A Documentary From 2030: Looking Back at the Fall of Donald Trump [VIDEO]
In this documentary from the future, members of Trump’s (Anthony Atamanuik) inner circle look back at when things started to go so very wrong for the president.
In this documentary from the future, members of Trump’s (Anthony Atamanuik) inner circle look back at when things started to go so very wrong for the president.
heh
“This is CNN, not FOX, you have to bring facts to this debate” - @AndrewGillum to DeSantis. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
— Symone D. Sanders (@SymoneDSanders) October 22, 2018
“She was like Chita Rivera with subpoena power.”
re: #133 Anymouse 🌹
He’s scared, standing so close to a black guy.
the hypocrisy of bible thumping Trump supporters. pic.twitter.com/bSgnpLo9vs
— Rogelio Garcia Lawyer (@LawyerRogelio) October 20, 2017
Today at #Politicon2018 I’m on a panel called “Thank God For Trump” of mostly right wing Christians who voted for Caligula. I’m not sure why they invited me. I don’t think you want to miss this one. 12noon. @Politicon https://t.co/fM6ejGkYcP
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) October 21, 2018
Marijuana sales in Colorado exceeded $1 billion as of August of this year, with tax revenue from those sales coming in at $200 million, according to a report from the Colorado Department of Revenue and its Marijuana Enforcement Division. https://t.co/YrSfdsSztP pic.twitter.com/g7KxPoGy7i
— Post Independent (@GlenwoodPI) October 22, 2018
Peddling such dangerous substances, BLOOD MONEY!
Not everyone who tries pot dies. Some people just throw up a lot of blood & permanently lose the use of their hands. #420NO
— rob delaney (@robdelaney) September 24, 2012
When asked about the “monkey up” comment, @RonDeSantisFL makes a nonsensical pivot to Israel and veterans and doesn’t really explain administering a white nationalist facebook page and certain connections to suspect groups. #BringItHome #FLGovDebate pic.twitter.com/U9RCqvjoUO
— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) October 22, 2018
Max Boot: Under Fox And Trump, The GOP Has Transformed Into ‘A White Nationalist Party’ https://t.co/LBEBmghq8L pic.twitter.com/JGiRWlitpp
— Contemptor (@TheContemptor) October 21, 2018
This is bull shit…the white nationalism was already there, Fox and Trump just took advantage of it https://t.co/1OHMeX9w6v
— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) October 21, 2018
Very true, this white supremacist poison has been incubating in right wing networks for many years. It never went away. The main difference now is that it’s out in the open. https://t.co/84fG0JMO50
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 22, 2018
re: #9 Charles Johnson
Thanks, Barry Goldwater. It’s been incubating in the GOP before I was five.
This is how you write a headline. pic.twitter.com/LNPlfxs5r9
— Sara Valentine (@saramvalentine) October 17, 2018
this is soooo good:
This was the moment of the debate for me: @AndrewGillum gives the PERFECT reaction to DeSantis’ weird answer about Trump being a role model for kids. Perfect. And hilarious. #FLGovDebate pic.twitter.com/wP608iIxIA
— Tommy Christopher (@tommyxtopher) October 22, 2018
Andrew Gillum’s response: “The congressman was against the piece of legislation because he is wholly owned by the NRA. He’s not gonna stand up to the National Rifle Association. That’s why they’re running all these ads against me because they want the man that they bought.” pic.twitter.com/U1xQUPbpBq
— CNN (@CNN) October 22, 2018
moron-in-chief was obviously watching a different debate.
Ron @RonDeSantisFL DeSantis had a great debate victory tonight against Andrew Gillum, a mayor who presides over one of the worst run, and most corrupt, cities in Florida. Ron will build on the great job done by Governor Rick Scott. Gillum will make Florida the next Venezuela!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018
There are a whole bunch of comparisons of the debate between DeSantis and Gillum as the debate between Nixon and Kennedy.
I need to get to bed. It’s late and I’ve been hanging out here far too long. I do that too much I might learn something … I’m not sure if I’m up to that. (::
“Gillum will make Florida the next Venezuela!”
I suspect Moscow Donnie has had someone writing his campaign tweets for him this week. Sometimes I wonder if it’s Miller.
re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron-in-chief was obviously watching a different debate.
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Do we think he was even watching the debate? This tweet (like most everything else our First Imbecile spews out) sounds just like almost every other “political” comment he makes: some staffer probably just recalled an old one and substituted “Florida”, “DeSantis” and “Gillum” where appropriate….
I’m going to call the orange bag a liar every day until he’s gone or I shuffle off this mortal coil, or he blocks me.
re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron-in-chief was obviously watching a different debate.
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Noun verb Venezuala.
re: #20 VegasGolfer
Noun verb Venezuala.
English is traditionally taught as an SVO grammar - subject verb object.
In Trump’s case tonight it is SVV - subject verb Venezuela.
We got back from DC about 45 minutes ago. Man, that was one action-packed weekend. On Friday, we walked from our apartment on D Street SW to the Lincoln Memorial. Still feeling it.
I have nearly 600 photos to sort through. I have to admit, as fucked up as this country is right now, those monuments and building remain pretty inspiring, Trump and his asshole enablers notwithstanding..
re: #21 freetoken
It was obviously a reference to Bidens jab to Giulaini.
Tonight’s Dr Who was AWESOME!!
If you don’t get BBCAmerica, you can buy single eps at iTunes. Worth your time. (it’s set in 1955 Montgomery AL.)
If you can line up to buy Powerball tickets, you can line up to vote. The chance that your vote decides an election is actually much higher than your chance if winning the lottery.
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) October 21, 2018
re: #9 Charles Johnson
White supremacy and its ideological predecessors have been major political forces since the founding of the Republic. All Trump and Fox have done is encourage it to come out of the closet into which it had been temporarily driven by public shaming and federal action. Not for nothing is the federal government the main target of white nationalist agitation. It has been the strong arm behind the gradual progress toward justice in this country, from the Emancipation Proclamation to the Civil Rights Act and many other actions since.
re: #21 freetoken
English is traditionally taught as an SVO grammar - subject verb object.
In Trump’s case tonight it is SVV - subject verb Venezuela.
Trump keeps pointing at Venezuela as an example of socialism, when what actually wrecked Venezuela was crony capitalism and corrupt courts. Chavez just stuck a leftist-populist label on the same cultural bad habits.
According to a Health Department proposal, gender identity shall be set by genitalia only. So… does that means Trump is a fungus? #Toad
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) October 22, 2018
re: #28 jaunte
That sure killed this thread!
re: #29 retired cynic
Late night run to the drug store for anti-fungal spray.
re: #31 teleskiguy
Someone should make a giant parade balloon of that.
It’s a damn shame that Toad had to be dragged into all this. Now every time someone sees innocent little Toad we think of Fuckface Von Clownstick’s penis.
re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹
It’s a good thing I don’t live near you. I’d weigh a thousand pounds….
re: #37 teleskiguy
It’s a damn shame that Toad had to be dragged into all this. Now every time someone sees innocent little Toad we think of Fuckface Von Clownstick’s penis.
This is why I train myself to not think about some of the things people say.
re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, it’s FOOD time!
Lenny’s Deli on Westwood in Los Angeles.
They always give you a starter plate with real sour pickles and sweet kraut!
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Süßkraut? That’s a new one on me.
re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Süßkraut? That’s a new one on me.
Yeah, man! What gives? Kraut is sour, right?!?
re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Haven’t you had sweet-sour red cabbage? Similar thing, I would guess. It’s one of my favorites.
re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Süßkraut? That’s a new one on me.
Lenny’s kraut marinates in sweet pickle juice. No other deli here in Los Angeles serves sweet kraut!
re: #38 retired cynic
It’s a good thing I don’t live near you. I’d weigh a thousand pounds….
Oh, I atoned by working out at the YMCA on an elliptical for a good solid hour!
Watching “Heat” for the millionth time. Jon Voight is so awesome in his limited role. Sucks that he’s a total Trump-loving nutjob.
Trump supporters line up 24 hours ahead of rally https://t.co/YQy6qTkbFU
— Houston Chronicle (@HoustonChron) October 22, 2018
Is that a Q-Anon shirt?
re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, it’s FOOD time!
Lenny’s Deli on Westwood in Los Angeles.
They always give you a starter plate with real sour pickles and sweet kraut!
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Jeez, Joe: you ought to post a warning with that stuff: I could feel the plaque building up on my arteries just looking at the pictures….
Too bad it’s just pictures, though— yum!!
re: #46 jaunte
The majority of Houston hates that fat bastard.
In the realm of #FirstWorldProblems…
I went to my local cannabis shop to get some more of that tasty Amnesia Haze, a cannabis sativa strain that tests over 32% THC, potent stuff, the way I like it. And they were out. Shopkeeper told me he couldn’t keep it on the shelf, that it was one of the most popular strains he’s ever sold. I had to settle for some Durban Poison, a cannabis sativa that tests just over 25% THC, still strong stuff but not the “one hit quit” Amnesia Haze I’ve been polluting my lungs with for the last two months.
re: #45 Ace Rothstein
Watching “Heat” for the millionth time. Jon Voight is so awesome in his limited role. Sucks that he’s a total Trump-loving nutjob.
“It’s a free country, brother.”
re: #46 jaunte
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Is that a Q-Anon shirt?
Sure does look like a Q shirt. Means she’s QWAZY!
re: #46 jaunte
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Is that a Q-Anon shirt?
Hey wait, I thought Trumpers had jobs, unlike us filthy welfare queen liberals?
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re: #48 Ace Rothstein
I scrolled through the photos; there’s some guy that came down from Waco in there.
I think the idea of sitting on the sidewalk all night just to see Trump do his ‘hits’ separates the nuts from the sane.
So he’s been calling it the “Democrat” party because that’s what he hears them call it on Fox News, but he’s too stupid to realize it’s an insult.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 22, 2018
re: #52 SteelPH
Hey wait, I thought Trumpers had jobs, unlike us filthy welfare queen liberals?
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I’m sure a chunk of those folks are on Social Security or Supplemental Security and they will still kiss Trump’s ass even after he cuts their benefits!
re: #47 Jay C
Jeez, Joe: you ought to post a warning with that stuff: I could feel the plaque building up on my arteries just looking at the pictures….
Too bad it’s just pictures, though— yum!!
Just trying to cheer folks up, Jay!
Attention all moving companies.
Moving heavy objects is now a breeze with this innovative dolly solution pic.twitter.com/IyrRgiAtJw
— Interesting Engineering (@IntEngineering) October 22, 2018
re: #50 teleskiguy
“He’s a heart attack man. Three marriages, what that the fuck you think that means, he likes staying home?”
re: #59 Ace Rothstein
“…Hanna likes you. Thinks you’re some kind of rock star.”
re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
White supremacy and its ideological predecessors have been major political forces since the founding of the Republic. All Trump and Fox have done is encourage it to come out of the closet into which it had been temporarily driven by public shaming and federal action. Not for nothing is the federal government the main target of white nationalist agitation. It has been the strong arm behind the gradual progress toward justice in this country, from the Emancipation Proclamation to the Civil Rights Act and many other actions since.
There have been other times when it appeared that we were making progress and then it was lost. The 2018 book How Democracies Die describes how during Reconstruction, the 14th and 15th Amendments granted universal male suffrage; African American men voted and won elective offices throughout the South, including to Congress and the Senate. In many southern states, black registration rates exceeded 90%. Once Reconstruction ended, the southern Democrats changed the laws using race-neutral language but designed specifically to disenfranchise blacks — among them literacy tests and poll taxes. In South Carolina for example, black turnout which reached 96 % in 1876 fell to 11% in 1898. In Tennessee, by 1896 black turnout was close to zero.
It wasn’t until the 1960’s that legislation restored voting rights — and the Roberts’ Court in effect destroyed that legislation. The modern Republicans are the heirs to the old southern Democrats; they too are promulgating requirements using language that appears race-neutral but designed to suppress minority voters — blacks in the South, native Americans in South Dakota. If we don’t stop these monsters now, it may take generations to recover — if ever.
Have I mentioned lately that I fucking love the edit feature here at LGF? It’s awesome. Even us smart folks misspell your/you’re from time to time. And here at LGF you can *edit* that shit!
re: #60 teleskiguy
“You do this sharp, you do that sharp. Look how sharp this guy is to figure that.”
One of my favorite scenes. It’s beautifully lit and acted.
re: #63 Ace Rothstein
“This guy can hit or miss. You can’t miss once.”
re: #36 Joe Bacon 🌹
And then the main course of Lenny’s Pastrami with baby latkes!
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I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
(But I’m also on my own pastrami high after returning home from NYC. Mmmmm…. Zabar’s!)
re: #64 teleskiguy
“It’s worth the stretch.”
re: #64 teleskiguy
“How ya doin’? What do ya say I buy you a cup of coffee?”
re: #66 Ace Rothstein
Yeah, I think you and I have seen Heat too many times. Hell, I saw it three times in the theater when it came out.
re: #68 teleskiguy
Hanna: “So you never wanted a regular-type life?”
McCauley: “The fuck is that? Barbecues and ball games?”
re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter
I should add that the voter disenfranchisement in the 19th century was basically limited to southern states run by Democrats; the new version is not limited to southern states but has metastasized to all diverse states run by Republicans.
re: #71 teleskiguy
That line was improvised. The actor’s reaction is totally WTF real.
re: #72 Ace Rothstein
Check out this article about director Michael Mann, fascinating profile that labels him as “Hollywood’s Greatest Hack.”
#USNavy @USSHARRYSTRUMAN Strike Group enters #ArticCircle ahead of @NATO-led exercise #TridentJuncture - https://t.co/A32ZTv9HNM (File photo) #NavyReadiness pic.twitter.com/UXBVC0VHT4
— U.S. Navy (@USNavy) October 20, 2018
re: #74 Single-handed sailor
Where’s the ArticCircle?
re: #75 retired cynic
That’s where all the pirates hang out.
Excellent yet sobering and somewhat depressing essay by @ezraklein about the state of politics in the United States. The rigging of American politics https://t.co/yOUvQXTTQV via @voxdotcom
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) October 22, 2018
It is a good read, pulls no punches.
Some late nite entertainment of the unusual type….
Doctor Who plot point/question:
When Ryan used the time zapper to send that guy back to “not sure exactly when or where”… is that going to come back to bite us later in the season?
I hope he didn’t send him to the Confederacy, with lots of info about troop movements and such.
re: #84 sagehen
Doctor Who plot point/question:
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Since the Master is gone, maybe he is becoming a Master replacement?
re: #82 teleskiguy
Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama
@teleskiguy
Excellent yet sobering and somewhat depressing essay by @ezraklein about the state of politics in the United States. The rigging of American politics vox.com … via @voxdotcom12:15 AM - Oct 22, 2018
It is a good read, pulls no punches.
Very bleak — and although the Russians may have hastened this process, it started long before they interfered.
As to conventions to rewrite the Constitution — the Koch Bros and their ilk are financing a campaign to do exactly that — and it will just accelerate all the dire predictions itemized in the article. After all, new amendments aren’t passed through popular vote but on the same flawed system that is leading our nation to destruction now. And who does Levinson think will be the participants in this convention — they certainly won’t be leaders of the caliber of Adams or Jefferson or Hamilton. No — they will be the Kobachs and Steven Kings and Michelle Bachmanns.
So as I’m realizing that the state Lotteries are about as diagnostic of America as anything else, I decide to spend time learning about them.
As I wrote last night, never trust a gambler, and for sure never trust the game-monger.
The propagandizing is so over the top that I wonder if all this is somehow linked to creationism. I haven’t made the connection yet, just pondering it.
For example, consider this PowerBall propaganda video, about a recent win in Missouri:
The narrator calls their win “big”.
But is it?
$1M split 166 ways gives $6024 each, before taxes. Now I doubt any of them are in a high tax bracket, but let’s say federal and state taxes total to 15%, that makes the net win $5120 per person.
I’m not trivializing 5 grand - I’m sure the people appreciated the check - but it’s probably only a couple of months pay for them. While for a few teetering on calamity the $5k may be a brief respite, I propose that for most of them all it means is a few pieces of furniture, or a more bountiful Christmas.
I’m not demeaning the people - I understand all too well the desperation to find the golden ticket.
What I’m increasingly disgusted at is the lottery company and the states’ lottery commissions, who keep making these wins out to be something that they are not.
These Lottery odds are horrible, far, far worse than a casino. You’re better off playing the craps table, the notorious example of lost money in a casino.
The only reason to play the state Lotteries is to win the jackpot, and then only when it is big enough to make an almost certainly lost $2 still worth the risk.
Plates just moved.
A 6.8 magnitude earthquake occurred 145.4mi SW of Port Hardy, Canada. Details: https://t.co/DaYePWfg4N Map: https://t.co/aJgYeZIykh
— Earthquake Robot (@earthquakeBot) October 22, 2018
Dayum.
I got a present from @KSAembassy_RUS pic.twitter.com/NfZ8xDDzIz
— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) October 22, 2018
re: #90 teleskiguy
More practical that a hat or gloves, I guess.
re: #82 teleskiguy
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It is a good read, pulls no punches.
Outstanding read! Thanks for posting.
Certainly it is one way that the American system could fail. If it does, we are looking at multiple generations of working out a solution. I hope that it doesn’t come to that.
Why the outrage? Saudi’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman is said to have asked, during a phone call with Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, regarding Jamal Khashoggi’s disappearance, according to the Wall Street Journal https://t.co/O9AKcwKpnI pic.twitter.com/Npyplwscp0
— Al Jazeera News (@AJENews) October 22, 2018
Was that wrong?
Should I not have done that?
I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon…
You know, ‘cause I’ve worked in a lot of offices, and I tell you, people do that all the time.
re: #89 freetoken
Selling the sizzle, not the steak.
re: #93 Single-handed sailor
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Was that wrong?
Should I not have done that?
I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon…
You know, ‘cause I’ve worked in a lot of offices, and I tell you, people do that all the time.
Any flexibility on the whole Christmas spirit thing?
re: #94 ckkatz
Selling the sizzle, not the steak.
And irony of ironies, someone who got some steak in Iowa appears to have turned vegetarian:
I checked the Iowa Lottery webpage and the prize is still not claimed.
re: #97 freetoken
I guess that there are two ossibilities.
One is that the winner doesn’t realize that they won. Which is kind of saddening as I suspect that the winner probably would benefit from the payoff.
Or that the winner is trying to time the collection of the payoff.
But you are totally correct in pointing out that the state and the for-profit lottery management company both benefit from selling more tickets, reducing payouts, and letting uncollected winnings timeout. There is certainly a conflict of interest there.
One of my college Econ professors used to call the lottery a tax on the less sophisticated members of our society. (Well, actually, he was less diplomatic in his phrasing.)
I guess that I should add that despite the Econ Professor’s comments, I did buy some lottery tickets last week. And will probably do so again this week.
re: #98 ckkatz
The timing thing may be possible, either to put the income in 2019, or waiting on a divorce, etc.
Another idea is that it was a student who graduated shortly after the drawing in April. The ticket was bought in Nevada, which is close to Iowa State University, and faculty/students live in that town. So perhaps some poor student (burdened with school debt) finally graduated and moved, possibly lost things (as happens in moves.)
Twitter is awash with links to stories about how bad it is for you to win the lottery.
Don’t believe them.
As I tried to illustrate last night, all too often the quoted statistics are just made up.
Twitter is such a wasteland.
re: #101 freetoken
What’s the old joke…
47.9 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot.
re: #101 freetoken
You remind me of the case where a lottery winner, or maybe several, were in Delaware.
They formed a corporation in a way to keep their anonymity; Assigned the lottery ticket to that; Then had a lawyer for the corporation do the winnings collection and public contact.
I suspect that most states shortly thereafter passed laws requiring the winners to out themselves publicly.
re: #101 freetoken
Twitter is awash with links to stories about how bad it is for you to win the lottery.
Don’t believe them.
As I tried to illustrate last night, all too often the quoted statistics are just made up.
Twitter is such a wasteland.
It’s not bad for the winner, but it is bad for their neighbors.
As if you needed proof that trying to keep up with the Joneses isn’t a good idea, here it is: Close neighbors of lottery winners in Canada tended to spend more on conspicuous goods, put more money into speculative investments such as stocks, borrow more money—and eventually declare bankruptcy.
“The larger the dollar magnitude of a lottery prize of one individual in a very small neighborhood, the more subsequent bankruptcies there will be from other individuals in that neighborhood,” says the latest version of a working paper from the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia by Sumit Agarwal of Georgetown University, Vyacheslav Mikhed of the Philadelphia Fed, and Barry Scholnick of the University of Alberta. It’s titled: “Does the Relative Income of Peers Cause Financial Distress? Evidence from Lottery Winners and Neighboring Bankruptcies.”
An earlier version of their paper got a flurry of publicity in 2016 by presenting evidence from bankruptcy filings that neighbors were trying to keep up with the lottery winner in their midst. A telltale sign was that they raised spending on things that everyone in the neighborhood could see, such as cars, but not on indoor items like furniture.
re: #104 goddamnedfrank
Reminds me of a neighborhood in which I lived (and owned a house.)
Being a single professional I did the usual young-guy thing and bought a car that was a bit upscale for my neighborhood. In the succeeding year my neighbors all seemed to have fancy new cars. Except the old retired couple next to me, who knew better.
Little did I know, but there is a “Journal of Gambling Behavior”. Yes, really.
Here is a story from 30 years ago (yes, the myth is at least that old) that tries to dispel the nonsense about winners being losers:
Lottery winners: The myth and reality
This paper is based on a study of 576 lottery winners from 12 states. Respondents to a mailed questionnaire included winners of sums ranging from $50,000 to millions. The data indicate that popular myths and stereotypes about winners were inaccurate. Specifically, winners came from various education and employment backgrounds and they were clustered in the higher income categories than the general population indicating that lotteries might not be as regressive as popularly believed. Winners were older than the general population and more often male (60 versus 40%). There was significant association between the amount a person won and his or her work behavior. Individuals with psychologically and financially rewarding jobs continued working regardless of the amount they won, while people who worked in low paying semi-skilled and unskilled jobs were far more likely to quit the labor force. Contrary to popular beliefs, winners did not engage in lavish spending sprees and instead gave large amounts of their winnings to their children and their churches. The most common expenditures were for houses, automobiles and trips. It was found that overall, winners were well-adjusterd, secure and generally happy from the experience.
A more recent study this year, from Sweden, as found in the NYT:
Money Really Does Lead to a More Satisfying Life
New research suggests that more money really does lead to a more satisfying life. Surveys of thousands of Swedish lottery winners have provided persuasive evidence of this truth.
Lottery winners said they were substantially more satisfied with their lives than lottery losers. And those who won prizes worth hundreds of thousands of dollars reported being more satisfied than winners of mere tens of thousands.
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On the trashy internet, there are still shabby articles that try to take the shine off that story and claim winning makes for disasters.
The problem with the debbie-downers is that they suffer from severe ascertainment bias.
The lottery winner who gets killed by his girlfriend gets to be national news. The dozens of other lottery winners who are leading happy, but quite hidden, lives are just not seen in the news.
I suspect the debbie-downer syndrome is tied to our society’s unwillingness to really address poverty, and the truth that the poor really are worse off than the rest.
DeSantis campaign is so dead that the LDS church is about to baptize it. 🙃
— ∞ tat tva invicta ∞ (@_tatvamasi) October 22, 2018
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) October 22, 2018
I would like nothing more than to see DT face some serious personal consequences for what he has done in office.
But he is still in a powerful position and not even begun to pull out all the aces he still has up his sleeve from the War Powers Act to the power he has over the press, which he derides when they “criticize” (i.e. report objectively about) him, but relies on to spread unfounded claims and misinformation.
You’re misrepresenting the study the way you have phrased your headline. The Swedish study is very positive on the effects of winning a lottery.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) October 22, 2018
The shitty journalism around lotteries shouldn’t amaze me, but I still get frustrated with how ignorance is pushed to the forward and critical thinking is missing.
Rare it is to come across an article that tackles the ascertainment bias, and the faux statistics.
The only thing worse than the shitty journalism is the even more shitty financial “advisors” who pretend to have wisdom around these things, who use the shitty journalism as the source of their “wisdom”.
re: #111 freetoken
The shitty journalism around lotteries shouldn’t amaze me, but I still get frustrated with how ignorance is pushed to the forward and critical thinking is missing.
Rare it is to come across an article that tackles the ascertainment bias, and the faux statistics.
The only thing worse than the shitty journalism is the even more shitty financial “advisors” who pretend to have wisdom around these things, who use the shitty journalism as the source of their “wisdom”.
Their only “wisdom” is based on the PT Barnum quote involving the frequency with which suckers are brought into the world…
I’m genuinely scared at this and don’t have the bandwidth to rage about. Time for allies to step the fuck up because we don’t matter in our own.https://t.co/ylp4diikUP
— Katelyn Boo-rns (@transscribe) October 21, 2018
For those who like the McMansionHell website, she has up a new entry:
50 States of McMansion Hell: Ohio County, West Virginia
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I swear I’ve seen those chairs in like a Boston Market or something. What’s funny about 90s beige is that it’s more gray-tinged (i.e. ‘cold’) which makes it slightly more dreary, whereas 2000s beige is more yellow-tinged (i.e. ‘warm’) and is more mindnumbing. Beige, you see, is a spectrum.
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Also, the term “lottery winners” is undefined. Some people win 100, some people win 100 million. Some definition would be nice here. And the lack of a real study is disturbing, is somewhat understandable. We’ve had so many, and lotteries have been around since the 70’s. We should be able to do an anonymous study on million dollar plus winners and see how they in general are doing both financially or otherwise. I suspect most are doing just fine. The issues are most likely at the margins of both age and a combination of pre-existing problems. The 20 year old who has no experience with money, and the 80 year old cheated out of both time and money make for good copy.
re: #98 ckkatz
I guess that there are two ossibilities.
One is that the winner doesn’t realize that they won. Which is kind of saddening as I suspect that the winner probably would benefit from the payoff.
Or that the winner is trying to time the collection of the payoff.
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Third possibility, one my wife, sister, mother, and I have all discussed.
Seeing you’ve won a large prize, before going public to claim it, you hole up with a lawyer to get your legal position in order, or an accountant to see how to best collect or distribute your money. After you have those ducks in a row, then you go claim the prize.
re: #101 freetoken
Twitter is awash with links to stories about how bad it is for you to win the lottery.
Don’t believe them.
As I tried to illustrate last night, all too often the quoted statistics are just made up.
Twitter is such a wasteland.
I remember a story about a lotto winner who won a large prize in Michigan. The fellow was an elderly janitor in a school in Sault Ste. Marie.
Interviewing him on the news, they asked him if he would quit his job. He said no, he wouldn’t know what to do with himself. He was satisfied with his job and saw no reason to quit just because he won a large lotto prize.
My mother won $5,000 on an instant ticket in Michigan. That paid for my tickets to Brazil to be an exchange student. (Had it not been for that lottery prize I would have been forced to drop out of the programme.)
Anecdotally, I would look at the problem from my stance of no religion, and disdain for rampant uncontrolled capitalism. A great many people are imbued with ideas that only the deserving should be rewarded in this life.
Somehow, the janitor in the above story, who probably doesn’t have an advanced education, doesn’t “deserve” to do well financially vis a vis a physician who went to college and busted his butt in college and internship. He deserves the Mercedes-Benz convertible, while a mere janitor (who contributes nothing as far as those who are wealthy are concerned) does not.
Hence looking for anecdotes which support the supposition “lotto winners are worse off.” It is a just so logical fallacy of cherry-picking which supports the belief that hard work (financial acumen, or a college education) is what you should be rewarded for, and somehow plain luck is unfair.
I can imagine if as an atheist I won a giant lotto prize (aside from not having a college education). I wouldn’t deserve the prize because I am not of the faithful (or worse, Satan gave me the prize despite the tens of millions of Christians who pray to win the lotto). It also fits the just so narrative because according to that mythology Satan is out to destroy people, and winning a lotto prize would somehow “destroy” my wife and me and we would get our divine retribution.
re: #87 freetoken
So as I’m realizing that the state Lotteries are about as diagnostic of America as anything else, I decide to spend time learning about them.
As I wrote last night, never trust a gambler, and for sure never trust the game-monger.
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I’m not demeaning the people - I understand all too well the desperation to find the golden ticket.
What I’m increasingly disgusted at is the lottery company and the states’ lottery commissions, who keep making these wins out to be something that they are not.
These Lottery odds are horrible, far, far worse than a casino. You’re better off playing the craps table, the notorious example of lost money in a casino.
The only reason to play the state Lotteries is to win the jackpot, and then only when it is big enough to make an almost certainly lost $2 still worth the risk.
yeah, bought 6 sets of numbers on the last draw, and had one actual number match. I decided I would have better luck going to New Orleans and trying to win a big money backgammon tournament. MUCH better luck.
LOL
So did you watch the #FLGovDebate? Who won?
— Vanessa Ruffes FOX13 (@RuffesFOX13) October 22, 2018
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 since 1980 every single company I’ve worked for has gone out of business, except Wendy’s, Burger King, and the cannery. What little I manged to put away went goodbye in the 08 crash. And I still have college debt, yay!!!
— RSM (@Skyebunnie) October 22, 2018
This is a pretty typical response to my question: Do you have a 401k and do you expect to be able to live on it when (if) you retire?
You never see Trump address THESE people — and I suspect the vast, vast majority of his base has either no 401k or a story like this. https://t.co/lIdx9eYCdA— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 22, 2018
Tucson “Veterans” on Patrol update: The Pima County Attorney’s Office is warning those living in the Foothills Clusters Neighborhood about possible suspicious activity. https://t.co/1eeiv2HbiM
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) October 21, 2018
Hurricane warnings go up in Mexico as Hurricane Willa approaches the Pacific coastline. The projected track takes the remnants over Texas.
Hurricane Willa is at 155 mph, with strengthening expected today.
re: #119 Anymouse 🌹
DOW low in 2009 was 6443.27. Today it’s 25,444.34. You gotta be in it to win it.
re: #122 Shropshire Slasher
DOW low in 2009 was 6443.27. Today it’s 25,444.34. You gotta be in it to win it.
In 2009 I had just come out of being homeless.
You gotta have money to get in it.
To the apolitical people who voted for Trump just out of morbid curiosity to see what would happen: Now you know. Wouldn’t it be fun to switch it up and see what would happen if Democrats had subpoena power over him?
— Schooley (@Rschooley) October 21, 2018
The idea that a ramshackle caravan of displaced frightened migrants from far less developed nations is a national emergency level threat is an insult to every American citizen, every first responder, every law enforcement agent. We and they are not so hapless as Trump implies.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) October 22, 2018
I finally realized what I hate about the “Act like you’re down by ten points” idea. If we’re down by ten points after all this work, then we should basically be digging trenches. And it’s hard to act that way if the polls keep showing what they do.
A better analogy is this: You’ve put in a lot of work, and things look good. But the game isn’t over. You’d better be acting like you’re playing the New England Patriots. Love ‘em or hate ‘em, they will do everything they can until the clock runs out to win.
re: #126 Belafon
Or, don’t spike the ball at the one yard line.
re: #127 Shropshire Slasher
Or, don’t spike the ball at the one yard line.
Even if you’re ahead, for sure.
re: #128 Belafon
Even if you’re ahead, for sure.
“Ahead” needs to be defined as Trump out and at least a balance in the legislature. I guess I sound cynical to say the polls are dead to me. We just need to win. This election and next.
I hate Trump with the heat of a thousand Siriuses (and I mean the star).
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— Tykn.tech (@Tykn_tech) October 22, 2018
Sadly, these are the kind of people .@realDonaldTrump wants to turn away from the United States. They will just take their talents to other, more welcoming countries. https://t.co/fmCj5zQTwv
— Wheat-dogg- more stable, more genius than Trumptor (@liguy743) October 22, 2018
re: #126 Belafon
I finally realized what I hate about the “Act like you’re down by ten points” idea. If we’re down by ten points after all this work, then we should basically be digging trenches.
A much better (and more accurate) expression would be, “Work like you’re within the margin of error and need to make sure the election isn’t close enough to steal”
re: #130 wheat-dogg
I hate Trump with the heat of a thousand Siriuses (and I mean the star).
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Although there wasn’t such thing as official refugee status during the Potato Famine years of 1845-1850’s, my Nana’s maternal grandfather was such a person. He was born in Galway or Mayo not long before or after the Famine hit Ireland. He left with his parents and two younger brothers. He lived first in Johnstown, Pa, later in Cleveland, Oh where he met Second Great Nana, and where my Nana’s mother was born, and later Pittsburgh, Pa where he died in 1905. He worked as an Iron Pudler. He’s not famous and we don’t even know his exact date of birth or have a photograph but I too am descended from refugees. And some nearly 165 years after my second great grandfather came to this country not speaking any English, I welcome today’s refugees.
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Reading from the big book of teaching your kitteh to use a scratching post, dammit.
Good morning!
re: #129 Unshaken Defiance
“Ahead” needs to be defined as Trump out and at least a balance in the legislature. I guess I sound cynical to say the polls are dead to me. We just need to win. This election and next.
Our first game is the elections. After that, the next goal is neutralizing and exposing Trump. Then 2020. There are lots of things we have to accomplish, but there are some big things that need to be focused on one at a time.
Why cutting off aid to Central American countries is 50 shades of bad:
Critics of Trump’s ongoing cuts to Central American assistance fear that less U.S. engagement in the region risks aggravating the problems that encouraged migration in the first place.
Last month, Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez told Reuters that cuts in U.S. aid would make it harder to stem illegal immigration.
Escalating crime and violence, and a surge in unaccompanied children in 2014 at the U.S. border, prompted the two previous U.S. administrations to increase funding, including equipment, training and other assistance to the region.
That aid was conditioned on El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala showing progress on issues such as human smuggling, drug trafficking and dissuading citizens from migrating illegally to the United States.
Today, U.S. retreat from the region has opened the door to Trump’s trade adversary China to establish a firmer foothold. In August, El Salvador broke off diplomatic ties with Taiwan in favor of China, citing economic reasons. Panama did so in 2017.
There is no long-range strategy from this administration. It’s just verbal ejaculations from the Man-Baby to boost his ratings with his base. He might just as well tell China to annex Central America and put a naval base in Panama. It would save a lot of time and energy.
re: #132 HappyWarrior
Although there wasn’t such thing as official refugee status during the Potato Famine years of 1845-1850’s, my Nana’s maternal grandfather was such a person. He was born in Galway or Mayo not long before or after the Famine hit Ireland. He left with his parents and two younger brothers. He lived first in Johnstown, Pa, later in Cleveland, Oh where he met Second Great Nana, and where my Nana’s mother was born, and later Pittsburgh, Pa where he died in 1905. He worked as an Iron Pudler. He’s not famous and we don’t even know his exact date of birth or have a photograph but I too am descended from refugees. And some nearly 165 years after my second great grandfather came to this country not speaking any English, I welcome today’s refugees.
Three of my grandparents were essentially economic refugees from Sweden. They came from the rural areas, when making a living farming the land was nearly impossible. IOW they were poor. Of my colonial ancestors’ motivations, I know nothing, but I can guess they came to the American colonies for religious freedom (Quakers and Baptists among them) and for better farmland. The Lenni Lenape, otoh, were probably not very happy about it.
re: #137 wheat-dogg
Three of my grandparents were essentially economic refugees from Sweden. They came from the rural areas, when making a living farming the land was nearly impossible. IOW they were poor. Of my colonial ancestors’ motivations, I know nothing, but I can guess they came to the American colonies for religious freedom (Quakers and Baptists among them) and for better farmland. The Lenni Lenape, otoh, were probably not very happy about it.
I just wish more Americans especially white ones would be aware of stuff ilke this. It’s in a way part of why I do genealogical research because it reminds people that we all started somewhere.
re: #138 HappyWarrior
I just wish more Americans especially white ones would be aware of stuff ilke this. It’s in a way part of why I do genealogical research because it reminds people that we all started somewhere.
That Amy Mek person on Twitter was ranting about how immigrants were bad, etc., etc., without once realizing her own people had to have come from somewhere besides North America. It just pisses me off. If the Native Americans had been in a position to block immigration back in the early 1800s, or earlier, she and a wide swath of the current US population would simply have not been born, here or anywhere.
re: #139 wheat-dogg
That Amy Mek person on Twitter was ranting about how immigrants were bad, etc., etc., without once realizing her own people had to have come from somewhere besides North America. It just pisses me off. If the Native Americans had been in a position to block immigration back in the early 1800s, or earlier, she and a wide swath of the current US population would simply have not been born, here or anywhere.
Exactly. There’s no self awareness at all. Or my favorite is “Mine did it legally.” First off, you don’t know that, secondly for much of history, there was no legal or illegal immigration, it was just immigration and nativists opposed it all the same especially if the people weren’t white or Protestant of British origins.
re: #24 sagehen
We bought the season on Amazon. Excited to see the latest episode tonight!
JFC
Van Jones interview Kushner at “Citizen by CNN” event starting now. Jones asks, “How did you get this job? You have like the dopest job in the world, the secretary of everything…how did you wind up in this position?”
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) October 22, 2018
Caravan = Reichstag Fire. “Must change laws.” Got it. #resist
— yntbe (@yntbe) October 22, 2018
re: #142 The Vicious Babushka
JFC
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“Nepotism. Pure, unfiltered, high octane nepotism.”
Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018
Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws! Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018
Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018
and AP ain’t helping matters with shit like “ragtag army”:
PHOTO GALLERY: Central American migrants march through Mexico like a ragtag army of the poor, shouting triumphant slogans like “Yes, we could!” Photos by @moises1975 https://t.co/Kgs1W1StLV
— The Associated Press (@AP) October 21, 2018
re: #142 The Vicious Babushka
JFC
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“Don’t say by fucking the President’s daughter.”
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
The caravan is just voting early in the 2018 election.
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
Cutting off the foreign aid will make it harder for them to stop people.
“Unknown Middle Easterners”?
Also, “National Emergy”?! https://t.co/cERZ75paOR— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) October 22, 2018
Stupid narcissists who pathologically lie do not get to tell us what to think. It’s time to flush every Trump enabler from Congress.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 22, 2018
What makes me sick is seeing all the Trumpettes wanting Trump to issue shoot to kill orders for the caravan.
re: #142 The Vicious Babushka
JFC
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“Well, I got this job because we live in a society where Donald Trump’s not allowed to marry his own daughter.” https://t.co/DAXXSVCPuc
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) October 22, 2018
re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹
What makes me sick is seeing all the Trumpettes wanting Trump to issue shoot to kill orders for the caravan.
If that actually happened, Chuck Todd, the NYTimes editorial board, and all the other beltway blatherers would be asking whether or not it qualified as a “win.”
re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth
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One’s driving a caravan filled with rapists who look like ordinary families. But every last one of them is a rapist. Including the babies. They’re rapists too. Teeny tiny rapists.
One’s determined to stop them however covfefe he can.
Nash Emergy.
Fridays, this Fall on CBS.— Hayden Black (@haydenblack) October 22, 2018
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018
Sadly, Mexico’s military and police are unwilling to stop people from traveling freely within the country. They could handle this in Russia! We need new laws! Papers, please!
re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth
Mostly, “not bang his own daughter.”
and why was that again, jar https://t.co/PAEZ5nROKT
— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) October 22, 2018
Exclusive: Surveillance footage shows Saudi operative in Jamal Khashoggi’s clothes in Istanbul after the journalist was killed, Turkish source says https://t.co/8zebM7xHSO pic.twitter.com/XG0XFqeh2T
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) October 22, 2018
re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #142 The Vicious Babushka
Van Jones interview Kushner at “Citizen by CNN” event starting now. Jones asks, “How did you get this job? You have like the dopest job in the world, the secretary of everything…how did you wind up in this position?”
Reminder: Van Jones is the one who, on three separate occasions, said “today Donald Trump truly became the president”
(the occasions being when Trump stuck to the script when reading a prepared speech from a teleprompter, speaking in full sentences and pronouncing all the words correctly. I believe that’s what George W Bush would describe as “the soft bigotry of low expectations”. )
re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Putin’s crew looks at that ruse and laughs, “amateurs”.
Oh, good morning!
Is this a @BetoORourke rally? Nope - it’s a massive crowd of Texans in Montgomery County waiting in line to vote early. #VoteWithBeto
pic.twitter.com/uMaaADw5kD— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) October 22, 2018
re: #156 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
National Emergy
Must change laws!
What laws, Donnie?
re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹
What makes me sick is seeing all the Trumpettes wanting Trump to issue shoot to kill orders for the caravan.
Pro-life
Regardless of the motivations of the people marching toward the “souther border” of the USA, they have collectively embarrassed Trump before the entire world. Now, he is in the position of publicly denying thousands of men, women and children from seeking asylum according to international and US federal laws and regulations. Even his tiny pea brain must recognize he’s now in a bind, and these caravan people are going to call his bluff. He’s railing at everyone else for creating this problem, when the sole cause is Donald J. Trump (and his Rasputin, Stephen Miller). And if he does authorize deadly force, I think even the GOP will dump him.
His tweets, meanwhile, are building up a hell of a case for an impeachment bill.
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws! Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally.
— Donald J. Trump
Who came here legally?
Morning all!
You know what’s fun?
Waking up to a boil-water notice! Whee!
Yup. A million people are boiling water in Austin to make coffee, rinse the dishes, and brush their teeth. As to the why, there is is so much shit and silt in the water being released from Lake Travis and moving down the Colorado R. to the sea, that it has overcome the ability of the City of Austin’s water treatment plants to get it into the system with a guarantee of purity. So, boil it.
It’s a tremendous pain in the ass.
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
If they’re seeking asylum, they came here legally.
Donny seems to be trading on the national amnesia that allows voters to forget that he and his buddies tried to pass an “immigration reform” law that would have included massive cuts to “legal” immigration to this country.
re: #170 Belafon
If they’re seeking asylum, they came here legally.
Can’t expect Trump who doesn’t know or have anyone who knows about immigration law to know that fine detail.
So, this is funny, but prob NSFW.
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re: #171 Targetpractice
Donny seems to be trading on the national amnesia that allows voters to forget that he and his buddies tried to pass an “immigration reform” law that would have included massive cuts to “legal” immigration to this country.
Yep, RAISE Act. Sponsored by Tom Cotton and David Perdue.
lol good montage of Lyin Ted and Russian Don crapping on each other. pic.twitter.com/IAfHJGWmqk
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 22, 2018
re: #166 wheat-dogg
And if he does authorize deadly force, I think even the GOP will dump him.
Nope. Lindsey “I do declare” Graham will go on an unhinged, spittle-flecked rant about how trump/the shooters have “nothing to apologize for” and are the real victims e_e
re: #173 wheat-dogg
So, this is funny, but prob NSFW.
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this one, too…
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re: #176 Interesting Times
I think a lot of people will get seriously appalled at a dead mother and child.
re: #171 Targetpractice
Donny seems to be trading on the national amnesia that allows voters to forget that he and his buddies tried to pass an “immigration reform” law that would have included massive cuts to “legal” immigration to this country.
“They should come here legally”.
Who should or can come here legally?
“No one, except the very Smart people, only the very best, just like our Statue says, Send us your very Best.”
Whoa. This is the line for early voting in #Houston. Literally people camped out last night so they could be among the first to vote. “This is one of the most important elections of our lifetimes,” Cody Pogue tells me pic.twitter.com/swtTEmcjcZ
— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) October 22, 2018
re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Is this the line for early voting, or the Trump rally in Houston?
So confused…
She was 14 when she joined the Dutch resistance, though with her long, dark hair in braids she looked at least two years younger.
When she rode her bicycle down the streets of Haarlem in North Holland, firearms hidden in a basket, Nazi officials rarely stopped to question her. When she walked through the woods, serving as a lookout or seductively leading her SS target to a secluded place, there was little indication that she carried a handgun and was preparing an execution.
The Dutch resistance was widely believed to be a man’s effort in a man’s war. If women were involved, the thinking went, they were likely doing little more than handing out anti-German pamphlets or newspapers.
Yet Freddie Oversteegen and her sister Truus, two years her senior, were rare exceptions — a pair of teenage women who took up arms against Nazi occupiers and Dutch “traitors” on the outskirts of Amsterdam. With Hannie Schaft, a onetime law student with fiery red hair, they sabotaged bridges and rail lines with dynamite, shot Nazis while riding their bikes, and donned disguises to smuggle Jewish children across the country and sometimes out of concentration camps.
One of their excuses for why they didn’t collude with Russia is that they weren’t organized enough. https://t.co/C4f4E465Rn
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) October 22, 2018
Going through Trump speeches to update our database. He tells audiences the opioid bill passed “very little Democrat support.” The vote was 98 to 1, with only Utah Sen. Mike Lee (R) opposing it. The House passed it 393 to 8. Even a rare bipartisan achievement can’t be celebrated?
— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) October 21, 2018
re: #183 William Lewis
Antifa, before antifa was even a “movement”.
re: #183 William Lewis
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This isn’t a national emergency. An insane, racist, alt-President is a national emergency.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 22, 2018
re: #122 Shropshire Slasher
DOW low in 2009 was 6443.27. Today it’s 25,444.34. You gotta be in it to win it.
The experts always say that you cannot time the market. The market was 14,164.53 on October 9, 2007. Those of us who were employed and had money in our 401(k) lost 55% of our investment. I could wait it out, but a market increase from 14,164 to 25,444 over 11 years is far less dramatic, an average growth of only 5.5%; and there’s no guarantee that courtesy of Trump trade wars or Trump inspired global instability the market could not crash again. When the market crashed in the 1970’s, it took 10 years to recover.
The Japanese market reached a height of over 38,000 in 1989; it plummeted and has never reached that level again; today it’s about 22,600.
Weird enough I’d try it. I’ll have to drive to her bar in Nashville though, once I’m back in the States.
Tequila, green chartreuse, lime, fatalii pepper syrup, and thyme infused absinthe
— Dancing Bean (@IsARealGal) October 22, 2018
Context: the drink is green btw
Can’t believe I get to have an original cocktail on the menu at my bar tomorrow night!! :-) also can’t believe I created something so tasty!!!
— Dancing Bean (@IsARealGal) October 20, 2018
re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹
What makes me sick is seeing all the Trumpettes wanting Trump to issue shoot to kill orders for the caravan.
The one argument that provokes our brother is a comparison of the caravan or similar effort to the St. Louis in 1939. My brother’s position is that it was wrong for us to reject the ship — but it’s totally right for us to reject people fleeing for their lives from instability in South America. It always comes down to — our people good, their people bad.
re: #187 wheat-dogg
Antifa, before antifa was even a “movement”.
Funny you should mention that..
On Saturday we went to the Newseum in DC, and they had an exhibit that was a few sections of the actual Berlin Wall, along with one of the watchtowers. And what graffiti was sprayed on the watchtower, you ask?
re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter
The one argument that provokes our brother is a comparison of the caravan or similar effort to the St. Louis in 1939. My brother’s position is that it was wrong for us to reject the ship — but it’s totally right for us to reject people fleeing for their lives from instability in South America. It always comes down to — our people good, their people bad.
Tell him that they used the same logic in 1939 because the Jewish people weren’t seen as “our people.”
re: #183 William Lewis
This would make a fantastic movie.
re: #196 plansbandc
This would make a fantastic movie.
It really would. There’s so many unsung heroes of WWII whose stories should be told.
I’m not a gambling man but I’d bet there are more criminals affiliated with the Trump Administration than in the caravan of 4,000 migrants south of our border.
— Nathan H. Rubin (@NathanHRubin) October 20, 2018
I promised some photos from our DC trip, so here they are.
Behind the button so as to save space…
There were lawn signs with MLK quotes all over the place in the neighborhood where we stayed.
Anti-Kavanaugh street art (there was a lot of that, too):
One of the buildings we were not allowed into.
Nope, not allowed in there, either.
WWII Memorial fountain
This one’s kinda postcard-y…
Big Abe…
Indeed.
Sorry for the sideways ones.
re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth
who you gonna believe, our MAGA Donny or the lamestream press or congressional voting records?
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Reports from all over Texas: In Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Fort Worth, Austin, The Valley, Lubbock, etc., wait times are 30 minutes to an hour at traditionally empty polling places #TXSen #txlege #EarlyVoting
— Scott Braddock (@scottbraddock) October 22, 2018
re: #200 Sir John Barron
who you gonna believe, our MAGA Donny or the lamestream press or congressional voting records?
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You know even with that on record, the Trumpers will still go “No, Democrats opposed that bill, Trump said so!” That’s what Trump does. He creates false realities by lying and never ever admitting to having being wrong. It’s why his supporters are so deranged against the media and Democrats because Trump is always right.
re: #127 Shropshire Slasher
Or, don’t spike the ball at the one yard line.
re: #126 Belafon
Over the years, I’ve heard too many people argue that their one vote doesn’t matter. People have to learn that every vote is critical — that we must fight to persuade Americans that the survival of this country is at stake and their vote is crucial to preserve our democracy. If only the Bernie Bros could somehow understand that their votes for Jill (or anyone other than Hillary) gave us Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.
The knock-on effects of a boil-water notice in a system that serves > 1,000,000 people are…interesting:
No soda dispensers that use syrup. No misters can be used in grocery stores. Restaurants are having to figure out how to prepare food. Bars can’t make mixed drinks that use water or mixers that are water based.
Weird.
re: #201 jaunte
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re: #176 Interesting Times
Nope. Lindsey “I do declare” Graham will go on an unhinged, spittle-flecked rant about how trump/the shooters have “nothing to apologize for” and are the real victims e_e
The bigger problem, IMHO, is how many Border Patrol agents would be willing, even eager, to carry out such an order.
re: #199 makeitstop
I promised some photos from our DC trip, so here they are.
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The memorial fountain looks likes it’s giving you the finger.
Beto is a star. I really hope he runs for president someday.
Just now .@BetoORourke arriving just before early voting starts at the Metropolitan Multi-Services Center in #Houston pic.twitter.com/igvr2Sutce
— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) October 22, 2018
re: #208 makeitstop
Beto is a star. I really hope he runs for president someday.
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re: #208 makeitstop
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It will be difficult for him to do that unless he pulls off the upset in November. Now Gillum, otoh, looks like he is going to win a governor’s race in a swing state. He might make a great VP candidate for the next nominee.
Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018
“Unknown middle easterners.” Cmon man. These are supposed to be dog whistles https://t.co/V96nl4zaKr
— Sam Stein (@samstein) October 22, 2018
And with all the vast infrastructure of right wing “newsgathering” they haven’t found a single middle-easterner in a high-school-sized crowd of people on foot.
re: #212 Shropshire Slasher
Quit giving away the GOP plan, dude.
Trump was the first to get away with dispensing with the dog-whistles, writing off all reasonable people, to pander directly to his bigoted supporters. “Deplorables” was too kind to these scumbags.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 22, 2018
re: #211 jaunte
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Saudi rendition team?
re: #215 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Kashoggi’s body double?
re: #212 Shropshire Slasher
Vote early and vote often.
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I am a native Chicagoan and that has always been my motto!
re: #215 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Miniature Saudi Rendition Ninjas disguised as Honduran first-graders.
This is fucking great. I wanna go vote right now.
Who’s ready to make history? This video was epic. #15Days
pic.twitter.com/A2K5b88dKr— David Yankovich (@DavidYankovich) October 22, 2018
re: #219 makeitstop
This is fucking great. I wanna go vote right now.
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See, in normal times, one would totally dismiss this as an out-there conspiracy theory. Now, however? *sigh*…
Please note — I have no hard evidence; this is just chatter at this point.
With that said, the timing is suspicious.
Couple this with his determined use of the issue as a campaign wedge (along with the Right-Wing Media outlets playing along), one certainly has to wonder.— Nathan H. Rubin (@NathanHRubin) October 22, 2018
Heading to the courthouse to vote. Record turnouts all over Texas. This bodes well.
re: #221 Interesting Times
See, in normal times, one would totally dismiss this as an out-there conspiracy theory. Now, however? *sigh*…
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And there’s your October Surprise, right there.
If they’re 3000 miles away and walking toward the border, when will they arrive? A day or two before the elections, maybe?
All they need do is provoke some violence and they’re all set.
re: #223 makeitstop
Damn CIA and drug Cartel stirring up the Guatemalans.
apropos of nothing that’s going on
yesterday i had an absolutely sublime 207 minute run (20-21 miles or so)
there were no after-effects - no aches, pains, cramps, blisters.
only the normal fatigue that comes with exercising for 3 1/2 hours
and i was able to get up this morning on time and run a normal 62 minutes
(yes there is something wrong with me)
re: #221 Interesting Times
I can’t see the parent tweet. What’s the conspiracy?
re: #227 Belafon
I can’t see the parent tweet. What’s the conspiracy?
@NathanHRubin
4h4 hours ago
“Some very reliable sources are telling me Trump is literally funding the migrant caravan. People are saying it’s a ploy to juice up his base ahead of midterms. Fear-mongering for votes. Sad!”
re: #228 Interesting Times
I’m 99% certain that’s false because Trump doesn’t fund anything. Now, if it had said that Trump promised to fund it, I might believe it.
But that actually shouldn’t be hard for reporters to figure out.
re: #229 Belafon
I’m 99% certain that’s false because Trump doesn’t fund anything.
Agree, though one could always claim his sugar-daddies foreign & domestic (Adelson, Putin, Mohammad Bone Sawman) could do it for him.
My larger point, however, is that things are so craptastic the unthinkable becomes believable.
re: #229 Belafon
I’m 99% certain that’s false because Trump doesn’t fund anything. Now, if it had said that Trump promised to fund it, I might believe it.
But that actually shouldn’t be hard for reporters to figure out.
But that doesn’t mean some white supremacist ally of Trump couldn’t fund it! Or Mitch McConnell or …. There’s a host of Trump supporters who have money — even Putin.
re: #230 Interesting Times
Agree, though one could always claim his sugar-daddies foreign & domestic (Adelson, Putin, Mohammad Bone Sawman) could do it for him.
My larger point, however, is that things are so craptastic the unthinkable becomes believable.
True, but there’s always a tendency to for the opposition to be way more suceptible to any conspiracy theory. There was a high belief that GWB was going to run for a third term. Now, this guy definitely makes them more possible than others, but I think, in this case, that Trump is just doing his usual taking advantage of brown-skinned people walking in the same direction.
re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter
But that doesn’t mean some white supremacist ally of Trump couldn’t fund it! Or Mitch McConnell or …. There’s a host of Trump supporters who have money — even Putin.
If they were being funded, though, why would they have needed the money from shop owners?
And the last I’d heard, they were sleeping on rail lines and hadn’t made it into Mexico.
re: #230 Interesting Times
Agree, though one could always claim his sugar-daddies foreign & domestic (Adelson, Putin, Mohammad Bone Sawman) could do it for him.
My larger point, however, is that things are so craptastic the unthinkable becomes believable.
I don’t think you need to invoke a conspiracy theory to explain something that has been happening annually for almost a decade. As for the timing, it may just be that fall is better weather for traveling across several countries on foot than the middle of summer.
re: #228 Interesting Times
@NathanHRubin
4h4 hours ago“Some very reliable sources are telling me Trump is literally funding the migrant caravan. People are saying it’s a ploy to juice up his base ahead of midterms. Fear-mongering for votes. Sad!”
It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
re: #236 Sir John Barron
It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
It makes me extremely skeptical of of that particular speculator, and everybody around him. I try to avoid bullshit of all flavors.
If we are going to get into conspiracies…wouldn’t it be funny if Mexico announces all the people in “The Caravan™” were accepted as Mexican citizens and the caravan was over.
And to add to the announcement, say Mexico is doing it to prevent the people from being abused by Trump/America.
Yes, Mexico is protecting immigrants from going to America to be abused.
re: #238 ObserverArt
They certainly can claim asylum there.
failed capitalist Charlie Kirk embraces socialism, lives rent free with parents in luxurious million dollar suburban home, FEC documents reveal https://t.co/dUkjQtY0sd
— Nathan Bernard (@nathanTbernard) October 22, 2018
re: #240 makeitstop
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failed capitalist Charlie Kirk embraces socialism, lives rent free with parents in luxurious million dollar suburban home, FEC documents reveal
Don’t you know — if your family is wealthy, you are entitled to that money; you’ve earned that money by being their child. It’s entirely the fault of poor people that they didn’t have the wisdom or intelligence to be born to someone wealthy. ///
re: #241 Hecuba’s daughter
Don’t you know — if your family is wealthy, you are entitled to that money; you’ve earned that money by being their child. It’s entirely the fault of poor people that they didn’t have the wisdom or intelligence to be born to someone wealthy. ///
John Adams had a word or two to say in disagreement to that. As did Tom Paine.
re: #242 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)
John Adams had a word or two to say in disagreement to that. As did Tom Paine.
It is very frustrating when the reaction of Republicans to my contention that no matter their economic background, every child deserves good health care, a good education, food and shelter is the question of “Who’s going to pay for it?” After all, you cannot expect the “overtaxed” job creators to spend money helping others.
re: #242 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)
John Adams had a word or two to say in disagreement to that. As did Tom Paine.
As did Andrew Carnegie.
What at the time he said that, was the richest man in the world.
“Shock report: US paying more for illegal immigrant births than Trump’s wall” https://t.co/FX3ljN7kPS
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018
Yet another racist garbage report from the white supremacist-linked Center for Immigration Studies. https://t.co/lbcr43VKX9
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 22, 2018
re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter
But that doesn’t mean some white supremacist ally of Trump couldn’t fund it! Or Mitch McConnell or …. There’s a host of Trump supporters who have money — even Putin.
Erik Prince.
Has not just the money, but the organizational know-how. And wants very much for a Republican Congress to be in place to approve whatever ridiculous privatized-fighting Afghanistan plans Trump has previously talked about.
Republicans: We value the presumption of innocence.
Also Republicans: 7,000 brown people marching on foot for a better life? They must be criminals and Middle Eastern terrorists.— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) October 22, 2018
As Ted Cruz’s first term comes to a close, he might as well have not been in Congress at all, writes @cd_hooks: https://t.co/yRZIB0lzBR #txsen
— The Texas Observer (@TexasObserver) October 22, 2018
re: #248 jaunte
Another Due Process Week is off to a very bad start.
re: #245 Charles Johnson
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Er, obvious question: wasn’t Mexico supposed to pay for it, which would render that outrage comparison completely irrelevant, wouldn’t it? Oh, wait a sec….
The Center for Immigration Studies is a hate group, literally founded by white supremacists. It’s beyond disgusting that any media outlets would cite their “work” without featuring this information prominently.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 22, 2018
How Newt helped wreck our infrastructure:
“…More than ranching and wildcatting, pork-barrel politics built modern Texas. Federal tax money helped build the Houston Ship Channel, finished the dams that electrified the Hill Country and helped prevent flooding from the Trinity River. The feds planted NASA here, turning Houston into Space City; they also built up the University of Texas’ advanced research capabilities to make Austin a tech powerhouse. They opened and continually expanded military bases in the state. The list goes on and on.”
…
“…After that year’s [1994] Gingrich revolution, it became more important to take a strong stand in the national culture war than to represent your state or district.Cruz is the perfection of that trend. His most visible act since the end of his presidential campaign is helping to convince Donald Trump to pardon Dinesh D’Souza. Meanwhile, public projects like the Ike Dike, which Houstonians say the city needs in order to survive, go unbuilt. The congressional delegation can’t even secure the money to adequately dredge the ship channel.”
texasobserver.org
Republicans: We’ll say whatever is convenient to say at any given moment. Reality does not matter to the party’s rube-base.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 22, 2018
it’s camp of the saints roleplay about a group of people that could fit in the corner of a small subdivision outside omaha
— chris “death” hooks (@cd_hooks) October 22, 2018
re: #245 Charles Johnson
“Shock report: US paying more for cotton candy than Trump’s wall.”
A bright spot in the at-times shitty rough spots I’ve been experiencing over the last 18 months: our solar panels are now operational. I can literally power my car and Youtube boxer puppy video searches with the sun.
re: #249 jaunte
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re: #252 Charles Johnson
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The Washington Examiner isn’t a media outlet. It’s a propaganda shop that’s also happens to produce a decent quality bird cage liner.
re: #259 Weaselone
The Washington Examiner isn’t a media outlet. It’s a propaganda shop that’s also happens to produce a decent quality bird cage liner.
More valuable than a wingnut blog then. Having to print your own blog cage-liners for birds to poop on is too much hassle.
re: #228 Interesting Times
@NathanHRubin
4h4 hours ago“Some very reliable sources are telling me Trump is literally funding the migrant caravan. People are saying it’s a ploy to juice up his base ahead of midterms. Fear-mongering for votes. Sad!”
I have no trouble believing that.
re: #27 jaunte
Trump keeps pointing at Venezuela as an example of socialism, when what actually wrecked Venezuela was crony capitalism and corrupt courts. Chavez just stuck a leftist-populist label on the same cultural bad habits.
And a big, much-overlooked part of the meltdown, was the INSANE level of debt. It wasn’t enough that oil had gone above $100/bbl. in the early 2000s. No, dipshit corrupt bastards had to leverage the shit out of that by selling off “oil futures” to get money now now NOW that they could then spread just a *little* bit to their supporters to buy loyalty …
… while keeping the vast majority of the borrowed money for themselves and their cronies.
If this sounds like what’s happening in the U.S., well, you’re right.
Long term, if the GOP holds both houses and Trump wins in 2020, we will be looking at Venezuela debt levels, and the reduction of the dollar to being worth less than a square of toilet paper.