Photo of the Day: Donald Trump and the Great Wall of Garbage

Who’s gonna pay for that garbage wall?
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This image rich with many-layered symbolism is from Donald Trump’s rally today in Pennsylvania, where he’s speaking in front of, yes, a wall of garbage.

P.S. Look how tiny that hand is.

UPDATE at 6/28/16 11:37:04 am by Charles Johnson

Here’s an earlier wide shot of this oh-so-symbolic wall of crushed rubbish.

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418 comments
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:34:54am
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Teukka  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:34:55am

You use steel or Alu cans in the US?

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:35:51am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:36:22am

re: #2 Teukka

You use steel or Alu cans in the US?

Aluminum for soft drinks and the like, tin cans for pretty much anything else.

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:36:35am

re: #2 Teukka

You use steel or Alu cans in the US?

I can’t remember the last time steel was used in a small can. For all my life, it’s been either tin or aluminum for small containers.

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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:36:52am

Manufacturing output is at highest levels ever, but that’s due to increasing automation, which means fewer people are doing those kinds of jobs.

I’d love to say that all his claims that he’d build more infrastructure - all that beautiful and best infrastructure - would create more manufacturing jobs, but this is the GOP we’re talking about and they’ve blocked the kind of infrastructure spending needed to really jump start the economy. And they certainly wont raise taxes to cover any of it.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:36:56am
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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:37:23am

re: #2 Teukka

Both - aluminum for soda/beer, etc., and steel for other types of canned goods.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:38:32am

CHEATERS!!!11!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:38:45am
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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:39:30am

re: #5 freetoken

Steel is pretty common actually.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:39:33am

Hillary Wall Street!
DRINK!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:40:09am

Radical Islamic Terrorism!
DRINK AGAIN!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:40:21am

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

Low attendance. Sad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:41:14am

re: #14 GlutenFreeJesus

Low attendance. Sad.

Not open to the public.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:41:27am
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Teukka  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:42:10am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not open to the public.

Or it could be a rehearsed cover story if the turnout turned out to be bad *ducks*

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:42:48am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still sad. Empty seats so they were expecting more people. I’m fine with that!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:42:56am

The United Strengths…

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blueraven  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:43:06am

Ha…United Straights

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William Lewis  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:43:21am

re: #5 freetoken

I can’t remember the last time steel was used in a small can. For all my life, it’s been either tin or aluminum for small containers.

Always been (and still is) steel with a very thin layer of tin. Much cheaper for the food companies and very recyclable.

From Wiki on “tin can”

No cans currently in wide use are composed primarily or wholly of tin;[citation needed] that term rather reflects the nearly exclusive use in cans, until the second half of the 20th century, of tinplate steel which combined the physical strength and relatively low price of steel with the corrosion resistance of tin. Depending on the contents and available coatings. Tin-free steel is also used.

In some locations any metal can, even aluminium, might be called a “tin can”. Use of aluminium in cans began in 1957.[6] Aluminium is less costly than tin-plated steel but offers the same resistance to corrosion in addition to greater malleability, resulting in ease of manufacture; this gave rise to the two-piece can, where all but the top of the can is simply stamped out of a single piece of aluminium, rather than laboriously constructed from three pieces of steel.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:44:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:44:53am

Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement

Donald has no clue what that is.

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blueraven  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:45:18am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

The United Strengths…

OK, I heard him say United “Straights”, but it was quick so not sure.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:45:59am
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Lidane  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:45:59am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:46:06am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement

Donald has no clue what that is.

Is that what creates the North American Union?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:46:36am

re: #24 blueraven

OK, I heard him say United “Straights”, but it was quick so not sure.

You could be correct.
It actually sounded like a combination of what you wrote and I wrote.

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:46:58am

re: #20 blueraven

Ha…United Straights

Is that what they call it in Atlantic City when you hit a gut shot straight draw?

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:48:28am

Someone did his homework for him again.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:49:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:49:46am

cheaters again…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:50:21am

re: #5 freetoken

I can’t remember the last time steel was used in a small can. For all my life, it’s been either tin or aluminum for small containers.

“Tin” cans are all steel—tin would be enormously expensive and wasteful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:51:00am

Nothing in his speech about how all these tariffs are going to impact the price of consumer goods.

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:51:11am

re: #33 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Tin” cans are all steel—tin would be enormously expensive and wasteful.

It turned into that, eventually. But tin really was used at one time.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:52:13am

3-Piece Welded Cans
2-Piece Draw Redraw
2-Piece Drawn and Ironed
Hybrid Packages

silgancontainers.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:53:22am

So Trump says he’s going to bring back American steel and ALUMINUM!

I’m guessing he doesn’t know where the vast majority of bauxite is mined.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:53:50am

Speaking of recycling, he’s just reciting Mitt’s old speeches now isn’t he?

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Lidane  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:54:00am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:54:09am
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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:54:12am

Tin was used as a coating on many containers, because the steel/iron would rust.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:54:36am

Apparently he decided to be known for more than just being Mac & Cheese Dudebro for the rest of his life…

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:55:06am
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thecommodore  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:55:21am

You know, this picture of Donald Trump giving a speech in front of neatly stack piles of garbage reminds me of that episode of MASH where Frank Burns got the idea of selling the 4077’s garbage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:55:41am

Donald ad libbed all that aluminum nonsense.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:55:48am
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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:56:15am
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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:56:59am

I just realized who Trump reminds me of when he uses a teleprompter…

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:57:24am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:57:38am

re: #44 thecommodore

You know, this picture of Donald Trump giving a speech in front of neatly stack piles of garbage reminds me of that episode of MASH where Frank Burns got the idea of selling the 4077’s garbage.

Donald Trump as Frank Burns, man, if that isn’t the most fitting description I have seen yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:57:42am

But no PA steel for Trump Tower.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:58:43am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

So Trump says he’s going to bring back American steel and ALUMINUM!

I’m guessing he doesn’t know where the vast majority of bauxite is mined.

I only know what happens here: Recyclers are required to pay for aluminum cans. I got 54¢ a pound for one big batch a few years ago. They are not actually remade into ingots—instead there’s a huge mountain in Eastern Washington composed of crushed aluminum cans. Nobody is making new cans out of them, never mind airplanes—but we are giving the aluminum smelters essentially free electricity to smelt fresh aluminum from ore.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:59:12am
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blueraven  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:59:27am

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But no PA steel for Trump Tower.

Mob cement.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:59:33am

re: #43 Kragar

Under Trump’s trade plans, we would see higher prices, fewer jobs, and a weaker economy t.co pic.twitter.com
— U.S. Chamber

Your GOP nominee, everybody.

I guess the Chamber and the Club For Growth and other true economic conservatives have their choice of…Gary Johnson.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:01:30pm

re: #52 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We’re only getting pennies a pound for aluminum cans in my area now. It’s not worth taking to the recycling place (~25 miles away). So we just take them to the county recycling location in town with the rest of the recyclables about once a month or so.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:02:11pm

re: #54 blueraven

Mob cement.

Full of Jimmy Hoffa?

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:03:30pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

Full of Jimmy Hoffa?

Reminds me of this photo that was posted on the facebook of an organization I’m part of.
They got this new concrete slab, and Jimmy Hoffa was promptly tagged on the pic XD

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:03:44pm

re: #55 Sir John Barron

Your GOP nominee, everybody.

I guess the Chamber and the Club For Growth and other true economic conservatives have their choice of…Gary Johnson.

You know, there is a part of me that wishes we could place bets on American elections, because I would probably take a flyer on Trump finishing third in the popular vote. Like I’d throw down $20 on 1500:1 odds (hell, at that price maybe I’d throw down $100).

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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:03:48pm
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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:03:49pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:03:53pm

re: #43 Kragar

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Vote TRUMP! Because Smoot-Hawley Worked So Well!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:03:58pm

re: #48 De Kolta Chair

I just realized who Trump reminds me of when he uses a teleprompter…

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Sucks that Jerry Lewis even if he does have a rep for being a dick is apparently a Trump supporter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:04:02pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:04:39pm

Watching Red Dawn (1984). Why did the Cubans attack a school? And shoot a bazooka through its hallway? No wonder their takeover of the USA failed.

///

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Anymouse  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:04:41pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re only getting pennies a pound for aluminum cans in my area now. It’s not worth taking to the recycling place (~25 miles away). So we just take them to the county recycling location in town with the rest of the recyclables about once a month or so.

For a while here we had a recycler from the central part of the state set up a trailer here in my village, where residents could take recyclable materials (steel, aluminium, paper, plastic), and about every couple weeks he would take the trailer and leave a new one.

The town was actually behind the effort; the village board pointed out the benefits of recycling and the reduction of cost for our garbage service (less mass).

That lasted about six months; the recycler said he couldn’t make enough money to justify coming out here, so he ended the service.

We’re back to no recycling now.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:04:45pm

re: #61 Kragar

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Somehow, I wonder how he’d be feeling if the roles were reversed. I’m sick of Bernie’s sore loser bullshit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:05:02pm

re: #61 Kragar

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Give him his Participation Ribbon and a juice box and tell him to go back and sit down.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:05:28pm
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makeitstop  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:06:03pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

“No autographs?” an audience member says as Trump quickly exits instead of working the rope line here in PA

He’s clearly getting tired of campaigning. Very low-energy. Sad!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:06:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:08:33pm
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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:08:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:09:19pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think that’s what people need to know about Trump. His entire schtick is a fraud.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:10:07pm

Looks very bad but since this is the Daily Fail, there is no telling what was really going on.

Outrage as thousands of children run over the graves of fallen soldiers from WWI’s Battle Of Verdun in stunt organised by German filmmaker during 100th anniversary commemorations in France

Thousands of children ran across the graves of soldiers who died in the First World War’s Battle of Verdun
Some 330,000 soldiers, mainly French and German troops, died on the battlefield at Verdun in 1916
The 3,400 children ran among the graves during commemorations, as part of a stunt by German filmmaker

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:10:34pm

re: #73 Kragar

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I think the first nearly century of our country where we had legalized slavery was a little worse, Joe but then again I actually read history and don’t cry myself to sleep because a black man got elected President legitimately like you do Joe. By the way how are the kids that you couldn’t even bother to pay child support for but somehow won the AFA man of the year award.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:13:16pm

The GOP has spent the past half century criticizing Democrats for being Big Government, criticizing all manner of interventions in the Free Market, have created dozens of lavishly funded, wingnut welfare think tanks dedicated to the propositions of Milt Friedman, and along comes Trump and in the span of a few months just sets fire to the whole edifice.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:13:22pm

re: #65 Sir John Barron

Watching Red Dawn (1984). Why did the Cubans attack a school? And shoot a bazooka through its hallway? No wonder their takeover of the USA failed.

///

War is sexy.
War is fun.
Iron Ego.
Red Dawn.

Be a Wolverine, you’ll rule the hills
Get some guns and Cheerios
Any kid can conquer Libya
Just steal a fighter plane!

- Dead Kennedys, “Rambozo the Clown”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:14:25pm

re: #77 Sir John Barron

The GOP has spent the past half century criticizing Democrats for being Big Government, criticizing all manner of interventions in the Free Market, have created dozens of lavishly funded, wingnut welfare think tanks dedicated to the propositions of Milt Friedman, and along comes Trump and in the span of a few months just sets fire to the whole edifice.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Trump has shown that economics really don’t matter to many GOP voters but raw hate sure does. Whether that’s Muslims, women, Hispanics, pick your Trump audience of the day.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:14:36pm

Heh

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:15:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:16:12pm

In addition to limiting access to Planned Parenthood and Title IX family planning clinics, the GOP bill also appropriated less than half of the President’s request of $325 million for global health programs at USAID, reduced VA funding by $500 million, and repealed the EPA’s ability to prevent pesticides from being discharged into bodies of water.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:16:45pm

Praise the (Time) Lord | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS
Tardis, if you’re here, you’ll love this.

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thecommodore  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:18:02pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

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Tardis, if you’re here, you’ll love this.

Dammit! You beat me to it! :P

Oh well, it is Yuuuuuuuuuugely funny.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:18:04pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In addition to limiting access to Planned Parenthood and Title IX family planning clinics, the GOP bill also appropriated less than half of the President’s request of $325 million for global health programs at USAID, reduced VA funding by $500 million, and repealed the EPA’s ability to prevent pesticides from being discharged into bodies of water.

Didn’t they put a part into get rid of the prohibition on CSA flags at military burials? Yeah GOP, Trump’s your only problem. //

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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:18:24pm

For what it’s worth, Trump hasn’t tweeted in about 30 hours.

twitter.com

And he’s yet to indicate a position re: the Women’s Health decision from the Supreme Court.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:18:51pm

re: #84 thecommodore

Dammit! You beat me to it! :P

Oh well, it is Yuuuuuuuuuugely funny.

It was a delight to hear those Tweets finally read with a Scottish accent rather than me reading it in my head with a bizzaro Scottish-Irish-American accent.

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:18:56pm
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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:20:15pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, fighting a disease that can be spread through sexual intercourse, but cutting funding for family planning/birth control, which can reduce spread of the disease.

BRILLIANT!

So much for being pro life GOP. You’re just intent on seeing people born, and not caring what happens afterwards.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:20:27pm

re: #86 lawhawk

For what it’s worth, Trump hasn’t tweeted in about 30 hours.

twitter.com

And he’s yet to indicate a position re: the Women’s Health decision from the Supreme Court.

The evangelicals who have embraced him must really be happy.

//

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:20:31pm

re: #43 Kragar

U.S. Chamber ✔ @USChamber
Under Trump’s trade plans, we would see higher prices, fewer jobs, and a weaker economy uschamber.com
2:41 PM - 28 Jun 2016
231 231 Retweets 128 128 likes

Whoa. Uh, isn’t the US Chamber pretty much a conservative organization???

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Testy Toad T  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:21:24pm

JET FUEL CAN’T MELT STEEL BEAMS ALUMINUM TRASH-BALES!!!1

What is he even thinking here? Is this even a campaign?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:21:47pm

re: #86 lawhawk

For what it’s worth, Trump hasn’t tweeted in about 30 hours.

twitter.com

And he’s yet to indicate a position re: the Women’s Health decision from the Supreme Court.

Also, any reaction to Voisine (domestic abusers can’t have firearms).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:22:06pm

re: #88 Kragar

Sigh. My friend is going back home in a few days to see her new nephew. Hate this shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:22:20pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

Whoa. Uh, isn’t the US Chamber pretty much a conservative organization???

Conservative certainly but they’re going to embrace a protectionist like Trump either.

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makeitstop  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:22:44pm

re: #86 lawhawk

For what it’s worth, Trump hasn’t tweeted in about 30 hours.

twitter.com

And he’s yet to indicate a position re: the Women’s Health decision from the Supreme Court.

Did his new communications dude take away his Twitter account?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:22:46pm

re: #65 Sir John Barron

Watching Red Dawn (1984). Why did the Cubans attack a school? And shoot a bazooka through its hallway? No wonder their takeover of the USA failed.

///

To show that they were uncivilized barbarians, unlike the “moral equivalent of our founding fathers” who were fighting in Nicaragua at the time…

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Anymouse  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:23:01pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

Whoa. Uh, isn’t the US Chamber pretty much a conservative organization???

Yes they are. But many Republican voters don’t seem to be driven by economic conservatism (that would be Democrats), they are driven by religious zealotry and hatred for anyone not like them.

PS: And lots of guns.

I’m off to Denver to have my car serviced before our Canada trip next week. Later, folks.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:23:12pm

re: #90 Sir John Barron

The evangelicals who have embraced him must really be happy.

//

He’s good. James Dobson said so. I’m thinking he picks a VP in a vain effort to appeal to them.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:23:20pm

re: #86 lawhawk

For what it’s worth, Trump hasn’t tweeted in about 30 hours.

twitter.com

And he’s yet to indicate a position re: the Women’s Health decision from the Supreme Court.

It’s just a total coinkydink that he just hired a communications director, nothing to see here folks, move along.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:23:21pm

I am really at a loss for words (except expletives) right now.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:23:37pm

re: #44 thecommodore

You know, this picture of Donald Trump giving a speech in front of neatly stack piles of garbage reminds me of that episode of MASH where Frank Burns got the idea of selling the 4077’s garbage.

I know it is fun to make fun of Trump, but I think LGF is better than to call his ‘backdrop’ garbage. It is recyclable material. A good thing really and as most here would probably admit, we are all into recycling.

I think we can run with the whole recycle theme and still poke fun at Trump. He is just recycling typical Republican fat cat bullshit.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:24:22pm

He was going to speak in front of a wall of bullshit, but it kept falling apart…

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:25:00pm

If I were in the Trump campaign I would develop (or have developed) an app for his phone that will queue up tweets and the comms director has to release them.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:25:04pm
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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:25:22pm

Odds are that someone left behind their lunch, or their wheeled luggage, but the NYPD can’t take any chances. Nor should they. Probably much ado about nothing.

Meanwhile, there’s some serious stuff going down in Turkey - an apparent terror attack at Atatürk Airport.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:25:28pm

re: #101 Franklin

I am really at a loss for words (except expletives) right now.

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Yet when there’s an entire presidential campaign based on being an angry white guy, Tucker and Kimberly could care less. Really sick of the shit black people take for having the nerve to express anger in this society but the angry white guy is something that conservatives like Tucker and Kimberly’s network’s viewer base is.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:25:52pm

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel

RIP, Buddy Ryan

Former NFL coach, defensive guru Buddy Ryan dies at age 82

Pat Summitt and Buddy Ryan on the same day. RIP to both of them. Both legends.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:26:10pm

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel

RIP, Buddy Ryan

Former NFL coach, defensive guru Buddy Ryan dies at age 82

Whoah. I never liked him from a fan stand point but damn it I respected him. RIP Buddy.

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gwangung  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:26:12pm

re: #101 Franklin

I am really at a loss for words (except expletives) right now.

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Son, you really have never met a black man who’s actually angry. Y’all should actually have some black friends to figure out the difference.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:26:40pm

BACK AND TWEETING UP A BEAUTIFUL STORM!!!!
Like 40 years of MOAR TAX CUTS FOR CORPORATIONS & TEH RICHS!!!!!! has worked so well…

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:27:24pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

He’s good. James Dobson said so. I’m thinking he picks a VP in a vain effort to appeal to them.

Since my last comment got me thinking about off shore betting on the election, I decided to look around, according to this site, Gingrich is the favorite to be the GOP VP pick at 5/2. Sessions is second at 11/4. Ivanka is at 66/1.

For the general, Clinton is 1/3 while Trump is 11/4. Ryan and Johnson both clock in at 100/1.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:28:13pm

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

@vegas_sports: Good for @realDonaldTrump he’s smart on business. Maybe If corporations weren’t overtaxed they would stay. Voting for #Trump
— Donald J. Trump

The denial runs strong in this one.

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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:28:47pm

Spoke too soon, because here comes the tweetstorm of derp from Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:28:47pm

re: #112 KGxvi

Since my last comment got me thinking about off shore betting on the election, I decided to look around, according to this site, Gingrich is the favorite to be the GOP VP pick at 5/2. Sessions is second at 11/4. Ivanka is at 66/1.

For the general, Clinton is 1/3 while Trump is 11/4. Ryan and Johnson both clock in at 100/1.

Yuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:28:52pm
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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:29:41pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:29:41pm

re: #114 lawhawk

Spoke too soon, because here comes the tweetstorm of derp from Trump.

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More proof he’s an economic illiterate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:29:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:30:26pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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That needs to run in everystate with a large amount of blue collar workers. Trump’s full contempt for the working class needs to be known and shown.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:33:07pm

re: #86 lawhawk

For what it’s worth, Trump hasn’t tweeted in about 30 hours.

twitter.com

And he’s yet to indicate a position re: the Women’s Health decision from the Supreme Court.

I think Trump is lost. He can’t figure out what to do next. His schtick isn’t working anymore, and suddenly he’s losing, and losing pretty big. Josh Marshall had a great post up today about this. Trump’s whole mystique is based on dominance and winning. He was able to get past so many “Is this the end of Trump?” moments in the Primary because he just kept winning. His whole campaign, like Trump University, is based on the idea that he is THE BIGGEST WINNER, and he’s offering you the chance to be part of that WINNING!!!

Think of how much of his speeches was dedicated to how well he was polling, and how so many of his answers to questions about stuff he said were just that he’s winning in the polls.

But what if he’s LOSING? Suddenly, the air starts leaking out of the balloon, and what you’re left with is a guy who doesn’t have a clue about anything, who can’t help but strike back in the most childish fashion possible. Now he hasn’t tweeted in a day and a half, during which the SCOTUS torpedoed one of his base’s great hopes; Warren and Clinton hit the campaign trail and Warren wailed on him mercilessly; and now the Benghazi Report is released with all the effect of a wet firecracker. And he’s silent.

The Teleprompter speeches are not going to fire up the base, but when he goes off script, he frightens everyone else away. He has an absolute tin ear* for big news events - his need to make it all about him is very off-putting to everyone who ISN’T crazy. Someone said, after his lackluster-but-sane speech the night of the California Primary that there are only two Trumps - Crazy Trump and Boring Trump. I don’t think either one can win.

And now, the press smell blood.

*Or tin-lined steel. ///

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:33:28pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement

No officer with false teeth should attempt oral sex in zero gravity? I don’t see how that’s pertinent…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:34:39pm

re: #122 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

No officer with false teeth should attempt oral sex in zero gravity? I don’t see how that’s pertinent…

Upding for Kryten reference!

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:34:43pm

re: #121 Blind Frog Belly White

And now, the press smell blood.

Must be all those wimmins and their whatevers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:35:05pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:36:37pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bet that’ll be scrubbed soon.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:37:51pm

My Senator:

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Anymouse  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:38:49pm

re: #127 Franklin

If she wants to move to Nebraska, I’ll vote for her.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:39:34pm

re: #128 Anymouse

If she wants to move to Nebraska, I’ll vote for her.

NO!

But if you wait 8 years we can all have her.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:39:43pm

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

I suspect Vegas Sports is one of Trump’s aliases

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Timothy Watson  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:39:57pm

re: #126 GlutenFreeJesus

Bet that’ll be scrubbed soon.

It’s on archive.org, so good luck with that. :)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:41:03pm

re: #131 Timothy Watson

He will SUE!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:41:08pm

re: #130 De Kolta Chair

I suspect Vegas Sports is one of Trump’s aliases

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Oh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:41:30pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:42:14pm

Maybe the Trump backdrop today is a signal the middle class future is in going around town looking for recyclables for $0.10 a pound.

Very confidence inspiring.

I guess no one in his campaign has the ability to look at how things can be taken negatively. They are all so far up each other’s butts saying ‘great idea Donald, fantastic, you da’ man!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:42:58pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

That needs to run in everystate with a large amount of blue collar workers. Trump’s full contempt for the working class needs to be known and shown.

THIS TOO:

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:43:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:44:19pm

re: #136 The Vicious Babushka

THIS TOO:

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Yep real working class champion right there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:44:31pm

re: #121 Blind Frog Belly White

And now, the press smell blood

Press have started to figure out that Trump is ratings gold - whether they are fawning over him or trashing him. And since he is notoriously cantankerous and overbearing even with Fox News, nobody to the left of them is going to make any effort to get on his good side anymore.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:44:42pm
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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:45:14pm

The charge was leveled by Chris Gaubatz, a “national security consultant” who has moonlighted as an undercover agitator of Muslim groups that he accuses of being terrorist outfits, and it was directed at Reps. Keith Ellison (D-Mich.) and André Carson (D-Ind.). At the heart of his accusation is the attendance by those two members at a 2008 convention hosted by the Islamic Society of North America — a Muslim umbrella group, which Gaubatz claims is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood.

“I attended a convention in Columbus, Ohio, in 2008, organized by Muslim Brotherhood group, ISNA, and both the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Prisons had recruitment and outreach booths,” Gaubatz said in his testimony. “Both Congressman Keith Ellison, MN, and Andre Carson, IN, spoke at the Muslim Brotherhood event.”

Allegations that Ellison and Carson are secret Muslim agents with extremist leanings are usually found among fringe groups online, often discussed in dire tones on poorly designed websites. Rarely, if ever, do such sentiments get read into congressional testimony, with the imprimatur that offers.

Responsibility for this rare instance lies with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who oversaw the hearing as chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Oversight, Agency Action, Federal Rights and Federal Courts and whose staff likely screened the testimonies of the witnesses.

Mainstreaming conspiracy theories. Mainstreaming hate and bigotry. And just flat out smearing other members of Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:46:14pm

re: #137 Kragar

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He tossed out his legacy IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:46:52pm

re: #141 lawhawk

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Mainstreaming conspiracy theories. Mainstreaming hate and bigotry. And just flat out smearing other members of Congress.

McCarthyism for a new century of wingnut cumbuckets.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:47:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:49:29pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

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Nyet  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:50:53pm

“We don’t need no edumacation.”

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Testy Toad T  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:51:07pm

re: #137 Kragar

A bird in the hand is worth two on the podium, or something.

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blueraven  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:52:20pm

Istanbul airport explosion looks pretty bad.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:53:00pm

re: #43 Kragar

But richer rich people so we’re okay with that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:53:07pm

“I think there’s no question that evangelicals think that in one way they’ve kind of lost their home field advantage,” said Ed Stetzer. Stetzer is the director of research at LifeWay Christian Resources in Nashville. A recent survey from LifeWay found that two-thirds of Americans believe Christians face increasing intolerance. “That’s not a fringe belief. That’s the majority American belief,” Stetzer said.

snip

The LifeWay survey also found that nearly half of Americans feel Christians complain too much about how they are treated.

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Nyet  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:53:14pm

re: #131 Timothy Watson

It’s on archive.org, so good luck with that. :)

All they need is to place a prohibition on archive org for trumpuniversity com, and it will disappear.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:54:28pm

re: #151 Nyet

All they need is to place a prohibition on archive org for trumpuniversity com, and it will disappear.

I would hope that the Clinton campaign has already dumped the entire domain.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:54:54pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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snip

Evangelicals are the biggest whiners in this country. Oh someone wished me a Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, I’m oppressed!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:55:43pm

re: #141 lawhawk

A congressional witness just accused Congress’ two Muslim members of Muslim Brotherhood ties

And anyone who calls them out on these claims will be accused of being a crypto-Islamist themselves…

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:57:31pm

re: #141 lawhawk

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Mainstreaming conspiracy theories. Mainstreaming hate and bigotry. And just flat out smearing other members of Congress.

Interesting. I did not know the Muslim Brotherhood held conventions in Columbus. Damn, right under our noses.

Oh wait…the ISNA - Islamic Society of North America. I looked up their conventions and they have been held all around America since 1971. Many in Ohio. And they keep happening. It looks like the government is just going to keep letting these go on. The “Brotherhood” probably recruits at these conventions. Right under our noses. Outrageous!

There will be one held in Chicago this year too.

And people wonder why the Obama administration was worried about saying “radical Islamic terrorism.” Probably because of crap just like this.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:57:49pm

re: #65 Sir John Barron

Watching Red Dawn (1984). Why did the Cubans attack a school? And shoot a bazooka through its hallway? No wonder their takeover of the USA failed.

///

If that hadn’t been an American film about American partisans fighting the Soviets and Cubans in WWIII it could easily have been a Soviet film about Soviet partisans fighting the Germans and their allies in WWII.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:59:47pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:00:26pm

re: #148 blueraven

Istanbul airport explosion looks pretty bad.

Yeah, Czech news is saying 10 dead according to the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:02:08pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

“There’s nobody hated more in this nation than Christians,” Marshall County pastor warns his church

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:03:05pm

re: #156 Romantic Heretic

5 Reasons ‘Red Dawn’ Is Secretly a Subversive Anti-War Film

So let’s start with the north. Keep in mind, a military division is anywhere between 10,000 and 30,000 troops. Sixty of those, showing up in Alaska. Excuse me? Have they never played Risk before? How the hell did the U.S. miss the 600,000 troops even back when they were amassing in Kamchatka?

The U.S. intelligence networks and spy satellites then failed to notice this massive army as it moved south across 3,500 miles of land to reach the USA? And what the hell did we do to piss off Canada, that nobody there bothered to pick up the phone and let us know thousands and thousands of Red Army tanks and jeeps and support vehicles were clanking down the highway?

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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:03:36pm

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:04:04pm

re: #159 Sir John Barron

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Exactly. If they would just practice their religion and stay the hell out of politics and others business no one would care.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:04:12pm

re: #141 lawhawk

Responsibility for this rare instance lies with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who oversaw the hearing as chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Oversight, Agency Action, Federal Rights and Federal Courts and whose staff likely screened the testimonies of the witnesses.

Oh good dog, Cruz is the chair of something in Congress?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:06:22pm

re: #160 Kragar

5 Reasons ‘Red Dawn’ Is Secretly a Subversive Anti-War Film

US intelligence networks didn’t see them because Obama and Jade Helm 2015.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:07:07pm

re: #163 Sir John Barron

Oh good dog, Cruz is the chair of something in Congress?

And that sounds like a pretty important sub-committee too. Kind of reminds me of why Boehner decided to put Bachmann on the Intel committee.

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:07:07pm

re: #129 Franklin

NO!

But if you wait 8 years we can all have her.

She’s currently 67 years old. Realistically speaking, this was probably her one opportunity to run for president. Now, should Governor Baker not be re-elected in 2018, it is entirely possible that Justice Elizabeth Warren could be all of ours sometime thereafter.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:08:42pm

re: #163 Sir John Barron

Oh good dog, Cruz is the chair of something in Congress?

Said it upstream, but elections have consequences :)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:09:13pm

re: #167 Franklin

Said it upstream, but elections have consequences :)

Don’t blame me, I voted a straight Democratic ticket.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:09:28pm

re: #166 KGxvi

She’s currently 67 years old. Realistically speaking, this was probably her one opportunity to run for president. Now, should Governor Baker not be re-elected in 2018, it is entirely possible that Justice Elizabeth Warren could be all of ours sometime thereafter.

Very true.

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:09:41pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have to make a conscious effort to not assume that all Christians are hateful bigots merely because the US Religious Right are hateful bigots.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:10:55pm

re: #155 ObserverArt

I

And people wonder why the Obama administration was worried about saying “radical Islamic terrorism.” Probably because of crap just like this.

When you say “Islam”, then “radical” belongs in front of it and “terrorism” belong after it, otherwise it is not a complete concept

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:10:57pm

re: #166 KGxvi

She’s currently 67 years old. Realistically speaking, this was probably her one opportunity to run for president. Now, should Governor Baker not be re-elected in 2018, it is entirely possible that Justice Elizabeth Warren could be all of ours sometime thereafter.

I like your thinking. Warren would make a fine justice.

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:11:31pm
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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:11:38pm

The terrorists attacked outside security checkpoints at the airport.

As many others have warned/indicated - terrorists would simply shift the attacks to outside security cordons and checkpoints, including at airports, when checkpoints were installed. It was only a matter of time before terrorists shifted tactics.

Killing people outside the cordon is nearly as effective for a terror group as doing so inside, and less difficult to achieve when you’re expecting to die either way.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:12:43pm

Trump…kicking the cans down the road.

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Franklin  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:14:56pm

This is actually a great strategy. Wait until Trump goes on his RT bender and slip something benign looking to him to RT:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:14:57pm

re: #174 lawhawk

also

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:16:42pm

NBC trying really, really hard to get clicks:

Report Drags Clinton Back into Benghazi Mire

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Belafon  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:18:27pm

re: #178 freetoken

NBC trying really, really hard to get clicks:

Report Drags Clinton Back into Benghazi Mire

“Report suggests Clinton had dinner on night of attack.”

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:18:31pm

So, person known to mental stability problems,
Gun acquired through private transfer, no background check required

“…the family friend, Madison Davey told the TV station…”I always knew something would happen. I never thought she would do this. Christy was toxic for the family. She was mentally unstable.”…

…Sheats used the same gun in the shooting that her great-grandfather had left for her with instructions to “protect her family.” The “completely off-the-wall emotional” mom once spent time in a mental institution, Davey said…”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:19:34pm

re: #180 FormerDirtDart

S, person known to mental stability problems,
Gun acquired through private transfer, no background check required

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Such a sad story. She should have never been able to get that gun.

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:19:38pm

re: #172 ObserverArt

I like your thinking. Warren would make a fine justice.

She’s definitely qualified, and I’d prefer some appointments with more recent litigation/appellate experience rather than judicial experience. Plus, there’s the added benefit of her being a Senator because traditionally, the Senate is more willing to confirm one of their own.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:21:48pm

re: #178 freetoken

NBC trying really, really hard to get clicks:

Report Drags Clinton Back into Benghazi Mire

I love facts preceded by words like “may not have, could, likely, ” etc.

Damn. My once favorite broadcast company taken down to mere bullshit by Comcast.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:24:05pm

Christian tolerance…
Please note the use of the plural “Witnesses

Members of the Christian sect state that they are following the word of God and believe that the sites are still used for traditional rituals that are “not Christian” and may involve devil worship.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:25:58pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

Christian tolerance…
Please note the use of the plural “Witnesses

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Another example of how some Christian groups are exactly like ISIS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:27:47pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

Christian tolerance…
Please note the use of the plural “Witnesses

You remind me again that there is no arguing with some of these people, all we can do is hope to limit the amount of damage they can do.

(A similar quote of that I used earlier showed up on the stalker blog, and was used to make me out to be Stalinist who would stifle dissent…)

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:28:38pm

re: #178 freetoken

NBC trying really, really hard to get clicks:

Report Drags Clinton Back into Benghazi Mire

I think it’s pretty clear it has failed to drag Clinton back into the mire, but Horse Race Journalism.

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:29:26pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

Another example of how some Christian groups are exactly like ISIS.

Wasn’t it the Taliban that imploded several Buddhist statues in Afghanistan that several centuries old?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:29:54pm

re: #180 FormerDirtDart

The picture of the younger girl reminds me of one of my sisters. Not quite right, but enough that it’s upsetting.

It’s all upsetting anyway. The media only cares because the family was photogenic and pretty and they can talk about tragedy and there’s the added spin of the mom’s anti-gun control rhetoric, but this is a tragedy that’s played out on a smaller scale every day and most people don’t care.

Some days you really do just want to root for the meteor.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:32:43pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:33:30pm

re: #188 KGxvi

Wasn’t it the Taliban that imploded several Buddhist statues in Afghanistan that several centuries old?

Yep, and ISIS destroyed the historicTemple of Bel in Palmyra, Syria…considered a great architectural significant treasure. I’m sure there are more such examples. All in the name of religion.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:34:28pm

Bonus To Hating Trump: Gross MRA Dude Roosh V Won’t Want To Bang You

This photo of Roosh emerging from his mom’s basement will never get old.
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:36:04pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

Yep, and ISIS destroyed the historicTemple of Bel in Palmyra, Syria…considered a great architectural significant treasure. I’m sure there are more such examples. All in the name of religion.

They’ve declared when they take control of Egypt (snorfle….) they’ll destroy the Pyramids….

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:36:12pm

ESPN has an interesting article on their front page about an American Olympic athlete who is out as trans, and will be in the ESPN The Magazine Body Issue. Of course, I made the mistake of peeking at the comments, because I obviously have a disease.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:37:30pm

Wow. They are saying a policeman chased and tackled a guy at the Turkish airport and as they fought the guy triggered his bomb. Ugh.

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:37:52pm
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BeachDem  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:38:04pm

re: #141 lawhawk

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Mainstreaming conspiracy theories. Mainstreaming hate and bigotry. And just flat out smearing other members of Congress.

All you need to know:

Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America

Publisher WND Books

The book is based on a six-month undercover investigation of the Washington-based CAIR by Chris Gaubatz — son of co-author Paul David Gaubatz

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darthstar  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:39:11pm
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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:41:48pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:43:38pm

re: #189 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The picture of the younger girl reminds me of one of my sisters. Not quite right, but enough that it’s upsetting.

It’s all upsetting anyway. The media only cares because the family was photogenic and pretty and they can talk about tragedy and there’s the added spin of the mom’s anti-gun control rhetoric, but this is a tragedy that’s played out on a smaller scale every day and most people don’t care.

Some days you really do just want to root for the meteor.

With any luck, that hyperspace bypass will get approved…
//

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:43:42pm

re: #199 Kragar

not have enough characters to include “with that terrible combover”?

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:45:37pm

re: #201 KGxvi

Afraid not

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:47:51pm
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darthstar  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:50:43pm

My first thought when I saw Trump on TV giving his speech today.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:57:51pm

Lots more on her feed. Tweets loading 20 at a time. Repeats, but good ones:

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:57:57pm

Smartest thing Ha Ha ever said.

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:59:26pm

This Christians-as-victim schtick is growing, sadly, rather than fading.

It has to do with one of today’s SCOTUS cases, the Stormans v. Wiesmans decision.

This is going to be a long process.

The collapse of the old Protestant (white male to boot) worldview is all but finished in academia, but in the general population we are still in the middle of this, which will last at least until everyone alive in the US today is dead (say by 2100?)

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lockjawcanbefun  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:04:06pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:06:41pm

re: #65 Sir John Barron

Watching Red Dawn (1984). Why did the Cubans attack a school? And shoot a bazooka through its hallway? No wonder their takeover of the USA failed.

///

WOLVERINES!!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:07:07pm

I wonder who signs her paycheck…
Yeah, it certainly ain’t anyone living in the EU…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:08:43pm

“Our politicians have aggressively pursued a policy of globalization — moving our jobs, our wealth and our factories to Mexico and overseas,” he said, reading from prepared remarks and using teleprompters. “Globalization has made the financial elite who donate to politicians very, very wealthy. I used to be one of them. Hate to say it, but I used to be one of them.”

this is a message he could win on

if he wasnt donald trump

running as a republican

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Alephnaught  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:11:21pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

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Republic of Ireland too.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:12:16pm

This fucking asshole.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:12:34pm
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nines09  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:13:51pm

Trump standing in front of a wall of aluminum cans to be recycled? Well I’ll be……Trump is recycled trash…..One grift to the next…….

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makeitstop  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:14:48pm

re: #212 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“Globalization has made the financial elite who donate to politicians very, very wealthy. I used to be one of them. Hate to say it, but I used to be one of them.”

Is this a tacit admission that he’s not as super-wealthy as he’s been telling us?

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:15:11pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:15:58pm

am i ill informed or hasnt the republican party been pushing globalization and trade pacts and telling its voters that it tastes like ice cream for about forever?

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:16:22pm

This is the shot:

Justice Samuel A. Alito, Jr., wrote a strongly worded dissent, joined by Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr., and Justice Clarence Thomas. Apparently appealing to the time when a new Justice may join the Court, Alito complained that, if the Court’s denial of this case “is a sign of how religious liberty claims will be treated in the years ahead, those who value religious freedom have cause for great concern.”

And sure enough, the religious right is in full wail mode.

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:18:05pm

re: #219 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

am i ill informed or hasnt the republican party been pushing globalization and trade pacts and telling its voters that it tastes like ice cream for about forever?

You are informed well.

And the Drumpfskindanhangers will delight to point out that Herr Drumpfskind is giving these old establishment Republicans the middle finger.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:18:32pm

re: #217 makeitstop

“Globalization has made the financial elite who donate to politicians very, very wealthy. I used to be one of them. Hate to say it, but I used to be one of them.”

Is this a tacit admission that he’s not as super-wealthy as he’s been telling us?

Probably more an admission that he has back-doored America on doing business outside America and bought politicians, but he is a changed man now. Changed I tell you! Reformed! Never again…believe me…this I can tell you (with crossed fingers behind my back).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:18:50pm
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Jenner7  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:19:04pm

Probably posted already, but this is frackin’ funny.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:19:11pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

This fucking asshole.

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I hope Hillary is hanging onto a question for him about Turkey and the Kurds. He will talk about food.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:24:00pm

NAFTA passed the Senate 61 to 38. Democrats were almost evenly split: 27 YEA, 26 NAY (and 1 not in attendance for the vote). Republicans voted for it by a larger margin: 34 YEA to 12 NAY.

7 of the NAY votes are still in the Senate: 6 D, 1 R.

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA)
Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI)
Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

9 of the YEA votes are still in the Senate: 6 R, 3 D.

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
Sen. Tom Harkin (R-IA)
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT)
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA)

8 former Representatives who voted NAY are now in the Senate: 5 D, 2 R, 1 I.

Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Bob Menendez (D-NJ)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

7 former Representatives who voted YEA are now in the Senate: 5 D, 2 R.

Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Ben Cardin (D-MD)
Ed Markey (D-MA)
Rob Portman (R-OH)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)

NAFTA passed the House 234 to 200. House Democrats voted against it 156 to 102. Republicans supported it 132 to 43. The sole Independent—Bernie Sanders—voted against it.

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:26:16pm

re: #219 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

am i ill informed or hasnt the republican party been pushing globalization and trade pacts and telling its voters that it tastes like ice cream for about forever?

The Democrats are mostly on board with this program as well.

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Belafon  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:28:02pm

re: #226 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

It used to be, that what you described the Democratic part as was mostly what both parties looked like. I bet, if you held the vote now, the Democrats vote would be roughly the same, but Republicans would all be on one side.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:28:59pm

Advisors Tell Trump Running As Mussolini A No Go For General

will try running as bernie sanders instead

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:29:50pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

I hope Hillary is hanging onto a question for him about Turkey and the Kurds. He will talk about food.

“She has eggplants and peppers coming out of her whatever. Sad.”

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Kragar  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:30:54pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:34:22pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

He could be standing in front of the new Ivanka Trump Exclusive Christmas Ornament Collection.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:35:38pm

re: #230 De Kolta Chair

“She has eggplants and peppers coming out of her whatever. Sad.”

‘You’ve got Turkey in your NATO. Here, let me get that for you.’ —Spits on hankie…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:35:42pm

re: #228 Belafon

It used to be, that what you described the Democratic part as was mostly what both parties looked like. I bet, if you held the vote now, the Democrats vote would be roughly the same, but Republicans would all be on one side.

i should add credit to daily kos for what i posted there

m.dailykos.com

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CuriousLurker  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:38:30pm

re: #232 Skip Intro

He could be standing in front of the new Ivanka Trump Exclusive Christmas Ornament Collection.

Don’t be silly, everyone knows about the War on Christmas. She wouldn’t be allowed to sell them because Shariah, or Obama, or whatever. //

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Alephnaught  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:39:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:39:57pm

welp

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:42:43pm

re: #215 De Kolta Chair

Fun and fact-filled article at Cracked about the phony tweeters Trump likes to retweet

Enjoy your Pulitzer, Cracked staff!

That is utterly surreal. It’s basically sock puppets, all the way down.

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:43:11pm

To state the obvious, the victims of this terrorist attack in Turkey were largely Muslim.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:44:20pm

Just back from several days at a small Alabama state park. Here’s a photo the park host made of our cabin.

Mandatory political content: It was built by a 200 man CCC company in 1935. The framed document over the fireplace is their Thanksgiving, 1935 menu. The men building it got 30/month, 25 of which was deducted and sent home to their ‘relief’ families. I doubt the congress of the country holds the brains and good will to ever do such a thing again.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:46:21pm

re: #239 gocart mozart

To state the obvious, the victims of this terrorist attack in Turkey were largely Muslim.

And as I mentioned above and is being reported, one of the terrorists was tackled by a Turkish policeman and as they struggled on the floor the terrorist set off his bomb killing the policeman too. That may have saved lives and surely would be considered heroic.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:46:32pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp

[Embedded content]

There go the conservatives with their personal responsibility again. I’ve come to understand it means liberals are always personally responsible, but only when something bad happens. If something good happens, they’ll rush to claim responsibility for it (unless a liberal had anything to do with it, in which case it’s tainted with liberal cooties).

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suse  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:47:36pm

re: #52 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I only know what happens here: Recyclers are required to pay for aluminum cans. I got 54¢ a pound for one big batch a few years ago. They are not actually remade into ingots—instead there’s a huge mountain in Eastern Washington composed of crushed aluminum cans. Nobody is making new cans out of them, never mind airplanes—but we are giving the aluminum smelters essentially free electricity to smelt fresh aluminum from ore.

This sounded wrong to me, so I googled. Page 14 of a govt report from 2007 () says more than half of aluminum used then was recycled. The energy cost then was 5% of what it costs to smelt from ore. I’m wondering where you read/heard that nobody is making new cans or other aluminum stuff? Serious question, not snark.

Kinda bugs me that y’all are referring to the stacks behind He, Trump as garbage. It’s the thing in front of the stacks that is the garbage.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:48:53pm

re: #7 Dave In Austin

Didn’t Congress refuse more funding for security upgrades?

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:50:44pm

re: #243 suse

Kinda bugs me that y’all are referring to the stacks behind He, Trump as garbage. It’s the thing in front of the stacks that is the garbage.

Any recyclable residue there?

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CuriousLurker  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:51:19pm

re: #241 ObserverArt

And as I mentioned above and is being reported, one of the terrorists was tackled by a Turkish policeman and as they struggled on the floor the terrorist set off his bomb killing the policeman too. That may have saved lives and surly would be considered heroic.

Muslims aren’t allowed to be portrayed as heroic, only villainous, got it? Sheesh, do I have to explain everything to you guys? You need to get with the program. //

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Alephnaught  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:51:31pm

In case you missed it from the previous thread, I’m back from my holiday in Dublin. The journey back involved a bus to Belfast, a ferry to Cairnryan, and a bus to Glasgow. On the bus back to Glasgow, the road passes Turnberry golf course, or Trump Turnberry, as it’s now called. Hence…

Instagram

Welcome back to Scotland! #photo #iphoneography

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blueraven  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:51:51pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Just back from several days at a small Alabama state park. Here’s a photo the park host made of our cabin.

Embedded Image

Mandatory political content: It was built by a 200 man CCC company in 1935. The framed document over the fireplace is the Thanksgiving, 1935 menu. The men building it got 30/month, 25 of which was deducted and sent home to their ‘relief’ families. I doubt the congress of the country holds the brains and good will to ever do such a thing again.

My Dad was in CCC when he was very young. He used to speak of it fondly.
His family were rural Georgia farmers. He was one of 11 kids. I am sure that money helped get them through the depression.

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Shimshon  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:52:02pm

re: #226 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

NAFTA passed the Senate 61 to 38. Democrats were almost evenly split: 27 YEA, 26 NAY (and 1 not in attendance for the vote). Republicans voted for it by a larger margin: 34 YEA to 12 NAY.

7 of the NAY votes are still in the Senate: 6 D, 1 R.

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA)
Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI)
Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

9 of the YEA votes are still in the Senate: 6 R, 3 D.

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
Sen. Tom Harkin (R-IA)
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT)
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA)

8 former Representatives who voted NAY are now in the Senate: 5 D, 2 R, 1 I.

Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Bob Menendez (D-NJ)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

7 former Representatives who voted YEA are now in the Senate: 5 D, 2 R.

Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Ben Cardin (D-MD)
Ed Markey (D-MA)
Rob Portman (R-OH)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)

NAFTA passed the House 234 to 200. House Democrats voted against it 156 to 102. Republicans supported it 132 to 43. The sole Independent—Bernie Sanders—voted against it.

Typical lib propaganda. More like

YEA

Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton

Chequemix Liberache.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:53:49pm

re: #243 suse

This sounded wrong to me, so I googled. Page 14 of a govt report from 2007 ([Embedded content]

) says more than half of aluminum used then was recycled. The energy cost then was 5% of what it costs to smelt from ore. I’m wondering where you read/heard that nobody is making new cans or other aluminum stuff? Serious question, not snark.

Kinda bugs me that y’all are referring to the stacks behind He, Trump as garbage. It’s the thing in front of the stacks that is the garbage.

2007.
That was a VERY LONG TIME AGO.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:54:17pm

re: #243 suse

This sounded wrong to me, so I googled. Page 14 of a govt report from 2007 ([Embedded content]

) says more than half of aluminum used then was recycled. The energy cost then was 5% of what it costs to smelt from ore. I’m wondering where you read/heard that nobody is making new cans or other aluminum stuff? Serious question, not snark.

Kinda bugs me that y’all are referring to the stacks behind He, Trump as garbage. It’s the thing in front of the stacks that is the garbage.

I said the same thing suse. I’m thinking many here at LGF support recycling.

We are very lucky here in Columbus. We have special blue 55 gallon recycle containers on wheels that we put out where our trash is picked up and Rumpke Recycling picks up every other week. They even built a big recycling center just for the area. Pretty efficient and modern from what I’ve been told. There must be some money in it for it to be this extensive.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:54:38pm

re: #65 Sir John Barron

Watching Red Dawn (1984). Why did the Cubans attack a school? And shoot a bazooka through its hallway? No wonder their takeover of the USA failed.

///

Actually those were Russian paras, but yeah…not sure why the RPG blast through the school hall.

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:56:29pm

It seems UK politics is going off the rails is all sorts of ways:

Climate change sceptics UKIP to chair Assembly’s climate change committee

Maybe the UK is discovering just how powerful entropy can be in this universe?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:56:52pm

Has the media started insisting yet that the latest terrorist attack is going to help Trump in the polls?

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lizardofid  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:57:03pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Just back from several days at a small Alabama state park. Here’s a photo the park host made of our cabin.

Embedded Image

Mandatory political content: It was built by a 200 man CCC company in 1935. The framed document over the fireplace is the Thanksgiving, 1935 menu. The men building it got 30/month, 25 of which was deducted and sent home to their ‘relief’ families. I doubt the congress of the country holds the brains and good will to ever do such a thing again.

Looks great. We enjoy a lot of fine facilities here in Texas, built or improved by the CCC.

tpwd.texas.gov

I would also agree with your assessment of our congress critters : )

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:00:10pm

re: #251 ObserverArt

I said the same thing suse. I’m thinking many here at LGF support recycling.

We are very lucky here in Columbus. We have special blue 55 gallon recycle containers on wheels that we put out where our trash is picked up and Rumpke Recycling picks up every other week. They even built a big recycling center just for the area. Pretty efficient and modern from what I’ve been told. There must be some money in it for it to be this extensive.

Our small town has weekly pickup of single-stream recycle and ordinary waste. They use conventional garbage trucks which toss the containers using an hydraulic arm. Word is that the material is not as valuable as it once was because it went to China, and their consumption is down. We would do it at break-even, however, because we are in an expensive hurt for landfill capacity, and it takes a large volume out of that.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:01:14pm

re: #249 Shimshon

Typical lib propaganda. More like

YEA

Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton

Chequemix Liberache.

the fact that bill promoted it doesnt negate the fact that republicans were the ones
that were enthusiastically in favor of it

how much forgetting will it take to make the party of business tax breaks and accusing the dems of being to friendly to non job creators into the anti multinational party and the friend of the comman man?

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:01:41pm

re: #209 lockjawcanbefun

Holy shit! That’s not far from here.

Hope that wasn’t a bomb. That’s an awfully big hole.

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:01:56pm

re: #254 Dr. Matt

Has the media started insisting yet that the latest terrorist attack is going to help Trump in the polls?

That bit of media nonsense may have ended due to Trump’s abysmal performance after the Orlando massacre.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:03:19pm

re: #255 lizardofid

Looks great. We enjoy a lot of fine facilities here in Texas, built or improved by the CCC.

tpwd.texas.gov

I would also agree with your assessment of our congress critters : )

Guy who built it pocketed 5 Yankee dollars per month. For 80 years Alabama has been collecting (inflating) dollars now running 110/night. And they say country boys are slow.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:03:39pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Just back from several days at a small Alabama state park. Here’s a photo the park host made of our cabin.

Embedded Image

Mandatory political content: It was built by a 200 man CCC company in 1935. The framed document over the fireplace is their Thanksgiving, 1935 menu. The men building it got 30/month, 25 of which was deducted and sent home to their ‘relief’ families. I doubt the congress of the country holds the brains and good will to ever do such a thing again.

We have a lot of thos CCC parks here in Central Texas. Wonderful places.

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Jason Munro  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:05:15pm

re: #251 ObserverArt

We have a similar service in Lawrence KS, about 45 minutes from Kansas City. They even take glass, which is sooo handy for a microbrew fan such as myself :)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:05:48pm

re: #243 suse

This sounded wrong to me, so I googled. Page 14 of a govt report from 2007 ([Embedded content]

) says more than half of aluminum used then was recycled. The energy cost then was 5% of what it costs to smelt from ore. I’m wondering where you read/heard that nobody is making new cans or other aluminum stuff? Serious question, not snark.

Kinda bugs me that y’all are referring to the stacks behind He, Trump as garbage. It’s the thing in front of the stacks that is the garbage.

Well, maybe the local papers are lying about it, I don’t know. The aluminum industry has the state government so completely in their pocket that they get essentially free electricity because JERBZ!! Maybe smelting from ore is more labor-intensive so more JERBZ!! I’d love to be wrong and think all those cans were being used. I figured out once the energy cost comes to over 250 W-hr/can. Aluminum is just frozen electricity.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:06:08pm

Wow, MSNBC is showing a security camera video of a terrorist running from the police, gets shot, falls to the ground and then blows himself up. Luckily all the commotion chased people away from the area so it is a good chance that was another bomb that could have killed many that didn’t appear to harm anyone else.

I know…CL is going to be upset with me, but it appears the Turkish police were doing about as good a job as could be expected. More heroism from the Turkish police.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:07:23pm

Voted to reelect my congressman, Jerrold Nadler, today in NYC’s lovely old Tweed Courthouse. The ballot consisted entirely of two names: Jerry’s and that of his opponent, Oliver Rosenberg, a gay orthodox Jewish Wall Streeter who as far as reporters can tell is registered as a Repug, and who’s hoping to capitalize on Nadler’s vote for the Iran Nuke Deal.

Over the past few weeks I’ve gotten half a dozen full-color flyers in the mail from the Nadler campaign, and President Obama, former President Clinton, and Chuck Schumer have left messages on my machine. Not a peep from Rosenberg.

I suspect it’ll be yet another landslide for the Nadlerator.

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:07:50pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Just back from several days at a small Alabama state park. Here’s a photo the park host made of our cabin.

Embedded Image

Mandatory political content: It was built by a 200 man CCC company in 1935. The framed document over the fireplace is the Thanksgiving, 1935 menu. The men building it got 30/month, 25 of which was deducted and sent home to their ‘relief’ families. I doubt the congress of the country holds the brains and good will to ever do such a thing again.

Adjusted for inflation, $30/month in 1935 works out to be about $3 an hour today. Granted, circumstances were very different back then, but work keeping in mind.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:09:17pm

re: #256 Decatur Deb

Our small town has weekly pickup of single-stream recycle and ordinary waste. They use conventional garbage trucks which toss the containers using an hydraulic arm. Word is that the material is not as valuable as it once was because it went to China, and their consumption is down. We would do it at break-even, however, because we are in an expensive hurt for landfill capacity, and it takes a large volume out of that.

Our recycling set-up will stop taking glass July 1st. Costs too much to ship to someplace it can be reused.

Besides, at 7 people per square mile, we have more landfill potential than we can possibly fill.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:10:12pm

re: #262 Jason Munro

We have a similar service in Lawrence KS, about 45 minutes from Kansas City. They even take glass, which is sooo handy for a microbrew fan such as myself :)

Yes, ours too. Glass bottles and jars, paper, cardboard, newspapers, magazines, metal cans of all kinds and almost all types of plastics that have the recycle identifier on them.

It helps me a lot. I am down to one small kitchen garbage bag about every week and a half for the regular trash.

We also have grass clippings and other green things like tree branches as long as they are in the big paper recycle bags or bundled up with twine in 48” or less length bundles.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:10:48pm

re: #229 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Advisors Tell Trump Running As Mussolini A No Go For General

To which Trump replied, “You’re fired!”

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:10:57pm

re: #266 KGxvi

Adjusted for inflation, $30/month in 1935 works out to be about $3 an hour today. Granted, circumstances were very different back then, but work keeping in mind.

Yup. And these young guys were often found to be seriously starving when they got into the program. They got food, clothing, tents/cabins, and a bit of education out of it.

en.wikipedia.org

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:12:12pm

Hello.

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blueraven  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:13:16pm
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lizardofid  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:13:21pm

Have a good evening all!

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William Lewis  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:17:12pm

What a pain setting up a new phone. My old Samsung G4 croaked and I tried to make due with a trakfone. Expensive little monster. Bought a new G7. Sweet phone, but the pain of setting it up is high. Did find a SF theme that makes it look slightly like the cell phones on “The Expanse” which is humorous.

Funzies all the way around. Do need to get my favorite ringtone song onto it (Husker Du “Monday’s will never be the same”) yet.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:18:16pm

I toured one of the Alcoa plants in NY during a summer internship. Fascinating place. They were definitely melting down and recycling cans there.

I have one of the ingots they would cast every 15 minutes to check melt quality. Smaller thing, semi-useful as a paperweight as long as the wind isn’t up.

The crazy thing about just cast aluminum is it doesn’t glow like a lot of metal, so the plant can be more dangerous for that - you don’t realize that the stuff right next to you is 600 degrees and whoops. So full safety gear is pretty much required at all times.

My favorite thing we saw was the air blade they ran the cans over on their way to the melting pools. Set at just the right pressure so that the aluminum cans float over the gap but anything not aluminum would either be blown away or drop out.

Anyway, there’s some random science/engineering memories.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:19:35pm

re: #270 Decatur Deb

Yup. And these young guys were often found to be seriously starving when they got into the program. They got food, clothing, tents/cabins, and a bit of education out of it.

en.wikipedia.org

Many roads in Ohio were built by the CCC and WPA. And they did a hell of a job at it too. Those state highways are still in great shape today with very few holes, bumps, sink spots etc.

I just did a quick search for CCC and WPA projects in Ohio…I didn’t realize how extensive these projects were. Many parks, public buildings, college and other public stadiums, etc.

Ohio New Deal projects | Living New Deal

Yep. We need something like this again in this country. It would be a way to get our infrastructure back in line.

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Jenner7  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:23:57pm

re: #265 De Kolta Chair

I had two choices to go against Sen. Mike Lee. Misty K. Snow, who is a lot like Bernie, or Jonathon Swinton, who is a conservative Democrat. People aren’t happy with Lee, but he’ll be re-elected. So, I voted for Snow. I didn’t like Swinton’s stance on guns. He pretty much wanted to only concentrate on the mental health aspect.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:24:25pm

re: #276 ObserverArt

Many roads in Ohio were built by the CCC and WPA. And they did a hell of a job at it too. Those state highways are still in great shape today with very few holes, bumps, sink spots etc.

I just did a quick search for CCC and WPA projects in Ohio…I didn’t realize how extensive these projects were. Many parks, public buildings, college and other public stadiums, etc.

Ohio New Deal projects | Living New Deal

Yep. We need something like this again in this country. It would be a way to get our infrastructure back in line.

What sidewalks we have are marked ‘WPA’ and the year. ‘39 and ‘41 were good years. Nothing left from ‘40. Must have been a good year for corruption.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:24:30pm

re: #276 ObserverArt

Many roads in Ohio were built by the CCC and WPA. And they did a hell of a job at it too. Those state highways are still in great shape today with very few holes, bumps, sink spots etc.

I just did a quick search for CCC and WPA projects in Ohio…I didn’t realize how extensive these projects were. Many parks, public buildings, college and other public stadiums, etc.

Ohio New Deal projects | Living New Deal

Yep. We need something like this again in this country. It would be a way to get our infrastructure back in line.

A follow-on program still exists. Our Habitat affiliate had a dozen kids for our best year and a half of house construction. They were NCCC, a program that has been under RW attack. I worked with them most weekends, and have recommended it to my low-motivation grand-daughter. Unfortunately, we lost them all to Katrina recovery work.

nationalservice.gov

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blueraven  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:24:51pm

re: #276 ObserverArt

I am very fond of the WPA posters

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:25:30pm

re: #248 blueraven

My Dad was in CCC when he was very young. He used to speak of it fondly.
His family were rural Georgia farmers. He was one of 11 kids. I am sure that money helped get them through the depression.

Yep. Some of my farmer family from both Illinois and Georgia worked in it while other sibs helped run the farm. It made all the difference in keeping farm and family together.

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:26:24pm

re: #276 ObserverArt

Yep. We need something like this again in this country. It would be a way to get our infrastructure back in line.

I’m not sure an agency like the CCC could exist today. We don’t have the crippling unemployment that fed the CCC. On top of that, the construction industry has grown since the Depression. We need funding for these kinds of projects, but the CCC as it existed then would simply not work today.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:27:32pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

A follow-on program still exists. Our Habitat affiliate had a dozen kids for our best year and a half of house construction. They were NCCC, a program that has been under RW attack. I worked with them most weekends, and have recommended it to my low-motivation grand-daughter. Unfortunately, we lost them all to Katrina recovery work.

nationalservice.gov

The only way the right wing will ever be brought on board for fixing our infrastructure is if chain gangs do all the work.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:27:47pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

A follow-on program still exists. Our Habitat affiliate had a dozen kids for our best year and a half of house construction. They were NCCC, a program that has been under RW attack. I worked with them most weekends, and have recommended it to my low-motivation grand-daughter. Unfortunately, we lost them all to Katrina recovery work.

nationalservice.gov

One of my customers took off for Nepal on Sunday for his second Peace Corps stint. He’s 70, and may not stay for his whole two years. His first stint was in Central America a few decades back. In between, he was a business professor at the local Uni.

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:28:02pm

Shocker!! (or not…)

Exclusive: Trump supporters more likely to view blacks negatively - Reuters/Ipsos poll

Supporters of U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump are more likely to describe African Americans as “criminal,” “unintelligent,” “lazy” and “violent” than voters who backed some Republican rivals in the primaries or who support Democratic contender Hillary Clinton, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.

Ahead of the Nov. 8 election to replace Barack Obama, the first black U.S. president, the poll also showed significant numbers of Americans in both the Republican and Democratic parties view blacks more negatively than whites, harbor anxiety about living in diverse neighborhoods and are concerned that affirmative action policies discriminate against whites.

Republicans in the survey expressed these concerns to a greater degree than Democrats, with Trump supporters presenting the most critical views of blacks.

[…]

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MsJ  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:28:26pm

re: #207 gocart mozart

Did someone say that HA guy wrote a book?

What did he do…write it in lipstick? He never tweets a sentence that makes sense (let alone correct in grammar). Who is this guy?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:29:25pm

re: #283 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The only way the right wing will ever be brought on board for fixing our infrastructure is if chain gangs do all the work.

“Takin’ a drink, here, Boss?”

“Take a drink.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:31:07pm

re: #286 MsJ

Did someone say that HA guy wrote a book?

What did he do…write it in lipstick? He never tweets a sentence that makes sense (let alone correct in grammar). Who is this guy?

I believe that’s a joke account, a bot that generates HA Goodmanesque tweets.

Otherwise, I’d think he/she’s having a stroke.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:31:17pm

Fuck. Been hearing 50 at the airport.

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:32:06pm
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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:32:33pm

re: #276 ObserverArt

The construction heavy/highway industry has changed immensely since 1939. What once took 100 men with picks axes and shovels now takes one machine and one operator. Hence the saying, nothing but asses and elbows.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:33:18pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:35:31pm

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

“Takin’ a drink, here, Boss?”

“Take a drink.”

Keep shakn’ that bush.

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:36:09pm
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Jenner7  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:37:36pm

Really.

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suse  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:38:52pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

2007.
That was a VERY LONG TIME AGO.

Yes, it was a while ago (ten years is a very long time now? egads I’m old), but it showed a significant amount of recycling Al then and a significant cost saving to recycling Al vs smelting from ores. I don’t think the cost of recycling vs. smelting would have changed negatively in the time since.

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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:38:54pm

re: #295 Jenner7

More projection than IMax.

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whitebeach  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:39:30pm

re: #292 Charles Johnson

Le Grand Orange asks when the world will realize what is going on. Is there some small benighted island somewhere in which the citizenry is unaware of terrorist attacks?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:42:10pm

re: #296 suse

Yes, it was a while ago (ten years is a very long time now? egads I’m old), but it showed a significant amount of recycling Al then and a significant cost saving to recycling Al vs smelting from ores. I don’t think the cost of recycling vs. smelting would have changed negatively in the time since.

All I know is that here in eastern Kentucky there has been no market encouraging aluminum recycling for more than a year. Last time I checked (a few months ago) it was about 8 cents a pound.
It all just piles up and eventually gets sent to China.

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MsJ  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:42:45pm

Bernie is back to begging for $2.70 to send delegates to the convention.

Who will rid us of this truculent prick?

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:42:48pm
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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:43:27pm

re: #298 whitebeach

Le Grand Orange asks when the world will realize what is going on. Is there some small benighted island somewhere in which the citizenry is unaware of terrorist attacks?

Just wait until he’s president and tweeting updates from the Situation Room.

these generals don’t know anything. Sad! Told them ur fired, and then sent bombers for Iran

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:44:04pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:44:36pm

NC House leadership drafts HB2 changes amid pressure from NBA

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:45:44pm
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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:46:28pm

re: #303 gocart mozart

Alien: Take me to your leader.
Me: Um, look (rubs back of neck), here’s the thing… maybe it’d be better if you took me to your leader.
Alien: You speak for this planet?
Me: Sure, why not? Couldn’t be any worse… C’mon, let’s go… No, don’t look back.

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:48:19pm
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KGxvi  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:49:17pm

re: #307 Skip Intro

[Embedded content]

What could possibly go wrong?

Entire 20th Century: REALLY!?!?!

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freetoken  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:49:19pm

Meanwhile, in the neat evolution news of the day, it turns out that birds were coming along quite nicely with their feathers in the middle of the Cretaceous:

Bird wings trapped in amber are a fossil first from the age of dinosaurs

references this: nature.com

see images: nature.com

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Shimshon  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:51:28pm

re: #257 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the fact that bill promoted it doesnt negate the fact that republicans were the ones
that were enthusiastically in favor of it

how much forgetting will it take to make the party of business tax breaks and accusing the dems of being to friendly to non job creators into the anti multinational party and the friend of the comman man?

I think it’s sad I needed to put /s in there, how you didn’t see the obvious sarcasm is beyond me. I mean come on, “chequemix liberache” really??

But then again I’m fleeing so many comment sections like reddit and fark that are totally full stormfront where “sjw” (evil libs are the REAL nazis!) and “globalization” (jew bankers) are part of their argument and white genocide is totally a thing to them. so you never know all the nutters out there that seriously believe the dumbest things.

They’re all celebrating Trump and the Brexit, it’s proof that the majority in America and Britain are stormfronters like them.

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BeachDem  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:53:16pm

re: #300 MsJ

Bernie is back to begging for $2.70 to send delegates to the convention.

Who will rid us of this truculent prick?

Don’t you know it is an oligarchical DNC Hillary plot to keep Bernie delegates out? That unlike every other convention evah, they’ve raised the prices and printed that information in invisible ink to keep Berners from knowing what the deal is? And that the DNC is paying for Hillary delegates to go to the convention and jacking up the prices for Bernie delegates, and it is so unfair and they’re being disenfranchised?

I swear to you, I have read all of these complaints from Berners.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:53:19pm

re: #293 Decatur Deb

Keep shakn’ that bush.

“Mah boah kin eat fifteh aigs!”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:53:51pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:54:06pm

re: #308 KGxvi

What could possibly go wrong?

Entire 20th Century: REALLY!?!?!

Back when Dennis Miller was very occasionally funny, he said about the reunification of Germany: “I think of that like a Jerry Lewis-Dean Martin reunion. I wasn’t really a fan of their previous work, and I’m not sure I want to see any of their new stuff.”

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blueraven  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:54:12pm

As all the other cable news station are covering the attack in Turkey, Fox News is all over BENGHAZI!!!

Spinning that report with the usual Fox hot take.

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:55:25pm

re: #315 blueraven

As all the other cable news station are covering the attack in Turkey, Fox News is all over BENGHAZI!!!

Spinning that report with the usual Fox hot take.

I wonder how many of their viewers they’ll convince to dump Hillary over this scandal?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:56:10pm

re: #308 KGxvi

What could possibly go wrong?

Entire 20th Century: REALLY!?!?!

A British friend of mine told me about Germany beating the UK in a World Cup match. The British commentator said, “I suppose it’s fair that the Germans beat us at our national sport, since we’ve beaten them twice at theirs.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:56:36pm

I’m guessing this doesn’t include people like the Bundy gang or Operation Rescue or…
oh hells…I give up…

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suse  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:56:38pm

re: #245 wrenchwench

Any recyclable residue there?

Birds could use the hair for nests. Otre: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

All I know is that here in eastern Kentucky there has been no market encouraging aluminum recycling for more than a year. Last time I checked (a few months ago) it was about 8 cents a pound.
It all just piles up and eventually gets sent to China.

Confused about this. Sending recycling to China seems very expensive.

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Shimshon  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:56:42pm

re: #315 blueraven

As all the other cable news station are covering the attack in Turkey, Fox News is all over BENGHAZI!!!

Spinning that report with the usual Fox hot take.

I am thankful that the shooting in Denver was not a mass shooting. Maybe that is the reason the media hasn’t talked about this. Could have been very bad. But going into a business and killing someone then yourself is shamefully normal in America today.

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:56:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:57:35pm

re: #319 suse

Confused about this. Sending recycling to China seems very expensive.

Nobody said it was supposed to make sense.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:57:39pm

re: #319 suse

Birds could use the hair for nests. Ot

Confused about this. Sending recycling to China seems very expensive.

Not if the ship has to go back for more Harbor Freight tools.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:58:29pm

re: #319 suse

Birds could use the hair for nests. Ot

Confused about this. Sending recycling to China seems very expensive.

If containers of goods come here from China, the ships and containers have to go back for more, right?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:59:05pm

re: #323 Decatur Deb

Not if the ship has to go back for more Harbor Freight tools.

And poison dog food.

And poison toys.

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Kilroy01  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:59:43pm

re: #325 Blind Frog Belly White

And poison dog food.

And poison toys.

Hmmmm lead.. sweet tasty lead

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2016 • 3:59:57pm

re: #325 Blind Frog Belly White

And poison dog food.

And poison toys.

Tube socks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:00:43pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:02:25pm

re: #327 Decatur Deb

Tube socks.

But are they poison tube socks?

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whitebeach  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:03:17pm

re: #324 Blind Frog Belly White

If containers of goods come here from China, the ships and containers have to go back for more, right?

Not exactly. We recycle the containers on this end by partitioning them and turning them into cruise ship cabins.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:03:22pm
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thedopefishlives  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:04:03pm

Evening Lizardim. So I watched live as Faux News interrupted their coverage of the Turkey airport terrorist bombings with the release of the BENGHAZI!!!!!! House Special Committee Report. Because of course that big fat nothingburger is obviously so important that it pre-empts anything else. Hell’s bells, I bet they’d probably interrupt the President of the United States for that. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:04:59pm

good freaking grief.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:05:57pm

Just STFU.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:10:38pm

re: #332 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. So I watched live as Faux News interrupted their coverage of the Turkey airport terrorist bombings with the release of the BENGHAZI!!!!!! House Special Committee Report. Because of course that big fat nothingburger is obviously so important that it pre-empts anything else. Hell’s bells, I bet they’d probably interrupt the President of the United States for that. How go things among the lizardfolk?

4 dead Americans from 4 years ago are more important to Faux News than 50 or 60 Turks or people who went to Turkey and died today.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:12:46pm

re: #310 Shimshon

I think it’s sad I needed to put /s in there, how you didn’t see the obvious sarcasm is beyond me. I mean come on, “chequemix liberache” really??

But then again I’m fleeing so many comment sections like reddit and fark that are totally full stormfront where “sjw” (evil libs are the REAL nazis!) and “globalization” (jew bankers) are part of their argument and white genocide is totally a thing to them. so you never know all the nutters out there that seriously believe the dumbest things.

They’re all celebrating Trump and the Brexit, it’s proof that the majority in America and Britain are stormfronters like them.

my apologies - your imitation of a wingnut (“typical lib propaganda”) was too pitch perfect. :-) and i had no clue what to make of “chequemix liberache”…

i think this is what comes from spending too much time on my rather pointless habit of arguing with actual wingnuts. my only justification for it is to flush out the counterarguments and to plumb the extent of the yawning chasms of ignorance

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:14:38pm

re: #335 wrenchwench

4 dead Americans from 4 years ago are more important to Faux News than 50 or 60 Turks or people who went to Turkey and died today.

They’re waiting for Trump to pin that on Hillary, then they’ll be all over it.

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KerFuFFler  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:14:46pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

Yep, and ISIS destroyed the historicTemple of Bel in Palmyra, Syria…considered a great architectural significant treasure. I’m sure there are more such examples. All in the name of religion.

I really worry about the safety of the Gobekli Tepe archeological site in Southern Turkey. It is just a few miles away from ISIS controlled parts of Syria, and since it is the world’s oldest “temple” at 10,000 BC, it seems just like the kind of target they would love to hit. I am glad that a huge amount of the site is still under ground and relatively safe. The strike at the Turkish airport today is troubling———-though I don’t think we know yet if ISIS was responsible.

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:15:10pm

re: #336 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

my apologies - your imitation of a wingnut (“typical lib propaganda”) was too pitch perfect. :-) and i had no clue what to make of “chequemix liberache”…

i think this is what comes from spending too much time on my rather pointless habit of arguing with actual wingnuts. my only justification for it is to flush out the counterarguments and to plumb the extent of the yawning chasms of ignorance

I’m strictly read-only when it comes to places like RedState. I want to see what the other side is thinking, but engaging is pretty much pointless unless there’s a compelling reason (e.g., trying to prevent a friend or family member from going full wingnut).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:15:26pm

re: #336 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

my apologies - your imitation of a wingnut (“typical lib propaganda”) was too pitch perfect. :-) and i had no clue what to make of “chequemix liberache”…

i think this is what comes from spending too much time on my rather pointless habit of arguing with actual wingnuts. my only justification for it is to flush out the counterarguments and to plumb the extent of the yawning chasms of ignorance

Are you using copper pipe when you plumb those chasms?
//

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:16:00pm

re: #340 Blind Frog Belly White

Are you using copper pipe when you plumb those chasms?
//

Dude, copper’s expensive these days.

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electrotek  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:16:23pm

re: #335 wrenchwench

4 dead Americans from 4 years ago are more important to Faux News than 50 or 60 Turks or people who went to Turkey and died today.

They didn’t care for 70 dead Norwegian kids by their fellow traveler 5 years ago, we shouldn’t act so surprised about their apathy.

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jeffreyw  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:17:14pm

Imgur
Dinner time! Mmm… pork ‘n beans

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:17:19pm

re: #341 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Dude, copper’s expensive these days.

That’s what’s wrong with kids today! There’s never enough money to do it RIGHT, but there’s always enough to do it OVER!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:18:29pm

re: #342 electrotek

They didn’t care for 70 dead Norwegian kids by their fellow traveler 5 years ago, we shouldn’t act so surprised about their apathy.

Lone wolf…No connection…nobody could have predicted…not about guns, about mental illness….

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Scout  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:19:34pm

Doesn’t this photo make Trump look like one of those fish-frog people in the classic H.P. Lovecraft novella “The Shadow over Innsmouth”?

talkingpointsmemo.com

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electrotek  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:20:15pm

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

Lone wolf…No connection…nobody could have predicted…not about guns, about mental illness….

Remember how Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller had to eat crow and copped so much heat when it was revealed that Breivik was a big fanboy of their “works”?

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:22:02pm

re: #347 electrotek

Remember how Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller had to eat crow and copped so much heat when it was revealed that Breivik was a big fanboy of their “works”?

That would have been shortly after LongAndProud won the Unicorn Derby, IIRC.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:22:06pm

re: #347 electrotek

Remember how Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller had to eat crow and copped so much heat when it was revealed that Breivik was a big fanboy of their “works”?

Yeah, me neither.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:22:35pm

re: #341 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Dude, copper’s expensive these days.

The pipes, maybe. When it’s dug out of the ground (or extracted from what used to be waste piles) the price is at a 20-year low. One of the many, many reasons New Mexico is still 49th in things like child poverty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:24:49pm
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thedopefishlives  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:25:16pm

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lies, damn lies, and Donald J. Trump lies.

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electrotek  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:25:20pm

re: #349 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, me neither.

Russell Brand put Geller on the spotlight on his show when he brought it up to her. The reaction was hilarious, she was so scared and intimidated lol

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:25:21pm

re: #350 wrenchwench

The pipes, maybe. When it’s dug out of the ground (or extracted from what used to be waste piles) the price is at a 20-year low. One of the many, many reasons New Mexico is still 49th in things like child poverty.

I know copper wire has been a target of theft over the past few years. Presumably that represents a difference in the cost of processing old versus new, which I would guess might have increased due to safety/environmental regulations or something.

I’m mostly just pulling potentially plausible explanations out of mid-air, which I tend to excel at but can’t back up with specific facts (not without more research) so I should probably just go back to writing.

(And stressing about my fear of heights and the upcoming weekend hike.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:25:54pm

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That seems like all his campaign rallies.

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:26:51pm

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

How does this differ from every other Trump rally?

Trump has accomplished something truly remarkable. He lies significantly more often than generic Republicans do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:27:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:27:54pm

re: #356 EPR-radar

How does this differ from every other Trump rally?

Trump has accomplished something truly remarkable. He lies significantly more often than generic Republicans do.

What makes his lies fairly unique is a lot of his lies are about stupid stuff i.e. insisting to have the best memory and stuff like that. Then again, Paul Ryan lied about his marathon times too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:28:38pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Something tells me that Trump thinks the President can get whoever he wants indicted by decree.

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:29:27pm

re: #354 klys (maker of Silmarils)

(And stressing about my fear of heights and the upcoming weekend hike.)

My fear of heights would come and go. Eventually I found it was PMS related. Then it went away. Now I fear crossing streets. That’s going away, too. I’d offer advice, but it would be something dumb like, ‘Just wait. It might go away.’

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thedopefishlives  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:29:37pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Something tells me that Trump thinks the President can get whoever he wants indicted by decree.

I saw a Photoshop of Trump sitting on the Iron Throne. I imagine that’s probably the mental image he has of himself as President.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:30:16pm

re: #361 thedopefishlives

I saw a Photoshop of Trump sitting on the Iron Throne. I imagine that’s probably the mental image he has of himself as President.

King Donald I, House Trump, First of his name.

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:30:23pm

FUCK

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MsJ  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:30:51pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Something tells me that Trump thinks the President can get whoever he wants indicted by decree.

When you are dictator, yes, you can indict someone - anyone. You can find them guilty too and kill them - all without a trial.

That’s what Trump is running for, US Dictator.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:31:13pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

What makes his lies fairly unique is a lot of his lies are about stupid stuff i.e. insisting to have the best memory and stuff like that. Then again, Paul Ryan lied about his marathon times too.

Trump: “I am the greatest liar. No one lies like me. I tell the best lies. I’ll make America the Greatest liar ever! This I can lie to you. Bigly!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:31:30pm

re: #360 wrenchwench

My fear of heights would come and go. Eventually I found it was PMS related. Then it went away. Now I fear crossing streets. That’s going away, too. I’d offer advice, but it would be something dumb like, ‘Just wait. It might go away.’

Mine flared up HARD during a hike in Yellowstone about 7 years ago and has been very difficult to deal with since then. We’re doing a hike in the Sierras this weekend and I am turning into a ball of anxiety about it. I have found the elevation profile for the hike (the part I can’t skip/avoid) and tried my best to play with Google Earth at the worst spot on that to see how bad I think it will be and honestly it should be doable.

But trying to get the physiological responses to calm down is a different matter.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:31:32pm

re: #354 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know copper wire has been a target of theft over the past few years. Presumably that represents a difference in the cost of processing old versus new, which I would guess might have increased due to safety/environmental regulations or something.

I’m mostly just pulling potentially plausible explanations out of mid-air, which I tend to excel at but can’t back up with specific facts (not without more research) so I should probably just go back to writing.

(And stressing about my fear of heights and the upcoming weekend hike.)

Commodity prices.

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electrotek  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:31:54pm
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thedopefishlives  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:32:26pm

re: #368 electrotek

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What the actual fuck.

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makeitstop  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:32:41pm

re: #354 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know copper wire has been a target of theft over the past few years. Presumably that represents a difference in the cost of processing old versus new, which I would guess might have increased due to safety/environmental regulations or something.

A guy is renovating the house next door to us, and shortly after he bought it someone broke in and stripped the house of all the copper pipe. All of it.

They even took his electrical panel, which was extremely old and outdated. Presumably because there was copper in that, too.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:32:50pm

re: #364 MsJ

When you are dictator, yes, you can indict someone - anyone. You can find them guilty too and kill them - all without a trial.

That’s what Trump is running for, US Dictator.

Then it should be spelled Dicktater!

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Ming5000  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:32:56pm

re: #127 Franklin
Why can’t Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell keep me safe from the Zika?
Why won’t Republicans fund zika research?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:33:02pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Something tells me that Trump thinks the President can get whoever he wants indicted by decree.

Something tells me Trump doesn’t actually care whether or not he can get whoever he wants indicted, as long as his marks think he can.

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:33:34pm

re: #369 thedopefishlives

What the actual fuck.

Xenophobes and racists thinking they have the wind in their backs.

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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:33:48pm

re: #362 HappyWarrior

House Trump is like House Frey or Bolton. In the end, they will get their just desserts.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:35:05pm

re: #375 lawhawk

House Trump is like House Frey or Bolton. In the end, they will get their just desserts.

No spoilers please. Still behind.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:35:24pm

re: #373 Blind Frog Belly White

Something tells me Trump doesn’t actually care whether or not he can get whoever he wants indicted, as long as his marks think he can.

True but I think he’s that ignorant too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:35:28pm

re: #372 Ming5000

Why can’t Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell keep me safe from the Zika?
[Embedded image]Why won’t Republicans fund zika research?

“sanctity of innocent lives”

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:36:07pm

So what are the odds of Trump selecting Ivanka as his VP?

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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:36:13pm

re: #366 klys (maker of Silmarils)

But trying to get the physiological responses to calm down is a different matter.

Stop. Sit down. Breathe deeply. Get up. Run to catch up.

//

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:36:47pm

re: #379 Skip Intro

So what are the odds of Trump selecting Ivanka as his VP?

Lower than you may expect only because she has cooties.

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lawhawk  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:37:25pm

re: #376 HappyWarrior

No spoilers please. Still behind.

I am not going to give spoilers. Only tag lines: Winter is coming. All men must die.

And there’s a new badass in town, and she’s going to kick ass and take names (right up until she too is killed off since GRRM has turned Twitter into his personal kill zone. He absolutely kills 140 characters at a time.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:37:31pm

re: #380 wrenchwench

Stop. Sit down. Breathe deeply. Get up. Run to catch up.

//

Thanks. (And I do mean that. It made me smile, if nothing else.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:38:20pm

re: #376 HappyWarrior

No spoilers please. Still behind.

re: #379 Skip Intro

So what are the odds of Trump selecting Ivanka as his VP?

If he could, he’d have her as First Lady.

Mind you, you could lop the last 3 words off and still be right.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:38:36pm

re: #363 Teukka

FUCK

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re: #368 electrotek

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FALSE FLAG!!11!

I promise you, that will be said. I’ve seen Geller et al use it too many times.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:38:51pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m guessing this doesn’t include people like the Bundy gang or Operation Rescue or…
oh hells…I give up…

Or the KKK. He doesn’t know anything about the KKK, he will have to do research on them. He doesn’t know anything about them, OK?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:38:58pm

re: #370 makeitstop

A guy is renovating the house next door to us, and shortly after he bought it someone broke in and stripped the house of all the copper pipe. All of it.

They even took his electrical panel, which was extremely old and outdated. Presumably because there was copper in that, too.

There were cases here in Virginia of people stealing big-ass, commercial sized air conditioning units a couple years back.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:39:48pm

re: #379 Skip Intro

So what are the odds of Trump selecting Ivanka as his VP?

But he won’t get New York’s electoral votes then.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:40:54pm

re: #326 Kilroy01

Hmmmm lead.. sweet tasty lead

Here in Michigan we grow our own.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:41:01pm

re: #356 EPR-radar

How does this differ from every other Trump rally?

at this trump rally we relax and sit comfortably while being pandered and lied to

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:41:10pm

re: #388 Timothy Watson

But he won’t get New York’s electoral votes then.

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Why not? It didn’t hurt Bush/Cheney.

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:41:13pm

Great Uniter Trump brings AFL-CIO and Chamber of Commerce together for first time!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:41:30pm
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Timothy Watson  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:41:56pm

re: #391 Skip Intro

Why not? It didn’t hurt Bush/Cheney.

They got away with it by Cheney committing voter fraud.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:42:11pm

re: #382 lawhawk

I am not going to give spoilers. Only tag lines: Winter is coming. All men must die.

And there’s a new badass in town, and she’s going to kick ass and take names (right up until she too is killed off since GRRM has turned Twitter into his personal kill zone. He absolutely kills 140 characters at a time.

I was just teasing heh but yeah i need to catch up.

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:43:51pm
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:44:45pm

re: #393 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Come for the paycheck, stay for the Morale-Building Expertise.

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ObserverArt  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:45:12pm

re: #387 Timothy Watson

There were cases here in Virginia of people stealing big-ass, commercial sized air conditioning units a couple years back.

A few years back some dumbasses tried to steal some large copper connectors out of one of AEP’s substations here in Columbus. Fried themselves into smoking flesh. I guess they thought it was all 110V.

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:46:04pm

re: #394 Timothy Watson

I guess you’re right. Trump would never stoop to that.

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thedopefishlives  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:46:23pm

re: #393 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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In a nutshell, the reason why there’s a power imbalance between management and labor. But we don’t need unions, oh, hell no.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:46:35pm

re: #398 jaunte

Come for the paycheck, stay for the Morale-Building Expertise.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:48:01pm

re: #382 lawhawk

I am not going to give spoilers. Only tag lines: Winter is coming. All men must die.

“I prefer chicken.”

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Skip Intro  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:49:09pm

re: #397 gocart mozart

He didn’t say he had one of the world’s best memories; he said he had the world’s greatest memory, and everyone agrees about that.

“I have the world’s greatest memory. It’s one thing everyone agrees on,” Trump said at the time, according to NBC News.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:51:25pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:52:15pm

re: #404 Skip Intro

The world stand corrected then.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:53:28pm

re: #404 Skip Intro

He didn’t say he had one of the world’s best memories; he said he had the world’s greatest memory, and everyone agrees about that.

Also, “Despite having one of the all-time great memories, I certainly do not remember him.”

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EPR-radar  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:53:39pm

re: #393 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is the kind of thing that eventually leads to history rhyming with itself (i.e., France, 1789).

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gocart mozart  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:54:19pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:54:20pm

I’ve been to Istanbul.

Sad read, but good.

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451_Montag  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:54:45pm

Yeah… I went full Godwin. Never go full Godwin.

On a side note. Best description from Scotland called Herr Donald a “Sentient Enema”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:55:00pm

re: #408 EPR-radar

This is the kind of thing that eventually leads to history rhyming with itself (i.e., France, 1789).

What’s French for ‘Guillotine’?
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darthstar  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:55:09pm
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KerFuFFler  Jun 28, 2016 • 4:59:23pm

re: #411 451_Montag

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Yeah… I went full Godwin. Never go full Godwin.

On a side note. Best description from Scotland called Herr Donald a “Sentient Enema”

Should Trump win, then I guess we could call him enema of the state.

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thedopefishlives  Jun 28, 2016 • 5:04:47pm

re: #414 KerFuFFler

Should Trump win, then I guess we could call him enema of the state.

*WHACK!*

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Shimshon  Jun 28, 2016 • 5:20:56pm

re: #336 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

my apologies - your imitation of a wingnut (“typical lib propaganda”) was too pitch perfect. :-) and i had no clue what to make of “chequemix liberache”…

i think this is what comes from spending too much time on my rather pointless habit of arguing with actual wingnuts. my only justification for it is to flush out the counterarguments and to plumb the extent of the yawning chasms of ignorance

the chequemix liberache is a play on some nutters that finish a post “checkmate liberals”

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 28, 2016 • 7:21:47pm

re: #371 ObserverArt

Then it should be spelled Dicktater!

Dicktater
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De Kolta Chair  Jun 28, 2016 • 8:20:39pm

re: #417 Eventual Carrion

WTF???

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