the “Safe Děčín” (zabezpecnydecin.webnode.cz) website - which was actually established by their opponents. Yesterday the disinformation was posted there that the Saturday event was being postponed until next week. “We recommend that the DSSS and other fools like them not organize anything ever again if they’re this incompetent!” that website now reads. The site is now also publishing copies of the confused communications taking place among the right-wing extremists on Facebook, some of whom are expressing their disgust with the amateurism of the DSSS.

romea.cz

74 klys  Aug 24, 2014 2:49:14am

I am pleased with my evening’s work. Next I get to go back to working on the dress which is much more interesting than the sea of gold.

Or at least I get to change colors more often.

75 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 2:50:04am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

Worker’s Party of Social Justice

LEFTISTS!

76 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 2:52:39am

re: #75 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Worker’s Party of Social Justice

Didn’t Glenn Beck warn us of pastors (or anyone) who speaks of “social justice”?

77 ausador  Aug 24, 2014 2:58:44am

re: #75 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

LEFTISTS!

When somebody pulls that “The Nazis were leftists because their party was called the National Socialists” stuff I just say:

You mean like how the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is a democracy?

78 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 3:11:48am

re: #77 ausador

The thing is, NSDAP certainly had economical elements that are left-wing - at least seen from the American conservatarian perspective. The Four-year plan, welfare state…

When NSDAP is labeled right-wing by scholars, it’s the ideology that is so named, not the economic system. When wingnuts deny the right-wing nature of Nazism, they’re trying to use the modern American political terms and that is nonsense. If something doesn’t fit the American conservatarian definition of “right-wing”, that doesn’t make it “left-wing” - allegedly the conservatarians are for “individual liberty” and against the “govt overreach” - but does that mean that any absolute monarchy is “left-wing”?

79 Lancelot Link  Aug 24, 2014 3:23:08am

We just had a very impressive earthquake here in the Bay Area.

80 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 3:24:09am

Basically, the consensus def of fascism is Griffin’s “palingenetic (populist) ultranationalism”. Nothing about economic policies there. One could be right- or left-wing economically, and still be a fascist, i.e. right-wing ideologically (insomuch as economy and ideology are at all separable).

81 Single-handed sailor  Aug 24, 2014 3:29:46am

6.0 Quake in American Canyon area between Vallejo and Napa. Felt it here pretty good, lasted a long time.

82 Timothy Watson  Aug 24, 2014 3:30:48am

re: #78 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The thing is, NSDAP certainly had economical elements that are left-wing - at least seen from the American conservatarian perspective. The Four-year plan, welfare state…

When NSDAP is labeled right-wing by scholars, it’s the ideology that is so named, not the economic system. When wingnuts deny the right-wing nature of Nazism, they’re trying to use the modern American political terms and that is nonsense. If something doesn’t fit the American conservatarian definition of “right-wing”, that doesn’t make it “left-wing” - allegedly the conservatarians are for “individual liberty” and against the “govt overreach” - but does that mean that any absolute monarchy is “left-wing”?

Not to mention that the NSDAP was supported by business interests that wanted a party that would get rid of the trade unionists and put the workers in their place.

83 klys  Aug 24, 2014 3:32:47am

re: #79 Lancelot Link

We just had a very impressive earthquake here in the Bay Area.

re: #81 Single-handed sailor

6.0 Quake in American Canyon area between Vallejo and Napa. Felt it here pretty good, lasted a long time.

Felt down in the South Bay, enough to shake the shower door in the bathroom. We’d pegged it a high 3-low 4 if it was close.

84 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 3:34:40am

re: #82 Timothy Watson

Not to mention that the NSDAP was supported by business interests that wanted a party that would get rid of the trade unionists and put the workers in their place.

Nazis were socialists. Democrats are racists. MLK was a Republican.

Get your factoids straight!

/

85 klys  Aug 24, 2014 3:36:01am

Took almost 2 minutes to show down in my area, apparently. (I tweeted fairly soon after we were confident it had stopped for sure. Maybe 10-20 seconds shaking?)

86 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 3:36:07am

Here in the Czech Republic, there are a few extreme-right parties, but they’re small and generally insignificant. There are populist right parties that actually do clear the threshold for seats in the Parliament.

There’s really nothing like Fox News Channel here, but there is a network called Prima, which recently found itself in hot water; they had a segment about “dangerous places” on their nightly newscasts, said “dangerous places” being largely Romani neighborhoods, which were hyped as places where ethnic Czechs would be lynched if they went in there, cesspools of crime, corruption and depravity, yada, yada, yada.

This drew the attention of the Ministry of Communications, which monitored Prima and went on to issue a nominal fine of 2000 Kč (about $100) and warned them that Prima was coming perilously close to violating the Czech Republic hate-speech laws. They further warned Prima that the MoC would be monitoring their broadcasts, and that if that continued, they’d pull Prima’s broadcasting license.

Prima is appealing to the Constitutional Court, but most legal experts say they have pretty much no chance as the hate-speech laws have been found legal -and constitutional - time and time again. So Prima is on notice, and other broadcasters here are watching the case rather closely, as is the print media, in which I’ve noticed that anti-Gypsy stories (usually a staple of the tabloid press here and anti-Muslim stories as well) have quietly disappeared over the last few months.

87 Timothy Watson  Aug 24, 2014 3:48:01am

Somebody shoot me: I can’t believe that I was actually watching “The McLaughlin Group” while waiting for my breakfast to heat up.

88 freetoken  Aug 24, 2014 4:03:49am

Last night I opined that it seems like we’re fighting the battles of the 1960’s all over again.

There was a movie from 1965 which was a sort of homily about prejudice (of all sorts) and hate, Ship Of Fools, which I think is better than the IMDB rating would suggest (but since the movie is in b&w and has no aliens blowing up in space then I suppose many people these days wouldn’t find it exciting.)

Worth a gander if you can find it. Some of the characters would fit right in with today’s hate-right blogosphere:

Youtube Video

89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 4:06:13am

re: #88 freetoken

Last night I opined that it seems like we’re fighting the battles of the 1960’s all over again.

it is a mistake to take any of the gains made in minority, women’s or gay rights over the past 50 years for granted.

90 Varek Raith  Aug 24, 2014 4:06:59am

This is your wake up call!
6.0 magnitude earthquake hits northern California

91 KiTA  Aug 24, 2014 4:25:15am

re: #66 klys

Ah, well, I stand corrected.

I, for one, always expected Yellowstone to be the big volcano to take us all out. Glad to see it’s still in the running. ;)

92 A Mom Anon  Aug 24, 2014 5:04:01am

My friend who has cancer died yesterday afternoon. He was moved from ICU to the hospice floor and passed within two hours of being removed from the ventilator. His daughters curled up next to him in the bed while he passed. He was surrounded by his closest friends and family while the rest of us waited outside.

Sigh. It really feels intuitively wrong to refer to him in the past tense.

As an aside, nearly everyone in this group is right wing conservative. Which means while we were waiting that one guy, who just can’t stop himself, was trying to show me Obama hating crap while a friend of ours is fucking dying. I wanted so bad to just slap the living shit out of him. One of the pictures was Obama kissing some dignitary on the lips. Had I had my wits about me, I would have found that picture of Bush liplocked with the Saudi prince or whomever, but I just walked to the restroom. I don’t get this shit at all. What’s sad is that without the hateful ODS, this guy is really a decent human-funny as hell. We were roommates and good friends before I met The Husband. Ack. I’ll be seeing a lot of these people in coming weeks and months, I had been out of touch for a long, long time. Not sure how to handle this crap, I’m torn between wanting to slap people and being happy to reconnect with a huge group of old friends. Time will tell I guess.

93 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 5:08:51am

re: #92 A Mom Anon

My friend who has cancer died yesterday afternoon. He was moved from ICU to the hospice floor and passed within two hours of being removed from the ventilator. His daughters curled up next to him in the bed while he passed. He was surrounded by his closest friends and family while the rest of us waited outside.

Sigh. It really feels intuitively wrong to refer to him in the past tense.

As an aside, nearly everyone in this group is right wing conservative. Which means while we were waiting that one guy, who just can’t stop himself, was trying to show me Obama hating crap while a friend of ours is fucking dying. I wanted so bad to just slap the living shit out of him. One of the pictures was Obama kissing some dignitary on the lips. Had I had my wits about me, I would have found that picture of Bush liplocked with the Saudi prince or whomever, but I just walked to the restroom. I don’t get this shit at all. What’s sad is that without the hateful ODS, this guy is really a decent human-funny as hell. We were roommates and good friends before I met The Husband. Ack. I’ll be seeing a lot of these people in coming weeks and months, I had been out of touch for a long, long time. Not sure how to handle this crap, I’m torn between wanting to slap people and being happy to reconnect with a huge group of old friends. Time will tell I guess.

{A Mon Anon}

94 Maxwell Not So Smart  Aug 24, 2014 5:09:13am

re: #92 A Mom Anon

Very sorry for your loss. I would just try saying something like I really don’t want to talk about that crap. Lets keep on topic of what we are here for instead of getting into the political BS. Put the phone down and live in the here and now. If you really want to talk politics I’m just not interested right now.

95 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 5:13:10am

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

Good to hear. Those anti-Roma stories are nothing but incitement against a vulnerable minority group. As far as I can tell, they have no goal except getting other ethic groups to attack the Romani.

96 becominginvisible  Aug 24, 2014 5:35:48am

Morning local news on US CST and seeing video of homes and mobile homes in flames from Napa CA earthquake. No reports of fatalities yet, hope only minor injuries.

97 Varek Raith  Aug 24, 2014 5:37:27am

Revised to 6.1.

98 ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2014 5:44:41am

re: #92 A Mom Anon

My friend who has cancer died yesterday afternoon. He was moved from ICU to the hospice floor and passed within two hours of being removed from the ventilator. His daughters curled up next to him in the bed while he passed. He was surrounded by his closest friends and family while the rest of us waited outside.

Sorry to hear about your friend passing.

Hang in there Mom. Do not let the haters bring you down.

99 Varek Raith  Aug 24, 2014 5:46:27am

Neat.
cnn.com

100 Maxwell Not So Smart  Aug 24, 2014 5:53:46am

re: #99 Varek Raith

Cool. Now I want to see them blow stuff up.

101 b.d.  Aug 24, 2014 5:57:21am

re: #92 A Mom Anon

{{A Mom Anon}}

102 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 6:16:46am

re: #92 A Mom Anon

My sincerest condolences.

103 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 6:24:40am

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

That’s exactly what it is; incitement. There’s enough problems with Czech racism towards the Romani - and xenophobia as well - without some numbskulls in the media trying to fan the flames. There’s a populist politician here who’s in trouble over Holocaust Denial - specifically, he questioned that any Romani died at the Lety Concentration Camp. Under Czech law, that falls under their Holocaust Denial laws, so he’s in deep doodoo, and he was digging himself deeper until one his more media-savvy advisers presumably told him to shut the hell up.

Unfortunately, Czechs themselves have a tendency to dismiss the Romani aspect of the Nazi’s “New Order”, partly because a good many of them have no real problem with it, and partly because it means admitting broad Czech collaboration with the Nazis in regards to that squalid affair - something the Czechs are exceedingly uncomfortable with.

104 A Mom Anon  Aug 24, 2014 6:41:33am

Thanks all for the condolences. This whole thing has been just tough, and draining as hell.

I have a feeling I’m going to encounter this anti-liberal, anti-Obama crap a lot from this group. I think I’m going to just step off that for awhile and there will probably come a day where I just say something like “so all liberals are evil and lazy? What about The Husband and myself? Are we so awful? Because we’re pretty liberal and vote that way”. I’ll use Mom Guilt, lol.

105 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 6:43:28am

Livestream here from KGO News (ABC affiliate) on the American Canyon earthquake that hit the Northern California area.

abc7news.com

106 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 6:47:46am

Still down in Pismo Beach…missed the earthquake. Looks like it’s going to fuck up one of the normal traffic blockages in the east bay for a few days.

107 A Mom Anon  Aug 24, 2014 6:50:14am

Hope all the n.ca lizards are safe this morning. I have to get ready to take The Son back to school here in a bit. Be Excellent to One Another. Later Lizards.

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2014 6:54:41am

He has lots more photos on his TL.

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2014 6:57:49am
110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 7:05:24am

re: #103 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately, Czechs themselves have a tendency to dismiss the Romani aspect of the Nazi’s “New Order”, partly because a good many of them have no real problem with it, and partly because it means admitting broad Czech collaboration with the Nazis in regards to that squalid affair - something the Czechs are exceedingly uncomfortable with.

I can sort of vaguely understand Neo-Nazi sentiment in countries that were allied with Nazi Germany but not occupied, like Romania or Bulgaria, but countries that were formerly occupied?

That takes some seriously sick thinking.

111 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 7:07:34am

112 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 7:14:06am

re: #104 A Mom Anon

I’ll use Mom Guilt, lol.

Sounds like a strong plan! :)

113 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 7:20:46am

re: #111 darthstar

I know, I know…find a door-jam and stay put. Exit when it’s safe.

114 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 7:24:06am

re: #103 Dr Lizardo

That’s exactly what it is; incitement. There’s enough problems with Czech racism towards the Romani - and xenophobia as well - without some numbskulls in the media trying to fan the flames. There’s a populist politician here who’s in trouble over Holocaust Denial - specifically, he questioned that any Romani died at the Lety Concentration Camp. Under Czech law, that falls under their Holocaust Denial laws, so he’s in deep doodoo, and he was digging himself deeper until one his more media-savvy advisers presumably told him to shut the hell up.

Unfortunately, Czechs themselves have a tendency to dismiss the Romani aspect of the Nazi’s “New Order”, partly because a good many of them have no real problem with it, and partly because it means admitting broad Czech collaboration with the Nazis in regards to that squalid affair - something the Czechs are exceedingly uncomfortable with.

I think I understand, having read a book about that aspect of the Holocaust (Moral Combat: Good and Evil in World War II by Michael Burleigh) last year.

Some of it was the diabolically clever way Reinhard Heydrich set up the removal of the Roma before he was eliminated (he didn’t set up everything but he did a great deal). The Nazis in the Czech region used rewards such as shoes* confiscated from the black market as an incentive to Czechs to point out Roma camps and turn in Roma and Jews in hiding.

Moreover, unlike in the occupied Baltic States and USSR the Germans did not kill their victims then and there. They put their victims on trains and took them away, explaining that they were being “resettled in the East”. So people could think they hadn’t played a role in mass murder, until the end of the war when liberation of the camps tore the wool from their eyes.

115 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 7:33:07am

Remember when I said the racial unrest we are seeing now is similar to the pre-CRA era? The difference being that those who are being profiled, now have 2 generations living the benefits of the CRA?

I think we have come a long way. Emmet Till’s family didn’t have a chance to speak at the UN.

My son, 17-year-old Jordan Davis … was killed at a gas station in Jacksonville, Florida, for no other reason other than the color of his skin and also that he was playing loud music,” Ron Davis said, speaking about his own purpose in Geneva. “I think that shooter Michael Dunn was emboldened by the fact that when he took a concealed-weapons class they [told] him, 𠆊ll you have to say when you shoot somebody is five things: I feared for my life.

Source: the Root. The link above is to my Pages Post.

116 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 7:36:57am
117 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 7:38:09am

I know, the Rick Perry indictments will not go anywhere. I just like to see that fucker suffer. I suspect a lot of Texans feel the same.

118 lawhawk  Aug 24, 2014 7:42:23am

Wakey wakey. Eggs and shakey. Gee, so totally not the way to wake up this morning to find out that a pretty significant quake hit Napa and Northern CA. It could have been so much worse, but it’s still plenty bad.

119 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 7:44:14am

re: #118 lawhawk

Wakey wakey. Eggs and shakey. Gee, so totally not the way to wake up this morning to find out that a pretty significant quake hit Napa and Northern CA. It could have been so much worse, but it’s still plenty bad.

Yeah…..looks like there’s been some serious structural damage in downtown Napa, and some damage in Vallejo as well, but thus far, no fatalities.

120 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 7:45:24am

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

Yeah…..looks like there’s been some serious structural damage in downtown Napa, and some damage in Vallejo as well, but thus far, no fatalities.

Have you no heart man!

the grapes,,,, think of the grapes !!

Image: grapecloseup.jpg

121 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 7:45:35am

re: #118 lawhawk

Wakey wakey. Eggs and shakey. Gee, so totally not the way to wake up this morning to find out that a pretty significant quake hit Napa and Northern CA. It could have been so much worse, but it’s still plenty bad.

The air is so thick in my part of the world it’s hard to breathe. Not terribly hot, just sticky. Strange! Everything is very lush and green tho.

122 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 7:46:32am

re: #120 sattv4u2

Have you no heart man!

the grapes,,,, think of the grapes !!

Image: grapecloseup.jpg

What have the grapes every done for us? They better not claim any entitlements!

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2014 7:46:32am

re: #120 sattv4u2

Have you no heart man!

the grapes,,,, think of the grapes !!

Image: grapecloseup.jpg

The wine…

124 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 7:47:01am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

The wine…

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OH,.,,, THE HUMANITY!!!!

125 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 7:47:32am

re: #121 FemNaziBitch

The air is so thick in my part of the world it’s hard to breathe. Not terribly hot, just sticky. Strange! Everything is very lush and green tho.

Lots of plants LOVE the moisture the humidity brings

126 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 7:47:54am

re: #115 FemNaziBitch

Could you please take a look at this story from the NY Daily News? I’ve got thoughts on it but I’d like to read your take on it:

Two female Oregon jail workers had sex with same male inmate: authorities

Is this a gender issue, a racial issue, or just people behaving foolishly? Please give me your view of it.

127 urbanmeemaw  Aug 24, 2014 7:48:31am

re: #92 A Mom Anon

{{{A Mom Anon}}}}

128 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 7:50:06am

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

a gender issue, a racial issue, or just people behaving foolishly

HORNY HUMANS WANT SEX ,,,,,,
DOG BITES MAN,,,,,,

FILM AT 11 !!!!

129 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 7:50:52am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

The wine…

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I’m genuinely concerned about some of the caves I’ve visited. Lots of dusty bottles of red goodness down there. The barrels are in secure racks that can take an 8.0. Wineries think about these things.

130 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 7:52:17am

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

People fuck.

131 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 7:52:51am

re: #120 sattv4u2

Have you no heart man!

the grapes,,,, think of the grapes !!

Image: grapecloseup.jpg

That reminded me; my mother had quit smoking in 1971 - she’d been quit for about a year and half….

….until the 1971 Sylmar Earthquake hit. She was from Sweden, and generally speaking, Sweden’s pretty solid - not a lot of shaking going on there. So after that quake got done rocking, she immediately walked down to the liquor store on the corner and bought herself a carton of Winston’s.

She smoked until she passed away back in 2004.

132 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 7:53:13am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

The wine…

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The horror…the horror…

133 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 7:57:32am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

The wine…

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Beh, if it was red wine being sold at a Walgreen’s then it probably wasn’t very good anyways.

134 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 7:58:28am

re: #128 sattv4u2

a gender issue, a racial issue, or just people behaving foolishly

HORNY HUMANS WANT SEX ,,,,,,
DOG BITES MAN,,,,,,

FILM AT 11 !!!!

The company I work for does work with jails. I’ve been to several jails and a prison on business. Being a guard at a county jail is not exactly glamorous work. It takes a person with a certain edge to deal with rooms full of meth heads, petty thieves, abusive assholes, etc. on a daily basis.

That some of them build relationships with the people they’re supposed to watch isn’t a surprise at all. They’re spending eight hours a day in the same room together. Of course there will be conversation. There shouldn’t be, but there is. That inmate had better hope his pod mates aren’t sad those ladies are gone. “They got fired because of you?”

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 24, 2014 7:59:38am

LOL gotta neo-Confederate revisionist here:

137 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 7:59:44am

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Could you please take a look at this story from the NY Daily News? I’ve got thoughts on it but I’d like to read your take on it:

Two female Oregon jail workers had sex with same male inmate: authorities

Is this a gender issue, a racial issue, or just people behaving foolishly? Please give me your view of it.

THE issue is that the Jail employees were in positions of Power over the inmate. They crossed the line.

138 Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 24, 2014 7:59:52am

re: #135 Aqua Obama

Darren Wilson’s first job was on a troubled police force disbanded by authorities

Let’s send him more money!

139 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:00:36am

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

That reminded me; my mother had quit smoking in 1971 - she’d been quit for about a year and half….

….until the 1971 Sylmar Earthquake hit. She was from Sweden, and generally speaking, Sweden’s pretty solid - not a lot of shaking going on there. So after that quake got done rocking, she immediately walked down to the liquor store on the corner and bought herself a carton of Winston’s.

She smoked until she passed away back in 2004.

Yeah, there are some things one just accepts. “A few pleasant little vices” …

140 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 8:00:56am

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

Beh, if it was red wine being sold at a Walgreen’s then it probably wasn’t very good anyways.

True, most of the wines at Walgreens will be under $15 a bottle. But not all inexpensive wine is bad. And if you’re running late for a dinner party and don’t have a hostess gift, it’s good to know you can find something respectable at the corner drug store before you arrive.

141 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2014 8:01:40am

re: #140 darthstar

True, most of the wines at Walgreens will be under $15 a bottle. But not all inexpensive wine is bad. And if you’re running late for a dinner party and don’t have a hostess gift, it’s good to know you can find something respectable at the corner drug store before you arrive.

At least the wine was in bottles instead of a box.

142 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:02:23am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

THE issue is that the Jail employees were in positions of Power over the inmate. They crossed the line.

Thank you. The world is more complicated than I used to think it was and in my desire to improve my understanding of things I sometimes overthink.

143 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 8:03:47am

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Could you please take a look at this story from the NY Daily News? I’ve got thoughts on it but I’d like to read your take on it:

Two female Oregon jail workers had sex with same male inmate: authorities

Is this a gender issue, a racial issue, or just people behaving foolishly? Please give me your view of it.


Don’t It Make a Hard-time Man Feel Bad?

(Wow. There is no trace of that song on Google’s Intertubes.)

144 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:04:18am

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Thank you. The world is more complicated than I used to think it was and in my desire to improve my understanding of things I sometimes overthink.

the rule of thumb that I use is “consenting adults”. The inmate was not in a position to consent (legally speaking—like a minor or person who is under the influence).

145 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:04:22am

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least the wine was in bottles instead of a box.

If it isn’t in a proper bottle then red wine isn’t normally considered respectable.

146 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:04:59am

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

If it isn’t in a proper bottle then red wine isn’t normally considered respectable.

screw-top or cork?

147 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 8:05:24am

re: #140 darthstar

True, most of the wines at Walgreens will be under $15 a bottle. But not all inexpensive wine is bad. And if you’re running late for a dinner party and don’t have a hostess gift, it’s good to know you can find something respectable at the corner drug store before you arrive.

And don’t forget the condoms too!!

(hey ,, you go to your type of dinner parties,,,, I go to mine!!! )

/// <<TOTALLY

148 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 8:05:35am

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

If it isn’t in a proper bottle then red wine isn’t normally considered respectable.

Avoiding respectability is a good retirement hobby.

149 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 8:05:56am

So California’s had drought and now an earthquake. When does the plague of locusts show up?

/

150 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:06:15am

re: #149 Targetpractice

So California’s had drought and now an earthquake. When does the plague of locusts show up?

/

FROGS!!!

151 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:06:43am

re: #146 FemNaziBitch

screw-top or cork?

Either. There are some higher end wines that use screw-tops now, as those don’t risk pieces of cork falling into the wine.

152 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 8:06:43am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

THE issue is that the Jail employees were in positions of Power over the inmate. They crossed the line.

Everything is monitored on video in jails. They can’t move from the pod (the common room for 30-90 inmates, depending on facility size) to the hallway without being buzzed out by Central Command. Usually there is a second door that also needs to be buzzed through, so if the inmates rush the open door they only go about 10 feet before hitting a second one. Only one door is allowed to be open at any time. So you buzz into a room. Wait for the door behind you to slide shut and lock, then buzz into the next area.

In other words, this wasn’t just a case of a couple of horny women taking advantage of an inmate. At least two other people were probably watching the whole thing take place.

153 Aqua Obama  Aug 24, 2014 8:08:41am

John McNaughton escaped Utah again:

“The difference between us and them”

154 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:08:52am

re: #152 darthstar

Everything is monitored on video in jails. They can’t move from the pod (the common room for 30-90 inmates, depending on facility size) to the hallway without being buzzed out by Central Command. Usually there is a second door that also needs to be buzzed through, so if the inmates rush the open door they only go about 10 feet before hitting a second one. Only one door is allowed to be open at any time. So you buzz into a room. Wait for the door behind you to slide shut and lock, then buzz into the next area.

In other words, this wasn’t just a case of a couple of horny women taking advantage of an inmate. At least two other people were probably watching the whole thing take place.

We are talking legalese. They were in positions of power over the inmate (if the genders had been reversed, it would probably be easier for people to understand. If there were two other people complicit to the activity, they are also in deep shit.

155 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 8:10:16am

re: #153 Aqua Obama

John McNaughton escaped Utah again:

“The difference between us and them”

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Not a Ferguson cop—he’s wearing badge and nameplate.

156 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:10:47am

re: #154 FemNaziBitch

We are talking legalese. They were in positions of power over the inmate (if the genders had been reversed, it would probably be easier for people to understand. If there were two other people complicit to the activity, they are also in deep shit.

Not to mention, there is probably a zero tolerance policy for employees having sex on the property/while on duty. With ANYONE!!

157 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 24, 2014 8:10:57am
158 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 8:11:45am

re: #157 Pie-onist Overlord

Tariffs? Really? What a maroon.

159 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:11:49am

re: #157 Pie-onist Overlord

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Slavery in this case being an economic issue —not necessarily a human right issue for some parties involved.

160 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 24, 2014 8:12:17am
161 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 8:14:03am

re: #160 Pie-onist Overlord

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Did you draw the short straw again?

162 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:14:12am
163 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 24, 2014 8:15:09am

Pro-tip for Neo-Confederates, DO NOT get into an argument with a Civil War History buff.

164 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 8:15:22am

re: #162 FemNaziBitch

How are they shot by current inmates? I’m just curious about the phrasing there.

165 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 24, 2014 8:15:47am

re: #164 Rev_Arthur_Belling

How are they shot by current inmates? I’m just curious about the phrasing there.

“Intimate” partners.

166 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 8:15:49am

re: #153 Aqua Obama

John McNaughton escaped Utah again:

“The difference between us and them”

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Mutants?

167 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 24, 2014 8:16:27am

re: #164 Rev_Arthur_Belling

How are they shot by current inmates? I’m just curious about the phrasing there.

“Intimate”, not “inmate”.

168 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 8:16:35am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

“Intimate” partners.

Damnit! I read that with the previous thread convo in mind!

169 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:16:44am
170 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 8:16:48am

re: #164 Rev_Arthur_Belling

How are they shot by current inmates? I’m just curious about the phrasing there.

I had to do a double-take as well. First read it as ‘inmate’.

171 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 24, 2014 8:16:50am

MOAR FAIL

172 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:17:15am

re: #164 Rev_Arthur_Belling

How are they shot by current inmates? I’m just curious about the phrasing there.

You might want to re-read my post.

173 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 8:17:22am

re: #164 Rev_Arthur_Belling

How are they shot by current inmates? I’m just curious about the phrasing there.

INTIMATE partners
not
INMATE partners

174 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 8:17:53am

re: #172 FemNaziBitch

re: #173 sattv4u2

See my red-faced reply above.

175 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:17:53am

re: #173 sattv4u2

INTIMATE partners
not
INMATE partners

Althought may DV victims may feel like inmates.

176 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:18:04am

re: #174 Rev_Arthur_Belling

See my red-faced reply above.

(((((Rev)))))

177 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:19:12am

re: #154 FemNaziBitch

We are talking legalese. They were in positions of power over the inmate (if the genders had been reversed, it would probably be easier for people to understand. If there were two other people complicit to the activity, they are also in deep shit.

Oh, if this were two men taking advantage of a woman people would easily understand, but it likely wouldn’t make the news. It may also have helped that the women are white and the inmate Latino.

I hope that latter angle doesn’t cause some wingnut site to pick the story up. Because I can just imagine how Freepers would see this one: “Dirty Mexican Gangbanger caught seducing our women!!”

178 bubba zanetti  Aug 24, 2014 8:19:21am

re: #153 Aqua Obama

179 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 8:19:31am

re: #174 Rev_Arthur_Belling

See my red-faced reply above.

Shush…we’re still correcting you.

180 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:20:20am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

On a serious note, another related issue, and frankly the one that prompted me to refer this story to GGT, is that it is kind of hard to see a man as the victim and women as the wrong doers in a case like this. I actually can and do see it that way, but there is always in my mind the wondering “How can it be a man who was sexually victimized? He has the penis and did most of the physical work of fucking after all.”

I know that last sentence is rather crude. and I apologize for that.

181 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 8:24:14am

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

just,,,,

wow!!

{sigh}

182 GeneJockey  Aug 24, 2014 8:24:32am

Slept right through it here in San Mateo. It’s possible one of the boys was awake for it, watching the new Tellybision. AFAIK, the dogs also slept through it. Lazy bastards.

re: #150 FemNaziBitch

FROGS!!!

Droughts and frogs are an unlikely mix. Droughts and ants, OTOH….

183 Amory Blaine  Aug 24, 2014 8:25:29am

re: #153 Aqua Obama

Needs more Eagles. Oh, and Jesus.

184 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:25:31am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Oh, if this were two men taking advantage of a woman people would easily understand, but it likely wouldn’t make the news. It may also have helped that the women are white and the inmate Latino.

I hope that latter angle doesn’t cause some wingnut site to pick the story up. Because I can just imagine how Freepers would see this one: “Dirty Mexican Gangbanger caught seducing our women!!”

Yeah, it took a while for people to accept that a female teacher should be held responsible for having sex with an underage male student. But it’s pretty much accepted now.

185 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 8:25:48am

re: #143 Decatur Deb


Don’t It Make a Hard-time Man Feel Bad?

(Wow. There is no trace of that song on Google’s Intertubes.)

Ah. It’s under variations for the line…

Youtube Video

186 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 8:25:57am

re: #182 GeneJockey

Slept right through it here in San Mateo

So that leads to the question, exactly how much DID you have to drink before going to bed!?!?!

//

187 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:28:05am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Oh, if this were two men taking advantage of a woman people would easily understand, but it likely wouldn’t make the news. It may also have helped that the women are white and the inmate Latino.

I hope that latter angle doesn’t cause some wingnut site to pick the story up. Because I can just imagine how Freepers would see this one: “Dirty Mexican Gangbanger caught seducing our women!!”

Well, that could be a valid perspective if the women involved weren’t employees in a system in which they should know better. He can’t be the first inmate to want to have sex with them. I would hope the employer has specific training to that issue.

188 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 8:29:34am

re: #187 FemNaziBitch

Well, that could be a valid perspective if the women involved weren’t employees in a system in which they should know better. He can’t be the first inmate to want to have sex with them. I would hope the employer has specific training to that issue.

TRAINING SESSION DAY ONE// MODULE ONE

Don’t have sex with the inmates, be they male or female, be YOU male or female

And that concludes our training!

189 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 8:30:11am

re: #188 sattv4u2

TRAINING SESSION DAY ONE// MODULE ONE

Don’t have sex with the inmates, be they male or female, be YOU male or female

And that concludes our training!

Needs more powerpoint ;)

190 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:30:12am

re: #188 sattv4u2

TRAINING SESSION DAY ONE// MODULE ONE

Don’t have sex with the inmates, be they male or female, be YOU male or female

And that concludes our training!

You forgot to point out the consequences. …

;)

191 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:30:36am

re: #162 FemNaziBitch

Domestic violence victim fatally turns gun on attacker following five-hour assault

One Million United wants women to embrace self-defense (VIDEO)

Men may be far more likely to own or carry guns but they provide a greater “balance of advantage” to women. A man who is bigger and stronger than his intended victim can still use a knife or tire iron instead of a gun, but the victim is still at a serious disadvantage if she tries to use such a weapon to defend herself. But if both have guns, things are far more equal.

Also do not forget the Marissa Alexander case that we both posted about. She ended up in prison (she’s now been released on bail and likely won’t be retried as the law on point in Florida has been changed as a result of her case), but she might well have been beaten to death by her violent husband had she not been able to defend herself with a gun.

192 danarchy  Aug 24, 2014 8:30:40am

Was walking the dog and I saw 2 things that made me shake my head and go Huh? First was a car with a big confederate flag decal covering the whole hood of the car. Then maybe 10 minutes later I saw one of those “Rollin coal” trucks.

I still live in Massachusetts right? 

193 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 8:31:03am

re: #146 FemNaziBitch

screw-top or cork?

Screw-top is not necessarily a sign of poor quality. If it is a light white or rosé that is not meant to be stored for any length of time, a screw top is fine. Corks are, however, really needed for any wine that is going to be aged for more than a year.

194 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:31:06am

re: #187 FemNaziBitch

Well, that could be a valid perspective if the women involved weren’t employees in a system in which they should know better. He can’t be the first inmate to want to have sex with them. I would hope the employer has specific training to that issue.

Oh, and don’t forget —who had the GUN???

195 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 8:31:39am

re: #189 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Needs more powerpoint ;)

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196 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 8:33:11am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Screw-top is not necessarily a sign of poor quality. If it is a light white or rosé that is not meant to be stored for any length of time, a screw top is fine. Corks are, however, really needed for any wine that is going to be aged for more than a year.

There are also now plastic corks.

197 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:33:58am

re: #181 sattv4u2

just,,,,

wow!!

{sigh}

I know that line of thought is wrong, I know why it is wrong, and it does not rule me. My words and actions are controlled by the correct way of seeing things, but yet I cannot make the wrong way go away completely.

The wrong way is lies, whispered by the Demon. I keep him locked away in a cell of his own, but I cannot silence him completely.

198 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 8:34:51am

re: #192 danarchy

Used to see both of those all the time in Massachusetts. Once you get out past 495 or southerly, down Route 3 after Plymouth/ before the Cape or down Rte 24 before and after Brockton

199 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:34:59am

re: #191 Dark_Falcon


Domestic violence victim fatally turns gun on attacker following five-hour assault

One Million United wants women to embrace self-defense (VIDEO)

Men may be far more likely to own or carry guns but they provide a greater “balance of advantage” to women. A man who is bigger and stronger than his intended victim can still use a knife or tire iron instead of a gun, but the victim is still at a serious disadvantage if she tries to use such a weapon to defend herself. But if both have guns, things are far more equal.

Also do not forget the Marissa Alexander case that we both posted about. She ended up in prison (she’s now been released on bail and likely won’t be retried as the law on point in Florida has been changed as a result of her case), but she might well have been beaten to death by her violent husband had she not been able to defend herself with a gun.

IIRC, most domestic violence victims are so thoroughly conditioned by the predator that the predator will over power then, disarm them, then use the gun to further his control.

It takes a lot of training to overpower such conditioning —often instilled in childhood and capitalized on by predators later in life.

I’m inclined to think that if every kid got a merit badge in gun safety , there would be fewer problems overall. Fear of firearms is a major factor with DV victims.

200 calochortus  Aug 24, 2014 8:35:04am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Screw-top is not necessarily a sign of poor quality. If it is a light white or rosé that is not meant to be stored for any length of time, a screw top is fine. Corks are, however, really needed for any wine that is going to be aged for more than a year.

Just a drive-by, but nope, not any more. The Aussies in particular are starting to bottle some really good reds with screw tops. They age just fine and will never end up ‘corked’ as a surprising percentage of wines are. (Estimates vary from 1% to as high as 10%.)

201 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:35:38am

re: #194 FemNaziBitch

Oh, and don’t forget —who had the GUN???

None of them did. In prisons, guns are kept locked away except for guard towers.

202 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 8:36:34am

Ha!

203 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 8:37:45am

re: #181 sattv4u2

just,,,,

wow!!

{sigh}

Our little boy is growing up. He actually used the words ‘penis’ and ‘fucking’ in the same sentence.

204 FemNaziBitch  Aug 24, 2014 8:38:09am

bbl

205 Aqua Obama  Aug 24, 2014 8:39:32am

From yesterdays’s NAACP youth march

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206 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 8:40:48am

re: #205 Aqua Obama

From yesterdays’s NAACP youth march

Image: 53f94c5539d64.preview-620.jpg

Good cops have a shitload of road to repair.

207 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 8:40:49am

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

I know that line of thought is wrong, I know why it is wrong, and it does not rule me. My words and actions are controlled by the correct way of seeing things, but yet I cannot make the wrong way go away completely.

The wrong way is lies, whispered by the Demon. I keep him locked away in a cell of his own, but I cannot silence him completely.

Oh, don’t go all Puritan on us now. You just used simple words to describe a simple act. That’s actually an effective communication technique. You should be proud of yourself. Now go give that Demon a good soapy spanking.

Me, I’ve gotta walk the dogs. Later, everyone.

208 GeneJockey  Aug 24, 2014 8:42:35am

re: #186 sattv4u2

Slept right through it here in San Mateo

So that leads to the question, exactly how much DID you have to drink before going to bed!?!?!

//

IIRC, it was one Anchor California Lager, 4hrs prior. I needed to stay sharp to figure out the “Smart TV”. I fear it’s smarter than I am.

We have a really nice bed. That, and we’ve lived in CA for 32 years. You lose your sensitivity to the small ones, especially after going through a big one like Loma Prieta.

209 sattv4u2  Aug 24, 2014 8:44:01am

re: #207 darthstar

Me, I’ve gotta walk the dogs. Later, everyone.

Doing the same

210 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:44:44am

re: #207 darthstar

Oh, don’t go all Puritan on us now. You just used simple words to describe a simple act. That’s actually an effective communication technique. You should be proud of yourself. Now go give that Demon a good soapy spanking.

Me, I’ve gotta walk the dogs. Later, everyone.

It’s not “fucking” that is the work of the Demon, he represents far worse than bad language. Occasionally one has to be crude, and that doesn’t bother me too much.

211 danarchy  Aug 24, 2014 8:45:41am

re: #198 sattv4u2

Used to see both of those all the time in Massachusetts. Once you get out past 495 or southerly, down Route 3 after Plymouth/ before the Cape or down Rte 24 before and after Brockton

I thought the whole rolling coal thing was a relatively new phenomenon, at least outside of Semi trucks. I’ve lived in MA all my life(outside the 495 belt both south and west) and can’t say I’ve ever seen a pickup modified to do it.

212 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 24, 2014 8:46:49am

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

I actually can and do see it that way, but there is always in my mind the wondering “How can it be a man who was sexually victimized? He has the penis and did most of the physical work of fucking after all.”

This same line of thinking winds up blaming (female) date-rape victims.

213 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2014 8:52:45am

Inanimate Intimate Inmate.

214 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 8:54:53am

re: #212 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

This same line of thinking winds up blaming (female) date-rape victims.

I know, that why I keep it caged and don’t let it influence my actions. But it doesn’t just go away, you know?

215 Skip Intro  Aug 24, 2014 8:57:29am

re: #178 bubba zanetti

Slight correction: Cops will capture white children in their enormous pedipalps

216 stpaulbear  Aug 24, 2014 9:00:34am

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

TMI

217 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2014 9:00:40am
218 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 24, 2014 9:00:55am

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

I know, that why I keep it caged and don’t let it influence my actions. But it doesn’t just go away, you know?

No, I don’t really know what you’re talking about. You seem to be presenting a wrong idea as an emotional feeling, and I can’t really get it.

Have you talked to a therapist about this?

219 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 9:01:42am

re: #218 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

No, I don’t really know what you’re talking about. You seem to be presenting a wrong idea as an emotional feeling, and I can’t really get it.

Have you talked to a therapist about this?

Nope. I haven’t got the money for that, nor the time.

220 ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2014 9:02:24am

Dark,

I think you need to do a bit of study on the human brain and what a powerful, beautiful, ugly, happy, scary, uncontrollable (and so much many more terms) organ it is.

Obdi just hit on it. “Thinking.”

You seem to like to live in the hard fact physical and material world. What goes on in the human mind impacts all of that.

Read and study more information dealing with the power of the human psyche as it would give you more feel for the mental behind the physical.

And that might even change how some of the hard facts you see need to be weighed against the human thinking that led to them.

Take the jail thing you brought up. There is a lot more ‘mental’ aspect to the whole thing than you seem to consider.

221 BongCrodny  Aug 24, 2014 9:05:23am

re: #191 Dark_Falcon


Domestic violence victim fatally turns gun on attacker following five-hour assault

One Million United wants women to embrace self-defense (VIDEO)

Men may be far more likely to own or carry guns but they provide a greater “balance of advantage” to women. A man who is bigger and stronger than his intended victim can still use a knife or tire iron instead of a gun, but the victim is still at a serious disadvantage if she tries to use such a weapon to defend herself. But if both have guns, things are far more equal.

Also do not forget the Marissa Alexander case that we both posted about. She ended up in prison (she’s now been released on bail and likely won’t be retried as the law on point in Florida has been changed as a result of her case), but she might well have been beaten to death by her violent husband had she not been able to defend herself with a gun.

What’s the timeline you’re showing on the Marissa Alexander case?

The last I read was in July, where she had been denied a hearing under Stand Your Ground. Is there more recent information than that?

222 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 24, 2014 9:07:04am

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

Nope. I haven’t got the money for that, nor the time.

Yes, you do, to both. Therapists are available on a sliding scale, and an appointment takes 50 minutes. Don’t make excuses, you owe it to yourself and those who care about you to do this.

You’ve repeatedly stated, over the years, how deeply unhappy you are with aspects of yourself, and it clearly, clearly impacts your functionality and thought processes. Please see a therapist and give yourself a chance. If you decide not to, don’t make weak-ass excuses about time and money, just say you’re going to shirk responsibility and not try to solve anything.

223 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 9:07:33am
224 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 9:10:38am
225 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2014 9:11:05am

re: #221 BongCrodny

What’s the timeline you’re showing on the Marissa Alexander case?

The last I read was in July, where she had been denied a hearing under Stand Your Ground. Is there more recent information than that?

She was released on bond and placed under house arrest late last year when her conviction was overturned and a new trial ordered.
Far as I know, that’s still the situation.

226 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 9:11:30am

re: #223 Gus

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Rand Paul, the man of a thousand positions, none of them his own.

227 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 9:11:46am

re: #223 Gus

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It was a friendly neighborhood game of It-tag gone bad.

Please let Rand Paul make it through the 2016 primary debates, PLEASE.

228 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 9:11:47am

re: #221 BongCrodny

What’s the timeline you’re showing on the Marissa Alexander case?

The last I read was in July, where she had been denied a hearing under Stand Your Ground. Is there more recent information than that?

The last I read she was out on bail and the judge was studying the changes the Florida legislature had just made to self-defense law.

229 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 9:13:42am

re: #226 Targetpractice

Rand Paul, the man of a thousand positions, none of them his own.

If Rand knows a thousand positions, he should be directing porn. In fact, he should be directing porn in any case.

230 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 9:13:46am
231 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 9:14:21am

So much for the threat to behead him. That’s good news.

232 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 9:15:38am

re: #230 darthstar

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Cancel the air strikes! Please, cancel the air strikes!!! //

233 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 9:16:10am

re: #232 Gus

Cancel the air strikes! Please, cancel the air strikes!!! //

Sh…nobody’s told John McCain yet. Let him rant.

234 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 9:17:59am

re: #232 Gus

Cancel the air strikes! Please, cancel the air strikes!!! //

Not going to happen. We’re going to be bombing ISIS for a while yet, so best just get used to it.

235 BongCrodny  Aug 24, 2014 9:18:35am

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

The last I read she was out on bail and the judge was studying the changes the Florida legislature had just made to self-defense law.

Okay. I had read —in July — that in addition to the above hearing I read that State Attorney Angela Corey was still planning to prosecute, and was looking for a sixty-year sentence.

I was hoping your information was more up-to-date.

236 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 9:19:18am

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

Not going to happen. We’re going to be bombing ISIS for a while yet, so best just get used to it.

[Puts on ACDC song.]

237 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 9:19:35am

re: #233 darthstar

Sh…nobody’s told John McCain yet. Let him rant.

238 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2014 9:20:00am
239 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 9:25:16am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ain’t that the truth. “Time to get up! I’m hungry!! FEED ME!!!”

240 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 9:25:18am
241 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 24, 2014 9:28:27am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Meow=Me NOW!!

242 sagehen  Aug 24, 2014 9:31:41am

re: #231 darthstar

So much for the threat to behead him. That’s good news.

He’s not the one they were threatening to behead; possibly this is a different group of kidnappers? Realizing they won’t get paid, plus US/UK who were trying to stay out of Syria now expressing interest in maybe not staying out of Syria?

243 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 9:32:10am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Minus one Cuteness point for the kitten’s claws being out. Plus one Good Owner point for finding a way to live with said claws.

244 Bear  Aug 24, 2014 9:32:32am

Any stories from the SF Bay area about the earthquake in the Napa area this morning?

245 Timothy Watson  Aug 24, 2014 9:33:49am

Charles:

Can you work on the -/+ button’s margins on the mobile site?

Depending on the length of the poster’s name the + button is too close to the right side of the screen and trying to hit it sometimes causes me to activate the - button instead and spend half a minute trying to get the + button to activate.

I’m on a Samsung Galaxy S5 using Chrome.

246 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 24, 2014 9:33:57am

re: #244 Bear

Any stories from the SF Bay area about the earthquake in the Napa area this morning?

Called my parents: it woke them up, but didn’t even open a drawer.

The house they’re in is pre-1906 though, and is built on bedrock, so they’re hardly a representative sample.

247 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 9:36:41am
248 darthstar  Aug 24, 2014 9:38:16am

I still like Dan Rather.

249 Bear  Aug 24, 2014 9:39:27am

re: #246 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Glad to hear that.

250 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 9:42:50am

re: #247 Gus

And that’s my cue for the latest in Dark Falcon’s Stories Featuring the Word “Benghazi” That Are Actually About Benghazi:

TRIPOLI/BENGHAZI Libya (Reuters) - Forces from the Libyan city of Misrata on Saturday seized Tripoli’s main airport after more than a month of fighting with a rival group, a Misrata spokesman said.

Pictures on social media purportedly showed Misrata fighters celebrating at the terminal building and standing on civilian planes in what, if confirmed, would be a big development in the battle to control the capital.

Arab channels Jazeera and Al-Arabiya also said Misrata forces were controlling the airport, although Reuters was unable immediately to access the area. Heavy shelling could be heard in other parts of the city.

War planes had earlier struck Misrata positions in Tripoli in an attack claimed by renegade general Khalifa Haftar. The raids killed 10 people and wounded dozens, the Misrata faction said.

SNIP

BENGHAZI CLASHES

Fresh fighting also erupted between Haftar’s troops and allied army special forces with Islamists in two Benghazi suburbs, where loud explosions could be heard. Four soldiers were killed and 31 wounded, a hospital medic said.

251 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 9:44:39am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

BENGHAZI CLASHES

Fresh fighting also erupted between Haftar’s troops and allied army special forces with Islamists in two Benghazi suburbs, where loud explosions could be heard. Four soldiers were killed and 31 wounded, a hospital medic said.

And Obama will just go golfing or sit idly by and do nothing about it!!!

252 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 9:44:49am

re: #248 darthstar

But if we’re sending only airpower and special ops, those aren’t jobs most people can do. So most pundits couldn’t “send their kids” even if they wanted to.

253 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 9:49:39am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

But if we’re sending only airpower and special ops, those aren’t jobs most people can do. So most pundits couldn’t “send their kids” even if they wanted to.

They’re somebody’s kids…

254 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 9:51:04am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They’re somebody’s kids…

If JFK and GHW Bush could find a slot, there’s room for a couple Romneys.

255 Bear  Aug 24, 2014 9:54:06am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

It would be far better to send the Pundits.

256 lawhawk  Aug 24, 2014 9:54:15am

The Obama golf critics will complain no matter what he does. Proof that he’s in a conference room while a raid is ongoing, they’ll go and claim that it’s either p-shopped or that he’s micromanaging. If he’s making daily statements, they’ll claim he’s micromanaging or that he’s doing it wrong or that he needs to reach across the aisle to talk to GOPers.

If he reaches across the aisle and gets a stone cold stare, the critics complain if only he’d be more open to their ideas.

If he co-opts their ideas, the critics claim the idea was unconstitutional.

If he tries to break the gridlock and use the power of the Executive (which every president has done via signing statments and executive orders from the 20th century and forward), the critics claim it’s an unconstitutional abuse of power.

The critics will never stop complaining. Their only solace is that they either call for impeachment or that he’ll be out of office in January 2017. Of course, some of these same critics also think that the President is a tyrant and wont leave peacefully.

So, this is the state of his critics. Which is, for intents and purposes, a bunch of right wing extremists who will shatter the public compact with government and will use any and every available means to undermine this President at home or abroad to do so.

257 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 9:54:42am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

If JFK and GHW Bush could find a slot, there’s room for a couple Romneys.

Actually, there’s an age gap there: Mitt’s sons are too old, and their own children are too young as of yet.

258 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 9:55:13am

Oh look.

He also RT’d this recently.

259 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 9:55:31am

re: #255 Bear

It would be far better to send the Pundits.

LOLOL

The 105th Chairborne Division. “The Mighty Megaphones!”

That would be a sight to behold.

260 Timothy Watson  Aug 24, 2014 9:55:55am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

If JFK and GHW Bush could find a slot, there’s room for a couple Romneys.

Prince Harry and Andrew figured it out, I’m sure they can too.

262 sagehen  Aug 24, 2014 9:58:14am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

If JFK and GHW Bush could find a slot, there’s room for a couple Romneys.

If the Queen of England can send her sons and grandsons through the military academy, have all of them join up, all of them serve, most of them in harm’s way…

Our Presidents and candidates can do the same.

263 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 24, 2014 9:58:26am

re: #248 darthstar

So the simple fact that winding up for a fight for (perhaps) the right reasons sounds like winding up for the wrong reasons means nobody without kids to send can’t talk about it?

Bitter old betrayer of honest news says what?

264 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 9:59:19am

re: #256 lawhawk

Um Lawhawk, that piece Gus linked to was written by Maureen Dowd. And whatever else she may be, she’s not a right-wing extremist.

265 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 9:59:22am
266 Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2014 10:01:10am

re: #265 Gus

Put a nice fedora on him and he’d look like a 1930s-era Mob button-man.

267 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:01:50am

Ugh, need coffee… typos.

268 jaunte  Aug 24, 2014 10:01:57am

re: #265 Gus

“Road to Perrydition”

269 sagehen  Aug 24, 2014 10:02:30am

re: #258 Gus

Oh look.

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Perhaps Mr Cumia is unaware how many Black former-Americans live in Canada, and Sweden, and Norway…

270 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 10:03:22am

re: #265 Gus

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Well, that fellow does have the right weapon for Chicago. And that is a great looking Thompson SMG. Look at that good blued finish on the metal and that nice, dark walnut stuck and foregrip. Great stuff, showing real care in manufacturing a craftsmanship.

271 Varek Raith  Aug 24, 2014 10:03:39am

re: #258 Gus

Oh look.

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This is the guy KT fell on his sword for?
Yeesh.

272 lawhawk  Aug 24, 2014 10:03:59am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Did I reference that Dowd column? Is she even writing?

She’s a hack critic in any event, and the criticism of Obama’s critics still stand. They will complain about every position taken - too much action. Inaction.

And the golf criticisms are just flat out batcrap nuts.

Doesn’t matter who’s making the criticism.

A president doesn’t have a day off. Period. The President might be away from the WH, but they’re never on a day off.

Events can change in a heartbeat and you’ve got to respond. Every president gets a PDB on a daily basis. They’re reviewing documents, getting notifications. Planning. Doing strategy sessions. In other words, working.

A round of golf, or 100, doesn’t indicate anything other than stress relief, which is an absolute necessity for a sitting president. It’s also a way of informally working too - working on deals, strategy, etc., while on the links.

The whole vacation days meme regardless of the party affiliation of the President is just so much BS. Period. No qualifications.

273 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 10:04:21am

re: #268 jaunte

“Road to Perrydition”

Is that Rick Perry? Sorry, I was too focused on the Thompson.

274 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 10:06:29am
275 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 10:07:12am

re: #272 lawhawk

It’s fine, LH, and I agree with you that Dowd is a hack. But from my perspective, her attack on Obama leaves me winning either way:

If she’d had a point, then I’d have a valid attack on Obama from the left to point to.

But since she’s full of crap, I get to hear non-conservatives call Maureen Dowd a hack.

276 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 10:07:47am

re: #271 Varek Raith

This is the guy KT fell on his sword for?
Yeesh.

Wait, Killgore actually got banned?

277 Kilroy01  Aug 24, 2014 10:10:26am

re: #265 Gus

and I raise you a Churchill.

278 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 24, 2014 10:11:14am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

When you say ‘winning’, what is the goal that this helps?

279 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:11:14am

re: #271 Varek Raith

This is the guy KT fell on his sword for?
Yeesh.

Yeah, there were enough false-but-seemingly-more-respectable reasons than defending a boring racist asshole. (The boring aspect is the main one here… ;)

280 blueraven  Aug 24, 2014 10:13:12am

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

Wait, Killgore actually got banned?

No, he just slithered away.

281 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 24, 2014 10:13:22am

re: #279 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You find guys like Cumia in basically every bar.

Edit: Well, not bars in Harlem.

282 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:14:20am

re: #280 blueraven

Um…

Karma: 121,909

Killgore Trout
This user is blocked.

Registered since: Jun 26, 2005 at 12:20 pm
No. of comments posted: 100,063
No. of Pages posted: 1,077

283 Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2014 10:15:03am

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Actually, there’s an age gap there: Mitt’s sons are too old, and their own children are too young as of yet.

Seems to be a family tradition of waving the troopship tearfully from the dock.

284 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 10:15:28am

re: #282 Rightwingconspirator

Um…

Karma: 121,909

Killgore Trout
This user is blocked.

Registered since: Jun 26, 2005 at 12:20 pm
No. of comments posted: 100,063
No. of Pages posted: 1,077

Whoa, since when? I was pretty sure he’d just stopped showing up, not that the banhammer got brought down on his head.

285 jaunte  Aug 24, 2014 10:17:11am

Missouri’s Sunshine Law states law enforcement agencies must promptly provide incident reports that include among other things, “name of the victim and immediate facts and circumstances surrounding the initial report of a crime or incident.”

Devin James, a contract spokesperson hired by the City of Ferguson since Brown’s death, told Yahoo News that questions about the report’s missing information “are beyond the scope of what my team can respond to.” He referred questions to City Attorney Stephanie Karr, who didn’t immediately reply.

286 blueraven  Aug 24, 2014 10:17:11am

re: #282 Rightwingconspirator

Um…

Karma: 121,909

Killgore Trout
This user is blocked.

Registered since: Jun 26, 2005 at 12:20 pm
No. of comments posted: 100,063
No. of Pages posted: 1,077

Oh, OK thanks. Mea culpa.
Point still stands. He did it to himself, by defending low life racists. Actually, not only defending, but actively promoting.

287 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:18:51am

re: #284 Targetpractice

I have no idea and I feel kinda awkward about the post.

288 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 10:20:07am

re: #278 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

When you say ‘winning’, what is the goal that this helps?

I win by seeing Dowd called out as the hack she is because I’ve always disliked her and I like watching her catch FLAK. A subsidiary reason is that I think that Barack Obama is a better person than she is and part of me is glad the worse person is frustrated and losing.

289 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 10:20:46am

re: #285 jaunte

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If my interpretation of the law in question is correct, then they’re abusing a loophole to avoid releasing a full report, namely that they’ve 30 days after the report is filed to release it in before it becomes illegal to continue withholding it from the public. So by filing the report on the 19th, they’ve got 30 days from then before they have to comply with the FOIA requests.

290 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:21:01am

It’s actually a pity. Admittedly, his shtick became troll-like and unproductive, but, IMHO, every forum needs a “gadfly” of sorts to keep things more interesting.

291 BeachDem  Aug 24, 2014 10:21:33am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

It’s fine, LH, and I agree with you that Dowd is a hack. But from my perspective, her attack on Obama leaves me winning either way:

If she’d had a point, then I’d have a valid attack on Obama from the left to point to.

But since she’s full of crap, I get to hear non-conservatives call Maureen Dowd a hack.

Huh? Anyone with a functioning brain has been calling Maureen Dowd a hack since—forever. I’d hardly call Wonkette conservative, and they’ve been merciless in exposing Dowd’s hackiness for a good long time.

And if you look at an attack on Obama as you winning, I think you need to change your game.

292 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 10:22:16am

re: #284 Targetpractice

Whoa, since when? I was pretty sure he’d just stopped showing up, not that the banhammer got brought down on his head.

Sometimes Charles will ban someone who is not currently posting here if he finds out they are hanging out with racists in real life or online, or if they make the mistake of posting on a Stalker Site.

[Waves to the Stalkers.]

293 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 10:22:49am

re: #287 Rightwingconspirator

I have no idea and I feel kinda awkward about the post.

Can’t imagine why. No offense, but I’m not overly broken up that Killgore is gone. I know a lot of folks who were around while I was gone from ‘06-‘10 had grown fond of him and cut him some slack, but all I saw was an asshole with a good reputation that he was working hard to tarnish.

294 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 10:23:36am

re: #290 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s actually a pity. Admittedly, his shtick became troll-like and unproductive, but, IMHO, every forum needs a “gadfly” of sorts to keep things more interesting.

And I liked hearing about his crunchy/organic garden and the frogs he kept around to protect it from slugs.

295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 10:26:52am

re: #277 Kilroy01

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and I raise you a Churchill.

A famous example of a propaganda coup that backfired: the Germans publicized this shot of “Churchill the Gangster” in an attempt to defame him, instead, it became an example of his resolve to use any methods necessary to fight back.

296 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 24, 2014 10:28:41am

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

And I liked hearing about his crunchy/organic garden and the frogs he kept around to protect it from slugs.

crunchy frogs?

297 Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2014 10:28:45am
298 Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2014 10:29:04am
299 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 10:29:53am

re: #297 Charles Johnson

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“Little Green Fascist”? Yeah, that was fresh and original back in 2003.

300 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:31:16am

re: #298 Charles Johnson

Heh. He’s a Big Dumb Fascist.

301 Varek Raith  Aug 24, 2014 10:32:01am

Fascist?
I thought we were commies?
/confused

302 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:33:10am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Can’t imagine why. No offense, but I’m not overly broken up that Killgore is gone. I know a lot of folks who were around while I was gone from ‘06-‘10 had grown fond of him and cut him some slack, but all I saw was an asshole with a good reputation that he was working hard to tarnish.

Hey I could see the change in the nature of his contributions same as anyone. Just felt a little hesitation to be the guy to point it out. Heck when all that came up I had never even heard of Cumia. Looked him up. Ugh Ugh Ugly. There is a lot of the media I avoid, practically all the pundits. Most of the cable *cough* news sources. To me the whole breed and industry of pundits and punditry is a waste.

303 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 10:33:18am

re: #301 Varek Raith

Fascist?
I thought we were commies?
/confused

Depends on what day of the week it is.

304 Timothy Watson  Aug 24, 2014 10:33:20am

re: #301 Varek Raith

Fascist?
I thought we were commies?
/confused

SAME THING!!1!

305 Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2014 10:34:42am
306 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 10:35:58am

re: #302 Rightwingconspirator

Hey I could see the change in the nature of his contributions same as anyone. Just felt a little hesitation to be the guy to point it out. Heck when all that came up I had never even heard of Cumia. Looked him up. Ugh Ugh Ugly. There is a lot of the media I avoid, practically all the pundits. Most of the cable *cough* news sources. To me the whole breed and industry of pundits and punditry is a waste.

Fair enough, I meant no offense by my comments. I was willing to cut Killgore slack too when I came back, as it seemed at times he had some insightful and interesting conversations. Then OWS happened and it all went downhill from there.

307 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 10:36:12am

re: #305 Charles Johnson

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Still there.

This week, we saw the X-ray of Officer Wilson’s fractured eye socket.

308 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:37:16am

re: #307 Gus

Still there.

This week, we saw the X-ray of Officer Wilson’s fractured eye socket.

Dumb.

309 Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2014 10:37:32am

re: #304 Timothy Watson

SAME THING!!1!

Pretty close to the truth. In the minds of wingnuts, the only difference between fascists and communists is the uniforms, because they’re both “librul.” When you point out all the holes in that line of thinking, they immediately abandon it or try to argue that both are “authoritarian” and only “libruls” support authoritarianism.

310 Gus  Aug 24, 2014 10:37:36am

re: #308 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Dumb.

And dumber.

311 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:39:11am

re: #306 Targetpractice

Fair enough, I meant no offense by my comments. I was willing to cut Killgore slack too when I came back, as it seemed at times he had some insightful and interesting conversations. Then OWS happened and it all went downhill from there.

None taken my friend. OWS was a turning point, Sadly not in the ways a lot of us would have preferred.

312 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 24, 2014 10:41:00am

re: #302 Rightwingconspirator

I had to get used to the word “pundit” when I began seeing it x years ago (in English). For me “pandit” [sic] had always been an Indian wise man (that’s where the word comes from). It seemed kinda self-aggrandizing that someone would call himself a “pundit”.

313 bubba zanetti  Aug 24, 2014 10:43:09am

If Obama hates white people so much, why does he play golf?

I know, none of it makes sense anymore.

314 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 10:45:08am

re: #297 Charles Johnson

I see Little Green Fascist is still trolling for relevance

I see #smoti has learned how to use Twitter.

Edit: I wonder if he’s even aware that a search for “Dumbest Man on the Internet” brings up his name.

315 lawhawk  Aug 24, 2014 10:48:07am

re: #314 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I see #smoti has learned how to use Twitter.

Edit: I wonder if he’s even aware that a search for “Dumbest Man on the Internet” brings up his name.

Except he still can’t answer the one question. Why edit the scan if he wasn’t attempting to purposefully deceive people into thinking that this was Wilson’s scan?

316 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 10:49:37am

re: #315 lawhawk

Except he still can’t answer the one question. Why edit the scan if he wasn’t attempting to purposefully deceive people into thinking that this was Wilson’s scan?

Not can’t - won’t.

317 austin_blue  Aug 24, 2014 10:52:32am

Messy quake, but it could have been so much worse:

news.yahoo.com

318 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 10:54:08am

re: #315 lawhawk

Except he still can’t answer the one question. Why edit the scan if he wasn’t attempting to purposefully deceive people into thinking that this was Wilson’s scan?

He can’t because no such reason exists: He did that in order to push the “Honest Cop Attacked by Giant Negro in the Throes of Reefer Madness!!1”. that sort of thing is big with the kind of rejectionists who think Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have “gone wobbly” over the issues related to Ferguson.

319 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 24, 2014 10:54:16am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Can’t imagine why. No offense, but I’m not overly broken up that Killgore is gone. I know a lot of folks who were around while I was gone from ‘06-‘10 had grown fond of him and cut him some slack, but all I saw was an asshole with a good reputation that he was working hard to tarnish.

As I said the other day, he was in slow motion flounce ever since no one would freakout at the EBIL OWS!!!11ty!! Shrug. He can look for reds under his bed while listening to racist radio all he wants to now.

320 Dark_Falcon  Aug 24, 2014 11:04:08am

re: #319 William Barnett-Lewis

As I said the other day, he was in slow motion flounce ever since no one would freakout at the EBIL OWS!!!11ty!! Shrug. He can look for reds under his bed while listening to racist radio all he wants to now.

I’ve got something I’ve been waiting to share with you. I’ll post it on the next thread.

321 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 24, 2014 11:04:17am

re: #319 William Barnett-Lewis

As I said the other day, he was in slow motion flounce ever since no one would freakout at the EBIL OWS!!!11ty!! Shrug. He can look for reds under his bed while listening to racist radio all he wants to now.

I realize I’m late to this convo, but I’m almost glad KT is gone because he was abusing a Vonnegut character’s name with his war porn, sexism and concern-trolling.

322 b_sharp  Aug 24, 2014 11:05:31am

re: #269 sagehen

Perhaps Mr Cumia is unaware how many Black former-Americans live in Canada, and Sweden, and Norway…

And how much it costs to move to another country. And how much travel has been restricted for blacks in the past. And the immigration red tape necessary to follow to move to another country. And, and, and….

323 De Kolta Chair  Aug 24, 2014 2:00:35pm

re: #171 Pie-onist Overlord

MOAR FAIL

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I boycott Manischewitz, not because it’s “Jewish” but because it’s owned by Bain Capital.

324 De Kolta Chair  Aug 24, 2014 2:19:03pm

re: #301 Varek Raith

Fascist?
I thought we were commies?
/confused

Speaking of which, Fellini’s Amacord is a brilliant tragicomic examination of the social and psychological effects of living in a fascist society.

Uh, and among other things…


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