The Bob Cesca Podcast: Ignorant, Evil and Insane

Politics • Views: 35,344

MP3 Audio

Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Ignorant, Evil And Insane — NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; The Californians; The Gunsplainers; Senator Sandwiches just hired a familiar name; Elizabeth Warren supports the national popular vote compact; The solution for the Electoral College; Quiet vs Loud; Trump’s bank fraud with Deutsche Bank; With music by Gin, Chocolate and Bottle Rockets and Cougar The Tiger; and so much more.

Jump to bottom

274 comments
1
Charles Johnson  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:03:22pm
2
Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:08:49pm
3
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:12:07pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

The only genuine thing O’keefe is is an asshole.

4
Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:12:13pm

5
Belafon  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:14:34pm
6
HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:35:27pm

re: #5 Belafon

[Embedded content]

Right. It’s not a radical position at all.

7
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:39:04pm

Happy Purim to y’all! This is the Jewish holiday where “they” (the anti-Semites in Persia) tried to kill us, they failed, so we eat (and partake of adult beverage). We read from the Megillah of Esther (one of the few books of the Bible that was written by a woman), deliver gifts of food to our friends and neighbors, and money to the poor. Children, dressed in costumes, go up and down the street, taking treats to their classmates. Kind of “Jewish Halloween”

8
Man, DangerMan  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:39:09pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Right. It’s not a radical position at all.

Nor are the results unfair undemocratic or unrepresentative
Or “unamerican,”

9
HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:40:39pm

re: #8 Man, DangerMan

Nor are the results unfair undemocratic or unrepresentative
Or “unamerican,”

For sure. In fact, I think history has proven that the EC was a bad idea.

10
Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:42:23pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

Why do we even have the concept of “red states” and “blue states”? Because of the Electoral College. The media is moaning about the idea of how people will go “unrepresented” if we move presidential elections (which are the only elections the EC apply to) to popular votes, yet at least half the states don’t even warrant a hesitation by the media before being “called” for one party’s nominee or the other. It’s also why we have the concept of “battleground states,” because they’re states that have enough EC votes to matter in a close election but margins thin enough that either party could possibly take it.

Only in party primaries do you ever hear of states like New York, California, South Carolina, or Georgia referred to as “battleground states.”

11
teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:43:03pm

He’s watching his favorite show and live tweeting it.

12
MsJ  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:43:51pm

New Zealand just voted to ban assault weapons.

13
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:43:53pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

Is Magilla Gorilla a Purim costume option?

Cultural reference for the younger set: en.wikipedia.org

14
MsJ  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:45:00pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

He’s watching his favorite show and live tweeting it.

[Embedded content]

Non contact fellating.

15
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:47:07pm

Appreciate friends bringing me some low calorie Poppyseed Hamentashen!

Enjoying them with coffee!

16
MsJ  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:51:41pm
17
HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:53:29pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

He’s watching his favorite show and live tweeting it.

[Embedded content]

He probably got that line from Putin himself.

18
MsJ  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:53:36pm

SMFH

19
HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:54:04pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

Appreciate friends bringing me some low calorie Poppyseed Hamentashen!

[Embedded content]

Enjoying them with coffee!

Poppyseed is my favorite kind of nutroll.

20
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:56:08pm

Happy I love Poppyseed rolls!

21
teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2019 • 7:58:14pm

Oof.

22
HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2019 • 8:00:47pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy I love Poppyseed rolls!

They’re the best. I’m the only one who likes them best in my family so come Easter, I get the most.

23
Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2019 • 8:35:10pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Oof.

[Embedded content]

*sigh* If you have to ask why, then you clearly didn’t understand the question, John.

24
Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2019 • 8:41:54pm

A little humor after another “WTF?!” day:

25
retired cynic  Mar 20, 2019 • 8:42:28pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

*sigh* If you have to ask why, then you clearly didn’t understand the question, John.

“If you have to ask, you’ll never know. If you know, you need only ask.”

26
retired cynic  Mar 20, 2019 • 8:54:21pm

It was struggling, but that was the mortal thrust.

27
De Kolta Chair  Mar 20, 2019 • 8:57:44pm

What I don’t get is, William H. Macy???? I mean, he’s always been like the coolest of cool, the baddest white guy beat.

28
Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2019 • 8:58:38pm

I missed this.

29
De Kolta Chair  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:09:42pm

re: #28 Patricia Kayden

Look, we’re red-blooded Americans, so you don’t seriously expect us to pay attention to these details, do you? Like yo bro wassup with the Navajo, ya know?

///

30
Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:09:57pm

I’d like to think that the final DNC nominee is someone who has ideas and policy proposals that appeal to the greatest number of people. But I can’t help but worry that we’re gonna end up repeating ‘04, where the nominee is just the person standing atop the heap after the rest of the field self-destructs.

31
Belafon  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:14:17pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

I’d like to think that the final DNC nominee is someone who has ideas and policy proposals that appeal to the greatest number of people. But I can’t help but worry that we’re gonna end up repeating ‘04, where the nominee is just the person standing atop the heap after the rest of the field self-destructs.

Then pick your favorites, and help them win.

32
Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:19:29pm

re: #31 Belafon

Then pick your favorites, and help them win.

*sigh* Why do I gotta do all the work around here?

///

33
HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:24:57pm

re: #28 Patricia Kayden

I missed this.

[Embedded content]

Has this happened with a major ally? Sorry missed the this is a first.

34
makeitstop  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:28:25pm

re: #13 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Is Magilla Gorilla a Purim costume option?

Cultural reference for the younger set: en.wikipedia.org

I was wondering if that was where the phrase ’ the whole megillah’ came from.

35
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:28:29pm

I found this Utah Outcasts video where X goofs on Ken Ham making fudge. The comments have me laughing so hard!

Ken Ham The Fudgemaster

36
Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:28:53pm

As if Germany’s request wasn’t bad enough, Nikki Haley steps up to the plate again to remind the world that we’re not sending our best abroad as representatives:

37
HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:32:00pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

As if Germany’s request wasn’t bad enough, Nikki Haley steps up to the plate again to remind the world that we’re not sending our best abroad as representatives:

[Embedded content]

So that’s why she was trashing Bernie. Bernie’s an ass but he brought up valid points that Haley of course ignored.

38
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:36:48pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

As if Germany’s request wasn’t bad enough, Nikki Haley steps up to the plate again to remind the world that we’re not sending our best abroad as representatives:

[Embedded content]

Won’t stop Tweety Matthews from BSing about Haley being the future face of the Republican Party.

39
De Kolta Chair  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:37:24pm

“Trump is demented because he was vaccinated as a child” in 3, 2, 1…

40
HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:38:38pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Won’t stop Tweety Matthews from Being about Haley being the future face of the Republican Party.

I seriously do not get what it is about her that makes them fawn over her. Yeah she doesn’t look like a typical Republican. So what. Doesn’t change she’s just as crooked and bigoted. Rubio too.

41
De Kolta Chair  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:44:20pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

As if Germany’s request wasn’t bad enough, Nikki Haley steps up to the plate again to remind the world that we’re not sending our best abroad as representatives

How many “Well, that didn’t end well…” did we hear for many decades about the Obese Orange?

Oh, that reminds me — Fuck you, People Magazine!

42
Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:51:01pm

They’re always the “future of the party” right up until they lose an election. Ex: Mia Love.

43
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:56:01pm

That sneer on Haley’s face says it all. Shows the true selfishness of her narcissistic personality.

Just like Trump’s!

44
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 20, 2019 • 9:56:35pm

re: #12 MsJ

New Zealand just voted to ban assault weapons.

Amazing how fast this can happen with sane and competent leadership, isn’t it?

45
Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2019 • 10:03:14pm

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

Amazing how fast this can happen with sane and competent leadership, isn’t it?

Well, it also helps that NZ lawmakers don’t have to worry about a group like the NRA “scoring” their votes.

46
BeachDem  Mar 20, 2019 • 10:18:21pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Won’t stop Tweety Matthews from Being about Haley being the future face of the Republican Party.

She’s the perfect face for the Republican Party—dumber than a box of rocks; a lying, sleazy asshole; totally enamored of her own voice; “loyalty” determined by what’s in it for Nikki. What’s not for the Republicans to like?

47
teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2019 • 10:37:06pm
48
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2019 • 10:42:31pm

Took 1 shot at Powerball and won $9.

49
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2019 • 10:46:49pm

re: #48 Joe Bacon 🌹

Took 1 shot at Powerball and won $9.

Congrats! Took 0 shots at Powerball with no effect on my net worth.

50
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2019 • 10:48:13pm

re: #49 Hecuba’s daughter

Congrats! Took 0 shots at Powerball with no effect on my net worth.

Primarily because I was so busy that I forgot to purchase a ticket…

51
De Kolta Chair  Mar 20, 2019 • 10:58:54pm

Re the Kush of 666

52
teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2019 • 11:03:08pm
53
Teukka  Mar 20, 2019 • 11:09:15pm
54
Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 20, 2019 • 11:25:52pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Won’t stop Tweety Matthews from BSing about Haley being the future face of the Republican Party.

He’s probably right, and this is the problem

55
Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 20, 2019 • 11:30:56pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Well, it also helps that NZ lawmakers don’t have to worry about a group like the NRA “scoring” their votes.

You would be referring to COLFO (Council Of Licensed Firearm Owners) who (a) are probably receiving funding from the NRA, and (b) have been given exactly as much attention as they deserve.

56
sagehen  Mar 20, 2019 • 11:55:57pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Well, it also helps that NZ lawmakers don’t have to worry about a group like the NRA “scoring” their votes.

NZ lawmakers know there won’t be any pushback when one murderer, with one gun, in 20 minutes murders more people than were murdered in the entire country in 2018.

57
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:04:36am

The DUP’s Westminster adventure is coming to an end

The author asserts that once the DUP is no longer needed in Westminster, either because a new election makes them irrelevant, or the UK falls out of the EU with a hard exit and thus May’s government collapses (even if the Tories win in an election), that the DUP will be ignored.

And once the DUP is ignored by Westminster, then the DUP will be held accountable for the NI executive government being held up in limbo (apparently it’s been that way since 2017 since the split in the unionist/independence reps at Stormont is so equal.)

58
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:09:49am

As an outsider, and being an American who doesn’t really know all the intricacies of the various parties involved in the EU and Brexit negotiations, I’m struck at how obvious the problem is.

Put simply, the reason May tried to run out the clock on Brexit is because many of the Tories were remainers, some were public about it, others secretly about it.

For some reason May thought that it was better for her own career to run out the clock than to swiftly come up with a deal and present it to Parliament.

But she’s going to go down as one of the more inept prime ministers in centuries.

59
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:10:03am

checking in with the morons and junior high students who inhabit the breitbart comment threads, i find that some number of them realize that trump says a lot of things THAT CLEARLY AREN’T TRUE

but, ya see, “that’s what leaders do - they lie when they’re giving pep talks”, and “trump is a salesman - it’s his job to lie”

well, what do you expect? that they’d admit that they’re being played for fools?

60
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:17:19am

Amazing Images Capture Giant Fireball Exploding Over the Bering Sea

61
Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:19:07am

Has anybody recently mentioned this president is a ****?

62
Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:20:10am

How about twat?

63
Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:25:53am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Has anybody recently mentioned this president is a ****?

It’s the paradox of the age that by every account, in the trouser department there is naught but a stubby mushroom, yet there is seemingly no end to the prick.

64
Teukka  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:31:24am

re: #60 freetoken

Amazing Images Capture Giant Fireball Exploding Over the Bering Sea

My fear is one of those boulders hitting a city, and things going downhill from there…

65
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:32:57am

I warned about this a few days ago, when a preprint on the arxiv, which had been there for about a month, got attention in a widely read outlet, and then lesser outlets would run with it and make a mess.

Here is Fox News making a mess:

More than one reality exists, shocking study says

That article appears to be a rewriting of stuff appearing elsewhere.

Here is what is happening: news stories are picking up on a preprint which asserts nothing new, but does reassert that the essential reality of superposition of states cannot be escaped.

Long ago in the early years of modern physics, when quantum mechanics (i.e., wave mechanics) was being digested by the community of physicists, it became clear that our intuition, which is based on our human-scale experiences, does not apply to the very small.

This has since then been shown over and over.

What any paper like the one put on the arxiv presents are simply better and clearer arguments as to why our every-day intuition really fails at explaining the universe on the very small scale.

66
Teukka  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:33:42am
67
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:36:19am

I don’t like the aesthetics of the latest version of the Chrome browser.

Once again we’ve lost more of those convenient spots on the new page of a new tab, where our most commonly visited URls are presented in a tablet of choice.

Even worse, the coloring scheme I have made (using the most common add-on for picking custom Chrome coloring) now seems ugly when I, on a Mac, click outside a window (and thus the window not being the active environment.)

68
Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:37:28am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

[Embedded content]

Has anybody recently mentioned this president is a ****?

So Donny is going to sign a EO requiring college campuses to carve out “safe zones” for far-right groups or else forfeit all federal dollars.

But remember, folks, that it’s liberals who are the “snowflakes.”

69
sagehen  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:39:10am

Has anybody asked any of these Freeze Peach purists whether they think ISIS should be allowed a YouTube channel, or to hold recruiting speeches on campus, or mass mailings or Facebook advertising?

70
Teukka  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:46:39am

re: #66 Teukka

[Embedded content]

71
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 12:49:52am

Another case: Here’s an article in Nature from several months ago, for which New Scientist for some reason runs a story this week:

Reimagining of Schrödinger’s cat breaks quantum mechanics — and stumps physicists

The original work is from a couple of years prior but it took that long to wind through the publication process.

The subject is similar to (and the participants also) the arxiv paper that has fluffed up the latest click-bait headlines.

The bottom line is this: when it comes to the very small, things (elementary particles) “exist” not as in a single state but possible states, all of which are real.

It takes a lot of woo, though, to try and expand that to our everyday macroscopic world.

72
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 1:06:11am

UK religious institution attempting to promote orthodoxy regarding homosexuality:

Presbyterian minister fired from college over ‘gross misconduct’

[…]

“You stated that you would be ‘horrified’, using that word twice, if a student at Union Theological College was taught that a same-sex, sexually active relationship was sinful, knowing full well that was the doctrinal position of your employer,” the letter continued.

It also said that when another guest had questioned Queen’s University’s link to UTC, Prof Kirkpatrick had made no attempt to defend the college’s reputation.

The letter said that Prof Kirkpatrick’s comments had “contributed significantly to a fracturing of the relationship between your employer and Queen’s University Belfast”.

The disciplinary panel found that his participation in the programme and what he said on it amounted to gross misconduct and left them with no alternative but to dismiss him.

[…]

We may wonder if the reason he was really fired was his position on homosexuality… or if he was fired because he got egg on the face of his bosses in their relationship to their compatriots.

But then again, that is how all politics work, even those cloaked in religious garb.

73
Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 21, 2019 • 1:28:48am
74
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 1:56:12am

This week’s free SG episodes are two favorites, and Christopher Judge drops by to add some comments:

STARGATE SG-1 FULL EPISODE LIVE REWATCH | “Window of Opportunity” & “1969” | Stargate SG-1

75
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2019 • 2:04:04am

…..and just like that,

New Zealand bans sale of assault, semi-automatic rifles

New Zealand has banned the sale of assault rifles and semi-automatic weapons after the country’s worst-ever attack that killed 50 people in two mosques.

“Be assured this is just the beginning of the work we’ll be doing,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told a news conference on Thursday.

“It’s in the national interest and it’s about safety… to prevent an act of terror from ever happening again in our country,” she said of the ban.

Ardern said she expects the new law to be in place by April 11 and buy-back schemes will be established for banned weapons.

“Now, six days after this attack, we are announcing a ban on all military-style semi-automatics (MSSA) and assault rifles in New Zealand,” Ardern said.

76
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 2:24:26am

re: #5 Belafon

Pundits who are implying that eliminating the Electoral College is some sort of radical position should check the polls. Most people support a Constitutional amendment to change to a popular vote.

I would be for keeping it but only it should only be called to kick in if

a) no single candidate receives a clear majority of the vote,

and

b) It should be reapportioned based on population, not seats in Congress.

77
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 2:25:37am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

For sure. In fact, I think history has proven that the EC was a bad idea.

It was a good idea at the time when polling places were located at the end of 200 miles of dirt road on the edge of the wilderness…

78
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 2:27:48am

re: #28 Patricia Kayden

In a first, Germany is requesting the removal of the Trump appointed ambassador to Germany, #RichardGrenell.
They consider him to stoke racism and fascism on the country.

Is it is latent racism/Fascism or is it his thinly veiled threats and indirect interference in German trade policy over Huawei and the Nordstream pipeline?

79
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 2:33:43am

re: #40 HappyWarrior

I seriously do not get what it is about her that makes them fawn over her. Yeah she doesn’t look like a typical Republican. So what. Doesn’t change she’s just as crooked and bigoted. Rubio too.

With a front like NH the GOP can sell themselves as inclusive.

80
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 3:14:57am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

With a front like NH the GOP can sell themselves as inclusive.

Token melanin.

Plus, her Indian background plays well with a certain group of nationalists.

I’ve linked several times here, stories about Indian (specifically) Hindu nationalists.

Religio-nationalism is not just a belief of white Christians. The basic structure is found elsewhere in humanity.

NH gets to simultaneously play the brown-person card and the we’re-the-good-aliens-because-we’re-legal-and-believe-in-hard-work card.

So NH is the perfect token.

That she’s so willingly subservient to the devices of Trump is something which many Republicans simply don’t care about, because it’s more important to stop the ungodly abortionists than care about anything else, to the utter destruction of civilization.

81
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 3:39:02am

re: #80 freetoken

…it’s more important to stop the ungodly abortionists than care about anything else, to the utter destruction of civilization.

They see that as an existential threat to America.

Remember, American Exceptionalism leans heavily on the concept of the Nation of God, in which our laws and Constitution are subject to (their own interpretation of ) Divine Law. God grants us his blessing because we enact (their own notion of ) His Divine Will on Earth.

And by allowing abortion, we are just asking God to open up a big can of ass-smitin’…

82
freetoken  Mar 21, 2019 • 4:32:57am

Zooming in on the heart of the Milky Way

84
Weaselone  Mar 21, 2019 • 4:33:44am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was a good idea at the time when polling places were located at the end of 200 miles of dirt road on the edge of the wilderness…

Nope. It’s always been a steaming pile of road apples.

85
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 4:35:51am

re: #84 Weaselone

Nope. It’s always been a steaming pile of road apples.

It got Abraham Lincoln elected.

But it has passed its usefulness in the age of digital communication

86
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 4:37:31am
87
Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 21, 2019 • 4:41:44am

Nothing like the 8am view before the parking lot fills up

Good morning everyone! (40s and drizzly today. So time to post a picture from the other side of the continent.)

88
Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2019 • 4:42:59am

In Brexit news, this happened last night:

‘The most dishonest and divisive statement from any Prime Minister’ - May told her ‘incendiary’ TV address may have killed Brexit deal

independent.ie

Or, put another way, it went a bit like this:

[Adviser]: “Okay, Prime Minister, there’s pretty much just one more shot at passing your deal. We need to sell people on the benefits. It’s the MPs you need to get on board. More carrot, less stick, yeah?”

[PM May]: “I’ve got it.”

[Adviser]: “Great!”

[PM May on live TV]: “HOW COME ALL YOU FUCKING IDIOTS AREN’T VOTING FOR MY DEAL AND FUCKING UP THE COUNTRY??”

89
jeffreyw  Mar 21, 2019 • 4:45:02am

Good morning!

90
Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2019 • 4:59:21am

So first she sends a letter to the EU begging for an extension to buy her time to ram through the deal, then she doubles down by asking the public to help her bully resistant MPs into accepting her deal by suggesting it’s her deal or no deal.

Honestly, the EU should be telling her right now that they might be able to see Brexit happening…but not with her involved.

91
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:04:31am

re: #90 Targetpractice

So first she sends a letter to the EU begging for an extension to buy her time to ram through the deal, then she doubles down by asking the public to help her bully resistant MPs into accepting her deal by suggesting it’s her deal or no deal.

Honestly, the EU should be telling her right now that they might be able to see Brexit happening…but not with her involved.

Her deal would be better than No Deal, but then again, No Brexit would still remain the better option.

92
Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:06:58am

I’m waiting for the UK leadership to do that 4th Wall moment when they realize they are in a bad movie.

Top Secret! (3/9) Movie CLIP - Some Bad Movie (1984) HD

93
Weaselone  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:14:10am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It got Abraham Lincoln elected.

But it has passed its usefulness in the age of digital communication

Our founders not coming up with a reasonable way to handle a presidential election where no single candidate gets a majority is not a defense of the electoral college. Lincoln would also have won if the Founders had just decided that a plurality was sufficient.

94
Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:15:50am
95
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:16:42am

re: #93 Weaselone

Our founders not coming up with a reasonable way to handle a presidential election where no single candidate gets a majority is not a defense of the electoral college. Lincoln would also have won if the Founders had just decided that a plurality was sufficient.

I do not like pluralities.

The other option to an EC would be runoff elections as are held in many countries…but then again, our election cycle is long and painful enough without having to go through a second round.

96
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:18:10am

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

BREAKING: Video of Devin Nunes defending protestors who yelled the “n-word” at US Rep John Lewis: “I think people have every right to say what they want. If they wanna smear someone, they can do it.” Nunes is terrible. Dug up

In the narrow sense, they do have the right, there is no law against using that word except in a threatening context.

But DN is up there defending it…

97
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:20:45am

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

Discovery is a bitch eh Dev?

98
Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:25:52am

This is what happens when leaders are serious about protecting fellow citizens.

99
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:25:56am

Frankly every electoral college win with a PV loss exempting 1888 has had fishy shit. Whether it was 1824 and what Clay did to help Adams, the whole of 1876, & of course in our lifetimes 2000. I’m sorry but over two and a half million more people voted for HRC than Trump. That should mean something. The EC comes from a time when our states were seen as little countries. It’s outdated. The Founders had a lot of good ideas but this wasn’t one of them. In fact, I’d say their skepticism towards the idea of more inclusive democratic government is why it exists.

100
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:28:47am

The EC weights low-population states over the more densely populated. Since those low-population states are currently almost entirely GOP, they are going to oppose any change.

101
Weaselone  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:31:51am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not like pluralities.

The other option to an EC would be runoff elections as are held in many countries…but then again, our election cycle is long and painful enough without having to go through a second round.

Fair enough. We’ll just update the electoral system to award 50 electors to the candidate who gets the highest total number of votes and then they can select the President. Should yield 100 percent majorities or close to it every time.

102
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:34:39am

re: #101 Weaselone

Fair enough. We’ll just update the electoral system to award 50 electors to the candidate who gets the highest total number of votes and then they can select the President. Should yield 100 percent majorities or close to it every time.

I do not get what you mean with that. 50 electors out of how many?

103
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:35:22am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The EC weights low-population states over the more densely populated. Since those low-population states are currently almost entirely GOP, they are going to oppose any change.

Eh it’s more close than you think. The bottom ten states in population are slightly more Republican than Democratic but not significantly. For Wyoming, there is Vermont. For the Dakotas, Delaware and Rhode Island. The top ten is similar too. This is going to happen again and it’s just going to continue the divide and we’ll again be stuck with a President most of the country didn’t ask for.

104
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:40:04am

Give the territories EC and representation imo. Puerto Rican’s as we’ve seen are impacted by our policies.

105
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:40:25am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Eh it’s more close than you think. The bottom ten states in population are slightly more Republican than Democratic but not significantly. For Wyoming, there is Vermont. For the Dakotas, Delaware and Rhode Island. The top ten is similar too. This is going to happen again and it’s just going to continue the divide and we’ll again be stuck with a President most of the country didn’t ask for.

I could support an EC that was based on population (House of Representatives seats) and not skewered by counting Senate seats as well.

And again, one that only got to decide if no single candidate received a clear popular vote majority.

106
Weaselone  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:42:55am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

50 out of 50 total electors. You expressed discomfort about awarding the Presidency to someone based on a plurality, but seemed OK with Lincoln winning with a majority of the electoral college despite only receiving a plurality of total votes. The easiest solution seems to be to just award all the electors to the person who gets the highest national popular vote total.

I would also lean towards ranked choice voting, but I’ll take what I can get.

107
Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:46:27am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t mind the idea of a two-round Presidential election (as it’s done here in Czech Republic). One big difference is that it’s pretty much all done and dusted within a 90-day period, on average, from preliminary debates among all the candidates, to first round, to debate between the two winners of the first round, to second round, to swearing in (which here at least, is done the day after the vote is certified).

Nice and quick.

108
Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:48:06am

Problem with the Czech system is that it’s not enough time for the special interests and dark money to have their say and influence things.

109
Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:50:27am

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

Problem with the Czech system is that it’s not enough time for the special interests and dark money to have their say and influence things.

Well, we do have a zombie Russian/Chinese stooge as President here currently, so I’d just say it would accelerate the process.

110
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:52:00am

re: #27 De Kolta Chair

What I don’t get is, William H. Macy???? I mean, he’s always been like the coolest of cool, the baddest white guy beat.

[Embedded content]

What infuriates me about this whole school scandal is that Mr Macy is hardly ever mentioned but his wife and Lori Loughlin are the face of this scandal. I hear about women over and over again but the men in this scandal are barely mentioned.

As a woman this frustrates the fuck out of me. All of them deserve this infamy but only the women, is appears, are the wrongdoers here.

111
Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:53:10am

No duh.

112
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 5:53:53am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

I don’t mind the idea of a two-round Presidential election (as it’s done here in Czech Republic). One big difference is that it’s pretty much all done and dusted within a 90-day period, on average, from preliminary debates among all the candidates, to first round, to debate between the two winners of the first round, to second round, to swearing in (which here at least, is done the day after the vote is certified).

Nice and quick.

That would be great. In order to do that here, though, you’d have to have complete public financing of elections, and a much more powerful election commission than we have now.

113
steve_davis  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:05:23am

re: #71 freetoken

Another case: Here’s an article in Nature from several months ago, for which New Scientist for some reason runs a story this week:

Reimagining of Schrödinger’s cat breaks quantum mechanics — and stumps physicists

The original work is from a couple of years prior but it took that long to wind through the publication process.

The subject is similar to (and the participants also) the arxiv paper that has fluffed up the latest click-bait headlines.

The bottom line is this: when it comes to the very small, things (elementary particles) “exist” not as in a single state but possible states, all of which are real.

It takes a lot of woo, though, to try and expand that to our everyday macroscopic world.

just watched a Numbers episode (hey, I was bored, and Amazon has all the episodes) where I learned (possibly) that there is a theory that all photons come in pairs, and that regardless of where they find themselves, they maintain some kind of resonance with one another (they didn’t use that word. that’s my non-science word that sort of makes sense to me). So something’s happening down there. What it is ain’t exactly clear.

114
steve_davis  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:07:35am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They see that as an existential threat to America.

Remember, American Exceptionalism leans heavily on the concept of the Nation of God, in which our laws and Constitution are subject to (their own interpretation of ) Divine Law. God grants us his blessing because we enact (their own notion of ) His Divine Will on Earth.

And by allowing abortion, we are just asking God to open up a big can of ass-smitin’…

We are, according to Oscar Wilde, God’s Almost Chosen People.

115
steve_davis  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:08:23am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It got Abraham Lincoln elected.

But it has passed its usefulness in the age of digital communication

so once again, it’s only claim to fame has been getting Republicans elected who lose the popular vote.

116
Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:11:08am

Bold move by the President!

117
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:14:12am

re: #113 steve_davis

just watched a Numbers episode (hey, I was bored, and Amazon has all the episodes) where I learned (possibly) that there is a theory that all photons come in pairs, and that regardless of where they find themselves, they maintain some kind of resonance with one another (they didn’t use that word. that’s my non-science word that sort of makes sense to me). So something’s happening down there. What it is ain’t exactly clear.

That’s kind of based on the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox: en.wikipedia.org

118
Teukka  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:14:44am

Couldn’t resist…

Am I being too harsh?
*looks concernedly at the other Lizardim*

119
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:18:35am

re: #118 Teukka

Couldn’t resist…

[Embedded content]

Am I being too harsh?
*looks concernedly on the other Lizardim*

The splat was especially laugh inducing.

120
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:19:25am
121
Unshaken Defiance  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:34:14am

Good morning. Embarrassing headline.

The U.S. took 443 days to change gun laws after its deadliest mass shooting. New Zealand took 6

Six days after 50 people died in the New Zealand mosque attacks, the government announced that it would ban military-style semi-automatic guns and assault rifles.
By Jaweed Kaleem latimes.com

122
Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:37:58am
Ireland’s Twitterverse is roasting Tory MEP Daniel Hannan for bungling Irish history in a Telegraph article and then refusing to admit his mistake.

In citing Ireland as an example of baleful EU influence, the Brexiteer wrote that Fianna Fáil won every Irish election between 1932 and 2008.

The party in fact lost six times. When challenged about this and other points this week Hannan doubled down in a tweet.

“I managed a Double First in Modern History from Oxford. One of the things I was taught is that historians necessarily have different takes on the same events. Please try to accept that yours is not the only interpretation.”

Mockery has ensued via the hashtag #HannanIrishHistory positing revisionist interpretations of Irish history, such as the ambulance siren being invented in Nenagh, County Tipperary, and Michael Collins faking his own death in 1922 in an insurance scam before fleeing to America, piloting the Apollo 11 mission and being immortalised in the song In The Air Tonight written by his brother Phil.

theguardian.com

twitter.com

123
Teukka  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:38:54am

re: #118 Teukka

Couldn’t resist…

[Embedded content]

Am I being too harsh?
*looks concernedly at the other Lizardim*

And she came back for more…

124
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:41:19am

re: #123 Teukka

And she came back for more…

[Embedded content]

I don’t let the media tell me what to think. Proceeds to link to a talking head telling her what to think. The issue only became politicized because the right wanted it that way.

125
Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:46:08am
126
Teukka  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:48:42am

re: #119 MsJ

The splat was especially laugh inducing.

[Embedded content]

I’ve learned to use humor to get a point across, even if it at times is very Noir. :)

127
Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:50:50am
128
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:52:01am

re: #127 Dr Lizardo

BREAKING: Emmanuel Macron says that if Parliament rejects the Brexit deal again next week, “we are heading towards no deal”

They are already at “no deal”; the UK has to move away from that position.

129
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:52:49am

re: #125 Dave In Austin

I love how DevinCow isn’t shutting up due to Nunes’ lawsuit stunt. They are doubling and tripling down on his stupidity (and treason).

Good for them.

130
Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:54:42am

I just checked. There is no @PatriotCow (I didn’t check Bull). And I don’t have the time.

131
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 6:54:53am

re: #129 MsJ

I love how DevinCow isn’t shutting up due to Nunes’ lawsuit stunt. They are doubling and tripling down on his stupidity (and treason).

Good for them.

Twitter took down Devin Nunes Mom because they don’t understand pop culture.

132
Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:02:01am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are already at “no deal”; the UK has to move away from that position.


____________________________________

The Latvian prime minister, Krisjanis Karins, said Britain would have to leave without a deal or revoke Article 50 if Mrs May’s deal is rejected again next week. Speaking as he arrived at the summit, he said:

If the UK is leaving we would want that to be an orderly process so there has been a withdrawal agreement agreed over a two-year period - I don’t see any chance of changing that.

So the question is will the UK accept this agreement and then it will be an orderly withdrawal? No-one wants a chaotic withdrawal.

Asked what would happen if the deal were rejected, Karins replied:

There are then two alternatives: either Great Britain withdraws article 50 and stays in the European Union or there is a disorderly withdrawal.

133
William Lewis  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:04:55am

re: #121 Unshaken Defiance

Good morning. Embarrassing headline.

The U.S. took 443 days to change gun laws after its deadliest mass shooting. New Zealand took 6

Six days after 50 people died in the New Zealand mosque attacks, the government announced that it would ban military-style semi-automatic guns and assault rifles.
By Jaweed Kaleem latimes.com

Are there any details out on what is banned, what isn’t? Is this a “feature” ban or a “name” ban? If not all semi-auto’s are banned what are still legal (M1 Garand? Remington 742? etc) and can “banned” weapons be modified to legal status like under US “bans”?

The other questions I have are regarding enforcement. I am presuming they have some kind of registration system as otherwise there will be a fair number of “lost” rifles that are never turned in for the buyback.

134
Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:07:56am

re: #133 William Lewis

From what I understand, all semi-autos (including handguns) are to be banned.

Effective immediately, military style semi-automatics and assault rifles will be banned in New Zealand under stronger new gun laws announced today, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says.

All high-capacity magazines will also be banned.

As will two types of firearms now defined as Military Style Semi-Automatics (MSSAs):

* A semi-automatic firearm capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges

* A semi-automatic shotgun capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges.

Ardern has announced that these changes came into force at 3pm, via an “Order in Council”. That is to prevent a rush to stockpile banned soon-to-banned weapons. A buyback scheme will be put in place to remove these weapons from circulation. Police will work with the New Zealand Defence Force to enable safe storage, transport and destruction of MSSAs. Police are establishing an online form which will make it easier for firearms owners to arrange for Police to collect the MSSAs.

The online form will go live over the weekend. It will not be practicable for firearms owners to physically return their weapons to Police stations without prior approval. Cabinet will consider further steps on 25 March. These will include measures to:

* Tighten firearms licensing and penalties

* Impose greater controls over a range of ammunition

* Address a number of other issues relevant to special interest groups such as international sports shooters and professional pest controllers, such as DoC.

* Future proof the Arms Act to ensure it is able to respond to developments in technology and society

stuff.co.nz

135
Citizen K  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:08:04am

It’s almost like there’s reasons that people have a stark mistrust of police by reflex. Hrm…

136
Shropshire Slasher  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:20:38am

re: #135 Citizen K

1) Don’t park your scooter in the crosswalk.
2) Don’t throw the first punch.

137
retired cynic  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:24:37am

re: #112 Belafon

That would be great. In order to do that here, though, you’d have to have complete public financing of elections, and a much more powerful election commission than we have now.

It may already have been said, but the media would have to forego a TON of hours of talking points and many tons of money from campaigns and PAC. It would be great, but they won’t do that.

138
Citizen K  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:26:16am

re: #136 Shropshire Slasher

1) Don’t park your scooter in the crosswalk.
2) Don’t throw the first punch.

Where’s this ‘first punch’ you see, exactly?

Yes, ticket him, but there’s zero excuse for 3 plainclothes policemen to mob him and gangbeat him the way they did. Also, you know, they lied to shit in their report about it From the Daily News article from that second tweet:

Lawyers who released surveillance video of Brooklyn arrest said cops lied about their confrontation last year with a delivery man buying groceries for his boss at a Williamsburg bodega.

Cops had said they did not use force when they took Christopher Parham, 20, into custody on Sept. 15, 2018, at the store, but video shows them tackling him to the ground.

Officers had also said a pedestrian was forced to jump out of the way of Parham’s illegal scooter, but video shows otherwise.

Cops also said Parham created a public disturbance that caused a crowd to gather. The video meanwhile shows just a handful of pedestrians on the corner at Flushing Ave. and Humboldt St.

139
William Lewis  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:26:46am

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

From what I understand, all semi-autos (including handguns) are to be banned.

stuff.co.nz

The description doesn’t quite say that though - is a Remington 742 “military style” forexample? My reading is that it, with it’s five round magazine, should still be legal.

The other issue is that apparently NZ does not have any registry of long arms, only hand guns. There will be many arms “lost” and hidden away by the the right and will continue to be available for terrorism as a result.

Two other comments - first is is good to see serious action being taken. I prefer different means like those used in the Czech Republic but change has to come. Second, there was a tweet from Bernie applauding these measures which made me want to gag after he’s spent decades as an NRA tool with his racist line that gun owners in White Vermont are somehow different.

140
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:34:35am

re: #139 William Lewis

Being a country that passed this law that fast, most of their population probably won’t sit there and go “Well, you know, since I don’t pull this gun out on Thursdays, it doesn’t qualify as a military style weapon” like a certain organization and its members here would.

141
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:35:16am

re: #138 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

Where’s this ‘first punch’ you see, exactly?

Yes, ticket him, but there’s zero excuse for 3 plainclothes policemen to mob him and gangbeat him the way they did. Also, you know, they lied to shit in their report about it From the Daily News article from that second tweet:

Gee…a “crowd” appeared because three cops beat someone up. There would have been no “crowd” if they weren’t fucking beating some poor schmuck up.

142
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:35:56am

The onion…Nunes really did himself proud. I thought this was real.

143
William Lewis  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:38:15am

re: #140 Belafon

Being a country that passed this law that fast, most of their population probably won’t sit there and go “Well, you know, since I don’t pull this gun out on Thursdays, it doesn’t qualify as a military style weapon” like a certain organization and its members here would.

To be sure, the government can move fast in this case because there is only common law regarding weapon possession rather than, for example, the American constitution regarding it as a right rather than a privilege. That said, it remains to be seen how much and in what way, push back happens in NZ. Especially since you can remove the laws as fast and easily as they were passed if a new PM and majority comes into power.

144
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:38:44am
145
makeitstop  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:45:27am

re: #141 MsJ

Gee…a “crowd” appeared because three cops beat someone up. There would have been no “crowd” if they weren’t fucking beating some poor schmuck up.

And it’s Williamsburg. On any given day, there’s always a crowd. Brooklyn is a fucking crowded place.

146
Citizen K  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:56:43am

NYTimes is at it again. Does it surprise anyone that this would be written by a certain Mr. Stephens?

EDIT: And wow, the comments are dire. So much ‘agreement’ that the media is somehow super biased against Israel. Like…what the fuck even?

147
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 7:59:45am

re: #146 Citizen K

No, I am not surprised. :(

148
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:02:55am

re: #146 Citizen K

NYTimes is at it again. Does it surprise anyone that this would be written by a certain Mr. Stephens?

[Embedded content]

EDIT: And wow, the comments are dire. So much ‘agreement’ that the media is somehow super biased against Israel. Like…what the fuck even?

Sigh.

149
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:23:34am
150
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:28:29am

OT I have a question regarding malware. Last night my MacBook Air locked up on me. I called Apple and got a very friendly tech Amy to help me get my MacBook going again. She like another tech in the Walnut Street store installed Malwarebytes on my MacBook and helped me to clear out my cache. My question is: Is it worth $40 a year to get this program? Does anyone here have experience with this program?

151
Jay C  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:28:51am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Wonder how quick the Brexit folks are going to be to call for this particular “voice of the people” to be heeded?
()

Or, in this case, dismiss it as “Internet trollers” by bots and hackers….?

152
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:29:02am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now up to over 1mm signatures.

153
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:29:39am

re: #150 PhillyPretzel

OT I have a question regarding malware. Last night my MacBook Air locked up on me. I called Apple and got a very friendly tech Amy to help me get my MacBook going again. She like another tech in the Walnut Street store installed Malwarebytes on my MacBook and helped me to clear out my cashe. My question is: Is it worth $40 a year to get this program? Does anyone here have experience with this program?

I used it for quite a long time and liked it. I think it is worth it.

154
CongoJack  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:32:00am

re: #150 PhillyPretzel

OT I have a question regarding malware. Last night my MacBook Air locked up on me. I called Apple and got a very friendly tech Amy to help me get my MacBook going again. She like another tech in the Walnut Street store installed Malwarebytes on my MacBook and helped me to clear out my cashe. My question is: Is it worth $40 a year to get this program? Does anyone here have experience with this program?

Do you currently have any other virus/malware protection on your computer? Out of those available I like Norton - I have 3 licenses that I rotate to my machines and it auto bills ($100 a year for all 3). If you don’t have a program for this type of protection - yes - it is a good thing to have.

155
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:32:59am
156
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:33:01am

re: #150 PhillyPretzel

OT I have a question regarding malware. Last night my MacBook Air locked up on me. I called Apple and got a very friendly tech Amy to help me get my MacBook going again. She like another tech in the Walnut Street store installed Malwarebytes on my MacBook and helped me to clear out my cashe. My question is: Is it worth $40 a year to get this program? Does anyone here have experience with this program?

I have never used it on a subscription basis, but it’s my number two, after Avast, if I have to fix someone’s computer.

157
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:34:07am

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Happy for him. Hope he can survive Trump.

158
makeitstop  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:37:06am

re: #150 PhillyPretzel

OT I have a question regarding malware. Last night my MacBook Air locked up on me. I called Apple and got a very friendly tech Amy to help me get my MacBook going again. She like another tech in the Walnut Street store installed Malwarebytes on my MacBook and helped me to clear out my cache. My question is: Is it worth $40 a year to get this program? Does anyone here have experience with this program?

I’ve got the free version on both of my laptops, and that works fine for me. The only thing I don’t like about it is the nag screen that tries to get me to buy the full version.

159
TedStriker  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:40:07am

re: #154 CongoJack

Do you currently have any other virus/malware protection on your computer? Out of those available I like Norton - I have 3 licenses that I rotate to my machines and it auto bills ($100 a year for all 3). If you don’t have a program for this type of protection - yes - it is a good thing to have.

FYI for Comcast Internet customers: you already get Norton Internet Security, PC or Mac, for free with your service.

internetsecurity.xfinity.com

Me, I haven’t used Norton regularly in years because it got all bloated through the 00s and early-10s, though I’ve heard that’s been somewhat ameliorated in recent years (since Windows 10, I rely on MS’ built-in antivirus/antimalware suite, because it seems to work well and is integrated into the OS, as it should be these days), but a decent 3rd-party antivirus/antimalware suite for free, especially for Apple’s macOS which doesn’t include something as comprehensive as Windows Defender/Windows Security, is pretty good.

160
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:40:12am

JFC

161
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:42:11am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG. I would not want to go through that.

162
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:46:29am

re: #161 PhillyPretzel

OMG. I would not want to go through that.

Talk about PTSD inducing.

163
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:46:55am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

An @ISTAmembers just testified to the Senate Education Committee that teachers have reported being shot with pellet guns during school safety training. Gail Zeharalis said teachers reported hearing “screaming” and the bullets resulted in welts and blood…

Is this supposed to be vaccination against real bullets?

164
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:47:04am

re: #150 PhillyPretzel

OT I have a question regarding malware. Last night my MacBook Air locked up on me. I called Apple and got a very friendly tech Amy to help me get my MacBook going again. She like another tech in the Walnut Street store installed Malwarebytes on my MacBook and helped me to clear out my cache. My question is: Is it worth $40 a year to get this program? Does anyone here have experience with this program?

I would like to thank everyone for their views. I have until April to make up my mind. Again thank you for your suggestions.

165
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:47:23am

As the pilots of the doomed Boeing jets in Ethiopia and Indonesia fought to control their planes, they lacked two notable safety features in their cockpits.

One reason: Boeing charged extra for them.

For Boeing and other aircraft manufacturers, the practice of charging to upgrade a standard plane can be lucrative. Top airlines around the world must pay handsomely to have the jets they order fitted with customized add-ons.

Sometimes these optional features involve aesthetics or comfort, like premium seating, fancy lighting or extra bathrooms. But other features involve communication, navigation or safety systems, and are more fundamental to the plane’s operations.

Many airlines, especially low-cost carriers like Indonesia’s Lion Air, have opted not to buy them — and regulators don’t require them.

Now, in the wake of the two deadly crashes involving the same jet model, Boeing will make one of those safety features standard as part of a fix to get the planes in the air again.

166
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:48:43am
167
Citizen K  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:49:20am

re: #165 Belafon

Sometimes these optional features involve aesthetics or comfort, like premium seating, fancy lighting or extra bathrooms. But other features involve communication, navigation or safety systems, and are more fundamental to the plane’s operations.

Many airlines, especially low-cost carriers like Indonesia’s Lion Air, have opted not to buy them — and regulators don’t require them.

Now, in the wake of the two deadly crashes involving the same jet model, Boeing will make one of those safety features standard as part of a fix to get the planes in the air again.

Almost this is why regulations exist: so it doesn’t require mass casualties to force companies to add in basic fucking safety measures and use them to extort customers.

168
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:50:43am

and in Kentucky, Bevin relaxed all the nursing home oversight regs

169
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:52:23am

Canada just beat Russia in the women’s world curling event.

I got much pleasure from this win.

170
sagehen  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:52:54am

re: #110 MsJ

What infuriates me about this whole school scandal is that Mr Macy is hardly ever mentioned but his wife and Lori Loughlin are the face of this scandal. I hear about women over and over again but the men in this scandal are barely mentioned.

As a woman this frustrates the fuck out of me. All of them deserve this infamy but only the women, is appears, are the wrongdoers here.

In the case Huffman and Loughlin… they’re on tape, their husbands aren’t. They wrote e-mails, their husbands didn’t. There’d be an extra level of difficulty proving the hubs were in on it, or even aware of it (no matter how obvious it is that they must have been).

171
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:53:24am

re: #169 MsJ

In that case there is no such thing as too much pleasure. :)

172
Old Liberal  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:54:42am

re: #150 PhillyPretzel

OT I have a question regarding malware. Last night my MacBook Air locked up on me. I called Apple and got a very friendly tech Amy to help me get my MacBook going again. She like another tech in the Walnut Street store installed Malwarebytes on my MacBook and helped me to clear out my cache. My question is: Is it worth $40 a year to get this program? Does anyone here have experience with this program?

Malware bytes is available as a free program. The free version doesn’t automatically scan and there are other features available with the paid version but the free version will find the same problems and allow you to address them. I manually launch once per week. AFAIK Malwarebytes focuses on things like spyware adware and such. I got it because I thought someone had put spyware on my pc. Use Norton as primary and Malwarebytes weekly.

173
Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:54:56am

“Hey, I’m going fishing with my gun!” Florida, perhaps?

Man tries fishing with a shotgun. Obviously gone wrong.

174
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:56:33am

re: #173 Skip Intro

“Hey, I’m going fishing with my gun!” Florida, perhaps?

[Embedded content]

Video

My brother-in-law used to go bowfishing with a line and reel attached to his arrows.

175
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 8:56:38am

O_o

176
Man, DangerMan  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:00:09am

re: #165 Belafon

As the pilots of the doomed Boeing jets in Ethiopia and Indonesia fought to control their planes, they lacked two notable safety features in their cockpits.

One reason: Boeing charged extra for them.

For Boeing and other aircraft manufacturers, the practice of charging to upgrade a standard plane can be lucrative. Top airlines around the world must pay handsomely to have the jets they order fitted with customized add-ons.

lucrative my ass - that’s a sales technique - upselling for profits.

i wonder what they cost

177
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:04:28am

New research targets anti-vaccination comments on Facebook

Historically, anti-vaccination rhetoric has focused on misplaced fears about autism after a fraudulent study by disgraced researcher Andrew Wakefield claimed there was a link. The study has since been retracted and studies continue to report no such link. Today’s study reports that misinformation about vaccines on Facebook appears to have multiplied beyond fears of autism to include four main themes: mistrust of science and government agencies; fear of safety risks; belief in conspiracy theories, and support of alternative disease treatments. The researchers also found that the same stories and videos from anti-vaccination groups tend to recirculate among people who oppose vaccines.

Ultimately it all comes back to the final category, “support of alternative disease treatments.” The snake-oil industry, “Big Woo,” is the financial engine driving anti-vaxx. Its leaders should be held accountable, up to and including the Julius Streicher seat in an international tribunal if their lies cause a real pandemic.

178
wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:05:42am

re: #176 Man, DangerMan

lucrative my ass - that’s a sales technique - upselling for profits.

i wonder what they cost

I’d like a couple of ‘extras’. Indoor seating and outdoor wings.

179
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:07:04am

re: #178 wrenchwench

And do not forget windshields for the pilots. /half

180
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:08:12am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

[Embedded content]

And this is what the GOP wants to put us through instead of taking action on guns…

181
wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:08:42am

re: #179 PhillyPretzel

And do not forget windshields for the pilots. /half

Pressurization of the cabin, too. At least for the pilots.

182
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:09:32am

re: #177 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

New research targets anti-vaccination comments on Facebook

Ultimately it all comes back to the final category, “support of alternative disease treatments. The snake-oil industry, “Big Woo,” is the financial engine driving anti-vaxx. Its leaders should be held accountable, up to and including the Julius Streicher seat in an international tribunal if their lies cause a real pandemic.

There is a general distrust of Big Pharma and Western Medicine, while other distrust Big Government and Modern Science (unless it is being used to develop means to kill people or bugs or weeds).

183
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:11:52am

Before World War II the government typically bought planes without engines, radios, bombsights, etc. These items were “government furnished equipment.” They were either taken from storage or bought from other contractors, then shipped to the airframe contractor for installation during the assembly process. Some items, especially armament and classified sytems, were installed by the user service after delivery. This was abandoned in favor of the prime contractor system, where the airframe contractor bought everything from sub-contractors, assembled it, and sold it to the government.

184
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:13:20am

re: #180 Eclectic Cyborg

And this is what the GOP wants to put us through instead of taking action on guns…

And that kind of stuff is going to discourage a lot of people who otherwise would be interested in being teachers.

185
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:15:43am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

I was a tutor of English in college and I would not want to go through that.

186
retired cynic  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:16:34am

I would enjoy eating here once. More often if the food is good!

Europe’s First Underwater Restaurant Doubles as a Marine Research Center

187
Man, DangerMan  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:17:00am

re: #177 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

New research targets anti-vaccination comments on Facebook

Ultimately it all comes back to the final category, “support of alternative disease treatments. The snake-oil industry, “Big Woo,” is the financial engine driving anti-vaxx. Its leaders should be held accountable, up to and including the Julius Streicher seat in an international tribunal if their lies cause a real pandemic.

there is no “alternative” - whether it’s health in general or ‘disease treatment’
there are no ‘mysterious’, or ancient ‘secrets’ or ‘big pharma doesnt want you to know’..

there is what’s proven to work - we call that medicine*
where everything passes the same standards, techniques and processes - we call that science

alternatives to medicine and science are not medicine, not science and categorically do not work

if they worked, they’d be part of medicine, and wouldnt have or need any special designation

no ‘alternative’ necessary

* yes there is cutting edge or exploratory or developing medicine that is not yet proven (and certainly may not ever be)

188
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:18:10am

re: #185 PhillyPretzel

I was a tutor of English in college and I would not want to go through that.

I don’t blame you.

189
Man, DangerMan  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:20:16am

re: #185 PhillyPretzel

I was a tutor of English in college and I would not want to go through that.

were they told to sit there and take being shot?
why werent they told to fight or do something/anything?

190
retired cynic  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:21:24am

One more: remember the kitty photo taken from underneath a glass table top? Here’s a bunch of them:

The View From Down Under: “Under-Cats” Celebrates Cats at a New Angle

Both of these are from the website This is Colossal.

191
Mike Lamb  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:22:41am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

and in Kentucky, Bevin relaxed all the nursing home oversight regs

Serious question: how is this not grounds for a charge of child endangerment? Forget the vaccination aspect. He deliberately exposed his kids to a serious disease with the intent that they catch said disease.

192
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:23:02am

re: #189 Man, DangerMan

were they told to sit there and take being shot?
why werent they told to fight or do something/anything?

“We’re going to keep shooting you until you want a gun.”

193
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:23:28am

re: #187 Man, DangerMan

if they worked, they’d be part of medicine, and wouldnt have or need any special designation

This.

While I wish every medicine and/or procedure could be double-blind; placebo controlled, there are some situations where that is neither feasible, nor possible. But, the idea that many anecdotes == data is very bad for the science of medical treatment.

194
makeitstop  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:23:39am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

[Embedded content]

I would have ended up punching the living snot out of whoever turned that gun on me. That’s just sadistic.

195
jaunte  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:23:53am
196
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:25:18am

re: #189 Man, DangerMan

The only thing I was told to do was to help students with grammar, spelling, punctuation and general research. The other duties I had were: starting the computers in the back of the room, filing and sorting (one of the profs was a stickler for making sure that the college got their money’s worth out of us). And if any tutor (students or teachers) was threatened we had to call security.

197
jaunte  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:26:52am

The traditional fascist impulses of the GOP are very excited about all the new technology available.

198
jaunte  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:27:53am

“…The budget also calls for cuts to Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) — not the first such proposal under the Trump administration. The new program is designed to solve a problem — widespread disability fraud — that experts say does not exist. In fact, there is no evidence of such large-scale malfeasance. Trying to adjudicate disability by monitoring social media will be, at best, an exercise in bias confirmation and, at worst, will represent a major expansion of the surveillance state, focused on some of America’s most vulnerable citizens.”

199
MsJ  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:28:30am

re: #189 Man, DangerMan

were they told to sit there and take being shot?
why werent they told to fight or do something/anything?

The more scared you make them the more they will want to be armed to protect themselves.

Conservatism is all about fear. And retribution.

200
HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:29:07am

re: #198 jaunte

“…The budget also calls for cuts to Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) — not the first such proposal under the Trump administration. The new program is designed to solve a problem — widespread disability fraud — that experts say does not exist. In fact, there is no evidence of such large-scale malfeasance. Trying to adjudicate disability by monitoring social media will be, at best, an exercise in bias confirmation and, at worst, will represent a major expansion of the surveillance state, focused on some of America’s most vulnerable citizens.”

Cuts to programs to prevent fraud make no sense at all.

201
jaunte  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:30:06am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

This is of a piece with the huge efforts to protect against virtually nonexistent in-person voter fraud.

202
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:34:13am

re: #201 jaunte

Exactly. As I have said before where I am a committee person/minority inspector if anyone wanted to vote and their name was not in our books they were given a provisional ballot. These ballots are throughly checked after the election and if they are proven valid the votes are accepted.

203
Man, DangerMan  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:36:10am

re: #191 Mike Lamb

Serious question: how is this not grounds for a charge of child endangerment? Forget the vaccination aspect. He deliberately exposed his kids to a serious disease with the intent that they catch said disease.

it’s not a serious threat. not a big deal. the kids did fine. hardly anyone ever dies

oh wait, the same argument for vaccines

204
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:36:46am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a general distrust of Big Pharma and Western Medicine, while other distrust Big Government and Modern Science (unless it is being used to develop means to kill people or bugs or weeds).

It’s Big Pharma that gave us the opioid epidemic. Although not developed here, it was German Big Pharma that gave the world thalidomide and it’s only one woman at the FDA who stopped it from reaching this nation, an agency that pharmaceutical firms want to render toothless. Western medicine saves countless lives but too much is driven by profits rather than finding the best treatment.

205
Man, DangerMan  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:38:10am

re: #193 Colère Tueur de Lapin

This.

While I wish every medicine and/or procedure could be double-blind; placebo controlled, there are some situations where that is neither feasible, nor possible. But, the idea that many anecdotes == data is very bad for the science of medical treatment.

‘doubt’ and desperation are great for the ‘alternative’ industry

206
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:38:10am

re: #204 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s Big Pharma that gave us the opioid epidemic. Although not developed here, it was German Big Pharma that gave the world thalidomide and it’s only one woman at the FDA who stopped it from reaching this nation, an agency that pharmaceutical firms want to render toothless. Western medicine saves countless lives but too much is driven by profits rather than finding the best treatment.

Yes, they are not without their faults: we have a food industry that is little concerned with health and a healthcare industry that focuses on pills and prescriptions rather than diet.

207
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:39:35am

re: #204 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s Big Pharma that gave us the opioid epidemic. Although not developed here, it was German Big Pharma that gave the world thalidomide and it’s only one woman at the FDA who stopped it from reaching this nation, an agency that pharmaceutical firms want to render toothless. Western medicine saves countless lives but too much is driven by profits rather than finding the best treatment.

Sick people are more profitable to a pharmaceutical company than healthy people.

208
jaunte  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:42:48am
209
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:45:05am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Cuts to programs to prevent fraud make no sense at all.

Spending more money to investigate fraud makes more sense. If people were afraid of getting caught (and that often applies to medical professionals), they may be more reluctant to engage in such activities. We see this all the time: the government programs to stop fraud are woefully underfunded, especially in dealing with people of wealth and power.

210
Man, DangerMan  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:48:12am

re: #209 Hecuba’s daughter

Spending more money to investigate fraud makes more sense. If people were afraid of getting caught (and that often applies to medical professionals), they may be more reluctant to engage in such activities. We see this all the time: the government programs to stop fraud are woefully underfunded, especially in dealing with people of wealth and power.

i.r.s.

211
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:51:39am
212
Man, DangerMan  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:55:04am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

THESE DONUTS ARE INNOCENT NJ TRANSIT

‘these are not the donuts you’re looking for’ ?

213
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 9:58:04am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Round up the usual suspects. Chocolate, cinnamon, jelly, creme, and sprinkles.

214
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:00:44am

re: #213 PhillyPretzel

Round up the usual suspects. Chocolate, cinnamon, jelly, creme, and sprinkles.

probably was the bear claws

215
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:03:17am

re: #213 PhillyPretzel

Round up the usual suspects. Chocolate, cinnamon, jelly, creme, and sprinkles.

Your alibi is full of holes!!!

216
Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:03:44am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Well, he is a genuine snowflakey liar.

217
makeitstop  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:05:33am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

probably was the bear claws

Them crullers are damn sneaky, too.

218
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:06:52am

re: #208 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So Roger invokes the 5th!

He knows that he’s going to jail.

219
Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:07:11am

re: #197 jaunte

The traditional fascist impulses of the GOP are very excited about all the new technology available.

I wonder if any DRUmpfloving DI folks are worried….

220
William Lewis  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:07:32am

re: #165 Belafon

WTF?!? An ANGLE OF ATTACK gauge in extra? That’s a basic instrument, not an add on. Is there a mechanical gyro horizon for backup? I know everyone is all glass cockpit these days but there has to be some basic backups right?

221
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:08:01am

re: #217 makeitstop

And I do not trust those croissants either.

222
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:08:23am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Cuts to programs to prevent fraud make no sense at all.

Tell me about it.

I was involved in our regional Antifraud task force that met every 2 weeks to review fraud investigations…UNTIL THE BUDGET WAS CUT…

223
Jay C  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:08:46am

re: #213 PhillyPretzel

Round up the usual suspects. Chocolate, cinnamon, jelly, creme, and sprinkles.

I’ve heard of ridiculous sponsorships, but this really takes the cake!

224
Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:09:20am

re: #113 steve_davis

just watched a Numbers episode (hey, I was bored, and Amazon has all the episodes) where I learned (possibly) that there is a theory that all photons come in pairs, and that regardless of where they find themselves, they maintain some kind of resonance with one another (they didn’t use that word. that’s my non-science word that sort of makes sense to me). So something’s happening down there. What it is ain’t exactly clear.

Entanglement

225
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:11:51am

To quote Lee Harvey Oswald as he was being hauled off “I’m just the pastry here!”

226
Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:12:17am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

Calm down, no worries. This is just the first of many adjustments to be made as we begin returning to the days of the wild, wild west and we transition to a totally armed society, making an America safe for gunz. Nothing to see here. Please disperse.

////

227
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:12:51am

Gee, thanks Netflix…

228
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:13:42am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

Now do you prefer hip waders and a shovel or a backhoe to get out of that mess? //

230
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:15:11am

And another policy that would make the world a safer place: if CEO’s went to prison for extended periods of time for corporate decisions that harmed others. For example, everyone in the chain of command at Boeing who thought that customers should pay for features essential to the safety of the plane should be locked up and personally required to pay significant fines for voluntary manslaughter. The CEO should not be permitted to claim they were unaware of decisions that were designed to increase profits at the expense of safety. Likewise, the corporate management at BP should have been imprisoned for the murder of 11 employees and the untold damage to the environment. The entire management of Purdue Pharma should be in prison.

We cannot continue to allow the rich and powerful to escape punishment — including prison time and high fines for the damage they have inflicted on this nation.

231
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:15:18am

re: #227 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gee, thanks Netflix…

[Embedded content]

My wife watched the “Leaving Neverland” documentary over the weekend.

232
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:18:18am

re: #231 Belafon

My wife watched the “Leaving Neverland” documentary over the weekend.

I started watching it last night and, at least for now, gave up in the middle of part 1 because it was too upsetting.

233
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:18:52am

re: #231 Belafon

My wife watched the “Leaving Neverland” documentary over the weekend.

I can’t watch it. I know how sleazy Jackson was.

234
makeitstop  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:21:29am

re: #223 Jay C

I’ve heard of ridiculous sponsorships, but this really takes the cake!

I hear tell there’s a lot of dough in sponsorships…

235
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:23:04am

They have a Dunkin Donuts shop inside the main Metro station in downtown Los Angeles.

236
Old Liberal  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:23:06am

re: #230 Hecuba’s daughter

And another policy that would make the world a safer place: if CEO’s went to prison for extended periods of time for corporate decisions that harmed others. For example, everyone in the chain of command at Boeing who thought that customers should pay for features essential to the safety of the plane should be locked up and personally required to pay significant fines for voluntary manslaughter. The CEO should not be permitted to claim they were unaware of decisions that were designed to increase profits at the expense of safety. Likewise, the corporate management at BP should have been imprisoned for the murder of 11 employees and the untold damage to the environment. The entire management of Purdue Pharma should be in prison.

We cannot continue to allow the rich and powerful to escape punishment — including prison time and high fines for the damage they have inflicted on this nation.

Corporations are/are not people my friend.
///

237
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:24:46am

And now he pours more gasoline on the fire…

238
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:25:25am

re: #236 Old Liberal

Corporations are/are not people my friend.
///

Mitt Romney should be one to understand the distinction between between a legal and a natural person.

He was just being an arrogant dickhead.

239
Mike Lamb  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:26:21am

re: #230 Hecuba’s daughter

And another policy that would make the world a safer place: if CEO’s went to prison for extended periods of time for corporate decisions that harmed others. For example, everyone in the chain of command at Boeing who thought that customers should pay for features essential to the safety of the plane should be locked up and personally required to pay significant fines for voluntary manslaughter. The CEO should not be permitted to claim they were unaware of decisions that were designed to increase profits at the expense of safety. Likewise, the corporate management at BP should have been imprisoned for the murder of 11 employees and the untold damage to the environment. The entire management of Purdue Pharma should be in prison.

We cannot continue to allow the rich and powerful to escape punishment — including prison time and high fines for the damage they have inflicted on this nation.

Generally agree with your sentiment, but I think it’s hard to put someone in jail when the product/company was in compliance with existing regulations. A company that deliberately evades existing regs? Drop the hammer on the CEO. But if they were complying with the shitty existing regs, it’s tougher.

240
Belafon  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:27:44am

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now he pours more gasoline on the fire…

I can’t wait for him to declare Taiwan’s independence as well.

241
Teukka  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:30:34am

re: #240 Belafon

I can’t wait for him to declare Taiwan’s independence as well.

Shh! Don’t give ‘em ideas!

242
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:31:07am

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now he pours more gasoline on the fire…

[Embedded content]

make him show Golan Heights on a map and explain the details of exactly how it is of critical strategic and security importance.

243
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:32:00am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

make him show Golan Heights on a map and explain the details of exactly how it is of critical strategic and security importance.

I do wonder who talked him into that outburst, he is not one to be concerned about it on his own…

244
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:33:41am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do wonder who talked him into that outburst, he is not one to be concerned about it on his own…

I guarantee that he does not have the first clue of what he just tweeted.
Just “ISRAEL”!!!111!!!!

245
Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:34:03am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

make him show Golan Heights on a map and explain the details of exactly how it is of critical strategic and security importance.

Points to Italy:
It’s Very Important, strategic regional stability long time. Critical!

246
Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:35:25am

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now he pours more gasoline on the fire…

Something wrong with this tweet. Doesn’t contain “Crooked Hillary” or “Obama” or “McCain”.

/

247
retired cynic  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:35:36am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do wonder who talked him into that outburst, he is not one to be concerned about it on his own…

Netanyahu is coming in a couple of days.

248
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:36:50am

re: #247 retired cynic

Netanyahu is coming in a couple of days.

And Donald wants to build a Golan Heights Casino…

249
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:36:54am

re: #247 retired cynic

Ahh. That explains that text. Now do we have any explanations for the others?

250
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:38:57am

Uh oh!

Change your Facebook passwords, folks!

thehill.com

Facebook announced on Thursday that “hundreds of millions” of users’ passwords had been stored in unprotected plain text accessible by the company’s employees.

251
retired cynic  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:39:47am
…you’ll look at George Conway a whole different way if you remember Martha Mitchell.

juanitajean.com

252
BeachDem  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:40:27am

re: #170 sagehen

In the case Huffman and Loughlin… they’re on tape, their husbands aren’t. They wrote e-mails, their husbands didn’t. There’d be an extra level of difficulty proving the hubs were in on it, or even aware of it (no matter how obvious it is that they must have been).

Except that Loughlin’s husband was also named/indicted. And—

although Macy isn’t on tape, he is definitely named (although, only as “spouse”) in the first daughter incident—per the charging docs:

HUFFMAN and her spouse made a purported charitable contribution of $15,000 to KWF…

prior to the December 2017 SAT, CW-1 met with HUFFMAN and her spouse in their Los Angeles home and explained, in substance, how the college entrance exam scheme worked. According to CW-1, he advised HUFFMAN and her spouse that he “controlled” a testing center, and could arrange for a third party to purport to proctor their daughter’s SAT and secretly correct her answers afterwards. CW-1 has advised investigators that HUFFMAN and her spouse agreed to the plan…

On or about February 27, 2018, HUFFMAN and her spouse made a purported contribution of $15,000 to KWF.

justice.gov

So I don’t understand how Macy is skating on all of it.

253
Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:42:50am
254
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:44:03am

Was there not some initiative to have the UN occupy the Golan Heights at some point?

255
Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:44:41am

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Upding for President Shouting at the TV.

256
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:45:27am

Well here is some good news!

A neo-Nazi website operator must disclose his net worth to attorneys for a Montana real estate agent who sued him for orchestrating an anti-Semitic “troll storm” against her family.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Jeremiah Lynch on Tuesday ordered The Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin to turn over a financial statement of his current net worth by March 29 or else the court will impose sanctions against him.

Tanya Gersh sued Anglin in Montana in April 2017, claiming anonymous internet trolls bombarded her family with hateful and threatening messages after Anglin published their personal information, including her 12-year-old son’s Twitter handle and photo.

talkingpointsmemo.com

257
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:46:31am

re: #256 Joe Bacon 🌹

Good. Fuck Nazis.

258
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:47:25am

Motor madness! Looks like fun.

Facebook Video

259
Jay C  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:48:40am

re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Was there not some initiative to have the UN occupy the Golan Heights at some point?

ISTR that the plan, floated (15? Yrs ago?) was to demilitarize the Heights as some sort of “National Park” or other (? and nominally return it to Syrian sovereignty?), but, as usual, it went nowhere.

260
BeachDem  Mar 21, 2019 • 10:48:50am

re: #247 retired cynic

Netanyahu is coming in a couple of days.

And in a chicken/egg situation, was Bibi really just post-pleased or pre-suggestive?

261
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:00:36am

The Rapture Ready folks are having an orgasm over the latest item Tweetler posted.

262
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:01:17am

re: #260 BeachDem

And in a chicken/egg situation, was Bibi really just post-pleased or pre-suggestive?

[Embedded content]

Pre-suggestive. 100% confident of this

263
KerFuFFler  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:03:03am

re: #191 Mike Lamb

Serious question: how is this not grounds for a charge of child endangerment? Forget the vaccination aspect. He deliberately exposed his kids to a serious disease with the intent that they catch said disease.

When my kids were little there was still not a vaccine for chicken pox. When our younger son contracted it we encouraged our kids to play together so the older kid would catch it too. (This was common at the time because chicken pox tends get more severe and risky in older patients———-better to contract it when you are seven rather than when you are 15 or even older!) Before the vaccine I had even heard of people having pox parties to make sure that kids got it over with when they were young.

But if Bevin could have had his kids vaccinated for chicken pox then it was just cruel and unnecessary to expose them.

264
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:05:47am

re: #263 KerFuFFler

When my kids were little there was still not a vaccine for chicken pox. When our younger son contracted it we encouraged our kids to play together so the older kid would catch it too. (This was common at the time because chicken pox tends get more severe and risky in older patients———-better to contract it when you are seven rather than when you are 15 or even older!) Before the vaccine I had even heard of people having pox parties to make sure that kids got it over with when they were young.

But if Bevin could have had his kids vaccinated for chicken pox then it was just cruel and unnecessary to expose them.

It was NO FUN when I was a kid. 2 of my sisters and I got it at the same time and Mom was almost at the breaking point handling that. One of the neighbors had to stay at our house for a while to help Mom.

265
PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:08:23am

re: #264 Joe Bacon 🌹

I had them when I was younger too. It was not fun. :(

266
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:10:03am

re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Rapture Ready folks are having an orgasm over the latest item Tweetler posted.

Yes, and remember, a lot of Fundamentalists who “support Israel” do not give a flying f*ck about Judaism or the Jews, they just want a restored Temple in Jerusalem to help fulfill their End Times death cult prophecies.

267
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:10:13am

re: #264 Joe Bacon 🌹

It was NO FUN when I was a kid. 2 of my sisters and I got it at the same time and Mom was almost at the breaking point handling that. One of the neighbors had to stay at our house for a while to help Mom.

Chicken pox almost killed me. I got it as a toddler in the mid-50s. All of the pox outbreaks were in my mouth and throat.

268
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:10:53am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, and remember, a lot of Fundamentalists who “support Israel” do not give a flying f*ck about Judaism or the Jews, they just want a restored Temple in Jerusalem to help fulfill their End Times death cult prophecies.

Bottom line—these Radical Xtians such as John Hagee want to finish what Hitler started.

269
Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:11:39am

re: #263 KerFuFFler

When my kids were little there was still not a vaccine for chicken pox. When our younger son contracted it we encouraged our kids to play together so the older kid would catch it too. (This was common at the time because chicken pox tends get more severe and risky in older patients———-better to contract it when you are seven rather than when you are 15 or even older!) Before the vaccine I had even heard of people having pox parties to make sure that kids got it over with when they were young.

But if Bevin could have had his kids vaccinated for chicken pox then it was just cruel and unnecessary to expose them.

Yeah I don’t think it was available when I was a kid, or at least I remember schoolmates getting sick with it. I ended up getting sick with the chickenpox when I was 28 (I worked in a doctor’s office with lots of kids coming through, etc).

270
Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:12:16am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chicken pox almost killed me. I got it as a toddler in the mid-50s. All of the pox outbreaks were in my mouth and throat.

Yikes

271
retired cynic  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:21:40am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chicken pox almost killed me. I got it as a toddler in the mid-50s. All of the pox outbreaks were in my mouth and throat.

Juanita Jean has her own take on the jerk: Father of the Year

272
A Three Hour Tour  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:26:58am

re: #269 Sir John Barron

Yeah I don’t think it was available when I was a kid, or at least I remember schoolmates getting sick with it. I ended up getting sick with the chickenpox when I was 28 (I worked in a doctor’s office with lots of kids coming through, etc).

I contracted chickenpox in March, 1991 at the age of 24, after having successfully avoided contact for decades with affected cousins when they had their childhood bouts. I suspect that I had encountered someone’s kid out in public during their contagious period before they presented symptoms.

Anyway, while I was at the Emergency Room getting checked out, the doctor told me that they expected to have a chickenpox vaccine on the market within a couple of years.

Of course, due to exposure to me during MY asymptomatic contagious period, my then 6-month old son contracted it in very short order.

273
Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2019 • 11:49:41am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

[Embedded content]

Teaching them how to get shot? Something you never last long enough to become an expert in I guess.

274
Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2019 • 1:08:55pm

re: #258 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Motor madness! Looks like fun.

[Embedded content]

Ha, what’s that character in the sprint car doing out there among all them.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
Cheechako
6 days ago
Views: 161 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 326 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1