Seth Meyers: Trump Leaves Hospital, Says “Don’t Be Afraid of COVID”
Seth takes a closer look at Trump and a bunch of high-ranking Republican officials testing positive for the coronavirus, putting an untold number of people at risk.
Seth takes a closer look at Trump and a bunch of high-ranking Republican officials testing positive for the coronavirus, putting an untold number of people at risk.
That most undemocratic institution, “the Lords”, fight back against BoJo’s Trump-esque attempt to separate families:
Lords defy government over refugee children’s right to family reunion
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Speaking after the vote, Lord Dubs said: “Families should be together. The government defeat today demonstrates the strength of feeling that we should not abandon our humanity and compassion by removing the right of children to be reunited with relatives here in the UK.
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Ironic that Pence now opposes a Wall that *actually* will protect people.🤣#COVIDIOT #GOPSuperSpreaders https://t.co/3V8LbHlp8Y
— Dr. Dena Grayson (@DrDenaGrayson) October 6, 2020
I just saw this - laughing still!!! pic.twitter.com/0BPSvhgNTK
— Aunt Titi #ResistersUnited (@Tracy_OFFdGRID) October 6, 2020
— Ed Mix (@TheEdMix) October 6, 2020
Part of me wants to see Trump do the next debate…and collapse on the stage after he flips out in a roid rage…
Who could have guessed that Brexit is problematic once again?
NHS faces drug shortages as Brexit stockpile used in Covid crisis
Hospitals could face shortages of drugs during the second wave of Covid because some of the medicines stockpiled for Brexit have already been used, NHS bosses have warned.
NHS Providers, which represents hospitals in England, said problems associated with Brexit could conjure a “perfect storm” of problems this winter that could undermine care, including flu, bad weather, workforce shortages, a resurgence of Covid and an epidemic of burnout among staff.
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re: #7 🌹UOJB!
Part of me wants to see Trump do the next debate…and collapse on the stage after he flips out in a roid rage…
That very well could happen. There’s no way he has bounced back from Covid-19 so quickly.
My company sent an email with these contents today:
Wolfe City-area employees urged to practice caution
Employees who live in the Wolfe City area are urged to be aware of peaceful protests and gatherings planned for that area this evening. Due to a large number of people attending from outside the area, traffic may be congested in some areas near the city.
Employees are asked to be aware of their surroundings at all time and to practice caution.
So, since trump is “better,” and is superhumanly strong and immune, no more of that bullshit sympathy for his fake ass.
Behold, my field of fvcks is barren.— BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan) October 6, 2020
re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus
Trump is now full of embryonic stem cells. Alert the evangelicals!
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And mice. Alert the cats!
re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus
Trump is now full of embryonic stem cells. Alert the evangelicals!
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And how will Evangelicals and Catholic Bishops respond to Trump getting embryonic stem cells?
It’s OK as long as he packs the court with radical Catholics who will force every pregnancy to term under penalty of death…
A message from the office of Matt Gaetz pic.twitter.com/Df2VOlnEtB
— blaire erskine (@blaireerskine) October 5, 2020
don’t anyone get shocked if he’s on a ventilator tomorrow… all this bullshit posturing is stressing his body out and the internal stress that you go thru to try and present yourself with your breathing under control is exhausting. Think of it as if you’re trying to control an asthma attack which feeds off of your own internal stresses…
just like every other fucking thing he’s done, he’s going with his gut and unless his body miraculously responds to the medication, he’s gonna fuck himself over, its in his nature.
re: #16 piratedan
don’t anyone get shocked if he’s on a ventilator tomorrow… all this bullshit posturing is stressing his body out and the internal stress that you go thru to try and present yourself with your breathing under control is exhausting. Think of it as if you’re trying to control an asthma attack which feeds off of your own internal stresses…
just like every other fucking thing he’s done, he’s going with his gut and unless his body miraculously responds to the medication, he’s gonna fuck himself over, its in his nature.
A thing that has surprised and scared medical staff here in Sweden is how patients coming in with CoViD-19 are behaving like not that much is wrong despite being in so serious oxygen hunger they have to be put on oxygen or even on ventilators right away after coming in…
re: #16 piratedan
don’t anyone get shocked if he’s on a ventilator tomorrow… all this bullshit posturing is stressing his body out and the internal stress that you go thru to try and present yourself with your breathing under control is exhausting. Think of it as if you’re trying to control an asthma attack which feeds off of your own internal stresses…
just like every other fucking thing he’s done, he’s going with his gut and unless his body miraculously responds to the medication, he’s gonna fuck himself over, its in his nature.
Never stand between a fool and his fate.
I just watched that video of his arrival back at the White House. He was weaving like he chugged a pint of vodka on the ride over.
Better, my ass.
re: #16 piratedan
don’t anyone get shocked if he’s on a ventilator tomorrow… all this bullshit posturing is stressing his body out and the internal stress that you go thru to try and present yourself with your breathing under control is exhausting. Think of it as if you’re trying to control an asthma attack which feeds off of your own internal stresses…
just like every other fucking thing he’s done, he’s going with his gut and unless his body miraculously responds to the medication, he’s gonna fuck himself over, its in his nature.
If he keels over, it’s because someone in the White House made him sick!
re: #20 stpaulbear
If he keels over, it’s because someone in the
White HouseDeep State made him sick!
FTFY
re: #16 piratedan
I’m still convinced that he’s in dire shape, and he knows it. I also wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s dying.
re: #22 Ace Rothstein
I’m still convinced that he’s in dire shape, and he knows it. I also wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s dying.
I talked to a friend tonight who was a NYC EMS worker for 25 years. She said judging by the way he was breathing he’d better sleep sitting up tonight so he doesn’t drown.
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re: #23 makeitstop
Now that would be unfortunate if that happened.
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re: #22 Ace Rothstein
I’m still convinced that he’s in dire shape, and he knows it. I also wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s dying.
Where’s that damn Snoopy gif?
Off topic but the Packers look really good this year. Rodgers playing with a chip on his shoulder.
re: #29 TarHellion
And doing it without his best receiver in Davante Adams the last three games.
re: #29 TarHellion
Off topic but the Packers look really good this year. Rodgers playing with a chip on his shoulder.
Well… https://t.co/eVDcTsRsJJ
— Miss Aja (@brat2381) October 6, 2020
102-year-old woman who never missed a vote casts her mail-in ballot in full PPE
cbsnews.com
She’s not undecided.
re: #33 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I think he plead the fifth.
re: #23 makeitstop
I talked to a friend tonight who was a NYC EMS worker for 25 years. She said judging by the way he was breathing he’d better sleep sitting up tonight so he doesn’t drown.
It’s fun to speculate but diagnosing from a distance, when one has never examined the patient nor reviewed their records, is not likely to be an accurate evaluation, but then I am not a trained medical professional.
re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter
It’s fun to speculate but diagnosing from a distance, when one has never examined the patient nor reviewed their records, is not likely to be an accurate evaluation, but then I am not a trained medical professional.
But it feels good! 😈
Cleveland Browns: “There’s no team that could have a more humiliating season than we managed in 2017.”
Atlanta Falcons: “Hold our beers.”
re: #39 Targetpractice
Cleveland Browns: “There’s no team that could have a more humiliating season than we managed in 2017.”
Atlanta Falcons: “Hold our beers.”
Don’t forget the Jets.
re: #40 makeitstop
Don’t forget the Jets.
when you’re a Jet you’re the swingingest thing
little boy you’re a man, little man you’re a king
I forgot I had this screenshot of Mussolini’s granddaughter retweeting trump.
and vica versa pic.twitter.com/lQtmuQPFWy
— Ed Mix (@TheEdMix) October 6, 2020
Today https://t.co/eieyoZMP8U
— Gen Michael Hayden (@GenMhayden) October 6, 2020
re: #29 TarHellion
Off topic but the Packers look really good this year. Rodgers playing with a chip on his shoulder.
They finally have a coach who does more than rely on his arm too. Notice Dallas is going nowhere fast? A bad coach that everyone thinks is great… Snicker. Makes me happy to see it the Packers win and Dallas lose.
There’s a whole thing going on in the fevered brains of MAGA cretins that Trump’s plasma is going to contain the cure to COVID. They are literally saying Trump’s blood will save them. That’s how batshit this has gotten.
— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) October 6, 2020
‘I don’t care to listen to him anymore’: Coal miners turn their backs on Trump over failed promises https://t.co/1QXnAEjO77
— Ben Meiselas (@meiselasb) October 6, 2020
re: #47 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Don’t care to listen to him; still votes for him.
It’s hard to find any Elvin Bishop outside of “Fooled Around and Fell in Love”
re: #17 Teukka
A thing that has surprised and scared medical staff here in Sweden is how patients coming in with CoViD-19 are behaving like not that much is wrong despite being in so serious oxygen hunger they have to be put on oxygen or even on ventilators right away after coming in…
I recall reading something about that several weeks ago; people coming into hospitals and having to be put on oxygen ASAP because their blood oxygen levels were perilously low….and they were entirely unaware of it.
re: #46 jaunte
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The less-crazy (but no less stupid) ones are insisting that the consequences of his own actions are going to be a boon for his campaign, because he can go out and say “I know what people with Covid are suffering through!”
re: #50 Dr Lizardo
I recall reading something about that several weeks ago; people coming into hospitals and having to be put on oxygen ASAP because their blood oxygen levels were perilously low….and they were entirely unaware of it.
I think one doctor said he saw someone with an SpO2 of something ridiculous like 17% and could understand how the person was conscious.
A teacup cloud 😍 pic.twitter.com/ey3XgWuB1N
— 🐶 (@Cutemp4) October 5, 2020
re: #50 Dr Lizardo
I recall reading something about that several weeks ago; people coming into hospitals and having to be put on oxygen ASAP because their blood oxygen levels were perilously low….and they were entirely unaware of it.
re: #52 Jack Burton
I think one doctor said he saw someone with an SpO2 of something ridiculous like 17% and could understand how the person was conscious.
I believe the medical staff here said that they had patients happily texting and chatting away as they were rolled into the ICU…
re: #50 Dr Lizardo
You posted a video of people watching the Bee Gee’s for the first time. Have you seen the videos of people watching Bohemian Rhapsody for the first time? There are a bunch and they’re awesome!
And of course James O’Keefe’s smear of Ilhan Omar is falling apart like a piece of paper falling into a pool.
BREAKING: Liban Osman tells FOX 9 he was offered $10,000 by phony Project Veritas & James O’Keefe “insider” Omar Jamal to say he was collecting ballots for Rep. Ilhan Omar. https://t.co/HMnhq2UqAS
— Zachary Petrizzo (@ZTPetrizzo) October 6, 2020
re: #56 teleskiguy
And of course James O’Keefe’s smear of Ilhan Omar is falling apart like a piece of paper falling into a pool.
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He got off way too easy for the wiretapping attempt on Mary Landrieu. Need to find out who the fuck is funding this scam artist.
The Conway daughter strikes again. She says trump is wide off then they’re letting on
Hold on… pic.twitter.com/L7wDoWISk3
— 🌙🔮✨ (@SailorZZtar) October 5, 2020
re: #55 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
You posted a video of people watching the Bee Gee’s for the first time. Have you seen the videos of people watching Bohemian Rhapsody for the first time? There are a bunch and they’re awesome!
Yeah, I’ve seen many of those reaction videos as well. There’s also some great reaction videos of people hearing The Animals and their arrangement of “House of the Rising Sun” - one of the more frequent takes is their reaction to Eric Burdon’s voice. Usually followed by their astonishment that 1964 recording was done in one take (which is indeed truly amazing).
It’s like they’ve never met trump. 🙄
Republican senators hoped Trump could pretend to have learned a lesson from COVID-19. As if https://t.co/9PZChp1UiC
— Daily Kos (@dailykos) October 6, 2020
re: #22 Ace Rothstein
I’m still convinced that he’s in dire shape, and he knows it. I also wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s dying.
We’ll know he’s very sick if he passes on playing golf this weekend.
This never-before-seen Freddie Mercury music video was released to the public for the first time last year pic.twitter.com/XZ4nFZKQTc
— NowThis (@nowthisnews) October 6, 2020
Anybody check in on Rudy?
Is Christie on a respirator yet?
And what about Barr?
So, I’m seeing a lot of mention in Czech media about Trump being released from Walter Reed and getting back to the White House….but that’s also being followed up on with, “Uhh, yeah, Trump’s clearly having difficulty breathing, and that’s not a good sign, WTF is he thinking?”
I mean, Trump can receive a pretty solid level of care at the White House Medical Unit, which I’ve seen described as an “urgent care clinic with a crash cart” so that’s not particularly a huge worry….at least as long as Trump’s condition doesn’t deteriorate dramatically, in which case he’d need to be rushed back to Walter Reed.
But it’s obvious he’s still very sick, he’s contagious, and he’s hopped up on a potentially dangerous cocktail of drugs, some of which are still experimental (at least as far as COVID treatment goes). That’s why some Czech media commentators are asking “WTF is he thinking?”
re: #65 Dr Lizardo
So, I’m seeing a lot of mention in Czech media about Trump being released from Walter Reed and getting back to the White House….but that’s also being followed up on with, “Uhh, yeah, Trump’s clearly having difficulty breathing, and that’s not a good sign, WTF is he thinking?”
I mean, Trump can receive a pretty solid level of care at the White House Medical Unit, which I’ve seen described as an “urgent care clinic with a crash cart” so that’s not particularly a huge worry….at least as long as Trump’s condition doesn’t deteriorate dramatically, in which case he’d need to be rushed back to Walter Reed.
But it’s obvious he’s still very sick, he’s contagious, and he’s hopped up on a potentially dangerous cocktail of drugs, some of which are still experimental (at least as far as COVID treatment goes). That’s why some Czech media commentators are asking “WTF is he thinking?”
What if he thinking? “If I stay in the hospital any longer, people will start to think I’m sick!”
re: #66 Targetpractice
What if he thinking? “If I stay in the hospital any longer, people will start to think I’m sick!”
Yeah, it’s probably just as simple as that, and for Trump, being sick is an intolerable sign of weakness.
re: #67 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, it’s probably just as simple as that, and for Trump, being sick is an intolerable sign of weakness.
It’s adjusting that trump and thinking ever goes into the same sentence.
re: #64 🌹UOJB!
Anybody check in on Rudy?
Is Christie on a respirator yet?And what about Barr?
Well, I see that Rudy coughed his way through an interview on FNC, so there’s that.
re: #54 Teukka
I believe the medical staff here said that they had patients happily texting and chatting away as they were rolled into the ICU…
Symptom of hypoxia?
As I noted earlier, “Build Back Better” is a most awkward campaign slogan to speak out loud. So I came up with some alternative slogans that lend themselves better to a chant… but as I reviewed them it seems some are problematic:
Bitten for Biden
Go Go Joe!
W.I.N. (Whip Idiocracy Now)
Ridin’ for Biden
Risin’ for Biden
Honest Old Joe
Biden or Blood!
“Ma, Ma, Where’s My Pa?”
Return to Normalcy
Biden and Harris are the Fairest!
and my favorite (though it is not chantable):
Because You’re Tired of Stupid
I imagine the conversation Sunday went something like this:
Trump: “So, what paperwork do I need to sign to get out of here tomorrow?”
Conley: “Mr. President, you’re in no condition to leave tomorrow. You could easily relapse at any time, we need to keep you here for several more days to ensure the drug regimen is working as intended.”
Trump: “I don’t think you understand, I don’t stay in hospitals. I hate hospitals. If you want to monitor me, you can do it back at the White House.”
Conley: “But Mr. President…”
Trump: “Look, either get me the documents I need to sign now or start looking for another job as a candy striper because you will never work as a doctor so long as I’m alive.”
Conley: “…I’ll have the nurses fetch the necessary forms, sir.”
re: #70 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con
Symptom of hypoxia?
“Happy hypoxia”….that’s what the story I read a few weeks ago called it.
#DemCast Judge rules Barr violated law in selecting law enforcement panel members https://t.co/xw5k2vxGp8
— still_resisting #TeamPelosi HandMarkedPaperBallots (@persistentpengn) October 6, 2020
Just reported on MSNBC: the CDC has been prohibited from doing contact tracing for any of the COVID infections at the White House or Trump’s contacts.
— John Oberlin (@OMGno2trump) October 5, 2020
Continuing to hold the Presidential Protection Division and Uniformed Division Secret Service in my heart and prayers along with the White House butlers, housekeepers, ushers, chefs, electricians, florists, curators and everyone Trump and his staff blithely exposed to #covid19.
— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) October 5, 2020
Due to Trump I can’t hold myself in line…
re: #77 Belafon
Trump’s Thugs are stupid enough to block the CDC from tracing contacts of anyone who attended the Covid Party.
Good.
Actions have consequences. We’ll see a bunch of those right wing assholes keel over in the coming days and as far as I’m concerned they’re getting what they deserve.
I’m just waiting one someone, anyone to start dropping ads that show the following:
Covid Deaths
refusal to accept responsibility for them
no medical health care plan
no wall
no coal plants
administration officials arrested
Trump impeached but not convicted
nepotism
corruption
all aided and abetted by the GOP Senate, they could stop him, but they don’t, they won’t
VOTE THEM ALL OUT
re: #77 Belafon
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The usual mixed message from the Trump admin: “COVID is nothing to worry about…which is why we’re not going to worry about making sure people get care if they need it.”
One thing I’ve learned this weekend. The Secret Service is *really* pissed at Clownstick.
Anyone who still thinks he’s going to try to refuse to leave office when he loses, the USSS is not going to help him.
Ugh.
Claudia Conway put this on Tik Tok (now deleted).
Claudia Conway was forced to take down these Tik Toks by her abusive mother Kellyanne Conway 1/2: pic.twitter.com/EiMnoXHtVg
— Ash (@tudorera) October 6, 2020
Some time later her mother posted this to Twitter.
Claudia & I are faring well in quarantine. Everyone else is negative
I had 3 tests on Friday: 1 negative (saliva) 1 pos (rapid), 1 pos (PCR, most accurate)
As soon as dr confirmed positive, I told my family & then went public pic.twitter.com/0NLDhiHrHo— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) October 6, 2020
That shit’s fucked up.
re: #84 teleskiguy
What is the Witch Queen of Angmar accusing her of lying about?
re: #86 Jack Burton
Claudia Conway posted earlier (I think on Twitter, or maybe it was TikTok) that Trump’s in really bad shape - much worse than what’s publicly known - and that the White House and Trumpworld is straight-up lying about his condition.
You can see in that stabilized video I posted (#75) that Trump is clearly in acute respiratory distress, so Claudia may not be exaggerating here.
For all the excitement on the far right over Laura Loomer’s congressional bid, this poll predicts she’s headed for a blowout defeat. https://t.co/1sTZjAKrqm
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 5, 2020
33% are fucking lunatics.
This… is actually plausible.
I mean, this is what I figure as soon as they said he was returning to the WH. They’ve spent the last 3 days upgrading a suite to take care of a COVID patient full time. https://t.co/IzH0HMCQQ6
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 6, 2020
re: #89 teleskiguy
tbf, it’s not as if the WH was ever really lacking medical facilities, I kind of get the impression the entire WR “excursion” was because of his rapidly deteriorating condition and they didn’t want an ambulance, land or air, showing him in a less than glorious fashion being wheeled out of the WH. Could they have trucked in additional equipment and staff, sure as hell, because who was left watching the WH?
re: #89 teleskiguy
This… is actually plausible.
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I’d actually say that’s an entirely plausible conspiracy theory; the White House Medical Unit is pretty damn well-equipped as it is, and it really wouldn’t take all that much to turn it into an impromptu ICU.
My personal belief is that the WH physicians worried that his could be in the middle of or in very serious danger of crashing and wanted to get him to WR while he was still able to move under his own power, rather than his being rushed over there in the dead of night on a stretcher.
Serious question…..let’s say the worst really does come to pass and Trump snuffs it. Has this thought crossed the minds of anyone in Trumpworld or is his bullshit “power of positive thinking” completely taken over everyone’s minds like some kind of brain-eating amoeba?
re: #93 Dr Lizardo
Serious question…..let’s say the worst really does come to pass and Trump snuffs it. Has this thought crossed the minds of anyone in Trumpworld or is his bullshit “power of positive thinking” completely taken over everyone’s minds like some kind of brain-eating amoeba?
Would be a real-life version of The Death of Stalin.
re: #94 Targetpractice
Would be a real-life version of The Death of Stalin.
So like this, but less funny….
So, I shared that video from my #75 with a student of mine who’s a nurse and her response was, “Wow, he’s struggling to breathe like advanced COPD patients I’ve seen. He needs to be on oxygen and should be under round the clock medical supervision.”
“Nothing to fear from Covid”
Over 200,000 Americans have nothing more to fear from Covid.
Thanks you for the inspiring words
re: #73 Targetpractice
I imagine the conversation Sunday went something like this:
Trump: “So, what paperwork do I need to sign to get out of here tomorrow?”
Conley: “Mr. President, you’re in no condition to leave tomorrow. You could easily relapse at any time, we need to keep you here for several more days to ensure the drug regimen is working as intended.”
Trump: “I don’t think you understand, I don’t stay in hospitals. I hate hospitals. If you want to monitor me, you can do it back at the White House.”
Conley: “But Mr. President…”
Trump: “Look, either get me the documents I need to sign now or start looking for another job as a candy striper because you will never work as a doctor so long as I’m alive.”
Conley: “…I’ll have the nurses fetch the necessary forms, sir.”
yeah like Trump gave a shit about paperwork//
Saw “I Am Legend” trending on twitter and wondered why, then I saw this:
You think 2020 has seen its biggest twist? Wait until Trump develops the anti-covid serum using his own antibodies like Will Smith in “I Am Legend,” and then wins 50 states.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 6, 2020
There’s just so much wrong with this, I have no clue where to begin.
One of the great shames of this Trump circus is that we can’t focus on the biggest opening for progressive policy change in a generation. If we win, this is the mandate—not just the end of Trump. https://t.co/SxVpl3cD30
— Heather McGhee (@hmcghee) October 6, 2020
“Nothing to Fear”
The condition known as “long Covid” is having a debilitating effect on people’s lives, and stories of being left exhausted after even a short walk are now common.
So far, the focus has been on saving lives during the pandemic, but there is now a growing recognition that people are facing long-term consequences of a Covid infection.
Yet even basic questions - such as why people get long Covid or whether everyone will fully recover - are riddled with uncertainty.
re: #100 Targetpractice
You think 2020 has seen its biggest twist? Wait until Trump develops the anti-covid serum using his own antibodies like Will Smith in “I Am Legend,” and then wins 50 states.
There is a great deal of Eeevil Genius thinking behind it, worthy of Wiley Coyote…
re: #100 Targetpractice
LOL imagine being this insane. 🤣
While we’ve all been focusing on the presidency, the Senate has moved out of toss-up range and Democrats are now nearly 2:1 favorites. A long way from a sure thing, but trending poorly for the GOP. https://t.co/eev4w6wba9
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 5, 2020
Texas police officer Shaun Lucas has been charged with murder for the shooting death of Jonathan Price, a Black man described as a hometown hero. According to witnesses, Price was trying to break up a fight at a gas station when police arrived, tased him and then shot him. pic.twitter.com/4IaULG5mYl
— ABC World News Now (@abcWNN) October 6, 2020
Biggest issue with Benny’s I Am Legend analogy? In every version but the theatrical cut of the ‘07 film (novel, prior films, and director’s cut of the Smith film), Robert Neville ends up being revealed as the villain by the end. The book title itself comes from his realization at the end that the new race of humanity that the virus has created sees him as a monster, a boogeyman who attacks and kills them while they sleep. And that they don’t care for his “cure” because they are quietly rebuilding society while he barricades himself in his home every night.
The other fly in the ointment is that a lot of Trump supporters are anti-vaxers.
But I guess they would make an exception for anything that has Trump Blood Cells in it.
re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The other fly in the ointment is that a lot of Trump supporters are anti-vaxers.
But I guess they would make an exception for anything that has Trump Blood Cells in it.
Hell, they still think he’s being totally honest that there will be a vaccine available by the end of the month to all Americans, even though most of them will subsequently refuse to actual get vaccinated because they’re convinced that it’s all a “hoax” and there’s nothing to fear from getting infected.
re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The other fly in the ointment is that a lot of Trump supporters are anti-vaxers.
But I guess they would make an exception for anything that has Trump Blood Cells in it.
You can already see Freepers dividing into pro- and con-CV19 vax groups.
Freepers are the canary-in-the-coal-mine for RWNJ trends. Some people probably think we serve that role for the center-left.
re: #108 Targetpractice
They really should have gone with the Director’s Cut ending - it’s more thematically in line with Matheson’s source novel.
It’s off the ground finally
The political news got a little tense, so I looked at the weather picture for a while.
Main engine cut off,
stage separation
stage 2 ignition
re: #116 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Max-Q
Vroom and no boom
Oh good. They did go to space today.
Mommy Dearest is getting snippy:
My daughter, Claudia, is beautiful & brilliant. She has access to top doctors & health care & lives comfortably
Like all of you, she speculates on social media
Yet she’s 15
You are adults
We have COVID, but it’s clear who’s really sick— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) October 6, 2020
re: #121 Targetpractice
Mommy Dearest is getting snippy:
a woman who based her career an alternative factuality
Due to the current tumultuous political landscape, this is too important not to share. 🔊
📹: Imgur user JebediahBeetus pic.twitter.com/xhnLKqkDnG— Paul Bronks (@SlenderSherbet) October 5, 2020
re: #121 Targetpractice
Mommy Dearest is getting snippy:
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BTW, this is my favorite video of you just DOOOOOUSING Bill with it ;) pic.twitter.com/q6X1FyPZwM
— Pauley Teeks (@PauleyTeeks) October 6, 2020
One good thing about dipshit leaving the hospital is that the patients at Walter Reed and the pediatric cancer hospital across the street won’t have to see or hear the Proud Boys and fan club shouting and being obnoxious anymore.
Good morning Lizards:
This isn’t him writing this:
Wow. Joe Biden just took a more Liberal position on Roe v. Wade than Elizabeth Warren at her highest. He also wants to PACK our great United States Supreme Court. This is what the Dems will do. Remember as they try changing positions before elections end. GET OUT AND VOTE!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 6, 2020
Low energy! Sad!
re: #126 b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)
Yeah, that’s someone, maybe a staffer or an intern, doing an imitation of Trump - and not a very good one, at that.
re: #126 b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)
And to add….it occurred to me just now that I wouldn’t put it past this bunch in Trumpworld to try to pull a Herman Cain, either. Trump could be on his damn deathbed and some staffer would still be sending out tweets that everything is fine, no need to worry, be back soon on the campaign trail, etc., etc.
re: #127 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, that’s someone, maybe a staffer or an intern, doing an imitation of Trump - and not a very good one, at that.
He is hard to imitate and get the feel of. I think to do it right you have to do a bunch of bath salts, work yourself into a rage, get on the keyboard and not look back before posting.
re: #128 Dr Lizardo
And to add….it occurred to me just now that I wouldn’t put it past this bunch in Trumpworld to try to pull a Herman Cain, either. Trump could be on his damn deathbed and some staffer would still be sending out tweets that everything is fine, no need to worry, be back soon on the campaign trail, etc., etc.
Start looking for recycled videos being posted as new…
re: #130 b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)
Start looking for recycled videos being posted as new…
LOL if those fools really think they can successfully hide something truly serious. This isn’t the era of Woodrow Wilson, not by a damn sight.
Uhm…wow:
BREAKING: New CNN poll has Biden leading Trump by 16 points nationally pic.twitter.com/6l3mZmDi1J
— Alli Hedges Maser (@AllisonLHedges) October 6, 2020
GET. OUT. THE. VOTE!!!
Round two is underway in Europe. We just haven’t left it and are still undertesting:
For the 1st time, the EU now exceeds the US for new confirmed covid cases pic.twitter.com/x0OMzPM8wc
— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) October 5, 2020
re: #132 Targetpractice
Good to see.
But vote anyway. Bury the GOP and send them into the political wilderness for at least a generation.
re: #134 Dr Lizardo
Good to see.
But vote anyway. Bury the GOP and send them into the political wilderness for at least a generation.
We are two points behind. In December we will know how important those two points are.
re: #133 Belafon
The EU has about 450 million people, the US about 330 million hence that graph is somewhat misleading. A better comparison would be cases per capita for the two groupings.
For me the best measurement on the effects of COVID-19 in terms of severe outcomes is the excess deaths figure for a given nation or group of nations in 2020 compared to an average death rate of previous years. The UK had recorded about 45,000 deaths from COVID-19, mostly during the first outbreak in the late spring and early summer but excess deaths were running about 60,000 or so. In the late summer the excess deaths curve came back down to the 5-year average. The US curve was indicating over 250,000 excess deaths a few weeks ago IIRC when the recorded fatal cases of COVID-19 was still below 200,000.
re: #133 Belafon
Round two is underway in Europe. We just haven’t left it and are still undertesting:
Even in Germany, people are getting careless and impatient.
UK is a mess…they are handling Covid with all the same consistency and competency as Brexit…
re: #133 Belafon
For the 1st time, the EU now exceeds the US for new confirmed covid cases
Yeah. It’s bad here.
But making comparisons between areas without taking population size into account is sloppy.
The US us currently at a weekly average of 133 cases/million, the EU at 98 cases/million.
re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Even in Germany, people are getting careless and impatient.
UK is a mess…they are handling Covid with all the same consistency and competency as Brexit…
Here in Czech Republic, not only are people getting careless and impatient, but now the anti-mask nonsense is starting to crop up too, not to mention conspiracy theories are flourishing all over the Czech web.
Yeah, cold and flu season (which peaks here in early January to late February) is gonna be a fucking nightmare.
The voter registration window is already closing in some states. Here in AL we have less than two weeks. (That’s on paper. The actual time is threatened by mail service and other outside forces.)
Here is the link to the national-level League of Women Voters online registration tool. Time for one last push.
re: #145 Belafon
Texas closed yesterday.
Perhaps Florida too, if I remember from the 2016 campaign. Time to shift to vote-by-mail education and preparing voting line life support.
re: #143 Belafon
I agree on the comparisons, but the fact that you even caught up in absolute numbers is not a good sign, and yet if we were doing the kind of testing we should be, I’m sure you would still be far behind.
The testing rate in the EU is miserable, even worse than the US.
I suspect the massive fall offs in both lines over the last week are due to late reporting of numbers. Or everybody has gone mad, which is also possible.
re: #144 jeffreyw
Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes…
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.
Nothing about plague though, well, if you ignore the human sacrifice bit.
I just realized that if you don’t have CV-19 you are not really in Trump’s inner circle.
Tomi is still trying to get in.
fellas, is it gay to survive a pandemic? https://t.co/PTGkJCEK4B pic.twitter.com/p9g3OfE3xZ
— molly conger (@socialistdogmom) October 6, 2020
re: #144 jeffreyw
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re: #144 jeffreyw
“You’re in our chair”
I’m sitting in my car trying to get ready to go to work and suddenly a squirrel comes down the middle of the street beside me. After about 30 seconds of it being in the middle of the road, I just jumped out and chased it into a yard.
re: #149 Ming5000
I just realized that if you don’t have CV-19 you are not really in Trump’s inner circle.
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I swear these assholes are self parodies.
re: #152 Belafon
I’m sitting in my car trying to get ready to go to work and suddenly a squirrel comes down the middle of the street beside me. After about 30 seconds of it being in the middle of the road, I just jumped out and chased it into a yard.
That squirrel was just a diversion. You never saw the squirrel scout/sniper team among the ferns.
Don’t worry. It was just a drill.
re: #149 Ming5000
can we talk about the weird violent masculinity in telling people not to “let” an infectious disease “dominate you”
they still cannot back down from the whole “masks are a sign of submission” thing…
Mother Theresa went into less infectious danger than current white house employees
They’re going to try to make him into a martyr if he dies. There’s a cult of personality around Trump like I’ve never seen around other presidents. And Trump encourages it.
re: #157 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
They’re going to try to make him into a martyr if he dies. There’s a cult of personality around Trump like I’ve never seen around other presidents. And Trump encourages it.
They are making him into a hero for surviving thus far.
Well, it is something that over 200,000 fellow Americans have failed to do…
Brexit is going to cost, even more so if BoJo continues to piss away what little time is left:
Japanese auto giants to ‘demand payback’ in event of no-deal Brexit
Two of Japan’s auto giants will ask the UK to pay them back for any additional custom charges levelled against their cars if it fails to agree a free trade deal with the EU.
The Nikkei reported that Toyota and Nissan will want payments to cover the extra 10 per cent of tax that will be levied against automobile imports from the UK should no agreement be reached.
[…]
Dear Trumpers,
Now you know why Donald Trump had you sign that liability waiver before you were allowed to enter one of his rally’s.— Don Winslow (@donwinslow) October 4, 2020
re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They are making him into a hero for surviving thus far.
Well, it is something that over 200,000 fellow Americans have failed to do…
It’s fucking obscene.
re: #161 dangerman
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I don’t know what the hell it’ll take for them to realize he’d sell them out for a Big Mac.
He listened to Trump and didn’t wear a mask. He died just before the president announced his COVID-19 diagnosis.
“We found out that Trump tested positive the day before my grandfather was cremated. It brought some anger into our hearts.”https://t.co/JFkdDdze6f— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 6, 2020
Trump is literally *personally* spreading a deadly disease around the country…and Lester Holt just had the gall to ask @JoeBiden if he regrets calling Trump a “clown.”
It’s 2016 all over again, except 210,000 dead Americans later. And some journalists are still playing games.— Kaivan Shroff (@KaivanShroff) October 6, 2020
re: #164 dangerman
This story is being repeated all over the country. And even more angering, even losing a loved one will not move more than a few of them from their support for this evil fuck.
This tweet achieves a rare trifecta: it is immoral (trivializing the 210k dead Americans), deadly (encouraging unsafe behavior going forward) and counterproductive (reinforcing the 3/5 majority of voters that consistently say Trump hasn’t taken the threat seriously enough). Rare! https://t.co/y0ZJPPeEw1
— Ronald Brownstein (@RonBrownstein) October 5, 2020
This one too
Flu season is coming up! Many people every year, sometimes over 100,000, and despite the Vaccine, die from the Flu. Are we going to close down our Country? No, we have learned to live with it, just like we are learning to live with Covid, in most populations far less lethal!!!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 6, 2020
re: #166 A Mom Anon
This story is being repeated all over the country. And even more angering, even losing a loved one will not move more than a few of them from their support for this evil fuck.
Biden looked into the camera at the first debate and asked who has an empty seat at the kitchen table due to the virus. It is a compelling issue. Americans are suffering more than necessary due to Trump and the GOP.
re: #168 Ming5000
Biden looked into the camera at the first debate and asked who has an empty seat at the kitchen table due to the virus. It is a compelling issue. Americans are suffering more than necessary due to Trump and the GOP.
And it’s something that the GOP isn’t just going to see voter amnesia over. This response is going to define them for years to come.
re: #167 dangerman
And, when Phil Klein of the Washington Examiner doesn’t like your republican talking point, you’ve truly screwed uphttps://t.co/bzqC2jZavG
— 𝙒𝘽 𝙔𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙜 🍕🐀😷 (@FormerDirtDart) October 6, 2020
re: #148 John Hughes
Nothing about plague though, well, if you ignore the human sacrifice bit.
re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
“Nothing to Fear”
The condition known as “long Covid” is having a debilitating effect on people’s lives, and stories of being left exhausted after even a short walk are now common.
So far, the focus has been on saving lives during the pandemic, but there is now a growing recognition that people are facing long-term consequences of a Covid infection.
Yet even basic questions - such as why people get long Covid or whether everyone will fully recover - are riddled with uncertainty.
You are one anecdata point
Your lone experience doesn’t change the stats
I and mine cannot get this
It’s not fear
It’s understanding the nature of reality and assessing risk
re: #172 dangerman
?!?
re: #150 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
The cat looks nonplussed by the presence of the dog.
That is her lap he’s crowding with his “where’s my momma?!” need for comforting. She took Katie to the groomer.
re: #121 Targetpractice
Look! An alternate statement!
Not sure what that means in kellyanne speak, though.— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) October 6, 2020
re: #81 piratedan
I’m just waiting one someone, anyone to start dropping ads that show the following:
Covid Deaths
refusal to accept responsibility for them
no medical health care plan
no wall
no coal plants
administration officials arrested
Trump impeached but not convicted
nepotism
corruptionall aided and abetted by the GOP Senate, they could stop him, but they don’t, they won’t
VOTE THEM ALL OUT
Lincoln Project has covered a lot of that ground, as has RVAT and VoteVets.
re: #176 makeitstop
Lincoln Project has covered a lot of that ground, as has RVAT and VoteVets.
This one in particular calls out Congress.
While working outside and listening to Maddow podcasts in reverse order, I heard about the Jacop Wohl and Jack Burkman felony charges coming out of Michigan.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel has charged Jacob Wohl, of California, and Jack Burkman, of Virgina, with four felonies in connection with the calls that went out in late August, to around 12,000 voters in Detroit.
The sad thing is that about 12,000 Michiganders got awful, racist, and voter suppressing robocalls.
The happy thing is:
Burkman, 54, and Wohl, 22, are each charged with:
• One count of election law - intimidating voters, a five-year felony;
• One count of conspiracy to commit an election law violation, a five-year felony;
• One count of using a computer to commit the crime of election law - intimidating voters, a seven-year felony; and
• Using a computer to commit the crime of conspiracy, a seven-year felony.
Serious changes and Dana Nessel does not eff around.
wwjnewsradio.radio.com
re: #180 Ming5000
Have arrest warrants been issued yet?
Idiots
Some of Trump’s supporters said they wouldn’t be swayed by the White House outbreak: Wearing a mask is a choice, and to mandate its use limits freedom, said Melissa Blundo, chairwoman of the “No Mask Nevada” PAC.
“I’m not saying the coronavirus isn’t real. I’m not saying that it isn’t a pandemic,” she said. “I believe tuberculosis could be called a pandemic when it kills a person every 21 seconds, but we haven’t shut down the entire world. I just find it interesting that we are taking this particular pandemic and shutting down economies.”
Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control show 8,920 cases of tuberculosis in 2019. In 2017, the most recent year it reported deaths, 515 died from the bacterial lung infection
re: #132 Targetpractice
Uhm…wow:
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GET. OUT. THE. VOTE!!!
If so, we must bear down harder than ever. An epic rout, the kind that will destroy the GOP and severely damage the theocrat right, is within our grasp.
On a darker note, it’s occurred to me that armed RW gangs (cosplay “militias,” gun-church vigilantes, MAGA groupies, etc.) may very well try to use force to stop the election if they become convinced of defeat or, especially, if Cheeto dies on or just before election day.
Russian-fed RW propaganda has already gone to some lengths to implant the stupid and wholly erroneous idea that an election can be postponed or cancelled altogether for sufficient reason. Their idea of “sufficient” is anything that seems like an “unfair” advantage for the other side, and what could be more unfair than a dead guy trying to run for office?
I won’t spell out how I think this should be dealt with, but I do think this is an area where the average RWNJ’s cartoonish view of the opposition will leave the gangs physically and psychologically un-prepared for the whirlwind they will reap.
re: #183 dangerman
Some of Trump’s supporters said they wouldn’t be swayed by the White House outbreak: Wearing a mask is a choice, and to mandate its use limits freedom, said Melissa Blundo, chairwoman of the “No Mask Nevada” PAC.
Being in the White House is a choice.
I guess you could say that going grocery shopping, working to make a living, attending a public school, etc., are all “choices” that FREE PEOPLE make and asking them to wear a Star of David, er, I mean a mask is dehumanizing and humiliating.
re: #181 Dr Lizardo
Have arrest warrants been issued yet?
I only know this:
The charges were filed Thursday n the 36th District Court in Detroit.
Arraignments are pending for both defendants.
re: #180 Ming5000
While working outside and listening to Maddow podcasts in reverse order, I heard about the Jacop Wohl and Jack Burkman felony charges coming out of Michigan.
The sad thing is that about 12,000 Michiganders got awful, racist, and voter suppressing robocalls.
The happy thing is:Serious changes and Dana Nessel does not eff around.
wwjnewsradio.radio.com
Also New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Illinois possible
State level charges, so don’t be sitting by the phone waiting for the pardon call
re: #178 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
This year really is only the beginning.
Yeah, Lincoln Project’s mission statement is not just to get rid of Trump, but also root out Trumpism. Tall order.
re: #187 dangerman
Also New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Illinois possible
State level charges, so don’t be sitting by the phone waiting for the pardon call
Also, in the call they actually used their own names. Staggering ego and/or ignorance on display.
Nessel said Wohl and Burkman had the gall to use their own names on the robocalls, targeting urban voters.
“I honestly think that they’ve gotten away with so many things for so long, they thought that no one would do anything, and they thought it wouldn’t matter,” Nessel told WWJ’s Sandra McNeill. “Why not advertise who’s out there trying to interfere with people’s right to vote?”
re: #188 makeitstop
Yeah, Lincoln Project’s mission statement is not just to get rid of Trump, but also root out Trumpism. Tall order.
I know a lot of us understandably don’t 100% trust them but they’re useful temporary allies. This is an unprecedented domestic political crisis.
Outstanding!
My glorious AF wife Kathryn helped with my latest campaign video. Whatever the polls say we have to stay calm and resolute in this fight, giving whatever time, money and power we can. Get active to get out the vote TODAY. https://t.co/JMq7rJIXuE #GOTV #createtheoutcome #VOTE pic.twitter.com/5K7DHjkWFo
— Mandy Patinkin (@PatinkinMandy) October 6, 2020
New Biden ads are showcasing Kamala right before the debate. Smart move. Kamala is relatively undefined compared to Joe and Trump. The more I learn about Harris the more I like.
re: #183 dangerman
Idiots
Lying idiots.
Edit: Also by my calculations, if a person dies of it every 21 seconds it takes 1,501,714 lives a year. What a crock of bullshit
re: #188 makeitstop
Yeah, Lincoln Project’s mission statement is not just to get rid of Trump, but also root out Trumpism. Tall order.
Trumpism will wither without trump. It won’t die, that will take time, but trump dying would be a start.
re: #191 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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re: #190 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I know a lot of us understandably don’t 100% trust them but they’re useful temporary allies. This is an unprecedented domestic political crisis.
In 1945 elements of the US and Soviet armies met at the Elbe. There was drinking and photo ops and drinking. Then they went their separate ways.
Someone on fark made a plausible point regarding his car ride:
The whole thing stunk of an addict. If you’ve worked in a hospital you’ve had to deal with an addict being a coont as they jones for what they really like. They are a special kind of horrible as patients. The car ride around the place was a chance to get high. Most people have to rely on friends sneaking it in. His behavior and desire to leave was so he could be back on his drug of choice. It’s just as possible this guy is high off what he wanted to get home too than what he left the hospital on. A lot of people joke about the drugs this guy is on. Sure would explain a lot.
re: #194 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Trumpism will wither without trump. It won’t die, that will take time, but trump dying would be a start.
Trumpism is just what we currently call it. This American hate cult has grown over the last two or three decades, and will persist as long as the media sources that create it do.
re: #198 Renaissance_Man
We used to call it the John Birch Society.
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump is trying to gin up his misogynistic base with lies about Biden and abortion.
Biden and Democrats just clarified the fact that they are fully in favor of (very) LATE TERM ABORTION, right up until the time of birth, and beyond - which would be execution. Biden even endorsed the Governor of Virginia, who stated this clearly for all to hear. GET OUT & VOTE!!!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 6, 2020
There’s no such thing as 9th month abortion; it’s called giving birth.If the fetus is stillborn, you are putting the mother in mortal peril of having to go through childbirth, so emergency measures can and should be taken to save the mother’s life.You’re lying again
— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) October 6, 2020
re: #198 Renaissance_Man
Trumpism is just what we currently call it. This American hate cult has grown over the last two or three decades, and will persist as long as the media sources that create it do.
Yeah: sadly, I agree more with this than, say, with #194: Donald Trump may have become a “cult figure” in our politics, but he is just the face and focus of the type of political movement which - when we discuss it in the context of other countries’ politics term “neofascist ultranationalism” - and it ain’t going to be going away, Trump or no Trump.
is that burning sage https://t.co/uP6upok8qo
— darth™ (@darth) October 6, 2020
Cop murdered a black man in Texas, and the Texas Rangers arrested and charged the cop with murder. It must be such an explicit case of homicide that they had no choice.
But this goes to a bigger pattern of excessive force and use of deadly force among cops nationwide. Cops use their guns far more than any other OECD countries, especially our peers in the EU. They have similar crime rates, but nowhere near the gun violence. They have similar homicide rates (without the gun violence). But cops there don’t kill people with the frequency they do here - and that goes to the heart of how policing in the US is so completely and utterly broken.
Thousands of Republicans are facing ruin, if not prison, if they lose their protector and enabler, Trump. They are desperate, wild animals backed into a corner. They are capable of anything. Stay calm, uphold the law and our time-honored Constitutional procedures, but be alert and prepared.
Everything Trumpworld says is a lie.
Trump campaign spokesman Hogan Gidley just claimed on Fox that Trump was “alone on the balcony outside” when he was maskless.
He was not alone. There was a photographer right behind him. He then walked inside, and there were at least two other people visible near him there. pic.twitter.com/HbG6PcdzNj— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 6, 2020
re: #205 lawhawk
Everything Trumpworld says is a lie.
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Was supposed to be Martin Short as Nathan Thurm.
re: #205 lawhawk
Everything Trumpworld says is a lie.
Trump campaign spokesman Hogan Gidley just claimed on Fox that Trump was “alone on the balcony outside” when he was maskless.
He was not alone. There was a photographer right behind him. He then walked inside, and there were at least two other people visible near him there.
Little people are not real.
re: #203 lawhawk
Cop murdered a black man in Texas, and the Texas Rangers arrested and charged the cop with murder. It must be such an explicit case of homicide that they had no choice.
But this goes to a bigger pattern of excessive force and use of deadly force among cops nationwide. Cops use their guns far more than any other OECD countries, especially our peers in the EU. They have similar crime rates, but nowhere near the gun violence. They have similar homicide rates (without the gun violence). But cops there don’t kill people with the frequency they do here - and that goes to the heart of how policing in the US is so completely and utterly broken.
The guy shot was also the town’s “black man.” He was that guy every white person could point to and say “Why can’t they all be like him.” His facebook posts were pro-police. Killing him suddenly made a small Texas town aware of what police would do.
re: #201 Jay C
Yeah: sadly, I agree more with this than, say, with #194: Donald Trump may have become a “cult figure” in our politics, but he is just the face and focus of the type of political movement which - when we discuss it in the context of other countries’ politics term “neofascist ultranationalism” - and it ain’t going to be going away, Trump or no Trump.
That said, trump is laying bare the idiocy of the right. I think, in the greater scheme of things, especially now with how he’s (not) dealing with COVID, this hurts them.
The bigger problem is dealing with the propaganda network. We have to address this structurally is Biden wins. We have to show consequences to thwart anyone from taking this path in the future.
We have to have the courage to do those things because next time they may not be as stupid as this gang of morons.
re: #205 lawhawk
Everything Trumpworld says is a lie.
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In their eyes he was alone because those aren’t people.
Ya know. The media as a whole should just bail from the WH. Everyone. Just let him be there all alone.
re: #208 Belafon
The guy shot was also the town’s “black man.” He was that guy every white person could point to and say “Why can’t they all be like him.” His facebook posts were pro-police. Killing him suddenly made a small Texas town aware of what police would do.
As in the James Byrd case in Jasper, the black victim had higher social status than the white killer. Raw and undiluted racism is certainly real and plays a role, but I suspect that relative social status also has a lot to do with how these cases are perceived and handled.
I’m predicting it now: Trump goes back to the Hospital within a week.
re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m predicting it now: Trump goes back to the Hospital within a week.
I’m hoping for a more permanent solution.
re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m predicting it now: Trump goes back to the Hospital within a week.
I’d be willing to wager that an impromptu ICU has been set up in the White House, so he won’t have to go back to Walter Reed.
Not quite yet.
Keep doing what you’re doing and let’s get that down to the always 27% of lunatics.— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) October 6, 2020
Please let them be voting for Biden.
Oh, look. Voters, by the mile.#vote https://t.co/0hKVCSgHak
— Connie Schultz (@ConnieSchultz) October 6, 2020
You can huff. You can puff.
And you can spread covid19 to everyone around you.
You are a public health menace.
You are a clear and present danger and a national security threat who has sickened a whole bunch of your advisers and US senators b/c none of you mask.— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) October 6, 2020
Down another percent today. I have to wonder what the floor is.
I hope Trumpy keeps digging.
re: #216 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
The best part of this is that, as Trump sees his numbers tank, he’s going to try to do more and more public appearances, just reinforcing that he doesn’t take the virus seriously.
re: #220 Kilroy was here
The problem with these sort of graphs, and statisticians always try to invent their own new way of making pictures, is that the reality is that the race is still fairly tight. Moving a tiny bit in a system which is rigged to help the person who gets the least votes, which is what the Electoral College has become, means that elections sit on a knife edge.
re: #220 Kilroy was here
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Down another percent today. I have to wonder what the floor is.
I hope Trumpy keeps digging.
I’m holding out for that 7 in 100 chance that Trump takes less than 100 EVs. I’ll settle for that 23 in 100 chance that Biden breaks 400. For some reason, round number thresholds seem important.
I live in Ham Co and have seen more Dem signs than I ever thought existed. Believed they spontaneously combusted upon crossing a county line. Crossing my fingers but not counting on a ding dang thing.
— Sara Ganey (@sarag229) October 6, 2020
re: #193 Eventual Carrion
Lying idiots.
Edit: Also by my calculations, if a person dies of it every 21 seconds it takes 1,501,714 lives a year. What a crock of bullshit
A total of 1.5 million people died from TB in 2018 (including 251 000 people with HIV). Worldwide, TB is one of the top 10 causes of death and the leading cause from a single infectious agent (above HIV/AIDS).
They’re not wrong about the numbers, they’re just wrong about the appropriate reaction.
We’re over 1 million deaths from COVID-19 in less than a year, there is no vaccination (there is one for Tuberculosis) there is no treatment (there are treatments for many cases of Tuberculosis) COVID-19 kills fast and COVID-19 is even more infectious that Tuberculosis.
re: #205 lawhawk
Everything Trumpworld says is a lie.
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Speaking of Trump’s balcony moment, I loved Patti LuPone’s tweet…
I still have the lung power and I wore less makeup. This revival is closing November 3rd. pic.twitter.com/vRQ4LepACv
— Patti LuPone (@PattiLuPone) October 6, 2020
And I loved it even more when I read this:
In his 2004 book, “Trump: Think Like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know About Success, Real Estate, and Life,” Trump wrote, “My favorite Broadway show is ‘Evita’ by Andrew Lloyd Webber, starring Patti LuPone. I saw it six times, mostly with Ivana,” his first wife.
Made the burn even hotter.
re: #225 John Hughes
They’re not wrong about the numbers, they’re just wrong about the appropriate reaction.
We’re over 1 million deaths from COVID-19 in less than a year, there is no vaccination (there is one for Tuberculosis) there is no treatment (there are treatments for many cases of Tuberculosis) COVID-19 kills fast and COVID-19 is even more infectious that Tuberculosis.
Also, we don’t have decades of experience treating Covid-19.
re: #218 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Please let them be voting for Biden.
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re: #217 The Pie Overlord!
THOSE INFECTED PEOPLE ARE AT AN AIRPORT!!!!
To recover wife from Denver, I drove 300 miles to an airport that had a direct flight—1 plane, 2 airports. It’s still one of the most risky things to do, but we watched the (unreliable) numbers and figured it is going to get worse from this point.
Fox & Friends scrambles to defend Trump for returning to the White House while potentially contagious with COVID-19 https://t.co/Gcty7vERTV
— Media Matters (@mmfa) October 6, 2020
re: #221 Belafon
The best part of this is that, as Trump sees his numbers tank, he’s going to try to do more and more public appearances, just reinforcing that he doesn’t take the virus seriously.
Which will further exacerbate his condition putting him in ever greater peril.
re: #230 Decatur Deb
To recover wife from Denver, I drove 300 miles to an airport that had a direct flight—1 plane, 2 airports. It’s still one of the most risky thing to do, but we watched the (unreliable) numbers and figured it is going to get worse from this point.
Please be well and safe!
re: #233 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Please be well and safe!
We’re in Day 9 of our hard lockdown, probably out of the woods.
Today’s MIT class at 11:30 - Target cells and the innate response - if anyone is interested.
re: #215 Dr Lizardo
I’d be willing to wager that an impromptu ICU has been set up in the White House, so he won’t have to go back to Walter Reed.
But if they don’t have a ECMO at the White House if/when he needs it, he’ll be SOL because they will have no chocie but to send him to a place where an ECMO is available - and in the process, destroy Trump’s illusion that he’s invincible.
Trump’s military physicians are in a bind - who do they swear allegiance to - The Constitution, or Hippocrates?
re: #218 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Please let them be voting for Biden.
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For what it’s worth:
Exclusive: Private contractors hired by Moderna to recruit volunteers for its coronavirus vaccine trial failed to enroll enough Black, Latino and Native American participants to determine how well the vaccine works in these populations https://t.co/NJiKHTAHqS by @JDSteenhuysen
— Reuters (@Reuters) October 6, 2020
Persons of color have been among the hardest hit by covid19. And yet they’re not getting enough persons of color to test new vaccines.
re: #236 Eric The Fruit Bat
But if they don’t have a ECMO at the White House if/when he needs it, he’ll be SOL because they will have no chocie but to send him to a place where an ECMO is available - and in the process, destroy Trump’s illusion that he’s invincible.
Trump’s military physicians are in a bind - who do they swear allegiance to - The Constitution, or Hippocrates?
I think the answer had been on full display in all the WR pressers.
re: #236 Eric The Fruit Bat
I wonder if they could set that up in the White House Medical Unit? But like you said, if it’s not there when he needs it, yeah…..he’s SOL.
Bigly SOL.
re: #237 BeachDem
For what it’s worth:
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What was Hamilton county? Can you get that?
Chris Christie said it was scary. I guess @realDonaldTrump thinks he’s weak. https://t.co/LJtWnmriXe
— Joe Lockhart (@joelockhart) October 6, 2020
The Crazy Train still runs both ways but the heaviest traffic seems to be on the right.
“Prophetess” Kat Kerr declares that 1,000 “special ops angels” have been dispatched from Heaven to ensure that Trump is reelected. https://t.co/bvuHGSsBhV pic.twitter.com/2RzqwGZ6KF
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 6, 2020
re: #242 BeachDem
Your wish is my command:
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Thank you!! That fly’s in the face of that prior statement.
re: #166 A Mom Anon
This story is being repeated all over the country. And even more angering, even losing a loved one will not move more than a few of them from their support for this evil fuck.
No different than the NRA fanatics: remember the stories of a 2 year old or other young child grabbing a gun and killing themselves or sibling or parent and the family response? it was an act of G-d, not that the family addiction to weaponry might have played the key role in the tragedy.
re: #244 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
1. This lady has no clue (spiritually speaking) about what Angels actually do.
2. God does not need special ops, he’s kind of all-powerful
re: #240 Dr Lizardo
Bigly SOL.
And being ECMO’ed for treating COVID19 rate is well under 50% of being successfully weaned off the device.
re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg
1. This lady has no clue (spiritually speaking) about what Angels actually do.
2. God does need special ops, he’s kind of all-powerful
And if Trump buys the farm, what’s she gonna say? “God called him home” or something?
re: #218 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Video instead of stills
Folks! The polls just opened in Franklin County, Ohio and this is the line to early vote👀 pic.twitter.com/noBma9NBSs
— Anna Brichacek (@AnnaBrichacek) October 6, 2020
Brilliant!!
— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) October 6, 2020
re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Thank you!! That fly’s in the face of that prior statement.
And just for giggles, from Connie’s thread about Toledo:
Same in Toledo! pic.twitter.com/mX1YGMikws
— Betsy and the Boys (@BetsyAndTheBoys) October 6, 2020
re: #243 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Christie is still early into all this - because of the early testing and catching his infection early. He also checked himself into the hospital which suggests more serious than he’s willing to let on.
That he isn’t coughing isn’t a sign of anything. This can also affect your heart and other organs.
re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Thank you!! That fly’s in the face of that prior statement.
They were talking about Hamilton county in Indiana—I put up Hamilton county, Ohio.
re: #255 BeachDem
They were talking about Hamilton county in Indiana—I put up Hamilton county, Ohio.
Shit. My bad.
re: #256 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Shit. My bad.
No, MY bad—here’s Hamilton County IN (I like the Ohio version better—and we definitely have a better chance of getting Ohio, so—GO BUCKEYES!)
re: #238 lawhawk
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Persons of color have been among the hardest hit by covid19. And yet they’re not getting enough persons of color to test new vaccines.
To be fair, this may have something to do with their distrust of medical services and what they might be up to here.
Death cult https://t.co/sOG8BDLgHT
— Molly Jong-Fast🏡 (@MollyJongFast) October 6, 2020
re: #259 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con
To be fair, this may have something to do with their distrust of medical services and what they might be up to here.
Yeah, Tuskegee and VD come to mind.
re: #252 BeachDem
And just for giggles, from Connie’s thread about Toledo:
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Here’s what’s happening at the Lucas County Board of Elections in Toledo from @EllieBuerk at @toledonews: https://t.co/cpuhOK15eO
— Karen Kasler (@karenkasler) October 6, 2020
re: #259 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con
To be fair, this may have something to do with their distrust of medical services and what they might be up to here.
Yeah, do one bad syphilis study and you find it hard to get subjects.
re: #218 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Please let them be voting for Biden.
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it is shocking, appalling, egregious, and whatever other synonyms you want to use that in 21st century america (some) people are intentionally forced to wait in virtually prohibitive long lines in order to vote
Oh, look. Voters, by the mile.#vote https://t.co/0hKVCSgHak
— Connie Schultz (@ConnieSchultz) October 6, 2020
re: #249 Dr Lizardo
And if Trump buys the farm, what’s she gonna say? “God called him home” or something?
Don’t know about her but the Q-balls will claim that he is still alive and still leading his crusade against pedophiles, cannibals and Democrats from his secret lair beneath the Branson airport.
re: #258 Decatur Deb
Now you’ve started something:
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Wow, and I thought my pathetic county was bad.
re: #188 makeitstop
Yeah, Lincoln Project’s mission statement is not just to get rid of Trump, but also root out Trumpism. Tall order.
That would involve dissecting the GOP
when twitter turns on him, it is et tu brute time
re: #250 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Video instead of stills
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effing egregious
re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Thank you!! That fly’s in the face of that prior statement.
BeachDem, the article was Hamilton county, IN, not Hamilton county OH (Cincinnati area). Could you post that one?
[edit] Nevermind!
re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
when twitter turns on him, it is et tu brute time
It’s a pretty lame form of “turning” on him, though.
“This tweet breaks our rules, but because of who’s sending it, we’re just going to whistle softly and walk away…”
My glorious AF wife Kathryn helped with my latest campaign video. Whatever the polls say we have to stay calm and resolute in this fight, giving whatever time, money and power we can. Get active to get out the vote TODAY. https://t.co/JMq7rJIXuE #GOTV #createtheoutcome #VOTE pic.twitter.com/5K7DHjkWFo
— Mandy Patinkin (@PatinkinMandy) October 6, 2020
re: #273 i(m)p(each)sos
It’s a pretty lame form of “turning” on him, though.
“This tweet breaks our rules, but because of who’s sending it, we’re just going to whistle softly and walk away…”
Trump will see it as a slap in the face.
re: #272 BlueSpotinAL
BeachDem, the article was Hamilton county, IN, not Hamilton county OH (Cincinnati area). Could you post that one?
re: #236 Eric The Fruit Bat
Trump’s military physicians are in a bind - who do they swear allegiance to - The Constitution, or Hippocrates?
I can’t really see many cases where Hippocrates and the Constitution would come into conflict.
But since they appear to have sworn allegiance to Der Führer that doesn’t really matter.
A+ grade Monmouth poll has Biden up +11 or +8 (two different models) in Pennsylvania. I looked at 538’s 2016 forecast, and Clinton had similar leads to Biden in the key Rustbelt states after the EW recording was released, but before the Comey letter. However this year there are few undecideds to swing, and Covid, not Emails, is the overwhelmingly dominant issue in this race. Truly bizarre, looking back 4 years, that a presidential race was dominated by the issue of compliance with State Department email protocols.
Someone do Rockwall County, TX’s election results, please.
re: #265 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Don’t know about her but the Q-balls will claim that he is still alive and still leading his crusade against pedophiles, cannibals and Democrats from his secret lair beneath the Branson airport.
Trump and JFK Jr.
No way to know for sure, but if the extensive wearing of masks is any indication, this could bode well for Dems in south by dog carolina.
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said COVID-19 can spread through virus lingering in the air, sometimes for hours, acknowledging concerns widely voiced by experts about airborne transmission of the virus https://t.co/3z8euQ1kX6 pic.twitter.com/4GEUi1P7ZF
— Reuters (@Reuters) October 6, 2020
re: #244 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
The Crazy Train still runs both ways but the heaviest traffic seems to be on the right.
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God has a Delta Force?
re: #264 dangerman
it is shocking, appalling, egregious, and whatever other synonyms you want to use that in 21st century america (some) people are intentionally forced to wait in virtually prohibitive long lines in order to vote
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Election reform is a key issue Congress must address next year.
re: #281 Belafon
Someone do Rockwall County, TX’s election results, please.
Sure you want to see it? Depressing.
re: #269 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
How Trump’s flu tweet now appears on Twitter
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Yes, Trump is deliberately downplaying the dangers of COVID, but he knows how harmful it really it. He’s lying, not deluded. He doesn’t care about how many die; every other ploy he’s tried this year to secure reelection has been failing so far (including his favorite of inciting civil unrest) so he’s returning to what worked for him before this year: the economy Uber Alles. The Woodward tapes have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he understands the truth but doesn’t care.
And his Sunday afternoon excursion is a metaphor for his shooting someone on 5th Avenue and not losing any voters, where the people being shot are the Secret Service agents protecting him.
re: #280 NO SMOCKING GUN!
A+ grade Monmouth poll has Biden up +11 or +8 (two different models) in Pennsylvania. I looked at 538’s 2016 forecast, and Clinton had similar leads to Biden in the key Rustbelt states after the EW recording was released, but before the Comey letter. However this year there are few undecideds to swing, and Covid, not Emails, is the overwhelmingly dominant issue in this race. Truly bizarre, looking back 4 years, that a presidential race was dominated by the issue of compliance with State Department email protocols.
i’ve been following this, summarized in the 10/5/20 electoral-vote.com post.
they have a separate page devoted to these graphs and just highlighted them on the front page yesterday
it’s a running of ‘solid’ states only
The five graphs above show the electoral votes for only the states that are solidly (≥5 point margin) for one candidate or the other. States that are, for example, 45 to 49, don’t count. The reason for looking only at “solid” states is that a lead of 5 or more points is (1) outside the margin of sampling error, and (2) much harder to whittle away than a lead of a point or two.
As you can see in the top graph, Biden was under 270 EVs until the beginning of May, then he has been above ever since. In contrast, in 2016, Hillary Clinton was over 270 until June, but when Donald Trump finally snagged the Republican nomination, she dropped under 270 for the rest of the campaign except for a short-lived campaign bump. After then-FBI Director James Comey announced that he had found more of her emails, she sank like a stone, as you can see in the graph.
….This year has been so tumultuous that comparisons with the past have to be taken with mucho sodium chloride. Nevertheless, Biden’s score in the solid states has been above 270 for 5 months, which is stronger than any candidate’s lead in any of the four previous elections.
re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That would involve dissecting the GOP
I’m good with that.
A rusty scalpel would be a nice added touch.
re: #191 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Outstanding!
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That ad is terrifying and adorable. I hope the Patinkins can get viral spread and maybe even some airtime.
Military aides handle phone calls for president, and do advance for trips. They’re a link between him and White House Military Office, which runs IT, food, transportation, valet services, medical unit, Navy Mess.
Valets, also active duty, serve food, act as personal assistants.— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) October 6, 2020
A Twitter spokesperson tells me that President Trump’s account was locked after he shared the NY Post columnist’s email address, and that to unlock his account, he had to agree to delete that tweet. https://t.co/pxgusFA2TS
— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) October 6, 2020
re: #296 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
More people to put on an editorial showing Trump pointing a Covid gun and say “I told you they’d let me shoot anyone.”
Pasture Greg Laurie is whining.
Greg, you politicized this by going to Trump’s Rose Garden presentation of Amy Coney Barrett. It is abundantly clear that you support Trump. Now DEAL with the fact that TRUMP has politicized COVID-19 and made it worse through his words and deeds.
— Dee *I am a Judges 4:21 woman* Holmes (@mmmirele) October 6, 2020
I would also tell you that the religious side of me is saying God has sent you a visceral warning about linking yourself up to worldly powers. My secular side is saying you getting COVID-19 is the direct result of ignoring factual medical & scientific evidence. Take your pick.
— Dee *I am a Judges 4:21 woman* Holmes (@mmmirele) October 6, 2020
re: #238 lawhawk
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Persons of color have been among the hardest hit by covid19. And yet they’re not getting enough persons of color to test new vaccines.
Is that because of some genetic reason making them more vulnerable? Or just because they live in more crowded homes, in environmentally damaged neighborhoods, and work in nursing homes, meat-packing plants, public transit, and other high-exposure kinds of jobs?
The economy is absolutely wrecked. You inherited a strong and stable economy with low unemployment. It’s so much worse thanks to your disastrous covid19 response.
The reason the economy will remain wrecked is because you and GOP don’t care how many die/get sick from covid19.— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) October 6, 2020
re: #252 BeachDem
Is this the first day of early voting in OH? I skipped first day in MN because I thought it might bring a lot more people out.
re: #193 Eventual Carrion
Lying idiots.
Edit: Also by my calculations, if a person dies of it every 21 seconds it takes 1,501,714 lives a year. What a crock of bullshit
According to the WHO 1.5 million people died globally in 2018 from tuberculosis
It’s worth noting that if not for Section 230, Twitter and other social media companies would probably have to take down a lot more of Trump’s content. pic.twitter.com/8AEjDUsTEC
— Scott Nover (@ScottNover) October 6, 2020
re: #302 lawhawk
Trump desperately wants to change the topic of conversation to something besides the Pandemic.
Good fucking luck, you orange shitweasel. You built this. Now we’re paying the price and every right to be vocally pissed at you for it.
Bombogenesis at work.
Hurricane Delta is now a category four after massive strengthening over past 24 hours.
1120 AM EDT UPDATE: NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft report that Hurricane #Delta has rapidly strengthened into a dangerous category 4 hurricane, with maximum sustained winds of 130 mph. More info: https://t.co/tW4KeGdBFb pic.twitter.com/3vxNAOAN0l
— National Hurricane Center (@NHC_Atlantic) October 6, 2020
re: #303 stpaulbear
Is this the first day of early voting in OH? I skipped first day in MN because I thought it might bring a lot more people out.
Correct—Tuesday, October 6 first day of early voting in Ohio.
Ours started yesterday here in SC—I haven’t gone yet. Fortunately, they opened a location about 10 minutes from my house, so if I go and it’s crowded, I’ll just go back another time.
re: #293 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Northwest Iowa, Steve King land:
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What’s the link for generating these charts?
re: #302 lawhawk
THREAD: Comments by Fed Chair Jay Powell Are worth noting.
Despite all the Fed has done to keep markets afloat, he is very clearly urging Congress and the White House to save the real economy.
🚨THIS IS A “The Economy Is In Trouble” RED FLAG 🚨— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) October 6, 2020
Powell said: “The burdens of the downturn have not been evenly shared. The initial job losses fell most heavily on lower-wage workers in service industries facing the public: job categories in which minorities & women are overrepresented.”
— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) October 6, 2020
(CONT’D) “Combined with the disproportionate effects of COVID on communities of color, & the overwhelming burden of childcare during quarantine & distance learning, which has fallen mostly on women, the pandemic is further widening divides in wealth & economic mobility.” -Powell
— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) October 6, 2020
re: #301 sagehen
Is that because of some genetic reason making them more vulnerable? Or just because they live in more crowded homes, in environmentally damaged neighborhoods, and work in nursing homes, meat-packing plants, public transit, and other high-exposure kinds of jobs?
Poverty plays havoc with your health.
re: #307 lawhawk
Bombogenesis at work.
Hurricane Delta is now a category four after massive strengthening over past 24 hours.
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Thankfully it’s supposed to lose a little a steam before it hits the U.S. , but this is 2020 so it probably be a Cat. 5 by then.
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re: #304 danarchy
But TB could be stopped, or greatly reduced, around the globe if all nations really tried. But some don’t do a good job. The WHO and private orgs have made progress.
Still, it’s a silly comparison, because we know what needs to be done wrt TB.
In the US we have few TB deaths because decades ago Americans were willing to fight it.
Today, the covidiots are willingly trying to spread their disease of choice.
re: #306 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump desperately wants to change the topic of conversation to something besides the Pandemic.
Good fucking luck, you orange shitweasel. You built this. Now we’re paying the price and every right to be vocally pissed at you for it.
Another reason why the theory that Trump was pretending to get sick is wrong.
re: #301 sagehen
Is that because of some genetic reason making them more vulnerable? Or just because they live in more crowded homes, in environmentally damaged neighborhoods, and work in nursing homes, meat-packing plants, public transit, and other high-exposure kinds of jobs?
For economic reasons, they are more likely to delay medical surveillance, leading to delayed self-quarantine/precautions, thus spread. Older persons already carry a burden of medical deficits from years of putting off preventive and timely care.
re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
A rather pedantic if important (and not just an old Bircher worry): the Fed is not an independent government agency.
It is an organization of banks.
By law it is chartered so the US government sets who runs it.
Which makes the Fed a bit unique, compared to other institutions in our society.
re: #313 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
But TB could be stopped, or greatly reduced, around the globe if all nations really tried. But some don’t do a good job. The WHO and private orgs have made progress.
Still, it’s a silly comparison, because we know what needs to be done wrt TB.
In the US we have few TB deaths because decades ago Americans were willing to fight it.
Today, the covidiots are willingly trying to spread their disease of choice.
I didn’t say the point they were making was good, just that the stat they used was indeed accurate. The fact that those deaths are concentrated in developing countries is proof we know how to control it if the will and money is there.
This person wins the internet today.
The Great Gaspy
— Stupid Sexy Flanders (@Sukitbackrow) October 6, 2020
re: #320 danarchy
I didn’t mean to imply you were silly.
It’s the Trumper covidiots who are so far out too lunch that they can’t even come to grips with why the US made the progress it did in the past wrt diseases.
re: #316 The Pie Overlord!
That’s not helpful.
Go to the site, pick a city or a county, the info will come up for that location. Scroll down about halfway and they have presidential election results.
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re: #312 Eclectic Cyborg
Thankfully it’s supposed to lose a little a steam before it hits the U.S. , but this is 2020 so it probably be a Cat. 5 by then.
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At last! Something to take my mind off Trump’s BS.
re: #321 makeitstop
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) October 6, 2020
re: #302 lawhawk
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The Fake News Media refuses to discuss how good the Economy and Stock Market, including JOBS under the Trump Administration, are doing. We will soon be in RECORD TERRITORY. All they want to discuss is COVID 19, where they won’t say it, but we beat the Dems all day long, also!!!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 6, 2020
The U.S. trade deficit rose 5.9% to $67.1 billion in August, the highest it has been since August 2006, the AP reports.
so a 14 year high
remember when trump was manic over the deficit and reducing it to like zero?
I’m assuming this is related to responses to their “ProudBoys tweet
Us watching the hatred and intolerance in our mentions.pic.twitter.com/Csic4ljpGT
— Canadian Forces in 🇺🇸 (@CAFinUS) October 6, 2020
Twitter users are flooding the #ProudBoys hashtag on social media with images of LGBTQI+ pride, displacing posts made by neo-Nazis and white supremacists using the tag https://t.co/uki91S9cwL pic.twitter.com/WEWV13rLhX
— Reuters (@Reuters) October 5, 2020
Anecdote regarding Chris Christie: Had a zoom get-together with some friends last night. One of them is an African-American artist, who, like most artists, needs a day job to survive. Among these jobs were part-time gigs as a bartender at various hotels and parties. In pre-Covid times, he was working at an event attended by Chris Christie. And Christie was spending his time bad-mouthing der Fuhrer. Not something he would do in public these days — but I wonder if, unlike Herman Cain, Covid will lead him to speak the truth.
re: #311 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Poverty plays havoc with your health.
Plus, the racism in health care means that even those with money can’t access the same resources.
wapo
Aaron Blake: “Over the last few days, Trump has offered what amounts to remarkable and dumbfounding double-down on his coronavirus messaging: downplaying it, having his doctors hide information, taking a joyride that could endanger the people riding in the car with him, demonstrably removing his mask upon returning to the White House, and sending a series of tweets urging people not to be ‘afraid’ of the virus and rekindling his long-abandoned comparisons to the flu.”
“The thing is, though: None of it was working before. And there’s precious little reason to believe it will now.”
re: #330 wrenchwench
Plus, the racism in health care means that even those with money can’t access the same resources.
Most notably the service available to First Nations. BIA and special ACA status doesn’t overcome the fact that the facilities just aren’t there.
the bulwark
Tim Miller: “Trump had a choice: he could have gone for the sympathy vote; he could have shown a flash of empathy. According to the NYT, some campaign staffers thought that if Trump recovered quickly and then appeared sympathetic to the public in how he talked about his own experience and that of millions of other Americans, he could have something of a political reset.’”
“In TrumpWorld, though, empathy is for cucks, so he opted for STRENGTH instead. Or at least the video version.”
“But as he stood there, maskless, breathing heavily, and about to enter a White house ravaged by the pandemic, Trump didn’t look strong. He looked reckless. He looked sick. He looked like a man whose presidency was in the last stages of decadence.”
The highest-ranking US military official to contract the virus to date… https://t.co/o6gKefvAjg
— paul mcleary (@paulmcleary) October 6, 2020
The remnant of Gamma is a low pressure system over the Yucatan, which you can see in the GIF. It is helping to pull Delta westward, which will allow Delta to enter the GoM on the western half, which is important because that is where the warm water is the deepest.
re: #311 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Poverty plays havoc with your health.
Yep — let’s not forget how poverty leads to much poorer diets, since healthy food is more costly. Poor diets lead to obesity and diabetes, also contributing factors to a bad response to COVID-19.
re: #336 Hecuba’s daughter
Also people in poverty are often less psychologically healthy, which can also lead to negative physical health effects.
re: #323 BeachDem
Go to the site, pick a city or a county, the info will come up for that location. Scroll down about halfway and they have presidential election results.
Here’s my county:
re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg
Also people in poverty are often less psychologically healthy, which can also lead to negative physical health effects.
There isn’t a lot of advantage to poverty, or else the rich would buy it up.
re: #316 The Pie Overlord!
seems like you have to scroll way down the city pages to find the political data. The data is there….
https://t.co/VbTAdpHNcT
For those of us not in the know…GO STORMY! #bebest— Jonathan Handyside (@handy_man70) October 6, 2020
re: #332 Decatur Deb
Most notably the service available to First Nations. BIA and special ACA status doesn’t overcome the fact that the facilities just aren’t there.
I went to school with a woman who became a doctor and went to work on a res in Arizona. Last I saw, she was working for the VA in DC. Her sister operated heavy machinery on construction sites.
re: #329 Hecuba’s daughter
Anecdote regarding Chris Christie: Had a zoom get-together with some friends last night. One of them is an African-American artist, who, like most artists, needs a day job to survive. Among these jobs were part-time gigs as a bartender at various hotels and parties. In pre-Covid times, he was working at an event attended by Chris Christie. And Christie was spending his time bad-mouthing der Fuhrer. Not something he would do in public these days — but I wonder if, unlike Herman Cain, Covid will lead him to speak the truth.
Maybe, if it doesn’t kill him.
NEW: Florida extends voter registration deadline to TUESDAY, OCT. 6 at 7 P.M. EST.
Find your state’s registration deadline and all the ways you can register here: https://t.co/U1cZetcmuO pic.twitter.com/FXkzYluTc2— Good Morning America (@GMA) October 6, 2020
I think more than anything else, it was the 3rd party votes that cost Hillary the election.
Might as well get covid19 like Trump than care about yourself, your family, your friends, or anyone else.
You and the GOP are a bunch of sociopaths who don’t care how many get sick or die from covid19.
This is why the economy remains wrecked.— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) October 6, 2020
re: #334 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
BREAKING: The top US general, Gen. Mark Milley and several members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are quarantining after a top Coast Guard official tested positive for coronavirus, several US defense officials tell @barbarastarrcnn
— CNN NationalSecurity (@NatSecCNN) October 6, 2020
re: #343 wrenchwench
I went to school with a woman who became a doctor and went to work on a res in Arizona. Last I saw, she was working for the VA in DC. Her sister operated heavy machinery on construction sites.
albusteve had a girlfriend in an NGO who was trying to put together a rough-terrain mobile clinic for your old area.
Welp, today’s MIT class was depressing. It looks like for those who’ve had it, immunity is fleeting. That’s very bad news.
re: #349 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Trump’s created a decapitation strike on the national command structure by having superspreader events at WH.
Now key JCS are quarantining to hopefully avoid covid19 and spreading it to others in their respective commands.
Trump’s been a disaster for our natsec.— lawhawk #maskingforafriend (@lawhawk) October 6, 2020
re: #347 The Pie Overlord!
I think more than anything else, it was the 3rd party votes that cost Hillary the election.
It was so close that any single deficit can be said to have done it. If only she had condemned Obama’s tan suit…
re: #350 Decatur Deb
albusteve had a girlfriend in an NGO who was trying to put together a rough-terrain mobile clinic for your old area.
albusteve had a girlfriend?!? /
There’s good people all over. We’ll get together.
JUST IN: Bomb squad responds to “suspicious devices” on Trump signs, finds anti-theft alarms https://t.co/VqwzCKIlBn pic.twitter.com/z2VQR1SFbO
— The Hill (@thehill) October 6, 2020
Hahahaha
This makes me happy.
Squirrel in Underpants Air Freshener https://t.co/ETuZwhUyQV pic.twitter.com/l7TCu5AiV3— Archie McPhee (@ArchieMcPhee) October 6, 2020
re: #339 Decatur Deb
There isn’t a lot of advantage to poverty, or else the rich would buy it up.
I learned two important things when I wasn’t doing well financially in my 20s:
1. Sometimes you need to get creative to survive.
2. Many of the systems and programs that could in theory help you are actually stacked the fuck against you. Do NOT count on them.
re: #354 wrenchwench
albusteve had a girlfriend?!? /
There’s good people all over. We’ll get together.
Yeah. We discussed her vehicle choice. His life was pretty much spent in the wrong end of the medical world.
PROJECT VERITAS EXPOSED: “Liban Osman says he was offered $10,000 to say he was collecting ballots for Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.”
The story @RepTimBurchett & Repubs irresponsibly amplified was BULLSHIT.
You owe a correction, TIM. @KnoxvilleHoller https://t.co/w8TforzTMQ— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) October 6, 2020
“There is not a single person in the United States — not the president and not anyone else — whose job description includes slandering women they sexually assaulted,” attorney Roberta Kaplan wrote in the opening salvo of a 45-page brief. @KlasfeldReports https://t.co/pkEYwPooGa
— JOSH RUSSELL (@jruss_jruss) October 6, 2020
Biden defines $400,000 a year as ‘wealthy.’ In big cities, it only makes you upper middle class https://t.co/Vi580d6Oey
— CNBC (@CNBC) October 6, 2020
re: #362 DodgerFan1988
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I FUCKING KNEW IT. If I see that representative again, I am going to DECK him. I’m sorry.
re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg
I learned two important things when I wasn’t doing well financially in my 20s:
1. Sometimes you need to get creative to survive.
2. Many of the systems and programs that could in theory help you are actually stacked the fuck against you. Do NOT count on them.
If Anymouse weren’t taking time off, he would have some words to address the way the system fails those in need, based on his personal experiences. Of course, at this time of the day, he’s probably napping!
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
And what’s wrong with Upper middle class exactly?
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Biden defines $400,000 a year as ‘wealthy.’ In big cities, it only makes you upper middle class
$400,000 is almost 10X the family income for my town, per BeachDem’s reference. So, yeah—that’s “wealthy”.
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
“Only” upper middle class. That’s pretty damn wealthy actually.
re: #366 Hecuba’s daughter
If Anymouse weren’t taking time off, he would have some words to address the way the system fails those in need, based on his personal experiences. Of course, at this time of the day, he’s probably napping!
One of my major gripes is that the income thresholds for some of the assistance programs are so stupidly low that you can be broke as fuck and still technically be making “too much money” to get help.
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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Funnily enough both the Jacobin left and far right have this same idiotic take.
re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg
One of my major gripes is that the income thresholds for some of the assistance programs are so stupidly low that you can be broke as fuck and still technically be making “too much money” to get help.
Because a lot of them were set decades ago, before inflation and a whole bunch of other global and domestic stuff happened, but the targets haven’t kept pace. The only ones that are meticulously maintained are the tax brackets, for obvious reasons.
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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— CNBC (@CNBC) October 6, 2020
cnbc needs to go to Atlantic City for that hair-splitters’ convention.
$400,000 is awfully damn close to what the US government has paid me in total since I retired 18 years ago.
re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg
One of my major gripes is that the income thresholds for some of the assistance programs are so stupidly low that you can be broke as fuck and still technically be making “too much money” to get help.
feature not bug
just like today’s voting lines
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Boo freakin’ hoo.
Remember the ballots found in a river? Didn’t happen.
The military ballots in the trash? Not fraud.
Over and over, Trump and his allies hype allegations to create a cloud of suspicion and over and over they don’t hold up. https://t.co/3HHbiOy1A8— Philip Bump (@pbump) October 6, 2020
I realize Upper Middle Class doesn’t mean we could take half of the person’s net worth away and they wouldn’t notice, but it does mean that they generally don’t live in fear of not being able to eat or respond to an emergency.
re: #380 plansbandc
Bingeing “Halt and Catch Fire”. Really good.
Endorsed! And it takes some good turns in later seasons.
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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I get cost of living. But good dog, you can live VERY comfortably in ANY city at that annual income. So yeah, wealthy.
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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NYC is either 1st or 2nd highest cost-of-living city in the US; $63K is median household income.
It’s not a limos-momofuku-furs lifestyle, but it’s absolutely a decent apartment, plenty of food, nice clothes, and a vacation every year.
New Yorkers need to earn $143,794-a-year to be considered rich, according to a study of 42 major U.S. cities carried out by Business Insider.
re: #381 Belafon
I realize Upper Middle Class doesn’t mean we could take half of the person’s net worth away and they wouldn’t notice, but it does mean that they generally don’t live in fear of not being able to eat or respond to an emergency.
I have no desire to be a millionaire. I’ve always said I’d be happy if I had enough money to keep my bills paid on time each month, my house and car maintained and a little bit to sock away in savings.
Losers and suckers. https://t.co/CawWFU9Soc
— Schooley (@Rschooley) October 6, 2020
re: #381 Belafon
I realize Upper Middle Class doesn’t mean we could take half of the person’s net worth away and they wouldn’t notice, but it does mean that they generally don’t live in fear of not being able to eat or respond to an emergency.
You can spend a couple Sociology semesters defining the US “Middle Class”.
re: #385 Eclectic Cyborg
I have no desire to be a millionaire. I’ve always said I’d be happy if I had enough money to keep my bills paid on time each month, my house and car maintained and a little bit to sock away in savings.
I would be that millionaire who drives a beat-up POS car and owns a nondescript home on the edge of the suburbs. I have no need for a large lake home - who would clean the place? I have no need for fancy luxury cars or a bunch of expensive toys to flaunt my status. I just want to live comfortably and leave my children with a solid starting point and a mid-life boost as their inheritance.
re: #386 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
So Wheezy was taking HyC. He stopped. He got it.
HyC works!
(dances, makes O face)
re: #389 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I would be that millionaire who drives a beat-up POS car and owns a nondescript home on the edge of the suburbs. I have no need for a large lake home - who would clean the place? I have no need for fancy luxury cars or a bunch of expensive toys to flaunt my status. I just want to live comfortably and leave my children with a solid starting point and a mid-life boost as their inheritance.
I like the way you think.
I’d much prefer a modest home on a decent sized piece of property than a big ass mansion with 58 rooms.
re: #384 sagehen
It’s pretty much the same around here. The now century-long demand for ocean-front real estate has driven house prices so high that what is considered a good income in most of the US simply will not allow one to by the median house here.
And since typical houses on the west side of I-5 are priced at over $1M, anyone who lives there and owns their property outright is technically a “millionaire”. So some old couple in their eighties who bought their house back in the 1970’s are now on paper rich.
This is one thing that is going to be a very hard pill to swallow for many Americans: it’s not just the very wealthy’s taxes which need to go up.
Rare will be the politician who will point that out.
re: #392 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
It’s pretty much the same around here. The now century-long demand for ocean-front real estate has driven house prices so high that what is considered a good income in most of the US simply will not allow one to by the median house here.
And since typical houses on the west side of I-5 are priced at over $1M, anyone who lives there and owns their property outright is technically a “millionaire”. So some old couple in their eighties who bought their house back in the 1970’s are now on paper rich.
My grandmother lives in an old neighborhood in her city. It began as a working class neighborhood and is now more of an upper working class neighborhood. She lives in a bungalow less than 2000 sq ft. She could easily sell it for close to a $1 million now (her and Gramps paid I think less than $20 000 for it back in the early 50s). A somewhat larger home across the street is currently on the market for $2 million.
re: #389 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I would be that millionaire who drives a beat-up POS car and owns a nondescript home on the edge of the suburbs. I have no need for a large lake home - who would clean the place? I have no need for fancy luxury cars or a bunch of expensive toys to flaunt my status. I just want to live comfortably and leave my children with a solid starting point and a mid-life boost as their inheritance.
Lots of millionaires like that. My school likes talking to them.
re: #391 Eclectic Cyborg
I like the way you think.
I’d much prefer a modest home on a decent sized piece of property than a big ass mansion with 58 rooms.
one key to becoming wealth(ier) and staying there is to retain most of the humility and lifestyle thinking you had before
when we don’t have a lot we are more or less ‘forced’ to leverage our assets, if we are in fact able. house vs apartment, mortgages, car loans, etc. if the cash flow works
if you continue to leverage your finances to live at the peak of your assets*, you never ‘get rich’. you’ve got the same problems you had before, just with more zeros.
* multi cars, bigger and multi houses, multi vacations, boats, planes, lavish lifestyle, etc
re: #384 sagehen
I dunno, as “upper-bracket” as $400K/year might seem to a lot of folks in this country, there is a vague point to be made that Joe Biden actually putting numbers to a definition of “wealthy” might play (rightly or wrongly notwithstanding) into the stock Republican scare-mongering of “ZOMG!! The Dems are gonna raise yer taxes!!1!!!!11!”- even if it is unlikely to erode his/Democratic support in an important demographic very much, it’s still sort of a minor “own goal” to cite specific figures during an election campaign.
I’m reminded of the flap caused back in the Obama Admin when some guy in Chicago (Professor at UofC??) wrote some article in an online mag griping about how he and his wife and kids were barely able to keep up a minimally-acceptable lifestyle having to scrape by on the paltry $650,000 (?) annual salar(ies) their professional careers returned them. He got well and truly dragged for it as I recall, but IMO, politicians ought to keep mum about their proposed tax “brackets” until AFTER they’re elected.
Safer that way.
“Back to work! Feeling great!” pic.twitter.com/V38feLqNiv
— Zach Braff (@zachbraff) October 6, 2020
re: #368 Decatur Deb
$400,000 is almost 10X the family income for my town, per BeachDem’s reference. So, yeah—that’s “wealthy”.
According to the article, 1.8% of Amricans have that high an income.
Pretty much the very definition of wealthy.
re: #399 sagehen
According to the article, 1.8% of Amricans have that high an income.
Pretty much the very definition of wealthy.
We are the 98.2%.
And that is why Trump finds fertile ground in fly-over country - there is a seething resentment against the major population centers.
I say that because I have relatives in places who exhibit that behavior. They hate California, New York, etc. Not for any rational reasons. It’s their target to pour out their anger.
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Vast swaths of this country are rural areas where one can by an early 20th century house (in probably not the best of condition) for less than one can buy a new luxury-brand car.
So yes, $400k is a lot of money in a great portion of this country.
Not so much in SoCal glitterati neighborhoods, though.
re: #385 Eclectic Cyborg
I have no desire to be a millionaire. I’ve always said I’d be happy if I had enough money to keep my bills paid on time each month, my house and car maintained and a little bit to sock away in savings.
When I was a kid, “millionaire” meant a net worth of a million.
Apparently today, it means an annual income over a million.
I was going to make a Page on the latest Property Brother’s Brother versus Brother season, soon to conclude.
They decided to compete this time in Drew’s own neighborhood. Which happens to be a famous historic district in downtown Los Angeles. And the houses cost millions of dollars.
So all those folk who watch HGTV get to see these millionaire remodelers do the multi-million dollar houses.
It draws in viewers, of course. But it also once again illustrates the great divide between a small minority of Americans who are doing very well, and the great masses.
re: #401 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
When I moved into my apartment in 1987, houses in my section of Los Angeles were in the $500K range. The only way I could afford to buy a house is win the lotto.
Now those same houses are on the market for a minimum of $2 million…
re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
In a country with a median household income of $63,000 someone who gets , $400,000 is wealthy.
Not rich, but definitely wealthy.
re: #384 sagehen
NYC is either 1st or 2nd highest cost-of-living city in the US; $63K is median household income.
It’s not a limos-momofuku-furs lifestyle, but it’s absolutely a decent apartment, plenty of food, nice clothes, and a vacation every year.
New Yorkers need to earn $143,794-a-year to be considered rich, according to a study of 42 major U.S. cities carried out by Business Insider.
Study shows that New Yorkers think you need a net worth of $3.2 million to be wealthy. It would be challenging for $143,000 per year, especially if you have a family, to allow you to accumulate that much wealth when living in a high cost city like New York. OTOH, there is no objective definition of wealthy or upper middle class, especially based on surveys. Just because people think someone is wealthy doesn’t make them so. It’s a very ill-defined term.
In the early 80’s, my small office in downtown Chicago discussed what income was necessary to support a middle-class life-style; the wife of one of the partners (a highly intelligent woman who was unemployed at the time but was trained as an actuary and eventually became a CPA) thought you needed $125,000 — and that was over 35 years ago. At this point I don’t recall my guess, but it was definitely significantly lower.
re: #402 sagehen
When I was a kid, “millionaire” meant a net worth of a million.
Apparently today, it means an annual income over a million.
Well there was a time when if you had a million dollars you were set, you could put it in a CD or money market and live a pretty comfortable middle class life on the interest, not so much anymore. at less than 1% you’d be lucky to get 10 grand off of it.
re: #375 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
$400,000 is awfully damn close to what the US government has paid me in total since I retired 18 years ago.
Welfare queen.
re: #386 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
From that TPM article, this is Trump’s doctor who’s been giving us updated from WR.
same doctor who in May wrote that the potential benefits of hydroxychloroquine use for Trump outweighed “the relative risks,” was asked Sunday why he hadn’t given Trump hydroxychloroquine for his battle against the virus.
He said simply, “I’m not going to go into all of our debates about specific medicines and therapies.”
Any questions about where his loyalties lie?
It’s not with US.
re: #403 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
I was going to make a Page on the latest Property Brother’s Brother versus Brother season, soon to conclude.
They decided to compete this time in Drew’s own neighborhood. Which happens to be a famous historic district in downtown Los Angeles. And the houses cost millions of dollars.
So all those folk who watch HGTV get to see these millionaire remodelers do the multi-million dollar houses.
It draws in viewers, of course. But it also once again illustrates the great divide between a small minority of Americans who are doing very well, and the great masses.
We’ve watched a few episodes of that show. I was stunned to see the numbers they’re working with, even apart from what the houses cost to buy.
PropBros must be pulling in truckloads of money for that network.
re: #404 🌹UOJB!
When I moved into my apartment in 1987, houses in my section of Los Angeles were in the $500K range. The only way I could afford to buy a house is win the lotto.
Now those same houses are on the market for a minimum of $2 million…
When I changed duty stations from New Jersey to Ft Rucker, we ran into the world’s most honest real estate agent. She said the house was a great place to raise 4 kids, and that it wasn’t an investment—it would go up in value about 2% per year. She was right.
Doc Conley saw Doc Ronnie suck off Trump and get a Congressional nomination out of it. We’re not supposed to know the president’s personal physician this way.
Ugh, waiting for a package that I need to sign for, also need to run some errands. The package can arrive any time between now and 9pm. Do I chance it and run out for a half hour?
You know there’s a good lesson that I think future presidential candidates can learn from Biden. There’s such a thing as being too online in politics and Biden didn’t care what the online second guessers have said.
re: #389 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I would be that millionaire who drives a beat-up POS car and owns a nondescript home on the edge of the suburbs. I have no need for a large lake home - who would clean the place? I have no need for fancy luxury cars or a bunch of expensive toys to flaunt my status. I just want to live comfortably and leave my children with a solid starting point and a mid-life boost as their inheritance.
I am a millionaire (or was). My house is worth maybe €500,000, I bought a €200,000 flat for my daughter, I have a second home in Africa that cost me about €250,000, a car (also in Africa, don’t need one here) that cost €20,000.
My school fees for my daughter (in the Sorbonne) are €600 a year.
The most I ever earned in one year was €200,000. (Capital gains included).
Americans, even “wealthy” Americans are being ripped off by rich Americans.
re: #407 danarchy
Well there was a time when if you had a million dollars you were set, you could put it in a CD or money market and live a pretty comfortable middle class life on the interest, not so much anymore. at less than 1% you’d be lucky to get 10 grand off of it.
While in the 1950’s being a millionaire meant you were wealthy, the mathematical equivalent today would be about $10 million, based on the CPI over that time period.
re: #410 makeitstop
PropBros must be pulling in truckloads of money for that network.
They are basically the Wayfair front guys, full time advertisement for that company. They are also HGTV’s most successful stars, drawing in ratings year after year. So yes, the Scott brothers are doing fabulously.
In their current season (which really was started in 2018 but is only now being aired) they are working with renovations costing a couple of million dollars each.
Drew’s project house has been finished for some time, now. It’s on Zillow, and the local LA magazine did a feature on it a while back.
What the show has not revealed so far, though, is that the Scotts bought the property that is adjacent to Drew’s project, and they are trying to sell the two lots combined. Price is quite high.
Jonathan’s project is right next door to where Drew lives.
They advertise these two projects as being in the historic Hancock Park neighborhood. But when I put that in Zillow the map shows they are just outside that area (as also shown on Wikipedia), but still it is an expensive street. So the show doesn’t tell the whole truth. But “reality” shows never do.
‘Roid Rage
Did anyone get to see that absolute “Joke” of a Town Hall interview that Joe Biden did with Concast @NBCNews , hosted by Lester Holt? What a disgrace to our Country that FREE public airwaves can be used that way. All SOFTBALLS. A big FIX. Time should be paid by the corrupt DNC!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 6, 2020
re: #389 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I would be that millionaire who drives a beat-up POS car and owns a nondescript home on the edge of the suburbs. I have no need for a large lake home - who would clean the place? I have no need for fancy luxury cars or a bunch of expensive toys to flaunt my status. I just want to live comfortably and leave my children with a solid starting point and a mid-life boost as their inheritance.
I don’t want a huge home, but I would love to build a home that is completely wired, unlike my current house.
re: #411 Decatur Deb
When I changed duty stations from New Jersey to Ft Rucker, we ran into the world’s most honest real estate agent. She said the house was a great place to raise 4 kids, and that it wasn’t an investment—it would go up in value about 2% per year. She was right.
Amazing to see folks buy a house at an inflated value, tear it down and build a larger one, then they flip it. One house 3 blocks away was bought for $2 million 2 years ago, torn down, new larger McMansion built, back on market for…$4.5 million and sold…
re: #420 🌹UOJB!
Amazing to see folks buy a house at an inflated value, tear it down and build a larger one, then they flip it. One house 3 blocks away was bought for $2 million 2 years ago, torn down, new larger McMansion built, back on market for…$4.5 million and sold…
It’s the never ending quest to make more money.
But only the top few percent of American society can do such things at the prices you quoted.
re: #415 John Hughes
I am a millionaire (or was). My house is worth maybe €500,000, I bought a €200,000 flat for my daughter, I have a second home in Africa that cost me about €250,000, a car (also in Africa, don’t need one here) that cost €20,000.
My school fees for my daughter (in the Sorbonne) are €600 a year.
The most I ever earned in one year was €200,000. (Capital gains included).
Americans, even “wealthy” Americans are being ripped off by rich Americans.
i got my health (and mrs dm) so i have just about everything ;-)
re: #422 dangerman
i got my health (and mrs dm) so i have just about everything ;-)
And you have a place Yvette can call home in your yard. Perfection.
re: #418 The Pie Overlord!
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Abuse of the free public airwaves! HAHAHAHAHA!
re: #417 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
They are basically the Wayfair front guys, full time advertisement for that company.
I think pretty much all of the HGTV shows are pimping for Wayfair now. We watch ‘Home Town,’ and when they get to the staging part of the show they’re pretty much ordering right off of Wayfair’s site.
We stopped using Wayfair when we found out they supplied the office furniture for the ICE detention facilities, no that we spent much money with them anyways.
re: #422 dangerman
i got my health (and mrs dm) so i have just about everything ;-)
You’re right. The best day of my life was when Mrs Hughes started to get over the Corona and complained about my cooking.
re: #420 🌹UOJB!
Place just along the street from my front door in Edinburgh sold a while back for about 28 million quid. The purchasers didn’t get to tear it down since it’s a listed historical building but they did get permission to build about 30 flats, median price a million each, on the grounds as well as converting the original building into flats and other forms of accommodation.
re: #380 plansbandc
Bingeing “Halt and Catch Fire”. Really good.
We saw that and liked it, went on to Silicon Valley and have finished that. I think we liked SV slightly better. Casting around for the next binge.