An Amazing Classical Guitar Performance: Declan Zapala, "Koyunbaba: IV. Presto" (By Carlo Domeniconi)

An Amazing Classical Guitar Performance: Declan Zapala, “Koyunbaba: IV. Presto” (By Carlo Domeniconi)

Tremolo, classical style

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An intense performance of an insanely demanding classical guitar piece, by British guitarist Declan Zapala. Be ready to catch your jaw, because it will drop.

Koyunbaba, Op.19, composed by Carlo Domeniconi, performed by Declan Zapala (UK).
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Tuning: C#G#C#G#C#E
Guitar: Stephen Hill 1a Primera Maple Cedar Lattice Top Spanish Guitar.
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Full 4-movement version featured on Declan’s debut album “Awakenings”, available now: http://declanzapala.com/shop/
Video created by Guy Traviss: http://www.facebook.com/guytravissjournalism
Recorded at Attico Art Centre, Watford, UK: http://www.atticoartcentre.com
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YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/declanzapala
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/Declan_Zapala
Website: http://www.declanzapala.com

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476 comments

wrenchwench Aug 28, 2015 • 4:06:46pm

But he didn’t play it behind his head!

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:07:32pm

We are definitely going to need clips from the Palin/Trump interview.

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:16:14pm

re: #2 #FergusonFireside

We are definitely going to need clips from the Palin/Trump interview.

Another press conference on MSNBC right now.

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:18:24pm

“I figured you would ask that because you’re with CNN, and CNN is just terrible.” Crowd erupts.

Playing these gullible wingnuts like a Steinway.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 28, 2015 • 4:18:30pm

re: #2 #FergusonFireside

We are definitely going to need clips from the Palin/Trump interview.

the incoherent in pursuit of the indigestible

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:22:44pm

He just said the gangs in Ferguson again.

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:22:57pm

They’re going to be gone so fast!

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 28, 2015 • 4:23:20pm

George F. Will’s column this week: “Every sulfurous belch from the molten interior of the volcanic Trump phenomenon injures the chances of a Republican presidency.”

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:24:08pm

re: #8 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

George Will is a total penis, but that’s a good one.

Chan Kobun Aug 28, 2015 • 4:26:31pm

Inspired by a commenter at driftglass, a song for today. I’ve had this in my head for two days now and it’s gotta come out.
(to the tune of When Johnny Comes Marching Home)

The pigs go marching one by one,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching one by one,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching one by one,
They’ll ruin it all before they’re done,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching two by two,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching two by two,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching two by two,
They’ll screw us all before they’re through,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching three by three,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching three by three,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching three by three,
It spells the end for you and me,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching four by four,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching four by four,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching four by four,
They have it all but they want more,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching five by five,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching five by five,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching five by five,
They can win if we take a dive,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching six by six,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching six by six,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching six by six,
They need his hate to get their fix,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching seven by seven,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching seven by seven,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching seven by seven,
They think he’s picked by God in heaven,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching eight by eight,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching eight by eight,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching eight by eight,
They’ll wall us in and seal the gate,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching nine by nine,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching nine by nine,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching nine by nine,
They scream “F-U ‘cuz I got mine!”,
And they’ll all vote Trump in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

The pigs go marching ten by ten,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching ten by ten,
“T-rump! T-rump!”
The pigs go marching ten by ten,
And we’re all screwed if Trump gets in,
So get out the vote in Two Thousand and Sixteen.

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:27:28pm

“You’re going to see so many victories if I’m elected President”

Jenner7 Aug 28, 2015 • 4:28:05pm

re: #11 #FergusonFireside

Well, I’m convinced!

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:29:20pm

Silent Majority mentioned again. Does the TRUMP not know of the origins?

Richard Nixon first used the term in a speech on Nov. 3, 1969, that sought to explain to a country riven by war protests why he needed their support for his plan to end the conflict in Vietnam. His use of the phrase came in the closing of the speech when he said:

And so tonight — to you, the great silent majority of my fellow Americans — I ask for your support. I pledged in my campaign for the presidency to end the war in a way that we could win the peace. I have initiated a plan of action which will enable me to keep that pledge. The more support I can have from the American people, the sooner that pledge can be redeemed; for the more divided we are at home, the less likely the enemy is to negotiate in Paris.

It was seen by Nixon supporters as a populist call for conservatives to rally to his side amid the protests (and the counter-culture) movement that was growing in voice and support at the time.

But to Nixon detractors, the term, which Nixon had toyed with during the 1968 campaign — often calling it the “forgotten majority” — was racially coded language meant to rally whites against perceived encroaching threats to their culture and way of life.

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:29:26pm

re: #12 Jenner7

Well, I’m convinced!

It’s unbelievable.

EPR-radar Aug 28, 2015 • 4:29:38pm

re: #8 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

George F. Will’s column this week: “Every sulfurous belch from the molten interior of the volcanic Trump phenomenon injures the chances of a Republican presidency.”

Of course George Will makes no mention of the rather pertinent facts that the sulfurous belches of Trumpism come from the landfill fire of the GOP base, and that keeping said landfill fire burning has been the highest priority of the GOP establishment for decades.

Jenner7 Aug 28, 2015 • 4:30:36pm

Is it on his hat? If it’s on his hat, he will do it.

b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 4:31:14pm

re: #11 #FergusonFireside

“You’re going to see so many victories if I’m elected President”

Watch out Grenada!

Jenner7 Aug 28, 2015 • 4:32:33pm

Gotta make dinner. For some reason my family is hungry. Gah!

BBL.

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:34:50pm

re: #18 Jenner7

Gotta make dinner. For some reason my family is hungry. Gah!

BBL.

No french toast.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 28, 2015 • 4:34:51pm

re: #18 Jenner7

Gotta make dinner. For some reason my family is hungry. Gah!

BBL.

You shouldn’t have let them read the food discussion in the last thread, then.

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:37:12pm

re: #3 Kid A

Another press conference on MSNBC right now.

And another term that needs to be re-defined.

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:38:47pm

re: #21 BeachDem

And another term that needs to be re-defined.

I’m just flabbergasted hearing his bullshit spew. They ask the question, he never, ever answers it.

I think the repetition is going to get old. I hope.

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:38:49pm

re: #13 Kid A

Silent Majority mentioned again. Does the TRUMP not know of the origins?

I only WISH they would be silent—for even two seconds. It would be such a relief.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 28, 2015 • 4:39:51pm

BREAKING: Official Misconduct Charge Filed Against Renegade Clerk Kim Davis By Rowan ... - http://t.co/CUKrfiteCc pic.twitter.com/VF4Ue7IiXY

— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) August 28, 2015

I’m seeing that charges have been referred to the AG but not filed yet, necessarily. Hopefully Sleuth can weigh in.

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:42:01pm

re: #22 #FergusonFireside

I’m just flabbergasted hearing his bullshit spew. They ask the question, he never, ever answers it.

I think the repetition is going to get old. I hope.

I’m more flabbergasted that the so-called “news” media think his bullshit deserves 24/7 coverage. He doesn’t have to spend a dime for advertising—just step in front of a microphone and the lemmings follow along.

The media disgust me even more than Trump. gahhh.

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:42:05pm

CHY-NAH!

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:42:55pm

re: #25 BeachDem

I’m more flabbergasted that the so-called “news” media think his bullshit deserves 24/7 coverage. He doesn’t have to spend a dime for advertising—just step in front of a microphone and the lemmings follow along.

The media disgust me even more than Trump. gahhh.

He’s on now, spewing.

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 4:44:08pm

Trump says the same things in every one of these appearances.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 28, 2015 • 4:44:38pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Trump says the same things in every one of these appearances.

I’d say there’s something to be said for consistency but the reality is that most of his audience probably doesn’t remember the details from one to another.

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 4:44:42pm

Donald Trump’s Newest Campaign Ad

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:45:05pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Trump says the same things in every one of these appearances.

Well he’s throwing Ukraine under the bus this time. Think that’s new.

teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 4:45:13pm

The haze from wildfire smoke is making a comeback. *cough*

stpaulbear Aug 28, 2015 • 4:45:36pm

re: #13 Kid A

But to Nixon detractors, the term, which Nixon had toyed with during the 1968 campaign — often calling it the “forgotten majority” — was racially coded language meant to rally whites against perceived encroaching threats to their culture and way of life.

Yep. I was around back then. That’s pretty much what it was. It put a name to hippie-bashing and ‘America-Love it or leave it’.

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:46:19pm

re: #27 #FergusonFireside

He’s on now, spewing.

Thanks, but no thanks. And after he’s done spewing, the “pundits” will spend the rest of the evening analyzing every pearl of wisdom he’s spewed.

Then they’ll spend the weekend pondering why he gets so much coverage, as they provide wall-to-wall coverage.

Nope—been to that movie; didn’t like the ending.

FormerDirtDart Aug 28, 2015 • 4:46:31pm

@BennettJohnT Some dads buy run down upper borough real estate, some dads develop nuclear weapons.
— Steven Metz (@steven_metz) August 28, 2015

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 4:46:47pm

Trump is now repeating the false story that Iran is going to “self-inspect.” It was debunked more than a week ago, but he keeps saying it.

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:47:33pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Trump says the same things in every one of these appearances.

Thank you for calling them appearances, rather than dignifying them as BREAKING NEWS PRESS CONFERENCES.

FormerDirtDart Aug 28, 2015 • 4:47:43pm

#DonaldTrump says it's not a fundraiser. What does this sign say to you? BTW, it has been removed. @CNNPolitics @CNN pic.twitter.com/cVNaEyveO4

— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) August 28, 2015

Nyet Aug 28, 2015 • 4:48:16pm

re: #31 #FergusonFireside

What did he say?

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:49:05pm

Donald Trump sits in his office in the midtown Manhattan building that bears his name —“the most luxurious building in the world,” he calls it. All week he has been lampooned in Garry Trudeau’s comic strip, Doonesbury. In one series, Trudeau has Trump in front of a press conference, protesting that his alleged presidential ambitions are nothing more than “a billionaire developer exercising his right to float trial balloons.”
“‘Doonesbury,’ Doonesbury,’ everybody’s asking me to respond to ‘Doonesbury,’” Trump says, a bit exasperated. A day earlier he said he was only vaguely aware of the comic strip and had dismissed the barbs with a wave of his hand: “People tell me I should be flattered.” Now he will lay the political rumors to rest. “I’m not running for president,” he says, “but if I did… I’d win. There, I said it. I didn’t think I would, but I did.”

Newsweek, 1987.

b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 4:50:12pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Trump is now repeating the false story that Iran is going to “self-inspect.” It was debunked more than a week ago, but he keeps saying it.

Forget it, he’s rolling.

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 4:51:00pm

There he goes with the “bing bing bing” stuff again. Like a Mafia don.

GlutenFreeJesus Aug 28, 2015 • 4:51:17pm

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:51:58pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

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BREAKING NEWS—Donald Trump about to say something stupid. STAY TUNED—BREAKING NEWS.

Once again, so glad I put my journalism education to use in the more honorable profession of advertising.
half/

Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 4:51:58pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Trump is now repeating the false story that Iran is going to “self-inspect.” It was debunked more than a week ago, but he keeps saying it.

Because the audience he’s appealing to believe it. He’s a bullshitter. He doesn’t care what’s true or not. He only cares what works.

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:52:19pm

re: #39 Nyet

What did he say?

Something about we only support them because of Mercedes Benz.

teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 4:53:43pm

ISIS Operatives Destroy Hofner Bass Guitar Signed By Paul McCartney http://t.co/sTgQBpVi65 pic.twitter.com/CzuhYLRFBU

— The Onion (@TheOnion) August 28, 2015

Amory Blaine Aug 28, 2015 • 4:53:44pm

Bada bing bada boom my administration is gonna be a yoooge success you pathetic losers!!!
//

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 4:53:54pm

Right wingers really do love them some assholes.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 28, 2015 • 4:54:35pm

a billboard in colorado

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:54:51pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Right wingers really do love them some assholes.

As do the media sycophant assholes. Hmmm—maybe I’m noticing a pattern.

b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 4:54:59pm

re: #50 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

a billboard in colorado

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oh my

b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 4:55:15pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Right wingers really do love them some assholes.

anthony weiner is a sleazeball though

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:55:15pm

TRUMP is sweating like a pig.

EPR-radar Aug 28, 2015 • 4:55:23pm

re: #25 BeachDem

I’m more flabbergasted that the so-called “news” media think his bullshit deserves 24/7 coverage. He doesn’t have to spend a dime for advertising—just step in front of a microphone and the lemmings follow along.

The media disgust me even more than Trump. gahhh.

The MSM’s news coverage of politics is just as good as its coverage of all other important issues.

Amory Blaine Aug 28, 2015 • 4:55:52pm

Puff the magic libtard dragon.

teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 4:56:35pm

re: #50 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Just goes to show that we aren’t all enlightened in Colorado. I’m surprised they got all the spelling correct, no CONSTITION hilarity.

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:56:42pm

The American flag lapel pin he is wearing should be replaced with a middle finger lapel pin.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 28, 2015 • 4:57:18pm

as if that wasnt enuf

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:57:22pm

Won’t this Trump appearance detract from Sister Sarah’s oh so important interview tonight? (Can’t remember what time that trainwreck was supposed to take place.)

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:57:51pm

re: #60 BeachDem

Won’t this Trump appearance detract from Sister Sarah’s oh so important interview tonight? (Can’t remember what time that trainwreck was supposed to take place.)

The website crashed.

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:58:24pm

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 4:59:07pm

re: #61 #FergusonFireside

The website crashed.

It’s been down for more than an hour now.

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 4:59:20pm

re: #61 #FergusonFireside

The website crashed.

I’m laughing so hard I scared my neighbors.

Amory Blaine Aug 28, 2015 • 4:59:23pm

re: #59 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

But Hillary should apologise. SMH

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 4:59:48pm

Oh for fuck’s sake, he just trotted out the “93 million people aren’t working” wingnut bullshit.

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 4:59:59pm

All of them. https://t.co/WpfoBlg3o5

— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) August 28, 2015

EPR-radar Aug 28, 2015 • 5:00:20pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Right wingers really do love them some assholes.

IMO that’s the single most important point about Donald Trump’s run. It really is the “Vote for me because I’m a rich asshole” campaign.

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 5:00:40pm

So Trump, are 88-year-old retirees and juniors in high school going to build your wall? They make up that 93 million.

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 5:01:15pm

CNN switched to Anderson Cooper’s Katrina special. Good.

b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 5:01:47pm

Has anyone asked Barbara Bush what she thinks on Donald Trump?

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 5:02:03pm

Trump is showing he's not a misogynistic jerk with a sick, sleazy personal attack on Clinton aide Huma Abedin.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 29, 2015

Kid A Aug 28, 2015 • 5:02:30pm

Chris Hayes just led off his show laughing his ass off.

EPR-radar Aug 28, 2015 • 5:02:47pm

re: #69 Kid A

So Trump, are 88-year-old retirees and juniors in high school going to build your wall? They make up that 93 million.

Put them all to work. If you don’t work, you don’t eat.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 28, 2015 • 5:03:29pm

re: #24 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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I’m seeing that charges have been referred to the AG but not filed yet, necessarily. Hopefully Sleuth can weigh in.

Meanwhile, the Rowan County Attorney’s Office said on Friday that it has referred to the Attorney General’s Office a charge of official misconduct against Davis. A release from the county attorneys office says Kentucky Bar Association “Rules of the Supreme Court of Kentucky prohibit the Rowan County Attorney’s Office from prosecuting Davis” because they are involved in current litigation with Davis.

wkyt.com

BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 5:06:25pm

I’m gonna go watch “Casablanca” followed by “Gaslight.” Seems an appropriate activity.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 28, 2015 • 5:11:26pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

wkyt.com

UPDATE: County attorney asks AG Conway to appoint special prosecutor to investigate Rowan County Clerk: http://t.co/voY3Sz43WX

— heraldleader (@heraldleader) August 28, 2015

Skip Intro Aug 28, 2015 • 5:14:00pm

Welcome to Trumpmerica

A glimpse of a really, really classy tomorrow.
.
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.

This used to be Kennedy airport, but it has been rechristened, the first major airport ever to be named after a sitting president. (“Kennedy was fine. But he wasn’t a great president. I like presidents who weren’t assassinated.”)

foreignpolicy.com

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 28, 2015 • 5:16:41pm

much coolness:

Eagle and owl bench Chainsaw carving Art by Ryan Cook The Great Spirit Wakan Tanka https://t.co/4bUmgTEdqt pic.twitter.com/nA2RlCvk1t

— Joyce Jeffries (@MsRock4Ever) August 26, 2015

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 5:19:30pm

The media still seem giddy about Donald Trump, but I'm at the point of really loathing this guy. This is a horrible human being.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 29, 2015

teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 5:19:41pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now that’s what I call a bench.

Skip Intro Aug 28, 2015 • 5:20:03pm

The bitterest woman in America squawks.

WTH, LAMESTREAM MEDIA! STAY OUT OF MY BIBLE

WTH? Lamestream media asks GOP personal, spiritual “gotchas” that they’d NEVER ask Hillary, or they’d feed the question to her and/or liberal cohorts before they asked it on-air (we know how these things work, lapdog media… the public’s on to you), so good on Trump for screwing with the reporter. By the way, even with my reading scripture everyday I wouldn’t want to answer the guy’s question either… it’s none of his business; it IS personal; what the heck does it have to do with serving as commander-in-chief; and these reporters trying to trip up conservatives can go pound sand until they ask the same things of their favored liberal pals. I’ll cover this in my interview with Donald Trump and other candidates tonight on the One America News Network show “On Point.” The more the media does this, the more they empower America to reject them and their bias as voters run to the anti-status quo candidates daring to Go Rogue.

facebook.com

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 28, 2015 • 5:21:25pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

The bitterest woman in America squawks.

facebook.com

LOLOLOLOL!

blueraven Aug 28, 2015 • 5:21:30pm

re: #39 Nyet

What did he say?

Basically on Ukraine: Let the Germans help them. They can afford it.

South Korea…Well, they need to give us something for the 28,000 troops stationed there.

teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 5:23:34pm

No Depression Aug 28, 2015 • 5:25:31pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

The bitterest woman in America squawks.

facebook.com

Does she know what a paragraph is? Holy shit.

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 28, 2015 • 5:26:44pm

re: #86 No Depression

Does she know what a paragraph is? Holy shit.

She doesn’t even know how to form a simple declarative sentence.

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 5:26:52pm

And believe me, I'm used to seeing horrible humans who are Republican. Trump takes the awfulness to the next level.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 29, 2015

And that's exactly why he's so popular with the right wing audience. They've been conditioned to idolize the worst human attributes.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 29, 2015

Hatred, xenophobia, homophobia, racism, misogyny, dishonesty, hypocrisy -- these aren't negative to the debased right wing. They're pluses.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 29, 2015

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 5:28:05pm

Automatic block function: triggered. pic.twitter.com/COf8NcwsnS

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 29, 2015

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 5:28:13pm

The Anderson Cooper Katrina special is worth watching.

bratwurst Aug 28, 2015 • 5:28:22pm

Anti-Muslim Center for Security Policy to host rally in DC with Cruz, Trump via @Imagine2050 http://t.co/SPD0G103wA pic.twitter.com/qXvMcfkHpQ

— Hatewatch (@Hatewatch) August 28, 2015

I wonder how Ted would be running his campaign if he didn’t have Donald to lead the way for him.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 28, 2015 • 5:29:28pm

Kids are back in classes for many school districts in our area starting Tuesday but their teachers may not be.

Many local school districts are still trying to fill positions.

According to the U.S. Department of Education, there was just one subject in need of teachers in Wisconsin 25 years ago.

For the upcoming 2015-2016 school year, that number has grown to 18 subjects, including math and reading.

According to the Wisconsin Education Career Access Network (WECAN) there are still about 1,000 positions statewide that need to be filled before classes begin, including some in northeast Wisconsin.

hmmm hmmm i wonder why that is hmmm let me think…

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 28, 2015 • 5:31:16pm

Desperately craving a VP slot again, tonight jobless Sarah Palin asks Donald Trump questions even easier than the ones McCain didn't ask her

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) August 28, 2015

Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 5:32:50pm

Ted Cruz has to be seething about Donald Trump. "I was on track to be the worst human being in this race! CURSE YOU, TRUMP!"

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 29, 2015

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 5:32:55pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Where’s the interview?

Amory Blaine Aug 28, 2015 • 5:34:42pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

The bitterest woman in America squawks.

facebook.com

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 28, 2015 • 5:35:45pm

re: #95 #FergusonFireside

Where’s the interview?

apparently the website is down.

teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 5:36:18pm

O_o

Oh hell no! pic.twitter.com/wqRmYZt0Ow

— Aaron Abeyta (@ElHefeNOFX) August 29, 2015

#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 5:37:40pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

apparently the website is down.

Mrs. Betty is special.

100

Decatur Deb Aug 28, 2015 • 5:40:00pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

O_o

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Nope. Too weird for the Onion.

m.snopes.com

101

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 28, 2015 • 5:40:00pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

O_o

[Embedded content]

m.snopes.com

102

Decatur Deb Aug 28, 2015 • 5:40:44pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

m.snopes.com

Life is all about 100ths of seconds.

103

Amory Blaine Aug 28, 2015 • 5:41:42pm

I was going to say, no wonder the coffee tastes so good!
/

104

teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 5:41:49pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll be sure to pass that on to El Hefe.

@ElHefeNOFX Hoax, dude. http://t.co/AZFQYXvDdf

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 29, 2015

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Amory Blaine Aug 28, 2015 • 5:44:12pm

Stevie Ray Vaughan’s legend lives on 25 years after death

Before the last song of the last show of a two-night stand at Alpine Valley Music Theatre, guitar legend Eric Clapton stepped up to the microphone.

“I’d like to bring out to join me, in truth, the best guitar players in the entire world: Buddy Guy, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Robert Cray… Jimmie Vaughan.”

The group lit into an extended jam of the classic “Sweet Home Chicago,” with 40,000 people soaking up blistering guitar licks as the performers traded vocals.

Shortly after midnight on Aug. 27, 1990 — 25 years ago Thursday — four helicopters left Alpine Valley for Chicago, carrying performers and crew members. Three made it. The other flew barely a half-mile before crashing into a ski slope.

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Charles Johnson Aug 28, 2015 • 5:47:36pm

How to make Twitter useable: 1) Block early. 2) Block often. 3) Never look back.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 28, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 5:49:51pm

re: #76 BeachDem

I’m gonna go watch “Casablanca” followed by “Gaslight.” Seems an appropriate activity.

“Zee laahts are not lowerr - you must be crazzy!”

Yes, I know - Charles Boyer never says that. But I hear it in my head whenever I think of “Gaslight”

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 5:52:45pm

re: #105 Amory Blaine

Stevie Ray Vaughan’s legend lives on 25 years after death

A guy I used to work with said he almost wished he’d died instead of Stevie Ray Vaughan. After I got a copy of “The Sky Is Crying”, I told him I agreed - I, too, wished it was him instead of SRV.

I was kidding, of course.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 5:54:06pm

I have to admit, I want to watch the Trump/Palin interview.

Under Siege 2: Dark Territory - Train Crash (Full Scene HD)

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 5:56:20pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

“Recognizing the black plague of feminism and ready to go my own way”

Taking matters in his own hand, so to speak. I bet he has to do that a lot.

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FormerDirtDart Aug 28, 2015 • 5:57:25pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

I have to admit, I want to watch the Trump/Palin interview.

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You really don’t.
After it’s over, you’ll just feel annoyed, frustrated, insulted and kind of dirty

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 5:58:15pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Yeah, geez - French fry grease is not miscible in coffee.

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Chan Kobun Aug 28, 2015 • 5:59:33pm

This week’s Splatfest in Splatoon is Autobots vs. Decepticons. This may result in a war at our house because my roommate went Decepticon… and I refuse to debase myself that way. It is, however, bringing out the part of me that loves a good bad joke.

#Splatfest #Transformers #Splatoon #Miiverse #Nintendo https://t.co/889Rw2wlm5

— ˗ˏⲼhan Kobunˎˊ˗ (@Chankobun) August 29, 2015

THE SQUIDFORMERS ARE ALL SPLATTED #Splatoon #Splatfest #Miiverse #Nintendo #Transformers #Autobots #Decepticons https://t.co/OB2Smd62fA

— ˗ˏⲼhan Kobunˎˊ˗ (@Chankobun) August 29, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 5:59:54pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

You really don’t.
After it’s over, you’ll just feel annoyed, frustrated, insulted and kind of dirty

If I wanted that, I’d just pay for an Ashley Madison account!

Padumpum!

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Decatur Deb Aug 28, 2015 • 6:00:00pm

re: #112 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, geez - French fry grease is not miscible in coffee.

Touch of carbon tetrachloride and it whisks right in.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 6:01:51pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

Touch of carbon tetrachloride and it whisks right in.

(You know carbon tet isn’t miscible either, right?)

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 6:02:08pm

Casablanca is on. Thanks Beach Dem!

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 6:02:32pm

re: #117 #FergusonFireside

Casablanca is on. Thanks Beach Dem!

You despise me, don’t you Rick?

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Decatur Deb Aug 28, 2015 • 6:05:12pm

re: #116 Blind Frog Belly White

(You know carbon tet isn’t miscible either, right?)

We never tried it in coffee, just in Christmas tree ornaments. Stoddard Solvent is for wimps.

oldyorkmuseums.wordpress.com

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 6:06:50pm

re: #119 Decatur Deb

We never tried it in coffee, just in Christmas tree ornaments. Stoddard Solvent is for wimps.

oldyorkmuseums.wordpress.com

Stoddard Solvent is for watches. Mixed with a little Naphtha, it’s what almost all watch rinse solutions are. Add in some ammoniated compound or other, and you’ve got the wash solution.

ETA - Carbon Tet in glass balls? Shee-it!

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Decatur Deb Aug 28, 2015 • 6:09:26pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

Stoddard Solvent is for watches. Mixed with a little Naphtha, it’s what almost all watch rinse solutions are. Add in some ammoniated compound or other, and you’ve got the wash solution.

ETA - Carbon Tet in glass balls? Shee-it!

U.S. Pat. No. 2,871,952 discloses an automatic fire extinguisher in the form of a Christmas tree ornament. The body of the ornament is adapted to hold a fire extinguishing liquid and compressed air. An impact element is held in place by a fusible link, against the action of a spring. When the fusible link is broken by exposure to heat, the impact element is released and it fractures a normally closed end portion of a hollow frangible stem which is in communication with the interior of the vessel, thereby releasing the liquid inside to extinguish the fire.

google.com

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 28, 2015 • 6:10:34pm

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Well, yeah. DEFINITELY not Stoddards Solvent for THAT!

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Decatur Deb Aug 28, 2015 • 6:12:59pm

re: #122 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, yeah. DEFINITELY not Stoddards Solvent for THAT!

When OSHA kicked it, Stoddards became a popular hign-volume industrial solvent. Always left more residue than the ‘good stuff’, but the TLV was manageable.

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Chan Kobun Aug 28, 2015 • 6:13:03pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

You despise me, don’t you Rick?

“Well if I gave you any thought, I probably would.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 28, 2015 • 6:14:04pm

In searching Yelp for tiki bars, I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people have no fucking clue when it comes to Indian food.

It is not “chicken tiki masala.”

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 6:16:53pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

I have to admit, I want to watch the Trump/Palin interview.

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No. The Trump/Palin interview will be akin to watching the finale of Lost

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 6:18:38pm

I’m shocked, shocked at the gambling going on in here!

haha, best line.

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 6:19:57pm

re: #126 b.d.

No. The Trump/Palin interview will be akin to watching the finale of Lost

I don’t think anyone has seen it. Such a fail, she got her gig at a cut rate outfit (I used to drive by the place on the 5 freeway in San Diego) and now, noooooooo one saw it.

fitting.

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 6:26:10pm

re: #128 #FergusonFireside

I don’t think anyone has seen it. Such a fail, she got her gig at a cut rate outfit (I used to drive by the place on the 5 freeway in San Diego) and now, noooooooo one saw it.

fitting.

No one hass ever heard of One America News before Sarah got hired by them and I don’t know if any cable or satellite provider even offers them/

It reminds me too much of that manwhore Jeff Gannon employingTalon News Network for some reason?

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 6:28:53pm

re: #129 b.d.

No one hass ever heard of One America News before Sarah got hired by them and I don’t know if any cable or satellite provider even offers them/

It reminds me too much of that manwhore Jeff Gannon employingTalon News Network for some reason?

I always thought it was a financial scam network, how to get rich etc. No idea.

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 6:43:23pm

Not the best….but…

This is the best baseball play this season. RT @cdgoldstein: the vine is so much better: https://t.co/ZlqIg31aR9

— Ryan Hudson (@ry_hudson) August 29, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 6:44:59pm

re: #131 #FergusonFireside

WCU vs App State- Worst free throw ever

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Varek Raith Aug 28, 2015 • 6:46:18pm

re: #131 #FergusonFireside

Not the best….but…

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Time to be a hero…
FUCK

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:00:29pm

re: #131 #FergusonFireside

That was a heck of a leap. A few meters away from where he should have been but a heck of a leap nonetheless

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:00:42pm

What a bummer. Can’t watch the Trump/Palin interview. Website uses servers from 15 years ago apparently.

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thedopefishlives Aug 28, 2015 • 7:01:57pm

re: #131 #FergusonFireside

Not the best….but…

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I don’t know, I think Jose Bautista could give him a run for his money:

espn.go.com

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:03:34pm

re: #134 b.d.

That was a heck of a leap. A few meters away from where he should have been but a heck of a leap nonetheless

At least it didn’t hit on top of the head like Jose Canseco

Ball bounces off Canseco’s head

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:05:05pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

What a bummer. Can’t watch the Trump/Palin interview. Website uses servers from 15 years ago apparently.

I think Chuck C. Johnson could/should demand that he become an ace award winning anchor journalist for One America News.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:06:50pm

Ah, I see. It’s a grift.

$4.99 to watch Sarah Palin interview #Trump on One America Network? No thanks - infomercials, maybe. But not this pic.twitter.com/s0Saccqadm

— TrivWorks (@TrivWorks) August 29, 2015

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:08:38pm

Rick Santorrum on Bill Maher. Oh joy!

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thedopefishlives Aug 28, 2015 • 7:09:37pm

re: #140 b.d.

Rick Santorrum on Bill Maher. Oh joy!

Derpy and Derpier.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:10:43pm

re: #141 thedopefishlives

Derpy and Derpier.

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thedopefishlives Aug 28, 2015 • 7:11:59pm

re: #142 teleskiguy

I saw that upthread and I laughed. I definitely need to save that one to use later.

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:12:33pm

re: #141 thedopefishlives

Derpy and Derpier.

Like shooting fish in a barrel, pretty boring. I guess when you are polling 1% you look for stray additonal fundie voters on Bill Maher’s show?

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:12:46pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

She might be drunk. Prolly not. But maybe. pic.twitter.com/9JuoWl6srF

— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) August 29, 2015

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:13:05pm

So Palin is wrapping it up with Bush, after letting him spend most of his time plugging his "new-fangled e-book." Up next: Cruz interview!
— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) August 29, 2015

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:13:25pm

This is like Waynes World but with right wingers.
— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) August 29, 2015

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Varek Raith Aug 28, 2015 • 7:16:30pm

Heckuva job, Palin.

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:18:04pm

re: #145 jaunte

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Nice fake Diamond, Ruby and Sapphire American flag necklace.

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:19:01pm

Interviewing Santorum makes all involved look like idiots.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:19:18pm

re: #141 thedopefishlives

Derpy and Derpier.

If Trump & Palin go on a tour of America I hope they do it in a van that looks like a dog. #USA #branding

— Sabrina Cognata (@SabrinaSee) August 29, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:21:06pm

"Do you know any conservative patriots hellbent on jihad?" --Sarah Palin

— Wednesday Lee Friday (@WednesFri) August 29, 2015

Yes Sarah Palin, one shot up a church earlier this summer.

— Wednesday Lee Friday (@WednesFri) August 29, 2015

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thedopefishlives Aug 28, 2015 • 7:22:49pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

Yeah, and there’s more where that came from. Is she just stupid, or being willfully ignorant? And I know, the two are not mutually exclusive.

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prairiefire Aug 28, 2015 • 7:23:09pm

re: #145 jaunte

My guess is a bad mix of prescribed psycho drugs.

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:24:00pm

"You are one who would be walkin' the walk, not just talkin' the talk." - tough, tough questioning of Cruz by Palin. Cruz must be exhausted.
— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) August 29, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:24:08pm

Sarah Palin interviewing Donald Trump. A great reminder of why America banned lead paint. pic.twitter.com/aO7qNV3bY4

— The Baxter Bean (@TheBaxterBean) August 29, 2015

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 7:26:24pm

re: #147 jaunte

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So Harold has a subscription? Who is seeing this shitshow?

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:27:57pm

re: #157 #FergusonFireside

Not me, I have that $4.99 earmarked for other opportunities.

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:29:26pm

She's got Orrin Hatch on now talking about IRS targeting conservative groups. (It's BS, but whatever ...) He attributes it to unionization.
— digby (@digby56) August 29, 2015

Watching it via Twitter is much better.

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:30:56pm

Palin asks Sen. Hatch what Congress can do to shut down the IRS. She really asked this question. pic.twitter.com/oBmYQ2C5Qi

— Matthew Keys (@MatthewKeysLive) August 29, 2015

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:31:17pm

On
The
Phone

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:31:57pm

One America News Network appears to be uploading Sarah’s ~~fluffer work~~ interviews as soon as they’re done. Jeb! and Ted Cruz are online. Trump will come very soon, I imagine.

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No Depression Aug 28, 2015 • 7:36:51pm

re: #160 jaunte

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Go home Sarah, you are drunk.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:37:53pm

Trump is about to be ~~fellated~~ interviewed by Sarah Palin. Snarky Twitter is about to get fun.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:39:02pm

Here’s a Periscope of the Palin/Trump train wreck.

watching LIVE on #Periscope: Palin interview of Trump, other candidates. https://t.co/e1ElOqgROE

— CTel822 (@Chantel822) August 29, 2015

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:39:18pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

Trump is about to be ~~fellated~~ interviewed by Sarah Palin. Snarky Twitter is about to get fun.

I hope Twitter has some excess bandwidth ready.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:39:32pm

Trump: 93 million people out of work. Motherfuck.

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:39:54pm

Ohhhhh, everybody else Skyped in, but Trump's via satellite. From his shopping mall. Drops China, Japan, and Mexico into 1st sentence.
— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) August 29, 2015

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:40:36pm

re: #165 teleskiguy

Here’s a Periscope of the Palin/Trump train wreck.

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DOWN PERISCOPE!!!

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:40:53pm

Palin asking tough questions like "do you think our tax code needs to be simplified?" OMG Trump must be exhausted.

— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) August 29, 2015

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:41:26pm

He's going after the hedge funds. Sarah seems confused.
— digby (@digby56) August 29, 2015

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:42:10pm

AARRGGHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAARRGGHHRRGGHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAARRGGHH!!!

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:42:25pm

Palin-Trump interview: DERP DERP DERPITY DERPOOOO YUGE BWACK ACK LOSERS. HARGLE BARGLE YOU BETCHA WINK MAMA GRIZZLY, MERICA!

— meh kaleka hi (@hezster) August 29, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:43:46pm

Sarah Palin just called Jorge Ramos a “radical activist.”

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:43:50pm

You schooled that radical activist Ramos!

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:43:55pm

Palin on Jorge Ramos: "you schooled that radical activist." Trump: "he was ranting and raving...I'm suing Univision for 500 million dollars
— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) August 29, 2015

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:44:41pm

Say ‘radical activist’ three times and it’s the Truth.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:44:51pm

The persecution complex is thick. Someone call a whambulance.

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No Depression Aug 28, 2015 • 7:45:32pm

re: #176 jaunte

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Hahaha.

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:45:33pm

So personal religious opinions don’t matter in American politics Sarah?

Really? OK!

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 7:46:35pm

re: #180 b.d.

So personal religious opinions don’t matter in American politics Sarah?

Really? OK!

Grifters, all of em.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:46:57pm

Charles is right. The Donald™ says the same fucking things over and over again during these appearances. “My favorite book is the bible, my second favorite is The Art of the Deal.”

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 7:47:25pm

Palin to Trump: "You're seeing some idiots in the press, and they're misrepresenting some of your exchanges."
— Matthew Keys (@MatthewKeysLive) August 29, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:47:54pm

The Donald says his fave bible verse is "too personal" to reveal. But he makes blowjob jokes on The Apprentice.

— Wednesday Lee Friday (@WednesFri) August 29, 2015

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:49:24pm

Well, that kind of sucked. Sarah is a nimrod, Donald is a blowhard.

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b.d. Aug 28, 2015 • 7:50:13pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

Charles is right. The DonaldTM says the same fucking things over and over again during these appearances. “My favorite book is the bible, my second favorite is The Art of the Deal.”

The Donald is a vaudeville act. Vaudeville died when the new thing called radio meant that you couldn’t peddle your same BS over and over again.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:50:39pm

The Presidential candidates must be totally exhausted after the tough questioning. Tragedy she didn't get to "what's your favorite color?"

— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) August 29, 2015

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No Depression Aug 28, 2015 • 7:50:40pm

re: #184 teleskiguy

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I bet it’s Ezekiel 23:19-21. It talks about things that are YOOGE.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 28, 2015 • 7:52:35pm

Lot, in the cave, with his daughters. @WednesFri

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) August 29, 2015

Bet on it.

That Time Donald Trump Made A Creepy Incest Joke About His Daughter

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Reality Based Steve Aug 28, 2015 • 7:52:48pm

re: #145 jaunte

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Lets just say that she looks a LOT like one (most) of the strippers at a place back near St. Louis many many years ago called “Dotties Body Shop”. If you didn’t have at least 1 C-section scar and an inverted nipple, you were way too classy to be working there. The tables also had tablecloths, and it wasn’t because it was a classy joint. (at least according to my friends, me being the sweet and innocent that I am would never be familiar with an establishment like that). Oh, and the draft beer was usually flat.

RBS

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 7:53:26pm

And…here it is, folks. It’s not that great.

‘On Point’ with Gov. Sarah Palin & Donald Trump

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Reality Based Steve Aug 28, 2015 • 7:55:18pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

And…here it is, folks. It’s not that great.

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But you know The Wonkette is going to have some great fun with it.

RBS

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 7:57:49pm

Palin's going to start using the term "pull the Trump" which may not mean what she thinks it means.
— digby (@digby56) August 29, 2015

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goddamnedfrank Aug 28, 2015 • 7:57:51pm

Orwell meets Idiocracy.

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Pip's Squeak Aug 28, 2015 • 7:59:41pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

Now that’s what I call a bench.

Tastes differ. I think it’s awful.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 8:01:46pm

re: #195 Pip’s Squeak

Ooooh-kay…

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 8:03:26pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

Ooooh-kay…

Tastes differ. It’s ok.

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Belafon Aug 28, 2015 • 8:04:11pm

re: #195 Pip’s Squeak

Tastes differ. I think it’s awful.

I think the right word is impressive: Carved with a chain saw.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 28, 2015 • 8:04:26pm

re: #197 #FergusonFireside

Tastes differ. It’s ok.

NO IT ISN’T!!!

…

*I’ve had a lot of coffee today.*

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 8:04:51pm

re: #197 #FergusonFireside

Tastes differ. It’s ok.

That’s what I said, just with emphasis.

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thedopefishlives Aug 28, 2015 • 8:04:58pm

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

NO IT ISN’T!!!

…

*I’ve had a lot of coffee today.*

Looks like we might need to propose an inverse to the Iron Fist rule: If you think you’re too wired to post, you are too wired to post.

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William Lewis Aug 28, 2015 • 8:05:11pm

re: #195 Pip’s Squeak

Tastes differ. I think it’s awful.

I can respect the work needed to wield a chainsaw to create it. I”d have to be paid seven figures to have it in my house though.

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 8:09:33pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

Looks like we might need to propose an inverse to the Iron Fist rule: If you think you’re too wired to post, you are too wired to post.

Iron fist rule….re-educate me on that? Sometimes people post an acronym that I don’t recognize, but clearly see it’s stop posting while too much in the drink. Is it IFR? or?

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thedopefishlives Aug 28, 2015 • 8:12:37pm

re: #203 #FergusonFireside

Iron fist rule….re-educate me on that? Sometimes people post an acronym that I don’t recognize, but clearly see it’s stop posting while too much in the drink. Is it IFR? or?

Iron Fist rule: If you think you are too drunk to post, you are too drunk to post. Termed after a former Lizard of the same name who, apparently, had issues with LGFUI (LGF’ing Under the Influence).

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Kragar Aug 28, 2015 • 8:12:46pm

When Gerrymandering turns out AWESOME! http://t.co/xOTGyLKTCe

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 29, 2015

Self-interested business owners successfully petitioned the Columbia, Missouri, city council to create a local Community Improvement District, which would have the authority to impose a half-cent sales tax increase with voter approval. However, the district lines were drawn in a manner that attempted to avoid containing any eligible voters, meaning that property-owners themselves would get to decide on the sales tax increase as a way to avoid further property taxes to pay for improvements.

Unfortunately for them, things didn’t exactly go according to plan. It soon became known that a single voter, University of Missouri student Jen Henderson, was registered to vote in the new CID. That means that she alone will get to decide whether or not to approve the sales tax increase. The CID has already gone into debt to finance planned improvements and was counting on the increased revenue from the sales tax increase.

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 8:13:24pm

re: #204 thedopefishlives

Iron Fist rule: If you think you are too drunk to post, you are too drunk to post. Termed after a former Lizard of the same name who, apparently, had issues with LGFUI (LGF’ing Under the Influence).

Got it. IF rule.

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prairiefire Aug 28, 2015 • 8:14:21pm

re: #205 Kragar

Oh my law, my state.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 28, 2015 • 8:26:06pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

Looks like we might need to propose an inverse to the Iron Fist rule: If you think you’re too wired to post, you are too wired to post.

NO U!!!

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 8:27:26pm

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

*I’ve had a lot of coffee today.*

re: #201 thedopefishlives

Looks like we might need to propose an inverse to the Iron Fist rule: If you think you’re too wired to post, you are too wired to post.

LAGWAGON - Mr. Coffee

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 8:30:33pm

Cops out of control.

#AlanCPean news story http://t.co/a9kmvbS5tE his brother's story #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/YhpP7kI0ez

— Earnesta Taylor (@etlaw) August 28, 2015

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jaunte Aug 28, 2015 • 8:30:50pm

re: #202 William Lewis

I can respect the work needed to wield a chainsaw to create it. I”d have to be paid seven figures to have it in my house though.

How's this? From http://t.co/NX3Y4WWalz https://t.co/ql3R99kkJH pic.twitter.com/iUV9WL9Wdj

— Lisa Rowe (@txvoodoo) August 29, 2015

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retired cynic Aug 28, 2015 • 8:32:13pm

re: #210 #FergusonFireside

Cops out of control.

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OMG!

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 8:33:05pm

re: #211 jaunte

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That must weigh a ton. I love octi, so I’d hang it.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 28, 2015 • 8:34:22pm

re: #197 #FergusonFireside

Tastes differ. It’s ok.

Location matters. That’s good shit to have at at vacation cabin in Wyoming. It would look out of place at Fountainebleu Castle.

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 8:34:56pm

re: #212 retired cynic

OMG!

Yeah, when the answer to any combativeness is to kill….Take away their weapons….so fucked up.

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 28, 2015 • 8:35:40pm

re: #105 Amory Blaine

Damn. 25 years ago today. I was there that day and I still can’t believe he’s gone.

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prairiefire Aug 28, 2015 • 8:36:46pm

re: #216 GlutenFreeJesus

Damn. 25 years ago today. I was there that day and I still can’t believe he’s gone.

Awe, man.

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goddamnedfrank Aug 28, 2015 • 8:41:58pm

re: #211 jaunte

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Looks like something from Bioshock.

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austin_blue Aug 28, 2015 • 8:44:31pm

The statue in Austin:

Image: 5378870034_46d1bace52_b.jpg

And a simple little piece of Texas Roadhouse Guitar Foo:

Stevie Ray Vaughan - Little Wing

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#CampaignZero Aug 28, 2015 • 8:49:14pm

Night all. Book reading time.

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prairiefire Aug 28, 2015 • 8:53:22pm

re: #219 austin_blue

Thank you!

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 8:54:11pm

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 8:55:02pm

re: #219 austin_blue

Stevie Ray’s Little Wing is the best Little Wing. He didn’t even need to sing the song.

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Jenner7 Aug 28, 2015 • 8:57:01pm

Video
Trump attacking Huma and Anthony Weiner

Is he in a bar?

And CNN aired this part. Disgusting.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 28, 2015 • 9:00:02pm

re: #209 teleskiguy

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“The Java Jive” (Ink Spots, 1940)

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 9:03:08pm

re: #225 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Coffee, and Soul Food!

Albert Collins - Soul Food

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 28, 2015 • 9:09:02pm

I missed the food discussion, so:

I love all varieties of Brassica oloracea that I’ve tried, but broccoli most of all I guess, and I love fish and seafood in general, except for salmon, which tastes like cat food. Flame away!

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vgranucci Aug 28, 2015 • 9:12:32pm

re: #50 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

a billboard in colorado

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that one almost seems like parody. I believe Poe’s law may apply.

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retired cynic Aug 28, 2015 • 9:12:45pm

re: #227 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You might like my mother’s salmon steaks: grilled with mesquite and dill added to the usual seasonings and a drizzle of olive oil.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 9:15:23pm

re: #228 vgranucci

that one almost seems like parody. I believe Poe’s law may apply.

The fact that it was spotted in Colorado, my home state…shit. I shouldn’t be that surprised. Rick Santorum won the Colorado caucus in the 2012 primaries.

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Jenner7 Aug 28, 2015 • 9:18:18pm

Rand Paul will be in Orem, Utah tomorrow morning for a rally. That’s about 10 minutes away from where I live. I’m tempted to go.

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 28, 2015 • 9:18:36pm

Can someone remind me how to private comment to an individual?

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goddamnedfrank Aug 28, 2015 • 9:19:11pm

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goddamnedfrank Aug 28, 2015 • 9:20:13pm

re: #232 The Ghost of a Flea

Can someone remind me how to private comment to an individual?

Click on the ? above the “show users” button.

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WhatEVs Aug 28, 2015 • 9:21:32pm

re: #216 GlutenFreeJesus

I was there that night, too. Stevie Ray Vaughn, Robert Cray (whom I was a huge fan of) and, IIRC, Clapton, right?

I was completely numb hearing the news. For days. It was surreal. I mean, we just saw him and…gone. Completely surreal.

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 28, 2015 • 9:21:48pm

Thanks

(also…I’m daft. Never thought about that giant green question mark)

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WhatEVs Aug 28, 2015 • 9:24:23pm

re: #227 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I missed the food discussion, so:

I love all varieties of Brassica oloracea that I’ve tried, but broccoli most of all I guess, and I love fish and seafood in general, except for salmon, which tastes like cat food. Flame away!

Here’s one for ya. I saw a recipe today for whole roasted cauliflower with a beer-cheese sauce. It looked heavenly. I’m cooking up that bad boy this weekend.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 9:24:28pm

re: #233 goddamnedfrank

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 9:25:34pm

re: #236 The Ghost of a Flea

Thanks

(also…I’m daft. Never thought about that giant green question mark)

The giant green question mark will answer all your questions! Lizards, it’s true! Just hover or click on the giant green question mark at the bottom of the comment field!

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Shiplord Kirel Aug 28, 2015 • 9:26:03pm

re: #50 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

a billboard in colorado

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That’s not a dragon! It’s our new, just revealed fire-breathing UBER-LIZARD! Time to invite the Donald to a cookout.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 9:27:43pm

re: #240 Shiplord Kirel

That’s not a dragon! It’s our new, just revealed fire-breathing UBER-LIZARD! Time to invite the Donald to a cookout.

After nearly a decade without a sighting, the legendary "Lizard Man" returns http://t.co/2CJZtFHPBJ pic.twitter.com/s9kSDjijtm

— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 8, 2015

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 28, 2015 • 9:30:39pm

re: #229 retired cynic

You might like my mother’s salmon steaks: grilled with mesquite and dill added to the usual seasonings and a drizzle of olive oil.

Oh, I’ve had salmon that was better than other salmon. What you have to avoid is overcooking it, and it goes from raw to catfood-tasting overcooked in about a microsecond. But like you say, get some good smoke in there and that covers a multitude of sins. I’d be a fine figure of a Norwegian if I didn’t like smoked salmon—but smoked halibut is better </blasphemy>

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WhatEVs Aug 28, 2015 • 9:30:55pm

Fascinating show on AHC on How Superman Defeated the KKK.

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Shiplord Kirel Aug 28, 2015 • 9:31:23pm

This could be the cutest thing in all history:

MP4 Video

The Real South Australia

Cuteness alert! We’ve got a gorgeous video of ‪#‎Kangaroo‬ Island’s Scotty the wallaby having lunch! Could he be any cuter? Courtesy of Exceptional Kangaroo Island ‪#‎SouthAustralia‬

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makeitstop Aug 28, 2015 • 9:34:55pm

re: #223 teleskiguy

Stevie Ray’s Little Wing is the best Little Wing. He didn’t even need to sing the song.

If it wasn’t for Jimi, there would be no “Little Wing.” The original towers above all the covers. Clapton couldn’t top it, nor could SRV.

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William Lewis Aug 28, 2015 • 9:37:53pm

SRV was a hell of a great player. Saw him once a couple of years before that night and loved it. Rest gently, sir.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 9:38:18pm

re: #245 makeitstop

If it wasn’t for Jimi, there would be no “Little Wing.”

This is correct. I still think Stevie Ray’s version is the best. And hell, Derek & The Dominoes’ version isn’t better than Jimi’s but it is different and, I think, just as beautiful.

Little Wing is transcendent. Its interpretations are widely varied, as they should be.

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makeitstop Aug 28, 2015 • 9:45:39pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

This is correct. I still think Stevie Ray’s version is the best. And hell, Derek & The Dominoes’ version isn’t better than Jimi’s but it is different and, I think, just as beautiful.

Little Wing is transcendent. Its interpretations are widely varied, as they should be.

When it comes to SRV instrumentals, I think “Riviera Paradise” was his greatest. I liked that so much more than the Jimi cover. That one sets a mood all its own.

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Great White Snark Aug 28, 2015 • 9:45:49pm

Hello late shift Lizards,
Nothing like confronting a person trying to jimmy the front gate who you know has been arrested hereabouts before for crack dealing to remind one they live in LA, and it’s Friday night. Thing is this guys customers got evicted a couple weeks ago so perhaps now that he has been, um… formally and clearly notified his customers are gone he will stay away.

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Reality Based Steve Aug 28, 2015 • 9:45:52pm

Well, I’m off to bed. Opening the shop up a little early tomorrow for some people that forgot to pick up some gear for this weekend. Get to dive Sunday, and now that I’m over that gut problem, so looking forward to it.

You all have a good one, and don’t eat the salmon in the fridge, it’s for the cat.

RBS

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 9:50:04pm

re: #248 makeitstop

Speaking of covers, you know who I think plays the best Johnny B. Goode? Jimi Hendrix.

Jimi Hendrix - Johnny B. Goode

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 28, 2015 • 9:50:13pm

re: #240 Shiplord Kirel

That’s not a dragon! It’s our new, just revealed fire-breathing UBER-LIZARD! Time to invite the Donald to a cookout.

what was that term that, i think, D_F used that describes how one conspiracy theory tends to glom on to all other conspiracy theories?

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Great White Snark Aug 28, 2015 • 9:52:43pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

The Disturbed cover of Sound Of Silence that was posted here was an eye opener. This is a favorite of mine, albeit from a band that remains obscure. Video

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 28, 2015 • 9:52:46pm

re: #252 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what was that term that, i think, D_F used that describes how one conspiracy theory tends to glom on to all other conspiracy theories?

“Crank Magnetism”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 28, 2015 • 9:53:47pm

Bill Maher tells Josh Duggar: It’s not a porn addiction — ‘Dude, you’re just horny’

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Aug 28, 2015 • 9:55:08pm

re: #254 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Crank Magnetism”

ah, thank you, that was it!

our trump the dragon slayer billboard shows crank magnetism fer sure

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makeitstop Aug 28, 2015 • 9:59:44pm

The wife and I went to see Edgar Winter and Eric Burdon tonight, as guests of a friend whose company services the sound rigs for most of the larger venues in the NYC area. Edgar had a small band of young dudes who absolutely ripped through his hits, and Edgar himself sounded great.

And Burdon astounded me. 74 years old and still hitting all the notes in the Animals hits. He did a cover of “I Believe You’re Trying to Make A Fool of Me” by Ray Charles with Edgar on sax, and it was a revelation.

People used to mock the British Invasion bands for ripping off the blues, but it was clear that Brother Ray was a huge influence on Burdon. Such a reverent cover.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 28, 2015 • 10:03:54pm

re: #257 makeitstop

The wife and I went to see Edgar Winter and Eric Burdon tonight, as guests of a friend whose company services the sound rigs for most of the larger venues in the NYC area. Edgar had a small band of young dudes who absolutely ripped through his hits, and Edgar himself sounded great.

And Burdon astounded me. 74 years old and still hitting all the notes in the Animals hits. He did a cover of “I Believe You’re Trying to Make A Fool of Me” by Ray Charles with Edgar on sax, and it was a revelation.

People used to mock the British Invasion bands for ripping off the blues, but it was clear that Brother Ray was a huge influence on Burdon. Such a reverent cover.

I remember reading the liner notes on my copy of The Best of the Animals from 50 years ago—every trip to New York they’d clean out every record store in town of all the R&B 45s they could lay their hands on.

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No Depression Aug 28, 2015 • 10:04:23pm

re: #253 Great White Snark

The Disturbed cover of Sound Of Silence that was posted here was an eye opener. This is a favorite of mine, albeit from a band that remains obscure. [Embedded content]

I really enjoy this cover of “Across the Universe”:

Video

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BeachDem Aug 28, 2015 • 10:10:47pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Orwell meets Idiocracy.

A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species…The #1 movie in America was called “Ass.” And that’s all it was for 90 minutes. It won eight Oscars that year, including best screenplay.

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makeitstop Aug 28, 2015 • 10:11:27pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

Speaking of covers, you know who I think plays the best Johnny B. Goode? Jimi Hendrix.

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I always loved that cover. It was like Jimi turning Chuck ‘s riffs inside out.

You know who does the best cover of ‘Manic Depression?’ Jeff Beck.

Manic Depression - Seal and Jeff Beck

When he and Seal did the studio version, they booked the same room in Olympic Studios where Jimi recorded the original.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 10:19:28pm

I did something I never do here, I made a comment in a dead thread that’s mean-spirited. I broke my promise of not talking about a certain t’ing. I’m not proud of it. Thing is, even Dark_Falcon has never pissed me off more than [(hopefully-former)Lizard I won’t name]. (Dark_Falcon, you’ve made me mad, but not like this asshole.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 28, 2015 • 10:21:02pm

re: #262 teleskiguy

The anger isn’t healthy. Really, it’s not. It’s not going to change his mind and will just hurt you instead.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 10:24:52pm

Another reason why [Lizard who won’t be named] shouldn’t be welcome here. Hatred. Discord. Conflict. Caused by one fucking dude who hates women.

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William Lewis Aug 28, 2015 • 10:25:39pm

re: #262 teleskiguy

Dude, you really have to stop with the stalking. This is a classic example of the “two wrongs” proverb.

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Chan Kobun Aug 28, 2015 • 10:26:12pm

re: #260 BeachDem

That’s how it always starts. Then they talk about doing something and there’s a word for that - eugenics.

Idiocracy is shit.

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makeitstop Aug 28, 2015 • 10:28:58pm

re: #263 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The anger isn’t healthy. Really, it’s not. It’s not going to change his mind and will just hurt you instead.

True. Best to just walk away and spare yourself the anguish. He Who Shall Not Be Named seems like the type who just doesn’t care.

There are so many other things to think about. That guy shouldn’t be one of them.

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Chan Kobun Aug 28, 2015 • 10:29:24pm

re: #264 teleskiguy

And you’re making it better by continually aggressing against him? I think Gators are shit, too, and they demean my hobby for their pathetic beefs against the entirety of womanhood - but I don’t spend all my time getting up in their faces. I shut them off and move on.

Just had one reblog my Tumblr post linking to the Miiverse post I made earlier. I saw he was GG trash, blocked his ass, and that was it. Considered telling him never to reblog my shit again, but it wouldn’t do anything but make him feel like he’s got something to rile up the meatsticks with, and the block will see that he never gets to reblog my shit anymore anyhow.

Let it fucking go.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 10:45:36pm

re: #265 William Lewis

Dude, you really have to stop with the stalking. This is a classic example of the “two wrongs” proverb.

You do know why I’m adamant against this asshole? My sister feared for her fucking life because of fuckheads like [Lizard who’ll not be named].

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austin_blue Aug 28, 2015 • 10:52:40pm

re: #269 teleskiguy

You do know why I’m adamant against this asshole? My sister feared for her fucking life because of fuckheads like [Lizard who’ll not be named].

Yes, but this is not *your* monkey and not *your* circus.

People are giving you good advice, and I enjoy the shit out of your presence here.

Deep breaths and repeat the mantra: “There will always be assholes, there will always be trolls, and there will always be morons. This is the web.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 28, 2015 • 10:59:38pm

Oh god new pattern by my favorite cross stitch designer.

I already have too much to do.

I adore 3/4 of it and am less sold on the last 1/4.

But I’ll end up buying it anyway because hah, what self control (they’re so much harder to find when they go out of print….).

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 11:03:24pm

re: #270 austin_blue

I get the feeling that you really care about me austin_blue! I feel the friendship, thousands of miles away.

The internet, it’s a weird place.

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Eclectic Cyborg Aug 28, 2015 • 11:05:55pm

Well folks, I generally don’t toot my own horn much around here but I think this may be the greatest page I’ve ever written. I had planned to put it up tomorrow morning but I have somewhere to be early and so I have to do it now, but since it’s past midnight I will be posting it, as intended, on August 29. Thanks in advance for reading:

Katrina +10: Echoes of the Surge

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 11:07:17pm

Umphrey’s McGee: “Night Nurse” 08/20/15

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 28, 2015 • 11:09:49pm

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

Psst, teeny typo in the last paragraph - you’re missing a space after a comma, second sentence.

A very well done page, I recommend it for all Lizards.

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WhatEVs Aug 28, 2015 • 11:30:11pm

Fuck you @glennbeck http://t.co/TGErViqq0f

— Franklin O (@F_R_Odo) August 28, 2015

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William Lewis Aug 28, 2015 • 11:37:35pm

re: #269 teleskiguy

Yeah. I read it. You are still being an ass and being a stalker.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 11:37:44pm

re: #274 teleskiguy

This is the band totally phoning it in. Even when they phone it in it’s great. I say they’re phoning it in because it’s a one-key one note jam. If you’ve been a band for almost 20 years and have been playing together for that long, it’s very easy to make one note last for 10 minutes.

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austin_blue Aug 28, 2015 • 11:41:40pm

re: #272 teleskiguy

I get the feeling that you really care about me austin_blue! I feel the friendship, thousands of miles away.

The internet, it’s a weird place.

Hells, yes.

You need to get your ass down here, we’ll drink local craft beer, tell war stories (like how I snapped a fibula at A-Basin when I was fifteen), and hug it out. Oh, and breakfast tacos. Breakfast tacos here are killer bee.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 11:46:14pm

re: #279 austin_blue

Hells, yes.

You need to get your ass down here, we’ll drink local craft beer, tell war stories (like how I snapped a fibula at A-Basin when I was fifteen), and hug it out. Oh, and breakfast tacos. Breakfast tacos here are killer bee.

My favorite touring rock ‘n’ roll circus road show Umphrey’s McGee has played at Stubb’s BBQ on 4/20 (or so) for the last five years. They do it next year, hell, that’s a great excuse for me to spend a couple of days in Austin, TX. Both our minds would be blown. Two birds one stone!

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 11:49:17pm

The last time I hung out in Austin, TX. That was a weird, loud night.

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austin_blue Aug 28, 2015 • 11:51:31pm

re: #280 teleskiguy

My favorite touring rock ‘n’ roll circus road show Umphrey’s McGee has played at Stubb’s BBQ on 4/20 (or so) for the last five years. They do it next year, hell, that’s a great excuse for me to spend a couple of days in Austin, TX. Both our minds would be blown. Two birds one stone!

Stubbs is a good outdoor venue in April. August, meh, not so much.

Night all.

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teleskiguy Aug 28, 2015 • 11:56:19pm

re: #281 teleskiguy

MP3 Audio

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goddamnedfrank Aug 29, 2015 • 12:13:18am

FYI Taking property in that way would be a flagrant violation of the Geneva Convention. Pillaging is a war crime. @tommcintyre1947 @DwbBill

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) August 29, 2015

I really wish a journalist would do some fucking journalism and confront Trump with the fact that his great plan to pay for the Iraq war would turn us into a pariah criminal nation.

List of war crimes
War crimes include the following serious violations of international humanitarian law:
(i) Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions:
In the case of an international armed conflict, any of the following acts committed against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention:
• wilful killing;
• torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;
• wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health;
• extensive destruction or appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;
• compelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power;
• wilfully depriving a prisoner of war or other protected person of the rights of a fair and regular trial;
• unlawful deportation or transfer;
• unlawful confinement;
• taking of hostages.
Basis for the war crimes listed above
This list of grave breaches was included in the Geneva Conventions largely on the basis of crimes pursued after the Second World War by the International Military Tribunals at Nuremberg and at Tokyo and by national courts. The list is repeated in the Statutes of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia and of the International Criminal Court.[34] It is also reflected in the legislation of many States. [35] The understanding that such violations are war crimes is uncontroversial.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 29, 2015 • 12:16:23am

re: #284 goddamnedfrank

IF the USA were 2 take Iraq oil fields , Why should Iraq fuss ? We lost thousands of lives freeing them from Saddam Husain

So that would justify Josef Stalin keeping all the territory he liberated from Hitler, right?

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WhatEVs Aug 29, 2015 • 12:41:46am

re: #284 goddamnedfrank

I was out to dinner with an ex-boyfriend and his 16 year old son some years ago, and we were discussing Iraq. The boy said it was right to invade Iraq if only for their oil because “we need it”. I waited for his dad to slap him (ok, minimally correct him, impart the concept of right and wrong; something!) but not a peep from my ex. (Good call on the ex, but I digress.) I was appalled. I almost asked if it would be ok to hurt someone because you wanted their sneakers, but I just bit my lip all the way around.

This was before the GOP went completely off the rails and my ex was no wingnut (a Republican, yes; wingnut, no), not in the slightest. Yet, not a word from him to his morally challenged kid.

If a moderate Republican thought that was okie dokie, it will be completely lost on the current breed of the right.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 29, 2015 • 12:56:52am

re: #286 WhatEVs

I was out to dinner with an ex-boyfriend and his 16 year old son some years ago, and we were discussing Iraq. The boy said it was right to invade Iraq if only for their oil because “we need it”. I waited for his dad to slap him (ok, minimally correct him, impart the concept of right and wrong; something!) but not a peep from my ex. (Good call on the ex, but I digress.) I was appalled. I almost asked if it would be ok to hurt someone because you wanted their sneakers, but I just bit my lip all the way around.

This was before the GOP went completely off the rails and my ex was no wingnut (a Republican, yes; wingnut, no), not in the slightest. Yet, not a word from him to his morally challenged kid.

If a moderate Republican thought that was okie dokie, it will be completely lost on the current breed of the right.

That sums up the attitude of the GOP establishment towards the Tea Party: they did not challenge or distance themselves from the TP’s ridiculous, unfounded and extremist assertions for fear of alienating them, and in doing so, allowed the TP to totally hijack the party.

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WhatEVs Aug 29, 2015 • 1:31:02am

Well, why not?

Charlie Sheen for veep.

gossipcop.com

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 1:52:48am

re: #259 No Depression

Yay, Laibach!

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 2:00:28am

re: #284 goddamnedfrank

You lost thousands of lives and caused around 200000 Iraqi deaths by the more reliable estimates (that’s not counting all the wounded and all the property damage). All for nothing, based on lie.

The way I see it, the fair deal would be if the US was paying Iraq off for the next couple of centuries.

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Timothy Watson Aug 29, 2015 • 2:00:35am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So that would justify Josef Stalin keeping all the territory he liberated from Hitler, right?

Well…he did get to keep some of it, just ask Poland, Finland, Romania, and the Baltic states.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 2:12:54am

Taking out a dictator is moral in theory, but only if the easily predictable consequences don’t amount to a greater evil.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 29, 2015 • 2:16:23am

re: #291 Timothy Watson

Well…he did get to keep some of it, just ask Poland, Finland, Romania, and the Baltic states.

Of course he kept nearly everything he occupied except for parts of Austria.

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Bird in the Paw Aug 29, 2015 • 2:33:03am

re: #205 Kragar

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Before I read the blurb, I assumed it was awesome ‘cause a dinosaur was eating the area.

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Decatur Deb Aug 29, 2015 • 3:03:07am

re: #290 Nyet

You lost thousands of lives and caused around 200000 Iraqi deaths by the more reliable estimates (that’s not counting all the wounded and all the property damage). All for nothing, based on lie.

The way I see it, the fair deal would be if the US was paying Iraq off for the next couple of centuries.

And everyone with half a brain who had lived through the 60s could see it coming. That’s why it was important to be in Lafayette Park, even if it meant rubbing shoulders with ANSWER and MoveOn and the Kucinich Kids.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 29, 2015 • 3:35:20am

First time mom Anju gave birth to a girl on Tues! Pic: Keeper Ashley Ashcraft #CZBGBabyGorilla http://t.co/jR1CnLi7b4 pic.twitter.com/GicA2uqmed

— Cincinnati Zoo (@CincinnatiZoo) August 28, 2015

It’s the 50th gorilla born at the Cincinnati Zoo.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 3:37:10am

Liked this exchange at DKos:

Better late than never!!!

Somebody sent the memo to BlackLivesMatter activists that private prisons are helping bankroll Hillary’s campaign. Not only that, but two of her bundlers are private prison lobbyists.

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Already debunked (23+ / 0-)
This is old news. From Democratic Underground.

Cynicism is what passes for insight among the mediocre.

by Sky Net on Fri Aug 28, 2015 at 06:08:24 PM PDT

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* [new] That link doesn’t debunk the claim. (34+ / 0-)
It basically says candidates take cash from different organizations.

Lawyers and Lobbyists have dozens of clients. Every interest group that can raise cash has lobbyists and lawyers. That includes teachers, unions, Latino groups, the NAACP, LGBT organizations, environmentalists, physicians, hospitals, planned parenthood, NARAL and on and on. That’s how the system works.

Fact is, I’m ok with a candidate taking funding from teachers, unions, Latino groups, NAACP, LGBT organizations, environmentalists,planned parenthood, and NARAL.
Private prison lobbyists? Not so much. Funny that the writer would equate all those groups.

“The billionaires of America are on the warpath. They want more and more and more” ~ Bernie Sanders

by Calvino Partigiani on Fri Aug 28, 2015 at 06:15:38 PM PDT

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* [new] No, it doesn’t. You’re wrong. (53+ / 0-)
She took money from different INDIVIDUALS. She can’t, and didn’t take money from organizations.

And you utterly miss the point. The lobbyists who are identified as “lobbyists for the prison industry” are exactly the SAME lobbyists as the ones who work for Planned Parenthood, Pew Research Center, and more. They work for a company that includes Planned Parenthood and a private prison company as their clients.

So what does it mean? It means there is NO. FREAKIN’. WAY. you can claim, by anything other than six degrees of innuendo and guilt by association that she took money from the prison industry.

In other words, IT. IS. A. LIE.

Done with politics for the night? Have a nice glass of wine with Palate Press: The online wine magazine.

by dhonig on Fri Aug 28, 2015 at 06:26:10 PM PDT

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* [new] Falling on deaf ears (18+ / 0-)
The one thing that a subset of the Bernie supporters and the Right-Wing Corporate Media have in common is that anything they hear that is bad about Hillary must be true and anything good must be false or can be dismissed because it’s “about time” she came around. At some point, this subset of Bernie supporters (some of which I think are Republican plants, but I can’t prove it, nor would I even bother to try) will burn itself out, or the rest of us will tune them out.

The majority of Bernie supporters are smart enough to see through this type of diary and act like Bernie, which means not trashing Hillary (just like Hillary isn’t trashing Bernie). Let the Republicans go after each other, let’s us focus on the issues where, honestly, our candidates are much closer to each other than the right-most one is to the Republicans - even Jim Webb with all his flaws is closer to us than them.

Democrats *do* have a plan for Social Security - it’s called Social Security. — Ed Schultz
by FredFred on Fri Aug 28, 2015 at 07:15:10 PM PDT

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 3:40:00am

Americablog is pushing this nonsense.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 3:45:37am

re: #298 Nyet

Americablog is pushing this nonsense.

Firstlook too.

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Decatur Deb Aug 29, 2015 • 3:48:40am

There’s going to a lot of that BS for the next 14 months. Most of it comes out in the wash.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 3:50:51am

re: #300 Decatur Deb

These activists who tried to disrupt Clinton’s rally totally swallowed this bullshit though.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 3:54:03am

An unfortunate photo. Is it professional of the photographer to put it in the image bank?
(see below)

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 3:57:38am

Getty Image

View image | gettyimages.com

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Decatur Deb Aug 29, 2015 • 4:01:59am

don’t know Getty’s editorial process. Depending on his purpose, it might embarrass the photographer more than the subject.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 4:06:18am

I realize that respect is a subjective thing, so I will just say this: if you publicly idolize or approvingly quote a most wanted domestic terrorist, you won’t get any of mine.

.@HillaryClinton was asked to divest from priv prisons, invest in trans black women #BlackTransLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/P90DOQmJA0

— GetEQUAL (@GetEQUAL) August 27, 2015

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 29, 2015 • 4:14:26am

re: #305 Nyet

.HillaryClinton was asked to divest from priv prisons, invest in trans black women

I suppose the term is being used loosely to the point of incorrectly here: she is not investing in these prisons, just taking donations from them.

I suppose it would apply if it meant to divest herself of a political interest in people who run private prisons.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 4:21:35am

re: #305 Nyet

This also goes for the Free Mumia crowd, BTW.

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Decatur Deb Aug 29, 2015 • 4:32:42am

re: #305 Nyet

I realize that respect is a subjective thing, so I will just say this: if you publicly idolize or approvingly quote a most wanted domestic terrorist, you won’t get any of mine.

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Don’t find a link to Chesimard in those media.

(Now there’s someone who can’t like the normalization of relations with Cuba.)

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 4:35:58am

re: #308 Decatur Deb

Look at the photo.

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Decatur Deb Aug 29, 2015 • 4:41:27am

re: #309 Nyet

Look at the photo.

Had to flip back to the aliases to decode “Assata”. That’s pretty much ‘inside baseball’ for that community, I guess.

Perhaps we should set aside a political event where everybody gets to shout down everybody.

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Decatur Deb Aug 29, 2015 • 4:57:56am

Rushing the morning dogwalk to beat the rain. BBL

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 5:15:15am

re: #310 Decatur Deb

Had to flip back to the aliases to decode “Assata”. That’s pretty much ‘inside baseball’ for that community, I guess.

Perhaps we should set aside a political event where everybody gets to shout down everybody.

There’s a difference between calling for policing reform and siding with clearly guilty cop-killers. People doing the former are worthy of respect for doing so, those doing the latter cancel any respect gained from the former, because they are being assholes.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 5:17:45am

I don’t like the term “cop-killer”. Murdering a cop isn’t worse or better than murdering anyone.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 5:25:30am

re: #313 Nyet

I don’t like the term “cop-killer”. Murdering a cop isn’t worse or better than murdering anyone.

I don’t agree and neither does US law. Murdering a police officer, especially for the reasons Chesimard/Shakur and abu-Jamal did, is attacking the nation and the government directly and should be punished with great severity.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 5:28:09am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

I was not talking about legal stuff or severity of punishment at all.

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William Lewis Aug 29, 2015 • 5:35:24am

re: #307 Nyet

This also goes for the Free Mumia crowd, BTW.

While I have very little doubt as to his guilt, Mumia’s trial is best described as a Farce.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 5:38:05am

re: #316 William Lewis

While I have very little doubt as to his guilt, Mumia’s trial is best described as a Farce.

Why?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 5:40:20am

To round-up my two weeks of hell (since the cat died) —I was at the doc’s yesterday for a sinus infection. I now am on a super dose of amox/clav and feel like I’ve been irradiated —but not sick.

Let’s hope all is better for the month of September.

you?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 5:41:17am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree and neither does US law. Murdering a police officer, especially for the reasons Chesimard/Shakur and abu-Jamal did, is attacking the nation and the government directly and should be punished with great severity.

How does one defend oneself against a bad police officer?

There seem to be plenty to go around and citizens are dying.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 5:52:01am

re: #319 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

How does one defend oneself against a bad police officer?

There seem to be plenty to go around and citizens are dying.

Frankly, you don’t. You offer no resistance and pray that the hurt you suffer is kept to a minimum. Maybe a lawyer can do something for you later, but fighting with a cop is a sure loser, no matter how wrong the cop is. Because even if you could force him to back off, what then? He’ll call for back-up, and you can’t outrun a radio.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 5:59:14am

WHAT YEAR IS THIS??? Texas doctor's consent form for women seeking abortions via @BoingBoing http://t.co/vMIzzHSsIf @waronwomen

— ggt (@geegeetee) August 29, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:01:00am

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

Frankly, you don’t. You offer no resistance and pray that the hurt you suffer is kept to a minimum. Maybe a lawyer can do something for you later, but fighting with a cop is a sure loser, no matter how wrong the cop is. Because even if you could force him to back off, what then? He’ll call for back-up, and you can’t outrun a radio.

There has to be a better system.

Cops have proven they are not worthy of the authority they have. body cams might be an answer. Calling Time out and getting another officer on the scene to review the situation. Stop allowing cops to escalate the situation … .

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 6:01:04am

When you’re apprehended a few feet from the still warm body, wearing an empty holster, your own gun (registered to you) lying beside you, with 5 bullets fired, one of them in the corpse’s brain, and you can’t - for decades - offer any plausible story, it’s pretty much a slam dunk case (even before we begin delving into all the witness testimonies). The “Mumia trial was a farce” stems from the same sources that were pushing the “Mumia is innocent” narrative despite the obvious truth.

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 6:03:25am

re: #295 Decatur Deb

And everyone with half a brain who had lived through the 60s could see it coming. That’s why it was important to be in Lafayette Park, even if it meant rubbing shoulders with ANSWER and MoveOn and the Kucinich Kids.

You know who lived through the 60s in a very unique way up close to a bad war and its ugly outcomes and said it taught him a lot he later forgot and should have known better?

John McCain.

And speaking of McCain…the bad crazy that is Trump has had one decent outcome. I haven’t seen much of McCain lately. He is being out crazied at this time.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 6:07:39am

re: #322 I Stand With Planned ParenthoodTimeon

There has to be a better system.

Cops have proven they are not worthy of the authority they have. body cams might be an answer. Calling Time out and getting another officer on the scene to review the situation. Stop allowing cops to escalate the situation … .

Time out? You think some drug dealer is going to wait for another cop to show up so they can find the crack he was selling? No, he’s gonna take off running. Ideas like that would cripple policing which is not acceptable. Because do remember: It’s the dealers and the gang members who kill the vast majority of poor black people who die violently. You give those people a huge increase in latitude and the people who will suffer are the very people the proposed policy change claimed it would protect.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:10:21am

How small-business growth and entrepreneurship have powered New Orleans

I’ve been in NOLA twice in the last year. I don’t think it has recovered well at all.

Compared to my trip of over 20 years ago, it was much degraded. Sidewalks all cracked and uneven —buildings empty and falling apart —all in the quarter. The panhandlers outside the hotels were probably more numerous than any city I’ve been in in years (even Philadelphia).

As the business tourist, I would not go back, nor recommend it to anyone.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:11:36am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

Timeon

Time out? You think some drug dealer is going to wait for another cop to show up so they can find the crack he was selling? No, he’s gonna take off running. Ideas like that would cripple policing which is not acceptable. Because do remember: It’s the dealers and the gang members who kill the vast majority of poor black people who die violently. You give those people a huge increase in latitude and the people who will suffer are the very people the proposed policy change claimed it would protect.

Then what —cameras everywhere?

There seem to be a lot of very minor criminals (turn signal violations —small amounts of marijuana) that are being treated like terrorists. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 6:19:02am

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

Frankly, you don’t. You offer no resistance and pray that the hurt you suffer is kept to a minimum. Maybe a lawyer can do something for you later, but fighting with a cop is a sure loser, no matter how wrong the cop is. Because even if you could force him to back off, what then? He’ll call for back-up, and you can’t outrun a radio.

This is a very chilling post Dark. It is almost like you are at the point you excuse heavy handed police state because that is just how it is.

You know, if you put this kind of thinking together with the crap Trump is pushing we are getting to the point police will be rounding up people to export outta America and well, if they happen to be a little wrong and you resist and it all goes bad…tough luck.

Add in the militia types to it all, and you get a (militarized) police state pushed by a demagogue leader (Trump and some other GOPers) an angry society and a citizen army (brown shirts/militia) and America turns to shit and becomes trouble for all of us and the rest of the world.

We used to have a basic law…innocent until proven guilty at all costs. Your saying if a cop gets to doing a little judgement about guilt and pounds on you it’s acceptable and you brought it upon yourself. His word against yours and with your attitude it doesn’t matter if his word is complete BS.

That isn’t America.Sadly it is becoming America and many like you seem to be fine with it all.

Damn that.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:23:39am

Raping a woman in public because of possible drug possession? Cops are not medical personnel. Unless they have probably cause to think a person has a bomb hidden in a bodily cavity — cavity searches without medical personal and a warrant are unacceptable.
Texas cops smell weed in black woman’s car so they stick hand up her vagina in public

Cops have the right to physically harm someone for walking? This woman did get a large pay-out, but the harm was done.
Police Brutality: California Highway Patrol Officer Beats Black Woman Senseless On Side Of Freeway

Cop Punches 17-Year-Old Girl in Head at Jaywalking Stop

punching someone in the head for jaywalking? even mouthing off doesn’t warrant possible brain injury.

We are supposed to trust law enforcement, but how can we? We are at their mercy and with our form of government THAT IS WRONG. Cops cannot violate a persons human rights just to impose their authority.

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A Mom Anon Aug 29, 2015 • 6:29:29am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

The thing is Dark, the incidents of police brutality we’re seeing as of late aren’t related to crack dealers in alleyways. Police used to be taught techniques for DE-escalating violence, current training isn’t focusing on that or what used to be called Community Policing. Now we’re looking at forces who operate like military units and are behaving like the public they are supposed to protect and serve are insurgents and terrorists instead of their fellow citizens. My grandpa was a cop, he would have lost his shit if he saw what was happening today.

Throw in a privatized and for profit prison/jail system and it’s a lot worse than it should be in a country that calls itself Land of the Free.

Also, just as an aside, I know someone who just spent two weeks in a county jail. Inside that jail no decent food is served. No hot food, only two meals a day. Barely 1000 calories. Homeless people came in there and ate out of the trash IN THE LUNCHROOM. The food offered for sale is expensive and beyond the means of many in there. It’s also delivered by an outside company and can take up to a week to get there. Now this is a county jail remember, where most of the charges are for things like DUI, bar fights, traffic stops, outstanding warrants for failure to appear, probation violations, etc. Not hardened gang members. I agree that jail shouldn’t be a luxury, but you can’t even visit a family member there and actually see them. You have to PAY to see them at a video kiosk in the lobby. In the two weeks this person was in jail, for a first time DUI, his family had to fork out 300 dollars just in extra food and phone calls. The jail did not administer his diabetes meds properly, and kept him in solitary for the first week because they thought his medical issues meant he had an infectious disease. How is this helpful on any level? Not to mention that this person lost their job, has 14K in fines and fees and has to pay not only attorney’s fees but also pay 160 dollars for every probation visit to a company called Sentinel (look them up, what shit that is). Again, how does any of this make anyone safer? It’s happening all over the country and it needs to stop.

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 6:30:48am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

Timeon

Time out? You think some drug dealer is going to wait for another cop to show up so they can find the crack he was selling? No, he’s gonna take off running. Ideas like that would cripple policing which is not acceptable. Because do remember: It’s the dealers and the gang members who kill the vast majority of poor black people who die violently. You give those people a huge increase in latitude and the people who will suffer are the very people the proposed policy change claimed it would protect.

And if we changed some of the damn thinking on drug laws in this country we could take gangs and street level drug dealing out of the picture.

Tell me Dark, what is the difference between a gin joint run by a gang in Chicago in 1923 and a crack house in Chicago run in 1993? Other than many times you had a rich society circumnavigating the laws (wink wink) in the gin joint and a people that didn’t have the money and the political connections in the crack house.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:35:33am

This, I think, is one of the best few minutes I’ve ever watched on LGF. Thank you to the Lizard who originally turned me on to it.
Commander Adama on police state

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:39:03am

GOP mega-donor who ridiculed Hillary Clinton’s marriage had an Ashley Madison account

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:41:23am

.@Maxeightyeight @JoMaHoose @ImWatchingToo @dremmelqueen @Greeenguy111 @mickivoss @yeswecanjane @Mista_Craw4ed pic.twitter.com/5GG6aFqGMi"

— Denise (@Ireland0828) August 28, 2015

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A Mom Anon Aug 29, 2015 • 6:42:12am

re: #333 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Because of course he did. I think it’s fairly safe to say at this point that anyone who claims to be holier than thou and looks down on or makes fun of someone else’s gender, sexuality, marriage issues or what ever most likely has a big old pile of skeletons in their own closet.

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sagehen Aug 29, 2015 • 6:42:32am

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

There’s a difference between calling for policing reform and siding with clearly guilty cop-killers. People doing the former are worthy of respect for doing so, those doing the latter cancel any respect gained from the former, because they are being assholes.

Everybody who’s ever convicted of a capital crime, the prosecutor and jury are deeply, sincerely certain that’s who did it. And 2% of the time, it turns out later they were wrong. Whoops. So sorry, our bad.

That’s the root of my opposition to the death penalty.

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PhillyPretzel Aug 29, 2015 • 6:43:45am

re: #332 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Here is a written and older version of what Commander Adama expressed. A quote from Sun Tzu’s “Art of War.”

From Sun Tzu’s Art of War: There are three ways in which a sovereign can bring misfortune upon his army: By commanding the army to advance or to retreat, being ignorant of the fact that it cannot obey. This is called hobbling the army. By attempting to govern an army in the same way he administers a kingdom, being ignorant of the conditions that obtain in an army. This causes restlessness in the soldiers’ minds. Humanity and justice are the principles on which to govern a state, but not an army; opportunism and flexibility, on the other hand, are military rather than civic virtues.

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GlutenFreeJesus Aug 29, 2015 • 6:45:16am

re: #284 goddamnedfrank

@tommcintyre1947 @DwbBill fool. we wrongfully invaded Iraq for non existent WMD and created ISIS. Iraq wishes they still had Saddam.

— efuseakay (@efuseakay) August 29, 2015

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Mattand Aug 29, 2015 • 6:45:52am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

re: #328 ObserverArt

Observer makes a good point here: we’re not talking about drug dealers. We’re talking about black people who the cops are beating within an inch of their lives, or straight up murdering them, for infractions that a white person would be almost slapped on the wrist for.

I mean, a white guy murders two PA state troopers is arrested with bruises.

A black woman is suspected of carrying drugs and is finger raped by police in public.

That’s a bit of a problem.

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b.d. Aug 29, 2015 • 6:50:37am

re: #338 GlutenFreeJesus

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I have a question about the USA taking Iraqi oil fields please.

What would the USA do with the oil fields?

The US government is not in the oil business. Would the USA then just give the oil fields to a US company free of charge? Would the US government demand that the oil companies provide cheap gas to Americans?

I always hear the cheer about taking their fields but never on what that means.

If we are going to go to war for ExxonMobil then lets just come out and say it.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:51:12am

TRUE: More Americans killed by guns since 1968 than in all U.S. wars, columnist Nicholas Kristof writes. http://t.co/GE4glseRYa

— Sarah Clements (@sfclem) August 29, 2015

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sagehen Aug 29, 2015 • 6:52:05am

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

Frankly, you don’t. You offer no resistance and pray that the hurt you suffer is kept to a minimum. Maybe a lawyer can do something for you later, but fighting with a cop is a sure loser, no matter how wrong the cop is. Because even if you could force him to back off, what then? He’ll call for back-up, and you can’t outrun a radio.

en.wikipedia.org
Larry Davis shot six police officers. His defense was “I thought they were the crooked-cop hit squad coming to murder me. I protected myself.”

He was acquitted. Conservatives were naturally outraged; but a few years later, in a scandal that came to be known as “Dirty Thirty”, it turns out Larry might have been right. There actually was a crooked-cop hit squad (drug dealers hired them to eliminate the competition).

(Years later, Larry died in jail, after being convicted of a separate, unrelated murder. Which that one was he was guilty of.)

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 6:55:18am

re: #340 b.d.

I have a question about the USA taking Iraqi oil fields please.

What would the USA do with the oil fields?

The US government is not in the oil business. Would the USA then just give the oil fields to a US company free of charge? Would the US government demand that the oil companies provide cheap gas to Americans?

I always hear the cheer about taking their fields but never on what that means.

If we are going to go to war for ExxonMobil then lets just come out and say it.

That would be the eventual outcome. But for many Americans taking the Iraqi oil fields would just be a “fuck yeah…that’ll show them whats what and who is who.”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:55:40am

re: #340 b.d.

I have a question about the USA taking Iraqi oil fields please.

What would the USA do with the oil fields?

The US government is not in the oil business. Would the USA then just give the oil fields to a US company free of charge? Would the US government demand that the oil companies provide cheap gas to Americans?

I always hear the cheer about taking their fields but never on what that means.

If we are going to go to war for ExxonMobil then lets just come out and say it.

QFT —

In truth, we went to war for Texas.

Americans would never stand for the Government nationalizing oil production/refining/sales. The rallying cry would be Private Enterprise!!

We went to war because Saddam tried to assassinate Bush 1. Oil companies/Mercenaries provided the financial incentive and terrorism provided the excuse. Saddam did a lot to provide excuses as well. He deserved what he got, I’m not sure the rest of us did.

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A Mom Anon Aug 29, 2015 • 6:56:27am

re: #339 Mattand

I believe too that this behavior is to some degree being incentivized by the privatization of the system. It’s a matter now of keeping jails full (which is in many contracts, if a certain percentage of cells are not occupied there are financial penalties to the jurisdictions in question) no matter how it’s done. And the poor and minorities are the perfect targets because they have no power, no money, no influence. So cops are going above and beyond normal policing to do that, as well as being allowed to be weaponized bullies.

And here’s the thing people forget when we talk of bullying: It’s not healthy for ANY bully to be allowed to continue (see Zimmerman, George as a prime and very public example) to do what they do unchecked. The bully will get sicker and their behavior will escalate. Cops and members of the Military are not Super Human. They are just as flawed as the rest of us and putting them on pedestals is a very dangerous thing. They must be held to a higher level of accountability in order to check criminal behavior. This is not happening to the degree it needs to be in EVERY community. Hence the problem.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 6:57:16am

That the Iraq war was “a war for oil” was always a misguided leftist slogan without much factual support.

Now Trump wants to make it true.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 6:58:04am

re: #346 Nyet

That the Iraq war was “the war for oil” was always a misguided leftist slogan without much factual support.

Now Trump wants to make it true.

It was a war for vengeance.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:00:30am

re: #347 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It was a war based on discredited political ideologies/theories.

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A Mom Anon Aug 29, 2015 • 7:01:12am

Alrighty lizards, I have to go give the dog yet another medicated bath to help with her mysterious skin ailment….be excellent to one another. BBL.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:02:13am

re: #349 A Mom Anon

Alrighty lizards, I have to go give the dog yet another medicated bath to help with her mysterious skin ailment….be excellent to one another. BBL.

doncha love it.

been thru that cycle a few times.

ear scratches to your pooch!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:03:32am

re: #348 Nyet

It was a war based on discredited political ideologies/theories.

Americans were pissed — even many who would have been against war for any reason before 9/11. Those orchestrating the Iraq debacle used this anger.

added: God was misused as well. For many it was a religious war. Bringing on the Rapture and all.

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 7:05:45am

re: #346 Nyet

That the Iraq war was “the war for oil” was always a misguided leftist slogan without much factual support.

Now Trump wants to make it true.

What kind of factual support would you need to change your mind on that comment?

I’m not saying you are wrong, but it is not like there were going to be clear policy guidelines that spelled out any control of oil was a mission of the war.

I bet there was some rubbing of hands by some world oil companies there would be some benefit to all of them by the US eliminating Saddam and gaining some control over the new Americanized Democratic Government that would “take” control of the oil.

To say it was just a leftist slogan is thin.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:06:58am

re: #351 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Those were the excuses, but not the motives. Domino theory and all that.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:07:41am

re: #352 ObserverArt

What kind of factual support would you need to change your mind on that comment?

Any, as long as it is factual.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016 Aug 29, 2015 • 7:15:30am

Oil is definitely a component but it’s not the reason or the cause.

Might as well say Republicans are Assholes. That is factually provable.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:16:45am

re: #355 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Oil is definitely a component but it’s not the reason or the cause.

Might as well say Republicans are Assholes. That is factually provable.

Hear, hear. And the Dems were enablers.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 29, 2015 • 7:19:34am

re: #356 Nyet

Hear, hear. And the Dems were enablers.

I’d say that the media was the enabler. The Democrats, as usual, went along because they were afraid that the Republicans would say mean things about them if they didn’t.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:21:39am

Oil was an important component (for various reasons, not because “let’s rob Iraq blind”), but it wasn’t an end by itself.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016 Aug 29, 2015 • 7:23:05am

I signed off on the bullshit. Never again.

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 7:23:08am

re: #354 Nyet

Any, as long as it is factual.

Have you ever come across this PDF about the role oil played in the war prepared by a guy at the Rubin Center for Research in International Affairs in Israel? It was put together in 2005.

Basically saying the Bush administration never came right out and said oil was part of the whole taking Saddam out thinking, but they did know there would be big oil benefits as it would free up a large part of the market that was stymied by the politics between Saddam and the rest of the world, especially the western nations. Basically it was just plain good for the oil business to have Saddam gone.

OIL AND THE IRAQ WAR: HOW THE UNITED STATES COULD HAVE EXPECTED TO BENEFIT, AND MIGHT STILL
By John S. Duffield*

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 7:24:36am

re: #356 Nyet

Hear, hear. And the Dems were enablers.

Yes, but not wittingly. Many were chickens politically.

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Mattand Aug 29, 2015 • 7:26:12am

re: #345 A Mom Anon

And here’s the thing people forget when we talk of bullying: It’s not healthy for ANY bully to be allowed to continue (see Zimmerman, George as a prime and very public example) to do what they do unchecked. The bully will get sicker and their behavior will escalate. Cops and members of the Military are not Super Human. They are just as flawed as the rest of us and putting them on pedestals is a very dangerous thing. They must be held to a higher level of accountability in order to check criminal behavior. This is not happening to the degree it needs to be in EVERY community. Hence the problem.

So much this.

This is why I get so uncomfortable with the whole “If you don’t stop and thank every cop/soldier for the service, you’re a horrible American” mindset.

They’re tough jobs. I couldn’t do them for a variety of reasons. I admire people who go into these fields. But this whole blind worship stuff? I find it creepy. Part of the problem is that the few law enforcement types I know have serious issues with racism and control.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:27:11am

re: #353 Nyet

Those were the excuses, but not the motives. Domino theory and all that.

NO, I think it was the other way around. Vengeance was the reason, the rest were excuses.

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Mattand Aug 29, 2015 • 7:27:56am

re: #352 ObserverArt

IMO, I seriously doubt would have gone into Kuwait in 1991 if the country wasn’t lousy with oil fields.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:29:22am

re: #364 Mattand

IMO, I seriously doubt would have gone into Kuwait in 1991 if the country wasn’t lousy with oil fields.

After Vietnam, no one wanted to go to war unless we had an “interest” in the country. Ideological reasons were not enough.

Well, Oil counts as an interest … .

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:29:34am

re: #360 ObserverArt

Oil is mentioned in the PNAC documents prior to the war (which is relevant, since a dozen or so PNAC people were in the Bush admin), but again, that oil was a component in the larger scheme doesn’t mean that the war was about oil. Maximum that the war was also about oil, which is a different statement, because it could have happened without oil too.

The war seems to have been about the US’ place in the world, about the reverse domino effect, making those states into “democracies” by heavy-handed means.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:31:06am

re: #366 Nyet

Oil is mentioned in the PNAC documents prior to the war (which is relevant, since a dozen or so PNAC people were in the Bush admin), but again, that oil was a component in the larger scheme doesn’t mean that the war was about oil. Maximum that the war was also about oil, which is a different statement, because it could have happened without oil too.

The war seems to have been about the US’ place in the world, about the reverse domino effect, making those states into “democracies” by heavy-handed means.

Yeah, turn them into people like us —democratic and christian —then they will be allies and won’t bomb us.

Nice idea — arrogant and xenophobic.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:34:45am

It’s like, to use an inflammatory analogy ;), the Nazis were obviously counting how much loot they would have gained from attacking the Soviet Union, and it was a big factor, but the war was about Lebensraum (and “Judeo-Bolshevism”) rather than robbing the Soviets (although that was a welcome bonus).

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Romantic Heretic Aug 29, 2015 • 7:35:11am

re: #346 Nyet

I think it was quite true, but a secondary but almost tertiary reason for the Iraq War.

The primary reason was to establish a new Pax Americana. It was meant to be a message to the world and that message was, “America goes where it wants, when it wants and does what it wants to those it wants to do things to. You may hate as long as you also fear.”

How a country with about 4% of the world’s population and 20% of its economy was supposed to do that was not something the vicious romantics of the second Bush administration considered.

They did want the oil though. They regarded that as a nice plus but it was not a primary motive.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016 Aug 29, 2015 • 7:35:18am

Here. Have some Freedom. You’re welcome. You could repay us by giving us a decent rate on your dinosaur juice.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:36:23am

re: #369 Romantic Heretic

Agreed 100%.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016 Aug 29, 2015 • 7:37:10am

No Blood For ~~Oil~~ Dinosaur Sauce.

Now that’s a cause I can support.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:38:06am

To reduce the Iraq war to oil is to underestimate the dangerous role that the ideological component was playing.

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 7:39:09am

re: #366 Nyet

Oil is mentioned in the PNAC documents prior to the war (which is relevant, since a dozen or so PNAC people were in the Bush admin), but again, that oil was a component in the larger scheme doesn’t mean that the war was about oil. Maximum that the war was also about oil, which is a different statement, because it could have happened without oil too.

The war seems to have been about the US’ place in the world, about the reverse domino effect, making those states into “democracies” by heavy-handed means.

True. But then “they” (Bushies) couldn’t come out and say that it was about oil either. You are admitting there would be oil benefits and to some degree that does lend itself to saying the war was about oil.

Any slogan is going to be based on an emotional feeling. Isn’t that the nature of a slogan? And they are often simplistic…cause you can’t print that whole PDF I linked on a t-shirt!

If say a leftist said instead of the war being about oil and it was about “America Fuck Yeah!” it would still be about oil because America’s whole economy is tied to oil/energy. They cannot be separated. You just mention the Middle East to many and they think oil.

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 7:40:53am

Mornin’ everyone. Three weeks into my new job and I’ve gained five lbs from not going to the gym and not being able to spend an hour and a half at the beach with my dogs every day…but payday’s coming soon, so that will be a nice change.

I haven’t been an hourly contractor in over a decade…it’s weird, having a time sheet. And I do look at the work day differently. That said, I did take a lunch hour yesterday and go to the gym…felt good to sweat.

In other employment news, some of the slow moving companies are finally responding. I had a call with AWS for a management role last week…they’re taking a pass unfortunately, but damn I would have made bank working for Bezos. And I did a video interview with a pharmaceutical company…five video questions and I gave recorded responses to each…that was kind of different. Anyhoo, they’re going to follow up with me in another week or so, so maybe I won’t have to keep this contracting gig too long, even though the money’s pretty good (still about $20/hr less than I used to make salaried) and it pays the mortgage.

So if I’ve seemed a bit scarce around here it’s because I’m busy in a good way, and not rotting in a cell.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 7:41:03am

re: #374 ObserverArt

You are admitting there would be oil benefits and to some degree that does lend itself to saying the war was about oil.

The problem is that would also be saying that there wouldn’t have been the war if not for the oil, and that seems quite improbable.

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 7:43:09am

re: #375 darthstar

So if I’ve seemed a bit scarce around here it’s because I’m busy in a good way, and not rotting in a cell.

I should note that I’ve never actually been arrested…then again, I’ve never really broken the law if you don’t count smoking dope as a teenager and adult…though I hardly do that anymore and it’s damn near legal now. I just wanted to say ‘rotting in a cell’ for some reason.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:43:33am

A commissioner asked Ms. Mitchell how she predicted futures.
“It was just going by what they would give you,” she said. “It’s all a scam. It’s by their demeanor. I want to write a book about how Gypsies scam people out of their money.”

“You don’t think there’s any legitimate psychics out there?” she was asked.

“If they are taking your money,” she said, “they are not for real.”

What if they claim to be a person of g-d?

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Decatur Deb Aug 29, 2015 • 7:45:16am

re: #378 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

What if they claim to be a person of g-d?

If they are making more than minimum wage, they are not for real.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016 Aug 29, 2015 • 7:45:24am

re: #373 Nyet

To reduce the Iraq war to oil is to underestimate the dangerous role that the ideological component was playing.

Well said. The concept of ‘statecraft’ comes to mind.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 7:46:55am

re: #338 GlutenFreeJesus

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@efuseakay @tommcintyre1947 @DwbBill You are delusional if you think anyone but Sunni revaunchists wishes they had that sadistic tyrant back
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) August 29, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:47:10am

zooborns.com

Jaguar Birth Announced at Ellen Trout Zoo

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 7:47:41am

Barcodes for anchor babies.

Christie says, if elected, he'll tap FedEx's Fred Smith for a 3-month gig to teach how to track immigrants w same efficiency as packages.

— Phil Elliott (@Philip_Elliott) August 29, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:48:57am

re: #372 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

No Blood For ~~Oil~~ Dinosaur Sauce.

Now that’s a cause I can support.

amazon.com

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 7:49:02am

re: #376 Nyet

The problem is that would also be saying that there wouldn’t have been the war if not for the oil, and that seems quite improbable.

I don’t know. Is it really? If Iraq wasn’t in the middle of the large oil fields would we have handled the whole thing the same?

Sure we might have worked to kick Saddam out, but in the same manner by invading the country, or would we have done it the old fashion way and just financed the over throw and installed a nifty puppet…like we always did.

You know, it is a fascinating concept you bring up. I never thought in the reverse of what we always think because the oil is there as it had always been. If there had been no oil I cannot help but think everything would have been different.

Don’t you too?

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 29, 2015 • 7:50:01am

re: #365 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

After Vietnam, no one wanted to go to war unless we had an “interest” in the country. Ideological reasons were not enough.

Well, Oil counts as an interest … .

FWIW, those of us doing the fighting usually at some point understood that we could never win the Vietnam war in the WWII sense of winning. Knowing that at the time, I was convinced that the nation wouldn’t rest until it kicked the crap out of some small nation just to salve the national ego.

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 7:51:06am

re: #384 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Friend of mine has a zombie family on the car with the “We ate your stick family” caption.

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 7:52:57am

'Anchor Baby' pic.twitter.com/IaJdeOWHb7

— TheObamaDiary.com (@TheObamaDiary) August 29, 2015

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:53:49am

re: #387 darthstar

Friend of mine has a zombie family on the car with the “We ate your stick family” caption.

My favorite is the picture of the family with the Mom in a straight jacket.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 7:54:21am

re: #385 ObserverArt

If Iraq did not have large oil reserves, then it would never have been able to build up the army that let it attack Iran and later invade Kuwait. To give one example. It was oil money that allowed Saddam Hussein to buy tanks from China, armored cars and Multiple Rocket Launchers (MRLs) from Brazil, and G5 howitzers from South Africa.

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 7:54:50am

Hahaha! #Caturday pic.twitter.com/6SFibNT7IH

— ?Lili Garcia? (@DollfaceFatale) August 29, 2015

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 7:55:44am

re: #390 Dark_Falcon

If Iraq did not have large oil reserves, then it would never have been able to build up the army that let it attack Iran and later invade Kuwait. To give one example. It was oil money that allowed Saddam Hussein to buy tanks from China, armored cars and Multiple Rocket Launchers (MRLs) from Brazil, and G5 howitzers from South Africa.

…and chemical weapons from Donald Rumsfeld.

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BeenHereAwhile Aug 29, 2015 • 7:56:14am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

If they are making more than minimum wage, they are not for real.

“Any man who calls himself a religious leader and owns more than one suit, is a hustler as long as there is someone in the world who has no suit at all.”

Lenny Bruce

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 29, 2015 • 7:57:29am

re: #390 Dark_Falcon

If Iraq did not have large oil reserves, then it would never have been able to build up the army that let it attack Iran and later invade Kuwait. To give one example. It was oil money that allowed Saddam Hussein to buy tanks from China, armored cars and Multiple Rocket Launchers (MRLs) from Brazil, and G5 howitzers from South Africa.

Basically, without oil, Saddam would not have been able to come to power or at least stay there for so long. Same applied to Chavez, Qaddaffi and currently applies to the House of Saud, as well as the Kuwaitis and other Gulf emirates..

Our oil addiction finances dictatorships.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:58:05am

re: #394 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Bawsically, without oil, Saddam would not have been able to come to power. Same applied to Chavez, Qaddaffi and applies to the House of Saud.

Our oil addiction finances dictatorships.

all the way back to the Treaty of Versailles.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 7:59:08am

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ObserverArt Aug 29, 2015 • 7:59:15am

re: #386 Higgs Boson’s Mate

FWIW, those of us doing the fighting usually at some point understood that we could never win the Vietnam war in the WWII sense of winning. Knowing that at the time, I was convinced that the nation wouldn’t rest until it kicked the crap out of some small nation just to salve the national ego.

Grenada just wasn’t satisfying enough!

We needed a bit more to play with for satisfaction. Saddam going into Kuwait was a nice topping cherry. Also a nice way for us to display our toys for the rest of the world and to use up some old stock.

Too bad Saddam just didn’t lay low. He kept rattling the cage with threats and hints of contracts on daddy Bush and that is where the vengeance came in…with a side of oil.

And it is time to get rolling with the day…going to lurk mode.

A nice discussion Sergey and others. I am now going to be haunted thinking about what world events over the last half-century would have been completely different if there was no oil in the Middle East? Mind blown!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Aug 29, 2015 • 8:01:25am

re: #397 ObserverArt

A nice discussion Sergey and others. I am now going to be haunted thinking about what world events over the last half-century would have been completely different if ~~there was no~~ we had not grown so dependent on oil in the Middle East? Mind blown!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 8:03:59am

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 8:06:59am

re: #397 ObserverArt

Grenada just wasn’t satisfying enough!

We needed a bit more to play with for satisfaction. Saddam going into Kuwait was a nice topping cherry. Also a nice way for us to display our toys for the rest of the world and to use up some old stock.

Too bad Saddam just didn’t lay low. He kept rattling the cage with threats and hints of contracts on daddy Bush and that is where the vengeance came in…with a side of oil.

And it is time to get rolling with the day…going to lurk mode.

A nice discussion Sergey and others. I am now going to be haunted thinking about what world events over the last half-century would have been completely different if there was no oil in the Middle East? Mind blown!

Saddam couldn’t lie low, since not taking a shot at Bush the Elder and shaking his fist at the Bush family in general might have been taken as a sign of weakness. Same as with chem weapons: Saddam Hussein could have come clean to Hans Blix and proved he no longer had them. But that would have been Saddam folding when Bush the Younger called his bluff, which would have invited a coup attempt (which if even partially successful would have provided the US and UK with a solid pretext for intervention as long as the coup leader was likely to be less brutal than the Butcher of Baghdad).

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 8:07:26am

re: #397 ObserverArt

A nice discussion Sergey and others. I am now going to be haunted thinking about what world events over the last half-century would have been completely different if there was no oil in the Middle East? Mind blown!

Look at the bright side. If we get addicted to Solar Republicans will still want to invade the Middle East because imagine how many solar panels you could fit in the desert!

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 8:08:30am

Florida Man Challenges Tow Truck to Tug of War, Loses http://t.co/SLVNjDnwZi pic.twitter.com/NIp2FL1hxD (via @Jalopnik)

— Florida Man (@_FloridaMan) August 29, 2015

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darthstar Aug 29, 2015 • 8:11:16am

Christie’s FedEx comment is getting noticed…

@Lis_Smith @owillis Look at it this way...at least Christie supports having insurance for immigrants.

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 29, 2015

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 8:13:46am

Time for some comedy relief:

Palin: Schilling suspension shows ESPN “buys into ISIS propaganda”

Sarah Palin brands Univision anchor Jorge Ramos a ‘dangerous activist’ during Republican love-in interview with Trump

Palin praised Trump for ‘schooling’ Jorge Ramos during press conference
Ramos was ejected after shouting immigration questions at Trump
Former Alaska governor fawned over Trump, praising him for his ‘strength’

A remora has latched onto the White Whale that is Trump. And he can keep her.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 8:16:30am

re: #403 darthstar

Christie’s FedEx comment is getting noticed…

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Any immigration deal that eventually emerges is going to need a effective method to track people here on work permits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 29, 2015 • 8:22:51am

Not very chirpy, are we? pic.twitter.com/WKzYaB9cRo

— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) August 29, 2015

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Kid A Aug 29, 2015 • 8:23:11am

Palin interviewing Trump if you want a good laugh this morning.
m.motherjones.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 29, 2015 • 8:24:04am

Three weeks ago I had eleven different types of beer in my porch which technically made my porch a beer festival.

— Tom Cox (@cox_tom) August 29, 2015

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Higgs Boson's Mate Aug 29, 2015 • 8:24:32am

re: #404 Dark_Falcon

A remora has latched onto the White Whale that is Trump. And he can keep her.

Nicely put. If she becomes too much of a distraction Trump can always send her and her family on a paid junket to investigate a possible Islamist takeover of Tahiti.

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blueraven Aug 29, 2015 • 8:27:19am

re: #405 Dark_Falcon

Any immigration deal that eventually emerges is going to need a effective method to track people here on work permits.

What would you suggest? Chips?

Don’t you find Christie’s comments offensive in the least?

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makeitstop Aug 29, 2015 • 8:45:59am

re: #410 blueraven

What would you suggest? Chips?

Don’t you find Christie’s comments offensive in the least?

I’d bet that most of the people who have been warning against the implanting of RFID chips as being ‘of the Anti-Christ’ for the past few years would actually applaud it - as long as it was being done to those people.

As someone here said the other day - the urge to humiliate The Other overrides all those ‘principled’ stances wingnuts have taken over the years. Government overreach, higher taxes, police state tactics. Any and all are acceptable in the name of sticking it to ‘illegals.’

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Aug 29, 2015 • 8:48:02am

Want to reduce illegal immigration? End the drug war. http://t.co/1XqHTzhuQP pic.twitter.com/Ut1TYgluJa

— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) August 29, 2015

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 29, 2015 • 9:04:04am

From Kevin Drum’s latest bog post about a SS couple’s using Kennedy’s statement in the SSM rulings in their wedding vows:

No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were.

Now if only those who are refusing to provide licenses over their so-called ‘religious beliefs’ recognize that they are being required to perform a state (Cesar) function, as opposed to a religious (God) function, then this whole kerfluffle wouldn’t be an issue.

It’s high-time all preferential treatment by the government in the form of tax abatements based on religion goes away, given how it’s being used to abuse the rights of other US citizens.

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allegro Aug 29, 2015 • 9:06:18am

I’m a murderer. I just took out a nest of wasps that were determined to make a home right next to my front door. I triedto convince them that this was a terrible place to squat by destroying their nest in progress 5 times with the jet spray hose nozzle in the past 2 days. The little bastards would not be deterred. That got them dead. I do not mourn. I do got the creepy crawlies big though. Eeek, wasps freak me out.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:14:26am

re: #414 allegro

I’m a murderer. I just took out a nest of wasps that were determined to make a home right next to my front door. I triedto convince them that this was a terrible place to squat by destroying their nest in progress 5 times with the jet spray hose nozzle in the past 2 days. The little bastards would not be deterred. That got them dead. I do not mourn. I do got the creepy crawlies big though. Eeek, wasps freak me out.

“I want him DEAD! I want his family DEAD!”

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EmmaAnne Aug 29, 2015 • 9:15:19am

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

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Oh, I think there are others who have some regrets. The permanently disabled, the people whose homes were destroyed, the families of the dead. And plenty of women.

cnn.com

Why women are less free 10 years after the invasion of Iraq

Economically, women have gone from being visibly active in the Iraqi work force in the 1980s — particularly in the farming, marketing and professional services sectors — to being nearly non-existent in 2013.

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Great White Snark Aug 29, 2015 • 9:15:32am

re: #414 allegro

I’m a murderer. I just took out a nest of wasps that were determined to make a home right next to my front door. I triedto convince them that this was a terrible place to squat by destroying their nest in progress 5 times with the jet spray hose nozzle in the past 2 days. The little bastards would not be deterred. That got them dead. I do not mourn. I do got the creepy crawlies big though. Eeek, wasps freak me out.

No worries. The stupid critters are usually extra prolific. Ever notice? ;-)

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:19:02am

re: #400 Dark_Falcon

Saddam couldn’t lie low, since not taking a shot at Bush the Elder and shaking his fist at the Bush family in general might have been taken as a sign of weakness. Same as with chem weapons: Saddam Hussein could have come clean to Hans Blix and proved he no longer had them. But that would have been Saddam folding when Bush the Younger called his bluff, which would have invited a coup attempt (which if even partially successful would have provided the US and UK with a solid pretext for intervention as long as the coup leader was likely to be less brutal than the Butcher of Baghdad).

Saddam DID fold. Sure, Saddam made a show of resistance back in the late 1990s, to maintain at least some pretense of strength. But as the war loomed, he folded like a cheap suit.

We didn’t believe him, or Blix. We made jokes about how Blix must be blind or stupid. And we invaded anyway, because we were ALWAYS GOING TO INVADE. Bush and the Neocons advising him had been itching to kick over the anthill since GHWB stopped the coalition from overthrowing Saddam back in 1991.

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WhatEVs Aug 29, 2015 • 9:23:07am

re: #418 Blind Frog Belly White

Saddam DID fold. Sure, Saddam made a show of resistance back in the late 1990s, to maintain at least some pretense of strength. But as the war loomed, he folded like a cheap suit.

We didn’t believe him, or Blix. We made jokes about how Blix must be blind or stupid. And we invaded anyway, because we were ALWAYS GOING TO INVADE. Bush and the Neocons advising him had been itching to kick over the anthill since GHWB stopped the coalition from overthrowing Saddam back in 1991.

And amazingly, all this was documented on the PNAC website - all the way through until just a couple of years ago. Then, all those PNAC members became part of either Bush the Younger’s cabal of warmongers, or moved on to other influential think tanks, etc.

It was right there for all to see…Bill Kristol’s Project for a New American Century wanting to take over the world through “education and strength”. Signed letters to Bill Clinton about why we should invade Iraq in the 90s.

It was right fucking there at everyone’s fingertips.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 29, 2015 • 9:24:21am

re: #419 WhatEVs

Not to mention Shrub’s famous quote:

He tried to kill my daddy.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 9:24:32am

re: #385 ObserverArt

re: #390 Dark_Falcon

The difficulty of talking about the connection of oil to the Iraq war is that it played - or could have played - multiple roles.

a) primary incentive: we’re in the war only for the oil; no oil, no war;
b) secondary incentive: we’re in the war for other reasons, but oil helps, and in fact if there was no oil, it would have been difficult to go to the war;
c) tertiary incentive: we’re in the war for other reasons, and we would have gone in, oil or not, but it’s a nice bonus and we’re taking it into account;
d) means to an end: oil is Saddam’s power and we’ll make sure he no longer has it; whether we use the oil ourselves or leave it to the Iraqis is a separate issue.

I’d say that “the war was for oil” fits only (a), (b) is a borderline case and needs some “legwork” to prove it.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:31:19am

re: #421 Nyet

Going back to the 1991 Kuwait invasion, a lot of our motivation was not that we were going to war to take back ‘our oil’, but that we could not allow somebody like Saddam to be in a position to control, directly or indirectly, the largest oil reserves. And even when beaten back into Iraq, Iraq still was in a position to threaten those supplies.

It is, of course, simplistic and dishonest to say we went to war for oil, but it’s not dishonest to observe that without it, we wouldn’t really give a shit about Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, or Saudi Arabia.

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blueraven Aug 29, 2015 • 9:32:38am

re: #418 Blind Frog Belly White

Saddam DID fold. Sure, Saddam made a show of resistance back in the late 1990s, to maintain at least some pretense of strength. But as the war loomed, he folded like a cheap suit.

We didn’t believe him, or Blix. We made jokes about how Blix must be blind or stupid. And we invaded anyway, because we were ALWAYS GOING TO INVADE. Bush and the Neocons advising him had been itching to kick over the anthill since GHWB stopped the coalition from overthrowing Saddam back in 1991.

And the same people who didn’t believe Blix and the IAEA then, are the same ones who don’t believe them now on the Iran deal.

Same with those now siding with Netanyahu who made this claim in 2002:

“If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region.
And I think that people sitting right next door in Iran, young people, and many others, will say the time of such regimes, of such despots is gone.”

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 9:38:10am

re: #422 Blind Frog Belly White

Need the reasons be radically different than those for participating in the Ukrainian situation?

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:38:43am

re: #423 blueraven

What amazes me is that there is absolutely no consequence to being wrong again and again and again. It doesn’t matter if it’s war in the Middle East, or economics, the same people make predictions that fail spectacularly over and over again, and never get called on it. Bill Kristol should be reduced to selling his books out of a shopping cart, not giving ‘expert opinion’ on TV.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 9:39:54am

re: #425 Blind Frog Belly White

How dare you! He is a Serious Person!

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:41:17am

re: #424 Nyet

Need the reasons be radically different than those for participating in the Ukrainian situation?

Notice how we’re not building a coalition of nations to go throw Putin’s buddies out of the Ukraine, just like we stood by and “tsk,tsk’ed” over Georgia.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 9:42:02am

re: #424 Nyet

Need the reasons be radically different than those for participating in the Ukrainian situation?

On that note, I think you should see this:

Russia’s “Secret” Army in Ukraine

I’, reading it now, but your thoughts would be most welcome.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 9:42:41am

re: #427 Blind Frog Belly White

Notice how we’re not building a coalition of nations to go throw Putin’s buddies out of the Ukraine, just like we stood by and “tsk,tsk’ed” over Georgia.

Because you have no military means against Putin, realistically.

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Teukka Aug 29, 2015 • 9:43:12am

Jesus H. Tap-dancing Christ O.O

Chris Christie: Track Immigrants Like Fedex Packages

The last ounce of funny just disappeared from Christ Christie… I mean, you know one of the reasons why we have a pretty good estimate on the number of people murdered in the holocaust is because of the Germans tracking their transports anal retentively?

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 9:43:42am

Whereas you did against Serbia, and you acted.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:44:07am

re: #426 Nyet

How dare you! He is a Serious Person!

After years of reading Krugman, I have determined that I went into the wrong field. Apparently in Economics, there’s no requirement that your hypotheses make accurate predictions. Your hypotheses can even make wildly INaccurate predictions, as long as there are enough people who want to believe them.

ETA: It’s not Krugman making the bad predictions.

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Great White Snark Aug 29, 2015 • 9:45:00am

Please take this as aimed at the media pundit types, not our good people here.
Superpowers do lots of things well worthy of criticism and correction if possible. that having been stipulated-
I start to wonder if a 15 year old teen Iranian today will live to see Iraqi’s, Iranians, Palestinians and Israelis seen as mostly responsible themselves for their actions and or inaction’s rather than largely used as a foil in geopolitical gotcha. By geopolitical gotcha I mean the itinerant critics that reliably put all the ills of the ME on the superpowers one day, culture the next and religions most associated with the M.E. the very next.
That place is a pretzel of influences, money and power. A bag of pretzels. And yet so many oversimplifications in the discourse.

Iraq needs to be about Iraq first. until we get there we certainly can’t help ourselves let alone them.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:46:55am

re: #431 Nyet

Whereas you did against Serbia, and you acted.

But note - Clinton faced a lot of resistance to taking any action in the former Yugoslavia, and had to rely exclusively on air power. By contrast, retaking Kuwait and invading Iraq 12 years later had a lot of popular support, such that the Bushes were able to commit a major portion of our forces to it.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 9:49:49am

re: #428 Dark_Falcon

Ukrainian intelligence sources are a double-edged sword. They brilliantly executed an anti-propaganda feat by releasing the wiretaps of the LDNR bandits discussing MH17.

But then the SBU head Nalivaichenko came up with some idiotic conspiracy theory about MH17, also allegedly based on sources, that was dismissed by reasonable observers.

So one should be careful.

But given all the names, and also the Ukrainian surveillance capabilities it is plausible that they did gather the info more or less correctly. Needs further checking tho.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 9:49:52am

re: #427 Blind Frog Belly White

Notice how we’re not building a coalition of nations to go throw Putin’s buddies out of the Ukraine, just like we stood by and “tsk,tsk’ed” over Georgia.

Russia has nukes. But they also have long-range bombers and cruise missiles. All they’d have to do is blow up an oil refinery or two and Walter Wingnut will find himself walking to the bus stop because he can’t get gas for his “Freedom-Sized” SUV anymore.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:50:55am

re: #429 Nyet

Because you have no military means against Putin, realistically.

We moved a crapload of men and equipment into Saudi Arabia in 1990 and 1991, and we were warned - and not just by Saddam - that it would be costly in lives for us to attack.

There is no political will to do anything about the Ukraine, at least in part because the Ukraine doesn’t produce anything we see as vital to us.

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wrenchwench Aug 29, 2015 • 9:53:31am

Racial Bias Affects How Doctors Do Their Job, New Training Hopes To Fix It http://t.co/RXvpzv2zQi pic.twitter.com/rsuiNhUfWT

— Larry Cooper (@coopah) August 29, 2015

Implicit bias also affects students and faculty in medical school, hindering advancement and placement of Black doctors.

The American Association of American colleges has partnered with a consulting form to create a training program called the Every Day Bias Workshop with the hope of reducing the implicit bias that causes Black people to be treated differently within the medical system.

The stated goal for both physicians and medical school faculty is for the training to allow them to examine how their individual biases influence their decision-making processes and their interactions with others.

[…]

Everybody needs this, but cops first, because they are armed. Medical people are more reasonable, though, apparently.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 9:54:52am

re: #436 Dark_Falcon

Russia has nukes. But they also have long-range bombers and cruise missiles. All they’d have to do is blow up an oil refinery or two and Walter Wingnut will find himself walking to the bus stop because he can’t get gas for his “Freedom-Sized” SUV anymore.

Notwithstanding Russia’s military might - whatever it might be - Americans simply don’t give much of a shit. McCain was largely alone in making a stink about Georgia, and even Republicans don’t care about the Ukraine, except as a club to beat Obama with.

We’re not standing by, wanting to help, but unwilling to risk WWIII. We just don’t give a shit.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 9:56:16am

re: #439 Blind Frog Belly White

If you didn’t, there would have been no sanctions and no Lukewarm War.

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blueraven Aug 29, 2015 • 9:57:02am

re: #434 Blind Frog Belly White

But note - Clinton faced a lot of resistance to taking any action in the former Yugoslavia, and had to rely exclusively on air power. By contrast, retaking Kuwait and invading Iraq 12 years later had a lot of popular support, such that the Bushes were able to commit a major portion of our forces to it.

A lot of “wag the dog” talk too on the bombing of the Sudan Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory. Connections to bin Laden, al Qaeda were scoffed at by many as diversions from the Lewenski affair.

Later of course, they claimed Clinton had ignored the threat of terrorism.

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wrenchwench Aug 29, 2015 • 9:57:32am

George Lopez pic.twitter.com/WCcLqNxQfJ

— Larry Cooper (@coopah) August 29, 2015

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 9:58:14am

re: #442 wrenchwench

Youtube Video

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Great White Snark Aug 29, 2015 • 9:59:21am

re: #437 Blind Frog Belly White

Another superpowers doorstep is not the the same as the Middle East either. Imagine if you will a collapse or revolution in Mexico. And Russia moves to severely limit our influence there, growing their own to our detriment, and rolling military gear into the region, like maybe Venezuela.

Rough analogy? Sure. But it makes the right point.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 10:00:01am

re: #440 Nyet

If you didn’t, there would have been no sanctions and no Lukewarm War.

Sanctions are cheap. What do we give up by imposing sanctions on Russia? Look at how LITTLE airplay the Ukraine gets in the news here.

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wrenchwench Aug 29, 2015 • 10:01:15am

re: #443 Nyet

[Embedded content]

Isaac Hayes, nice!

2 tablespoons of cinnamon
And 2 or 3 egg whites
A half a stick of butter
Melt it.

Stick it all in a bowl, baby
Stir it with a wooden spoon.
Mix in a cup of flour,
You’ll be in Heaven soon.

Say everybody, have you seen my balls?
They’re big and salty and brown!
If you ever need ‘em quick,
Pick me up
Just stick my balls in your mouth

OOOHH!!

Much more if you click thru to YouTube.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 10:02:32am

re: #444 Great White Snark

Another superpowers doorstep is not the the same as the Middle East either. Imagine if you will a collapse or revolution in Mexico. And Russia moves to severely limit our influence there, growing their own to our detriment, and rolling military gear into the region, like maybe Venezuela.

Rough analogy? Sure. But it makes the right point.

Notice how seldom the Ukraine gets mentioned by the 17 Clowns. That’s how little we care. Not ‘we care, but can’t really do anything’. Just. Don’t. Care.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Aug 29, 2015 • 10:13:36am

re: #431 Nyet

Whereas you did against Serbia, and you acted.

We managed to organize a few air strikes against Serbia—over the frenzied opposition of the very same people who said that Iraq crossing some imaginary line in the sand (drawn by some bureaucrat in the British Foreign Office) was the Worstest Thing EVAR!! and putting the Emir of Kuwait back on his throne was the most important thing in the world.

The difference being that the Bosnians and Kosovars didn’t have any oil. That’s the long and the short of it, and nothing will convince me otherwise. Bush the Lesser’s invasion was just cleaning up unfinished business from the first Gulf War, so it’s covered by the same motivations.

449

Great White Snark Aug 29, 2015 • 10:14:20am

re: #447 Blind Frog Belly White

“Let Them Eat Fake” is what I hear from every one of them.

450

Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 10:15:37am

re: #448 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

and nothing will convince me otherwise

No sense in trying then :)

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bratwurst Aug 29, 2015 • 10:15:59am

Perfect:

Hulk Hogan: "I want to be Trump's running mate" http://t.co/AuSYBDjdlp pic.twitter.com/xIycAGyoxB

— The Hill (@thehill) August 29, 2015

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Great White Snark Aug 29, 2015 • 10:17:23am

re: #448 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One quibble-HW Bush made a very deliberate decision to leave Saddam in place and for reasons not only well understood then but proven later. Characterizing that as “unfinished business” distorts via conflation. I have heard of staining the son with the sins of the father but the other way around? I don’t see it.

Love the point about the Brit border. Nobody wants to admit that one.

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Decatur Deb Aug 29, 2015 • 10:17:56am

re: #451 bratwurst

Perfect:

[Embedded content]

Hogan brings governing experience and gravitas to an otherwise whimsical exercise.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 10:17:57am

re: #447 Blind Frog Belly White

Notice how seldom the Ukraine gets mentioned by the 17 Clowns. That’s how little we care. Not ‘we care, but can’t really do anything’. Just. Don’t. Care.

To be fair, they did report on it when significant territory was changing hands, but the current semi-frozen conflict doesn’t give much to report for those without special interest.

Further, Russians are not as ‘scary’ to the newsnets’ target audience as is Daesh (ISIS), in part because Daesh has the “Scary Mooslum!!1” angle. Also because its Daesh that is inspiring terror attacks in North America and Europe. Those attacks cause fear because of their unpredictability and because the people they kill are Westerners.

The still-somewhat exotic nature of Middle Eastern enemies causes them to induce somewhat greater fear. Russian ICBMs and bombers, by contrast, are more of a known quantity. The Air Force can say reassuring things about how much better our fighters and bombers are, and make their case with facts and figures, plus cool images like the F-35 firing its 25mm Gatling Gun. Those trying to stop terror attacks cannot provide the same level of reassurance.

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 10:19:07am

re: #453 Decatur Deb

Hogan brings governing experience and gravitas to an otherwise whimsical exercise.

I regret that I have but one upding, etc.

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 10:21:39am

re: #453 Decatur Deb

Hogan brings governing experience and gravitas to an otherwise whimsical exercise.

And they’ve both been to Wrestlemania and have both gotten the Stone Cold Stunner. I know Trump got one because a Mexico lady in the same car as me on the CTA Orange Line yesterday had been sent the vid by a friend and she showed me.

True Story.

457

Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 29, 2015 • 10:23:32am

Trump & Palin are sick of gotcha questions like: "Have you read a whole book?" Or: "Is the president of the United States is a citizen?"

— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) August 29, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 29, 2015 • 10:24:35am

oh. my.

OMG: Trump just brought Sharron Angle on stage at his rally in Nashville. Then says: "Get the hell off stage. Thank you, darling."

— James Hohmann (@jameshohmann) August 29, 2015

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Dark_Falcon Aug 29, 2015 • 10:25:27am

And now, since its Caturday,

Meet Nitama, the new cat in charge at Japan’s Kishi Station

It’s one of the most closely guarded succession plans outside of North Korea: Who will replace Tama?

Japan’s cute cat stationmaster passed away earlier this year, leaving a kitty-shaped hole in the country’s heart and its 27,000 kilometer-long railway network.

Now, after a wait of 50 days — the traditional mourning period according to Japanese Shinto beliefs — there’s a new cat in charge.

Nitama, Tama’s old assistant stationmaster, has assumed the position, beating several other cat candidates to run Kishi train station in Wakayama Prefecture’s rural Kinokawa neighborhood.

SNIP

To ensure her success, Nitama has graduated from Cat Stationmaster Training School.

It’s not the toughest of schools, but cats must demonstrate a relaxed attitude to working with people and a willingness to wear a hat, according to the railway company.

Nitama “doesn’t dislike wearing a hat,” according Hitofumi Ino, spokesperson of the Ryobi Group, which oversees the railway.

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Nyet Aug 29, 2015 • 10:26:07am

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 29, 2015 • 10:28:05am

At event in Nashville pic.twitter.com/JsfUuEX1BG

— James Hohmann (@jameshohmann) August 29, 2015

Loud cheers when Trump says he's suing Univision for $500 mm. Loud boos when Trump says Jorge Ramos' daughter works for Hillary Clinton.

— James Hohmann (@jameshohmann) August 29, 2015

Trump just called Jorge Ramos "Jose Reyes." Then corrected himself. Jose Reyes is a baseball player for the Colorado Rockies. #Nashville

— James Hohmann (@jameshohmann) August 29, 2015

TRUMP: Personal financial disclosure statements "aren't meant for a guy like me."

— James Hohmann (@jameshohmann) August 29, 2015

so much more Trump weirdness at that twitter TL

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Backwoods_Sleuth Aug 29, 2015 • 10:30:03am

There's only a couple of hundred people at the conference Trump's speaking at, BUT he claims "They turned away thousands of people I hear."

— James Hohmann (@jameshohmann) August 29, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Aug 29, 2015 • 10:38:28am

Uh-oh. I think I just felt the first stirrings of wanting to be a Grandpa. The Younger Boy just wandered out to say good morning. I found myself SERIOUSLY missing rocking him to sleep as a baby - now very impractical with him being 6’1”. The pangs are almost palpable.

Crap. I must be old or something.

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wrenchwench Aug 29, 2015 • 10:40:16am

.@ASU researchers look to see if empathy will help people make better decisions on using & sharing Southwest water. http://t.co/tYm4ZD735k

— AZ Board of Regents (@AZRegents) August 28, 2015

[…]

Empathy is the crux of the study. The researchers want to see whether participants can be coaxed into relinquishing power for the greater good.

The National Science Foundation awarded $449,000 to the interdisciplinary group in July. The scholars are from the School of Public Affairs, the W. P. Carey School of Business, the School of Social Work and the Decision Center for a Desert City.

[…]

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Aug 29, 2015 • 10:43:38am

re: #413 Eric The Fruit Bat

mr. klys and I had a reading from the initial CA ruling (pre-Prop 8) in our wedding.

It was a way to support without being too blatant because, well, family. Sigh.

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wrenchwench Aug 29, 2015 • 10:43:43am

re: #463 Blind Frog Belly White

Uh-oh. I think I just felt the first stirrings of wanting to be a Grandpa. The Younger Boy just wandered out to say good morning. I found myself SERIOUSLY missing rocking him to sleep as a baby - now very impractical with him being 6’1”. The pangs are almost palpable.

Crap. I must be old or something.

Greyhound substitute?

Rescued Greyhounds Win The Ultimate Prize

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KiTA Aug 29, 2015 • 10:53:51am

Video Shows Texas Police Shoot Man With His Hands Up

After a tense confrontation Friday, sheriff’s deputies responding to a domestic disturbance near San Antonio shot and killed a man seconds after he appeared to raise his hands in surrender.
Video recorded by a student named Michael Thomas and aired in part by a local ABC News affiliate shows a pair of deputies and a shirtless man moving about the front yard of a home in Bexar County, Texas. Thomas was too far away for his camera to pick up any of what was said between the three men. KSAT12 News decided to freeze the video just before the deputies fired two fatal shots.

At least people are learning if you see cops in your neighborhood, whip out the phone and start recording, ASAP.

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blueraven Aug 29, 2015 • 11:13:48am

re: #467 KiTA

Video Shows Texas Police Shoot Man With His Hands Up

At least people are learning if you see cops in your neighborhood, whip out the phone and start recording, ASAP.

On the other hand, the officer who was gunned down execution style while gassing up his vehicle in TX, is just as bad.

People should not be targeted because of the group they belong to.

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wrenchwench Aug 29, 2015 • 11:15:22am

Judge Fines Attorney For Making Menopause 'Joke' http://t.co/FNA9IQohuW pic.twitter.com/s4IvbSB0Zf

— Larry Cooper (@coopah) August 29, 2015

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Great White Snark Aug 29, 2015 • 11:20:00am

pic.twitter.com/c2jtFZRZKF

— emilio porompompero (@PoromEmilio) August 29, 2015

@PoromEmilio You got quite the side eye from a couple of those birds. Might be critics.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) August 29, 2015

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Great White Snark Aug 29, 2015 • 11:26:12am

re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth

@jameshohmann True but they all had torches or pitchforks.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) August 29, 2015

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wrenchwench Aug 29, 2015 • 11:30:30am

Some Germans are doing it right:

Video: Thousands march in Dresden, Germany today to welcome refugees http://t.co/kpxjFkqf9Z Report: http://t.co/EWE6DXuLBV

— Elizabeth Tsurkov (@Elizrael) August 29, 2015

Including Merkel, AFAIK:

[…]

Chancellor Angela Merkel was booed by far-right activists as she visited the centre this week, with about 200 people shouting “traitor, traitor” at her.

Merkel said there would be zero tolerance for “vile” anti-migrant violence.

Public opinion is largely behind her, with 60 percent of Germans polled by public broadcaster ZDF saying that Europe’s biggest economy is capable of hosting the asylum-seekers.

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Romantic Heretic Aug 29, 2015 • 11:37:17am

re: #383 darthstar

Christie says, if elected, he’ll tap FedEx’s Fred Smith for a 3-month gig to teach how to track ~~immigrants~~ citizens w same efficiency as packages.

What Christie really meant.

You don’t think he’d stop with immigrants, do you?

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scottslemmons Aug 29, 2015 • 11:40:12am

re: #473 Romantic Heretic

What Christie really meant.

You don’t think he’d stop with immigrants, do you?

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear…

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Romantic Heretic Aug 29, 2015 • 11:51:56am

re: #432 Blind Frog Belly White

After years of reading Krugman, I have determined that I went into the wrong field. Apparently in Economics, there’s no requirement that your hypotheses make accurate predictions. Your hypotheses can even make wildly INaccurate predictions, as long as there are enough people who want to believe them.

ETA: It’s not Krugman making the bad predictions.

The problem is that economics, especially ‘fresh water’ economics, is based on the idea that people are ‘rational’. Even the anarchists, I mean libertarians, try to pretend their cruel selfishness is ‘rational’.

However humans are not very rational creature overall and in my opinion. Much of the time, it seems to me, that they are emotional computers where their behaviour is highly emotional and based on data that exists only in their imagination. That data was programmed into them many years before and it is accepted without question.

So ‘rational’ is often an excuse and far from the truth.

It’s why I belief the emerging field of behavioural economics will yield better results than what we have called economics to date.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 29, 2015 • 12:53:32pm

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

Two words that actually might put fear into The Donald: Forensic Audit.

Spy Auto

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