House Speaker Nancy Pelosi quoted founding father Benjamin Franklin today in her speech announcing the beginning of an official impeachment inquiry against President Trump. #Monologue #Impeachment #Colbert
Another example of the White House doctoring transcripts.
Nothing they put out tomorrow can be trusted. https://t.co/ioeD9pDuKB— Zac Petkanas (@Zac_Petkanas) September 25, 2019
So this is how I imagine the White House is tonight:
The Second Coming
BY WILLIAM BUTLER YEATS
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Holy shit how is this reality?
Wait, didn’t Giuliani complain about Michael Cohen recording conversations and now Giuliani is admitting to recording conversations with the State Department ? pic.twitter.com/C1eLJghxft
— Roland Scahill (@rolandscahill) September 25, 2019
OMG. Everyone is cracking up on @FoxNews tonight. Now @RudyGiuliani is throwing @SecPompeo under the bus again, holding up his cell phone as evidence that he was ordered to do whatever he did. Fun and weird to watch.
— Karen Piper (@PiperK) September 25, 2019
Rudy Giuliani seems to be some kind of utterly insane, prototype mutant smallpox blanket that just spreads fuckery infused criminal culpability. https://t.co/PhUzm0YzUC
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) September 25, 2019
re: #4 goddamnedfrank
Holy shit how is this reality?
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WH: “Alright, so we’re all in agreement, we throw Rudy under the bus and let him take all the heat for this?”
Staffer: “Uh, guys, you better take a look at this.”
Rudy: *On Faux* “I’VE GOT RECEIPTS!!!”
WH: “FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF…”
re: #4 goddamnedfrank
Holy shit how is this reality?
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Well, Frank, it’s reality V65.147, which has a release date of May 36, 3247.
This is the Beta version.
re: #3 austin_blue
That, but the version written by Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.
Congrats to Trump on finally being fucked by a woman his own age https://t.co/yIZHfLHV3v
— Jess Dweck (@TheDweck) September 25, 2019
re: #7 jaunte
That, but the version written by Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.
Um, no. It appears it was written by Rudy Giuliani in a peyote-fueled fever dream while also drunk on mezcal after reading Carlos Castaneda.
Unfortunately for the White House, this seems to be his standard state of consciousness in his everyday persona. It’s a remarkable show of will, but disastrous for his Don, err…President.
UPDATE: @PGE4Me confirms power shutoff for approximately 1,000 customers at around 2AM Wednesday for west side of Caslistoga to the Napa Co. line & north of Lake Berryessa https://t.co/ctW08eWaAP
— KTVU (@KTVU) September 25, 2019
#PSPS alert for portions of Butte, Napa, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sonoma, & Yuba counties: For safety, we will begin proactively turning off power to about 48,200 customers as early as 2:30AM, Weds. Windy weather conditions may last until 12PM, Weds. https://t.co/2CZX1Npn6t pic.twitter.com/jT8LfVGF6r
— PG&E (@PGE4Me) September 25, 2019
The temps hit almost 102F with 18% humidity today. This is our fire season reality now.
Never seen a profile that I was less surprised to find “libertarian” in
— The Mouth Down South Jimmy Cunnilingus (@Detroit_Dongs) September 25, 2019
Pullin some ‘G’s!
A @usairforce demonstration team pilot and commander flies the F-35A Lightning II during the Oregon International Airshow in McMinnville, Ore. #KnowYourMil pic.twitter.com/fgOrJIuaoF— U.S. Dept of Defense (@DeptofDefense) September 24, 2019
re: #12 Dread Pirate
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It’s still an extraordinarilly overpriced single-engined piece of shit that is one bird strike away from becoming a large smoking hole off the end of the runway.
re: #3 austin_blue
So this is how I imagine the White House is tonight:
The Second Coming
BY WILLIAM BUTLER YEATS
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
I would have gone with
Ozymandias
by Percy Bysshe Shelley
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!’
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
I was a teenager the last time an Impeachment Inquiry went down. An Impeachment Inquiry has gone down only four times in 231 years. May we live in interesting times.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 25, 2019
Okay, time for bed. Tomorrow should be epic!
This is my favorite infrastructure week evah.
re: #14 sagehen
I would have gone with
Ozymandias
by Percy Bysshe ShelleyI met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!’
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Nah, that is a hoped for result, and should be. The relevant Yeats line is “the center cannot hold”. And it won’t. The house of cards is beginning to collapse. Once it starts, there is no return. The rough beast will slouch toward Washington and consume it’s prey.
It is inevitable.
re: #13 austin_blue
It’s still an extraordinarilly overpriced single-engined piece of shit that is one bird strike away from becoming a large smoking hole off the end of the runway.
And that’s it’s positives…
re: #17 austin_blue
Nah, that is a hoped for result, and should be. The relevant Yeats line is “the center cannot hold”. And it won’t. The house of cards is beginning to collapse. Once it starts, there is no return. The rough beast will slouch toward Washington and consume it’s prey.
It is inevitable.
We’re seeing a foretaste of that when Chuck Todd and Wolf Blitzer are starting to call out the GOP on their bullshit instead of their usual schtick.
They smell blood in the water.
Hi.
Local news update: The arborist will be here in the morning to remove the dead portion of our double elm tree.
How’s your infrastructure week going?
re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Hi.
Local news update: The arborist will be here in the morning to remove the dead portion of our double elm tree.
How’s your infrastructure week going?
I’m just glad it’s finally over.
*whisperwhisper*
IT’S ONLY TUESDAY?!
re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Hi.
Local news update: The arborist will be here in the morning to remove the dead portion of our double elm tree.
How’s your infrastructure week going?
I’ve been sweeping up acorns from the patio every 48 hours. The squirrels and 25 year old volunteer oak tree on the edge of my neighbors yard have gone literally nuts this year.
re: #8 Targetpractice
And as noted in that thread, Stormy Daniels played a large part in this whole mess, as the payments to her led to the FBI raid on Michael Cohen.
re: #15 teleskiguy
Not counting federal judges, this will be my third presidential impeachment inquiry. I believe there have only been four (Andrew Johnson being the other).
Damn, what is it about conservatives doing corrupt things? (Bill Clinton is not a conservative, but the douchecanoes who voted for impeachment were.)
re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Four. Johnson. Nixon. Clinton. Trump.
May we live in interesting times. For fuck’s sake. Goddamnit!
re: #14 sagehen
I would have gone with
Ozymandias
by Percy Bysshe ShelleyI met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!’
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
I like Emily Dickenson:
I do not like the man who squanders life for fame; give me the man who living makes a name.
Trump confidant Roger Stone loses bid to get evidence tossed (American Broadcasting Company)
The hits keep coming for Trumpworld.
A judge has denied Trump confidant Roger Stone’s efforts to suppress evidence in the case against him, according to a court opinion made public Tuesday.
Stone is one of a half dozen aides and advisers to President Donald Trump who were charged as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. He is accused of lying to Congress, witness tampering and obstructing a congressional proceeding, and is set to stand trial in November in Washington’s federal court.
Stone had asked a judge to throw out the evidence seized from 18 FBI search warrants.
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Justin Amash (I-Mich) joined the calls for impeachment leading up to Nancy Pelosi pulling the trigger today.
ABC also has a different article not related to Trump.
Three sailors stationed aboard USS George HW Bush (CVN-77) committed suicide last week. None occurred on the ship. The ship is currently in drydock in Norfolk.
re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🎃
ABC also has a different article not related to Trump.
Three sailors stationed aboard USS George HW Bush (CVN-77) committed suicide last week. None occurred on the ship. The ship is currently in drydock in Norfolk.
Out of a group of 6000 crew that’s probably not that statistically unusual.
The cruelty still being the point, from Juanita Jean’s:
And while we’re watching the shiny impeachment announcement, Trump’s minions are rushing to finalize a change to Department of Agriculture rules that will kick 500,000 poor kids off of school lunch programs. That’s right, Trump says the half a million poor kids are apparently no longer poor enough.
I certainly wish the Congress would hurry up.
re: #31 Dread Pirate
Out of a group of 6000 crew that’s probably not that statistically unusual.
If you had three every week, that would be 156 a year.
The CDC reports the rate has climbed significantly for the general population, reaching 13.0 per 100,000.
Extrapolating the 156 to those numbers, that would be 156*16.67 (approx), or 2,600 a year per 100,000 sailors.
Military and veteran suicides have been significantly higher than the national average for some time, and no one really has a good explanation why that might be yet.
I imagine the US Navy will be looking into this. The men involved are not related by division, rating, or work. It could be merely a coincidence, or it might be something else. I imagine NCIS will be looking into it to see if something connects them that is not readily apparent.
re: #31 Dread Pirate
Moreover, the compliment of 6,000 on an aircraft carrier is when the ship’s airwing is aboard and the ship is deployed at full strength.
In drydock there is no airwing, and much of the ship’s company is reduced from full strength, either sent to military schools or transferred to other commands.
re: #31 Dread Pirate
Out of a group of 6000 crew that’s probably not that statistically unusual.
With no air wing aboard the crew is around 3,500. Six months into it’s two year dry-dock period I would expect the crew to be significantly less than that. The US suicide rate for males is ~21 per 100,000, annually.
So, 3 per 3,500 in a year would be a serious statistical anomaly. In a week it’s a crisis
re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🎃
I calculated using only males. While the crew is coed, the male-female ratio is drastically below that in the civilian population
re: #11 goddamnedfrank
Christian libertarian logic: “Not even being provocative but if you think Greta Thunberg has the maturity to guide global policy-making then you cannot object to Jeffrey Epstein paying 16-year-olds for sex.”
So if she is old enough to speak publicly, she is old enough to be raped?
re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🎃
And as noted in that thread, Stormy Daniels played a large part in this whole mess, as the payments to her led to the FBI raid on Michael Cohen.
What consenting adults do for fun in their spare time is none of our business, but this particular dalliance went beyond that, it involved a violation of campaign finance law.
Only a Trump could be dumb and arrogant enough to let the two get intertwined.
RIP Robert Hunter, lyricist for the Grateful Dead and solo artist
So many songs of his that I love, but this is still my fave;
Gone are the days when the ox fall down,
Take up the yoke and plow the fields around.
Gone are the days when the ladies said’ “Please,
Gentle Jack Jones won’t you come to me.”
Brown-eyed women and red grenadine,
The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean.
Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down,
And it looks like the old man’s getting on….
re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So if she is old enough to speak publicly, she is old enough to be raped?
That’s not how any of this works.
Lolbetarians have a real problem with that whole “age” thing.
re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So if she is old enough to speak publicly, she is old enough to be raped?
Not just Lolbetarian, but Christian too. Christian and libertarian values have always included little girls in their sexcapades, just another reason why I couldn’t be a Christian.
re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So if she is old enough to speak publicly, she is old enough to be raped?
Not for nothing, but I kind of wish you’d have quoted that tweet in a way that didn’t make it seem like I’m the one who said it.
This isn’t just about you, it’s a gripe I have with SEVERAL people here who I wish were a lot better at making clear exactly which person’s words they are responding to.
This moment of awkward honestly was brought to you by WHISKY!
re: #40 Anymouse 🌹🎃
That’s not how any of this works.
Lolbetarians have a real problem with that whole “age” thing.
If we were hatched out as fully-formed adults, ready to be fitted with a basic education chip and sent out into the world to realize our potential as individuals, then the whole Randian/Libertarian approach would make some sense.
As it is, we are born fully dependent and remain inter-dependent to a degree for the rest of our lives.
re: #42 goddamnedfrank
This isn’t just about you, it’s a gripe I have with SEVERAL people here who I wish were a lot better at making clear exactly which person’s words they are responding to.
HappyWarrior, I’m fuckin’ looking at you bud.
re: #42 goddamnedfrank
Yeah, that didn’t look so good the way it was posted.
I’ll break my Twitter rule and post the original Christian Libertarian hot take.
Not even being provocative but if you think Greta Thunberg has the maturity to guide global policy-making then you cannot object to Jeffrey Epstein paying 16-year-olds for sex.
— Justin Murphy (@jmrphy) September 25, 2019
re: #42 goddamnedfrank
Not for nothing, but I kind of wish you’d have quoted that tweet in a way that didn’t make it seem like I’m the one who said it.
This isn’t just about you, it’s a gripe I have with SEVERAL people here who I wish were a lot better at making clear exactly which person’s words they are responding to.
This moment of awkward honestly was brought to you by WHISKY!
fixed that in edit
re: #42 goddamnedfrank
Not for nothing, but I kind of wish you’d have quoted that tweet in a way that didn’t make it seem like I’m the one who said it.
This isn’t just about you, it’s a gripe I have with SEVERAL people here who I wish were a lot better at making clear exactly which person’s words they are responding to.
This moment of awkward honestly was brought to you by WHISKY!
Hell, I thought you had lost your freakin’ mind.
How anti-vaxxers target grieving moms and turn them into crusaders (NBC)
Fifteen miles west of Minneapolis, a billboard looms over a field of tall grass beside Highway 55. The sign features a photo of Evee Clobes, a baby girl with sparkling eyes, flushed cheeks and an expression frozen in wonder. Next to her face are the words, “HEALTHY BABIES DON’T JUST DIE.” The web address of a group opposed to mandatory vaccinations is at the bottom.
Since her death in March, Evee has served as a literal poster child for the anti-vaccination movement. Her face and chunky legs — adorned with Band-Aids from her shots — are featured on anti-vaccination websites and billboards. The story of her death is told at protests, read aloud at statehouses, and offered up by her mother and other activists as proof of the horror vaccines can bring.
Evee’s story, as her mother Catelin Clobes tells it, is of a healthy 6-month-old who died 36 hours after a checkup where she got several vaccinations. Clobes and an army of online activists now say the vaccines caused Evee’s death. That belief, and Clobes’ willingness to make Evee part of a national media campaign, have turned the grieving mom into a rising star in the anti-vaccination world. Her Facebook posts draw hundreds of thousands of views, and multiple fundraisers set up by anti-vaccination activists on her behalf have raised tens of thousands of dollars. She has become a champion of other anti-vaccination parents around the country.
But there’s a problem with the story at the heart of this crusade, and with Clobes’ new role as an anti-vaccine heroine. Her local medical examiner has ruled that the evidence — collected in an autopsy and by first responders — shows Evee accidentally suffocated while co-sleeping with her mother.
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re: #45 Anymouse 🌹🎃
That’s such a nonsensical, disgusting argument. Twitter should take it down. It’s advocating pedophilia.
🥇in mental gymnastics from a pedophile apologist
— hope davis stan account (@jakoblauryn) September 25, 2019
re: #49 Patricia Kayden
in mental gymnastics from a pedophile apologist
It is as much defending pedophilia as it is defending what they see as the right of “alpha males” (i.e., rich white guys) to do whatever they please with impunity
re: #49 Patricia Kayden
That’s such a nonsensical, disgusting argument. Twitter should take it down. It’s advocating pedophilia.
Twitter is run by libertarians. I suppose it could be reported, but I doubt they’ll do anything.
re: #52 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
It’s the typical Twitter-literati, a dude-bro whose intelligence is so vast that it can’t see its own shitheadery.
At the moment, the tweet has 920 likes. Lots of lolbertarians there.
Dems Worry Over Court Appointee’s Background
Lawrence VanDyke is President Donald Trump’s pick for a seat on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Conservatives love it; Democrats? Not so much.
[…]
Some of those views include writings that espouse creationism being part of school textbooks, strong opinions on local control of public lands and a stint with a non-profit that critics have called anti-LGBTQ.
See:
Repost: A Creationist for the 9th Circuit Court? A Review of Lawrence VanDyke
re: #3 austin_blue
More like “slouches toward Burger King,” but otherwise spot on.
America, 2019 (and why Trump is President):
Reader Opinion: Theory of Evolution
There seems to be confusion on what a theory is. The theory of evolution does not make the theory of evolution a fact. All the existing collateral of what we know as fact that supports the theory of evolution does not make the theory of evolution a fact. It remains a theory until someone mathematically proves the theory, that is when it becomes a fact, in other words a Theorem.
There are all sorts of theories on different aspects of our Universe. […]
It is great to teach theories. But to teach them as fact is wrong, no matter how old the theory or how much collateral support there is for the theory.
It is not so great to limit the teaching of theories based on personal belief. Personally, I don’t think mankind will mathematically prove the theory of evolution or the theory of creationism. But if we are going to teach one we should also be teaching the other.
Jim McBreen
Brainerd
Traitor traitor, burning bright,
In the cable news of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy wordful dysentery?
re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
America, 2019 (and why Trump is President):
Wholly shite. What is that word salad?
re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Wholly shite. What is that word salad?
This is what happens when we stop teaching school kids what science is and just prepare them to do well on standardized science exams in order to guarantee continued funding.
From Reddit’s /r/vaxxhappened (making fun of anti-vaxxers). Circular reasoning at its finest.
“And guess what’s famous for causing epilepsy….[sic] vaccines!!
And epilepsy causes…you guessed it!** Autistic symptoms [Twitter hashtags omitted with prejudice]
The person is claiming vaccinations are “abelism.”
My wife says she observes no “autistic symptoms” in me, though I suppose that would be anecdotal.
re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
You are correct.
re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🎃
From Reddit’s /r/vaxxhappened (making fun of anti-vaxxers). Circular reasoning at its finest.
The person is claiming vaccinations are “abelism.”
My wife says she observes no “autistic symptoms” in me, though I suppose that would be anecdotal.
as opposed to “cainism”?
it is also there to protect children who cannot be vaccinated due to other conditions and help provide them with a certain herd immunity
in the end, anti-vax is an expression of egocentric individualism
re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
as opposed to “cainism”?
it is also there to protect children who cannot be vaccinated due to other conditions and help provide them with a certain herd immunity
in the end, anti-vax is an expression of egocentric individualism
It also makes for one hell of a grift if you’re good at it.
Social media sites like Facebook and Twitter have claimed they would shut down such groups, but do not. There’s money to be made.
re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🎃
It also makes for one hell of a grift if you’re good at it.
Social media sites like Facebook and Twitter have claimed they would shut down such groups, but do not. There’s money to be made.
and it is often hard to tell the grifters from the moonbats who really believe what they are preaching.
re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and it is often hard to tell the grifters from the moonbats who really believe what they are preaching.
As far as social media sites, such groups violate their terms of service. It doesn’t matter if a person running a Facebook group is making money off it or not.
Anti-vaxxers more and more are also leveraging other people’s problems (such as a baby dead from SIDS) and hijacking the photographs and any information they can find to promote their religion.
In the meantime, The Philippines has declared a polio outbreak and emergency.
who.int
re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🎃
As far as social media sites, such groups violate their terms of service. It doesn’t matter if a person running a Facebook group is making money off it or not.
Facebook is making money off it and that is what they base their decisions on…
re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Facebook is making money off it and that is what they base their decisions on…
Back in February Rep. Adam Schiff went after Facebook and Google for their massive antivax groups. Both companies said they would crack down on such content.
I just did a search on Google for “vaccine injury” and on the first page the Websites are all news or science organisations debunking such claims.
re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Thanks for that…..
re: #22 Dread Pirate
I’ve been sweeping up acorns from the patio every 48 hours. The squirrels and 25 year old volunteer oak tree on the edge of my neighbors yard have gone literally nuts this year.
We have four black walnut trees on our property and this is a banner year for walnuts. It happens about every three years. We’re taking hundreds of pounds of tennis ball size walnuts.
Last time, the neighbor found out why you don’t keep glass topped patio tables in your yard (the falling walnuts broke it) or why some metal roofing is a bad idea. I think they cut their BW tree down because of that.
re: #22 Dread Pirate
I’ve been sweeping up acorns from the patio every 48 hours. The squirrels and 25 year old volunteer oak tree on the edge of my neighbors yard have gone literally nuts this year.
The mast is in full swing here. I have over 100 live oaks on my lot.
The deck is currently lost and I need combat gear on to go outside. The squirrels are even spurning the peanuts I offer.
I have to get the blower out 2x a day right now.
Lincoln and Kennedy were both LITERALLY hunted and gunned down, Dumbass-In-Chief…
— Disloyal Arch (@Arch_LGF) September 25, 2019
Johnson-supporting Brexiteers really are like Trumpers:
Johnson faces political humiliation, but that will play well with some voters
[…]
There’s been much talk in recent weeks about Johnson’s plans for a people vs parliament election. The idea is the Conservatives would run on an anti-establishment ticket - pitching their party as the radical choice that is actually listening to what voters want. They would depict Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour - alongside the Liberal Democrats and SNP - as ignoring the will of the people.
The supreme court judgment could play into this narrative. Anything that adds to the view that Johnson is the prime minister committed to delivering Brexit at whatever cost is something that can be used to the Tories’ advantage. The voters Johnson and Cummings are pitching to in any snap poll are different to those who gave David Cameron his majority in 2015. The Tories this time hope to pick up seats in traditional Labour heartlands that voted heavily to leave - from the Midlands and north to Wales. Current polling has proved encouraging to government figures that their plan is working. “It’s very messy but I am getting a lot of supportive messages from constituents,” says one Conservative MP of the current political chaos.
[…]
Jerry has been declared post-tropical. Nonetheless, it still has tropical storm force winds. A tropical storm warning is in effect for Bermuda and the storm is expected to strike there later today.
All the Rudy clips are amaze.
CL’d
re: #293 uriel
Rudi is loosing it. I’m not sure he’ll make it though the week. Sounds like he’s been doing a whole lot of yelling lately, as well.
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Rudy is sweating up a storm. I am pretty sure his PR people keep telling him not to wipe sweat off your head with a sodden tissue.
Rudy tells us he has “5 Ukrainians” who BEGGED for an investigation…..
Rudy gets one of the rare Faux News; “Rudy, Rudy, we are out of time. RUDY! We are out of time.”
re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🎃
I’m off to bed. Bye y’all.
almost afternoon nap time here. either that or more coffee, and I am just about at my limit
You’re early morning moment of unintentional comedy:
Steve Doocy: “No president in American history has been better prepared for an impeachment inquiry than Donald Trump.” pic.twitter.com/5gPavJNfyo
— Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) September 25, 2019
The guy whose own lawyers would not let him sit down with Mueller and insisted that doing so would constitute a “perjury trap.”
re: #80 Dave In Austin
Robert Hunter’s lyrics were timeless stories that transported the listener to another time and place. The music was the vehicle that brought us there. The uncanny combination of those two worlds made for an overall experience that was beyond just the music by itself
I always dug bands that had lyricists who did nothing but contribute the words, Keith Reid for Procol Harum, Peter Brown with Cream, Peter Sinfield with King Crimson, Bernie Taupin & Elton John, etc…
Morning.
It’s launch day! Three space travelers, including @Astro_Jessica 🇺🇸, cosmonaut Oleg Skripochka 🇷🇺 & spaceflight participant Hazzaa Ali Almansoori 🇦🇪, are set to leave Earth for a journey to the @Space_Station. Here’s how to watch starting at 9am ET: https://t.co/gOxX8ZucqK pic.twitter.com/6WPuqHBHWM
— NASA (@NASA) September 25, 2019
Senator “Cottonmouth” Kennedy currently lying on MSNBC on Mornin’ Joe.
— The Viking (@TheViking2017) September 25, 2019
They’re still trying to sell this upcoming “transcript.”
Kennedy also claiming we need to get to the bottom of “these allegations against the Bidens.”
I know the answer is corruption, but how many levels of corruption would that take? How many crimes would that take to happen?
— Jared Yates Sexton (@JYSexton) September 25, 2019
Kennedy refuses to address the involvement of Giuliani. He has no answer except to say Giuliani is crazy.
re: #83 jaunte
They’re still trying to sell this upcoming “transcript.”
Kennedy also claiming we need to get to the bottom of “these allegations against the Bidens.”
spin: the allegations against the Bidens are so extreme that the Dems have no choice but to call for impeachment as a distraction
re: #85 jaunte
Kennedy refuses to address the involvement of Giuliani. He has no answer except to say Giuliani is crazy.
#FreeRangeChicken New Hashtag. I about spewed my coffee..
This should go without saying, but there is no such thing as a private emissary from the president of the United States to a foreign government.
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) September 25, 2019
re: #89 jaunte
This should go without saying, but there is no such thing as a private emissary from the president of the United States to a foreign government.
Trump must assume that there is such a person to go smooth out the business end of things before he shows up in AF1
scarborough and everyone else keep laughing with john neeley kennedy, and lobbing him softballs.
willie giest is asking him real questions (that kennedy isn’t answering), and NOT laughing.— fooler initiative (@metroadlib) September 25, 2019
Kennedy keeps going back and repeating the phrase “allegations against Biden’s son.”
Like a good little propagandist.
re: #89 jaunte
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The Mafia job for this is called a “Fixer.”
We have a Mobster Family in the White House.
re: #70 MsJ
If those are old trees you could be sitting on a gold mine.
re: #72 Disloyal Archangel
Lincoln and Kennedy were both LITERALLY hunted and gunned down, Dumbass-In-Chief…
As were James Garfield and William McKinley.
Reagan was shot and wounded, Truman was shot at but not injured (his bodyguard died shielding him). The guy who tried to shoot FDR missed (killed the Mayor of Chicago).
I know that projection is pretty much a full-time activity for “you’re the puppet” Trump, but has he really conducted a months-long presidency-jeopardizing campaign on the premise that someone else’s son got rich on the basis of the family name and shady overseas deals?
— Jacob T. Levy (@jtlevy) September 25, 2019
re: #95 sagehen
As were James Garfield and William McKinley.
Reagan was shot and wounded, Truman was shot at but not injured (his bodyguard died shielding him). The guy who tried to shoot FDR missed (killed the Mayor of Chicago).
And Gerald Ford. Shot at twice, IIRC
re: #97 Jay C
And Gerald Ford. Shot at twice, IIRC
Ford was the only president who had women try to assassinate him…
I’m just waiting for the next Trump rally where he reads a redacted transcript to the audience and the MAGATs chant “Amen” like they were in church…
re: #99 Joe Bacon 🌹
I’m just waiting for the next Trump rally where he reads a redacted transcript to the audience and the MAGATs chant “Amen” like they were in church…
And the Trump spake, saying “Thou shalt render unto us all the dirty details you have on the house of Biden, for which you will in exchange receive funds earmarked for keeping the Hordes of Rus’ at bay!”
This is so important. These lawless, stupid assclowns think they can negotiate turning over something which by law, they are required to turn over in the first place. No negotiation required. It’s the f****** law people. https://t.co/O2xvwePIVe
— Rena Dracarys RF 香港 (@RenaRF) September 25, 2019
- State Department coordinated Giuliani’s trips to Ukraine so Pompeo knew.
- Trump ordered Mnuchin to withhold the funds.
- Pence talked to Zelensky in great detail about funds & Trump’s decision on latest aid, so likely knew. https://t.co/zqgTwohMgf— MiddleAmericaMS (@MiddleAmericaMS) September 25, 2019
Don’t let any Trump surrogate try to claim Giuliani was doing this on his own.
Oh, here is Don Jr, who we know is not involved in politics, in March of this year calling for the removal of the US Ambassador to Ukraine. Why would the EVP of Trump Org (who is the President btw?) care about this? https://t.co/ax2A4ZzURX
— Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) September 25, 2019
re: #94 plansbandc
If those are old trees you could be sitting on a gold mine.
Very old trees. Alas, they are on the easement which belongs to the city.
And yes, they would be worth tens of thousands of dollars. Three trees that I do not think I could touch fingers if I gave them a hug.
I actually wanted to cut down one of them so we could do a cutout allowing us to put in a driveway extension to pull out onto the side street instead of backing out onto the main road. I don’t think the city will allow it.
And they keep planting other trees about 20’ from the black walnuts that continuously die out. Two pear trees, this last one has like one live branch. We babied that bad boy too (just like the last). We cannot get other trees to take. We’ve planted several in our backyard, too…and no go. We had a giant pine tree that fell down a few years ago. Since then, nothing grows (trees, at least…the plants all are fine). We’ve planted trees with 2” trunks and this last one (which is still mostly alive) cost $700 and is about 6” across. Nothing thrives and all, thus far, have eventually died.
And my neighbor has a fetish about cutting trees down. She has repeatedly asked me to cut down some trees that border our properties. And every time I ask her if the tree is healthy, I will split the cost of evaluating it with her, etc. And not one evaluation came back that the trees had to come down.
re: #104 Joe Bacon 🌹
There has to be a German word for ‘darkly accurate.’
Remember folks, even though we’ve had multiple Friday Afternoon toilet flushes this week it’s still only Wednesday!
The saving grace in all this is the utterly fucking ham-fisted way team Trump went about trying to extort Ukraine.
Rudy is either lying, is confessing to a criminal conspiracy to receive classified information without authorization, or is admitting the president let his personal defense lawyer be read the transcript before anyone else. https://t.co/AZdvPdNTqn
— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) September 25, 2019
Trump to meet Ukraine president after impeachment inquiry announcement | Via Guardian https://t.co/SpNWl0DSf6
— SafetyPin-Daily (@SafetyPinDaily) September 25, 2019
Man in self-created hole plans to dig deeper by leaning on his own habits of coercion.
Oh it’s the end days for real https://t.co/w38tI87z9T
— Yo, proletariat! (@thewayoftheid) September 25, 2019
I’m glad CNN got a source for this pic.twitter.com/0bJCMOBMMg
— Talal Ansari (@TalalNAnsari) September 25, 2019
When reached for comment, a State Department spokesperson said, “Mr. @RudyGiuliani is a private citizen and acts in a personal capacity as a lawyer for President Trump. He does not speak on behalf of the U.S. Government.”
https://t.co/9K7revBvnz— Khary Penebaker, Fx (@kharyp) September 25, 2019
It’s not going to work, Pompeo.
re: #92 jaunte
Kennedy keeps going back and repeating the phrase “allegations against Biden’s son.”
Like a good little propagandist.
That’s what he’s been doing the last few days. It’s a disgrace that Joe/Mika had him on knowing what he’d say.
Also, earlier, someone said the Dems would focus narrowly on the Ukraine scandal as national security threat and not on prior crimes of the Trump cabal. But they have to expand into obstruction at some point or else the narrative that “the Dems couldn’t find anything the first time so their trying again” will take hold (and the media can be counted on to help spread this message).
It means that the @nytimes continues to be pathetic. https://t.co/11OuT2H1R6
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) September 25, 2019
re: #83 jaunte
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They’re still trying to sell this upcoming “transcript.”
Kennedy also claiming we need to get to the bottom of “these allegations against the Bidens.”
Any legit “allegations against the Bidens” should be given to the FBI to investigate. There is no excuse for involving a corrupt foreign government.
re: #116 jaunte
In contrast, here’s the Washington Post:
Front page of The Washington Post tomorrow pic.twitter.com/4QGZUzFgbm
— ɹǝʇǝԀ Planamente (@plana_journ) September 25, 2019
“Boris Johnson to address MPs as minister brands parliament ‘dead’ with ‘no moral right to sit’”
Says unelected dumdum to actual elected officials.
Dude. Trump ADMITTED he did it. He ADMITTED it.
I know being a partisan hack means never having to think critically, but this is just sad. https://t.co/0TLMW7w54a— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) September 25, 2019
Literal both-siderism.
Freaking literally.— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) September 25, 2019
Democrats in array. Goodnight.
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) September 25, 2019
Not to mention trump’s in violation of the law to turn over info to Congress.
So much lawlessness and people like goat f**ker Erickson could not possibly care less about.
But Obama wore a tan suit and put mustard on a burger.
Right wingers are disgusting. #complicittraitors— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) September 25, 2019
re: #121 MsJ
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“Both sides” media combined with neo-Libertarianism ideology is the recipe for modern day Fascism. The complete absence of responsibility at major media outlets and the plutocratic Capitalist elite is at the core of our march towards authoritarianism.
No one with $$$ means or mass media ownership is responsible for anything… except 100% loyalty to a particular tribe or family.
re: #22 Dread Pirate
I’ve been sweeping up acorns from the patio every 48 hours. The squirrels and 25 year old volunteer oak tree on the edge of my neighbors yard have gone literally nuts this year.
We had a few last year, this year is a bust, though.
There’s no world in which sending your personal attorney to demand a foreign investigation into a political rival is a legitimate exercise in presidential power. https://t.co/BvJ67MMWCY
— Jonathan Chait (@jonathanchait) September 25, 2019
re: #125 jeffreyw
We had a few last year, this year is a bust, though.
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My husband is having a fit because I keep telling him I want to put them in the yard for the squirrels this winter.
How many trailers full did you have? I would say we usually have easily 6-10x that trailer full in a big year (like this year).
T-3 minutes
re: #114 jaunte
When reached for comment, a State Department spokesperson said, “Mr. Rudy Giuliani is a private citizen and acts in a personal capacity as a lawyer for President Trump. He does not speak on behalf of the U.S. Government.”
If a sitting President cannot be prosecuted for his crimes, why does he need standing counsel?
Transcript of Trump’s call with Ukrainian president shows him offering U.S. assistance for Biden investigation https://t.co/DzRYh3hShs
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) September 25, 2019
The call begins with Trump congratulating Zelensky on his election victory, but quickly devolves into the president pressing for an investigation of his political rivals and endorsing an apparent conspiracy theory. He seems to suggest Hillary Clinton’s private email server is in Ukraine and asserts that special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation started with that country.
“I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it,” Trump says, according to the transcript.
He adds later: “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it. … It sounds horrible to me.”
Zelensky replied that “my candidate” for the prosecutor job “will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue.”
At the outset of the call, Trump also asks for Ukraine’s help in finding the location of the Democratic National Committee server that U.S. officials say was hacked by Russian intelligence in the run-up to the 2016 election.
“The server, they say Ukraine has it,” Trump says according to the transcript. “I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it.”
The transcript, in keeping with White House practice, is a memorandum of a telephone conversation and is not a verbatim account of the conversation. The text reflects the notes and memories of officials in the Situation Room. A disclaimer in the transcript warns that a number of factors “can affect the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent.”
Every single one of those doubters like Sarah Kendzior that went as far as saying Pelosi was bribed and working to protect Pres. Trump owe Nancy Pelosi an apology.
— 𝔾𝕦𝕤 (@Gus_802) September 24, 2019
When Pelosi names the members of the special committee, Twitter will spend a week whining that it doesn’t include AOC.
— Peter M. Sullivan (@CitizenSullivan) September 25, 2019
NM will set its own fuel economy and pollution standards for cars, pickup trucks and SUVs in a break with federal authorities, Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham announced Tuesday. #nmpol #nmleghttps://t.co/xrEvWgg6wY
— Center for Civic Policy (@ClearlyNM) September 25, 2019
re: #120 jaunte
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Not turning over the complaint is an impeachable in and of itself.
re: #132 MsJ
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Can they do that?
California has special permission within the text of the Environmental Protection Act to set their own stricter limits than the rest of the country; how does NM think they have such authority?
re: #134 sagehen
Can they do that?
California has special permission within the text of the Environmental Protection Act to set their own stricter limits than the rest of the country; how does NM think they have such authority?
Beats me. I just found it fascinating.
Imagine, if you will, that trump thought what he released in this “transcript” helped him in some way.
It’s shocking how absolutely stupid these people are (thank god!)…I mean stupid beyond all damn recognition.
re: #130 MsJ
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And that’s supposed to clear him?
It reads like he did exactly what he’s being accused of.
re: #137 makeitstop
And that’s supposed to clear him?
It reads like he did exactly what he’s being accused of.
Noah is a boot-licking republican.
“Nice aid you’ve got there…” https://t.co/8BGzkDp77U
— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) September 25, 2019
Other people seem to be asking the same question.
How the fuck did Trump think this transcript was going to help him???
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) September 25, 2019
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America, 2019.
The U.S. military has warned service members about the potential for a mass shooter at screenings of the Warner Bros. film Joker, which has sparked wide concerns from, among others, the families of those killed during the 2012 mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado.
The U.S. Army confirmed on Tuesday that the warning was widely distributed after social media posts related to extremists classified as “incels,” were uncovered by intelligence officials at the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
In a September 18th email, service members were instructed to remain aware of their surroundings and “identify two escape routes” when entering theaters. In the event of a shooting, they were instructed to “run, hide, fight.”
“Run if you can,” the safety notice said. “If you’re stuck, hide (also known as ‘sheltering in place’), and stay quiet. If a shooter finds you, fight with whatever you can.”
re: #140 The Pie Overlord!
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The White House releases transcript in which @realDonaldTrump talks about sending Giuliani to the Ukraine and asks that government to investigate Biden. pic.twitter.com/SKtftYJQY0
— Brian J. Karem (@BrianKarem) September 25, 2019
This man is even more stupid than I’d imagined.
Here’s the transcript. And it’s pretty explicit. Trump asks for a “favor” after noting how good the US has been to Ukraine. He then asks Zelenskyy to investigate Biden and to work with AG Barr and Giuliani on the matter. https://t.co/8zBTCv9pEx
— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) September 25, 2019
There’s nothing here that exonerates Trump. It implicates everyone in the room. It implicates AG Barr for burying this. It implicates Rudy for his role in the whole affair, and most of all, it shows that Trump must be removed from office and prosecuted for federal felonies.
This cannot be allowed to stand.
And now imagine if this isn’t even the entire call - that they left out the really naughty bits?
Somehow, Trump thinks this exonerates him? To his know nothing reactionary boot lickers, yeah, they’ll believe it because they operate like a cult - and facts, logic, or reasoning are beyond them.
re: #139 makeitstop
Because he thinks other people - mostly his base - lack the capacity for rational thought and don’t care about facts and logic and instead feel like Trump is right when he says whatever he does?
Fuck their feelings and opinions. The fact is Trump broke any number of laws and must be impeached and removed from office.
re: #145 lawhawk
Somehow, Trump thinks this exonerates him? To his know nothing reactionary boot lickers, yeah, they’ll believe it because they operate like a cult - and facts, logic, or reasoning are beyond them.
Will the Democrats apologize after seeing what was said on the call with the Ukrainian President? They should, a perfect call - got them by surprise!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 25, 2019
re: #134 sagehen
Can they do that?
California has special permission within the text of the Environmental Protection Act to set their own stricter limits than the rest of the country; how does NM think they have such authority?
The law allows any state to set emissions standards as long as they are stricter than the federal ones. If I understand things correctly, what California got was permission after they proved they were stricter; it’s also why I think the Trump admin has 0% chance of removing the permission because California isn’t violating the law at all. In a normal administration, that’s all that would be required. NM is joining CA in the fight by doing this.
re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
If a sitting President cannot be prosecuted for his crimes, why does he need standing counsel?
More importantly, in my definitely-not-a-lawyer opinion, what’s the difference? Is it any better/worse/the same if President Trump tried to extort dirt-digging from the Ukraine government via “official” channels, or via his “personal attorney” (Rudy Ferretsbane)?
Unless he can somehow try to disassociate/disavow/throw Giuliani under the bus, it seems like his tiny hands are dirty in any case.
re: #140 The Pie Overlord!
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This is even more damning than Nixon’s smoking gun!
“A perfect call.”
Yeah, for an egotistical, extortionist con man, it’s textbook.
The President dragged the Attorney General into this mess. At a minimum, AG Barr must recuse himself until we get to the bottom of this matter. #UkraineTranscript https://t.co/lBMsllCafp
— (((Rep. Nadler))) (@RepJerryNadler) September 25, 2019
Nadler’s on the right track. He should demand Barr’s resignation.
re: #135 MsJ
Beats me. I just found it fascinating.
States Rights, right? Or does that only apply to banning abortions, slavery, and fixing elections? It’s all so confusing.
re: #148 The Pie Overlord!
“Look, I turned over the conversation. That’s what this is all about, right, the fact that I wouldn’t turn over the conversation? Now that you know, this can go away right? It’s not illegal to demand something, just to cover it up, right?”
Trump Insists Impeachment Is Good for Him Politically
that may be
it’s also very good for Dems politically
(i wonder what he thinks about the effects on the rest of the R party who are not himself)
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it’s clear that any actual ‘business’ the trump admin was doing is going to grind further to a halt. mcconnell already stifles every bill the house sends over.
so while all this posturing goes on (yes from both sides), the Dem’s have to show they can walk and chew gum. That we can govern:
a disqus commenter:
Democrats need to continue to push a legislative agenda geared towards raising the middle class. Issues like health care, student loan relief, immigration reform, minimum wage increases, strengthening of unions, climate change, etc. We cannot just be the anti Trump party. We need to show the public what we offer and what we want to accomplish if given the opportunity.
re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
If a sitting President cannot be prosecuted for his crimes, why does he need standing counsel?
to spend 4 (or 8) years poisoning the well for after his two [sic] terms are up…
re: #140 The Pie Overlord!
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re: #146 lawhawk
Because he thinks other people - mostly his base - lack the capacity for rational thought and don’t care about facts and logic and instead feel like Trump is right when he says whatever he does?
Fuck their feelings and opinions. The fact is Trump broke any number of laws and must be impeached and removed from office.
I took a look over at free_republik to see what they had to say. It’s about what I expected. Not quid pro quo, tr*mp just asked for help, Nancy kneecapped herself, the preznit is the chief law enforcement person in the country and can look at any crime any time for whatever reason, etc. Dems is dumb…
re: #148 The Pie Overlord!
“A perfect call”? WTAF does that mean?
re: #130 MsJ
Trump agreed to release the transcript following days of mounting pressure from Congress.
should read “Trump to release the transcript following days of Congress pointing out he is required by law”
(that the transcript alone isnt enough is besides the point)
re: #164 Colère Tueur de Lapin
“A perfect call”? WTAF does that mean?
Everything he does is “perfect” or “beautiful”.
re: #156 Skip Intro
States Rights, right? Or does that only apply to banning abortions, slavery, and fixing elections? It’s all so confusing.
states rights apply to whatever the issue du jour is
re: #165 DangerMan
should read “Trump to release the transcript following days of Congress pointing out he is required by law”
(that the transcript alone isnt enough is besides the point)
This isn’t a transcript.
We need the WB report. But that Trump thinks this somehow exonerates him shows just how ignorant he is about everything he does. It also goes to how criminally incompetent his advisers are because they don’t realize how awful they all are.
re: #157 Belafon
“Look, I turned over the conversation. That’s what this is all about, right, the fact that I wouldn’t turn over the conversation? Now that you know, this can go away right? It’s not illegal to demand something, just to cover it up, right?”
A reminder to all: Trump doesn’t read. Does any of you really believe that he saw the mini transcript before it got released? No — he just told one of his minions to produce what they had produced, making the assumption that it would show him in a good light.
re: #159 Belafon
Dear discus commenter: Have you been paying attention?
i read it as we have been and don’t let up. keep on keeping on.
re: #166 Skip Intro
Everything he does is “perfect” or “beautiful”.
Or “bad news”, “bigly”, “stupid”, “fake” or whatever 3rd grade insult comes to his feeble mind at the moment.
re: #164 Colère Tueur de Lapin
“A perfect call”? WTAF does that mean?
one of his favorite superlative 5th grade education words
Trump refused to answer any questions.
Yeah, because innocent men always wuss out of answering questions.
The stench and filth coming from this man is nauseating.
re: #170 DangerMan
i read it as we have been and don’t let up. keep on keeping on.
But what good has that done since no one seems aware that the Democrats have been passing bills that never see the light of day in the Grim Reaper’s domain. Maybe this Ukraine call will finally change everything.
Personally I cannot believe that Barr saw this “transcript” before it was released. He is evil, not stupid.
Decide for yourself.
re: #127 MsJ
My husband is having a fit because I keep telling him I want to put them in the yard for the squirrels this winter.
How many trailers full did you have? I would say we usually have easily 6-10x that trailer full in a big year (like this year).
That was from one tree that is close to the house. Another tree is close to a gully so we used a bucket and pitched them. We have a dozen more but the walnuts they drop are not walking hazards so we left them. That photo was taken last December.
re: #176 The Pie Overlord!
A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.* (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty “Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned t_o listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A numper of factors can affect ‘the accuracy of the reco’d, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation. The word “inaudible” is used to indifate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear
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re: #177 jeffreyw
That was from one tree that is close to the house. Another tree is close to a gully so we used a bucket and pitched them. We have a dozen more but the walnuts they drop are not walking hazards so we left them. That photo was taken last December.
Last year we had squirrels in such abundance that they were crazily running across streets in search of acorns and getting squashed, falling out of trees, etc. This year when the wind blows the acorns fall like rain but there are relatively few squirrels.
THE CALL WAS 30 MINUTES LONG.
Does the transcript does not contain 30 minutes of content?— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) September 25, 2019
Trump sincerely believes the “transcript” is a great look for him: “The way you had that built up, that call, it was going to be the call from hell. It turned out to be a nothing call. Other than, a lot of people said, ‘I never knew you could be so nice.’” pic.twitter.com/skIdOGr1Uy
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 25, 2019
re: #180 lawhawk
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— Louis R. Bridgeman (@LouisRBridgema3) September 25, 2019
Reminder: the reason Nixon suggested that particular Senator… is because he was notoriously hard of hearing.
The thing that was released Was. Not. A. Transcript.
Instead, Trump is literally throwing people in camps and some of them are dying. These tools have to be dealt with when rational government returns to this country. The failure to punish the guilty after the Civil War was the greatest mistake in American history. Don’t repeat it.
Right-wing commentator and radio host Dave Janda says there is “no doubt” in his mind that he and other conservatives would have been placed in FEMA internment camps and killed if Hillary Clinton had become president. https://t.co/RQmCsfIdNz pic.twitter.com/LN0OBFUhrk
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 25, 2019
What is the crime?
— 🇺🇸Payback is Coming (@CommieforniaMag) September 25, 2019
What is the crime?
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The transcript of the call reads like a classic mob shakedown:
– We do a lot for Ukraine
– There’s not much reciprocity
– I have a favor to ask
– Investigate my opponent
– My people will be in touch
Nice country you got there.
It would be a shame if something happened to her.— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) September 25, 2019
re: #185 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I’m sorry, Dave, but just because you think that doesn’t make it true.
re: #188 Belafon
Isn’t that President Hillary Clinton? I’m sorry, I’m really not good at this.
re: #175 Hecuba’s daughter
But what good has that done since no one seems aware that the Democrats have been passing bills that never see the light of day in the Grim Reaper’s domain. Maybe this Ukraine call will finally change everything.
Personally I cannot believe that Barr saw this “transcript” before it was released. He is evil, not stupid.
im guessing
- trump wont be able to constantly ‘distract’ this
- impeachment /ukraine is gonna be front and center in the news —- a lot
- and with any other washington business, little as there was, now dead, there’s nothing to push it off the front pages
- essentially the dems have the microphone/megaphone
- while the ‘rs are really good at exploiting / coordinating the megaphone, they’re gonna start to look really stupid after a while (if what i think is gonna come out actually does
- the dems dont have to handle all aspects of the impeachment story - most of it will run by itself
- so while they have the collective mic, they have the opportunity to push another very large story - that we have been and continue to be the adults in the room. we have plans and ideas. and we don’t abuse the system.
re: #186 Chrysicat
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>>>that the only way they’ll get the military aid CONGRESS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED BE APPROPRIATED FOR THEM—which if it doesn’t arrive means Russia will “reincorporate their rogue oblast”—is to dish up dirt on a POTENTIAL enemy (we’re no longer just opposition) nominee,
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 25, 2019
but it’s still either a high crime or misdemeanor and thus in the purview of Congress. Now it may STILL be touch to CONVICT him because too many R senators would be unwilling to lose both him AND Pence to this, but…🤷♀️
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 25, 2019
re: #185 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Instead, Trump is literally throwing people in camps and some of them are dying. These tools have to be dealt with when rational government returns to this country. The failure to punish the guilty after the Civil War was the greatest mistake in American history. Don’t repeat it.
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Those guys would have let Hillary pt them in FEMA Camps and kill them? What a bunch of wimps.
Also….I wish Hillary would have won.
re: #176 The Pie Overlord!
Decide for yourself.
Initially, it seemed that Zelensky was auditioning for a role on SNL — but then I remembered he is actually a comic. Probably watches SNL for hints on how to communicate to El Presidente. Well played Zelenksy!! Especially the reference to draining the swamp. Do you think all his aides were convulsing in laughter?
re: #183 sagehen
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Reminder: the reason Nixon suggested that particular Senator… is because he was notoriously hard of hearing.
as i recall, he was also in the hospital for some months before he was ‘selected’.
quoting Robert Klein “why couldnt the tapes record that. when president nixon said to alexander haig, ‘al get me a deaf senator. i’ll do the rest’ “
re: #184 Colère Tueur de Lapin
The thing that was released Was. Not. A. Transcript.
patience folks
everyone knows this
and they all know where this is going
re: #192 b.d.
Those guys would have let Hillary pt them in FEMA Camps and kill them? What a bunch of wimps.
Also….I wish Hillary would have won.
Yeah, I’m almost worried that if we take the whole house of cards down at once (Left Twitter has Pence clearly incriminated by Don Donnie’s side of the conversation), someone’s going to try to make her Pelosi’s VP—and I’m not confident that, if she’s approved for that position, Nancy wouldn’t try to resign afterwards.
re: #196 Chrysicat
Yeah, I’m almost worried that if we take the whole house of cards down at once (Left Twitter has Pence clearly incriminated by Don Donnie’s side of the conversation), someone’s going to try to make her Pelosi’s VP—and I’m not confident that, if she’s approved for that position, Nancy wouldn’t try to resign afterwards.
Ummm. I am really not thinking this morning. Obviously, that’s two concepts being conflated: that she “may still have a chance at having won, in a way”, and that “that is a bad idea because she won’t win an election from a 1-year term any better than from outside the WH”.
re: #196 Chrysicat
Yeah, I’m almost worried that if we take the whole house of cards down at once (Left Twitter has Pence clearly incriminated by Don Donnie’s side of the conversation), someone’s going to try to make her Pelosi’s VP—and I’m not confident that, if she’s approved for that position, Nancy wouldn’t try to resign afterwards.
We’re not going to get Republican senators on board to convict Trump and Pence if we don’t put in a placeholder in Pence’s place.
And in other news, former head of Danske Bank’s Estonia branch found dead after two days of searching…in his own home.
BREAKING: Body of Danske Bank’s former Estonian chief found https://t.co/3HvMMjfXov
— Bill Browder (@Billbrowder) September 25, 2019
re: #186 Chrysicat
🇺🇸Payback is Coming
@CommieforniaMag
What is the crime?
a ‘crime’ is not necessary for impeachment
learn some constitution. ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ doesnt mean what you think it means.
re: #199 Barefoot Grin
And in other news, former head of Danske Bank’s Estonia branch found dead after two days of searching…in his own home.
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re: #199 Barefoot Grin
And in other news, former head of Danske Bank’s Estonia branch found dead after two days of searching…in his own home.
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How is that possible?
Moreover, is there any possibility the body wasn’t in the home during the first days of the search? It’d be a new trick from Putin’s old dogs, if so…
re: #201 Florida Panhandler
“Naturally-occurring” Polonium I suspect will be the official COD.
Yep.
re: #202 Chrysicat
How is that possible?
Moreover, is there any possibility the body wasn’t in the home during the first days of the search? It’d be a new trick from Putin’s old dogs, if so…
A lot of folks in the thread are asking the same question—surely the search would have started at his home. Hinky af.
re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Researcher #1: “Wait a minute, Autism spectrum people are over-represented in research science. But… But.. that means….”
Researcher #2: “My God!”
AUTISM CAUSES VACCINES!
re: #185 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I’ll say it again - we need to make the Jacobite suppression look gentle.
I love all the concern trolls yesterday and this morning saying, “If we publish the transcript what world leader is gonna want to talk to us again?” when it comes out that Trump trashes people like Merkel and the EU in the memo of the call.
re: #206 Flying Squirrel Girl
I love all the concern trolls yesterday and this morning saying, “If we publish the transcript what world leader is gonna want to talk to us again?” when it comes out that Trump trashes people like Merkel and the EU in the memo of the call.
Well, there’s not that many world leaders who want to talk to us anyway, so…
Looks like Don Jr. has his feet wet as well.
HEY LINDS CHECK IT OUT
Don Jr met with Lev Parnas in May. Parnas has been tasked by Giuliani to help with the Ukraine meddling. pic.twitter.com/QvrfM9QkkD— Benny the snitch (@Bennythesnitch) September 25, 2019
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 25, 2019
Is there really any chance trump would throw Giuliani under the bus? Rudy definitely knows where a lot of bodies are buried. After all, he telegraphed the New York FBI treachery before anyone else, if I recall correctly.
New national Quinnipiac poll:
Warren: 27% (+8)
Biden: 25% (-7)
Sanders: 16% (+1)
Nobody else in double digitshttps://t.co/QDsUQIn6MR— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 25, 2019
re: #210 Scout
Is there really any chance trump would throw Giuliani under the bus. Rudy definitely knows where a lot of bodies are buried. After all, he telegraphed the New York FBI treachery before anyone else, if I recall correctly.
Trump would throw Ivanka under the bus to save himself.
re: #210 Scout
Is there really any chance trump would throw Giuliani under the bus? Rudy definitely knows where a lot of bodies are buried. After all, he telegraphed the New York FBI treachery before anyone else, if I recall correctly.
Trump will throw almost anyone under the bus if he thinks it will help save his own ass. He never thinks long term about such things so even if the person under the bus could potentially damage him, Trump doesn’t care.
Here are the White House talking points on the Ukraine call.
It’s a master class in straw man arguments. pic.twitter.com/Dugxee7seS— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) September 25, 2019
This is probably not among the 5 worst things Trump has done as POTUS (or among the 20 worst things he has done in his life!).
Even so, the idea that the day after the Mueller hearings he could be on the phone attempting to engineer MORE election interference AND he thinks this joke of a “transcript” released today exonerates him is astounding to me. We can’t have a delusional asshole as POTUS. I was against impeachment as recently as last week, but now there is no choice. I feel certain the only way to POSSIBLY get him out of office is to beat him in the election, but integrity and basic decency compel Speaker Pelosi to take the step she has.
re: #208 Dave In Austin
yes we should pound them with the ‘lindsey’ rule
though he did make an error back then
clinton didnt do, and wasnt gonna be tried in the senate for “conduct as a public official clearly out of bounds” as your role [as president]
oh and with the doj memo how could any president be convicted of a crime before impeachment?
re: #210 Scout
Is there really any chance trump would throw Giuliani under the bus? Rudy definitely knows where a lot of bodies are buried. After all, he telegraphed the New York FBI treachery before anyone else, if I recall correctly.
cf: michael cohen
im surprised he hasnt sung even more
he’s keeping his powder dry
Anyone who has ever listened to the Gotti tapes will recognize the subtlety here https://t.co/dhH9ygxvJK
— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) September 25, 2019
Okay, I went out to get a new SIM card for my new phone (which is a whole ‘nother story which sucks) and buy cat food, and now I’m back and I’m still utterly stunned at how anyone in the White House would think this transcript or memo or whatever you want to call it exonerates anyone.
If anything, it implicates more people than we knew about yesterday.
Trump has to be the one calling the shots on this. He’s the only one dumb enough to think he can skate on this.
lol…
Zelensky: “…specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins…”
Trump: “I would like you to do us a favor though…”
🤯https://t.co/emdL5BHjsI— 🕸️Ale🕷️ander Reid Ross 🕸️ (@areidross) September 25, 2019
- specifically i would like more shotputs sir
- shotputs?
- yes, and those hurdle thingies that they jump over?
- ah, i see. but first you must kill a man i dislike
- throw in some of those things u throw into a pool that sink to the bottom and u have to swim down to get it.
- np— 🕸️Ale🕷️ander Reid Ross 🕸️ (@areidross) September 25, 2019
re: #220 makeitstop
Okay, I went out to get a new SIM card for my new phone (which is a whole ‘nother story which sucks) and buy cat food, and now I’m back and I’m still utterly stunned at how anyone in the White House would think this transcript or memo or whatever you want to call it exonerates anyone.
If anything, it implicates more people than we knew about yesterday.
Trump has to be the one calling the shots on this. He’s the only one dumb enough to think he can skate on this.
If you think that’s bugnuts insane, check out McCarthy, Cheney and others claiming that Pelosi needs to resign/step down/apologize for impeaching Trump.
They’re all going full metal DARVO. Trump didn’t break the law, Pelosi did.
re: #216 bratwurst
This is probably not among the 5 worst things Trump has done as POTUS (or among the 20 worst things he has done in his life!).
Even so, the idea that the day after the Mueller hearings he could be on the phone attempting to engineer MORE election interference AND he thinks this joke of a “transcript” released today exonerates him is astounding to me. We can’t have a delusional asshole as POTUS. I was against impeachment as recently as last week, but now there is no choice. I feel certain the only way to POSSIBLY get him out of office is to beat him in the election, but integrity and basic decency compel the impeachment process to take place now.
mueller and the phone call are not tied together
that would require strategic thinking and evaluation
just coincidence
re: #220 makeitstop
Okay, I went out to get a new SIM card for my new phone (which is a whole ‘nother story which sucks) and buy cat food, and now I’m back and I’m still utterly stunned at how anyone in the White House would think this transcript or memo or whatever you want to call it exonerates anyone.
If anything, it implicates more people than we knew about yesterday.
Trump has to be the one calling the shots on this. He’s the only one dumb enough to think he can skate on this.
i dont care what any of them think or why they’re doing what theyre doing
as long as they keep stepping in it worse and worse
re: #216 bratwurst
This is probably not among the 5 worst things Trump has done as POTUS (or among the 20 worst things he has done in his life!).
Even so, the idea that the day after the Mueller hearings he could be on the phone attempting to engineer MORE election interference AND he thinks this joke of a “transcript” released today exonerates him is astounding to me. We can’t have a delusional asshole as POTUS. I was against impeachment as recently as last week, but now there is no choice. I feel certain the only way to POSSIBLY get him out of office is to beat him in the election, but integrity and basic decency compel Speaker Pelosi to take the step she has.
It’s amazing the transformation across the political landscape in the last 48-72 hours.
Pushing Zelensky to investigate Biden is an impeachable with or without a quid pro quo. But just so we are all on the same page, the quid pro quo is right there for everyone to see. https://t.co/zFgRsv8E4a
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) September 25, 2019
“direct”
Imagine thinking that clears you. https://t.co/m6MjrZ9kS9— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 25, 2019
such a moron
“He (President Trump) didn’t specifically mention the explicit quid pro quo of…unless you investigate this…we’re going to withhold military aid to you.” Pamela Brown
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 25, 2019
re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth
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And I’m sorry but Bret Baier is as objective as I am on Trump. I don’t pretend to be a journalist though.
I like how his asskissers saying he’s in the clear means he’s in the clear. Dumbass.
Washpo doesn’t seem to call it a transcript. Because of course as it says on it— it’s notes and recollections of a call—not a verbatim transcript. https://t.co/rqhFSGMGwK
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) September 25, 2019
re: #176 The Pie Overlord!
Decide for yourself.
So: The United States has been very good to Ukraine in terms of foreign aid, but I’m upset that the relationship isn’t reciprocal, because bad things are happening in Ukraine, like, for example, the failure to investigate my presumptive opponent in the presidential election.
re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth
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MAGAs: He did not directly shoot him!
Trump: Everything about that interaction was perfectly normal. Caught them by surprise! When will everyone apologize?
“other members” seems to mean “exclusively Republicans” for a “get on the same page” meeting.
Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz reveals on @MSNBC that he and other members of Congress were invited to the White House this morning to discuss the memo of the Ukraine phone call with Trump.
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 25, 2019
Chuck Schumer: “The timing of the departures of the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine and the former director of National Intelligence and his principal deputy must be investigated, as well as the movements of President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani.”
Via CNN pic.twitter.com/B1idJV2btv— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 25, 2019
re: #225 Barefoot Grin
It’s amazing the transformation across the political landscape in the last 48-72 hours.
Like I say, I am still convinced it takes a decisive electoral defeat to get rid of Trump. I do not believe there are 5 GOP senators (much less the number actually required for impeachment) with the integrity to go against Trump, but we simply cannot accept bullying foreign leaders to provide domestic political assistance as “normal” presidential behavior.
re: #225 Barefoot Grin
It’s amazing the transformation across the political landscape in the last 48-72 hours.
new facts will do that
One underrated aspect of the Ukraine story: Pence is up to his eyeballs in it. If it somehow takes down Trump, Pence won’t escape. https://t.co/SHXdz4cc36 pic.twitter.com/mpARUfgKvw
— Will Saletan (@saletan) September 25, 2019
Wait, wait, it gets even more stupid…
Here’s a screenshot of the White House asking House Democrats to please disregard the talking points on Trump/Ukraine they just emailed them pic.twitter.com/55HgOESWyL
— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) September 25, 2019
They sent Pelosi their fucking talking points!
re: #241 makeitstop
Wait, wait, it gets even more stupid…
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They sent Pelosi their fucking talking points!
They’re not that smart.
re: #241 makeitstop
Wait, wait, it gets even more stupid…
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They sent Pelosi their fucking talking points!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Epic flailing.
re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Epic flailing.
In what appears to be their blind fucking panic, they’re making more unforced errors.
Please proceed.
Barr has to recuse. Has to.
But he won’t. https://t.co/IAxMAgAbd6— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) September 25, 2019
re: #238 bratwurst
Like I say, I am still convinced it takes a decisive electoral defeat to get rid of Trump. I do not believe there are 5 GOP senators (much less the number actually required for impeachment) with the integrity to go against Trump, but we simply cannot accept bullying foreign leaders to provide domestic political assistance as “normal” presidential behavior.
True (just IMHO), but unfortunately, there is a non-trivial percentage of the electorate (not to mention those in Congress) who are quite willing to do exactly that, providing that said President is:
A) Donald Trump
B) If necessary, a replacement “Trump”
C) in a pinch, any (R)
This is pretty darn ominous.
After Zelensky derides recalled U.S. ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, Trump responds, “Well, she’s going to go through some things.” pic.twitter.com/mnpV3Ws27Q— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) September 25, 2019
I’m wondering if they didn’t just send every Dem in Congress their talking points….
A Senate Dem’s office just emailed to say the White House emailed them their talking points on Trump/Ukraine, too.
And then sent a follow-up “recall” email.— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) September 25, 2019
re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth
Chuck Schumer: “The timing of the departures of the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine and the former director of National Intelligence and his principal deputy must be investigated, as well as the movements of President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani.”
But most of all, we must find out what the Bidens were up to! Must have been really heinous if the Democrats had to commence impeachment to distract us from it!!! Drain the Swamp!!!!!
re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth
Barr has to recuse. Has to.
But he won’t. https://t.co/IAxMAgAbd6— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) September 25, 2019
- DOJ looks at this and says “So what?” completely ignoring the extortion, campaign finance angle and just plain traitorous nature of the thing
remember Al Gore? used a phone in his VP office for fundraising.
caught all kinds of hell.
oh yeah - Clinton talked to Loretta Lynch on a plane.
they thought that was treason.
i’ve long since stopped being surprised, let alone outraged by the hypocrisy and whataboutism.
just pointing it out is sufficient to make its own case
…and, oh by the way, those emoluments.. pfffft..
“I stayed at your high end hotel.. ” pic.twitter.com/DcKUGueOzp— Jack Hutton (@jackhutton) September 25, 2019
re: #249 makeitstop
I’m wondering if they didn’t just send every Dem in Congress their talking points….
See how transparent we are!!
breitbarts celebrating since they’re convinced that the transcript utterly exonerate trump
re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth
Trump’s gutting the federal govt of qualified career people. He goes after everyone who isn’t a (R), and he’s politicizing every aspect of government operations.
This sounds like something out of a straight to-video mob movie. pic.twitter.com/4mrRbSNNDC
— Kara Calavera (@KaraCalavera) September 25, 2019
re: #256 lawhawk
Trump’s gutting the federal govt of qualified career people. He goes after everyone who isn’t a (R), and he’s politicizing every aspect of government operations.
He’s goes after Rs too if they don’t mercilessly kiss the ring.
re: #241 makeitstop
Wait, wait, it gets even more stupid…
They sent Pelosi their fucking talking points!
I didn’t expect something like this during Infrastructure Week.
//
So is there any evil, corrupt, immoral, shitty thing these assholes HAVEN’T done? JFC. I mean, I guess in some ways it’s good that they’re mostly bloated,stupid, arrogant dipshits. But this truly highlights the amount of damage the right wing machine has done to us as a country. We’re more stupid and mean than ever, and that never ends well for anyone. Being awful is profitable and rewarded. Until it isn’t. I have to believe there’s a bottom to this and when we climb back out there’s a world left to fix. I’m happy about this turn around, but there’s a way to go before more people end up on jail ( and no one’s left to pardon them either) which is really the only thing that’s going to put a stop to it. Jail and seizure of assets. That shit belongs to US. I want our country back, so we can do better and make sure this shit doesn’t happen again. Can we learn from this? I hope so but we need leaders willing to work and who can unite us. We really are up against evil shit here. They’ve shown us who they are, we need to believe them. They’ve proven it over and over.
Integrity can be defined as what you do when nobody’s looking. They have none.
re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth
such a moron
And if he had “specifically…explicitly” mentioned it, we’d be told “That isn’t a crime!”
Shovel. Meet hole. https://t.co/zszRQd2rVi
— Michael Steele (@MichaelSteele) September 25, 2019
Woke Mooch is really something to see.
The felon @realDonaldTrump put this out there to try to normalize it. He knew it was coming out anyway. It is a prima facie illegal act. He should resign tonight. We are in a battle now for the American Democracy.
— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) September 25, 2019
re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth
Rudy Giuliani: “I never committed a crime till i committed a crime”
I really fucking hate weebs:
this is the funniest shit i have ever seen pic.twitter.com/T0J9qV8qDd
— the CEO of lgbt (@johtoregion) September 18, 2019
Yuk, yuk, yuk. If your audience was any more inbred, it would be a Panera franchise.
— Lord Piltdown (@jimreynolds54) September 25, 2019
re: #125 jeffreyw
We had a few last year, this year is a bust, though.
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re: #265 DangerMan
Rudy Giuliani: “I never committed a crime till i committed a crime”
“It’s not a crime to commit a crime!”
re: #269 Sir John Barron
“It’s not a crime to commit a crime!”
Didn’t he say awhile back something like “The truth isn’t the truth”?
re: #148 The Pie Overlord!
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And I thought I heard it wasn’t just one call, but many over a period of time. So if this one was the least incriminating, then he is in some shit.
If this is what Trump says on a call that he knows people are listening in on, imagine what he said to Putin and Kim in private.
You want to think about that. Think about it hard.— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 25, 2019
re: #256 lawhawk
Trump’s gutting the federal govt of qualified career people. He goes after everyone who isn’t
a (R)immediate family or a Board-Certified ass-kisser, and he’s politicizing every aspect of government operations.
re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth
If more people truly understood how our governments, federal,state and local, actually worked, fixing this madness might be easier. Hell I have heard more than one elected official say shit, out loud, that indicates they have no idea at all what their actual job is. That is a product of the current election process and it’s combo as a popularity contest and money making enterprise. Reality TV. Pander to the LCD and sling shit. How is that ever going to work to end misery and suffering and make a safer world?
I AM NOT A CROOK!!111!!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 25, 2019
re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth
I AM NOT A CROOK!!111!!
It’s a Transcript! The real Transcript, Word for word. Believe me.
re: #275 A Mom Anon
If more people truly understood how our governments, federal,state and local, actually worked, fixing this madness might be easier. Hell I have heard more than one elected official say shit, out loud, that indicates they have no idea at all what their actual job is. That is a product of the current election process and it’s combo as a popularity contest and money making enterprise. Reality TV. Pander to the LCD and sling shit. How is that ever going to work to end misery and suffering and make a safer world?
What? You think they care? Their goal is to enrich the wealthy at the expense of everyone else and to make sure that oligarchs are running every nation. The “good” ones have no interest in anyone else; the bad ones, like Trump and the current GOP, take pleasure in intensifying the suffering of others.
re: #269 Sir John Barron
“It’s not a crime to commit a crime!”
“its not a crime if the president tells me to do it”
re: #269 Sir John Barron
“It’s not a crime to commit a crime!”
I’m now thinking we’re going to get a significant number of Republicans distancing themselves from the yam and possibly voting for impeachment. Not from the contents of the transcript, but because of the utter mindblowing fucking stupidity of releasing a Sopranos-level shakedown and thinking it would help. If he’s that likely to just blurt out I COMMITTED CRIMES OH YEAH HERE YOU GO, you want to get away from this nut as fast as possible.
re: #272 Eventual Carrion
And I thought I heard it wasn’t just one call, but many over a period of time. So if this one was the least incriminating, then he is in some shit.
theyre doing the mueller report gambit
get this out first
then the actual transcript will come out later — oh no, too late
and the actual whistleblower complaint
though i dont think this ‘summary’ had the same effect that barr’s summary of mueller had
and (hopefully) the entire transcript and / or audio file will come out - as opposed to the redacted mueller report
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— jeffreyw (@imjeffreyw) September 25, 2019
Ugh, Gabbard has qualified for the next debate. fivethirtyeight.com
re: #280 ericblair
I’m now thinking we’re going to get a significant number of Republicans distancing themselves from the yam and possibly voting for impeachment. Not from the contents of the transcript, but because of the utter mindblowing fucking stupidity of releasing a Sopranos-level shakedown and thinking it would help. If he’s that likely to just blurt out I COMMITTED CRIMES OH YEAH HERE YOU GO, you want to get away from this nut as fast as possible.
maybe
but have you been paying attention the last two years? //
re: #280 ericblair
I’m now thinking we’re going to get a significant number of Republicans distancing themselves from the yam and possibly voting for impeachment. Not from the contents of the transcript, but because of the utter mindblowing fucking stupidity of releasing a Sopranos-level shakedown and thinking it would help. If he’s that likely to just blurt out I COMMITTED CRIMES OH YEAH HERE YOU GO, you want to get away from this nut as fast as possible.
I heard on MSNBC that one anonymous Senator said 30 GOP Senators would convict if the vote was private. But since its still GOP political suicide to oppose Trump, no.
re: #285 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I heard on MSNBC that one anonymous Senator said 30 GOP Senators would convict if the vote was private. But since its still GOP political suicide to oppose Trump, no.
The trick is to make it politically suicidal to continue to support Trump
re: #278 Hecuba’s daughter
They may not care. But they can’t get into office without votes and if we are vigilant and informed, we won’t end up with so many shitty humans running things. We’re always gonna have toxic assholes, our job is to minimize them, not promote that shit. There is no one fix either, we’re well past that. But this reality TV way of electing people is a hot mess, the whole fundraising and pandering to fear and loathing and a media who amplifies the worst shit, it has to GO. There is so much wrong we need all hands on deck to do all of it. Bullies need to be put aside and sat on when they show themselves. They won’t stop until they are stopped. We have a lot to do, voting and impeachment hearings are a drop in the bucket. We’re in for a long slog.
re: #280 ericblair
And yet…. the House GOPers are racing to the microphones to do just that.
They’re lemmings and complicit in covering for Trump’s criminality.
re: #284 DangerMan
maybe
but have you been paying attention the last two years? //
I’ve had some experience observing authoritarian societies. As long as the system holds together, you can get away with almost anything if you’re in Dear Leader’s good graces. If the system starts to crumble, everything comes out, you’re in a great deal of danger, and things fall apart very fast.
re: #281 DangerMan
theyre doing the mueller report gambit
get this out first
then the actual transcript will come out later — oh no, too late
and the actual whistleblower complaintthough i dont think this ‘summary’ had the same effect that barr’s summary of mueller had
and (hopefully) the entire transcript and / or audio file will come out - as opposed to the redacted mueller report
And it’s really hard to believe how much “credibility” was given to Barr’s summary of Mueller by the media.
re: #283 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Ugh, Gabbard has qualified for the next debate. fivethirtyeight.com
How in the world….?
If he’s a mall santa and drives an ice cream truck, we may have a predator bingo.
— Prosecco Proletariat🌹 ☭ (@Chris_SactoCA) September 25, 2019
There was one other that I can’t find now “Well, since he’s both libertarian and catholic, the statistical chance that he’d defend pedophilia is 112%”
It is a mistake to narrow the impeachment focus to the whistleblower complaint, I’m sure Nadler has a folder full of impeachable acts just from the Mueller report. The whistleblower thing was the tipping point. The forest is afire and there are already many burnt trees.
sweet!
Just announced: Al Franken is getting a Saturday morning radio show on SiriusXM Progress. Chris Rock is his first guest this weekend. Sirius says he’ll also appear on other shows and contribute to election coverage.
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) September 25, 2019
Hard to keep up with everything going on when you have to cat herd a bunch of technicians through fixing a molasses-slow database.
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re: #249 makeitstop
I’m wondering if they didn’t just send every Dem in Congress their talking points….
Always have your outlook copy every emial to a local folder. That prevents recalls from deleting it.
re: #294 jeffreyw
It is a mistake to narrow the impeachment focus to the whistleblower complaint, I’m sure Nadler has a folder full of impeachable acts just from the Mueller report. The whistleblower thing was the tipping point. The forest is afire and there are already many burnt trees.
Nancy requested that 6 committees proceed with their investigation — so clearly it’s not merely the whistleblower complaint.
re: #294 jeffreyw
I hope Nadler just kicks the door wide open and drops one thing after the next when the expected whining about Ukraine starts in hearings, like emoluments and assorted sons and daughter and co enriching themselves by stealing from the American people. There’s got to be lots we aren’t even privy to. There always is.
Tell ya what Roger, You use the term “Every”. OK, Let’s drop all those OK? Done!!
Now, How about we concentrate on 1 (One) thing OK?
Like extortion for political “favors” (his words, not mine) for much needed military aid.
Will that work Roger??? Could it not get any clearer?— 🦈And the Wind Cries “Impeach Him”🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) September 25, 2019
1. This is right after the Mueller report. He freaked out then and said it was “fake”. What wasn’t fake was his reaction. If the real numbers were better, he and his minions would say so and show their work.
— Carol Johnson (@townsquare56) September 25, 2019
I just did my first thread and am going to add a few observations:..What we are seeing is pure panic. Biden is just one of 12 candidates right now, and we have 4-5 months to go before the first votes. So why not wait until the herd thins a little, or even if he gets the nomination before all this? Because Trump’s numbers are the most static and underwater ever. He never gets above even 45% and never below 41-42 percent. He’s running out of time to even get people to accept him let alone like him.
His only hope is that Democrats reject him for someone else, or even nominate Tulsi or Marianne. Which is why the r-fuckers keep pouring money into their campaigns. Pour all the money in they want-they are at best 1-2% and have no chance of even winning a single caucus, let alone primary. But Dems are not rejecting Biden, so the option is to take him, and enough of the top five for one of their favorites to win by default.
re: #294 jeffreyw
It is a mistake to narrow the impeachment focus to the whistleblower complaint, I’m sure Nadler has a folder full of impeachable acts just from the Mueller report. The whistleblower thing was the tipping point. The forest is afire and there are already many burnt trees.
six committees are working on this…
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