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1 prairiefire  Feb 1, 2015 11:52:34am

Boom!

2 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 11:56:51am

Vaccination works for the majority of healthy people and there are consequences when kids don’t get them.

I haven’t seen measles for almost 60 years. If there had been a varicella vaccine when my kids were small, they would have received it; now, one of my sons has to hope he doesn’t get shingles since they had chicken pox as toddlers. It was the only childhood disease they contracted.

3 dholmes32  Feb 1, 2015 11:57:41am

My doctor is a pediatrician and internal medicine specialist. She is huge on vaccines. I asked her once what she’d do if the parents of a child patient were against vaccination. “I don’t think they’d work out here,” she said primly.

4 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 11:58:40am

He’s right…but it seems to no longer matter. He will get attacked for his stance by the ignorant idiot antivaxers no matter what he says.

I’m not a twitter user. Has he been attacked a million times yet?

5 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 12:01:01pm

re: #4 ObserverArt

He’s right…but it seems to no longer matter. He will get attacked for his stance by the ignorant idiot antivaxers no matter what he says.

I’m not a twitter user. Has he been attacked a million times yet?

I think he is doing just fine. Those are pretty big numbers.
4,336 RETWEETS 3,618 FAVORITES

6 #FergusonFireside  Feb 1, 2015 12:01:25pm

I like his statement about not adhering to the parent’s imagined schedule of vaccs. The girls in my office have a delayed schedule. Very common misconception.

7 dholmes32  Feb 1, 2015 12:02:16pm

re: #2 Justanotherhuman

Shingles are EVIL. Almost three years ago I had an outbreak on my lower right leg. The site was about the size of a quarter. It affected the sciatic nerve and hurt like hell. Initially I had no idea what it was (thought it was just some sort of rash or skin irritation) and by the time I figured out what it was, it was too late for treatment by the time I went to the aforementioned doctor. I rubbed ointment with capsaicin on the site to cut the pain. For weeks I wore either skirts or pants made out of cotton sheeting (even twill was simply too much). Never again. *shudder*

8 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 12:03:08pm

re: #5 Rightwingconspirator

I think he is doing just fine. Those are pretty big numbers.
4,336 RETWEETS 3,618 FAVORITES

Good!

9 dog philosopher  Feb 1, 2015 12:06:16pm

this year i intend to conform more to being a Normal American by viewing the super bowl religious ceremony

my question is, do i need to consume beer and pizza to obtain the spiritual benefit?

10 lawhawk  Feb 1, 2015 12:06:41pm

re: #2 Justanotherhuman

Had chicken pox when I was 17. It was awful, though I was able to avoid scratching/itching as much as possible. If there was a vaccine, I would have demanded it. Now, there’s a vaccine, and if you can prevent it, damn straight you should get it.

And I’ll be risking shingles down the line too. Not looking forward to that (though I will be able to get a vaccine for that now too).

11 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 1, 2015 12:07:12pm

re: #5 Rightwingconspirator

I think he is doing just fine. Those are pretty big numbers.
4,336 RETWEETS 3,618 FAVORITES

How many of those are directed at the people who need to see them? Lots of people patting themselves on the back while passing zingers back and forth, meanwhile the anti-vaxxers are just ignoring you.

12 Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2015 12:07:37pm

re: #9 dog philosopher

this year i intend to conform more to being a Normal American by viewing the super bowl religious ceremony

my question is, do i need to consume beer and pizza to obtain the spiritual benefit?

Yes.

13 Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2015 12:08:06pm

re: #10 lawhawk

Had chicken pox when I was 17. It was awful, though I was able to avoid scratching/itching as much as possible. If there was a vaccine, I would have demanded it. Now, there’s a vaccine, and if you can prevent it, damn straight you should get it.

And I’ll be risking shingles down the line too. Not looking forward to that (though I will be able to get a vaccine for that now too).

Chickenpox vaccine is very important for people who didn’t get chickenpox as a kid too, an adult getting chickenpox can be very dangerous.

14 lawhawk  Feb 1, 2015 12:08:16pm

re: #9 dog philosopher

this year i intend to conform more to being a Normal American by viewing the super bowl religious ceremony

my question is, do i need to consume beer and pizza to obtain the spiritual benefit?

Wings. It is required consumption, along with the beer and chili. Pizza is part of the agnostic super bowl watchers. ///

15 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:10:00pm

re: #7 dholmes32

Shingles hit me on a Saturday morning about 10 years ago while I was at work. I managed to get to a doctor late that same afternoon and get the treatment started, but the rash (the entire upper right quadrant of my torso, front and back) lasted for about a month, and the residual nerve pain in my right arm, all the way to my fingertips, lingered for a year.

You are so correct…shingles are evil.

16 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 12:10:04pm

re: #8 ObserverArt

And unless you are a celebrity or known blogger it’s harder. Charles gets big numbers. I have a very small twitter footprint, maybe 160 followers. Thanks to my friends around here I made 5000+ “Impressions”. But only a couple retweets or favorites in the same period. Including my “Thanks Mom” tweet.

This guy by dint of professional credential and a really sharp pen might have done more to help push back than any other five people online. Well done.

17 Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2015 12:10:25pm

This is an important day in Lower Alabama, the beginning of the 2015 BBQ season. Last weekend was the end of the 2014 BBQ season. There will also be a football game on TV, but it wll not involve ‘Bama or Auburn.

18 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 12:11:49pm

Here’s a pretty good article from last year, although I think the % for CA residents not being vaccinated is now around 91% from a TV report seen last week.

The Herd Mentality Of The Anti-Vaxxer Movement

io9.com

“It’s not just the myth about autism that’s driving down vaccination rates. Many parents believe that as long as most other children are vaccinated, their kids won’t get sick. It’s a faulty interpretation of “herd immunity” — and it’s prompting families to prioritize exaggerated, imagined risks over actual benefits.”

More

19 Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2015 12:12:50pm

I turned Sixty in December. In the 50’s and 60’s I HAD all these childhood diseases…. I was immunized for polio and grew up with friends that were afflicted by it.

Next week I go to the Dr to get another shot. This to offset the possibility of getting an offshoot from having chickenpox (Herpes Zoster?).

I hear the Shingles sucks. I’ll get the shot thank you. I trust the science.

20 #FergusonFireside  Feb 1, 2015 12:12:54pm

re: #9 dog philosopher

this year i intend to conform more to being a Normal American by viewing the super bowl religious ceremony

my question is, do i need to consume beer and pizza to obtain the spiritual benefit?

OT, just found this via twitter - The Last Man to know the result of the SB

21 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:12:59pm

Shingles are evil in another way:

Shingles cannot be passed from one person to another. However, the virus that causes shingles, the varicella zoster virus, can be spread from a person with active shingles to another person who has never had chickenpox. In such cases, the person exposed to the virus might develop chickenpox, but they would not develop shingles.

cdc.gov

22 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 1, 2015 12:13:59pm

Whatever their intentions, the antivaxers are mass killers and their doctrine is murderous bullshit.
I want to see a lot more physicians and other practitioners get right in their faces about it, like this Dr. Ginsberg has.

23 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 12:15:17pm

re: #11 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

How many of those are directed at the people who need to see them? Lots of people patting themselves on the back while passing zingers back and forth, meanwhile the anti-vaxxers are just ignoring you.

I use what I can, as best I can.

24 CuriousLurker  Feb 1, 2015 12:15:52pm

Wow, just finished cleaning up my Twitter timeline, I’d had Tweedeck closed since early yesterday and opened it just now to see my notifications filled with an avalanche of bad crazy—everything from raging wingnuts to moonbat conspiracy theorists. It must’ve been my tweet of the “Death and The Anti-Vaxxer” post last night. I had to block about half a dozen crazies. O_o

25 electrotek  Feb 1, 2015 12:18:53pm

Can we deport all the anti-vaxxers to Pakistan so they can join their brothers in arm in killing workers who administer vaccines, the Pakistani Taliban?

26 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 12:20:25pm

I can’t imagine anyone in their right mind taking medical advice from a celebrity—any kind of medical or child rearing advice from them or any “online mommy”, either. They’re some of the worst.

Just because you think someone is your BFF online doesn’t mean they have you or your child’s interest at heart. Listen to your physician first. But even then, taking them to the dr can be risky (see below).

This is what anti-vaxxers do, not only to their own children, but to others’ kids.

OUTRAGED CA MOM SAYS ANTI-VAXXERS PUT HER BABY IN QUARANTINE

abc7news.com

(snip)

“Livia — who is 6 months old and too young to be vaccinated — isn’t sick, but they say they’ve feared the worst.

“We were really freaking out and really worried,” Jennifer Simon said. “I’m angry. I was upset that someone who had made a choice that they felt was a personal choice that they could make for their child had endangered my child.”

“There’s no word on how many other children and their families were impacted by the doctor’s office incident, but nine infants in the county where the Simons’ live are currently in quarantine, according to an Alameda County spokesperson.” More

27 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 12:21:33pm
28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:21:54pm

Some O/T weather heads up:

29 PhillyPretzel  Feb 1, 2015 12:24:04pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

So far it is not that bad for Philly. weather.gov

30 OhNoZombies!  Feb 1, 2015 12:24:21pm

I wish they had a chickenpox vaccine when I was 18.
I got them about a month before my senior prom.
Since my dress was sleeveless, I wore long black hooker-gloves to hide my healing spots.
Needless to say, my boys were vaccinated.

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:25:27pm

re: #27 Rightwingconspirator

Something I’ve noticed within the past year or so, some of my FB friends who have in the past claimed that their children are autistic because of vaccines have changed the terminology in light of Dr Wakefield’s research being debunked.
The new term is “vaccine injured” instead of “autism”.

O_o

32 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 12:26:03pm
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Tom Frieden on Sunday-
“We are very concerned by the growing number of people who are susceptible to measles, and the possibility that we could have a large outbreak in this country as a result,” Frieden said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”
There are at least 102 reported cases in 14 states, according to the CDC. Frieden said that the U.S. is “likely to see more cases.”

But he said the best way to prevent the spread of measles was vaccination.

thehill.com

33 A Cranky One  Feb 1, 2015 12:26:46pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

Live near Chicago, just cleared over a foot of snow from my driveway but it’s filling up again quickly.

34 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:27:01pm

re: #29 PhillyPretzel

So far it is not that bad for Philly. weather.gov

We’ve just got rain here in the Ohio River Valley, instead of the sleet/freezing rain/wintry mix.

Currently 40F and I like it just fine.

35 electrotek  Feb 1, 2015 12:28:10pm

The usual anti-vaxxers from my experience are usually the ones who brag about eating “natural” foods, do yoga, and drink coconut water yet get shit-faced drunk and snort coke on a regular basis.

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:29:20pm

re: #32 Rightwingconspirator

Pretty sure I got the MMR when I was a kid, but I’ve had the measles several times (first at about age 4 or 5—that’s the one that severely impacted my sight and hearing—the last time in my 20s).

Apparently, I’m one of those outliers who never got immunity.

37 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 12:29:35pm

re: #27 Rightwingconspirator

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That is what I was getting at with my questions for Jenny McCarthy in the last thread.

38 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 12:30:01pm

UVa. Issues Alert after Mumps Confirmed

nbcwashington.com

It’s not just measles we have to worry about. Or small kids.

39 BeachDem  Feb 1, 2015 12:30:27pm

Never had chicken pox, but did have shingles in my early 20s (doctor was pretty surprised—hadn’t seen it anybody that age before—remember, this was back when dinosaurs roamed the earth!)

Need to go to the doc to see if I need the shingles shot—kind of confused. Also, as I travel for work quite a bit, need to see about measles situation.

It truly is as if we’ve stepped back in time—what is wrong with these idiot anti-vaxxers?

40 BeachDem  Feb 1, 2015 12:31:14pm

re: #35 electrotek

The usual anti-vaxxers from my experience are usually the ones who brag about eating “natural” foods, do yoga, and drink coconut water yet get shit-faced drunk and snort coke on a regular basis.

And don’t forget the chiropractic—they think anything natural foods can’t handle, chiropractic will—I just don’t get it.

41 meteor  Feb 1, 2015 12:32:25pm

I had mumps once, a year before the schools made the vaccination mandatory. I remember having my head wrapped up. It’s exactly like you used to see in the old cartoons. That was some painful shit. The only good things that came out of it were staying home, listening to the radio, and reading. Oh, and I felt like I was going to die.

I want to punch these idiots today.

42 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 1, 2015 12:32:38pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something I’ve noticed within the past year or so, some of my FB friends who have in the past claimed that their children are autistic because of vaccines have changed the terminology in light of Dr Wakefield’s research being debunked.
The new term is “vaccine injured” instead of “autism”.

O_o

Reluctance to admit that they allowed themselves to be suckered and hoaxed into acting like dangerous idiots.

43 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:32:49pm

re: #39 BeachDem

Never had chicken pox, but did have shingles in my early 20s (doctor was pretty surprised—hadn’t seen it anybody that age before—remember, this was back when dinosaurs roamed the earth!)

Need to go to the doc to see if I need the shingles shot—kind of confused. Also, as I travel for work quite a bit, need to see about measles situation.

It truly is as if we’ve stepped back in time—what is wrong with these idiot anti-vaxxers?

You could have had mild case of chicken pox and your parents not realize it, mistaking it for one of the other childhood crud diseases.
All of my siblings had the obvious pox on their skin. Mine were inside my mouth, nose and throat.

44 electrotek  Feb 1, 2015 12:33:11pm

re: #40 BeachDem

And they usually share crap stories found on kook sites like “NaturalNews”, I’m so glad I’ve bounced off from Facebook because I got fed up with these idiots who brag about their “natural” lifestyle but I usually see them snorting lines of coke at afterparties.

45 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2015 12:33:43pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some O/T weather heads up:

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We’re getting pounded in Detroit too.

I’ll work from home tomorrow.

46 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 12:34:51pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something I’ve noticed within the past year or so, some of my FB friends who have in the past claimed that their children are autistic because of vaccines have changed the terminology in light of Dr Wakefield’s research being debunked.
The new term is “vaccine injured” instead of “autism”.

O_o

And so what the hell do they mean by that? I’m sure there is some AMA definition that everyone can use.

And how they hell do you go from “my kid is autistic” to “vaccine injured” any way? If your kid wasn’t autistic then you were flat outlying about that Ms. Munchausen, or you are the ‘sick’ one.

47 BeachDem  Feb 1, 2015 12:36:28pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

You could have had mild case of chicken pox and your parents not realize it, mistaking it for one of the other childhood crud diseases.
All of my siblings had the obvious pox on their skin. Mine were inside my mouth, nose and throat.

Nope, I don’t think so—my mother exposed me to every kid who ever had chicken pox so I would get them while I was young, and monitored it very closely.

I had measles, German measles and scarlet fever, but no mumps or chicken pox.

48 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:36:45pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

We’re getting pounded in Detroit too.

I’ll work from home tomorrow.

MrBWS will have a sad because I put my foot down and make him tell his foreman that he would NOT be showing up for work on Monday.
I scheduled a doctor appointment for him for tomorrow afetrnoon because his manflu (which he ignored and DID NOT GET THE VACCINE so as to avoid it this year) has developed into some severe bronchitis (it was the coughing up blood that finally got his attention…jeebus…)

49 De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2015 12:37:06pm
Chris Christie brings his Owner’s Luxury Box Tour to London.
50 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 12:37:12pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

And so what the hell do they mean by that? I’m sure there is some AMA definition that everyone can use.

And how they hell do you go from “my kid is autistic” to “vaccine injured” any way? If your kid wasn’t autistic then you were flat outlying about that Ms. Munchausen, or you are the ‘sick’ one.

Timing.

51 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 12:37:29pm

re: #44 electrotek

And they usually share crap stories found on kook sites like “NaturalNews”, I’m so glad I’ve bounced off from Facebook because I got fed up with these idiots who brag about their “natural” lifestyle but I usually see them snorting lines of coke at afterparties.

Well, cocaine is a “natural” product (like pot), according to them, but of course they totally ignore the mfg process and cutting agents just so they can get high.

There’s a big difference between chewing coca leaves in high altitudes because you need the extra energy to get up and down mountains while working, and putting something like a mfg’d and cut product sold on the street up your nose just to get high.

52 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 12:39:10pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’ve just got rain here in the Ohio River Valley, instead of the sleet/freezing rain/wintry mix.

Currently 40F and I like it just fine.

In Columbus…we are right on that thin line, 37° with some sleet reported. Any snow we got last night is now slush. It does appear we will escape the big snow, but we will see what happens overnight.

53 CuriousLurker  Feb 1, 2015 12:39:17pm

re: #41 meteor

I had mumps once, a year before the schools made the vaccination mandatory. I remember having my head wrapped up. It’s exactly like you used to see in the old cartoons. That was some painful shit. The only good things that came out of it were staying home, listening to the radio, and reading. Oh, and I felt like I was going to die.

I want to punch these idiots today.

I had mumps as a little kid too—you’re right, it’s painful. My older brother had it and it dropped on him. You wanna talk about some pain… man, just thinking about how that must’ve felt… *shudder* It also left him wondering if he’d ever be able to father any children (he did).

54 Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2015 12:39:25pm

I had all the vaccines as a kid, but I do dimly remember having chickenpox. Not fun. Calamine lotion…..I recall that.

Still, chickenpox is a pretty typical childhood disease. Of course, when I was a kiddie, tonsillectomies were also pretty much mandatory. I had mine out between the ages of 5 and 6, during summer vacation.

Ice cream……ice cream for breakfast, lunch and dinner. :)

55 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 12:40:38pm

re: #37 ObserverArt

That is what I was getting at with my questions for Jenny McCarthy in the last thread.

I’m hoping this will embarrass at least some of these people into moving on to some more reasonable cause like animals. Or maybe vote in the next mid term.

56 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:40:45pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

And so what the hell do they mean by that? I’m sure there is some AMA definition that everyone can use.

And how they hell do you go from “my kid is autistic” to “vaccine injured” any way? If your kid wasn’t autistic then you were flat outlying about that Ms. Munchausen, or you are the ‘sick’ one.

One of them in particular is a medical professional and has been “chelating” her kids (google “chelation therapy”—yikes!), loads them with all sorts of natural supplements (she got pissed off when the school refused to let her kids eat the huge handful of supplements during the school day), and soaks their medications to remove the colored hard coating on the pills.

57 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 12:42:42pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of them in particular is a medical professional and has been “chelating” her kids (google “chelation therapy—yikes!), loads them with all sorts of natural supplements (she got pissed off when the school refused to let her kids eat the huge handful of supplements during the school day), and soaks their medications to remove the colored hard coating on the pills.

Oh, for chrissakes. What kind of “medical professional”, I wonder? A Rolfing masseuse?

58 #FergusonFireside  Feb 1, 2015 12:43:18pm

re: #54 Dr Lizardo

I had all the vaccines as a kid, but I do dimly remember having chickenpox. Not fun. Calamine lotion…..I recall that.

Still, chickenpox is a pretty typical childhood disease. Of course, when I was a kiddie, tonsillectomies were also pretty much mandatory. I had mine out between the ages of 5 and 6, during summer vacation.

Ice cream……ice cream for breakfast, lunch and dinner. :)

Funny memory, when I had my tonsils out the priest came and visited me in the hospital. It scared the shit out of me.

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:43:42pm

re: #57 Justanotherhuman

Oh, for chrissakes. What kind of “medical professional”, I wonder? A Rolfing masseuse?

pretty sure you know who it is, but I’m not going to name any names.

60 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 12:44:18pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure you know who it is, but I’m not going to name any names.

Don’t know. Need name.

61 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 12:44:35pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of them in particular is a medical professional and has been “chelating” her kids (google “chelation therapy”—yikes!), loads them with all sorts of natural supplements (she got pissed off when the school refused to let her kids eat the huge handful of supplements during the school day), and soaks their medications to remove the colored hard coating on the pills.

Do they wear the aluminum foil headgear to keep out the magnetic waves?

62 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 12:45:19pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

Do they wear the aluminum foil headgear to keep out the magnetic waves?

How do they do that when they’re wearing copper bracelets?

63 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 12:45:31pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of them in particular is a medical professional and has been “chelating” her kids (google “chelation therapy—yikes!), loads them with all sorts of natural supplements (she got pissed off when the school refused to let her kids eat the huge handful of supplements during the school day), and soaks their medications to remove the colored hard coating on the pills.

heh…Show them this guy-took so much dissolved silver he turned his skin blue.

today.com

64 OhNoZombies!  Feb 1, 2015 12:46:00pm

From Wikipedia:

Chelation therapy must be administered with care as it has a number of possible side effects, including death.[3] In response to increasing use of chelation therapy as alternative medicine and in circumstances in which the therapy should not be used in conventional medicine, various health organizations have confirmed that medical evidence does not support the effectiveness of chelation therapy for any purpose other than the treatment of heavy metal poisoning.[3] Over-the-counter chelation products are not approved for sale in the United States.[4]

Nice.
//

65 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:46:22pm

re: #60 b_sharp

Don’t know. Need name.

not you, but justanotherhuman would know who that person is.

66 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:48:23pm

re: #64 OhNoZombies!

yep “heavy metals”.
She insists that the vaccines her kids were given were loaded with mercury.

67 Kaessa  Feb 1, 2015 12:49:03pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something I’ve noticed within the past year or so, some of my FB friends who have in the past claimed that their children are autistic because of vaccines have changed the terminology in light of Dr Wakefield’s research being debunked.
The new term is “vaccine injured” instead of “autism”.

O_o

Some idiot relative of mine on FB this morning was going on about how kids with peanut allergies are “vaccine injured”, and how she sees SO MANY “vaccine injured” children at her practice. She’s a chiropractor.

68 electrotek  Feb 1, 2015 12:49:43pm

re: #67 Kaessa

And yet these “chiropractors” make so much money off people’s ignorance. Fucking hell

69 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 12:50:46pm

re: #67 Kaessa

Some idiot relative of mine on FB this morning was going on about how kids with peanut allergies are “vaccine injured”, and how she sees SO MANY “vaccine injured” children at her practice. She’s a chiropractor.

Of course she is…

70 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 12:50:52pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

Do they wear the aluminum foil headgear to keep out the magnetic waves?

Was just thinking about that with copper bracelets or those copperfit elastic bandages with copper woven in.

Human Lightning Rod. Coming soon from DC Comics, //

71 electrotek  Feb 1, 2015 12:51:02pm

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

Well, cocaine is a “natural” product (like pot), according to them, but of course they totally ignore the mfg process and cutting agents just so they can get high.

There’s a big difference between chewing coca leaves in high altitudes because you need the extra energy to get up and down mountains while working, and putting something like a mfg’d and cut product sold on the street up your nose just to get high.

Pretty much. And they consider themselves “liberal” too, on top of it.

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 1, 2015 12:51:20pm

re: #67 Kaessa

Some idiot relative of mine on FB this morning was going on about how kids with peanut allergies are “vaccine injured”, and how she sees SO MANY “vaccine injured” children at her practice. She’s a chiropractor.

Local environment skewing the perceived commonality of the condition.

73 Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2015 12:53:27pm

re: #58 #FergusonFireside

Funny memory, when I had my tonsils out the priest came and visited me in the hospital. It scared the shit out of me.

LOLOL

Yeah, that’d scare me too! “Oh shit….it’s the Last RItes!!”

74 OhNoZombies!  Feb 1, 2015 12:54:23pm

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

Was just thinking about that with copper bracelets or those copperfit elastic bandages with copper woven in.

Human Lightning Rod.

Perfect for folks with aches and pains on the golf course!
//

75 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 12:57:09pm

So much snake oil, so little time.

76 BeachDem  Feb 1, 2015 12:57:34pm

re: #52 ObserverArt

In Columbus…we are right on that thin line, 37° with some sleet reported. Any snow we got last night is now slush. It does appear we will escape the big snow, but we will see what happens overnight.

And here at the beach it’s 63 and sunny—re-affirming my reason for leaving Columbus for more southern climes (even if the politics are really scary.)

77 Teukka  Feb 1, 2015 12:57:51pm

Just thinking out loud here, don’t take me (too) seriously…

So antivaxxers seem to be into all sorts of conspiracy theories with regard to vaccines, and frankly, the truth seems pretty boring when side to side with the theories.

So the thought struck me: Why not wrap the truth in some tinfoil and see if they bite?

Given the consequences of lack of vaccination, namely pandemics of bad proportions and death and disablement in their wake, the purpose of a such a notional conspiracy could be population control or decrease, or making money off of caskets and various aids.

But what would be a believable villain / evil mastermind in such a theory?

78 JDRhoades  Feb 1, 2015 12:59:33pm

The only anti-vaxxers I know personally are people with autistic children who are convinced that the vaccines were to blame.

Doesn’t make them any less wrong, of course, but it makes it harder for me to hate them.

79 Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2015 1:00:42pm

re: #38 Justanotherhuman

UVa. Issues Alert after Mumps Confirmed

nbcwashington.com

It’s not just measles we have to worry about. Or small kids.

In Virginia, all public university students are supposed to complete a vaccination certification sheet before the start of their second semester or sign a thing, under the penalties of perjury, that they take a religious exemption to vaccination.
leg1.state.va.us

80 Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2015 1:01:18pm

re: #78 JDRhoades

The only anti-vaxxers I know personally are people with autistic children who are convinced that the vaccines were to blame.

Doesn’t make them any less wrong, of course, but it makes it harder for me to hate them.

One anti-vaxxer of my acquaintance has no kids, but she’s really big on CT’s, and especially that whole chemtrail nonsense.

81 prairiefire  Feb 1, 2015 1:01:26pm

re: #76 BeachDem

Carolina coastal lands, so beautiful. Talk to the Egrets, not the people, their politics are more liberal./

82 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:01:53pm

re: #78 JDRhoades

The only anti-vaxxers I know personally are people with autistic children who are convinced that the vaccines were to blame.

Doesn’t make them any less wrong, of course, but it makes it harder for me to hate them.

There is more mercury in lakes and rivers than ever was in vaccines.

I know I wouldn’t eat any fish out of the local lake here that has both a coal plant and a nuclear plant on it. Or swim in it. Or even want to boat in it, or have that water touch me in any fashion.

83 aagcobb  Feb 1, 2015 1:03:04pm

re: #77 Teukka

Just thinking out loud here, don’t take me (too) seriously…

So antivaxxers seem to be into all sorts of conspiracy theories with regard to vaccines, and frankly, the truth seems pretty boring when side to side with the theories.

So the thought struck me: Why not wrap the truth in some tinfoil and see if they bite?

Given the consequences of lack of vaccination, namely pandemics of bad proportions and death and disablement in their wake, the purpose of a such a notional conspiracy could be population control or decrease, or making money off of caskets and various aids.

But what would be a believable villain / evil mastermind in such a theory?

Here’s a real conspiracy theory with a real villain, Andrew Wakefield. He invented the link between autism and vaccines so that he could sell diagnostic tests for a condition he invented. The man is pure evil.

84 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:03:25pm

re: #79 Timothy Watson

In Virginia, all public university students are supposed to complete a vaccination certification sheet before the start of their second semester or sign a thing, under the penalties of perjury, that they take a religious exemption to vaccination.
leg1.state.va.us

Fucking “religious exemptions” should not be allowed. These are some of the people spreading disease.

Maybe people who don’t want to live by the rules all of us live by should be put on some island—like Greenland. : )

85 aagcobb  Feb 1, 2015 1:05:48pm

re: #84 Justanotherhuman

Fucking “religious exemptions” should not be allowed. These are some of the people spreading disease.

Maybe people who don’t want to live by the rules all of us live by should be put on some island—like Greenland. : )

The state with the highest vaccination rate is, believe it or not, Mississippi, becuase it and W.V. are the only states which don’t provide exemptions from vaccination except for medical necessity. Only about a dozen kids qualify for that.

86 JDRhoades  Feb 1, 2015 1:11:01pm

Some people’s religion requires them to kill all non believers (at least according to the wingnuts). Do they get a religious exemption from the murder laws?

87 OhNoZombies!  Feb 1, 2015 1:11:18pm

What does it mean when you start to think of 34 degrees as sweatshirt weather?
I mean it’s been snowing heavily all day, but as long as it stays above, oh, 15 F, I’m good.

88 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:11:36pm

re: #85 aagcobb

“Patient(s) Zero”.

Also,

“Twenty states allow exemptions to children whose parents have philosophical or personal belief objections to vaccination. In most cases, parents must file a one-time or annual form with a school district attesting to a personal objection to vaccination. In states with all three types of exemptions, personal belief exemptions tend to be most common. And, in states that allow philosophical and personal exemptions from vaccination requirements, such exemptions increased from 0.99 to 2.45% between 1991 and 2004.

“A Washington state law that took effect in July 2011 requires that parents seeking vaccination exemptions for their children discuss the benefits and risks of vaccination with a health care provider. The state allows medical, religious, and personal belief exemptions, and has an overall exemption rate of 6%.”

historyofvaccines.org

89 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 1, 2015 1:12:13pm

re: #77 Teukka

Just thinking out loud here, don’t take me (too) seriously…

So antivaxxers seem to be into all sorts of conspiracy theories with regard to vaccines, and frankly, the truth seems pretty boring when side to side with the theories.

So the thought struck me: Why not wrap the truth in some tinfoil and see if they bite?

Given the consequences of lack of vaccination, namely pandemics of bad proportions and death and disablement in their wake, the purpose of a such a notional conspiracy could be population control or decrease, or making money off of caskets and various aids.

But what would be a believable villain / evil mastermind in such a theory?

The quack medicine industry is huge and has lots of politician-whores in its pockets. It is also closely aligned with various religious movements, including (though obviously not limited to) Christian fundamentalism. Every evangelical charlatan seems to have a line of supplements and alternate healthcare products to go with his quack theology.

90 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 1:13:07pm
91 Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2015 1:13:55pm

re: #89 Shiplord Kirel

The quack medicine industry is huge and has lots of politician-whores in its pockets. It is also closely aligned with various religious movements, including (though obviously not limited to) Christian fundamentalism. Every evangelical charlatan seems to have a line of supplements and alternate healthcare products to go with his quack theology.

Not just them, but look at Alex Jones or Jeff Rense; their websites peddle all manner of “supplements” and alt-healthcare remedies. And they’re making a bundle off it, to be sure.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 1:14:33pm

re: #90 klystron

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Methinks that Dad doesn’t understand the definition of “chemicals”…

93 Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2015 1:14:49pm

re: #90 klystron

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What a prick.

94 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:15:18pm

re: #90 klystron

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He probably never considered it could be his own genes that caused his child’s leukemia. Idiot.

95 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 1:15:40pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

Methinks that Dad doesn’t understand the definition of “chemicals”…

Someone should let him know that since his child consumes food, they are no longer “pure”.

96 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 1:16:47pm

re: #94 Justanotherhuman

He probably never considered it could be his own genes that caused his child’s leukemia. Idiot.

I don’t think it’s his kid who has leukemia. I think he’s talking about another child with leukemia and how that sucks for them but it’s not his responsibility to make sure his child doesn’t give them a preventable disease.

He is an idiot, I’ll agree to that.

97 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:17:26pm

re: #96 klystron

I don’t think it’s his kid who has leukemia. I think he’s talking about another child with leukemia and how that sucks for them but it’s not his responsibility to make sure his child doesn’t give them a preventable disease.

He is an idiot, I’ll agree to that.

Oh, sorry; read that wrong, then. : )

98 OhNoZombies!  Feb 1, 2015 1:17:32pm

re: #90 klystron

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I hope he remembers that shit if, heaven forbid, the shoe is on the other foot, and it’s his child that is gravely ill.
When will people realize that Karma is a motherf***er?

99 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 1:18:15pm

re: #97 Justanotherhuman

Oh, sorry; read that wrong, then. : )

No worries. The sentence structure in that snippet is a little unclear.

100 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 1:18:56pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep “heavy metals”.
She insists that the vaccines her kids were given were loaded with mercury.

Shame she doesn’t realize there are different compounds containing mercury and the characteristics of chemicals change as the molecule changes.

101 aagcobb  Feb 1, 2015 1:19:10pm

re: #98 OhNoZombies!

I hope he remembers that shit if, heaven forbid, the shoe is on the other foot, and it’s his child that is gravely ill.
When will people realize that Karma is a motherf***er?

He is so delusional, he’ll blame it on the vaccines other kids took.

102 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 1:19:47pm

His flight back is currently over Manitoba. You might be able to wave at it soon, b_sharp.

Apparently he has a pretty nasty sinus headache but at least there have been no medical diversions of the plane yet so fingers crossed.

103 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:19:54pm

re: #99 klystron

No worries. The sentence structure in that snippet is a little unclear.

And that narcissist is really projecting a lot on his kid, too, poor little thing.

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 1:20:42pm

re: #90 klystron

DIHYDROUS OXIDE!!11!!!

105 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 1:21:04pm

re: #102 klystron

His flight back is currently over Manitoba. You might be able to wave at it soon, b_sharp.

Apparently he has a pretty nasty sinus headache but at least there have been no medical diversions of the plane yet so fingers crossed.

Waving now.

106 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 1:21:51pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

DIHYDROUS OXIDE!!11!!!

It feels like I should make a snarky Dr. Strangelove reference here but I’ve only seen the movie once and my brain is fuzzy this morning afternoon.

107 aagcobb  Feb 1, 2015 1:22:13pm

BTW, Mike Huckabee can’t be a homophobe because he has homosexual friends.//

108 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 1, 2015 1:22:54pm

re: #77 Teukka

Just thinking out loud here, don’t take me (too) seriously…

So antivaxxers seem to be into all sorts of conspiracy theories with regard to vaccines, and frankly, the truth seems pretty boring when side to side with the theories.

So the thought struck me: Why not wrap the truth in some tinfoil and see if they bite?

Given the consequences of lack of vaccination, namely pandemics of bad proportions and death and disablement in their wake, the purpose of a such a notional conspiracy could be population control or decrease, or making money off of caskets and various aids.

But what would be a believable villain / evil mastermind in such a theory?

Obama. Of course.

109 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 1, 2015 1:23:18pm

Has anyone told the yuppie/dudebro/lepertarian faction of the antivaxers that gold is a heavy metal? True, it’s pretty much non-reactive but they have no concept of that and would probably regard it as scientific nonsense concocted to gain grants if they did.

110 aagcobb  Feb 1, 2015 1:23:21pm

re: #106 klystron

It feels like I should make a snarky Dr. Strangelove reference here but I’ve only seen the movie once and my brain is fuzzy this morning afternoon.

His children’s precious bodily fluids have not been corrupted.

111 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:25:46pm

If Dr.Wolfson, the cardiologist, has that kind of irresponsible take on vaccinations and other people’s kids, why would anyone go to see him as a patient?

Obviously, he wouldn’t give a shit if you lived or died.

112 #FergusonFireside  Feb 1, 2015 1:26:33pm

Ship is right

113 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 1, 2015 1:26:45pm

re: #110 aagcobb

His children’s precious bodily fluids have not been corrupted.

Except for that flouride in the ice cream.

114 Tigger2  Feb 1, 2015 1:27:08pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some O/T weather heads up:

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The bottom line of that winter storm is about 50 miles north of where I live. Hope it stays 50 miles north.

115 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 1, 2015 1:27:33pm

re: #112 #FergusonFireside

Ship is right

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So someone wished a pox upon their house - and it got the children?

116 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 1:29:22pm

re: #112 #FergusonFireside

Ship is right

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Old story from 2013, but still very much relevant.

117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 1:29:51pm

Sarah Palin will not be pleased:

118 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:30:15pm

re: #112 #FergusonFireside

Ship is right

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Well, that was in 2013, but the thrust is correct.

And she’s the daughter of Kenneth Copeland, another snake oil salesman (who started out as a pop singer).

119 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:31:07pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sarah Palin will not be pleased:

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Wow, she really must have pissed off Ailes when she got fired.

120 #FergusonFireside  Feb 1, 2015 1:31:57pm

This #lastman contest is pretty damn funny.

Avoid the KNOWLEDGE

121 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:33:11pm

re: #120 #FergusonFireside

This #lastman contest is pretty damn funny.

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Avoid the KNOWLEDGE

She could have wasted more time by spackling the holes in the wall…

122 Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2015 1:36:30pm

I am debating on whether I should bother watching the Superbowl.

(I needed some background noise, so I am “rewatching” Southland.)

123 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:40:56pm

Well, I should have known NC would have this damned “religious” exemption. I can understand a medical exemption, which seems more stringent, but not a religious exemption which only requires a statement from the parent, with no verification by the religious org to which they belong.

immunize.nc.gov

124 Lidane  Feb 1, 2015 1:41:21pm

re: #9 dog philosopher

my question is, do i need to consume beer and pizza to obtain the spiritual benefit?

I have pizza, but no beer. Do I pass muster?

I may not have beer, but I have the other national American drink — soda. And not a diet one, either. The real, sugar laden, caffeinated, carbonated deal. I’ll make up for it with tons of water the rest of the week.

125 electrotek  Feb 1, 2015 1:41:44pm

Obama is drinking beer right now on NBC, how much longer before wingnuts will continue to classify him as a Muslim?

126 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:42:32pm

re: #125 electrotek

Obama is drinking beer right now on NBC, how much longer before wingnuts will continue to classify him as a Muslim?

They’ll just switch to, “Obama is a drunk.”

127 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 1:43:35pm

re: #125 electrotek

Obama is drinking beer right now on NBC, how much longer before wingnuts will continue to classify him as a Muslim?

He’s been seen drinking beer in public before this. It makes no difference to them.

128 gwangung  Feb 1, 2015 1:43:49pm

re: #124 Lidane

I have pizza, but no beer. Do I pass muster?

Pizza ALWAYS passes muster.

Bonus points for multiple toppings.

129 Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2015 1:43:56pm

re: #125 electrotek

Obama is drinking beer right now on NBC, how much longer before wingnuts will continue to classify him as a Muslim?

TAQIYYA!!1!

130 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2015 1:44:06pm

re: #118 Justanotherhuman

Well, that was in 2013, but the thrust is correct.

And she’s the daughter of Kenneth Copeland, another snake oil salesman (who started out as a pop singer).

The church has reversed its position and is now pro-vaccine.

131 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:44:53pm
132 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2015 1:45:13pm

re: #125 electrotek

Obama is drinking beer right now on NBC, how much longer before wingnuts will continue to classify him as a Muslim?

They’ll switch gears and say he’s a COMMUNIST!!!!

133 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:46:37pm

President Obama says Super Bowl is going to be a close game, but health of Seattle Seahawks secondary may be a concern
end of alert

134 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 1:47:06pm

We now have a lonely cat on our hands who demands attention every two minutes and I’m too big a softy to tell him to get lost.

135 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:48:07pm

85 corporate jets? Jeeeez.

Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport estimates weather-related delays will abate by mid afternoon; spokesperson says most commercial Super Bowl traffic happened last week, but 12 of 85 corporate jets coming into airport today have been delayed - @NBCNews
end of alert

136 TedStriker  Feb 1, 2015 1:49:31pm

re: #40 BeachDem

And don’t forget the chiropractic—they think anything natural foods can’t handle, chiropractic will—I just don’t get it.

Chiropractic can have its uses as part of a broad physical therapy regimen, but for anything else, it’s pure, unfettered woo.

137 Great White Snark  Feb 1, 2015 1:50:36pm

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

Ah the challenges the top 1/10th of the 1% brings.
///

138 TedStriker  Feb 1, 2015 1:50:44pm

re: #44 electrotek

And they usually share crap stories found on kook sites like “NaturalNews”, I’m so glad I’ve bounced off from Facebook because I got fed up with these idiots who brag about their “natural” lifestyle but I usually see them snorting lines of coke at afterparties.

“But, but, it’s from the Earth, man!!!”

139 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:50:54pm

What could possibly go wrong?

South Sudanese president and rebel commander sign power sharing agreement on road to ending 15-month conflict, African diplomatic sources say - @Reuters
end of alert

140 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 1:50:58pm

re: #136 TedStriker

Chiropractic can have its uses as part of a broad physical therapy regimen, but for anything else, it’s pure, unfettered woo.

My grandmother went to the chiro every month for the same problem. That alone says a lot about how effective they aren’t.

141 aagcobb  Feb 1, 2015 1:51:11pm

re: #125 electrotek

Obama is drinking beer right now on NBC, how much longer before wingnuts will continue to classify him as a Muslim?

Its Taqqiya don’tchaknow. Those sneaky muslims are allowed to masquerade in front of infidels./

142 Lidane  Feb 1, 2015 1:51:50pm

re: #125 electrotek

Obama is drinking beer right now on NBC, how much longer before wingnuts will continue to classify him as a Muslim?

An FB friend of mine in Seattle just reacted to that interview:

The lady who interviewed Obama just now is an idiot. The POTUS is making his OWN BEER. The first POTUS since George Washington to make booze, and all she wanted to do was debate his policies and pick at his track record, then the bitch barely sipped the honey ale he poured for her. Ungrateful newslady is ungrateful.

143 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:52:44pm

re: #140 b_sharp

My grandmother went to the chiro every month for the same problem. That alone says a lot about how effective they aren’t.

Imaginary treatments for imaginary aches and pains.

Or because you had a rear-end auto accident (which is probably 90% of chiro practices).

144 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 1:52:52pm

re: #119 Justanotherhuman

Wow, she really must have pissed off Ailes when she got fired.

They actually hired her for a smaller role didn’t they…about a year and a half ago?

I think what happened is she screwed up so bad in Iowa at the Steve King Freedom Summit she has now been identified as a liability…and FOX, Ailes and the GOP are sending the big message to her.

Goodbye Sarah, we do not want you any more. Door let the door hit your crazy ass on the way out!

145 Lidane  Feb 1, 2015 1:53:34pm

re: #128 gwangung

Bonus points for multiple toppings.

What kind of heathen do you take me for? I think this pizza has every kind of processed meat and cheese on the planet.

My Super Bowl meal will be profoundly unhealthy. It’s the American way.

146 TedStriker  Feb 1, 2015 1:54:58pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something I’ve noticed within the past year or so, some of my FB friends who have in the past claimed that their children are autistic because of vaccines have changed the terminology in light of Dr Wakefield’s research being debunked.
The new term is “vaccine injured” instead of “autism”.

O_o

re: #46 ObserverArt

And so what the hell do they mean by that? I’m sure there is some AMA definition that everyone can use.

And how they hell do you go from “my kid is autistic” to “vaccine injured” any way? If your kid wasn’t autistic then you were flat outlying about that Ms. Munchausen, or you are the ‘sick’ one.

It wouldn’t surprise me if there was some sort of money/legal angle going on.

147 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 1:55:15pm

re: #134 b_sharp

We now have a lonely cat on our hands who demands attention every two minutes and I’m too big a softy to tell him to get lost.

awww {virtual head scritch for the sharp_cat}

148 TedStriker  Feb 1, 2015 1:56:05pm

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

Well, cocaine is a “natural” product (like pot), according to them, but of course they totally ignore the mfg process and cutting agents just so they can get high.

There’s a big difference between chewing coca leaves in high altitudes because you need the extra energy to get up and down mountains while working, and putting something like a mfg’d and cut product sold on the street up your nose just to get high.

GMTA…

149 Timothy Watson  Feb 1, 2015 1:57:35pm

re: #144 ObserverArt

They actually hired for a smaller role didn’t they…about a year and a half ago?

I think what happened is she screwed up so bad in Iowa at the Steve King Freedom Summit she has now been identified as a liability…and FOX, Ailes and the GOP are sending the big message to her.

Goodbye Sarah, we do not want you any more. Door let the door hit your crazy ass on the way out!

Palin pissed off Ailes by giving her 2008 announcement that she wouldn’t be running on Glenn Beck’s radio program instead of FNC. Ailes was quoted third-hand in a paper saying the they only reason she was given a contract was so she would make the announcement on FNC, and instead, she went on Glenn Beck’s radio program and did it there.

After that, he didn’t renew her contract at first and then gave her a reduced one finally.

150 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 1:58:47pm

re: #144 ObserverArt

They actually hired for a smaller role didn’t they…about a year and a half ago?

I think what happened is she screwed up so bad in Iowa at the Steve King Freedom Summit she has now been identified as a liability…and FOX, Ailes and the GOP are sending the big message to her.

Goodbye Sarah, we do not want you any more. Door let the door hit your crazy ass on the way out!

I really can’t remember the date, except at the last I think she was relegated to Fox Business News as a sort of commentator, iirc. He probably allowed her contract to run out, but from what I read at the time, it appeared she wanted more control and he wasn’t about to give it to her.

151 TedStriker  Feb 1, 2015 1:59:15pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of them in particular is a medical professional and has been “chelating” her kids (google “chelation therapy”—yikes!), loads them with all sorts of natural supplements (she got pissed off when the school refused to let her kids eat the huge handful of supplements during the school day), and soaks their medications to remove the colored hard coating on the pills.

re: #57 Justanotherhuman

Oh, for chrissakes. What kind of “medical professional”, I wonder? A Rolfing masseuse?

I’m guessing “chiropractor”.

152 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 2:01:09pm

re: #151 TedStriker

I’m guessing “chiropractor”.

Isn’t it a stretch to call a Chiro a medical professional?

153 #FergusonFireside  Feb 1, 2015 2:01:38pm

re: #149 Timothy Watson

Palin pissed off Ailes by giving her 2008 announcement that she wouldn’t be running on Glenn Beck’s radio program instead of FNC. Ailes was quoted third-hand in a paper saying the they only reason she was given a contract was so she would make the announcement on FNC, and instead, she went on Glenn Beck’s radio program and did it there.

After that, he didn’t renew her contract at first and then gave her a reduced one finally.

Actually Mark Steyn’s radio show. iirc

154 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 2:02:30pm

re: #149 Timothy Watson

Palin pissed off Ailes by giving her 2008 announcement that she wouldn’t be running on Glenn Beck’s radio program instead of FNC. Ailes was quoted third-hand in a paper saying the they only reason she was given a contract was so she would make the announcement on FNC, and instead, she went on Glenn Beck’s radio program and did it there.

After that, he didn’t renew her contract at first and then gave her a reduced one finally.

Yeah, that is how it went down. Now it looks like The Lord High Roger Ailes has nothing to do with her.

She will now further turn on them. It started with the interview with her ‘pal’ Sean Hannity where she started to cry about FOX and Bill O’Really.

Gonna need even more popcorn.

155 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:02:37pm

re: #152 b_sharp

Isn’t it a stretch to call a Chiro a medical professional?

Even “health professional” is pushing it.

156 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 1, 2015 2:04:07pm

Palin has outlived her usefulness. So Fox will sacrifice her and pretend that is a sign of moderation.

157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 2:04:50pm

re: #140 b_sharp

My grandmother went to the chiro every month for the same problem. That alone says a lot about how effective they aren’t.

MrBWS goes to his chiro every Saturday that he can when he is home.
They want him to come in at least three times a week; fortunately, that is not gonna happen.

158 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 1, 2015 2:04:58pm

re: #155 Justanotherhuman

Even “health professional” is pushing it.

A “billing” professional

159 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:05:37pm

I’m so amazed that Pres Obama can keep his cool and sense of humor no matter who interviews him.

instagram.com

160 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:06:21pm

re: #156 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Palin has outlived her usefulness. So Fox will sacrifice her and pretend that is a sign of moderation.

But that’s OK. I love to see the RW cannibalizing their own.

161 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 2:07:09pm

re: #159 Justanotherhuman

I’m so amazed that Pres Obama can keep his cool and sense of humor no matter who interviews him.

instagram.com

I couldn’t do it.

162 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 2:13:11pm

re: #159 Justanotherhuman

I’m so amazed that Pres Obama can keep his cool and sense of humor no matter who interviews him.

instagram.com

I used to like to watch the Today show. Anymore the show is more about the cast than anything else. I happened to have it on Friday and they did a segment on how they filmed a commercial for the Today show for the Super Bowl. 5 minutes of them walking the streets of New York and taking selfies with people on the street as camera crews followed them.

Who the hell cares! Where is the news and informative segments you used to be known for?

Oh that’s right…replaced by the 8 30 second commercial you run every 10 minutes in between something about Matt, Savanah, Natalie, Al…etc,

Blah!

163 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2015 2:14:27pm
164 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 1, 2015 2:15:55pm

Anti-vaxxers are a menace to any civilized society, so, as far as I’m concerned, some legal discrimination is called for. E.g. limitations on entering “health-sensitive” public places and so on.

165 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 1, 2015 2:18:37pm

re: #160 Justanotherhuman

But that’s OK. I love to see the RW cannibalizing their own.

But that ‘snot what’s happening. If it were some sort of doctrinal division it would be nice, but they’re just casting her off.

166 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 1, 2015 2:20:16pm

re: #164 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Anti-vaxxers are a menace to any civilized society, so, as far as I’m concerned, some legal discrimination is called for. E.g. limitations on entering “health-sensitive” public places and so on.

Quit your bitching. Get something moving:

petitions.whitehouse.gov

167 #FergusonFireside  Feb 1, 2015 2:21:49pm
168 retired cynic  Feb 1, 2015 2:26:09pm

You all must know some pretty unprofessional chiropractors. I go to a very good one, who really trains hard and keeps up to date, and has helped me tremendously. I only go when I need it, which is every couple of months, usually after a fall or something. She X-rays new patients, or a previous patient after an accident. Keeps meticulous records. Doesn’t push weird treatments on anyone. I consider her a serious health professional.

169 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 1, 2015 2:27:18pm

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

This is the worst anti-vaxxer Tweet you will see all day.

Not embedding because WTF

#GoldOutofHiding” A gold bug? Imagine my surprise. Probably thinks the Federal Reserve blew up the World Trade Center too.

170 TedStriker  Feb 1, 2015 2:30:20pm

re: #90 klystron

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I’m not given to violence, but I’d love to give this asshole the “bunk party” treatment from Full Metal Jacket.

171 TedStriker  Feb 1, 2015 2:31:22pm

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

And that narcissist is really projecting a lot on his kid, too, poor little thing.

I hope his kid grows up to hate his ass.

172 TedStriker  Feb 1, 2015 2:31:58pm

re: #107 aagcobb

BTW, Mike Huckabee can’t be a homophobe because he has homosexual friends.//

Like he has “black friends”, I’m sure…

173 ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2015 2:33:57pm

Later Lizardtypes. Gonna go to a friend’s for some Super Partying, good conversation, tunes and a little of that football stuff. I hope to miss halftime.

174 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 2:34:36pm

re: #168 retired cynic

You all must know some pretty unprofessional chiropractors. I go to a very good one, who really trains hard and keeps up to date, and has helped me tremendously. I only go when I need it, which is every couple of months, usually after a fall or something. She X-rays new patients, or a previous patient after an accident. Keeps meticulous records. Doesn’t push weird treatments on anyone. I consider her a serious health professional.

The basis for chiros is a pseudoscience. You can get similar help from a masseuse without all the energy flow mumbo jumbo.

No matter how hard or mindful the training, if you’re training in something not rooted in rigorous understanding of modern science, you’re learning the wrong things.

175 b_sharp  Feb 1, 2015 2:35:23pm

Damn, Remmy sure is missing Jack.

We may have to get a cat for our cat.

176 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:37:57pm

re: #171 TedStriker

I hope his kid grows up to hate his ass.

The kid might hate him, but he won’t probably won’t forego his trust fund.

Cardiologists (invasive) are the second highest paid drs, after ortho surgeons.

Pediatricians are the lowest paid in a rank of 22.

forbes.com

177 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2015 2:45:21pm

re: #171 TedStriker

I hope his kid grows up to hate his ass.

If his kid grows up. :(

178 Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2015 2:46:53pm

This is how Chuck responds when someone points out that Mexico has no measles because almost all children are vaccinated:

179 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:49:26pm

re: #174 b_sharp

The basis for chiros is a pseudoscience. You can get similar help from a masseuse without all the energy flow mumbo jumbo.

No matter how hard or mindful the training, if you’re training in something not rooted in rigorous understanding of modern science, you’re learning the wrong things.

Do any of them realize “vertebral subluxation” is a made-up, non-scientific theory? If your spine were really “out of alignment”, you’d probably have scoliosis or some other orthopedic situation. The “Palmer method” is the basis of what they say is a biomechanical spinal segment which is fixated and alters neurological function and the invented “cures” for this, such as electric currents and “spinal adjustments” are just so much snake oil, IMHOI.

180 BeachDem  Feb 1, 2015 2:49:49pm

Just about ready for my Superbowl party—so exhausted, I wish I had time for a nap before everybody gets here, but no.

181 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:50:36pm

re: #180 BeachDem

Just about ready for my Superbowl party—so exhausted, I wish I had time for a nap before everybody gets here, but no.

With any luck, you’ll nod off? : )

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 2:51:32pm

re: #153 #FergusonFireside

Actually Mark Steyn’s radio show. iirc

Mark Levin’s radio show on October 5, 2012.
non-wingnut link:
cbsnews.com

183 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:51:46pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

This is how Chuck responds when someone points out that Mexico has no measles because almost all children are vaccinated:

[Embedded content]

They really, really, really want to blame it on the “illegals”, don’t they?

Assholes.

184 #FergusonFireside  Feb 1, 2015 2:52:22pm

re: #180 BeachDem

Just about ready for my Superbowl party—so exhausted, I wish I had time for a nap before everybody gets here, but no.

Enjoy the clam dip! I’ve been thinking about it since you typed the words!

185 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:55:00pm

Oh noes! Not the Red Ranger!

FORMER POWER RANGER FATALLY STABBED ROOMMATE WITH SWORD IN GREEN VALLEY

abc7.com

PALMDALE, Calif. (KABC) — Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies have arrested Ricardo Medina, Jr., who is best known for his role as the red Power Ranger, in connection with fatally stabbing his roommate with a sword in their Green Valley home.

“Medina, 36, was booked for murder at Palmdale Sheriff’s Station. He was being held in lieu of $1 million.

(snip)

“Sheriff’s deputies said Medina got into an argument that turned into a physical fight with his roommate Joshua Sutter, 36. Sutter allegedly followed Medina and his girlfriend into their room by forcing the door open. Medina then stabbed Sutter in the abdomen with a sword kept next to the bedroom door.” More

186 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2015 2:55:02pm

re: #183 Justanotherhuman

They really, really, really want to blame it on the “illegals”, don’t they?

Assholes.

Not “want to” they totally do
Never mind that Disney admission is $200

187 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 2:56:05pm

re: #166 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Quit your bitching. Get something moving:

Totally uncalled for.
TOTALLY.

188 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 2:58:42pm

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

Not “want to” they totally do
Never mind that Disney admission is $200

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Wowser. I think it only cost $10 to get in there in 1962. Seems like a century ago, not a half century. : )

189 electrotek  Feb 1, 2015 2:59:25pm

Has anyone here ended up deleting anti-vaxxer nutjobs from their Facebook accounts? I’m tempted to get back on and do a call out status on the anti-vaxxers to weed them out.

190 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 3:00:55pm

re: #189 electrotek

Has anyone here ended up deleting anti-vaxxer nutjobs from their Facebook accounts? I’m tempted to get back on and do a call out status on the anti-vaxxers to weed them out.

I don’t do Fakebook. : )

191 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Feb 1, 2015 3:01:09pm

OK, so… hypothetically:

Let’s say you’re in your early 40s and all the family members you grew up with are dead or otherwise unavailable for supplying information. You don’t have any idea about whether you’ve ever been vaccinated against $DISEASE or not.

1) how would one find out?
2) is it safe to assume that if you’ve made it 40 years without contracting measles, mumps, diphtheria, pertussis. and tetanus that you can pretty much stop worrying about those things and move on to awaiting your inevitable death from heart disease or cancer? Or does it still make sense at this late state to get those vaccinations?

192 electrotek  Feb 1, 2015 3:02:08pm

re: #190 Justanotherhuman

I don’t do Fakebook. : )

Lucky indeed. I thought about deleting my Facebook account but honestly, I’ve had it for 10 years now (yes back when it was only open to college students exclusively, or anyone with an .edu address lol). I have a lot of stuff on there that I’m hesitant to abandon, namely photos and posts from 2005 onward.

193 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 3:02:10pm

re: #191 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

there’s a titers blood test for measles immunity, might be the same for others.

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 1, 2015 3:02:26pm

re: #191 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

OK, so… hypothetically:

Let’s say you’re in your early 40s and all the family members you grew up with are dead or otherwise unavailable for supplying information. You don’t have any idea about whether you’ve ever been vaccinated against $DISEASE or not.

1) how would one find out?
2) is it safe to assume that if you’ve made it 40 years without contracting measles, mumps, diphtheria, pertussis. and tetanus that you can pretty much stop worrying about those things and move on to awaiting your inevitable death from heart disease or cancer? Or does it still make sense at this late state to get those vaccinations?

I think so, those diseases might not be fatal on their own, but they could be if they hit you in weakened old in combination with another condition.

195 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 3:02:52pm

Apparently HIV/AIDS denialism is a thing and one of the newer hatchlings wanted to bring this to our attention.

196 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 3:04:08pm

re: #191 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

OK, so… hypothetically:

Let’s say you’re in your early 40s and all the family members you grew up with are dead or otherwise unavailable for supplying information. You don’t have any idea about whether you’ve ever been vaccinated against $DISEASE or not.

1) how would one find out?
2) is it safe to assume that if you’ve made it 40 years without contracting measles, mumps, diphtheria, pertussis. and tetanus that you can pretty much stop worrying about those things and move on to awaiting your inevitable death from heart disease or cancer? Or does it still make sense at this late state to get those vaccinations?

Tetanus and pertussis should be updated every 5-10 years or so and it is important to do those at a minimum because infants especially are vulnerable to pertussis.

Plus dying by tetanus is very unpleasant.

197 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 3:07:09pm

re: #195 klystron

Apparently HIV/AIDS denialism is a thing and one of the newer hatchlings wanted to bring this to our attention.

there’s another hatchling over there…brand new and still silent…

198 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2015 3:07:26pm

re: #191 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

OK, so… hypothetically:

Let’s say you’re in your early 40s and all the family members you grew up with are dead or otherwise unavailable for supplying information. You don’t have any idea about whether you’ve ever been vaccinated against $DISEASE or not.

1) how would one find out?
2) is it safe to assume that if you’ve made it 40 years without contracting measles, mumps, diphtheria, pertussis. and tetanus that you can pretty much stop worrying about those things and move on to awaiting your inevitable death from heart disease or cancer? Or does it still make sense at this late state to get those vaccinations?

One of my earliest memories is lining up in the school gym for a polio shot. The girl next door, who was 5 years older than me, had a shriveled leg from polio.

199 Belafon  Feb 1, 2015 3:08:00pm

Here’s a great link about vaccination rates for measles throughout the world: data.worldbank.org.

200 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2015 3:08:57pm

re: #196 klystron

Tetanus and pertussis should be updated every 5-10 years or so and it is important to do those at a minimum because infants especially are vulnerable to pertussis.

Plus dying by tetanus is very unpleasant.

Many people who vaccinate their kids as infants and toddlers do not realize that a booster shot is required for teens.

How many high schools require a booster shot for all incoming freshmen?

201 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 1, 2015 3:09:21pm

re: #183 Justanotherhuman

They really, really, really want to blame it on the “illegals”, don’t they?

Assholes.

Ignorant jingoism seems to be a constant of history, no matter how often reality gives a hard lesson to the contrary.
It is an absolute disgrace, for example, that Japanese capabilities came as such a shock in December of 1941. People like Claire Chennault had been sending accurate and detailed reports from China for several years. They were almost completely ignored, though, since “everyone knew” the Japanese could only produce poor copies of western technology and all their pilots were near-sighted anyway.

202 blueraven  Feb 1, 2015 3:10:14pm

re: #191 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

OK, so… hypothetically:

Let’s say you’re in your early 40s and all the family members you grew up with are dead or otherwise unavailable for supplying information. You don’t have any idea about whether you’ve ever been vaccinated against $DISEASE or not.

1) how would one find out?
2) is it safe to assume that if you’ve made it 40 years without contracting measles, mumps, diphtheria, pertussis. and tetanus that you can pretty much stop worrying about those things and move on to awaiting your inevitable death from heart disease or cancer? Or does it still make sense at this late state to get those vaccinations?

A little info here on how to find out.

historyofvaccines.org

If one is around 40, they should have been vaccinated for the following:

U.S. residents born between 1971 and 1989

were recommended to receive the following childhood vaccines:

DTP (diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis)
Polio (oral live attenuated poliovirus vaccine)
MMR (measles, mumps, rubella)

203 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 3:10:47pm

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Many people who vaccinate their kids as infants and toddlers do not realize that a booster shot is required for teens.

How many high schools require a booster shot for all incoming freshmen?

I don’t know if mine did or not.

I got my first booster after a dog bite and my second a few years back. Probably coming up on time for the next one.

204 BillinGlendaleCA  Feb 1, 2015 3:12:59pm

re: #188 Justanotherhuman

Yes, but you had to get more ticket books to get more “E Tickets”. That drove up the price quite a bit. I still think I’ve got some A and B tickets.

205 retired cynic  Feb 1, 2015 3:14:07pm

for 174 and 179: I have tried to respond, but the system won’t take my comments. Says they are duplicates. Anyway, I am not trying to get into a fight with anyone. Just that I disagree from my own personal experience with massage therapists and chiropractors (and I was raised to think they were quacks). YYMV. I won’t post on this again.

206 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 3:17:26pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

One of my earliest memories is lining up in the school gym for a polio shot. The girl next door, who was 5 years older than me, had a shriveled leg from polio.

Gawd, the sight of an iron lung when I was a kid instilled abject fear in me.

207 prairiefire  Feb 1, 2015 3:23:11pm

Miss Idina nailed the national anthem. I’m all misty eyed.

208 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 1, 2015 3:23:25pm

Dear sporting events organizers -
Get someone to sing the anthem who follows a tempo so that the attendees have the option to sing the lyrics as well. It’s not a performance - it’s honoring the nation and its citizens.

I’d rather has someone’s aunt sing it than trotting out some Tony Award winner who wanders the tempo and seemingly stretches various lyrics at random.

(/rant)

209 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 3:23:57pm

I like the juxtaposition of two very different opinions on the national anthem.

210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 1, 2015 3:24:20pm

Ve are vatchingk ze Super Bowl on German TV!!!

211 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2015 3:24:43pm

Oh hey. I should probably leave for the airport in half an hour or so.

212 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 1, 2015 3:26:28pm

re: #207 prairiefire

Miss Idina nailed the national anthem. I’m all misty eyed.

I think it was better than Rosanna Barr’s, but that’s it. Give me Robert Merrell, or the best living substitute we’ve got. There is a published tune, I can accept some small amount of personalization, but it’s the national anthem, not freaking “Wind Beneath My Wings”. Do it right, or don’t do it. Period.

RBS

213 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 3:27:22pm

re: #206 Justanotherhuman

Gawd, the sight of an iron lung when I was a kid instilled abject fear in me.

They are still here.

214 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 3:27:54pm
215 Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2015 3:27:54pm
216 b.d.  Feb 1, 2015 3:29:24pm

I guess the last time a red state was represented in the Super Bowl was when the Saints were in it?

Why do republicans suck at teh pro football?

217 Justanotherhuman  Feb 1, 2015 3:29:57pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are still here.

But we were all scared stiff back in the 40s and 50s since the news always had reports of new cases and showed them on TV, and I had “growing pains” in my legs that hurt like hell when I was in elementary school.

218 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 1, 2015 3:30:06pm

There’s a very simple test.

AIDS denialists who have died

219 Belafon  Feb 1, 2015 3:31:41pm

re: #212 RealityBasedSteve

When I was in band, we bent notes all the time different from the note designation to make the song sound better. It’s music, not a computer program.

220 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 1, 2015 3:32:57pm

re: #218 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Huw Christie (Huw Christie Harry Williams) was an editor of Continuum, a long-running AIDS denialist newsletter from the UK that folded when all the editors died. Huw Christie developed Kaposi’s sarcoma and died in August of 2001. He was 41.

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2015 3:32:57pm

re: #217 Justanotherhuman

But we were all scared stiff back in the 40s and 50s since the news always had reports of new cases and showed them on TV, and I had “growing pains” in my legs that hurt like hell when I was in elementary school.

The few still here have been in those iron lungs all these many decades.

222 OhNoZombies!  Feb 1, 2015 3:41:38pm

re: #207 prairiefire

Miss Idina nailed the national anthem. I’m all misty eyed.

She did a great job, I agree.
Still, I can’t help comparing everyone’s rendition to Whitney Houston’s.
National Anthem
Every time she sang it.

223 prairiefire  Feb 1, 2015 3:58:04pm

re: #222 OhNoZombies!

Did you hear about Bobbi Christina? Pretty sad stuff, I’m afraid.

224 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Feb 1, 2015 9:40:51pm

The first snow wave overnight here in the city (Chicago) was super wet and heavy. Tough shoveling and just walking. The next wave was lighter, but with nasty winds. I figure we got 18” total. But made to and from wicker park to rogers park in normal time or better via bus/El. I love public transportation every day, but today even more so.

225 nkdee  Feb 2, 2015 3:47:40am

re: #10 lawhawk
The shingles vac won’t necessarily keep you from getting them. It will, however, make them less serious. I had shingles a couple years ago. A friend thought I might have them so I went to the doc. He asked if I had chicken pox as a child but I didn’t know. He looked at the rash and said, “The answer is yes, you have had chicken pox…now you have shingles.” Fortunately they were not serious and I went to the doc before they got too bad. VERY painful, though. I got the3 vac as soon as possible.


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