Crowded House - Something So Strong (Live From Home, 2020)

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Crowded House… We are a band that was supposed to be on stages very soon in Europe and beyond, but has now accepted the new reality. However housebound, we are still seeking connection. So, in the meantime, the internet provides a chance to play a few of our songs for you, that seems most welcome and joyous, a good way to rehearse and perform, send some best wishes out your way.
Here’s Something So Strong, a few more to follow, enjoy.
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97 comments
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Citizen K  May 9, 2020 • 11:01:30am
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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2020 • 11:07:15am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2020 • 11:08:44am

Just saw President Crybaby’s stupid rants about California. Must be a day that ends in Y.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2020 • 11:09:18am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 9, 2020 • 11:09:35am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Let’s be real here — Flynn’s entire conversation was under the orders of Trump; there’s no way he initiated the call on his own.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 9, 2020 • 11:14:46am

As long as Barr is Attorney General Republicans will get away with anything.

That motherfucker makes John Mitchell look like Robert Kennedy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2020 • 11:16:31am

I was behind:

re: #356 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s suppose something amazing happens and both Pence and Trump are felled by coronavirus — and Nancy takes over. Does that mean she can immediately withdraw every single judicial nomination?

re: #360 Anymouse 🌹🏡

If “felled” you mean “killed,” she is sworn in as President and she can withdraw every nomination pending.

If “felled” you mean “incapacitated,” no.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2020 • 11:19:28am

Incredible Rube Goldberg machine:

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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2020 • 11:21:46am

re: #8 Barefoot Grin

Some folks are starting to go stir crazy.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 9, 2020 • 11:21:56am

re: #1 Citizen K

I devoutly hope It appears that this cult has now reached the mass suicide stage. If I lived close by I would take them a whole box of Kool-Aid mix (I’m not Jim Jones, no cheap knock off for me).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 9, 2020 • 11:23:46am

Chester County, PA COVID-19 stats as of yesterday:

Confirmed cases: 1816 (+46)
Total tests: 8470 (+195)
Deaths: 183 (+7)

Not really much else to add. Numbers creeping up and doubling time slowly extending.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2020 • 11:26:02am

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I devoutly hopeIt appears that this cult has now reached the mass suicide stage. If I lived close by I would take them a whole box of Kool-Aid mix (I’m not Jim Jones, no cheap knock off for me).

Yesterday I pulled up behind a car at a stop light with the WWG1WGA sticker on its rear window. When we got going I changed lanes and let other cars in for a little distance.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2020 • 11:26:18am

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I devoutly hopeIt appears that this cult has now reached the mass suicide stage. If I lived close by I would take them a whole box of Kool-Aid mix (I’m not Jim Jones, no cheap knock off for me).

Reality Free
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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2020 • 11:27:36am

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s be real here — Flynn’s entire conversation was under the orders of Trump; there’s no way he initiated the call on his own.

Yeah, very obviously. Idiots like this are just parroting nonsense they pick up from Fox or Rush - I just block and ignore them.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2020 • 11:28:20am
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Jay C  May 9, 2020 • 11:29:00am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Just saw President Crybaby’s stupid rants about California. Must be a day that ends in Y.

Yeah, the GOP is in dire need of some good news these days: winning the open seat in CA-25 would be the only positive take they would have had in a long time. Though of course, we would also have endure a tsunami of triumphalist gloating from King Orangeanus…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 9, 2020 • 11:30:18am

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is one of my favorite recent cartoons. Just a few lines, but it perfectly captures the complete debasement of the MAGAts.

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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2020 • 11:30:55am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

I have to find a way to give more money to PBS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 11:39:22am

still whining about this

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 11:40:23am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

still whining about this

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Voting both system?

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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2020 • 11:41:24am

re: #20 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You noticed that too. Gee. DT would fail spelling big time in my class.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 9, 2020 • 11:43:30am

Yeah, the thing we should remember about Jonestown isn’t the Flavor-Aid, it’s that Jones and his armed goons created a disaster by killing the Senator; then told everyone else they were either going to be killed by the Venezeluan Army because of the murders they did…then offered them the choice of taking poison or being shot by the afformentioned goons.

And people still tried to argue with Jones. People who believed they owed him their life, that he was in some way the sole spiritual authority…they still argued with him. And they either got shot, or got screamed down and shamed into compliance.

And about of quarter of the poison takers were children. Another quarter were people so old they couldn’t escape.

I belabor this because the accurate depiction of what happened in Jonestown is a better representative of how groups destroy themselves than the more comforting image of “those strange people all sheep-like killed themselves.”

Just like in Guyana…this is a murder-suicide scenario. Reactionaries are making crises bigger because they’re gambling that they can benefit…and if they lose the bet, then everyone dying is a right and just outcome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 11:43:44am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2020 • 11:45:06am

re: #20 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Voting both system?

It’s a series of tubes.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 11:46:17am

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

You noticed that too. Gee. DT would fail spelling big time in my class.

He doesn’t even try.

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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2020 • 11:47:03am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Yes tube. No tube. If so maybe tube. Die Hard tube.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 9, 2020 • 11:49:04am
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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2020 • 11:50:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 11:51:25am
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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2020 • 11:52:40am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you Madam Speaker that was beautiful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 11:53:13am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2020 • 11:53:30am

Nap time. Catch y’all later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 11:54:52am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 11:55:02am

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe your network should have thought about that when they said the first black first couple did a terrorist fist bump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 11:55:52am

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They just wanted to kill someone. Sick evil fucks.

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ckkatz  May 9, 2020 • 11:56:33am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I am so glad that folks are finally shutting down this both siderism/he said she said crap.

I’ve even watched it on MSNBC and simply shut off the tv at that point. Because it is a waste of my time.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2020 • 11:57:34am
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retired cynic  May 9, 2020 • 11:58:04am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2020 • 11:58:44am

re: #35 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They just wanted to kill someone. Sick evil fucks.

And they’ll probably still get off regardless.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  May 9, 2020 • 11:59:15am

re: #27 Rightwingconspirator

Fun fact is that one voting station in that congressional district located at Ronald Reagan Presidential Library

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 11:59:51am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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The bad things I want to happen to this shitgibbon.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 9, 2020 • 12:00:26pm

Not to get all Marshall MacLuhan, but OANN is a great representation of how the medium is the message.

It imitates the format of other 24 hour news shows, therefore it is news.

You can see the same thing in Epoch Times ads: presenting a print paper with enticing reactionary/conspiracist headlines as though the format itself is a source of legitimacy.

This works…uncritical thinkers forget that signifiers are not interchangeable with the signified…and it’s eating the world. Pretty much everything going wrong in this country involves this illusion.

Rituals are substituted for beliefs. Catchphrases and thought-terminating cliches, armature-less, are treated as identical to ideology. Rhetoric is a source of validity.

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plansbandc  May 9, 2020 • 12:00:29pm

re: #35 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They hunted and killed a black man for sport. It was planned from beginning to end. The guy shooting the vid is complicit. If the video would not have come out on social media, they would probably be planning their next hunting trip.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 12:00:42pm

lol

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jaunte  May 9, 2020 • 12:01:55pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

How dare voters demand a place to vote!

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Dread Pirate  May 9, 2020 • 12:01:59pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 12:02:20pm

re: #43 plansbandc

They hunted and killed a black man for sport. It was planned from beginning to end. The guy shooting the vid is complicit. If the video would not have come out on social media, they would probably be planning their next hunting trip.

Absolutely

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Belafon  May 9, 2020 • 12:02:42pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That may actually be the most perfectly structured political ad that doesn’t end with an atomic bomb.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 12:03:03pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

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STFU Ronna

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 12:03:05pm

re: #45 jaunte

How dare voters demand a place to vote!

Democratic voters in Michigan would like a word…

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ckkatz  May 9, 2020 • 12:04:50pm

Hah! I was so busy writing up this car story that I find we are already on a new thread.

For me the car story was 1982.

Bought a ‘73 Dart Demon with the grand old slant six. Bought it off a scuba diver. She let sand sit in the trunk lid lip. The sand held water. The water rusted through the lip and pooled in trunk. It rusted through the floor of the trunk and sat on top of the gas tank. It rusted through the gas tank. There were a few other issues like the floorboards under the driver’s side had rusted through and you could see the pavement. (I felt like Fred Flintstone.

She then sold it to me for $200.

It was a couple of weeks before I could get around to fixing it. In the meantime I drove it around and told friends not to smoke in the backseat. They thought that I was joking. Until they got into the back seat. (Gas tanks have some pressure. As you can imagine I got really bad mileage.)

Anyway, I finally rounded up the money and parts to fix the thing. In the morning I had a gas station replace the gas tank and fix the floor. Then took it to a friend’s farm and we replaced the entire exhaust system from the gasket against the engine block through to the tailpipe.

I then drove it home. And it died about halfway home. (In Monroeville.) I knew it was a problem with the carburetor flooding. But couldn’t figure out why. Eventually the tow truck came and I got it towed to a repair shop.

The problem? The float in the carburetor got ‘waterlogged’ and sunk. Which meant that the carburetor kept flooding. Replaced that carburetor and that thing ran like a charm for the the next two years.

Of course the car body, in Western Pennsylvania, rusted out despite my best efforts to putty the thing together. What passed for the unibody frame finally rusted through and it ended up on the scrapheap of history.

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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2020 • 12:05:23pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

::: eye roll :::
They are joking. I only know that In Philly there are polling places in car repair shops, barber shops, flower shops and in churches. Any place we can put a couple of machines we will do it. Do they really understand the idea is to vote even in a Democratic neighborhood.

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Dread Pirate  May 9, 2020 • 12:07:11pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 12:07:30pm

re: #48 Belafon

That may actually be the most perfectly structured political ad that doesn’t end with an atomic bomb.

It’s a good ad. Trump lacks character and basic decency.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2020 • 12:09:22pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 9, 2020 • 12:10:02pm

re: #51 ckkatz

I don’t have a good car story (well, aside from setting Mrs. Fish’s 1979 Lincoln on fire that one time…), but I have one from my dad.

We went to one of my cousins’ weddings in 1991. My dad was involved in the wedding, so he drove by himself in his late father-in-law’s ‘79 Ford, and my mom had my sister and I in the family car. Afterward, we were expecting to meet him at home. He didn’t show up. An hour goes by. Two hours. Mom’s worried now. Kids are worried because Mom is worried. Suddenly an unfamiliar truck pulls into our (remote rural Illinois) driveway. Mom steps out the door and sees my dad waving out the window. Apparently, the ‘79 had given out on the side of the road on his way home from the reception. After finding his way to a phone, he got to the nearest Chevrolet dealership and bought the first pickup on the lot that had all the options he wanted, trading in the old dead Ford. I never did find out exactly what went wrong with the old truck, though I would hazard a guess, based on what I know now of late 1970’s Fords, that it was either ignition or oil pressure.

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Dread Pirate  May 9, 2020 • 12:10:32pm

Good. Encourage your friends to follow your example.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 9, 2020 • 12:11:16pm

It’s 3PM local time and I’m just getting out of bed. My post covid sleep sked is crazy, but I will adjust. In the meantime, I have not more fucks to give.

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retired cynic  May 9, 2020 • 12:11:42pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

brain fungus…. gah!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2020 • 12:11:57pm

Sunlight destroys Coronavirus quickly, say US scientists

Washington (AFP) - The new coronavirus is quickly destroyed by sunlight, according to new research announced by a senior US official on Thursday, though the study has not yet been made public and awaits external evaluation.

William Bryan, science and technology advisor to the Department of Homeland Security secretary, told reporters at the White House that government scientists had found ultraviolet rays had a potent impact on the pathogen, offering hope that its spread may ease over the summer.

“Our most striking observation to date is the powerful effect that solar light appears to have on killing the virus, both surfaces and in the air,” he said.

This is an AFP story I found through Yahoo news, so it’s not from some kooky fringe site or RW echo chamber.

The crux of the article is that we still don’t know how significant an impact Sunlight has overall.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 12:12:47pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate

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Good. Encourage your friends to follow your example.

Yeah I won’t miss her if Covid finds her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 12:14:19pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

so, how well did that idea work during summer season in the Southern Hemisphere?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 12:15:17pm
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plansbandc  May 9, 2020 • 12:15:51pm

I saw her suitcase when we went to the traveling HOF exhibit.

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retired cynic  May 9, 2020 • 12:15:55pm

In the early days of the pandemic, the U.S. government turned down an offer to manufacture millions of N95 masks in America WaPo

After working with whistleblower Bright starting in January, to no avail:

In March, Bowen submitted a bid to supply masks to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which by then had taken over purchasing.

The government soon spent over $600 million on contracts involving masks. Big companies like Honeywell and 3M were each awarded contracts totaling for over $170 million for protective gear. One distributor of tactical gear — a company with no history of procuring medical equipment — was awarded a $55 million deal to provide masks for as much as $5.50 a piece, eight times what the government was paying months earlier.

On April 7, FEMA awarded Prestige a $9.5 million contract to provide a million N95 masks a month for one year, an order the company could fulfill without activating its dormant manufacturing lines. For the masks, Prestige charged the government 79 cents a piece.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 12:16:50pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Meanwhile these people think a pupuseria in their neighborhood is white genocide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 12:19:03pm
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ckkatz  May 9, 2020 • 12:19:05pm

re: #56 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Your story reminds me of how different car buying and ownership was back in the 70s and 80s (and even into the 90s). And how cars were not expected to last that long in many environments. In Pittsburgh it was rusting and potholes that would kill a car, often in 5-6 years.

The K-Cars were the first effort, that I remember, to make a car last longer. (Except maybe the old Checkers.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 9, 2020 • 12:20:39pm

re: #68 ckkatz

That’s definitely true, but because the truck was an inheritance and he did NOT like that thing at all, I think he was just determined to get rid of it at the first viable excuse. With that said, the ‘91 that he bought lasted for 14 years, until it failed to survive a 50+ mph rear impact with a dump truck with yours truly behind the wheel.

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Citizen K  May 9, 2020 • 12:25:00pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Sunlight destroys Coronavirus quickly, say US scientists

Washington (AFP) - The new coronavirus is quickly destroyed by sunlight, according to new research announced by a senior US official on Thursday, though the study has not yet been made public and awaits external evaluation.

William Bryan, science and technology advisor to the Department of Homeland Security secretary, told reporters at the White House that government scientists had found ultraviolet rays had a potent impact on the pathogen, offering hope that its spread may ease over the summer.

“Our most striking observation to date is the powerful effect that solar light appears to have on killing the virus, both surfaces and in the air,” he said.

This is an AFP story I found through Yahoo news, so it’s not from some kooky fringe site or RW echo chamber.

The crux of the article is that we still don’t know how significant an impact Sunlight has overall.

I still hold my doubts, particularly because 1) anything coming from within the US Executive Branch has to be seen with an extremely skeptical eye these days, and 2) it doesn’t explain how it’s seeded in places south of the equator or near the equator like Southeast Asia or Brazil. It feels like bunkum trying to launder Trump’s brilliant ‘UV in the body’ idea.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 9, 2020 • 12:25:16pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re not going to be happy unless Bernie replaces Biden and even then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 12:25:23pm
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ckkatz  May 9, 2020 • 12:25:52pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

I appreciate your posting of the article.

However, I am going to hold off regarding believing anything a political appointee from this administration says. Particularly regarding an unreleased and not-yet-peer reviewed paper.

The policy of this administration is to get everybody back into work asap. No matter what the health cost. And they are completely unconcerned about point-blank lying in pursuit of that goal.

edit: added word ‘says’ to second sentence in order to complete it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2020 • 12:26:48pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, how well did that idea work during summer season in the Southern Hemisphere?

Actually, the report mentioned in this article suggests the sunlight vulnerability may be why Australia currently only has a relatively low number of cases (7000 across a population of 26 Million).

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plansbandc  May 9, 2020 • 12:30:50pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 9, 2020 • 12:31:17pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate

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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2020 • 12:32:34pm

re: #75 plansbandc

If his jeans are LL Bean I might agree. But if he misspelled genes he is in deep doo-doo.

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Citizen K  May 9, 2020 • 12:33:13pm

re: #74 Eclectic Cyborg

Actually, the report mentioned in this article suggests the sunlight vulnerability may be why Australia currently only has a relatively low number of cases (7000 across a population of 26 Million).

The article doesn’t seem to suggest anything other than the vaunted sunlight theory as responsible compared to, you know, other factors like the Aussie states stepping to the forefront of lockdowns and social distancing policies and such things. Again, I feel like this is a press release more than a serious breakthrough. And to his credit, Dr. Fauci among others doesn’t seem to be banking hard on this either.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2020 • 12:33:28pm

re: #77 PhillyPretzel

If his jeans are LL Bean I might agree. But if he misspelled genes he is in deep doo-doo.

Argh you beat me to the joke! 😛

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ckkatz  May 9, 2020 • 12:33:32pm

re: #69 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s definitely true, but because the truck was an inheritance and he did NOT like that thing at all, I think he was just determined to get rid of it at the first viable excuse. With that said, the ‘91 that he bought lasted for 14 years, until it failed to survive a 50+ mph rear impact with a dump truck with yours truly behind the wheel.

I guess, as the old saying goes, ‘You can lead a father to an inherited truck, but you can’t make him drive it’. Or something like that.

And ouch on the collision! I trust that you were not badly hurt. As I recall, seatbelts were in most vehicles by 1991.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 9, 2020 • 12:36:21pm

re: #43 plansbandc

They hunted and killed a black man for sport. It was planned from beginning to end. The guy shooting the vid is complicit. If the video would not have come out on social media, they would probably be planning their next hunting trip.

I’ve been saying for years…

The definition of self defense is being constantly expanded to include more and more subjective evaluations in which “good gun owners”—mostly white, mostly reactionary, within their own cultural construction—have a right to kill not to protect their lives, or even their properties, but on the basis of vague emotional impressions of threat…

…and that evaluation of threat incorporates class and race prejudices that reflect reactionary, undemocratic tendencies that hearken back to the Antebellum.

Culture colors both legal and administrative norms, and politicized gun culture is shot through with barely-coded language about dangerous others and the need to leap to lethal force because of the scale of the threat others pose existientially merits it. But inside this demimonde lethal force is not just for the physical threat of harm, but the conceptual threat that one’s worth…as a Real American, as a Man, etc…is diminished if you let those other, lesser kinds of people get away with something.

You have to be a warrior cop because…it’s a war out there, hesitate and you die.

The specific situation is less important than the general sense that you should shoot first because it is part of your social function to kill for the general welfare.

You should own an AR not because you need one, but because there’s an amorphous fear of Authority, and because people don’t want you to have one.

People become what they rehearse, and a lot of Americans tell themselves a story in which they will one day be Gun Heroes, because the world is filled with malicious violent people that deserve instant justice, and there’s a social order that has to guarded by constant vigilance directed towards the other. And because they’re Gun Heroes in Waiting (and Temporarily Embarassed Millionaires) they can’t ever be unreasonable or wrong.

Or merciful.

These assholes told themselves a story, and a necessary part of their Let’s Pretend was that a black man had to give them deference…treat them as the equivalent of the law, never question their authority as Gun Heroes…or die. But there are institutions and thousands of individuals that agree with premise: these men had the right to pursue and threaten another person: they cannot be wrong, so retrospectively Mr. Aubrey had to be guilty enough, just as dozens of other men have been guilty enough.

This isn’t the exceptional case, this is the natural consequence of the culture that’s been constructed for them. That the cops took them at their words, did nothing until this video came out, is a representation of how deeply this is embedded in our society.

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Thanos  May 9, 2020 • 12:36:58pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

Generally speaking it’s not a good idea to propagate your opponent’s fundraising links. Even though nobody here is likely to hit it, every link to it helps it rise through SEO in the search engines.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 9, 2020 • 12:37:11pm

re: #80 ckkatz

I guess, as the old saying goes, ‘You can lead a father to an inherited truck, but you can’t make him drive it’. Or something like that.

And ouch on the collision! I trust that you were not badly hurt. As I recall, seatbelts were in most vehicles by 1991.

It was a 4-car collision; my truck was the first hit, then we pushed the lady in front of us into the ditch across the road, and the minivan at the front spun into a guardrail a couple hundred yards down the road. The worst injury was a boy who was thrown from the van with no seat belt, with a broken leg; I had severe whiplash, some lacerations from broken glass, and a gash on my nose from faceplanting the steering wheel, but everybody else was fine. The truck driver was adjusting his radio and not paying attention; I saw him coming, which probably contributed to my whiplash/soreness, and has given me a bit of PTSD when it comes to oncoming drivers in my mirror.

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ckkatz  May 9, 2020 • 12:38:42pm

Here’s what the article said about the paper the Administration was pushing. And that assumes that the Administration was even telling the truth, let alone the complete truth.

“But the paper itself has not yet been released for review, making it difficult for independent experts to comment on how robust its methodology was.”

…

“Bryan shared a slide summarizing major findings of the experiment that was carried out at the National Biodefense Analysis and Countermeasures Center in Maryland.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 9, 2020 • 12:38:54pm

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And before you ask about “faceplanting the steering wheel”, yes, it had seat belts, but the impact physically moved the driver’s seat forward several inches; the oncoming truck’s bumper missed my head by less than a foot.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 9, 2020 • 12:39:27pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate

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Good. Encourage your friends to follow your example.

Sounds fine with me! One less asshole in the world!

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Targetpractice  May 9, 2020 • 12:44:57pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If one’s attitude before SC was any variation of “BEND THE KNEE!!!”, then they can kiss my pale white ass. You don’t get to lecture me about “political power” or how “wrong” it is to receive criticism for third party/write-in votes when you know that it is not about exercising anything and everything about bitterness that your unicorn lost…again.

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plansbandc  May 9, 2020 • 12:45:59pm
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danarchy  May 9, 2020 • 12:47:07pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, how well did that idea work during summer season in the Southern Hemisphere?

Comparatively, southern hemisphere has fared much better than the northern counterparts. There are fears they will see increased spread going into their winter.

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Citizen K  May 9, 2020 • 12:47:23pm

re: #84 ckkatz

Here’s what the article said about the paper the Administration was pushing. And that assumes that the Administration was even telling the truth, let alone the complete truth.

“But the paper itself has not yet been released for review, making it difficult for independent experts to comment on how robust its methodology was.”

…

“Bryan shared a slide summarizing major findings of the experiment that was carried out at the National Biodefense Analysis and Countermeasures Center in Maryland.”

Yeah, that’s the most suspicious part. Also, it would not explain how Florida, a place that has been experiencing 80-90 degree weather for the last few weeks or so, is seeing a marked rise in confirmed COVID cases and deaths, even with the notably opaque reporting of COVID-related stats by the state authorities.

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ckkatz  May 9, 2020 • 12:50:56pm

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It was a 4-car collision; my truck was the first hit, then we pushed the lady in front of us into the ditch across the road, and the minivan at the front spun into a guardrail a couple hundred yards down the road. The worst injury was a boy who was thrown from the van with no seat belt, with a broken leg; I had severe whiplash, some lacerations from broken glass, and a gash on my nose from faceplanting the steering wheel, but everybody else was fine. The truck driver was adjusting his radio and not paying attention; I saw him coming, which probably contributed to my whiplash/soreness, and has given me a bit of PTSD when it comes to oncoming drivers in my mirror.

Ouch!

Sounds like it was a good thing to have been in a truck when you got hit. I suspect that the dumptruck driver is no longer a commercial driver. And yes, getting thrown from a vehicle because of not wearing a seatbelt is almost always a lot worse than just wearing that seatbelt.

I saw the results of a number of pre-seatbelt accidents. They were gruesome. Seatbelts are a good thing.

I had a friend who rides a motorcycle. Some years ago, he was saying that one day he was on his motorcycle waiting for a red light behind a car . And very carefully watching behind him.

He said that he a car approaching that did not look like it was going to stop. So he quickly moved himself and his motorcycle to the shoulder.

Sure enough the car did not stop and hit the stopped car at the light.

He said that the driver of the stopped car that had been rear-ended got out of her car crying. Apparently she had known that there was a motorcyclist behind her. No longer seeing it, she had assumed that he had been crushed by the oncoming car.

So you are very wise to watch those behind you carefully.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2020 • 12:55:56pm

re: #82 Thanos

Generally speaking it’s not a good idea to propagate your opponent’s fundraising links. Even though nobody here is likely to hit it, every link to it helps it rise through SEO in the search engines.

well, Charles can go ahead and trash it. I can’t do anything about it now

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ckkatz  May 9, 2020 • 1:01:22pm

re: #85 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And before you ask about “faceplanting the steering wheel”, yes, it had seat belts, but the impact physically moved the driver’s seat forward several inches; the oncoming truck’s bumper missed my head by less than a foot.

I was assuming that it was just the original waist restraint rather than the three-point waist and shoulder restraint we currently have.

I am certain that you know this, but until the current restraint system, faceplants on steering wheels and dashboards were fairly common. Which was still an improvement over impalement on the steering column, going through the windshield, or just bouncing around the inside of a vehicle at high speed.

And yes, the height difference between a commercial truck bumper and a ‘civilian’ vehicle bumper was an issue for many years. Add the weight of a loaded dump truck and you are one tough individual to have survived that collision.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2020 • 1:08:01pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate

Good. Encourage your friends to follow your example.

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sagehen  May 9, 2020 • 1:59:59pm

re: #88 plansbandc

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sorry, but if I’m buying enough groceries to need the cart to carry all the bags to my car… I ain’t walking back to the store.

I do push it to the between front ends space of the row, to get it out of other drivers’ way, but I generally assume the market has a guy who comes through the lot every few hours to collect all the carts people have left.

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Thanos  May 9, 2020 • 2:20:03pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, Charles can go ahead and trash it. I can’t do anything about it now

NP friend, it’s just a habit we all have - half of the RW’s noise machine power comes from us progressives rubbernecking because we can’t believe that shit they are sayin’ … :)

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Eventual Carrion  May 10, 2020 • 5:42:03am

re: #75 plansbandc

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His Levi’s.


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