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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:26:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:46:17pm

I just got back from raising the village flags and saw this from two threads ago:

re: #773The Pie Overlord!

I’m joining Pittsburgh Jews in solidarity with El Paso and all victims of white nationalist violence.

Together, we reject Trump’s racist agenda. Together, we are stronger than hate.

.Add your name to the open letter from @jewishaction: bendthearc.us

Signed.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:46:49pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:48:51pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:50:05pm
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Cheechako  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:51:00pm

I guess we can only say “Florida Lightning” this time:

Toilet explodes in Florida home after lightning strikes septic tank

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:52:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:52:54pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

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WTF is happening

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:57:11pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I just got back from raising the village flags and saw this from two threads ago:

Signed.

Thanks.

I also made a donation to Bend The Arc. They are not tax-deductible but I donated anyway.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:57:42pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:00:01pm
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:00:46pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:01:23pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:07:26pm

re: #10 GlutenFreeJesus

Sorry. Full context:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:07:49pm

If you ever wondered how the Civil War tore families apart lining up on both sides, I think we’re seeing the same under Trump.

A couple years ago there was a discussion here asking “if you had a Trumper family member, would you cut them off” and my answer was an unequivocal “yes.”

Fortunately I don’t have family members like that (although some of the religious family members who cut me off might be Trumpers; I haven’t spoken to them in decades so I don’t know).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:08:32pm

re: #371 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, Commander SURFLANT just followed me on twitter

Maybe he’s a Mets fan

lol

Now the Navy Chief of Information (RADM Charlie Brown, I shit you not) is following me

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:09:49pm

re: #14 GlutenFreeJesus

Sorry. Full context:

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I’m old enough to remember when Obama was blamed for Blago being crooked.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:11:20pm
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Mike Lamb  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:13:15pm

re: #5 Dread Pirate

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Get the Republicans on record or STFU.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:17:13pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:17:24pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🎃

My road trip companion and I had some serious discussions in the car on the way home last weekend. He says that he stays apolitical on Facebook (a service he shied away from until just a few years ago) but he’s going to start putting his foot down and taking a stand against this madness. I warned him, doing that is like putting on the glasses in They Live, you find out who you know who are really monsters.

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:17:55pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If you ever wondered how the Civil War tore families apart lining up on both sides, I think we’re seeing the same under Trump.

A couple years ago there was a discussion here asking “if you had a Trumper family member, would you cut them off” and my answer was an unequivocal “yes.”

Fortunately I don’t have family members like that (although some of the religious family members who cut me off might be Trumpers; I haven’t spoken to them in decades so I don’t know).

If you think estate taxes are wring or that public schools should be replaced, well that’s a difference of opinion. But if you think kidnapping children of people who have a legal right to request asylum, or you think it is fine that black people are killed by cops over trivial events, then you are fucking evil and i won’t overlook evil. You’re gone.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:19:09pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:20:53pm

I’m still “friends” on Facebook with a few women I knew as kids who voted for Fuckface Von Clownstick. I’m happy to report that there are cracks in their support that over time have been getting bigger and bigger.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:30:03pm

I have Trumper relatives. They’re the same ones who think I made my money running guns to Mexican drug cartels. Their evidence? I know something about guns and I speak Spanish. Only possible explanation. Needless to say, I wouldn’t cross the street to let my dog piss on them if they were on fire.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:31:34pm

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I have Trumper relatives. They’re the same ones who think I made my money running guns to Mexican drug cartels. Their evidence? I know something about guns and I speak Spanish. Only possible explanation. Needless to say, I wouldn’t cross the street to let my dog piss on them if they were on fire.

I’m still close with my Trump-humping family. Yes, they are racist shitbags and yes, I hate that. But God damn it, they’re family and I still hope I can bring them to realize how vile Trump is and that Christianity != Republicanism.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:31:52pm

From the previous thread:

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

“People like you are +31 Republican.”

The only question that had me sliding to the Democratic side was the one on religion. Every other question moved me toward the GOP.

I’m a unicorn.

It is noteworthy that the question “Is religion important in your life,” if you answer it “no” moves you thirty-nine points to the left.

(Actually, religion is important in my life but not as a parishioner. I am naturally shy of people who say they are Christians in the same way I am shy of an open-carry wingnut. You just don’t know if you’re their next target for either a long sermon you don’t want, or a load of bigotry or violence. Yes, #notallChristians, but plenty enough.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:33:42pm
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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:34:27pm

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My late father’s side of the family are all trumpsters. I’m thankful that I don’t live in the same state as they do.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:37:13pm

My parents are growing more outspokenly anti Trump. I don’t generation bash on principle but knowing my parents and my other relatives their age gives me some comfort. My grandmother has actually grown more progressive the past two years. She really likes Beto.

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:38:00pm

WaPo: Some white people complain when they take plantation tours that talk about slavery.

“Our guide Olivia offered a heavy bias with only the hand-picked facts that neatly fit her narrative and for a large part weren’t germane to a plantation tour,” one person said of the McLeod Plantation, according to a review posted to Twitter, before following up with the racist comment, “I found it amusing when she told us some freed slaves fled to northern cities like Baltimore and Detroit where they continued to thrive to this day!”…

For those who may prefer a fuzzier, less accurate portrayal of plantation life, “Gone with the Wind” is streaming on Amazon and iTunes for $3.99 — a low price but still higher than the average slave’s wage, which was $0.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:39:24pm

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I have Trumper relatives. They’re the same ones who think I made my money running guns to Mexican drug cartels. Their evidence? I know something about guns and I speak Spanish. Only possible explanation. Needless to say, I wouldn’t cross the street to let my dog piss on them if they were on fire.

If I made money from bagel sales or parking lot investments, it would be really cool if my relatives thought I was a gunrunner.

(One cousin did die suspecting I was a spy, because: foreign tours.)

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William Lewis  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:39:59pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the previous thread:

“People like you are +31 Republican.”

The only question that had me sliding to the Democratic side was the one on religion. Every other question moved me toward the GOP.

I’m a unicorn.

It is noteworthy that the question “Is religion important in your life,” if you answer it “no” moves you thirty-nine points to the left.

(Actually, religion is important in my life but not as a parishioner. I am naturally shy of people who say they are Christians in the same way I am shy of an open-carry wingnut. You just don’t know if you’re their next target for either a long sermon you don’t want, or a load of bigotry or violence. Yes, #notallChristians, but plenty enough.)

I came out +67 Republican because age, military, male, white, protestant (The Episcopal/Anglican church is protestant theologically even if we’ve more catholic ritual than the Catholic church up the street :) So, if you’re a unicorn, I’m a freaking Pegasus Unicorn hybrid…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:42:07pm

re: #31 stpaulbear

WaPo: Some white people complain when they take plantation tours that talk about slavery.

My favorite was when 12 Years a Slave was negatively compared with Gone with the Wind. I think it was NRO’s resident British racist Derbyshire.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:43:01pm

re: #18 gocart mozart

@NYtimes would call it a racially fueled cross lighting

it’s just a big “T” for trump

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:43:40pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

That is awful. I can’t imagine what that poor couple is going through. Anyways, the racists won because an interracial couple is out of their neighborhood.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:44:43pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

I’m still “friends” on Facebook with a few women I knew as kids who voted for Fuckface Von Clownstick. I’m happy to report that there are cracks in their support that over time have been getting bigger and bigger.

“you’ve got to let nature take her course”

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:45:26pm

Maggie isn’t giving up despite being dragged in the threads.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:48:52pm

From the previous thread:

re: #127 DangerMan

i just took it again and wound up
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

I haven’t done Political Compass in a while, so I went through it again.

Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:48:59pm

re: #38 Patricia Kayden

Maggie isn’t giving up despite being dragged in the threads.

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giving money to Trump and the Rs IS a policy issue

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:49:26pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the previous thread:

I haven’t done Political Compass in a while, so I went through it again.

Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92

you can stay /s

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:49:44pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

This is a really great documentary about the Whitney Plantation, which was one of the first plantation tours to focus on the role of slavery. This is the kind of stuff I’d want to have on my list if I ever visit the south.

America’s First Museum Dedicated to Telling the Story of Slavery

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:50:48pm

Look at this guy, he’s more heartless than the imaginary “Democrats” he writes about.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:51:17pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

This is a really great documentary about the Whitney Plantation, which was one of the first plantation tours to focus on the role of slavery. This is the kind of stuff I’d want to have on my list if I ever visit the south.

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Definitely sounds like it would be a fascinating tour.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:53:43pm

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

Look at this guy, he’s more heartless than the imaginary “Democrats” he writes about.

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Nope Dinesh but keep on projecting your hate on to us, if you went anywhere in your near your conservative allies , they’d tell you to go back where you came from.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:55:20pm

Not “armed”, full Nutcase Ninja battle-rattle.

An armed man was arrested at a Missouri Walmart, police say
cnn.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:55:30pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Nope Dinesh but keep on projecting your hate on to us, if you went anywhere in your near your conservative allies , they’d tell you to go back where you came from.

Dinesh D’umbass doesn’t seem to understand the crucial difference between his kind and ours: We have EMPATHY. All he cares about is himself and what he can get from others. JFK’s inaugural address is lost on these people

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:55:57pm

Fucking moron

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:56:24pm

re: #47 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Dinesh D’umbass doesn’t seem to understand the crucial difference between his kind and ours: We have EMPATHY. All he cares about is himself and what he can get from others. JFK’s inaugural address is lost on these people

Exactly.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:56:43pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Definitely sounds like it would be a fascinating tour.

That’s the plantation tour that got the bad Yelp review from white tourists who didn’t want to hear about the slavery.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:58:09pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

This is a really great documentary about the Whitney Plantation, which was one of the first plantation tours to focus on the role of slavery. This is the kind of stuff I’d want to have on my list if I ever visit the south.

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I’m pretty sure the end of Gary Clark, Jr.’s ‘This Land’ video was shot there.

Gary Clark Jr - This Land [Official Music Video]

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:59:03pm

re: #50 The Pie Overlord!

That’s the plantation tour that got the bad Yelp review from white tourists who didn’t want to hear about the slavery.

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Yeah I figured. Lady is an idiot.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:59:33pm

Uh what?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:59:47pm

re: #51 makeitstop

I’m pretty sure the end of Gary Clark, Jr.’s ‘This Land’ video was shot there.

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God that was a great song and album. It was sort of like rap and the blues combined.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:00:40pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

God that was a great song and album. It was sort of like rap and the blues combined.

And plenty of hot licks to satisfy us guitar nerds. :)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:00:42pm

re: #53 electrotek

Uh what?

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So her logic is because she’s mistaken for Latino, Trump isn’t racist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:00:52pm

re: #55 makeitstop

And plenty of hot licks to satisfy us guitar nerds. :)

Of course

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:01:03pm

There’s a new restaurant a couple blocks from me and I think they may have their own bakery. The last couple of nights there’s been this wonderful smell wafting in through my west windows. It smells a lot better than when the old brewery complex next to my house was still bottling beer, although the hops wasn’t such a bad smell. For a while after the brewery closed, the building was used as an ethanol plant. That was horrid and made a lot of people ill and was shut down fairly quickly because it was so incredibly awful.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:02:25pm

Great thread.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:05:00pm

re: #59 electrotek

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Great thread.

I see the they confiscated guns a lot to justify 2A absolutism. The 2A didn’t help Japanese Americans during WWII.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:09:03pm

From the last thread:

re: #194 Sea Mexican

I was rated +72 Dem. However, with a slight change in the first question (race), I turned to +2 Dem.

Kind of tells you the difference between the two parties (that margin is greater than the religion question).

The GOP really has become the White People’s Christo-Nationalist Party.

I maintain my assertion I am a unicorn amongst Democrats. White guy, no college, upper fifties, even my religious views were not enough to slide me to the D side of the column.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:10:57pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the last thread:

Kind of tells you the difference between the two parties (that margin is greater than the religion question).

The GOP really has become the White People’s Christo-Nationalist Party.

I maintain my assertion I am a unicorn amongst Democrats. White guy, no college, upper fifties, even my religious views were not enough to slide me to the D side of the column.

You and me both. The only things that moved me to the left are that I’m young and I’m male. I actually scored as more likely to be a Republican than you, because I’m a religious Protestant.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:15:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:17:20pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Fucker.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:18:47pm

Next from the last thread:

re: #330 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

She also says it’s wrong to call white supremacists Nazis because Nazis killed white people in their genocides.

And from the tweet;
AFA governmental affairs director and Religious Right radio host Sandy Rios says that when progressives criticize white supremacy, they’re actually criticizing Christians.

Well, nice to know the Government Affairs director of a freakin’ tax-exempt Christian religious organisation is admitting Christianity=White Supremacy.

Nice look you make for you co-religionists there, Ms. Rios (oh you don’t probably think they’re true Christians [tm] if they call out white supremacy).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:20:49pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:22:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:24:06pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Yep she sees white supremacy as Christian.

That’s not a new position in the USA, considering the Bible was used to justify the slaughter of Native Americans and chattel slavery in the slave states.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:28:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:28:39pm

re: #235 gocart mozart

Adam Fannin, one of the wingnut New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist preachers.

I would offer Sarah Silverman an honourary “atheist pumpkin protest” emoji if she wants one.

Fortunately those guys are primarily in Dixie, or they’d be trying to get me killed as well. I already have my hands full with a CI church in the area.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:29:22pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Now the Navy Chief of Information (RADM Charlie Brown, I shit you not) is following me

I lived next door to a kid named Charlie Brown in the mid 60’s in Glendale CA.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:33:09pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If you ever wondered how the Civil War tore families apart lining up on both sides, I think we’re seeing the same under Trump.

A couple years ago there was a discussion here asking “if you had a Trumper family member, would you cut them off” and my answer was an unequivocal “yes.”

Fortunately I don’t have family members like that (although some of the religious family members who cut me off might be Trumpers; I haven’t spoken to them in decades so I don’t know).

I do have family members like that and I have cut them all off except for my sister who is ill. I delete the GOP propaganda from her that shows up on my Facebook page.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:37:43pm

re: #38 Patricia Kayden

Maggie isn’t giving up despite being dragged in the threads.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:38:57pm

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That’s not a new position in the USA, considering the Bible was used to justify the slaughter of Native Americans and chattel slavery in the slave states.

Im aware. The Bible was also used by Abolitionists too.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:42:31pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:45:00pm

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

Look at this guy, he’s more heartless than the imaginary “Democrats” he writes about.

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What will D’Stupid say when white supremacists come for him?

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:45:17pm

re: #71 Eventual Carrion

I lived next door to a kid named Charlie Brown in the mid 60’s in Glendale CA.

And to talk to myself, after posting earlier I thought of another thing from my past that fits this discussion. I also went to high school with a kid named Robin Hood.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:46:09pm

re: #69 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:46:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:46:19pm

re: #267 Blind Frog Belly White

Wow. I imagine this will be painful for his parents - ‘Did he not trust us? Was there something we did that kept our child from being honest with us about who he was?’.

Or, if his family is Christian, he feared being thrown out of the family. Not many churches are welcoming of the “T” part of LGBT.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:47:04pm
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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:48:31pm

re: #31 stpaulbear

WaPo: Some white people complain when they take plantation tours that talk about slavery.

I like what historian Edward Baptist did in his book “The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism.” He called the “plantations” another name—“slave labor camps”. I think that’s a perfectly fine and true name. (PS If you’ve never read this book, highly, highly recommended. Yeah, it’s economics, yeah it has charts, but you will understand so much about WHY slavery is a live issue, even down to today.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:49:09pm
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:51:24pm

re: #75 Dave In Austin

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“Hey, Charlie, I set a new speed record.”
“Yeah, but you didn’t do it on your own, you rode in front of that beast.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:55:23pm

From the previous thread:

And I’m betting he lied about that and his college is not making him take any of those courses.

His cesspool of a Twitter feed reads like McCarthy-era Republicans complaining about Marxist professors and liberal indoctrination in college.

Conservatism doesn’t change much.

If the snowflake is that upset about it, how about I take his college seat. I could probably even choke myself through a mandatory class on libertarian economic systems or whatnot if they actually made me take one.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:56:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:58:15pm

re: #380 teleskiguy

A letter to the editor of the Aspen Times, the next valley to the south of me.

Bravo.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:58:52pm

“… The guidelines outlined by department officials appear to invalidate a recently-announced Delta Air Lines policy barring “pit bull type dogs” from traveling as service or emotional support animals.

Airlines are allowed a case-by-case determination of whether an animal is safe to travel, and airlines can also require people traveling with emotional support animals to check in at the airport lobby, rather than online, to allow an airline official to review the animal.

“The airline does have the authority to do an individualized assessment of any dog, every breed of dog, and if any dog — no matter the breed — is determined to pose, or deemed to pose a risk to the health or safety of other passengers, the airline is free to deny boarding,” a department official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told reporters on a conference call explaining the change. …”

“… The department will not seek to invalidate any airline policies prohibiting animals other than dogs, cats and miniature horses — the most common species of service animals — from traveling as emotional support animals, the officials said. …”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:02:27pm

re: #4 gocart mozart

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I was debating morality with a rightwing “christian” and I cited the Golden Rule as a bedrock of objective morality. The “christian” described it as “pretty vapid” “self-evidently illogical” and “atheistic.” Rightwing “christians” are so steeped in the gospels according to Fox, they don’t even know what the actual teachings of Christ are. Probably thinks the Golden Rule is “he who has the gold rules.”

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:02:40pm

re: #86 Dave In Austin

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:05:17pm

For context

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:07:16pm

re: #86 Dave In Austin

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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:09:36pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Not “armed”, full Nutcase Ninja battle-rattle.

An armed man was arrested at a Missouri Walmart, police say
cnn.com

Pulling the store’s fire alarm is not a bad action to take whenever you see one of these armed to the teeth open carry asshats. “I didn’t know if he was a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun and I didn’t want to wait around to be sure.” Fuck yeah.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:09:53pm

re: #387 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

How the actual fuck does the head of the NRA get a direct line to the White House?

Oh. Right.

I didn’t elect churches either, but they have a direct line to just about every Republican legislator, are counselors to presidents, and like the NRA are tax-exempt.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:11:33pm

Said it before. Don’t see Biden, or Sanders, as viable presidents 1-2 years after taking office

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:16:44pm

Remember these puppets that the NRA bought with Russian money!

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Citizen K  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:17:57pm

Of course. Of fucking course.

It can never be the guns. Of course it must be those evil evil devious video games causing all the murder.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:23:57pm

Chase Bank ended it’s card services in Canada last year, and had been requiring previous card holders to continue paying off their debts.

Of note, Chase cancelled my (seldom used) Visa card last month (with several months warning), And has been bombarding me with new offers since.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:24:51pm

re: #82 mmmirele

I like what historian Edward Baptist did in his book “The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism.” He called the “plantations” another name—“slave labor camps”. I think that’s a perfectly fine and true name. (PS If you’ve never read this book, highly, highly recommended. Yeah, it’s economics, yeah it has charts, but you will understand so much about WHY slavery is a live issue, even down to today.)

In touring a S.C. Plantation, I learned that they kidnapped West African villagers and brought them to SC to cultivate rice. They weren’t unskilled labor, they were being exploited for their expertise in rice cultivation.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:28:38pm

re: #401 HappyWarrior

Talk to that guy in Nebraska. He’s a Republican and he thinks your party is racist. No one believes a goddamn thing you say Ronna.

The party here is trying to force him out because he’s now RINO. The state party says he voted against core principles of the party “for years.”

In May, state senator McCollister spoke at an abortion rights rally at the state capitol.

He says he intends to stay in the GOP and they can’t force him out.

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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:37:37pm

I think the divisiveness in our country runs very deep and it is dangerous. Let me give you an example.

My evil too big to fail employer sent out a memo telling us we needed to standardize the signatures on our email. I told my manager at today’s meeting that 10 point [whatever the name of the font was] was too small for the largest font and I wasn’t going to do it. I would use the font, but I’d bump it up to 12 point.

But that’s just a sideshow. The real shitshow is the OPTIONAL, repeat OPTIONAL line one can put at the bottom of the email signature and that is:

Pronouns: He/Him/His or She/Her/Hers or They/Them/Theirs [select one]

This was posted to the company intranet and OMG the comments. (Never read the comments, not even on the company intranet.) Some of these were happy this was an option but there were a number of comments, with quite a number of “likes” from people who didn’t understand (or didn’t want to understand) why we had the option to do this. I mean, like dragging out the dictionary to say that “sex” and “gender” are the same thing. (They’re not.) Basically, a bunch of stick in the mud people who don’t want to use a person’s preferred pronouns because they’re asshats.

I noted there was a person who worked in the department next to ours, has been featured on the company intranet because they are non-binary, and their pronouns are they/them/theirs. And it was HARD for me to spit that out because I’ve been on this earth almost 60 years and never made a point of using the third person plural as a third person singular neutral. But I’m willing to try. There are a lot of dickish types who are not willing and are noisily proclaiming the same. It’s extremely unsettling.

I would bet that every single one of the people who posted that this was useless, not necessary, didn’t understand, etc., voted for a certain short-fingered vulgarian.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:39:09pm

re: #97 Citizen K

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Of course. Of fucking course.

It can never be the guns. Of course it must be those evil evil devious video games causing all the murder.

It’s Wal-Mart being Wal-Mart, just like they pulled this same “moral guardian” horseshit back in the 90s by refusing to carry any music cassette/CDs with the “Parental Advisory” stickers, but would happily continue to sell “R”-rated films.

And note that they’re not even really leaning all that far out into the strike zone, just saying they’re pulling the ads but continue to sell the video games themselves. It’s as if they know this shit isn’t going anywhere, but want some brownie points for “doing something.”

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:45:43pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

The damaging thing about it is that it feeds the myth: “why is Walmart doing it if it’s not a real thing?”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:47:55pm

Last thread:

re: #463 gocart mozart

She copied it from Democratic Underground, and didn’t copy the whole thing.

In other words, plagiarism to make a lying conservative (but I repeat myself) point.

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Citizen K  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:50:29pm

re: #103 Belafon

The damaging thing about it is that it feeds the myth: “why is Walmart doing it if it’s not a real thing?”

This, not to mention telegraphing that they’re going to be restricting games and media before they ever do anything about guns. It’s another brick in the dumb wall.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:51:08pm

re: #103 Belafon

The damaging thing about it is that it feeds the myth: “why is Walmart doing it if it’s not a real thing?”

Because Walmart is a brand that’s (at best) treading water and is desperate to play any angle is can to wrestle away business from the competition.

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danarchy  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:53:02pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Last thread:

She copied it from Democratic Underground, and didn’t copy the whole thing.

In other words, plagiarism to make a lying conservative (but I repeat myself) point.

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Who do you mean by she?

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:54:26pm

F*ck You, Dinesh!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:57:17pm

re: #108 DodgerFan1988

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F*ck You, Dinesh!

He’s too stupid to realize that the racists he pals with will turn on him.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:07:21pm

I can’t even really say that Walmart is shooting themselves in the foot, as there’s no real odds of a boycott being called over what looks like a half-hearted “stand” against violence in video games. They’re not refusing to sell the games, they’ll happily take your money. They just won’t have ads up, they’re turning off the demo systems, and canceling any special release parties for such games. Instead of support or opposition, all I can really see this move inspiring is mockery from gamers for what looks like a corporation making a self-defeating move.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:07:58pm

re: #33 William Lewis

I came out +67 Republican because age, military, male, white, protestant (The Episcopal/Anglican church is protestant theologically even if we’ve more catholic ritual than the Catholic church up the street :) So, if you’re a unicorn, I’m a freaking Pegasus Unicorn hybrid…

I suspect there could be a flaw in their assessment.

I looked at the charts below the explanation of the questions where they funnel people down as if they are going through a Pachinko machine, but that’s not really how demographics and such work.

While most minority groups, ethnic groups, and atheists tend to line up on the Democratic side (because we’re not stupid), just because a person served in the military doesn’t make them “Republican.” That stereotype needs to die.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:12:17pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I suspect there could be a flaw in their assessment.

The “flaw” is because they designed their algorithm to work of the central region of the distribution (of the electorate.) Many of us here are probably never going to be in the central part of the distribution, as the nature of LGF has selected those of us who are characterologically more likely to be outliers.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:12:19pm

I sure I’m the last person to see this but I have to share..

Someone call this a Holy Mackerel

I will never look at fish on the back of a car the same way again.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:13:34pm

re: #41 DangerMan

you can stay /s

Gee, thanks. /s

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:13:37pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:16:07pm

re: #113 Kilroy was here

I sure I’m the last person to see this but I have to share..

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Someone call this a Holy Mackerel

I will never look at fish on the back of a car the same way again.

Get yourself one of these:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:20:31pm

Since when was “pathological compassion” a thing?

“Social justice” secured every right Americans have, from freedom of speech to voting rights for women. “Frog boi” here needs to take a whole busload of seats.

Justice by definition includes compassion.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:20:45pm

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

I’m more evolved than that

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:21:18pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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NO CRIMINAL OFFENSE?!?!?

Disturbing the peace, at the very least.

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William Lewis  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:22:57pm

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

Heh. I like that one. There’s darwin fish out there too. I’d rather get a sign made with this on it to make heads explode…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:23:54pm

re: #118 Kilroy was here

I’m more evolved than that

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LOL I always liked that one….the Darwin Fish. Friend of mine had one on her old Honda CRX. Fortunately, this was in the Portland, OR area back in the 1990s so she didn’t get any shit over it.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:28:03pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:37:41pm

Since the torturous show Spin The Wheel had its latest episode tonight, watching it I pondered how much Monty Hall would have liked the set up.

A player has 16 spins to get money, or lose some of it, or eventually lose it all. In the last quarter, for the last four spins, if the player loses it all that ends the game for them (so if they lose it all on spin 13 they don’t get the final 3 spins, etc.)

Before each spin in the last quarter there is a “walk away” offer, less than the value the current player has on their docket, but it is a sure thing versus losing it all during one of the last four spins. The player doesn’t choose this, but the player has picked another person (often family member) to be given that choice, a sort of designated driver scenario. Thing is, the player nor the audience knows is the designated person took the offer or not, until the game is over (the designee is in a sort-of isolated booth.)

The walk away offers go up for each round (to entice the designee to take them.)

So, here’s the math question which makes the game very Monty-Hall-esque: do you (the designee) take any of the walk away offers, and which one should you take if you decide you’re going to pull the trigger?

Here’s my answer: if you are such a person that you are going to take the most rational approach, i.e., going with the probabilities, the offer to take is the first one, the one for spin 13. If the player ever makes it spin 15 then don’t take any offers, as the likelihood of making it through to the end of spin 16 without going back to zero is better than 50% in almost all cases (it does depend a bit on how well the player did in the prior quarters.) It’s spin 14 which is on the edge, if one hasn’t already taken the spin 13 walk away offer.

So even though there is an increased chance of going back to zero on spin 16 because there are more nasty wedges on the wheel for that spin (along with multimillion dollar wedges), they still account for the minority of the spots on the wheel.

So even though the spin 13 offer will be the lowest of the four offers in the last quarter of the game, it’s also the one that is most likely to be needed by the player. Because it is unlikely a player will go through 4 spins ( spins 13, 14, 15, and 16) without hitting a nasty go back to zero wedge.

In other words, as far as gambling is concerned, the only gambling of real consequence in this game is whether or not to take the spin 13 walk away offer. If you want guaranteed money, that is the one to take. If you’re a magical thinker and believe you (or some being) has control over the wheel for the player’s benefit, and you want to gamble on that, and you thus pass by the spin 13 offer, you might as well ride it to the end.

As I noted earlier, since there are negative values on wheel in the last quarter, if the player has only built up a small bank, it is possible on spin 14 to end the game by subtracting one of those nasty negative numbers (which are only a few, compared to the back-to-zero wedges.) If one has turned down the spin 13 offer, and the player has a small bank, it may be reasonable to take the spin 14 offer is the player also answered several of the questions wrong in quarter three (which thus ends up with a nastier wheel.)

But never take the walk away offers for spin 15 and spin 16, if the player gets that far, as the chances on making it through two spins and not going back to zero are still over 50%)

I’m not sure if any of the players or designees on this show understand the above or not. But through 7 episodes so far I think it appears that the chosen players probably wouldn’t have done so well with Let’s Make A Deal.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:37:45pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

lolwut?

There’s something about the structure of that sentence that’s wrong.

re: #107 danarchy

Who do you mean by she?

Whoops, I mistakenly wrote she. That wingnut is a he.

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:37:50pm

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the previous thread:

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And I’m betting he lied about that and his college is not making him take any of those courses.

His cesspool of a Twitter feed reads like McCarthy-era Republicans complaining about Marxist professors and liberal indoctrination in college.

Conservatism doesn’t change much.

If the snowflake is that upset about it, how about I take his college seat. I could probably even choke myself through a mandatory class on libertarian economic systems or whatnot if they actually made me take one.

I did go to college; and I remember very clearly that our “breadth of study” requirements were things like a year of math, a year of a foreign language, 2 history classes, 2 literature classes, 2 semesters of physical sciences, 3 semesters of social sciences…

The closest I ever got to an SJW snowflake course was a class I referred to as “Drug Studies” (the official name was “Altered States of Consciousness” — an interdepartmental offering team-taught by profs from the religion, philosophy and anthropology departments. It included a special lecture from one of the physics profs about quantum mechanics, string theory, and the Heisenberg principle. Which oddly enough, made a lot more sense in that context than it had when I heard it in a physics class.) I did my term paper on why your parents would be less bothered by you doing LSD and mushrooms than they would be if you became a Moonie or Hare Krishna.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:44:22pm

Bernie Sanders Pledges to Reveal UFO Evidence If Elected President

If Bernie Sanders makes it to the White House and learns something earth-shattering about aliens, he will reveal the information on Joe Rogan’s podcast, the Vermont senator said on Joe Rogan’s podcast Tuesday.

The promise, reported by Motherboard, came at the end of an hour-long conversation between Sanders and Rogan.

Rogan: “If you got into the office and you found out something about aliens, if you found out something about UFOs, would you let us know?”

Sanders: “Well I tell you, my wife would demand I let you know.”

Rogan: “Is your wife a UFO nut?”

Sanders: “No, she’s not a UFO nut. She goes, Bernie, ‘What is going on do you know? Do you have any access to records?’”

Rogan: “You don’t have any access? You’ll let us know though?”

Sanders: “Alright, we’ll announce it on the show. How’s that?”

Trump is vulnerable on this issue. His followers are already disappointed that he has not exposed chemtrails, confessed to the fake Moon landing, or even ordered NOAA to quit claiming the Earth is round.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:47:13pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Since when are they amongst the most popular service animals?

Lots of grifters try to claim that other animals are service animals under the law. That is not so.

However, miniature horses are listed in the ADA in addition to dogs, provided they meet certain requirements.

In addition to the provisions about service dogs, the Department’s revised ADA regulations have a new, separate provision about miniature horses that have been individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. (Miniature horses generally range in height from 24 inches to 34 inches measured to the shoulders and generally weigh between 70 and 100 pounds.) Entities covered by the ADA must modify their policies to permit miniature horses where reasonable. The regulations set out four assessment factors to assist entities in determining whether miniature horses can be accommodated in their facility. The assessment factors are (1) whether the miniature horse is housebroken; (2) whether the miniature horse is under the owner’s control; (3) whether the facility can accommodate the miniature horse’s type, size, and weight; and (4) whether the miniature horse’s presence will not compromise legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operation of the facility.

ada.gov

The Great Plains ADA Center has the description of what a miniature horse has to fit to be considered a service animal. Huh, ya learn something new every day.

(with photo of such a horse, measurements, and required markings)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:49:44pm

Round two of thunderstorms moving through today. They are blowing up just west of town. We’re starting to get hail.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:04:32pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Since when was “pathological compassion” a thing?

“Social justice” secured every right Americans have, from freedom of speech to voting rights for women. “Frog boi” here needs to take a whole busload of seats.

Justice by definition includes compassion.

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I’ve lost count of the number of wingnuts I’ve heard who have looked on a court case that did not go the way they believed it should and declared some variation of “justice was denied.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:14:17pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

I’ve lost count of the number of wingnuts I’ve heard who have looked on a court case that did not go the way they believed it should and declared some variation of “justice was denied.”

Mercy is justice denied. See all the rapists who seem to get the “well, we don’t want to ruin his life” treatment.

And this is bizarre, I got a PUA advertisement on the secrets of picking up women (the advert showed simply overriding any women’s objections, send me money and I’ll show you how) on YouTube.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:23:38pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:26:04pm

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Mercy is justice denied. See all the rapists who seem to get the “well, we don’t want to ruin his life” treatment.

And this is bizarre, I got a PUA advertisement on the secrets of picking up women (the advert showed simply overriding any women’s objections, send me money and I’ll show you how) on YouTube.

I’d like to ask these morons if they think justice is allowing a murderer to go free on a technicality. Then, when they bark in the negative, ask them if they still feel the same if the murderer is a Navy SEAL and his victim was an alleged ISIS fighter.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:32:32pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

I’d like to ask these morons if they think justice is allowing a murderer to go free on a technicality. Then, when they bark in the negative, ask them if they still feel the same if the murderer is a Navy SEAL and his victim was an alleged ISIS fighter.

ThAt’S dIfFeReNt!! Terrorist! Muslim!11uno!2!11dos!

Same when someone like that gets pulled over for a traffic violation. “Why aren’t you going after real criminals?” Misdemeanour avoidance of a customs house? “Shoot ‘em.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:47:42pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:55:15pm

re: #131 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I am Richard Milhous Aquafortist.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:00:44am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🎃

ThAt’S dIfFeReNt!! Terrorist! Muslim!11uno!2!11dos!

Same when someone like that gets pulled over for a traffic violation. “Why aren’t you going after real criminals?” Misdemeanour avoidance of a customs house? “Shoot ‘em.”

Or, as we saw in numerous US cities during the Obama years, the idea that there’s “justice” in black men dying for petty things like selling loosies or speeding.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:36:53am

re: #122 Belafon

LOL

That guy’s Twitter feed is a tyre fire.

And why does Gab (dot) ai still have a verified account (or an account at all) since so many murderers have come from there? (There is a Gab retweet in his recent history plugging their site.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:37:34am

re: #1 gocart mozart

This is literally what every Trumper thinks will happen if Democrats win.

We will pass legislation forcing Chick Fil-A to serve halal, close Fridays and open Sundays!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:40:17am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If you ever wondered how the Civil War tore families apart lining up on both sides, I think we’re seeing the same under Trump.

I rediscovered an old High School buddy on FB (we were never really close friends) and after one look at his timeline with all the anti-Obama, pro-gun posts, I decided not to bother recontacting him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:40:53am

re: #18 gocart mozart

NYtimes would call it a racially fueled cross lighting.

prompted by economic anxiety

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Dave In Austin  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:43:16am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Almost all the guys I ran with in HS. All Cult45’rs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:43:48am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

My parents are growing more outspokenly anti Trump. I don’t generation bash on principle but knowing my parents and my other relatives their age gives me some comfort. My grandmother has actually grown more progressive the past two years. She really likes Beto.

My older brother is pro-Trump like mad but I notice my sister-in-law moving away from that. Bro likes things simple and direct, she is more educated.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:48:58am

re: #134 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Chemtrails!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:52:58am

re: #143 Dread Pirate

Chemtrails!

A comment on that video said as much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:56:07am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That’s not a new position in the USA, considering the Bible was used to justify the slaughter of Native Americans and chattel slavery in the slave states.

The Sin of Ham!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 9, 2019 • 12:56:24am

Looks like Lekima is going to make landfall somewhat south of Shanghai, while Krosa has been spinning in place for a day:

Lekima will move north for a day then sit around northern China for a few days, probably bringing lots of flooding with it:

Krosa is expected to finally head northwest. Whether it will cross Japan, enter the sea of Japan and then hit Hokkaido also is still up in the air:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 1:11:41am

re: #96 Joe Bacon 🌹

As America transforms into a killing field, here are the top recipients of campaign donations from the @NRA:

Sen. Burr: $6.9M
Sen. Blunt: $4.5M
Sen. Tillis: $4.4M
Sen. Gardner: $3.8M
Sen. Rubio: $3.3M
Sen. Ernst: $3.1M
Sen. Portman: $3M
Sen. Young: $2.8M
Sen. Cassidy: $2.8M

When is Don Jr going to compare this to a “hit list”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 1:14:00am

re: #99 NO SMOCKING GUN!

In touring a S.C. Plantation, I learned that they kidnapped West African villagers and brought them to SC to cultivate rice. They weren’t unskilled labor, they were being exploited for their expertise in rice cultivation.

In the end, they were TOO LAZY to do the work themselves, could not keep the natives from just running off, so they felt compelled to import people to force them to perform the work that they were TOO LAZY to do themselves.

Slavery is a product of White Laziness

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 1:48:46am

re: #103 Belafon

The damaging thing about it is that it feeds the myth: “why is Walmart doing it if it’s not a real thing?”

marketing considerations. they do not want to piss off their two key constituencies: gun nuts and parents of multiple children (from different fathers)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 9, 2019 • 2:46:55am

Who doesn’t love caviar?

Fish Egg Buffet: Windows to the Deep 2019

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 2:51:13am

re: #150 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Who doesn’t love caviar?

I lived in Russia and never developed a taste for it

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 3:19:58am

OK, this was strikingly professional
- PIT maneuver executed on target vehicle
- Gunman dismounts and advances firing as stalled vehicle rolls backwards and stops
- Bystander with handgun shoots at gunman
- Gunman does not engage bystander, withdraws to vehicle with partner and departs
Unless the gunman was out of ammo, he chose not to return fire on a “civilian” even though he was being shot at.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 3:21:00am

re: #152 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, this was strikingly professional
- PIT maneuver executed on target vehicle
- Gunman dismounts and advances firing as stalled vehicle rolls backwards and stops
- Bystander with handgun shoots at gunman
- Gunman does not engage bystander, withdraws to vehicle with partner and departs
Unless the gunman was out of ammo, he chose not to return fire on a “civilian” even though he was being shot at.

Because he surrendered to the moral authority of a Good Guy With a Gun!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 3:22:10am

re: #152 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, this was strikingly professional
- PIT maneuver executed on target vehicle
- Gunman dismounts and advances firing as stalled vehicle rolls backwards and stops
- Bystander with handgun shoots at gunman
- Gunman does not engage bystander, withdraws to vehicle with partner and departs
Unless the gunman was out of ammo, he chose not to return fire on a “civilian” even though he was being shot at.

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That’s suggestive of someone with military training or background.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 3:23:37am

re: #154 Dr Lizardo

That’s suggestive of someone with military training or background.

Or law enforcement

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 3:42:17am

Well, so far so good; got the Vaio back and it seems to be running much better.

The IT fellow said it was full of dust, which I sort of expected. Also, he replaced the heatsink and the CPU cooling fan, which had failed.

If it lasts about three or four more months, I’ll be a happy camper. I’m planning on saving up so I can get myself a Raspberry Pi 3 B+. I have all the other stuff, such an an HDMI cable, mouse (I’ll need to find a keyboard, but those are fairly cheap). I’ll also pick up a 1Tb Seagate expansion drive - I looked it up, and you can run a Pi off an expansion drive once you’ve formatted it.

zakladni-desky.heureka.cz

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 3:52:47am

So, I see a lot of people wondering why the executives at that plant that ICE raided weren’t themselves arrested - you know, for illegally employing undocumented workers (which, if I’m not mistaken, is in fact against the law).

Now this is one of those things that makes me say, “Hmmm….”

Wednesday’s raid by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which led to nearly 700 workers being detained, targeted seven Koch Foods Inc. poultry plants in Morton, Mississippi. As it happens, last year, Koch Foods settled a $3.75 million lawsuit for racial discrimination, national origin discrimination, and sexual harassment against its Latinx workers in that very same Morton facility.

According to the suit brought by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), supervisors, “touched and/or made sexually suggestive comments to female Hispanic employees, hit Hispanic employees, and charged many of them money for normal everyday work activities.” Many workers were reportedly either discharged or subjected to other forms of retaliation when they complained.

As part of the settlement, Koch Foods not only paid out a massive sum to the victims, but also agreed to implement training for employees and set up a 24-hour hotline for reporting discrimination complaints in both English and Spanish. The settlement lasted three years, which means Koch Foods is still under supervision to continue efforts to reduce discrimination in its work place.

thinkprogress.org

Color me cynical, but there’s one to get out of paying, huh?

Arrest and deport the workers. I’d be willing to wager a buck or two the executives set this raid up with ICE - to get rid of a now-inconvenient workforce.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:00:24am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

So, I see a lot of people wondering why the executives at that plant that ICE raided weren’t themselves arrested - you know, for illegally employing undocumented workers (which, if I’m not mistaken, is in fact against the law).

Best of both worlds: they get to look tough and decisive for their voter base and they also get a stone out of the shoe of their donor base.

If only the Democrats could learn to be that efficient in implementing their policy…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:03:20am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

This is exactly what happened. Guaranteed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:06:31am

re: #159 GlutenFreeJesus

This is exactly what happened. Guaranteed.

Just like when they advertise a major drug bust: In most cases, it was the drug bosses who simply wanted to get rid of someone in their organization who is untrustworthy or likely to cause trouble.

It makes the DEA look good, but 90% of the goods are still getting delivered, all of which just means that the bosses wind up only making only 900% profits instead of 1000%

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:10:15am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And in the MS cases, they’ll hire more undocumented workers next week, hoping they’re “compliant”.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:10:54am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

So, I see a lot of people wondering why the executives at that plant that ICE raided weren’t themselves arrested - you know, for illegally employing undocumented workers (which, if I’m not mistaken, is in fact against the law).

Now this is one of those things that makes me say, “Hmmm….”

thinkprogress.org

Color me cynical, but there’s one to get out of paying, huh?

Arrest and deport the workers. I’d be willing to wager a buck or two the executives set this raid up with ICE - to get rid of a now-inconvenient workforce.

This is why it’s all connected. Treating workers like human beings is related to immigration.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:11:42am

re: #161 GlutenFreeJesus

And in the MS cases, they’ll hire more undocumented workers next week, hoping they’re “compliant”.

And then the cycle will repeat itself. Modern capitalism is a vicious motherfucker.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:11:44am

re: #161 GlutenFreeJesus

And in the MS cases, they’ll hire more undocumented workers next week, hoping they’re “compliant”.

Trump is not going to crack down too hard on companies that follow standard business practices for the Trump organization in hiring staff for its hotels and resorts…

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Ming5000  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:12:19am

re: #113 Kilroy was here

I sure I’m the last person to see this but I have to share..

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Someone call this a Holy Mackerel

I will never look at fish on the back of a car the same way again.

You’ve changed me.
Holy Mackerel it is, from now on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:13:05am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

This is why it’s all connected. Treating workers like human beings is related to immigration.

Entire industries, from agriculture, to food processing to food service, construction, landscaping & domestic services, all base their business model on a large pool of cheap and easily exploited labor.

That all has to change if we want to see significant reform of our immigration laws & policies.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:17:14am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Entire industries, from agriculture, to food processing to food service, construction, landscaping & domestic services, all base their business model on a large pool of cheap and easily exploited labor.

That all has to change if we want to see significant reform of our immigration laws & policies.

Correct. It’s tough though since they’re going from even worse wages south of the border. It creates this ugly reality we’re in where corporate can exploit these people and make them fear complaining because they can call ICE since ICE is only interested in going after immigrants not employers.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:20:28am

re: #118 Kilroy was here

I’m more evolved than that

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My only religious symbol - it was on my car until the adhesive broke down after about 10 years.

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Ming5000  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:30:56am

re: #168 Feline Fearless Leader

ahhh…
5th down on duckduckgo search.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:35:46am

I’m finally going to read or rather listen to Obama’s Dreams From My Father and then Michelle’s. I miss the Obama’s thatvmuch.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:38:10am

re: #159 GlutenFreeJesus

This is exactly what happened. Guaranteed.

It’s America’s dirty little open secret. There are industries in the US that rely on undocumented workers in order to maximize their profitability.

And if those workers become inconvenient, or costly, or quarrelsome, they can be deported with minimal fuss.

Disgusting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:40:09am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

It’s America’s dirty little open secret. There are industries in the US that rely on undocumented workers in order to maximize their profitability.

And if those workers become inconvenient, or costly, or quarrelsome, they can be deported with minimal fuss.

Disgusting.

This is an issue that was supposed to be addressed by the immigration reform in the late 1980’s but it is clear that those were only window dressing.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:41:53am

re: #168 Feline Fearless Leader

I have one of these:

Cthulhu fish
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:43:46am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is an issue that was supposed to be addressed by the immigration reform in the late 1980’s but it is clear that those were only window dressing.

I believe the RWNJs are still whinging about saint ronnie’s betrayal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:45:22am

re: #174 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I believe the RWNJs are still whinging about saint ronnie’s betrayal.

GW Bush tried to implement comprehensive and generally humane immigration reform but was stymied by his own party.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:48:32am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GW Bush tried to implement comprehensive and generally humane immigration reform but was stymied by his own party.

Was ronnie’s simply an amnesty?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:48:38am

The problem as I see it is that legal immigration is a time consuming and expensive process. Rather the process of staying legal.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:50:51am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GW Bush tried to implement comprehensive and generally humane immigration reform but was stymied by his own party.

I remember that fiasco - the wingnuts went absolutely berserk.

They’ve been blocking it ever since. And if, somehow, immigration reform were to go through, I have little doubt they’d resort to violence, quite similar to what we’re seeing now.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 4:59:18am

re: #178 Dr Lizardo

I remember that fiasco - the wingnuts went absolutely berserk.

They’ve been blocking it ever since. And if, somehow, immigration reform were to go through, I have little doubt they’d resort to violence, quite similar to what we’re seeing now.

Bush was the one who said jobs Americans won’t do as I recall. I’m sad to say but George W Bush understood immigration better than Bernie Sanders.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:10:16am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:12:39am

re: #180 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Imagine being a self fancied “nationalist” who likes to stick her ass into another country’s affairs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:17:35am

re: #176 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Was ronnie’s simply an amnesty?

It also changed the law to ostensibly make it illegal for employers to hire undocumented immigrants.

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steve_davis  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:20:45am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If you ever wondered how the Civil War tore families apart lining up on both sides, I think we’re seeing the same under Trump.

A couple years ago there was a discussion here asking “if you had a Trumper family member, would you cut them off” and my answer was an unequivocal “yes.”

Fortunately I don’t have family members like that (although some of the religious family members who cut me off might be Trumpers; I haven’t spoken to them in decades so I don’t know).

even my irritatingly conservative sister’s irritatingly conservative family didn’t vote Trump. And fortunately, she produced two smart young men who are Democrats.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:23:26am

re: #183 steve_davis

even my irritatingly conservative sister’s irritatingly conservative family didn’t vote Trump. And fortunately, she produced two smart young men who are Democrats.

A conservative of my acquaintance back in the US can’t stand Trump, not one iota.

He actually voted for Hillary, LOL - as he put it, “better the devil you know than a scam artist from the Big Apple”.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:26:20am

re: #184 Dr Lizardo

A conservative of my acquaintance back in the US can’t stand Trump, not one iota.

He actually voted for Hillary, LOL - as he put it, “better the devil you know than a scam artist from the Big Apple”.

What’s weird to me is there are a lot of conservatives who can’t stand Trump and some lefties- Greenwald, Stein, Sarandon, etc who act like he’s not that bad or that the lib establishment is worse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:28:56am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

What’s weird to me is there are a lot of conservatives who can’t stand Trump and some lefties- Greenwald, Stein, Sarandon, etc who act like he’s not that bad or that the lib establishment is worse.

There are a lot of Putinversteher out there who also insist things like “Hillary is the real warmonger”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:34:55am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are a lot of Putinversteher out there who also insist things like “Hillary is the real warmonger”

I know. It’s still weird.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:38:19am

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

Get yourself one of these:

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I prefer this.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:39:09am

re: #118 Kilroy was here

I’m more evolved than that

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You beat me to it. :-)

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:41:49am

re: #123 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I haven’t watched it since the premier episode. Has anyone won anything significant? Did anyone make it all the way through?

I like the trivia aspect but they lost me on the whole spinning thing, as well as the luck of the draw at the end. Jeopardy mixed with Deal or No Deal. Meh.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:48:25am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Since when are they amongst the most popular service animals?

Lots of grifters try to claim that other animals are service animals under the law. That is not so.

However, miniature horses are listed in the ADA in addition to dogs, provided they meet certain requirements.

ada.gov

The Great Plains ADA Center has the description of what a miniature horse has to fit to be considered a service animal. Huh, ya learn something new every day.

(with photo of such a horse, measurements, and required markings)
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I saw a show about a blind woman with a service mini horse. It was pretty amazing.

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jeffreyw  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:53:44am

Rode hard. Put away wet.

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:54:25am

re: #192 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Looks like you have a Skesis problem there.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 5:57:27am

re: #192 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

What happened to that guy? Is he a…what is it called…fledgling?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:08:34am

re: #194 MsJ

What happened to that guy? Is he a…what is it called…fledgling?

Cardinal Sin

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Kilroy was here  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:13:47am
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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:16:15am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

I got called a racist on Twitter today, for identifying that Trump’s a white fucking supremacist and Howard Kurtz is defendin Trump’s white supremacist actions and claims the media is being mean to Trump that Trump can’t defend himself for his words and actions.

Yeah, calling the racists racist is itself racist.

These people. The MAGADiots are impervious to facts or logic, and think their meme dumbassery will prove something. It just makes it easier to block all these self identifying deplorables and bots. Funny how that works.

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ckkatz  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:17:14am

re: #194 MsJ

Doesn’t look like molting. Possibly a skin issue. Possibly attacked by other birds. Self mutilation is also a possibility. Loss of insulation and protection probably not conducive to survival.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:17:57am

re: #197 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

I got called a racist on Twitter today, for identifying that Trump’s a white fucking supremacist and Howard Kurtz is defendin Trump’s white supremacist actions and claims the media is being mean to Trump that Trump can’t defend himself for his words and actions.

Yeah, calling the racists racist is itself racist.

These people. The MAGADiots are impervious to facts or logic, and think their meme dumbassery will prove something. It just makes it easier to block all these self identifying deplorables and bots. Funny how that works.

I’m so sick of that crap. He spews racism, tweets it, etc.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:17:57am
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jeffreyw  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:24:43am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

I am Richard Milhous Aquafortist.

I first read that as “aquafarting” and was wondering how they monetized that. I then saw that I was mistaken but I still have the same question.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:25:28am

re: #200 lawhawk

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But we can separate families. JFC

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:28:05am

Well my friends it’s a travel day. Off to Atlanta for the first time in 20 years. Quick weekend trip fly out today, back Sunday.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:29:22am
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:33:36am

re: #203 Rightwingconspirator

Enjoy and have a safe trip.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:35:40am

your the real racist because you call me a racist

there just using that term to restrict free conservative speech

if you are going label everything that does not fit your liberal world view “racist”, then I’m a racist!

I have black/Latino/Muslim friends!

the Democrat Party founded the KKK!

etc…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:35:50am

re: #204 lawhawk

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She tweeted that the Pittsburgh victims deserved to die ffs.

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Old Liberal  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:38:22am

re: #56 HappyWarrior

So her logic is because she’s mistaken for Latino, Trump isn’t racist.

I couldn’t detect ANY logic there. Word salad. Broken brain syndrome.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:38:56am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

She tweeted that the Pittsburgh victims deserved to die ffs.

Well, to be ‘fair’, that’s bigotry/antisemitism, not racism.

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:41:51am

re: #184 Dr Lizardo

A conservative of my acquaintance back in the US can’t stand Trump, not one iota.

He actually voted for Hillary, LOL - as he put it, “better the devil you know than a scam artist from the Big Apple”.

PJ O’Roarke endorsed Hillary on the grounds that “she’s wrong about everything, but she’s wrong within normal parameters. The country can survive her kind of wrong.”

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:42:31am

Incoming from the 2d Circuit:

Also, expect Trump to go on a tweet bender once he begins to see the scope of the documents released.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:43:12am

re: #209 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Well, to be ‘fair’, that’s bigotry/antisemitism, not racism.

It’s insane how in denial about bigotry a big chunk of the population of.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:44:43am

re: #205 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. Work and a little fun in the evenings with friends.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:45:54am

re: #213 Rightwingconspirator

I’ll wave at ya from the northern suburbs… safe travels!

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:45:55am

I had slightly higher hopes for Walmart

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:46:30am

re: #211 lawhawk

If the scope is wide then there will be a tweet storm of Hurricane Andrew proportions.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:46:39am

re: #215 DangerMan

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:47:39am

re: #217 lawhawk

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They’re not even stopping the sale of the games, just the ads for them.

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:48:44am

re: #200 lawhawk

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The El Paso shooter, his mother called the cops a few months ago expressing concern about his weaponry, personality, maturity level, and what he might do. The cops said “sorry, he’s legally allowed.”

A red flag law definitely would have prevented this particular shooting.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:50:26am

re: #217 lawhawk

Actually, it’s even worse than that. They’re not going to stop selling the games. They’re just going to stop running the ads in the monitors they have above the cases where they keep games.

It’s just a con.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:50:30am

re: #218 Feline Fearless Leader

They’re not even stopping the sale of the games, just the ads for them.

marketing came up with this as their three biggest customer groups are

male gun nuts

female mothers of kids from multiple gun-nut partners

game-playing offspring who live at home with one or the other of above

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:50:39am

re: #211 lawhawk

Incoming from the 2d Circuit:

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Also, expect Trump to go on a tweet bender once he begins to see the scope of the documents released.

Bender Shit Bricks [720p]

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:51:16am

re: #219 sagehen

The El Paso shooter, his mother called the cops a few months ago expressing concern about his weaponry, personality, maturity level, and what he might do. The cops said “sorry, he’s legally allowed.”

A red flag law definitely would have prevented this particular shooting.

I understand that. However, I also foresee a red flag law being abused as any brown person seen holding a gun is constantly reported to and then harassed by law enforcement.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:52:55am

Amazing story of twin Chinese girls who were separated when one was kidnapped by Family-Planning agents and ultimately adopted by an American family and how they were reunited recently.

“….In 2009, as a Beijing-based correspondent, I traveled the backwaters of central China to learn more about the origins of the more than 80,000 girls who had been adopted in the United States.

The prevailing wisdom was that rural Chinese had essentially thrown away their female babies because the law limited them to one child and they preferred boys. No doubt that was often the case. But reports were surfacing that government officials were snatching babies to satisfy a lucrative adoption market.

I went to investigate, traveling to remote mountain villages, sometimes leaving the car to hike because the roads were impassable.

One of the families I met in a village wedged between rice paddies in Hunan province had lost one of their twin daughters. Twins are normally permitted, but this family already had two older daughters.

The mother had given birth in a bamboo grove, trying to avoid detection by the government. She and her husband then fled to another province with one twin while leaving the other with an uncle and aunt. But one day when the girls were almost 2 years old, five men working for family planning stormed the house, restrained the aunt and took away the screaming toddler….”

latimes.com

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:56:27am

re: #223 Feline Fearless Leader

I understand that. However, I also foresee a red flag law being abused as any brown person seen holding a gun is constantly reported to and then harassed by law enforcement.

White people and cops haven’t needed red flag laws for that.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:57:16am

Pundit trying to spin that Trump’s going to get grand bargain on gun control.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:58:10am

re: #226 lawhawk

Nonsense. Trump doesn’t know the first thing about anything except which he can profit personally. McConnell has been sitting on the House gun control package for 6 months. Why would he suddenly change? He wont. It’s all bait-switch to avoid consequences of inaction.

They still insist on painting his clueless idiocy as some sort of sublime genius…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 6:59:30am

re: #226 lawhawk

Pundit trying to spin that Trump’s going to get grand bargain on gun control.

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Nixon had political skills.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:00:02am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They still insist on painting his clueless idiocy as some sort of sublime genius…

Like some shitty remake of Being There, with Trump in Peter Seller’s role.

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jeffreyw  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:00:10am

re: #194 MsJ

What happened to that guy? Is he a…what is it called…fledgling?

I am guessing it is molting but dunno for sure.

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b.d.  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:00:36am

re: #226 lawhawk

Pundit trying to spin that Trump’s going to get grand bargain on gun control.

[Embedded content]

Trump is a student of the broader strokes of history

hahahahahahahahahaha…..deep breath………hahahahahahahahahahaha

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:06:31am

Up re: #212 HappyWarrior

It’s insane how in denial about bigotry a big chunk of the population of.

This is a very important thing to note. A friend posted this article on her faceplant wall:

The conservative whipepo out there are very fragile, almost snowflake like.

Some white people don’t want to hear about slavery at plantations built by slaves

“It was just not what we expected.”

“I was depressed by the time I left.”

” … the tour was more of a scolding of the old South.”

“The brief mentions of the former owners were defamatory.”

“Would not recommend.”

These are a few of the apparently negative reviews posted online about guided tours of Southern plantations, some of which went viral Thursday after former Colorado congressional candidate Saira Rao tweeted a screenshot of one.

reverse racism:

“I felt [the African American tour guide] embellished her presentation and was racist towards me as a white person,” another McLeod visitor

And, the chaser/hammer to drive home the still present bigotry that is pervasive in our culture:

For those who may prefer a fuzzier, less accurate portrayal of plantation life, “Gone with the Wind” is streaming on Amazon and iTunes for $3.99 — a low price but still higher than the average slave’s wage, which was $0.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:08:20am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Correct. It’s tough though since they’re going from even worse wages south of the border. It creates this ugly reality we’re in where corporate can exploit these people and make them fear complaining because they can call ICE since ICE is only interested in going after immigrants not employers.

Employer focused problems aren’t ICE
It should be the dept of labor or unemployment or whatever department isn’t getting their payroll tax money

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:09:06am

re: #232 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Up

This is a very important thing to note. A friend posted this article on her faceplant wall:

The conservative whipepo out there are very fragile, almost snowflake like.

Some white people don’t want to hear about slavery at plantations built by slaves

[Embedded content]

reverse racism:

And, the chaser/hammer to drive home the still present bigotry that is pervasive in our culture:

Depressed by the time I left? Well? Good. I felt sad after Auschwitz. Seriously this is just getting worse and worse. And I blame the media for acting like racism has to be wearing a klan hood or swastika.

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b.d.  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:09:30am
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plansbandc  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:10:29am

William Henry Haberdasher.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:10:42am

re: #232 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I can’t stand Gone With The Wind. It’s not just from a thematic POV, either.

It’s overwrought, melodramatic, and filled to the rafters with ham acting. I know, that was the style back then but…..blecch.

Give me Serpico any day.

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plansbandc  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:11:49am

re: #122 Belafon

Pathological compassion. JFC

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:13:45am

re: #237 Dr Lizardo

I can’t stand Gone With The Wind. It’s not just from a thematic POV, either.

It’s overwrought, melodramatic, and filled to the rafters with ham acting. I know, that was the style back then but…..blecch.

Give me Serpico any day.

I haven’t seen it so I can’t comment but there are some timeless films of that era. I don’t think GWTW is one of em

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:14:51am

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:17:35am

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:18:08am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Depressed by the time I left? Well? Good. I felt sad after Auschwitz. Seriously this is just getting worse and worse. And I blame the media for acting like racism has to be wearing a klan hood or swastika.

As the GWTW point noted (obliquely), they wanted their idealized southern plantation with a gentleman ‘farmer’ in a white suit, wifey-poo overseeing the ‘happy’ (AA) cooks, and sanitized Mammy watching the babbies.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:19:43am

This made me genuinely laugh out loud.

A farting politician shut down a session of parliament in Kenya as members blamed each other for the offending smell.

The row broke out in the Homa Bay county assembly on Wednesday after one lawmaker accused a colleague of ‘polluting the air’.

The MP in question denied the claims and insisted that ‘I cannot do such a thing in front of my colleagues’, according to Kenyan media.

The speaker hurriedly ordered air fresheners to be brought to the chamber to tackle the problem.

dailymail.co.uk

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:19:51am

re: #237 Dr Lizardo

Imho. When you go back that far, acting was still stage style, a little overacted, less influenced by later camera/editing/lighting work that allowed the actors to get more real. The old melodramas are unwatchable for me.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:20:44am

re: #218 Feline Fearless Leader

They’re not even stopping the sale of the games, just the ads for them.

That would eat into the profits too much

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:21:42am

re: #242 Colère Tueur de Lapin

As the GWTW point noted (obliquely), they wanted their idealized southern plantation with a gentleman ‘farmer’ in a white suit, wifey-poo overseeing the ‘happy’ (AA) cooks, and sanitized Mammy watching the babbies.

Like I posted yesterday, sounds like what that woman wanted to hear was the Uncle Ruckus version of slavery.

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Sea Mexican  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:21:58am

Game of Thrones meet Puerto Rico.

Bloomberg’s story on the PR political crisis: Puerto Rico Had Three Governors in a Week. No. 4 Is on Deck.

Just a day after Puerto Rico got its third governor in less than a week, the ruling party’s leaders are attempting to maneuver a new one into place. But No. 3 may not cede office easily to No. 4.

Former Governor Ricardo Rossello was forced to resign Friday after massive street protests over leaked text messages that disparaged regular Puerto Ricans. Then, his chosen successor, Pedro Pierluisi, was removed by the island’s Supreme Court because the local Senate didn’t act on his confirmation. And then Justice Secretary Wanda Vazquez — next in the line of succession — was sworn in as the rightful governor.

At a Thursday press conference at Puerto Rico’s legislature following closed-door negotiations, leaders of the ruling New Progressive Party called for the commonwealth’s nonvoting representative in the U.S. Congress, Jenniffer Gonzalez, to assume the governorship and for Vasquez to resign.

“Those of us who are here are the elected government of Puerto Rico and represent the elected majority of the people of Puerto Rico,” said Senate President Thomas Rivera Schatz. “Wanda Vazquez got there by constitutional provisions, not because of the support of anyone.”

Clearly the party didn’t learn the lesson. They’re still in the same old mentality, and looking to continue business as usual. The excuse that Vazquez isn’t an elected official isn’t important for the succession: the law is clear that it’s her duty now.

I’m a tad bewildered at this turn of events. Vazquez, for all purposes, is a member of the ruling party. Sure, her closet is quite roomy, but it’s not like Gonzalez is a saint, or a charismatic leader that could ease most people’s fears. So, this is merely more of the same small mind politics that ended Rossello’s career.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:22:20am

re: #242 Colère Tueur de Lapin

As the GWTW point noted (obliquely), they wanted their idealized southern plantation with a gentleman ‘farmer’ in a white suit, wifey-poo overseeing the ‘happy’ (AA) cooks, and sanitized Mammy watching the babbies.

Yeah they do. I must confess for a little while I bought the reluctant slave owner mythos on Jefferson when I was young but I researched Monticello when I worked at a history magazine. He was brutal.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:23:18am

re: #244 Rightwingconspirator

Imho. When you go back that far, acting was still stage style, a little overacted, less influenced by later camera/editing/lighting work that allowed the actors to get more real. The old melodramas are unwatchable for me.

Exactly - the acting is very stage-style. I really can’t watch those old melodramas either.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:23:49am

re: #226 lawhawk

Pundit trying to spin that Trump’s going to get grand bargain on gun control.

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Trump isn’t gonna negotiate anything major
He’s not driving this bus
He’s gonna “get” what ever Mitch and the NRA decide
Which is probably nothing

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:24:23am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They still insist on painting his clueless idiocy as some sort of sublime genius…

Else they’d have no other way to explain any of this

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lizardofid  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:25:09am

re: #243 Dr Lizardo

This made me genuinely laugh out loud.

dailymail.co.uk

Sounds like they had an Active Pooter Response in place.

Oh, good morning!

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:26:58am

re: #232 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Up

This is a very important thing to note. A friend posted this article on her faceplant wall:

The conservative whipepo out there are very fragile, almost snowflake like.

Some white people don’t want to hear about slavery at plantations built by slaves

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reverse racism:

And, the chaser/hammer to drive home the still present bigotry that is pervasive in our culture:

This here:. “I felt [the African American tour guide] embellished her presentation and was racist towards me as a white person,” another McLeod visitor

That’s not what racisim is or how it works
You are a ass

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:27:39am

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

I honestly believe that both my parents would have split their tickets. I know I did vote for Hillary because she has far more political savvy than DT has in his whole organization.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:28:08am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Depressed by the time I left? Well? Good. I felt sad after Auschwitz. Seriously this is just getting worse and worse. And I blame the media for acting like racism has to be wearing a klan hood or swastika.

Even then it’ll be a fashion statement or body art or some other excuse or normalization

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:28:39am

Sometimes there are good things on reddit.

/s is like a condom except it’s only used online and it prevents people from thinking you have brain worms

Always wear protection, kids

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:29:07am

OK, this is just fuckin’…..weird:

GIBSONTON, Fla. (FOX 13) - Deputies say a man drove a golf cart into a Walmart in Gibsonton and attempted to run people over.

Deputies arrived and began speaking with the man, identified as 56-year-old Michael Hudson. While speaking with deputies, Hudson suddenly accelerated the golf cart through the heavily congested pedestrian area in front of the store toward the main entrance.

The sheriff’s office said Hudson nearly struck numerous pedestrians who ran to avoid being hit.

Despite being ordered to stop, deputies said Hudson continued at a high rate of speed and crashed the golf cart through the glass front doors, and continued accelerating into the checkout area of the store.

Hudson crashed into a cash register after hitting several patrons, while others managed to jump out of the way, the sheriff’s office said.

fox13news.com

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:30:37am

OFFS:

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:30:42am

re: #254 PhillyPretzel

I honestly believe that both my parents would have split their tickets. I know I did vote for Hillary because she has far more political savvy than DT has in his whole organization.

The one thing I have to give Reagan credit for is my mother probably would have been voting conservative for a while but hates Republicans because his administration bounced my dad, who had developed epilepsy while in Vietnam, out of SSDI.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:31:48am

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:32:22am

re: #258 lawhawk

OFFS:

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Of course not. It’s not a law and order issue. It’s about terrorizing immigrants.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:32:58am

re: #256 Sufficient unto the day…

Sometimes there are good things on reddit.

Definitely. I enjoy the “listen to this”, “music”, “documentaries” and “unresolved mysteries” subreddits myself.

The other day, I found out through the “unresolved mysteries” sub that a previously unidentified homicide victim, known only by the moniker “Orange Socks” had been officially ID’d through DNA. Sad story, of course, but the true identity of “Orange Socks” was one of those puzzling Texas mysteries.

It turned out she was from Abilene, TX. Her family never reported her missing because she’d had a prior history of running away from home.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:33:49am

re: #242 Colère Tueur de Lapin

As the GWTW point noted (obliquely), they wanted their idealized southern plantation with a gentleman ‘farmer’ in a white suit, wifey-poo overseeing the ‘happy’ (AA) cooks, and sanitized Mammy watching the babbies.

Who they “don’t know nuthin’ about birthin’”

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Old Liberal  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:33:58am

re: #251 DangerMan

Else they’d have no other way to explain any of this

I don’t know how to assess drumpf. I don’t want to create Schrodinger’s drumpf. I think he is good at manipulating the media and good at identifying marks that he can cheat, which is basically what the rubes are. He knows how to blackmail and with Putin has the NRA/republicans compromised. Drumpf is compromised as well. But drumpf is playing way out of his league as president which is where he looks like a fool.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:34:40am

re: #262 Dr Lizardo

Definitely. I enjoy the “listen to this”, “music”, “documentaries” and “unresolved mysteries” subreddits myself.

The other day, I found out through the “unresolved mysteries” sub that a previously unidentified homicide victim, known only by the moniker “Orange Socks” had been officially ID’d through DNA. Sad story, of course, but the true identity of “Orange Socks” was one of those puzzling Texas mysteries.

It turned out she was from Abilene, TX. Her family never reported her missing because she’d had a prior history of running away from home.

What was her name and when was her disappearance? I’m from Abilene.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:35:18am

My parents both voted against Trump no hesitations. I have one grandparent left who also did. My Dad’s parents I’m certain would have too. My mom’s father probably would have sadly liked some of the anti illegal rhetoric and talk about returning manufacturing jobs but I think he would have seen what a selfish and bigoted prick Trump is.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:36:47am

re: #262 Dr Lizardo

Definitely. I enjoy the “listen to this”, “music”, “documentaries” and “unresolved mysteries” subreddits myself.

The other day, I found out through the “unresolved mysteries” sub that a previously unidentified homicide victim, known only by the moniker “Orange Socks” had been officially ID’d through DNA. Sad story, of course, but the true identity of “Orange Socks” was one of those puzzling Texas mysteries.

It turned out she was from Abilene, TX. Her family never reported her missing because she’d had a prior history of running away from home.

Wow that’s like one of the most infamous unidentified cold cases. I’m glad they finally id’ed her but still.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:37:05am

re: #247 Sea Mexican

Suetonius would nod approvingly at the Year of the Four Governors… Wardens of the South, Leader of the Andals.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:38:03am

re: #264 Old Liberal

I don’t know how to assess drumpf. I don’t want to create Schrodinger’s drumpf. I think he is good at manipulating the media and good at identifying marks that he can cheat, which is basically what the rubes are. He knows how to blackmail and with Putin has the NRA/republicans compromised. Drumpf is compromised as well. But drumpf is playing way out of his league as president which is where he looks like a fool.

Trump’s biggest skill is violating norms. He’s great at getting away with stuff that other people would stop themselves from doing because he will just do them. What makes him even more dangerous right now, though, is that the GOP, and McConnell in particular, refuse to enforce actual laws, which means he will try even more things that we would never do.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:38:39am

re: #265 Belafon

What was her name and when was her disappearance? I’m from Abilene.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:39:22am

re: #265 Belafon

What was her name and when was her disappearance? I’m from Abilene.

Never mind. Found it. Debra Jackson. She was my dad’s age.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:39:47am

Trumpworld is absolutely gutting basic science and functions of federal agencies - relocating on short notice is intended to destroy federal agencies.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:41:11am

re: #264 Old Liberal

I don’t know how to assess drumpf. I don’t want to create Schrodinger’s drumpf. I think he is good at manipulating the media and good at identifying marks that he can cheat, which is basically what the rubes are. He knows how to blackmail and with Putin has the NRA/republicans compromised. Drumpf is compromised as well. But drumpf is playing way out of his league as president which is where he looks like a fool.

That’s the point. Hes def a media savant of a sort though ham handed not deft.

He’s not any kind of a president at all. He doesn’t work. That’s really just a cover for his grift and self promotion.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:42:26am

re: #272 lawhawk

I can just see the remarks from DT: We do not need the USDA and look at all of the money we are saving. I will be able to build my wall with it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:42:46am

Utterly sickening.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:43:01am

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

I can just see the remarks from DT: We do not need the USDA and look at all of the money we are saving. I will be able to build my wall with it.

So long safe food.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:43:23am

re: #273 DangerMan

That’s the point. Hes def a media savant of a sort though ham handed not deft.

He’s not any kind of a president at all. He doesn’t work. That’s really just a cover for his grift and self promotion.

If I am pressed to give an opinion on Trump to anybody I do not know or know to be a supporter, I just say that I do not find him qualified for the office of Chief Executive and have seen nothing that he has done so far to change that opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:43:46am

re: #275 The Pie Overlord!

Utterly sickening.

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I understand the family apparently requested it. It doesn’t change this being disgusting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:44:05am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

So long safe food.

The invisible hand of the market will kill all those invisible pathogens!!!

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:45:01am

re: #275 The Pie Overlord!

Utterly sickening.

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My 273 point in one pic.

A president does not act this way
A shameless clueless self promoter does.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:46:34am

re: #226 lawhawk

Pundit trying to spin that Trump’s going to get grand bargain on gun control.

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Mark Halperin??? Wasn’t he another one who lost his position due to MeToo? People take him seriously?????

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:46:56am

I’m a child of the 90’s. Trump wasn’t invisible to me. He made cameos in movies. He was honestly like Paris Hilton. Famous for being famous. He was seen as a joke. The type of person that exemplified why people didn’t like snobby rich businessmen. Never thought he would be President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:51:42am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

I’m a child of the 90’s. Trump wasn’t invisible to me. He made cameos in movies. He was honestly like Paris Hilton. Famous for being famous. He was seen as a joke. The type of person that exemplified why people didn’t like snobby rich businessmen. Never thought he would be President.

Nobody did, not even himself. But some GOP strategists figured out that they could win with him.

Michael Moore pointed it out as early as the summer of 2016, but he was correct.

It was all in the mathematics of the EC: all Trump had to do was carry all the states that Romney won in 2012 (no problem there) plus the four Rust Belt states of PA, OH, MI and WI. With those votes, he would not even need Florida.

The GOP concentrated their efforts on those four states and won them all by paper-thin margins, generally less than the total of disenfranchised or Independent voters.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:53:06am

re: #283 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nobody did, not even himself. But some GOP strategists figured out that they could win with him.

Michael Moore pointed it out as early as the summer of 2016, but he was correct.

It was all in the mathematics of the EC: all Trump had to do was carry all the states that Romney won in 2012 (no problem there) plus the four Rust Belt states of PA, OH, MI and WI. With those votes, he would not even need Florida.

The GOP concentrated their efforts on those four states and won them all by paper-thin margins, generally less than the total of disenfranchised or Independent voters.

Moore contributed to that imo. He owns some of this.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:53:44am

re: #275 The Pie Overlord!

Utterly sickening.

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I read that the uncle, on the left, who is now the child’s guardian, is a Trump supporter, and was willing to bring the child back up to the hospital.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:54:36am
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John Hughes  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:55:29am

re: #50 The Pie Overlord!

That’s the plantation tour that got the bad Yelp review from white tourists who didn’t want to hear about the slavery.

My husband and I were extremely disappointed in this tour of Auschwitz. We didn’t come to hear a lecture on how the Nazis treated Jews…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:57:34am

re: #287 John Hughes

My husband and I were extremely disappointed in this tour of Auschwitz. We didn’t come to hear a lecture on how the Nazis treated Jews…

This battlefield tour told me war was brutal.///

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BlueGrl21  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:58:22am

re: #219 sagehen

The El Paso shooter, his mother called the cops a few months ago expressing concern about his weaponry, personality, maturity level, and what he might do. The cops said “sorry, he’s legally allowed.”

A red flag law definitely would have prevented this particular shooting.

Correct.

We were in a situation with my father where we needed to get his guns away from him. Because he had not yet been diagnosed with a mental illness we had no way to do it. We snuck the guns out of the house one day. He was diagnosed as Bipolar 1 with psychotic features about a month later.

Which then created a situation where we could keep guns out of his possession. But people have to be diagnosed.

It’s a huge mess here. Red flag laws are needed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:58:28am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Moore contributed to that imo. He owns some of this.

I do not think so in this particular case.

Although he certainly contributed to the attitude that Hillary was no worse than Donald Trump, in the article where he described ho Trump could win, he came out in begrudging support of Hillary.

I have to admit that I found him an obnoxious gadfly and ignored his article when it came out. I only read it after the fact, but in that respect, he was spot-on and had seen through the GOP strategy.

Something that Hillary and her team seemingly failed to do…

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 7:58:34am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

I didn’t come to Antietam to learn that the South fought to preserve the institution of slavery.

I didn’t come to Gettysburg to learn that Lincoln once gave a speech here freeing the slaves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:00:09am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

This battlefield tour told me war was brutal.///

The prehistoric humans exhibit was awful, our ancestors had nothing directly to do with driving mammoths and mastodons to extinction!!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:01:50am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not think so in this particular case.

Although he certainly contributed to the attitude that Hillary was no worse than Donald Trump, in the article where he described ho Trump could win, he came out in begrudging support of Hillary.

I have to admit that I found him an obnoxious gadfly and ignored his article when it came out. I only read it after the fact, but in that respect, he was spot-on and had seen through the GOP strategy.

Something that Hillary and her team seemingly failed to do…

People who said HRC was as bad as Trump are responsible and even if he was right, he’s still an obnoxious boor who was a condescending jerk to the best President in the last 50 years.

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:01:51am

re: #281 Hecuba’s daughter

Mark Halperin??? Wasn’t he another one who lost his position due to MeToo? People take him seriously?????

Here’s the Criticism section of his Wikipedia page:

On June 30, 2011, Halperin was suspended from his duties at MSNBC for “slurring” President Barack Obama on the program Morning Joe, saying the President came off as “kind of a dick” during the previous day’s press conference. His suspension was lifted a little over a month later.

In December 2011, Halperin was listed as #1 in the Salon website’s 2011 Hack List, his reporting described as “shallow and predictable” as well as “both fixated solely on the horse race and also uniquely bad at analyzing the horse race.”

The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank called Halperin’s analysis in the 2016 United States presidential campaign “soulless” and “amoral,” and cited a number of instances where Halperin praised Republican nominee Donald Trump. Alex Shephard, writing in The New Republic, criticized his coverage for being overly focused on the horse race and for shallow analysis. Conversely, Benjamin Wallace-Wells of ‘The New Yorker’ writes that Halperin’s ‘The Circus’ is “both an argument for horse-race journalism and a way to see its inner workings, and so to track Heilemann and Halperin in their long traipse across the American interior is to see the media discovering its own vulnerabilities, just as Trump was exploiting them.”

In November 2016, Brian Williams said Halperin had “gone out of his way” to give Trump favorable coverage

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:02:15am

re: #291 lawhawk

I did not come to the Normandy Coast to hear about the men who died when they invaded France to get rid of the Nazis. (My dear late dad would get the sarcasm but would still be upset.)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:02:31am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

So long safe food.

USDA is a marketing, farm research, and trade promotion for the US. That’s why gutting the Economic Research arm of USDA will harm trade and innovation for farmers.

FDA is food safety; while USDA does do meat inspection, their main focus is compliance. Oh, and worker safety. See a pattern here?

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:04:37am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Moore contributed to that imo. He owns some of this.

Moore was a big Nader supporter in 2000; but he learned his lesson. Susan Sarandon did not.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:04:44am

re: #250 DangerMan

Trump isn’t gonna negotiate anything major
He’s not driving this bus
He’s gonna “get” what ever Mitch and the NRA decide
Which is probably nothing

Oh, don’t discount the NRA giving money directly to trump. He may not be driving the bus, but he is taking the Uber to the bank. Same with Jared. Money is what drives all of them and the NRA is doling it out.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:05:48am

re: #296 Colère Tueur de Lapin

USDA is a marketing, farm research, and trade promotion for the US. That’s why gutting the Economic Research arm of USDA will harm trade and innovation for farmers.

FDA is food safety; while USDA does do meat inspection, their main focus is compliance. Oh, and worker safety. See a pattern here?

A little bit of human in the beef never hurt anyone. //

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:06:19am

re: #296 Colère Tueur de Lapin

USDA is a marketing, farm research, and trade promotion for the US. That’s why gutting the Economic Research arm of USDA will harm trade and innovation for farmers.

FDA is food safety; while USDA does do meat inspection, their main focus is compliance. Oh, and worker safety. See a pattern here?

Isn’t FDA part of the USDA?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:06:51am

re: #297 sagehen

Moore was a big Nader supporter in 2000; but he learned his lesson. Susan Sarandon did not.

He did more than Susan I concede but I don’t think he fully did.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:08:37am

I remember Moore- never been elected or had to make any truly difficult political decisions telling Obama to act more black. And acting like HRC was no different than Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:11:35am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Moore contributed to that imo. He owns some of this.

Moore did support Hillary wholeheartedly. And Trump needed only Ohio + one of WI, MI, and PA — he didn’t need all three of those states. The EC is destroying us.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:15:20am

re: #303 Hecuba’s daughter

Moore did support Hillary wholeheartedly. And Trump needed only Ohio + one of WI, MI, and PA — he didn’t need all three of those states. The EC is destroying us.

He did not support her wholeheartedly. I’m sorry but he pushed the bs Bernie got robbed bs. The EC is the culprit but he owns some of it by not pointing out the truth which is that HRC was way better than Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:15:22am

re: #303 Hecuba’s daughter

Moore did support Hillary wholeheartedly. And Trump needed only Ohio + one of WI, MI, and PA — he didn’t need all three of those states. The EC is destroying us.

I am in favor of keeping the EC but

a) re-weighting it to represent each state’s population, not its congressional delegates,

and

b) only have it kick in if no candidate wins a clear majority of the popular vote.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:16:37am

re: #303 Hecuba’s daughter

Moore did support Hillary wholeheartedly. And Trump needed only Ohio + one of WI, MI, and PA — he didn’t need all three of those states. The EC is destroying us.

Being able to keep Florida in the GOP column makes it easy for them to get a few small states and win, which is why Republicans there are doing everythign to suppress the vote.

Now, if Texas goes blue, that will be a game changer, which is why the GOP is going to do all sorts of underhanded things in 2022.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:17:16am

Never saw Moore rallying for Clinton in his home state of Michigan. I did see him going on Bill Maher and pushing bs that the Bros wanted to hear.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:17:43am

re: #306 Belafon

Being able to keep Florida in the GOP column makes it easy for them to get a few small states and win, which is why Republicans there are doing everythign to suppress the vote.

apathy and indifference are the best forms of voter suppression, and they were what won it for the GOP in 2016

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:18:09am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Never saw Moore rallying for Clinton in his home state of Michigan. I did see him going on Bill Maher and pushing bs that the Bros wanted to hear.

Anyone who talked about Bernie long after he lost helped trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:19:23am

re: #294 sagehen

Here’s the Criticism section of his Wikipedia page:

But it was his MeToo involvement that led to his losing his gig on the networks — not his Trump bias or his Obama insults.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:19:35am

re: #309 I Would Prefer Not To

Anyone who talked about Bernie long after he lost helped trump.

Exactly. No he’s not the same as Trump himself but he’s akin to the German far left who berated the best chances to stop Hitler & the NSDAP.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:20:09am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Isn’t FDA part of the USDA?

We (I work for FDA) are not. We’re under Health and Human Services, but sometimes funded in a weird way that is ancillary to HHS.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:20:38am

Frankly I find Moore a left wing Limbaugh. He’s happiest when the right rules because it helps his bottom line.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:21:02am

re: #312 Colère Tueur de Lapin

We (I work for FDA) are not. We’re under Health and Human Services, but sometimes funded in a weird way that is ancillary to HHS.

Oh sorry. My bad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:22:07am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Frankly I find Moore a left wing Limbaugh. He’s happiest when the right rules because it helps his bottom line.

a gadfly and attention whore. has the occasional good point but it is lost in his self-ingratiating flurry

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:22:49am

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:24:08am

re: #316 Joe Bacon 🌹

You hit it center of mass.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:24:13am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a gadfly and attention whore. has the occasional good point but it is lost in his self-ingratiating flurry

Correct. He was right about the rust belt but did nothing to help. He likes seeing himself on TV and as I said he was a jerk to Obama because Obama couldn’t do everything. He’s a double standard lefty holier then thou dick.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:26:29am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Oh sorry. My bad.

No worries, it seems to be a common misconception.

And why aren’t the food agencies under one overarching agency? Is the next question/comment; often. It’s been talked about and it would most likely cause more problems than it would solve. Not the least of which would be combining two very different cultures that are not really compatible.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:28:34am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

apathy and indifference are the best forms of voter suppression, and they were what won it for the GOP in 2016

Keeping a few million blacks off the voter rolls never hurts them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:29:16am

re: #319 Colère Tueur de Lapin

No worries, it seems to be a common misconception.

And why aren’t the food agencies under one overarching agency? Is the next question/comment; often. It’s been talked about and it would most likely cause more problems than it would solve. Not the least of which would be combining two very different cultures that are not really compatible.

Agreed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:29:50am

re: #320 Belafon

Keeping a few million blacks off the voter rolls never hurts them.

of course that helped, but it was the millions who saw “no difference between the two” and did not get out to vote.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:30:14am

re: #320 Belafon

Keeping a few million blacks off the voter rolls never hurts them.

Yep. That’s why they won. And foreign help. And even with that she still beat him in the PV.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:33:42am
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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:34:21am

re: #316 Joe Bacon 🌹

What would have made it perfect would have been a REPEAL THE 10th or 14th. Or maybe LIBERALS SHOULD NEVER CALL THE PRESIDENT AND US RACIST! because, ya know, their concept of the 1st.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:34:59am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:35:11am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am in favor of keeping the EC but

a) re-weighting it to represent each state’s population, not its congressional delegates,

and

b) only have it kick in if no candidate wins a clear majority of the popular vote.

But either requires a Constitutional amendment. And, unfortunately, (b) would not have helped in 2016 or 2000, but it would prevent my scenario of a candidate winning 70% of the vote but losing the election.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:35:35am

Toledo—-

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:36:02am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I like Biden but he has a bad case of Foot in Mouth disease.

That said, he will never reach trump levels of insanity.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:36:31am

re: #328 Barefoot Grin

Pot meet kettle.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:37:37am

re: #329 MsJ

Joe always had that. The thing is he himself usually makes light of it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:38:58am

re: #297 sagehen

Moore was a big Nader supporter in 2000; but he learned his lesson. Susan Sarandon didWOULD not.

Fixed that. And she is STILL uttering the “Hillary would be worse” bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:39:54am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:40:06am

re: #330 PhillyPretzel

Pot meet kettle.

No kidding. This fucking guy. Sigh really hope it’s Harris or Warren.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:40:38am

re: #329 MsJ

I like Biden but he has a bad case of Foot in Mouth disease.

That said, he will never reach trump levels of insanity.

Biden does put his foot in his mouth - but yeah, this here is leg in mouth.

It’s damn near word salad.

Donald Trump’s Rambling Sentence on July 21, 2015

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:40:38am

re: #333 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

He’s an evil bastard.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:41:53am

re: #328 Barefoot Grin

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:42:04am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

DT always has been a “B.”

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:42:23am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

I’m a child of the 90’s. Trump wasn’t invisible to me. He made cameos in movies. He was honestly like Paris Hilton. Famous for being famous. He was seen as a joke. The type of person that exemplified why people didn’t like snobby rich businessmen. Never thought he would be President.

hint: he is not ‘the president’. being the president, acting like a president; that job is too tough for him. he knows it, isn’t trying to be and doesn’t really care

he’s sitting in the char
he’s got the nuclear codes
he’ll even get his portrait included with the others
those are trappings
that’s all he wanted

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:42:27am

re: #338 PhillyPretzel

DT always has been a “B.”

Yep.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:42:41am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I was both. Maybe that’s why I was in the gifted program as a kid.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:42:49am

re: #339 DangerMan

hint: he is not ‘the president’. being the president, acting like a president; that job is too tough for him. he knows it, isn’t trying to be and doesn’t really care

he’s sitting in the char
he’s got the nuclear codes
he’ll even get his portrait included with the others
those are trappings
that’s all he wanted

It’s all so fucked man.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:42:59am

re: #329 MsJ

I like Biden but he has a bad case of Foot in Mouth disease.

That said, he will never reach trump levels of insanity.

There’s a reason Biden has run for the WH 2x and failed 2x.

He’s a gaffe machine.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:44:33am

re: #298 MsJ

Oh, don’t discount the NRA giving money directly to trump. He may not be driving the bus, but he is taking the Uber to the bank. Same with Jared. Money is what drives all of them and the NRA is doling it out.

oh certainly

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:45:51am

re: #339 DangerMan

hint: he is not ‘the president’. being the president, acting like a president; that job is too tough for him. he knows it, isn’t trying to be and doesn’t really care

he’s sitting in the char
he’s got the nuclear codes
he’ll even get his portrait included with the others
those are trappings
that’s all he wanted

He does nothing but fly around campaigning, watching Fox News and ranting about it on Twitter. And golf. Oh, and he signs what he is told to sign. That is literally the only thing he does.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:45:52am

re: #327 Hecuba’s daughter

But either requires a Constitutional amendment. And, unfortunately, (b) would not have helped in 2016 or 2000, but it would prevent my scenario of a candidate winning 70% of the vote but losing the election.

I am aware of that, but that would be the long-term reform I would like to see

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:45:55am

re: #332 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fixed that. And she is STILL uttering the “Hillary would be worse” bullshit.

I still recall Moore on Bill Maher responding to charges that Hillary was involved in murdering people with the comment to the effect: that would make him support her even more because it showed what a badass she was!

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:47:07am

re: #343 lawhawk

There’s a reason Biden has run for the WH 2x and failed 2x.

He’s a gaffe machine.

And while many love him for it (and his sense of humor about it as well as his humanity), this time around every single little thing freaks me out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:47:42am

re: #348 MsJ

And while many love him for it (and his sense of humor about it as well as his humanity), this time around every single little thing freaks me out.

Just make him Secretary of State or something he is better suited for

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:48:08am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just make him Secretary of State or something he is better suited for

That I am fully on board with!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:48:11am

re: #347 Hecuba’s daughter

I still recall Moore on Bill Maher responding to charges that Hillary was involved in murdering people with the comment to the effect: that would make him support her even more because it showed what a badass she was!

something like that only works for Trump

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cat-tikvah  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:48:12am

Worthwhile read! Michael W. Twitty, Afroculinaria
“The Old South may be your American Downton Abbey but it is our American Horror Story, even under the best circumstances it represents the extraction of labor, talent and life we can never get back. When I do this work, it drains me, but I do it because I want my Ancestors to know not only are they not forgotten but I am here to testify that I am their wildest dreams manifest.”
afroculinaria.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:49:03am

re: #348 MsJ

And while many love him for it (and his sense of humor about it as well as his humanity), this time around every single little thing freaks me out.

Because he’s not going up against HW Bush or McCain. I want to give him a bod but Trump-Biden I think is exactly the race Trump would relish in. I really want Harris to emerge. Of the too four, I think she’s the best equipped.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:49:14am

re: #329 MsJ

I like Biden but he has a bad case of Foot in Mouth disease.

That said, he will never reach trump levels of insanity.

a fundamental difference and please dont mistake my explanation for excusing

biden can be inarticulate, inartful, and kludgy
imo he is not malicious, hateful or evil

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:49:20am

While we are talking about, stuff, I would like to see a constitutional amendment that the FDA, USDA and other regulatory bodies are part of the US permanently. Fuck this president by president stuff. Safeguard our food, our air, our water, our drugs. Permanently.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:50:13am

re: #333 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump defends deportation raids at Mississippi food processing plants that left children abandoned because it’s “a very good deterrent,” again floats idea of using white supremacist mass shooting & need for stronger background checks as leverage for hardline immigration reform

is it ok if ICE raids all the trump properties?
just, you know, to be sure…

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:51:14am

re: #354 DangerMan

a fundamental difference and please dont mistake my explanation for excusing

biden can be inarticulate, inartful, and kludgy
imo he is not malicious, hateful or evil

Of course not! But those gaffes are going to play on the news on repeat while trump gets a full pass.

I would prefer an attack dog playing on repeat, not something funny/embarrassing to Dems.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:51:41am

re: #356 DangerMan

I would pay a few dollars to see that.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:54:56am

re: #348 MsJ

And while many love him for it (and his sense of humor about it as well as his humanity), this time around every single little thing freaks me out.

Which is kind of funny, because the poll the other day that showed that he gets most of the AA support is because he’s seen as the safe bet. They know he has a bit of a foot-in-mouth disease, but he’s known.

I’m hoping Warren or Harris overtake him and Sanders.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:55:05am

re: #358 PhillyPretzel

I would pay a few dollars to see that.

can ICE be bought? /s

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:56:58am

re: #359 Belafon

Which is kind of funny, because the poll the other day that showed that he gets most of the AA support is because he’s seen as the safe bet. They know he has a bit of a foot-in-mouth disease, but he’s known.

I’m hoping Warren or Harris overtake him and Sanders.

I’m hoping it’s just a paper lead. Bernie and Biden aren’t the answer imo.

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Skip Intro  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:57:03am

re: #360 DangerMan

can ICE be bought? /s

ICE is a subsidiary of the Trump Organization now.

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gwangung  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:57:35am

re: #359 Belafon

Which is kind of funny, because the poll the other day that showed that he gets most of the AA support is because he’s seen as the safe bet. They know he has a bit of a foot-in-mouth disease, but he’s known.

I’m hoping Warren or Harris overtake him and Sanders.

This was the case with Clinton in 2007. Yet, in 2008, she was overtaken by Obama.

Not saying this will happen. But it can be done by a smart, canny and organized political operator.

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William Lewis  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:58:26am

re: #354 DangerMan

a fundamental difference and please dont mistake my explanation for excusing

biden can be inarticulate, inartful, and kludgy
imo he is not malicious, hateful or evil

No, he’s not malicious. But by the same time we can not afford a candidate that is ” inarticulate, inartful, and kludgy” possibly turning off even a small number of voters with his constant gaffs and errors of fact. He’s also too old and I fear is starting to have the usual memory issues age brings on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:58:53am

re: #354 DangerMan

a fundamental difference and please dont mistake my explanation for excusing

biden can be inarticulate, inartful, and kludgy
imo he is not malicious, hateful or evil

but they will make him out to be just that

when Trump is evil, they make him out to be shrewd

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:59:26am

I just glanced at the court filling. Damn. Lots of evidence. For those of you who thought Epstein would skate….(you may want to rethink).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 8:59:31am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

I’m hoping it’s just a paper lead. Bernie and Biden aren’t the answer imo.

fer effs sake, the primaries don’t start until next year

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:00:49am

OK, checking in on the DJ and it’s -250.

Just wait for the next bombshell when China dumps American stocks…

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:01:41am

re: #366 I Would Prefer Not To

As I said in my #216. It is going to be a biggie.

Corrected. I used the wrong number. Sorry.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:02:38am

re: #366 I Would Prefer Not To

I just glanced at the court filling. Damn. Lots of evidence. For those of you who thought Epstein would skate….(you may want to rethink).

[Embedded content]

DAY-UM.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:04:58am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Because he’s not going up against HW Bush or McCain. I want to give him a bod but Trump-Biden I think is exactly the race Trump would relish in. I really want Harris to emerge. Of the too four, I think she’s the best equipped.

Biden can be gaff prone, but some of his gaffs really are the fun loving Uncle Joe type. On the other hand, he tore Ryan to shreds, and Trump isn’t anywhere near as smart.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:05:43am

re: #366 I Would Prefer Not To

I just glanced at the court filling. Damn. Lots of evidence. For those of you who thought Epstein would skate….(you may want to rethink).

[Embedded content]

YES.

There IS fucking justice in the Universe.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:06:44am

re: #367 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

fer effs sake, the primaries don’t start until next year

And I think people will start to see, as the debates go on, that it’s better to do bold than safe.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:09:07am

re: #371 Belafon

Right. I like Biden a lot. Some of the gaffes are just frustrating tbh.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:09:41am

re: #372 Eclectic Cyborg

YES.

There IS fucking justice in the Universe.

Not just yet.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:10:07am

re: #366 I Would Prefer Not To

That’s the case by Virginia L. Giuffre against Maxwell, who’s alleged to be one of the people who passed on underage girls to Epstein and the Lolita Express (which expressly mentions Clinton and Dershowitz). The evidence is damning indeed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:13:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:15:58am

Trump Weighs New Stance on Guns as Pressure Mounts After Shootings

Seriously NYTimes? Please — nothing is going to be done — by the time the Congress returns in September there will be a dozen new crises as a result of this administration and the shootings will have faded into obscurity.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:16:16am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Because he’s not going up against HW Bush or McCain. I want to give him a bod but Trump-Biden I think is exactly the race Trump would relish in. I really want Harris to emerge. Of the too four, I think she’s the best equipped.

The sad truth is that Harris will only fan the flame of the GOP base even more. Which is why I’m backing Warren. She has shown that she won’t take any shit from him and she won’t back down.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:18:54am

How sad is it that I was just sitting here at my desk hoping there would be no mass shootings this weekend?

Fucking guns, man.

Also of note: This weekend is the two year anniversary of Charlottesville.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:19:06am

re: #379 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that Harris will only fan the flame of the GOP base even more. Which is why I’m backing Warren. She has shown that she won’t take any shit from him and she won’t back down.

I dunno. Warren is definitely tough though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:21:04am

Things that make you go hmmm…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:22:14am

re: #333 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

“you can’t let anybody know…”

I called it. They didn’t include CPS for fear of compromising OPSEC .

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:27:46am

re: #352 cat-tikvah

Worthwhile read! Michael W. Twitty, Afroculinaria
“The Old South may be your American Downton Abbey but it is our American Horror Story, even under the best circumstances it represents the extraction of labor, talent and life we can never get back. When I do this work, it drains me, but I do it because I want my Ancestors to know not only are they not forgotten but I am here to testify that I am their wildest dreams manifest.”
afroculinaria.com

trial prep, from Amistad:

John Quincy Adams: Cinque, look. I’m being honest with you. Anything less would be disrespectful. I’m telling you, I’m preparing you, I suppose I’m explaining to you, that the test ahead of us is an exceptionally difficult one.

Cinque: (speaking in Mende / Ens. Covey translating) We won’t be going in there alone.

John Quincy Adams: Alone? Indeed not. We have right at our side. We have righteousness at our side. We have Mr Baldwin over there.

Cinque: (speaking in Mende / Ens. Covey translating) I meant my ancestors. I will call into the past, far back to the beginning of time, and beg them to come and help me at the judgment. I will reach back and draw them into me. And they must come, for at this moment, I am the whole reason they have existed at all.

Amistad (5/8) Movie CLIP - A Call to the Ancestors (1997) HD

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:28:02am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:28:14am

re: #379 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that Harris will only fan the flame of the GOP base even more. Which is why I’m backing Warren. She has shown that she won’t take any shit from him and she won’t back down.

Any Democratic nominee will be demonized by the GOP and Russian trolls. The MSM will do its bothsiderism and ignore its due diligence in reporting. It’s going to matter who can get out their base and who can do a more effective job in damaging the other side.

As Bret Stephens said:

The main task for Democrats over the next 15 months won’t be to convince America that they need yet another health care re-invention, or that the economy is a mess, or that the system is rigged, or that the right response to Trump’s immigration demagoguery is an open border. It’s that the president is a disgrace to his office, an insult to our dignity, a threat to our Union, and a danger to our safety.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:29:27am

ICE official on children left behind after Mississippi raids: We’re ‘not a social services agency’

thehill.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:29:34am

re: #384 sagehen

trial prep, from Amistad:

John Quincy Adams: Cinque, look. I’m being honest with you. Anything less would be disrespectful. I’m telling you, I’m preparing you, I suppose I’m explaining to you, that the test ahead of us is an exceptionally difficult one.

Cinque: (speaking in Mende / Ens. Covey translating) We won’t be going in there alone.

John Quincy Adams: Alone? Indeed not. We have right at our side. We have righteousness at our side. We have Mr Baldwin over there.

Cinque: (speaking in Mende / Ens. Covey translating) I meant my ancestors. I will call into the past, far back to the beginning of time, and beg them to come and help me at the judgment. I will reach back and draw them into me. And they must come, for at this moment, I am the whole reason they have existed at all.

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I gotta say but John Quincy Adams doesn’t get his due in history.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:30:44am

re: #385 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I like how he talks down to his base and they love every minute.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:31:07am

re: #385 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Trump said, “I think my base relies very much on common sense. And they rely on me, in terms of telling them what’s happening.”]

It’s a cult. They’d drink poisoned motor oil if trump told them to.

Hey…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:31:20am

re: #387 Kilroy was here

ICE official on children left behind after Mississippi raids: We’re ‘not a social services agency’

thehill.com

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I’m on the repeal ICE wagon.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:34:53am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

I like how he talks down to his base and they love every minute.

Trump could pull his pants down and take a dump at a rally and my family would double down on their worship of him.

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:35:58am

re: #386 Hecuba’s daughter

As Bret Stephens said:

I hate it when he’s right about something. (this does not happen often)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:36:25am

re: #392 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump could pull his pants down and take a dump at a rally and my family would double down on their worship of him.

I believe it.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:38:22am

re: #382 Eclectic Cyborg

Things that make you go hmmm…

[Embedded content]

and those next two lines….!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:39:48am

re: #395 DangerMan

and those next two lines….!

I like reading about the Mafia. I think Trump Co is more scummy than them.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:39:59am

re: #395 DangerMan

There might actually be something worse than a pee tape of DT in that set of documents.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:40:48am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Some Mafia have honor. DT does not have that word in his dictionary.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:42:05am

re: #398 PhillyPretzel

Some Mafia have honor. DT does not have that word in his dictionary.

That was my thought.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:42:14am

Trump’s loyalty test is when he farts and his suckup associates compliment him on how good they smell!

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:42:18am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

I like how he talks down to his base and they love every minute.

just like trump himself, they need to be told what to think

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:43:37am

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:44:22am

404
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:45:14am

He Attacked a Teen He Felt Disrespected the National Anthem. His Lawyer Says He ‘Believed He Was Doing What President Trump Wanted’

A Montana man charged with assaulting a 13-year-old boy who refused to remove his hat during the national anthem believed he was doing what President Donald Trump wanted him to do, his attorney said.

Attorney Lance Jasper told the Missoulian he will seek a mental health evaluation for Curt Brockway, a U.S. Army veteran who he says became caught up in the heightened animosity and rhetoric gripping the nation, and convinced himself that he was following the president’s orders.

Remember these yokels IN THE OVAL OFFICE? Why didn’t Mango order the Secret Service to confiscate their headgear and throw the yokels themselves out the window?

There was also this uncouth gang:

……or the un-redacted version:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:47:07am

re: #404 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

He Attacked a Teen He Felt Disrespected the National Anthem. His Lawyer Says He ‘Believed He Was Doing What President Trump Wanted’

Remember these yokels IN THE OVAL OFFICE? Why didn’t Mango order the Secret Service to confiscate their headgear and throw the yokels themselves out the window?

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Hey we finally found Trump’s Mexican friendo. But yeah honestly this is disturbing shit and honest there’s nothing from Trump that suggests h disagrees.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:50:24am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

So, I see a lot of people wondering why the executives at that plant that ICE raided weren’t themselves arrested - you know, for illegally employing undocumented workers (which, if I’m not mistaken, is in fact against the law).

Now this is one of those things that makes me say, “Hmmm….”

thinkprogress.org

Color me cynical, but there’s one to get out of paying, huh?

Arrest and deport the workers. I’d be willing to wager a buck or two the executives set this raid up with ICE - to get rid of a now-inconvenient workforce.

from the same story:

There have been at least two other plants, one in Salem, Ohio, and another in Morristown, Tennessee, where ICE raids have followed complaints of worker conditions.

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:52:30am

re: #404 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

He Attacked a Teen He Felt Disrespected the National Anthem. His Lawyer Says He ‘Believed He Was Doing What President Trump Wanted’

other than lock me up im a loony, can anyone explain how ‘trump made me do it’, even “trump told me to do it” will work as a defense?

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b.d.  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:53:34am

re: #404 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

He Attacked a Teen He Felt Disrespected the National Anthem. His Lawyer Says He ‘Believed He Was Doing What President Trump Wanted’

Remember these yokels IN THE OVAL OFFICE? Why didn’t Mango order the Secret Service to confiscate their headgear and throw the yokels themselves out the window?

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Kid Rock is such a class act too!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:54:10am
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MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:54:25am

re: #407 DangerMan

other than lock me up im a loony, can anyone explain how ‘trump made me do it’, even “trump told me to do it” will work as a defense?

His attorneys are going for the Help I am Loony plea. Military, brain injury from a car accident, honorably discharged. He reads-between-trumps-lines (which trump actually screams out daily) and he, per his attorney, said that he is doing what trump said as the only way he can serve his country.

And I bet in MT this plays well.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:54:33am

re: #408 b.d.

Kid Rock is such a class act too!

[Embedded content]

Kid who?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:54:49am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Cowards

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:55:56am

I’m listening to Dreams From My Father. I miss this thoughtful man so much. The voice. The wisdom. The empathy.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:57:02am

Russia’s military is having itself quite the week.

Continued explosions at facility in Siberia - and no one seems to know what actually happened to cause a radiation leak at another facility in Russia that caused alerts and requests that those living nearby take Iodine tablets to counter radiation exposure in the atmosphere.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 9, 2019 • 9:57:59am

re: #352 cat-tikvah

Worthwhile read! Michael W. Twitty, Afroculinaria
“The Old South may be your American Downton Abbey but it is our American Horror Story, even under the best circumstances it represents the extraction of labor, talent and life we can never get back. When I do this work, it drains me, but I do it because I want my Ancestors to know not only are they not forgotten but I am here to testify that I am their wildest dreams manifest.”
afroculinaria.com

I paged that.

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electrotek  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:00:12am

re: #408 b.d.

Kid Rock is such a class act too!

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1999 called, they want their “American Badass” (who once fantasized about raping young girls) relegated to the dustbins of nu-metal history.

Go back to Woodstock 1999, Dad Rock.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:03:06am

re: #416 electrotek

1999 called, they want their “American Badass” (who once fantasized about raping young girls) relegated to the dustbins of nu-metal history.

Go back to Woodstock 1999, Dad Rock.

He should hang with his homies in cellblock B.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:04:12am

re: #416 electrotek

1999 called, they want their “American Badass” (who once fantasized about raping young girls) relegated to the dustbins of nu-metal history.

Go back to Woodstock 1999, Dad Rock.

19,000+ Michiganders gave their lives to save the Union during the Civil War.

This piece of White Trash gladly drapes the stage with the flag of the enemy of those who gave their lives.

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electrotek  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:04:20am

re: #417 lawhawk

He should hang with his homies in cellblock B.

Because “Only God Knows Why”…

Is it wrong for me to admit that I used to like him in 1999-2000? I WAS in high school after all.

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electrotek  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:04:49am

re: #418 Joe Bacon 🌹

19,000+ Michiganders gave their lives to save the Union during the Civil War.

This piece of White Trash gladly drapes the stage with the flag of the enemy of those who gave their lives.

Oddly enough, him and Eminem used to be VERY close friends while growing up in Detroit if I recall correctly.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:04:56am

re: #419 electrotek

Because “Only God Knows Why”…

Is it wrong for me to admit that I used to like him in 1999-2000? I WAS in high school after all.

I always thought it was a jerk.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:08:20am

Llre: #420 electrotek

Oddly enough, him and Eminem used to be VERY close friends while growing up in Detroit if I recall correctly.

I think they were friends later but before they got big. KR was from a more affluent background but Em is from a more modest one.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:09:54am

re: #406 DangerMan

from the same story:

Like I said, a convenient way to get rid of a troublesome workforce.

Utterly disgusting.

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electrotek  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:10:26am

re: #421 Joe Bacon 🌹

I always thought it was a jerk.

He was the banana fana guy

The Simpsons 11x19 Kill The Alligator And Run

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Skip Intro  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:10:59am
426
DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:11:01am

re: #411 HappyWarrior

Kid who?

i dont know the protocol, but who signs their tweets?

427
DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:11:13am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Cowards

$

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:12:02am

re: #408 b.d.

LOL has-been rock star going after one of the hottest names in pop music today.

Yeah, that should work out well.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:13:24am

re: #425 Skip Intro

“Don’t travel to Japan. Those Pokemon parades are just a front to get you to play violent vidoe games.”

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DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:13:36am

re: #425 Skip Intro

A threat by @POTUS just now to “reciprocate” against countries warning of travel to the US (namely #Japan, #Uruguay and #Venezuela).

i’ll keep saying it
he has no clue what the job is or how foreign policy works
and here, he just proved it by speaking out loud

431
DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:14:19am

re: #429 Belafon

“Don’t travel to Japan. Those Pokemon parades are just a front to get you to play violent vidoe games.”

i was thinking economic ie ‘tariffs’
it’s the only tool he knows how to use

432
electrotek  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:15:07am

re: #431 DangerMan

i was thinking economic ie ‘tariffs’
it’s the only tool he knows how to use

And his dumbass supporters in the Japanese car community and the drift scene will STILL support this fucktard even making it more expensive for many of us to buy parts and cars directly from there for our hobby.

433
Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:15:26am

re: #429 Belafon

“Don’t travel to Japan. Those Pokemon parades are just a front to get you to play violent vidoe games.”

They’re just recruiting tools for the Galactic Empire.

Pikachu The Imperial March 2

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:16:45am

re: #431 DangerMan

i was thinking economic ie ‘tariffs’
it’s the only tool he knows how to use

Probably, but I would love to see him justify a travel warning.

435
electrotek  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:17:03am

re: #434 Belafon

Probably, but I would love to see him justify a travel warning.

It’s 105JPY to 1 USD right now, and it’s fucking HURTING ME

436
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:17:17am

re: #414 lawhawk

Russia’s military is having itself quite the week.

Continued explosions at facility in Siberia - and no one seems to know what actually happened to cause a radiation leak at another facility in Russia that caused alerts and requests that those living nearby take Iodine tablets to counter radiation exposure in the atmosphere.

I’m wondering if this has anything to do with the nuclear-POWERED cruise missile Putin has rumbled about. It’s been done, or at least thought of, before.
Project Pluto
This was probably the most extreme weapon system seriously proposed in an era when nuclear extremism was a cultic obsession in the military-industrial complex.


If you want one of your own, you will have to settle for this nifty model kit from Fantastic Plastic:
437
lawhawk  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:17:44am

Trump Calls Out Hollywood for Being ‘Racist’ Against… ‘Republicans and Conservatives’

That’s not a thing. That’s not how any of this works.

But Trump’s racist and know nothing base doesn’t care. They listen to whatever Trump says and regurgitates it endlessly on a feedback loop.

438
DangerMan  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:19:39am

taking a break, having some lunch

there is wisdom and sanity in rice and beans

439
Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:20:04am

re: #436 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Seems to me Putin wants to do an extremely rapid military modernization program, but the money and the underlying technological infrastructure is seriously lacking…..and that’s producing disastrous results.

440
makeitstop  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:20:07am

re: #414 lawhawk

Russia’s military is having itself quite the week.

Continued explosions at facility in Siberia - and no one seems to know what actually happened to cause a radiation leak at another facility in Russia that caused alerts and requests that those living nearby take Iodine tablets to counter radiation exposure in the atmosphere.

Gotta wonder if any/all of these incidents are sabotage…

441
Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:21:16am

re: #440 makeitstop

Gotta wonder if any/all of these incidents are sabotage…

Heh, maybe we put something like Stuxnet in their military computers.

442
Kilroy was here  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:21:49am

re: #440 makeitstop

Gotta wonder if any/all of these incidents are sabotage…

I just bet on 30 years of no safety oversight and aging explosives.

443
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:23:45am

i think it would be a wonderful irony if trump, believing in his typical monumental hubris that his followers will happily support anything he is in favor of, pushes through serious gun control measures with almost all democrats and some republicans

and then finds that this screws him politically

444
Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:25:09am

Looks like there’s a pretty significant blackout affecting parts of the UK.

Major power failures have been reported across large areas of the UK, affecting homes and transport networks.

Power operators for the South East, Midlands, South West and Wales said there was a “major incident” affecting electricity.

UK Power Networks said the issue was caused by a “failure on National Grid’s network”.

Transport for London said the drop in power is affecting traffic lights, while many trains have been delayed.

Blackouts have also been reported in the North East.

Passengers at Newcastle Airport said the power cut out for around 15 minutes, but Heathrow, Gatwick and Luton airports said they had not been affected.

bbc.com

445
electrotek  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:25:24am

re: #443 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think it would be a wonderful irony if trump, believing in his typical monumental hubris that his followers will happily support anything he is in favor of, pushes through serious gun control measures with almost all democrats and some republicans

and then finds that this screws him politically

And then they will find someone crazier than Trump to endorse, I’m sure of it.

446
Barefoot Grin  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:25:55am

re: #441 Dr Lizardo

Heh, maybe we put something like Stuxnet in their military computers.

First thing I thought of, but didn’t want to sound all CT, heh heh.

447
Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:26:42am

re: #443 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think it would be a wonderful irony if trump, believing in his typical monumental hubris that his followers will happily support anything he is in favor of, pushes through serious gun control measures with almost all democrats and some republicans

and then finds that this screws him politically

Any gun control legislation that Trump signed into law would seriously hurt him with his base.

Like you said though, in his hubris, he’ll think that his supporters will gladly embrace it.

448
Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:29:10am

Regarding that blackout affecting parts of the UK, it’s from the Daily Mail, but it’s some pretty decent coverage of the ongoing situation.

dailymail.co.uk

449
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:29:20am

re: #436 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ah! Here it is:

9M730 Burevestnik The 9M730 Burevestnik (Russian: Буревестник; “Petrel”, NATO reporting name: SSC-X-9 Skyfall) is an experimental Russian nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed cruise missile and is claimed to have virtually unlimited range.

The Burevestnik is one of the six new Russian strategic weapons unveiled by Russian President Vladimir Putin on 1 March 2018.

The Russian defense industry began developing an intercontinental-range nuclear-powered cruise missile capable of penetrating any interceptor-based missile defense system. It is said to have unlimited range and ability to dodge missile defenses. The name of the weapon was chosen by the unusual route of a public vote. A major stage of trials of the cruise missile of the Burevestnik complex, the tests of the nuclear power unit, were successfully completed in January 2019.

450
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:34:02am

i assume this “your phone is infected” popup i keep getting when i click on a LGF posting link is just a virus i picked up and not an actual ad or something that everyone is getting

451
Belafon  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:34:50am

re: #449 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ah! Here it is:

By getting Trump to pull out of the nuclear treaty, the next president’s ability to respond to this with something like sanctions is severly limited.

452
gocart mozart  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:35:08am
453
cat-tikvah  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:35:19am

re: #415 The Pie Overlord!

FYI - Michael W. Twitty is also an MOT.
Kvelling.

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gocart mozart  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:39:23am
455
MsJ  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:39:53am

re: #448 Dr Lizardo

Regarding that blackout affecting parts of the UK, it’s from the Daily Mail, but it’s some pretty decent coverage of the ongoing situation.

dailymail.co.uk

Luckily, it’s cool there. Small favors, but sitting in a tube station with no AC when it’s 95f/33ish C would really suck.

456
Hecuba's daughter  Aug 9, 2019 • 10:45:08am

re: #450 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i assume this “your phone is infected” popup i keep getting when i click on a LGF posting link is just a virus i picked up and not an actual ad or something that everyone is getting

I get it occasionally — so I close Safari and reopen and then link looks ok.

457
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2019 • 11:02:50am

re: #387 Kilroy was here

ICE official on children left behind after Mississippi raids: We’re ‘not a social services agency’

thehill.com

And they were Just Following Orders

458
Old Liberal  Aug 9, 2019 • 11:05:57am

re: #429 Belafon

“Don’t travel to Japan. Those Pokemon parades are just a front to get you to play violent vidoe games.”

Like drumpkins are going to travel abroad

459
The Pie Overlord!  Aug 9, 2019 • 11:19:24am

re: #453 cat-tikvah

FYI - Michael W. Twitty is also an MOT.
Kvelling.

I have known that for years. :)

460
sagehen  Aug 9, 2019 • 11:21:17am

re: #453 cat-tikvah

FYI - Michael W. Twitty is also an MOT.
Kvelling.

He is indeed. Have you seen his Twitter


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