Seth takes a closer look at Trump’s speech about the government shutdown and the deal he offered that both Democrats and hard- line conservatives have rejected.
There was a huge effort to portray the Covington Catholic kids as totally innocent and it’s working. I’m sick.
moron
Former FBI top lawyer James Baker just admitted involvement in FISA Warrant and further admitted there were IRREGULARITIES in the way the Russia probe was handled. They relied heavily on the unverified Trump “Dossier” paid for by the DNC & Clinton Campaign, & funded through a…
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 22, 2019
…big Crooked Hillary law firm, represented by her lawyer Michael Sussmann (do you believe this?) who worked Baker hard & gave him Oppo Research for “a Russia probe.” This meeting, now exposed, is the subject of Senate inquiries and much more. An Unconstitutional Hoax. @FoxNews
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 22, 2019
This is a typical Trump move. Opinion polls show he’s getting hammered on the shutdown, so he finds a culture war battle to fight as a distraction for his base. Let’s see if the media covers it that way.
— Gary Legum (@GaryLegum) January 22, 2019
re: #1 HappyWarrior
There was a huge effort to portray the Covington Catholic kids as totally innocent and it’s working. I’m sick.
They got the hottest GOP PR agency in the country onto it and they know how to manipulate media and public opinion.
re: #1 HappyWarrior
There was a huge effort to portray the Covington Catholic kids as totally innocent and it’s working. I’m sick.
“Trump knows a controversy tailor-made for his base when he sees one. And this gives us an opportunity to step back and consider what function a conflict such as this serves in our current political atmosphere.
The reaction to this incident has moved through a few stages: an initial liberal outrage; a conservative backlash premised on the idea that the initial reaction was based on a misreading of the situation; a media mea culpa that itself seems based on little to no evidence that they actually got anything wrong in the first place; and now a backlash to the backlash as liberals assert that the media is being pressured and manipulated by a right wing practiced at this sort of thing.”
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When are you sitting down with Nathan Phillips or is he irrelevant to your white boy redemption tour https://t.co/2W9025Ei6w
— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) January 22, 2019
This is not my beautiful mouse
This is not my beautiful knife pic.twitter.com/GysBM5WCnA— Chris Worthington (@SomeChrisTweets) July 19, 2018
re: #1 HappyWarrior
There was a huge effort to portray the Covington Catholic kids as totally innocent and it’s working. I’m sick.
Going with Josh on this one. We have bigger fish to fry than this ffs.
How are we possibly on day four of this story? It would be healthy for people to realize that evaluating the moral behavior of specific private individuals (minors! in this instance) is not a matter the national public needs to address. We don’t need a conclusion on who’s right. https://t.co/0rnyFwTJT1
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) January 22, 2019
McConnell again blocks a unanimous consent request from Kaine to pass a DHS funding bill
— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) January 22, 2019
re: #8 bd(it’s all true)
Going with Josh on this one. We have bigger fish to fry than this ffs.
How are we possibly on day four of this story? It would be healthy for people to realize that evaluating the moral behavior of specific private individuals (minors! in this instance) is not a matter the national public needs to address. We don’t need a conclusion on who’s right.
There is, however, the issue of the school and its administrators, its history of tolerating racist behavior in public from its students, and its choice of chaperones to this protest event…
re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth
Former FBI top lawyer James Baker just admitted involvement in FISA Warrant and further admitted there were IRREGULARITIES in the way the Russia probe was handled.
So you don’t dispute any of the probe’s findings?
Austin couple beaten unconscious for sexual orientation
An Austin couple said they are lucky to be alive after they were violently attacked in downtown.
The two men were hospitalized over the weekend after they were beaten unconscious, they said, because of their sexual orientation.
There were 5 assailants. Austin needs to build a wall…….to keep out the yokels.
re: #13 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Austin couple beaten unconscious for sexual orientation
There were 5 assailants. Austin needs to build a wall…….to keep out the yokels.
Trump won’t be acknowledging them.
Of course. Trump never misses an opportunity to grift from the right wing grievance machine, and it’s also a good distraction from the fact that he’s failing everywhere. pic.twitter.com/yfU3neV32C
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
Now watch as the rest of the media covers this with absolutely no context. I can hardly wait. https://t.co/Gs9ODogvwv
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
The right wing media are going to do their best to turn these bigoted little shits into heroes, and the rest of the media will just nod along.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
re: #8 bd(it’s all true)
Going with Josh on this one. We have bigger fish to fry than this ffs.
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Right.
Bevin weighs in on the Covington Catholic debacle
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In a world where we have a wealth of information at our fingertips, we have increasingly little discernment and wisdom…
Facts matter…The truth matters…Context matters…
A little more genuine caring for one another and a little less digital vitriol would be good for all..— Governor Matt Bevin (@GovMattBevin) January 22, 2019
Bevin made this statement directly after tweeting that “there are none more intolerant than liberals who don’t like your options, values, faith beliefs, political stance”
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) January 22, 2019
re: #1 HappyWarrior
There was a huge effort to portray the Covington Catholic kids as totally innocent and it’s working. I’m sick.
The right loves the victimhood complex, that was bound to happen among their ranks.
re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth
Bevin weighs in on the Covington Catholic debacle
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Bevin can go fuck himself.
re: #18 Myron Falwell
The right loves the victimhood complex, that was bound to happen among their ranks.
Yep. Sure is.
re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth
In a world where we have a wealth of information at our fingertips, we have increasingly little discernment and wisdom…
Facts matter…The truth matters…Context matters…
A little more genuine caring for one another and a little less digital vitriol would be good for all..
— Governor Matt Bevin
sweet fancy moses
re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth
Bevin weighs in on the Covington Catholic debacle
*THUD*
Obviously he didn’t write the second tweet.
re: #18 Myron Falwell
The right loves the victimhood complex, that was bound to happen among their ranks.
The grievance politics and tribal politics comes hardest from the right wing. It’s so much projection when they claim that the left is into identity politics, but the reality is that so much of what the GOP stands for is about making sure that one specific group benefits to the detriment of all others - white guys.
The problem is that the shutdown is now entering Day N, where N can be kept up with by a computer. The underage racist is way more interesting for the media.
Democrats should start making a spectacle out of filing a bill that McConnell will block. Every bill should have some name like “Fighting Undesirable and Corrosive Kompromat.”
re: #20 HappyWarrior
Yep. Sure is.
If they physically assaulted Nathan Phillips, the response from them wouldn’t change at all.
re: #15 Charles Johnson
So, did DJT respond by saying how there are good people on both sides of this confrontation?
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re: #24 lawhawk
The grievance politics and tribal politics comes hardest from the right wing. It’s so much projection when they claim that the left is into identity politics, but the reality is that so much of what the GOP stands for is about making sure that one specific group benefits to the detriment of all others - white guys.
The right as we know it exists solely due to identity politics. Who claimed for years that we are a Christian nation and then when that was unacceptable tried using Judeo-Christian to hide anti Semitic beliefs?
Wait.
Are you telling me that Chris Cuomo called for Kamala Harris to release her goddamned BIRTH CERTIFICATE?!
What in the everloving fuck.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
re: #29 Charles Johnson
Deleted my original tweet because it was taken literally the opposite way that I intended it. Sen Harris has no duty to justify any such accusation, let alone a birtherism attack. You accuse, you prove. That was my point. Apologize for confusion.
— Christopher C. Cuomo (@ChrisCuomo) January 22, 2019
JFC, the gaslighting is ridiculous
MCCONNNELL: “Is their plan truly to throw federal workers, DACA recipients, customs and border patrol, and indeed all Americans, under the bus just to extend this run of political theater so they can look like champions of the so-called resistance?”
— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) January 22, 2019
re: #27 Sir John Barron
So, did DJT respond by saying how there are good people on both sides of this confrontation?
/
He doesn’t have to. The boys didn’t kill anyone.
re: #29 Charles Johnson
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I am so sick of minority candidates with immigrant parents having to go through this shit. Chris’s Dad Mario didn’t. Neither did Dukakis or Agnew. Cuomo can rightly fuck off.
re: #27 Sir John Barron
So, did DJT respond by saying how there are good people on both sides of this confrontation?
/
No, only on one side, the side wearing the MAGA hats…the rest are hateful, lying, intolerant, vengeful liberal witch-hunters.
re: #33 Scottish Dragon
Yep. Birtherism is back already.
I’m surprised Julian Castro hasn’t gotten any yet.
day 732 of trump: “a new president” who’s just learning the ropes
day 2 of obama: why hasn’t he fixed everything
trayvon: a vicious black thug
covington boys: just innocent young boys in a bad situation
hm, what do they all have in common, hm— Oliver Willis (@owillis) January 22, 2019
The Right Wing - “They’re just kids! Leave them alone!”
So were the Stoneman Douglas High School students.
re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth
JFC, the gaslighting is ridiculous
lol Mitch, you damn well know that your grand compromise — negotiated by no one — is going to get eaten alive in a reconciliation process with the Democratic House CR — that has none of your Trump’s shit — and you’re too chicken to admit it.
re: #36 HappyWarrior
I’m surprised Julian Castro hasn’t gotten any yet.
When they finish with the Fox Border Invasion seminar in San Antonio, it will be his turn.
re: #37 DodgerFan1988
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The Right Wing - “They’re just kids! Leave them alone!”
So were the Stoneman Douglas High School students.
The Stoneman Douglas kids who survived a deadly school shooting are dreaded activists while kids with no skin in the game on abortion going several states away to protest women’s rights are just kids.
re: #30 Kilroy was here
Look at the ratings… Cuomo is being destroyed by Maddow and Lumpy. This is what he has to resort to for relevance and it’s embarrassing beyond belief.
Accurate. https://t.co/1MWxR6CtLZ
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) January 22, 2019
re: #41 Myron Falwell
Look at the ratings… Cuomo is being destroyed by Maddow and Lumpy. This is what he has to resort to for relevance and it’s embarrassing beyond belief.
Yeah it’s pathetic.
Here’s a screen shot:
This tweet from Chris Cuomo aiding the birther 2.0 movement against another black candidate for president, Kamala Harris, was just deleted pic.twitter.com/KmJ3kj7FuU
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) January 22, 2019
This only happens to minority candidates whose parents are immigrants too. Cruz and Rubio got birtherism too. Trump didn’t. Gee but no racism there.
Baby snakes. pic.twitter.com/SHhaXwfwZl
— Jim Carrey (@JimCarrey) January 22, 2019
Mock “the Resistance” all you want McConnell.
That will only help win the senate for them.
Look over at the House, see all those women and members of different color, faith and orientation. That is coming to the Senate to rid it of tired old White farts like you.
“The longer there is no proof either way, the deeper the effect.”
There is NO WAY to call that anything but a validation of a birther argument.
You can find Kamala’s bitth listing indexed in Cali with a quick ancestry.com search.
A clean one pic.twitter.com/NFVRmGY58W
— 🤔Ken Ashford (@KenAshford) January 22, 2019
He just deleted it. pic.twitter.com/aLrX8M64qB
— (((David Lytle))) (@davitydave) January 22, 2019
That is obviously NOT what he meant.
Media talking heads seem intent on both-sidesing this country to death.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
Reminder:
But for McConnell blocking a vote on a clean CR, the government would be funded and those currently furloughed or having to work without paid, would get their paychecks as scheduled.
The shutdown is on Trump and McConnell.
McConnell allowed a vote in December that passed on voice vote - it was 100% approval. When Trump decided to dig in and shut down because he didn’t get the wall, McConnell decided to block any action to cover for Trump, because a clean CR would embarrass Trump.
McConnell has decided it better not to embarrass Trump than make sure that government functions. That means McConnell is a saboteur and extortionist, just as Trump.
If this is the future for minorities with immigrant parents or parent in this country, I weep for my niece & her cousins.
Best infrastructure week ever! pic.twitter.com/FAZWbaUgME
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) January 22, 2019
re: #52 Charles Johnson
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And then they get more angry at you for calling that out than Trump who is hostile to the very idea of a free press.
re: #51 HappyWarrior
He stepped in shit.
I think we can call this type of self-own “ChrisCuomoing yourself.”
I’m pretty sure Ana Navarro is none too thrilled rn.
Too many media reflexes operate on behalf of the cliché that “the truth must lie somewhere in the middle.”
re: #57 Myron Falwell
I think we can call this type of self-own “ChrisCuomoing yourself.”
I’m pretty sure Ana Navarro is none too thrilled rn.
I hope Ana gives him hell.
Bonjour mes amis! 🇫🇷🇩🇪 With the new Treaty of #Aachen, Germany and France intensify their cross-border relations and reaffirm their shared commitment to a united #Europe & rules-based international order. @franceintheus pic.twitter.com/uhWvw8zbiF
— German Embassy (@GermanyinUSA) January 22, 2019
re: #58 jaunte
Too many media reflexes operate on behalf of the cliché that “the truth must lie somewhere in the middle.”
In vain attempts to try to not to be called left or right, they do their damndest to get hated by both. Reality doesn’t play both sides.
You’re not just racist, you’re stupid and racist. I’d be really sad for you if you had any excuse at all, but in this day and age, not doing your research (Kamala was born in Oakland) means you get dragged, deservedly. Deplorable was far too nice for racists like you.
— Don’t Look In The Box Or You Collapse The Waveform (@ShrodingersCake) January 22, 2019
re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth
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The new special relationship. Crossaints and Pretzels living side by side.
re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth
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She was born in the US. Fuck you, you racist little asshole. If she were a white Republican with parents from England and Norway, you’d tout her as a great American story.
Get a dog, they said. It’ll be fun, they said.. pic.twitter.com/6RiA3faRqI
— Welcome To Nature (@welcomet0nature) January 21, 2019
All these conservatives been harassing me and telling me the most disgusting things these past few days.Listen I’m not telling ya to turn liberal all I’m saying is to admit that your president is fuckin up this country right now! Liberal or conservative we ALL suffer as citizens.
— iamcardib (@iamcardib) January 22, 2019
Dinner time for dirtbags. https://t.co/JdmLfHMUDl
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
re: #66 lawhawk
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It’s cool Cardi. It’s not your fault that Tomi Lahren is allergic to facts.
I know who these MAGA kids are. When I was in eighth grade, I was bullied to the point of being suicidal by arrogant jerk kids like these. It’s always the same with them: The smirks, the taunts, the group attacks. Bullies don’t change their tactics.
And now these kids are getting rewarded for their behavior by getting their faces all over TV and going to the White House to meet the President.
Fuck.
Have you ever gotten so damn pissed off by it all you can’t even type any kind of a comment about how pissed off you are?
I’m there, right now.
Alyssa Milano in hot water for telling the truth about white supremacy’s newest status symbol. https://t.co/VraXmHmFAE
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) January 22, 2019
re: #71 Charles Johnson
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She’s not wrong. I haven’t seen someone who wears that hat that isn’t a bigot in someways. The red hat is the 2010’s brown shirt.
Holy fuck does this guy look like a roid rage thug,
Nice Christian values they are teaching at Covington….
KY TV station report about a graduate of this school: Former Covington Catholic basketball player Jacob Walter pinned a woman down Sunday and raped her until she bled. “Walter dismissed the victim by laughing at her & telling her that she would be fine,” https://t.co/tDBwsCI3su
— JusticeToAll ⚖️ (@JusticeToAll) January 22, 2019
re: #68 HappyWarrior
It’s cool Cardi. It’s not you’re fault that Tomi Lahren is allergic to facts.
This is what Cardi B meant when she said she would “dog walk” Toompa Loompa
This is what CardiB meant when she said she would “dog walk” that Fox News gal. #TheResistance #Resist pic.twitter.com/b1mgWKPKRy
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) January 22, 2019
re: #53 lawhawk
Reminder:
But for McConnell blocking a vote on a clean CR, the government would be funded and those currently furloughed or having to work without paid, would get their paychecks as scheduled.
The shutdown is on Trump and McConnell.
McConnell allowed a vote in December that passed on voice vote - it was 100% approval. When Trump decided to dig in and shut down because he didn’t get the wall, McConnell decided to block any action to cover for Trump, because a clean CR would embarrass Trump.
McConnell has decided it better not to embarrass Trump than make sure that government functions. That means McConnell is a saboteur and extortionist, just as Trump.
McConnell right from the start presumed that Schumer and the Democrats would cave, putting Pelosi and the House in an unfavorable position. But it never happened, so this is the only thing he can do.
He’s as immature as Trump is, totally unwilling to allow defeat by any circumstance. Thus, he took a loss and is making it even more and more of a catastrophic defeat.
And the longer this goes on, the deeper the truth of him and the compliant/complicit GOP being saboteurs takes hold. One more missed paycheck on Friday and the ugliness will start to REALLY set in.
re: #52 Charles Johnson
Media talking heads seem intent on both-sidesing this country to death.
They have to keep viewers tuned in. If they presented certain incidents for what they are, they would lose audience and advertising revenues.
re: #72 HappyWarrior
She’s not wrong. I haven’t seen someone who wears that hat that isn’t a bigot in someways. The red hat is the 2010’s brown shirt.
Yeah, I just wish Alyssa didn’t endorse/market merch for Washington’s NFL team… :(
Just paged a story about the atrocities being committed in the refugee camps in Libya.
It is a vision into what happens when desperate people are ignored or spat upon by civilized countries, and left to the non-existent mercies of gangs of criminal thugs who spring up to shear away any last money or resources.
Hidden, because the unsuspecting don’t deserve this kind of nightmare
In the official centers run by the Government of National Accord, HRW witnessed “inhumane conditions that included severe overcrowding, unsanitary conditions, poor quality food and water that has led to malnutrition, lack of adequate health care, and disturbing accounts of violence by guards, including beatings, whippings and the use of electric shocks.”
re: #77 Myron Falwell
Yeah, I just wish Alyssa didn’t endorse/market merch for Washington’s NFL team… :(
Agh why is she a fan of them? A lot of my family are too.
Walter, 18, was arrested Tuesday night and faces three felony charges: One of rape and two of sodomy. He appeared before a Boone County judge Wednesday via a video arraignment.According to the sheriff’s department, Walter repeatedly assaulted and choked the 18-year-old victim, ignoring her pleas to stop. The news release also stated the victim was afraid to have sex with Walter because of his size: He stands 7 feet tall and weighs 300 pounds.
But he’s pro life!
wcpo.com
re: #73 Scottish Dragon
Holy fuck does this guy look like a roid rage thug,
Nice Christian values they are teaching at Covington….
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You can’t tell me that’s not related to the comment made by the one kid about rape that recorded.
re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth
Bonjour mes amis! With the new Treaty of Aachen, Germany and France intensify their cross-border relations and reaffirm their shared commitment to a united Europe & rules-based international order.
My kids were all born in Germany, but moved to France with their mother in 2012. Oldest daughter is doing a bilingual University degree in Lille and Münster.
This treaty means that their school certificates and university diplomas will be mutually recognized and accepted in both countries.
Hooray!!!
re: #74 The Vicious Babushka
This is what Cardi B meant when she said she would “dog walk” Toompa Loompa
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I’d definitely take the one from the Bronx rather than the Fox Safe Space Coulter wannabe.
re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg
I know who these MAGA kids are. When I was in eighth grade, I was bullied to the point of being suicidal by arrogant jerk kids like these. It’s always the same with them: The smirks, the taunts, the group attacks. Bullies don’t change their tactics.
And now these kids are getting rewarded for their behavior by getting their faces all over TV and going to the White House to meet the President.
Fuck.
People should start posting their images at locations with along with “not welcome here”.
If a left wing group were involved in a controversy and issued a statement, and it turned out the statement was cooked up by a high-powered left wing PR firm whose founder is a CNN commentator, the right would drive this story into the headlines for a week, at least.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
“Tune in to the Today Show as we interview the Klansman who set the cross aflame and he tells us of his suffering from the fallout that ensued.”
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) January 22, 2019
No one should treat Savannah Guthrie with any sense of seriousness giving that MAGAt a megaphone.
She’s apparently decided to be as awful as Megyn Kelly without the $69M salary.
re: #85 Charles Johnson
Yeah, our left wing media presence is pretty weak.
re: #85 Charles Johnson
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Dude if someone who worked for that hypothetical PR firm had a spouse or loved one involved in Dem politics, we’d be hearing the Soros whistles. But yeah the fact that the founder of this firm is a CNN commentator and a right wing figure needs to be reported on.
re: #88 Belafon
We have none. We never have.
OT: The manager of my local bar got profiled!
Iggi runs the show at east end pub Redmond’s and loves every day of it – even though he stopped drinking alcohol 24 years ago.https://t.co/jGskrFpar4
— Glasgow Live (@Glasgow_Live) January 21, 2019
re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth
Bevin weighs in on the Covington Catholic debacle
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Bevin made this statement directly after tweeting that “there are none more intolerant than liberals who don’t like your options, values, faith beliefs, political stance”
Like that liberal county registrar in Kentucky who wouldn’t issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
re: #94 Barefoot Grin
Bevin made this statement directly after tweeting that “there are none more intolerant than liberals who don’t like your options, values, faith beliefs, political stance”
Like that liberal county registrar in Kentucky who wouldn’t issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
Intolerant liberals were forcing their views of marriage on her against her beliefs, don’t you see…
How many ways can you say, “Gah?” https://t.co/GsQQ1BqoEt
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
Looks like RunSwitch PR is really working the media refs now.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
re: #94 Barefoot Grin
Bevin made this statement directly after tweeting that “there are none more intolerant than liberals who don’t like your options, values, faith beliefs, political stance”
Like that liberal county registrar in Kentucky who wouldn’t issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
but she was a Democrat so it was bipartisan /////////////////////////////////////////////
re: #96 Charles Johnson
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Meanwhile Nathan won’t get the same. He who controls the media narrative wins.
If he’s going to enter the spotlight, I’m fine with attempts to find what kind of kid he really is.
I’m not saying you hack his FB, IG, or emails but ask people in and outside of the Covington Catholic community.
Everyone should be aware that this kid is being heavily promoted by a very high-powered GOP-linked PR firm whose founder is a CNN contributor - RunSwitch. https://t.co/GsQQ1BqoEt
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
re: #99 HappyWarrior
If he’s going to enter the spotlight, I’m fine with attempts to find what kind of kid he really is.
Yep. I have but a hunch he’s going to find that fame comes with a price. It always does.
Fudging the numbers…
Furloughed workers, despite not working or getting paid for a month, will be counted as “employed” in the January jobs numbers. https://t.co/Apo6ctt9Mc
— Ian Kullgren (@IanKullgren) January 22, 2019
re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg
I know who these MAGA kids are. When I was in eighth grade, I was bullied to the point of being suicidal by arrogant jerk kids like these. It’s always the same with them: The smirks, the taunts, the group attacks. Bullies don’t change their tactics.
And now these kids are getting rewarded for their behavior by getting their faces all over TV and going to the White House to meet the President.
Fuck.
It’s how bullying persists. It’s part of the power structure. Whether it’s school kids bullying the outcasts, or ‘civic organization’ laying threats against parts of the population for being ‘the wrong kind of people’, it’s all the same impetus, and all protected by the same power structure it acts as the face of. Bullying persists because school administrations allow it, because they sympathize more with the bullies than the bullied.
These kids are no different, even moreso as they seem to be directly encouraged by the faculty to be these exact kind of asshats.
And it works. It always fucking works. We are in DARVO Country.
re: #103 Myron Falwell
Yep. I have but a hunch he’s going to find that fame comes with a price. It always does.
Shit comes out now. I don’t support doxxing but we know the kid’s name. It’s definitely fair to try to find out if he’s got racist and sexist incidents in his life.
re: #74 The Vicious Babushka
This is what Cardi B meant when she said she would “dog walk” Toompa Loompa
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I’d pay good cash money to see that.
re: #105 Citizen K
It’s how bullying persists. It’s part of the power structure.
The issue that is being overlooked (and intentionally so on the part of the perpetrators) is the role the school itself played in condoning or even promoting this behavior.
bad enough that the kids are not being censured but the school is going to continue this policy until somebody really does get hurt
re: #88 Belafon
Yeah, our left wing media presence is pretty weak.
re: #90 William Lewis
We have none. We never have.
Any attempt to make any left wing media presence is attacked as ‘liberal media bias’ and the greatest fascism in the history of ever. And gleefully torn down by the same assholes who are held up as the biggest, most biased, most liberal hate figures of all by the right.
It’s hard to have a presence when it’s actively discouraged, sabotaged, and demonized by the very people who would benefit from allies against their own demonization. But nope, they’ve fully internalized that THEY’RE the problem, and that they must pitch further rightward, further and ever rightward, because that’s Real America, that’s the holy land, that’s where the real honest opinion is and only ever is.
Look at the ratio of replies to retweets/likes on Savannah’s tweet. It’s brutal.
And she deserves it.
re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg
I know who these MAGA kids are. When I was in eighth grade, I was bullied to the point of being suicidal by arrogant jerk kids like these. It’s always the same with them: The smirks, the taunts, the group attacks. Bullies don’t change their tactics.
And now these kids are getting rewarded for their behavior by getting their faces all over TV and going to the White House to meet the President.
Fuck.
You aren’t alone. I had to deal not only with kids bullying me. Teachers and the Football Coach joined in and they encouraged kids to attack me.
High school was hell. Happiest day of my life was when I walked out of that hell hole for the last time. Even when I got my diploma the superintendent sneered at me.
re: #110 Myron Falwell
Look at the ratio of replies to retweets/likes on Savannah’s tweet. It’s brutal.
And she deserves it.
It should be. All this talk about social media “lynching.” None at all st creating false narratives.
re: #49 HappyWarrior
You can find Kamala’s bitth listing indexed in Cali with a quick ancestry.com search.
But that’s not her long form birth certificate, which, when produced, will be a forgery anyway.//
re: #112 HappyWarrior
It should be. All this talk about social media “lynching.” None at all st creating false narratives.
I would smile bigly if the advance reaction to her interview is so overwhelmingly negative that it’s pulled before it even airs.
re: #113 NO SMOCKING GUN!
But that’s not her long form birth certificate, which, when produced, will be a forgery anyway.//
If Trump or Orly Taitz don’t approve.
re: #115 ericblair
lol, it wouldn’t be the first time Laura Ingraham has deliberately spread fake news as legitimate.
Listen to Ben. The MAGA kid stuff is significant because it demonstrates how the media has learned fuckall in the last few years. It’s why this news cycle has been especially draining and infuriating. https://t.co/lUgWsyMc1r
— Christopher Mathias (@letsgomathias) January 22, 2019
They’ve learned plenty. The problem is it’s all exactly the wrong thing. They learned that they should give Trump even more benefit of the doubt. They learned that Dems must be demonized more because they must be wrong by default. They learned only white fragility is genuine.
— The Best A K Can Be (@Citizen_Kryptik) January 22, 2019
re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Hey Savanah…. pic.twitter.com/OVagKT9a6z
— CRNABrian (@crnaBrian23) January 22, 2019
re: #115 ericblair
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The usual confusion.
The way things are, this usually means that Trump invited them personally and didn’t tell a goddamn soul about it, because he needs to ensure that white supremacy is treated with all adoration.
re: #115 ericblair
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The usual confusion.
Like I said above, Laura was trying to make it happen.
re: #87 Myron Falwell
No one should treat Savannah Guthrie with any sense of seriousness giving that MAGAt a megaphone.
She’s apparently decided to be as awful as Megyn Kelly without the $69M salary.
I’m not going to give Guthrie any break, but I am also not going to excuse her program director and NBC News that is probably helping push this.
This is another one of those “we need to understand these kids” and why America took the sides it did in this story.
Which results in attention for NBC and the school boys, will not touch on why they all wore MAGA hats and what that means and will come to no conclusion other than what people already think going in. It does nothing but create more of an opaque mess.
And one other thing. I’d like to know who is helping get Mr. Smiley get to New York for the interview and probably all the other places that will want to book him and get in on the hits.
re: #120 NO SMOCKING GUN!
The birther “theory” is that its not enough to be born in the US to qualify as a natural born citizen, both of your parents have to be US citizens at the time of your birth as well. Which is nonsense. SCOTUS settled this issue in 1896; with extremely limited exceptions (basically the children of ambassadors), every person born in the US is a natural born citizen.
It’s always at kids of non white immigrants. Trump’s mother was only a citizen five years at his birth and that means nothing to the MAGA assholes since she was Mary MacLeod rather than Shymala Gopalan.
re: #118 Myron Falwell
lol, it wouldn’t be the first time Laura Ingraham has deliberately spread fake news as legitimate.
She’s trying the Coulter approach of forcing Trump to meet with the Magiots from Covington? You’d think that if this meeting doesn’t occur that someone will hold her accountable for lying?
naw… IOKIYAR.
Man, this guy needs a good, uh, talking to.
Here is Kamala Harris’ yearbook from Westmount High School in MONTREAL!
Just like the worst President in American History, Barack Hussein Obama, Kamala Harris was NOT raised in the United States
Is it too much to ask to have a President that was born and RAISED in America? pic.twitter.com/PxIhv3ZF7v— Jacob Wohl (@JacobAWohl) January 22, 2019
re: #122 Citizen K
The way things are, this usually means that Trump invited them personally and didn’t tell a goddamn soul about it, because he needs to ensure that white supremacy is treated with all adoration.
Assuming Trump had invited them and it’s not a Laura Ingraham fever dream, it makes sense. Gives them a chance to give Trump another cheap and easy ego stroke, all sung in the key of Me.
Remember when Obama said ‘Trayvon could have been my son’ (paraphrase), and he was crucified for it, because apparently it meant he had sympathy for ‘thugs’?
Guess that’s not nearly as important now when you have sympathy for racism, racists, and racist institutions.— The Best A K Can Be (@Citizen_Kryptik) January 22, 2019
As usual, sympathy is always reserved for the powerful, the white, the aggressors, while victims are made out to be the perpetrators, forever and anon.
re: #129 Citizen K
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As usual, sympathy is always reserved for the powerful, the white, the aggressors, while victims are made out to be the perpetrators, forever and anon.
Yawn gfy Frenchy.
re: #127 Charles Johnson
Man, this guy needs a good, uh, talking to.
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It’s not illegal to be raised abroad you bigoted fuck nugget.
NRO always will take a white person’s side and that’s doubly true if they’re religious and or wealthy.
re: #127 Charles Johnson
Man, this guy needs a good, uh, talking to.
I’m assuming Surefire Intelligence® assisted with this information lookup.
re: #100 HappyWarrior
I’m not saying you hack his FB, IG, or emails but ask people in and outside of the Covington Catholic community.
That is going to happen anyway now.
If anyone thought Sunday was brutal on the schoolboy gang, they just invited hell in.
This kid is going to have his life turned upside down. I hope he, his family and friends are ready for this.
If it was no big thing and the left politicized it, what the fuck are you doing now?
re: #134 ObserverArt
That is going to happen anyway now.
If anyone thought Sunday was brutal on the schoolboy gang, they just invited hell in.
This kid is going to have his life turned upside down, I hope he, his family and friends are ready for this.
If it was no big thing and the left politicized it, what the fuck are you doing now?
I know. I’m just saying that’s not what should happen.
re: #127 Charles Johnson
Man, this guy needs a good, uh, talking to.
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Why does Jacob Wohl always get a pass no matter what he does?
re: #116 HappyWarrior
If Trump or Orly Taitz don’t approve.
The only attorney who could make Trump’s legal team even worse.
re: #136 Joe Bacon 🌹
Why does Jacob Wohl always get a pass no matter what he does?
Powerful friends. Ditto CCJ and O’Queef.
re: #136 Joe Bacon 🌹
Why does Jacob Wohl always get a pass no matter what he does?
Because he’s not important enough for higher ups to waste time on him.
No one made an issue that Mitt Romney’s Father was born and raised in Mexico but George was white so it was cool.
re: #136 Joe Bacon 🌹
Why does Jacob Wohl always get a pass no matter what he does?
He clowned himself so epically with the Surefire Intellegence® debacle when that whole scam imploded for all to see.
No one cared that Dukakis and Cuomo and this is why Chris needs to be called out, no one cared and probably celebrated that Mario’s parents were Italian immigrants.
Do you think Pepe the Frog is available for Thursday’s show? Can Dylann Roof do a segment from prison? Heart-to-heart with some Fentanyl traffickers?
— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) January 22, 2019
re: #124 ObserverArt
NBC has a long a profitable relationship with Donald Trump. The parent company Comcast profits from Trump and more so needs to be in good with Trump for mergers, etc.
Furlough observations from a colleague at Goddard who is approved to go to her office occasionally. pic.twitter.com/W6N4iYMX8P
— Mark Marley (@astromarkmarley) January 22, 2019
re: #127 Charles Johnson
This tells us who they fear most.
re: #144 freetoken
NBC has a long a profitable relationship with Donald Trump. The parent company Comcast profits from Trump and more so needs to be in good with Trump for mergers, etc.
More to the point, Jeff Zucker directly led NBC throughout the 2000s and has been driving CNN into the ground since 2013.
re: #136 Joe Bacon 🌹
Why does Jacob Wohl always get a pass no matter what he does?
Because failing upward is the lifeblood of modern conservatism.
re: #138 HappyWarrior
Powerful friends. Ditto CCJ and O’Queef.
Especially O’Queef. Gets burned, does another scam, gets attention, rinse repeat.
Prediction: The shutdown persists for a lengthy period of time. Unemployment jumps as federal employees look elsewhere and despite low unemployment, the market can’t absorb 800k job seekers. A Dem is elected in ‘20, and she/he immediately starts re-hiring federal employees to get to pre-shutdown levels. Unemployment improves. GOP complains that these aren’t “real” jobs being added and says the numbers should be disregarded.
Looking at the Guthrie tweet thread I saw this comment. It is to the point.
Kentucky Not Kochtucky @kochtucky 32m
Why isn’t Matt Lauer doing this interview? Seems it is sort of in his wheel house.
re: #150 Mike Lamb
Prediction: The shutdown persists for a lengthy period of time. Unemployment jumps as federal employees look elsewhere and despite low unemployment, the market can’t absorb 800k job seekers. A Dem is elected in ‘20, and she/he immediately starts re-hiring federal employees to get to pre-shutdown levels. Unemployment improves. GOP complains that these aren’t “real” jobs being added and says the numbers should be disregarded.
If this foolishness goes on into mid-February, the GOP will have a whole lot more to worry about than the unemployment numbers in early 2021.
You sir are a fucking dumb ass pic.twitter.com/zoKwPObmxU
— Just an Orono Guy (@Orono55356) January 22, 2019
re: #155 Charles Johnson
Unless the digits at the end are 8675309, I tend to be wary of those accounts.
The Russian trolls are out in force to defend the MAGAkids
re: #151 rhuarc
Maybe one of you more savvy Twitter users can help me with this. Every time I reply to a Tweet within minutes my account gets locked. I can unlock it by clicking 2 buttons, but it’s real annoying to have to do this all the time. Any suggestions on what’s going on or what I can do?
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Hard to answer without knowing the kinds of accounts you’re replying to. High profile accounts like Trump’s will have tons of bots constantly monitoring them and flooding their tweets with automatic replies. Those same accounts can also be used to mass report other accounts for suspicious activity / spam. So that sounds like what might be happening to you.
Have you tried quoting with reply instead of replying directly? Then it will only be seen by your followers and anybody specifically searching to see who quoted that tweet, which as far as I’m aware can only be done in TweetDeck or if you’r a developer via the Twitter API .
Someone predicted last week that May’s “Plan B” for Brexit would be her original deal which was overwhelmingly defeated last week, and they were right.
re: #45 HappyWarrior
This only happens to minority candidates whose parents are immigrants too. Cruz and Rubio got birtherism too. Trump didn’t. Gee but no racism there.
Cruz and Rubio got NOTHING. They were mainly used to prove the stupidity of the attacks on President Obama.
re: #158 goddamnedfrank
Hmm. That makes sense. I do tweet at high profile accounts. For some reason Jacob Wohl is considered high profile (literally got the account locked screen 1 minute after replying to a tweet of his), but replying to David French just now caused nothing to happen.
Guess I’ll just keep dealing with it since it doesn’t appear it’s anything particular with my account.
re: #160 fern01
Cruz and Rubio got NOTHING. They were mainly used to prove the stupidity of the attacks on President Obama.
They got some of it from the right actually. Not nearly as bad as Obama or Harris is about I’m afraid tho.
re: #155 Charles Johnson
I think they’re mad at you…..
re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg
I know who these MAGA kids are. When I was in eighth grade, I was bullied to the point of being suicidal by arrogant jerk kids like these. It’s always the same with them: The smirks, the taunts, the group attacks. Bullies don’t change their tactics.
And now these kids are getting rewarded for their behavior by getting their faces all over TV and going to the White House to meet the President.
Fuck.
I wouldn’t call meeting this president* a reward - and I doubt it will be written on a resume.
There’s has never been anybody more thirsty for attention than Kaitlin
Education was wasted on you. https://t.co/MeNjJAgdBo
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) January 22, 2019
Finally the media is moving on from Trump voters in the heartland to the children of Trump voters in the heartland.
Great work, everyone. Congrats— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 22, 2019
All, the New York Times says that a bipartisan deal has been reached to reopen the government for a couple weeks.
Whoop di doo
re: #165 goddamnedfrank
There’s has never been anybody more thirsty for attention than Kaitlin
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Wow a cold day. That totally disproves climate change./// God she’s stupid.
re: #167 Joe Bacon 🌹
All, the New York Times says that a bipartisan deal has been reached to reopen the government for a couple weeks.
Whoop di doo
I’m curious about the details of this “deal,” if only because I want to see if this means Senate Dem “moderates” are preparing to cave.
re: #165 goddamnedfrank
There’s has never been anybody more thirsty for attention than Kaitlin
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Please let her pull the trigger to try to shovel the snow…
re: #165 goddamnedfrank
There’s has never been anybody more thirsty for attention than Kaitlin
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She is desperate to get that Faux job.
re: #169 Targetpractice
I’m curious about the details of this “deal,” if only because I want to see if this means Senate Dem “moderates” are preparing to cave.
Or if it’s just McConnells deal, and McConnell’s telling the NYT he has Dems right where he wants them.
re: #167 Joe Bacon 🌹
All, the New York Times says that a bipartisan deal has been reached to reopen the government for a couple weeks.
Whoop di doo
Do you have a link?
re: #169 Targetpractice
I’m curious about the details of this “deal,” if only because I want to see if this means Senate Dem “moderates” are preparing to cave.
I haven’t seen it on the NYT’s Twitter feed yet.
Thing is whatever passes the Senate will need to be reconciled with the House CR, and they won’t include any of this.
re: #169 Targetpractice
I’m curious about the details of this “deal,” if only because I want to see if this means Senate Dem “moderates” are preparing to cave.
There’s some twitter action where supposedly McConnell and Schumer have something in the works, but it’d still require 60 votes to end cloture.
No word on whether the House would approve whatever is coming out of this. No word on details.
re: #175 Myron Falwell
WASHINGTON — The Senate will vote Thursday on two separate bills that would bring an immediate end to the partial government shutdown: one backed by President Trump that includes $5.7 billion for his border wall and another that would simply extend funding for shuttered agencies through Feb. 8.
The plan, a compromise between Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, and Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader, offers the first hint of a path out of the partial shutdown, which is now in its fifth week and has left 800,000 federal workers without pay. The two announced it Tuesday afternoon on the Senate floor.
“People are saying isn’t there a way out of this mess, isn’t there a way to relieve the burden on the 800,000 federal workers not getting paid, isn’t there a way to get government services open first and debate what we should do for border security later?” Mr. Schumer said. “Well, now there’s a way.”
The Covington Catholic story is a Rorschach test that divides journalists into two categories
1. Those who don’t blindly believe press releases from lawyers
2. Fucking idiots.— kang 👎 (@jaycaspiankang) January 22, 2019
re: #165 goddamnedfrank
There’s has never been anybody more thirsty for attention than Kaitlin
As the old saying goes, “Kent read, Kent write, Kent State.”
re: #181 Myron Falwell
As the old saying goes, “Kent read, Kent write, Kent State.”
Brain dead in Ohio
To be fair to Savannah Guthrie, chances are this was foisted on her by her bosses.
re: #179 ipsos
Both would get voted on. Trump’s idiotic wall bill will fail on the cloture, while the one to fund govt thru Feb 8 passes, kicking the can over to Trump to veto this nonsense.
This is McConnell’s way of passing the buck because he’s reading the tea leaves.
Addendum:
That assumes that McConnell thinks the shutdown should end. If he wants it to continue, he’ll make sure the continuing resolution also fails - and tries to pass it off as Democrats refusing to deal (SS/DD).
re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Brain dead in Ohio
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young are cringing right about now.
Wingnuts who demand “proof” from me get insta-blocked. They don’t want proof, they want you to dance for them.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
re: #184 lawhawk
Both would get voted on. Trump’s idiotic wall bill will fail on the cloture, while the one to fund govt thru Feb 8 passes, kicking the can over to Trump to veto this nonsense.
This is McConnell’s way of passing the buck because he’s reading the tea leaves.
Huh. Hope so.
re: #186 Charles Johnson
Wingnuts who demand “proof” from me get insta-blocked. They don’t want proof, they want you to dance for them.
It’s a denial of service attack on your time.
re: #173 HappyWarrior
She won’t get it.
That’s why she’s always coming to NYC - every time she’s here she tweets to the alleged ‘talent’ on the air at Fox and begs them to let her come on.
Thirsty AF.
re: #162 HappyWarrior
They got some of it from the right actually. Not nearly as bad as Obama or Harris is about I’m afraid tho.
There was some talk - for a couple of weeks - as you say - nothing like the never ending 8 years of the attack against President Obama - and here we are with the main offender living in the White House. I lived through the Vietnam protests and perhaps because young & enthused - thought I had a say - at this point in time - the political landscape is the worst of my lifetime. I am a misery
re: #191 fern01
There was some talk - for a couple of weeks - as you say - nothing like the never ending 8 years of the attack against President Obama - and here we are with the main offender living in the White House. I lived through the Vietnam protests and perhaps because young & enthused - thought I had a say - at this point in time - the political landscape is the worst of my lifetime. I am a misery
Right. I’m just saying it did happen. It wasn’t from the left though there were understandable questions about Cruz given the Canadian birth.
re: #184 lawhawk
Both would get voted on. Trump’s idiotic wall bill will fail on the cloture, while the one to fund govt thru Feb 8 passes, kicking the can over to Trump to veto this nonsense.
This is McConnell’s way of passing the buck because he’s reading the tea leaves.
2 weeks - so people can get their back pay, pay their bills and prepare to be broke again. I worry about Schumer when he is not sitting next to Nancy.
re: #184 lawhawk
Both would get voted on. Trump’s idiotic wall bill will fail on the cloture, while the one to fund govt thru Feb 8 passes, kicking the can over to Trump to veto this nonsense.
This is McConnell’s way of passing the buck because he’s reading the tea leaves.
Addendum:
That assumes that McConnell thinks the shutdown should end. If he wants it to continue, he’ll make sure the continuing resolution also fails - and tries to pass it off as Democrats refusing to deal (SS/DD).
It’ll open, Trump willl get his SOTU, furlough’d peeps will get a couple of checks…. and on Feb 8 it closes again.
*SPIT*
The proposal outlined by @POTUS would reopen the government fully. It is the only proposal currently before us that can be signed by the President and immediately reopen the government.
— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) January 22, 2019
re: #194 sagehen
It’ll open, Trump willl get his SOTU, furlough’d peeps will get a couple of checks…. and on Feb 8 it closes again.
And it’s our job to say “The only type of bill that will pass is the one that keeps government open without the wall. Keep the government open, and discuss border security the way it’s supposed to happen, via negotiations.”
re: #193 fern01
2 weeks - so people can get their back pay, pay their bills and prepare to be broke again. I worry about Schumer when he is not sitting next to Nancy.
Do you really think they don’t talk and coordinate together?
Schumer knows the only power he has in the Senate is the blocking ability of the Democratic held House.
And no, I’m not talking about a normal request for more information, like a normal human being makes. I’m talking the ones who come at you like, “Where’s the proof, libtard? STFU.”
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 22, 2019
Sure they communicate and Schumer has to be continually told what not to do - there are too many democratic Senators who want to be “bipartisan” an a time when this is impossible.
I like that people will be able to catch up with their bills - I worry what McConnell will try and do in the 2 weeks to February 8.
Edit: And I don’t want trump to be able to blame only the house if a bill gets through the senate to be rejected in the House. Let it fail in both places.
re: #194 sagehen
It’ll open, Trump willl get his SOTU, furlough’d peeps will get a couple of checks…. and on Feb 8 it closes again.
Maybe. This looks like McConnell blinking, the deal doesn’t appear to have involved the White House at all. If he signs the stopgap bill Trump gets one last public Hail Mary play at the SOTU with Pelosi sitting behind him, but imho he’s probably going to come off as wounded and unhinged. Plus, Coulter, Limbaugh and the rest of the reprobate racists will be apoplectic, because the bluff will have been called. Immediately shutting down the government again on Feb 8th, would be a sick joke. If he vetoes then he’s absolutely fucked.
re: #193 fern01
2 weeks - so people can get their back pay, pay their bills and prepare to be broke again. I worry about Schumer when he is not sitting next to Nancy.
Mitch refused a vote on a CR without TEH WALL for damn near a month because he knew it would pass and humiliate both him and Trump. That he even put a wall-less CR up for a vote sounds almost like he’s caving, not Schumer.
re: #184 lawhawk
Both would get voted on. Trump’s idiotic wall bill will fail on the cloture, while the one to fund govt thru Feb 8 passes, kicking the can over to Trump to veto this nonsense.
This is McConnell’s way of passing the buck because he’s reading the tea leaves.
Addendum:
That assumes that McConnell thinks the shutdown should end. If he wants it to continue, he’ll make sure the continuing resolution also fails - and tries to pass it off as Democrats refusing to deal (SS/DD).
Whatever passes the Senate will immediately face reconciliation with the House CR. Assuming that the CR with TEH WALL is passed by the Senate, and reconciliation strips out TEH WALL, it’s resubmitted to Mitch.
So will Mitch be smart and take the fucking exit ramp out of this disaster Trump refuses to take when THAT wall-less CR is resubmitted, or will he make it even worse by stonewalling again?
This Covington school bullshit is the perfect example of allies gone wrong. A little PR spin and folks just ignored what they saw with their own eyes. These are exactly the moments when white people need to look at ourselves and ask WHY did you let yourself be manipulated?
— Erin Biba (@erinbiba) January 22, 2019
re: #194 sagehen
It’ll open, Trump willl get his SOTU, furlough’d peeps will get a couple of checks…. and on Feb 8 it closes again.
Only if Trump is too stupid to not be willing to take a little heat from his foxy friends, so, probably.
re: #201 Myron Falwell
Mitch refused a vote on a CR without TEH WALL for damn near a month because he knew it would pass and humiliate both him and Trump. That he even put a wall-less CR up for a vote sounds almost like he’s caving, not Schumer.
Whatever passes the Senate will immediately face reconciliation with the House CR. Assuming that the CR with TEH WALL is passed by the Senate, and reconciliation strips out TEH WALL, it’s resubmitted to Mitch.
So will Mitch be smart and take the fucking exit ramp out of this disaster Trump refuses to take when THAT wall-less CR is resubmitted, or will he make it even worse by stonewalling again?
If Mitch is caving - I’ll be happy to eat my words. He hasn’t backed down for the past 10 years - so guess I have my doubts.
re: #202 Charles Johnson
Because they don’t want to have to deal with it since they don’t face any consequences.
re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth
*SPIT*
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Notable in that tweet is that McConnell is no longer saying he won’t bring the stopgap bill to the floor in exchange for a vote on Trump’s bill. I read it like he’s walking a tightrope. If there really is a deal to get votes on both then this reads like Mitch stabbing Trump in the back while trying to keep his fingerprints off the dagger.
re: #204 fern01
If Mitch is caving - I’ll be happy to eat my words. He hasn’t backed down for the past 10 years - so guess I have my doubts.
We’ve had three shutdowns the past two years, and Mitch caved on the previous two.
re: #205 Belafon
Because they don’t want to have to deal with it since they don’t face any consequences.
Yup.
Every single POC who’s been mocked for their color knows that smirk dead on.
Miss me with that “the kids did nothing wrong.” I know EXACTLY what was going on with the little assholes.
re: #202 Charles Johnson
Erin Biba ✔
@erinbiba
This Covington school bullshit is the perfect example of allies gone wrong. A little PR spin and folks just ignored what they saw with their own eyes. These are exactly the moments when white people need to look at ourselves and ask WHY did you let yourself be manipulated?2:36 PM - Jan 22, 2019
Erin, I think that falls under White Privilege. No consequences in not making a firm decision or stance. No one that you are speaking about has anything on the line. Easy to pass off as not a big thing why are people getting so upset?
re: #207 Belafon
We’ve had three shutdowns the past two years, and Mitch caved on the previous two.
Previous shutdowns - GOP was running house, senate and Presidency. They were the only party who could stop it. I find McConnell more evil than trump (if that is correct language - or even possible) - maybe he is trying to put all the blame on trump - given even the liberal media is starting to mention his name in that regard.
re: #201 Myron Falwell
Whatever passes the Senate will immediately face reconciliation with the House CR. Assuming that the CR with TEH WALL is passed by the Senate, and reconciliation strips out TEH WALL, it’s resubmitted to Mitch.
So will Mitch be smart and take the fucking exit ramp out of this disaster Trump refuses to take when THAT wall-less CR is resubmitted, or will he make it even worse by stonewalling again?
The CR with the wall funding has to pass the 60 vote threshold for cloture, and it won’t. The stopgap bill will pass overwhelmingly, probably with a veto proof majority. Senate Republicans have a shitty map in 2020, and they don’t want any more of this smoke. I think what we’re seeing here is the GOP signaling to Trump that it’s over.
Imagine if the Covington kids were black, and Phillips was a white dude.
Just the way to operate Government, going from one CR to the next CR… Just to keep the lights on.
THIS IS NOW HOW IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.
re: #213 MsJ
Just the way to operate Government, going from one CR to the next CR… Just to keep the lights on.
THIS IS NOW HOW IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.
I blame Newt.
re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth
*SPIT*
Left unsaid is there’s an option that can pass and won’t get signed by prez but can still be implemented if Senate votes to override.
I have a hard time believing the GOP mob will let the GOP Senate override mr. magadoo.
re: #204 fern01
If Mitch is caving - I’ll be happy to eat my words. He hasn’t backed down for the past 10 years - so guess I have my doubts.
This is an unwinnable fight for Mitch. Someone has to get them out of this mess before the whole party is FUBARed.
Mitch is going to hold on until 2020. Senate elections aren’t until then and he sees his job as secure.
The fun part comes when a significant minority of furloughed federal employees return to work with revenge in their hearts. I think it’s likely we see a lot more leaks out of various agencies.
re: #215 Sir John Barron
Left unsaid is there’s an option that can pass and won’t get signed by prez but can still be implemented if Senate votes to override.
I have a hard time believing the GOP mob will let the GOP Senate override mr. magadoo.
I think that’s why McConnell has, so far, been sticking to his guns about not allowing an unsignable bill onto the Senate floor. He knows full well that at some point, enough Republicans will be talked into overriding the veto. He is holding the line because if he caves on this, it will pass (and override the veto, to boot), and he will look like a coward AND he will have gone against the tangerine wankmaggot, which will infuriate his base - and he knows he’s already shot himself in the other foot with everyone else, which was intentional.
Mueller is investigating the link between the trump campaign team and the NRA.
re: #218 goddamnedfrank
The fun part comes when a significant minority of furloughed federal workers return to work with revenge in their hearts. I think it’s likely we see a lot more leaks out of various agencies.
Of course, there’s also the (increasingly convincing) theory that the shutdown is actually a malicious “If we can’t have America, no one can” stunt by the GOPers - not only to fulfill their anti-government wet dreams, but to hamstring the House and federal agencies (e.g. FBI) from doing their jobs and uncovering GOPer crimes:
This tweet is from five days ago. Now the FBI says they can barely act at all in the shutdown. *This was predictable*. It was also predictable that an autocrat would try to eliminate or co-opt any agency with prosecutory or investigative power. Why did no one have a back-up plan? https://t.co/IUTtDOZENe
— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) January 22, 2019
re: #219 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I think that’s why McConnell has, so far, been sticking to his guns about not allowing an unsignable bill onto the Senate floor. He knows full well that at some point, enough Republicans will be talked into overriding the veto. He is holding the line because if he caves on this, it will pass (and override the veto, to boot), and he will look like a coward AND he will have gone against the tangerine wankmaggot, which will infuriate his base - and he knows he’s already shot himself in the other foot with everyone else, which was intentional.
I just don’t see that many R Senators voting to override. I see how they might vote for the bill initially. Maybe someone talks Drump into thinking the Wall funding will get added later, so he signs it. But I have my doubts.
GOP doesn’t care about public disapproval as a result of the shutdown, and aren’t concerned about being voted out as a result of disapproval. This means that (yet again) people need to examine election integrity. GOP are acting like a party which believes people have no leverage.
— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) January 22, 2019
it begins. https://t.co/kNf9Ab9GNG
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) January 22, 2019
A word of advice: maybe conservative women should avoid marrying shitty men and raising shitty children. https://t.co/H0DgTWVzJU
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) January 22, 2019
re: #213 MsJ
Just the way to operate Government, going from one CR to the next CR… Just to keep the lights on.
THIS IS NOW HOW IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.
re: #214 Belafon
I blame Newt.
Don’t worry, Robby Portman to the rescue…that will go nowhere. He’s attempted to get this through 5 times I believe.
Journal-News - Ohio Sen. Rob Portman plans to introduce End Government Shutdowns Act
HAMILTON —
U.S. Sen. Rob Portman, R-Cincinnati, will introduce this week his bill that proposes to end government shutdowns.It’s a bill he’s introduced the past few sessions of Congress that’s received bipartisan support in recent years.
“I don’t like shutdowns, I don’t think they work for anybody,” Portman said to the Journal-News. “Taxpayers end up paying more with regards to shutdowns, because although you shut down parts of government for a while, you still have essential employees that have to come to work, and we always end up having to pay people that didn’t have to come to work.”
The bill says that if a spending bill is not decided by the end of the fiscal year, the government would be funded at the same rate as the previous year, but it’s reduced by 1 percent every few months. Portman’s End Government Shutdowns Act languished in the Senate Appropriations Committee since it was introduced in April 2017.
“What it would really do is to force Congress to do its work earlier and come up with individual spending bills — there are 14 different spending bills we’re supposed to do — that have not only the spending but the reforms of government programs,” Portman said.
…more at the link…
re: #225 goddamnedfrank
A subterranean river of glowing pink ectoplasm flows toward the White House.
re: #220 MsJ
That was only a matter of time. Butina was an unregistered Russian foreign agent (aka a spy). She was throwing Russian money at the NRA, which willingly took it and disbursed it to GOPers.
re: #227 ObserverArt
Actually, it should increase by 1 percent, and increase the upper tax bracket by the same amount.
It really is this simple. Government by hostage taking like this cannot be normalized or rewarded.
Get a clue political media. https://t.co/UkAOrtiYAf— Wakandan War Dog (@Kennymack1971) January 22, 2019
re: #228 jaunte
A subterranean river of glowing pink ectoplasm flows toward the White House.
And when the goo is put in a toaster and music is played nearby the toaster starts shouting incoherently in German.
re: #229 lawhawk
That was only a matter of time. Butina was an unregistered Russian foreign agent (aka a spy). She was throwing Russian money at the NRA, which willingly took it and disbursed it to GOPers.
It’s going to be delicious.
I only hope all the traitors in the GOP are arrested and tried, as well.
re: #124 ObserverArt
And shouldn’t he be in school?
re: #227 ObserverArt
Portman’s proposal is the TABOR Act on a Federal level, i.e. the automatic ratchet-down designed to hobble government. Ask sane Coloradans what we think of TABOR…
re: #235 CleverToad
Portman’s proposal is the TABOR Act on a Federal level, i.e. the automatic ratchet-down designed to hobble government. Ask sane Coloradans what we think of TABOR…
*raises hand*
Hi, Greeley delegation.
It sucks.
Signed,
Sane people
re: #227 ObserverArt
The bill says that if a spending bill is not decided by the end of the fiscal year, the government would be funded at the same rate as the previous year, but it’s reduced by 1 percent every few months. Portman’s End Government Shutdowns Act languished in the Senate Appropriations Committee since it was introduced in April 2017.
Yeah, problem is too many R congresscritters would like that outcome a little too much.
Naturally, defense spending would have to be exempted. /
re: #231 jaunte
One of the interesting things this time around (ever since DJT took office, actually) is that the R’s are not arguing about Too Much Gubmit Spending. They aren’t seeking caps on spending, even domestic. No, it’s all about the cultural agenda.
A word of advice: maybe conservative women should avoid marrying shitty men and raising shitty children. https://t.co/H0DgTWVzJU
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) January 22, 2019
The sentiment is accurate as it were but is hypocritical coming from the rageaholic lobster. I’m not just saying that because he called me a fucking asshole for daring to politely question his holiness’ defense of Lynn Cheney and then blocking me before I could respond to his insult. OK, maybe that is why I am saying this. Fuck this lobster guy asshole. Maybe lobster’s wife should have avoided marrying a shitty guy, too.
“ITS NOT RAPE IF YOU ENJOY”. In other words, they were just “praying”…. or some bullshit. This isn’t what young men are supposed to learn at a private all-boys catholic high school. This behavior was taught and excused. This isn’t Christian nor prolife https://t.co/iK0BL1wNt8
— Khary Penebaker, Fx (@kharyp) January 22, 2019
Yea, cuz comments about rape are acceptable! Got it https://t.co/1VjsBnsebz
— Khary Penebaker, Fx (@kharyp) January 22, 2019
re: #234 A Mom Anon
And shouldn’t he be in school?
I think the school was closed today because of threats.
This gentleman name is #nathanphilips. He is a Veteran. These little racists should sit at his feet and have a history lesson. And then be expelled. And their parents need the same. #CovingtonCatholicHighSchool https://t.co/ECrHF4rTZw
— Nils Lofgren (@nilslofgren) January 19, 2019
re: #224 MsJ
“GOP doesn’t care about public disapproval as a result of the shutdown, and aren’t concerned about being voted out as a result of disapproval. This means that (yet again) people need to examine election integrity. GOP are acting like a party which believes people have no leverage.”
They behaved the same exact manner with their failed repeal of the ACA in 2017, and wound up losing control of the house decisively.
Baller move. https://t.co/wYYMUJmiTD
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 22, 2019
re: #243 gocart mozart
There are definitely adults I would love to expel.
If Donald Trump thinks that immigrants are dangerous, why does he keep on marrying them? https://t.co/WSpMlmf5EE
— Translate Trump (@TranslateRealDT) January 22, 2019
re: #234 A Mom Anon
And shouldn’t he be in school?
He’s probably getting credit for this as extra study and will use it to get into a big college.
Translation, because Shane is too polite to say it: The New National Intelligence Strategy highlights the dangers posed by the president of the United States and his sponsors overseas. Not kinda sorta. Unmistakably. https://t.co/GlimHY3Fi1
— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) January 22, 2019
Giuliani on Trump’s proposed tower in Moscow, YESTERDAY: “[N]o plans were ever made. There were no drafts. Nothing in the file.”
BuzzFeed, TODAY: Here are the plans. https://t.co/shyijmq2h4 pic.twitter.com/LuWNVtkWh4— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) January 22, 2019
re: #165 goddamnedfrank
Looks like she’s auditioning for a reboot of Ilsa: Tigress of Siberia.
re: #242 Sionainn, Fierce Mother
I think the school was closed today because of threats.
You reap what you sow - although those against them tend to use words, not weapons.
Thread starts here:
Start here. P. 1235 makes it much more difficult for Dreamers to prove eligibility. As USCIS says, the “clear & convincing” standard is now rarely used and for applicants who the government has reasons to be suspicious of (eg a prior fraudulent marriage). This is a BIG change pic.twitter.com/CPLfhIojc8
— David Bier (@David_J_Bier) January 22, 2019
re: #242 Sionainn, Fierce Mother
Lordy, well thats awesome. And so that gives the assholes more oxygen. Great. Have any sane Catholics come forward to knock these little shits back a notch or two?
From 2015, this gem. The NRA’s “mole” Russian Maria Butina is randomly picked by Trump amongst dozens of journalists. She asks about Russia. He mentions sanctions relief for first time. https://t.co/e6HzNUq3iB https://t.co/ia61Wcbg6B
— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) January 22, 2019
re: #240 jaunte
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I dealt with private school boys in mobs through high school. Dated a boy from River Oaks, old money and a lot of it in Houston. It is a different world for people with that much privilege. We talk about it here but I saw it up close. Watched those guys act with impunity. Do anything they wanted. I have awful stories.
My boyfriend was a really good kid. A few good ones end up mixed in but they don’t tend to do the party thing. Parties are brutal in that environment. I went to a few but he did not leave my side and when the drugs and alcohol started kicking in around us, we left.
He would try to tell me they’re great when they’re not partying or in a group. But they were always partying or in a group.
I believe absolutely everything that has been reported about the Covington boys. I don’t believe a word of that BS statement. They are not victims of misunderstanding. They did that shit.
re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth
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It’s an entire prescription bottle of poison pills. The Senate GOP no doubt figure that they win either way: Either they effectively kill DACA or they put the DNC in the position of voting against “protecting” Dreamers.
re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
That thing is butt ugly.
re: #258 BlueGrl21
Absolutely right. And the rich kids in the public school I went to fit that pattern too.
re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth
“Clear and convincing evidence” is also subjective as hell.
re: #259 Targetpractice
It’s an entire prescription bottle of poison pills. The Senate GOP no doubt figure that they win either way: Either they effectively kill DACA or they put the DNC in the position of voting against “protecting” Dreamers.
And because SCOTUS isn’t taking up the case for DACA (which is de facto keeping it alive), there’s no need for the Democrats to even remotely consider this.
re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m so old that I remember Republicans complaining about 1200 page bills. They shouldn’t be more that the pages long.
I simply cannot express the level of hatred I have for them.
It closed for the weather, you miserable gun-loving witch. https://t.co/oAPA5DWhUn
— Karoli (@Karoli) January 22, 2019
re: #256 makeitstop
She is such a badass,
Not giving his political speech inside congress seems to be the stepping stone to opening the government - who’d have thought.
This is why I am so wary of McConnell and the February legislation. Govt open, trump has his triumphant entry into the Congress, sniffs his way through a campaign rally, then funding stops on February 8.
Will government then be unfunded until January 2020?
There’s something called the Antideficiency Act, which basically says the government can only spend money that Congress has authorized. I have some questions about how the Administration is arbitrarily picking and choosing which agencies to reopen in the middle of the shutdown. https://t.co/ug19Y32g9Y
— Mark Warner (@MarkWarner) January 22, 2019
Trump is acting as if there is a binding contract between him and Pelosi based on their prior exchange of communications. Any first-year law student could tell you there isn’t one.
Trump has no authority to give a speech in the House chamber if the House does not consent. https://t.co/MILLYZKe05— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) January 22, 2019
re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I was going to mention it was probably closed today for the weather. Columbus closed their schools today too. They claimed they were having trouble getting all the buses started today. It was 8 degrees this morning.
re: #266 fern01
Will government then be unfunded until January 2020?
They wouldn’t dare. Things will get violent long before that.
re: #258 BlueGrl21
I believe absolutely everything that has been reported about the Covington boys. I don’t believe a word of that BS statement. They are not victims of misunderstanding. They did that shit.
As did someone who is now a member of the SCOTUS - which is one major reason the GOP PR is out supporting the Covington students.
re: #269 ObserverArt
I was going to mention it was probably closed today for the weather. Columbus closed their schools today too. They claimed they were having trouble getting all the buses started today. It was 8 degrees this morning.
Up here, if we closed things every time the weather got down to 8 degrees F, we’d spend a good 2 months of the year with nothing open.
re: #270 makeitstop
They wouldn’t dare. Things will get violent long before that.
Shit, if this lasts until March, there’s no telling how absolutely ugly it will get.
A bit more on Trump Tower Moscow!
Rudy Giuliani said “no plans were ever made.”
Ah but @BuzzFeedNews has the plans.
An Ivanka spa! “Luxury” parking! Join @azeen for a lively tour through the 100-story building that never came to be. https://t.co/2HLvuXPdj6— Ariel Kaminer (@arielkaminer) January 22, 2019
re: #272 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Up here, if we closed things every time the weather got down to 8 degrees F, we’d spend a good 2 months of the year with nothing open.
Schools seem to have gotten a lot more scared of weather around here. Last year they shut down a few times due to the cold and even in some less-than-heavy snows.
re: #271 fern01
As did someone who is now a member of the SCOTUS - which is one major reason the GOP PR is out supporting the Covington students.
They want their own version of David Hogg.
That’s also why Laura Ingraham was hyping a non-existent WH visit… she got throughly embarrassed by David. Ditto with Gun Nut Dana (who I’m curious about given her longtime association with the NRA).
Love how Trump is squealing like a stuck pig about Nancy Pelosi rescinding his SOTU invitation, when he rescinded his own deal to sign a clean CR to keep the government open in December, then claimed that he would take personal responsibility for the shutdown & took that back too
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 22, 2019
re: #273 Myron Falwell
Shit, if this lasts until March, there’s no telling how absolutely ugly it will get.
That’s why I think McConnell is trying to engineer a way out of this. I’m not advocating anything here, but I think he knows that sooner or later members of Congress are going to start being confronted over the shutdown. And he’s gotten a little taste of that already.
ETF?
Congressman Collin Peterson (D-MN), who was co-sponsoring legislation with Steve King until the day after a https://t.co/Gl6evXRDcZ report highlighting their collaboration, now say Congress should give Trump all the money he wants for a wall https://t.co/B0YGHHNXGv
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) January 22, 2019
re: #270 makeitstop
They wouldn’t dare. Things will get violent long before that.
I think that part of my comment was snark - but with trump - who knows?
re: #275 ObserverArt
Schools seem to have gotten a lot more scared of weather around here. Last year they shut down a few times due to the cold and even in some less-than-heavy snows.
Here this morning it was also ice on the roads
“Give the Trump the money”
…and teach him taking people hostage and whining like a bitch will get him what he wants. Oh yeah, THAT would be awesome.
Christ.
Roughly 30 percent of the workers who will miss a second paycheck on Friday are veterans.
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) January 22, 2019
[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]
The President’s proposal last Saturday was reduced to writing and shared with us last night. Any hope we had that the President was moving quickly towards meaningful compromise disappeared with the harsh terms of this written proposal. https://t.co/L0odWivKRa
— Senator Dick Durbin (@SenatorDurbin) January 22, 2019
I don’t know where Jacob Wohl and his ilk got this shit about Harris being raised outside the US. A friend just posted a photo of her friend on FB from when the Harris family lived in Urbana, IL (I lived in Champaign, the sister city, at the time). The photo also included Kamala’s sister, Maya. They were elementary school best friends. Her dad taught Econ at UIUC for a few years before eventually ending up at Stanford.
Your periodic reminder that the Republican-controlled Senate could vote to reopen the government right now if they simply passed the exact same bill that they unanimously passed a few weeks ago.
All they have to do is vote for a bill that they already voted for…— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) January 22, 2019
re: #275 ObserverArt
Schools seem to have gotten a lot more sacred of weather around here. Last year they shut down a few times due to the cold and even in some less-than-heavy snows.
Esp Catholic schools.
re: #285 makeitstop
Put that SOB on the primary list.
He reps a district that voted for Trump by 30 points. He is another Joe Manchin. There is always a good chance he would be beaten if he gets too close to Pelosi.
I hope everyone knows this isn’t new. It’s just everything is so us and them. We used to have some “us” folks from the right that would go along with the left and we have also had “them” working with the right too.
Remember this the next time you see a mainstream reporter going on his show or posing for smiling pictures with him. https://t.co/L13mKWzjkN
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) January 22, 2019
re: #279 MsJ
ETF?
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Far-right Dem wants to give in to hostage taker to secure his own reelection.
re: #287 Barefoot Grin
She went to high school in Montreal
re: #280 fern01
I think that part of my comment was snark - but with trump - who knows?
I honestly don’t think he’s ever cared about the consequences of anything he does. Outright obliviousness is different from malevolence, but just as bad IMO.
re: #294 gocart mozart
She went to high school in Montreal
Oh, right. Immediately disqualifying!
And also: “Get me Hogan Tidley!!”
Trump was impressed by Hogan Gidley after seeing him on TV once. But he confused his staff when told them, “Get me Tidley.” Who? “Tidley. I want to talk to Hogan Tidley.” They told him the deputy press secretary’s last name was Gidley, not Tidley. https://t.co/Wm2C9QEX9s
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) January 22, 2019
Nice snow story: Grandson1, who moved to Colorado, saw his first 12” snowfall.
Sad coda: Grandson1 learned today that Yankee kids don’t get snow days for a mere foot.
Twitter thread on Trump’s offer. Here’s and interesting tidbit, and by interesting tidbit, I mean fucking awful bullshit.
NEW Stephen Miller addition:
On page 417, there is a 20% expansion in immigrant jail beds. That is a massive expansion for the Trump administration’s ability to keep families detained and part of their long-term strategy.
re: #289 Myron Falwell
RIP his political career.
What those who are GOP members of the democratic party fail to realise - next time around the people will vote for a real member of the GOP.
ICYMI: https://t.co/aUcwGTpmeA
— Ron Wyden (@RonWyden) January 22, 2019
FULL VIDEO: Colorado State Representative @lorisaine honors MLK by saying how whites and blacks alike were lynched in “nearly equal” numbers following Reconstruction “for the crime of being republican.” #coleg #copolitics #kdvr #mlk pic.twitter.com/8Xo5EWa81r
— Joe St. George (@JoeStGeorge) January 21, 2019
Federal employees shouldn’t be used as pawns. We can’t continue to ask federal workers to be furloughed or work without pay every time the president doesn’t get his way. That’s why I plan to vote yes on the House Democratic plan to reopen the government. pic.twitter.com/wqc9oszx77
— Sen Dianne Feinstein (@SenFeinstein) January 22, 2019
re: #300 Teddy’s Person
Twitter thread on Trump’s offer. Here’s and interesting tidbit, and by interesting tidbit, I mean fucking awful bullshit.
If this embarrassment somehow gets cloture on Thursday, I will be surprised.
re: #279 MsJ
ETF?
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Minnesota is the only state in which the GOP picked up two previously Democratic districts in the midterms (strangely the Democrats picked up two previously GOP districts as well).
This is what I was thinking, but couldn’t put it in words because it’s not me:
In all of Indian Country, we don’t have as much access to media and power as this one extremely privileged, White kid. And now, he gets to say what happened. Like so many White men who can before him, he gets to rewrite history.
— Rebecca Nagle (@rebeccanagle) January 22, 2019
Speaking of Helpless Senator Susan Collins:
Collins, who takes pride in not missing Senate votes, will have to either reschedule fundraiser or McConnell will have to leave open the Thursday shutdown votes, scheduled to begin at 230pm, until she returns https://t.co/l2iGrFBVeW
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 22, 2019
Michigan joined the lawsuits under Nessel’s predecessor @SchuetteOnDuty, and they were an issue in his failed bid for governor. https://t.co/uG8E5NwONx
— Jim Malewitz (@Jmalewitz) January 22, 2019
My GPS sucks. https://t.co/CIpmXtsJIn
— God (@TheTweetOfGod) January 22, 2019
From my FB page
We are on Day Four of the Covington thing, and the students have now been invited to the Whit House as part of the Trump white identity grievance grift. The right wing gas-lighting backlash has been predictable successful in convincing the media that what we saw the students doing was not, in fact what we saw:
* making cavemen gestures at the BHI members
*tomahawk chanting at Natives
*taunting random women
*chants of “build the wall” and “it’s not rape if you enjoy it”
As a teacher, I expect high school students to do stupid and offensive stuff. What especially perplexes is how and why these students had two or more hours of basically unstructured time to get into trouble in the middle of Washington DC.
1) Why did staff and the adult chaperones allow the students to engage with the BHI cult members who were verbally abusive and directed inflammatory insults towards the students?
2) Why didn’t the staff have educational plans for the students after the march ended? The mall is surrounded by world class museums.
3) Why did staff observe and *encourage* chants directed at the BHI? Other bystanders stated the students were becoming a mob and appeared overtly threatening. Staff have responsibility for student safety and this immediately overcomes any sense that the students must engage with non Christian cults, no matter what your religious mission is.
4) Why did staff not take action during the numerous incidents of racial and sexual harassment that were recorded and reported? Behavioral scientists have long known that the social dynamic of a boisterous group will approach that of the most transgressive individuals in the group, and that people will act out in a mob in ways they would not do if by themselves. This was evident in these students.
I can only conclude that the staff was incompetent, or that they were satisfied with the amazing, and frankly disgusting behaviors that were recorded. I have never seen any high school students allowed to act out in that fashion while on a school trip. Disciplinary actions would have been taken against students and staff, and very possibly one or more staff members would have been fired for cause.
Nonetheless, right wing pundits and media have already constructed their own mythology that the students were the victims and are now rewarding their transgressive and racist outbursts. This is how upper class white privilege works. If you go to a $10,000 a year school, you are protected from your screw ups in ways that lower class white students or students of color can never expect.
re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth
Maddow had a great point yesterday that the shutdown helps to not only kill morale but make recruiting more difficult. How many people are going to want to take a federal job if they know that the president and/or congress is willing to stop paying them because of a policy disagreement? And for law enforcement agencies, part of the background check process is seeing if anyone has dealt with financial hardships (like potential evictions) - apparently this is something that is periodically done after hiring as well - to see if they might be potentially subject to bribery or other forms of corruption. That’s a useful development if you’re under investigation and want to complain that law enforcement is corrupt or otherwise on the take.
How soon until Jimmy Fallon hosts MAGA teen for a fun staring contest bit?
— Schooley (@Rschooley) January 22, 2019
re: #258 BlueGrl21
I dealt with private school boys in mobs through high school. Dated a boy from River Oaks, old money and a lot of it in Houston. It is a different world for people with that much privilege. We talk about it here but I saw it up close. Watched those guys act with impunity. Do anything they wanted. I have awful stories.
My boyfriend was a really good kid. A few good ones end up mixed in but they don’t tend to do the party thing. Parties are brutal in that environment. I went to a few but he did not leave my side and when the drugs and alcohol started kicking in around us, we left.
He would try to tell me they’re great when they’re not partying or in a group. But they were always partying or in a group.
I believe absolutely everything that has been reported about the Covington boys. I don’t believe a word of that BS statement. They are not victims of misunderstanding. They did that shit.
Kavanaugh having this kind of background and admittedly being one of these party animals is why I thought the accusations against hime were true, and that we now basically have a proven rapist on SCOTUS.
re: #308 Myron Falwell
Hapless, I think you mean hapless.
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