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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:11:25am

Brought over from old thread. Here is Andre the Giant holding a beer can.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:12:17am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:12:38am
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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:15:19am

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

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Is ar-15 a congressional district?

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jaunte  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:16:19am

re: #4 dangerman

Too few people, so far:
en.wikipedia.org

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CongoJack  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:17:01am

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

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The comments on that tweet are… *sigh* … mostly frustrating.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:17:29am

re: #2 Kragar

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This is horrible, this idea.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:18:48am

Well, this is crap:

Police officer’s suit against woman whose son was killed in collision ‘offensive’: Lawyer (ABC)

A police officer with a history of car crashes is suing a woman who’s car he crashed into, killing her child.

A New Mexico police officer with a history of being reprimanded for on-duty crashes filed a lawsuit against a woman whose 6-year-old son was killed when the officer slammed into their vehicle while speeding to a crime in progress.

Jonathan McDonnell of the Albuquerque Police Department filed the civil suit against Antoinette Suina, charging she “failed to yield to an emergency vehicle” when she turned in front of his speeding patrol car in 2017.

McDonnell’s suit counters one Suina filed in January against him and the city of Albuquerque, charging the officer’s “deliberate, intentional, and/or reckless” conduct led to the crash that killed her boy and left her and her 9-year-old daughter, Adriana, severely injured.

“Having killed Ms. Suina’s son, it’s somewhat offensive that he would turn around and sue her and heap more tragedy on this family,” the mother’s lawyer, Geoffrey Romero, told ABC News Thursday. “In effect, it’s blaming her for the death of her son.”

(more)

He was involved in five crashes and one unauthorised pursuit. He has been suspended three times.

(with pictures of the crash and a link to surveillance video showing it)

The officer is on disability leave for his injuries.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:18:56am

re: #6 CongoJack

The comments on that tweet are… *sigh* … mostly frustrating.

I’m not surprised. Ammosexuals get more mad st the destruction of guns than life.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:19:10am

re: #4 dangerman

Is ar-15 a congressional district?

thankfully, no.

:)

(maybe a state one)

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jaunte  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:20:35am

“Tower Girl” is live on the UT Falcon Cam:
biodiversity.utexas.edu

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Sir John Barron  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:21:19am

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

This should make for another exciting NRA video.

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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:21:19am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:25:45am

re: #6 CongoJack

The comments on that tweet are… *sigh* … mostly frustrating.

Plenty of them are saying she broke the law by not destroying the upper and lower receivers and making a sawed-off gun (or that she’s a woman and a man could have done it faster and this is why equal pay is BS)

a) The upper receiver is not required to be destroyed. (These would be the “magazine not clip” pedants.)
b) They don’t know what she did with the rest of the gun after the video.
c) There is 27% of any population which cannot be reached.
d) Unfortunately, gun stunts by Democrats don’t work out well in adverts. Jason Kander in Missouri against Roy Blunt comes to mind, where he assembled an AR-15 blindfolded in his advert.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:27:20am

re: #13 JordanRules

Is it too soon to talk about guns yet, or is shooting veterans not enough (party of life, dead children; party of military support, dead vets; I’m sensing a theme here).

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jaunte  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:27:52am
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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:30:24am
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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:34:23am

What do y’all think?

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Interesting Times  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:35:25am
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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:38:24am
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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:39:11am
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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:39:12am

re: #17 Kragar

“”The president is getting promises out of North Korea that haven’t been made in many recent years.”“

The President doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Jong Un knows exactly what he’s getting and it’s the fact that he’s gotten Trump to treat him as an equal and opened the door to face to face talks despite fact that US policy has been no direct talks unless North Korea dismantles their nuclear program first.

That’s what Trump just flat-out ripped up and totally ignored. Jong Un hasn’t made any promises and has only gotten a win because he played Trump.

Everyone is playing Trump.

North Korea is playing him. South Korea is playing Trump too. On top of handling the go-between duties between Trump and Jong Un (in part because the US diplomatic corps has been gutted), the South indicated that they’ll use this as an opportunity to make the case they shouldn’t have tariffs applied to the steel and aluminum exported to the US.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:40:05am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:44:19am

re: #16 jaunte

New conservative cruelty, same as the old conservative cruelty.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:49:26am

re: #20 Kragar

That article notes the fellow who founded the racist group Vanguard America was a former Marine recruiter.

As a former Navy recruiter, I am very sorry to hear that. (As much as the Marines hate to admit it, they are part of the Navy.)

Between the Christian theocrats in Colorado Springs and the freakin’ Nazis trying to take over the military, if they do, that’s really game over.

Forget Trump’s alleged corruption or even stacking courts with nutbars. That can be overcome. If the military and police are taken over by such people that’s the end of the road.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:50:00am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹

New conservative cruelty, same as the old conservative cruelty.

Only with new and improved cruelty added!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:50:12am

Has anyone else read David Brooks nonsense for the day? nytimes.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:50:29am

re: #26 ObserverArt

Only with new and improved cruelty added!

See our coupon in Saturday’s paper!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:52:54am

re: #27 Hecuba’s daughter

Has anyone else read David Brooks nonsense for the day? nytimes.com

Hey David Brooks: Counter-protest is not “shutting down” speech.

It is speech.

And Jordon Peterson is a theocrat, and a fool. We have enough wingnuts, we don’t need Canada’s. We took in Ted Cruz, isn’t that enough persecution?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:55:07am

On that Brooks article, what a pretentious pile of crap.

I would begin my stab at understanding by acknowledging that I grew up in one era and they grew up in another. I came of age in the 1980s. In that time, there was an assumption that though the roots of human society were deep in tribalism, over the past 3,000 years we have developed a system of liberal democracy that gloriously transcended it, that put reason, compassion and compromise atop violence and brute force.

Mr. Brooks, you do realise there were real nations three thousand years ago. (Sidebar, is Mr. Brooks a creationist?)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:57:12am

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

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I know this will sound pedantic but cutting through the barrel, gas tube and shroud is not destroying the gun. The “gun” is the lower receiver, the part with the serial number. That rifle can just be re-barreled and made good as new with three cheap mail order parts. Also, the gun will still shoot as is, it’ll just have a hell of a lot of muzzle blast and the charging handle will need to be cycled between shots.

Technically what she did there was film herself committing a felony violation of the NFA by making an illegal short barreled rifle.

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Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2018 • 11:57:25am

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

On that Brooks article, what a pretentious pile of crap.

Mr. Brooks, you do realise there were real nations three thousand years ago. (Sidebar, is Mr. Brooks a creationist?)

Imagine my surprise to find out Brooks is a yuppie spawn who takes the work of his parents for granted.

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:01:08pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

On that Brooks article, what a pretentious pile of crap.

Mr. Brooks, you do realise there were real nations three thousand years ago. (Sidebar, is Mr. Brooks a creationist?)

“Sadly” I’ve reached my limit on free NYT articles on this computer so Brooks is back behind the paywall.

I really don’t understand how people don’t understand that meeting speech with more speech is somehow bad. That’s really the entire point of civil society within a pluralistic liberal democracy. These protesters aren’t marching with pitchforks and torches… that was, um, those other guys.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:02:34pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

If you really want to render one inoperable, drop $30 on some binary quick set epoxy and inject it into the bolt and upper receiver

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whitebeach  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:03:44pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

On that Brooks article, what a pretentious pile of crap.

Mr. Brooks, you do realise there were real nations three thousand years ago. (Sidebar, is Mr. Brooks a creationist?)

Not only that, but only an idiot like Brooks could look at the current administration, current Congress, and current state of the entire right wing of our politics and talk with a straight face about how all this “gloriously transcended” tribalism and replaced it with “reason, compassion and compromise.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:03:50pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

David Brooks is dedicated to the idea that David Brooks wasn’t part of the collapse of liberal democracy—starting in the 80s—when he and the other Reaganauts decided on the tribalist position that everyone to the left of them was fundamentally unserious and child-like, and could be a priori dismissed.

A castle he defends by continuing to insist that everyone to the left of him is fundamentally unserious and child-like, and can be a priori dismissed. And if reality—like, say, how the 2003 Iraq War played out, and David Brooks steaming hot takes on that war, and the way the hysterical hippies turned out to be correct—does not support that position, then by God David Brooks will re-write reality.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:04:10pm

re: #33 KGxvi

“Sadly” I’ve reached my limit on free NYT articles on this computer so Brooks is back behind the paywall.

You can delete your NYT website information to reset the counter. On Safari it’s Safari -> Preferences -> Privacy -> Click on “Manage Website Data” -> Type “NYT” into the search field -> Highlight both items that appear and click “Remove”

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:04:17pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹

Plenty of them are saying she broke the law by not destroying the upper and lower receivers and making a sawed-off gun (or that she’s a woman and a man could have done it faster and this is why equal pay is BS)

a) The upper receiver is not required to be destroyed. (These would be the “magazine not clip” pedants.)
b) They don’t know what she did with the rest of the gun after the video.
c) There is 27% of any population which cannot be reached.
d) Unfortunately, gun stunts by Democrats don’t work out well in adverts. Jason Kander in Missouri against Roy Blunt comes to mind, where he assembled an AR-15 blindfolded in his advert.

b)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:05:05pm

Troll fail against Stormy Daniels (behind the hide bar, a tweet from her with a screen capture for posterity of the troll’s tweet)

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:06:01pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

You can delete your NYT website information to reset the counter. On Safari it’s Safari -> Preferences -> Privacy -> Click on “Manage Website Data” -> Type “NYT” into the search field -> Highlight both items that appear and click “Remove”

I could do that… but then I might be exposed to David Brooks. It’s a catch-22.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:07:05pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

I know this will sound pedantic but cutting through the barrel, gas tube and shroud is not destroying the gun. The “gun” is the lower receiver, the part with the serial number. That rifle can just be re-barreled and made good as new with three cheap mail order parts. Also, the gun will still shoot as is, it’ll just have a hell of a lot of muzzle blast and the charging handle will need to be cycled between shots.

Technically what she did there was film herself committing a felony violation of the NFA by making an illegal short barreled rifle.

Only if that’s where she stopped. (If you really want to be a pedant about it, it was an illegal weapon between cutting through the barrel and destroying the other parts of the gun.)

That’s why I called it out as a pedant fail. They don’t know what she did with it. Heck, there might have been a cop off camera to take the remains of the weapon.

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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:07:22pm

FYI: I am not the former Obama official now in Brussels

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:07:50pm

re: #21 Kragar

There it is. The announcement lasted less than 24 hours. See a pattern? Trump has also walked back pronouncements on DACA, ACA stabilization, guns, tariffs. Total chaos.

different opinion - this in and of itself is not chaos

if they have any MO, any plan, if they are after anything it’s initial headlines from the announcements.
they count on most people forgetting, losing interest, not paying attention etc

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:09:20pm

re: #42 gocart mozart

Jesus fucking Christ on a flaming unicycle… ARE ALL POLITICIANS THIS FUCKING STUPID?

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:09:22pm

re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

A fire captain says a gunman has taken hostages at a large veterans home in California. Police closed access to the home after a man with a gun was reported on the grounds.

arm the doctors
arm the nurses
the aids
arm the other residents, heck they are trained veterans!!!

too soon?

this is madness

does every fucking thing have to be settled with a gun?

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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:09:38pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

Curious… why’d you hide that?
I posted it last night and didn’t. Am I using bad NSFW form?

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:12:36pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

see: re: #14 Anymouse 🌹 answer b)

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whitebeach  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:13:18pm

I haven’t looked downstairs, and probably somebody has already made the point, but does anyone remember how the chicken wings howled when Obama suggested that he would be willing to at least talk with the prime minister of Iran? What a horror, right, what a surrender monkey? And then when he made an actual agreement with them and the world’s major nations that has stopped Iran’s nuke program to this day, it was TREASON!!!

Truly different strokes for different folks, I guess.

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Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:13:38pm

To me, the chaos in this whole situation is that it’s Seoul that’s effectively orchestrating these talks, if only to try to walk both sides back from armed confrontation. Because we have no ambassador to South Korea, and apparently because Tillerson’s balls reside in a jar in the White House walk-in fridge, Seoul feels it must actively take a part in finding a diplomatic solution to the matter rather than watching the back-and-forth dick-wagging turn into a shooting war.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:13:39pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

Only if that’s where she stopped. (If you really want to be a pedant about it, it was an illegal weapon between cutting through the barrel and destroying the other parts of the gun.)

That’s how the ATF views it. She created an illegal weapon, it doesn’t matter how long it existed in that form. The ATF is very pedantic about this kind of thing.

That’s why I called it out as a pedant fail. They don’t know what she did with it. Heck, there might have been a cop off camera to take the remains of the weapon.

It doesn’t matter what she did with it afterwards. She filmed herself committing a felony and posted it on Facebook for the entire world to see. Not smart. That she wants people to send her to Congress and write legislation just adds a layer of poetic irony to the situation.

I mean, I sympathize with where she’s coming from, but that was extremely not smart. It’s a textbook example of why it would serve liberals well not to be ignorant about guns. This isn’t merely mixing up a clip with a magazine, it’s flirting with a ten year prison sentence.

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:13:57pm

re: #33 KGxvi

“Sadly” I’ve reached my limit on free NYT articles on this computer so Brooks is back behind the paywall.

I really don’t understand how people don’t understand that meeting speech with more speech is somehow bad. That’s really the entire point of civil society within a pluralistic liberal democracy. These protesters aren’t marching with pitchforks and torches… that was, um, those other guys.

its not fair if there’s more of you and you shout them down
its like a rich guy whose can spend more free speech dollars than you

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:14:14pm

re: #44 KGxvi

Jesus fucking Christ on a flaming unicycle… ARE ALL POLITICIANS THIS FUCKING STUPID?

Only conservative ones.

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:15:17pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

You can delete your NYT website information to reset the counter. On Safari it’s Safari -> Preferences -> Privacy -> Click on “Manage Website Data” -> Type “NYT” into the search field -> Highlight both items that appear and click “Remove”

chrome incognito mode works too

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:15:29pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

On that Brooks article, what a pretentious pile of crap.

Mr. Brooks, you do realise there were real nations three thousand years ago. (Sidebar, is Mr. Brooks a creationist?)

Sidebar answer: Mr. Brooks is an idiot.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:16:33pm

Major newspaper editorial staff are consistently a window into how there’s no meritocracy.

Not just the counter-intuitive shitwits themselves, but the sheer mass of “intelligent” people who get caught up in pseudo-intellectual feints and bottom-barrel cleverness, overlooking the shitty base assumptions, shallowness of analysis and reference, and the frequency with which these folks backwards revise their own thinking while denying inconsistency or hypocrisy.

College-freshman rhetoric is marketable and consumable, and the buyers are people who should fucking know better because they have the money and position such that they could afford to learn how to think rigorously.

(A phenomenon of which David Brooks is the chatelaine.)

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:17:37pm

re: #32 Targetpractice

Imagine my surprise to find out Brooks is a yuppie spawn who takes the work of his parents for granted.

Brooks is always the reasonable centrist fighting the ravening leftist strawmen in his imagination.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:18:08pm

re: #47 dangerman

see: answer b)

It’s not a good answer. The ATF has gotten incredibly hard nosed and unforgiving over the years because they’ve had to deal with so many people who claimed things like “that flagrantly illegal weapon doesn’t exist anymore.” They don’t care.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:18:31pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

“Accidental discharge of a saw.”

Intent is required to complete a crime, even with ATF. If the intent was to create an illegal weapon, that would be one thing. If the intent is to destroy a weapon, tougher case for the ATF to make (plus they are understaffed thanks to GOP intransigence so I doubt they have time to deal with political stunts).

But yeah, as I noted above it is not good for Democrats to involve themselves in gun adverts (such as Jason Kander). Just focus on the issue of killing machines and being the real “pro-life” party.

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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:20:02pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

How much do I need to learn about guns? Mind you, I really don’t want to.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:20:14pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

I’m not surprised. Ammosexuals get more mad st the destruction of guns than life.

“We don’t want any babies to die but don’t you dare take our fucking assault weapons away you commie bastards!”

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:21:07pm

re: #55 The Ghost of a Flea

(A phenomenon of which David Brooks is the chatelaine.)

i learned a word. my day is complete
though im not sure i’ll ever get to use it in context

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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:23:23pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:23:40pm

Oh my….

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:23:53pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

Only conservative ones.

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There’s a lot of stupidity to go around, apparently.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:24:40pm

re: #64 KGxvi

There’s a lot of stupidity to go around, apparently.

Too. Damn. Much.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:24:54pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:25:02pm

Shooter at the Yountville Veterans Home has now taken hostages.

sfgate.com

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whitebeach  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:25:37pm

re: #61 dangerman

i learned a word. my day is complete
though im not sure i’ll ever get to use it in context

It’s easy: “I exited the information superhighway and turned into a pleasant little chatelaine.”

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:26:14pm

re: #63 Ace-o-aces

Ok, I’ll bite. How does making the cast more diverse hurt the story? It’s been a very long time since I’ve read the book (and might need to dig up a copy because I loved it as a kid), but I don’t remember the race of the characters being central to the plot…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:26:34pm

re: #59 JordanRules

How much do I need to learn about guns? Mind you, I really don’t want to.

If you’re going to own or use one, just the basics of safety and operation. If you’re going to modify them, quite a bit. If you want people to send you to Congress to legislate them, quite a bit.

If you’re not going to do those things then you’re good.

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:26:46pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

It’s not a good answer. The ATF has gotten incredibly hard nosed and unforgiving over the years because they’ve had to deal with so many people who claimed things like “that flagrantly illegal weapon doesn’t exist anymore.” They don’t care.

look, im just standing here waiting for a bus…

i dont know the woman or her instincts or whether she wants to be a martyr

she might be willing to say “you want to go after me for this - which it was clear what i was trying to do, while we all know stoneman, birmingham, and today’s napa county veterans home are going on out there - well have at it.

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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:27:01pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:27:08pm

re: #53 dangerman

chrome incognito mode works too

Not all the time. I try to do that, but it will keep count too. I found out with the Times.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:27:14pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹

Shooter at the Yountville Veterans Home has now taken hostages.

sfgate.com

So, arm the veterans?

I know it’s nothing to joke about, but is the shooter really angry and taking vets hostage or did they mistake the place for French Laundry and are pissed they couldn’t get a reservation?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:28:44pm

re: #74 lawhawk

Already got a moron on FB saying the shooter must be a Liberal because he is going after Vets.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:29:34pm

Someone stop me. I can’t help myself from eating and eating and eating and eating the apple strudel.

All I wanted to do was use up the flaky pastry dough in the freezer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:30:17pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Already got a moron on FB saying the shooter must be a Liberal because he is going after Vets.

#notallvetsareGOP

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:31:18pm

re: #69 KGxvi

Ok, I’ll bite. How does making the cast more diverse hurt the story? It’s been a very long time since I’ve read the book (and might need to dig up a copy because I loved it as a kid), but I don’t remember the race of the characters being central to the plot…

Look, we gave black people the right to sit in the front of the bus. Sometimes they can even vote. We even let them get on TV as long as it’s playing some gladiatorial sport and they shut up and don’t talk a lot and stand for the national anthem. It’s a bit much to expect us to have movies about them. Black people with interesting stories and aspirations? Who’s going to believe that?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:31:29pm

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

Someone stop me. I can’t help myself from eating and eating and eating and eating the apple strudel.

All I wanted to do was use up the flaky pastry dough in the freezer.

You’re good.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:31:31pm
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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:31:31pm

re: #72 JordanRules

BREAKING: @FLGovScott just signed sign a bill into law that allocates $400 Million for more police in schools and allows teachers to carry guns. Make no mistake, this will make schools unsafe for Black and Brown students.

YOU make no mistake - they “found” that money in mere weeks. it wasnt that hard. What would $400M have done for actual education?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:31:49pm

The single best tell of the stupid that infects Brooks and his team of David Brooks impersonators is the way that aestheticism is substituted for morality, because moral reflections required self-inquiry, while politeness and good conduct are superficial externalities.

Hence the recurring theme of “the liberals were rude, therefore they have no point, therefore they are wrong and immoral,” but also the “Donald Trump is crass, and therefore bad, but we will not reflect on the homologous ideological features between Trump and less gauche conservatives” so common among the never-Trumpers.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:32:07pm

re: #61 dangerman

i learned a word. my day is complete
though im not sure i’ll ever get to use it in context

KD Laing did a song with it in the title!

k.d. lang - Miss Chatelaine (Video)

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:32:12pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Not all the time. I try to do that, but it will keep count too. I found out with the Times.

i havent had that problem
(not arguing, maybe im just lucky somehow)
some setting?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:32:48pm

Remember “no drama Obama?”

Shulkin cancels meetings with Trump appointees amid VA strife: report (The Hill)

I’m sure this will make my care easier:

Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin has reportedly cut off contact with top agency officials and now operates out of an office with an armed guard at the door amid ongoing tensions with top staff.

Shulkin, a VA holdover from the Obama administration promoted to the head job by President Trump, has canceled morning meetings with top Trump appointees in the department and hasn’t spoken to his public affairs chief in weeks. He fears that his aides in the nation’s second-largest bureaucracy, behind only the Pentagon, are actively lobbying the White House for his ouster, The Washington Post reports.

(more)

Shulkin was elevated from the VA’s bureaucracy by Trump to lead the VA.

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Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:33:37pm

You can practically smell the desperation:

Mueller’s response should be “I’ll decide when this matter is closed. And if your client doesn’t want to do this voluntarily, we can do it in front of a grand jury under subpoena. Or in the docket at his trial. Either way works for me.”

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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:33:56pm

re: #81 dangerman

So fast! They found it so damn fast.
This along with the money Chicago has for their new police academy while closing schools left and right. It’s disgusting!

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:34:06pm

re: #68 whitebeach

It’s easy: “I exited the information superhighway and turned into a pleasant little chatelaine.”

Easier:

k d lang Miss Chatelaine

Similarly pleasant.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:35:58pm

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

The single best tell of the stupid that infects Brooks and his team of David Brooks impersonators is the way that aestheticism is substituted for morality, because moral reflections required self-inquiry, while politeness and good conduct are superficial externalities.

Hence the recurring theme of “the liberals were rude, therefore they have no point, therefore they are wrong and immoral,” but also the “Donald Trump is crass, and therefore bad, but we will not reflect on the homologous ideological features between Trump and less gauche conservatives” so common among the never-Trumpers.

The magic balance fairy is holding a horcrux of Mr. Brooks.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:36:01pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

If you’re going to own or use one, just the basics of safety and operation. If you’re going to modify them, quite a bit. If you want people to send you to Congress to legislate them, quite a bit.

If you’re not going to do those things then you’re good.

Nope. Don’t buy that. That gun pedantry canard is part of the problem, and an unbelievable crock of shit.

In an ideal world, we ask our political representatives to be open to good ideas, represent the wishes of their district, and listen to multiple points of view before making a decision in the public interest. We don’t ask that they be experts in every field they make decisions on. We don’t ask that they be doctors to make health care decisions, just that they listen to doctors. We don’t ask that they be economists, just that they understand the basics and that they listen to smart people. Only with sacred, precious guns do we insist on exacting terminology and complete precision of language, thought and deed from everyone.

Fuck that. They’re just guns. They’re not special, or more important than people. Americans have worshipped them long enough.

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:37:36pm

re: #83 makeitstop

KD Laing did a song with it in the title!

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Video

Beat me by a mile, or a kilometer. (She’s Canadian.)

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:38:20pm

re: #63 Ace-o-aces

Dear National Review Forum,

I am a college student in a small mid-western town and must admit I thought the wild stories in your publication were nothing more than make-believe.

Until one day, when I was reading my well-worn copy of Atlas Shrugged, when there was a knock on my door…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:38:35pm

I have now had the interesting experience of a YouTube ad by a Polish nationalist group, denying that Poles facilitated Nazi war crimes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:40:08pm
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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:40:10pm

re: #78 Renaissance_Man

Look, we gave black people the right to sit in the front of the bus. Sometimes they can even vote. We even let them get on TV as long as it’s playing some gladiatorial sport and they shut up and don’t talk a lot and stand for the national anthem. It’s a bit much to expect us to have movies about them. Black people with interesting stories and aspirations? Who’s going to believe that?

It’s not even that. It’s the idea that changing something about a character that doesn’t really alter the character is somehow disastrous. We saw this with the most recent Spiderman movie when people freaked out that Mary Jane is going to end up not being white.

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:41:54pm

re: #90 Renaissance_Man

Nope. Don’t buy that. That gun pedantry canard is part of the problem, and an unbelievable crock of shit.

In an ideal world, we ask our political representatives to be open to good ideas, represent the wishes of their district, and listen to multiple points of view before making a decision in the public interest. We don’t ask that they be experts in every field they make decisions on. We don’t ask that they be doctors to make health care decisions, just that they listen to doctors. We don’t ask that they be economists, just that they understand the basics and that they listen to smart people. Only with sacred, precious guns do we insist on exacting terminology and complete precision of language, thought and deed from everyone.

Fuck that. They’re just guns. They’re not special, or more important than people. Americans have worshipped them long enough.

Quoted because my only regret is that I have but one upding to give this post.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:42:10pm

re: #93 The Ghost of a Flea

I have now had the interesting experience of a YouTube ad by a Polish nationalist group, denying that Poles facilitated Nazi war crimes.

Some did, the overwhelming majority did not.

You could make the same argument about the USA. Americans facilitated Nazi war crimes. Some did, the overwhelming majority did not.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:44:21pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Beat me by a mile, or a kilometer. (She’s Canadian.)

Since everyone is on about pedantry…that would be 1.609+ kilometers to the mile.

But I bet you already know that.

(Oops…typed to fast. Clarified.)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:45:22pm

re: #78 Renaissance_Man

Look, we gave black people the right to sit in the front of the bus. Sometimes they can even vote. We even let them get on TV as long as it’s playing some gladiatorial sport and they shut up and don’t talk a lot and stand for the national anthem. It’s a bit much to expect us to have movies about them. Black people with interesting stories and aspirations? Who’s going to believe that?

Lots of people, apparently. :p

boxofficemojo.com

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:45:23pm

I have this on at least 3 CDs. It just keeps getting better.

Les McCann & Eddie Harris Compared To What

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:45:32pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

Some did, the overwhelming majority did not.

You could make the same argument about the USA. Americans facilitated Nazi war crimes. Some did, the overwhelming majority did not.

Yeah, but the ad isn’t happening in a vacuum of equal moral judgement. Right now, there’s an actual law that punishes Poles for talking about those events in WW2, and the reactionary government is getting awful dogwhistle-y about globalism and foreigner infiltrators.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:46:04pm

re: #95 KGxvi

It’s not even that. It’s the idea that changing something about a character that doesn’t really alter the character is somehow disastrous. We saw this with the most recent Spiderman movie when people freaked out that Mary Jane is going to end up not being white.

Don’t you ever tell me that Santa is not white…an’ Jesus too. Don’t do it!

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:47:04pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

Since everyone is on about pedantry…that would be 1.609+ miles.

But I bet you already know that.

You got something backwards. I only know because I did [‘ran’] a 5K a few weeks ago.

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:47:05pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

Since everyone is on about pedantry…that would be 1.609+ miles.

But I bet you already know that.

archer metric system

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:48:40pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Beat me by a mile, or a kilometer. (She’s Canadian.)

Your live version is great.

I went for the original because she’s just so glammed out in it.

KD is one of my fave singers ever. She could, as they say, sing the phone book and I’d buy it. Best pipes in the business.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:48:46pm

The memes write themselves.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:50:32pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

You got something backwards. I only know because I did [‘ran’] a 5K a few weeks ago.

I fixered it up…typed that too fast.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:50:34pm

I’m so tired of gunhumping morons. TIRED. I think that Congress should be forced to see autopsy photos and results from every goddamed school shooting.ALL of them. Blown up to life size. God knows there’s no shortage of victims. If their side can show their infamous aborted fetuses in their idiotic protests, then maybe it’s fucking time to get right back in their faces. I’m sick of nice. Sick.of. it.

I hope that ER doctors and nurses, first responders, and health care professionals of all kinds will join the young people trying to wake people up. Veterans groups might be of help too.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:51:17pm

re: #106 Scottish Dragon

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:52:44pm

re: #109 A dark and stormy covfefe

Aye, that he do, laddy!

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:52:57pm

re: #108 A Mom Anon

I’m so tired of gunhumping morons. TIRED. I think that Congress should be forced to see autopsy photos and results from every goddamed school shooting.ALL of them. Blown up to life size. God knows there’s no shortage of victims. If their side can show their infamous aborted fetuses in their idiotic protests, then maybe it’s fucking time to get right back in their faces. I’m sick of nice. Sick.of. it.

I hope that ER doctors and nurses, first responders, and health care professionals of all kinds will join the young people trying to wake people up. Veterans groups might be of help too.

I made a similar comment a week or so ago. If abortion protesters can get away with scaring people with images, why not gun protesters.

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:53:05pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

Since everyone is on about pedantry…that would be 1.609+ miles.

But I bet you already know that.

um, erm
???

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:53:16pm

re: #101 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah, but the ad isn’t happening in a vacuum of equal moral judgement. Right now, there’s an actual law that punishes Poles for talking about those events in WW2, and the reactionary government is getting awful dogwhistle-y about globalism and foreigner infiltrators.

The “law” to which you refer notes that Poland reserves the right to sue people for the term “Polish Death Camps” when they were “German Death Camps” on Polish-occupied territory.

They view that as slander. No Polish law prohibits Poles from talking about those events. Amazingly, no one called the cops on me to have me deported from Poland when I asked about that in a museum in Gdansk. They freely admitted some people volunteered to work at Stutthof Concentration Camp in Gdansk, but most were slave labour.

In the meantime, the Sejm passed a bill:

thenews.pl (Radio Poland)

Poland’s lawmakers have voted to establish March 24 as a new national memorial day to honour Poles who saved Jews during World War II.

(more on the bill at Radio Poland)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:53:25pm

re: #90 Renaissance_Man

Nope. Don’t buy that. That gun pedantry canard is part of the problem, and an unbelievable crock of shit.

In an ideal world, we ask our political representatives to be open to good ideas, represent the wishes of their district, and listen to multiple points of view before making a decision in the public interest. We don’t ask that they be experts in every field they make decisions on. We don’t ask that they be doctors to make health care decisions, just that they listen to doctors. We don’t ask that they be economists, just that they understand the basics and that they listen to smart people. Only with sacred, precious guns do we insist on exacting terminology and complete precision of language, thought and deed from everyone.

Fuck that. They’re just guns. They’re not special, or more important than people. Americans have worshipped them long enough.

The death of expertise is to a large degree responsible for how we got Trump. People don’t have to be expert gunsmiths to write gun legislation but they should know enough to avoid committing felonies when trying to make their point. We do want people who understand the minutia of healthcare policy writing national healthcare laws. I do miss having an actual economic wonk like Barney Frank sit on the Banking Subcommittee. I do miss having an actual economist run the Federal Reserve Bank. I do miss having a nuclear physicist run the DOE instead of Rick Perry. I do miss having an Education Secretary with a terminal degree and a background in public school administration like Arne Duncan instead of Betsy Devos.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:56:30pm
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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:56:50pm

Dude’s probably spilling his guts right now.

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Citizen K  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:58:55pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The death of expertise is to a large degree responsible for how we got Trump. People don’t have to be expert gunsmiths to write gun legislation but they should know enough to avoid committing felonies when trying to make their point. We do want people who understand the minutia of healthcare policy writing national healthcare laws. I do miss having an actual economic wonk like Barney Frank sit on the Banking Subcommittee. I do miss having an actual economist run the Federal Reserve Bank. I do miss having a nuclear physicist run the DOE instead of Rick Perry. I do miss having an Education Secretary with a terminal degree and a background in public school administration like Arne Duncan instead of Betsy Devos.

I’m not sure it’s necessarily the “death’ of expertise as it is the demonization of it. Conservatives have successfully ingrained the anti-intellectualism in the political sphere to where anyone who actually knows their shit is treated as the worst tyrant ever, and someone who has zero expertise is treated as the ‘fresh new perspective that we need’ precisely because they don’t know shit. Actual fucking knowledge is treated as a detriment at best, and a sin at worst.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:59:12pm

re: #108 A Mom Anon

If their side can show their infamous aborted fetuses in their idiotic protests, then maybe it’s fucking time to get right back in their faces.

Politicians and NRA leaders and their talking heads should all be shown a little of that gunplay ultra violence…until they are changed.

A+ClockWork+Orange,+Ultra+Violence

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A Mom Anon  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:59:37pm

re: #111 ObserverArt
Here’s what I know from experience:
You cannot kill bullying with kindness. It does not work because you’re not dealing with people who see kindness and Grace as assets. It’s seen as weak. What does work? The same amount of force plus a little more. That applies to physical and strategic moves. Fuck them and their feelings. With a rusty chainsaw. It requires strength, because as we see, bullies and assholes don’t like being challenged at ALL. But it works. The students in Parkland aren’t taking any shit. Maybe the rest of us can learn from that. Fuck them.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 12:59:56pm

re: #112 dangerman

um, erm
???

I fixed…I fixed…I fixed it. Sheesh!

(You’re late…)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:00:03pm

Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio noted in a spirited attack on the banking bill going through the Senate that Equifax got a provision inserted into it that would prohibit anyone from suing them over their massive data breach.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts notes the bill can’t pass without the support of the Democrats that are supporting it now, and suggests folk with Democratic senators should be calling them to say “no.”

wonkette.com

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:02:10pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

I fixed…I fixed…I fixed it. Sheesh!

(You’re late…)

i kept it vague….

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:03:05pm

re: #115 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Is Craig actually running for an office…because he says a lot of really stupid shit?

Oh wait…he’s a Republican. They run on stupid shit.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:03:28pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The death of expertise is to a large degree responsible for how we got Trump. People don’t have to be expert gunsmiths to write gun legislation but they should know enough to avoid committing felonies when trying to make their point. We do want people who understand the minutia of healthcare policy writing national healthcare laws. I do miss having an actual economic wonk like Barney Frank sit on the Banking Subcommittee. I do miss having an actual economist run the Federal Reserve Bank. I do miss having a nuclear physicist run the DOE instead of Rick Perry. I do miss having an Education Secretary with a terminal degree and a background in public school administration like Arne Duncan instead of Betsy Devos.

The denigration of expertise and the wilful glorification of ignorance is what got us where we are, this is true. And having experts in their field is crucial to good governance, also true.

But I think it is unnecessary to dismiss a fairly lame political stunt such as this on the grounds of gun pedantry. The stunt is obviously not designed to show her expertise in the field of guns, unlike, say, that guy who made an ad of him assembling one blindfolded. Whether you agree with the idea of destroying the guns or not, Advanced Gun Knowledge is not the core theme of this stunt, nor is it really central to the discussion. I don’t know, nor do I really care, if ATF is in fact so pedantic about the nature of barrels and lower receivers that you can be imprisoned for taking a gun apart in the incorrect order. Making the argument about that instead of the point the video is really about is, however, deflection by pedantry. Perhaps that’s not your intention, but it’s certainly the intention of the rest of the mooks posting on that thread.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:03:48pm
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Nyet  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:04:53pm

OK, there is some justice in this world. #PharmaBro

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:04:55pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The death of expertise is to a large degree responsible for how we got Trump. People don’t have to be expert gunsmiths to write gun legislation but they should know enough to avoid committing felonies when trying to make their point. We do want people who understand the minutia of healthcare policy writing national healthcare laws. I do miss having an actual economic wonk like Barney Frank sit on the Banking Subcommittee. I do miss having an actual economist run the Federal Reserve Bank. I do miss having a nuclear physicist run the DOE instead of Rick Perry. I do miss having an Education Secretary with a terminal degree and a background in public school administration like Arne Duncan instead of Betsy Devos.

They only way the death of expertise lead to Trump was people forgot how to be human beings. It wasn’t the experts that lead to Trump. It was the clueless deciding a fellow idiot could be president.

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Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:05:52pm

re: #125 Kragar

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That’s largely because he can bomb the hell out of Pyongyang if he doesn’t like what he hears.

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VegasGolfer  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:05:59pm

Anybody have video of pharma bro crying like a bitch??

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:06:35pm

The evil-but-not-an-idiot Kelly attempting to save his boss from looking like a fool for the 19,035th time:

The E.P.A Chief Wanted a Climate Science Debate. Trump’s Chief of Staff Stopped Him.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:07:51pm
132
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:09:22pm

right now:

YouTube

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jeffreyw  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:10:13pm

re: #129 VegasGolfer

Anybody have video of pharma bro crying like a bitch??

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:10:52pm

On the girl who was killed by “accidental” gunfire in an Alabama school the other day, it would appear the police have a person in custody over that now.

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Interesting Times  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:12:05pm

re: #126 Nyet

I’ve been meaning to ask - I believe you were opposed to the TPP mainly because of its onerous copyright provisions based on the US model. It seems they’ve been relaxed by the remaining countries:

The revised deal eliminates some requirements in the original TPP demanded by U.S. negotiators, including rules to ramp up intellectual property protection of pharmaceuticals.

Do you think the revised deal resolves the concerns you had with the first one?

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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:12:52pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:13:26pm

re: #132 dangerman

right now:

[Embedded content]

Video

Been listening to this album a lot…a good representative song:

Mother Says - Joe Walsh

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:13:44pm

not a very smart lawyer is he?

Cohen Used Trump Organization Email Account to Wire the Money

dont use your business email accounts, bank accounts, phone, computer, etc, for personal use

especially don’t use your business accounts, phone, computer, etc, to commit crimes

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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:13:48pm
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Belafon  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:13:59pm

re: #135 Interesting Times

Another change to the TPP is it left out the worker protections the Obama administration had included.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:14:24pm

re: #126 Nyet

OK, there is some justice in this world. #PharmaBro

From June 30th of last year:

Shkreli said prosecutors floated him a deal, but he turned it down because he wanted his time in court.

Oops.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:14:29pm

re: #136 JordanRules

Upding for where it game from.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:15:23pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

From June 30th of last year:

Oops.

He really should have paid more attention to how many people wanted to punch him.

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Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:16:46pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

From June 30th of last year:

Oops.

Like most rich assholes, he expected his lawyer to get him off without so much as a mark on his record.

Now he’s gonna spend the next 7 years processing laundry for pocket change.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:17:51pm

re: #135 Interesting Times

Yes, I’m only bothered by the copyright BS. If it’s gone, “whatever” to the rest :)

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Interesting Times  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:18:39pm

re: #140 Belafon

Another change to the TPP is it left out the worker protections the Obama administration had included.

Then again, maybe not:

The original TPP, which is currently under renegotiation after U.S. President Donald Trump pulled America out of the deal, included strong provisions that demanded all member countries eliminate child and forced labour, adopt and maintain laws and practices governing “acceptable conditions of work,” and uphold the right to collective bargaining.

But some countries, including Malaysia and Vietnam, sought to opt out of such provisions during the talks, something Canada felt was untenable.

Those countries have now come back onside, International Trade Minister François-Philippe Champagne said, and have agreed to the terms of the original TPP.

“We got a better deal for Canada, we were also able to enhance the progressive elements — as the prime minister says you don’t do trade in the 21st century like you did before,” he said.

All countries have agreed now to implement regulations around minimum wages, hours of work and occupational safety and health, for example, something the original TPP called for.

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:18:40pm

re: #137 ObserverArt

Been listening to this album a lot…a good representative song:

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you gotta wait 13 minutes

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:19:54pm

re: #146 Interesting Times

Then again, maybe not:

Cool. I’m glad I they changed their minds.

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:20:20pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

Like most rich assholes, he expected his lawyer to get him off without so much as a mark on his record.

Now he’s gonna spend the next 7 years processing laundry for pocket change.

and he lost the record too

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:20:30pm

re: #139 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Ol’ Joe B is one million times the man Trump wished he was.

That means Trump is not even a man. As everyone says…he’s a man baby, but even newborn babies have more heart and feeling for others than Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:20:36pm

I don’t know where our erstwhile host is, but I think he might like this. It’s quite good.

Wupatki / SENRI KAWAGUCHI TRIANGLE LIVE / JAZZ JAPAN AWARD 2017

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:20:45pm

sacbee.com

The Sacramento Bee is now reporting “at least three” hostages are being held at the Yountville Veterans Home in California (the largest in the USA).

By the way, why do news outlets go with “active shooter.” Are there inactive shooters?

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:21:18pm

And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Martin Shkreli, King of Trolls.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:22:08pm

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

Senri Kawaguchi is the drummer, btw.

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:22:25pm

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

On the girl who was killed by “accidental” gunfire in an Alabama school the other day, it would appear the police have a person in custody over that now.

[Embedded content]

There was a small town (NM) school with a social media threat that brought out law enforcement from all over, and for some reason that they did not see fit to disclose, and maybe it’s not related, the principal is now on leave.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:22:57pm

re: #142 Belafon

Upding for where it game from.

I wish George W would come out and unload on Trump instead of dancing around it. He always seems reluctant. I wonder if a bit of his own messy past prevents him.

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VegasGolfer  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:23:48pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

Is that code for prison rape?

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Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:24:19pm

re: #157 VegasGolfer

Is that code for prison rape?

No, I don’t joke about that.

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darthstar  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:25:26pm

Fuck…another active shooter. This one at the Veterans’ Home in Yountville.

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darthstar  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:25:45pm
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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:25:48pm

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

I don’t know where our erstwhile host is, but I think he might like this. It’s quite good.

[Embedded content]

Video

i love when live musicians smile like they are just having a ball

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VegasGolfer  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:27:20pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

Yep. Prison is no fun.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:27:24pm

re: #161 dangerman

i love when live musicians smile like they are just having a ball

Yes, indeed; she’s clearly doing what she loves. Like that saying goes, “Find a job doing something you love and you’ll never have to work a day in your life.”

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:27:51pm

Finished Altered Carbon today. Still can recommend. More for the cinematic stuff than the story itself, but still.

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gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:27:58pm
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Kragar  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:28:19pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

“There’s a spider on your head.”

“What?”

“There’s a spider on yo head.”

“Look, I’m sorry, I’m not up on all this jive talkin’, home boy lingo, what’s that supposed to mean? “There’s a spider on your head”?”

“It means there’s a spider on your motherfuckin’ head, man!”

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:29:18pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

Only conservative ones.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:30:07pm

re: #156 ObserverArt

I wish George W would come out and unload on Trump instead of dancing around it. He always seems reluctant. I wonder if a bit of his own messy past prevents him.

He is still under the Ronald Reagan rule that it is unseemly to speak ill of another Republican. He won’t do it.

Moreover, it is somewhat of a tradition in the country for former Presidents not to criticise sitting presidents.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:30:55pm

re: #167 MsJ

I have no updings to give you on Twitter, though I can here.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:31:58pm

re: #164 Nyet

Finished Altered Carbon today. Still can recommend. More for the cinematic stuff than the story itself, but still.

I’m reading the book. I haven’t read any hard boiled detective books before, so I’m not entirely sure how to compare them, but the author is doing a decent job of making the tech seem both a normal part of society, and at the same time showing how the dark side of its use would have evolved as well.

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JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:32:55pm

re: #165 gocart mozart

Well done!

172
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:35:28pm

re: #166 Kragar

“There’s a spider on your head.”

“What?”

“There’s a spider on yo head.”

“Look, I’m sorry, I’m not up on all this jive talkin’, home boy lingo, what’s that supposed to mean? “There’s a spider on your head”?”

“It means there’s a spider on your motherfuckin’ head, man!”

i remember back in the 70’s(?) explaining to adults that “bad” was actually good

173
makeitstop  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:36:51pm
174
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:40:13pm

My regional paper still likes pushing “feel good” Donald Trump stories.

The year of feel good stories about Donald Trump:
bhmgnews.com

Today for example:

Trump Organization Says It Donated $151,470 in profits to US Treasury (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

The Trump Organization has donated $151,470 in foreign government profits at its hotels and similar businesses last year to the U.S. Treasury, an executive said in a statement Friday.

George Sorial, the executive vice president and chief compliance counsel, said the Feb. 22 voluntary donation fulfills the company’s pledge to donate profits from foreign government patronage while Donald Trump is president.

(more)

175
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:40:28pm

Dear Dana Loesch: How Do You Sleep at Night? (The daily beast)

An open letter to the NRA’s top apologist: You are contemptible. You don’t scare me, and neither do your sick fans.

176
Nyet  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:41:26pm

re: #170 Belafon

The hotel AI aka Poe is so great in the series.

177
Belafon  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:42:44pm

re: #176 Nyet

The hotel AI aka Poe is so great in the series.

I’ve only gotten through to of the scenes involved the hotel, and I kind of hope intelligent hotels become a thing.

178
Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:44:03pm

WTF?!

A butcher surrendered to police and is being held on attempted murder charges after admitting to police he chopped the right hand of his 18-year-old son for watching pornography on his smartphone, the Hindustan Times in India reports.

Mohammad Qayyum Qureshi, 45, caught his son “red-handed” watching a porn film. The father tried to take the phone, but the son resisted and bit the hand of his father.

The son fled their home, but returned home late in the night.

Police said that the next morning, “both father and son quarreled on the same issue again.”

“In a fit of anger, Qayuum picked up the butcher’s knife and chopped off Khalid’s right hand,” police continued. “Hearing the son’s screams, the other family members came and immediately took him to a nearby hospital, where the doctors said the hand was 90% severed and the chances of restoring it are bleak.”

179
gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:44:36pm
180
ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:45:02pm

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

He is still under the Ronald Reagan rule that it is unseemly to speak ill of another Republican. He won’t do it.

Moreover, it is somewhat of a tradition in the country for former Presidents not to criticise sitting presidents.

That would be fine if we had a traditional president instead of the unseemly one stinkin’ up the office.

These times call for extraordinary measures. We have a country to save. Break with tradition before we don’t have any.

181
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:45:18pm

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

My regional paper still likes pushing “feel good” Donald Trump stories.

The year of feel good stories about Donald Trump:
bhmgnews.com

Today for example:

Trump Organization Says It Donated $151,470 in profits to US Treasury (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

(more)

if 157k is the profits at “its hotels and similar businesses last year”, then he’s a miserable businessman

182
Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:46:51pm

re: #181 dangerman

if 157k is the profits at “its hotels and similar businesses last year”, then he’s a miserable businessman

Lot of asterisks in the small print—number was derived from profits in some way “foreign”.

183
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:47:24pm

re: #175 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Dear Dana Loesch: How Do You Sleep at Night? (The daily beast)

Mean journalists picking on Dana Loesch.

Dana Loesch has certainly shown she’s a coward when she doens’t have the control of her studio and her platform to spew her vile.

Terrified of teenagers with social media accounts. That’s the NRA. If they only had a “good” person with a social media account, maybe all these social media takedowns wouldn’t be happening.

184
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:48:48pm

re: #175 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Dear Dana Loesch: How Do You Sleep at Night? (The daily beast)

I didn’t know about Loesch’s tattoo, this is the passage it references:

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

Then there’s a bunch more about what the armor of God is, but it’s less interesting because it talks about peace and whatnot…

Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

All quotes from the NIV bible.

185
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:49:32pm

re: #181 dangerman

if 157k is the profits at “its hotels and similar businesses last year”, then he’s a miserable businessman

Allegedly, that refers to the profits gained from foreign government officials using his properties.

Of course, since the Trump Org. nor the Treasury will release the info on that, we’ll just have to take their word for it. Somehow that part didn’t really make it into my newspaper.

186
gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:50:04pm

Tom Waits in case you were wondering

187
Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:50:41pm

re: #184 KGxvi

I didn’t know about Loesch’s tattoo, this is the passage it references:

Then there’s a bunch more about what the armor of God is, but it’s less interesting because it talks about peace and whatnot…

All quotes from the NIV bible.

No cite of the Old Testament verse that says: “Don’t get a tattoo”?

188
gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:51:14pm
189
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:52:02pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

Allegedly, that refers to the profits gained from foreign government officials using his properties.

Of course, since the Trump Org. nor the Treasury will release the info on that, we’ll just have to take their word for it. Somehow that part didn’t really make it into my newspaper.

There are already FOIA requests for the documents. I’m guessing the number is going to be much closer to zero than it is to $157k… or maybe it’s more like $157k in billing to the State Department and Secret Service for additional security.

190
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:52:09pm
191
darthstar  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:52:20pm

So Shkreli got seven years…good. Fuck that guy.

192
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:53:15pm

re: #187 Decatur Deb

No cite of the Old Testament verse that says: “Don’t get a tattoo”?

Nah, she’s probably one of those “Jesus fulfilled the covenant of the Old Testament so those rules don’t apply (except for the part about gay sex because, ew, gross)” types.

193
MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:53:54pm
194
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:54:42pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

That would be fine if we had a traditional president instead of the unseemly one stinkin’ up the office.

These times call for extraordinary measures. We have a country to save. Break with tradition before we don’t have any.

trump broke the presidency and he’s working on breaking the country

bush could break an unwritten “rule”

195
Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:55:59pm

re: #193 MsJ

Eventually, it’s going to be just Trump and Baldrick.

196
makeitstop  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:56:11pm

re: #175 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Dear Dana Loesch: How Do You Sleep at Night? (The daily beast)

That was just righteous.

197
Dr Lizardo  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:56:36pm

re: #195 Decatur Deb

Eventually, it’s going to be just Trump and Baldrick.

Poor Baldrick.

198
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:56:54pm
199
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:56:57pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

Allegedly, that refers to the profits gained from foreign government officials using his properties.

Of course, since the Trump Org. nor the Treasury will release the info on that, we’ll just have to take their word for it. Somehow that part didn’t really make it into my newspaper.

its still a pittance and i dont believe it

200
Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:57:16pm

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Poor Baldrick.

At least he has a plan.

201
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:57:45pm

Charles is not the only one with “Same Name As An Asshole” problem.

202
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:58:05pm

re: #194 dangerman

trump broke the presidency and he’s working on breaking the country

bush could break an unwritten “rule”

I’m not sure Bush’s stature is such that it makes sense for him being the guy. I don’t think many consider him any sort of Statesman, and I’m to be honest, I’m not sure there are any of those left on the GOP side. We’d be a billion times better off if it was someone in the GOP Congressional leadership, preferably someone who wasn’t about to retire. But I’m just not sure anyone has that profile in courage left in them.

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dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 1:58:29pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

mueller will very politely say “the investigation will be over when we’ve finished investigating”

204
ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:00:15pm

re: #193 MsJ

[Embedded content]

The White House is an awful big house for one man to reside and work.

Because no one else is going to have him…

205
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:00:38pm

re: #193 MsJ

[Embedded content]

i dont see mcmaster being booted while they’re planning this NoKo thing.
there is no one in the white house with any experience in this

206
gocart mozart  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:01:35pm
207
MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:01:43pm

re: #204 ObserverArt

The White House is an awful big house for one man to reside and work.

Because no one else is going to have him…

Sing Sing would be much better suited.l, don’t you think? 🙂

208
MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:02:44pm

re: #205 dangerman

i dont see mcmaster being booted while they’re planning this NoKo thing.
there is no one in the white house with any experience in this

You give these idiots far too much credit. For thinking. At all. They can’t, won’t and don’t.

209
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:02:59pm

The standoff continues at the Yountville Veterans Home.

The press is starting to report he entered with an automatic weapon and body armour.

YOUNTVILLE, Calif. (KGO) —
A man wearing body armor and armed with an automatic weapon stormed into a Napa County veterans home Friday morning and has taken at least three people hostage, according to reports.

Law enforcement from the Napa County, Marin and the California Highway Patrol have surrounded the Veterans Home of California in Yountville, which is the largest veterans’ residence community in the United States.

abc7news.com

(Live video from helicopter or a drone)

210
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:03:52pm

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

Charles is not the only one with “Same Name As An Asshole” problem.

[Embedded content]

from the last thread:

New York Magazine Approval Matrix

the rage furby has been ignominiously condemned to the lowbrow, despicable quadrant

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:04:10pm

re: #203 dangerman

mueller will very politely say “the investigation will be over when we’ve finished investigating”

“…and not one second sooner Mr. Trump. Now please, sit down and answer the questions. I have all the time in the world. Your’s is getting shorter.”

212
Jay C  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:05:30pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

At least he has a plan.

And a cunning plan at that!

214
EPR-radar  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:05:53pm

re: #202 KGxvi

I’m not sure Bush’s stature is such that it makes sense for him being the guy. I don’t think many consider him any sort of Statesman, and I’m to be honest, I’m not sure there are any of those left on the GOP side. We’d be a billion times better off if it was someone in the GOP Congressional leadership, preferably someone who wasn’t about to retire. But I’m just not sure anyone has that profile in courage left in them.

I think it’s clear that the Mueller investigation will need to extend to complicit GOP members of Congress. Whether it was GOP natural instinct or an actual planned conspiracy, we have GOP members of Congress aiding and abetting numerous criminal acts of the Trump administration.

215
Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:06:29pm

re: #210 dangerman

from the last thread:

New York Magazine Approval Matrix

the rage furby has been ignominiously condemned to the lowbrow, despicable quadrant

But it’s attention, so he’ll be out celebrating.

216
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:06:50pm

re: #208 MsJ

You give these idiots far too much credit. For thinking. At all. They can’t, won’t and don’t.

i keep forgetting.
still, theyre gonna boot out the only guy who can find the korean peninsula on a map?
yeah i guess maybe

217
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:07:00pm

re: #205 dangerman

i dont see mcmaster being booted while they’re planning this NoKo thing.
there is no one in the white house with any experience in this

Given McMaster’s book, Dereliction of Duty, that was actually fairly critical (based on the summaries I’ve seen) of the military’s failure to pushback on the poor planning of the Vietnam War, they may just want him out. Can’t imagine he’d be particularly on board with another land war in Asia (nuclear edition).

218
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:07:48pm

re: #211 ObserverArt

“…and not one second sooner Mr. Trump. Now please, sit down and answer the questions. I have all the time in the world. Your’s is getting shorter.”

i think so yes.
these things dont run on a schedule
they run till theyre done

219
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:08:21pm

re: #210 dangerman

from the last thread:

New York Magazine Approval Matrix

the rage furby has been ignominiously condemned to the lowbrow, despicable quadrant

From that:

theartnewspaper.com

Cases of art censorship on Facebook continue to surface. The latest work deemed “pornographic” is the 30,000 year-old nude statue famously known as the Venus of Willendorf, part of the Naturhistorisches Museum (NHM) collection in Vienna. An image of the work posted on Facebook by Laura Ghianda, a self-described “artivist”, was removed as inappropriate content despite four attempts to appeal the decision.

The early Stone Age statue, which depicts a voluptuous woman with prominent labia, was discovered in Austria in 1908 and is famed for its detailed carving and realism. Ghianda’s post denouncing Facebook’s censorship in December last year was shared over 7,000 times.

(more)

220
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:08:25pm

re: #213 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

dont think id wanna be in a band with that name

221
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:09:28pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

But it’s attention, so he’ll be out celebrating.

“dude, lemmee explain ‘lowbrow’ and ‘despicable’”
“ah, never mind”

222
Dr Lizardo  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:10:17pm

Gonna call it a day. Good night, Lizards.

223
MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:10:23pm

LMAO

224
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:11:00pm

re: #217 KGxvi

Given McMaster’s book, Dereliction of Duty, that was actually fairly critical (based on the summaries I’ve seen) of the military’s failure to pushback on the poor planning of the Vietnam War, they may just want him out. Can’t imagine he’d be particularly on board with another land war in Asia (nuclear edition).

yeah, i just meant the talks.
i wasnt even considering the day after they fall apart

i think my bus is here

225
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:11:29pm

re: #219 Anymouse 🌹

Reminds me of the Simpsons where Rev Lovejoy’s wife and Flanders wanted to protest Michelangelo’s David as indecent.

226
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:13:05pm

re: #219 Anymouse 🌹

From that:

theartnewspaper.com

(more)

that they get right quick
nazis, not so much

227
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:13:51pm

re: #224 dangerman

yeah, i just meant the talks.
i wasnt even considering the day after they fall apart

i think my bus is here

I’m trying to think what everyone’s line of thinking is in these talks:

Trump - I’m so fucking great, this is the best, so presidential, Obama could never due this
Tillerson - wait, is there oil in North Korea?
McMaster - hey, Mattis, want to get a drink?
Mattis - way ahead of you HR, way ahead…

228
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:14:26pm

Nap time … catch y’all later.

229
MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:15:14pm
230
Jay C  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:16:09pm

re: #153 Nyet

And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Martin Shkreli, King of Trolls.

Look upon my works, O meatspace, and despair!

And round that decay, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch, littered with paper
Up to the prison walls far away.

231
Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:17:05pm

re: #225 KGxvi

Reminds me of the Simpsons where Rev Lovejoy’s wife and Flanders wanted to protest Michelangelo’s David as indecent.

According to a Sistine Chapel tour guide, there was a cardinal who raised a lot of crap about improper nudity in the chapel artwork, so Michaelangelo painted him among the damned in The Last Judgement fresco. (Nude, IIRC.)

232
MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:18:14pm

Damn. All kinds of stuff happening.

——————————————

233
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:18:46pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

According to a Sistine Chapel tour guide, there was a cardinal who raised a lot of crap about improper nudity in the chapel artwork, so Michaelangelo painted him among the damned in The Last Judgement fresco. (Nude, IIRC.)

Also reminds me of Ashcroft’s curtains in front of the Lady Justice statues at DOJ.

234
goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:20:00pm

re: #164 Nyet

Finished Altered Carbon today. Still can recommend. More for the cinematic stuff than the story itself, but still.

Agree, it didn’t really live up to the noir detective potential I saw in the beginning but all things considered it was decent as far as modern sci fi goes. I like the melding of concepts from Ghost in the Shell and Bladerunner into something that still managed to stand on its own, even if it wobbled quite a bit.

235
JordanRules  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:22:51pm
236
dangerman  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:23:47pm

re: #232 MsJ

Damn. All kinds of stuff happening.

Wow, this is really embarrassing for Hans von Spakovsky…Audio in which he falsely denied having written a controversial email is entered into evidence to impeach his credibility as witness in the Kobach proof-of-citizenship law trial

“lordy, there are tapes”

237
Nyet  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:25:07pm

Now onto the Punisher…

238
Jay C  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:25:24pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

According to a Sistine Chapel tour guide, there was a cardinal who raised a lot of crap about improper nudity in the chapel artwork, so Michaelangelo painted him among the damned in The Last Judgement fresco. (Nude, IIRC.)

Biagio Martinelli da Cesena: his mug is still on the Sistine Wall: donkey ears, snake and all. He must have been a real asshole: when he complained to the Pope about what Michelangelo had done, the Pontiff asked him where Biagio was painted, and when he said “in Hell”, Leo X Paul III replied sorry, that was out of his jurisdiction, so he couldn’t help…..

Though eventually, they did hire another painter to add some strategic drapery to the “Last Judgement”: IIRC, the overpainting wasn’t removed until restorations in the 20th Century

239
KGxvi  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:26:38pm

re: #237 Nyet

Now onto the Punisher…

I’m quite excited for Season 2 of Jessica Jones, going to binge it this weekend.

240
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:28:14pm

re: #207 MsJ

Sing Sing would be much better suited.l, don’t you think? 🙂

Sing Sing is a state correctional institution. Dotard will likely do federal time.
Now, Eric may have an opportunity to visit Sing Sing. Though, if it were my choice, Eric would visit Auburn. There is no view other than the wall at Auburn.

241
Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:28:48pm

re: #238 Jay C

Biagio Martinelli da Cesena: his mug is still on the Sistine Wall: donkey ears, snake and all. He must have been a real asshole: when he complained to the Pope about what Michelangelo had done, the Pontiff asked him where Biagio was painted, and when her said “in Hell”, Leo X replied that that was out his jurisdiction, so he couldn’t help…..

Though eventually, they did hire another painter to add some strategic drapery to the “Last Judgement”: IIRC, the overpainting wasn’t removed until restorations in the 20th Century

Yep. Per Wiki, there were a number of coverups, as prudery waxed and waned.
en.wikipedia.org

242
sagehen  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:33:20pm

re: #170 Belafon

I’m reading the book. I haven’t read any hard boiled detective books before, so I’m not entirely sure how to compare them, but the author is doing a decent job of making the tech seem both a normal part of society, and at the same time showing how the dark side of its use would have evolved as well.

If it makes you want to read more hard boiled detective books, I highly recommend Raymond Chandler (1940’s) and Michael Connelly (1990’s to present). Both are set in SoCal. Walter Mosely’s main character (Easy Rawlins) isn’t quite as hard-boiled, but the settings and plot are still pretty noir (post-WWII, mostly black characters — about evenly split between native Angelenos and transplants from Louisiana.)

243
Dave In Austin  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:33:46pm

Still in the race

244
wheat-dogg  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:45:04pm

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

I am also a fan of Senri-chan. Saw her perform live at Blues Alley in Tokyo last year - her 20th birthday gig.

245
MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:47:17pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sing Sing is a state correctional institution. Dotard will likely do federal time.
Now, Eric may have an opportunity to visit Sing Sing. Though, if it were my choice, Eric would visit Auburn. There is no view other than the wall at Auburn.

That would be apropos.

246
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2018 • 2:53:18pm

re: #242 sagehen

If it makes you want to read more hard boiled detective books, I highly recommend Raymond Chandler (1940’s) and Michael Connelly (1990’s to present). Both are set in SoCal. Walter Mosely’s main character (Easy Rawlins) isn’t quite as hard-boiled, but the settings and plot are still pretty noir (post-WWII, mostly black characters — about evenly split between native Angelenos and transplants from Louisiana.)

I also recommend:

Loren Estleman (Amos Walker series, set in Detroit)
Jonathan Kellerman (Alex Delaware series, set in LA but more upscale than “hard boiled”)

247
MsJ  Mar 9, 2018 • 3:00:10pm

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

I also recommend:

Loren Estleman (Amos Walker series, set in Detroit)
Jonathan Kellerman (Alex Delaware series, set in LA but more upscale than “hard boiled”)

Let’s not forget Robert Crais (Elvis Cole and Joe Pike). Lots of humor, as well. Great writer.

248
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2018 • 3:31:11pm

re: #135 Interesting Times

I’ve been meaning to ask - I believe you were opposed to the TPP mainly because of its onerous copyright provisions based on the US model. It seems they’ve been relaxed by the remaining countries:

Do you think the revised deal resolves the concerns you had with the first one?

ahhhh…explains this:

249
Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2018 • 7:10:13pm

re: #69 KGxvi

Ok, I’ll bite. How does making the cast more diverse hurt the story? It’s been a very long time since I’ve read the book (and might need to dig up a copy because I loved it as a kid), but I don’t remember the race of the characters being central to the plot…

It hurts the story because bigots are seething about the distracting miscegenation on screen.//


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Jungle Performing ‘Heavy, California’ Live on KCRW Jungle’s highly anticipated sophomore album was heavily influenced by their time living here in Los Angeles. We share a live session with the UK band on the release date for For Ever. Watch the full session here:kcrw.com kcrw.comMusic | ...
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Steely Dan: More Than Just a BandPOLYPHONIC MERCHANDISE: store.dftba.com Music by Pracs: SoundCloud Support me on Patreon: patreon.com Twitter: @watchpolyphonicFacebook: facebook.com
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Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats Performing ‘You Worry Me’ Live on KCRW Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats released their excellent sophomore album Tearing at the Seams earlier this year and have been on the road ever since. Inspired by personal drama, but full of hope, the new songs come alive ...
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Childish Gambino - Feels Like Summer There's a lot more to the lyrics and the video than you first see, while the music amd vocal style reminds me of some "hopeful while showing the hopeless" '70's tunes. “Feels Like Summer” by Childish Gambino smarturl.ittour tickets ...
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The 36% Deplorables Still Back the Babooncnn.com No suprise to me. Despite the raving lunatic Tweets, the nonsense policy decisions, the stoking of racial tensions, the Mafia Thug style approach to law, and the blatant grabs for more power, Trump has not dipped in his support ...
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