Portia Boulger’s Attorney Demands Retraction From Trump Jr. for Defamatory Tweet

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One of our most popular articles in the past week was our exposé of Donald Trump Jr.’s retweet of a false accusation against Bernie Sanders supporter Portia Boulger; Trump Jr. cited a white supremacist scumbag to accuse Boulger of masquerading as a Trump supporter giving a Nazi salute outside his father’s rally at the University of Illinois at Chicago: Donald Trump Jr. Retweets a White Supremacist Making a False Accusation.

The photo in question:

E. Jason Wambsgans / Chicago Tribune

Donald Trump Jr.’s tweet (now deleted):

Today we learned that Portia Boulger’s attorney is demanding an apology and retraction from Donald Trump Jr. for this defamatory accusation. LGF contributor “Skip Intro” provides us with the screenshots of Boulger’s letter to Donald Trump Jr.:

(Images via The Women’s Watch.)

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130 comments

1
Great White Snark  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:23:58pm

“I only know what I see on the internet”
D. Trump 2016

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:24:55pm

You gotta love how they’re throwing their own supporter the bus. Nice one Trump Jr.

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:27:02pm

If Jr. doesn’t, I hope she can back up the Brinks Truck outside the tower.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:28:26pm

I can just hear Trump “retracting” this in that whiny, nasal, smarmy voice of his. It makes me want to do something that Donald is nostalgic for.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:28:40pm

Assuming this is a situation when the blue check mark doesn’t work for you.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:28:43pm

Are these images legit?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:30:17pm

re: #6 Nyet

Are these images legit?

The lady doing the Nazi salute appears to have been photographed by the Chicago Tribune.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:31:30pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

The lady doing the Nazi salute appears to have been photographed by the Chicago Tribune.

I’m asking about the images above. Can’t find them online.

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:31:58pm

re: #6 Nyet

Are these images legit?

Yeah, two different fonts on the different pages. JPEG artefacts are supposed to be there, they tend to happen compressing B/W.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:32:12pm

re: #8 Nyet

I’m asking about the images above. Can’t find them online.

Oh my bad.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:32:26pm

OK, this over at Balloon Juice made me laugh. It’s a proposal for Clinton to unite the party by getting behind a common enemy: Daylight Savings Time. Her speech could start with:

“When that three AM phone call comes, your president should have the experience, knowledge and wisdom to face any emergency. But most of all, she should be confident that it is actually three AM, not four AM or two AM. As Americans, I don’t think this is too much to ask!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:33:33pm

re: #11 Belafon

OK, this over at Balloon Juice made me laugh. It’s a proposal for Clinton to unite the party by getting behind a common enemy: Daylight Savings Time. Her speech could start with:

That’d be an idea. I hate having to set my watch again. I didn’t even reset it after Fall Back. Just waited until Sunday morning when we sprung forward and all was right again.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:33:45pm

re: #8 Nyet

I’m asking about the images above. Can’t find them online.

If you follow enough links: chicagotribune.com

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:34:25pm

re: #9 Teukka

Yeah, two different fonts on the different pages. JPEG artefacts are supposed to be there, they tend to happen compressing B/W.

Hmm.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:35:19pm

re: #13 Belafon

If you follow enough links: chicagotribune.com

I don’t see the letter at your link.

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:35:35pm

re: #14 Nyet

Hmm.

(TL;DR explanation available on request)

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:36:42pm

re: #16 Teukka

Lawyery thing?

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b.d.  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:36:51pm

Trump doesn’t settle! Ever! Take this to the Supreme Court and wait for Donald to appoint Scalia’s replacement!

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:38:08pm

re: #17 Nyet

Lawyery thing?

Nah. Based on technology and the method of compression used for JPEG images.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:38:53pm

re: #19 Teukka

Nah. Based on technology and the method of compression used for JPEG images.

Dunno whether you noticed the bolded part of my comment.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:39:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:39:25pm

re: #6 Nyet

Are these images legit?

She retweeted it:

Portia A. Boulger’s TL at twitter.com

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:39:35pm
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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:40:11pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:40:36pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Go Portia. Nail them to the wall.

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:40:38pm

re: #20 Nyet

Dunno whether you noticed the bolded part of my comment.

*DERP* *FACEPALAM*

Well, it can be a couple of alternatives… One is that the document is made to use different fonts on different pages (basically bad template), the other is that it is fake.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:41:20pm

re: #24 Nyet

Uh. I did check this before posting.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:41:33pm

Ironic that its Trump who wants to liberalize defamation laws to make it easier for him to sue reporters. Since Ms. Boulger isn’t a public figure she doesn’t have a very high bar to clear to successfully sue for defamation.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:41:35pm

re: #26 Teukka

Has already been confirmed, so a bad template.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:41:36pm

As I always do.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:42:59pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Uh. I did check this before posting.

You have sourced the images to Skip Intro:

Today we learned that Portia Boulger’s attorney is demanding an apology and retraction from Donald Trump Jr. for this defamatory accusation. LGF contributor “Skip Intro” provides us with the screenshots of Boulger’s letter to Donald Trump Jr.:

There is no other link in the post.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:43:03pm

Wait for Trump (in his nasal, whiny, smarmy stubby fingered voice) to announce that he will “sue her back” and he “is winning”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:43:37pm

re: #31 Nyet

Hey, I understand. I just might try to pull a fast one sometime. Better keep an eye on me.

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:43:53pm

re: #29 Nyet

Has already been confirmed, so a bad template.

Yep. However, won’t prevent the “Consperaceees!”

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:44:32pm

I’m sorry I didn’t include a link but there is no doubt whatsoever that is legit.

I do feel sorry for the shitstorm of hate that’s going to fall on this woman for demanding an apology from Adolph Jr.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:45:08pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Hey, I understand. I just might try to pull a fast one sometime. Better keep an eye on me.

Sorry, you have not provided a source so I asked for one. Hopefully it’s not a crime.

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gocart mozart  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:45:58pm
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Great White Snark  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:46:02pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

What has gotten me is I buy a clock radio. It has DST built in. Right in the chip. They change the date for the time changes and the damn thing resets itself on the wrong dates. Probably outta toss the old thing and just use my cell phone.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:46:19pm

The Pixel’s are different Sizes!

(random Capitalization and the odd apostrophe seem to be common Wingnut practice, so I will be including them in my wingnut font message’s.)

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:46:45pm

re: #35 Skip Intro

I’m sorry I didn’t include a link but there is no doubt whatsoever that is legit.

I do feel sorry for the shitstorm of hate that’s going to fall on this woman for demanding an apology from Adolph Jr.

She’s already had to deal with “attempting to frame Trump as a Nazi.” I suspect she’s good at ignoring this stuff.

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gocart mozart  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:46:57pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:47:34pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

What you talkin’ about Charles?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:48:27pm

re: #38 Great White Snark

What has gotten me is I buy a clock radio. It has DST built in. Right in the chip. They change the date for the time changes and the damn thing resets itself on the wrong dates. Probably outta toss the old thing and just use my cell phone.

Yeah the cell phones automatically switch. They also switch when you change time zones. Nice trick. The radio you should keep though. I mean may not work for the clock purpose but probably can still listen to tunes on it.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:48:31pm

re: #38 Great White Snark

I have a Sony with that type of time keeping. It does a good job. amazon.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:49:44pm

re: #41 gocart mozart

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You’re refusing the President’s nominee a hearing because of fictional bullshit about a tradition that doesn’t exist. Why don’t you go kiss and make up with your even bigger racist father who hates you for trying to stealing his thunder with the Confederate wing of the Republican Party.

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:50:06pm

re: #41 gocart mozart

Dear Senator Paul,

As a voter and US citizen, I look forward to Republicans making their views known on the SOCTUS nomination through the normal process of hearings and votes.

If you aren’t going to do that, then stand aside for someone that will do the job they are elected to do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:50:37pm
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Belafon  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:51:01pm

re: #38 Great White Snark

What has gotten me is I buy a clock radio. It has DST built in. Right in the chip. They change the date for the time changes and the damn thing resets itself on the wrong dates. Probably outta toss the old thing and just use my cell phone.

How old is it? Is it older than when they changed the DST rules in 2005?

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gocart mozart  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:52:36pm
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CuriousLurker  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:52:36pm

*blows whistle* Okay, time out for a kitteh pic:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:53:30pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sigh. That shit again.

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gocart mozart  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:53:35pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:53:46pm

re: #38 Great White Snark

What has gotten me is I buy a clock radio. It has DST built in. Right in the chip. They change the date for the time changes and the damn thing resets itself on the wrong dates. Probably outta toss the old thing and just use my cell phone.

I had a Sirius TTR1 that automatically adjusted the time. Worked great for four years, the there was a firmware update I had to download. After that download, it immediately failed. Now I have a Grace Digital that works fine. It also has a backup battery that sure came in handy when we had overnight power failures. Every couple months it has firmware updates that add or delete new options. The last firmware removed Live 365 which was forced out of business over streaming royalty changes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:54:01pm

re: #37 gocart mozart

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The Republicans basically have no choice except to place a hold on Garland’s nomination at least until after the election. They have told their Base that allowing Obama to replace Scalia signals the end of freedom and the start of totalitarian oppression during which every gun will be seized and every church shuttered. If Hillary wins in November and the Democrats gain control of the Senate, they might pragmatically confirm Garland during the lame duck session to deny Hillary the opportunity to appoint a progressive Justice.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:54:43pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

I know what you mean.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:54:49pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

And Grassley voted against him.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:55:29pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

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The then Republican governor of Oklahoma praised him too. Inholfe praised him. Obama did his job. He picked someone that many Republicans are on record as having praised. I really don’t think the whole “tradition” thing is going to hold water as more and more senators up for re-election see that this pathetic little stunt is costing them. That’s interesting though. I didn’t know these two were cousins.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:55:43pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Yeah the cell phones automatically switch. They also switch when you change time zones. Nice trick. The radio you should keep though. I mean may not work for the clock purpose but probably can still listen to tunes on it.

You can do that on your phone as well.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:56:34pm

re: #36 Nyet

Sorry, you have not provided a source so I asked for one. Hopefully it’s not a crime.

No, it isn’t a crime.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:56:44pm

re: #54 Big Beautiful Door

The Republicans basically have no choice except to place a hold on Garland’s nomination at least until after the election. They have told their Base that allowing Obama to replace Scalia signals the end of freedom and the start of totalitarian oppression during which every gun will be seized and every church shuttered. If Hillary wins in November and the Democrats gain control of the Senate, they might pragmatically confirm Garland during the lame duck session to deny Hillary the opportunity to appoint a progressive Justice.

And that honestly would be her right even though they’ll howl like the howling shit monkeys they are if she were to do that. I have no sympathy at all for the GOP’s establishment being in the predicament they’re in. Instead of calling out the base’s pathetic hatred of Obama, they’ve enabled it and made it worse.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:57:00pm

bach: english sweets

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Amory Blaine  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:57:03pm

I saw at least 4 stylish hats floating around downtown tonight due to the high winds.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:57:17pm

re: #58 Big Beautiful Door

You can do that on your phone as well.

Yeah you’re right. Pandora I think is one of the radio apps.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:57:32pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

No, it isn’t a crime.

Nor is it an accusation of pulling a fast one. Glad we cleared that up.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:58:29pm

re: #53 Joe Bacon

I had a Sirius TTR1 that automatically adjusted the time. Worked great for four years, the there was a firmware update I had to download. After that download, it immediately failed. Now I have a Grace Digital that works fine. It also has a backup battery that sure came in handy when we had overnight power failures. Every couple months it has firmware updates that add or delete new options. The last firmware removed Live 365 which was forced out of business over streaming royalty changes.

I have an old clock radio under my bed in a tub. I guess I’ll check to see if it works when the power goes out in the Apocalypse.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:58:58pm

re: #64 Nyet

Better keep an eye on me, though. You never know.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 6:59:24pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Better keep an eye on me, though. You never know.

*shrug*

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Amory Blaine  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:00:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:00:13pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:01:02pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

And that honestly would be her right even though they’ll howl like the howling shit monkeys they are if she were to do that. I have no sympathy at all for the GOP’s establishment being in the predicament they’re in. Instead of calling out the base’s pathetic hatred of Obama, they’ve enabled it and made it worse.

Exactly, now they are having to eat the shit sandwich they made. Its dawning on them now that a cartoonishly evil tv character is going to be their nominee for President, and all they can do is pray they wake up and find out it was only a nightmare.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:01:06pm

re: #65 Stanley Sea

I only have 3 devices that don’t auto-adjust for DST: my oven, my microwave, and my RAV4. Everything else (including my watch) auto-adjusts for DST.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:01:30pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Yeah you’re right. Pandora I think is one of the radio apps.

And iheart radio, and sirius.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:01:40pm

re: #50 CuriousLurker

*blows whistle* Okay, time out for a kitteh pic:

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Feline UFO invades kitchen and abducts all the tuna while leaving request that the dog be probed.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:02:28pm

re: #56 The Mountain That Blogs

And Grassley voted against him.

Voted being the key word. He’s refusing even that now.

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Cheechako  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:02:42pm

re: #54 Big Beautiful Door

The Republicans basically have no choice except to place a hold on Garland’s nomination at least until after the election. They have told their Base that allowing Obama to replace Scalia signals the end of freedom and the start of totalitarian oppression during which every gun will be seized and every church shuttered. If Hillary wins in November and the Democrats gain control of the Senate, they might pragmatically confirm Garland during the lame duck session to deny Hillary the opportunity to appoint a progressive Justice.

If Hillary wins in November and the Democrats gain control of the Senate expect Judge Ginsberg to retire early in Hillarys first term.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:03:02pm

re: #72 Big Beautiful Door

And iheart radio, and sirius.

Spotify if you want to listen to genres or artists.

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Great White Snark  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:04:20pm

re: #48 Belafon

Yeah. Never quit so….

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Joe Bacon  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:04:29pm

7PM and it’s still 80 here in Los Angeles.

Yet Idiot Inhofe says that there is no such thing as Global Warming…

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teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:04:34pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

The Onion doesn’t have this article archived at their website, but I found it elsewhere.

As published in The Onion eons ago:

Walken in LA: Hot Dogs

By Christopher Walken

Do you enjoy eating hot dogs? I hope you won’t be put off by my frankness when I tell you that I absolutely love them. In fact, I enjoy no food item more than a freshly-boiled hot dog. Now, I’ve done a lot of movies, and it’s true that I’ve worked with quite a few celebrities who did not share this opinion. I’m sorry to say that these people have always angered me.

There are two types of people in this world: those who eat hot dogs whenever it is possible to do so, and those who opt to do other things with their free time. Who do the latter think they are kidding? What pastime could be more rewarding than the consumption of hot dogs? I haven’t yet found one, and I don’t expect to in my lifetime. Unlike other foods, hot dogs can be eaten at any time, in any place, and it is not necessary to cook them. Now, I ask you: Why not eat hot dogs? They are delicious.

I carry a bag of hot dogs with me wherever I go. I eat them from the bag whenever I get the urge, regardless of the circumstances. When I make a movie, my hot dogs are my co-stars. If, in the middle of a scene, I decide I want to consume a hot dog, I do so. I waste the director’s time and thousands of dollars in film stock, but in the end, it is all worth it, because I enjoy eating hot dogs more than I enjoy acting. This bothers some people. I was supposed to portray Batman, but when Tim Burton learned of my hot dog cravings, he asked Michael Keaton to wear the cape. To this day, I am peeved about this.

When we filmed The Dead Zone, I ate over 800 hot dogs a day. It was necessary. My character needed to come across as intense as possible, and I found the inspiration for that intensity in my intense love for hot dogs. The director, David Cronenberg, said that he would never work with me again. I kept eating hot dogs when the cameras were rolling, and that seemed to bother him. I say fuck him. He doesn’t even like hot dogs.

I would like to end by emphasizing once again that I really like to eat hot dogs. If any of you people disagree, I loathe you. I despise you. Not only that, but I also despise all your loved ones. I want to see them torn to pieces by wild dogs. If I ever meet you in person, I’ll smash your brains in with a fucking bat. Then we’ll see who doesn’t like hot dogs.

Next week: My thoughts on Woody Allen, hot dog hater and shitty director.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:05:15pm

re: #74 CuriousLurker

Voted being the key word. He’s refusing even that now.

Right. Grassley has been on record as refusing to even give Obama’s pick a vote. That they’re refusing this is shitty as hell. Even Bork got to be voted on.

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danarchy  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:06:16pm

re: #76 Belafon

Spotify if you want to listen to genres or artists.

And then there is Slacker and TuneIn.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:06:31pm

re: #75 Cheechako

If Hillary wins in November and the Democrats gain control of the Senate expect Judge Ginsberg to retire early in Hillarys first term.

Might Breyer retire too? I don’t see Roberts, Alito, and Thomas going anywhere. All are relatively young. Roberts did have some health scares be appears to be alright.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:06:39pm

niterz, lizardz!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:06:39pm

re: #75 Cheechako

If Hillary wins in November and the Democrats gain control of the Senate expect Judge Ginsberg to retire early in Hillarys first term.

Its entirely up to her. In that scenario she should pragmatically resign no later than 2018 because the Senate will likely go back to the GOP in the midterms, sigh.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:06:47pm

re: #71 Eric The Fruit Bat

I only have 3 devices that don’t auto-adjust for DST: my oven, my microwave, and my RAV4. Everything else (including my watch) auto-adjusts for DST.

I have a Russian-made dive watch that winds up and moves its hands by twirling a stem. Bought it from the trunk of a car in Turkey for 15.00 in 1991. It’s my time-zone hopper fix.

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Nyet  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:09:42pm

So the guy from these videos who goes under the superhero name “Green Vitriol” has been identified and kicked out of university:

Зеленый Купорос (2014)

Зеленый Купорос 2: Безликие Ублюдки

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:11:01pm

Speaking of RBG, I was reading some about her work as a private attorney. I had no idea. What a pioneer in so many ways. She fought to get a widower’s SSI money for a man who lost his wife in childbirth. She’s still friends with the family today. The man’s son later got into Columbia Law. And she later officiated the father’s marriage a few years ago.
mentalfloss.com

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CuriousLurker  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:11:19pm

re: #65 Stanley Sea

I have an old clock radio under my bed in a tub. I guess I’ll check to see if it works when the power goes out in the Apocalypse.

I have a cool Sony clock I bought about five years ago that’s solar powered and (supposedly) uses a radio signal to sync with the atomic clock in Denver and account for DST as long as you have your time zone set, but I’ve never gotten it to work properly. It was nice to have during hurricane Sandy though.

Oh, and the alarm isn’t loud enough to wake me, so now my iPod Touch sits on the table by my bed and functions as a $350 alarm clock. *sigh*

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stpaulbear  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:11:30pm

re: #44 PhillyPretzel

I have a Sony with that type of time keeping. It does a good job. amazon.com

I have that same clock as a dual alarm and the thing is always 12 minutes fast. It switched to daylight savings time, but it’s still wrong. I’ve got a Sony undercounter CD/radio in the kitchen, and that one always runs seven minutes slow.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:11:33pm

re: #54 Big Beautiful Door

The Republicans basically have no choice except to place a hold on Garland’s nomination at least until after the election. They have told their Base that allowing Obama to replace Scalia signals the end of freedom and the start of totalitarian oppression during which every gun will be seized and every church shuttered. If Hillary wins in November and the Democrats gain control of the Senate, they might pragmatically confirm Garland during the lame duck session to deny Hillary the opportunity to appoint a progressive Justice.

That’s where the cynicism is coming in, as all those Republicans up for reelection are “breaking ranks,” but none are actually demanding a vote, just voicing a willingness to meet with Garland. It’s a calculated ploy to save their asses, feigning cooperation and bipartisanship when they have no intention of actually forcing a vote, which will disappear into the aether if Trump wins and/or the GOP retains the Senate majority come November. If they lose both, then you’ll see a sudden rush to get a vote on Garland before the President can yank back the nomination.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:11:37pm

This is getting really tedious.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:12:54pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This is getting really tedious.

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They’re desperate because they know Sanders is finished. Grasping at straws.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:13:16pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This is getting really tedious.

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Yeah I saw, agh.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:13:29pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This is getting really tedious.

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It’s generally the sign of a candidate who knows they can’t win, trying to bend or break the rules to give them a fighting chance. What it tells me is that the Sanders camp has run the numbers and sees no hope in winning the delegates outright, so they’re going to either have to steal them or find some fashion of bringing the superdelegates over to their camp.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:13:36pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

They’re desperate because they know Sanders is finished. Grasping at straws.

What’s the next step of grief?

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Cheechako  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:13:38pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Might Breyer retire too? I don’t see Roberts, Alito, and Thomas going anywhere. All are relatively young. Roberts did have some health scares be appears to be alright.

Bryer might also retire which adds to the significance of the up-coming election. If by chance if dTrump wins the election I think Ginsberg and Breyer will hang on till they croak on the job.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:14:31pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

What’s the next step of grief?

Trying to push a “unity ticket” in order to ensure that Sanders’ supporters don’t sit out the election.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:14:49pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This is getting really tedious.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:15:16pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

What’s the next step of grief?

Heavy drinking.

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b_sharp  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:15:24pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

I have a Russian-made dive watch that winds up and moves its hands by twirling a stem. Bought it from the trunk of a car in Turkey for 15.00 in 1991. It’s my time-zone hopper fix.

Old school.
I have a couple in a box somewhere.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:15:46pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This is getting really tedious.

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Clinton’s delegates are going to be picked from Clinton supporters. If any were to switch, they wouldn’t be called back to do anything else with the party. And it’s not like that would be surprising. Imagine what would happen if a pledged Sanders delegate were to announce they’d rather vote for Clinton.

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Brian J.  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:16:06pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

They’re desperate because they know Sanders is finished. Grasping at straws.

I thought Bernie Sanders had turned rather Trumpisch over the last few weeks; now he’s turning into Ben Carson, with a campaign fueled by an “inspirational” story, naked greed, and complete incoherence. What’s in the Pyramids, Bernie?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:16:22pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

It’s generally the sign of a candidate who knows they can’t win, trying to bend or break the rules to give them a fighting chance. What it tells me is that the Sanders camp has run the numbers and sees no hope in winning the delegates outright, so they’re going to either have to steal them or find some fashion of bringing the superdelegates over to their camp.

It’s too bad. I respect the hell out of Robert Reich. He does nice videos explaining al ot of fairly complex concepts in layman’s terms but he’s not doing himself any favors by telling the Bernie backers their guy still has a chance. I mean theoretically he does but it’s in the way I do courting Kate Upton. It’s possible sure, it’s just not bloody likely. I don’t think Bernie should withdraw quite yet but I think he should be focusing on bringing his supporters to Clinton rather than grasping at straws. I thought I saw something on Facebook earlier about him demanding a recount in Missouri. I don’t know who funds the recounts there but if it was taxpayer funded, I’d be pissed at Bernie if I were a Missourian because that recount may at best net him a couple delegates. If he were closer in the delegate count and MO was winner take all, I’d get it.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:17:00pm

CHYNA

105
EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:17:39pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

That’s where the cynicism is coming in, as all those Republicans up for reelection are “breaking ranks,” but none are actually demanding a vote, just voicing a willingness to meet with Garland. It’s a calculated ploy to save their asses, feigning cooperation and bipartisanship when they have no intention of actually forcing a vote, which will disappear into the aether if Trump wins and/or the GOP retains the Senate majority come November. If they lose both, then you’ll see a sudden rush to get a vote on Garland before the President can yank back the nomination.

It’s the usual ‘moderate Republican’ trick of pretending to be reasonable only when forced to (e.g., by a potential general election threat), while enabling wingnut shit at all other times.

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Brian J.  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:18:16pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

CHYNA

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I was a graduate student in a heavily Chinese Statistics Department at the University of Georgia in 2000. Let’s just say that isn’t the first time Chinese people have reached that conclusion.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:18:29pm

#StillSanders

I read it for a bit. I commend those that are positive, but you can see all stages of grief there.

108
ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:18:54pm

I did not know that Portia Boulger was from Chillicothe Ohio. (Chil-a-koth-ee)

Cool old Ohio city at one time the original Ohio Capital. And of course it carries a very Native American name…Shawnee peoples pronounced it Chala*ka*tha.

109
TedStriker  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:19:17pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Better keep an eye on me, though. You never know.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:19:29pm

re: #100 b_sharp

Old school.
I have a couple in a box somewhere.

After the EMP strike I’ll be the only one on my block who knows what time it is. Then I’ll hop into my Kettering-ignition Rover and try to make it to the Yankee border.

111
EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:19:34pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

If Trump wins in the general election, it would be hard to argue that democracy works.

112
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:21:32pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

That’s where the cynicism is coming in, as all those Republicans up for reelection are “breaking ranks,” but none are actually demanding a vote, just voicing a willingness to meet with Garland. It’s a calculated ploy to save their asses, feigning cooperation and bipartisanship when they have no intention of actually forcing a vote, which will disappear into the aether if Trump wins and/or the GOP retains the Senate majority come November. If they lose both, then you’ll see a sudden rush to get a vote on Garland before the President can yank back the nomination.

Party uber alles.

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austin_blue  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:22:16pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This is getting really tedious.

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Especially when you are not a member of, but caucus with, the Democratic Party. If you aren’t a member of the club, you don’t get to dictate the rules after the fact.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:23:05pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This is getting really tedious.

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That all of these stalwart democratic delegates are going to suddenly decide that instead of nominating a solid, democratic sure thing want they really want to do is nominate a 74 year old socialist for President.

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Great White Snark  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:23:10pm

re: #48 Belafon

How old is it? Is it older than when they changed the DST rules in 2005?

Damn the time goes by especially fast when it comes to a good clock radio.

116
HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:24:22pm

re: #114 Big Beautiful Door

That all of these stalwart democratic delegates are going to suddenly decide that instead of nominating a solid, democratic sure thing want they really want to do is nominate a 74 year old socialist for President.

Personally, I think the progressive wing of the party could have a better leader than Bernie but then again he’s not technically even part of the party.

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EPR-radar  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:24:46pm

re: #112 Big Beautiful Door

Party uber alles.

All is to promote the glorious cause of reducing taxes on rich Birchers!!!

Surely every true son of liberty will rally to this noble enterprise.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:24:58pm

That’s not a knock on Bernie or his ideas. I just think a 74 year old from a predominately white state isn’t the future of progressivism in this country.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:25:23pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

CHYNA

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Look at that tiny little finger!

Those are not the tiny fingers of a great leader, that I can tell you. Those are little fingers for a little leader, a little leader with no endurance. A short fingered leader that can’t be trusted. Not a great leader. Not with those fingers.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:25:53pm

re: #108 ObserverArt

I did not know that Portia Boulger was from Chillicothe Ohio. (Chil-a-koth-ee)

Cool old Ohio city at one time the original Ohio Capital. And of course it carries a very Native American name…Shawnee peoples pronounced it Chala*ka*tha.

Is Cuyahoga a Native American name too?

121
Brian J.  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:30:59pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Is Cuyahoga a Native American name too?

Yes. It means “Crooked River” in Iroquois. Apparently, “Flaming River” didn’t translate well.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:31:54pm

re: #121 Brian J.

Yes. It means “Crooked River” in Iroquois. Apparently, “Flaming River” didn’t translate well.

Ouch.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:38:16pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Is Cuyahoga a Native American name too?

Oh yeah. A ton of native America names in town, rivers, public buildings, etc.

This state must have had huge native America populations. There are still some burial mounds and other Native American ‘earthworks.’ I use to drive around the state checking them out.

Have you ever seen the Great Serpent Mound? Here is a wiki link: Great Serpent Wound - Ohio Park

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TedStriker  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:39:02pm

re: #121 Brian J.

Yes. It means “Crooked River” in Iroquois. Apparently, “Flaming River” didn’t translate well.

Well, to be truthful, it wasn’t on fire until after the Iroquois named it…

/

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2016 • 7:41:31pm

re: #123 ObserverArt

Oh yeah. A ton of native America names in town, rivers, public buildings, etc.

This state must have had huge native America populations. There are still some burial mounds and other Native American ‘earthworks.’ I use to drive around the state checking them out.

Have you ever seen the Great Serpent Mound? Here is a wiki link: Great Serpent Wound - Ohio Park

No, I’ve enver actually been to Ohio before. I remember reading about the mounds in Ohio and Illinois when I was younger. Not surprised that there’s a lot of Native American names. Names are interesting.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2016 • 8:15:36pm

re: #107 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

#StillSanders

I read it for a bit. I commend those that are positive, but you can see all stages of grief there.

Not sure how far behind I am (prob new thread even - I’m watching Shameless)

I delved into that hashtag today. Lots of bern it down folks. I was saddened.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 16, 2016 • 8:17:40pm

Yep, new thread w/64 comments…

128
Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 16, 2016 • 9:01:11pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

As a Muslim, allow me to invite China to go fuck themselves.

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BadExampleMan  Mar 16, 2016 • 10:41:36pm

re: #38 Great White Snark

What has gotten me is I buy a clock radio. It has DST built in. Right in the chip. They change the date for the time changes and the damn thing resets itself on the wrong dates. Probably outta toss the old thing and just use my cell phone.

Try it in Israel, where they change the DST cutover dates Every. Damn. Year. (It’s to accommodate the religious holiday schedule, basically to shorten the YK fast by an hour.)

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steve_davis  Mar 17, 2016 • 4:04:07am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

She retweeted it:

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Portia A. Boulger’s TL at twitter.com

defamation “per se.” I believe that’s lawyer’s speak for “we don’t anticipate a trial. We’ll just make a motion for summary judgement, followed by punitive damages.”


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