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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:23:24pm
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piratedan  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:28:41pm

I don’t want Trump to leave…. I want him to stay…. to stand trial for his crimes.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:31:11pm

Trump says he’s going to leave the country if he loses.

That’s not quite accurate. Trump actually is showing intention to flee the US to avoid prosecution when he loses.

That’s what’s happening here. He’s so desperate to avoid prosecution for his felony conduct that he will say and do anything to avoid it. He will commit more crimes, conspire with foreign powers time and time again, utilize Russian propaganda and misinformation, and have his GOP buddies press on the levers of power to pack the courts with his right wing lunatic fringe to try and cover for Trump’s misconduct and malfeasance.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:32:26pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

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Earlier I was saying that I wanted Rush to stick around long enough to see Cheeto defeated at the polls. It won’t be a total loss if he does happen to check out early though. This close to the election, a lot of Evangelicals might be persuaded that it is a sign from God and they should sit this one out.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:33:41pm

re: #2 piratedan

I don’t want Trump to leave…. I want him to stay…. to stand trial for his crimes.

I will forgive his crimes if he finishes his life’s mission—the destruction of the Republican Party.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:38:53pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

Nope. I want ‘em all to pay the price. Prison time would be too good for Trump and his crime syndicate. I want the GOP driven from power. And I want to see the courts expanded to redress the wrongs the GOP inflicted by denying President Obama more than 100 judicial nominees, including Merrick Garland. The GOP shrank the courts to protect their minority rule. Now they’re packing the courts to do the same.

End the GOP here and now. Expand the courts. Expand the number of circuits. Expand Congress. Add DC and PR and Guam/American Samoa as states.

Get all of this done to expand representation for all Americans. And on top of that ambitious agenda, reinstate the VRA and VAWA.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:42:54pm
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Cheechako  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:43:40pm

re: #2 piratedan

I don’t want Trump to leave…. I want him to stay…. to stand trial for his crimes.

I think trump will not leave the US because who would want him? Just imagine the political and economic pressure that will be placed on any country who would accept him. Most countries don’t need this problem. As it is right now, I expect the new Biden administration (and Congress) to place enormous restrictions and sanctions on Russia for interfering in the current and previous elections. Payback time! Played right these sanctions just might bring down Putin.

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Semper Fi  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:47:50pm

re: #8 Cheechako

I think trump will not leave the US because who would want him? Just imagine the political and economic pressure that will be placed on any country who would accept him. Most countries don’t need this problem. As it is right now, I expect the new Biden administration (and Congress) to place enormous restrictions and sanctions on Russia for interfering in the current and previous elections. Payback time! Played right these sanctions just might bring down Putin.

Putin gone. What could be better?

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Semper Fi  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:50:59pm

re: #9 Semper Fi

Putin gone. What could be better?

Trump and Putin gone…*Drink*

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:51:59pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:52:33pm
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:53:17pm

“The indictment also says Xizhi Li owned and operated a casino in Guatemala City, Guatemala, which he used to launder money and provided him a place to meet drug traffickers.”

What a coincidence!

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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:54:50pm

Trump isn’t going anywhere. He’ll believe himself to be like Silvio Berlusconi, able to mount a political comeback in 2024. And with his cultish base, who in the GOP will be able to stop him? Cotton? Rafael? Nimrata?

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:55:20pm

re: #9 Semper Fi

Putin gone. What could be better?

I want the US to put The Fear into him first.

As much as I want vengeance for Trumpism, I want twice that for Putin. Take his money. Reduce his influence. Expose his corruption. Jail his sycophants in this country.

I want our government to fuck with him and impede him to the point where he’s dragged into the street by his own citizens. And what they do to him is none of my concern.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:57:26pm

re: #14 TarHellion

Trump isn’t going anywhere. He’ll believe himself to be like Silvio Berlusconi, able to mount a political comeback in 2024. And with his cultish base, who in the GOP will be able to stop him? Cotton? Rafael? Nimrata?

Think of the casualties.

As for Trump, he’ll be dead in a few years and I don’t care if he dies in a cell or a brothel.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 6:58:00pm

re: #15 makeitstop

Expose his corruption.

Russians really need to see how much he and his gang have stolen and moved out of their country.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:01:07pm

Florida shattered its opening day record for in-person early voting Monday, with at least 350,000 people casting ballots and election officials continuing to count statewide late into the night,” Politico reports

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:01:38pm

The Commission on Presidential Debates adopted new rules to mute microphones to allow Donald Trump and Joe Biden two minutes of uninterrupted time per segment, the AP reports.

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:02:21pm

re: #14 TarHellion

Trump isn’t going anywhere. He’ll believe himself to be like Silvio Berlusconi, able to mount a political comeback in 2024. And with his cultish base, who in the GOP will be able to stop him? Cotton? Rafael? Nimrata?

There will be no comeback… his entire grift/stichk/gimmick is that he’s a “winner” once he loses that all goes away. He will get memory holed by the GOP true believers the same way W was

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:03:18pm

FUCK 2020.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:03:48pm
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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:04:43pm

re: #21 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

C’mon, Dude. You can beat this!

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:05:02pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

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Maybe he really means…

Bosco Chocolate Syrup Commercial (1950s)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:05:53pm

Our seven day rolling average of new Covid cases is now up to 59,124 per day.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:07:36pm
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:12:10pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:14:44pm

BOFFO

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:17:12pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

Just a guy who never made it outta 1935.

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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:19:46pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

I actually used boffo in my newspaper writing. Of course, I also had to explain to my editor what “winnowing” meant when it came to a primary vote.

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austin_blue  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:22:17pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

Think of the casualties.

As for Trump, he’ll be dead in a few years and I don’t care if he dies in a cell or a brothel.

How about a cell in a brothel?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:23:09pm

re: #31 austin_blue

How about a cell in a brothel?

I think they charge extra for that.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:23:46pm

The forgotten working man in Youngstown reads Variety religiously.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:27:16pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

“Sticks Nix Hick Pix”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:28:17pm

re: #34 jaunte

“Sticks Nix Hick Pix”

Couldn’t come up with one of those.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:31:28pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

“Trump Stumps, Chumps Clump”

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:32:35pm

re: #15 makeitstop

I want the US to put The Fear into him first.

As much as I want vengeance for Trumpism, I want twice that for Putin. Take his money. Reduce his influence. Expose his corruption. Jail his sycophants in this country.

I want our government to fuck with him and impede him to the point where he’s dragged into the street by his own citizens. And what they do to him is none of my concern.

I want the Internet Research Agency to suffer an outage.

Permanently.

A cruise missile to their peering point will do.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:33:18pm

Tough shit. They could have removed him from office when they had the chance. Sux 2 b them.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:34:37pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Tough shit. They could have removed him from office when they had the chance. Sux 2 b them.

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Good.

I want to see a nice big Republican bloodbath not only in the Presidential and Senate races. I want to see Republicans slaughtered across the board.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:34:53pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

GOP Senators: retiring from your Senate seat as a multimillionaire is not by any stretch a “bloodbath.”
— A Nation Experiencing Covid-19

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:36:09pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Tough shit. They could have removed him from office when they had the chance. Sux 2 b them.

“I’m now looking at the possibility of a Republican bloodbath in the Senate.”

I’m now looking forward to the possibility of a Republican bloodbath in the Senate.
Wow. I’m almost a Republican.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:37:24pm

re: #40 jaunte

GOP Senators: retiring from your Senate seat as a multimillionaire is not by any stretch a “bloodbath.”
— A Nation Experiencing Covid-19

They’re lucky that a literal bloodbath, a Red Wedding, isn’t within the Overton Window.

Not yet, not today.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:37:25pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Tough shit. They could have removed him from office when they had the chance. Sux 2 b them.

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Music to my ears. Fuck then all. Every last one.

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PrairieQueen  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:37:58pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Exactly. They’re trying to return their shitty purchase without a receipt, after the return period, in very much used condition. No, they fought tooth and tail to keep this guy and supported every shitty decision he made, remained silent as he spewed conspiracy theories and outright lies. Buyer’s remorse at this stage of the game is counterfeit as fuck.

I wish the bloodbath part was guaranteed though. They’ve overstayed their welcome. Time to go.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:45:10pm

Longing for a less batshit politics.

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PrairieQueen  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:48:06pm

FWIW, I received my ballot in the mail today. Didn’t even bring it to the house - I stayed in my vehicle and filled it out, right on the spot. Straight Dems down the line, didn’t matter if I even knew who the candidate was, no way in hell I’m supporting another GOP sonofabitch in my lifetime. Make no mistake, I want them out. Gone. Kaput. Extinct.

After I filled it out and put it in the special envelope, I drove straight to the ballot box collection station and tossed it in.

Time from receipt to dropoff: 30 minutes. Done.

For every suppressed voter standing in line, I salute you. I hope this is the last year any voter has to suffer undue hardship to have a voice in this country. Fuck you Donald Trump for turning the voting process in our country to something like a “third world shithole.” Biden/Harris 2020.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:48:57pm

re: #45 jaunte

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Longing for a less batshit politics.

It would be funny if Giuliani’s daught replied to his tweet and said “Mine.”

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:51:42pm

May I do a lil Drive By?

LOL “Silent Majority” LOL
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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:54:54pm

re: #46 PrairieQueen

May I quote on my FB? That’s so well put.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:57:53pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Tough shit. They could have removed him from office when they had the chance. Sux 2 b them.

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Good. Their party deserves to go the way of the Whigs.

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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:58:07pm

re: #45 jaunte

Ghouliani deep in the sauce. Then again, when is he not.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 7:59:35pm

Especially that last one.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:01:38pm

Jerk

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:03:00pm

re: #53 Patricia Kayden

Jerk

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HizzzMoneeeee!!!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:03:06pm

re: #48 Rightwingconspirator

Here I will remind y’all that the odds of winning at PowerBall are less than 1 in 302 MILLION, yet there are several winners a year.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:03:17pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:03:24pm

re: #52 Belafon

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Especially that last one.

Patriotism as a way of life and not just a symbolic gesture. One of my most proudest moments is preparing people including my sister in law for naturalization. I still would like to attend a ceremony one of these days.

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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:07:42pm

re: #56 Belafon

Kind of like the editor’s note we received when the USA was playing Italy in a 2000 prelim Olympics game.

“Note: Fucka is player for Italy.”

Gregor Fucka to be precise.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:09:23pm

re: #55 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Here I will remind y’all that the odds of winning at PowerBall are less than 1 in 302 MILLION, yet there are several winners a year.

Yes, and if more than 302M tries are made, the odds are pretty good one person is going to get it.

There’s also a nonzero probability that a jet engine could fall from the sky and land in your bedroom. I’m not going to live in fear of the engine falling. The real question when that happens is will you see a man dressed like a rabbit. (// on the last sentence.)

Do you see evidence that people are looking at charts like that and going “Cool, I don’t need to do anything”?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:09:39pm

re: #56 Belafon

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Uh, Toobin…there IS something called Pornhub…

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:12:24pm

re: #57 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Several years ago my small design company acquired a smaller one. We just trusted that their employees were in the country legally, but surprise! One wasn’t.
He had to go back to Malaysia and begin the process of entering legally. We sponsored his employment (which required a lot of paperwork to show we were paying him well within the professional range) and moved him back to the U.S. Two years ago he and his wife became citizens. He’s very excited about voting in his first presidential election.

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PrairieQueen  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:12:43pm

re: #49 Rightwingconspirator

Be my guest, spread the love.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:13:12pm

Something I did not know:

The Kentucky meat shower was an incident occurring between the hours of eleven and twelve o’clock[1] for a period of several minutes on March 3, 1876, where what appeared to be chunks of red meat measuring approximately 2 by 2 inches (5 cm × 5 cm); with at least one being 4 by 4 inches (10 cm × 10 cm) fell from the sky in a 100-by-50-yard (91 by 46 m) area near the settlement of Rankin in Bath County, Kentucky.[2] There exist several explanations as to how this occurred and what the “meat” was, the most popular being the vulture theory, in which a group of vultures regurgitated their meals; and the pieces fell to earth from a reasonable height. The exact type of meat was never identified, although various reports suggested it was beef, lamb, deer, bear, horse, or even human.

en.wikipedia.org

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:13:24pm

I see Roberts has dived off the SS Trump. He may hate giving any non-white voting rights but that’s still less of a danger to him than supporting Trump and leaving himself open to impeachment if we get the votes. So, he’s basically said with the PA case that they won’t interfere to protect himself. So be it. But may the Lord of Light help us all if we get the votes to impeach the fascists on the court.

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plansbandc  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:14:31pm

re: #53 Patricia Kayden

He can go fuck himself.

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cat-tikvah  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:14:49pm

re: #43 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Extinction level event

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plansbandc  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:17:41pm

re: #56 Belafon

It’s the 2020 version of

Hope the jolly was worth losing his career over.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:18:46pm

re: #67 plansbandc

Honestly you think these fools would have learned something after seeing how other assholes self-destructed…

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:19:11pm
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DodgerFan1988  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:19:14pm
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:19:59pm

re: #68 🌹UOJB!

When no previous bad crash and burn example is enough to keep you from pulling a Toobin.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:20:23pm

re: #69 Ace-o-aces

Principled.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:20:24pm

re: #64 William Lewis

I see Roberts has dived off the SS Trump. He may hate giving any non-white voting rights but that’s still less of a danger to him than supporting Trump and leaving himself open to impeachment if we get the votes. So, he’s basically said with the PA case that they won’t interfere to protect himself. So be it. But may the Lord of Light help us all if we get the votes to impeach the fascists on the court.

He still thinks he has a positive legacy but history will judge him harshly for how he weakened the VRA and he’s as responsible as anyone for the facade that right wing judges have been pushing for years. My hope is if Biden expands the court, he finds a lot of his bad rulings overturned.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:20:27pm

re: #67 plansbandc

It’s the 2020 version of

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Hope the jolly was worth losing his career over.

Give her a sword…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:21:42pm

re: #69 Ace-o-aces

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Well that’s Ben too. He’s just another Buckley. A full of himself faux intellectual asshole who believes he’s a profound thinker.

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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:21:59pm

re: #63 Belafon

Also known as high school lunch.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:24:38pm

re: #75 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Well that’s Ben too. He’s just another Buckley. A full of himself faux intellectual asshole who believes he’s a profound thinker.

Buckley, for all his real faults, was still 1000% better a person. Benji is just a POS.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:24:45pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:25:35pm

re: #77 William Lewis

Buckley, for all his real faults, was still 1000% better a person. Benji is just a POS.

Yeah I can’t see Buckley belittling his kids to make a stupid sexist point.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:26:05pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

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Arizona gets another spike timed perfectly for Election Day…

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:27:12pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:27:52pm
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:28:51pm

re: #82 Patricia Kayden

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She sure dances better than The Inedible Bulk.

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piratedan  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:28:55pm

re: #80 🌹UOJB!

makes me happy that most of us Dems here have mailed in our ballots already… if these folks wait until the Election Day itself, good luck filling out a ballot from the morgue…

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:29:04pm

re: #79 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I can’t see Buckley belittling his kids to make a stupid sexist point.

Buckley at least had a certain version of the Catholic faith to center himself on. We can argue about it’s strengths but he had it and Benji has thrown away his tradition rather totally.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:30:17pm
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:30:26pm

re: #85 William Lewis

Buckley at least had a certain version of the Catholic faith to center himself on. We can argue about it’s strengths but he had it and Benji has thrown away his tradition rather totally.

I’d be embarrassed if I had graduated from Harvard and found myself forced to prostitute myself to the Kochs and Mercers to make ends meet.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:31:47pm
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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:33:12pm

re: #64 William Lewis

Roberts is trying to preserve some “credibility” for the Court. The looming 6-3 majority will erase that, even if he votes to make it 5-4.

Should the Democrats win, they need to exercise their power over the next two years to prevent being marginalized for generations. Yes, add four justices. Yes, add DC and Puerto Rico as states. Yes, inquire how Kavanaugh “paid” off his debts. Yes, prosecute Trump and his family for their crimes

For 20 years, I have witnessed Republican fuckery that has brought our country to the brink of unfettered authoritarianism.

This is our last shot. If we do not win and capitalize on it, we are nothing more than a banana republic with nukes, as Krugman would say.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:33:16pm

Tom Tomorrow needs to slam Greenwald in his next strip!

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:33:48pm

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

Greenwald is Officially Dead To Me. Let Bolsanaro have him…

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:38:41pm

re: #73 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It makes you wonder, just a smidge, about the long-term sense of appointing someone as young and green as Coney Barrett to a lifetime SCOTUS seat.

If she’s really smart (and I know I’m delving into the counterfactual here), she’ll realize that once she’s seated, she owes her backers nothing. She will be on the court long after McConnell and Graham and even Sasse and Rubio are out of office, forgotten and maybe even dead.

And because she comes in with such thin experience on the bench, sure, she’ll probably start out looking to Alito and Thomas and Gorsuch as models for how to judge… but who’s to say she doesn’t learn from Sotomayor and Kagan and Breyer along the way, too?

I’m probably overestimating her, and she really is as shallow and predictable and programmed as she appears to be. But I know if someone handed me a lifetime job and I knew I’d never have to answer to them again, I’d find it WAY more engaging to be an iconoclast than I would be to spend the next 30 or 40 years rubber-stamping things just like I was told to when I was barely 40.

(Not to mention that the judges who go the first route tend to be remembered much better in history than the ones who go the second route. Beyond the drama of their confirmation hearings, what history book will have more than a few lines on Thomas or Kavanaugh?)

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plansbandc  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:38:51pm

re: #91 retired cynic

Greenwald has been dead to me for years.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:39:38pm

re: #62 PrairieQueen

Be my guest, spread the love.

Thank you. Genuine persuasion wins friends and sows dissent among our enemies. :-)

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:39:56pm

re: #45 jaunte

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Longing for a less batshit politics.

Office-holders have a certain amount of protection from slander/libel suits, even when they say outrageous they-know-it’s-a-lie bullshit.

Rudy Giuliani is not an office-holder.

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:40:19pm

re: #86 Dread Pirate Ron

What interests do Russia and China have in Cuba? Other than it being a market that the US isn’t in?

I suppose if we normalized relations and started trading, it might improve conditions in Cuba in a way that would undermine the Russian/Chinese narrative that capitalism and western democracy had failed?

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:41:03pm

re: #93 plansbandc

Greenwald has been dead to me for years.

Yes, but Schiff is a hero to me. spit

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:44:34pm

re: #55 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Here I will remind y’all that the odds of winning at PowerBall are less than 1 in 302 MILLION, yet there are several winners a year.

Ummm, no. The odds that someone will win at PowerBall are 100%. What is unlikely is that you will be that someone.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:45:00pm

re: #93 plansbandc

Greenwald has been dead to me for years.

Greenwald has been on death row for me for years… O_o

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:49:01pm

Current mood with rum and beer in hand:

Green Day - Still Breathing (Official Music Video)

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:49:56pm

re: #92 i(m)p(each)sos

It makes you wonder, just a smidge, about the long-term sense of appointing someone as young and green as Coney Barrett to a lifetime SCOTUS seat.

If she’s really smart (and I know I’m delving into the counterfactual here), she’ll realize that once she’s seated, she owes her backers nothing. She will be on the court long after McConnell and Graham and even Sasse and Rubio are out of office, forgotten and maybe even dead.

And because she comes in with such thin experience on the bench, sure, she’ll probably start out looking to Alito and Thomas and Gorsuch as models for how to judge… but who’s to say she doesn’t learn from Sotomayor and Kagan and Breyer along the way, too?

I’m probably overestimating her, and she really is as shallow and predictable and programmed as she appears to be. But I know if someone handed me a lifetime job and I knew I’d never have to answer to them again, I’d find it WAY more engaging to be an iconoclast than I would be to spend the next 30 or 40 years rubber-stamping things just like I was told to when I was barely 40.

(Not to mention that the judges who go the first route tend to be remembered much better in history than the ones who go the second route. Beyond the drama of their confirmation hearings, what history book will have more than a few lines on Thomas or Kavanaugh?)

When Blackmun was appointed to the SC, he and Burger were described as the Minnesota Twins: 2 very conservative justices, close friends, from Minnesota. But over the years Blackmun drifted away and developed a more liberal bent. So your thesis is possible but highly unlikely in this situation. Think of her as the female Clarence Thomas, another young judge who never wavered from his fanaticism. She will not change but likely grow more set in her ways.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:50:09pm

Short version: Tuberville is another charity defrauder.

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piratedan  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:51:47pm

I guess I find it quaint that these bad faith actors, who for years have been piling it high and wide, now demand to have this latest tripe taken seriously. They got what they wanted, some “source” on the NY Post editorial staff rammed this shitburger into the public sphere to give it a patina of possible plausibility so they could have everyone else cite and run thru their e-mails 2020 protocol. Never mind that the idea is fucking implausible, lacks credibility and when requests are made for them to prove it, the response is “trust us”…..

ummmm no….

and yet, when someone from a national network tries to pass this off to “get a reaction” and is shocked to find out that the Dad for the subject in question calls him on his bullshit, the media circles the wagons as if they were the Fraternal Order Of Police in defense of someone who is deliberately being a shit, isn’t offering anything of note to the political discourse in a character attack not on the candidate himself, but his family.

I’m supposed to suddenly man the barricades in defense of this shit? Wow, did you see everyone else rise to the defense of Savannah Guthrie when the President castigated her for actually asking him a question about the lack of follow thru on an earlier promise. Talk about being wired for Republicans…..

Have to give it to Putin to have us question our institutions that can be manipulated so easily and at the expense of what are supposed to be the foundational tenets of our country. I just wish that our institutions were populated by better people who had an understanding of the civics context we all have to live in. They STILL don’t seem to understand that we’re at war, sure no tanks have crossed our borders but these boundaries don’t correspond to lines on a map.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:53:26pm
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plansbandc  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:53:54pm

New episodes of Unsolved Mysteries are up on Netflix. Tsunami Spirits is absolutely devastating. (First episode)

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 8:54:38pm
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sagehen  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:00:00pm

re: #90 🌹UOJB!

Tom Tomorrow needs to slam Greenwald in his next strip!

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um… when Diane Feinstein hugged Lindsay Graham, do you think she was aware he’s been spending a lot of time with Civid-Positive peeps and won’t say if he’s been tested?

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BeachDem  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:01:06pm

re: #21 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

FUCK 2020.

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In support of Jeff Bridges, I made an extra donation to No Kid Hungry—he’s been involved with them for a long time.

nokidhungry.org

He’s truly one of the good guys. Here he is at the 2012 Dem Convention. Rock on, Dude!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:01:10pm
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:04:38pm

re: #107 sagehen

um… when Diane Feinstein hugged Lindsay Graham, do you think she was aware he’s been spending a lot of time with Civid-Positive peeps and won’t say if he’s been tested?

When I saw that it only proved I made the correct decision voting for Kevin DeLeon in 2016. The last two California Senate elections had two Democrats in the General Election. DeLeon was far more liberal than DiFi.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:06:32pm

re: #96 KGxvi

What interests do Russia and China have in Cuba? Other than it being a market that the US isn’t in?

I suppose if we normalized relations and started trading, it might improve conditions in Cuba in a way that would undermine the Russian/Chinese narrative that capitalism and western democracy had failed?

It’s REALLY close. An hour by speedboat. 1/2 an hour by Cessna 172. Commercial radio can broadcast that far. WWI-era weapons could hit a target at that distance.

90 miles. I’ve driven that far for dinner.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:08:09pm

re: #111 sagehen

It’s REALLY close. An hour by speedboat. 1/2 an hour by Cessna 172. Commercial radio can broadcast that far. WWI-era weapons could hit a target at that distance.

90 miles. I’ve driven that far for dinner.

Paid much more for dinner.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:17:16pm

You know what’s even more believable than the Hunter Biden laptop story? Rush Limbaugh today said he has an incredibly close relationship with Jesus Christ.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:21:23pm

re: #113 Ace Rothstein

You know what’s even more believable than the Hunter Biden laptop story? Rush Limbaugh today said he has an incredibly close relationship with Jesus Christ.

One of the best thing about being a Christian? I can honestly believe that as soon as he dies in this world, Rush will wake up in hell. He won’t try to use the “forgiveness” route for the simple reason he’s stupid enough to think he’s good. He’ll die, wake up in hell and be waiting to torment Trump when he gets there… :D

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:21:56pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:27:12pm

re: #115 gocart mozart

Send him the fuck back

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:30:11pm

re: #113 Ace Rothstein

They never stop working the Je$u$-marks, because that is their most reliable customer base.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:30:40pm

re: #115 gocart mozart

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Aw crap, it’s alive…

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:37:14pm

Adam Silverman speculates that Hunter’s phone may have been hacked, and what is coming out is a mix of real and fake stuff so that he can’t claim it’s all fake.

balloon-juice.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:41:34pm

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

We need to be careful with this thinking. Lots of republicans are early voting too.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:42:36pm

re: #120 GlutenFreeJesus

We need to be careful with this thinking. Lots of republicans are early voting too.

And it’s running about 2:1 in favor of the Democrats.

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gwangung  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:46:18pm

re: #120 GlutenFreeJesus

We need to be careful with this thinking. Lots of republicans are early voting too.

Same as regular voting…

But I’m keeping an eye on total turnout…the bigger the better for Democrats….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:47:06pm

re: #121 Belafon

Indeed. Don’t get me wrong. I’m really hoping it’ll be enough in TX on Election Day.

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:49:23pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:54:08pm
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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 9:56:38pm

re: #92 i(m)p(each)sos

You assume that she is sane. Look at the rulings by Alito. He wants to revisit gay marriage. She is the Manchurian Candidate conservatives have dreamed of. Smart? Yes. A female? Yes. Utterly devoid of the human condition? Yes.

Willing to advance a 1789 worldview? Duh.

With her as the swing vote, the definition of the 14th Amendment is at risk, let alone the 1st. And forget about the 9th Amendment, which was Madison’s way of saying that maybe a right to privacy should have been construed.

I could see Barrett joining with Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch to overturn Griswold v Connecticut and Gideon v Wainwright.

Forget about Roe v Wade. This court will determine that life begins in the testicles. And that masturbation is punishable by death.

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:07:37pm

re: #91 retired cynic

Greenwald is Officially Dead To Me. Let Bolsanaro have him…

So, Greenwald made just the sort of accusation against Adam Schiff that you would expect the Putin apologist who really hates being called a Putin apologist and who used to use sockpuppet accounts to go after his critics to make.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:11:01pm
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BeachDem  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:12:20pm

There’s dumb, dumber and then there’s McSally

GOP Sen. Martha McSally’s Campaign Ad Mistakenly Shows Opponent’s Twin Brother

newsweek.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:27:45pm
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piratedan  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:32:36pm

re: #130 Dread Pirate Ron

I’m sure she’ll go away now that she knows that she was raped “for the good of the country”….

Christ I wouldn’t be shocked if DJT made Ted Cruz’s wife blow him and make him watch…

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:37:55pm

re: #131 piratedan

please I don’t want to go there…

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:06:24pm

Move along, move along.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:12:59pm

re: #129 BeachDem

There’s dumb, dumber and then there’s McSally

GOP Sen. Martha McSally’s Campaign Ad Mistakenly Shows Opponent’s Twin Brother

newsweek.com

Careless — but a minor mistake. They are identical twins and both are astronauts. There was nothing demeaning about the wrong picture.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:26:14pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 12:19:29am

re: #20 KGxvi

There will be no comeback… his entire grift/stichk/gimmick is that he’s a “winner” once he loses that all goes away. He will get memory holed by the GOP true believers the same way W was

Not a political in any case, the GOP will finally, after having gone along with him, realize what he cost them in votes and image.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 12:23:53am

re: #52 Belafon

I still maintain people who talk about respect for the flag don’t give a tiny tin fuck about the Constitution or veterans. They love the flag because it doesn’t require thoughts or feelings

They do not understand what the flag really stands for and cling instead to arbitrary symbols and associations, like lapel pins, guns and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, etc…

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 20, 2020 • 1:04:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 1:07:31am

Here’s Joe Biden’s vision for Greek Americans and U.S.-Greece relations…

(page of topics and references)

Here’s Trump’s vision for Greek Americans and U.S.-Greece relations:

“They have to give us back their Formula 16 or we cancel the Olympics!”

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John Hughes  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:15:54am

re: #63 Belafon

Something I did not know:

en.wikipedia.org

What? You haven’t read the combined works of Charles Hoy Fort back to front and front to back until the pages fell out?

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John Hughes  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:24:05am

re: #67 plansbandc

Looks like a penis, only smaller.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:34:27am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:35:23am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:41:36am

re: #45 jaunte

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Longing for a less batshit politics.

“why won’t anyone traffic this nonsense so we can hurt the guy whose way ahead?”

cmon we got nothing else

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John Hughes  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:41:56am

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

@StarTrek is based on real science.

He described how the writers would just insert “tech” into the scripts whenever they needed to resolve a story or plot line, then they’d have consultants fill in the appropriate words (aka technobabble) later.

“It became the solution to so many plot lines and so many stories,” Moore said. “It was so mechanical that we had science consultants who would just come up with the words for us and we’d just write ‘tech’ in the script. You know, Picard would say ‘Commander La Forge, tech the tech to the warp drive.’ I’m serious. If you look at those scripts, you’ll see that…

“It’s a rhythm and it’s a structure, and the words are meaningless. It’s not about anything except just sort of going through this dance of how they tech their way out of it.”

From Charles Stross, via Scalzi.

whatever.scalzi.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:45:26am

re: #140 John Hughes

What? You haven’t read the combined works of Charles Hoy Fort back to front and front to back until the pages fell out?

Seems like a delightful fellow from his wiki, as long as he didn’t fall for any of his own ideas. (I had always mistakenly viewed him as a pitcher of woo, because of the people his group attract.)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:47:37am

I wonder if televangelist Kenneth Copeland will loan his Gulfstream to help evacuate Texas GOP fatcats to Russia? It can make Anadyr Siberia (site of an infamous gulag) non-stop.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:48:02am

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The video maker goes on about the quake not being close to a fault line.

But I think that is not important here as this quake is not the result of strike-slipping at the surface.

Instead, at a depth of 40km this quake is all about the subduction going on, which at ocean floor depth is about 50km to the southeast of the epicenter. The Aleutian Arc is the result of the old Kula ocean plate subducting under what appears to be now the extension of North America. It’s all very complex geology.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:48:41am

re: #71 jaunte

When no previous bad crash and burn example is enough to keep you from pulling a Toobin.

apparently that’s what he was doing

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 2:53:00am

re: #84 piratedan

makes me happy that most of us Dems here have mailed in our ballots already… if these folks wait until the Election Day itself, good luck filling out a ballot from the morgue…

we’ve been waiting 4 years to be able to do something, anything that would be effective. to end the nightmare idaily onslaught firehose of idiocy.. because it seemed endless and possibly to go on for 8 years

once we can see the light at the end of the tunnel and were evety one of us running g for it with all due dispatch

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Nojay UK  Oct 20, 2020 • 3:23:31am

re: #92 i(m)p(each)sos

It makes you wonder, just a smidge, about the long-term sense of appointing someone as young and green as Coney Barrett to a lifetime SCOTUS seat.

If she’s really smart (and I know I’m delving into the counterfactual here), she’ll realize that once she’s seated, she owes her backers nothing. She will be on the court long after McConnell and Graham and even Sasse and Rubio are out of office, forgotten and maybe even dead.

She has seven kids. Some of them will want to fail upwards on the Wingnut Welfare circuit like SCJ Kennedy’s nephew did and for that she’ll have to produce the goods for the right-wingers on a regular basis so her offspring can become commentators, think tank pundits and Federalist Society middle-rankers in their turn.

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steve_davis  Oct 20, 2020 • 3:31:58am

re: #14 TarHellion

Trump isn’t going anywhere. He’ll believe himself to be like Silvio Berlusconi, able to mount a political comeback in 2024. And with his cultish base, who in the GOP will be able to stop him? Cotton? Rafael? Nimrata?

I think 10 years in state pokie for orchestrating tax fraud will make this unlikely.

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steve_davis  Oct 20, 2020 • 3:36:53am

re: #45 jaunte

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Longing for a less batshit politics.

I’m assuming there does come a point where no court in the land would rationalize how this isn’t thoroughly malicious slander, no?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2020 • 3:47:08am

Morning Lizardim. How go things among the lizardfolk as the first snowpocalypse commences?

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 20, 2020 • 3:47:32am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 20, 2020 • 3:47:54am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2020 • 3:56:29am

re: #156 Dread Pirate Ron

Old School version:

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steve_davis  Oct 20, 2020 • 3:58:49am

re: #92 i(m)p(each)sos

It makes you wonder, just a smidge, about the long-term sense of appointing someone as young and green as Coney Barrett to a lifetime SCOTUS seat.

If she’s really smart (and I know I’m delving into the counterfactual here), she’ll realize that once she’s seated, she owes her backers nothing. She will be on the court long after McConnell and Graham and even Sasse and Rubio are out of office, forgotten and maybe even dead.

And because she comes in with such thin experience on the bench, sure, she’ll probably start out looking to Alito and Thomas and Gorsuch as models for how to judge… but who’s to say she doesn’t learn from Sotomayor and Kagan and Breyer along the way, too?

I’m probably overestimating her, and she really is as shallow and predictable and programmed as she appears to be. But I know if someone handed me a lifetime job and I knew I’d never have to answer to them again, I’d find it WAY more engaging to be an iconoclast than I would be to spend the next 30 or 40 years rubber-stamping things just like I was told to when I was barely 40.

(Not to mention that the judges who go the first route tend to be remembered much better in history than the ones who go the second route. Beyond the drama of their confirmation hearings, what history book will have more than a few lines on Thomas or Kavanaugh?)

It happened to Thomas More.

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steve_davis  Oct 20, 2020 • 4:09:01am

re: #126 TarHellion

You assume that she is sane. Look at the rulings by Alito. He wants to revisit gay marriage. She is the Manchurian Candidate conservatives have dreamed of. Smart? Yes. A female? Yes. Utterly devoid of the human condition? Yes.

Willing to advance a 1789 worldview? Duh.

With her as the swing vote, the definition of the 14th Amendment is at risk, let alone the 1st. And forget about the 9th Amendment, which was Madison’s way of saying that maybe a right to privacy should have been construed.

I could see Barrett joining with Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch to overturn Griswold v Connecticut and Gideon v Wainwright.

Forget about Roe v Wade. This court will determine that life begins in the testicles. And that masturbation is punishable by death.

this is where biden & Co. will have to play a bit of a long game. They’ll first give Republicans a chance in the new congress to not filibuster every bill that comes up. when that fails, they’ll drop the filibuster. They’ll give the supreme court the chance to affirm roe v. wade and aca. when that fails, we’ll have a fireside moment with Biden, who will tell us that Democracy will not be shortchanged by a partisan court, and he’ll “reluctantly” agree that adding 4 more justices in short order is the only option.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2020 • 4:37:59am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 4:56:23am

re: #159 steve_davis

this is where biden & Co. will have to play a bit of a long game. They’ll first give Republicans a chance in the new congress to not filibuster every bill that comes up. when that fails, they’ll drop the filibuster. They’ll give the supreme court the chance to affirm roe v. wade and aca. when that fails, we’ll have a fireside moment with Biden, who will tell us that Democracy will not be shortchanged by a partisan court, and he’ll “reluctantly” agree that adding 4 more justices in short order is the only option.

exactly
spot on

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 4:58:03am

it’s not much
its not nothing either

Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele endorsed Joe Biden for president.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:09:49am

re: #159 steve_davis

this is where biden & Co. will have to play a bit of a long game. They’ll first give Republicans a chance in the new congress to not filibuster every bill that comes up. when that fails, they’ll drop the filibuster. They’ll give the supreme court the chance to affirm roe v. wade and aca. when that fails, we’ll have a fireside moment with Biden, who will tell us that Democracy will not be shortchanged by a partisan court, and he’ll “reluctantly” agree that adding 4 more justices in short order is the only option.

If they don’t drop the filibuster at the beginning of the 2021 session, they can’t drop it until 2023.

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Axolotl  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:12:16am

re: #163 Belafon

If they don’t drop the filibuster at the beginning of the 2021 session, they can’t drop it until 2023.

I thought they made their own rules?

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:15:13am

re: #163 Belafon

Also, it’s not just the Supreme Court. When Barrett is seated, someone will challenge Roe at a lower court first. This will take its time working up the courts, and while this is happening, women in part of the country will be completely denied the right to have an abortion.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:15:52am

re: #164 Axolotl

I thought they made their own rules?

They can only change them at the beginning of each legislative session.

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:25:31am

re: #166 Belafon

They can only change them at the beginning of each legislative session.

But what happens if Republicans filibuster the proposed changes to the filibuster?

(This is not a joke question)

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NetworkKed  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:27:51am

re: #167 Jay C

But what happens if Republicans filibuster the proposed changes to the filibuster?

(This is not a joke question)

Can’t - it’s a straight majority vote.

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:44:30am

re: #168 NetworkKed

Can’t - it’s a straight majority vote.

OK: I will freely admit to not knowing enough about the Senate’s internal procedures for changing the rules on things like filibusters, so I’ll withdraw the question for now.

Though it reminds me of something ISTR reading in Robert Caro’s bio of Lyndon Johnson. Arriving in Washington after stealing his Senate seat, the freshman Senator Johnson asked a clerk to get him a copy of the full Senate Rules (to try to find loopholes to exploit so he could grab power). The clerk was supposedly surprised: outside of the Senate parliamentarian, nobody (even Senators) ever bothered to research the whole rule book they operated by. LBJ did though: it’s why he was such an effective (I.e., iron-fisted ball-buster) Majority Leader.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:46:22am

re: #147 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

One really bad aspect of Barr and the rest of his henchmen being tossed out of the DOJ is that there will be very real physical destruction of records, materials and computer systems on their way out. We are talking about actual fires and smoke damage in order to destroy evidence. This goes for numerous other government facilities as well as Trump’s 150% corrupt sycophants realize what they have done the last 4 years and no Pardon umbrella from above to protect them anymore.

Mafia criminal gangsters will do what they have always done- use the facility for their own purposes then torch the place when they are done.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:47:08am

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Seems like a delightful fellow from his wiki, as long as he didn’t fall for any of his own ideas. (I had always mistakenly viewed him as a pitcher of woo, because of the people his group attract.)

I guess being a pitcher of woo is better than being a bucket of piss.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 5:58:59am

The 2nd debate finals from Nielsen via cnn

New York (CNN Business)Joe Biden’s town hall on ABC averaged 14.1 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump’s town hall on NBC.

That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that’s not even the most surprising part.
The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC’s cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden — on only one network — still prevailed.
The Trump town hall averaged 10.9 million viewers on the NBC broadcast network. On MSNBC, Trump reached 1.8 million viewers, and on CNBC, about 720,000 viewers. So Trump’s gross audience across the three channels was 13.5 million, still fewer than Biden’s audience on ABC alone

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jeffreyw  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:07:46am

YouTube

Good morning!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:11:35am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:15:05am

Daily Beast

“Even by post-Citizens United standards, it is an absurd, Scrooge McDuck-level haul. The Biden campaign could suspend fundraising entirely and drop more than $20 million a day, every day, until the election without bouncing a single check. But according to top-level donors and an ambitious schedule of upcoming fundraisers, there’s no plan to slow down—just in case the trove of ‘fuck you’ money needs to become ‘see you in court’ money.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:15:45am

This picture! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:16:14am

re: #174 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Very cool.

But where are the boats 🚤🚤🚤🚤?

Isn’t Trump relying on the boats for his margin of victory?

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ericblair  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:17:51am

re: #170 Florida Panhandler

One really bad aspect of Barr and the rest of his henchmen being tossed out of the DOJ is that there will be very real physical destruction of records, materials and computer systems on their way out. We are talking about actual fires and smoke damage in order to destroy evidence. This goes for numerous other government facilities as well as Trump’s 150% corrupt sycophants realize what they have done the last 4 years and no Pardon umbrella from above to protect them anymore.

Mafia criminal gangsters will do what they have always done- use the facility for their own purposes then torch the place when they are done.

I think this is a risk, but if your staff doesn’t play along you’re going to have a hell of a time trying to get rid of things. Plus, with the more secured records, there are logging and auditing tools that would need to be circumvented, knowing that the new administration is going to want to know what happened.

Where I work, we have the official registry copies of documents, but of course I have seven drafts of the work product plus old emails plus workgroup folders plus whatever other places these documents are copied. And I can bet a lot of people in the government are keeping copies of the key documents stashed away in cupboards and in encrypted files called something like christmas_party_2016.zip .

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:19:25am

And another first

USA Today, one of the largest newspapers by circulation in America, gave Joe Biden its first-ever presidential endorsement on Tuesday.

Brutal line: “If this were a choice between two capable major party nominees who happened to have opposing ideas, we wouldn’t choose sides.”

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:25:57am

re: #179 dangerman

“But, when the platform of one party is ‘Suck on Covid’ the choice is pretty clear.” (Not an actual quote.)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:27:16am
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:33:01am

re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Then only money from red states should be used to fund it.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:33:18am

re: #179 dangerman

And another first

Of course “If this were a choice between two capable major party nominees who happened to have opposing ideas, ** we’d probably be in Canada***”

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:36:46am

re: #183 dangerman

Remember the guy Trudeau defeated? He was a proto-Trump.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:41:29am

re: #183 dangerman

Of course “If this were a choice between two capable major party nominees who happened to have opposing ideas, ** we’d probably be in Canada***”

You’re giving Erin O’Toole WAY too much credit. He’s a racist caveman and just like trump only he speaks better.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:41:53am

re: #184 Belafon

Remember the guy Trudeau defeated? He was a proto-Trump.

The new guy isn’t any better.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:42:46am

re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I’m really getting sick of how Republicans in red states get away with a fuck you attitude to blue states. Wonder how this jackass would feel if Obama had decided after a massive tornado that Missouri shouldn’t get aid. Yet it’s acceptable to do this to blue states because “elitism.’

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A Cranky One  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:43:44am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:44:31am
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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:44:32am

re: #187 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m really getting sick of how Republicans in red states get away with a fuck you attitude to blue states. Wonder how this jackass would feel if Obama had decided after a massive tornado that Missouri shouldn’t get aid. Yet it’s acceptable to do this to blue states because “elitism.’

And because the media go along with it.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:48:44am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:48:46am

King of bankruptcy bankrupts his campaign

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William Lewis  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:48:56am

re: #159 steve_davis

We, as a nation, can’t afford to wait on the filibuster. It’s death needs to happen the first day of a democratic majority in the Senate. Period. Play the “lets pretend the GOP aren’t traitors” game with SCOTUS if you want, but we have to be able to pass relief bills NOW.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:49:47am

re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You’re giving Erin O’Toole WAY too much credit. He’s a racist caveman and just like trump only he speaks better.

Ok, then another country
I just picked canada cause it’s close by

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:50:34am

re: #190 Jebediah, RBG

And because the media go along with it.

Yep. No one ever calls Republicans out for treating blue starters especially urban ones like they’re not really Americans. It’s fucking offensive as hell.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:51:30am

re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This right here is THE biggest problem we face over the long haul, the idea that you only represent the people in your party and only red states matter or deserve any help, money for anything, etc. Dems need to amplify what they are saying and hammer on this. If you feel this way you have no damned business being in public office. NONE.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:53:47am

re: #196 A Mom Anon

This right here is THE biggest problem we face over the long haul, the idea that you only represent the people in your party and only red states matter or deserve any help, money for anything, etc. Dems need to amplify what they are saying and hammer on this. If you feel this way you have no damned business being in public office. NONE.

It’s part of Limbaugh’s legacy and it needs to be discussed when he dies instead of using bs phrases like “firebrand” rather than divisive bigoted asshole when Rush goes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:54:31am

re: #196 A Mom Anon

This right here is THE biggest problem we face over the long haul, the idea that you only represent the people in your party and only red states matter or deserve any help, money for anything, etc. Dems need to amplify what they are saying and hammer on this. If you feel this way you have no damned business being in public office. NONE.

#BlueLivesMatter

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:54:52am

ThEyLookfienus!
But it’s perfectly acceptable for me to suggest they’re not real Americans because they live in a city or diverse suburb.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 6:55:23am

re: #194 dangerman

Ok, then another country
I just picked canada cause it’s close by

I totally get your point… But wanted to clear that up.

No harm no 🐓

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:04:16am

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:04:29am

re: #197 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s part of Limbaugh’s legacy and it needs to be discussed when he dies instead of using bs phrases like “firebrand” rather than divisive bigoted asshole when Rush goes.

His and Newt’s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:09:25am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It’s not over but I do think they’re not going to get a 2010 redux. And the demographics catch up with them daily.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:09:44am
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John Hughes  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:10:09am

re: #192 dangerman

Famously the beginning of the end for Mobutu Sese Seko was when he stopped paying his presidential guard. Up until that point the Zairian army had been split into two parts, the larger army which had rudimentary equipment and, most importantly no bullets and the presidential guard who had spiffy uniforms, guns, ammo and so on.

Another data point in the “Trump is not only a dictator wannabee, he’s no fucking good at it” files.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:12:21am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Nope. The Republican Party is far from over. It still has fervent, dangerous supporters. The election will be much more closer than the polls show as Trump’s supporters crawl over glass to vote for Dear Leader. Biden will win according to the polls but Republicans aren’t disappearing any time soon.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:14:44am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Today, a group called “43 Alumni for Biden” released an ad called “Team 46.” It says that they are all lifelong Republicans, but because they recognize the qualities of leadership—including empathy- everyone “on this team” is voting for Biden. “Let’s put Joe Biden in the White House.” The ad features a number of pictures of President George W. Bush, the forty-third president, and is narrated by someone whose voice sounds like his. Former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance notes, “This looks awfully close to an endorsement of Biden from George W. Bush.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:15:02am
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John Hughes  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:16:39am

re: #196 A Mom Anon

This right here is THE biggest problem we face over the long haul, the idea that you only represent the people in your party and only red states matter or deserve any help, money for anything, etc.

This is a natural consequence of the electoral college.

If you want politicians to chase over the votes of people you have to let people vote, not land.

One person one vote. Not one accidental near arbitrary historical territory one vote.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:17:08am

re: #206 Patricia Kayden

Nope. The Republican Party is far from over. It still has fervent, dangerous supporters. The election will be much more closer than the polls show as Trump’s supporters crawl over glass to vote for Dear Leader. Biden will win according to the polls but Republicans aren’t disappearing any time soon.

I kinda do and don’t disagree. Supporters aren’t going anywhere but I believe the party is. A party catering to 30% of the public (in specific states) isn’t viable as a national party.

I see a split coming. But that’s just my take.

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John Hughes  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:17:50am

re: #197 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s part of Limbaugh’s legacy

No it’s not. It’s written into the US constitution. Hell, it’s written into the very name of the “country”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:17:54am

re: #208 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I didn’t read the legal complaint (if it has even been publicized), and the article was very vague on the specifics. It is reading like it is a Republican partisan attempt to hurt somebody, anybody, for the tailspin of negative coverage that has been dragging the GOP into the abyss.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:19:04am
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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:20:37am

re: #208 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Question both serious and rhetorical:
How long do these major antitrust suits usually take to wind through the court system?
My guess is some 5-10 years after Apple and Microsoft will have stopped supporting their next OSs….

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:21:47am

re: #179 dangerman

Of course, with nobody traveling and staying in hotels, no one will actually read the endorsement

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:22:48am

re: #212 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I didn’t read the legal complaint (if it has even been publicized), and the article was very vague on the specifics. It is reading like it is a Republican partisan attempt to hurt somebody, anybody, for the tailspin of negative coverage that has been dragging the GOP into the abyss.

Yeah, we’d have to see the full complaint because what that article says about using it’s clout as a market leader to retain its market share is what all corporations do.

And that only Republican attorneys general have signed on is another tell.

Goggles stock ROSE on the news of this lawsuit. I’m pretty sure this is going nowhere.

You want to come after Google make a better product (Gab and Parlar anyone?)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:23:34am

re: #215 KGxvi

Of course, with nobody traveling and staying in hotels, no one will actually read the endorsement

That was my first thought, too.

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:25:55am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The public option is still, inherently, a market based solution. It is government not as market regulator but as market participant. Similar to Gillibrand’s postal banking plan. In markets where there are so few options (and for most people in health insurance you don’t get a choice between insurers - your employer makes that choice for you) having the government as a competitor can probably do a lot to move the market toward better/more equitable outcomes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:27:57am

re: #192 dangerman

Not only is Trump using his campaign to fund most of his retributive lawsuits. But now many of the legal bills are going unpaid - apparently because the campaign is broke.

Anybody who works for Trump on anything but a cash-up-front basis should not be surprised if they get stiffed…

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:29:04am

re: #210 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I kinda do and don’t disagree. Supporters aren’t going anywhere but I believe the party is. A party catering to 30% of the public (in specific states) isn’t viable as a national party.

I see a split coming. But that’s just my take.

But there’s the main problem: a unified and politically extremist bloc of 30%* is too small to significantly sway the political balance of power, but way too big to ignore or sideline.
And also (as copiously noted here, and elsewhere), our federal system gives that 30% outsize leverage on the national government as a whole, since it is concentrated, rather than diffuse.

*Or even the “crazification factor” of 27%

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:29:59am

re: #197 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s part of Limbaugh’s legacy and it needs to be discussed when he dies instead of using bs phrases like “firebrand” rather than divisive bigoted asshole when Rush goes.

gadfly

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:31:24am

re: #214 Jay C

Question both serious and rhetorical:
How long do these major antitrust suits take to wind through the court system?
My guess is some 5-10 years after Apple and Microsoft will have stopped supporting their next OSs….

In US v Microsoft, the earliest events (including a settlement with the feds) started in like 1993/94. The law suit wasn’t filed until mid-1998, the DC Circuit Court of Appeal didn’t get the case until 2001. And the case likely would have dragged on longer, but in Sept 2001, the government announced they were no longer seeking to break up Microsoft but instead settle the case

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:35:02am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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That ad is about as close to a Bush endorsement of Biden as we’re gonna get. I’ll take it.

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:38:05am

re: #222 KGxvi

In US v Microsoft, the earliest events (including a settlement with the feds) started in like 1993/94. The law suit wasn’t filed until mid-1998, the DC Circuit Court of Appeal didn’t get the case until 2001. And the case likely would have dragged on longer, but in Sept 2001, the government announced they were no longer seeking to break up Microsoft but instead settle the case

Thanx: I was actually thinking more of the AT&T breakup suit, which a quick wiki showed took ten years (1974-84) from original filing to settlement.
Of course, that was back in the day when phones had cranks, and modems were powered by kerosene…… ;)

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Nojay UK  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:40:54am

re: #222 KGxvi

In US v Microsoft, the earliest events (including a settlement with the feds) started in like 1993/94. The law suit wasn’t filed until mid-1998, the DC Circuit Court of Appeal didn’t get the case until 2001.

Don’t forget the granddaddy of the tech anti-trust lawsuits, IBM vs. The Entire Universe. It is said that greenhorn lawyers fresh from law school joined law firms, started working on the IBM defence team and later retired having worked on no other case in their entire careers.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:42:05am

So, Tiffany caught a buzz and made a ‘speech’ to a ‘rally’ of LGBTQ Trumps supporters yesterday…

I could only get about 20 seconds in before her Racist Store brand Marilyn Monroe act made me bail. It’s horrible.

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BeachDem  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:45:24am

re: #176 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This picture! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Reminiscent of

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danarchy  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:45:25am

re: #208 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Google has more than 90% market share in the search industry, it’s biggest competitor, bing, has a little under 3%. That has got to be a monopoly by just about any definition.

That isn’t to say they shouldn’t be going after Facebook, Amazon, and Apple too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:51:02am

hi

Local news: Douglas County/Omaha Public Health District has moved it’s risk for Covid-19 into the “high” category.

Here where I live, Panhandle Public Health District moved it’s risk higher, to just below the “high” category.

Nebraska is now 5th highest per capita for new Covid-19 infections.

Governor Pete Ricketts is still resisting the calls of public health officials, physicians, and epidemiologists to impose stricter restrictions on the state. His rationale is that “the heavy hand of government” should not impose itself on the citizens (he is still pro-genocide). The governor has ordered all hospitals to retain 20% of ICU beds in the state open for non-Covid-19 cases (not applying the heavy hand of government there) such as heart attacks or automobile accidents.

He has reduced the amount of people in restaurants and bars by a maximum of 20%.

Panhandle Public Health District Dashboard

Most cities, villages, and unincorporated towns have now been moved into the “high” category. In my county, the city of Bayard (800) remains at “medium,” Bridgeport (1,100, the county seat) into “high,” and my village (124) still has no cases.

Across the rest of the Panhandle, unincorporated Lisco (64) and the village of Llewellyn (224) are the only other towns with no cases.

The weekly infection rate in the Panhandle is 23.5%.

Yesterday there were 13 new cases, the day before there were 36.

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:51:33am

re: #226 makeitstop

So, Tiffany caught a buzz and made a ‘speech’ to a ‘rally’ of LGBTQ Trumps supporters yesterday…

I could only get about 20 seconds in before her Racist Store brand Marilyn Monroe act made me bail. It’s horrible.

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Not that it makes any difference, really, but why has the campaign apparently designated *Tiffany Trump* as the “Official LGBTQ Community Liaison”?
She isn’t gay herself, and she doesn’t even do Bimbo Chic very well (despite the genes).

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:54:10am

re: #230 Jay C

Not that it makes any difference, really, but why has the campaign apparently designated Tiffany Trump as the “Official LGBTQ Community Liaison”?
She isn’t gay herself, and she doesn’t even do Bimbo Chic very well (despite the genes).

Slightly less Trump stank on her than the rest of them. Although she’s been trying real hard since the convention.

She must really believe there’s actually going to be something of value in the old man’s will.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:54:53am

This is a GOP talking point. Governor Ricketts said the same thing almost word-for-word in his “coronavirus update” yesterday.

He has now completely blocked the state epidemiologist from appearing in government briefings, using his hand-picked state medical officer instead (the state medical officer is a surgeon).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:55:09am

re: #231 makeitstop

Slightly less Trump stank on her than the rest of them. Although she’s been trying real hard since the convention.

She must really believe there’s actually going to be something of value in the old man’s will.

I assume she was offered a juicy cash-up-front payment, heck, she knows what her daddy is like.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 7:55:36am

re: #230 Jay C

Not that it makes any difference, really, but why has the campaign apparently designated *Tiffany Trump* as the “Official LGBTQ Community Liaison”?
She isn’t gay herself, and she doesn’t even do Bimbo Chic very well (despite the genes).

Because she is harder to dig up opposition research on.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:04:07am

re: #126 TarHellion

You assume that she is sane. Look at the rulings by Alito. He wants to revisit gay marriage. She is the Manchurian Candidate conservatives have dreamed of. Smart? Yes. A female? Yes. Utterly devoid of the human condition? Yes.

Willing to advance a 1789 worldview? Duh.

With her as the swing vote, the definition of the 14th Amendment is at risk, let alone the 1st. And forget about the 9th Amendment, which was Madison’s way of saying that maybe a right to privacy should have been construed.

I could see Barrett joining with Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch to overturn Griswold v Connecticut and Gideon v Wainwright.

Forget about Roe v Wade. This court will determine that life begins in the testicles. And that masturbation is punishable by death.

Both the porn industry and the erotic Romance novel industry are concerned she will be the vote to extinguish both.

A number of court cases are moving right now that argue both are not protected I Amendment speech, because laws protecting them are written vaguely and subjectively.

Conservatism has always been against free speech (see the Alien and Sedition Acts, the Comstock Acts, &c).

Should the other court conservatives rule against them, that will throw a chilling effect on all free speech: Is this porn? Should I publish it?

The problem was once defined by Penthouse in free speech arguments that no one wants to be seen as defending the rights of the porn industry, because then a conservative politician can paint you as being “for porn.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:06:32am

re: #235 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The problem was once defined by Penthouse in free speech arguments that no one wants to be seen as defending the rights of the porn industry, because then a conservative politician can paint you as being “for porn.”

Until someone leaks that conservative politician’s browser history

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:09:36am

They want to go beyond Roe v Wade and ban abortion entirely in all states.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:11:59am

re: #187 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m really getting sick of how Republicans in red states get away with a fuck you attitude to blue states. Wonder how this jackass would feel if Obama had decided after a massive tornado that Missouri shouldn’t get aid. Yet it’s acceptable to do this to blue states because “elitism.’

Remember Ted Cruz leading the charge against Hurricane Sandy relief?

Speaking of hurricanes, Tropical Storm Epsilon is up and running in the Atlantic. It is expected to reach hurricane strength before approaching Bermuda.

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plansbandc  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:12:52am

re: #174 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Nice song! :D

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:13:08am

re: #173 jeffreyw

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Video

Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:13:27am

re: #196 A Mom Anon

This right here is THE biggest problem we face over the long haul, the idea that you only represent the people in your party and only red states matter or deserve any help, money for anything, etc. Dems need to amplify what they are saying and hammer on this. If you feel this way you have no damned business being in public office. NONE.

My representative when I call: I only represent Republicans.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:16:28am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want to go beyond Roe v Wade and ban abortion entirely in all states.

It’s funny how they think they can ban abortion and it will go away but always INSIST the bad guys will still find a way to get guns if we dare discuss banning those.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:17:20am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s funny how they think they can ban abortion and it will go away but always INSIST the bad guys will still find a way to get guns if we dare discuss banning those.

if fetuses were armed, there would be no abortions!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:18:58am

Funny thing is, there are a lot of Republicans in NY, IL, CA and other Blue States, but since they are not in a position to help Trump or any Red State senators get re-elected, they have been written off…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:22:05am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Here, after state senator McCollister (R) called out the Republican party for encouraging white supremacists and endorsed Joe Biden for President, the state GOP started to move to eject him from the party.

The Unicameral is ostensibly non-partisan, but the senators are members of one or the other parties (other than Senator Ernie Chambers, who is term-limited but says he’ll be back running in the next election after the waiting period is over). Senators Chambers, Megan Hunt, and Adam Morfeld all thanked Senator McCollister for calling out what they also see.

Governor Ricketts was (not) embarrassed when his first spokesperson was outed as a member of VDare.

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retired cynic  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:24:24am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

gadfly

Rush Limbaugh: Yellow Jacket (just a nasty bastard)

(Yes, and same for Newt)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:27:34am

re: #246 retired cynic

Rush Limbaugh: Yellow Jacket (just a nasty bastard)

(Yes, and same for Newt)

I still remember Newt talking about Obama’s “Kenyan worldview”

No, he did not mean “Kenya, a former British colony that rebelled and won its independence”, he meant “Kenya, where armed Mau-Mau gangs went around massacring white people”…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:28:33am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Remember Ted Cruz leading the charge against Hurricane Sandy relief?

Speaking of hurricanes, Tropical Storm Epsilon is up and running in the Atlantic. It is expected to reach hurricane strength before approaching Bermuda.

Yes that’s exactly what I was referring to. Our leaders don’t care who your state voted for when a disaster hits.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:28:58am

Governor Ricketts has again rejected additional funding for SNAP for those affected by Covid-19, so Nebraska remains the only state to do so.

Yesterday he released another tranche of relief aid from the CARES Act ($300 million), primarily to businesses. Much of the funding given to the state remains, and if not used by the end of the year has to be returned to the federal government. He intends on returning most of it.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:32:52am

re: #228 danarchy

You can’t sue someone for just being the only or major provider in a market. You have to show intent to hurt others to maintain that market.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:35:54am

re: #250 Belafon

You can’t sue someone for just being the only or major provider in a market. You have to show intent to hurt others to maintain that market.

That is one thing to prove in a commercial marketplace where physical goods and services are traded, but an much different thing in the marketplace for digital & Internet services are offered

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:36:41am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still remember Newt talking about Obama’s “Kenyan worldview”

No, he did not mean “Kenya, a former British colony that rebelled and won its independence”, he meant “Kenya, where armed Mau-Mau gangs went around massacring white people”…

Yeah, I remember back in the Obama Era, RW media hacks were always trying to fit “anticolonialist” (i.e. code for “hates white people”) into their Barack-bashing narratives, but IIRC, it was too complicated a dodge for their audience of mouthbreathers….

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:38:20am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is one thing to prove in a commercial marketplace where physical goods and services are traded, but an much different thing in the marketplace for digital & Internet services are offered

If I were a Google lawyer, I would pull up their website, google Bing and Yahoo, and follow the results to those locations and do a lookup there.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:39:00am

re: #252 Jay C

Yeah, I remember back in the Obama Era, RW media hacks were always trying to fit “anticolonialist” (i.e. code for “hates white people”) into their Barack-bashing narratives, but IIRC, it was too complicated a dodge for their audience of mouthbreathers….

I really felt bad for Obama because he had the far right attacking him constantly and the far left with unrealistic expectations and a side topping of bigotry from the Michael Moores and Bill Mahers of the world.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:39:04am

re: #211 John Hughes

No it’s not. It’s written into the US constitution. Hell, it’s written into the very name of the “country”.

When the Constitution was written, the authors believed that the house would have people who were intent on supporting their own state and district, while the senate would be able to look beyond their states to consider the nation as a whole. Sometimes it worked that way….

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mmmirele  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:39:34am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want to go beyond Roe v Wade and ban abortion entirely in all states.

Uhm, Amy Coney Barrett could be one of those anti-abortion Catholics who believe that hormone-based contraception is an abortifacient (it’s not) and want to get rid of the birth control pill as well.

You know, 37 years ago I remember sitting in an undergrad classroom with a bunch of sullen classmates, all of us who just *refused* to move on from a discussion of Griswold v. Connecticut without discussing Roe v. Wade. The professor (who was ancient and had clerked for Felix Frankfurter) completely hated the reasoning of Griswold and believed the case was wrongly decided. He thought after totally beating Griswold to death, we’d just skip over Roe. Nope.

I would say that Roe was the case for our generation, but nearly four decades on, I’d almost agree with him that Roe was wrongly decided, but not on the reason why. Today, I’d make an argument that anti-abortion laws should be struck down as a violation of the First Amendment right to freedom of religion. And no, I’m not talking about The Satanic Temple. Other religious groups do not share the beliefs of the Catholic church and Protestant Evangelicals regarding life starting at conception, to say nothing of the millions of Americans who are not religious at all. I do think the case could be made that anti-abortion laws are fundamentally religious at the core and need striking down for that reason alone.

That said, given the extreme deference religion is given in this country, it would be a tough case to make. But it has to be out there for discussion. It has to be brought up. We have to stop being afraid and stop letting a religious minority bulldoze us.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:39:42am

re: #252 Jay C

That’s a Newt talking point. I loathe that shithead. Him and Ralph Reed created such mean and nasty divisions here since 9/11. Both of them deserve the same evil back they have put out into the world.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:41:24am
Americans have lost trust across the board in the people and institutions informing them about the coronavirus since the beginning of the pandemic, according to a new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and USAFacts.

The poll finds that the percentage of people saying they trust COVID-19 information from their state or local governments, the news media, social media and their friends and family has dropped significantly compared to similar questions in April. A large chunk of Americans say they find it hard to know if coronavirus information is accurate.

Just 16% say they trust coronavirus information from President Donald Trump a great deal or quite a bit, down from 23% in April. And 64% now say they trust Trump only a little or not at all on COVID-19. Only social media, at 72%, is less trusted.

Even though Paula Randolph opposes the Republican president, she said she trusted the White House on coronavirus information when the pandemic started.

“Because of the history of the presidency of the United States, it was no matter what, they’ll tell us the facts,” said Randolph, a 49-year-old disabled woman in Dixon, Missouri. “It became a circus, and I no longer trust it.”

She even remembers the day she lost trust in the White House on the coronavirus: April 30. Trump, who by that point had been promoting an anti-malaria drug unproven on COVID-19, had a press conference on the pandemic that day, calling his response to the virus “really spectacular.”

(more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

AP-NORC/USAFacts poll: US trust in COVID-19 information down

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:41:56am

re: #252 Jay C

Yeah, I remember back in the Obama Era, RW media hacks were always trying to fit “anticolonialist” (i.e. code for “hates white people”) into their Barack-bashing narratives, but IIRC, it was too complicated a dodge for their audience of mouthbreathers….

It is clear from their rhetoric that they believed that although white Americans deserved freedom from colonialism, it was a different matter for the Third World

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:42:03am

re: #257 A Mom Anon

That’s a Newt talking point. I loathe that shithead. Him and Ralph Reed created such mean and nasty divisions here since 9/11. Both of them deserve the same evil back they have put out into the world.

The GOP like to frame Democrats as out of touch but the GOP has only won the popular vote once in a presidential election since 1992 and yes I know all about the EC so don’t remind me but what needs to be pressed is the GOP are the ones who are out of touch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:43:09am

re: #260 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The GOP like to frame Democrats as out of touch but the GOP has only won the popular vote once in a presidential election since 1992 and yes I know all about the EC so don’t remind me but what needs to be pressed is the GOP are the ones who are out of touch.

GOP is in touch with the sources of power and money

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:44:01am

re: #256 mmmirele

to say nothing of the millions of Americans who are not religious at all

We don’t count. We’re not real Americans. What part of This is a Christian Nation do you not understand?/s

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:44:04am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GOP is in touch with the sources of power and money

You know what I meant.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:47:24am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GOP is in touch with the sources of power and money

At least power. They don’t seem to have the money thing locked up right now.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:48:26am

re: #264 Belafon

At least power. They don’t seem to have the money thing locked up right now.

They tend to parscale it from each other.

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John Hughes  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:48:48am

re: #255 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

When the Constitution was written, the authors believed that the house would have people who were intent on supporting their own state and district, while the senate would be able to look beyond their states to consider the nation as a whole. Sometimes it worked that way….

Which is kind of odd because the house is the bit that’s fairly democratic. The senate and, more notoriously the EC, are the bits that mean that people who live in some states get a bigger say, and therefore more attention from politicians, than others.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:48:52am

re: #256 mmmirele

Today, I’d make an argument that anti-abortion laws should be struck down as a violation of the First Amendment right to freedom of religion. And no, I’m not talking about The Satanic Temple. Other religious groups do not share the beliefs of the Catholic church and Protestant Evangelicals regarding life starting at conception, to say nothing of the millions of Americans who are not religious at all. I do think the case could be made that anti-abortion laws are fundamentally religious at the core and need striking down for that reason alone.

I’d go with the Thirteenth Amendment; I see an unwanted pregnancy as involuntary servitude. Having to put your internal organs to somebody else’s service… and at the end of gestation, there’s a reason they call it labor.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:49:43am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s funny how they think they can ban abortion and it will go away but always INSIST the bad guys will still find a way to get guns if we dare discuss banning those.

They don’t think it will go away. They want women to pay a price up to and including death for trying to obtain one.

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garzooma  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:50:34am

re: #228 danarchy

Google has more than 90% market share in the search industry, it’s biggest competitor, bing, has a little under 3%. That has got to be a monopoly by just about any definition.

That isn’t to say they shouldn’t be going after Facebook, Amazon, and Apple too.

My congressman, David Cicilline, who has been pushing anti-trust action against tech companies, calls this “long overdue.”

facebook.com

Congressman David Cicilline

Three weeks ago, I released a report outlining steps Google took to maintain and expand its monopoly power through anti-competitive actions.
Today, DOJ finally brought an antitrust lawsuit against Google. This step is long overdue. It is time to restore competition online.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:50:43am

re: #264 Belafon

At least power. They don’t seem to have the money thing locked up right now.

money follows power and now the GOP are starting to smell like losers

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:53:44am

re: #266 John Hughes

Which is kind of odd because the house is the bit that’s fairly democratic. The senate and, more notoriously the EC, are the bits that mean that people who live in some states get a bigger say, and therefore more attention from politicians, than others.

You do realize that when we talk about the founding fathers, we’re talking about the 18th century?

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mmmirele  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:54:10am

re: #267 sagehen

I’d go with the Thirteenth Amendment; I see an unwanted pregnancy as involuntary servitude question. Having to put your interior organs to somebody else’s service… and at the end of gestation, there’s a reason they call it labor.

I’m not opposed to that argument either. I think it’s a good argument and it’s one I regularly make to forced birthers, that they have no problem enslaving women’s bodies to their religious beliefs, which kind of reminds of the antebellum religious types who used the Bible to prop up slavery.

And completely out of nowhere—I’m having a great craving for Kraft Mac n Cheese (the blue box, with the powder). Why, I have no idea.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:56:20am

Joni Ernst is running a campaign advert in the Omaha market featuring a woman who’s daughter was killed by someone drag racing in Omaha. The racer was an undocumented immigrant, and subsequently disappeared after being released on bail.

When folks say “well, why do people who live farthest from the borders care about undocumented immigrants,” this is why. They are in fact everywhere in our country.

That said, the overwhelming majority just want to stay out of trouble. The outlier cases like this one are what Republicans can use to spin up fear in the voter base.

omaha.com

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Teukka  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:57:58am

:tehee:

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:58:24am

re: #272 mmmirele

I’m not opposed to that argument either. I think it’s a good argument and it’s one I regularly make to forced birthers, that they have no problem enslaving women’s bodies to their religious beliefs, which kind of reminds of the antebellum religious types who used the Bible to prop up slavery.

And completely out of nowhere—I’m having a great craving for Kraft Mac n Cheese (the blue box, with the powder). Why, I have no idea.

It requires as a premise that a fetus (or even a blastocyst) is a person, a step I’m not willing to take.

And I’m not free of urges for truly junky junk food (I eat candy corn once a year), but Kraft Mac n Cheese? Try a bit of real cheese, and if the urge persists, seek help.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 20, 2020 • 8:59:47am

re: #226 makeitstop

Trump tried to kick transgender people out of the military. He has nominated Supreme Court justices who are anti-LGBT. How the hell is he an ally?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:00:09am

re: #272 mmmirele

I’m not opposed to that argument either. I think it’s a good argument and it’s one I regularly make to forced birthers, that they have no problem enslaving women’s bodies to their religious beliefs, which kind of reminds of the antebellum religious types who used the Bible to prop up slavery.

And completely out of nowhere—I’m having a great craving for Kraft Mac n Cheese (the blue box, with the powder). Why, I have no idea.

Christians just pull in the Natualistic Fallacy: That’s the way women’s bodies are supposed to work. It’s not slavery.

In the same manner of “do you want to be painted as supporting porn” the argument “you monster, how dare you paint a baby as a parasite.”

It doesn’t matter that “baby” doesn’t exist. It also doesn’t help that virtually every pregnant woman who wants a baby starts talking about their baby long before there is a born baby. The fuzzy language surrounding “baby” allows Christians to paint supporters of choice as “baby-killers,” even though they never intend on giving that so-called baby any real rights or support.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:01:09am

re: #276 Patricia Kayden

Trump tried to kick transgender people out of the military. He has nominated Supreme Court justices who are anti-LGBT. How the hell is he an ally?

Note Tiffany Trump eliminated the T from LGBT. Erasing trangender people is part of their religious faith.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:02:13am

re: #276 Patricia Kayden

Trump tried to kick transgender people out of the military. He has nominated Supreme Court justices who are anti-LGBT. How the hell is he an ally?

It seems that most of the internet realizes this, too.

Tiffany’s reviews are, shall we say, brutal. And the people she’s fooling least are the LGBT community.

Just like with her old man, the lies don’t stick like they used to after four years.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:04:06am

re: #178 ericblair

Nothing is stored locally anyone (at least at FDA) they’d need to firebomb the servers, torching computers won’t do jack shit.

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:04:25am

re: #277 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christians just pull in the Natualistic Fallacy: That’s the way women’s bodies are supposed to work. It’s not slavery.

In the same manner of “do you want to be painted as supporting porn” the argument “you monster, how dare you paint a baby as a parasite.”

It doesn’t matter that “baby” doesn’t exist. It also doesn’t help that virtually every pregnant woman who wants a baby starts talking about their baby long before there is a born baby. The fuzzy language surrounding “baby” allows Christians to paint supporters of choice as “baby-killers,” even though they never intend on giving that so-called baby any real rights or support.

It’s a purely emotional ploy: “We’re protecting babies! From murder! How can you support murdering babies?!”

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:06:59am

re: #225 Nojay UK

Don’t forget the granddaddy of the tech anti-trust lawsuits, IBM vs. The Entire Universe. It is said that greenhorn lawyers fresh from law school joined law firms, started working on the IBM defence team and later retired having worked on no other case in their entire careers.

If the parties have deep enough pockets (and resentments/interests), a case could easily last over a decade. One as complicated as an anti-trust case against one of the largest corporations in the world could easily span two decades, but an entire career seems less likely (though I suppose plausible if you include post judgment/settlement oversight issues).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:10:18am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:13:51am

Ten Legitimate Reasons to Pull Out Your Dick On a Zoom Call (Goes to McSweeney’s Internet Tendency)

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:14:59am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Make Medicare the Public Option, open it to everyone and expand it to include coverage for vision, dental, hearing aid and long term care.

I shouldn’t have had to wait to 65 to get a basic health care package.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:15:51am

She has received death threats for being a liberal, a Democratic Socialist, bi, and an atheist.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:17:22am
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sagehen  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:19:22am

re: #282 KGxvi

If the parties have deep enough pockets (and resentments/interests), a case could easily last over a decade. One as complicated as an anti-trust case against one of the largest corporations in the world could easily span two decades, but an entire career seems less likely (though I suppose plausible if you include post judgment/settlement oversight issues).

In the early 80’s, I was a paralegal on the asbestos litigation. It had been going for decades already when I started. It’s still going today.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:24:29am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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She has received death threats for being a liberal, a Democratic Socialist, bi, and an atheist.

That’s the defining aspect of this administration. They’re completely comfortable with encouraging violence against the opposition.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:31:10am

Gee, I wonder what message this cop is sending as he patrols a polling place?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:31:48am

QAnon is now a mainstream belief among GOP voters. New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Half of Trump supporters believe QAnon’s imaginary claims
news.yahoo.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:32:29am

re: #291 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Qanon is now a mainstream belief among GOP voters. New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Half of Trump supporters believe QAnon’s imaginary claims
news.yahoo.com

Christ.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:34:10am

re: #292 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Christ.

Surprised it’s only just over 50%.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:35:57am

re: #291 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Qanon is now a mainstream belief among GOP voters. New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Half of Trump supporters believe QAnon’s imaginary claims
news.yahoo.com

100% of the brainwashed assholes who go to the ASSemblies of Gawd churches that brainwashed my relatives believe the Q shit. And it’s reinforced by the Pulpit Pimp Preachers all the time!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:36:16am

re: #285 🌹UOJB!

Make Medicare the Public Option, open it to everyone and expand it to include coverage for vision, dental, hearing aid and long term care.

I shouldn’t have had to wait to 65 to get a basic health care package.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:38:08am

re: #290 🌹UOJB!

Gee, I wonder what message this cop is sending as he patrols a polling place?

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A Mom Anon  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:38:58am

re: #293 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And this is what we’ll be left with to clean up. These people are not going anywhere and short of pulling every Q forum and website offline to starve them of fake nonsense, I see no way to make any kind of progress in ridding ourselves of this madness. It’s a big negative reinforcement loop, how to fix that I have no idea.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:40:39am

How many times does JFK Jr. have to NOT show up before the Q bots realize someone is yanking their chain?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:42:00am

So I had to go on some errands this morning and on the drive home, for some reason my MP3 music player didn’t connect & the local AM “all news” radio station kicked on. They were playing some sound bites where Trump is saying that Adam Schiff should be imprisoned (not after being found guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers), and he is appointing a “special prosecutor” to investigate “Joe Biden’s corruption” based on the NY Post article.

I missed when did he actually say this? Was it during his morning chat to “Fox & Friends”?

I suppose that no one told him that none of that “Hunter Biden laptop” shit is actually admissible evidence.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:44:58am

re: #299 The Pie Overlord!

So I had to go on some errands this morning and on the drive home, for some reason my MP3 music player didn’t connect & the local AM “all news” radio station kicked on. They were playing some sound bites where Trump is saying that Adam Schiff should be imprisoned (not after being found guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers), and he is appointing a “special prosecutor” to investigate “Joe Biden’s corruption” based on the NY Post article.

I missed when did he actually say this? Was it during his morning chat to “Fox & Friends”?

I suppose that no one told him that none of that “Hunter Biden laptop” shit is actually admissible evidence.

Trump thought this would be his Comey letter, and he is desperate for the story to gain some traction to save his campaign. He can’t appoint a special prosecutor.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:45:28am

re: #225 Nojay UK

Don’t forget the granddaddy of the tech anti-trust lawsuits, IBM vs. The Entire Universe. It is said that greenhorn lawyers fresh from law school joined law firms, started working on the IBM defence team and later retired having worked on no other case in their entire careers.

Sounds like Dickens’ “Bleak House” which was required reading in my freshman Humanities class over 50 years ago. A family spent decades fighting over an inheritance.

Spoilers below:

The case is finally settled when new evidence is produced only to discover that the entire estate was consumed in paying for the legal battles!

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Mike Lamb  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:47:27am

re: #290 🌹UOJB!

Gee, I wonder what message this cop is sending as he patrols a polling place?

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Aside from the voter intimidation aspect, doesn’t basically every state have laws prohibiting electioneering within a certain distance of a polling station or drop box?

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mmmirele  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:47:45am

re: #281 Targetpractice

It’s a purely emotional ploy: “We’re protecting babies! From murder! How can you support murdering babies?!”

Which is why I refuse to get into the “it is a baby” argument. I stick strictly to the “why are you wanting to enslave female bodies?” argument. I’ve also added to it the “nobody is getting a late-term abortion on a whim” argument, which is, late term abortions are expensive (low five figures). Nobody is getting one because they want one. They’re getting one because the outcome is devastating to the woman or the fetus or both.

But you can’t reason with people who think women should sacrifice our bodies to giving birth. Fuck that noise. Modern health care and contraception freed women. Like fuck we are going back.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:49:02am

re: #296 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

We are aware of the photograph being circulated of a Miami Police officer wearing a political mask in uniform.

That’s half the problem. The other half is that no one gets to wear any candidate/partisan symbolism in our state’s polling places. The fact that he’s an armed cop is just a multiplier.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:49:22am

re: #231 makeitstop

Slightly less Trump stank on her than the rest of them. Although she’s been trying real hard since the convention.

She must really believe there’s actually going to be something of value in the old man’s will.

Maybe she just wants to be front and center for dear ol’ dad’s epic defeat and humiliation…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:52:58am

re: #303 mmmirele

But you can’t reason with people who think women should sacrifice our bodies to giving birth. Fuck that noise. Modern health care and contraception freed women. Like fuck we are going back.

The Dominionists among them see themselves as fighting for the very survival of America: We are God’s Chosen Nation because our laws reflect (their interpretation of) HIs Divine Will on Earth.

If we abandon that plan and start allowing things like socialized medicine, gun control, babymurders and gayboning, we are just asking for God up open up a Kingdom-of-Heaven sized can of Smite upon us.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:55:30am

re: #290 🌹UOJB!

Adding to the officer’s stupidity, this is what his mask says.

miamiherald.com

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Teukka  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:57:57am

re: #307 Kilroy was here

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Adding to the officer’s stupidity, this is what his mask says.

miamiherald.com

File under #YouHadOneJob or #RightWingFails ?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:57:57am

re: #307 Kilroy was here

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Adding to the officer’s stupidity, this is what his mask says.

miamiherald.com

Yep. There’s a dude just down the street from me that has that on a giant flag in his yard.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:57:57am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want to go beyond Roe v Wade and ban abortion entirely in all states.

Alito and Barrett, definitely. But I don’t think that Roberts, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Kavanaugh are likely to take such a drastic step. Aren’t they more likely to vote to return the decision to the states?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 20, 2020 • 9:59:48am

Two days ago I asked if anyone had seen her since the diagnosis

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:00:40am

re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg

How many times does JFK Jr. have to NOT show up before the Q bots realize someone is yanking their chain?

As many times as my brainwashed family insists that The Rapture is coming…week after week after week over the past 40 years…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:01:07am

re: #310 Hecuba’s daughter

Alito and Barrett, definitely. But I don’t think that Roberts, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Kavanaugh are likely to take such a drastic step. Aren’t they more likely to vote to return the decision to the states?

Yes. The GOP will be running on passing a federal law banning abortion after Roe is reversed.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:02:14am

re: #313 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yes. The GOP will be running on passing a federal law banning abortion after Roe is reversed.

But it won’t be enforced when Christ Centered GOP Rep. Scott DesJarlais gets another mistress pregnant again.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:02:56am

re: #313 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yes. The GOP will be running on passing a federal law banning abortion after Roe is reversed.

Pretty sure Thomas is Opus Dei too. Roberts and Kavanaugh are Catholic as well though I’m not sure if OD. Note not all conservative Catholics are OD. Santorum notably is not.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:03:08am

Yeah, this story isn’t going away

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:04:31am

re: #316 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Yeah, this story isn’t going away

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I didn’t even wear my Drive By Truckers resist t-shirt when I voted in the primary nor my Don’t blame me I voted for Kodos tee.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:04:36am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Two days ago I asked if anyone had seen her since the diagnosis

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That may just be an excuse. I predict that soon after the election, her and Barron will move back to Trump Tower. No way she wants to decorate the WH for “fucking Christmas” again. Man, if Michelle had said that, there would’ve been wall-to-wall outrage coverage on Fox News right up to election day.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:05:03am

re: #290 🌹UOJB!

Gee, I wonder what message this cop is sending as he patrols a polling place?

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“The law does not bind me, it binds you.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:05:16am

Sure, Jan.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:06:16am

re: #314 🌹UOJB!

But it won’t be enforced when Christ Centered GOP Rep. Scott DesJarlais gets another mistress pregnant again.

Laws are only for little people. The rich will have no problem getting abortion drugs when they need them.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:06:17am

When you have no answer, attack the question.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:08:28am

re: #320 Eclectic Cyborg

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Sure, Jan.

Extortion.

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b.d.  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:09:05am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Two days ago I asked if anyone had seen her since the diagnosis

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Melania is just done with this stuff, I’d imagine she’s already packing to leave on election night.

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Nojay UK  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:09:12am

re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg

Christianity is doing well and fine at least a thousand years since their Golden Boy failed to make his much-heralded reappearance and there have been enough prophecies and expectations since then by various True Believers that have failed to eventuate that you’d think the death-cultists would have given up by now. But no.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:09:48am

re: #320 Eclectic Cyborg

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Sure, Jan.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:11:06am

re: #267 sagehen

I’d go with the Thirteenth Amendment; I see an unwanted pregnancy as involuntary servitude. Having to put your internal organs to somebody else’s service… and at the end of gestation, there’s a reason they call it labor.

That’s how I have looked at it for a while. If a fetus is a person, and that person can demand the use of a woman’s organs, and she is not permitted to refuse, then if I need one to survive, I can demand a kidney from someone else, and they must give it to me. I won’t survive without it, so hand it over!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:11:44am

re: #318 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That may just be an excuse. I predict that soon after the election, her and Barron will move back to Trump Tower. No way she wants to decorate the WH for “fucking Christmas” again. Man, if Michelle had said that, there would’ve been wall-to-wall outrage coverage on Fox News right up to election day.

24 hours apart
Yesterday

Today

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Jay C  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:12:39am

re: #320 Eclectic Cyborg

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Sure, Jan.

If so many people are “fleeing” New York, WTH is the City so crowded?

Moron.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:15:04am

re: #327 Jebediah, RBG

That’s how I have looked at it for a while. If a fetus is a person, and that person can demand the use of a woman’s organs, and she is not permitted to refuse, then if I need one to survive, I can demand a kidney from someone else, and they must give it to me. I won’t survive without it, so hand it over!

The forced birthers would say she volunteered when she had sex. Remember, they believe that women who are “really raped” have a way of shutting things down so they don’t get pregnant.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:15:07am

re: #329 Jay C

If so many people are “fleeing” New York, WTH is the City so crowded?

Moron.

NY, CA, and IL pay more in federal taxes than get back in transfer payments.

NJ too. For every $1 a state like NY, NJ, CA, or IL pay, they get back less than $1.

That means those states have to impose taxes to cover the difference. Meanwhile, states like KY are takers who get more than they give.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:15:09am

This is on 90% of the Trump flags flying in Texas. That and the f*cking boat parades.
re: #307 Kilroy was here

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Adding to the officer’s stupidity, this is what his mask says.

miamiherald.com

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ericblair  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:15:44am

re: #328 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“Mrs. Trump continues to feel better every day following her recovery from COVID-19, but with a lingering cough, and out of an abundance of caution, she will not be traveling today.” - @StephGrisham45

There’s that phrase again.

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:17:58am
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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:18:44am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Two days ago I asked if anyone had seen her since the diagnosis

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I guess Mel didn’t get the Gold Ticket meds.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:20:15am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:20:32am

re: #335 makeitstop

I guess Mel didn’t get the Gold Ticket meds.

Will I’m glad that the Bride Of Fuckupstein isn’t coming to infect the good people of Erie.

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mmmirele  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:23:29am

re: #301 Hecuba’s daughter

And I had to go confirm my memory that the fictional court case was Jarndyce v Jarndyce. Which it was.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:26:05am

re: #317 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I didn’t even wear my Drive By Truckers resist t-shirt when I voted in the primary nor my Don’t blame me I voted for Kodos tee.

Vote at home by mail
Wear all the campaign related stuff you want

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mmmirele  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:26:47am

re: #310 Hecuba’s daughter

Alito and Barrett, definitely. But I don’t think that Roberts, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Kavanaugh are likely to take such a drastic step. Aren’t they more likely to vote to return the decision to the states?

We have a law here on the books in Arizona that would ban abortion if Roe is overturned. So in the moment Roe is overturned, abortion would become instantly illegal in many states. Sending abortion back to the states would be a disaster.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:27:14am

re: #290 🌹UOJB!

Gee, I wonder what message this cop is sending as he patrols a polling place?

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I dare you to try and call me out on this

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:30:28am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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That asshole said the Rapture would come with Pruneface in 1980, Old Fart Bush in 1988 & 92, Pineapple Dole in 1996, Dumbya in 2000 and 2004, McCain in 2008, Romney in 2012 and Fuckupstein in 2016.

Pulpit Pimp Pat gonna get the shock of his life when JC and his Sonshine Band pull a no show at Armageddon…

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:31:30am

re: #340 mmmirele

We have a law here on the books in Arizona that would ban abortion if Roe is overturned. So in the moment Roe is overturned, abortion would become instantly illegal in many states. Sending abortion back to the states would be a disaster.

Illinois protects choice. The question is under the Arizona law: could Arizona charge a woman with a crime if she travels to another state to have an abortion?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:33:05am

re: #340 mmmirele

We have a law here on the books in Arizona that would ban abortion if Roe is overturned. So in the moment Roe is overturned, abortion would become instantly illegal in many states. Sending abortion back to the states would be a disaster.

Oh it wouldn’t be a disaster for any rich white Republican Born Again Blue Blooded Christian He-Man Member of Congress like Scott DesJarlais! Why I’m sure he’d be able to arrange an abortion for his mistress and he’d also get an “indulgence” from his bishop when that happens!

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:34:24am

re: #343 Hecuba’s daughter

Illinois protects choice. The question is under the Arizona law: could Arizona charge a woman with a crime if she travels to another state to have an abortion?

Oh I’m sure that them there born again Christians would demand the burning at the stake thing…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:35:35am
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BeachDem  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:35:53am

re: #316 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Yeah, this story isn’t going away

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Anybody know what the logo on his hat is all about?

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A Mom Anon  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:36:14am

re: #343 Hecuba’s daughter

How would they know?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:38:03am

re: #348 A Mom Anon

How would they know?

Easy. You can count on a born again asshole to find out.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:38:20am

Fuck cancer and fuck 2020. As a Dude who has seen much sorrow from cancer, I can’t abide:

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:39:01am

Queen of shade

“I don’t want to carry over the droppings of this grotesque elephant into the next presidency. We’ve got to get something big, and we’ve got to get it done soon and we’ve got to get it done right.”

— Speaker Nancy Pelosi, quoted by the New York Times, on negotiating a new economic relief deal with the Trump administration

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:40:47am

re: #330 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The forced birthers would say she volunteered when she had sex. Remember, they believe that women who are “really raped” have a way of shutting things down so they don’t get pregnant.

It is difficult, maybe pointless, to argue with people who, along with being so empty of heart, are rigorously and rigidly afactual.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:41:23am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:43:11am

re: #347 BeachDem

Anybody know what the logo on his hat is all about?

Google suggests it’s a Motorcyle Officer symbol.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:44:26am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

God sure has told old Pat a lot of fibs over the years. Wonder if he’ll ever catch on.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:44:47am

re: #339 dangerman

Vote at home by mail
Wear all the campaign related stuff you want

I forget what shirt I was wearing on Sunday night haha.

357
Teukka  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:50:47am

re: #350 lawhawk

Fuck cancer and fuck 2020. As a Dude who has seen much sorrow from cancer, I can’t abide:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:51:05am

Today’s MIT event was on patients, discussing how the disease affects people from in virto to the elderly. She also discussed therapies that are being used and investigated. It was truly fascinating.

First she used a case study on a 47 year old guy who was mostly healthy, some minor comorbidities. He spent 61 days in the hospital. The second was a 74 yo overweight with full access to the best options available (!!) going into remsidir(sic) - cost very high $3000 -and dimethsone(sic) - very inexpensive - and the tests are ongoing for them being used for COVID globally. Both are showing potential for being helpful (still being evaluated) if used early in reducing the length of the illness… But that’s still being investigated.

This was extremely informative.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:55:02am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:56:58am

Fuck Republicans.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:57:21am

re: #359 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

People ignore this but HRC actually outperformed Obama in a few districts. Biden has a good chance at outperforming both. I have to admit that I slept on him a little as a candidate because I thought he was a little too old school. Now? I think Biden’s what the country needs.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:58:00am

re: #360 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck Republicans.

Fucking assholes. God I cannot wait for that state to become blue so Abbott, Dan Patrick, and Ted Cruz will be in misery.

363
danarchy  Oct 20, 2020 • 10:58:46am

re: #304 Decatur Deb

That’s half the problem. The other half is that no one gets to wear any candidate/partisan symbolism in our state’s polling places. The fact that he’s an armed cop is just a multiplier.

According to Florida rules:

Voters may wear campaign buttons, shirts,
hats, or any other campaign items when
they enter the polling place to vote; voters
may not otherwise campaign there.

re: #331 lawhawk

NY, CA, and IL pay more in federal taxes than get back in transfer payments.

NJ too. For every $1 a state like NY, NJ, CA, or IL pay, they get back less than $1.

That means those states have to impose taxes to cover the difference. Meanwhile, states like KY are takers who get more than they give.

It has been a few years since you could include CA and IL on that list, they receive just a little more than they contribute these days. There are only 9 states that contribute more than they receive.

rockinst.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:00:32am

re: #360 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck Republicans.

[Embedded content]

Guy in a wheelchair says “Fuck you” to other people like him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:01:26am
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jaunte  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:01:32am
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b.d.  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:01:34am

re: #360 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck Republicans.

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Screw Abbot. With Allen West running the Texas GOP Gov. Abbot won’t even make it out of his own primary in less than 2 years.

I want this to be the last gasp of the Texas GOP.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:02:11am

re: #365 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Hell even if Barr wants to do it, it’s no guarantee. You need a grand jury to go along. And I think Barr knows that Trump is a lost cause.

369
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:04:14am

re: #367 b.d. (Enough!)

Screw Abbot. With Allen West running the Texas GOP Gov. Abbot won’t even make it out of his own primary in less than 2 years.

I want this to be the last gasp of the Texas GOP.

Crapping on urbanites and diverse communities is going to bite them in the ass.

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gocart mozart  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:04:55am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:06:01am

re: #364 Eclectic Cyborg

Guy in a wheelchair says “Fuck you” to other people like him.

Eugenics is for poor people.

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BeachDem  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:06:31am

re: #354 Eclectic Cyborg

Google suggests it’s a Motorcyle Officer symbol.

Thanks. Good eyes. I thought the wings were rabbit ears and was very confused.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:07:00am

re: #368 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Hell even if Barr wants to do it, it’s no guarantee. You need a grand jury to go along. And I think Barr knows that Trump is a lost cause.

Everything Trump depended on for for 3+ years is breaking down. The rallies, the lying, the sycophantic appointees…even the tweets.

Trump Fatigue is real. He’s finally worn out his welcome.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:08:26am
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jaunte  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:09:27am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:09:40am

re: #360 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck Republicans.

[Embedded content]

Hey is Governor Ironside making an exception for itself?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:09:53am

re: #373 makeitstop

Everything Trump depended on for for 3+ years is breaking down. The rallies, the lying, the sycophantic appointees…even the tweets.

Trump Fatigue is real. He’s finally worn out his welcome.

I’m not going to count my eggs just yet but I honestly thought and yeah I admit I was trying to find a silver lining after the worst political night of my life. But my thought was that Trump was going to be a Pyrrhic victory for the GOP and right. Trump is going to define the GOP in the decades to come.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:10:03am

re: #373 makeitstop

Everything Trump depended on for for 3+ years is breaking down. The rallies, the lying, the sycophantic appointees…even the tweets.

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Trump Fatigue is real. He’s finally worn out his welcome.

He’s SO fucking short-sighted.

If he’d handled the pandemic properly, he’d be cruising to reelection. And he doesn’t even realize.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:10:36am

Rich people can have a failson shaped like a seal fucked a Hapsburg and still believe themselves to be genetically superior.

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gocart mozart  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:10:43am
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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:11:28am

re: #370 gocart mozart

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Until he made that ad for MJ Hegar, I hadn’t put it together that Rex Chapman was the basketball player Rex Chapman. I just thought he was some dude who posted cool stuff on Twitter.

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lawhawk  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:12:17am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:12:51am

re: #381 makeitstop

Until he made that ad for MJ Hegar, I hadn’t put it together that Rex Chapman was the basketball player Rex Chapman. I just thought he was some dude who posted cool stuff on Twitter.

I thought it was him but wasn’t sure. I think I might have seen him play at the old US Air Arena in Landover when the Wizards were still the Bullets. That or I remember him in NBA Jam and playing as the hometown team.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:13:24am

re: #378 sagehen

If he’d handled the pandemic properly, he’d be cruising to reelection. And he doesn’t even realize.

SO true. It was an absolute no-brainer, but so is the guy we’re talking about.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:13:30am

re: #380 gocart mozart

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That makes more sense than any GOP commercial I’ve seen this year.

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makeitstop  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:19:50am

re: #381 makeitstop

Until he made that ad for MJ Hegar, I hadn’t put it together that Rex Chapman was the basketball player Rex Chapman. I just thought he was some dude who posted cool stuff on Twitter.

Oops. He made the spot for Amy McGrath, not MJ.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 20, 2020 • 11:29:33am

re: #378 sagehen

He’s SO fucking short-sighted.

If he’d handled the pandemic properly, he’d be cruising to reelection. And he doesn’t even realize.

Funny thing is, it’s the same quality that made him attractive to his audience that makes him so incredibly ineffective in a pandemic, and that now is driving down his popularity.

He treats everything as pure rhetoric because as a narcissist he can’t conceive of a world that exists independent of his impressions and whims; he’s incapable of honesty with others because he has no interest in reality.

He can’t bullshit a pandemic; he can’t bully and belittle a virus; he can’t unclinch his ego long enought to defer to an expert.

Whatever part of him was capable of deferring gratification is now burned away. More and more he’s making threats and selling the idea that if the country lets him down it deserves whatever harm he inflicts.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2020 • 12:13:59pm

re: #280 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Nothing is stored locally anyone (at least at FDA) they’d need to firebomb the servers, torching computers won’t do jack shit.

And all the backups

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2020 • 12:18:29pm

re: #290 🌹UOJB!

Gee, I wonder what message this cop is sending as he patrols a polling place?

[Embedded content]

He should be good with my “Fuck the Police” mask then.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2020 • 12:25:20pm

re: #302 Mike Lamb

Aside from the voter intimidation aspect, doesn’t basically every state have laws prohibiting electioneering within a certain distance of a polling station or drop box?

In Pennsylvania we do. But hey he’s a cop, they don’t have to follow the law

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2020 • 1:09:52pm

re: #320 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

Sure, Jan.

Wonder what’s been stopping Donny from doing that the last 3.5 years?


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