The Bob & Chez Show: Sea of Love

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:

Sea of Love: The Trump Crisis Day 89; Trump threatens martial law, North Korea will test fire a nuclear missile; Trump is mentally unfit to lead; Trump on nonexistent voter fraud; The Alex Jones Presidency; Trump can’t stop obsessing about his crowd size; Take The Oil; Trump thinks torture works; and more.

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49 comments

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KingKenrod  Jan 27, 2017 • 3:59:56pm

Trump’s disapproval three-day average jumps 3 points in one day. His first week is officially a PR disaster:

gallup.com

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Jenner7  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:03:48pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:04:47pm

re: #2 Jenner7

Heartless bastard.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:05:34pm

Hugh Hewitt. An idiot’s version of what a smart person sounds like.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:06:10pm

re: #2 Jenner7

Middle Eastern countries that Trump has business in aren’t on his ban list. Coincidence?

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:08:04pm

re: #2 Jenner7

I wonder if EO’s typically use the word “I”.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:09:26pm

*sigh*

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:10:52pm

“I know. You just don’t believe that I know.” -Gregg Phillips

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Jenner7  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:14:16pm

Asshole.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:18:58pm

Berlin Mayor tells Trump they know a little something about walls…

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freetoken  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:23:52pm

re: #1 KingKenrod

I look on all that as a gimmick (on Gallup’s part, to get webhits at Gallup) more than anything else.

As is usual in these type of things, “approval” has become a magic word for pollsters. But more tellingly, there just isn’t that much of a difference in that survey for “approval” and disapproval, given the sample size. The headline could just as well be that almost as many Americans approve of Trump as disapprove.

Now, one can say that compared to previous Presidents that Trump is not doing as well at the start. True, but I’m not sure it’s important. It will not stop Trump, who can just declare that Gallup is surveying illegal aliens.

We must internalize, rather than reject, the fact that enough Americans like Trump to have gotten him elected, even though yes, he got a minority vote.

My Facebook feed still as clueless Trumpers putting up all the stupid memes, completely oblivious, self-willingly oblivious, to the truth. They appear to believe they are living in a TV show.

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Targetpractice  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:24:32pm

re: #2 Jenner7

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This man has just signed the death warrants of thousands. ISIS must be tickled pink.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:29:12pm

re: #9 Jenner7

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Asshole.

Would that prioritize Shia Muslims as they are only 13% of Syria?

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Skip Intro  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:29:41pm

re: #11 freetoken

The base loves him even more.

TV Ratings: Donald Trump Interview Lifts ‘Hannity’

variety.com

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electrotek  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:29:53pm

re: #13 Timothy Watson

Would that prioritize Shia Muslims as they are only 13% of Syria?

Or what about Yezidis as they suffer the brunt of Da’esh’s brutality.

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Targetpractice  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:32:15pm

re: #13 Timothy Watson

Would that prioritize Shia Muslims as they are only 13% of Syria?

Of course not. The only “minorities” we care about now are Christians. All that talk about homosexuals are tossed off buildings? Yeah, we’re going to continue to only give a fuck about that as a talking point to tell those in America “be glad we’re not executing you.”

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Timothy Watson  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:33:54pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

Of course not. The only “minorities” we care about now are Christians. All that talk about homosexuals are tossed off buildings? Yeah, we’re going to continue to only give a fuck about that as a talking point to tell those in America “be glad we’re not executing you.”

Oh, I know, but conservatives never bother to think about unintended consequences of their actions.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:34:02pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

Send their persecuted homosexuals to ‘Murica so Mike Pence can have them electrocuted into straightness.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:34:17pm

From Huffpost

I think we can do better

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:34:19pm

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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:34:23pm

re: #2 Jenner7

re: #7 InfidelOfFreedom

For those political scolds who have told us not to overreact, and tell us Trump’s EOs are just bluster without Cong. approval…this is why we’re freaking out about them. There’s still a huge amount he can do with EOs that will destroy countless thousands of lives because “OOGA BOOGA, SCARY SWARTHY BROWN PEOPLE, KEEP THEM OUT!!!”

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:35:02pm

re: #18 InfidelOfFreedom

Send their persecuted homosexuals to ‘Murica so Mike Pence can have them electrocuted into straightness.

…except Peter Thiel…

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Interesting Times  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:35:13pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:36:18pm

re: #21 Citizen K

For those political scolds who have told us not to overreact, and tell us Trump’s EOs are just bluster without Cong. approval…this is why we’re freaking out about them. There’s still a huge amount he can do with EOs that will destroy countless thousands of lives because “OOGA BOOGA, SCARY SWARTHY BROWN PEOPLE, KEEP THEM OUT!!!”

And the idea that he can’t get Congressional approval is rather amusing. Ryan’s already hard at work trying to sell the Great Wall of Derp as “national security spending” so that it doesn’t have to be paid for with an offset.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:36:18pm

re: #19 I Would Prefer Not To

Should be toy ICMBs.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:41:42pm
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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:46:02pm

A couple of interesting NYT opinion pieces about how the wild-eyed concerns of “illegal voters” “pave the way for an assault on voting rights.”

nytimes.com

nytimes.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:46:07pm
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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:50:43pm

re: #5 Ace Rothstein

Middle Eastern countries that Trump has business in aren’t on his ban list. Coincidence?

The list is from 8 USC 1187(a)(12):
Iraq. Syria. Iran. Sudan. Those are specifically named. DHS has previously announced: Libya, Somalia, and Yemen.

This also gives DHS sweeping rights to choose countries to be added/removed.

Note too that these are countries that did not have any involvement in 9/11. Saudi Arabia is specifically not identified here, even though a significant number of 9/11 terrorists originated there (to say nothing of it being the original home of OBL).

This is a Muslim ban in no uncertain terms, using innocuous language to do the most noxious kind of thing.

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Citizen K  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:51:19pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:58:19pm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 27, 2017 • 4:58:30pm

re: #30 Citizen K

“Never again” = total bullshit.

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BeachDem  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:00:37pm

re: #23 Interesting Times

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Serious question—who are all these Jews who are anti-refugee? I tried to find something that mentioned it, but all of the statements I could find by Jewish groups were pro-refugee help.

Am I missing something?

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Interesting Times  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:05:16pm

re: #33 BeachDem

Serious question—who are all these Jews who are anti-refugee?

Netanyahu supporters, perhaps? Or maybe the OP was referring to Jewish trump voters he knows personally.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:06:28pm

re: #33 BeachDem

Serious question—who are all these Jews who are anti-refugee? I tried to find something that mentioned it, but all of the statements I could find by Jewish groups were pro-refugee help.

Am I missing something?

Kushner?

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:06:59pm

re: #33 BeachDem

Serious question—who are all these Jews who are anti-refugee? I tried to find something that mentioned it, but all of the statements I could find by Jewish groups were pro-refugee help.

Am I missing something?

Jared Kushner. Ivanka Trump.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:07:52pm

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Timothy Watson  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:08:29pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:09:00pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:09:02pm

re: #38 Timothy Watson

Nooo. :(

Hoping they find it!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:09:57pm
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BeachDem  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:10:33pm

re: #36 sagehen

Jared Kushner. Ivanka Trump.

re: #34 Interesting Times

Netanyahu supporters, perhaps? Or maybe the OP was referring to Jewish trump voters he knows personally.

re: #35 Belafon

Kushner?

That thing was written in 2015 and is really quite harsh—just wondered what Jewish group set it off—The ADL talks about a whole coalition of Jewish groups helping Syrian refugees and I don’t recall any Jewish outcry against refugees.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:11:02pm

Okay, last Facebook post:

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SteveMcG RN  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:17:24pm

re: #38 Timothy Watson

Maybe the jug came loose and it now looks like any other deer.

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EPR-radar  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:17:43pm

Motherfucking David Brooks is at it again:nytimes.com

Trump has changed the way the Republican Party sees the world. Republicans used to have a basic faith in the dynamism and openness of the free market. Now the party fears openness and competition.

Trump has changed precisely nothing about the Republican party. How could he? He ran as an outsider, and GOP primary voters flocked to his message of hate and bigotry because that is what they have been programmed to do by decades of Republican propaganda.

Even now, the worst president and administration in US history is supported by Republican majorities in both houses of Congress that will exploit the demented fool in the white house as long as they possibly can to get his signatures on various America-hating action items of the Republican agenda.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:25:36pm

Trump is the GOP. The GOP is Trump. They are indivisible at this point, and there isn’t any way around it. Trump voters don’t realize the shit show that’s already underway. They think any of this is normal or transformative in a positive way?

They think a Muslim ban is a good thing?

These are the same people who cheered and demanded Japanese interment.
These are the America Firsters who were openly supporting Nazi Germany before US entry in the war.

These are the economic illiterates who don’t realize they aren’t going to see any of the benefits of any of the policies that Trump’s pushing.

Not the 20% tax on imports from Mexico.
Not the expected income tax cuts.
Not the slash and burn of the safety net.
Not the destruction of Obamacare.
Not gutting the education system or environmental protections.

Not any of it.

They instead are going to get the burdens:
20% hike on produce and products from Mexico, higher fuel costs, etc.
Tax cuts that wont make up for the hike from the Mexico tax. Unless you’re a millionaire, in which case you’re cashing in. And even if you’re a billionaire, you still need safe water to drink and air to breathe, and gutting the EPA will increase chances of noxious emissions and worsening water quality.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:29:24pm

Nonprofits and political organizations should really take a lesson from the Southern Poverty Law Center when it comes to donations.

Instead of harassing someone, who has already given money to you, with solicitations asking for more money, send them a four page letter about how they were founded, what they’re doing now, and how they plan to expand in the future.

The best part? The entire mailing was just the letter. No solicitations for more money or anything. Makes me want to donate money to them more than any type of solicitation I have ever gotten from another group.

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Cheechako  Jan 27, 2017 • 5:29:36pm

re: #43 Timothy Watson

Okay, last Facebook post:

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I was there in San Antonio at the former Kelly AFB when the convoy arrived. The Border Patrol had no idea that they were coming. When the convoy arrived at the border, the BP just open the gates and let the convoy roll through.

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stpaulbear  Jan 27, 2017 • 6:17:46pm

re: #39 lockjawcanbefun

‘Canada to increase reproductive health funding in response to Trump’

Oh great. Now we have to build a wall there too.


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