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electrotek  May 1, 2017 • 9:07:21pm

Spencer is such a snowflake:

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 9:12:34pm

I’ve yet to listen to a ‘Sassy Trump’ video. Is it like the Honey Badger Don’t Give a Shit narration from a few years ago? Slightly femmed out? Am I missing out on something awesome?

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 9:13:56pm

re: #1 electrotek

Spencer is such a snowflake:

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 9:14:49pm

re: #3 darthstar

Context:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 1, 2017 • 9:15:41pm

The man certainly has a femtometer-sized epidermis……

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Targetpractice  May 1, 2017 • 9:18:02pm

I found myself wondering for a moment when the media was finally going to drop the fantasy that Trump is going to “pivot” and all this “early days” bullshit would be put by the wayside.

But then I realized it will never happen because there’s too much wrapped up in “Bothsiderism” to ever acknowledge that the leader of one side is batshit insane and his followers are the worst sort of people around.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2017 • 9:19:16pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

“Bothsiderism” is good for ratings, dumbass!

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electrotek  May 1, 2017 • 9:24:46pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

I found myself wondering for a moment when the media was finally going to drop the fantasy that Trump is going to “pivot” and all this “early days” bullshit would be put by the wayside.

But then I realized it will never happen because there’s too much wrapped up in “Bothsiderism” to ever acknowledge that the leader of one side is batshit insane and his followers are the worst sort of people around.

Equalization has become normalized these days.

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Targetpractice  May 1, 2017 • 9:27:19pm

Of course, the other part of it is the journalistic equivalent of Battered Wife Syndrome, as decades of fear of being branded with the scarlet “L” of Liberalism has made the media absolutely afraid to address the reality that we’ve a complete moron in the White House and the only reason the country hasn’t come completely off the rails yet is because the gears of bureaucracy grind so slowly.

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goddamnedfrank  May 1, 2017 • 9:27:55pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 9:30:52pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

Of course, the other part of it is the journalistic equivalent of Battered Wife Syndrome, as decades of fear of being branded with the scarlet “L” of Liberalism has made the media absolutely afraid to address the reality that we’ve a complete moron in the White House and the only reason the country hasn’t come completely off the rails yet is because the gears of bureaucracy grind so slowly.

And years of FOX News Channel insisting to its viewers, and reich-wing and Christian hate radio all claiming the media is liberally-biased, means that the both-siderism isn’t going to work anyway.

The New York Times isn’t going to win conservative readers by giving a platform to a climate change denier. MSNBC is not going to win conservative viewers by hiring people like Greta Van Sursten.

They will sacrifice their audiences on the altar of magic balance fairyism though.

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makeitstop  May 1, 2017 • 9:31:07pm

It’s A Mad Mad Mad Mad Max Fury Road.

It’s a Mad Mad Mad Max Fury Road - Trailer

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goddamnedfrank  May 1, 2017 • 9:31:56pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 9:32:56pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 9:34:21pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

… and history ended with the Southern Strategy.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 9:36:50pm

Okay another one …

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Targetpractice  May 1, 2017 • 9:37:01pm

re: #11 Anymouse

And years of FOX News Channel insisting to its viewers, and reich-wing and Christian hate radio all claiming the media is liberally-biased, means that the both-siderism isn’t going to work anyway.

The New York Times isn’t going to win conservative readers by giving a platform to a climate change denier. MSNBC is not going to win conservative viewers by hiring people like Greta Van Sursten.

They will sacrifice their audiences on the altar of magic balance fairyism though.

The truly sad part is this desperate ploy is being spun (in part as a defense mechanism) into some true blossoming of liberalism by giving “both sides” a platform to argue their case. As we saw this past weekend, all that does is give the people who already are trying desperately to keep some measure of faith in the media the final straw they need to call it quits. “Free speech” is now being twisted into a battle cry of privileged assholes who can’t accept that their readers don’t want to pay to be told they’re idiots for buying into the climate change “hoax.”

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jaunte  May 1, 2017 • 9:37:03pm

You have to watch this video just for the last five seconds when our baby president has to retreat behind his desk to shuffle papers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 9:38:17pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

Of course, the other part of it is the journalistic equivalent of Battered Wife Syndrome, as decades of fear of being branded with the scarlet “L” of Liberalism has made the media absolutely afraid to address the reality that we’ve a complete moron in the White House and the only reason the country hasn’t come completely off the rails yet is because the gears of bureaucracy grind so slowly.

You know, it’s funny. Fox News is falling apart, and part of that is that their audience finally got what they want. And a just this moment, when the Resistance movement is gaining traction, and followers, MSNBC, which had built its name on being a home for liberals, decides that NOW is the time to try to be Fox News.

I mean, OF COURSE Fox is crashing! They’re no longer the Opposition. And of course MSNBC had been having problems increasingly for 8 years. Under Obama, they had no mission. NOW, with Trump, they have one.

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Targetpractice  May 1, 2017 • 9:39:51pm

re: #14 Anymouse

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This is meant as a joke, but it’s pretty much the greatest example of the wingnut ignorance of history in full blossom. Lincoln was open to the idea of basically offering to pay owners a “fair” price for their slaves. But by 1860, slaves represented a greater financial investment than any other in the US. There was simply not enough money in the coffers to buy every single slave. And that assumes something that the secessionists pretty much shot to shit the moment they made their break official: They were prepared to tear the country apart to keep their slaves.

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Kragar  May 1, 2017 • 9:46:15pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

The South decided they would rather see dead Americans than free blacks

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 9:46:49pm
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Ubiq  May 1, 2017 • 9:47:02pm

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 9:48:34pm

re: #21 Kragar

The South decided they would rather see dead Americans than free blacks

And initially President Lincoln was not arguing for freeing slaves anyway, he wanted to preserve the Union, while France, Britain, and Spain all looked on to regain their lost colonies as the nation tore itself apart.

South Carolina opened fire first, and Lincoln wasn’t even sworn in yet.

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Targetpractice  May 1, 2017 • 9:50:03pm

re: #21 Kragar

The South decided they would rather see dead Americans than free blacks

All the talk about “Southern culture” ignores one major item: Southern “culture” was built largely upon the idea that the white man was superior to the black. It was how his entire world worked, what put food on the table, what kept a roof over his family’s heads, and what put money in his pocket. The idea that the races were equal, that a white man was no different from the black man who he forced to work in his fields, challenged that entire world to its very core. And that was not something the South was ever going to accept, no matter what “deal” was made.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 9:51:33pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 9:52:48pm

LOL. Fifth highest Twitter hashtag:
#TrumpTeachesHistory

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2017 • 10:01:44pm

re: #27 Anymouse

You’re an astute Twitter observer. Get an account! Participate! I would follow you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 10:06:45pm

re: #27 Anymouse

LOL. Fifth highest Twitter hashtag:
#TrumpTeachesHistory

OMG too good!

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 10:08:50pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

You’re an astute Twitter observer. Get an account! Participate! I would follow you.

I can’t. My stalker ex-wife is on Twitter.

And for everyone’s perusal. The police have declared a riot in Portland, Ore.:
oregonlive.com

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 10:17:14pm

thinkprogress.org
Out of 11,767 people in Mississippi who applied for TANF benefits that amount to $170 a month for three people, the state approved 167.

The article notes no other state has a rejection rate over 90% but Texas is close.

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freetoken  May 1, 2017 • 10:19:15pm

One more science video posted today… this from a Yale gathering on synthetic biology. Neat presentation regarding synthetic biology for exploration off-Earth:

Lynn Rothschild - Synthetic Biology on Mars: Designing Solutions for Earth

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 10:22:05pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 10:28:43pm

Poland will appoint honorary counsuls, that is, volunteers in other countries who would be willing to give aid to Polish travellers, promote Poland’s tourism, &c. The requirements are basically a desire to do that, and the ability to speak Polish. (My wife is considering this.)

An honorary counsul in Akron, Ohio has been suspended by the Polish Foreign Ministry after depicting Donald Tusk (President of the Council of Europe) as a Nazi.

She says her social media accounts were hacked and she would not do such a thing. She also says she doesn’t have a Twitter account (one of the places the image appeared).

thenews.pl

Maria Szonert-Binienda, who became Polish honorary consul in Akron, Ohio, earlier this month, has slammed what she described as a media “campaign of lies and slander” against her.

Further decisions on her future will be made after Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski returns from a trip to Australia, the PAP news agency reported.

A lawyer for Tusk on Saturday took the case to prosecutors, urging them to open proceedings.

The lawyer said a digitally-altered image of Tusk posted on Twitter — allegedly by Szonert-Binienda — was defamatory and “so shocking that it could not be left without a reaction”.

But Szonert-Binienda said she did not use Twitter at all, adding that her Facebook account had been hacked. She said that she condemned the promotion of Nazi themes.

(more at Radio Poland)

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 10:35:24pm

re: #31 Anymouse

This state of mine has some serious issues to work out. I’ve seriously thought about running for governor at some point after becoming a citizen.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 10:36:45pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

This state of mine has some serious issues to work out. I’ve seriously thought about running for governor at some point after becoming a citizen.

You could run on replacing the Dixie Swastika in the canton of the state flag with the Canadian maple leaf. /s

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 10:41:43pm

The only way I’d have a chance in hell of winning down here would be to run GOP and I don’t I’m not sure I could ever bring myself to do that.

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Birth Control Works  May 1, 2017 • 10:43:10pm
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Birth Control Works  May 1, 2017 • 10:44:40pm
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Targetpractice  May 1, 2017 • 10:46:57pm

re: #39 Birth Control Works

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That was my first thought when I heard Lumpy was thinking of quitting Faux, that he’ll just land somewhere in “serious” pundit land, paid to offer a “conservative voice.”

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 10:47:35pm

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

The only way I’d have a chance in hell of winning down here would be to run GOP and I don’t I’m not sure I could ever bring myself to do that.

It wasn’t too long ago Mississippi had a Democratic House. (That ended in 2010 I believe, but I would have to look it up and I am lazy.)

If the GOP’s wheels come off under Donald Trump, a Dem might have a shot at it.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 1, 2017 • 10:51:31pm

re: #41 Anymouse

Did you see my private message to you Sunday?

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 10:52:14pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

The truly sad part is this desperate ploy is being spun (in part as a defense mechanism) into some true blossoming of liberalism by giving “both sides” a platform to argue their case. As we saw this past weekend, all that does is give the people who already are trying desperately to keep some measure of faith in the media the final straw they need to call it quits. “Free speech” is now being twisted into a battle cry of privileged assholes who can’t accept that their readers don’t want to pay to be told they’re idiots for buying into the climate change “hoax.”

Interesting story about Andy Lack (appropriately named) and the mess he’s making of MSNBC.

huffingtonpost.com

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Birth Control Works  May 1, 2017 • 10:52:49pm

no, not this parent, and many of my friends. Those that do can’t be talked out of it, they tend to have “issues.”

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Birth Control Works  May 1, 2017 • 10:54:37pm
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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 10:55:54pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

All the talk about “Southern culture” ignores one major item: Southern “culture” was built largely upon the idea that the white man was superior to the black. It was how his entire world worked, what put food on the table, what kept a roof over his family’s heads, and what put money in his pocket. The idea that the races were equal, that a white man was no different from the black man who he forced to work in his fields, challenged that entire world to its very core. And that was not something the South was ever going to accept, no matter what “deal” was made.

The only southern Civil War plaque I admire (at the Clarion Hotel in Columbia.)

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 11:00:07pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

Did you see my private message to you Sunday?

No, I apparently overlooked it, so I will read it now.

[Jeopardy theme]

As for that “conventional religious expression” you say you used, I either missed that too, or I got over it. (I normally don’t get upset at religious expressions put my way like “God bless” or “I’ll pray for you.” I only get upset at pushy evangelists after I’ve asked them to stop.)

I’m not a “student” of Joseph Campbell, but I did read a couple of his books a very long time ago and found them quite interesting.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2017 • 11:10:19pm

Instagram

Pope-to-Dope : when conditions are right you can rip it 5th gear taped 🏂. Never thought I would literally be doing that on April 29th on my Kx450 🏍 in all time conditions!@timbersledproducts #anywhereyouwanttogo #keepthefalllinereal

Those tracks are from TimberSleds.

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Birth Control Works  May 1, 2017 • 11:10:43pm

nytol

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 11:14:00pm

re: #43 BeachDem

Interesting story about Andy Lack (appropriately named) and the mess he’s making of MSNBC.

huffingtonpost.com

I read that article and noted just as when Andy Lack was in charge at NBC, now at MSNBC he seems intent on pushing out all the non-white on-air personalities.

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JordanRules  May 1, 2017 • 11:17:18pm

re: #21 Kragar

The South decided they would rather see dead Americans than free blacks

Perfection.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 12:34:14am

re: #25 Targetpractice

All the talk about “Southern culture” ignores one major item: Southern “culture” was built largely upon the idea that the white man was superior to the black.

It was based on the notion that those white settlers were too damn lazy to do the hard work of raising sugar, cotton or tobacco and found it easier to import slaves and threaten them with physical harm if they did not comply.

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unproven innocence  May 2, 2017 • 12:44:13am

re: #23 Ubiq

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Pepsi makes everything ok. /

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MsJ  May 2, 2017 • 2:18:00am

re: #30 Anymouse

I can’t. My stalker ex-wife is on Twitter.

Twitter allows handles. You could be @SamSpade if you wanted (more likely @SamSpade1000000, but that’s besides the point). How would she ever know who you are?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 2:20:32am

re: #54 MsJ

Twitter allows handles. You could be @SamSpade if you wanted (more likely @SamSpade1000000, but that’s besides the point). How would she ever know who you are?

FB allows you to block people entirely, as I have done with my ex-wife.

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goddamnedfrank  May 2, 2017 • 2:50:09am

Young dudes are ridiculous.

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 3:35:37am

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

The truth is men grow beards because we’re lazy af. It’s literally the result of doing nothing.

Dammit, you’ve given up the whole game! Men, everywhere, are doomed now!

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2017 • 4:36:33am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 4:37:52am

re: #58 Dr. Matt

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Florida. Of course.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 4:41:00am

Watch this. @jmeacham says on @Morning_Joe that Trump told him a year ago that he thought he could have done a deal to avert the Civil War.

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2017 • 4:42:13am

re: #1 electrotek

So the University of Buffalo is okay with inviting a White Supremacist to speak? Good to know. How nice for the minority students who are busting their guts to afford to go there.

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Joe Bacon  May 2, 2017 • 4:43:06am

re: #39 Birth Control Works

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I’m sure the New York Times will gladly give L’il Lumpyass a slot on the OpEd page!

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2017 • 4:52:10am

re: #38 Birth Control Works

Democrats in Congress need to make much more noise about the grifting that Trump and his family are doing. I understand that they don’t have much power being in the minority, but they need to keep the story in the forefront. It is not normal for a President to be making money off his office. Nor for his kids to be doing the same to line their pockets.

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2017 • 4:53:31am

Had to say goodbye to my 14 year old Viszla last night. Man, he was the weirdest, sweetest, most fun dog ever. My 3 year old son knew something was wrong last night, but fell asleep before we left. I’m not looking forward to answering his question.

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Joe Bacon  May 2, 2017 • 4:59:21am

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

Good Lord, when I was a Freshman at Pitt in 1974, the Young Americans for FreeDUMB were alive and well on the campus organized by a gay Libertarian. Right from the start their worshipping at the alter of Buckley turned my stomach. Then the Young Libertarian Alliance started organizing with lots of cash from Kochs.

Bad enough studying Economics with a department split between Rothbard and Milton Friedman. And when Carter was elected the classes became more politicized. Yet I can remember all too well how the crackers in the Pennsyltucky legislature constantly bullshitted about them “left wing perfessers”!

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2017 • 5:13:36am

re: #32 freetoken

One more science video posted today… this from a Yale gathering on synthetic biology. Neat presentation regarding synthetic biology for exploration off-Earth:

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Video

“Time to die.”

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Joe Bacon  May 2, 2017 • 5:15:25am

re: #60 The Vicious Babushka

Watch this. @jmeacham says on @Morning_Joe that Trump told him a year ago that he thought he could have done a deal to avert the Civil War.

[Embedded content]

OK, it’s time to start a Kickstarter campaign to buy a souped up DeLorean for Orange Foolius!

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wheat-dogg  May 2, 2017 • 5:18:58am

re: #67 Joe Bacon

OK, it’s time to start a Kickstarter campaign to buy a souped up DeLorean for Orange Foolius!

Nope. Send Trump back in time and he’d likely screw something up bigly and ruin the timeline for everyone.

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Momkat56  May 2, 2017 • 5:31:05am

re: #64 Mike Lamb

Sorry to hear of the loss of your buddy.

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2017 • 5:32:47am
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Joe Bacon  May 2, 2017 • 5:36:35am

re: #70 Dr. Matt

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LET
THAT
SINK
IN…

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 5:42:53am
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Eventual Carrion  May 2, 2017 • 5:47:45am

re: #58 Dr. Matt

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I cite brain damage.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 5:48:37am

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 2, 2017 • 5:52:39am

re: #71 Joe Bacon

LET
THAT
SINK
IN…

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 5:52:52am

AUNTIE LYDIA COMPLAINS ABOUT BEING OPPRESSED, HELP! HELP!

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2017 • 5:56:07am

re: #73 Eventual Carrion

I cite brain damage.

Age-related dementia.

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 5:59:17am

So the whip count hasn’t changed all that much since the first time Trumpcare failed (it even failed to be relabeled Ryancare by the WH)

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 6:00:07am

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

Living ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ — courtesy of the secular liberal elites of L.A.

[…]

Washington-based Charlotte Allen writes about social and cultural issues.

Where’s my Castle GIF?

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:01:07am
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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:02:53am
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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:06:13am

re: #81 darthstar

Okay…the NYT review is worth a read

Just looking at “Women Who Work” gives you a clue. It’s a strawberry milkshake of inspirational quotes. Lee Iacocca appears two pages before Socrates. Toni Morrison appears one page after Estée Lauder. A quote from Nelson Mandela introduces the section that encourages women to ask for flextime: “It always seems impossible until it’s done.”

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:07:30am
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Amory Blaine  May 2, 2017 • 6:11:17am

re: #64 Mike Lamb

Sorry about your loss.

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:11:52am
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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 6:13:59am

re: #85 darthstar

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Wowzer, a President openly advocating for a government shutdown…

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 6:14:42am

re: #83 darthstar

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 6:14:58am
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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 6:17:39am

re: #85 darthstar

Trump’s taking up Ted Cruz’s mantle of seeking a government shutdown that will cripple the economy all because the GOP doesn’t know how to govern.

Trump doesn’t know how to government. Presidenting while issuing diktats isn’t what presidents do. That’s all Trump knows how to do, and when he doesn’t get his way, he gets in a huff and threatens to do even more bad stuff.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 6:19:11am

Morning.

I see VB has a video up from Morning Joke’s show this morning. I decided to watch the first half hour to see what they would say about our scrambled-brain President.

Here is the whole first segment. Joe and Mika think he is getting worse and is a mental mess. It’s long but interesting.

Iframe

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:20:23am

re: #89 lawhawk

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Trump’s taking up Ted Cruz’s mantle of seeking a government shutdown that will cripple the economy all because the GOP doesn’t know how to govern.

Trump doesn’t know how to government. Presidenting while issuing diktats isn’t what presidents do. That’s all Trump knows how to do, and when he doesn’t get his way, he gets in a huff and threatens to do even more bad stuff.

Exactly. Even if they destroy the filibuster they won’t be able to get shit done because the GOP is too fractured with Teabag/Freedom Caucus and “Moderates” hating each other like Hatfields and McCoys.

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jeffreyw  May 2, 2017 • 6:20:55am

Imgur
Good morning!

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:22:54am
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lizardofid  May 2, 2017 • 6:23:04am

Morning Lizards,

I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned, but Jimmy Kimmel’s description of his newborn son’s first few hours of life is very moving. He gets real about healthcare around the 10:30 mark.

Jimmy Kimmel Reveals Details of His Son’s Birth & Heart Disease

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Belafon  May 2, 2017 • 6:26:49am

re: #58 Dr. Matt

This gives me an idea: I want a baseball cap decorated to look like a colander.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 6:31:50am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. The Times continues their normalizing bullshit. This time, it’s how Ivanka is some kind of moderating effect on Trump. That couldn’t be further from reality, as Trump’s regressive and misogynistic agenda shows absolutely no sign of moderation.

Nothing about this is normal, and now there’s more questions about her husband’s financial disclosure forms - he lied on them just as surely as he lied/omitted on his security clearance forms. Stuff like this would be disqualifying for any other admin, but here, it’s not even crickets.

Did Jared bother to sign Trump’s vaunted “ethics” pledge? Does that even mean anything when no one cares what ethics or morals are when you’re talking about Trump and this GOP?

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 6:32:05am

re: #64 Mike Lamb

Had to say goodbye to my 14 year old Viszla last night. Man, he was the weirdest, sweetest, most fun dog ever. My 3 year old son knew something was wrong last night, but fell asleep before we left. I’m not looking forward to answering his question.

Awww. Sorry to hear that Mike. I hope your son is going to take news well. Thoughts for the family.

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:34:57am
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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:39:38am

I think #3 is possible.

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:41:44am

Jared is Soros’ mole in the Trump admin…

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 6:49:55am

re: #96 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. The Times continues their normalizing bullshit. This time, it’s how Ivanka is some kind of moderating effect on Trump. That couldn’t be further from reality, as Trump’s regressive and misogynistic agenda shows absolutely no sign of moderation.

[Embedded content]

Nothing about this is normal, and now there’s more questions about her husband’s financial disclosure forms - he lied on them just as surely as he lied/omitted on his security clearance forms. Stuff like this would be disqualifying for any other admin, but here, it’s not even crickets.

Did Jared bother to sign Trump’s vaunted “ethics” pledge? Does that even mean anything when no one cares what ethics or morals are when you’re talking about Trump and this GOP?

Ivanka like her Dad cares about what’s good for her. And yeah there’s no evidence at all that she’s a moderating influence. The Sec of Army pick for example.

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:55:19am

I don’t know…the dead body in the tub kind of takes away from the whole thing.

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 6:59:43am
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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 7:03:46am

If you want to see the amount of Spencer fanboys who don’t understand what freedom of speech means, look no further than the comments section of this UB newspiece.

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 7:08:04am

re: #64 Mike Lamb

Had to say goodbye to my 14 year old Viszla last night. Man, he was the weirdest, sweetest, most fun dog ever. My 3 year old son knew something was wrong last night, but fell asleep before we left. I’m not looking forward to answering his question.

Viszlas are great dogs. I am sorry for your loss and send my condolences. Dogs are great beings. The only sad thing is we outlive them - but for the short time we have them they are so happy how could you say no to them.

*hug*

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Belafon  May 2, 2017 • 7:13:32am

I’m going to carry this with me:

dailykos.com

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2017 • 7:17:42am

re: #64 Mike Lamb

Had to say goodbye to my 14 year old Viszla last night. Man, he was the weirdest, sweetest, most fun dog ever. My 3 year old son knew something was wrong last night, but fell asleep before we left. I’m not looking forward to answering his question.

So sorry…

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 7:27:41am

Hell has frozen over, because there’s one thing I agree with Trump on.

And that is the need to increase fuel taxes to fund infrastructure projects.

Am I going nuts now? Or is this another example of a broken clock being correct once in a full moon?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 7:29:29am

re: #108 electrotek

Hell has frozen over, because there’s one thing I agree with Trump on.

And that is the need to increase fuel taxes to fund infrastructure projects.

Am I going nuts now? Or is this another example of a broken clock being correct once in a full moon?

Only because those “infrastructure projects” would go to DT’s cronies and donors, and produce very little benefit for a lot of tax expenditure.

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 7:29:46am

re: #108 electrotek

Hell has frozen over, because there’s one thing I agree with Trump on.

And that is the need to increase fuel taxes to fund infrastructure projects.

Am I going nuts now? Or is this another example of a broken clock being correct once in a full moon?

It’s another case of dead on arrival verbal diarrhea from Trump.

Even if he has the right policy idea.

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Belafon  May 2, 2017 • 7:31:26am

re: #108 electrotek

Hell has frozen over, because there’s one thing I agree with Trump on.

And that is the need to increase fuel taxes to fund infrastructure projects.

Am I going nuts now? Or is this another example of a broken clock being correct once in a full moon?

I heard on the news this morning that Trump mentioned breaking up the big banks. I expect it to go exactly nowhere, but the report noted that the banks and Wall Street were all in a huff.

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 7:31:47am
A former South Carolina police officer is pleading guilty to violating the civil rights of an unarmed black motorist he shot and killed as the man ran from a 2015 traffic stop, according to a copy of the plea agreement obtained by The Associated Press.

The 13-page document also notes that as part of the deal, state prosecutors are dropping a pending murder charge against Michael Slager, effectively bringing to a close both parallel cases against the former North Charleston police officer.

Slager, 35, had been scheduled to appear in federal court Tuesday for motions ahead of his federal trial planned for later this month in the April 2015 death of Walter Scott.

richmond.com

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:36:11am

Agh what the hell did i do to deserve getting the inspiration for Officer Barbardy, Dennis Prager’s videos on my Facebook. He has a screed whining about why communism isn’t as hated as Nazism. Well for one we never fought an official war against the Communists and two people like YOU, Dennis have a bad habit of lumping anything not lassaize-faire capitalism as being akin to Stalinism or Maoism.

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 7:38:48am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Agh what the hell did i do to deserve getting the inspiration for Officer Barbardy, Dennis Prager’s videos on my Facebook. He has a screed whining about why communism isn’t as hated as Nazism. Well for one we never fought an official war against the Communists and two people like YOU, Dennis have a bad habit of lumping anything not lassaize-faire capitalism as being akin to Stalinism or Maoism.

Hmm…Charles mentioned PragerU yesterday because he was getting their ads on YouTube prior to watching Keith Olbermann’s video.

I wonder if some ad network connected the information.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 7:39:04am

An Irish Le Pen supporter getting upset over a photo of a French flag being stomped on:

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2017 • 7:39:10am

So, another day of crazy with the emperor who has no clothes.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2017 • 7:39:52am

re: #64 Mike Lamb

My sympathy to you and your family. My most painful decision was to put my 15 year old mutt to sleep; he had battled liver cancer for over two years and I wanted to be with him when he passed away.

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 7:40:03am

God, someone mentioned a couple weeks ago about how bad that new Weezer album was. I just heard part of one of the songs (“Feels Like Summer”) and want to deafen myself.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 7:40:32am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Only because those “infrastructure projects” would go to DT’s cronies and donors, and produce very little benefit for a lot of tax expenditure.

I’m not holding my breath on this one either, but I’m surprised that he brought up the need to increase the fuel tax when other politicians consider it political suicide to even suggest such a thing.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:40:51am

re: #114 Timothy Watson

Hmm…Charles mentioned PragerU yesterday because he was getting their ads on YouTube prior to watching Keith Olbermann’s video.

I wonder if some ad network connected the information.

Perhaps. Anyhow, the other thing is Dennis is wrong, people in this country do hate communism a lot. How else can you explain why to so many, Sanders’ Democratic Socialism is seen as no different than Stalinism or Maoism and you know me man, I’m far from a Bernie fan but I’m not spiteful enough to say Bernie’s a Stalinist, Maoist, or Chavezist. He’s someone whose beliefs come from the Scandinavian post war tradition.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:41:43am

re: #115 electrotek

An Irish Le Pen supporter getting upset over a photo of a French flag being stomped on:

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Conservatives are the ultimate snowflake hypocrites.

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 7:42:26am

I always enjoy wingnut infighting:

State Sen. Frank W. Wagner, R-Virginia Beach, on Monday ripped Ed Gillespie’s tax cut promises, saying “Gillespie’s claim of putting nearly $1,300 per year back into the pockets of a family of four is dishonest, phony math and bad public policy.”

richmond.com

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2017 • 7:42:34am

re: #6 Targetpractice

I don’t think the media cares about Trump pivoting. They’re now very busy normalizing Trump’s awfulness. They’re trying to make it seem that Trump is just an average President no different from his predecessors.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 7:42:55am

re: #108 electrotek

Hell has frozen over, because there’s one thing I agree with Trump on.

And that is the need to increase fuel taxes to fund infrastructure projects.

Am I going nuts now? Or is this another example of a broken clock being correct once in a full moon?

The gas tax has been at 18.4 cents per gallon since 1994. It hasn’t kept up with inflation, and as vehicles get more efficient, there’s more usage and less money coming in to maintain roads and infrastructure.

That said, the fuel taxes are a regressive tax and would adversely affect those who are least able to afford hikes. Trump/GOP tax plans need to be viewed as a whole to see just how much more they’d pay under a tax hike here (which would be felt every time you hit the fuel pump) and what pittance of savings you might see in your annual returns.

Given that the GOP is adverse to higher taxes, I don’t give this much of a chance of success.

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Momkat56  May 2, 2017 • 7:43:14am

re: #94 lizardofid

When our little girl was born with Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome 28 years ago, I was fortunate enough to be covered by primary and secondary health insurance policies. Unfortunately, she died shortly after major heart surgery. I imagine we would still be paying those medical expenses off had we not had insurance. You don’t decide whether you can afford the care, you just want your loved one to be there tomorrow, and the day after that, and so on. No one should have to worry about the expense. Basic health care should be a right for all in this wealthy country.

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caseyjr  May 2, 2017 • 7:44:02am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Agh what the hell did i do to deserve getting the inspiration for Officer Barbardy, Dennis Prager’s videos on my Facebook. He has a screed whining about why communism isn’t as hated as Nazism. Well for one we never fought an official war against the Communists and two people like YOU, Dennis have a bad habit of lumping anything not lassaize-faire capitalism as being akin to Stalinism or Maoism.

umm, “veetnaaam”? (Laos, Cambodia)

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:44:10am

re: #122 Timothy Watson

I always enjoy wingnut infighting:

richmond.com

I do too. BTW, did you catch the debate between Perriello and Northam? Pretty civil. I am still with Tom but this was my first real introduction to Ralph too and I really came off impressed with how Ralph talked about gun control.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:44:54am

re: #126 caseyjr

umm, “veetnaaam”? (Laos, Cambodia)

An official war as in a declared one. But point noted.

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lizardofid  May 2, 2017 • 7:45:21am

re: #125 Momkat56

When our little girl was born with Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome 28 years ago, I was fortunate enough to be covered by primary and secondary health insurance policies. Unfortunately, she died shortly after major heart surgery. I imagine we would still be paying those medical expenses off had we not had insurance. You don’t decide whether you can afford the care, you just want your loved one to be there tomorrow, and the day after that, and so on. No one should have to worry about the expense. Basic health care should be a right for all in this wealthy country.

Well said.

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 7:46:39am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

I do too. BTW, did you catch the debate between Perriello and Northam? Pretty civil. I am still with Tom but this was my first real introduction to Ralph too and I really came off impressed with how Ralph talked about gun control.

I missed it. I’ve been meaning to find a replay but haven’t had a chance.

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2017 • 7:48:40am

re: #90 ObserverArt

Joe and Mika championed Trump during his campaign so I just can’t take any of their criticism seriously. Way late when it may have been effective before the election.

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caseyjr  May 2, 2017 • 7:48:40am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

An official war as in a declared one. But point noted.

Insofar as the justification was 100% anti-commie. Domino theory and all that.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:48:56am

re: #130 Timothy Watson

I missed it. I’ve been meaning to find a replay but haven’t had a chance.

Hopefully you can find one. Honestly, it was a breath of fresh air since I think both candidates were pretty civil to each other. As you know, I like Ralph but I prefer Tom. And if Ralph becomes the nominee on June 13, I will gladly champion him.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:50:44am

re: #132 caseyjr

Insofar as the justification was 100% anti-commie. Domino theory and all that.

Correct. I guess what I mean is the Nazis being the ultimate baddie in the public’s eye comes from the footage that came from the Concentration Camps. A lot of American anti-communism wasn’t inspired so much by what people had seen but from rhetoric. Not saying anti-communism is a bad philosophy but I think many people like Prager try to attack anything left of them economically as being communism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 7:51:02am

re: #119 electrotek

I’m not holding my breath on this one either, but I’m surprised that he brought up the need to increase the fuel tax when other politicians consider it political suicide to even suggest such a thing.

Think of all the times DT has gotten away with saying or doing things that would have been political suicide for any other candidate…I guess that could theoretically be an advantage.

Theoretically. Practically, it is a license to run us to rack and ruin.

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Jay C  May 2, 2017 • 7:52:04am

re: #108 electrotek

Hell has frozen over, because there’s one thing I agree with Trump on.

And that is the need to increase fuel taxes to fund infrastructure projects.

Am I going nuts now? Or is this another example of a broken clock being correct once in a full moon?

Well, President Donald Trump is less of a “stopped” clock than a severely malfunctioning one, running forward or backward at varying rates with no discernible pattern, but I’m guessing that a Federal gas tax hike is going to have little-to-no chance in Congress because (in no particular order) 1) the Republican fetish against ANY “taxes”; 2) consumer resistance; 3) Limited “State” participation (i.e. state/local grift by the GOP owners of State Legislatures); 4) the primal fear that a nickel or two of Fed money might go to anything rail-related, etc.

re: #119 electrotek

I’m not holding my breath on this one either, but I’m surprised that he brought up the need to increase the fuel tax when other politicians consider it political suicide to even suggest such a thing.

I’m not: it’s an cheap out to try to look “Presidential” in terms of policy: Trump can make a suggestion (good, bad or indifferent) on a policy that he knows won’t fly: then, when it shows up DOA in Congress, he can just shrug and say “well, I tried”. And get media points for (finally) not looking like a complete political moron and backing a not-completely-moronic policy.

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Eventual Carrion  May 2, 2017 • 7:52:08am

re: #93 darthstar

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It’s cool, we can just file bankruptcy. Shaft the investors and walk away clean, right Donnie?

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2017 • 7:52:39am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2017 • 7:52:46am

re: #132 caseyjr

Insofar as the justification was 100% anti-commie. Domino theory and all that.

What about the Korean War? Wasn’t that also based on our desire to prevent Communism from spreading?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:54:21am

re: #139 Hecuba’s daughter

What about the Korean War? Wasn’t that also based on our desire to prevent Communism from spreading?

Yes. Undeclared as well though. But I did misspeak I concede. I still think Nazism’s horrors grabbed the public’s imagination more than Communism’s though.

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BeachDem  May 2, 2017 • 7:56:34am

In its latest hagiography about the lovely Ivanka, the NYT actually says:

By inserting herself into a scalding set of gender dynamics, she is becoming a proxy for dashed dreams of a female presidency

nytimes.com
Uh—NO!

(And, of course, it mentions her “book” that of course she is not promoting due to ethics issues, but let us tell you about her “book” that she is not promoting.)

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2017 • 7:58:17am

re: #141 BeachDem

she is becoming a proxy for dashed dreams of a female presidency

Go home, NYT, you’re drunk.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2017 • 7:58:55am

re: #138 Stanley Sea

Kaleb Horton ✔ @kalebhorton
Wait, hold up, let’s savor this: Donald Trump *didn’t even begin to understand* a metaphor made by *George W. Bush.*

My mother had dementia; you could not use any type of humor or metaphor in her presence without her misinterpreting your words; she took everything literally too, just like Trump.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 7:58:58am

re: #141 BeachDem

In its latest hagiography about the lovely Ivanka, the NYT actually says:

By inserting herself into a scalding set of gender dynamics, she is becoming a proxy for dashed dreams of a female presidency

nytimes.com
Uh—NO!

(And, of course, it mentions her “book” that of course she is not promoting due to ethics issues, but let us tell you about her “book” that she is not promoting.)

Yeah you can tell how much Ivanka really cares about women’s issues when it came out that the administration was cutting Mrs. Obama’s program that helped educate girls. Ivanka’s in this for Ivanka. This is the most male dominated administration in a long time.

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 8:03:35am

re: #139 Hecuba’s daughter

What about the Korean War? Wasn’t that also based on our desire to prevent Communism from spreading?

Wasn’t the Korean war also a UN Policing Action - not necessarily an American War. Also the French messed that area up (Korea, Vietnam) before hand and maybe it was the feeling as though they broke it and need to fix it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 8:06:00am

re: #141 BeachDem

In its latest hagiography about the lovely Ivanka, the NYT actually says:

By inserting herself into a scalding set of gender dynamics, she is becoming a proxy for dashed dreams of a female presidency

There is a kernel of sense behind this: I am sure that Ivanka is consciously positioning herself to appeal to a certain subset of HRC supporters who really did want to see a strong woman in the WH

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 8:07:42am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 8:07:49am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a kernel of sense behind this: I am sure that Ivanka is consciously positioning herself to appeal to a certain subset of HRC supporters who really did want to see a strong woman in the WH

Ivanka is not a strong woman, she’s a cardboard cut-out, she is a token. You can’t find even one achievement that she has independently accomplished.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 8:07:52am

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

My mother had dementia; you could not use any type of humor or metaphor in her presence without her misinterpreting your words; she took everything literally too, just like Trump.

He was also just being obtuse and bristling at the implication that he might have something to hide.

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 8:08:24am

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

My mother had dementia; you could not use any type of humor or metaphor in her presence without her misinterpreting your words; she took everything literally too, just like Trump.

My grandmother went through the same (my love to you and your mother). Every time we would visit Granny would call my mother Sarah (not my mothers name) and would ask where my mother was (she was right there *sigh*). Then Granny would go off that my mother would usually call her at that time of day so my mother would have to sneak out and call her on her cell phone while we were visiting.

Sounds a little like tRump calling Paul Ryan Ron, calling out names aimlessly looking for the person not noticing they are right in front of them. Taking a kids hat to sign - then forgets the kid gave him the hat and then throws it in the crowd.

Yep… tRump has something wrong, though my sympathy cannot be conjured because when he is lucid he is still a dick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 8:08:39am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka is not a strong woman, she’s a cardboard cut-out, she is a token. You can’t find even one achievement that she has independently accomplished.

That is entirely true, but it is about the image she is trying to project.

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BeachDem  May 2, 2017 • 8:10:00am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a kernel of sense behind this: I am sure that Ivanka is consciously positioning herself to appeal to a certain subset of HRC supporters who really did want to see a strong woman in the WH

Well, if so, it’s a subset I haven’t encountered.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:10:39am

re: #150 CongoJack

My grandmother went through the same (my love to you and your mother). Every time we would visit Granny would call my mother Sarah (not my mothers name) and would ask where my mother was (she was right there *sigh*). Then Granny would go off that my mother would usually call her at that time of day so my mother would have to sneak out and call her on her cell phone while we were visiting.

Sounds a little like tRump calling Paul Ryan Ron, calling out names aimlessly looking for the person not noticing they are right in front of them. Taking a kids hat to sign - then forgets the kid gave him the hat and then throws it in the crowd.

Yep… tRump has something wrong, though my sympathy cannot be conjured because when he is lucid he is still a dick.

Man our families have a lot in common. That’s how it was with my dad’s mother too. It was really sad because she mistook my Dad for my grandfather a couple of times- my grandfather had been gone over 20 years at that point. It was so sad to watch because she was such a sweet old lady who despite having six kids and several grand and great grandkids could see them all as individuals. It saddens me my youngest brother didn’t get to know her more and my other brother’s daughter never met her.

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 8:11:21am

re: #147 lawhawk

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Makes sense. Drax the Destroyer doesn’t understand metaphors. Donald the Destroyer doesn’t understand as well. The only different is what they destroy.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 8:11:36am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is entirely true, but it is about the image she is trying to project.

I don’t see her projecting any image other than entitled, privileged, rich white girl. She may have made an earlier attempt to appeal to upper-middle-class professional women with her product line but she’s not even trying for that any more.

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Jay C  May 2, 2017 • 8:11:51am

re: #145 CongoJack

Wasn’t the Korean war also a UN Policing Action - not necessarily an American War. Also the French messed that area up (Korea, Vietnam) before hand and maybe it was the feeling as though they broke it and need to fix it.

Actually, it was only Vietnam that the French messed up - and even single-handedly, they managed to do a bang-up job of it - Korea was a different brand of fail. A (unitary) Korea had been a Japanese colony/possession until the end of WWII, afterwards the USSR and the Allies (i.e. the US) jointly occupied the country, splitting it at the 38th Parallel, and each Occupier setting up a “friendly” regime: with, IIRC, vague intentions of “reunifying” the country at a later date. However, in June of 1950, the North decided that the “later date” was come…

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 8:12:01am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Except none of the policies are transferable between Clinton and Trump. There’s a Grand Canyon sized chasm between what their policies are (such as it is with Trump’s incessant vaporware/malware).

There’s no daylight between Ivanka and Donald. If there is, no one is seeing it, and Ivanka wouldn’t say something counter to what her dad’s doing. There’s no moderation in what Trump’s pushing either. None of Ivanka’s policies are getting advanced, and Trump’s positions are undermining everything Ivanka supposedly claims to be for.

This pair is a father/daughter version of Eva and Juan Peron.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 8:12:44am

re: #118 Timothy Watson

God, someone mentioned a couple weeks ago about how bad that new Weezer album was. I just heard part of one of the songs (“Feels Like Summer”) and want to deafen myself.

Whut?

Overall, Weezer has been pretty consistent. I’m gonna have to check that out.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:12:58am

re: #156 Jay C

Actually, it was only Vietnam that the French messed up - and even single-handedly, they managed to do a bang-up job of it - Korea was a different brand of fail. A (unitary) Korea had been a Japanese colony/possession until the end of WWII, afterwards the USSR and the Allies (i.e. the US) jointly occupied the country, splitting it at the 38th Parallel, and each Occupier setting up a “friendly” regime: with, IIRC, vague intentions of “reunifying” the country at a later date. However, in June of 1950, the North decided that the “later date” was come…

Right the Korea peninsula was never a French possession.

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2017 • 8:13:47am

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka is not a strong woman, she’s a cardboard cut-out, she is a token. You can’t find even one achievement that she has independently accomplished.

She was blessed to be born with good looks into a wealthy family. That’s about the extent of her “accomplishments”.

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calochortus  May 2, 2017 • 8:13:53am

re: #108 electrotek

Hell has frozen over, because there’s one thing I agree with Trump on.

And that is the need to increase fuel taxes to fund infrastructure projects.

Am I going nuts now? Or is this another example of a broken clock being correct once in a full moon?

No need to wait for Trump. CA just raised the gas tax by IIRC about 12 cents/gallon to do just that. Registration costs go up too. But we’ll get infrastructure. And conservatives will get something to whine about.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2017 • 8:14:14am

The 2 nanny 3 kid syndrome

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 2, 2017 • 8:14:47am

re: #158 ObserverArt

Whut?

Overall, Weezer has been pretty consistent. I’m gonna have to check that out.

It was me.

It’s a terrible single. Weezer’s just mailing it in now, and it’s sad.

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 8:15:12am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Man our families have a lot in common. That’s how it was with my dad’s mother too. It was really sad because she mistook my Dad for my grandfather a couple of times- my grandfather had been gone over 20 years at that point. It was so sad to watch because she was such a sweet old lady who despite having six kids and several grand and great grandkids could see them all as individuals. It saddens me my youngest brother didn’t get to know her more and my other brother’s daughter never met her.

Yep. Similar in a dozen different ways.

Sympathy hugs all around.

God bless those nurses and care providers for people with dementia - most under appreciated job in America (possibly only outdone by teachers).

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:15:51am

re: #162 Stanley Sea

The 2 nanny 3 kid syndrome

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Because she’s NOT progressive.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 8:16:03am

re: #160 Patricia Kayden

She was blessed to be born with good looks into a wealthy family. That’s about the extent of her “accomplishments”.

Those photos of preteen Ivanka with Daddy just give me the creeps every time I see them.

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 8:16:30am

re: #156 Jay C

Thanks for the refresher!

I need to go read a few of my college texts books again.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:17:18am

re: #164 CongoJack

Yep. Similar in a dozen different ways.

Sympathy hugs all around.

God bless those nurses and care providers for people with dementia - most under appreciated job in America (possibly only outdone by teachers).

When we finally had to move her into a home, we gave her little dog to one of the caregivers. I also remember the Meals on Wheels volunteers who were always so kind to her. Nana was lucky though to have a lot of us helping her. My dad would help her out in the days and one of my cousins would help her out at night. She really was the most gentle soul I ever knew and I miss her everyday.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 8:18:13am

re: #162 Stanley Sea

The 2 nanny 3 kid syndrome

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“I went back to work one week after having my child”

What breathtaking bullshit. I see she has inherited Daddy’s skill at telling lies.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 8:18:28am

re: #161 calochortus

No need to wait for Trump. CA just raised the gas tax by IIRC about 12 cents/gallon to do just that. Registration costs go up too. But we’ll get infrastructure. And conservatives will get something to whine about.

Given how awful LA roads are, especially DTLA, this is long overdue.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 8:19:17am

re: #123 Patricia Kayden

I don’t think the media cares about Trump pivoting. They’re now very busy normalizing Trump’s awfulness. They’re trying to make it seem that Trump is just an average President no different from his predecessors.

I have a feeling we may be at the tipping point where the obvious issues with Trump outweigh the media trying to make him normal. You can only cover over the mess so long before the mess is just overwhelming. At that point the media will look bad if they don’t tell the truths.

Should someone in the media go all in on an expose of Trump’s issues and gets a lot of attention from it, then the media might all jump on. We know the media loves to jump in when the water is warm and act like they’ve been into it all along. Should it happen it might start Trump’s downfall.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 8:22:04am

re: #158 ObserverArt

Weezer - I Love The USA

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:23:27am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

“I went back to work one week after having my child”

What breathtaking bullshit. I see she has inherited Daddy’s skill at telling lies.

Yep.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2017 • 8:24:32am
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Jay C  May 2, 2017 • 8:25:01am

re: #167 CongoJack

Thanks for the refresher!

I need to go read a few of my college texts books again.

Yr welcome. I’d especially recommend reading up on the history of Vietnam, and the Vietnam War - the whole “war”, not just the American part of it. IMO, it’s fascinating: if, unfortunately, a subject still distorted (for American audiences, anyway) by the colorations of “wartime propaganda”.

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BeachDem  May 2, 2017 • 8:26:06am

Guess I’m not the only one who has noticed Maggie Haberman et al’s penchant for melodrama:

The political is personal at the New York Times in soap opera-style take on Pelosi and Trump

dailykos.com

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:27:55am

re: #175 Jay C

Yr welcome. I’d especially recommend reading up on the history of Vietnam, and the Vietnam War - the whole “war”, not just the American part of it. IMO, it’s fascinating: if, unfortunately, a subject still distorted (for American audiences, anyway) by the colorations of “wartime propaganda”.

I do need to read more about that. The one thing I was not aware of when I was younger was the conflict between Vietnam’s primarily Catholic elite and Buddhist peasantry.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 8:30:53am

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

Joe and Mika championed Trump during his campaign so I just can’t take any of their criticism seriously. Way late when it may have been effective before the election.

This goes to the comment I made to you just above. I don’t care for Joe and Mika either. I am interested in seeing Trump gone. So, I’ll take what they are saying and forget the personalities delivering the message.

I don’t watch Fox News at all, but should the day come they too start doing reports on Trump’s issues and caution their viewers there are problems I will be glad that Fox did it. I still won’t watch.

It’s all about the message and facts and saving this country from the Orange Oaf. Whoever helps make it happen helps make it happen. We need everyone in on this.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 8:32:06am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

I do need to read more about that. The one thing I was not aware of when I was younger was the conflict between Vietnam’s primarily Catholic elite and Buddhist peasantry.

And much of the Catholic elite from Vietnam are in Garden Grove, CA nowadays.

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 8:32:23am

re: #175 Jay C

I have an old text book whose title I cant remember that went through every conflict since WWII. It was a good full representation of each war/conflict (not just ones the USA was involved in - my favorite and the one I remember the most was the Pakistani and Indian conflict).

Now that is going to bother me until I get home and dig through a few boxes to find it.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 8:33:01am

re: #175 Jay C

Yr welcome. I’d especially recommend reading up on the history of Vietnam, and the Vietnam War - the whole “war”, not just the American part of it. IMO, it’s fascinating: if, unfortunately, a subject still distorted (for American audiences, anyway) by the colorations of “wartime propaganda”.

I’ve encountered Vietnamese here who wax poetics about Ngo Dinh Diem, it’s pathetic. The man was a brutal psychopath who literally wanted an Inquisition in the country to rid the country of Buddhism.

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lizardofid  May 2, 2017 • 8:33:58am

re: #175 Jay C

Yr welcome. I’d especially recommend reading up on the history of Vietnam, and the Vietnam War - the whole “war”, not just the American part of it. IMO, it’s fascinating: if, unfortunately, a subject still distorted (for American audiences, anyway) by the colorations of “wartime propaganda”.

I agree, and wonder if Truman had been more receptive to Uncle Ho when he reached out in 1946, could history have been much different. Ho and his men were very helpful during the second world war, rescuing many allied airmen. I’m not sure he was so radical that he should have been untouchable.

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Jay C  May 2, 2017 • 8:36:31am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

I do need to read more about that. The one thing I was not aware of when I was younger was the conflict between Vietnam’s primarily Catholic elite and Buddhist peasantry.

Proving my point: the Catholic-Buddhist divide (a lasting relic of French colonialism) was an essential faultline in Vietnamese society for many decades; yet in the 1960’s the whole issue - aside from the occasional depiction of Vietnamese Buddhists as loony self-immolaters - was generally (in American media, anyway) ignored or subsumed in a simplistic “Communist/Anti-Communist” dichotomy.

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 8:36:31am

re: #181 electrotek

I’ve encountered Vietnamese here who wax poetics about Ngo Dinh Diem, it’s pathetic. The man was a brutal psychopath who literally wanted an Inquisition in the country to rid the country of Buddhism.

Also if memory serves Diem was given a path to peace with LBJ but the Nixon campaign intervened during the election and told Diem not to take the deal and that Nixon would give him more money/power (to thus make the war a campaign issue that Nixon was doing quite well playing the anti-war candidate).

Diem was killed a year or two later I believe.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:36:36am

re: #179 electrotek

And much of the Catholic elite from Vietnam are in Garden Grove, CA nowadays.

OC right.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2017 • 8:37:10am

re: #172 lawhawk

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It’s like Rivers is going Brian Wilson on us.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 8:37:25am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

OC right.

Yup, aka “Little Saigon”. They also tend to staunchly vote Republican. It’s not uncommon to encounter a lot of Trump supporters among their community.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  May 2, 2017 • 8:37:35am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I work in an Assisted/Independent Living community.

You and CongoJack are absolutely correct — the caregivers who work with dementia/Alzheimer’s patients are the most caring and loving people (I know there are some shitty ones out there, luckily they are the exception and not the rule). They are also underappreciated and woefully underpaid. We see it everyday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 8:37:43am

re: #182 lizardofid

I agree, and wonder if Truman had been more receptive to Uncle Ho when he reached out in 1946, could history have been much different. Ho and his men were very helpful during the second world war, rescuing many allied airmen. I’m not sure he was so radical that he should have been untouchable.

Uncle Ho was pragmatic, and that pragmatism meant that having good relations with the Chinese was more important than embracing US capitalism. That automatically turned him into an enemy of the our ideology.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:38:00am

re: #181 electrotek

I’ve encountered Vietnamese here who wax poetics about Ngo Dinh Diem, it’s pathetic. The man was a brutal psychopath who literally wanted an Inquisition in the country to rid the country of Buddhism.

My brother one time visited a Cuban restaurant owned by a guy who was very much part of the pre-revolution elite. He said the guy was nice enough but very defensive when it came to talking about how Cuba was before the Revolution. It’s interesting though because I imagine if most right wing racists saw the people you’re talking about, they’d have tons of racial slurs in mind not aware that the person is like minded.

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Jay C  May 2, 2017 • 8:38:19am

re: #181 electrotek

I’ve encountered Vietnamese here who wax poetics about Ngo Dinh Diem, it’s pathetic. The man was a brutal psychopath who literally wanted an Inquisition in the country to rid the country of Buddhism.

It would have been kind of an uphill slog, as (I think) 85-90% of (South) Vietnam was Buddhist, but yeah….

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 8:38:43am

re: #174 Stanley Sea

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CongoJack  May 2, 2017 • 8:39:18am

re: #182 lizardofid

I agree, and wonder if Truman had been more receptive to Uncle Ho when he reached out in 1946, could history have been much different. Ho and his men were very helpful during the second world war, rescuing many allied airmen. I’m not sure he was so radical that he should have been untouchable.

Ho was pro-American until America started to invade. Then out of necessity he went to the communists states for assistance. He was not a communist ideologue - he just wanted equality (to cut a long story short).

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:40:08am

re: #183 Jay C

Proving my point: the Catholic-Buddhist divide (a lasting relic of French colonialism) was an essential faultline in Vietnamese society for many decades; yet in the 1960’s the whole issue - aside from the occasional depiction of Vietnamese Buddhists as loony self-immolaters - was generally (in American media, anyway) ignored or subsumed in a simplistic “Communist/Anti-Communist” dichotomy.

Right, it’s something that no one really talked about during hte Vietnam Era. I wasn’t alive but it was all Domino Theory and all that. Honestly, anti-communists in their zeal never understand why some groups turned to the Communists. Latin and South America, a lot of the things going on there that we intervened in during hte Reagan years were conflicts between elites and indigenous peoples.

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2017 • 8:40:40am

re: #184 CongoJack

Also if memory serves Diem was given a path to peace with LBJ but the Nixon campaign intervened during the election and told Diem not to take the deal and that Nixon would give him more money/power (to thus make the war a campaign issue that Nixon was doing quite well playing the anti-war candidate).

Diem was killed a year or two later I believe.

IIRC, Diem was assassinated in 1963 - a few weeks before JFK, actually.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 8:41:16am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

My brother one time visited a Cuban restaurant owned by a guy who was very much part of the pre-revolution elite. He said the guy was nice enough but very defensive when it came to talking about how Cuba was before the Revolution. It’s interesting though because I imagine if most right wing racists saw the people you’re talking about, they’d have tons of racial slurs in mind not aware that the person is like minded.

Reminds me of Iranian exiles in LA and DC who believe “Islam ruined Iran”…nevermind the fact that Iran has been Muslim for over a thousand years and that even their beloved shah himself was known to make pilgrimmages to Makkah.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:41:40am

re: #184 CongoJack

Also if memory serves Diem was given a path to peace with LBJ but the Nixon campaign intervened during the election and told Diem not to take the deal and that Nixon would give him more money/power (to thus make the war a campaign issue that Nixon was doing quite well playing the anti-war candidate).

Diem was killed a year or two later I believe.

I believe that was Anna Chennault. Diem was dead by then though. having died in ‘63.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  May 2, 2017 • 8:42:10am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Right, it’s something that no one really talked about during hte Vietnam Era. I wasn’t alive but it was all Domino Theory and all that. Honestly, anti-communists in their zeal never understand why some groups turned to the Communists. Latin and South America, a lot of the things going on there that we intervened in during hte Reagan years were conflicts between elites and indigenous peoples.

Not the same, but the idea of why in the 50’s and 60’s, some Blacks turned to the nation of Islam, away from Christianity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 8:42:16am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Right, it’s something that no one really talked about during hte Vietnam Era. I wasn’t alive but it was all Domino Theory and all that. Honestly, anti-communists in their zeal never understand why some groups turned to the Communists. Latin and South America, a lot of the things going on there that we intervened in during hte Reagan years were conflicts between elites and indigenous peoples.

This all calls for a people with enough knowledge of history to understand pollitical, social, cultural and religious nuances. Not people who think Andrew Jackson is twice as valuable as Hamilton, four times more valuable than Lincoln and twenty times more valuable than George Washington…

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 8:42:31am

Furthermore, a lot of the Vietnamese Catholic elite obviously settled in France over a span of a few decades during French colonial rule and post-colonial rule and are very well integrated to French society.

Gee, wonder why?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:43:26am

re: #187 electrotek

Yup, aka “Little Saigon”. They also tend to staunchly vote Republican. It’s not uncommon to encounter a lot of Trump supporters among their community.

It sounds similar to the Cubans in Miami honestly. I imagine the younger generation is less right wing though much like the Cubans.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 8:44:00am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Yeah you can tell how much Ivanka really cares about women’s issues when it came out that the administration was cutting Mrs. Obama’s program that helped educate girls. Ivanka’s in this for Ivanka. This is the most male dominated administration in a long time.

Trump’s kids are brainwashed. I don’t think they can think any other way than what in it for them personally. That family was so tight it is almost inbred. It’s like Trump protected them so much he has made them socially unaware and that other real people exist and are not all marks for their con.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:44:23am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This all calls for a people with enough knowledge of history to understand pollitical, social, cultural and religious nuances. Not people who think Andrew Jackson is twice as valuable as Hamilton, four times more valuable than Lincoln and twenty times more valuable than George Washington…

People want simple answers to complex questions.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 8:46:29am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

It sounds similar to the Cubans in Miami honestly. I imagine the younger generation is less right wing though much like the Cubans.

It’s ironic because a lot of them had to rely on state-sponsored assistance and federal welfare programs to get by after they came here on boats literally.

On one hand, from a fiscal viewpoint I would understand why they would gravitate towards the GOP as they really worked their way up to get where they are at now, but on the flipside, they are the living proof that state-sponsored assistance helps people give them a lift to self-sustainability.

And that is why being a Republican is counterproductive from that viewpoint.

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Timothy Watson  May 2, 2017 • 8:47:14am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This all calls for a people with enough knowledge of history to understand pollitical, social, cultural and religious nuances. Not people who think Andrew Jackson is twice as valuable as Hamilton, four times more valuable than Lincoln and twenty times more valuable than George Washington…

Imagine the deal Benjamin Franklin could have made to stop the Civil War!

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Belafon  May 2, 2017 • 8:47:18am

re: #182 lizardofid

I agree, and wonder if Truman had been more receptive to Uncle Ho when he reached out in 1946, could history have been much different. Ho and his men were very helpful during the second world war, rescuing many allied airmen. I’m not sure he was so radical that he should have been untouchable.

My favorite part of the history of the US and Vietnam is when Ho Chi Minh attempted to petition Woodrow Wilson to get the French out. Wilson had made this great speech, the 14 points speech, about how countries needed to be left on their own, and Ho Chi Minh thought it could be applied to Vietnam. But Wilson was talking about the Soviet’s intervention in Europe and, due to his racism, thought the French were good for Vietnam, so he refused to acknowledge Ho Chi Minh.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  May 2, 2017 • 8:47:31am

Sad news, but he died doing what he loved best. RIP.

Col. Bruce Hampton dies after collapsing on stage during his own birthday concert

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:48:29am

re: #204 electrotek

It’s ironic because a lot of them had to rely on state-sponsored assistance and federal welfare programs to get by after they came here on boats literally.

On one hand, from a fiscal viewpoint I would understand why they would gravitate towards the GOP as they really worked their way up to get where they are at now, but on the flipside, they are the living proof that state-sponsored assistance helps people give them a lift to self-sustainability.

And that is why being a Republican is counterproductive from that viewpoint.

The GOP wants to delude you into thinking that you alone made it to where you are wtthout anyone’s help. Anyone President Ford’s policies on Vietnamese refugees is a credit to him as both a man and president. Compare him with Trump.

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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2017 • 8:48:39am

re: #206 Belafon

My favorite part of the history of the US and Vietnam is when Ho Chi Minh attempted to petition Woodrow Wilson to get the French out. Wilson had made this great speech, the 14 points speech, about how countries needed to be left on their own, and Ho Chi Minh thought it could be applied to Vietnam. But Wilson was talking about the Soviet’s intervention in Europe and, due to his racism, thought the French were good for Vietnam, so he refused to acknowledge Ho Chi Minh.

He briefly—and inadvertently— gave hope to Koreans, Chinese, and Indians, too.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:49:34am

re: #206 Belafon

My favorite part of the history of the US and Vietnam is when Ho Chi Minh attempted to petition Woodrow Wilson to get the French out. Wilson had made this great speech, the 14 points speech, about how countries needed to be left on their own, and Ho Chi Minh thought it could be applied to Vietnam. But Wilson was talking about the Soviet’s intervention in Europe and, due to his racism, thought the French were good for Vietnam, so he refused to acknowledge Ho Chi Minh.

He also was a dick to the Irish due to his Anglophila. He was worse to Ho Chi Minh and the Vietnamese delegation though. Wilson’s principles were good except that he was a racist ass.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:50:14am

re: #209 Barefoot Grin

He briefly—and inadvertently— gave hope to Koreans, Chinese, and Indians, too.

Which is why as much as I hate Glenn Beck, he’s not wrong about Wilson being crappy albeit for different reasons.

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2017 • 8:50:46am
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lizardofid  May 2, 2017 • 8:53:18am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Uncle Ho was pragmatic, and that pragmatism meant that having good relations with the Chinese was more important than embracing US capitalism. That automatically turned him into an enemy of the our ideology.

I accept that, but then why did he reach out? Is it possible that his ideology could be looked at as a spectrum. Did the burden of shedding French colonialism, without help from the capitalist Americans, push him further to the left?

I’ll readily admit I’m way out of my depth here. But still I wonder.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 8:55:07am
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Jay C  May 2, 2017 • 8:55:33am

re: #193 CongoJack

Ho was pro-American until America started to invade. Then out of necessity he went to the communists states for assistance. He was not a communist ideologue - he just wanted equality (to cut a long story short).

Actually, I think the “invasion” that cemented Ho’s ideological enmities was in 1946, when, for a number of reasons, new French leader De Gaulle sent French forces to Vietnam to re-establish their colonial regime, and eliminate the indigenous government Ho had declared in Sept. 1945.
Given the choice between supporting “France”, or, what they viewed as a mere gang of little Asian commies, the Truman Administration went with the “obvious” choice. The rest, sadly, is history…

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Belafon  May 2, 2017 • 8:56:29am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Uncle Ho was pragmatic, and that pragmatism meant that having good relations with the Chinese was more important than embracing US capitalism. That automatically turned him into an enemy of the our ideology.

Though his good relations with China didn’t extend to China trying to move into the country after the US left.

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FormerDirtDart  May 2, 2017 • 8:57:09am
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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2017 • 8:58:08am

re: #216 Belafon

Though his good relations with China didn’t extend to China trying to move into the country after the US left.

China invaded for about one month in 1979 to teach the Vietnamese a lesson for their invasion of China’s primary ally Cambodia. It turned out to be a costly lesson for the Chinese, but they got to spin it as victory.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 8:58:10am

re: #216 Belafon

Though his good relations with China didn’t extend to China trying to move into the country after the US left.

Well Ho was first and foremost a Vietnamese nationlaist so that makes sense. Mao didn’t like Stalin and Khrushchev interfering in Chinese affairs eitehr.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2017 • 8:59:14am

re: #212 Charles Johnson

He is desperate to get some legislation passed.

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lizardofid  May 2, 2017 • 8:59:20am

re: #193 CongoJack

Ho was pro-American until America started to invade. Then out of necessity he went to the communists states for assistance. He was not a communist ideologue - he just wanted equality (to cut a long story short).

More nationalist than hard communist? If so, maybe he could have/should have been accommodated and the French rubber plantation owners told to pound sand.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2017 • 8:59:28am
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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 8:59:55am

re: #180 CongoJack

I have an old text book whose title I cant remember that went through every conflict since WWII. It was a good full representation of each war/conflict (not just ones the USA was involved in - my favorite and the one I remember the most was the Pakistani and Indian conflict).

Now that is going to bother me until I get home and dig through a few boxes to find it.

That book can never truly be old. Hopefully it has new editions because sadly the wars/conflicts haven’t stopped and most likely never will.

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 9:00:24am

re: #215 Jay C

Actually, I think the “invasion” that cemented Ho’s ideological enmities was in 1946, when, for a number of reasons, new French leader De Gaulle sent French forces to Vietnam to re-establish their colonial regime, and eliminate the indigenous government Ho had declared in Sept. 1945.
Given the choice between supporting “France”, or, what they viewed as a mere gang of little Asian commies, the Truman Administration went with the “obvious” choice. The rest, sadly, is history…

Wonder if there are any French folks who cry about the loss of French Indochina the way they still cry about the loss of Algeria.

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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2017 • 9:00:57am

re: #221 lizardofid

More nationalist than hard communist? If so, maybe he could have/should have been accommodated and the French rubber plantation owners told to pound sand.

I think De Gaulle was playing cute with NATO participation in exchange for US support, IIRC. Also, “containment” was the watchword.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 9:00:59am

re: #222 makeitstop

And yet the GOP took all the accumulated evidence and was like? Okay. No biggie. Let’s just move on to agenda item Order 66 (crush health care coverage for millions).

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:01:42am

re: #221 lizardofid

More nationalist than hard communist? If so, maybe he could have/should have been accommodated and the French rubber plantation owners told to pound sand.

I think he was both a nationalist and someone who wanted to fix the wide disparities that existed in Vietnamese society and our FP makers weren’t interested in hearing about that. A lot of the people we labeled communists in the Cold War were honestly people who wanted to modernize their country after yars of colonial rule and fix the problems that colonialism had created.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:03:47am

Re: Mao, a lot of people don’t know this or at least I didn’t know the USSR favored Chiang Kai-Shek and the KMT before they did the Chinese Communist Party. Stalin saw the Chinese Communist Party as a threat. We weren’t the only ones that played realpolitk to achieve our goals.

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wheat-dogg  May 2, 2017 • 9:05:40am

re: #114 Timothy Watson

Hmm…Charles mentioned PragerU yesterday because he was getting their ads on YouTube prior to watching Keith Olbermann’s video.

I wonder if some ad network connected the information.

Somehow PragerU ended up in my YouTube subscription list and I swear I never subscribed to it. Anyway, I unsubscribed. It was a close call.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:08:25am

And our anti-communist zeal did NOT extend to Romania even though Nicolae Ceausescu was brutal. He didn’t like Moscow though so we even our hardliners like Reagan left him alone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 9:09:38am

re: #230 HappyWarrior

And our anti-communist zeal did NOT extend to Romania even though Nicolae Ceausescu was brutal. He didn’t like Moscow though so we even our hardliners like Reagan left him alone.

That was Ceaucescu’s last gambit when he was going down: he recalled the times that he “stood up to Moscow”

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:10:04am

We used anti-communism often as an excuse whether it was keeping a racist regime in charge- South Africa, a regime whose economic policies benefitted us- Iran, or for geography the many right wing regimes in Latin America.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 9:10:33am

re: #186 makeitstop

It’s like Rivers is going Brian Wilson on us.

There always seems to be that time in many rockers careers where they want to become more than rockers and be what they see as famous songwriters in a classical sense…and be known as an Irving Berlin or George Gershwin for all time.

To me Elvis Costello passed into that for some time. And then he decided to get back to his rocking roots. Others have gone through it too.

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unproven innocence  May 2, 2017 • 9:10:38am

re: #212 Charles Johnson

Anarchy is a secret sauce that authoritarians seem to love.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:11:09am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was Ceaucescu’s last gambit when he was going down: he recalled the times that he “stood up to Moscow”

Him, Hoxha, and Tito were the only Eastern bloc nations that opposed the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968 IIRC. We never tried extending branches to Hoxha though because Ol’ Enver thought that Mao wasn’t pure enough for his vision of communism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 9:11:30am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

We used anti-communism often as an excuse whether it was keeping a racist regime in charge- South Africa, a regime whose economic policies benefitted us- Iran, or for geography the many right wing regimes in Latin America.

And The USSR also kept tinhorn authoritarian dictators in charge of its central Asian and Caucasus republics as long as they served Moscow’s interests…

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 9:13:18am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

We used anti-communism often as an excuse whether it was keeping a racist regime in charge- South Africa, a regime whose economic policies benefitted us- Iran, or for geography the many right wing regimes in Latin America.

And many Muslim governments used anti-Communism as an excuse to prop up Islamic movements as a counterweight to the secular leftists at the time.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 9:13:19am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Right, it’s something that no one really talked about during hte Vietnam Era. I wasn’t alive but it was all Domino Theory and all that. Honestly, anti-communists in their zeal never understand why some groups turned to the Communists. Latin and South America, a lot of the things going on there that we intervened in during hte Reagan years were conflicts between elites and indigenous peoples.

I note how religion also played into the politics of the wars. So many wars have the two tied together.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2017 • 9:14:19am
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lizardofid  May 2, 2017 • 9:14:31am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And The USSR also kept tinhorn authoritarian dictators in charge of its central Asian and Caucasus republics as long as they served Moscow’s interests…

Almost symbiotic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2017 • 9:14:46am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:16:05am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:17:00am

re: #238 ObserverArt

I note how religion also played into the politics of the wars. So many wars have the two tied together.

Yep.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2017 • 9:17:27am

re: #233 ObserverArt

There always seems to be that time in many rockers careers where they want to become more than rockers and be what they see as famous songwriters in a classical sense…and be known as an Irving Berlin or George Gershwin for all time.

To me Elvis Costello passed into that for some time. And then he decided to get back to his rocking roots. Others have gone through it too.

Rivers is an odd dude to begin with, and from reading interviews with him he’s always seemed to float just outside the ‘rock star’ classification, even while cleverly using it and turning it on its head by presenting Weezer in different ways. I think his upbringing in an ashram gave him built-in ironic distance and he realized the difference between being a rock star and acting like one. He’s always kept a separation there, and I think that’s what endears him to so many of his fans.

Still - not feelin’ the new album, at least not yet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2017 • 9:19:53am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

He thinks ever public appearance is a fucking campaign rally.

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Belafon  May 2, 2017 • 9:20:51am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, Donald, welcome to the world the rest of us enjoy. We don’t always get what we want, or what we need, and we have to compromise with those around us. Deal with it and grow up.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 9:23:09am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

The GOP wants to delude you into thinking that you alone made it to where you are wtthout anyone’s help. Anyone President Ford’s policies on Vietnamese refugees is a credit to him as both a man and president. Compare him with Trump.

There really is no comparison. Old time Republicans like Gerry Ford are simply no more.

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2017 • 9:23:29am

re: #14 Anymouse

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makeitstop  May 2, 2017 • 9:23:55am

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 9:25:14am

re: #212 Charles Johnson

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Next up: holding his breath, stomping his feet and crying he is not getting his way.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:25:16am

re: #247 ObserverArt

There really is no comparison. Old time Republicans like Gerry Ford are simply no more.

I have no idea how I would have voted in 1976 but Gerry Ford was a good man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 9:32:16am

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I have no idea how I would have voted in 1976 but Gerry Ford was a good man.

I was not voting age yet, but would never have considered voting for the man who pardoned Richard Nixon

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 9:32:50am

re: #246 Belafon

Hey, Donald, welcome to the world the rest of us enjoy. We don’t always get what we want, or what we need, and we have to compromise with those around us. Deal with it and grow up.

“You can’t always get what you want!”

I think those are the lyrics of a famous song by a famous rock band that had the song used in some political campaign just last year. Hmmm.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 9:33:07am

Gillibrand says she’s focused on running for reelection next year for the US Senate. That wont stop the speculation though, and she’d be a good choice. Pragmatic, decisive, and she took a stronger stance against Trump nominees than everyone else, including Booker or Sanders.

A good test will be to see what she does w/infrastructure coming up later this year, and whether she can get funding secured for the Northeast Corridor (assuming the Trump/GOP even pushes a bill forward).

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 9:34:56am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:35:17am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was not voting age yet, but would never have considered voting for the man who pardoned Richard Nixon

That probably would have been a deal breaker for me too even if he did ultimately do the right thing.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:36:00am

re: #254 lawhawk

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Gillibrand says she’s focused on running for reelection next year for the US Senate. That wont stop the speculation though, and she’d be a good choice. Pragmatic, decisive, and she took a stronger stance against Trump nominees than everyone else, including Booker or Sanders.

A good test will be to see what she does w/infrastructure coming up later this year, and whether she can get funding secured for the Northeast Corridor (assuming the Trump/GOP even pushes a bill forward).

I like her a lot.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 9:36:53am

re: #249 makeitstop

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 9:37:47am

re: #255 darthstar

Reflecting on last month’s strike, ordered as Trump hosted Chinese President Xi Jinping at his Mar-a-Lago estate, Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross said: “It was in lieu of after-dinner entertainment.”

The thing was, it didn’t cost the President anything to have that entertainment,” Ross said

Makes you wonder how he’ll see ground war battles.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2017 • 9:38:21am

And it’s still early.

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darthstar  May 2, 2017 • 9:39:54am

I know it’s futile of me to try, but I add @POTUS to the most egregious things Trump does so there’s a chance it’ll be in a permanent archive somewhere…

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 9:42:02am

re: #259 darthstar

Makes you wonder how he’ll see ground war battles.

Coffins as props for him to look “presidential.”

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FormerDirtDart  May 2, 2017 • 9:45:09am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:47:46am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart

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Not so smart are you Paul. Too bad your father died because if he hadn’t, you would have actually had to see what other people go through.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2017 • 9:48:48am

Just called my rep’s office again. He’s an undecided, but is never on any list.

CALL

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makeitstop  May 2, 2017 • 9:49:05am

re: #258 ObserverArt

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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2017 • 9:50:03am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart

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Policy Wonk, Esq.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 9:50:18am

re: #260 Stanley Sea

Austin Lounge Lizards did a song on that topic

Pizza on the Ground

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2017 • 9:51:49am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart

VERIFIED!!!

I guess that’s the new Confirmed. FACT!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 2, 2017 • 9:52:57am

VERIFIED: War is peace. Vote Trumpcare(tm), Citizen

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2017 • 9:53:19am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart

Remember, before the ACA, how the GOP fought to protect people with pre-existing medical conditions?

Yeah, me neither.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2017 • 9:55:44am

LePage, Don Young of AK & the Yam.

All addled & in office.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 9:58:36am

re: #272 Stanley Sea

LePage, Don Young of AK & the Yam.

All addled & in office.

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What a boob.

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wrenchwench  May 2, 2017 • 10:01:40am

re: #260 Stanley Sea

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And it’s still early.

I saw a tweet yesterday where that girl meets Goth-with-a-raven-on-her-knee girl, and they feed pizza to the raven.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 10:03:57am

Ryan lies. Clinton drops a truth bomb courtesy of Jimmy Kimmel’s moving story about his newborn child’s health crisis.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 2, 2017 • 10:04:12am

WTF MarketWatch?!

Hypocrite Obama cashes in instead of manning the barricades

Yeah. I sent them a nice tweet.

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FormerDirtDart  May 2, 2017 • 10:05:24am
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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2017 • 10:05:57am

re: #276 GlutenFreeJesus

WTF MarketWatch?!

Hypocrite Obama cashes in instead of manning the barricades

Yeah. I sent them a nice tweet.

“manning the barricades”?

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(alpuz)  May 2, 2017 • 10:06:06am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Austin Lounge Lizards did a song on that topic

Pizza on the Ground

Ha! I did the Pizza on the Ground thing on one of my first nights in Austin. Actually, it was pizza on the ground(w/pineapple) from the heavy metal pizza joint on 6th street.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:06:22am

re: #277 FormerDirtDart

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Poor widdle racists.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 10:06:45am

4 REASONS FOR THE CIVIL WAR

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:08:12am

re: #276 GlutenFreeJesus

WTF MarketWatch?!

Hypocrite Obama cashes in instead of manning the barricades

Yeah. I sent them a nice tweet.

Has any President done that sicne leaving office or does the far left just extend their bullshit expectations to Obama because they feel he “betrayed” them. I’m getting really sick and tired of the far elft. The BB in my time line is bitchng about EMILY’s list today. I swear nice person but if someone doesn’t endorse Sanders, they’re dead to them and it really pisses me off that Sanders has created a cult of personality like this.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:08:38am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

4 REASONS FOR THE CIVIL WAR

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Yep!

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wrenchwench  May 2, 2017 • 10:09:50am

I saw mention of Goth being a guy.

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Romantic Heretic  May 2, 2017 • 10:10:29am

re: #175 Jay C

Recommended read on the subject: The Ten Thousand Day War.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:10:32am

Obama spent the past 25 years fighting for progressive causes. He stood up for the rights of LGBT Americans like no president before. Oh but he’s not demanding that we throw people in jail because they work on Wall STreet. HE’s dead to me! //

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2017 • 10:12:19am

Damn it sure is freaking windy today here in Ohio. Strange weather this spring or summer or whatever it is.

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2017 • 10:13:20am

Found on the internet:

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electrotek  May 2, 2017 • 10:13:43am

Detroit techno legend and Underground Resistance founder Jeff Mills getting his much-needed recognition here:

Good thing this was done before Marine Le Pen takes over.

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2017 • 10:13:51am

re: #248 gocart mozart

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Hey, let’s just split hte baby—4/5ths sound good?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 10:14:01am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile for those clinging to gauzy lies on the causes of secession, here it is in the South’s own words: slavery.

It takes a special sort of revisionist white supremacist mental acrobatics to go from “There were causes other than slavery that also led to the Civil War” to “Slavery was not a cause of the Civil War!”

And yes, it is true that most of the Confederate soldiers did not even own slaves…because slave owners with more than twenty slaves at home were exempted from the draft.

And again, remember, all you fans of Southern Heritage, that the reason for slavery was that the white settlers were too damn lazy to do all the hard work of raising tobacco, sugar and cotton, so they found it easier to import people as agricultural machinery and threaten them with hunger, hardship, pain, disfigurement or even death if they refused to work for free.

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FormerDirtDart  May 2, 2017 • 10:14:04am

Of course this is just snark, as they would never be in favor of the little people having access to easier protections under bankruptcy laws…

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:14:58am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It takes a special sort of revisionist white supremacist acrobatics to go from “There were causes other than slavery that also led to the Civil War” to “Slavery was not a cause of the Civil War”

And again, remember, all you fans of Southern Heritage, that the reason for slavery was that the white settlers were too damn lazy to do all the hard work of raising tobacco, sugar and cotton, so they found it easier to import people as agricultural machinery and threaten them with hunger, hardship, pain, disfigurement or even death if they refused to work for free.

And yet these are the same kind of people who talk about “moochers.”

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austin_blue  May 2, 2017 • 10:17:53am

Trump’s nom for Sec’y of the Army is a Creationist?

Of course he is:

cnn.com

Dog help us all…

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:20:33am

re: #294 austin_blue

Trump’s nom for Sec’y of the Army is a Creationist?

Of course he is:

cnn.com

Dog help us all…

A creationist who denies the Theory of Relativity too apparently.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2017 • 10:22:37am

It’s also a reminder that far too many Democrats ran away from defending the ACA/Obamacare, and folded like cheap suits when the GOP lied about what the ACA/Obamacare would do.

The GOP is still at it with the lies, all to further their tax cutting and burden shifting agenda, but at least there’s a sizable number of Democrats are who pushing back against the lies.

The lies are starting at the top - with Ryan and Trump both making bogus claims about how Obamacare is failing, or what’s contained in their zombie Trumpcare v.2 regarding preexisting conditions. They have to lie to further their agenda, because if the facts were known and acknowledged by the GOP, they’d be unable to move this bill any more than they could the first crapulent version.

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austin_blue  May 2, 2017 • 10:23:15am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

A creationist who denies the Theory of Relativity too apparently.

Can’t make this shit up, can you?

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2017 • 10:23:30am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 10:23:48am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

A creationist who denies the Theory of Relativity too apparently.

But probably loves Social Darwinism and Great Big Nukes.

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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2017 • 10:25:09am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

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Is he tweeting that from his Moscow apartment?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:25:54am

re: #296 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

It’s also a reminder that far too many Democrats ran away from defending the ACA/Obamacare, and folded like cheap suits when the GOP lied about what the ACA/Obamacare would do.

The GOP is still at it with the lies, all to further their tax cutting and burden shifting agenda, but at least there’s a sizable number of Democrats are who pushing back against the lies.

The lies are starting at the top - with Ryan and Trump both making bogus claims about how Obamacare is failing, or what’s contained in their zombie Trumpcare v.2 regarding preexisting conditions. They have to lie to further their agenda, because if the facts were known and acknowledged by the GOP, they’d be unable to move this bill any more than they could the first crapulent version.

It’s funny. I remember watching Jimmy and Adam Carrolla on the Man Show. Jimmy turned out to be a great guy. Adam turned out ot be “Fuck you, I’m rich.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2017 • 10:26:06am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

Can’t make this shit up, can you?

Does he forget that Lincoln, the putative violator of the Declaration of the Principles of the Declaration of Independence, was a (gasp) REPUBLICAN?!?

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Anymouse  May 2, 2017 • 10:26:08am

re: #64 Mike Lamb

Had to say goodbye to my 14 year old Viszla last night. Man, he was the weirdest, sweetest, most fun dog ever. My 3 year old son knew something was wrong last night, but fell asleep before we left. I’m not looking forward to answering his question.

[[[Mike Lamb]]] I’m so sorry for your family’s loss of it’s beloved furball.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:27:20am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

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Then “Dr.” Duke, you can explain why the CSA suppressed secession within its borders. Oh and genius, Lincoln wasn’t President when most of them seceded .IT was a gigantic temper tantrum because they couldn’t accept Lincoln’s presidency and opposition to slavery.

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wrenchwench  May 2, 2017 • 10:27:44am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2017 • 10:27:51am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But probably loves Social Darwinism and Great Big Nukes.

He has a R next to his name, guaranteed.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2017 • 10:35:05am
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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2017 • 10:35:11am
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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2017 • 10:36:46am

re: #308 Stanley Sea

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He needs to cut to the chase and hold a rally at Altamont.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 2, 2017 • 11:14:10am

re: #64 Mike Lamb

So sorry for your loss. 14 years seems like a long time, until you get to the end of it. Knowing what a great life you gave him might not help much today but eventually it will. My condolences to you and everybody else who loved him.

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NoSoapForYou  May 2, 2017 • 7:32:04pm

re: #3 darthstar

I think that’s what is referred to as, “child-bearing hips.”


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