2 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 7:45:02pm |
Charles beat me to the punch(line) on this one, but here’s the latest gotnwes.com bulletin, anyway.
BREAKING, EXCLUSIVE: #clintonemails prove Hillary Clinton aide is Hillary Clinton aide
Let’s see how many people call me a nitwit for this report. ;-)
3 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mar 3, 2015 7:46:48pm |
evening Lizards. been a busy day (and still going) since I have a deployment to manage in 15 minutes. Heard the bibi speech and just shook my head. I am guessing (and having read some of the comments in the thread) I wasn’t the only one.
4 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 7:53:30pm |
I can relate to Mothersbaugh’s experience getting his first pair of glasses. My vision was (still is!) just as bad as his, but I got my first pair of glasses in the first grade. Miss LeMay noticed I couldn’t read the chalkboard from the second row and asked my folks to take me to an eye doctor.
Fun fact: My first eye doctor was a woman. At age 7, I didn’t think anything of it, but looking back I suppose she was a rare breed. I liked her, because she always had comic books in the waiting room.
5 | freetoken Mar 3, 2015 7:56:34pm |
… news of de-evolution.
Are we still on Ben Carson?
Oh… wait… that’s anti-evolution. My bad.
6 | Dark_Falcon Mar 3, 2015 7:58:43pm |
re: #2 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Charles beat me to the punch(line) on this one, but here’s the latest gotnwes.com bulletin, anyway.
BREAKING, EXCLUSIVE: #clintonemails prove Hillary Clinton aide is Hillary Clinton aide
Let’s see how many people call me a nitwit for this report. ;-)
As secretive as Hillary Clinton often is, one wonders if that one is a joke.
7 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 7:59:04pm |
re: #5 freetoken
Are we still on Ben Carson?
Oh… wait… that’s anti-evolution. My bad.
Someone needs to ‘shop a Devo hat onto Carson’s head.
8 | freetoken Mar 3, 2015 8:01:41pm |
re: #7 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Someone needs to ‘shop a Devo hat onto Carson’s head…
… while he’s riding a llama.
9 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 8:04:10pm |
10 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 3, 2015 8:04:22pm |
11 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 3, 2015 8:05:26pm |
12 | Dark_Falcon Mar 3, 2015 8:05:37pm |
re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg
With a
black and bluewhite and gold dress.
No, I say it was purple and silver!
/
13 | wrenchwench Mar 3, 2015 8:09:46pm |
I got glasses in third grade. Eleven years later I saw Devo at the Santa Monica Civic.
14 | freetoken Mar 3, 2015 8:11:15pm |
I’ve noted before how the Gannett company appears to be marketing to the religious right, given all the articles on creationism their various local news outlets run.
Here’s another example, of an opinion piece, not just a letter to the editor, that Gannett is running:
Viewpoint: The real victim is Kent Hovind
[…]
Brother Hovind’s true crime was being naïve in believing that a corrupt justice system would do what is right and find him innocent. Brother Hovind is the victim. He is the victim of persecution from the IRS; he is the victim of anti-Christian, unethical, unconstitutional and prejudiced judge and prosecutors; he is a victim of media bias; and his reputation and integrity have been ruined.
[…]
The poor author sounds like a real mark for the con-man.
15 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 8:19:45pm |
re: #14 freetoken
Pity the poor oppressed deadbeat Christian scammer.
16 | freetoken Mar 3, 2015 8:21:28pm |
Quiet night already… but I’ll vent here about how messed up so many websites seem to be becoming.
I’m not talking about content but rather the web pages and the mountains of code which they now contain.
In the past 6 months or so I’ve encountered more and more sites that just won’t load, or load very well. Many take forever to load in Chrome. I’ve reinstalled ABP because even though it can cause problems I’m now encountering sites that have 20+ Flash thingys on a page, as well as being formatted for mobile devices (I hate the infinite scroll off the bottom that was made popular by sites like Twitter and Facebook.)
17 | jaunte Mar 3, 2015 8:22:23pm |
re: #14 freetoken
“Hovind and his wife made a whole series of bank withdrawals that were just slightly under the $10,000 limit that would trigger reporting of the activity. They knew. They knew very well what they were doing.”
scienceblogs.com
18 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 8:28:46pm |
re: #17 jaunte
“Hovind and his wife made a whole series of bank withdrawals that were just slightly under the $10,000 limit that would trigger reporting of the activity. They knew. They knew very well what they were doing.”
scienceblogs.com
Yeah, I have no sympathy for Hovind. He deliberately violated tax regulations and was practically daring the IRS to come after him, thinking Jaysus would protect him. That would be the same guy who said “render unto Caesar” etc. etc., so I reckon jaysus is just being consistent.
20 | Nyet Mar 3, 2015 8:35:56pm |
With pastor Hagee and Elie Wiesel @netanyahu speech pic.twitter.com/uVJ7RcRRZ1— Rabbi Shmuley (@RabbiShmuley) March 4, 2015
There are three guys on the photo.
One of them made an ad juxtaposing Susan Rice with a picture of skulls and accusing her of being pro-genocide.
One is a Gatestone Institute advisor.
One claims that Adolf Hitler came from a line of “accursed, genocidally murderous half-breed Jews.”
21 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 3, 2015 8:40:28pm |
22 | RadicalModerate Mar 3, 2015 8:40:37pm |
Today marked an anniversary that unfortunately got very little notice.
NASA turned 100 years old today.
NASA Celebrates 100 Years Since Founding of NACA
NACA 100 Years
On March 3, 2015, NASA celebrates 100 years since the founding of its predecessor — the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, or NACA.
With a small budget and no paid staff, the NACA began developing the capabilities our nation needed to gain leadership in aeronautics. Throughout and beyond World War II, the NACA developed or helped develop many aeronautical breakthroughs that are still used today — from engine cowlings, to retractable landing gear, and jet engine compressors and turbines.
When the nation’s focus began turning to space during the 1950s, it was decided that the NACA’s 7,500 employees and $300 million in facilities would transition on October 1, 1958, to a new agency. Some of the NACA’s brightest minds became leaders of the space effort and directors of NASA research centers. One former NACA employee put the first footprints on the moon.
23 | klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 3, 2015 8:41:38pm |
Well, my cats didn’t respond so positively but maybe yours will.
24 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 3, 2015 8:42:46pm |
When David McKay and his group found those fossil bacteria in meteorite ALH84001, many biologists screamed that no bacteria could be that small.
25 | Kragar Mar 3, 2015 8:46:42pm |
House Republicans press consumer watchdog to stop regulating bank overdraft fees http://t.co/eDIIbI1EAz— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) March 4, 2015
27 | CleverToad Mar 3, 2015 8:52:13pm |
re: #24 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Also cool! Will have to read this again when I’m awake tomorrow…
28 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 3, 2015 8:54:45pm |
re: #22 RadicalModerate
Today marked an anniversary that unfortunately got very little notice.
NASA turned 100 years old today.
And the same Charles Doolittle Wolcott who found the Burgess Shale fossil beds also founded the NACA. What’s my point? I don’t know…it just seems odd.
29 | Charles Johnson Mar 3, 2015 8:55:13pm |
According to right wing nutjobs, if you criticize Netanyahu it must mean you hate Israel. https://t.co/OqVSURFaRZ— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 4, 2015
The loons are barking at the moon tonight.
30 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 3, 2015 8:59:05pm |
re: #29 Charles Johnson
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According to right wing nutjobs, if you criticize Netanyahu it must mean you hate Israel.The loons are barking at the moon tonight.
But if you criticize Obama, it’s because you love America.
RBS
31 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 3, 2015 9:00:08pm |
re: #29 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
The loons are barking at the moon tonight.
They’re scared out of their minds. They realize that Obama is probably close to getting a good agreement with Iran, and that will eliminate one of their biggest talking points.
Of course they figure President Bush III or whoever can just renege on it, like Bush II did with the really good agreement Bill Clinton had with North
Korea.
32 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 3, 2015 9:06:56pm |
re: #16 freetoken
I’m with you on that. I hate sites that have mountains of ads and taboola links and almost no content. And don’t get me started on those “Best” or “Top” lists that have every entry on a SEPARATE PAGE.
33 | darthstar Mar 3, 2015 9:08:29pm |
re: #29 Charles Johnson
@Green_Footballs Fuck those assholes. They just hate Obama (and by extension, America), Bibi's a dick, but he's not our dick.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) March 4, 2015
34 | darthstar Mar 3, 2015 9:09:54pm |
re: #31 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
The talking points will remain, no matter what. Facts are irrelevant, When the time comes, the GOP will take credit for the Obama presidency and all will be right with the world.
35 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 3, 2015 9:11:50pm |
Also wanted to chime in on the crime shows discussion from last night. One of the things that bothers me?
“Oh we only have this black and white surveillance photo but let’s switch it into 3-D so we can rotate it and see what was behind the guy who has his back to the camera.”
Because you TOTALLY don’t need another camera for such a thing.
/
36 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 3, 2015 9:12:09pm |
re: #34 darthstar
The talking points will remain, no matter what. Facts are irrelevant, When the time comes, the GOP will take credit for the Obama presidency and all will be right with the world.
Oh, in the wingnut-o-sphere, you’re right. But a lot of voters will remember which side negotiated an agreement and which side tried to gin up yet a third ME war.
37 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 3, 2015 9:12:43pm |
re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg
Also wanted to chime in on the crime shows discussion from last night. One of the things that bothers me?
“Oh we only have this black and white surveillance photo but let’s switch it into 3-D so we can rotate it and see what was behind the guy who has his back to the camera.”
Because you TOTALLY don’t need another camera for such a thing.
/
it’s all about the reflected quantum pixels
RBS
38 | darthstar Mar 3, 2015 9:12:55pm |
@Salon It's not a proper name. There are lots of gods. I could say “Xian god” and that would be accurate and grammatically correct.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) March 4, 2015
39 | darthstar Mar 3, 2015 9:13:56pm |
re: #36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Obama’s up 5 points thanks to Boehner/Bibi’s stunt.
40 | Kragar Mar 3, 2015 9:19:01pm |
re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg
Also wanted to chime in on the crime shows discussion from last night. One of the things that bothers me?
“Oh we only have this black and white surveillance photo but let’s switch it into 3-D so we can rotate it and see what was behind the guy who has his back to the camera.”
Because you TOTALLY don’t need another camera for such a thing.
/
I love how they’re able to break an entire murder case, including decrypting data, DNA breakdowns, toxicology reports, tracking down witnesses and bringing them in multiples times for interviews, and it all happens in just one day.
41 | darthstar Mar 3, 2015 9:20:44pm |
Lots of sirens outside…someone’s having a bad commute home. I hope they’re okay. Crap…big engine siren noise. That means fire.
42 | darthstar Mar 3, 2015 9:22:42pm |
Now Salon wants me to capitalize the word ‘god’ in every instance. Fuck that blogzine.
45 | Kragar Mar 3, 2015 9:25:47pm |
re: #42 darthstar
Now Salon wants me to capitalize the word ‘god’ in every instance. Fuck that blogzine.
Replace it with Glob
46 | freetoken Mar 3, 2015 9:27:23pm |
re: #40 Kragar
Humans want to believe in magic.
To many people in our society, our inventions are magical. Not understood, just accepted.
That’s why so few “sci-fi” shows have true, or at least possible through speculation, descriptions of plot elements and devices. Rather, it’s all magic.
47 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 3, 2015 9:29:13pm |
re: #46 freetoken
Humans want to believe in magic.
To many people in our society, our inventions are magical. Not understood, just accepted.
That’s why so few “sci-fi” shows have true, or at least possible through speculation, descriptions of plot elements and devices. Rather, it’s all magic.
A lot of the same people think you can prevent somebody with the resources of a national government from acquiring 70-year-old technology if they really want to.
48 | TedStriker Mar 3, 2015 9:32:22pm |
49 | BeachDem Mar 3, 2015 9:39:48pm |
50 | Nyet Mar 3, 2015 9:41:56pm |
re: #38 darthstar
Congrats, Salon, that’s such a deep article on such an important topic.
51 | klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 3, 2015 9:44:35pm |
It’s just a matter of week, guys, a MATTER OF WEEKS.
52 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 3, 2015 9:58:40pm |
re: #51 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It’s just a matter of week, guys, a MATTER OF WEEKS.
My reply to that idiot.
54 | klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 3, 2015 10:09:00pm |
re: #53 Nyet
It’s useless. Been there.
I know.
To be fair, my reply was polite.
It may have taken five three drafts to get there.
55 | BeachDem Mar 3, 2015 10:14:01pm |
Per Jon Stewart:
“Whether or not Netanyahu achieved his goals of sabotaging a deal with Iran or mistakenly opened up a rift in U.S.-Israeli relations, one thing is certain,” Stewart observed. “The in-chamber response to this speech was by far the longest blowjob a Jewish man has ever received.”
56 | Ace-o-aces Mar 3, 2015 10:21:53pm |
“Mistakes of the past”. Like starting a Middle East war over “WMD”? That kind of mistake? @mt_newman @alloll_A
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 4, 2015
57 | Kragar Mar 3, 2015 10:22:33pm |
re: #56 Ace-o-aces
A mistake like listening to what Bibi has to say about the Middle East? @mt_newman @alloll_A— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) March 4, 2015
58 | Ace-o-aces Mar 3, 2015 10:24:30pm |
re: #44 Kragar
8 Scenes That Prove Hollywood Doesn’t Get Technology
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…what can we expect from an industry that doesn’t understand how keyboards work despite using them on a daily basis to type the scripts?
59 | Ace-o-aces Mar 3, 2015 10:33:20pm |
uh, huh. Tell me Mr. Levin, what else do the voices say to you? @mmfa
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 4, 2015
60 | Kragar Mar 3, 2015 10:37:21pm |
re: #59 Ace-o-aces
“ACORN is coming to take you off to the FEMA camps!” @aceoaces @mmfa— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) March 4, 2015
61 | goddamnedfrank Mar 3, 2015 10:39:28pm |
Self righteous Christian tells Jews how to Jew.
@ChuckCJohnson @rbostick12 What about the Jewish Congresspeople boycotting the speech? JINOs, all of them.— mary (@mpg25mary) March 4, 2015
“@SummerAnnHawkes: Jewish Dems boycotting Bibi's speech. http://t.co/hZboSD4Dnw #StandWithIsrael pic.twitter.com/Z2Ano25L5S” @ChuckCJohnson— mary (@mpg25mary) March 4, 2015
62 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 10:47:38pm |
re: #61 goddamnedfrank
Self righteous Christian tells Jews how to Jew.
Americans Jews criticize, even snub, the duly elected leader of another country, they’re JINOs.
American conservatives criticize, even insult, the duly elected leader of their own country, they’re True Americans.
It’s all very simple, really.
63 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 3, 2015 10:54:58pm |
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu looked out over the gathered members of Congress today. “You are my harem,” the Israeli leader said, “and I am your sultan. I could pluck any one of you out and bring back to my tent, adorn you in silk, and ask you if you’re grateful that you get the privilege to suck the sultan’s cock. You, there, Senator Tom Cotton, part your lips and smoke the cream pipe of paradise. Darrell Issa, your tongue looks ready to wash the leathery folds of the sultan’s orb sack. Don’t crowd, my concubines. I will bless each of you when my jism geyser is ready to erupt. Each of you will receive the gift of the sultan’s pearls on your faces”
65 | Nyet Mar 3, 2015 11:05:57pm |
re: #63 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
At first I thought, “too much”. But after clicking his links…
66 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 11:08:10pm |
re: #63 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Link no work, boss.
67 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 3, 2015 11:20:35pm |
68 | freetoken Mar 3, 2015 11:28:24pm |
Anyone else finding the latest versions of Chrome (Mac version) to be a memory hog?
I remember when i switched to Chrome, because Safari had become so slow and a memory hog itself.
Now Chrome is getting worse.
Looking at the stats:
Just to start Chrome takes over 500MB.
To load the LGF front page - another 500MB.
To then load the spy version of the latest post - yet another 500MB.
Modern software is addicted to gadgetitis, and so much software is severely bloated.
69 | LastYearsMan Mar 3, 2015 11:30:52pm |
I’ve been unhappy with Chrome ever since upgrading to Yosemite. Which could just as likely mean I’m unhappy with Apple. But the current setup seems to open a lot of “Google Chrome Helper” tracks for each tab, which really adds up quickly and eats up a lot of memory.
71 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 11:41:37pm |
Here’s the latest one-sided exchange with the guy who called @GotNwes a nitwit earlier.
He’s just very upset, it seems. At what, I’m not sure.
72 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 3, 2015 11:47:28pm |
re: #69 LastYearsMan
I was using Firefox for a long time. Then, when FF continued to have a memory leak problem, I switched to Chrome. Then Chrome started to eat up RAM. Plus I was having problems with Chrome and LGF’s bells and whistles, so I switched to Opera. I still use FF, because the latest iteration seems not to gobble up RAM, but Opera has become my LGF browser because everything works.
Except the Pages bookmarklet. I have no idea where it goes in Opera.
73 | TedStriker Mar 4, 2015 12:01:04am |
74 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 12:12:07am |
re: #73 TedStriker
Damn, they couldn’t find a clue if it hit them in the head…
He just doesn’t get it, and there’s no point in trying to explain things to him. I guess he figures he who has the most tweets/followers haz Teh Troot.
75 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 12:15:45am |
re: #64 Kragar
Touching up my Chaos elites
I played a game of Warhammer 40K once. It took 3 hours to get my army to fighting distance, and about 5 minutes for my opponent to kill everyone. Decided to stick to chess after that.
76 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 12:23:22am |
re: #75 Ace-o-aces
I played a game of Warhammer 40K once. It took 3 hours to get my army to fighting distance, and about 5 minutes for my opponent to kill everyone. Decided to stick to chess after that.
Got to make sure you’ve got a balanced force
77 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 12:25:18am |
re: #76 Kragar
Got to make sure you’ve got a balanced force
What, you can’t just rush the enemy with hordes of low-level troops? All those years of RTS games lied to me?!
/
78 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 12:27:08am |
re: #77 Targetpractice
What, you can’t just rush the enemy with hordes of low-level troops? All those years of RTS games lied to me?!
/
I had a Nid player once tell me that a tactical withdrawl to keep his forces in a kill zone was cheating.
79 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 12:28:45am |
re: #78 Kragar
I had a Nid player once tell me that a tactical withdrawl to keep his forces in a kill zone was cheating.
Did you remind him that there is no cheating in war?
80 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 12:51:09am |
re: #79 Targetpractice
Did you remind him that there is no cheating in war?
IIRC, my response was to roll 2 squads of Sternguard veterans up on his Hive Tyrant and disembarking them in rapid fire range.
81 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 12:54:33am |
Colombians seize illegal cargo of weapons bound for Cuba from Chinese vessel.
82 | William Barnett-Lewis Mar 4, 2015 1:00:59am |
re: #80 Kragar
IIRC, my response was to roll 2 squads of Sternguard veterans up on his Hive Tyrant and disembarking them in rapid fire range.
Bah, that simply recalls Maxim 20: if you’re not willing to shell your own position, you’re not willing to win.
83 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 1:07:17am |
re: #82 William Barnett-Lewis
Bah, that simply recalls Maxim 20: if you’re not willing to shell your own position, you’re not willing to win.
The rules actually prevent you from shelling your own troops on purpose.
Never the less, there are ways.
“You can’t drop arty on these guys, they’re locked in combat with your troops.”
“Yeah, but I can shell the transport they just disembarked from and catch you in the blast.”
“YOU BASTARD!”
84 | BadExampleMan Mar 4, 2015 1:11:25am |
85 | goddamnedfrank Mar 4, 2015 1:15:20am |
re: #78 Kragar
I had a Nid player once tell me that a tactical withdrawl to keep his forces in a kill zone was cheating.
Nids have no personality, I don’g get the appeal at all.
re: #83 Kragar
The rules actually prevent you from shelling your own troops on purpose.
Karamazov has an exception in the Grey Knights codex. The By All Means Necessary Rule allows him to fire an Orbital Strike Relay centered on a friendly model, with no scatter, because honey badger doesn’t give a shit.
86 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 1:19:28am |
re: #85 goddamnedfrank
Nids have no personality, I don’g get the appeal at all.
Karamazov has an exception in the Grey Knights codex. The By All Means Necessary Rule allows him to fire an Orbital Strike Relay centered on a friendly model, with no scatter, because honey badger doesn’t give a shit.
There are units with special rules which override the basic rules. I think there are a couple more with rules like that.
87 | Nyet Mar 4, 2015 1:45:46am |
They can’t even shop.
Viral photo of protester riding weasel riding woodpecker #DeliverySystemForTheGospel pic.twitter.com/fo3orXmsB2— Westboro Baptist (@WBCSaysRepent) March 4, 2015
88 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 1:53:53am |
I need to talk to a reasonable person. I’ve been awakened by my grandson having to go to Charlotte to see his mother whose little trailer home was the scene of a “home invasion”. This is the second time in a week that someone came to her house where she and her boyfriend live. The first time, they came home to find the door broken in, but nothing taken. Last night, 2 guys came by and attempted to enter while they were there, and her boyfriend evidently beat the crap out of one of them and the police took him to a mental health facility. I should note that the boyfriend suffered a severe beating when he was 17 and has some issues, including the loss of sight in one eye and perhaps some brain damage as well (he’s on disability). He’s 40 but looks very young, almost half his age. I’ve never seen him violent, however, and it sounds as though he was defending his home and himself and her against those guys. The cops claimed they had one guy in custody but he somehow escaped.
I was trying to explain to her that it seemed odd to me that her little place (which you would have to know where it is to find it among a hundred or more others in a trailer park) was an odd one for someone to come to 2 times and break in, that they were either under the impression they had money (she had gotten an income tax refund), they had bought a vehicle and were selling another one, or perhaps one of them had said something to the wrong person. She kept saying, “It’s Charlotte” and that the cops said there were a lot of break-ins. She is more upset with her boyfriend being over at mental health, but I told her the cops check records, and she’s only known him for 2 yrs, even though she thinks he’s a saint. And in the time I’ve known him, about a year, he hasn’t done anything to warrant a second look from me.
But seemingly the same guys two times in the same little nothing place? I can’t convince her that this is probably not something out of the blue. She got upset with me that I was trying to blame her and him, which was not my intent, but trying to get her to go back in time to see if there was something said by either of them to the wrong person or if someone had a beef with either of them. Neither of them do drugs to our knowledge, just drink beer. I just have the feeling this is something “personal” for some reason, because they’ve just been living a pretty quiet life otherwise.
I just don’t think it was some random act. But stranger things have happened, I suppose.
89 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 2:04:23am |
re: #88 Justanotherhuman
Maybe the BF has some kind of history with the intruders, which he hasn’t shared with y’all. I gotta agree with you that a trailer being hit twice suggests the intruders are looking for something that they haven’t found yet.
Or they’re just trying to fuck with this guy’s head, which is why I think they have some history together — buddies, co-workers, school mates, or something.
90 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 2:14:46am |
re: #89 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Well, he’s originally from Charleston and hasn’t been in Charlotte but a few years. Doesn’t work, but they could have been guys he bumped into somewhere, which is what I was trying to tell my DIL, although she thinks they’re joined at the hip. She works and he doesn’t drive, but he’s home alone when she’s working. And my DIL can be a drama queen when bad things happen of any kind.
Sometimes I feel I’m losing trust in the entire human race, and I don’t want to feel that way, when things like this happen. When it gets down to 2 incidents of the strong preying on the seemingly weak in my world in 3 wks and I and someone close to me are victims of those types, it tends to make you feel that way, I suppose, and that there are more “predators” out there. We’ve all read about these kinds of incidents elsewhere when a word or gesture can drive another to a criminal act.
But I know that most people aren’t out to “get” others. Most of us just want to live “normal” lives and enjoy life.
91 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 2:18:47am |
re: #90 Justanotherhuman
There are some types who get their jollies from screwing around with other people, just schoolyard bullies who never outgrew that phase.
92 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 2:24:17am |
I wonder if the usual suspects will pick up on this story.
Federal agents crackdown on ‘birth tourism’ in California
Since the mothers involved are Chinese, probably not.
93 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 2:33:51am |
re: #92 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Yeah, esp since it’s probably conservative Orange County types running those for a neat profit.
94 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 2:35:33am |
re: #93 Justanotherhuman
Yeah, esp since it’s probably conservative Orange County types running those for a neat profit.
Ah, I missed that connection. That’s Orly Taitz’s home turf, IIRC.
95 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 2:37:58am |
BTW, Scarborough is running Benghazi! like crazy. You just know that Hillary Clinton used the wrong phone to try to contact those in Benghazi! to warn them. That’s his story and he’s sticking to it.
Christonacrutch.
96 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 2:39:23am |
And WTF, MSNBC? Having Scarborough report the earliest ‘news’ on your channel with his right-wing slant?
97 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 4, 2015 2:40:54am |
re: #96 Justanotherhuman
And WTF, MSNBC? Having Scarborough report the earliest ‘news’ on your channel with his right-wing slant?
LIE-BRUL MEEDIA!!!! strikes again!
98 | Lidane Mar 4, 2015 2:40:54am |
Somewhere out there, Pamela haz a sad:
Photoset: G. Willow Wilson @GWillowWilson Some amazing person has been painting over the anti-Muslim bus… http://t.co/oqX8TJEkho— BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS (@BRIANMBENDIS) March 4, 2015
99 | BeachDem Mar 4, 2015 2:41:37am |
re: #90 Justanotherhuman
Did the boyfriend seem to know the guys who were breaking in, or were they strangers to him? Could they possibly have been at the wrong place—I mean, might the intruders been looking for another address and been there somewhat randomly?
It does seem very strange that a random break-in, or two actually, would single out one trailer twice in three weeks in a park that big.
Is this DIL the mother of the granddaughter with the crazy in-laws? Could that bunch have anything to do with it?
Just thinking out loud…Sorry you have to deal with upsetting stuff like this.
100 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 2:43:54am |
As a sidebar to that “birth tourism” story, there are many well-to-do Chinese who give birth overseas to evade the one-child policy, or who see an American (or Canadian)-born child as an advantage. The woman who made such a splash with her pollution video, Chai Jing, took some heat for giving birth in the States. In her case, I assume she wanted better postnatal medical care for her daughter, who had a benign tumor in utero.
Such foreign births have a downside, because a foreign-born Chinese cannot get a national ID card (well, a legal one) or be considered a Chinese citizen. That presents some problems when it comes to schooling, university education and future job prospects. So, it’s really a choice that only rich Chinese can benefit from. For that matter, rich Chinese are about the only ones who can afford to live in the States for much longer than a few days.
101 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 2:46:41am |
re: #99 BeachDem
She did say at first she thought it was the crazy in-laws, but also said later she thought it was just “random” (which I don’t think it was). Twice in less than a week? No way. And she’s upset that the cops arrested her boyfriend for defending her and himself against the two. Well, not a technical arrest, but taken to mental health. No doubt he has flashbacks to the time he suffered a beat down from 4 sailors which disabled him and won him a case against the US Navy for damages 23 yrs ago.
102 | BeachDem Mar 4, 2015 2:51:19am |
re: #101 Justanotherhuman
She did say at first she thought it was the crazy in-laws, but also said later she thought it was just “random” (which I don’t think it was). Twice in less than a week? No way. And she’s upset that the cops arrested her boyfriend for defending her and himself against the two. Well, not a technical arrest, but taken to mental health. No doubt he has flashbacks to the time he suffered a beat down from 4 sailors which disabled him and won him a case against the US Navy for damages 23 yrs ago.
So it is the same branch of the family as the loonies—did the BF ever get into it with any of them? That would be my first suspicion. That the loons got somebody to mess with them. Really doesn’t sound random at all—particularly because, if it was indeed the same people the first time, the fact that they didn’t take anything sounds more like it was to scare them than to steal from them.
103 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 2:58:10am |
re: #102 BeachDem
He had been doing some landscaping work for my g-daughter’s husband who was cheating him on pay, so after a week of that, he refused to work any more. I wouldn’t put anything past that lot, and everyone in my family has warned my granddaughter about them. The father is a crook and brags about his “connections” with the cops, etc. Thinks he knows all about the law (well, probably how to get around it).
As of last Fri, the woman who attacked me had not been arrested. Now, I have to go to court Fri on trumped up complaints from her and my g-daughter’s husband. She claims I “scratched” her neck and he claims I broke his door (the storm door had no closer on it and was a POS anyway. She was pushing me out—I never got past the threshold and if I scratched her, it was accidental as I was trying to stay upright. Neither is true, of course, but at least if she shows up, they can arrest her in court on my complaint of assault. : )
104 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 3:03:10am |
Well, this is rich, coming from you, Pootie-poo.
Russia must be rid of disgrace, tragedies like Boris Nemtsov’s murder, President Putin says at interior ministry meeting - Interfax
end of alert
105 | BeachDem Mar 4, 2015 3:09:36am |
re: #103 Justanotherhuman
I wouldn’t put anything past that lot, and everyone in my family has warned my granddaughter about them. The father is a crook and brags about his “connections” with the cops, etc. : )
Maybe he does have connections, which would explain why they took the bf in and somehow let the intruder “escape.” I can’t believe they’re pursuing that crap with you. They sound just lovely. You’d think that crap would have opened your granddaughter’s eyes, but I know how hard those kind of situations can be.
Hope it all works out for the best—for you and for her.
WTF am I doing up? I just went to bed at 2 and woke up at 5:30—need to go back to sleep.
Hope it all works out
106 | Lidane Mar 4, 2015 3:10:44am |
Freepers are taking the House passing the “clean” DHS funding bill in their usual calm, rational manner:
We’ll just have to try harder next time. Those Dems know all the tricks. They’re always Lucy. We’re always Charlie Brown
—-McConnell and Boehner are so angry they’re taking Pelosi, Reid and Obama out for a big steak dinner to celebrate.
—Understand yet? REPUBLICANS ARE AN ENEMY.
They must be destroyed no less so than Democrats.
—So, was Boehner just using the Netenyahu speech as cover, hoping it would dominate the airwaves and he could slide this through with the least amount of press possible. I really hate that dude.
—If Bibi loses his election, bring him over here and let him be the Speaker—the only requirement for becoming Speaker is that the House members choose you, and that would be the ultimate smackdown of the lily-livered lickspittles.
—DUMP BOEHNER
Netanyahu for Speaker of the House
—The Pub’s are disgusting and very un-American.
—Netanyahu/King Abdullah 2016
—Yep, we’ve been betrayed. It’s official now. The GOP has now shown us that elections do not have consequences, and that they are afraid to stand on principle.
The USA is doomed.
—I think I want to burn Boehner in effigy. McConnell, too.
—I keep saying over and over again.
Elections will not fix what is broke in America.
The weeds have taken over our pastures and it is time to do some serious application(s) of herbicide to bring back our productive grasses.
The beltway filth have betrayed all of us again.
—It is hard to accept but it is now a certainty that the extremely evil left, the very evil GOPe and all who voted for this evil bill have overthrown our Republic as Founded.
The United States is being turned into a third world, balkinized anti-english, anti-Conservative, anti-white sewer.
There is no peaceful way back from the evil that has been unleashed across our land.
—OK, NOW is time to start shooting the bastards?
107 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 3:13:13am |
re: #106 Lidane
Freepers are taking the House passing the “clean” DHS funding bill in their usual calm, rational manner:
That’s what happens when you dwell within an echo chamber, you eventually lose all touch with reality. Only in their wildest fantasies was victory within their grasp.
108 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 3:13:32am |
re: #106 Lidane
Hate to go all Godwin here, but these are the people who would follow you know who in a NY minute.
109 | Lidane Mar 4, 2015 3:16:07am |
re: #108 Justanotherhuman
Hate to go all Godwin here, but these are the people who would follow you know who in a NY minute.
They’re convinced he’s in the Oval Office right now.
110 | BeachDem Mar 4, 2015 3:19:42am |
re: #106 Lidane
Freepers are taking the House passing the “clean” DHS funding bill in their usual calm, rational manner:
The weeds have taken over our pastures and it is time to do some serious application(s) of herbicide to bring back our productive grasses.
This one is hilarious—made me think of “Brawndo’s got what plants crave. It’s got electrolytes.”
111 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 3:19:55am |
re: #109 Lidane
They’re convinced he’s in the Oval Office right now.
I thought the latest meme was that he was Neville Chamberlain, while Bibi is Churchill?
112 | Dave In Austin Mar 4, 2015 3:21:22am |
Mom!!!! @Morning_Joe is being a Dick again!!!— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) March 4, 2015
113 | Lidane Mar 4, 2015 3:22:30am |
re: #111 Targetpractice
I thought the latest meme was that he was Neville Chamberlain, while Bibi is Churchill?
From what I’m seeing on the RWNJ sites, Boehner is Chamberlin, Bibi is Churchill and Obama is He Who Must Not Be Appeased.
114 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 3:23:03am |
re: #109 Lidane
Their ideology suggests it: “The weeds have taken over our pastures and it is time to do some serious application(s) of herbicide to bring back our productive grasses.”
“The United States is being turned into a third world, balkinized anti-english, anti-Conservative, anti-white sewer.”
“OK, NOW is time to start shooting the bastards?”
115 | Dr Lizardo Mar 4, 2015 3:29:29am |
re: #114 Justanotherhuman
Their ideology suggests it: “The weeds have taken over our pastures and it is time to do some serious application(s) of herbicide to bring back our productive grasses.”
“The United States is being turned into a third world, balkinized anti-english, anti-Conservative, anti-white sewer.”
“OK, NOW is time to start shooting the bastards?”
They talk a big game, those Freepers do…..but when push comes to shove, they’ll simply bitch aplenty on their keyboards. They’re cowards. All talk, no action.
It’s the ones who aren’t pissing and moaning on FR and Breitbrat, etc……those are the ones you gotta worry about.
116 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 3:33:20am |
re: #113 Lidane
From what I’m seeing on the RWNJ sites, Boehner is Chamberlin, Bibi is Churchill and Obama is He Who Must Not Be Appeased.
It really is a testament to how shred a conman Churchill could be that he’s convinced history of just how “right” he was about Hitler, despite the reality being that Chamberlain made the best deal he could manage. There was no “better deal” in 1938, it was either give Hitler what he demanded or go to war. There was no third option, no squeezing him until he agreed to their terms.
117 | BeachDem Mar 4, 2015 3:34:24am |
And now it’s official that they’re eating their own.
Conservative Group Lashes Out At GOP Establishment Over DHS Cave
And Ken Cuccinelli is leading the charge. Good times.
118 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 3:34:35am |
Heh, now my grandson is mad at me because he quoted a statute about protecting your home, and I told him that was a defense for the boyfriend and asked him what the charge was. Told him they would have to get a lawyer or argue the defense in court. Gave him the tel # for mental health.
{sigh}
119 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 3:35:36am |
re: #115 Dr Lizardo
OK. I don’t pay much attention to which sites are which. But there appear to be some who do have a fascist mindset, though. : )
120 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 3:44:15am |
First suspects in Nemtsov murder identified — Federal Security Service
WTF? This sounds a bit contradictory.
“The car sought in connection with the murder of Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov belongs to a federal state unitary enterprise (FSUE) providing services to the Finance Ministry, Goznak, the Russian state body that prints banknotes, and other agencies, the Finance Ministry said earlier on Wednesday.
“The Ford car we are talking about does not belong to the Finance Ministry,” the ministry’s press service told TASS. “This is a vehicle of an in-house security service, an independent FSUE providing services to the Finance Ministry, Goznak and other bodies.”
“At the moment the FSUE car was crossing the bridge, a patrol vehicle and police officers were already there,” the ministry noted.” More
121 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 3:49:13am |
Sabotage? It’s in Donetsk so it does make you wonder.
Rescue starts at Zasyadko mine in Donetsk after suspected methane explosion Video: http://t.co/7Y0kJhYJQU *GRAPHIC* pic.twitter.com/t7tKQMgAFc
— Ruptly (@Ruptly) March 4, 2015
122 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 3:56:06am |
So, why aren’t you investigating this, GG?
Brazil seeks to investigate 54 politicians in Petrobras scandal - @AFP
france24.com
123 | William Barnett-Lewis Mar 4, 2015 3:57:19am |
re: #115 Dr Lizardo
It’s the ones who aren’t pissing and moaning on FR and Breitbrat, etc……those are the ones you gotta worry about.
Yep, those are the real threat and we have more than a few of them out in the woods here in Wisconsin. They’re why I have my concealed carry license.
124 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 4, 2015 3:57:38am |
re: #122 Justanotherhuman
So, why aren’t you investigating this, GG?
Brazil seeks to investigate 54 politicians in Petrobras scandal - @AFP
france24.com
Give him time—he’s got to figure out some angle where the US is to blame first.
125 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 3:58:36am |
Times like these, I realize how much I’m gonna miss this guy:
Stewart: GOP Response To Netanyahu Is The Longest Blowjob A Jewish Man Ever Received http://t.co/j9CtW4EIm8 pic.twitter.com/nhFMharuN7— Crooks and Liars (@crooksandliars) March 4, 2015
126 | Eventual Carrion Mar 4, 2015 4:19:52am |
re: #29 Charles Johnson
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The loons are barking at the moon tonight.
So by that logic, if you criticize Obama you hate America.
127 | Eventual Carrion Mar 4, 2015 4:20:34am |
re: #30 RealityBasedSteve
But if you criticize Obama, it’s because you love America.
RBS
I need to read down a few before posting.
128 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 4:40:30am |
Bank of Canada spokesperson says writing on bills “inappropriate” as @TheRealNimoy fans start #Spocking pic.twitter.com/wEbu9SCasQ— BBC Trending (@BBCtrending) March 4, 2015
129 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 4:43:43am |
re: #126 Eventual Carrion
So by that logic, if you criticize Obama you hate America.
They believe that:
It is not unpatriotic to disagree with or criticize the President. It's actually one of the most patriotic things you can do. #YCOT #TCOT— Preppy Republican (@FuturePotus19) March 4, 2015
130 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 4:45:08am |
re: #129 The Mother Of All Pies
They believe that:
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Coming from the folks who wanted people who criticized Bush to be prosecuted for treason.
131 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 4:48:45am |
re: #129 The Mother Of All Pies
They believe that:
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They used to scream bloody murder if you questioned Dubya because “the terrorists win!” I can’t remember how many I saw wig the fuck out when told “dissent is patriotic.”
132 | Dark_Falcon Mar 4, 2015 4:51:10am |
re: #95 Justanotherhuman
BTW, Scarborough is running Benghazi! like crazy. You just know that Hillary Clinton used the wrong phone to try to contact those in Benghazi! to warn them. That’s his story and he’s sticking to it.
Christonacrutch.
Better to focus on what can be done now to help rid Benghazi of Islamist radicals. The events of 30 months ago are in the past, and blame flinging won’t bring those died that day back. Let’s focus on how to kill their killers.
133 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 4:52:10am |
re: #129 The Mother Of All Pies
They believe that:
It is not unpatriotic to disagree with or criticize the President. It’s actually one of the most patriotic things you can do.
But these people do even want to recognize him as a legally elected president: they see him as an illegal alien, a usurper, a threat to America who needs to be removed, by force if necessary.
134 | Dark_Falcon Mar 4, 2015 4:54:08am |
And today’s history story:
Wreck of legendary Japanese battleship Musashi found by Microsoft billionaire: Paul Allen uses his own submarine to locate flagship that US forces sank with 1,000 men on board in WWII Battle of Leyte Gulf
Allen posted a picture to Twitter showing World War II ship’s rusting bow
Musashi, the Japanese Navy’s biggest battleship, was sunk in 1944
It lay undiscovered on the floor of the Sibuyan Sea for the past 70 years
Billionaire Allen has now used his personal submarine to find the ship
Discovery brings to an end Allen’s eight year search for the Musashi
135 | wrenchwench Mar 4, 2015 5:09:58am |
The joy of #innovation pic.twitter.com/8wkMqh3Mkl— Calestous Juma (@calestous) March 4, 2015
136 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 5:13:43am |
Detroit native Dr. Ben Carson: “A lot of people go into prison straight and when they come out, they’re gay” http://t.co/w6jz3xU7gY— Niraj Warikoo (@nwarikoo) March 4, 2015
137 | wrenchwench Mar 4, 2015 5:17:39am |
re: #132 Dark_Falcon
Better to focus on what can be done now to help rid Benghazi of Islamist radicals. The events of 30 months ago are in the past, and blame flinging won’t bring those died that day back. Let’s focus on how to kill their killers.
Suicide bomber targets a security barrier & a surprise attack on the port of #Benghazi. http://t.co/7UPnGCjhj8 pic.twitter.com/Clsd8I62Vy— Alwasat (@alwasatengnews) March 4, 2015
138 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 5:19:49am |
The @GOP are still on cloud nine today with the faint scent of #Netanyahu's ass on their lips. #BFF #GOPKing
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) March 4, 2015
139 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 5:20:43am |
re: #95 Justanotherhuman
BTW, Scarborough is running Benghazi! like crazy. You just know that Hillary Clinton used the wrong phone to try to contact those in Benghazi! to warn them. That’s his story and he’s sticking to it.
Christonacrutch.
You just boosted Dead Intern Joe’s ratings to 12……12 people.
140 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 5:21:01am |
re: #136 The Mother Of All Pies
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141 | wrenchwench Mar 4, 2015 5:23:06am |
Tell Mothersbaugh, spreading the good news of devolution can be dangerous.
Influential #Mozambique Lawyer Who Supported Devolution Shot Dead http://t.co/Pz5KabCuwp via @allafrica pic.twitter.com/zGhuAEjQg1— Calestous Juma (@calestous) March 4, 2015
142 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 5:26:59am |
I see this morning #UniteBlue is retweeting the batshit Neturei Karta, the Jewish Westboro cult:
Despite snow massive success @ #MassJewishRallyNYC declaring: @Netanyahu or #IsraelDoesntSpeakForUs #NetanyahuSpeech pic.twitter.com/bjiFenkynB— True Torah Jews (@TrueTorahJews) March 4, 2015
143 | Nyet Mar 4, 2015 5:40:35am |
re: #120 Justanotherhuman
It’s not the car which picked up the killer, it’s another car that the investigators found suspicious because they spotted it several times here and there around the spot of the murder in the video recordings. (Well, acc. to what I’m reading.)
145 | wrenchwench Mar 4, 2015 5:51:41am |
re: #136 The Mother Of All Pies
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One day, people will look back and ask when this campaign ended. That day is today. http://t.co/t7lZod8y2F— Goldie Taylor © (@goldietaylor) March 4, 2015
146 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 5:51:51am |
re: #136 The Mother Of All Pies
Ergo, don’t send people to prison, I suppose. Or make prison totally co-ed — except the showers and bathrooms, of course.
This man is a brain surgeon?
147 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 5:55:32am |
Carson realizes his stock will rise by making more and more offensive and inflammatory comments.
148 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 6:00:42am |
re: #146 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Ergo, don’t send people to prison, I suppose. Or make prison totally co-ed — except the showers and bathrooms, of course.
This man is a brain surgeon?
I collaborate with several surgeons and it’s no coincidence that many of them are wingnuts. They are brilliant at their craft, but the god-complex is not a stereotype. Early this year one of them walked into a meeting and declared out loud, “I spent the day saving lives”. He’s a Rand Paul fan.
149 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 6:03:04am |
re: #134 Dark_Falcon
That’s just plain cool. I like billionaires who use their vast wealth and obsessions to give something back to the world, even if there is no obvious practical use for it.
As long as Allen doesn’t turn into a real life Captain Nemo, at least.
I wonder what Japan’s reaction has been to the discovery.
150 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 6:06:12am |
Today could be a good day for “people who get angry at the thought of poor people going to the doctor.” http://t.co/XccKxYddTA
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) March 4, 2015
151 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 6:06:17am |
.@HuffPostPol Homer Simpson called. He'd like his gun now. Doesn't want to wait for something silly like background check.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 4, 2015
152 | wrenchwench Mar 4, 2015 6:06:19am |
New monkey species discovered by @CLPawards in the Amazon Rainforest http://t.co/vQ2SwXKnzg pic.twitter.com/NVpg19XHx7— BirdLife (@BirdLife_News) March 4, 2015
153 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 6:06:43am |
re: #150 Dr. Matt
Unless that's your intention; to screw up a valid law with drafting error that everyone understood at time wouldn't stop subsidies for all— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 4, 2015
154 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 6:07:16am |
re: #148 Dr. Matt
I collaborate with several surgeons and it’s no coincidence that many of them are wingnuts. They are brilliant at their craft, but the god-complex is not a stereotype. Early this year one of them walked into a meeting and declared out loud, “I spent the day saving lives”. He’s a Rand Paul fan.
Yeah, I know a couple of surgeons, too. They’re a cocky bunch. Within their specialty, that’s a good thing. Once outside their specialty, they’re just insufferable.
But Carson is a special case. He’s a pulpit-thumping brain surgeon; he’s extra cocky (and insufferable) because he has God on his side.
He’s not the kind of man who should lead a democratic, pluralistic country.
155 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 6:17:37am |
I can just imagine the Pamela Gellars of the world shrieking in agony:
New York to Add Two Muslim Holy Days to Public School Calendar http://t.co/yDcLEBiPKK— NYT Metro Desk (@NYTMetro) March 4, 2015
The same rules that allow the NYC public schools to set up school holidays for Jewish holidays also apply to Islamic holidays, Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha. As well as Christian holidays. But that wont stop the Islamophobes from crying creeping Sharia.
156 | ObserverArt Mar 4, 2015 6:19:06am |
Morning!
Not much to say other than Joey Scarborough absolutely hates him some Clintons. It doesn’t matter which one.
I think it all goes back to when he was in congress and he was one of the Newty Gingrich “Contract with America” gang. We all know how that turned out.
Add in big Bill managed to escape the Monica scandal and impeachment and Joe ended up resigning under heavy questions about the young women found dead in his Florida office and if he had an affair going on.
He did a “Palin” and resigned early in his last term and said it was due to family needs.
Overall, I think Joey is just pissed off that he never was seen as a political god he thought he was and never will be. He probably thinks he is way more sharp and cunning than a Clinton or an Obama and yet here he is, sitting in a studio day after day trying hard to be someone and he really isn’t. He’s just a cleaned-up version of the same wackos you see mouthing off in a comment section on some web site.
And he also seems to be suffering from the dreaded “I will always be a finely dressed 22 year old frat boy” at 50+.
Life is hard on Joey! We should all feel sorry for him. But we don’t, and it just chaffs his ass.
157 | Higgs Boson's Mate Mar 4, 2015 6:28:54am |
re: #148 Dr. Matt
I collaborate with several surgeons and it’s no coincidence that many of them are wingnuts. They are brilliant at their craft, but the god-complex is not a stereotype. Early this year one of them walked into a meeting and declared out loud, “I spent the day saving lives”. He’s a Rand Paul fan.
Speaking from the experience of doing IT/MIS for a West Side cosmetic surgery practice, I couldn’t agree more. Admirals in the USN are Bodhisattvas compared to surgeons.
158 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 4, 2015 6:32:30am |
re: #58 Ace-o-aces, as well as a bunch of others
It’s worth keeping in mind that the writers are well aware of your criticisms. They have about 40 minutes to tell a story that would unfold over weeks in real life, while keeping it interesting and perky enough to keep viewers from changing the channel. This gripe goes back almost as far as people have been writing crime shows. For the record, I’m amused at all the typing they do instead of clicking on things.
159 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 6:33:25am |
re: #156 ObserverArt
Morning!
Not much to say other than Joey Scarborough absolutely hates him some Clintons. It doesn’t matter which one.
I think it all goes back to when he was in congress and he was one of the Newty Gingrich “Contract with America” gang. We all know how that turned out.
Add in big Bill managed to escape the Monica scandal and impeachment and Joe ended up resigning under heavy questions about the young women found dead in his Florida office and if he had an affair going on.
He did a “Palin” and resigned early in his last term and said it was due to family needs.
Overall, I think Joey is just pissed off that he never was seen as a political god he thought he was and never will be. He probably thinks he is way more sharp and cunning than a Clinton or an Obama and yet here he is, sitting in a studio day after day trying hard to be someone and he really isn’t. He’s just a cleaned-up version of the same wackos you see mouthing off in a comment section on some web site.
And he also seems to be suffering from the dreaded “I will always be a finely dressed 22 year old frat boy” at 50+.
Life is hard on Joey! We should all feel sorry for him. But we don’t, and it just chaffs his ass.
Whenever some rocket scientist like KT would spout off about how MSNBC is just like Fox, I’d look at Morning Joe and think “Please show me the equivalent show on Fox.”
The closet they ever came was when Alan Colmes was playing his punching bag-fake liberal routine with Hannity.
160 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 6:34:01am |
re: #157 Higgs Boson’s Mate
Speaking from the experience of doing IT/MIS for a West Side cosmetic surgery practice, I couldn’t agree more. Admirals in the USN are Bodhisattvas compared to surgeons.
Oy. Cosmetic surgeons are not only arrogant, they also make a shit-ton of money without the hassles of dealing with insurance companies. Most of their clientele comes for elective surgery, cash in hand.
161 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 6:34:23am |
re: #136 The Mother Of All Pies
Starting to think Dr. Ben has a bit of a gay fixation.
162 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 6:36:45am |
re: #161 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
Starting to think Dr. Ben has a bit of a gay fixation.
Was just chatting with a friend who was very big on Ben until I showed her that article. She tells me it is just typical of blacks of his generation.
I see: once you go black and gay, you can’t go back and say “It was a mistake!”
163 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 6:37:00am |
164 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 4, 2015 6:37:11am |
re: #158 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Also for the record, I’m constantly trying to get my employees to use the mouse less and learn keyboard shortcuts. For a couple of reasons. I feel that people understand what they’re actually doing when they use the shortcuts. When I hear somebody say you click here and there, there is no explanation of what actually happened. Also, I have people who wind up with the same file open multiple times on the same PC because they don’t see the little thingy on the task bar and they reopen it. If they would Alt+tab to go through the open files, that would never happen.
165 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 6:42:40am |
re: #164 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Also for the record, I’m constantly trying to get my employees to use the mouse less and learn keyboard shortcuts. For a couple of reasons. I feel that people understand what they’re actually doing when they use the shortcuts. When I hear somebody say you click here and there, there is no explanation of what actually happened. Also, I have people who wind up with the same file open multiple times on the same PC because they don’t see the little thingy on the task bar and they reopen it. If they would Alt+tab to go through the open files, that would never happen.
Preaching to the choir, brother.
I’m tutoring someone in Illustrator and Photoshop right now. I have to stop and re-learn where the actual menu commands are due to my heavy use of keyboard shortcuts.
If you watch me work, the menu bar lights up like a Christmas tree. If a program doesn’t’ have a shortcut, I’ll dive into the preferences and make it.
166 | Varek Raith Mar 4, 2015 6:44:53am |
re: #164 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
You can have my mouse when you pry it from mah cold, dead hands!
167 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 6:45:15am |
re: #158 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
, as well as a bunch of others
It’s worth keeping in mind that the writers are well aware of your criticisms. They have about 40 minutes to tell a story that would unfold over weeks in real life, while keeping it interesting and perky enough to keep viewers from changing the channel. This gripe goes back almost as far as people have been writing crime shows. For the record, I’m amused at all the typing they do instead of clicking on things.
They should just pick up the mouse and talk to it.
168 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 6:46:56am |
re: #163 Mattand
And since I’m in such a sun-shiney mood (6 to 10 inches of snow for South Jersey tonight, yay), I’m calling it now: the ACA is dead. Roberts is going to decide that his bona-fides as a True ConservativeTM is worth destroying health care for poor people.
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The court challenge makes absolutely no sense. The plaintiffs make no sense. Which is why the court will probably agree with the plaintiffs and gut the federal subsidies.
169 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 6:48:22am |
re: #168 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
The court challenge makes absolutely no sense. The plaintiffs make no sense. Which is why the court will probably agree with the plaintiffs and gut the federal subsidies.
Only in the USA could such a thing happen.
170 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 6:48:38am |
re: #166 Varek Raith
You can have my mouse when you pry it from mah cold, dead hands!
Come to the keyboard side!!!!
171 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 4, 2015 6:50:49am |
re: #155 lawhawk
I can just imagine the Pamela Gellars of the world shrieking in agony:
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The same rules that allow the NYC public schools to set up school holidays for Jewish holidays also apply to Islamic holidays, Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha. As well as Christian holidays. But that wont stop the Islamophobes from crying creeping Sharia.
I’m waiting for Darwin Day.
172 | Varek Raith Mar 4, 2015 6:51:03am |
173 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 6:51:09am |
re: #136 The Mother Of All Pies
Because in prison when men and women are locked up together the men choose the men and outside of prison when men choose men instead of women they choose and so…wait, whut?
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174 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 6:52:51am |
re: #168 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
The court challenge makes absolutely no sense. The plaintiffs make no sense. Which is why the court will probably agree with the plaintiffs and gut the federal subsidies.
I think the fact the SCOTUS swooped in like a flock of starving vultures on 8 day old road kill to take up the case speaks volumes. The Scalia Gang are nothing but dedicated to their judicial activism.
What kills me is that whatever solution the GOP comes up with, it most like likely will be the ACA with the name plate changed.
Swear to Christ, it’ll be like someone taking away your serviceable Honda (not the best, but gets you to Point B from Point A without having to walk), and they replace with it a junker with the name “Honda” spray painted on the hood.
175 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 6:53:27am |
176 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 6:54:43am |
LOL, let’s see how long Charles’s servers take to update a typo!
177 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 6:55:25am |
178 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 6:56:01am |
179 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 6:56:06am |
180 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 6:57:58am |
182 | Higgs Boson's Mate Mar 4, 2015 6:59:25am |
re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Oy. Cosmetic surgeons are not only arrogant, they also make a shit-ton of money without the hassles of dealing with insurance companies. Most of their clientele comes for elective surgery, cash in hand.
This outfit would not take insurance, period. One of the projects I undertook was making the practice HIPAA compliant which was when I found out that the top surgeon and owner apparently suffered physical pain when he had to spend more than fifty bucks for a new piece of gear. This man lived in a seven million dollar beach house, owned a home in Aspen, etc. because he deserved such things whereas I was an irresponsible nerd who was just wanted new toys.
183 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 4, 2015 6:59:35am |
184 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 7:00:58am |
From the Alabama SC SSM decision:
It accused other courts of employing “sleight of hand” to confer “fundamental-rights status on a concept of marriage divorced from its traditional understanding.”
So expanding rights is bad. Except don’t tread on me. Freedom. Less government. And gun rights. And here is our Personhood Bill Law to guarantee all the Constitutional rights at the moment of conception.
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185 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 7:01:39am |
You kids with your mouses. I remember using programs which didn’t even support a mouse!
(I am 27 but I’ve been using computers since I was 4 or so.)
186 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 7:03:12am |
re: #185 Timothy Watson
You kids with your mouses. I remember using programs which didn’t even support a mouse!
(I am 27 but I’ve been using computers since I was 4 or so.)
I remember using a computer that did not have a monitor, but a paper roll output (PDP-11)
GET OFF MY LAWN!!
187 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 4, 2015 7:03:57am |
re: #186 The Mother Of All Pies
I remember using a computer that did not have a monitor, but a paper roll output (PDP-11)
GET OFF MY LAWN!!
Punch cards.
188 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 7:04:18am |
Speaking of keyboards, the Final Jeopardy question last night: The one state which can be spelled using only one row on a standard keyboard.
I figured it out, but after the time ran out but before the one person who got it right’s answer was revealed. :/
190 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 7:07:31am |
191 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 7:07:57am |
re: #187 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Punch cards.
My dad, who graduated from VCU way back in the early and mid ’70s (associate’s degree in 1972 and bachelor’s in 1975 I think) talks about hating using the punch cards because he wouldn’t get a notice of an error until the program had ran and messing up the order of the cards.
Reminds me of this clip from “The Simpsons”:
criticalcommons.org
192 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 7:08:26am |
Hey, I used a Wang word processor. That’s how old I am. : )
193 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 7:09:23am |
re: #163 Mattand
yeah I’m also in a very sunshiny mood today, all week really. I think it’s because my body expects the weather to be nicer, to start to feel like Spring. But the Baltimore-DC corridor is supposed to get 4-8 inches of snow tonight, there is still ice on the ground all over, and my FO who has cancer is not eating again and the cancer appears to have moved to her eye. Took her to the vet yesterday because of her not eating and because she had the sneezes and vet noticed the eye. So I’ll probably try to end up taking her to the vet specialist tomorrow during the snow. Poor sweet baby has had such a tough time this past year.
194 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 4, 2015 7:09:30am |
re: #190 The Mother Of All Pies
I used those too.
I came in just as punch cards were going out. The company I worked for required card decks for certain large-output debugging jobs, mostly to make the process so annoying that only the absolutely necessary jobs got submitted.
195 | Higgs Boson's Mate Mar 4, 2015 7:09:41am |
re: #187 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Punch cards.
COBOL. Learned it when I was in my twenties and then moved on. Made me some nice side money in the run up to Y2K.
196 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 7:09:44am |
re: #192 Justanotherhuman
Heh, you’re not alone in that. I remember using tape cassettes for storing data/programs. And when floppy disks came out, you could put a whopping 360k on them. If you knew how to hack them, you could get double sided disks - 720k.
197 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 4, 2015 7:10:49am |
re: #192 Justanotherhuman
Hey, I used a Wang word processor. That’s how old I am. : )
I’m so old I remember this joke:
“Did you know that there are personal computers in the Bible?”
“No. Where?”
“In the Garden of Eden. Eve had an Apple and Adam had a Wang.”
198 | darthstar Mar 4, 2015 7:11:06am |
Boehnerworld though toughest was behind them. now, he has a conference willing to ditch him, senate on another page http://t.co/lUnGOAyena— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) March 4, 2015
@JakeSherman Ask your doctor if treatment for a weakened Boehner is right for you.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) March 4, 2015
200 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 7:11:48am |
My first exposure to computers was this state-of-the-art machine in grade school in the late 70s/early 80s.
201 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 7:15:38am |
Hail showers here on the Rhine
202 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 7:17:48am |
PDP-8 in high school, IBM punch cards at university, Comptronic (?) word processing system for newspapers — those were my computer experiences before my dad bought each of us a Commodore VIC-20 in like 1981 or so.
203 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 7:18:52am |
My first home computer was a TRS-80 with a 300-baud acoustic coupler.
205 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 7:20:33am |
re: #203 The Mother Of All Pies
My first home computer was a TRS-80 with a 300-baud acoustic coupler.
I remember what a thrill getting a 14,400-baud modem was.
206 | SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 4, 2015 7:21:09am |
One of the few things I remember about Drexel University (I went there for three years) was learned FORTAN in computer science I. That was 1983. In 2012, Computer science ! at Community College of Philadelphia was all about Office. By far more useful.
207 | ObserverArt Mar 4, 2015 7:22:01am |
I was dragged into the computer world when the shift in graphic arts was beginning to go to computers around 1990. First computer I used had DOS loaded and Windows 3. I had no clue what I was doing but I dove in and started banging. I found out being logical helped, so it didn’t take long to understand how they worked.
Thinking back, one of the things that helped me learn about computers was having to learn DOS commands. That taught me all about command structure which made me understand what I was doing with a mouse touching those neat little icons.
As I have mentioned before, the other thing that really helped me was having to use DOS/Windows and Intel PCs instead of Macs which were dominant in the graphics world. It was tough getting output so I had to learn all kinds of tricks that a Mac user would never need. It all taught me a lot.
And I was also glad that I came from the old-school of typesetting, paste-up, film-based photography, air-brush retouching, etc. because I actually knew what a lot of Photoshop and Pagemaker (typesetting) tools and terms meant.
A lot of folks have no idea that dodging and burning, unsharp masking, etc were old time tricks used in developing photo prints.
I knoes mah roots!
And now I need to go and actually do something with all of this stuff. Later! I’ll be checking in to see what’s going on with things like the ACA…
208 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 7:22:23am |
re: #206 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
One of the few things I remember about Drexel University (I went there for three years) was learned FORTAN in computer science I. That was 1983. In 2012, Computer science ! at Community College of Philadelphia was all about Office. By far more useful.
My first 2 jobs were programming in FORTRAN.
210 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 7:23:32am |
Oh and graphics.
I used to program graphics charts pixel by pixel on an amber monochrome VT220 terminal.
Now I program using MS Chart Controls.
211 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 7:24:06am |
re: #204 Justanotherhuman
Look at these idiots…
Look at the eyes. Empty eyes. Lights are on, but no one is home. Scary.
212 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 7:24:19am |
re: #209 Nyet
Brain surgeon without a brain. You can’t explain that!
And he hates healthcare for people, too.
213 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 7:24:36am |
re: #204 Justanotherhuman
Look at these idiots…
From the BBC:
Independent studies by the Urban Institute and the Rand Corporation estimate eight million people would lose insurance if the court rules for the plaintiff.
There will be a lot of very angry people if the Court rules the wrong way. I hope the Democrats can make it clear who was responsible.
214 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 7:26:00am |
re: #213 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
From the BBC:
There will be a lot of very angry people if the Court rules the wrong way. I hope the Democrats can make it clear who was responsible.
The Democrats will try, but the people will come to understand that it was Obama’s fault for letting them think they were worthy of it in the first place.
215 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 7:26:11am |
re: #206 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
One of the few things I remember about Drexel University (I went there for three years) was learned FORTAN in computer science I. That was 1983. In 2012, Computer science ! at Community College of Philadelphia was all about Office. By far more useful.
Believe it or not, all university students in China are required to pass a national computer science exam .. in Visual FoxPro.
216 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 7:27:20am |
217 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 7:27:40am |
Pretty cool the GOP is skipping the 2016 election and just going ahead with impeaching Hillary now.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) March 4, 2015
218 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 7:28:31am |
re: #216 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
I am not filled with confidence.
Neither am I. I think too many will take serious all the Republican BS about having a “plan” ready in time for the ruling’s announcement in June, or think they can work with Republicans to come up with one.
219 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 7:30:29am |
re: #216 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
I am not filled with confidence.
Nor am I. The Democrats do a crappy job in pointing fingers at the GOP, and using GOP sabotage to the Dems’ own advantage.
220 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 7:32:06am |
re: #218 Targetpractice
Neither am I. I think too many will take serious all the Republican BS about having a “plan” ready in time for the ruling’s announcement in June, or think they can work with Republicans to come up with one.
I suspect some states would act to create their own exchanges to be eligible for the subsidies. I just expect the GOP congress to demand, again, Full Repeal!!!!1.
221 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 7:32:42am |
My first home computer was a Mac Quadra. For a $2K investment, it wasn’t as good as this $400 laptop and ran on a 27K dial-up modem. It didn’t support very much software and I couldn’t email resumes without them being garbled on the other end. Don’t know why I bought it in the first place and spent so much money. The monitor conked out after 3 yrs and I was unable to replace it, even bought a battery replacement and that didn’t work.
222 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 7:33:43am |
re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Hail showers here on the Rhine
“Hail showers on the Rhine” would be a great title for an alternative history book.
223 | wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality Mar 4, 2015 7:34:19am |
re: #220 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
I suspect some states would act to create their own exchanges to be eligible for the subsidies. I just expect the GOP congress to demand, again, Full Repeal!!!!1.
I doubt the red states will create exchanges. The GOP is in lockstep nationally.
224 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 7:39:37am |
The Party that hates the government and government “overreach” is now having a meltdown over someone using a private email account. How cute.
225 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 7:39:47am |
Back in the office today and I get to hear the person in the office next to me cackling on the phone all day.
Just shoot me.
226 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 7:40:36am |
klys will like this
Our supporters are so talented! —> RT @ShannonDowney My 8bit lady heroes series continues for #WomensHistoryMonth pic.twitter.com/3lVj50vy3e— Malala Fund (@MalalaFund) March 4, 2015
227 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 7:40:40am |
re: #220 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
I suspect some states would act to create their own exchanges to be eligible for the subsidies. I just expect the GOP congress to demand, again, Full Repeal!!!!1.
I don’t see many states rushing to create exchanges, even those red states that have given in on the Medicaid expansion, due to the cost and technical issues. Perhaps they might try an end-run by passing laws that say the federal exchange will be treated as a state exchange, but I expect the same forces behind King will file lawsuits in those states.
228 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 7:41:22am |
re: #224 Dr. Matt
Yeah, they’re going full bore on Hillary/Benghazi! Liberal press, for ya.
229 | Jenner7 Mar 4, 2015 7:41:39am |
re: #188 Timothy Watson
Ha! We paused it and took a minute and a half staring at my keyboard. lol My daughter started naming off states in alphabetical order and we got it.
230 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 7:43:17am |
re: #227 Targetpractice
I don’t see many states rushing to create exchanges, even those red states that have given in on the Medicaid expansion, due to the cost and technical issues. Perhaps they might try an end-run by passing laws that say the federal exchange will be treated as a state exchange, but I expect the same forces behind King will file lawsuits in those states.
Don’t Tred on me by making me eligible for subsidies!!!!1
231 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 7:44:35am |
Wut?
US Justice Anthony Kennedy says there is a ‘serious constitutional problem’ with health care law challenge, says may win anyway - @Reuters
end of alert
232 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 7:44:50am |
What would happen if Ben Carson & Bryan Fischer would be locked in a cell together?
The Gay Gestapo will now set out to destroy Ben Carson. Kristallnacht continues.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) March 4, 2015
233 | #FergusonFireside Mar 4, 2015 7:45:30am |
So Roorda was on Carol Costello this am. He was pretty much speechless, spurting a couple of bullshit lines, & she called him on it. I have no idea what he was planning to say to justify the DOJ report.
When I first saw him I was AAARGH, then he face planted.
234 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 7:45:51am |
Shouldn’t these be labeled “supporters” of ACA?
Protesters outside the Supreme Court. Photo by @dougmillsnyt http://t.co/WxRU7muzgh @nytpolitics @nytimesphoto pic.twitter.com/hQ4KtRhzpR
— Thomas Simonetti (@thomassimonetti) March 4, 2015
235 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 7:46:15am |
re: #232 The Mother Of All Pies
What would happen if Ben Carson & Bryan Fischer would be locked in a cell together?
The Gay Gestapo will now set out to destroy Ben Carson. Kristallnacht continues.
Fischerspeak for the uninitiated:
“Destroy” = “making person own up to their idiotic statements”
236 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 7:46:39am |
Half way thru #King, court is split on ideological lines. No clear majority. CJ Roberts silent. One Kennedy question favors the govt.— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) March 4, 2015
237 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 7:48:27am |
New post: First mid-argument update: King v. Burwell http://t.co/XsZIbPcTB9— SCOTUSblog's Posts (@SCOTUSblogposts) March 4, 2015
238 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 7:50:19am |
239 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 7:50:52am |
re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yeah, it appears Kennedy may be the key, but see above: It appears he may rule for the challengers if the 4 liberals don’t convince him about context.
240 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 7:51:17am |
re: #193 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
Ugh. Sorry to hear that. Hope everything works out.
241 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 7:51:19am |
re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth
What Kennedy said:
…Justice Kennedy expressed deep concern with a system where the statute would potentially destroy the insurance system in states that chose not to establish their own exchanges - likening this to an unconstitutional form of federal coercion. While Justice Kennedy also suggested that perhaps this reading could not be avoided, his skepticism suggests that both sides will be trying hard to get his critical vote.
242 | #FergusonFireside Mar 4, 2015 7:51:33am |
Did the the legitimacy of the petitioners come up yet? Sorry, working & reading quickly.
243 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 7:51:42am |
God has defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman. What he has defined, man may not redefine. #IStandWithBenCarson— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) March 4, 2015
Actually not.
@Concerned3013 So gotta stick with “biblical marriage,” huh? Which version? #marriage #EQUALITYFORALL #TheBible pic.twitter.com/KaWoh9I9bi— Atheistic One (@atheistic_1) March 3, 2015
244 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 7:52:22am |
re: #116 Targetpractice
It really is a testament to how shred a conman Churchill could be that he’s convinced history of just how “right” he was about Hitler, despite the reality being that Chamberlain made the best deal he could manage. There was no “better deal” in 1938, it was either give Hitler what he demanded or go to war. There was no third option, no squeezing him until he agreed to their terms.
There is still a debate about whether Hitler and Germany should have been confronted in 1938 (or 1936) as compared to waiting until 1939 (as was done historically.)
Shirer’s _Rise and Fall of the Third Reich_ is of the former in arguing that while England and France were weak in 1938, so still was Germany in terms of rearming and having their army and air force built up. Especially so since they had not yet subsumed the Czechaslovakian arms industry and tank production capabilities. Along with the standard discussion on what would have happened if Hitler’s bluster would have been called at an earlier point - would the generals have been willing to turn on him?
France and England were wary of war due to the Depression and the lingering effects of the carnage of WW1. Germany was still suffering from that as well. And Hitler’s reputation was still not at its peak from challenging the other European powers and watching them back down again and again.
245 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 7:52:54am |
re: #243 The Mother Of All Pies
Well, my position is that man made up God, so…we can change our minds any time we please.
246 | RealityBasedSteve Mar 4, 2015 7:53:21am |
I’m going out for a coffee. Anybody want anything?
RBS
247 | Mattand Mar 4, 2015 7:53:49am |
re: #205 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
I remember what a thrill getting a 14,400-baud modem was.
My first tech-savvy, I-know-what-I’m-doing hardware purchase was a 28.8 modem that could be flash ROMd to 33.6, or whatever it was.
248 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 7:54:30am |
re: #243 The Mother Of All Pies
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God defined it last week, in one of Brother Fischer’s dreams. You weren’t there.
249 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 7:55:18am |
Fischer and those like him really need to get the fuck over it. This whole idea about “God” deeming gay marriage unnatural. Well assholes, you and your ideological ancestors argued that the Bible forbade interracial marriage. And furthermore what the Bible says has no bearing on secular law. I know it chaps your ass Bryan but we don’t live in a society like Saudi Arabia where the church and state are joined at the hip.
250 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 7:55:24am |
re: #228 Justanotherhuman
Yeah, they’re going full bore on Hillary/Benghazi! Liberal press, for ya.
Morning Joe had a Benghazi-orgasm live on TV.
251 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 7:55:29am |
re: #122 Justanotherhuman
So, why aren’t you investigating this, GG?
Brazil seeks to investigate 54 politicians in Petrobras scandal - @AFP
france24.com
That’s a pretty big internal one brewing there. And it has been expanding over to other industries. With a general muzzling effect on the Brazilian economy.
Seeing that here since the company I work for is 40-some% owned by Petrobras. And since they use Petrobras feedstock for making plastics there are other effects since there are a number of contracts that need to be settled with the approval of the new Petrobras CEO, who is not a oil guy.
253 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 7:56:20am |
Standing has come up in a couple of instances.
I’m not sure about Kennedy though. According to this:
Justice Kennedy says he sees “a serious constitutional problem” in the idea Congress would force states to set up exchanges or risk their residents losing tax credits. The suggestion could spell trouble for the challengers. In the prior health-care ruling, the court said Congress can’t put excessive financial pressure on states to do certain things.
That seems to actually work in Obamacare’s favor because the forced reading by the right wingers that this drafting error would invalidate the subsidies, which is something that the Court has previously said that Congress can’t do.
254 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 7:56:38am |
re: #243 The Mother Of All Pies
God has defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman. What he has defined, man may not redefine.]
You may continue to refuse to acknowledge that gay people are married in the eyes of the Lord, but you must accept that they are married in the eyes of the law.
255 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 7:58:04am |
re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
You may continue to refuse to acknowledge that gay people are married in the eyes of the Lord, but you must accept that they are married in the eyes of the law.
Exactly. He’s free to believe what he wants to believe about gay couples in a religious sense but he cannot use his religious beliefs as the reason for denying them the secular benefits and name of marriage. He also needs to come out of the closet.
256 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 7:59:19am |
re: #149 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
That’s just plain cool. I like billionaires who use their vast wealth and obsessions to give something back to the world, even if there is no obvious practical use for it.
As long as Allen doesn’t turn into a real life Captain Nemo, at least.
I wonder what Japan’s reaction has been to the discovery.
Should be declared a war grave and left alone.
257 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 8:01:45am |
re: #255 HappyWarrior
Exactly. He’s free to believe what he wants to believe about gay couples in a religious sense but he cannot use his religious beliefs as the reason for denying them the secular benefits and name of marriage. He also needs to come out of the closet.
There was a time when the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony and the civil status of marriage were identical. But not in a modern, secular society.
Which is the root cause of most of BF’s gripes.
258 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:03:22am |
re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
There was a time when the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony and the civil status of marriage were identical. But not in a modern, secular society.
Which is the root cause of most of BF’s gripes.
Yeah he can’t accept that we’re a secular society. That’s the basis of his and the RR’s whole gripe with our society.
259 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 8:03:24am |
The first #King #ACA argument update is expanded: http://t.co/coSCrfZ4V6— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) March 4, 2015
260 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 8:03:40am |
re: #256 Feline Fearless Leader
Should be declared a war grave and left alone.
The rules for that exist, but it didn’t save the Japanese ships in Truk lagoon from pretty grotesque semi-pro exploration.
261 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:04:55am |
Speaking of law though. I feel like I did quite well at my DOJ interview today and my interviewer thinks I’d be a great fit for the human rights subdivision. Sounds like genuinely exciting work- going after war criminals and such.
262 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 8:07:01am |
re: #244 Feline Fearless Leader
A successful coup that removed Hitler from power would pretty much be the best case scenario. Thing is, nobody at Munich really believed that Britain or France had the stomach for another war. Even if their leaders did, the people back home didn’t. If anything, Chamberlain trying to act tough might have emboldened Hitler to declare war on Czechoslovakia and dare Britain and France to stop him.
263 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 8:07:41am |
re: #261 HappyWarrior
Speaking of law though. I feel like I did quite well at my DOJ interview today and my interviewer thinks I’d be a great fit for the human rights subdivision. Sounds like genuinely exciting work- going after war criminals and such.
Hope you dressed properly.
264 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:10:54am |
re: #262 Targetpractice
A successful coup that removed Hitler from power would pretty much be the best case scenario. Thing is, nobody at Munich really believed that Britain or France had the stomach for another war. Even if their leaders did, the people back home didn’t. If anything, Chamberlain trying to act tough might have emboldened Hitler to declare war on Czechoslovakia and dare Britain and France to stop him.
There’s a lot of hindsight bias done honestly. Americans especially who put down Chamberlain and his French counterpart(forgetting his name at the moment) ignore that those two countries especially France had been decimated by the first world war. We certainly lost a good number of men in WWI but Americans who deride the French as cowards forget how big of a price the French population paid in WWI. That’s a big part of why I really resented the attacks on the French leading up to the Iraq War.
265 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 8:11:03am |
re: #72 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
I was using Firefox for a long time. Then, when FF continued to have a memory leak problem, I switched to Chrome. Then Chrome started to eat up RAM. Plus I was having problems with Chrome and LGF’s bells and whistles, so I switched to Opera. I still use FF, because the latest iteration seems not to gobble up RAM, but Opera has become my LGF browser because everything works.
Except the Pages bookmarklet. I have no idea where it goes in Opera.
Look up Pale Moon. It is a Firefox based browser where your FF addons will function, but it is cleaner and faster.
266 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:11:23am |
re: #263 Decatur Deb
Hope you dressed properly.
Ha I didn’t know it was going to be human rights until he brought it up. Knew it was criminal division and that was it.
267 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 8:11:54am |
re: #249 HappyWarrior
Fischer and those like him really need to get the fuck over it. This whole idea about “God” deeming gay marriage unnatural. Well assholes, you and your ideological ancestors argued that the Bible forbade interracial marriage. And furthermore what the Bible says has no bearing on secular law. I know it chaps your ass Bryan but we don’t live in a society like Saudi Arabia where the church and state are joined at the hip.
And that fact that it is not joined at the hip (with them in charge - or at least with massive influence) is the main thing they think is wrong with America.
//
268 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 8:12:13am |
Kagan’s hypothetical shows the BS reading by the right wingers. Context matters:
Imagine I tell law clerk A to write a memo, and law clerk B to edit law clerk A’s memo, and then I tell law clerk C to write such memo if law clerk A is too busy. And imagine that happens - law clerk A is too busy, so law clerk C writes it. Should law clerk B edit it? The answer seemed obvious: of course, and Justice Kagan all but told petitioner’s counsel (and her clerks) that they would be fired if they didn’t do their job under those circumstances. In response, petitioner’s counsel said that the context mattered, and it would depend on whether the Justice was indifferent between law clerk A and law clerk C writing the memo in the first instance. But that seemed to play into Justice Kagan’s hand, who made clear that this was her point - that in understanding this text, the context obviously mattered.
The right wingers clearly want to see ACA destroyed, and will more than willingly use a BS argument to do so. Kagan exposed it as such.
269 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:14:20am |
re: #268 lawhawk
Kagan’s hypothetical shows the BS reading by the right wingers. Context matters:
The right wingers clearly want to see ACA destroyed, and will more than willingly use a BS argument to do so. Kagan exposed it as such.
Obama did really well with her and Sotomayor. I hope he can get one more appointment before he leaves office though it will be tough with the GOP controlling the Senate but then again we haven’t seen a senate rejection of a nominee since Bork and Bork was much more extreme than anyone Obama would pick though the right would certainly make out his pick no matter how moderate out to be Earl Warren on steroids.
270 | #FergusonFireside Mar 4, 2015 8:14:30am |
re: #261 HappyWarrior
Speaking of law though. I feel like I did quite well at my DOJ interview today and my interviewer thinks I’d be a great fit for the human rights subdivision. Sounds like genuinely exciting work- going after war criminals and such.
That would be a great job. Good thoughts & good luck.
271 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 8:15:01am |
re: #260 Decatur Deb
The rules for that exist, but it didn’t save the Japanese ships in Truk lagoon from pretty grotesque semi-pro exploration.
Mix of a few things there:
1. IIRC, most of the sunk ships at Truk are merchant ships and not warships. That appears to somehow make a difference.
2. Have any of those sites been declared war graves?
3. One you have the declaration you need local law enforcement backing it up. And probably needing some help ($?) to do so.
And I half-suspect the local authorities may not want to ban the diving since it is probably a tourist attraction and a source of income.
272 | Varek Raith Mar 4, 2015 8:15:05am |
re: #261 HappyWarrior
Speaking of law though. I feel like I did quite well at my DOJ interview today and my interviewer thinks I’d be a great fit for the human rights subdivision. Sounds like genuinely exciting work- going after war criminals and such.
You’re a lawyer???
273 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:15:38am |
re: #272 Varek Raith
You’re a lawyer???
Nope paralegal in training. the position is admin related so I’d be assisting lawyers though with the usual.
274 | GlutenFreeJesus Mar 4, 2015 8:18:32am |
re: #243 The Mother Of All Pies
Don’t remind him that the Bible was written by… Men!
275 | Varek Raith Mar 4, 2015 8:20:14am |
re: #273 HappyWarrior
Nope paralegal in training. the position is admin related so I’d be assisting lawyers though with the usual.
Ok.
Because if you were…
PEWPEWPEW!
/
276 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 8:20:25am |
Gov. Christie is lucky I wasn’t in town to give him a piece of my mind at today’s open house in Fair Lawn.
Between his BS on pensions, and now this, he’s showing anything but fiscal responsibility. Stealing from Peter to pay Paul isn’t fiscal responsibility. That’s how we got into this mess in the first place.
That's all part of a major cut to NJ DOT budget, at time when state needs more infrastructure funding to keep roads/bridges/rail safe!— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 4, 2015
On the pension mess, how can anyone trust Christie when after signing pension reform, the first thing he did was go back on that signature deal and chopped the pension fund payment in half because he didn’t want to raise taxes. Screw obligations.
And it’s no wonder the state’s credit rating (which increases costs to borrow as the rating sinks) has been cut nonstop since he took office.
277 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:20:47am |
re: #274 GlutenFreeJesus
Don’t remind him that the Bible was written by… Men!
Nuh uh, Fischer’s Bible was autographed by God at a book signing he went to at a Boise Barnes and Noble.On second thought, it was Phil Robertson not God.
278 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 8:20:55am |
re: #264 HappyWarrior
There’s a lot of hindsight bias done honestly. Americans especially who put down Chamberlain and his French counterpart(forgetting his name at the moment) ignore that those two countries especially France had been decimated by the first world war. We certainly lost a good number of men in WWI but Americans who deride the French as cowards forget how big of a price the French population paid in WWI. That’s a big part of why I really resented the attacks on the French leading up to the Iraq War.
It’s unclear how things could (or would) have played out. An earlier war might have dragged out and led to a lot more internal dissent in both France and England. Germany might have removed Hitler, or buckled down and fought with fewer resources.* And then you have Russia in the mix as well. No one may have wanted a war at that point, but then you fight with what you have.
I do think the US would have stayed out of it as far as possible. But, we also did a lot of trade with Europe and the same thing happens as happened in WW1. The UK blockades Germany, Germany starts unrestricted submarine warfare in the North Sea and western approaches to England. Constant friction point.
And with the mechanical technology a few years younger we might also end up using poison gas again since blitzkrieg might not be possible yet.
Plus, if Hitler does get removed by a coup - who/what replaces him?
279 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 8:21:01am |
re: #274 GlutenFreeJesus
Don’t remind him that the Bible was written by… Men!
Book of Esther was written by a woman.
280 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:21:16am |
re: #275 Varek Raith
Ok.
Because if you were…
PEWPEWPEW!
/
Hahaha no offense taken. You don’t want a lawyer that gets nervous in front of large groups.
281 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 8:21:52am |
ASSHOLE==>
Unaffiliated Jew Jon Liebowitz Stewart exploits his ethnic Jewishness to bash Israel and Jewish women. Classy. http://t.co/GHSFhhqMKi— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) March 4, 2015
282 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:23:04am |
re: #278 Feline Fearless Leader
It’s unclear how things could (or would) have played out. An earlier war might have dragged out and led to a lot more internal dissent in both France and England. Germany might have removed Hitler, or buckled down and fought with fewer resources.* And then you have Russia in the mix as well. No one may have wanted a war at that point, but then you fight with what you have.
I do think the US would have stayed out of it as far as possible. But, we also did a lot of trade with Europe and the same thing happens as happened in WW1. The UK blockades Germany, Germany starts unrestricted submarine warfare in the North Sea and western approaches to England. Constant friction point.
And with the mechanical technology a few years younger we might also end up using poison gas again since blitzkrieg might not be possible yet.
Plus, if Hitler does get removed by a coup - who/what replaces him?
Yeah there’s a lot of what ifs. Great point about what would have happened if Hitler got removed. And while I don’t want to put down the German internal opposition to Hitler within the armed forces, these guys weren’t totally great guys. Many of them still had their eyes on restoring the German empire to what it had been in WWI and frankly some of their mistrust of Hitler was due to their classism.
283 | Varek Raith Mar 4, 2015 8:23:51am |
re: #282 HappyWarrior
Yeah there’s a lot of what ifs. Great point about what would have happened if Hitler got removed. And while I don’t want to put down the German internal opposition to Hitler within the armed forces, these guys weren’t totally great guys. Many of them still had their eyes on restoring the German empire to what it had been in WWI and frankly some of their mistrust of Hitler was due to their classism.
Play Red Alert.
/
284 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 8:25:36am |
2d argument update is up: http://t.co/kFWxfrDECg— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) March 4, 2015
Essentially no chance #SCOTUS will dump #King case and not decide it because of doubts about the plaintiffs’ standing.— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) March 4, 2015
285 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 8:26:33am |
SELF-AWARENESS, HE HAS NONE==>
Jon Stewart should know about giving long blowjobs. He's been doing it to the Obama administration for six years now. http://t.co/GHSFhhqMKi— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) March 4, 2015
286 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 8:27:16am |
re: #147 Dr. Matt
Carson realizes his stock will rise by making more and more offensive and inflammatory comments.
He’s auditioning for a full time gig with the best paying outfit in the wingnut welfare state.
287 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 8:27:38am |
re: #278 Feline Fearless Leader
Considering most of the top generals at that time, including those considering a coup in ‘38, were from the aristocracy, I imagine that they would have chosen to put a new Kaiser on the throne and took another swing at a constitutional monarchy. Or perhaps put Goering in charge, as he was “moderate” by comparison to Hitler.
But again, that assumes that a coup happened. It could just as well have been a case that Hitler marched into Prague and nobody stopped him. The “ethnic Germans” argument was still taken seriously in Britain and France, making an argument for war to satisfy treaty conditions that much harder. And any attempt by the Soviets to intervene would have required passing through Poland, which was pretty much not gonna happen.
288 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 8:27:53am |
Got another valentine==>
@viciousbabushka @milesjreed what the fuck are you smoking? Seriously? That comment is too damn ignorant to give an opinion on.— I'm a MF & then some (@grindstaffd3570) March 4, 2015
289 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:28:33am |
re: #285 The Mother Of All Pies
SELF-AWARENESS, HE HAS NONE==>
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Says the man who has been on his knees for fundies for his entire career as a pundit.
290 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 8:28:41am |
re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So now we’re gambling on Roberts’ silence and Kennedy’s discomfort.
Oh boy.
291 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:30:07am |
I really hope a Democrat gets to choose the next Chief Justice. upholding ACA aside, Roberts has been awful.
293 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 8:30:48am |
re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader
Mix of a few things there:
1. IIRC, most of the sunk ships at Truk are merchant ships and not warships. That appears to somehow make a difference.
2. Have any of those sites been declared war graves?
3. One you have the declaration you need local law enforcement backing it up. And probably needing some help ($?) to do so.And I half-suspect the local authorities may not want to ban the diving since it is probably a tourist attraction and a source of income.
Definitely for warships, but can’t imagine most transports there didn’t have AA at least. This is literally a sea-lawyer issue.
There is also the concept that warships always remain the property of the combatant, which has complicated deep-past treasure diving.
Your #3 is the driver, most likely.
(Side note: One of my anthro/archaeology professors was a USN LCDR in WWII. He wound up the administrator for one of the Trust archipelagos, Truk, IIRC.)
294 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 8:31:15am |
re: #154 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Yeah, I know a couple of surgeons, too. They’re a cocky bunch. Within their specialty, that’s a good thing. Once outside their specialty, they’re just insufferable.
But Carson is a special case. He’s a pulpit-thumping brain surgeon; he’s extra cocky (and insufferable) because he has God on his side.
He’s not the kind of man who should lead a democratic, pluralistic country.
Expertise in one field does not carry over into other fields. But experts often think so. The narrower their field of knowledge the more likely they are to think so. - Robert A. Heinlein
295 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 8:33:05am |
The right wing lawyer’s spouting off more BS:
Oh, wow. Carvin says “not a scintilla” of evidence state insurance markets would implode w/o subsidies http://t.co/8jYn8O2lq5— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) March 4, 2015
That flies in the face of studies that shows that without subsidies, there would be a death spiral.
296 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 8:36:29am |
re: #287 Targetpractice
Considering most of the top generals at that time, including those considering a coup in ‘38, were from the aristocracy, I imagine that they would have chosen to put a new Kaiser on the throne and took another swing at a constitutional monarchy. Or perhaps put Goering in charge, as he was “moderate” by comparison to Hitler.
But again, that assumes that a coup happened. It could just as well have been a case that Hitler marched into Prague and nobody stopped him. The “ethnic Germans” argument was still taken seriously in Britain and France, making an argument for war to satisfy treaty conditions that much harder. And any attempt by the Soviets to intervene would have required passing through Poland, which was pretty much not gonna happen.
And if the Soviets had tried anything, I would wager that the United Kingdom and France would have been more hostile to the Soviets than Hitler.
297 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 8:36:31am |
re: #287 Targetpractice
Considering most of the top generals at that time, including those considering a coup in ‘38, were from the aristocracy, I imagine that they would have chosen to put a new Kaiser on the throne and took another swing at a constitutional monarchy. Or perhaps put Goering in charge, as he was “moderate” by comparison to Hitler.
But again, that assumes that a coup happened. It could just as well have been a case that Hitler marched into Prague and nobody stopped him. The “ethnic Germans” argument was still taken seriously in Britain and France, making an argument for war to satisfy treaty conditions that much harder. And any attempt by the Soviets to intervene would have required passing through Poland, which was pretty much not gonna happen.
It didn’t happen, so it’s hard to tell.
From my reading it boils down to the political leadership in England being more complex than the very simplistic “Chamberlain coward, Churchill hero (or blowhard)”. They had to balance economic issues, the discovered necessity to start rearming post-1934, the ongoing naval building race*, and then the eventual transition to a “war prime minister”** when it became clear that they were going to fight a war.
* - Mainly US-UK-Japan, but others involved since UK had to potentially also deal with France or Italy in the Med.
** - Of which the general consent was that Churchill was going to be a better one than Chamberlain. And once the war was one they dumped Churchill pretty quickly. (And of note, Churchill wasn’t sitting to the side and just yapping from 1938-1940. He was running the navy at the start of the war and there was not a “sitzkrieg” in the Atlantic in 1940. The naval war started on Sept 1, 1939 and did not let up.
298 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 8:38:59am |
re: #295 lawhawk
The right wing lawyer’s spouting off more BS:
That flies in the face of studies that shows that without subsidies, there would be a death spiral.
The state markets will be fine, nothing will change or happen, but its really important to gut the subsidies anyway. ////
300 | Targetpractice Mar 4, 2015 8:41:56am |
re: #297 Feline Fearless Leader
Actually it was at best a three way leadership battle. Churchill was the warhawk, convinced that Britain stood ready to go to war even in ‘38. Lord Halifax knew Britain wasn’t ready and felt the only option was to maintain the peace as long as possible. And Chamberlain was somewhere in the middle, committed to rearming Britain with an expectation that war was on the horizon. But, like his French counterparts, he didn’t expect war to happen much sooner than 1941. Oddly enough, that’s roughly when Hitler’s generals had also expected to be prepared for war.
301 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 8:43:46am |
re: #290 Targetpractice
So now we’re gambling on Roberts’ silence and Kennedy’s discomfort.
Oh boy.
yeah I don’t know how much to make of these reports. We’ll know what happens when it happens.
302 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 8:44:09am |
Oh look, the “we will take our ball and go home” defense. Probably with a large scoop of “look what you made us do!”
303 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 8:44:45am |
re: #234 Justanotherhuman
Shouldn’t these be labeled “supporters” of ACA?
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re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth
Here’s the thing about healthcare and the SCOTUS. Do insurance companies benefit and profit from the ACA? If the answer is yes, it will be upheld. I don’t think the RATS care about people getting healthcare. But they do care about corporate profits.
304 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 8:45:35am |
Not a State Farm commercial (from Yellowstone NP):
Amateur photographer Tom Carter of Dallas, Texas, recorded the entire incident and uploaded the video to YouTube. The video shows the buffalo coming straight at the Nissan Xterra.
Carter, who was in the vehicle with at the time with a friend, thinks the buffalo were being agitated by cars.
“I really thought they were just going to run right by. After he rammed us, the other two just stopped,” Carter told USA Today. “I just happened to be in the right place at the wrong time.”
Carter says the bison was fine after the collision.
305 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 8:46:02am |
re: #302 Feline Fearless Leader
Oh look, the “we will take our ball and go home” defense. Probably with a large scoop of “look what you made us do!”
Oh for fuck sake. Just let the gays marry and get over your pathetic bigotry already.
306 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 8:47:07am |
re: #300 Targetpractice
Actually it was at best a three way leadership battle. Churchill was the warhawk, convinced that Britain stood ready to go to war even in ‘38. Lord Halifax knew Britain wasn’t ready and felt the only option was to maintain the peace as long as possible. And Chamberlain was somewhere in the middle, committed to rearming Britain with an expectation that war was on the horizon. But, like his French counterparts, he didn’t expect war to happen much sooner than 1941. Oddly enough, that’s roughly when Hitler’s generals had also expected to be prepared for war.
True. Halifax was in the mix too. But he also had some connections that were pro-Hitler and thus that was an issue as well. UK-Germany has pretty much always had a cushy aristocrat-industrialist group that got along real well with each other since the 1850s or so. Two countries that heavily industrialized and their nobility was heavily related to each other.
307 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 8:47:13am |
re: #203 The Mother Of All Pies
Mine was an Apple II Serial# 1871. I splurged to get 48K of memory. I used that sucker for a decade with very few problems.
Paid the equivalent of about $4,000 2015 for it.
308 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 8:48:21am |
NOW: Rushing Water Tears Causeway Down In Logan County, Flooding Issues Continue http://t.co/gerhWqLv1o #EyewitnessWV pic.twitter.com/6wP8ajXPW9— Eyewitness News (@wchs8fox11) March 4, 2015
309 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 8:48:35am |
re: #273 HappyWarrior
Nope paralegal in training. the position is admin related so I’d be assisting lawyers though with the usual.
That’s awesome! Good luck!!
310 | Nyet Mar 4, 2015 8:48:41am |
re: #302 Feline Fearless Leader
Oh look, the “we will take our ball and go home” defense. Probably with a large scoop of “look what you made us do!”
I thought they were supposed to be pro-marriage!//
311 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 8:52:08am |
re: #302 Feline Fearless Leader
Oh look, the “we will take our ball and go home” defense. Probably with a large scoop of “look what you made us do!”
re: #310 Nyet
I thought they were supposed to be pro-marriage!//
Because it’s Mobile, it looks like FFL is right. He’s an asshole. Anywhere else, they could plead “deepset confusion”, a common malady among AL officials. Roy Moore has succeeded in muddying the waters pretty thoroughly.
315 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 8:54:46am |
re: #302 Feline Fearless Leader
Oh look, the “we will take our ball and go home” defense. Probably with a large scoop of “look what you made us do!”
How about a nice juicy headline: “Alabama Judges Advocate Living in Sin”
316 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 8:56:08am |
re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
How about a nice juicy headline: “Alabama Judges Advocate Living in Sin”
As long as no dildoes are involved. Sale of dildoes is illegal here.
317 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 9:01:51am |
re: #264 HappyWarrior
There’s a lot of hindsight bias done honestly. Americans especially who put down Chamberlain and his French counterpart(forgetting his name at the moment) ignore that those two countries especially France had been decimated by the first world war. We certainly lost a good number of men in WWI but Americans who deride the French as cowards forget how big of a price the French population paid in WWI. That’s a big part of why I really resented the attacks on the French leading up to the Iraq War.
Édouard Daladier was his name.
France would almost certainly not have gone to war in 1938. The place was as divided politically as the U.S. is now with the loony right holding a lot of power and most of the Armed Forces higher command. There was a pretty strong loony left as well. They backed Hitler, at Tovarisch Dugashvili’s orders, right up until the day Herr Shicklegruber invaded Russia.
318 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 9:03:28am |
re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
How about a nice juicy headline: “Alabama Judges Advocate Living in Sin”
Heh.
Given that legal marriage and religious marriage are separate it’s not really true. You arguably could undergo the religious ceremony and not be “in sin” without getting the legal license issued.
However, don’t most locales require the license to be on hand before they carry out the ceremony? And is that a legal, or religious, requirement?
319 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 9:04:29am |
re: #317 Romantic Heretic
Édouard Daladier was his name.
France would almost certainly not ha go to war in 1938. The place was as divided politically as the U.S. is now with the loony right holding a lot of power and most of the Armed Forces higher command. There was a pretty strong loony left as well. They backed Hitler, at Tovarisch Dugashvili’s orders, right up until the day Herr Shicklegruber invaded Russia.
Stop overloading us with historical nuances.
This is all the History we need:
Bad guy = Hitler
Person who advocates going to war and kicking Bad Guy’s Ass = Churchill
Person who opposes going to war with Bad Guy = Chamberlain
/ (after the fact)
320 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 9:04:39am |
BOOM. Hospital stocks surge after Justice Kennedy criticizes Obamacare challenge http://t.co/CsBg5QYxlp pic.twitter.com/urYAgqclU1— Joseph Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) March 4, 2015
Seeing how hospitals are the ones that are on the front lines of the health insurance mess, if the states invalidate the subsidies, the hospitals will end up seeing the brunt of uninsureds (and having to deal with higher indigent care costs). With insurance, the hospitals are in a much better financial position.
That’s why the hospital care sector is surging. They think that the decision breaks in favor of the federal exchange subsidies being upheld.
I’m not 100% sure of that outcome, but a 5-4 to uphold is not out of the question. And I can’t wait for Scalia or Thomas to pull some 200 year old quip about statutory construction to mean the opposite of what it actually says.
321 | Nyet Mar 4, 2015 9:05:39am |
re: #316 Decatur Deb
As long as no dildoes are involved. Sale of dildoes is illegal here.
Because dicks are in abundance?
322 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 9:05:59am |
re: #317 Romantic Heretic
Édouard Daladier was his name.
France would almost certainly not ha go to war in 1938. The place was as divided politically as the U.S. is now with the loony right holding a lot of power and most of the Armed Forces higher command. There was a pretty strong loony left as well. They backed Hitler, at Tovarisch Dugashvili’s orders, right up until the day Herr Shicklegruber invaded Russia.
And trying to hold up that you have treaty obligations to mobilize and initiate hostilities when there is serious domestic opposition is pretty much a hard sell for politicians anywhere. You start needing serious statesmen to pull that off.
Or you just try to weasel it with gunboat diplomacy and dropping a few bombs.
323 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 9:06:30am |
re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader
Mix of a few things there:
1. IIRC, most of the sunk ships at Truk are merchant ships and not warships. That appears to somehow make a difference.
2. Have any of those sites been declared war graves?
3. One you have the declaration you need local law enforcement backing it up. And probably needing some help ($?) to do so.And I half-suspect the local authorities may not want to ban the diving since it is probably a tourist attraction and a source of income.
I’d dive there if I could. Ironbottom Sound would be interesting as well
324 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 9:06:44am |
re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
You forgot your sarc tags. I guess that was also obvious enough to not need them though.
325 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 9:07:10am |
Why don't you should pull your lips off Bibi's ass for a second. @benshapiro
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 4, 2015
326 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 9:07:28am |
re: #321 Nyet
Because dicks are in abundance?
As a good farm state, we export many but keep the biggest.
327 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 9:09:47am |
Fun fact for Bryan. Gays serve in Israeli army. @BryanJFischer
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 4, 2015
328 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 9:11:35am |
re: #317 Romantic Heretic
Édouard Daladier was his name.
France would almost certainly not ha go to war in 1938. The place was as divided politically as the U.S. is now with the loony right holding a lot of power and most of the Armed Forces higher command. There was a pretty strong loony left as well. They backed Hitler, at Tovarisch Dugashvili’s orders, right up until the day Herr Shicklegruber invaded Russia.
Thanks. Had forgotten Daladeir’s name. But yeah there was a huge divide in interwar France.
329 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:13:02am |
Pertinent to the case being heard today…
Why Louisiana Is Facing A Health Care Disaster
330 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 9:13:49am |
re: #327 Ace-o-aces
Fun fact #2: Gays serve with distinction and honor in US military.
331 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 9:14:10am |
re: #327 Ace-o-aces
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Yep, I love how fundies like him claim that allowing gays to serve would destroy morale in our units yet the IDF seems to do quite well with gays and women both being allowed to be in combat. Bryan’s got more in common with Hamas in his views on gays than he does the average Israeli.
332 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 9:14:28am |
re: #323 Romantic Heretic
I’d dive there if I could. Ironbottom Sound would be interesting as well
That’s deeper water than Truk Lagoon though. I presume many of those wrecks are harder, if not impossible, to dive on. And as far as I know there are still a lot that the wreck site has not been positively located.
The wikipedia site, for instance, indicates that the USS Vincennes sank in 900+ meter deep water. Probably an estimated location, but that implies specialized equipment to even locate the wreck.
333 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 9:15:10am |
re: #330 lawhawk
Fun fact #2: Gays serve with distinction and honor in US military.
But they feminized the American military because every gay man is exactly like Nathan Lane in the Birdcage. But yeah Fischer just can’t get over the fact that there are plenty of gay people who are much better Americans than he’ll ever be.
334 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 9:16:09am |
re: #323 Romantic Heretic
Ah, The Slot. Yeah, lots of WWII wrecks there, along with plenty of aircraft.
335 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 9:17:18am |
re: #333 HappyWarrior
But they feminized the American military because every gay man is exactly like Nathan Lane in the Birdcage. But yeah Fischer just can’t get over the fact that there are plenty of gay people who are much better Americans than he’ll ever be.
Wingnuts love this meme, then go batshit when I suggest that it could be the same guy in both photos:
336 | The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 4, 2015 9:17:40am |
re: #333 HappyWarrior
But they feminized the American military because every gay man is exactly like Nathan Lane in the Birdcage. But yeah Fischer just can’t get over the fact that there are plenty of gay people who are much better Americans than he’ll ever be.
Hell, wasn’t it Fischer who said the Medal of Honor had been “feminized” by being awarded for saving or protecting one’s own comrades instead of slaughtering the most brown people?
337 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 9:17:58am |
I have to do a “One Question: Do you know it’s the same guy in both pictures” redo of that meme.
338 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 9:18:58am |
re: #337 The Mother Of All Pies
I have to do a “One Question: Do you know it’s the same guy in both pictures” redo of that meme.
In which states is he wearing a disguise?
339 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 9:20:54am |
re: #329 Justanotherhuman
Louisiana’s problems start with the fact that the GOP/Gov. Jindal again sees a huge deficit and refuses to raise taxes. Chopping spending is their only prescription, and it will fall hardest on hospitals, who will see state support fall.
That follows a plan a few years back by Jindal to scrap the income tax and replace it with a higher sales tax. That plan got killed because of the highly regressive way it would have shifted the tax burden on to those least able to afford it.
340 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:21:22am |
My millennial grandson just announced that he’s really an “old school” Gen Xer. I asked him if he liked disco and he regaled me with a few moves.
Such a joker.
341 | Higgs Boson's Mate Mar 4, 2015 9:22:09am |
re: #335 The Mother Of All Pies
Wingnuts love this meme, then go batshit when I suggest that it could be the same guy in both photos:
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They never do seem to get around to refusing the gay Blue state money that keeps their sorry Red state asses from going under.
342 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 9:22:54am |
re: #335 The Mother Of All Pies
Wingnuts love this meme, then go batshit when I suggest that it could be the same guy in both photos:
Yep that’s the kind of crap I mean. And their reactions are always priceless when they find out about there being gasp liberals in the US armed forces. They really do think they have a monopoly on loving this country and I’m sick of it. It sucked in the Bush years and it sucks even more now in the Obama years.
343 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 9:23:27am |
re: #335 The Mother Of All Pies
Wingnuts love this meme, then go batshit when I suggest that it could be the same guy in both photos:
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Real heroes don’t smoke filters.
345 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:26:05am |
re: #339 lawhawk
IIRC, a lot of people were dumped from Medicaid, also. He’s such a disaster.
346 | Higgs Boson's Mate Mar 4, 2015 9:27:10am |
re: #343 Decatur Deb
Real heroes don’t smoke filters.
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Our C-rats included a three pack of cigs. They were always filter tips. That’s why we fucking lost.
347 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 9:27:39am |
re: #336 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Hell, wasn’t it Fischer who said the Medal of Honor had been “feminized” by being awarded for saving or protecting one’s own comrades instead of slaughtering the most brown people?
Yeah. Had lunch with this guy—you can see the femininity oozing out of him because he won his MoH in an unarmed Dustoff.
348 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 9:30:02am |
re: #336 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Hell, wasn’t it Fischer who said the Medal of Honor had been “feminized” by being awarded for saving or protecting one’s own comrades instead of slaughtering the most brown people?
Yeah I think for many of us that was our introduction to him. Really pathetic for a man who has never served a day in uniform to say that about a CMOH winner and that’s not even considering the sexism behind the words.
349 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:30:29am |
ICC Shooting Suspect Connected to Three Additional Shootings in Maryland
350 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 9:34:31am |
Some freaking asshole has sent me 12 thousand spam emails in the last two days. My Outlook is having a spaz. Grrrrr!
351 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:34:49am |
Search warrants show detectives suspect $4.8 million gold heist from truck in Wilson County, NC, was inside job - @ABC11_WTVD
read more on abc11.com
Heh. I should have been a detective…
352 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 9:36:55am |
re: #348 HappyWarrior
Yeah I think for many of us that was our introduction to him. Really pathetic for a man who has never served a day in uniform to say that about a CMOH winner and that’s not even considering the sexism behind the words.
He just opens his mouth and the Word of God issues forth…
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353 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 9:39:06am |
re: #347 Decatur Deb
Yeah. Had lunch with this guy—you can see the femininity oozing out of him because he won his MoH in an unarmed Dustoff.
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And he wasn’t even rescuing Americans. That would make BF even more upset.
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354 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 9:39:43am |
re: #336 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Hell, wasn’t it Fischer who said the Medal of Honor had been “feminized” by being awarded for saving or protecting one’s own comrades instead of slaughtering the most brown people?
Don’t tell him about Desmond Doss (World War II), Thomas W. Bennett (Vietnam War), and Joseph G. LaPointe, Jr. (Vietnam War), all three conscientious objectors who served as medics and were awarded the Medal of Honor (Bennett and LaPointe posthumously).
355 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 9:39:54am |
#BREAKING: Justice Department won't charge Darren Wilson in Ferguson shooting — http://t.co/7KFvgcLCsc #11Alive— 11Alive News (@11AliveNews) March 4, 2015
You knew it was coming, and it doesn’t make the pain any less.
356 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 9:40:12am |
re: #351 Justanotherhuman
Search warrants show detectives suspect $4.8 million gold heist from truck in Wilson County, NC, was inside job - @ABC11_WTVD
read more on abc11.com
People across the land: No shit, Sherlock.
357 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 9:40:12am |
re: #335 The Mother Of All Pies
Wingnuts love this meme, then go batshit when I suggest that it could be the same guy in both photos:
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Actually, the guy on the left had a lot of problems when he returned from active duty due to PTSD. Wingnuts who spread this meme gave approximately zero fucks about him then.
and BTW, a quote from the article:
“I don’t care much for the news,” he says, “but I hope like hell Hillary wins. I just think she’s a baaad bitch. She’s great.”
358 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:43:24am |
Northern Va. teen thought to have helped man join Islamic State
“A 17-year-old Northern Virginia high school student who federal authorities believe successfully helped a man make his way to Syria to fight with the Islamic State has been taken into custody, according to the boy’s neighbors and an official familiar with the case.” More
The article goes downhill from there…
359 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 9:44:40am |
No seriously, I enjoyed the Ben Carson campaign while it lasted.
— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) March 4, 2015
Ben Carson is now the New York Mets of politics.
360 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 9:45:08am |
re: #353 Feline Fearless Leader
And he wasn’t even rescuing Americans. That would make BF even more upset.
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He was the greatest Army aviator ever. The main street on Rucker was named for him while he was still alive, but there was a guy who had an even better day—he pulled more guys out the weeds, and used up three unarmed helicopters doing it. His picture and citation hung with a bunch of others in my office.
361 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:46:31am |
re: #355 lawhawk
But the Black Darren Wilson has been fired, and is being charged with stealing money from a cop organization.
It’s perfectly fine for a white cop to kill a Black “suspect”, however.
363 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 9:48:12am |
Excellent piece from Bob Cesca: We Finally Know the Not-So-Harrowing Regulation Hillary Clinton Allegedly Violated
364 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 9:49:04am |
Fox News. Where lies and smears are fact and not spin:
Fox News Analyst: 'Obama Would Not Shed A Tear' If Israel Was Destroyed @TPM http://t.co/qxrHaJkR7N— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) March 4, 2015
365 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 9:49:57am |
re: #354 Timothy Watson
Don’t tell him about Desmond Doss (World War II), Thomas W. Bennett (Vietnam War), and Joseph G. LaPointe, Jr. (Vietnam War), all three conscientious objectors who served as medics and were awarded the Medal of Honor (Bennett and LaPointe posthumously).
In one of my books, A History of Warfare, it mentions that the commander of 3rd Commando was in awe of the courage of his stretcher bearers, all of whom were conscientious objectors.
366 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:51:26am |
re: #363 Dr. Matt
Of course, the RW won’t pay any attention to this article—they have their chum in the water and it’s full speed ahead.
367 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 9:51:42am |
re: #364 lawhawk
Fox News. Where lies and smears are fact and not spin:
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Yeah that’s why the administration has defended Israel numerous times. Really fuck Fox for doing this when their chairman worked for the most Anti-Semitic president in modern times but yeah it’s Obama who hates Jews and Israel, rigggggght. I’m referring to Ailes Nixon connections by the way.
368 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:53:49am |
Fuck you, Ed. Stay in Russia.
Edward Snowden says in Q&A with university students that he would love to return to the United States but adds that no fair trial is being offered right now - @Reuters
end of alert
369 | TedStriker Mar 4, 2015 9:54:31am |
re: #347 Decatur Deb
Yeah. Had lunch with this guy—you can see the femininity oozing out of him because he won his MoH in an unarmed Dustoff.
42 years on active military flying duty in three wars…that’s pretty hardcore.
370 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 9:54:47am |
re: #359 Ace-o-aces
Ben Carson is now the New York Mets of politics.
In fairness, I don’t think his recent comments are much more ridiculous than any of his previous ones.
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371 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 9:55:58am |
372 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 9:56:10am |
And fuck you, too, John Cook.
So the fun thing will be to see whether State attempts to redact any of those 55k pgs of new emails b/c they’re classified
— John Cook (@johnjcook) March 4, 2015
373 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 9:56:16am |
re: #370 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
In fairness, I don’t think his recent comments are much more ridiculous than any of his previous ones.
/
I missed it. What did Doctor shit for brains say now? He really shows how unintelligent and unaware of both history and politics when he talks. He really should just stick to what he’s actually good at.
374 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 9:57:29am |
re: #373 HappyWarrior
The bit about how gays are choice because gay sex in prison.
375 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 9:58:37am |
re: #374 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
The bit about how gays are choice because gay sex in prison.
Yeah just seeing that. Man what a fucking idiot this guy is. Of course, this is the same guy who feels we’re living in Nazi Germany 2.0 but yet wants to run for president. It really is no wonder why conservatives like him so much. He’s as stupid as they are when it comes to basic reality.
376 | #FergusonFireside Mar 4, 2015 9:59:43am |
FULL DOJ REPORTS Into Michael Brown shooting: http://t.co/gdOozaANbV Into Ferguson PD http://t.co/TG49tt2ijJ
— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) March 4, 2015
377 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 10:00:51am |
re: #369 TedStriker
42 years on active military flying duty in three wars…that’s pretty hardcore.
He started out flying B-29s, and then later opted to fly helicopters and took a reduction in rank to change services so he could fly in Vietnam. That’s seriously hardcore dedication.
378 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 10:01:07am |
.@netanyahu speech to Congress may help him get re-elected, but it made Israel less safe: http://t.co/Wv1UCBcFKc pic.twitter.com/FzPBsw2M5s
— Reuters Opinion (@ReutersOpinion) March 4, 2015
379 | Nyet Mar 4, 2015 10:04:00am |
re: #232 The Mother Of All Pies
What would happen if Ben Carson & Bryan Fischer would be locked in a cell together?
A little bit of Leviticus, a little bit of Deuteronomy…
380 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:06:59am |
re: #142 The Mother Of All Pies
I see this morning #UniteBlue is retweeting the batshit Neturei Karta, the Jewish Westboro cult:
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Two #UniteBlue liberals who retweeted the Neturei Karta meme said they would remove it after I told them MK is the Jewish version of Westboro.
381 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 10:07:43am |
re: #379 Nyet
No doubt there’d be someone spouting off Ezekiel 25:17 to them.
Though I’d hope it would be a Bear Jew doing the speech.
382 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 10:08:49am |
383 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:09:22am |
“Bibi-sitter” is funny though. I’ll bet NK didn’t make that up, they are barely literate. I don’t know who makes their posters for them, but they look just like the old ANSWER and International World Workers posters.
384 | No Country For Old Haters Mar 4, 2015 10:10:08am |
re: #129 The Mother Of All Pies
They believe that:
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.@FuturePotus19 The deranged Republicans sure didn't believe that when Bush II was in office. They're extremely dishonest people.— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) March 4, 2015
386 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 10:11:08am |
re: #382 Kragar
Ben Carson floors CNN host: Homosexuality is a sham because prison makes you ‘come out gay’
If it was true - then why is the GOP so gung-ho about throwing more and more people in prison? (Beyond the profitability of privatizing it that is.)
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387 | klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 4, 2015 10:11:56am |
I think I am really fed up with a lot of the world today. Between the ACA stuff and the derp derp in response to Bibi’s speech (“guys why won’t they tell us what’s in the deal it clearly must be bad”), it’s just…
Some days you have to check out in order to stay sane.
388 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 10:12:35am |
Speaking of Republicans being extremely dishonest (and sneaky bastards):
Georgia ‘License To Discriminate’ Bill Forced Through Committee During Bathroom Break
389 | makeitstop Mar 4, 2015 10:13:23am |
re: #372 Justanotherhuman
And fuck you, too, John Cook.
So the fun thing will be to see whether State attempts to redact any of those 55k pgs of new emails b/c they’re classified
Like Jeb Bush had to redact his emails because they gave out names, addresses and SocSec numbers of his correspondents?
390 | blueraven Mar 4, 2015 10:14:04am |
re: #320 lawhawk
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Seeing how hospitals are the ones that are on the front lines of the health insurance mess, if the states invalidate the subsidies, the hospitals will end up seeing the brunt of uninsureds (and having to deal with higher indigent care costs). With insurance, the hospitals are in a much better financial position.
That’s why the hospital care sector is surging. They think that the decision breaks in favor of the federal exchange subsidies being upheld.
I’m not 100% sure of that outcome, but a 5-4 to uphold is not out of the question. And I can’t wait for Scalia or Thomas to pull some 200 year old quip about statutory construction to mean the opposite of what it actually says.
J. Kennedy’s questions were mixed. Overall, the Administration should feel more optimistic than challengers, but the ruling is uncertain.
— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) March 4, 2015
Better than the other way around, I guess.
391 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:14:56am |
re: #387 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I think I am really fed up with a lot of the world today. Between the ACA stuff and the derp derp in response to Bibi’s speech (“guys why won’t they tell us what’s in the deal it clearly must be bad”), it’s just…
Some days you have to check out in order to stay sane.
392 | klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 4, 2015 10:16:02am |
393 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 10:16:31am |
A rundown of racist emails sent by current #Ferguson officials. Read the full report here: http://t.co/BbkjYN0lcb pic.twitter.com/iJqdk2cbqM— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) March 4, 2015
394 | Dr. Matt Mar 4, 2015 10:19:12am |
re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth
But, but, but….what about Hillary’s emails?!?!?! ////
395 | Justanotherhuman Mar 4, 2015 10:20:20am |
re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth
So the rot starts at the head…
396 | makeitstop Mar 4, 2015 10:22:35am |
re: #395 Justanotherhuman
So the rot starts at the head…
That was pretty obvious from the jump. Officials’ handling of the entire case showed that all they were interested in was ‘serving and protecting’ a cop who committed murder.
397 | TedStriker Mar 4, 2015 10:23:51am |
re: #396 makeitstop
That was pretty obvious from the jump. Officials’ handling of the entire case showed that all they were interested in was ‘serving and protecting’ a cop who committed murder.
Meanwhile, Wilson skates…again.
I really hope that karma drops a loaded dump truck on his ass.
398 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:25:04am |
WTFITS==>
Sounds like there were more racist emails exchanged by Amy Pascal and Scott Rudin than by the entire Ferguson Police Department— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) March 4, 2015
399 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 10:25:19am |
re: #397 TedStriker
Meanwhile, Wilson skates…again.
I really hope that karma drops a loaded dump truck on his ass.
He’ll be on FOX News soon as a talking head expert on community and race relations.
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400 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 10:25:22am |
Dog's best friend. A Doxie rescues his big friend. http://t.co/nbfVgXRylU— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) March 4, 2015
401 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 4, 2015 10:28:02am |
re: #388 Justanotherhuman
After several hours of deliberations at Monday’s committee meeting, however, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports that Fort asked McKoon if he could pause work for a moment to use the bathroom. McKoon obliged, but while the Democrat hurried to the lavatory, the rest of the committee — which consisted entirely of Republicans once Fort left the room — quickly pulled the “religious liberty” bill off the table and began voting. A staffer alerted other Democrats who rushed to the scene, but the committee had already passed the bill by the time lawmakers arrived.
Imagine if you will the wingnut shrieking that would commence were the parties switched in this scenario.
402 | Nyet Mar 4, 2015 10:28:54am |
Having read the summary of the Brown report (the first few pages of the report), it seems that it comes down to the reliability of witness testimonies or lack thereof again. It seems that quite a few witnesses we thought reliable were dismissed by DOJ (because of alleged contradictions or because they recanted their testimonies). It also seems from the summary that quite a lot of what Wilson said seems to be confirmed by forensic evidence, (e.g. about the struggle in the car). Still, the key sentence is that DOJ couldn’t disprove his “stated subjective belief that he feared for his safety”. So we’re back to subjectivity again.
Gonna skim through the whole thing.
403 | klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 4, 2015 10:29:24am |
re: #401 Eclectic Cyborg
Imagine if you will the wingnut shrieking that would commence were the parties switched in this scenario.
I’m sure Dark would tell us this is completely acceptable, just playing the politics game.
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404 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 10:29:50am |
Most people manage to go their entire careers without sending ANY racist emails. @jpodhoretz
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) March 4, 2015
405 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 10:31:32am |
re: #402 Nyet
Having read the summary of the Brown report (the first few pages of the report), it seems that it comes down to the reliability of witness testimonies or lack thereof again. It seems that quite a few witnesses we thought reliable were dismissed by DOJ (because of alleged contradictions or because they recanted their testimonies). It also seems from the summary that quite a lot of what Wilson said seems to be confirmed by forensic evidence, (e.g. about the struggle in the car). Still, the key sentence is that DOJ couldn’t disprove his “stated subjective belief that he feared for his safety”. So we’re back to subjectivity again.
It also states that he might very well have caused the whole situation due to his initial actions, but that this does not fall under DOJ jurisdiction.
406 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 10:31:49am |
407 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 10:31:54am |
“#Ferguson's law enforcement practices are shaped by the City's focus on revenue rather than by public safety needs.” http://t.co/TwKcLedMGG— Matthew Harwood (@mharwood31) March 4, 2015
408 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:32:40am |
409 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 4, 2015 10:32:53am |
re: #407 Kragar
Sadly, I think this is true in plenty more regions besides Ferguson.
411 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 10:33:32am |
DOJ: Ferguson police sicced a dog on a person who had already been searched and then said they thought he was armed. pic.twitter.com/30OnaXlnUK— Adam Serwer (@AdamSerwer) March 4, 2015
413 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:34:06am |
re: #406 WhatEVs
Who are Amy Pascal and Scott Rudin and why do I care about them?
Movie execs whose emails were hacked in the Sony exploit. (I had to Google that)
414 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:34:21am |
re: #411 Kragar
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As I said during the protests, Bull Connor would be proud of these prick pretzels.
415 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 10:34:37am |
DOJ: Ferguson police appear to use dogs to “inflict punishment” not because they have to. pic.twitter.com/y0znDGm66u— Adam Serwer (@AdamSerwer) March 4, 2015
416 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 10:35:46am |
re: #406 WhatEVs
Who are Amy Pascal and Scott Rudin and why do I care about them?
They worked for Sony. Had emails revealed in the hack. Yes, J-Pod is comparing entertainment executives to Police officers.
417 | darthstar Mar 4, 2015 10:36:23am |
Marilyn Manson does a photo shoot with his dad who tries, and succeeds, in embarrassing him.
418 | Kragar Mar 4, 2015 10:37:03am |
The unanswered question hanging over the Ferguson report: What would we find if we looked as closely at other departments?— Yoni Appelbaum (@YAppelbaum) March 4, 2015
420 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:37:39am |
422 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 10:39:04am |
re: #412 lawhawk
re: #413 The Mother Of All Pies
I Googled them too (thanks, though!!), but I still don’t know why I should give a shit what some Hollywood people have to say. Ok, there are racists in Hwood? I would not have known that. //
And for Podhoretz to tweet that…I still have to ask…So? Is he going for the “Hollywood is all liberals and liberals are the real racists” angle or what?
I find wingnuts confounding. They and their thought processes give me whiplash. What they are for one day, they are against the next.
424 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:39:44am |
I never have had any use for his music but I like Marilyn Manson the dude.
426 | Higgs Boson's Mate Mar 4, 2015 10:40:22am |
re: #398 The Mother Of All Pies
Maybe, but Amy Pascal and Scott Rudin don’t shoot Black people out of hand.
427 | Bubblehead II Mar 4, 2015 10:40:49am |
Morning Lizards. How about a sanity break?
428 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 10:41:01am |
re: #423 darthstar
That’s a good dad.
That’s an awesome dad! Reminds me of my own dad who had a twisted, wicked sense of humor.
429 | #FergusonFireside Mar 4, 2015 10:41:05am |
430 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 10:41:32am |
Oh, lookie what’s going to hit Inhofe’s state:
Today's Weather: Winter storm will bring variety of hazards to parts of southern, eastern US: http://t.co/Encl3tHoEg pic.twitter.com/3x7Hah3xLL— NWS (@NWS) March 4, 2015
431 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:41:37am |
re: #422 WhatEVs
I Googled them too (thanks, though!!), but I still don’t know why I should give a shit what some Hollywood people have to say. Ok, there are racists in Hwood? I would not have known that. //
And for Podhoretz to tweet that…I still have to ask…So? Is he going for the “Hollywood is all liberals and liberals are the real racists” angle or what?
I find wingnuts confounding. They and their thought processes give me whiplash. What they are for one day, they are against the next.
Divert, an old wingnut trick but yeah I am not seeing his point here. Yeah there’s racism in Hollywood. But the issue here in regards to the DOJ report on Ferguson PD is that culture of racism has resulted in violence against citizenry. So Podhoertz can go take his magical balance fairy and go away.
432 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:42:17am |
re: #430 Backwoods_Sleuth
Oh, lookie what’s going to hit Inhofe’s state:
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Yeah I heard. Can’t escape it.
434 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:43:29am |
re: #422 WhatEVs
I Googled them too (thanks, though!!), but I still don’t know why I should give a shit what some Hollywood people have to say. Ok, there are racists in Hwood? I would not have known that. //
And for Podhoretz to tweet that…I still have to ask…So? Is he going for the “Hollywood is all liberals and liberals are the real racists” angle or what?
I find wingnuts confounding. They and their thought processes give me whiplash. What they are for one day, they are against the next.
Wingnuts like to invoke the Magical Balance Fairy as a protection against any form of criticism whatsoever.
KOCH? SOROS!!!!
GOHMERT? SHEILA JACKSON LEE!!!1!!!
WALTONS? KENNEDYS!!!!11!!!
435 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 10:44:39am |
re: #347 Decatur Deb
Yeah. Had lunch with this guy—you can see the femininity oozing out of him because he won his MoH in an unarmed Dustoff.
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Yeah but has this guy fought bravely against gays, womens, and other marginal and relatively powerless minorities from Twitter and inside a radio booth before?
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436 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 10:45:20am |
437 | gwangung Mar 4, 2015 10:46:09am |
re: #422 WhatEVs
I Googled them too (thanks, though!!), but I still don’t know why I should give a shit what some Hollywood people have to say. Ok, there are racists in Hwood? I would not have known that. //
And for Podhoretz to tweet that…I still have to ask…So? Is he going for the “Hollywood is all liberals and liberals are the real racists” angle or what?
I find wingnuts confounding. They and their thought processes give me whiplash. What they are for one day, they are against the next.
Who makes movies? Who wields life and death power on the streets?
438 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 10:46:25am |
439 | b_sharp Mar 4, 2015 10:48:10am |
Even at 12:30 the windchill here is -40. I heard a knock at the door a little while ago and when I answered it, a number of icicles tried to burst through the doorway and into the hall. They claimed it was too cold outside for them.
440 | Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Mar 4, 2015 10:48:53am |
re: #416 Ace-o-aces
They worked for Sony. Had emails revealed in the hack. Yes, J-Pod is comparing entertainment executives to Police officers.
Entertainment executives who have no power over us, particularly the power to execute, relative to police, who do wield such power. Other than that rather minor distinction, they’re completely the same, with equal moral authority and public responsibilities. ///////
Gosh does someone actually PAY j-pod for this stuff?
441 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:49:42am |
Aren’t producers pretty much all over the place politically? I know the old studio heads like the Warner Bros were pretty right wing and famously anti-union? So I’m not sure if Podhoertz MBF even works here since he could be pointing out racism by fellow wingnuts.
442 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:50:57am |
Stay in Russia, punk.
Snowden says U.S. not offering fair trial if he returns http://t.co/LkqFknk1cq— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) March 4, 2015
443 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 10:52:10am |
re: #409 Eclectic Cyborg
I’d say that it’s widespread.
Ferguson is hardly an outlier in Missouri, so I’d say that there’s many law enforcement agencies nationally that share in these same awful practices. They either haven’t been caught with their pants down, or they haven’t had enough media attention due to officer-involved shootings.
Though even where there are officer-involved shootings, that’s often not enough to get DOJ investigating.
Heck, the Missouri AG’s office has stats on stops, and found disproportionate stops against minorities - often in excess of what was going on in Ferguson. But no one was doing anything about it. Not the MO AG, not legislators, not the police or local leaders.
That has to change.
444 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:52:15am |
re: #442 The Mother Of All Pies
Stay in Russia, punk.
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I would love to see what he defines as as a fair trial. My bet is anything that doesn’t make him out to be a hero and the NSA out to be a latter day Gestapo.
445 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:52:46am |
HURR HURR POOR PEOPLE’S HEALTHCARE ISN’T COMIN OUTTA MY HARD EARNED MONEYS!!!!!!
Dear Ppl on #DontTakeMyCare, Nothing is ever free-someone is paying for it so in essence you're robbing the rest of us-think about it. #tcot— KillerBunnyFooFoo(TM) (@PolitiBunny) March 4, 2015
446 | jaunte Mar 4, 2015 10:53:45am |
DOJ: #Ferguson Police deployed a canine to bite a 14-year-old boy then struck him while he was down. pic.twitter.com/XJC7p1AXYk
— SPLC (@splcenter) March 4, 2015
447 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:54:37am |
re: #445 The Mother Of All Pies
HURR HURR POOR PEOPLE’S HEALTHCARE ISN’T COMIN OUTTA MY HARD EARNED MONEYS!!!!!!
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By her logic if she ever lived in student housing while attending a public university, she was robbing the rest of us but unlike her, I’m not a Randian brat who doesn’t understand how the social contract works.
448 | #FergusonFireside Mar 4, 2015 10:54:49am |
This man went to play ball and came home with several bogus charges and no job. Because of #Ferguson PD pic.twitter.com/Y7LMKBBeBh
— Bram StrokeHer (@kidnoble) March 4, 2015
449 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 10:55:41am |
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Why would I not be shocked if Wilson said some shit to Brown?
450 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 10:55:55am |
re: #445 The Mother Of All Pies
So how exactly is indigent care provided for? Oh wait, it’s funded on the backs of everyone else who have insurance and the costs billed to insurers includes a premium for covering indigent care.
Eliminate the indigent (making everyone covered under insurance) reduces the indigent costs everyone with insurance pays, plus you’re getting premiums from formerly uninsured.
These people have no clue how health insurance works.
451 | aagcobb Mar 4, 2015 10:56:03am |
re: #445 The Mother Of All Pies
HURR HURR POOR PEOPLE’S HEALTHCARE ISN’T COMIN OUTTA MY HARD EARNED MONEYS!!!!!!
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If she like most Americans, gets health insurance through a group policy with her employer, HER INSURANCE IS SUBSIDIZED AS WELL.
452 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 10:58:05am |
re: #450 lawhawk
So how exactly is indigent care provided for? Oh wait, it’s funded on the backs of everyone else who have insurance and the costs billed to insurers includes a premium for covering indigent care.
Eliminate the indigent (making everyone covered under insurance) reduces the indigent costs everyone with insurance pays, plus you’re getting premiums from formerly uninsured.
These people have no clue how health insurance works.
Just like that other stupid Randian Millennial Kochbot that I blocked last night, HURR HURR MEDICARE & MEDICAID IS SUCKING US DRY!!!! I PAY MY OWN WAY HURR HURR!!!!!!
453 | lawhawk Mar 4, 2015 10:58:51am |
All these people with the pre-printed signs outside the Supreme Court seem to ignore that the IRS is deeply involved in health benefits coverages, even before the ACA was enacted.
PHOTO: Protesters opposing Obamacare outside #SCOTUS More @NinaTotenberg http://t.co/aCF5ddPhh0 @gettyimages pic.twitter.com/ARmv8QFnWH— NPR Politics (@nprpolitics) March 4, 2015
The ACA made it a personal responsibility for persons to get insurance or else face a penalty.
But before that, employers were getting tax breaks by providing health insurance to their employees. That’s a tax treatment folks. Want to get the IRS out of the health benefits business entirely? That’s fine - separate health insurance entirely from employment benefits.
454 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 11:00:30am |
re: #453 lawhawk
All these people with the pre-printed signs outside the Supreme Court seem to ignore that the IRS is deeply involved in health benefits coverages, even before the ACA was enacted.
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The ACA made it a personal responsibility for persons to get insurance or else face a penalty.
But before that, employers were getting tax breaks by providing health insurance to their employees. That’s a tax treatment folks. Want to get the IRS out of the health benefits business entirely? That’s fine - separate health insurance entirely from employment benefits.
But they want MOAR HSA’S which the IRS has nothing to do with. Oh wait…
455 | Mike Lamb Mar 4, 2015 11:00:55am |
re: #445 The Mother Of All Pies
HURR HURR POOR PEOPLE’S HEALTHCARE ISN’T COMIN OUTTA MY HARD EARNED MONEYS!!!!!!
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Does she own a house? Then she’s robbing from a huge number of people re: the mortgage interest deduction.
Does she attend church? Then she’s supporting an organization that is robbing from the rest of us due to their tax exempt status.
Do her kids attend public school? Then she’s robbing from people who don’t have children (or whose children are no longer attending school or are too young to attend school).
Does she claim a deduction for health expenses? More robbery.
456 | WhatEVs Mar 4, 2015 11:01:00am |
re: #439 b_sharp
Even at 12:30 the windchill here is -40. I heard a knock at the door a little while ago and when I answered it, a number of icicles tried to burst through the doorway and into the hall. They claimed it was too cold outside for them.
Holy cow! Where are you again? I am in Canada (near Detroit) and it’s nowhere near that cold. It’s actually above freezing for the first time in weeks.
457 | jaunte Mar 4, 2015 11:01:17am |
re: #453 lawhawk
That photo looks like an illustration for the concept of “astroturfing”
458 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 11:01:36am |
re: #368 Justanotherhuman
Edward Snowden says in Q&A with university students that he would love to return to the United States but adds that no
fair trial is being offered right nowspecial treatment is being offered to our special snowflake -
459 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 4, 2015 11:02:26am |
re: #453 lawhawk
Can’t help but notice this group seems a lot smaller than the other “protesters”.
460 | Ace-o-aces Mar 4, 2015 11:03:22am |
re: #447 HappyWarrior
By her logic if she ever lived in student housing while attending a public university, she was robbing the rest of us but unlike her, I’m not a Randian brat who doesn’t understand how the social contract works.
Read though some of her recent posts
Government providing healthcare though ACA = ROBBERY! SLAVERY!
Government shooting unarmed black people through police = HAHA! Dead black Teens R Funny!
461 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 4, 2015 11:03:36am |
re: #456 WhatEVs
Holy cow! Where are you again? I am in Canada (near Detroit) and it’s nowhere near that cold. It’s actually above freezing for the first time in weeks.
My hometown of Ottawa just went through the coldest February in over 100 years. There were a number of nights with -40 wind chill or below.
462 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 11:03:39am |
re: #459 Eclectic Cyborg
Can’t help but notice this group seems a lot smaller than the other “protesters”.
That’s because conservative protesters mostly have jobs and couldn’t make it.// But yeah pretty small indeed. Did not have any real problems with traffic getting into D.C to interview today.
463 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 4, 2015 11:04:02am |
re: #453 lawhawk
All these people with the pre-printed signs outside the Supreme Court seem to ignore that the IRS is deeply involved in health benefits coverages, even before the ACA was enacted.
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The ACA made it a personal responsibility for persons to get insurance or else face a penalty.
But before that, employers were getting tax breaks by providing health insurance to their employees. That’s a tax treatment folks. Want to get the IRS out of the health benefits business entirely? That’s fine - separate health insurance entirely from employment benefits.
Why aren’t they hard at work at their jobs?
Or are they being paid to be there?
464 | iossarian Mar 4, 2015 11:04:05am |
re: #459 Eclectic Cyborg
Can’t help but notice this group seems a lot smaller than the other “protesters”.
With suspiciously identical signs.
465 | Eclectic Cyborg Mar 4, 2015 11:04:40am |
466 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 11:04:43am |
re: #460 Ace-o-aces
Read though some of her recent posts
Government providing healthcare though ACA = ROBBERY! SLAVERY!
Government shooting unarmed black people through police = HAHA! Dead black Teens R Funny!
She blocked me for BEING A COMMUNIST!!!1!!
467 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 11:04:52am |
re: #460 Ace-o-aces
Read though some of her recent posts
Government providing healthcare though ACA = ROBBERY! SLAVERY!
Government shooting unarmed black people through police = HAHA! Dead black Teens R Funny!
Why am I not shocked?
468 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 11:05:20am |
re: #433 Nyet
My favourite Christmas movie.
469 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 11:05:44am |
re: #466 The Mother Of All Pies
She blocked me for BEING A COMMUNIST!!!1!!
Better a communist than a Randian dimwit who doesn’t understand how modern society actually works and thinks a fairy tale written by an idolater of a serial killer is how a society should function.
470 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 11:06:34am |
re: #469 HappyWarrior
Better a communist than a Randian dimwit who doesn’t understand how modern society actually works and thinks a fairy tale written by an idolater of a serial killer is how a society should function.
These idiots think anybody who isn’t a Kochbot is a COMMIE SOROSBOT!!!1!!!!
471 | Timothy Watson Mar 4, 2015 11:06:41am |
re: #454 The Mother Of All Pies
But they want MOAR HSA’S which the IRS has nothing to do with. Oh wait…
My biggest complaint about the ACA were the changes to Flexible Spending Accounts. :/
472 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 4, 2015 11:07:08am |
re: #418 Kragar
The unanswered question hanging over the Ferguson report: What would we find if we looked as closely at other departments?
the rest of the iceberg
473 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 11:07:22am |
re: #445 The Mother Of All Pies
There’s that compulsion of mine again. I soooo want to introduce them to the world of the sick and disabled.
474 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Mar 4, 2015 11:07:41am |
re: #433 Nyet
I love me some Manson. And his covers are cool :)
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His cover of Sweet Dreams (are made of this) is what got me started listening to him. Portrait of An American family is still one of my favorite albums next to antichrist superstar.
475 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 11:08:28am |
re: #446 jaunte
So that’s what happens to bullies when they grow up.
476 | HappyWarrior Mar 4, 2015 11:08:53am |
re: #470 The Mother Of All Pies
These idiots think anybody who isn’t a Kochbot is a COMMIE SOROSBOT!!!1!!!!
Yeah. They’re the ones who are the real fringe though. As I said last night, even Otto von Bismarck saw the need for social programs and he was far from being a liberal. These people want to live in a modern society but yet want things handled like we did in feudal times.
477 | Feline Fearless Leader Mar 4, 2015 11:09:09am |
re: #453 lawhawk
All these people with the pre-printed signs outside the Supreme Court seem to ignore that the IRS is deeply involved in health benefits coverages, even before the ACA was enacted.
The ACA made it a personal responsibility for persons to get insurance or else face a penalty.
But before that, employers were getting tax breaks by providing health insurance to their employees. That’s a tax treatment folks. Want to get the IRS out of the health benefits business entirely? That’s fine - separate health insurance entirely from employment benefits.
You just have to call it “Liberty and Freedom Health Insurance” instead of “single-payer”.
// ;)
478 | The Mother Of All Pies Mar 4, 2015 11:10:29am |
re: #476 HappyWarrior
Yeah. They’re the ones who are the real fringe though. As I said last night, even Otto von Bismarck saw the need for social programs and he was far from being a liberal. These people want to live in a modern society but yet want things handled like we did in feudal times.
They do not understand why the Robber Barons are not called Road-Building Barons.
479 | Romantic Heretic Mar 4, 2015 11:12:25am |
re: #466 The Mother Of All Pies
You should point out to her that St. Ayn Rand is actually the Marxist version of a Satanist. She accepted the theology but inverted it so good is bad and bad is good.
480 | Decatur Deb Mar 4, 2015 11:20:55am |
Welcome to Selma/Goodbye Selma billboards near the Pettus bridge.
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Image: Selma%20Confederate%20Billboard.4.jpg
It’s nice that Forrest has friends. The effort to organize a trip to Bloody Sunday is not going well.
481 | b_sharp Mar 4, 2015 12:02:14pm |
re: #456 WhatEVs
Holy cow! Where are you again? I am in Canada (near Detroit) and it’s nowhere near that cold. It’s actually above freezing for the first time in weeks.
Ever heard of a little place called Saskatchewan? Only Winnipeg has a reputation of being colder than cities here.