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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:32:35pm

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:40:54pm
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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:42:00pm

Carrying over from Trump wine discussion in last thread, Trump owns a winery in VA, outside Charlottesville, and he touted it even while the white supremacists rioting was still fresh in everyone’s mind.

Trump may be trying to tout his own winery, but his wines suck. He oversells the size and scope of his winery, and nothing adds up (par for the course). How he even got into the winery business is a tale of scheming and conning everyone:

The real reason Trump helped out his old friend was the chance to buy the estate for a predatory price, so laughably low that the bank which had seized the house kept refusing his offers. So he went around them, buying 217 acres that surrounded the mansion—in effect, the front lawn—from the trustees for Kluge’s adopted son; then the 776-acre vineyard for $6.2 million, plus $1.7 million in equipment and leftover wine; then the mansion itself, for $6.5 million. Kluge had initially put the mansion alone on the market for $100 million. At the time of the sale, Rausse recalls, “she said, ‘Gabriele, don’t worry—he’s my friend.’ ” And, indeed, Trump hired Kluge as director of the winery. A year later, he fired her. Kluge, who now sells jewelry, called Town & Country’s Sam Dangremond last August to dis the wines after Trump made his preposterous claim about the winery’s size. “The wine is not good anymore,” she told Dangremond. “I have had several people in Palm Beach lament that it’s the only wine they have on the menu at Mar-a-Lago.” She did credit the official owner and current president of the winery for keeping up the grounds: Eric “is doing a great job at maintenance,” she said.

The professional tasters have found his wines wanting. His own hotel restaurant steers people away from it to others; they have it on the menu because they have to, not because anyone wants to drink it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:43:46pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:44:06pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Sure. Let’s start with tax records….

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:45:27pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:46:06pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Criswell Bacon has predicted all along that Trump will have Hillary and Obama indicted. This is what happens when people including Presstitute Reporters, Religious leaders, CEO’s and Congress refuse to stand up to him and smack his sorry ass down.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:46:10pm

Left hanging like a chad in Florida on the last thread:

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

The hearings took FOREVER with Watergate. And Nixon wasn’t stonewalling anywhere near as much as Trump is/will.

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

Where “forever” equaled fifteen months.

And Nixon stalled on all sorts of crap. He even went to the Supreme Court to prevent his tapes from being released, and went to court over a whole bunch of crap.

He initially denied any knowledge of what happened.

The media initially was supportive of Nixon during his reëlection campaign, but when the Washington Post made the connexion between the DNC Headquarters break-in and Nixon operatives, the press started to turn against him (you can make just as much money tearing down a president as you can building one up).

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:47:34pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Look at the book deal?

We already have Obama’s tax returns from while he was in office (actually from 2000 to 2015). They’ve been public knowledge all along.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:48:01pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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The actions of an innocent man.//

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:48:12pm

Maybe Obama got a book deal because Obama can actually write and has a compelling story. Please look into it. Investigate Hillary. Go for it asshole.

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DangerMan  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:48:20pm

re: #3 lawhawk

Carrying over from Trump wine discussion in last thread, Trump owns a winery in VA, outside Charlottesville, and he touted it even while the white supremacists rioting was still fresh in everyone’s mind.

Trump may be trying to tout his own winery, but his wines suck. He oversells the size and scope of his winery, and nothing adds up (par for the course). How he even got into the winery business is a tale of scheming and conning everyone:

The professional tasters have found his wines wanting. His own hotel restaurant steers people away from it to others; they have it on the menu because they have to, not because anyone wants to drink it.

like I CL’d

no one bought that bilge water before
no one’s gonna buy it now cause the price of better stuff actual wine goes up

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:49:20pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Look at the book deal?

We already have Obama’s tax returns from while he was in office (actually from 2000 to 2015). They’ve been public knowledge all along.

He doesn’t know that. He didn’t know anything until he knew GOP voters were cons whose vote he could get by being King Birther.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:50:27pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

I’ll bet every time Trump launches into one of these demented rants about Obama, in his head he’s replaying that WHCA dinner when Obama mocked him to his face and the whole audience laughed at him.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2019

And everything Trump’s has done to get into the WH and since has been in service to payback for that slight at the WHCD all those years ago.

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DangerMan  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:50:36pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Look at the book deal?

We already have Obama’s tax returns from while he was in office (actually from 2000 to 2015). They’ve been public knowledge all along.

imagine that conversation:
you didnt need a subpoena, you could have just googled

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:51:02pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

In case it wasn’t clear, I see the hearings taking forever as a feature, not a bug, because I suspect that once the ball gets rolling a lot of shit will come pouring out.

But what I mean about stonewalling is that while Nixon did stonewall, his aides all testified, and the IRS turned his taxes over within a day. Trump will fight literally every single thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if the cases all got rolled together somehow for the SCOTUS.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:51:46pm

re: #11 I Would Prefer Not To

Maybe Obama got a book deal because Obama can actually write and has a compelling story. Please look into it. Investigate Hillary. Go for it asshole.

He’ll always be jealous of Obama. Obama won 50% of the voice twice and didn’t need Vlads propaganda help. He also is self made unlike Donnie Daddy Slumlord.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:52:06pm

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

And the Court will claim it’s a political question outside their purview, leaving it a shitshow that favors Trump.

Because of course they will.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:53:02pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Look at the book deal?

We already have Obama’s tax returns from while he was in office (actually from 2000 to 2015). They’ve been public knowledge all along.

Waiting for him to say it was really written by … oh, what was his name?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:53:25pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Waiting for him to say it was really written by … oh, what was his name?

Bill Ayers?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:54:17pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

He’ll always be jealous of Obama. Obama won 50% of the voice twice and didn’t need Vlads propaganda help. He also is self made unlike Donnie Daddy Slumlord.

Probably busts another blood vessel anytime he sees that graph of unemployment where his “Trump Saves The Economy!” is just a continuation of Obama’s trend.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:54:30pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Bill Ayers?

YES!! That’s IT!!!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:54:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:55:20pm

re: #21 Blind Frog Belly White

Probably busts another blood vessel anytime he sees that graph of unemployment where his “Trump Saves The Economy!” is just a continuation of Obama’s trend.

Oh you know it. Obama is an American success story. He’s just a punkass pawn.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:55:55pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

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I’m genuinely worried about my niece’s future if this continues unchallenged.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:56:12pm

For the umpteenth time, these children didn’t murdered Kate Steinle, Jamiel Shaw, Mollie Tibbetts, or any other Americans!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:56:20pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

They’re just indiscriminately targeting brown people now.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:56:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:56:59pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:57:43pm

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

That girl should be in a bedroom somewhere playing with doll houses, or swimming in a creek or learning to play piano.

Not stuck in a fucking internment camp.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:57:45pm

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

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For the umpteenth time, these children didn’t murdered Kate Steinle, Jamiel Shaw, Mollie Tibbetts, or any other Americans!

She could be my niece’s cousin or big sister. A child. Goddamn this administration.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:58:11pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

Sure seems Republicans are worried about something.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:58:22pm

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

For the umpteenth time, these children didn’t murdered Kate Steinle, Jamiel Shaw, Mollie Tibbetts, or any other Americans!

Citizen, douchecanoe.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:59:16pm

Consider how many people we’re calling “media” are functionally entertainers—they read the news from a script, their reactions are basically improv, their interviewers are about creating a sense of authenticity and openness rather than chasing an end. “Debate” are rhetorical exchanges in which no one is held to a standard of veracity because that would require an active, informed, moderator…not an entertainer. What we do see is “access journalism”…which, let’s be honest, is mostly PR set-pieces, but even when an interviewer tries to verify things the guest’s PR training means that straight questions never get answered. And that’s by design. Networks heads are trying to get eyes on screens not present information: the boardroom understanding of “what is news” is “what does the largest slices of demography watch the longest” because that’s where the money is.

We are being presented news-as-theater. Interviewees are Special Guest Stars. Controversy is melodrama. It follows that a great deal of “analysis” that’s crapped out accepts the premise politics-as-theater…how the audience of voters reacts is the measure of success.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:59:26pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

Citizen, douchecanoe.

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Jim can fuck off. She’s a kid. Next time Jim speeds, the government can take away his family and we’ll see if he’s so smug about laws.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:59:36pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

Citizen, douchecanoe.

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Fuck that guy. Seriously.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2019 • 1:59:38pm

re: #11 I Would Prefer Not To

Maybe Obama got a book deal because Obama can actually write and has a compelling story. Please look into it. Investigate Hillary. Go for it asshole.

How is getting a book deal something controversial that needs to be investigated?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:00:25pm

re: #21 Blind Frog Belly White

Probably busts another blood vessel anytime he sees that graph of unemployment where his “Trump Saves The Economy!” is just a continuation of Obama’s trend.

If he is actually shown the entire trend (his handlers may crop the data to his preznitcy) he wouldn’t understand that the rate is a continuation.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:00:51pm

re: #37 Patricia Kayden

How is getting a book deal something controversial that needs to be investigated?

Because Trump can’t stand the fact that 100 years from now Obama will be remembered fondly and he will as a scumbag.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:01:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:01:50pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

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Good. It was frivolous bs. Too bad he’s likely to grow up into a bigoted adult.

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plansbandc  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:02:21pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

Fucking bullies from top to bottom.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:02:21pm

re: #32 Belafon

Sure seems Republicans are worried about something.

Leaving the sinking ship they built.

She gets no sympathy from me, any more than Justin Amash does; they both voted for the same cruel conservative policies.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:03:42pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:04:01pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I’m genuinely worried about my niece’s future if this continues unchallenged.

Challenges are being organised. They are ad hoc right now (people gathering to prevent ICE from dragging off a neighbour, people protesting at their facilities, &c), but as protests continue, they will become more organised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:05:29pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Dismissed WITH prejudice.

Womp, womp asshole.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:06:17pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Surprise, Sean Hannity was wrong about him “destroying” the Washington Post.

I presume that means his Christian legal team has to pay the WP now for their court costs.

Next up: Wingnut welfare circuit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:06:24pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

Challenges are being organised. They are ad hoc right now (people gathering to prevent ICE from dragging off a neighbour, people protesting at their facilities, &c), but as protests continue, they will become more organised.

I know. I’m glad to see that but as the uncle of a Hispanic child, I really worry about the environment created where many Americans despite her natural born citizenship will never see her as their peer despite being a NBC.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:06:28pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:08:16pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

Citizen, douchecanoe.

Things like this will make it easier to respond when these evil people finally launch the genocidal pogrom that is their obvious goal.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:09:00pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Obama black-robed activist!!!!!!!!!!

Narrator - he has no idea who appointed the judge.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:09:11pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Things like this will make it easier to respond when these evil people finally launch the genocidal pogrom that is their obvious goal.

People like him insist they oppose big government yet want a heavy handed response to a child immigrant.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:11:01pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

People like him insist they oppose big government yet want a heavy handed response to a child immigrant.

They oppose big government telling them that they can’t abuse their children or emit mercury from their power plants. Small brown people are fair game.

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:11:04pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Look at the book deal?

We already have Obama’s tax returns from while he was in office (actually from 2000 to 2015). They’ve been public knowledge all along.

Sure, let’s look at the book deal:

Michelle’s book:
en.wikipedia.org

Total book sales, including hardcover, audio and e-books editions, sold around 725,000 copies in the United States and Canada during its first day, making it the second best-selling debut for any book in 2018. Bob Woodward’s Fear: Trump in the White House holds the record after selling around 900,000 copies during its first day. However, Barnes and Noble reported that Becoming surpassed Fear in first-week sales and had more first-week sales of any adult book since Go Set a Watchman in 2015. The book sold 1.4 million copies in its first week. After 15 days, the book became the best-selling book in the US for the year 2018

By March 26, 2019, Becoming had sold 10 million copies.

Tour
Obama went on a national book tour conducted in arenas, often to sold-out crowds. The initial tour included 12 venues in 10 cities, but expanded with its popularity; as of February 2019, another 21 cities had been added, including six in Europe and four in Canada.

Barack’s book hasn’t been released yet. I’m hoping it comes out during the 2020 general campaign, and his promo tour includes a voter registration drive…

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Old Liberal  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:12:17pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Things like this will make it easier to respond when these evil people finally launch the genocidal pogrom that is their obvious goal.

“Under false asylum claims”. Is this based on the asylum hearings they aren’t receiving? Calling them guilty without a hearing? Why I just watched a turnpile of republican say they were aghast that anyone didn’t have a presumption of innocence. But maybe that’s for orange people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:12:56pm

re: #53 Colère Tueur de Lapin

They oppose big government telling them that they can’t abuse their children or emit mercury from their power plants. Small brown people are fair game.

Yep and that’s always been the sham of what is called small government conservative policy.

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ckkatz  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:14:20pm

re: #183 Blind Frog Belly White

(Psssst! We all went to the next thread!)

Ha! CL’ed again…

From last thread a while ago:

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

I was disappointed while watching but having time to listen to clips again, I think he was mostly effective when he needed to be. And it was a two-way street: when the GOP members were yelling at him he got them all flustered with “could you repeat the question?” And Ted Lieu walked him effectively through the necessary elements of obstruction so that, even having supposedly walked back his admission that he would have indicted Trump but for OLC memo, he basically said “hell yes, he obstructed!”

I guess that I look at it as you do. Certainly, 75 year old Mueller is not as energetic as he was when younger. He is from a pre-television day.

A few thoughts…

First, there is a strict dividing line between the politicians who depend upon public personal showing and the technocrats (like Mueller) who shun it. And that dividing line is generally respected.

Mueller is well aware that he was not the real star of the hearings, the Democratic Representatives are. And it was in his interest to not pretend to be. In terms of Mueller, this optics stuff is nonsense. And apparently a Republican talking point.

From what I can see, the tv personas discussing ‘optics’ are simply regurgitating Republican talking points. Whether out of incompetence, being a ‘true believer’, laziness, or dishonesty, they are certainly not doing journalism.

Second, Mueller was FBI director at the time of 9/11. At that point, the FBI conducted two kinds of investigations, criminal and intelligence.

Because of the need for to keep classified information secret, criminal investigations generally avoided attempting to use it. In fact, to avoid tainting a criminal investigation, there was a strict wall between criminal and intelligence investigations. To some degree it was enshrined in the law.

Due to criticism that this wall hindered the FBI attempts to uncover the 9/11 conspiracy, this wall was modified in the aftermath of 9/11.

As far as we can tell, during the investigation, Mueller respected that wall and generally handled the domestic and criminal, rather than intelligence portion. Additionally, after all the criticism about Starr’s handling of the investigation, he was very careful to stay within carefully defined boundaries.

(Edit - cleaned up to handle the fact that I was responding the guy you answered and generally agreeing with you. The original poster had expressed his concern that Mueller was showing signs of mental decline.)

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:14:30pm

FOR THE FUCKING MILLIONTH TIME! THESE CHILDREN DIDN’T KILL ANYONE!

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:16:03pm

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

In case it wasn’t clear, I see the hearings taking forever as a feature, not a bug, because I suspect that once the ball gets rolling a lot of shit will come pouring out.

But what I mean about stonewalling is that while Nixon did stonewall, his aides all testified, and the IRS turned his taxes over within a day. Trump will fight literally every single thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if the cases all got rolled together somehow for the SCOTUS.

It wasn’t until John Dean that the dam really broke; McGahn could be this generation’s John Dean if he wants to.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:16:12pm

4 years ago, but still relevant since Turd is still with us.

Millions Mourn As Rocker/Activist Ted Nugent, Age 68, Found Alive

Millions of Americans are in mourning after news broke this afternoon that rocker/activist Ted Nugent was still alive. Word broke early, spread quickly, and sent shock waves throughout the rock and roll community and the Republican Party, where Nugent, 68, is well-known for his fierce advocacy for conservative causes, unwavering support for the rights of gun owners and hunters, and ferocious loyalty and devotion to today’s true American patriots.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:16:17pm

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

35% of America will not be persuaded by such evidence or cute pictures for that matter. They are more inclined to support the spectrum of White Supremacism and only see a young female of some sort of humanoid who is beneath them.

I don’t know when Republican voting Latinos will recognize they too are in Conservative White America’s crosshairs. They get along great with individuals. But this is a cultural and racial Apartheid campaign currently being waged by 35%. A chunk of this 35% wants the Apartheid and deportation to develop into full blown extermination.

Never forget this.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:16:25pm

re: #58 DodgerFan1988

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FOR THE FUCKING MILLIONTH TIME! THESE CHILDREN DIDN’T KILL ANYONE!

Whatabout the last refuge of scoundrels who have repeatedly failed American children.

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DangerMan  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:16:49pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Jim can fuck off. She’s a kid. Next time Jim speeds, the government can take away his family and we’ll see if he’s so smug about laws.

arent asylum laws ‘the law’ too?

tell me, should a refugee have to know that the president signed some asinine EO after they left their home country and before they arrived at the border AND that the EO is tied up in court and not applicable anyway?

ICE agents are locking up US citizens. is that ‘the law’ too?

these people are asshats

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:17:16pm

David Brooks pulling out his dog whistle to say “white liberals are race traitors.”

As [Zach] Goldberg points out, in 1996 and 2010 about a quarter of white liberals thought racial discrimination was a very serious problem. By 2016, 58 percent did. White liberals have warmer attitudes toward other races than they do toward their own.

Couldn’t have been we saw how conservatives like you and your fellow travelers treated President Obama, Mr. Brooks.

How White Democrats Moved Left
Racial equity has become the defining issue of the moment.

Most of the article is such a dry pile of strawmen that if you light a match within two hundred miles of New York you might burn the whole place down.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:17:28pm

re: #63 DangerMan

arent asylum laws ‘the law’ too?

tell me, should a refugee have to know that the president signed some asinine EO after they left their home country and before they arrived at the border AND that the EO is tied up in court and not applicable anyway?

ICE agents are locking up US citizens. is that ‘the law’ too?

these people are asshats

They are indeed. I’ve tried bringing that up to no avail.

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DangerMan  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:18:24pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

People like him insist they oppose big government yet want a heavy handed response to a child immigrant.

big government = things i dont want
heavy handed etc, = things i agree with

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:18:40pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

David Brooks pulling out his dog whistle to say “white liberals are race traitors.”

Couldn’t have been we saw how conservatives like you and your fellow travelers treated President Obama, Mr. Brooks.

How White Democrats Moved Left
Racial equity has become the defining issue of the moment.

Most of the article is such a dry pile of strawmen that if you light a match within two hundred miles of New York you might burn the whole place down.

He’s right. I do have a more favorable view towards PoC since they don’t take for granted being American. Brooks can fuck off.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:19:12pm

re: #66 DangerMan

big government = things i dont want
heavy handed etc, = things i agree with

True now as it was when WF Buckley was rationalizing Jim Crow.

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Old Liberal  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:19:26pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

They are indeed. I’ve tried bringing that up to no avail.

These fuckers aren’t looking for answers. They’re looking for excuses.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:19:35pm

re: #63 DangerMan

arent asylum laws ‘the law’ too?

tell me, should a refugee have to know that the president signed some asinine EO after they left their home country and before they arrived at the border AND that the EO is tied up in court and not applicable anyway?

ICE agents are locking up US citizens. is that ‘the law’ too?

these people are asshats

Argle bargle they’re faking asylum claims for “reasons.” Never mind we’re supposed to have courts for that precise reason.

It fits into the long-held conservative position that only Americans are covered by the Constitution, and if you don’t look like one, well …

I’m not as dark-skinned as some people they’ve picked up, but dark enough. Fortunately everyone around here knows me.

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DangerMan  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:20:26pm

re: #58 DodgerFan1988

Democrats will immediately open an investigation into the deaths of migrant children brought to America illegally.

Yet, there is not one word from Democrats about all of the American children killed by illegal aliens.

FOR THE FUCKING MILLIONTH TIME! THESE CHILDREN DIDN’T KILL ANYONE!

more people die from falling coconuts each year than ‘american children killed by illegal aliens”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:20:44pm

re: #69 Old Liberal

These fuckers aren’t looking for answers. They’re looking for excuses.

Their whole agenda is one giant resentment after another.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:21:28pm

re: #71 DangerMan

more people die from falling coconuts each year than ‘american children killed by illegal aliens”

More American kids die from guns and we can’t even regulate that but let’s blanket ban children!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:21:30pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

Fuck that guy. Seriously.

Not even with someone else’s [redacted]. Maybe with a rusty unsharpened cactus.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:22:48pm

White left leaning men are in fact a very valuable resource. We have more power than any other group to really move the needle in this country as far as progressive policies are concerned.

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Old Liberal  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:22:49pm

I’ll be visiting the US in September. I plan to speak nothing but Spanish in public. Fuck these fuckers.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:24:39pm

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DangerMan  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:26:24pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:26:51pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:27:20pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Good. It was frivolous bs. Too bad he’s likely to grow up into a bigoted adult.

He is attending a Catholic segregation academy, and his mother works for the PR firm who works with Mitch McConnell’s campaigns.

There’s always hope he could break free of racist programming, but not likely.

Boy did I get pilloried when I responded to the regional newspaper’s publisher, who defended them. My letter excoriated the group (aside from being caught on video harassing Mr. Phillips, they were previously caught on video harassing women on the street).

Catholic school students in viral video not so innocent (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, January 27, 2019, letter to the editor)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:27:36pm

re: #78 DangerMan

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Any normal party would have gotten its shit together after Nixon.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:29:25pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Any normal party would have gotten its shit together after Nixon.

They doubled down. Reagan put Robert Bork up for the Supreme Court as a reward for his part in the Saturday Night Massacre.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:30:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:31:26pm

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

They doubled down. Reagan put Robert Bork up for the Supreme Court as a reward for his part in the Saturday Night Massacre.

Reagan opened up his campaign ranting about states rights where three civil rights workers were kidnapped and murdered. The genius behind that? Name rhymes with Maul Panafort.

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:35:44pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Any normal party would have gotten its shit together after Nixon.

They couldn’t; because most of the Republicans who were embarrassed, ashamed, aghast, or [thesaurus needed] by Nixon stopped being Republicans. And people just reaching early adulthood who would have otherwise become Republicans, didn’t.

This was Round 1 in purging the liberal, moderate, good-government, evidence-believing folks from the party.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:36:48pm

What Were Robespierre’s Pronouns? (Peggy Noonan at the Wall Street Journal)

For a couple weeks wingnuts have been whinging about a guidebook put out by Colorado State University over being mindful about what other people wish to be called. There is nothing in the guidebook about mandatory speech. You wouldn’t be able to tell from Ms. Noonan’s lede:

The French Revolution was led by sociopaths who politicized language, much like today’s Jacobins.

The entire piece is literally comparing the guidebook and being mindful of what other people wish to be called to the bloodshed of the French Revolution.

Okay, Ralph. You look like a Ralph to me; I don’t care that you wish to be called Ms. Noonan. I refuse to surrender to the tyranny of the guillotine by calling you what you want to be called.

Sheesh, and they call us snowflakes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:37:49pm

re: #85 sagehen

They couldn’t; because most of the Republicans who were embarrassed, ashamed, aghast, or [thesaurus needed] by Nixon stopped being Republicans. And people just reaching early adulthood who would have otherwise become Republicans, didn’t.

This was Round 1 in purging the liberal, moderate, good-government, evidence-believing folks from the party.

appalled.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:38:27pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

What Were Robespierre’s Pronouns? (Peggy Noonan at the Wall Street Journal)

For a couple weeks wingnuts have been whinging about a guidebook put out by Colorado State University over being mindful about what other people wish to be called. There is nothing in the guidebook about mandatory speech. You wouldn’t be able to tell from Ms. Noonan’s lede:

The French Revolution was led by sociopaths who politicized language, much like today’s Jacobins.

The entire piece is literally comparing the guidebook and being mindful of what other people wish to be called to the bloodshed of the French Revolution.

Okay, Ralph. You look like a Ralph to me; I don’t care that you wish to be called Ms. Noonan. I refuse to surrender to the tyranny of the guillotine by calling you what you want to be called.

Sheesh, and they call us snowflakes.

Peggy, would you like if people called you Margaret? It’s your name after all. How hard is it to address someone by the pronoun they prefer? You just want to be an ass.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:39:20pm

re: #85 sagehen

They couldn’t; because most of the Republicans who were embarrassed, ashamed, aghast, or [thesaurus needed] by Nixon stopped being Republicans. And people just reaching early adulthood who would have otherwise become Republicans, didn’t.

This was Round 1 in purging the liberal, moderate, good-government, evidence-believing folks from the party.

It’s too bad because I think Ford was a decent person. Too bad he lost out to the Reaganites.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:42:21pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:42:36pm

WARNING: Fucked up news story about body donation center follows:

PHOENIX — A lawsuit testimony provides gruesome details of a FBI raid in which agents found buckets full of body parts and a body made of sewn-together parts from different people that was hung up on a wall at an Arizona body donation center.

According to KTVK, the FBI raided the Biological Resource Center (BRC), located in Phoenix, in 2014 as part of a multi-state human body parts trafficking raid.

One agent claimed he “a cooler filled with male genitalia,” “a bucket of heads, arms, and legs,” “infected heads,” and “a small woman’s head sewn onto a large male torso like Frankenstein and hung up on the wall,” the news outlet reports.

The lawsuit also says bodies were cut apart using chainsaws and bandsaws and that pools of blood and bodily fluids were found on the freezer floor.

“This is a horror story. It’s just unbelievable! This story is unbelievable,” said Troy Harp, who is one of over 30 plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the facility.

Harp donated his mother and grandmother to the BRC in 2012 and 2013 with the understanding that their bodies would be used for scientific purposes.

Harp told the news outlet he received his mother’s ashes via mail but now isn’t sure they’re really hers. Adding that his mother and grandmother wanted to help advance medical research, however he doesn’t believe their bodies ever made it out of the BRC.

He is also calling for stricter regulations on these types of facilities.

BRC owner, Stephen Gore, reportedly pleaded guilty to illegal control of an enterprise. He was sentenced to one year of differed jail time and four years probation.

This is one of the most messed up things I’ve ready in awhile and that’s really saying something.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:44:17pm
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Old Liberal  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:45:19pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

WARNING: Fucked up news story about body donation center follows:

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This is one of the most messed up things I’ve ready in awhile and that’s really saying something.

Stephen Gore?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:46:14pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Paging Ken Ham!!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:46:54pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I’m genuinely worried about my niece’s future if this continues unchallenged.

I’m worried about my children since they are Chinese immigrants. My daughter would like to go on a mission trip to California, and I’m thinking that if I Iet her go she is going to have to carry her passport with her at all times.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:47:53pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

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Rats fleeing the sinking ship.

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:48:12pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

It’s too bad because I think Ford was a decent person. Too bad he lost out to the Reaganites.

In the late 70’s, we weren’t yet calling them Reaganites. They were Reaganauts (aka “purples”, not sure where that name was derived from). In 1976 I wasn’t yet old enough to vote, but I volunteered hundreds of hours to the Ford campaign. We did win the California primary (against a 2-term former gov), and we won the general… but it wasn’t enough.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:48:57pm

re: #83 Dave In Austin

Would that be the Joe Scarborough who let Trump phone it in endlessly, so he could put his racist rants on MSNBC?

Only now does Mr. Scarborough come around, after three frickin’ years? Spare me your mea culpa, you’re just upset your party’s nominee (the guy you gave all the free airtime to) is craptastic.

You’ll be right out there stumping for the next Republican. You want to go on the air and say “I’m voting Democratic no matte who” from now on, then you might get my attention.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:49:46pm

re: #37 Patricia Kayden

How is getting a book deal something controversial that needs to be investigated?

Because Presidentin’ while Black. And Trump is getting desperate as the walls close in on him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:51:17pm

re: #97 sagehen

In the late 70’s, we weren’t yet calling them Reaganites. They were Reaganauts (aka “purples”, not sure where that name was derived from). In 1976 I wasn’t yet old enough to vote, but I volunteered hundreds of hours to the Ford campaign. We did win the California primary (against a 2-term former gov), and we won the general… but it wasn’t enough.

Ford I will appreciate for not pandering to the so cons and anti tax zealots. I really think Ford was the last of a kind.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:51:23pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Peggy, would you like if people called you Margaret? It’s your name after all. How hard is it to address someone by the pronoun they prefer? You just want to be an ass.

I don’t know, I think he’s a Ralph. Her complaint is about the tyranny of pronouns, so “he” ought to work.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:51:56pm

re: #95 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m worried about my children since they are Chinese immigrants. My daughter would like to go on a mission trip to California, and I’m thinking that if I Iet her go she is going to have to carry her passport with her at all times.

It’s awful isn’t it!

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:52:50pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

Would that be the Joe Scarborough who let Trump phone it in endlessly, so he could put his racist rants on MSNBC?

Only now does Mr. Scarborough come around, after three frickin’ years? Spare me your mea culpa, you’re just upset your party’s nominee (the guy you gave all the free airtime to) is craptastic.

Not “only now”, Scarborough came around shortly after the election, because Trump tweeted many very offensive things about Joe and Mika (including, a lie that she was “still bleeding from a facelift” when he had them turned away from the Mar-a-Lago New Year’s Eve party).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:53:13pm

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know, I think he’s a Ralph. Her complaint is about the tyranny of pronouns, so “he” ought to work.

You implied Peggy Noonan wrote it, my bad. All the same, people can go by what they want to go by without some moron likening it to Robespierre.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:54:08pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

You implied Peggy Noonan wrote it, my bad. All the same, people can go by what they want to go by without some moron likening it to Robespierre.

Hey, it can be hard to remember pronouns when you’re constantly half in the bag.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:55:39pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:58:43pm

I like Seth Meyers usually, but man did he piss me off by putting ratfucker Michael Moore on his show.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 2:59:31pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

I like Seth Meyers usually, but man did he piss me off by putting ratfucker Michael Moore on his show.

Yeah I haven’t liked Moore since he told Obama to act “more black.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:00:37pm

re: #97 sagehen

In the late 70’s, we weren’t yet calling them Reaganites. They were Reaganauts (aka “purples”, not sure where that name was derived from). In 1976 I wasn’t yet old enough to vote, but I volunteered hundreds of hours to the Ford campaign. We did win the California primary (against a 2-term former gov), and we won the general… but it wasn’t enough.

I see the term cropping up in old news articles after Ronald Reagan was elected, but can’t find a source for it.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:01:59pm

washingtonpost.com

Has the House of Representatives opened an impeachment inquiry? That question is starkly presented by a petition that the House Judiciary Committee filed in federal court on Friday. It is also answered by that petition. No matter what certain House Democratic leaders might say about the politics of the matter, there can now be no doubt that the committee is engaged an investigation of whether to impeach President Trump.

Through its petition, the committee seeks access to portions of the report by former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III that were redacted to protect grand jury secrecy. The committee also seeks grand jury testimony bearing on Trump’s knowledge of criminal acts, Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and Russian connections to his campaign. Finally, the committee seeks grand jury testimony about actions taken by former White House counsel Donald McGahn; this last request probably anticipates the committee’s rumored plans to seek an order compelling McGahn to testify…

At the level of political rhetoric, the House, and especially Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), has sent plenty of mixed messages. But when we look at what the House has done — and at what the Judiciary Committee is doing — the message is clear: An impeachment investigation has begun. Where these proceedings will go remains one of the most hotly disputed questions in American politics. There is no denying, however, that they are impeachment proceedings — and that the House is therefore entitled to the evidence it needs to answer the weighty questions before it.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:02:01pm

Moore isn’t always wrong, that’s not my problem with him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:05:24pm

I’m going to repost this which I posted late in the previous thread, because it shows that Twitter has allowed Nazis to weaponize the TOS against their enemies, and even with lawyers it can takes months to get reinstated after a troll attack.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:05:45pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Moore isn’t always wrong, that’s not my problem with him.

“You’re not wrong, Walter. You’re just an asshole.”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:07:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:10:13pm

From their secret patron show (caution for coarse language), which Utah Outcasts posts six months after they broadcast it, a story about a woman who used a sperm bank to have a child.

Later, she used 23andMe to find out who the child’s father was. She was able to find a relative of the father, who she contacted.

The person she contacted complained, and the sperm bank sent a cease-and-desist order to the woman, and threatened a $20,000 claim against her for doing this in contravention of the contract.

(11:40)

Potential Half Babies - Secret Patron Show #170

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:13:59pm

re: #112 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m going to repost this which I posted late in the previous thread, because it shows that Twitter has allowed Nazis to weaponize the TOS against their enemies, and even with lawyers it can takes months to get reinstated after a troll attack.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:17:04pm

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:18:00pm

In the Roger Stone trial prosecutors want to show the jury a clip from “Godfather 2” so they understand the references Roger Stone was making to suborn perjury.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:19:37pm

re: #117 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:30:28pm

Has anyone else noticed Trump’s habit of tilting his head back and forth while he is reading from the teleprompter? It’s very weird looking.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:32:15pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:35:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:35:45pm

re: #122 MsJ

Bad day for Republicans, with one in the House (the third this week) announcing she will not seek another term, the person who wanted to primary Jim Inhofe (Inhofe being too liberal) being arrested for shooting a process server yesterday and after getting out on bail threatening to commit a mass murder at a college, Shoplifting Sally, &c.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:36:01pm

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:36:39pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

Bad day for Republicans, with one in the House (the third this week) announcing she will not seek another term, the person who wanted to primary Jim Inhofe (Inhofe being too liberal) being arrested for shooting a process server yesterday and after getting out on bail threatening to commit a mass murder at a college, Shoplifting Sally, &c.

Is she the crazy Q person?

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:36:52pm

Speaking of Jerb related matters…

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:38:10pm

re: #125 MsJ

No surprise. The constitution is irrelevant to doing what their bosses in Kansas tell them to do.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:38:40pm

re: #127 William Lewis

Good luck!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:39:15pm

re: #126 MsJ

Is she the crazy Q person?

Shoplifting Sally is.

re: #125 MsJ

Support those troops by taking base housing money for a useless wall on the border. What do we need Congress allocating money for?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:40:57pm

re: #127 William Lewis

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:41:03pm

re: #127 William Lewis

Speaking of Jerb related matters…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:42:22pm
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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:43:23pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:46:17pm

Steven Anderson’s New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist organisation has gone anti-vaxxer now.

Suris (atheist counter-apologist, 13:00)

Steven Anderson LIES to make the NIFB ANTIVAX

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:46:33pm

Chief of Law Enforcement Operations for CBP is not sure if a 3 year old girl is a “national security threat.” He needs to look her in the eyes to ascertain if she is a future MS-13 member.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:49:05pm

Joe Arpaio is 87. He’s too old to be running for anything.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:51:28pm

re: #136 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Chief of Law Enforcement Operations for CBP is not sure if a 3 year old girl is a “national security threat.” He needs to look her in the eyes to ascertain if she is a future MS-13 member.

The cruelty is the point of conservatism. Always in every time in history.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:52:15pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

Joe Arpaio is 87. He’s too old to be running for anything.

Nah. Republicans are going to live forever, haven’t you heard? They’re going to get raptured and then they’re going to reign on earth for eternity. White American Jesus has declared it. So let it be written, so let it be done.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:55:03pm

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

No, a man in the White House with the patience and intelligence of a 3 year old is a national security threat.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 3:57:15pm

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

No, a man in the White House with the patience and intelligence of a 3 year old is a national security threat.

I agree, he’s both a security threat and cruel.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:01:48pm

Somehow I’d missed this bit of Onion brilliance (thanks, Dave Weigel):

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:04:53pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Sure Joe, we’d love you to turn Arizona blue.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:07:09pm

re: #136 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Chief of Law Enforcement Operations for CBP is not sure if a 3 year old girl is a “national security threat.” He needs to look her in the eyes to ascertain if she is a future MS-13 member.

If he thinks a 3 year old is a threat, he can get his fucking SS uniform on.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:10:26pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:11:28pm

re: #125 MsJ

SCOTUS is going to rubber stamp every bad move Trump makes. Impeachment proceedings need to start now. Enough.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:17:22pm

re: #146 Patricia Kayden

SCOTUS is going to rubber stamp every bad move Trump makes. Impeachment proceedings need to start now. Enough.

That won’t fix the SCOTUS.

We’re really fucked.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:17:22pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:18:19pm

re: #134 William Lewis

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:23:17pm

re: #118 The Pie Overlord!

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Momma’s favorite pie. Thank you so much for sharing!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:28:59pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:32:34pm

re: #127 William Lewis

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Teddy's Person  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:32:58pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

Surprise, Sean Hannity was wrong about him “destroying” the Washington Post.

I presume that means his Christian legal team has to pay the WP now for their court costs.

Next up: Wingnut welfare circuit.

He’ll hook up with Charlie Kirk, and they will be insufferable.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:33:33pm
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steve_davis  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:34:08pm

completely off topic, but I just discovered Blood Sweat and tears was at Woodstock, and the album of it is on Itunes. This is some very good shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:36:14pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Moore isn’t always wrong, that’s not my problem with him.

yes, he really nailed it in warning us in June of 2016 how Trump could win the election just by carrying all the states that Romney carried in 2012 (no problem there) and then taking PA, OH, MI and WI, which is what he did. Heck, he did not even need to carry Florida.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:36:46pm

re: #147 MsJ

Yeah. Voting for Secretary Clinton and ignoring the email “scandal” was the only way to avoid the awful SCOTUS we have now. The next Democratic President and Senate must increase the number of Justices and stack the courts.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:37:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:39:14pm

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

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Boom.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:39:41pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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She’s still alive iirc.

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:40:36pm

re: #152 MsJ

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:45:20pm

re: #161 William Lewis

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:47:00pm

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

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Go Rep. Haaland!

She is one of the first term congresswomen of color who Trump won’t mess with. He scared. Another one is Rep. Veronica Escobar.

Of course, he wouldn’t recognize ‘moral authority’ if it bit him on the ass. Which I think it does, at least hourly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:49:13pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

Go Rep. Haaland!

She is one of the first term congresswomen of color who Trump won’t mess with. He scared. Another one is Veronica Escobar.

Of course, he wouldn’t recognize ‘moral authority’ if it bit him on the ass. Which I think it does, at least hourly.

They do not rule by any moral authority, they rule by threats, bribery and prevarication.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:50:09pm

If I make it to next year, my dream is to go kayaking at Elkhorn Slough (near Monterey) when it’s baby otter season. I’ve been wanting to do that for 10 years.

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jeffreyw  Jul 26, 2019 • 4:52:08pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:01:17pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

David Brooks pulling out his dog whistle to say “white liberals are race traitors.”

Couldn’t have been we saw how conservatives like you and your fellow travelers treated President Obama, Mr. Brooks.

How White Democrats Moved Left
Racial equity has become the defining issue of the moment.

Most of the article is such a dry pile of strawmen that if you light a match within two hundred miles of New York you might burn the whole place down.

I’ll be a race traitor for free! No charge! I’m learning three languages (Dutch, French and Spanish) and I can’t think of a better way to flip le doigt du honneur to Les MAGAs!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:06:38pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:07:46pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Aliens are coming to invade us. I swear to construct a Dyson sphere around the Solar System to defend us from this threat. I’m going to use Department of Defense funds to accomplish this goal. Fight me.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:08:28pm

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:11:10pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:12:04pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

What the actual bejesusing fuck.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:15:05pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

And that’s in the Globe, not the Herald. We are well and truly fucked.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:16:31pm

re: #167 Sherlock Hound

I’ll be a race traitor for free! No charge! I’m learning three languages (Dutch, French and Spanish) and I can’t think of a better way to flip le doigt du honneur to Les MAGAs!

Working on Spanish for the same reason.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:17:50pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

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Uh no. And you can stop acting like he’s all laughs and jokes and not the reckless asshole he is.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:18:44pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:19:50pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:20:44pm

When the time comes for impeachment, there won’t be any debate raging on the Left. That’s how we’ll know.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:22:39pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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I absolutely agree with this, and it reveals Pelosi’s problem: she has many newly elected members in formerly-red districts who may want to move on impeachment, but need protection. I feel like she’s letting the steam build so that those members have some protection (though, to be honest, I’ve been critical of her in the last couple of weeks). We’ll see.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:29:30pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

181
I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:31:16pm

Instead of impeachment I’m now voting for burning the boston globe to the ground.

182
Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:32:33pm

re: #181 I Would Prefer Not To

Instead of impeachment I’m now voting for burning the boston globe to the ground.

Waiting for their enlightened re-think of George III.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:33:04pm

re: #178 Decatur Deb

When the time comes for impeachment, there won’t be any debate raging on the Left. That’s how we’ll know.

I want it a year ago. I also know that if the votes were there they’d have a vote on it. Which means it’s not time. I hate it. Y’all hate or. But reality blows sometimes.

184
Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:36:33pm

re: #183 MsJ

I want it a year ago. I also know that if the votes were there they’d have a vote on it. Which means it’s not time. I hate it. Y’all hate or. But reality blows sometimes.

Not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure no prosecutor is obligated to bring a crime to trial before she is sure she can convince 6 jurors. Jack McCoy never did.

185
HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:43:08pm

L re: #182 Decatur Deb

Waiting for their enlightened re-think of George III.

Crass, cockeyed pirate of the Thames.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:47:27pm

Throwing a bit of shade.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:48:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:48:41pm

re: #186 Dread Pirate

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Throwing a bit of shade.

Yay.//

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:49:14pm

I’m a huge fan of Watchmen, but the trailers for the new HBO series are leaving me very cold.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:51:46pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

One advantage to having 200 Democratic presidential candidates is that it’s a lot harder to find an equivalent of the “but her emails” smear on any one of them.

When the first 20 throw themselves on the wire and fill the moat with their bodies, we’ll have a better picture.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:54:23pm

Heads up thedopefishlives.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:54:57pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

Nothing here (southwest of Mpls), but thanks for the heads-up.

193
teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:59:00pm

A mudslide closed the interstate about 30 miles west of here. Rained hard on an old burn scar (there are a lot of old burn scars in that area). Mud was three feet deep.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jul 26, 2019 • 5:59:30pm

re: #181 I Would Prefer Not To

Instead of impeachment I’m now voting for burning the boston globe to the ground.

Just for a lark, I actually read (well, skimmed) the article. It says that DT has so energized his opponents, while highlighting some of our worst issues (e.g. racism) that they will produce consequential changes.

Gotta say it helps to read these things before you pan them. Oh, and it nowhere says or implies thar electing DT was a good thing.

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:00:22pm

re: #192 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Nothing here (southwest of Mpls), but thanks for the heads-up.

Looks like it’s going to pass south of here too. Now the cells starting up by Duluth?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:02:03pm

re: #195 William Lewis

Looks like it’s going to pass south of here too. Now the cells starting up by Duluth?

Now, with that said, we are still under a severe thunderstorm watch, presumably because the unstable nature of weather in the wild north country means that a storm could form nearby and hit us with little warning. The front line does run northwest of the fishbowl.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:03:20pm

Wingnut welfare. It’s the gravy train, hop on!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:04:09pm

OT Last week my microwave’s display went out. I was able to get it going again but only for half a day. So I decided to get a new one and amazon is supposed to get it to me by tomorrow evening. That means I am going to be home most if not all of the day waiting for my microwave.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:06:48pm

re: #197 teleskiguy

Wingnut welfare. It’s the gravy train, hop on!

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My surprise lemme show ya.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:30:23pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

A mudslide closed the interstate about 30 miles west of here. Rained hard on an old burn scar (there are a lot of old burn scars in that area). Mud was three feet deep.

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Looks like today’s stage of the Tour.

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stpaulbear  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:42:01pm

re: #192 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Nothing here (southwest of Mpls), but thanks for the heads-up.

Nothing in St Paul either except occasional dark skies to the north. WeatherUnderground is weirdly describing the weather as “Thunder In The Vicinity”. I’ve never seen that one before.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:45:19pm

re: #194 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Just for a lark, I actually read (well, skimmed) the article. It says that DT has so energized his opponents, while highlighting some of our worst issues (e.g. racism) that they will produce consequential changes.

Gotta say it helps to read these things before you pan them. Oh, and it nowhere says or implies thar electing DT was a good thing.

Like when Time Mag made Hilter man of the year because he was shaking things up in Europe? hard pass. (thanks for reading so we don’t have to).

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stpaulbear  Jul 26, 2019 • 6:48:49pm

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

OT Last week my microwave’s display went out. I was able to get it going again but only for half a day. So I decided to get a new one and amazon is supposed to get it to me by tomorrow evening. That means I am going to be home most if not all of the day waiting for my microwave.

Amazon has been offering the option of delivering items to a locker at the Whole Foods store (or other locations) instead of leaving it on my porch. I’ve been using that for almost every delivery now. Amazon sends you a six-digit code to enter at the locker control panel, and the locker just pops right open.

I think that something like a microwave oven would be too large for the locker option though.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:00:24pm

re: #202 I Would Prefer Not To

Like when Time Mag made Hilter man of the year because he was shaking things up in Europe? hard pass. (thanks for reading so we don’t have to).

I’m in agreement with JK Rowling that great men aren’t necessarily good men.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:27:51pm

re: #202 I Would Prefer Not To

Like when Time Mag made Hilter man of the year because he was shaking things up in Europe? hard pass. (thanks for reading so we don’t have to).

Nope, like we have lemons, now make lemonade. (As I already said, it is not on any way suggested that electing DT was a good thing.)

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:37:37pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

They’re just indiscriminately targeting brown people now.

The new Trumpian “Traveling While Brown” is the old Driving While Black with Homeland Security support.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:01:59am

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

OT Last week my microwave’s display went out. I was able to get it going again but only for half a day. So I decided to get a new one and amazon is supposed to get it to me by tomorrow evening. That means I am going to be home most if not all of the day waiting for my microwave.

Well at least it’s a bit cooler outside.


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