The Fox Business GOP Clown Car Debate 1: The Kiddie Table

First, the also-rans
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The Fox News (actually Fox Business) circus is about to begin! As usual, the festivities will open with a humiliating “also-ran” debate featuring the candidates with poll numbers so dismal they don’t rate a spot in the prime time debate: Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum.

You can watch the debate live over the web here, and they say you don’t need to have a cable TV account.

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325 comments
1
Jenner7  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:02:34pm

Ding! Ding!

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bratwurst  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:03:03pm

Wow, that intro from Lou Dobbs was ROUSING. Lou has to go to bed now, but his fake hair and teeth will be sticking around to anchor the hour between the debates.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:03:12pm

Horrible answer by Christie so far. Christ.

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:03:31pm

Christie’s polling is so bad….

how bad is it?

Attending the kid’s table debate is a step up from going back to NJ where polled voters say he should just go away.

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:04:19pm

And that worse recovery in American history came after the Republicans caused the worse recession in Americas history.

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:05:13pm

Lies, damned lies, and the GOP. Perfect together.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:05:16pm

I DON’T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO MOVE AWAY FROM MANUFACTURING.

Because it’s 2015, Huck. Even my co-workers laughed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:06:17pm

Huckabee hauls out his horrible garbage “Fair Tax” on CONSUMERS.

Hello you fuckweasel, how are you going to bring back manufacturing jobs IF PEOPLE CAN’T FUCKING BUY STUFF.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:06:22pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:06:31pm

re: #7 lawhawk

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Lies, damned lies, and the GOP. Perfect together.

Jeezus, that’s a quarter of the entire country. Are they counting children and the retired??

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:06:57pm

The Fair Tax (Flat Tax) = Goodbye SS and Medicare.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:07:06pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:07:37pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

“Fair tax” n.

1. A Republican scheme to shift even more money into the pockets of the super-rich.

Cough. Excuse me. That’s JOB CREATORS to you, pleb.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:07:56pm

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

Jeezus, that’s a quarter of the entire country. Are they counting children and the retired??

And a million or so doing time for drugs.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:07:59pm

20% Flat Tax would fuck over everyone except the rich.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:08:37pm

re: #16 Lidane

20% Flat Tax would fuck over everyone except the rich.

Morning has broken.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:08:49pm

re: #16 Lidane

20% Flat Tax would fuck over everyone except the rich.

Is that his idea of a fair tax? Did he miss Economics 101 where the concepts of progressive and regressive taxation were covered?

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:08:58pm

These assholes are literally debating against all the technological progress we’ve made in the last 25 years. Amazing.

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KGxvi  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:09:16pm

re: #7 lawhawk

well, if you count children, stay at home parents, and retired people, you can probably get to 90 million “unemployed”. As for anemic job growth, that’s kind of what happens when you have 5% unemployment, or as they used to call it in the 1990s “full employment.”

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:09:17pm
I’ll trust ya’ll to fill me in.
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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:09:27pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:09:37pm

re: #18 thedopefishlives

Is that his idea of a fair tax? Did he miss Economics 101 where the concepts of progressive and regressive taxation were covered?

Yep. Santorum’s plan is 20% across the board for everyone.

Huck’s plan is a national “consumption tax”.

They’re both morons.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:09:42pm

crackpot tax schemes : required

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darthstar  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:09:46pm

Gentlemen, you’re opening statements:
Booby Jindal: Where’s Lindsey?
Rick Santorum: I’m happy to hear the sanctity of man on dog love is safe in NJ.
Chris Christie: What the fuck is this shit? There’s not even an audience! Where’s Rand Paul?
Mike Huckabee: Oh, for the love of Jesus…the kids’ table? March me to the oven doors, why don’t you?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:09:53pm

re: #18 thedopefishlives

Is that his idea of a fair tax? Did he miss Economics 101 where the concepts of progressive and regressive taxation were covered?

If that’s Huckabee, his economics depends on the distribution of loaves and fishes.

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:10:02pm

Jindal is lying through his teeth.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:10:03pm

Bobby Jindal now blatantly lying that Louisiana’s economy is booming.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:10:31pm

re: #26 Decatur Deb

If that’s Huckabee, his economics depends on the distribution of loaves and fishes.

No, it was Santorum. He’s the genius who babbles about a 20% flat tax. Huck is the one who wants to get rid of the IRS and enact a national consumption tax.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:10:39pm

re: #8 Lidane

I DON’T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO MOVE AWAY FROM MANUFACTURING.

Because it’s 2015, Huck. Even my co-workers laughed.

There’s nothing wrong with manufacturing, but this isn’t the 1940’s, as much as they wish it was. I wouldn’t mind more locally manufactured goods, but high-tech industry is where it’s at now.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:10:45pm

re: #27 Tigger2

Jindal is lying through his teeth.

So his lips were moving.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:10:56pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:11:14pm

re: #30 thedopefishlives

There’s nothing wrong with manufacturing, but this isn’t the 1940’s, as much as they wish it was. I wouldn’t mind more locally manufactured goods, but high-tech industry is where it’s at now.

Well that’s what I mean. They’re talking about an America that hasn’t existed in at least 60 years.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:11:37pm

re: #16 Lidane

20% Flat Tax would fuck over everyone except the rich.

#FairTax even worse

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Jenner7  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:12:07pm

guberment is bad mmmkay?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:12:15pm

I’m not going to watch. I feel like it will likely end up being another “take GOP talking point and rephrase it as a question” exercise. I guess I’ll lurk here from time to time. I’m too engrossed in “The Orphan Master’s Son” right now.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:12:19pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:12:34pm

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, my macro professor was very explicit in explaining how flat sales taxes screw over poor people disproportionately. It is literally the textbook definition of a regressive tax.

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:12:59pm

re: #20 KGxvi

well, if you count children, stay at home parents, and retired people, you can probably get to 90 million “unemployed”. As for anemic job growth, that’s kind of what happens when you have 5% unemployment, or as they used to call it in the 1990s “full employment.”

6+ years of constant job growth. Unemployment rates dropping below the pre recession levels. U3 and U6 rates.

But these folks continue with the lie that the rate is many times higher, even though there’s no actual proof that this is the case.

The only thing that leans towards the rate being insufficient is that the labor participation rate has started to fall off, but that’s a function of the fact that Baby Boomers are starting to retire from the workforce, which means that it has nothing to do with the economy but demographics. (I know, too big a word concept for the GOP to digest).

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Major Tom  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:13:20pm

What a holy shit question. How would you incentivize a single mother to get off her lazy ass and go back to work? Jesus Christ.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:13:25pm

re: #37 Lidane

Bobby Jindal says Obama is on the brink of bringing socialism to America. We’ve been hearing that for the last 7 years…

Promises, promises…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:13:43pm

FORCED MARRIAGE that’s great Frothy

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:13:58pm

re: #40 Major Tom

What a holy shit question. How would you incentivize a single mother to get off her lazy ass and go back to work? Jesus Christ.

I just can’t even.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:14:14pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:14:16pm

Santorum is such a lying motherfucker.

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:14:37pm

re: #38 thedopefishlives

Yeah, it’s also one of those kinds of taxes that the right wing illiterates think that the poor don’t pay. Along with motor fuel, excise, alcohol, tobacco, and other misc taxes and fees imposed on every day activities.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:15:04pm

HURR HURR GOV HUCKABEE HOW WILL U GET THOSE LAZY MOOCHERS OFF THERE LAZY BUTTS & INTO TEH SWEAT SHOPS!!!!!!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:15:05pm

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

FORCED MARRIAGE that’s great Frothy

There’s no reason for forced marriage if the fathers can come to a reasonable settlement.

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:15:23pm

re: #37 Lidane

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:15:55pm

The reason we still have so much poverty, Huck, is because incomes have stagnated compared to the cost of living. Asshole.

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Major Tom  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:16:17pm

It’s not the tax system Huckabee! It’s the wages! It’s the lack of vertical mobility!

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ObserverArt  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:16:25pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Bobby Jindal now blatantly lying that Louisiana’s economy is booming.

Booming as in blowing the hell up.

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KGxvi  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:17:01pm

re: #39 lawhawk

There is, I think, a feeling within much of the population that even though unemployment is down and the stock market is up, most people are treading water. The GOP is cynically playing that emotion, but I don’t think they realize that what they’re really stoking is the fires of resentment and that it is likely going to blow back against them.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:17:05pm
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Major Tom  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:17:32pm

re: #53 KGxvi

I hope you’re right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:17:40pm

Because they’re not lies, Ben

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:18:12pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

Wait I thought raising kids was a full time job and it was wrong to suggest otherwise? I guess it only counts as “work” if you’re Ann Romney.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:18:16pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:18:20pm

Jindal’s bullshit actually made the TV in the office cut out. LOLOLOL.

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b_sharp  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:18:43pm

I see the evenings entertainment has arrived.

Who’s currently on the high wire?

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KGxvi  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:19:11pm

re: #55 Major Tom

American populism has always been easy to ignite but damn near impossible to control.

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Jenner7  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:19:41pm

I’m so glad I’m not a Republican.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:19:44pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:20:17pm

re: #61 KGxvi

American populism has always been easy to ignite but damn near impossible to control.

And it often ends with a bullet in the back.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:20:42pm

re: #52 ObserverArt

Booming as in blowing the hell up.

Which explains Jindal’s great approval ratings in Louisiana. Not.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:20:53pm

My general reaction to this debate so far:

Youtube Video

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ObserverArt  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:20:57pm

Christie attacks Hillary. But keeps it on economics by saying she will tax the rich to hell.

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WhatEVs  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:21:05pm

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

I’m not going to watch. I feel like it will likely end up being another “take GOP talking point and rephrase it as a question” exercise. I guess I’ll lurk here from time to time. I’m too engrossed in “The Orphan Master’s Son” right now.

Talking points by both hosts and participants. The hosts do the setup lies and the participants then reply with their lying memes. It’s a lying memefest. For the stupid.

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Jenner7  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:21:28pm

In my best Jan voice: HILLARY, HILLARY, HILLARY! ::stomping up the stairs::

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:21:30pm

Christie talking about an Executive Order to stop regulations.

I thought the GOP hated Executive Orders.

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Major Tom  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:21:57pm

Oh Christie (chuckle) No one’s worried about Huckabee or Jindal… (Chuckle)

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:22:27pm

re: #71 Major Tom

Oh Christie (chuckle) No one’s worried about Huckabee or Jindal… (Chuckle)

And they want Hillary over any of the GOP clowns, if her polls are anything to go by.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:22:49pm

re: #71 Major Tom

Oh Christie (chuckle) No one’s worried about Huckabee or Jindal… (Chuckle)

This is the kids’ table, Chris. No one cares about any of you. At. All.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:23:10pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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True. Bovine excrement is a substance.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:23:15pm

Holy shit. An anti-CFPB ad. WTF.

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:24:23pm

The big bad boogeyman Hillary is coming for your wallet. lol Christie is a joke.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:25:23pm

I missed the first 25 minutes… but I didn’t miss anything, it appears.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:25:55pm

It didn’t work.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:26:44pm

“I’M A CAPITALIST NOT A CORPORATIST!”

Santorum is a moron.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:27:06pm

re: #79 Lidane

“I’M A CAPITALIST NOT A CORPORATIST!”

Santorum is a moron.

Distinction without a difference.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:28:07pm

re: #80 thedopefishlives

Distinction without a difference.

Exactly. WTF was he babbling about? There is no difference except in crazy RWNJ land.

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:28:16pm

re: #7 lawhawk

Wow Fox Business debate starts with a whopper of a lie. Moderator says 90 million unemployed and anemic job growth.

So you don’t think the plight of the unemployed baby deserves to be addressed? Typical heartless liberal, no time to spare for the common working child…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:29:18pm

“Pay off the $19 Trillion debt by reducing taxes”

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Jenner7  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:29:32pm

“We can’t take care of Americans, how can we take refugees?”

You don’t want to take care of Americans either.

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gocart mozart  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:29:55pm

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

Jeezus, that’s a quarter of the entire country. Are they counting children and the retired??

Yes, also the disabled.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:30:02pm

Even my co-workers gave Huck the side-eye about the whole “encampment” line about the Syrian refugees.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:30:02pm

re: #53 KGxvi

There is, I think, a feeling within much of the population that even though unemployment is down and the stock market is up, most people are treading water. The GOP is cynically playing that emotion, but I don’t think they realize that what they’re really stoking is the fires of resentment and that it is likely going to blow back against them.

they want to, and largely succeed in, grabbing that anger and directing against targets of their choosing - that is, they blame ‘liberals’ for everything that’s wrong

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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:30:08pm

re: #84 Jenner7

“We can’t take care of Americans, how can we take refugees?”

You don’t want to take care of Americans either.

BUTBUTBUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE FACEBOOK MEMES ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD BE HOUSING OUR VETERANS INSTEAD OF TEH SYRIAN TERRORISTS?!?!?!?!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:30:35pm

re: #85 gocart mozart

Yes, also the disabled.

And the idle rich.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:30:52pm

I’m getting lots of dropped Fox Business connections … need to find a good audio stream.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:31:40pm

Economy is growing, and lots of part-time workers are getting full-time jobs.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:32:21pm

re: #90 freetoken

I’m getting lots of dropped Fox Business connections … need to find a good audio stream.

I’ve got the Clancy Brothers farewell concert on YT.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:32:25pm

NUKE CHINA!

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:32:58pm

Jindal shut up you dickhead.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:33:14pm

CHYNA!!!!!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:33:28pm

Oh mah gawd.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:34:40pm

re: #85 gocart mozart

Yes, also the disabled.

The number of people they’re calling “unemployed” is everyone over 16 who isn’t currently employed. Full time students, stay at home moms, retirees, the disabled, etc. Mind you, we all knew this was coming, since we Baby Boomers weren’t planning on working forever. My siblings and I span the core of the Boom - 1945-1957 - and already 1/3 of us are retired.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:34:49pm

Jindal trying to be the TRUE CONSERVATIVE.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:35:29pm

re: #98 Lidane

Jindal trying to be the TRUE CONSERVATIVE.

So, he gave up on not being the Stupid Party, eh?

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:35:40pm

Another 4 years of Obama’s policies would mean Americas economy would keep growing.

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plansbandc  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:35:43pm

I’m so happy you guys watch this shit so I don’t have to. Thank you so much.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:35:48pm

Christie and Jindal are alike in that both are hated in their home states.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:35:56pm

The audio stream is ahead of the video stream on the website:

affiliates.foxnewsradio.com

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Major Tom  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:36:01pm

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

Many* Baby Boomers were born without the portion of the brain that allows for self-scrutiny.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:36:04pm

re: #101 plansbandc

I’m so happy you guys watch this shit so I don’t have to. Thank you so much.

Ignorance is sometimes bliss.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:36:12pm

The people in Louisiana have a huge fucking problem with what Jindal’s done in Louisiana, Christie.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:36:32pm

Christie/Jindhal fight!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:36:45pm
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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:36:54pm

Lots of dropped connections still, and I don’t think its all Cox Cable’s fault.

I wonder how many people are streaming this?

If only they would let Google stream it - Youtube could handle the traffic.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:37:37pm

re: #107 Eric The Fruit Bat

Christie/Jindhal fight!

Vince McMahon would have the big guy go over.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:37:46pm

Europe proved austerity in economic hard times makes it worse.

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:37:54pm

Jindal you have no plan on healthcare.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:39:15pm

re: #112 Tigger2

Jindal you have no plan on healthcare.

Bragging about denying healthcare to poor people.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:39:36pm

re: #104 Major Tom

Baby Boomers were born without the portion of the brain that allows for self-scrutiny.

HEY!

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:39:37pm

re: #54 Lidane

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Take out child and infant deaths and recalculate the life expectancy, Huck.

Moron.

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Major Tom  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:40:05pm

“What do you think will happen when Hillary Clinton is elected President of the United States? …The woman who tried to impose health care on us twenty years ago.”

The nerve. Imposing healthcare on us all.

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:40:07pm

Now Hillary’s a boogeyman that wants to give more people the chance to get some healthcare. Christie’s on a roll.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:40:13pm

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Bragging about denying healthcare to poor people.

Well, those poor people should have chosen more prosperous vaginas to be born out of.

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Major Tom  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:40:31pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

I admit, that was a bit too general. I edited the comment.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:40:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:41:30pm

re: #115 Sophist C. Johnson

Take out child and infant deaths and recalculate the life expectancy, Huck.

Moron.

Note also that it’s almost entirely driven by the more affluent end of the scale. The working poor haven’t seen an increase in life expectancy at age 65.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:42:36pm

These guys - are they running for VP? Of course they are.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:42:38pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:43:22pm

“Name a Democratic congressman you admire.”

NO! THEY ALL NEED TO BE FIRED!

Good grief.

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bratwurst  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:43:27pm

Jindal trying to go all Ted Cruz on the moderators.

I am glad there is ZERO chance any of these men will ever be POTUS.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:44:29pm

Santorum having a Howard Dean moment there.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:44:49pm

LAWLESSNESS!

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:45:02pm

Christie, to the cops when I’m the President you can kill anyone you want, no questions asked I’ll have your back.

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blueraven  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:45:12pm

Jindal is like a little lap dog that never stops yapping except to whine.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:45:37pm

No more roads!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:45:44pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:45:48pm
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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:46:31pm

re: #132 Lidane

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And getting less successful every time. With voters, anyway. His grifting will let him die fat and happy, emphasis on the fat.

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Skip Intro  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:46:56pm

A new explanation of the dinosaur extinction that even a Republican could accept.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:47:03pm

I TOOK HEALTHCARE AWAY FROM POOR PEOPLE!!!!11

NO, I TOOK HEALTHCARE AWAY FROM MOAR POORS!!!1!!!!

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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:47:16pm

OK—Christie is an obnoxious, lying asshole, but he’s got to be thinking, “Keerist, do I REALLY have to debate Bobby Jindal, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum??”

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calochortus  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:47:16pm

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

The number of people they’re calling “unemployed” is everyone over 16 who isn’t currently employed. Full time students, stay at home moms, retirees, the disabled, etc. Mind you, we all knew this was coming, since we Baby Boomers weren’t planning on working forever. My siblings and I span the core of the Boom - 1945-1957 - and already 1/3 of us are retired.

Let me understand this. I was a stay at home mom, married to the same man for 38 years now. I raised my kids, looked after my mother in her final years, still do the housework, much of the yard work and so forth, and the Republicans want to force me to go get a job at the age of 62?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:47:51pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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Hey, at least he called you Liberal!

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:47:59pm

The purpose of an undercard is to give you time to go and buy some nachos.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:48:15pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Aaaand your mentions will now go to shit.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:48:20pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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At least Luntz knows you’re a fuckn’ liberal.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:48:21pm

re: #137 calochortus

Let me understand this. I was a stay at home mom, married to the same man for 38 years now. I raised my kids, looked after my mother in her final years, still do the housework, much of the yard work and so forth, and the Republicans want to force me to go get a job at the age of 62?

I’d say that’s about it.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:48:48pm

FLAT TAX!!

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:48:56pm

re: #139 freetoken

The purpose of an undercard is to give you time to go and buy some nachos.

And to drink yourself into a stupor to match the collective IQ on the debate stage.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:49:03pm
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Blizard  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:49:14pm

Hey all! Checking in to the kiddie table circus from Colorado. Aspen/fir crackling in the wood stove, Breckenridge Vanilla Porter in hand, and a storm on the way. Supposed to get a foot tonight.

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calochortus  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:49:20pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

I’d say that’s about it.

Freedumb!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:49:30pm

re: #137 calochortus

Let me understand this. I was a stay at home mom, married to the same man for 38 years now. I raised my kids, looked after my mother in her final years, still do the housework, much of the yard work and so forth, and the Republicans want to force me to go get a job at the age of 62?

No, no! They just want to call you a lazy moocher. It works better for them that way.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:49:45pm

re: #52 ObserverArt

Booming as in blowing the hell up.

No kidding. Has he been in his own state lately?? Louisiana through to the Georgia coast is fifty flavors of shitheap*. Eastern Germany looked better AFTER the wall came down. “Booming” my pale white ass.

* and I say this not with condemnation, but with sadness. Combined GDP of the former Confederacy has got to be less than even just a couple of the coastal states, judging by eye from the road.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:49:48pm

Why, in an “economics’ debate, do none of the candidates see to know anything about economics??

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:49:56pm

re: #143 freetoken

FLAT TAX!!

Drink!

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:50:32pm

EVERYBODY SHOULD PAY SOMETHING!!

Really? Even the infants??

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:50:41pm

re: #150 freetoken

Why, in an “economics’ debate, do none of the candidates see to know anything about economics??

Well, to be fair, if the moderators are coming from Fox Business News, it’s pretty much ignorance all around.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:50:58pm

CUT ALL THE TAXXXXXES!!!

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:07pm

His response? Declare cyber war against China.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:10pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:17pm

re: #152 freetoken

EVERYBODY SHOULD PAY SOMETHING!!

Really? Even the infants??

They should have skin in the game, because not knowing whether you can afford to pay rent isn’t skin enough.

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ObserverArt  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:19pm

re: #124 teleskiguy

“Name a Democratic congressman you admire.”

NO! THEY ALL NEED TO BE FIRED!

Good grief.

Those fools don’t get why congress gets a 15% approval rating. People of all parties are sick of the two parties not working together as intended.

So answering a question that gets to working with Democrats is just as important as any of the others they refuse to really answer.

Grandstanding at best.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:30pm

re: #149 Pawn of the Oppressor

No kidding. Has he been in his own state lately?? Louisiana through to the Georgia coast is fifty flavors of shitheap. Eastern Germany looked better AFTER the wall came down. “Booming” my pale white ass.

And there’s a free massage for every fifty miles you drive on a Louisiana highway. Shame about your shocks, though. At least it’s not every 20 miles as in Mississippi.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:31pm

Consumption Tax!

I WILL SCREW THE POORS THE BEST!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:37pm

re: #152 freetoken

EVERYBODY SHOULD PAY SOMETHING!!

Really? Even the infants??

HURR HURR OBAMA IS DUMPING $20 TRILLION DEBT ON THEM!!!!11!!!!

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Timothy Watson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:47pm

re: #154 jaunte

CUT ALL THE TAXXXXXES!!!

Except for on the poors, we need to raise theirs.

////

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:49pm

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

No more roads!

Where we’re going (if any of these guys become POTUS) we don’t need roads.

Because everything will be on fire.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:51:51pm

Huckabee guarantees an economic goose based on magic.

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calochortus  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:52:01pm

re: #148 Blind Frog Belly White

No, no! They just want to call you a lazy moocher. It works better for them that way.

After Mom passed away and the kids left home, I told a few people I was now a parasite on society. I learned I needed to judge my audience carefully for that line. A couple of them actually started to reassure me that I was still a valuable person. LOLOL.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:52:03pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:52:07pm

Huck trying to defend this national sales tax horseshit. Ugh.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:52:15pm

re: #155 lawhawk

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His response? Declare cyber war against China.

Someone stole Christie’s identity, but they sent it back.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:52:18pm

re: #163 Sophist C. Johnson

Where we’re going (if any of these guys become POTUS) we don’t need roads.

Because everything will be on fire.

I don’t care who y’are, that there’s funny.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:52:23pm
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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:52:28pm

re: #164 jaunte

Huckabee guarantees an economic goose based on magic.

Huckabee is a big believer in magic.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:52:37pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

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As in the goose laying the golden egg, no doubt.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:53:41pm

re: #159 Brian J.

And there’s a free massage for every fifty miles you drive on a Louisiana highway. Shame about your shocks, though. At least it’s not every 20 miles as in Mississippi.

Oh don’t remind me… Mississippi is the Tire Puncture State. Such beautiful countryside ruined by awful, ill-maintained, poorly signed roads. The exception is the Natchez Trace Parkway, but good luck finding the entrance if you miss the turn…

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:53:45pm

“Nobody obeys laws, we should get rid of them.”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:54:09pm
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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:54:35pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:54:41pm

Jindal wants to completely rid of the corporate tax. Yeah, that’ll make the country great!

I’m surprised they none of these clowns have advocated an implosion of the IRS building.

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:54:50pm

re: #137 calochortus

Let me understand this. I was a stay at home mom, married to the same man for 38 years now. I raised my kids, looked after my mother in her final years, still do the housework, much of the yard work and so forth, and the Republicans want to force me to go get a job at the age of 62?

No, they’ll just blame Democrats for your “inability” to find gainful employment.

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:55:00pm

The GOP has opposed making the Zadroga Act permanent. They’ve blocked making the Zadroga Act law in the first place. Now, they let it expire, and a House version slashed the benefit to 60% and limited the reauthorization to 5 years.

The GOP treats the 9/11 responders as disposable heroes. They keep dying and adding to the list of those killed in the attacks.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:55:18pm

I want to see all of these guys get out in the muddy countryside and try to build a road.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:55:29pm

re: #179 lawhawk

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The GOP has opposed making the Zadroga Act permanent. They’ve blocked making the Zadroga Act law in the first place. Now, they let it expire, and a House version slashed the benefit to 60% and limited the reauthorization to 5 years.

The GOP treats the 9/11 responders as disposable heroes. They keep dying and adding to the list of those killed in the attacks.

They’re not military, therefore, they’re not important.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:55:55pm

re: #164 jaunte

Huckabee guarantees an economic goose based on magic.

Huckabee guarantees an economic goose egg based on taxing everything that people buy.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:56:06pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

I’d say that’s about it.

And they want you to admit you’re a moocher in addition to voting for them. And don’t forget to donate a few bucks their way!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:56:15pm

re: #181 thedopefishlives

They’re not military, therefore, they’re not important.

Well, except when they kill unarmed black people.

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ObserverArt  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:56:21pm

re: #136 BeachDem

OK—Christie is an obnoxious, lying asshole, but he’s got to be thinking, “Keerist, do I REALLY have to debate Bobby Jindal, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum??”

Wasn’t he some kind of hot shit athlete in high school? If so, he knows you have to play the weak teams too.

Besides the level of debate from the main dudes isn’t any better. And from what I’ve seen, there is more discussion in the kids table debate. The big kids tend to go all food-fight and screaming who’s fault it is.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:56:40pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:56:58pm

re: #180 jaunte

I want to see all of these guys get out in the muddy countryside and try to build a road.

Christie has bridge-managment experience.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:57:00pm

re: #181 thedopefishlives

They’re not military, therefore, they’re not important.

Like the GOP gives a shit about military veterans. They refused to spend the money to expand VA facilities.

The only reason they “like” the military is to ramp-up jingoism so they can invade other countries and take the tax dollars of the poor and middle-class and give it to their sponsors in the military contractors.

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:57:02pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

Jindal wants to completely rid of the corporate tax. Yeah, that’ll make the country great!

I’m surprised they none of these clowns have advocated an implosion of the IRS building.

Jindal tried to slash and burn the tax system in LA - found that budget realities made it impossible. But not for lack of trying.

And every last one of these tax plans is intended to shift tax burdens on to the poor and those least able to afford them from corporations and the wealthy. Every last one of them.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:57:04pm
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:57:42pm
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calochortus  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:57:42pm

re: #178 Sophist C. Johnson

No, they’ll just blame Democrats for your “inability” to find gainful employment.

‘Cause if I’m not being paid, it’s not valuable work.

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sagehen  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:58:03pm

re: #179 lawhawk

The GOP has opposed making the Zadroga Act permanent. They’ve blocked making the Zadroga Act law in the first place. Now, they let it expire, and a House version slashed the benefit to 60% and limited the reauthorization to 5 years.

The GOP treats the 9/11 responders as disposable heroes. They keep dying and adding to the list of those killed in the attacks.

They’re mostly New Yorkers, other than maybe a few from New Jersey and Connecticut. Their Senators are Democrats. Therefore, not Real Americans.

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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:58:12pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

Wasn’t he some kind of hot shit athlete in high school? If so, he knows you have to play the weak teams too.

Besides the level of debate from the main dudes isn’t any better. And from what I’ve seen, there is more discussion in the kids table debate. The big kids tend to go all food-fight and screaming who’s fault it is.

But he has to listen to the whiny-ass voices of Jindal, Huckabee and Santorum (not to mention the rank idiocy coming out their pie-holes.)

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:58:33pm

re: #190 jaunte

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Well, there is a house in New Orleans…

And our debate is about to start between John Bel Edwards and Mr. Hard Times. Seriously, that was the name of the commercial Vitter launched yesterday.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:58:33pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:58:37pm

re: #191 Ace-o-aces

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And 47% of Americans are government moochers, isn’t that right, Mr. Romney?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:58:56pm

re: #193 sagehen

They’re mostly New Yorkers, other than maybe a few from New Jersey and Connecticut. Their Senators are Democrats. Therefore, not Real Americans.

New York City is really only part of the US every September 11th. Apart from that, it’s full of Those People.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:59:06pm

I want Europe to colonize America again. We’d get better government that way.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:59:11pm

Fox News Talk audio stream is going with the Je$u$ commercials.

Such gullible people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:59:33pm
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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 4:59:57pm

re: #190 jaunte

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My boss called today to talk about bidding a job in Louisiana. Could you all hear me screaming NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO without benefit of microphone?

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blueraven  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:00:10pm

Kill the FED!

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:00:39pm

The undercard - does it last 2 hours also??

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:00:49pm

AUDIT THE FED!

Drink.

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sagehen  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:01:03pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

New York City is really only part of the US every September 11th. Apart from that, it’s full of Those People.

“An island off the coast of America”
(apologies to Spalding Gray)

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:01:07pm

re: #169 thedopefishlives

I don’t care who y’are, that there’s funny.

Thanks for the kind words, however unmerited they might be.

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Tigger2  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:01:14pm

Audit the Fed Ron Paul lives.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:01:21pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:01:29pm

re: #202 BeachDem

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My boss called today to talk about bidding a job in Louisiana. Could you all hear me screaming NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO without benefit of microphone?

I’ll meetcha in the French Qtr!

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Timothy Watson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:01:33pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

AUDIT THE FED!

Drink.

Audit it for what? Are they hiding cash somewhere?

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:02:01pm

“Yes, we want the Fed to be more political, but on our side!”

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Blizard  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:02:16pm

re: #204 freetoken

The undercard - does it last 2 hours also??

Oh crap. We’re in it for that long tonight? I better get dinner going. Salmon with a red chili Thai sauce with sautéed spinach and mushrooms on the side.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:02:18pm

OBAMA IS OVERREGULATING AND SHUTTING DOWN THIS ECONOMY

I want the drugs they are on, they’re trippin’!

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:02:34pm
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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:02:42pm

re: #206 sagehen

“An island off the coast of America”
(apologies to Spalding Gray)

I’m the son of an immigrant and an islander, and damn proud of it!

Edwards and Vitter are both wearing flag pins, which isn’t a great sign. Debate is designed to encourage a dialogue, which I hope doesn’t entail endless screaming at each other.

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ObserverArt  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:02:45pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

Jindal wants to completely rid of the corporate tax. Yeah, that’ll make the country great!

I’m surprised they none of these clowns have advocated an implosion of the IRS building.

I think that would be one of those “on the first day” attacks. He’ll have his defense department move on that right off.

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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:02:46pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea Toujours

I’ll meetcha in the French Qtr!

If only—unfortunately, the project would include all areas of New Orleans EXCEPT the French Quarter. I didn’t even let him finish his first sentence.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:02:55pm

FAMMLY!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:03:12pm

still on the undercard, looks like?

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:03:12pm

BUT NOT TWO DADS!!!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:03:14pm

re: #204 freetoken

The undercard - does it last 2 hours also??

I thought it was only supposed to be one hour.

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WhatEVs  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:03:25pm

re: #181 thedopefishlives

They’re not military, therefore, they’re not important.

They voted against military salary increases and added funding to the VA. There are no heroes worthy of support to the GOP.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:03:32pm

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE DADS!!! MOAR DADS!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:03:42pm

janet yellen is jellin’

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:03:47pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

It appear this is a 5 hour total super-event.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:03:48pm

re: #212 jaunte

“Yes, we want the Fed to be more political, but on our side!”

Literally true, since they want the Fed to keep inflation low, and ignore unemployment. Inflation is bad for rentiers, and unemployment is good for employers.

Working folks? Fuck ‘em. If they were worth anything, they’d be rich by now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:04:17pm

Regulate the Fed instead of the banksters who nearly destroyed the economy

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:04:18pm

Huck babbling about tying the dollar to a commodity.

What the fuck.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:04:20pm

re: #215 Ace-o-aces

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Gold closed today at $1,089 an ounce, down over 40% since October 2011. Silver’s at $14.40, down 70% in that time.

Vitter says, “I’m very hands on. Hundreds, even thousands of people have my personal cell phone number,” thus digging the hole for himself immediately.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:04:26pm

GOLD STANDARD!!!

Drink.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:04:31pm

tie the dollar to the spanish doubloon

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:04:57pm

re: #231 teleskiguy

GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!GOLD!!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:05:03pm

re: #229 Lidane

Huck babbling about tying the dollar to a commodity.

What the fuck.

Squirrel bellies?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:05:10pm

Gotta Fairtaxer in my mentions. Jeebus these are the stupidest people on the planet.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:05:16pm

Huckabee pretending to care about poor people is sickening.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:05:29pm

re: #229 Lidane

Huck babbling about tying the dollar to a commodity.

What the fuck.

Does the GOP have a single policy-position that’s from after the 1970s?

Have they proposed repealing the 17th Amendment yet?

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:05:33pm

It’s a tongue bath, sane people see that from a mile away.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:06:11pm

re: #238 teleskiguy

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It’s a tongue bath, sane people see that from a mile away.

That would require Fox having someone who passed an economics or history class.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:06:35pm

Lets get back to the policies that created and exacerbated the Great Depression.

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calochortus  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:06:35pm

re: #231 teleskiguy

GOLD STANDARD!!!

Drink.

So, every time the value of gold changes, we need to reprice goods and services? That sounds good.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:06:44pm

In the 1950’s the VA was great, when the top marginal tax rate was….

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:06:51pm

Same ol’ song and dance.

Aerosmith - Same Old Song And Dance (Lyrics)

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:07:09pm

re: #237 Timothy Watson

Does the GOP have a single policy-position that’s from after the 1970s?

Nope.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:07:11pm

… root canal… broken car…. AND NO FOODSTAMPS FOR YOU!!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:07:16pm

each gooper should be assigned to savage at least one other gooper

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:07:37pm

Santorum want to privatize the VA.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:07:40pm

“Replace the VA with centers for excellence.” Yes, a real quote from butt froth.

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ObserverArt  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:07:43pm

re: #194 BeachDem

But he has to listen to the whiny-ass voices of Jindal, Huckabee and Santorum (not to mention the rank idiocy coming out their pie-holes.)

Beach…is it really any different than having to listen to Carson, Trump, Rubio, Bush, Cruz, Fiorina, Kasich or Paul?

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WhatEVs  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:08:01pm

re: #230 Brian J.

Gold closed today at $1,089 an ounce, down over 40% since October 2011. Silver’s at $14.40, down 70% in that time.

Vitter says, “I’m very hands on. Hundreds, even thousands of people have my personal cell phone number,” thus digging the hole for himself immediately.

Vitter? Is he in the debate or moderating or what?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:08:04pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:08:34pm

re: #240 Big Beautiful Door

Lets get back to the policies that created and exacerbated the Great Depression.

trump will bring back the smoot hawley tariff

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Blizard  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:08:37pm

Is there a ‘clap light’ that’s flashing for the audience?

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:09:10pm

Pulling out my favorite nopes.

Ah, fuck no.
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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:09:13pm

Oh noes… we’re getting less militaristic.

Oh, the tragedy.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:09:17pm

re: #250 WhatEVs

Vitter? Is he in the debate or moderating or what?

This is from Louisiana’s gubernatorial debate, which just started on the hour. Vitter was answering the first question, about his governing style.

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calochortus  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:09:18pm

re: #253 Blizard

Is there a ‘clap light’ that’s flashing for the audience?

They’re applauding the clap?

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:09:42pm

This talk about veterans rings so fucking hollow, it’s disgusting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:10:15pm

re: #257 calochortus

They’re applauding the clap?

I was thinking ‘clap light’ meant a milder form of gonorrhea.

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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:10:28pm

re: #249 ObserverArt

Beach…is it really any different than having to listen to Carson, Trump, Rubio, Bush, Cruz, Fiorina, Kasich or Paul?

Well, you do have a point. They are all like fingernails on blackboards—and that’s before they even start talking. Christ on a cracker, they are a pathetic bunch of morons.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:10:32pm

America is exceptional, and we are so poor we are about to go broke, just like Greece!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:10:32pm

re: #218 BeachDem

If only—unfortunately, the project would include all areas of New Orleans EXCEPT the French Quarter. I didn’t even let him finish his first sentence.

“Hey, how’d you like to get shot for Christmas?”

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:10:40pm

Christie just implied that Obama and Clinton hates America, the military, law enforcement. These fuckers are high.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:10:59pm

Wow, Vitter is desperate to establish his credentials. Try to imagine a Louisiana Republican speaking positively of working on bills with Barbara Boxer.

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:11:17pm

re: #192 calochortus

‘Cause if I’m not being paid, it’s not valuable work.

You’re part of Romney’s 47%, you big ol’ moocher, you. Only people who make enough income to be taxable contribute to this country and its economy.

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bratwurst  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:11:32pm

re: #263 teleskiguy

Christie just implied that Obama and Clinton hates America, the military, law enforcement. These fuckers are high.

Christie is meant to be one of the more sane guys in either debate and he is going for the “Obama doesn’t support our troops” applause line. Unreal.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:11:32pm

re: #258 teleskiguy

This talk about veterans rings so fucking hollow, it’s disgusting.

Jindal bragging about handing out medals was so transparently cynical I felt bile rise up in my throat.

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:11:43pm
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calochortus  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:12:04pm

re: #265 Sophist C. Johnson

You’re part of Romney’s 47%, you big ol’ moocher, you. Only people who make enough income to be taxable contribute to this country and its economy.

Hangs head in shame.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:12:13pm

re: #266 bratwurst

Christie is meant to be one of the more sane guys in either debate and he is going for the “Obama doesn’t support our troops” applause line. Unreal.

Christie is trying to get back on the main stage by presenting himself as focused on the Democrats and as the most electable guy on the stage.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:12:48pm

I see these guys are going for 1st Chairborne vote.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:12:49pm

re: #268 jaunte

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In the “the sheriff is near!” sense, I take it?

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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:13:12pm

re: #268 jaunte

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I don’t know who that guy is, but I love his avatar.

Also, I think I just saw Flounder in the audience.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:13:41pm

I wish we could plant a ridiculously racist crazy person in these Deflates just to troll.

“You know what nobody is talking about here? The GREATEST. THREAT. TO AMERICA.”
(everybody looks at crazy guy)
“Why, the Chiya-neese! With all their slanty eyes and funny picture writing. Oh sure, they build a good railroad, but can we trust em? I SAY SEND ‘EM ALL BACK TO VIETNAM!!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:13:50pm

re: #261 Big Beautiful Door

America is exceptional, and we are so poor we are about to go broke, just like Greece!

And it’s an unremitting hellhole of violence and poverty, of division and hatred, where you’re in constant danger of being raped and murdered - not necessarily in that order - by roving hordes of … well, you know, and our military is so weak we’re in danger of being overrun by unarmed Latinos !

And the greatest nation on earth!!! A shining beacon to all!!

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:14:13pm

Maybe we’ll get more action in the main event.

We can only hope that Trump calls out Carson for the latter’s violent youth and the lies in the Carson story.

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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:15:04pm

re: #275 Blind Frog Belly White

And it’s an unremitting hellhole of violence and poverty, of division and hatred, where you’re in constant danger of being raped and murdered - not necessarily in that order - by roving hordes of … well, you know, and our military is so weak we’re in danger of being overrun by unarmed Latinos !

And the greatest nation on earth!!! A shining beacon to all!!

Please don’t mention the roving hordes—that was Lindsey Graham’s line and he’s so sad that he can’t even sit at the kiddie table.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:15:05pm

GUBMINT GOTTA GO! WORKING FAMILIES! THINK OF THE CHILDREN! AMERICAN DREAM! BOOTSTRAPS! DEMONCRATS! ISIS! VLADIMIR PUTIN! MOAR CHILDREN!

The closing statements, in a nutshell.

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:15:14pm

What I heard during Christie’s statment:

” I meant what I said, and I said what I meant. An elephant’s faithful one-hundred percent.”

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Blizard  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:15:18pm

Yeah I’m gonna cook dinner real quick.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:15:26pm

No, Huck, you’re not running for President. You’re running for your Fox talk show gravy train.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:15:58pm

re: #276 freetoken

I think Trump should ignore Carson. Carson is lighting himself on fire, Jeb? is Jeb?, so Trump should go after Rubio or Cruz.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:16:22pm

re: #276 freetoken

Maybe we’ll get more action in the main event.

We can only hope that Trump calls out Carson for the latter’s violent youth and the lies in the Carson story.

Then Carson pulls out his pearl-handled scalpel and performs a Trumpectomy.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:16:36pm

re: #282 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

It’s Jeb!, not Jeb?

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:16:45pm

re: #282 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I think Trump should ignore Carson. Carson is lighting himself on fire, Jeb? is Jeb?, so Trump should go after Rubio or Cruz.

I’d love to see Trump go birther on Canada Ted

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:17:00pm
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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:17:07pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:17:30pm

My campaign to return Louisiana to Europe begins now.

#ReverseThePurchase
#NobodyExpectsTheSpanishUnCession

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:17:43pm

re: #285 Big Beautiful Door

I’d love to see Trump go birther on Canada Ted

Then Ted does the “laying on of hands”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:17:53pm
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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:17:55pm

re: #279 Lidane

What I heard during Christie’s statment:

” I meant what I said, and I said what I meant. An elephant’s faithful one-hundred percent.”

I also heard an undertone of:

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.”

And when they attempt math, I hear:

The different branches of Arithmetic — Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:18:00pm

re: #288 Pawn of the Oppressor

My campaign to return Louisiana to Europe begins now.

#ReverseThePurchase
#NobodyExpectsTheSpanishUnCession

Louisiana: The Quebec of the United States.

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:18:50pm

re: #232 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

tie the dollar to the spanish doubloon

No country on the Beanie Baby standard has ever suffered serious inflation OR deflation.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:18:55pm

re: #287 jaunte

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She was right. With our military, no foreign opponent represents a significant threat to the US. Only the GOP threatens to destroy us from the inside.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:18:56pm

re: #284 freetoken

It’s Jeb!, not Jeb?

When’s the last time a Jeb? transcript included an exclamation point?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:19:12pm
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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:19:30pm

The pancake makeup talking heads will now tell us something important.

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teleskiguy  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:19:40pm
299
The Vicious Babushka  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:20:10pm

HURR HURR TEH POORS DON’T PAY THERE FAIR SHARE11

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:20:11pm

re: #288 Pawn of the Oppressor

My campaign to return Louisiana to Europe begins now.

#ReverseThePurchase
#NobodyExpectsTheSpanishUnCession

Works for me, even if I have to learn a new language. Hopefully, it’ll be a country that has amusing punishments for Vitter, Jindal and Cassidy.

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whitebeach  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:20:13pm

re: #195 Brian J.

Where y’at, homes?

Vitter has already twice called himself “very hands-on,” possibly not the most felicitous phrasing in the circumstances.

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:20:24pm

re: #234 Decatur Deb

Squirrel bellies?

Spork futures.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:21:03pm

re: #301 whitebeach

Where y’at, homes?

Vitter has already twice called himself “very hands-on,” possibly not the most felicitous phrasing in the circumstances.

Monroe, Louisiana. If Hillary puts our state in play, it’ll be a very big night for Democrats.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:21:08pm

re: #298 teleskiguy

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I prefer real time fact checking, and at the first lie they’re dropped through a trap door into Dr. Evil’s flaming pit.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:21:21pm

What do we get now, an hour of royal eunuchs making sense of that?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:21:26pm

re: #300 Brian J.

Can you imagine the price of the bride?

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:21:59pm

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR TEH POORS DON’T PAY THERE FAIR SHARE11

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Except for payroll tax, gasoline tax, “sin” taxes, sales taxes, car taxes, licensing fees, most of which are regressive.

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lawhawk  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:22:34pm

Nailed it:

Even the right wing extremists see how awful these candidates are.

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Brian J.  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:22:46pm

re: #304 Blind Frog Belly White

I prefer real time fact checking, and at the first lie they’re dropped through a trap door into Dr. Evil’s flaming pit.

Trump won’t have to worry about a long debate in that case! And did he ever get the sharks with freaking laser beams?

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jaunte  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:22:57pm
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sagehen  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:23:02pm

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR TEH POORS DON’T PAY THERE FAIR SHARE11

Since they’ve got less than 4% of the income, that does seem fair.

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freetoken  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:23:07pm

So, all this is really about Murdoch furthering his business called “Fox”, we all know that.

In no sense is this a “real debate” like Krauthammer just exclaimed.

A real debate makes people exposit on their position and demonstrate why the opponents’ positions are in error.

But that is not what these shows are about.

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Sophist C. Johnson  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:23:10pm

re: #238 teleskiguy

Kind of surprised that Fox Business has no follow ups to these very unorthodox monetary answers.

Asking candidates to provide a basic defense of their policies is a gotcha question, doncha know?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:23:19pm

re: #304 Blind Frog Belly White

I prefer real time fact checking, and at the first lie they’re dropped through a trap door into Dr. Evil’s flaming pit.

How’s this: No signal, just put up a graphic that only the audience can see and watch the liar try to figure out the snickering. Sort of like that live tweet Trump skit on SNL.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:23:43pm

re: #309 Brian J.

Trump won’t have to worry about a long debate in that case! And did he ever get the sharks with freaking laser beams?

“I’m not dead, but I am very badly burned!”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:24:12pm

re: #300 Brian J.

Works for me, even if I have to learn a new language. Hopefully, it’ll be a country that has amusing punishments for Vitter, Jindal and Cassidy.

Cheaper direct flights to Paris. Health care, pensions, and a shorter work week. Improved roads. Less corrupt administration. And a coupon for One Free Annual Riot. What’s not to like?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:24:30pm

re: #308 lawhawk

Maybe she’s on meds now (we can only hope…..)

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fern01  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:25:02pm

re: #137 calochortus

Let me understand this. I was a stay at home mom, married to the same man for 38 years now. I raised my kids, looked after my mother in her final years, still do the housework, much of the yard work and so forth, and the Republicans want to force me to go get a job at the age of 62?

Yes - and work until you die

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Lidane  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:27:03pm

re: #305 Decatur Deb

What do we get now, an hour of royal eunuchs making sense of that?

Yep. The next debate isn’t for an hour.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:27:46pm

re: #319 Lidane

Yep. The next debate isn’t for an hour.

Shit, and I’ve been pacing myself.

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whitebeach  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:28:21pm

re: #303 Brian J.

Monroe, Louisiana. If Hillary puts our state in play, it’ll be a very big night for Democrats.

Bossier Parish currently but have lived in NO, Shreveport, and longest in Baton Rouge. I pray our state could tilt to Hillary, but face it , we couldn’t even hang onto Mary Landrieu.

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BeachDem  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:31:47pm

Kaili Joy Gray’s live-blog was hilarious—my favorite line:

You know who won the debate? Jim Gilmore.

wonkette.com

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:44:26pm

re: #297 freetoken

The pancake makeup talking heads will now tell us something important.

Well, it’s all kabuki anyways, so the makeup is sort of appropriate.

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TedStriker  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:57:50pm

re: #18 thedopefishlives

Is that his idea of a fair tax? Did he miss Economics 101 where the concepts of progressive and regressive taxation were covered?

I don’t think he (or anyone else on the dais) really gives a shit.

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TedStriker  Nov 10, 2015 • 5:59:27pm

re: #38 thedopefishlives

Yeah, my macro professor was very explicit in explaining how flat sales taxes screw over poor people disproportionately. It is literally the textbook definition of a regressive tax.

A feature, not a bug.


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