Trump Threatens to Sue NY Times, Times Responds: Come at Us, Bro

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Donald Trump’s lawyer sent the following letter to the New York Times yesterday, threatening to sue them for libel over their article reporting on Trump’s alleged sexual abuse of two women.

Today the New York Times replied to this threat with a beautifully scathing letter that boils down to, “Go ahead and try.”

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228 comments

1
Dr Lizardo  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:41:51am

Heh, Mr. McGraw’s reply to Trump’s attorney is indeed a thing of beauty.

As Mark Twain once said, “Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel.”

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piratedan  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:41:54am

BOOM!

not so sure that NYT will be intimidated by DJT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:42:13am
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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:43:05am

“Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.”

This is a career highlight moment for Mr. McCraw.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:44:35am

My favorite line is: “We did what the law allows”.
Same thing donald said to justify that huge deduction to avoid paying taxes for the next 20 years.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:44:52am

Don’t worry folks. Trump has this in the bag. Anonymous has a sex tape of Bill and an underage girl.

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:44:57am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If I worked for Trump and watched that @FLOTUS speech, I would quietly pack up my things, walk out the door, and never come back.

need a better metaphor

all due respect to this one, it implies the hypothetical guy was good with trump up to now

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:45:43am

If you’re watching Fox News right now you don’t know any of this is going on.

You would be aware though that Clinton is “completely two faced” & “She is a shape shifting self serving liar”.

Projection much.

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:45:54am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

My favorite line is: “We did what the law allows”.
Same thing donald said to justify that huge deduction to avoid paying taxes for the next 20 years.

that’s a great observation!
i wonder if they meant that connection when they wrote it

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lawhawk  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:46:00am

NYT responds in kind. We’ve got the law on our side, and we know how to use it.

Oh, and I love the final sentence. We welcome the opportunity to have a court set Trump straight. Trump gets that. A lot. A lot.

The NYT gets this kind of pushback from time to time from the focus of some of its reporting. They know how this goes. Someone threatens action. NYT responds - you’re a public figure, we’re reporting what was stated, and in your case, what these women are stating confirms what you said in prior statements, so it’s not only newsworthy, but essentially confirms what we’ve reported.

Trump’s a public figure. There’s a super high bar for him to jump in order to prove his claims. He’s claiming they’re bogus.

He also claims that he’s going to release info at the appropriate time that will disprove. All of that is a smokescreen for fact that he’s got nothing. With less than a month to go, he doesn’t have time to wait. There’s no info, but his lawyers can’t say that. They have nothing, but they’re hoping to bluster the NYT into a retraction.

Moreover, this goes to Trump’s statements earlier this year about changing the defamation laws in the US. He wants to be able to silence dissent - particularly those who criticize him.

Those are the words/deeds of an authoritarian (who also happens to be a fascist).

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:46:01am

The NYT response was good but I still would have liked this one better.

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Franklin  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:47:51am

re: #7 dangerman

need a better metaphor

all due respect to this one, it implies the hypothetical guy was good with trump up to now

I thought it worked. It was basically saying, after @FLOTUS speech, it’s over. Pack it in and go home. If that’s now when the tweeter meant, then you are right, it doesn’t work!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:49:17am

The kinda people I deal with.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:50:12am

re: #10 lawhawk

“Appropriate time”… his supporters are ok with this, after they blame these women for waiting until now to tell their stories.

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:50:16am

Oh BTW Benghazi LIBTURDS!!!
///

OK I’m turning off Fox now.

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Jayleia  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:51:34am

re: #9 dangerman

Yes. It was intentional. The NYT’s lawyers are probably among the best, because the NYT can afford the best.

They don’t make multiple *accidental* references to Trump’s own words. Those were intentional…because they are baiting Trump (whether its just for fun, or whether they want him to walk into something is another story).

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gocart mozart  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:52:13am

If you want to read up on politicians suing newspapers, this is the relevant case.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:52:20am

re: #6 GlutenFreeJesus

Don’t worry folks. Trump has this in the bag. Anonymous has a sex tape of Bill and an underage girl.

Stored in the same place as the tape with Michelle saying “whitey?”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:52:53am

re: #18 Big Beautiful Door

No doubt! On the same shelf even.

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KGxvi  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:53:13am

re: #4 EPR-radar

“Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.”

This is a career highlight moment for Mr. McCraw.

As a lawyer, there are cases every once in a while, where you get to write stuff that just makes you giddy.

I always find it funny when I get a demand letter like the one Trump’s attorney sent that includes no reference to statutory or case law. That’s usually a tell. Though as I said last night, my response would have been to just send copies of New York Times v US and Sullivan v New York Times… and for that matter, any other Supreme Court case that the Times has won over the years.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:55:30am

OT: Sorry for going off-topic so soon, but I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet and it’s important for people with elderly parents:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:56:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:57:04am

from FLOTUS’s speech today:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:57:52am

re: #20 KGxvi

I would have just sent a bag o NUTS to them. :))))

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:58:19am

re: #12 Franklin

I thought it worked. It was basically saying, after @FLOTUS speech, it’s over. Pack it in and go home. If that’s now when the tweeter meant, then you are right, it doesn’t work!

there are so many start contrasts in this campaign i still sometimes am in some kind of awe that it is happening

- i watched some of her speech. compare that only to his speech today
- clinton has that page on her website - what was i and donald doing in any particular year - a life of public service vs his
- obviously experienced and qualified senator and sos, (let alone first lady and all that) vs knowledge maybe only slightly higher that Mr. “A lepo”
- the first woman winning a major party nom, etc…(and not just any “woman”) vs a pig of a man wrt to women, wearing, flaunting and deploying his pig status as some kind of qualifying asset
- thats before the investigations by the horsemen: fahrenthold, eichenwald, olbermann, etc

and we havent even got to policy yet

biden, obama, m. obama, warren, sanders etc have all done a remarkable job keeping this discourse elevated. especially m. obama

i think the enduring ine will be “when they go low we go high”

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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:58:52am
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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:58:56am

Bit of fun.

I found this one.

Giphy

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KGxvi  Oct 13, 2016 • 11:59:02am

re: #24 GlutenFreeJesus

I would have just sent a bag o NUTS to them. :))))

Or they could go with this

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:01:20pm

Slowly but surely the empire will collapse.
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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:02:38pm

re: #26 Kragar

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6. I hate to say it but maybe this is a movement of sort, bringing up to the surface all those subterranean forces forgotten long ago.

the last time that happened noah built a boat…

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:02:39pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

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Slowly but surely the empire will collapse.

That is why there is a lot of speculation he will create a media empire to monetize his alt-right base.

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:03:09pm

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

That is why there is a lot of speculation he will create a media empire to monetize his alt-right base.

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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:03:46pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:04:13pm

I fear he may well be correct in that observation.
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CuriousLurker  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:04:31pm

Police have identified Kurt Figueroa, 33, a Boston constable, as the suspect killed after shooting two Boston police officers responding to a domestic incident late Wednesday, officials said. […]

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:04:49pm

re: #33 Kragar

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He’ll release it when Melania has her news conference about her immigration status in the nineties.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:05:03pm

Fox’s Lou Dobbs Tweets Out Personal Info On One Of Trump’s Accusers

Lou Dobbs is now in Rage Furby territory. Hopefully Twitter bans him.

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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:06:45pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:07:07pm

re: #36 Big Beautiful Door

His pussy grabbing is under audit so he can’t release his information right now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:10:00pm
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CuriousLurker  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:12:35pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

from FLOTUS’s speech today:

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Video of the same:

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KGxvi  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:13:41pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

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I fear he may well be correct in that observation.

I’m not a fan of Clinton, but because of what Trump represents, I want to see her run up the score at this point. He needs to be soundly defeated so that the alt-right and the wingularity will understand that they truly are deplorable.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:13:46pm

re: #18 Big Beautiful Door

Stored in the same place as the tape with Michelle saying “whitey?”

I hope they don’t confuse it with the tape of Muslims cheering in the streets following 9/11.

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W of O. The Time Zone Warrior.  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:15:37pm

We remember how the greatest Republican of all time reacted to German command demands.

NUTS!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:15:45pm
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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:17:03pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:17:50pm

re: #42 KGxvi

I’m not a fan of Clinton, but because of what Trump represents, I want to see her run up the score at this point. He needs to be soundly defeated so that the alt-right and the wingularity will understand that they truly are deplorable.

They will never understand that. We need a landslide to help produce a wave election to give the Democrats control of Congress and get some progressive legislation passed to move the country forward.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:18:46pm

re: #46 Kragar

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I’m not sure its possible to have less credibility than Sean Hannity.

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KGxvi  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:18:55pm

I’m not sure if this is real irony or Alanis Morrissette irony, but Trump is now basically coming out in favor of brain damage:

“The woman was out cold, and now she’s coming back,” Trump told the crowd. “See? We don’t go by these new and very much softer NFL rules. Concussion, oh! Oh! Got a little ding on the head, no, no, you can’t play for the rest of the season. Our people are tough!”

The “Our people are tough!” bit is also a pretty standard fascist move, isn’t it? Part of the idea of restoring someone who believes they’ve been improperly displaced from power.

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Teukka  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:19:35pm

re: #47 Big Beautiful Door

They will never understand that. We need a landslide to help produce a wave election to give the Democrats control of Congress and get some progressive legislation passed to move the country forward.

I hope for an “oopsie” which either makes the involvement of Vlad & the Kremlin Crew or something of similar magnitude painfully clear.

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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:20:03pm

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

That is why there is a lot of speculation he will create a media empire to monetize his alt-right base.

Who will advertise on it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:20:40pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Who will advertise on it?

social media….

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Teukka  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:20:46pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Who will advertise on it?

Rushbo and Alex are given…
*ducks*

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:20:57pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:22:18pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Who will advertise on it?

The usual. Gold, survival seeds, reverse mortgages, homeopathic remedies, ED pills.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:22:39pm

Here it is. Must watch.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:22:40pm

Up early for work tomorrow. Goodnight, Lizards.

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:22:42pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Who will advertise on it?

Survival seeds and Super Male Vitality tinctures and creams and multi-level marketing schools.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:22:49pm

yes. this.

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:22:56pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Who will advertise on it?

trump steaks
trump water
trump chairs (see previous thread)

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:23:34pm

I will be checking on the freepers on election night, and will post choice nuggets of their misery and suffering for your viewing pleasure.

I know we are not sadists here, but these people fucking deserve every bit of it and more.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:23:41pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yes. this.

I’m sure there are hundreds, if not thousands.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:24:08pm

re: #54 Dr. Matt

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What’s even worse, it wasn’t even her real phone number.
I feel sorry for whomever’s number it really is.

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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:24:15pm

re: #54 Dr. Matt

Dobbs may be invincible because he has the only show with ratings on FBN. I think he calls it The Birther Hour.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:24:20pm

Trump’s Scottish golf resorts report 2015 losses

A pair of luxe Scottish golf resorts operated by Donald Trump suffered millions of dollars in losses during 2015, according to recent filings with a U.K. government agency, adding another complication to Trump’s pitch for the White House, in which he has frequently emphasized his business acumen.

Golf Recreation Scotland Limited, which operates the Trump Turnberry luxury resort in Ayrshire, reported a loss of about 8.4 million British pounds (about $12.4 million at the time) in 2015, according to a filing with Companies House, an agency that collects information from companies and makes it available to the public.

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KGxvi  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:24:45pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Who will advertise on it?

They’ll make it an app and charge $9.99 a month. Which, all joking aside, seems to be the way a lot of things are going - HBO and Showtime now have apps independent of cable that run in the $14.99 and $10.99 respectively; WWE has their app/network that runs $9.99 a month; CBS offers something similar; and then there’s Hulu and Netflix.

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:24:57pm

In case anyone missed it, French President Hollande apparently made some comments about Islam that has really stuck a chord with the far right. He’s supposed to indicate soon if he’ll run again, but from his posturing wrt Muslims I gather that he will try to triangulate on the emerging far right movement in France.

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:25:03pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sad, but I’m sure there are more women Trump sexually assaulted who are watching this & thinking its best to keep quiet than go through this

yes. this.

why more women don’t report sexual assault, harassment, etc…….

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:25:18pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:26:39pm

re: #64 Skip Intro

Dobbs may be invincible because he has the only show with ratings on FBN. I think he calls it The Birther Hour.

FBN is like half paid advertising. Losers.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:27:27pm

‘You’re On Your Own’: FBN Host Stunned by Curt Schilling Defending Lewd Trump Remark

Schilling argued to Regan today, “How many times have you looked at a young man and said ‘Wow, he’s a beautiful young man’ or ‘Wow he’s a gorgeous young man’?”

Regan said, “Zero.” Schilling called that a “lie” because, he insisted, “there’s no way you haven’t seen somebody else’s son and said ‘Wow, he’s beautiful.’”

Regan responded, “And thought I oughta be dating him? No, sorry You’re on your own on this one.”

The Deplorables are actually defending pedophilia. Wow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:27:57pm

Just talked to MrBWS and told him donald would be in Cincinnati tonight.
He said he was relieved to still be slogging through floodwater and mud restoring electric in NC and to let him know when it’s safe to come back.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:28:01pm

re: #14 GlutenFreeJesus

“Appropriate time”… his supporters are ok with this, after they blame these women for waiting until now to tell their stories.

I question the timing.

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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:28:05pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:30:05pm

re: #65 Dr. Matt

Trump’s Scottish golf resorts report 2015 losses

I hope Scotland bans him for life for being such a despicable person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:30:17pm

Michael Tracey is a loon.

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:31:24pm

re: #62 Big Beautiful Door

I’m sure there are hundreds, if not thousands.

before he decided to run there had to be *some* discussion/thought(?) other than policy positions, about taxes, history, etc what could hurt him

how did they not think one woman wouldnt come forward whether this tape surfaced or not

look, i get this. i know the answer
which takes it to a whole different level of deluded and stupid
you’re barely going to be articulate, let alone compete on policy

so dismissing this avalanche / dam breaking, just waiting to spew as not a real threat to the potential campaign, is an extra kind of total self disqualification for the office. the break with any objective reality started way back then before he announced. not just now

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lawhawk  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:32:13pm

re: #74 Kragar

1990s Daryl Hannah.

Heck 2010s Daryl Hannah is attractive. Period. And she could totally kick Donny’s ass with a Hanzo blade too.

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ericblair  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:32:20pm

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

That is why there is a lot of speculation he will create a media empire to monetize his alt-right base.

Good luck with that. That’s one saturated market segment, because they all know what kind of credulous morons inhabit it and what kind of advertising will pay for those idiot eyeballs.

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:33:23pm

re: #71 Dr. Matt

‘You’re On Your Own’: FBN Host Stunned by Curt Schilling Defending Lewd Trump Remark

The Deplorables are actually defending pedophilia. Wow.

you defend a pig, youre a pig

(i havent had to say it in like 15 minutes)

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:33:59pm

Gina Loudon just said there’s a video of Bill on Gateway pundit groping a woman.

CNN
um. OK.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:35:09pm

re: #71 Dr. Matt

‘You’re On Your Own’: FBN Host Stunned by Curt Schilling Defending Lewd Trump Remark

The Deplorables are actually defending pedophilia. Wow.

Damn morally relativistic, gay sex approving, depraved liberals.

//

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:35:48pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

Gina Loudon just said there’s a video of Bill on Gateway pundit groping a woman.

CNN
um. OK.

who is this?

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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:36:04pm
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Tigger2  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:37:01pm

re: #78 lawhawk

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1990s Daryl Hannah.

Heck 2010s Daryl Hannah is attractive. Period. And she could totally kick Donny’s ass with a Hanzo blade too.

Yep I made a Tweet that said I thought she was a 12 but deleted it, I never rated ladies on their looks.

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Lidane  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:37:38pm

That letter from David McCraw is a very restrained, lawyerly way of saying “LOL no, eat a bag of dicks”.

I love it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:37:54pm

re: #79 ericblair

Good luck with that. That’s one saturated market segment, because they all know what kind of credulous morons inhabit it and what kind of advertising will pay for those idiot eyeballs.

But after this presidential run, the Trump brand will draw a lot of credulous, moronic eyeballs.

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:38:06pm

So, our Republican U.S. Senate candidate forked over $600K for a statewide TV ad buy. It’s a goddamn P90X commercial!

Underdog

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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:38:41pm

re: #71 Dr. Matt

So what is Curt Schilling doing on an alleged “business channel”? Is FBN the minor league training ground for Fox “News”?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:39:06pm

Sorry, this is a bit long. But, it shows an important point.
Initial reporting, in an effort to be “first”, is often inaccurate

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:39:09pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

Gina Loudon just said there’s a video of Bill on Gateway pundit groping a woman.

CNN
um. OK.

Good thing Bill isn’t running for POTUS. *rolls eyes*

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:39:23pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

FBN is where they put those even to nuts for Fox News.

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:39:55pm

re: #85 Tigger2

Yep I made a Tweet that said I thought she was a 12 but deleted it, I never rated ladies on their looks.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:43:34pm

SMOTI finds a new, desperate low

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KGxvi  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:44:19pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

I do kind of wonder what they’ll have Bill do during a Hillary Clinton administration. It will be strange not only because we’ve never had a First Gentleman before, but also because he has the qualifications for a lot of political appointments.

I could see something like appointing Bill as UN Ambassador and having Chelsea serve in the more traditional First Lady role.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:45:32pm

re: #83 Sir John Barron

who is this?

RWNJ

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:45:36pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:45:54pm
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Alephnaught  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:47:22pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:48:44pm

re: #94 Dr. Matt

WOW!

Let me guess: the video proves nothing of the sort.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:48:45pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

Sorry, this is a bit long. But, it shows an important point.
Initial reporting, in an effort to be “first”, is often inaccurate

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Fuckers.

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:48:45pm

re: #94 Dr. Matt

Wow! Huge if true!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:49:10pm

That video at Jim Hoft’s shitty blog does not show Bill Clinton groping anyone.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:49:50pm

re: #94 Dr. Matt

SMOTI finds a new, desperate low

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RWNJ on CNN said it was Bill groping someone on a plane.

LOL

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:49:58pm

re: #95 KGxvi

I do kind of wonder what they’ll have Bill do during a Hillary Clinton administration. It will be strange not only because we’ve never had a First Gentleman before, but also because he has the qualifications for a lot of political appointments.

I could see something like appointing Bill as UN Ambassador and having Chelsea serve in the more traditional First Lady role.

Hillary said in a speech she would put Bill in charge of the economy, whatever that means.

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Lidane  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:50:12pm

Oh great. I’m getting the long-winded FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD: emails from my Republican relatives now, babbling about “Catholic insults” and why no one should vote Hillary.

Can it be November 9th already?

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:50:23pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

WOW!

Let me guess: the video proves nothing of the sort.

My guess it is anonymous trolling SMOTI.

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Jay C  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:51:29pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

That video at Jim Hoft’s shitty blog does not show Bill Clinton groping anyone.

But it MIGHT!!!

So that makes it ACTUALLY REAL and YUUUUGEEE!!!!!!

(/only half sarc: I’m sure some RWNJ will make this very point)

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:51:50pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

That video at Jim Hoft’s shitty blog does not show Bill Clinton groping anyone.

What does it show? I prefer not to click on SMOTI’s shitty blog.

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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:52:34pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:53:03pm

re: #106 Lidane

Oh great. I’m getting the long-winded FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD: emails from my Republican relatives now, babbling about “Catholic insults” and why no one should vote Hillary.

Can it be November 9th already?

My vacation cannot come soon enough.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:54:12pm

re: #108 Jay C

But it MIGHT!!!

So that makes it ACTUALLY REAL and YUUUUGEEE!!!!!!

(/only half sarc: I’m sure some RWNJ will make this very point)

It might if Hillary didn’t control the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the NSC, NCIS Los Angeles, Law & Order SVU and NCIS New Orleans.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:55:16pm

re: #109 Big Beautiful Door

What does it show? I prefer not to click on SMOTI’s shitty blog.

Nothing. It’s one of those absurd Anonymous videos boasting about how they’re everywhere, they never forget, etc. and it shows nothing at all.

It links to this ridiculously bad Kremlin propaganda site: archive.is

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:55:54pm

re: #33 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Call me crazy, but a half-assed excuse is not “Breaking News,” AP. It’s not even really news. It’s all we’ve received from Trump for months now. Every time a story breaks that looks bad for him, we get a half-assed excuse and then silence.

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:57:49pm

TFW Trump can’t even handle a Hannity interview.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:58:07pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Nothing. It’s one of those absurd Anonymous videos boasting about how they’re everywhere, they never forget, etc. and it shows nothing at all.

It links to this ridiculously bad Kremlin propaganda site: archive.is

The real problem with this election is I might die from laughing at any given SMOTI post.

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Tigger2  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:58:08pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Nothing. It’s one of those absurd Anonymous videos boasting about how they’re everywhere, they never forget, etc. and it shows nothing at all.

It links to this ridiculously bad Kremlin propaganda site: archive.is

I doubt it’s even the real Anonymous.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:58:16pm

Article from Tuesday, just saw it today:

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2016 • 12:58:51pm

It’s a sign of how I could never handle being a reporter because the moment a Trump campaign surrogate told me that the proof would be out “soon,” would have shot back “Will that be before or after Melania gives her speech about her immigration status?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:01:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:02:35pm

Diamond and Silk both look exactly as I imagine Sister Bertha Betterthanyou in Mississippi Squirrel Revival.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:02:38pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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who are they?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:03:41pm

re: #122 Sir John Barron

who are they?

Trump’s “black ladies” who often do warmups at his rallies.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:03:56pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:05:52pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

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You know, if it wasn’t for the long list of famous deaths, I’ve almost be tickled pink by how 2016 has gone.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:06:54pm

re: #71 Dr. Matt

‘You’re On Your Own’: FBN Host Stunned by Curt Schilling Defending Lewd Trump Remark

The Deplorables are actually defending pedophilia. Wow.

Jesus wept.

I can’t think of anything else to say.

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Jay C  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:08:54pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

“Brass and card”! That’s cold…..
Also: I noticed they have already re-done the SC letterhead: the wheels of justice may grind slow in Alabama, but the printing press is busy…..

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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:08:58pm
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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:10:00pm
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Scottishdragon  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:11:05pm

re: #109 Big Beautiful Door

What does it show? I prefer not to click on SMOTI’s shitty blog.

Pretty sure the claim was made simply to drive clicks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:11:40pm

OTOH, there’s the classic “What’s she mad about? She should be grateful…”

*spit*

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:11:53pm

re: #127 Jay C

“Brass and card”! That’s cold…..
Also: I noticed they have already re-done the SC letterhead: the wheels of justice may grind slow in Alabama, but the printing press is busy…..

Printing press? Microsoft Office

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:12:17pm

Imagine my surprise that Chuck C. Johnson is now lamely trying to smear People reporter Natasha Stoynoff.

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Belafon  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:12:32pm

re: #130 Scottishdragon

Pretty sure the claim was made simply to drive clicks.

It also allows people to say “SEE, BILL CLINTON DID IT TOO!!” No one’s going to actually watch the video.

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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:13:34pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:14:14pm

re: #115 jaunte

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TFW Trump can’t even handle a Hannity interview.

Trump’s an old man. There’s a limit to how much fluffing by Hannity he can take.

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:15:23pm

re: #71 Dr. Matt

‘You’re On Your Own’: FBN Host Stunned by Curt Schilling Defending Lewd Trump Remark

The Deplorables are actually defending pedophilia. Wow.

Curt’s just warming up for his run against Elizabeth Warren to be followed by his presidential run. Instead of red hats, he’ll use bloody socks for his campaign. Such an asshole.

(but CNN has the intellectual rambling of fucking Andre Bauer, calling women on his panel darlin’ while discussing Trump, because Andre is a southern gentleman. I really and truly don’t understand why that little troll is on the teevee machine.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:15:47pm

re: #136 EPR-radar

Trump’s an old man. There’s a limit to how much fluffing by Hannity he can take.

Brain bleach please!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:15:53pm

So this Deplorable followed me. Automatic Blocking Function activated. Not following me any more.

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austin_blue  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:16:11pm

In other news, a New Jersey Bridge Troll has been ordered to the Courthouse:

cnn.com

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Scottishdragon  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:16:41pm

re: #136 EPR-radar

Trump’s an old man. There’s a limit to how much fluffing by Hannity he can take.

Hannity needs to suck on a couple of ice cubes after all that. His jaw can only take so much prolonged fellatio.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:17:25pm

re: #137 BeachDem

Curt’s just warming up for his run against Elizabeth Warren to be followed by his presidential run. Instead of red hats, he’ll use bloody socks for his campaign. Such an asshole.

(but CNN has the intellectual rambling of fucking Andre Bauer, calling women on his panel darlin’ while discussing Trump, because Andre is a southern gentleman. I really and truly don’t understand why that little troll is on the teevee machine.)

That video on CNN just sank any chance he has in Massachusetts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:17:47pm

Wonder if Trump’s plane is flying to CVG. If so, odds are good he’ll get stuck in traffic on the Brent Spence Bridge where you never know when a chunk of concrete is going to fall on your vehicle…

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:18:13pm
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Kragar  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:18:14pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:18:36pm

re: #94 Dr. Matt

SMOTI finds a new, desperate low

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There is actual, deposed testimony in federal court that Donald Trump raped a 13-year-old procured for him by the selfsame Jeffrey Epstein.

SMOTI has some bogus bullshit.

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:18:39pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

Gina Loudon just said there’s a video of Bill on Gateway pundit groping a woman.

CNN
um. OK.

Gina Loudon? Apparently Andre Bauer couldn’t stick around for any more segments, so they went to the well…

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:21:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:22:13pm

re: #147 BeachDem

Gina Loudon? Apparently Andre Bauer couldn’t stick around for any more segments, so they went to the well…

Dr. Gina Loudon…one of Sarah Palin’s besties and a total nutjob.

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:22:15pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

Gina Loudon just said there’s a video of Bill on Gateway pundit groping a woman.

CNN
um. OK.

This person?
Gina Loudon Writes 2,000-Word Essay About Her Teen Daughter Dating a 57-Year-Old Actor
riverfronttimes.com

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Skip Intro  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:22:17pm

There really is no bottom with the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:22:42pm

re: #150 jaunte

This person?
Gina Loudon Writes 2,000-Word Essay About Her Teen Daughter Dating a 57-Year-Old Actor
riverfronttimes.com

that’s her.

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jaunte  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:23:17pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reality TV politics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:24:26pm
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Scottishdragon  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:26:14pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

that’s her.

Gina goes on to tell us how mature and wise her daughter is “pure.”

“Lyda is committed to waiting until she is married to have sex,” writes Dr. Gina. “She is so committed to virginity that she gave her little sister a purity ring for her birthday, and I sat in awe as I listened to the wisdom of this big sister speak.”

According to Lyda’s website, she runs organizations geared toward millenials (although it’s not clear what those organizations actually do), so her father asked an appropriate question: “Why can’t she find a nice millennial boy?”

But Gina explains that was just a ridiculous notion: “He almost laughed at himself for asking the question. While there are certainly exceptions, career-minded, committed patriots who are equally yoked with Lyda Loudon are rare.”

The jokes make themselves.

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KGxvi  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:28:13pm

re: #145 Kragar

that’s one of those things that kind of tilts the scales in Clinton’s favor, isn’t it?

Also, to prove just how much of a political junkie I am (and just how many times I’ve relapsed), every time I hear Gary Bauer’s name, this is the first thing that pops into my head:

Gary Bauer Falling Off Stage

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:29:18pm

re: #142 Scottishdragon

That video on CNN just sank any chance he has in Massachusetts.

So we’re talking negative numbers, eh?

Even my avid Bosox fan relatives (other than wingnut brother) can’t stand Schilling.

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:31:18pm

re: #151 Skip Intro

There really is no bottom with the GOP.

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That’s pretty much the next stop on the crazy train: “Yeah, he’s a sexual predator, but at least he doesn’t have an illegitimate child!”

At this point, do they really want to roll those dice? They’ve been coming up Natural 1s again and again, do they really want to bet on Trump not having an illegitimate child hiding out there somewhere?

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Franklin  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:31:22pm

re: #157 BeachDem

So we’re talking negative numbers, eh?

Even my avid Bosox fan relatives (other than wingnut brother) can’t stand Schilling.

I’m about as die hard a Red Sox fan as they come. He’s an asshole.

Thanks for 2004, now go f*ck yourself.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:31:26pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

that’s her.

what the what?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:32:26pm

re: #156 KGxvi

that’s one of those things that kind of tilts the scales in Clinton’s favor, isn’t it?

Also, to prove just how much of a political junkie I am (and just how many times I’ve relapsed), every time I hear Gary Bauer’s name, this is the first thing that pops into my head:

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Gary Bauer falling off the debate stage is still a more a dignified campaign than Trump’s.

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:32:39pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dr. Gina Loudon…one of Sarah Palin’s besties and a total nutjob.

Oh I know—I remember her well. Was just trying to mull over whether “doctor” Gina was a step up or down from Andre Bauer. CNN is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Which just made me wonder—have we heard from Dana Magunz lately?

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Franklin  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:33:31pm

For some more Schilling fun, see this tweet thread here:

thebiglead.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:33:55pm

re: #162 BeachDem

Oh I know—I remember her well. Was just trying to mull over whether “doctor” Gina was a step up or down from Andre Bauer. CNN is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Which just made me wonder—have we heard from Dana Magunz lately?

VB posted a tweet by her saying liberals who criticize Trump for wanting to jail Clinton are hypocritical because of liberal support for people on the no fly list not being able to buy guns.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:34:36pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

VB posted a tweet by her saying liberals who criticize Trump for wanting to jail Clinton are hypocritical because of liberal support for people on the no fly list not being able to buy guns.

LOLwhut?

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danarchy  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:35:17pm

re: #162 BeachDem

Oh I know—I remember her well. Was just trying to mull over whether “doctor” Gina was a step up or down from Andre Bauer. CNN is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Which just made me wonder—have we heard from Dana Magunz lately?

Last I saw her was a crappy commercial pimping this stuff:

SuperBeets

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:35:41pm

re: #165 Sir John Barron

LOLwhut?

Yeah that’s what I said too. But what do you expect from someone who thinks about how gun owners are victims 24/7/365?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:35:43pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

That’s pretty much the next stop on the crazy train: “Yeah, he’s a sexual predator, but at least he doesn’t have an illegitimate child!”

At this point, do they really want to roll those dice? They’ve been coming up Natural 1s again and again, do they really want to bet on Trump not having an illegitimate child hiding out there somewhere?

And the challenge will be accepted to find the child!

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:35:48pm

re: #159 Franklin

I’m about as die hard a Red Sox fan as they come. He’s an asshole.

Thanks for 2004, now go f*ck yourself.

Maybe he should try running in RI—yeah, that’s the ticket—he’s incredibly popular there.//////////////////////////////////

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:36:37pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

VB posted a tweet by her saying liberals who criticize Trump for wanting to jail Clinton are hypocritical because of liberal support for people on the no fly list not being able to buy guns.

and cheerios, dont forget the cheerios

makes as much sense

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:37:01pm

re: #169 BeachDem

Maybe he should try running in RI—yeah, that’s the ticket—he’s incredibly popular there.//////////////////////////////////

He’s actually from Alaska originally so maybe he’d run there. God he’s an asshole. Terrific pitcher and I say that as a fan of a division rival but he’s an asshole.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:37:20pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

VB posted a tweet by her saying liberals who criticize Trump for wanting to jail Clinton are hypocritical because of liberal support for people on the no fly list not being able to buy guns.

That was Dana “Muhgunz” Loesch

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Mattand  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:38:47pm

If you stop and think about it for a minute, all Trump had to do in 2011 was ignore Obama ragging on him at the Correspondents’ Dinner, and he could have spent the final 10-15 years of his life in the alternate reality his father created for him way back when.

Now? It’s entirely possible his entire world could crashing down in November. Mainly because his racism and ego couldn’t ignore the fact that a black guy was making fun of him.

What a horrible human being.

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nickzi  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:40:14pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

That video at Jim Hoft’s shitty blog does not show Bill Clinton groping anyone.

Next up: film evidence emerges of Bill Clinton giving children a tour of a chocolate factory in the course of which “conservative children” mysteriously disappear…..

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Mattand  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:41:00pm

re: #159 Franklin

I’m about as die hard a Red Sox fan as they come. He’s an asshole.

Thanks for 2004, now go f*ck yourself.

He was a driving force in the Phils’ out-of-nowhere 1993 World Series appearance. Christ, it was 23 years ago now, but I don’t remember him being such an asswipe.

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dangerman  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:41:35pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

That’s pretty much the next stop on the crazy train: “Yeah, he’s a sexual predator, but at least he doesn’t have an illegitimate child!”

At this point, do they really want to roll those dice? They’ve been coming up Natural 1s again and again, do they really want to bet on Trump not having an illegitimate child hiding out there somewhere?

i hate to be the one to overstate the effing obvious flip side - do they really want to be on trump not having ever paid for an abortion?

(ok i dont hate it)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:42:21pm

I’m having to check which Twitter lists I’m on pretty frequently lately, because all kinds of Nazis and alt-right scumbags are putting me on their lists. Just blocked three more of these creeps.

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:42:26pm

re: #163 Franklin

For some more Schilling fun, see this tweet thread here:

thebiglead.com

Heh. Schilling calling anyone a “special kind of stupid” has broken the time/space irony continuum.

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:43:12pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

VB posted a tweet by her saying liberals who criticize Trump for wanting to jail Clinton are hypocritical because of liberal support for people on the no fly list not being able to buy guns.

So she’s making about as much sense as usual?

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SteelPH  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:43:51pm

re: #173 Mattand

If you stop and think about it for a minute, all Trump had to do in 2011 was ignore Obama ragging on him at the Correspondents’ Dinner, and he could have spent the final 10-15 years of his life in the alternate reality his father created for him way back when.

Now? It’s entirely possible his entire world could crashing down in November. Mainly because his racism and ego couldn’t ignore the fact that a black guy was making fun of him.

What a horrible human being.

Trump has absolutely no impulse control.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:45:07pm

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

That was Dana “Muhgunz” Loesch

Yeah, I know.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:45:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:45:52pm

re: #179 BeachDem

So she’s making about as much sense as usual?

Aye.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:46:33pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

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You know for all their tough guy talk, these guys are a bunch of pansies. See how they cried like babies when Hillary called them deplorable.

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CuriousLurker  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:46:52pm

Especially damning (not to mention nauseating) when you read them one after another, after another. Seeing all the photos of him with his daughter are… *shudder*

Keep a barf bag handy.

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freetoken  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:47:30pm

Regarding all these religious people still clinging to Drumpfskind, I conclude this is all boils down to the death-of-God problem, with which Europe has had to tackle post WWI and post WWII.

Basically, Drumpfskind is a surrogate for “guns and Bible”, to which they cling.

Quite the surrogate… but there it is.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:47:31pm

re: #175 Mattand

He was a driving force in the Phils’ out-of-nowhere 1993 World Series appearance. Christ, it was 23 years ago now, but I don’t remember him being such an asswipe.

He was with the Orioles when I was real young. He actually and I hate to give him some credit does good things for ALS research but he’s a bigoted asshole.

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SteelPH  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:47:48pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

You know for all their tough guy talk, these guys are a bunch of pansies. See how they cried like babies when Hillary called them deplorable.

And then attempted an Insult Backfire, which only gives rational people an easier way to identify them so as not to associate with them.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:48:30pm

re: #180 SteelPH

Trump has absolutely no impulse control.

Trump absolutely cannot let any slight go unpunished.

He always hits back and will always try to do more damage than he perceived he took from the accuser or critic.

That is why I think there is a possibility he will go directly at the women who came forward. It fits the pattern that he had with bankrupting contractors who would try and take him to court by prolonging court actions until they could no longer afford the lawyers. Even if it cost him more money in legal fees then what he stiffed the contractor…he has to establish dominance and punish his enemies.

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:48:32pm

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

That was Dana “Muhgunz” Loesch

Yeah, talk of “doctor” Gina made me wonder what Muhgunz had been up to lately.

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:49:07pm

re: #186 freetoken

Regarding all these religious people still clinging to Drumpfskind, I conclude this is all boils down to the death-of-God problem, with which Europe has had to tackle post WWI and post WWII.

Basically, Drumpfskind is a surrogate for “guns and Bible”, to which they cling.

Quite the surrogate… but there it is.

A lot of evangelicals are supporting Pence, not Trump. Whether it’s because they think Trump will be a figurehead and Pence the real power behind the throne, or they think Trump will be impeached and Pence elevated to the presidency, either way they see a true-believer will be in the White House and that’s good enough for them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:49:22pm

I remember Joe Biden relating a story that sort of showed why I couldn’t do politics. He recalled getting furious at Jesse Helms over some issue and then Majority Leader Mike Mansfield took a young Joe Biden aside and told him that Jesse Helms had adoptive a disabled boy. I mean I get the lesson that Senator Mansfield was trying to teach Joe and it obviously made an impression on Joe but that’s why I couldn’t do politics. I don’t see everyone who disagrees with me politically as an enemy but people like Jesse Helms and the being discussed Curt Schiling test me.

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nickzi  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:51:25pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

You know for all their tough guy talk, these guys are a bunch of pansies. See how they cried like babies when Hillary called them deplorable.

I am guy in his 40s, pretty standard issue pinkish skin, and I cried watching Michelle Obama’s speech. Guess I don’t qualify for whatever the Trumpzis version of a tough guy card might be - which suits me fine. I’d rather be on the side of decent people.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:52:04pm

re: #151 Skip Intro

There really is no bottom with the GOP.

Nope. I’ve been saying that for years. It’s only going to get worse over the next 27 days.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:53:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:53:45pm

re: #193 nickzi

I am guy in his 40s, pretty standard issue pinkish skin, and I cried watching Michelle Obama’s speech. Guess I don’t qualify for whatever the Trumpzis version of a tough guy card might be - which suits me fine. I’d rather be on the side of decent people.

Same. I don’t mind being called a race traitor because I think diversity does this country good. I’m proud to have a Hispanic niece and in laws. I like learning about new cultures and meeting people from different backgrounds.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:53:56pm

re: #157 BeachDem

We Boston sports fans compartmentalize like you wouldn’t believe. Tom Brady, his coach Bill Belichick and the Patriots owner, Robert Kraft, are all Trump supporters.

On the other hand, after the Boston Bruins won the Stanley Cup in 2011, their goalie Tim Thomas revealed himself to be a real wingnut when he would not meet with the President in what was a mandatory team meeting, customary for sports champions.

He was traded not long afterwards.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:54:24pm

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darthstar  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:55:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:55:59pm

re: #197 Sherlock Hound

We Boston sports fans compartmentalize like you wouldn’t believe. Tom Brady, his coach Bill Belichick and the Patriots owner, Robert Kraft, are all Trump supporters.

On the other hand, after the Boston Bruins won the Stanley Cup in 2011, their goalie Tim Thomas revealed himself to be a real wingnut when he would not meet with the President in what was a mandatory team meeting, customary for sports champions.

He was traded not long afterwards.

Huh Kraft’s a Trump supporter. That one honestly surprises me. Interestingly, my two favorite sportsball teams in baseball and football are both run by liberals though the Orioles did have Luke Scott who was a birther who was very obnoxious about it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:56:37pm

re: #199 darthstar

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Jesus that’s the people who benefit from it the most. WMATA has a lot of problems with unfortunately.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:56:50pm

re: #115 jaunte

[Embedded content]

TFW Trump can’t even handle a Hannity interview.

Donald looks like he needs some stool softener.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:57:10pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Huh Kraft’s a Trump supporter. That one honestly surprises me. Interestingly, my two favorite sportsball teams in baseball and football are both run by liberals though the Orioles did have Luke Scott who was a birther who was very obnoxious about it.

Oh yeah forgot about Luke. Where’s he at these days?

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 1:59:03pm

Does the number of Trump accusers exceed or falls short of the number that came out against Cosby?

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darthstar  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:00:02pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Jesus that’s the people who benefit from it the most. WMATA has a lot of problems with unfortunately.

Isolating the poor creates slums. It’s fucking awful.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:00:14pm

re: #203 Sir John Barron

Oh yeah forgot about Luke. Where’s he at these days?

Spent last year in the Mexican league and Toronto minor league system according to baseball reference. Honestly, it was too bad. I had fun cheering for him and he honestly apart from the birther crap didn’t seem like a bad guy but man it was obnoxious shit and he knew it. I remember going to one game and having seats by the left field line and the fans had a lot of fun with him. The Angelos family as you know are pretty staunchly liberal. Lou wrote some very sympathetic stuff towards the protesters during the unrest following Freddie Gray’s death.

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nickzi  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:00:15pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Same. I don’t mind being called a race traitor because I think diversity does this country good. I’m proud to have a Hispanic niece and in laws. I like learning about new cultures and meeting people from different backgrounds.

Diversity is clearly good for people’s minds, their diets and their genetic population.

On the other side, we know what happens to groups that have too little diversity over time and it ain’t pretty.

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BeachDem  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:00:39pm

re: #197 Sherlock Hound

We Boston sports fans compartmentalize like you wouldn’t believe. Tom Brady, his coach Bill Belichick and the Patriots owner, Robert Kraft, are all Trump supporters.

On the other hand, after the Boston Bruins won the Stanley Cup in 2011, their goalie Tim Thomas revealed himself to be a real wingnut when he would not meet with the President in what was a mandatory team meeting, customary for sports champions.

He was traded not long afterwards.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:01:32pm

re: #205 darthstar

Isolating the poor creates slums. It’s fucking awful.

Ironically enough the reason why the Metro doesn’t go to Georgestown is because the rich white folks there didn’t want poor black people going in. What makes WMATA complicated compared to other public transit systems is you have three governments that are part of it- Virginia’s, Maryland’s, and the District’s.

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lawhawk  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:01:38pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

It’s a problem we’re seeing with mass transit in NJ too - Christie’s essentially eliminated state aid for NJ Transit, which means fare hikes and capital budget are covering operating costs (barely). Service quality has dropped, and the number of disruptions is growing significantly, especially after Sandy damage. I’m expecting more fare hikes and service cuts to come - and the cuts will hit inner city and minority communities hardest. They’re the ones who rely heaviest on mass transit and the least on cars.

NYC isn’t far behind. The MTA can’t keep up with demand, so something’s gotta give.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:01:56pm

re: #135 Kragar

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Possibly soon he may be obliged by law to announce when he moves into an area. Still has that child rape case hanging over his head.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:01:57pm

re: #207 nickzi

Diversity is clearly good for people’s minds, their diets and their genetic population.

On the other side, we know what happens to groups that have too little diversity over time and it ain’t pretty.

Yep it’s good in so many ways.

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Jay C  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:02:20pm

re: #186 freetoken

re: #191 Targetpractice

And even leaving all the holy-holy stuff out of it, it’s just a desperate political position for the “Religious Right”. They have tied themselves to the Republican Party (and vice versa): said Party has gone on to nominate a deplorable character like Donald Trump, and they have few options. They will, of course, swallow any pretext they might have made of having any sort of standards, and jump on the Trump Train: especially when the alternative is a Presidency and Administration in control of those they (sadly literally, in many cases) view as the Tools Of Satan.
Which they will get anyway.

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nickzi  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:02:52pm

re: #197 Sherlock Hound

Kraft doesn’t surprise me - he’s got the same modus operandi of playing the victim when he screws up. Belichick does surprise me, because I thought he was smarter than that. Live and learn, I guess.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:04:05pm

re: #210 lawhawk

It’s a problem we’re seeing with mass transit in NJ too - Christie’s essentially eliminated state aid for NJ Transit, which means fare hikes and capital budget are covering operating costs (barely). Service quality has dropped, and the number of disruptions is growing significantly, especially after Sandy damage. I’m expecting more fare hikes and service cuts to come - and the cuts will hit inner city and minority communities hardest. They’re the ones who rely heaviest on mass transit and the least on cars.

NYC isn’t far behind. The MTA can’t keep up with demand, so something’s gotta give.

It just sucks because as you say these cuts do hit the inner city the hardest and they’re the most reliant on public transit. The people in the DC burbs may often choose not to have cars but it’s more out of choice than checkbook.

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KGxvi  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:07:22pm

re: #186 freetoken

Regarding all these religious people still clinging to Drumpfskind, I conclude this is all boils down to the death-of-God problem, with which Europe has had to tackle post WWI and post WWII.

Basically, Drumpfskind is a surrogate for “guns and Bible”, to which they cling.

Quite the surrogate… but there it is.

I tend to think that many of the religious people still supporting Trump are the types that truly believe that Christianity is under assault in the US. They’ve been hearing that for 20-30 years, and they’ve come to believe it. So, when Trump stands up and says “we’re going to defend Christian Americans. Christian Americans,” they see someone who is going to defend them from the assault their leaders/entertainers have been telling them is happening.

It ties into a lot of the other reactionary politics we’ve seen at the heart of Trump’s campaign. The country is less Christian than it used to be, it’s less white than it used to be, we don’t have manufacturing jobs like we used to.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:08:07pm

Instagram

“Now is the time for all of us to stand up and say enough is enough. This has got to stop right now.” —First Lady Michelle Obama on Trump

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:09:38pm

re: #217 Dr. Matt

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I have a feeling this is what she’s going to dedicate a lot of her post first lady life to working on and she’s a terrific advocate for girls and women.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:11:16pm

re: #214 nickzi

Kraft doesn’t surprise me - he’s got the same modus operandi of playing the victim when he screws up. Belichick does surprise me, because I thought he was smarter than that. Live and learn, I guess.

Kraft has had Limbaugh In his private box a few times. Belichick is smart but I sense not political. He probably met Trump and is voting on that basis. So is Brady—he said so!

It would be outright comical for Belichick to do an endorsement, in the way he does his press conferences. Absolutely a blast. We haven’t had any truly happy moments in this whole election season.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:11:32pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:11:35pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

I have a feeling this is what she’s going to dedicate a lot of her post first lady life to working on and she’s a terrific advocate for girls and women.

Yup. Perfect topic for her as well.

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nickzi  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:11:57pm

re: #216 KGxvi

I think it’s more a problem of the death of the dominant white male than the death of God. Christianity is being used as a way of making the real issues look respectable under the cloak of religious liberty, but when you look at the rhetoric being used, it’s pretty clear that religion doesn’t really interest Trump and his supporters. It’s all toxic, raging masculinity and racism. The religious right really got going by trying to create segregated schools using religion as a means of dividing students without overt reference to race - and the same white racism has been at the core of their movement ever since.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:13:25pm

re: #219 Sherlock Hound

Kraft has had Limbaugh In his private box a few times. Belichick is smart but I sense not political. He probably met Trump and is voting on that basis. So is Brady—he said so!

It would be outright comical for Belichick to do an endorsement, in the way he does his press conferences. Absolutely a blast. We haven’t had any truly happy moments in this whole election season.

Kraft surprised me since I thought I had read he had supported Democratic causes/candidates before and even said the team would be fine with an openly gay player. Surprised Rush has been in the owner’s box, he’s a Steelers fan like I am- hate sharing that with him but Obama’s something of a casual Steelers fan and my family was in Pittsburgh long before that blowhard so I don’t feel guilty plus Rooney was Obama’s ambassador to Ireland and Tomlin and his wife had a fundraiser for Hillary at their house.

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nickzi  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:13:52pm

re: #219 Sherlock Hound

It would be outright comical for Belichick to do an endorsement, in the way he does his press conferences.

And we are on to… Utah!

I am still in shock about the polls that have come out showing Utah as one mighty dog-pile with Trump and Clinton both pulling 26%!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:14:02pm

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Yup. Perfect topic for her as well.

Very much so.

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nickzi  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:15:56pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

I thought Obama was a Bears fan?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 13, 2016 • 2:19:01pm

re: #226 nickzi

I thought Obama was a Bears fan?

I think he’s more Bears than Steelers but he’s said he was a fan before. Granted he could have just been trying to gain some good will in Western Pa.

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darthstar  Oct 13, 2016 • 3:37:57pm

re: #220 Stanley Sea

Time to start closing some polling places in strategic locations.
/(half - I know how Republicans think)


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